I See You, Mama - the Podcast: Recent Episodes

Ariana Evans

The "I See You, Mama" podcast is a weekly (if the stars align and none of our kids get sick) conversation with women who are doing the work of motherhood. We go deep, we get to the good stuff. We may be folding laundry mountain, driving carpool, or have a spare moment but in the crazy work of motherhood, we are making sure we are feeding our own souls. This is the good stuff. We laugh. We cry. We lay it all out there.

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Host Ariana Evans and guest Minister Crystal Bates talk about Crystal's experience as a person of color raising a son and being an activist for racial justice in Dallas, TX.

Crystal and Ariana go way back. All the way back to Longview High School in Longview, TX class of 1995! Crystal has a passionate voice for racial justice in her city of Dallas, TX. Not only was Crystal the first person in her family to go to college and get a degree, she was also the 9th african american female to get a a bachelor of science in economics from UT Arlington. She works with ministries and is a voice for change in Dallas. Follow her on Facebook to join her weekly bible study called Love Heals All Wounds.

https://prisonministry.net/OPM

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Host Ariana Evans and guest Kim Fields talk about her experience of racism while parenting her two sons. Kim is retired teacher, a lovely human being, a seeker of truth, a lover of books and a mother.

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Host Ariana Evans and guest Brooke Lamb, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist have a great conversation about worth and worthiness in motherhood. This is Part 2 of 2

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Host Ariana Evans and guest Brooke Lamb, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist have a great conversation about worth and worthiness in motherhood. This is Part 1 of 2.

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Host Ariana Evans and guest Brittany Cyr talk about how she has spent the last 2 years caring for her mother's heath needs while also parenting young children.

Back after nearly 8 weeks of no episodes (Thanks Coronavirus and a serious lack of motivation to do more than work and homeschool the kids). This episode was recorded pre-covid19 shutdown. Still vital, still important and pertinent, we talk about the health event that sent Brittany and her sister into caring for her mom full time and how their lives have been impacted in the years since.

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Working Mama - Jen Hagen-Deir and host Ariana Evans talk about the ins and outs of being the primary provider and mama.

Also this week in Nashville and surrounding areas, there was a tornado that left devastation in it's wake. If you would like to help, here are some resources.

https://do615.com/p/how-to-help-after-nashville-tornado

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Ariana Evans and her guests Dorena Williamson - Children's Author, mama, and first lady of Strong Tower Bible Church and Tiffany Acuff - writer, mama, and activist and co-founder of Corner to Corner mInistry discuss the topic of taking to our kids about racism.

Dorena Williamson

https://www.dorenawilliamson.com

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/october-web-only/botham-jean-forgiveness-amber-guyger.html

https://www.amazon.com/Ms-Dorena-Williamson/e/B077RZ117R?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1582517145&sr=8-1

https://bethebridge.com/

http://www.strongtowerbiblechurch.com/

Tiffany Acuff

https://cornertocorner.org/

https://nashville.citymomsblog.com/author/tiffanyacuff/

Nashville Resources

https://unitedstreettours.com

https://ranktribe.com/nashville - search for black owned businesses in your area

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Guest Lindsay Lo and Host Ariana Evans discuss home birthing. Lindsay has had one home birth in the US and one in the UK and got to know the inside of the system from the inside. I don't know why is it that Mamas love to discuss birthing babies but we do!

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Lindsay and Host Ariana Evans talk about parenting while grieving the loss of a loved one. We discuss all the pitfalls and milestones and struggles of trying to maintain some sense of normalcy for the kids while falling apart on the inside. We also discuss some good resources and podcasts for dealing with grief and illness.

You and Me and the Big C. A candid look at cancer, with Rachael Bland, Deborah James and Lauren Mahon. The You, Me and the Big C team bust some of the myths about cancer.

The coolest club you never want to be a part of…

Terrible, Thanks for Asking. Honest answers to the question “How are you?” “The show continuously, unapologetically, ferociously plows into subjects most people are too uncomfortable to touch.

Griefcast. by Cariad Lloyd. Funny people talking about death and grief, a podcast. Hosted by Cariad Lloyd.

Grief is a ball in a box analogy.

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Ariana Evans and Towne Burd sit in the beautiful echo-y space that houses the chiropractic clinic that she runs with her husband. We talk about the things that brought her to this moment in life, the thread that she followed and continues to connect her to her body, her family, her health and a deeper understanding of herself.

For more information on the clinic she runs with her husband, check out:

The Foundry Chiropractic & Upper Cervical

https://www.foundrychiropractic.com

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The host, Ariana Evans, talks about the new year, the new places the podcast is going, and about you going and doing the thing. That thing that you don't want to do but long to do? Going and doing THAT thing.

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Flo Paris Oaks is a woman of many talents and creative outlets. She is a writer, a singer, a songwriter, a homeschooler and much more. This episode, host Ariana Evans and Flo get to talk about her work and writing for A Rocha. https://arocha.us

A Rocha engages and equips Christians to deepen their connection to God through the active care of creation. We work in both sub/urban and rural contexts to help restore and maintain healthy ecosystems through a hands-on, community-based approach. Flo gets to be a part of the writing of A Rocha's curriculum for children.

Flo not only writes her own music, but she is also part of a band called Rain for Roots that specializes in big stories for little children.

https://rainforroots.bandcamp.com

You can find more of Flo's writing and singing here: http://www.floparisoakes.com

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Shani Dowell talks about life and the way she turned parent gossip about schools and teachers into a positive tool to build relationships between parents, teachers and administrators. Possip = Positive Gossip!

Shani's Bio:

"Shani Dowell is the Founder of Possip. Shani’s multiple roles as a mother of school-aged children, spouse of a leader of schools, and leader in educational organizations led her to see the need for a tool to improve the conversation between parents and schools – and to create Possip.

Shani attended public schools in Houston, Texas and is a graduate of Howard University. She holds an M.B.A. from Stanford University and started her career at Bain and Company before joining The Posse Foundation in Boston. After Stanford Shani worked on education cases for the Bridgespan Group and worked at the KIPP charter network supporting school launches. Through this work Shani became inspired to become a teacher herself and taught middle schoolers in HISD (Houston Independent School District), the same district she attended as a student. Shani has led teacher recruitment at Teach For America and Relay Graduate School of Education.

Shani lives in East Nashville with her husband and two kids."

https://www.possipit.com

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Ally Henny is a powerful voice against racism in America. In her own words the following labels apply: Jesus-follower. Wife. Mother. Teacher/Preacher. Wannabe Revivalist. Thinker. African-American. Innovator. and I would venture to add to that, Anti-Racist, podcaster, writer, and so much more. This is part 2 of 2 in which Ally and host Ariana Evans sit down and talk about the big stuff, the things that matter. It's gonna get good, y'all.

Ally's Podcast: Combing the Roots

Ally's website: The Armchair Commentary

Ally's writing: An author at The Witness

Ally's Public Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/allyhennypage/

Resources mentioned in this episode:

White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Robin DiAngelo

Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America by Christian Smith and Michael O Emerson

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Ally Henny is a powerful voice against racism in America. In her own words the following labels apply: Jesus-follower. Wife. Mother. Teacher/Preacher. Wannabe Revivalist. Thinker. African-American. Innovator. and I would venture to add to that, Anti-Racist, podcaster, writer, and so much more. This is part 1 of 2 in which Ally and host Ariana Evans sit down and talk about the big stuff, the things that matter. It's gonna get good, y'all.

Ally's Podcast: Combing the Roots

Ally's website: The Armchair Commentary

Ally's writing: An author at The Witness

Ally's Public Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/allyhennypage/

Resources mentioned in this episode:

White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Robin DiAngelo

Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America by Christian Smith and Michael O Emerson

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Jodi Hays is a Nashville based Artist, Educator, Curator, Mother and more. Ariana and Jodi spend an hour discussing what can only be described as "all the things" as our conversation weaves in and out of so many things including kids, art, parenting, the art scene, the music scene, psychology, EMDR, and babysitting, small town perspective, Jodi asking better questions than Ariana (who is the interviewer!), a shared distaste for housework, and the color turquoise all while hanging out in Jodi's studio.

From Jodi's website:

Biography

"Jodi Hays is a Nashville-based artist and curator. She has exhibited her work at galleries and museums across the United States including Corcoran Gallery of Art, Brooks Museum of Art, Wiregrass Museum of Art, Cooper Union and Boston Center for the Arts. Her work can be found in important public and private collections including J. Crew Company, the Tennessee State Museum and Music City Center. Her work is documented in seven exhibition catalogues, and has been positively reviewed in publications such as Number Inc. and Sharon Butler’s Two Coats of Paint.

She is a recipient of several awards including from the Sustainable Arts Foundation, Elizabeth Firestone Graham Foundation and the Tennessee Arts Commission. Hays holds a BFA (with Honors) from The University of Tennessee (Knoxville) and an MFA from the Vermont College of Fine Art. Residencies include the Cooper Union, National Parks of America and Vermont Studio Center. Her practice includes co-founding Dadu and COOP Gallery and teaching in the MFA at Watkins College of Art."

Artist Statement

"Painting can become many things in its particular way of note taking or organizing knowledge; landscape, abstraction, among others. These systems (grids) become a scaffold for pictorial inclinations. Stripes generate a placement in pattern, repetition and seriality. Textiles, associated with warmth, the body, pattern, domesticity and weave (stripes) inform this work, as do fragmentary shapes that are plant-like or jaggedly organic, bringing the “outside” into the studio. Hard-edged shapes exist with more rounded/floral moves, inviting associations with the architecture of the rural; awnings, bead board, weathered boards and lumber.

Paintings can function how a folded map relates to a pocket, holding potential to be a locative device, to consider consequences and ask questions, including and beyond self-reflexivity. The work is always generated from a daily relationship to drawing, painting and reading. My core iconography elucidates a conversation on abstraction and a generative, inexhaustible mark."

You can view more of Jodi's work on her website and her Instagram page and you can purchase her work through Red Arrow Gallery.

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Megan Lightell is the guest this week and we talk about her art and how she came to her current style of painting, as well as mothering, attachment parenting, and delving into new creative outlets.

You can follow her work on Instagram and see more of her lovely paintings on her website.

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I've been up all night. When this mama gets sick, gets anxious, gets worried, sleep is the first thing to go. Ariana talks about anxiety and mental health, all while making breakfast on an early Monday morning.

motherhood, parenting, SAHM, mom life, momlife, Nashville, mental health, anxiety, Ariana Evans, depression, S.A.D., SAD

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Porsche Pope is my lovely guest of the week and we talk all about how she takes people and their style to the next level. We talk about how she became a mother, how that merges with her work life, and what it looks like to be a personal stylist. Not only does she style humans, but homes and cuisine. It's more than clothes. Food, Fashion and Decor.

You can follow her on instagram @polishedpope

Or check out her site and contact her via https://www.polishedpope.com

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Jen McCarter, third time guest, talks about her upcoming Re.Treat in Turks and Caicos, hosted by herself and life coach and yoga teacher, Lauren Zoeller. Jen and Ariana talk about what finishing her RYT (Registered Yoga Teacher) 500 means for her practice and classes. Then of course, as always, things go off the rails and they follow some great conversational rabbit trails.

Re.Treat is November 14th - 19th, 2019 and you can go!!

Re.Treat - Turks and Caicos still has some spots available. You can find more information on the website. There are still a few spots available.

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Guest Shana Berkley talks about her work with Corner to Corner Ministry's "The Academy" division that offers entrepreneurial classes to those who want an on ramp into starting their own business. As a graduate of The Academy herself, Shana now manages the Academy and runs her own business called The Fashion Chase - Helping Corporately Creative Women Find Their Personal Style.

Resources mentioned in the podcast:

Corner to Corner

The Academy Nashville

The Fashion Chase - Shana's Instagram feed where she shows her own style and that of her clients.

Mothers, Daughters and Body Image: learning to love ourselves as we are ~ Hilary McBride - a great book

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Ariana Evans and guest Mandy Wallace continue the conversation about Mandy's 2 years of homeschooling in an RV all over the USA, the transition back home, her new musical podcast singalong for small kids.

You can check out Mandy's family's Roadschool journey here:

https://outsidetheslides.wordpress.com

https://nowtakeoff.com

https://rvmiles.com/author/mandywallace/

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Mandy Wallace talks about how she and her husband took 3 kids on the road for homeschool and and adventures in an R.V. Roadschool and how it all began in this episode! Part 2 is coming next week.

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Nicky and Ariana discuss the perils of traveling with kids. By land and by air! Nicky brinks her sense of humor and experience to the podcast and has a whole list of tips and tricks that she used to cope with her trips back and forth across the ocean to visit her country of origin. It's always fun when Nicky is on the podcast!

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Host Ariana Evans and guest Julie Kaalberg talk about how Julie went from a job in genetic testing to a career in sewing and designing her own line of garments for SewPOP, a popup fundraiser for the Sewing Training Academy.

Sewing Training Academy, a program of Catholic Charities of Tennessee, is where people in Nashville learn to sew for commercial purposes, specifically enabling members of the refugee population of Nashville to receive accreditation for the skills they may already have or to learn a new skill that will take them into a career. STA is hosting SewPOP, a pop-up vender event created to showcase student talent and provide funding for the Academy.

SewPOP will feature 12 new student vendors and 13 existing businesses selling their uniquely Nashville wares. It will showcase highly curated and original items made by students of STA. 30% of all sales will benefit the STA’s future training programs.

SewPOP's public event is happening in Nashville at Imogen + Willie on Saturday, September 7th from 10am - 4pm. The address for Imogen + Willie is 2601 12th Ave S, Nashville, TN 37204 The event is free for children with a suggested donation of $5 for adults.

Don't miss out on the preview event either! The preview event is Friday night, September 6th from 6pm-9pm. Tickets are $20 and you can purchase tickets to the preview event here or at the door of Imogene + Willie and you can learn more about courses and training from the Sewing Training Academy here.

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Mary W. - Parenting, loving, and advocating for a transgender child Host Ariana Evans and anonymous guest Mary W talk about parenting and loving and advocating for her child who, as a young adult, is transitioning male to female and her other adult child who identifies non-binary.

Resources:

  • Just Us - LGBT support group at the Oasis Center
  • A Guide to Gender (2nd Edition): The Social Justice Advocate's Handbook
  • PFLAG

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Ariana does a recap of the summer and talks about books and podcasts her family covered in their trips and travels this summer.

Books I loved this summer

  1. Inspired: Slaying Giants, Walking on Water, and Loving the Bible Again - Rachel Held Evans
  2. The Four-Gospel Journey - found on Audible by Dr. Alexander J. Shaia
  3. Mothers and Daughters and Body Image - Hillary McBride
  4. The creative habit : learn it and use it for life :a practical guide by Twyla Tharp

Kids books we loved via audio book

  1. Winterhouse - probably for older kids. Some creepy parts by Ben Guterson
  2. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - by Ian Flemming - as read by David Tennant.
  3. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Flies Again This and All CCBB books below by Frank Cottrell-Boyce
  4. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and the Race Against Time
  5. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Over the Moon The Great Brain - by John Fitzgerald
  6. By The Great Horn Spoon! Author Sid Fleischman
  7. Matilda and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory both by Roald Dahl
  8. Leven Thumps and the Gateway to Foo by Author Obert Skye
  9. Nanny McPhee returns - by Emma Thompson
  10. How to train your dragon series by Cressida Cowell
  11. The magic shop series - by Bruce Coville

Podcast the kids and I are loving now:

  1. Circle Round - stories from around the world
  2. This Podcast has Fleas

3.Peace Out

Podcast I am loving right now:

  1. Dear Sugars The Robcast Song Exploder
  2. Combing the Roots with Ally Henny
  3. The Rabbit Room Podcast
  4. The Robcast
  5. Song Exploder

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Host Ariana Evans and guest Mandy Rogers Horton discuss Mandy's visual art, parenting, teaching, growing as an artist, second careers, and shaking off the cultural idea that taking time to create and grow as a human (woman) in craft and art is selfishness.

You can see more of her art here: http://www.mandyrogershorton.com

here: https://www.theartscompany.com/mandy-horton

and a bit more here: https://www.theartscompany.com/horton

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Host Ariana Evans and Miranda Dolive discuss what it means to be a woman called to ministry in the church while also parenting 3 young kids. Miranda is the Music Minister for First Christian Church - Disciples of Christ in Longview TX. We talk origin story, how she came to be in ministry, creativity, teaching music, and the village of people who surround their family in this season and what is coming for their family, as well as a smattering of Texas facts.

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Host Ariana Evans and her daughter Cora (age 10) discuss Cora's thoughts and observations on parenting, brothers, middle school and how parents can give better / more effective discipline - all from a kids point of view.

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Host Ariana Evans and Shannon Lee Miller discuss Shannon's parenting her Autistic son while also parenting her other neurotypical children, how her son brought her back into music and how she writes and runs to process all of it.

You can read Shannon's beautiful, honest and insightful writing on https://medium.com/@shannonlmiller

and follow her beautiful story on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/shantasticvoyage

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Host Ariana Evans has a great conversation with Elizabeth (Liz) Reitz about Liz's new line of tween undergarments called Bleuet. For those of you who, like me, are a bit skeptical about items marketed to such a small slice of the population, you will love her mission, her empowerment of girls on their journey to womanhood, her mama heart that brought her to a place where she wanted to give her own children what they needed, couldn't find it and so made her own way, and truthfully, her product! You can find more information about the upcoming launch of Bleuet, and the amazing resources they have compiled on parenting girls through tween and teen years with compassion, love and bravery on the Bleuet website and on their instagram page.

https://bleuetgirl.com

https://www.instagram.com/bleuetgirl/

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Host, Ariana Evans and guest Caroline Lee sit down to talk about Caroline's foster care journey. In light of Foster Care Awareness month (May) she wanted to shine light on the challenging and beautiful truths that are a part of loving children from broken family systems. She also shares ways that people who are not ready to foster can be involved in supporting foster families.

Ways you can get involved in Tennessee:

https://www.tn.gov/tnfosters/foster-parent.html

https://www.tn.gov/tnfosters/how-you-can-help.html

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Ariana Evans along with Co-Host Nicky Nash and guest Jenny Anne sit down to discuss Jenny's impending album, motherhood, being a curly girl, backstage nudity, songwriting, giving music back to the community through her and her husband's non profit called Charleyville and so much more. It's all things Jenny Anne. Including a sneak peek at her new album!!

You can find Jenny Anne on social media:

https://www.facebook.com/jennyannesplace

https://www.instagram.com/jennyanneforever/

And you can learn more about Charleyville (how you can attend, help out, participate and more) at http://charleyville.org

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Ariana talks with Amy Carr and Brooke Lamb, LMFT as the three of them discuss their personal experiences with postpartum / antenatal depression, breaking the stigma and finding healing in connection and community.

If you are struggling and need someone to talk to, the crisis number in TN is 855-274-7471 and is Available 24/7 if you urgently need someone to talk to or are having a mental health emergency.

There is also a National number for Postpartum or Antenatal Depression 1-800-PPD-MOMS that’s 1-800-773-6667

https://www.readynestcounseling.com

https://postpartumstress.com/helpful-links/

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Ariana and Tracy Utley discuss Tracy's career as "Headmistress of the Utley Academy for Boys" the title her family laughingly and lovingly gave her to describe her homeschool situation. They also talk about life and a new career in massage therapy after homeschooling when the boys have left for college or have opted to explore public school. They also cover the ins and outs of whether or not to try diy basic plumbing, a touch of social justice and the difference between tenacity and stubbornness. Never a dull discussion!

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Ariana and Mary Thompson Johns talk about Mom Shame, Mom Grace, teenagers, first born children, and so much more. For those who are triggered by religious conversation, we do talk about this from a Christian perspective, although I (Ariana) think that grace is available to you, even if it doesn't come the way of a faith tradition, so you can take what is good and leave the rest.

Mary, aside from being a fountain of wisdom about parenting and life, also is an interior designer. Creating runs deep in her soul. At 64, she has had a rich, varied, and consistently creative life, while seeking out truth, health, grace, and wholeness. I (Ariana) love all aspects of how Mary moves through the world, and though we didn't cover it in the podcast, she is also an amazing designer, helping her clients bring out what they truly want in a home. I like to call her a design midwife. Her clients already have a deep love of color/design/functionality/beauty in their lives and she helps draw that out into reality. You can learn more about her work here.

http://www.maryjohns.com

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Ariana Evans sits down with guest Meredith Andrews and part-time podcast Co-Host, Nicky Nash, to talk about music, motherhood, faith, parenting, waiting, tree bathing, leading with vulnerability and Meredith's new album.

For more information about Meredith, please visit: https://meredithandrews.com

where you can find more information about music, tours and links to download Meredith's music.

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Sara Beth Cline and Ariana talk about YoungLives, which is like YoungLife but for teen moms. Sara B and many others in Nashville are mentors to teen moms in local high schools. We talk about how she got involved, how it began in Nashville, the beautiful and hard parts of serving and caring about teen moms.

Check out the YoungLives website for ways to get involved, big and small! Long term and short term!

https://www.nashvilleyounglives.com

If you would like to attend The Anchor of Hope banquet/concert in support of YoungLives, you can email Sara B: sarabethsother@gmail.com

The Anchor of Hope: May 2nd

An Evening with Nashville YoungLives

Featuring Ellie Holcomb

https://www.nashvilleyounglives.com/anchor-of-hope

https://www.ellieholcomb.com

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Ariana and Felecia James have a conversation about how Felecia handles life at home with 4 kids, one of whom has disabilities, and a husband in the military. We talk about joy, loneliness, how much failure is too much failure for kids, getting still and finding the quiet. We talk about a lot of things and we laugh! My (Ariana's) favorite thing to do.

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Ariana and Jen McCarter discuss Jen's oldest child's pediatric onset of Type 1 Diabetes, myths about natural (only) care of Type 1, and how our listeners can support Type 1 research and cure.

https://www.jdrf.org/midtennessee/

JDRF Promise Gala

Apr 13, 2019 - JW Marriott Nashville, Nashville, TN

https://www.jdrf.org/midtennessee/events/2019-jdrf-promise-gala/

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Nicky Nash and Ariana talk about the struggle to balance work and family, to find a direction when the Stay At Home Mom life is over, or at least the kids are all in school. Connection, loneliness, and the great question: What is my purpose? We also discuss the languishing Christmas Tree on my porch. At the end of February (which is when we recorded this episode).

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Ariana and Jen McCarter talk about how Jen got her start in Yoga, her upcoming Mother-Daughter Yoga Retreat and belt buckles as big as dinner plates. My face hurt from laughing. This gal is a hoot!

You can find Jen's fabulous classes:

  • Prenatal: Hot Yoga of East Nashville
  • Power Flow Classes: Hot Yoga of East Nashville
  • Restorative Yoga: Margaret Maddox YMCA

Contact:

jraemccarter@gmail.com

Subject line: Mother Daughter Retreat

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This is part 2 of 2 where Ariana and Tiffany Acuff talk about gentrification, serving and being a part of something bigger than yourself while in the midst of motherhood, seasons of service and being involved.

About Tiffany Acuff and Corner to Corner Ministries:

http://theacademynashville.org

https://cornertocorner.org

Social Media

https://www.instagram.com/cornertocorner/

https://www.facebook.com/CornerToCornerNashville/

Tiffany's writing:

https://nashville.citymomsblog.com/author/tiffanyacuff/

Tiffany's Books Recommendations

  • Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria- Beverly Daniel Tatum

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465060684 * Generous Justice - Tim Killer http://www.timothykeller.com/books/generous-justice * The Color of Compromise - Jemar Tisby

https://www.thecolorofcompromise.com

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Tiffany Acuff and Ariana talk about gentrification, transracial adoption, doing the work of ministering to neighbors and much more. This is part 1 of 2.

Corner to Corner is leading a study on The Color of Compromise, beginning Saturday 6-8:30pm, March 30th and every Saturday night through April at Riverside Assembly Hall.

About Tiffany Acuff and Corner to Corner Ministries:

http://theacademynashville.org

https://cornertocorner.org

Social Media

https://www.instagram.com/cornertocorner/

https://www.facebook.com/CornerToCornerNashville/

Tiffany's writing:

https://nashville.citymomsblog.com/author/tiffanyacuff/

Tiffany's Books Recommendations

  • Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria- Beverly Daniel Tatum

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465060684 * Generous Justice - Tim Killer http://www.timothykeller.com/books/generous-justice * The Color of Compromise - Jemar Tisby

https://www.thecolorofcompromise.com

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Dr. Lea Ann Lund talks about her passion for pediatric medicine, how she found her path and how that colors motherhood.

www.iseeyoumamapodcast.com

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