Finding Emo: Recent Episodes
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The guys have complicated feelings about Brand New, which is no surprise if you listened to the Your Favorite Weapon episode. How can they like the music so much, but dislike everyone else talking about how much they like the music? (they understand it doesn't make sense).
Instead of talking about an album, we're talking about our favorite songs/albums we listened to in 2022. Be sure to check out the notes below for links to all the tunes!
Notes:
- Playlist with all the tunes we discussed on Spotify and Apple Music
- The 1975 - Being Funny In A Foreign Language on Spotify and Apple Music
- The Midnight - Heroes on Spotify and Apple Music
- Spanish Love Songs - Brave Faces Everyone on Spotify and Apple Music
- Lights - Warehouse Summer on Spotify and Apple Music
- The Story So Far - Proper Dose on Spotify and Apple Music
We normally talk about really old music, but on today's snack we chat with a super fresh band - so fresh they just released their 2nd single ever this week! Kyle found the band on Reddit and invited Chris from Shower Beers to join us to talk about the tunes (one of which he believes is the first pop punk song tribute to an EDM song), how the band came about, and his prescription for America being more American Pie movies.
Shower Beers on Spotify and Apple Music
Shower Beers on Instagram
NOFX released a tune Fat Mike originally wrote with Matt Skiba and that was recorded for blink-182's California album, but didn't end up making the cut.
Punk Rock Cliche on Spotify and Apple Music
This band is too gigantic for 2/3 of us to have never listened to any of their albums all the way through, so we remedy that on this episode. We realize the irony of 3 guys who don't love screaming to have a podcast about emo music, but it is what it is.
Notes:
- Homesick on Spotify and Apple Music
- All I Want video
- Kyle's ADTR playlist for Blake
- Yep, Kyle wrote this country song
We're going back to Saves The Day's 1999 release for this episode. We talk about all the stuff you'd expect, including the (creepily foreshadowing) lyrical content. Here's what our faces looked like most of the time. 😬
Kyle and Blake talk about seeing Motion City Soundtrack, A Day To Remember, and The Used recently. Kris hasn't been to a concert in a bit, so he just cries in the background.
This one has to be on the podium of all time emo album titles, right? The Juliana Theory undoubtedly inspired a lot of bands with their 2000 album (which wasn't released Jan 1st despite Blake seeing so on Spotify - chalk that one up to a lazy intern at Tooth & Nail maybe). The guys talk at length about this and maybe get off on a tangent or twelve.
Notes:
- Emotion Is Dead on Apple Music and Spotify
- At The Top Of The World (reimagined) music video (sort of?)
- This was basically Kris' dance in GIF form
- Showoff's 1999 album
Paramore finally give us a peek into their new album scheduled to release in February 2023. We're pretty excited.
Well, our last snack was relevant for approximately 48 hours because as of this morning, it's official - blink-182 is back with Tom with a world tour and album in 2023. Join us as we discuss in a very special SNACK recorded pre-NINE AM! A true first for the podcast.
Adding further credibility to the rumors swirling around the internet of Tom re-joining blink-182 was a since-deleted tweet from the head of rock programming for Cumulus Media saying as much, and that the trio would be doing an arena tour in 2023. The guys discuss.
Story of the Year's debut album went platinum, y'all. So, despite Kris and Blake not having really given them a chance in the 2000s, we felt we had to do an epsiode on it.
Blake puts Kyle and Kris on the spot to think of the best concert they went to in the 2000s. It's highly probable all three guys spent the time between recording and releasing this episode kicking themselves for not including other shows. WE WERE UNDER PRESSURE!
Since we'll not be releasing a full album episode for Labor Day, we thought we'd put together a few songs we think you should check out. We each pick 2 old tunes, and one new(ish) one to share with each other...and you!
Playlist on Spotify and Apple Music
It's Cartel week here at Finding Emo, apparently. We talk about their new singles 17 and The End, and whether the beat in 17 should be referred to as "BLAH-ka-ka Blah-ka-ka" or "Clocks" beat. Very important stuff.
Cartel on Spotify and Apple Music
Did Kris and Blake's band have anything to do with the leaking of Cartel's debut full-length album? Do we all maybe have the same notes about some not-so-great lyrics on this album? Do we think this is a solid debut album from a band that got better and better? What's the meaning of life? We answer some of these questions on this episode.
Notes:
- Chroma on Spotify and Apple Music
- Absolute Punk Interview from 2005
- 2015 BuzzFeed Nostalgia Interview (with gifs!)
- Will Looks back on 10 years
- Julia Kugel’s band and article (BGVs vox on Q and A)
Dashboard Confessional and Andrew McMahon In The Wilderness are on tour together and just announced they'll be doing two live streams of upcoming shows.
Notes:
- Buy streaming tickets to the Hello Gone Days tour
- Andrew McMahon's new single, Stars (video)
- Jukebox the Ghost/Andrew McMahon - Wasted on Spotify and Apple Music
- Oh, and here's another Jukebox The Ghost tune featuring Justin Pierre from Motion City Soundtrack (Seriously, they're a fantastic band - check them out)
- In case you needed to know, the first streaming concert was in 1993
- And here's an epic Billy Joel live performance of (in Blake's opinion) his best song "Scenes from an Italian Restaurant" at the final show at Shea Stadium before they tore it down
The boys from AZ have a new single out. Spoiler alert: we like it.
Something Loud on Spotify and Apple Music
Buckle up because we're tackling what might be THE defining album of the genre on this episode. Between the lyrical concept, the production, the ballads, the guitar solos, and the vibraslaps there is a LOT going on on this album and we love (almost) every second of it.
Notes:
- The Black Parade on Spotify and Apple Music
- Welcome to the Black Parade video
- Famous Last Words video
- Teenagers video
- Frank's burnt guitar
Kyle has new music from Hot Mulligan for us to check out. We may get on a tangent or 3 in the process.
Hot Mulligan - Drink Milk And Run on Spotify and Apple Music
We already did The Used's sophomore album, but are going in reverse to talk about their debut self-titled album because it turned 20 years old this month! Blake complains about screaming, but overall we're even more impressed with this album than we were 20 years ago. Also, we continue to lavish praise on their wonderfully talented bass player.
Notes:
- The Used on Spotify and Apple Music
- Kyle horrified me with this picture mid-convo
We're trying something new! There's so much going on with these bands we talk about that we wanted to start recording and releasing little bite sized Finding Emo Snack episodes about the current goings-on in the genre. Bayside has new singles out, so that's what we talk about on the first SNACK! bonus episode.
Bayside - Strangest Faces (Spotify , Apple Music)
Bayside - Rainbow (Spotify , Apple Music)
We go back to 1998 for this one, chatting about Unwritten Law's self-titled or "black" album. Also, because it's been a month since our last episode (sorry, summer vacations and all), we get off-subject more than usual because we haven't talked in a while.
Notes:
- Blink 182 Covering ‘Shallow’ Unwritten Law
- Pat Kim // Tattoo Artist
- Scott Discussing Life and Some Moments from the Black Album
Let's talk about this monster of a record, ok? Fall Out Boy went multi-platinum with their 2005 sophomore effort, and we have lots of opinions. It might be the first time a song has been nominated for Nobody's Perfect by one host, and Desert Island Song by another.
Notes:
- From Under The Cork Tree on Apple Music and Spotify
- Fuze misheard lyrics commercial
- Sugar, We're Going Down music video
It's our 2 year anniversary! And our 50th episode! We celebrate by talking about one of our favorites, Futures by Jimmy Eat World. Gushing ensues. Blake gets mad at online articles referencing harmonizing guitars when they're actually octaves. Kris has opinions about Night Drive. Kyle somehow brings up Hinder. It's a long one, so buckle in!
Notes:
- Futures on Spotify and Apple Music
- Get our T-shirt!!!
- Kyle's referenced article interview with Jim
- Trombino sessions Reddit discussion (With link to dropbox files)
- If you're an audio nerd like Blake, check out this EQ article he referenced about the technical details of the recording of Futures
- Work music video
- Pain music video
- Futures Phoenix Sessions live performance (DEFINITELY check this out)
Did Bayside not get enough love in the 2000s? We think that might be the case. On this episode we talk about their 2011 album.
Notes:
- Killing Time on Apple Music and Spotify
- Interrobang is a real thing. Blake learned something today.
- Jack’s Rig
- Green Day Cover
Was there any way for the debut Angles & Airwaves album to live up to the absolutely astronomical (see what we did there?) expectations set by Tom DeLonge? The answer is a resounding "no", but we still like the album.
Notes:
We Don't Need to Whisper on Apple Music and Spotify
This marks our 2nd episode spent gushing over the talents of Hayley Williams and co. Don't say we didn't warn you.
Brand New Eyes on Spotify and Apple Music
We'd honestly forgotten about this record, which is a shame because it holds up much better than a lot of the other pop-punk released around the same time. We miiiiiight have issues with the opening and closing tracks, though. Maybe.
All Killer No Filler on Apple Music and Spotify
Shots fired! Blake comes in hot with his opinions on this album, so buyer beware (this is free, don't get too excited). 2002's mega super giant multiplatinum album from Good Charlotte has us feeling conflicted.
Notes:
- The Young and The Hopeless on Spotify and Ap ple Music
- Good Charlotte music videos
- Have you seen Joel's father-in-law?
- David Letterman (GOAT) performance
- Related, supercut of David Letterman (seriously, GOAT] asking guys about their drums
- Wow, they didn't even try with this Riot Girl merch
- Blake's LITERAL face Kris screengrabbed while listening to Emotionless
We think it's a travshammockery Motion City Soundtrack isn't more widely considered the face of the genre. They've got everything we love and came it hot with their follow up to Commit This To Memory. This album is underrated. Full stop.
After the dramatic Taking Back Sunday falling out, John Nolan and Shaun Cooper started Straylight Run along with Will Noon and John's sister, Michelle. On this episode, we talk about their awesome debut self-titled record. #teamnolan for sure.
Notes:
- Straylight Run on Apple Music and Spotify
The So Impossible EP turned 20 years old this week! In what should've been a shorter episode based on the math of this only having 4 songs, the guys ramble on about how dating was different in 2001 (they assume, even they've all been married for at least a decade) and how much they love this EP.
Notes:
- So Impossible EP on Spotify and Apple Music
Sorry about the long break! Kyle and Blake had colds, Blake's computer crashed, Blake's audio equipment didn't work after his computer got fixed, Kyle got busy with work...basically, we failed you all. It won't happen again. Or it will. Time will tell. ANYWAY! Back to talking about great 2000s albums, and this one is a doozy. Join us for a chat about our second Death Cab record on the show.
Notes:
- Plans on Spotify and Apple Music
- Holy cow, this album actually has a song that was on Scrubs
We're all in on Something Corporate's piano-driven pop/rock/punk vibes (and basically everything Andrew McMahon has done since). Although, for some weird reason, Kyle had never listened to this album before! But he's with us, now.
Despite the debut from Panic! selling over 2 million copies, the guys are not as impressed with it as you'd think. They think th $11k budget and 18 year old band members makes more sense as a measuring stick for the quality than the 2 million albums sold. Please don't hate us, Panic! fans!
Notes:
- A Fever You Can't Sweat Out on Spotify and Apple Music
- The Pitchfork article
Against Me!'s 2010 album was a departure from previous album styles, but that didn't stop 2/3 of the guys hosting this podcast from loving it. The other 1/3 is Blake, and he just honestly had never listened to the band before. Fresh ears!
While Yellowcard admittedly had a slight downturn post Ocean Avenue with their 2006 album Lights and Sounds, they were back to being one of the best pop-punk bands of the 2000s with the quick follow up, Paper Walls. It's one of Blake's all time favorites, and his wife has zero interest in it. It's a real tragedy.
"Warning?", you say, confused. YES. We think this 2000 Green Day album is the catalyst for the follow up success of American Idiot. Full stop. We love everything about this album, despite it being a commercial disappoinment for the band at the time.
Notes:
- Warning on Apple Music and Spotify
- Kinks - Picture Book
- Foreverly (Billy Joe and Norah Jones album)
- Minority music video
- Warning music video
Despite 2/3 of the guys not being huge Coheed & Cambria fans, we still manage to all have lots of opinions about this record. Siri even chimes in at one point to tell us how she feels about the record.
Notes:
- In Keeping Secrets... on Apple Music and Spotify
- Jesse's Girl 2
- Blood Red Summer video
- Jimmy Eat World's 555 graphic novel
Clocking in at our longest episode thus far, we talk about what is now regarded as Weezer's 1996 masterpiece (though it was basically hated by everyone at the time) and its contribution to the genres of the 2000s.
Notes:
- Pinkerton on Apple Music and Spotify
- The Terror of Tiny Town ACTUALLY exists. Kyle didn’t make it up. Here it is in its entirety on Youtube. Forgive us.
- SNL Weezer skit in which Blake is simultaneously every character
We really thought Acceptance was going to be HUGE back in the day. Unfortunately, they had a ton of bad luck. This album is great, anyway.
- Notes:
- Phantoms on Spotify and Apple Music
- Mentioned article
- The Sony Hack
- Hopes Low by Rockwell Social (Kyle’s new tune)
- Columbia has an impressive roster. Seriously.
- Difference video
It's our podcast and we'll slightly weave outside the genre if we want to! Look, if you haven't listened to this highly underrated album (because it came out before all the crazy one-take music videos), please do so and then listen to us talk about how much we love it.
OKGo on Spotify and Apple Music
- Cover artist
- What it Takes - Aerosmith
- Return story
- Chicago Go performance
- House of Heroes tune
- Sneaker Pimps song
- Les Mis performance
- NYT Article, and another (written by Damien)
- Bad Pi-atch-fork review
- Ok Go's Hungry Ghosts
Kyle brings fresh ears to a conversation about Copeland's 2003 debut album since he never really listened to it back in the day. Blake reveals where he stole the podcast's theme song from. Kris has a righteous mustache you can't see because it's a podcast.
Notes:
- Beneath Medicine Tree on Apple Music and Spotify
- There's a non-zero chance Coffee Dad likes Copeland's song "coffee"
- Blake's song Everything Falls (which we cut up and use for the podcast theme song)
- Paulson's Window Frames
- Copeland's Ixora and Ixora Twin (super highly suggest setting up two devices and listening to this album, seriously)
It's our 30th episode! We talk about Relient K's mainstream breakout album Mmhmm, which we've decided must be said in a sassy tone.
Notes:
- Mmhmm on Apple Music and Spotify
- Japanese cover art
- Be My Escape video
Some would argue Death Cab is indie, not emo. But it's our podcast and this album came out in 2003 and is close enough for us. Also, we really like the album a lot. Unlike Ben Gibbard's 2003 haircut.
Notes:
- Transatlanticism on Spotify and Apple Music
- The afformentioned 2003 Ben Gibbard look
- Transatlanticism is technically the song with the slowest tempo on the album, but since the drums are playing 8th note builds for most of the song it doesn't feel as slow as Lightness. We realize none of you actually care.
- We really didn't think about the Jesus and Mary Chain references two episodes in a row. Also, both Jim Adkins and Ben Gibbard get super sweaty during shows.
- Chris Walla's house was for sale, so this site got clever.
It's our 1st birthday! Woo hoo! Thanks so much for listening. On this episode we talk about Jimmy Eat World's super successful Bleed American album. Find out which of us would have danced in their underwear in The Middle's video shoot, given the chance.
Notes
- Bleed American on Spotify and Apple Music
- The Middle music video
- Pass The Baby
- Automatic by Jesus and Mary Chain
- Crappy cell phone video of Taylor Swift covering The Middle with Jim
- Jimmy Eat World covering Taylor Swift (complete with Zach looking like a Brooklyn plumber)
- (Splash) Turn Twist
Would this album be considered 100% pop if it weren't on Drive-thru? Probably. Does that make it any less good? No.
Notes:
- Album on Apple Music and Spotify
- Will Ferrel devil skit
- Jim Adkins Chase This Light solo performance
The Rocket Summer is definitely a band you're either totally into or don't like at all. The guys are decidedly all-in on Bryce's songs, and this is such a good debut album for a 19 year old to make.
Notes
- Calendar Days on Apple Music and Spotify
- Bryce’s best non-smile profile pic
- Do You Feel video with multiple cameos, proving he’s a solid dude
- The Rocket Summer live looping (the audio is cell-phone-quality bad, but you’ll get the idea)
(Let's try this again - Apologies for uploading bad audio on the first try)
Before the massive success of fun., there was The Format. On this episode we essentially look at half of their catalog, since they only made two albums.
- Interventions & Lullabies on Spotify and Apple Music
- We really think this is one of the better albums of the early 2000s, even though it’s not emo. OK Go
- Also, do yourself a favor and listen to some Harry Nilsson, while you’re at it.
- We apologize for taking 5 minutes for Blake to poorly describe the song, Somebody That I Used To Know, that he was thinking of.
- What Makes This Song Great Youtube
- Kyle’s old band, Rockwell Social
- Blake’s new band, Earthquake Weather on bandcamp (the 1st single, which wasn’t SO good that he couldn’t risk putting it out there, is also on streaming services)
- Academy Is - Slow Down
- Dog Problems
Kris and Blake finally come to terms with how much The Ataris influenced their band's music. Plus, a discussion about what makes a great cover. And more!
On a very special episode of Finding Emo...The guys put together a mix tape of their favorite romantic mix tape jams from the genre. Plus, you get to hear about Kyle's incredibly awkward evening with Aaron Marsh from Copeland (it was all Kyle's fault).
Notes
Finding Emo Valentine’s Day playlists!!! On Spotify and Apple Music
Also, here’s one on Spotify you can add your own tunes to!
All of It - MXPX
The Agreement - Lakes (or now Eager Seas)
Pretend You’re Alive - Lovedrug
New Acceptance album Wild, Free
The Garth Brooks song mentioned is That Summer, but per Garth’s wishes you can only play it on CD or Vinyl, because it’s not on any streaming service.
We finally get around to doing a Dashboard Confessional album! Spoiler alert: we all have man-crushes on Chris Carraba.
Notes:
- The thing on the cover art
- Just a few 9 track albums that are great: Billy Joel - The Stranger, Peter Gabriel - So, Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic, American Football - LP1 & LP2, Coldplay - Ghost Stories…I’m just saying it’s possible.
- Chris Carrabba’s Rig Rundown
We'd be lying if we said Pete Wentz didn't get under our skin a little back in the day, but that doesn't take anything away from this being a heck of a debut album from Fall Out Boy.
Notes:
- Take This To Your Grave on Apple Music and Spotify
- JimmyEatWorldLive.com for Phoenix Sessions tickets
- Original artwork
- Show me what you got Rick & Morty clip
- Jack Black High Fidelity clip
- Deep thoughts from Kyle
- Joni Mitchell’s “new” version of Both Sides Now (which Blake thinks is a better version of the song. Not just because it makes him cry and not just because of Love Actually, either)
- Save Rock N Roll on Spotify
- Finding Emo Bingo card
Are Taking Back Sunday lyrics the most commonly tattooed emo lyrics? We think so. And we can see why, honestly. Listen to find out who's on Team Jesse, Team Adam, Team Nolan, and Team Edward (wait, sorry, that's something else...).
Notes:
- Tell All Your Friends on Apple Music and Spotif y
- By the way, the budget for the album was $10,000 and they did the whole thing in two weeks. So, yeah, it was pretty rushed we'd say.
- Anxiously waiting with hands rubbing meme
For the final episode of 2020 (good riddance) we dive into Paramore's 2007 Sophomore album. We spend half of the episode complaining about the band's decision to not play Misery Business live anymore.
Notes:
- Sherwood's similar guitar hook intro to Hallelujah (predating it by a year)
- Natalie Merchant's Wonder video (and Bob's Burgers' cover )
- The Whitest Light's (formerly Happy Endings) song Miracle (the best Miracle, in Blake and Kris' opinion)
- Captain Morgan's Holiday Miracle commercial. Also this one . And this one .
Don't ask us why it took us 18 episodes to get to this classic. We don't have a good excuse. Saves The Day captured some serious magic with this album in 2001, and it's as good now as it ever was.
Notes:
- Stay What You Are on Apple Music and Spotif y
- Ruston Kelly's cover of At Your Funeral
- The Moopets (They're no Muppets, but Dave Grohl is a member so...)
- Chris Farely interviewing Paul McCartney
Ok, so we lied about The Everglow being the next episode (for good reason, we promise). So instead we're wishing a Sweet 16 to blink-182's untitled/self-titled (argument to ensue) album from 2003.
Notes:
- Ken Andrew's Credits
- Always Video
- Robert Smith on the red carpet (just for fun)
- Kris is sort of right...Mark does always refer to it as Untitled, but others still refer to it as blink-182 or self-titled. I guess it really doesn't matter, right?
Jack's Mannequin's debut coming-of-age masterpiece Everything In Transit came out 15 years ago, and Kris and Blake were fortunate enough to watch Andrew and his new band rock the whole thing front to back at a drive-in show over the weekend. After the drive home, they then hopped on the podcast to discuss the album with Kyle.
Notes
- Everything In Transit on Apple Music and Spotify
- Slipping Into The Airwaves Blog
- Dark Blue Video (which does not feature Tommy Lee, unfortunately)
- Dear Jack Foundation
Just in time for Halloween, we picked the most eye-linery band around, AFI, and their 2003 smash hit Sing the Sorrow. Kyle has determined this album to have, hands down, the most emo lyrics of all time and gives us his favorites, track by track.
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Notes:
- Sing the Sorrow on Apple Music and Spotify
- AFI did not play Warped Tour in 2006 when Blake and Kris’ band played one stop in Kansas City, and Blake discovered his guitars stolen. Long story.
- Fine, Kyle is correct about the beat being slightly different in Terminator 2, but it sounds very similar in tonality.
- There are lots of Boss loop pedals. Kyle can’t be sure of which he saw, because he’s a bass player
- Album was recorded at Cello Studios in Los Angeles, CA
- By the way, Jerry Finn mixed the record
We skip right ahead to The Used's sophomore album...not because their first one isn't deserving of an episode, but just because we really like this one and IT'S OUR PODCAST!
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Notes:
- In Love and Death on Apple Music and Spotify
- John Feldmann’s production credits
- In Love and Death was released on Reprise
- It’s a jam for me, dudes
Motion City Soundtrack made the happiest music with the saddest lyrics. On this episode we cover their sophomore (and breakout) album, Commit This To Memory. It's solid!
Notes
- Commit This To Memory on Apple Music and Spotify (and Vinyl, in case you’re interested)
- A supercut of actors saying the name of the movie in the movie (including Clear and Present Danger)
- Limbeck’s fantastic Hi, Everything’s Great album
- It’s all Jay Leno’s fault (which we incorrectly remembered being sang on Conan O’Brien’s show, but it was actually on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon. Memory is weird, y’all).
- New Single on Spotify
- Blake can’t find any mention of L.G. Fuad as fully spelled out on the internet, but it’s weird that both he and Kris’ original iTunes import are fully spelled out. Who knows?!
- 3 Amigos clip
- The “Made You Look” game Blake referenced visually (sorry, he forgot it’s a podcast) is this one. 👌 MADE YOU LOOK!
- L.G. Fuad, Everything is Alright videos
- Next Episode - The Used - In Love and Death
It's our first contentious episode where everyone doesn't love the album. "But guys, EVERYONE loved this album!", you say. Not so. Apparently one of our hosts is the only person alive that didn't like it. Listen to find out who it is!
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Notes
We just couldn’t get around this episode being explicit due to some of the lyrics. It’s all in the song clips, so earmuffs (if applicable)! Also, we had some technical difficulties on this one so apologies for Kris and Kyle’s voices not sounding quite as sexy and high-quality as they normally do.
- …Is A Real Boy on Apple Music and Spotify
- Tim O’Heir’s All Music credits (since he somehow doesn’t have a Wikipedia page)
- Kris and Blake’s band, Minutes Too Far, were distributed by Doghouse and, in fact, featured a very slightly out of tune acoustic guitar on their track Quit Your Hardcore Band (While You Still Can) (around the 2:15 mark)
- Kris’ AMAZING birthday present for Blake this year (we both LOVE The Darkness)
- Listen to Commit This To Memory by Motion City Soundtrack (Apple Music / Spotify) before our next episode comes out!
If My Chemical Romance's Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge album isn't a definitive early 2000s emo record, we don't know what else would possibly qualify. The music, lyrics, outfits, swagger, makeup...it really defined the genre.
Notes
- Screw it. We’re just gonna use @emo_podcast on Twitter.
- Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge on Apple Music and Spotify
- Howard Benson’s Discography
- Quote from Gerard Way about the concept of the album (unfortunately, Reddit didn’t site the source)
- Pitchfork article
- “I’m Not Okay” music video
- “Helena” music video (another Marc Webb directed video, by the way)
- “Helena” is pronounced…hel-AY-nuh. SOURCE!
- Is Gerard name-dropping Kris and Blake’s Weezer cover band, Tweezer?
- My Chemical Romance/The Used “Under Pressure” cover
Let's talk about punk rock with a violin! Specifically, Yellowcard's super successful Ocean Avenue album. Spoiler alert: Blake doesn't shut up about how much he like's all of Yellowcard's bridges in their songs.
- Ocean Avenue on Spotify and Apple Music
- The OKC Green Door show was Oct 22, 2003 and Ocean Avenue was released on radio Dec 16, 2003, for reference.
- Marc Webb (500 Days of Summer, The Amazing Spider-Man) directed the Ocean Avenue music video, which is awesome.
- Ben Harper went on to be the founder and CEO of Takeover Records
- Ryan Key’s vocal surgery was between Lights and Sounds and Paper Walls, and their hiatus was 2008-2010 between Paper Walls and When You’re Through Thinking, Say Yes albums. This is when he did his Big If side project, as well.
- Maybe Ryan Key uses the Silicon Valley “Middle Out” methodology for writing bridges? (Hilarious, but very NSFW)
- Only One Video (he puts the flower in a gun, by the way. Not a tank, as Kyle kept claiming. But standing in front of the tank as if he’s the guy in Tiananmen Square is so cringe-worthy we can’t believe they thought it was a good idea).
- Kris kept messing up the lyrics of the “Believe” bridge, which are “Want to hold my wife when I get home”
- Blake was a little wrong. The speech in the background of Believe is a combined speech on the 1st anniversary of 9/11 between Michael Bloomberg and NY Governor George Patki. The part in the bridge is Bloomberg, and the end of the song is Pataki reading the Gettysburg Address. As much as Blake likes history, he’s really beating himself up for not recognizing that last line as being from maybe the most famous speech in American history.
- If saying “Californ-i-a” good enough for Dr. Dre, it’s good enough for Blake.
Kyle and Kris are huge MXPX fans. Blake, not so much. Truth be told, he listened to this album for the first time the day of the episode recording. Therefore, he's clueless as to what constitutes an appropriate MXPX tattoo (don't worry, Kris and Kyle set him straight).
On this episode we talk about The Starting Line’s underrated sophomore effort, Based On A True Story. While the lead single originally left a very very bad taste in Kris and Blake’s collective mouths, they’ve since come around to realizing what Kyle knew all along; this album is a masterpiece.
Note: While this is technically edited to be “clean”, we do talk at length about the song Bedroom Talk so maybe skip that part if you’ve got kids in the car? K.
Show Notes:
- Based On A True Story on Spotify and Apple Music
- A&M got merged into Universal back in 1999
- Jason Tate’s original Absolutepunk.net review of the album
- Kris wasn’t wrong - Autography literally means “Autobiography”
- The Harden GIF (pronounced with a hard G, by the way). One of the best, for sure.
The guys talk about their fellow Oklahomies, The All-American Rejects, and their self-titled debut album from 2002. And what a pop-tastic album it is, indeed!
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- Split versions of songs
- The All-American Rejects were actually never featured on the TV show, Scrubs - Side note, the day after we recorded this episode, Sam Lloyd, who played Ted the lawyer on the show, died. :(
- Mark Hoppus’ tweet about writing the lyrics “She Said” all the time
- The mid-tempo ballads Blake was specifically thinking about from the 2006 show he and Kris were at were Straightjacket Feeling and It Ends Tonight
- The word “away” appears 31 times on this album. The words “a way” also appear 6 times. That averages out to 3.36 times per song.
- While editing, Blake realized that “singularily” is not a word. He apologizes.
- Happy Endings was not a single. Blake’s dumb.
- They do play Happy Endings live, but much earlier in the set than we would’ve thought.
- Tyson’s interview about The Last Song, written in the 11th hour in the studio for this album
- Blake’s memory wasn’t completely wrong. They did, in fact, play The Last Song before the encore the last time he saw AAR live.
For those complaining the podcast doesn't have enough drama, do we have an episode for you! Okay, so maybe it's not as much drama as there ever was between Brand New and Taking Back Sunday, but let's just say our feelings for Brand New and their debut album Your Favorite Weapon are complicated.
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Show notes:
- Spotify and Apple Music
- Universal Warehouse fire of 2008 - For those that aren’t aware, film and tape is suuuuuper flammable.
- Referenced and incredibly well written Stereogum article
- Album Sales - Prior to 2011 reissue, it had sold over 315,000. So, not Gold (500,000).
- Lyric count of Failure By Design vs Seventy Times 7 - Not counting the repeated lyrics of chorus’, Failure has 284 words and Seventy has 382. For comparison, blink-182’s The Party has 361. Also, for comparison Blake’s wordiest song he ever wrote has 179 words (what a slacker).
- Blake's not completely crazy - While putting the episode together, he came across this image of the original artwork with the title of Soco Amaretto Lime mispelled, but can't find any documentation of the typo on the internet.
The fellas talk about Chris Carabba's pre-Dashboard Confessional band (or mid-Dashboard band, depending how you look at the timeline), Further Seems Forever and their debut album, The Moon Is Down. Spoiler alert: We all have man-crushes on Chris Carabba.
- The Moon Is Down on Spotify and Apple Music
- Easiest fact check ever - Chris Carabba and Carrabba’s Italian Grill aren’t even spelled the same!
- What is the tempo of Pictures of Shorelines? 189 BPM
- Snowbirds and Townies video
- The lead singer of Gin Blossoms, in fact, is not dead. Their original guitarist/songwriter tragically committed suicide shortly after Hey Jealousy became a hit for the band, which he was already kicked out of by the A&M at the label due to his heavy drinking. Forgive our memories…it was 1993. We knew someone important had died. Also, we were like 11 at the time.
- How to Start a Fire - The Sound video
- Summers Kiss EP by Dashboard Confessional
Here's one that's on everyone's top 20 emo albums. The Get Up Kids' Something To Write Home About is a classic. And yes, we realize we've done more 90s albums than 2000s at this point.
Show notes:
- Something to Write Home About - Spotify & Apple Music
- Article Kris mentioned - Stereo Gum
- Fenix Tx - All My Fault (Spotify)
- On A Wire live energy inspiring Guilt Show’s songs
- Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure clip
- Kyle’s right. Big Blue Monkey was Story of the Year’s first band name. We don’t know why Blake put the part about “Balls” in there…
Yes, we realize we're only 3 episodes into this and we've done 2 pop-punk albums. But, we think they're the two that influenced a lot of the pop-punk and emo in the years following. Plus, it's our podcast soooo we'll do what we want.
Show notes:
- Spotify and Apple Music links to album
- Jerry Finn Version of Hit or Miss
- Ex-Miss and So Many Ways
- Neil Avron’s Wikipedia
- Fact check: Wing-wangs are, in fact, on the internet
- Spotify and Apple Music links to Coming Home album
As adolescent males in 1999, we were required by law to know every lyric of this album, so it's got a real special place in our musical history and influence. And yet, Kris learned things he never knew about this album during this episode.
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Show notes:
- Spotify and Apple Music
- Fact Check: Green Day’s “Good Riddance” was released in 1997, before “Adam’s Song”
- Jerry Finn Discography
- American Pie soundtrack version of “Mutt”
- American Pie scene featuring “Mutt”
- Enema of the State sold 15 million copies worldwide
On the inaugural episode of the podcast, the guys go track by track through Jimmy Eat World's 1999 masterpiece Clarity and talk about how it influenced a generation of bands.
Show Notes:
- Clarity’s 10 Year Anniversary post by Jim Adkins and Zach Lind
- Mark Trombino’s credits wikipedia
- Sound City documentary
- Chase This Light is criminally cheap to purchase
- More specifically, Saving Private Ryan was the last film edited on 35 mm to win an Oscar for editing
