Creative Destruction Podcast is a Bi-Weekly storytelling show where host Cameron Cook and his guests tell stories about the people and the events that shaped their lives.
What's the title of this movie? Who decided to make it a comedy? Why isn't every movie as good as this one?
Wilford Brimley is the big bad in this twisty legal thriller about a young hotshot lawyer who realizes his new job is a little too good to be true.
Hannah and Cameron talk Brimley, Hackman, movies about lawyers, and Holly Hunter's voice.
Tom Cruise and Demi Moore need their friend Kevin Pollak and a conga line of 90s faces to solve the crime at the end of this Aaron Sorkin-penned Rob Reiner film.
Hannah and Cameron talk Bryan Singer, German history, accents, British thesbians, and more in this episode.
Hannah and Cameron discuss Michael Mann's 2004 film, Cruise's salt and pepper hair, Jamie Foxx as an actor, digital filmmaking, and more.
Philip Seymour Hoffman smashing the backboard in minute one helps reinvigorate the Mission: Impossible rewatch for Hannah and Cameron, who talk through the JJ Abrams of it all in his feature film directing debut.
Hannah and Cameron discuss Francis Ford Coppola's 1983 film and the extraordinary roster of young stars.
Hannah and Cameron talk Martin Scorsese's only Tom Cruise movie, starring Academy Award-winner Paul Newman and nominee Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio. They talk Tom Cruise's earring, minimal vs maximal acting, Scorsese's eighties, and more.
Hannah and Cameron talk about military commercials, Tony Scott, the legacy of homoerotic readings between Maverick and Iceman, Tim Robbins, Val Kilmer, and more.
Hannah and Cameron discuss the most 2000 movie ever made, with a Mission: Impossible Theme cover by Limp Bizkit and lots of slow-motion doves provided by the Chinese auteur John Woo. Cruise does his best to have chemistry with his female counterpart, but, again, fails to deliver in what is turning out to be his most impossible mission.
Hannah and Cameron talk about Ridley Scott's 1985 flop Legend, the miraculous performance of Tim Curry, Tom Cruise's fantasy-aesthetic, Rob Bottin's unbelievable makeup work, and this film's connection to Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings series.
Hannah and Cameron talk about Robert Downey JR's all-timer performance, Ben Stiller's direction, Tom Cruise's chops as a comedian, and the 2009 Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.
Hannah and Cameron try to make sense of the dreamlike and melancholy filmmaking of this hijinks-filled satire-drama-romance that sparked the beginning of Cruise's icon status.
Hannah and Cameron discuss the 2012 film Jack Reacher directed by Christopher McQuarrie and based on the Lee Child novel "One Shot"
We discuss how Reacher can be distinguished from Ethan Hunt, Rosamund Pike's odd career, Robert Duvall in final shootout scenes, and whether Cruise was the right fit for Reacher at all.
Hannah and Cameron watch Mission: Impossible--the conversation circles around Tom Cruise's star persona, the many twists and turns of the Robert Towne script, what De Palma brings to the table, and more.
Cameron and Hannah are back after an extended sabbatical, and they're bringing a whole new season -- Cruise Control
Cetus-Lupeedus? More like Vega-Omega! Zenon is back in this trilogy-capping bit of completely incomprehensible nonsense. Count the Zs in the background, wonder why everybody hates Cassie, and mourn the loss of bully-Margie in this film that posits the ultimate question--is Zenon the most important person in the universe?
Greg is easy to get over Major, Margie becomes a main character, and everybody else has been recast. Sounds like another disappointment minor from the DCOM sequel (ahem, Zequel) machine.
Cetus-Lupeedus! The Space-Stay has been inky since Lutz-the-Klutz put that viral disk major into the main memory core. Now it's up to troublemaker Zenon, new boyfriend Greg, and bully Margie to save the day before Microbe (and the hunky leadsinger Proto Zoa) can perform the first ever rock'n'roll concert in space!
Have you ever felt neglected by your parents? Was your art teacher super cool? Do you have a genius best friend who seems to be in need of child protective services? Then you may relate to Jamie Grover, sister of the Grover Quints of Milford!
Why is Eddy's dad like that? How did he get married? Why are all of Eddy's friends awful? What is the...appeal...of this film? Cameron and Hannah get to the bottom of it in this episode about...what else?...the queer-coded DCOMS of yesteryear.
Ryan Merriman, the reigning king of DCOMS, stars in this film about a girl who can talk to dolphins. We talk James Whitmire, Mischa Barton, Dean from Gilmore Girls, and more in this episode.
Ever been a merman? Do mermaids usually have electrical powers? Why is he so sticky? Cameron and Hannah get right down to it.
Is Cosmo Cola a red flag or a green flag? What kind of life does a gasbag live? How would you go about attaining a body if you were a gasbag? Windsurfing is cool.
Do you have a Movie Mason in your life? What would you do to catch the Phantom of the Megaplex? Are movie theaters dead? Is this movie scary?
Hannah and Cameron talk about the amazing creature designs and bizarre plot choices of this truly unhinged Disney Channel Original Movie.
Sara Paxton replaces Kimberly J Brown in this fourth entry in the Halloweentown franchise, where the Cromwells continue their reign of terror on the undeserving pumpkinheads of the world.
The continued saga of how the Cromwell witches are the architects of their own demise. Cameron and Hannah talk about unusual pacing, unclear political messages, stupid characters, and the ongoing jokes about Grandma Aggie's bags.
Did the Halloweentown set disappear? Can we find it at Gort's house? Do you just have to avoid the word "apart" forever, or is there more to it? Headphones would have been good information for the kids in all the years the grandmother was absent. Has nobody attempted the spell to open the gate...ever? Marnie is a hacker, and Kalabar has a son!
So begins Hannah and Cameron's coverage of the Halloweentown franchise. How does it work? How old is Aggie? What's the deal with the mom? How does the magic work?
In this episode, Hannah opines about the most awkward kiss in the history of cinema. Cameron demonstrates his science history knowledge. Stephen Tobolowsky talk, opinions about lunch room announcement, and more.
Cameron and Hannah talk about vampires, moms, and Sabrina in this conversation about the Disney Channel Original Movie Mom's Got a Date with a Vampire.
Can a movie be plagiarism if it steals from every movie? Hannah and Cameron talk about the 2002 Halloween movie The Scream Team, a bizarre and philosophically confusing film starring a member of Monty Python and a performance from Tommy Davidson that feel's like a witch's curse.
Cameron and Hannah discuss what makes the 1998 film Brink! so memorable to the elder Millenials. Is it the hot soundtrack, the sick skating, the anti-corporate messaging, or the nice conversation between a father and son? We talk about Aristotle, selling out, good fathers, and cool brothers.
Hannah and Cameron talk about Under Wraps, the first official Disney Channel Original Movie, and its remake, Under Wraps.
What changed in twenty-four years? What stayed the same? Is one of them better than the other? What is Under Wraps...about?
Hannah has a lot of burning questions about Mummies.
The hero's journey, and the stakes have never been higher.
This movie seems to think women are only extensions of men.
Gunther has sleep apnea.
What would you do if you switched places with your sister? In this movie, there's much more table dancing than you'd expect.
Listen to Hannah and Cameron talk about the rivalries between siblings, the unrealistic portrayal of teaching, the unbearable parents, and more in this episode.
Susie Q is a movie about a ghost who helps a kid start playing basketball again after he helps her as the whistleblower for a huge real estate scam in a small town in Washington State.
Cameron and Hannah discuss the five stages of grief, the bizarre narrative choices of the filmmakers, and the unintentionally hilarious scenes of this 1996 made-for-TV movie.
Hannah and Cameron announce the focus of their new season of Creative Destruction, and while it maintains a focus on TV programming, the vibes will be very different.
This season, it's a Hannah's pick.
The grand finale not only of Twin Peaks, but of this season of Creative Destruction Podcast. Where do we leave all of our characters? Were our questions answered? Is this a good finale?
How many people can fit in Sheriff (Frank) Truman's office? Is there a better use of old footage in the history of cinema than the use of it in this episode? Is Jeffries friend or foe? What happens in the next episode?
Coop IS the FBI, Dougie leaves our airwaves, Diane is a tulpa, Richard Horne exploded on a rock, and Chantal and Hutch had an American experience.
Dougie got zapped! Mr. Todd is dead (and Roger)! Philip Jeffries returns...kind of. Norma and Big Ed are tying the knot after all these years, and the Steven subplot is...really bad?
Diane and Dougie are related?! What's a tulpa? Andy was chosen by the Fireman? James is a...security guard? For the Great Northern? Lissie is a terrible lip syncher!
Is Dougie's story over? Will Audrey ever actually GO to the Road House? Can James still hit those high notes? Is Mr. C the greatest arm wrestling champion of them all? Can Norma really be a giant sellout? Will Nadine and "Dr. Amp" fall in love? Hannah and Cameron are trying to get to the bottom of it!
How long does it take for a French lady to leave the room? Audrey returns with a sleepy husband we can all relate to. The reveal of the Blue Rose, a touching story from Ben Horne, and the sad reality of Sarah Palmer.
Gordon Cole sees the woodsmen, Detective Macklay gets a surprise, Shelly and Bobby try to be parents, the Twin Peaks police department reads a map, and the Double R Diner experiences a public shooting.
Is Dougie actually hot? Are the Mitchum brothers too mean to Candie? Where are all the friends? Join Hannah and Cameron for another conversation about Twin Peaks.
After the abstract bonanza of part 8, we are given episode so focused on plot that we don't really know how to approach it analytically. Lots of different police investigations are happening between Vegas, the FBI, and the town of Twin Peaks, and we're here to figure out if we're getting any closer to a solution.
Lynch and Frost hit us with the meatiest episode yet in terms of plot. Hannah finally gets her wish and meets Diane, we see some old dudes talk on Skype, and we get updates on some of our favorite characters!
A terrifying car accident, Harry Dean Stanton, a cool coin trick, and the nature of how media consumption is changing in the era of streaming. A packed episode! We get philosophical!
Cameron and Hannah talk about this 'tweener episode of The Return, where seemingly nothing happens, but at the end of the day...a car exploded and an unexpected Ghostbuster made a cameo. Is Amanda Seyfried a good fit for the Twin Peaks universe? All that and more in this week's episode.
Hannah laments Dougie, but Cameron welcomes him with the most open of arms. Who will win the ultimate showdown, Hannah's pragmatism or Cameron's love of odd maximalism?
Hannah and Cameron fight over whether or not this episode is HOT or NOT, they talk about the introduction of the polarizing Dougie Jones, the impulse to like or dislike something based on preconceived notions, and how to live in the weird structures Frost and Lynch have created for this season.
Hannah and Cameron talk about the Red Room, the Arm's glow-up moment, Mr. C's big plan, the return of James, and how much easier the show is to follow than Hannah remembered.
Part 1 of The Return delivers a new mystery, several new characters, some old favorites, and a new tone. Will Hannah like all the new additions to the original series, or will it be too weird for her? What's in the box?
Hannah and Cameron put together the missing pieces of Fire Walk With Me and realize...Lynch was right to cut most of it! They talk 'deep lore' and easter eggs and what to expect from the coming season.
Hannah and Cameron talk about the horrifying, surreal, and brilliant film prequel to the original series of Twin Peaks. We talk about defying expectations, Sheryl Lee's incredible performance, the huge shift in tone, and how Lynch is able to create nightmares.
The end of Season 2 is here! David Lynch returns to the director's chair with a barn-burning episode featuring a half-hour trip to the Red Room, and maybe the most avant-garde episode of television ever broadcast--to this day. Hannah and Cameron talk through the end of several character plotlines, directorial choices, the rules of the Red Room, and that fully unhinged ending cliffhanger.
Hannah and Cameron break down the highs and lows of a mostly aimless season of television, talk through character arcs, argue about the goodness of Leo Johnson, gripes with Coop's decisions, and look forward to the finale.
Hannah and Cameron talk about Lana, the REAL villain, take bets on who will win Miss Twin Peaks, and talk through the Windom Earle disguises--including his new disguise as a horse.
Hannah and Cameron talk about Teen Witch, Robyn Lively as the potential big bad, Twin Peaks fanfiction ideas, the bizarre performance of the 'Pauly Shore Guy' who gets a crossbow bolt death scene inside a papier mache chess pawn, and much more.
Hannah and Cameron talk about Spelunking, Windom Earle's future as an Etsy seller, David Lynch's triumphant return, and the sweetness we've missed.
Cameron and Hannah explore one of the most interesting episodes of the show so far--and why is Harry Truman being forced to give dinner-theater-Hamlet performances?
Hannah and Cameron talk through the single worst episode of Twin Peaks, and they get a little punchy along the way.
Hannah and Cameron talk through Audrey's theme being desecrated, James' endless plotline, Ben Horne's recreation of a Civil War battle, and the merciful revalation, after fourteen episodes of buildup, of Windom Earle.
Hannah and Cameron get to the bottom of this odd episode that feels more like a series of deleted scenes than a cohesive throughline. They discuss Ben Horne's Civil War reenactments, the fading promises of Wyndam Earle, Inspector Gadget, and Lucy's big sweaters.
Cameron and Hannah talk about Major Briggs, how Ben is the new Leland, Coop's new look, and the dead magic of the B-plots.
Hannah and Cameron rip into one of the lowest points of the original series. Who are all these new characters? Why are all the new plots so boring? How can the show correct itself as it heads into its final episodes?
Hannah and Cameron talk about the soft-reboot of the show, the machinery of the plot, Cooper's perfection, and alien abduction.
Hannah is excited to talk about her favorite episode so far. Cameron is excited to talk about the cycles of evil in families. They are both excited to revisit the all-magical Bang! Bang! Bar.
Hannah and Cameron compare the nuances of Twin Peaksto the unsubtle Dahmer show on Netflix (Directed in part by David Lynch's daughter, Jennifer). They talk about the benefits of using a surreal narrative, how Lynch employs musical fugues into his plots, and the love-to-hate-him aspects of Ben Horne.
Cameron and Hannah talk about nostalgia, violence on TV, Robert Bresson's Pickpocket, Ray Wise's incredible performance, and the answer to the Laura Palmer mystery.
Hannah and Cameron go on a DCOM tangent, talk about the film Blank Check, and, of course, the fabulous return of Audrey Horne.
Cameron and Hannah talk about an episode with dueling heists, a melting man, a medical revelation, and can-do girls who sometimes just can't.
Why is the court set up in the lawless Bang-Bang Bar? Where is Audrey's story going from here? Why is Donna's heist idea so awful?
Is Harry S. Truman a secret model for LL Bean?
Is Lucy the main character of this episode? Is season 2 following the same structure as a Gilmore Girls season? Does this show know what to do with Josie? In this episode, Hannah and Cameron talk about night fighting, stretching those hammies, and the value of a good Bookhouse Boy.
After a mishap, Hannah and Cameron record the second version of an episode that was destroyed. Turns out, the dry run worked well for this episode, where the conversation takes strange turns and gets metaphysical. The owls are NOT what they seem.
Hannah and Cameron talk about "Just You" and the famous BOB scare, the Horne Bros. Comedy Hour, the show's change in direction and in tone, and why changing the formula is both good and bad for the future of the show.
Hannah and Cameron talk about the difference between visions and dreams, what surrealism can accomplish versus realism, the mark of a great director, and the various excellent performances of this feature length episode.
In a very special season-finale bonanza of an episode, Hannah and Cameron talk about the philosophy of dreams, plot-pacing vs character moments, performance reviews, and which characters from Twin Peaks most align with Lord of the Rings characters.
Hannah and Cameron talk about birds, the uncanny, fun disguises, surprise tonal shifts, and the greatness of Audrey Horne.
Hannah and Cameron talk about Noir tropes, transactional relationships, the uncanny valley, the log lady's mystique, and the best sequence of the show so far.
Hannah and Cameron talk about Nicolas Cage, surrealism, shoeleather, the audacity of Audrey Horne, and the first "mid" episode of Twin Peaks.
Hannah and Cameron talk about the difference between character development and plot, the incredible speed of this season's story, Dale Cooper's food fixations, and one very explosive funeral.
Hannah and Cameron talk about episode 2 of Twin Peaks, where Audrey's theme song is available on a jukebox, Leland learns to dance, and we get an invitation to love.
Hannah and Cameron discuss 'Traces to Nowhere,' the first proper episode of Twin Peaks. They talk famous lines, fish-flavored coffee, the satisfying frustrations of a good mystery, and the eternal hotness of Special Agent Dale Cooper.
Hannah and Cameron dig into the densely woven pilot episode of Twin Peaks, talk first reactions, favorite characters, surrealism, and the impeccable hotness of Special Agent Dale Cooper.
Join Hannah and Cameron as they start a new season of the podcast, a projected 50(!) episode miniseries.
Cameron and Nyleen have known each other for six years, and in that time Nyleen has traveled the world and gotten perspective on the things that matter. Today, she and Cameron sit down with some coffee to talk life, music, philosophy, and where we're all headed.
Brianna is one of those "the smartest person I know" people, and host Cameron Cook is just trying to keep up.
Cameron and Casey met in the eighth grade (she is the Casey of this podcast's first episode) and quickly became close friends. Throughout high school, they each dealt with the oncoming symptoms of mental illness in separate ways.
Sierra was recently diagnosed with ADHD and began taking medication to aid with her symptoms. Today, we talk about what it's like to manage ADHD, begin new medications, and start to realize what aspects of yourself can change when adopting a new medication. We also discuss the odd jobs we take in adolescence, teaching, and more.
Sydney moved to New York City to attend John Jay College of Criminal Justice two years ago. Today, she and Cameron discuss her experiences in New York, having to leave the city during the COVID pandemic, and how social media has tarnished living in the moment.
Jesse Breazeale is an actor, improv comedian, magician, singer...you name it. Today, host Cameron Cook sits down with Jesse to talk about the compulsion of comedy and what makes live theater so special. Jesse and Cameron also play a round of an improv game.
Jayden Schading tells her story of childhood trauma and betrayal in this episode. Jayden's story is powerful not only because of what she experienced, but because of the resiliency and courage with which she tells it.
CW: Abuse (non-graphic depiction) inflicted upon a child
Gage is an intelligent, kind, curious person who spends a lot of his time coding and programming games or playing games. Host Cameron Cook talks to Gage about his sense of humor, how computer games work, his time in High School, and what he's been doing since.
Justin Lowman is an English teacher, a collector of Mid-Century antiques, a foster father, and a friend. In this episode, Cameron and Justin talk about topics ranging from German philosophers to James Spader's unusual '90s output.
Scott Thomason is a local Engineer, photographer, and pilot. He's trying to figure out the craziness of this world and learn as much as possible, and then annoy others around him with unsolicited information. Definitely a proud nerd and father. You can follow him on instagram at @scott.thomason.photo
Abbey Runion is an artist who has dabbled in numerous mediums over the years, and host Cameron Cook talks to them in this episode about that journey of self-discovery. They also discuss mental illness, moving away from home, loneliness, emotional honesty, and which Avenger is the most attractive.
Text HOME to 741741 to connect with a Crisis Counselor CW: Self-harm, depression
Host Cameron Cook met David Mruz in the creative writing program at their college, and ever since the two have developed a friendship based around writing, movies, graphic novels, video games, history, philosophy, and anything else they are curious to learn more about. Today they discuss the books they are writing, developing plot and characters for an audience, Japanese horror, and how to deal with creative roadblocks. Look for Mruz's novel Skyscape, coming out Fall 2020.
Host Cameron Cook and guest MJ Slide go way back as filmmaking collaborators. MJ is an infinitely creative, gracious, and interesting person, and the conversation in this episode touches upon such seemingly disparate topics as Science Fiction, Race in America, Public Libraries, Filmmaking, Mental Illness, and Emotional Labor. You can find more from MJ on instagram @MJ_Slide and online at www.thisismjslide.com.
Anna Duren is an artist, an academic, an activist, a dog trainer, and one of the smartest people host Cameron Cook has ever met. In this interview, the two sit down to discuss a high school graduation during COVID-19, living with Type 1 Diabetes, social anxiety, and more.
Cameron and Justin were best friends throughout high school, and by the end of junior year, they barely spoke. At thirty, they speak for the first time in years about High School, why the friendship may have stalled, working during COVID-19, marriage, and more.
Host Cameron Cook tells a story about waking up early in the winter of his freshman year in college.
Hannah and Cameron come up with their dream class reading lists.
Hannah's Syllabus:
Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates
Native Guard by Natasha Trethewey
Homegoing by Yaa Gyasi
There There by Tommy Orange
Alambrista! by Robert Young
A Place for Us by Fatima Farheen Mirza
Cameron's Syllabus:
The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka
Everything That Rises Must Converge by Flannery O'Connor
Opening Night by John Cassavetes
The World According to Garp by John Irving
Mulholland Drive by David Lynch
Hamlet by William Shakespeare
All that Jazz by Bob Fosse
The White Ribbon by Michael Haneke
Books mentioned in this episode:
Ulysses and Finnegan's Wake by James Joyce
The Sound and the Fury and Absalom! Absalom! by William Faulkner
The Nix by Nathan Hill
The Vegetarian by Han Kang
House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeline L'engle
Moby-Dick by Herman Melville
Swann's Way by Marcel Proust
Any Man by Amber Tamblyn
Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf
On the Road by Jack Kerouac
"The Hollow Men" by TS Eliot
Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte
"The Metamorphosis" and The Trial and Amerika by Franz Kafka
City of Glass by Paul Auster
Mulholland Drive by David Lynch (Film)
Marriage
Hannah:
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
Fates and Furies by Lauren Groff
The Before Trilogy by Richard Linklater
Cameron:
Mister Peanut by Adam Ross
Certified Copy by Abbas Kiarostami
Revolutionary Road by Richard Yates
Fatherhood
Hannah:
News of the World by Paulette Jiles
The Road by Cormac McCarthy
Paris, Texas by Wim Wenders
Cameron:
Killing and Dying by Adrian Tomine
Real Life by Donald Ray Pollock
Synecdoche, New York by Charlie Kaufman
Coming of Age
Hannah:
The Mothers by Brit Bennett
The Sun is Also a Star by Nicola Yoon
Lady Bird by Greta Gerwig
Cameron:
Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth by Chris Ware
The Suburbs by Arcade Fire
The Kid's Guide to Divorce by Lorrie Moore
Feminist
Hannah:
Gather the Daughters by Jennie Melamed
The Power by Naomi Alderman
Mad Max: Fury Road by George Miller
Cameron:
The Vegetarian by Han Kang
Have One On Me by Joanna Newsom
Certain Women by Kelly Reichardt
Madness
Hannah:
Snow Child by Eowyn Ivey
The Good People by Hannah Kent
Take Shelter by Jeff Nichols
Cameron:
House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski
The Trial by Franz Kafka
Inland Empire by David Lynch
Cameron's Books:
The Submission by Amy Waldmen < The Namesake by Jhumpa Lahiri
My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She's Sorry by Fredrick Backman < Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close by Jonathan Safran Foer
Education by John Kankiewicz < City of Glass by Paul Auster/Paul Karesik
An American Tragedy by Theodore Dreiser < McTeague by Frank Norris
I'm Thinking of Ending Things by Iian Reid/You Should Have Left by Daniel Kehlman < House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski
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Hannah's Books:
Mysteries (written by Gillian Flynn): Gone Girl, Sharp Objects, Dark Places > Every other mystery Hannah has read (Particularly by Tana French, Ruth Ware, and Paula Hawkins)
The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead < Exit West by Mohsin Hamid
Dark Matter by Blake Crouch < Shades of Magic Trilogy by V.E. Schwab
The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz < The Mothers by Brit Bennett/My Favorite Thing is Monsters by Emeril Ferris
The Nightingale by Kristin Hannah < Code Name Verity by Elizabeth Wein
Hosts Hannah and Cameron talk about their difficult relationships with "Classic" literature
Host Cameron Cook tells a story about the bad teachers he's had over the years, and how he tries to avoid being one himself.
Cameron tells a story about his first day at school, his first best friend, and summer camp
Host Cameron Cook tells a story about his experiences as a student teacher at an "at-risk" high school, and about the student who changed his life.
Hannah and Cameron talk about books they've read recently, and then they play "I Think I Know This"--Titanic Edition
Hannah and Cameron talk about books they read recently and they play the game "I Think I Know This"--Forrest Gump.