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Interdisciplinary is Healwell's health care podcast about all the places and perspectives that lift us up. We say what other people aren't willing to say and we always say the quiet parts loud. You’ll always learn something. You’ll always laugh and you’ll come away better informed and with real things you can do in your own community and practice to create a more compassionate and collaborative system of care for all humans.
Corey and Rebecca sit down with Cynthia Price to get all interoceptive and stuff.
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About Our Guest:
Cynthia is a Research Professor at the University of Washington, her clinical and research expertise is in the development of body awareness to improve health and well-being. Research studies have focused on the study of MABT for multiple health conditions including Substance Dependency, Pain, PTSD, and HIV (see publications page). Interested in the processes involved in learning mindful body awareness, Cynthia studies qualitative aspects and underlying mechanisms of the MABT approach. She is a co-author of two scales to measure interoceptive awareness: the Scale of Body Connection (SBC) and the Multidimensional Assessment of Interoceptive Awareness (MAIA). Committed to increasing health care access to underserved populations, Cynthia works with local and international programs to provide and improve complementary and integrative health care through her research, teaching, and service.
"Life is a sexually transmitted condition with a 100% mortality rate." Hear Cindy Spence drop wisdom like this on Corey and Cal in this week's episode.
And check out Cindy's book here: https://us.singingdragon.com/products/palliative-touch-massage-for-people-at-the-end-of-life
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About Our Guest
Cindy Spence has been a massage therapist since 1999, when her father-in-law’s dying wish for gentle touch inspired her to attend massage school. She has worked extensively with hospice patients in both home and inpatient environments. Her mission is to bring the gift of massage to the bedside for as many people as possible.
This week we are re-running one of Cal's favorites from January, 2022. This conversation with Jenn Brandel covers crisis planning, metaphors, and how we support each other in hard times.
Find Jenn's books (including a free downloadable PDF of My Crisis Plan) here: https://jennbrandel.com/publications.html
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About Our Guest:
Jenn Brandel is a licensed clinical social worker in Boston with over twenty years of experience working as a psychotherapist, trainer, supervisor and consultant. Her work centers around the use of mindfulness and humor to promote compassionate practices, healing and connection. She has been recognized as a leader in her field - making numerous media appearances and speaking at conferences and professional venues throughout New England. She is the author of My Crisis Plan: What I Need to Get Through the Darkness and When Rabbits Spill Their Tea: Metaphors to Guide Us Through Difficult Times.
It's a new season! This one is a shiny collection of hodge-podge stuff. We start off with Healwell's Education Department (aka, Corey and Rebecca) talking about education stuff. There will be opinions.
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It's another special pick from Laura Bryant-Earner, Healwell's Service Director. The Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E. Dupont-Versteegden, Ph.D. to the podcast. Esther's presentation at IMTRC blew everyone away, and we are delighted to have her on the podcast to talk more about about her research into muscular atrophy, how researchers really spend their time, and what all this data means for massage therapists. In this episode, the Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E. Dupont-Versteegden, Ph.D. to the podcast. Esther's presentation at IMTRC blew everyone away, and we are delighted to have her on the podcast to talk more about about her research into muscular atrophy, how researchers really spend their time, and what all this data means for massage therapists.
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About Our Guest:
Dr. Dupont graduated from State University Limburg at Maastricht, the Netherlands, with a Bachelor in Science degree in Movement Sciences. In 1995 she received a Doctor of Philosophy degree in Physiology from the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, Texas.
In 1999 she became Assistant Professor of Geriatrics at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences and in 2006 she accepted a position as Associate Professor in the College of Health Sciences Department of Physical Therapy at the University of Kentucky. In 2015 Dr. Dupont-Versteegden was promoted to full professor and in 2016 she accepted the position of Director of the Rehabilitation Sciences Doctoral Program.
For links to some of the papers mentioned in the episode, please visit: https://www.healwell.org/s7e8-the-research-rat-race
While we are working on Season 12, we're bringing you some of the Healwell Brain Trust's favorite episodes. Here's Service Director, Laura Bryant-Earner's pick: a conversation with Elder Angela Overton. (Originally aired February, 2021)
Elder Overton will be the keynote speaker at our October symposium: Ending Inequities in End of Life Care. Find out more here: https://www.healwell.org/ending-inequities-in-end-of-life-care
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This is the first episode of THE RUB, a podcast about massage therapy. Join Corey, co-host of Interdisciplinary, in examining and bringing context to the world of massage beyond the table. Any topic is up for grabs: history, philosophy, development, and all the other shiny things that distract Corey daily.
This episode explores what it is like to be a hospital-based massage therapist, and what it takes to start hospital-based programs.
The Rub is a produced show, written and recorded by Corey, with input from the Healwell Braintrust.
Corey would love to hear from you about this episode, what topics you want to hear about in the future, what you had for lunch today, and anything else you'd like to share. Please email podcast@healwell.org with your questions and comments.
Music: DuDa by Ian Post (edited)
Corey, Cal, and Rebecca sit down and talk about what we learned in Season 11. It was a packed season, full of rich information, and this conversation is only part of an ongoing discussion that we're sure will flow into next season as well.
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It's our last guest of Season 11, and this is a conversation you don't want to miss. Allissa Haines talks with Corey and Cal about what it really takes to build a massage career, and how work can turn into flow.
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About Our Guest:
Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner, and columnist for ABMP’s Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.
Cal and Corey have a rollicking conversation with experts in the field of Physical Therapy, in which we all learn that our challenges are shared, and we have much to learn from each other.
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About Our Guests:
Lisa Shoaf
Dr. Shoaf has been a licensed physical therapist (PT) for 42 years initially completing her entry-level BS PT degree at Virginia Commonwealth University (VCU) in 1981, and then her transitional DPT degree there in 2009. She also holds a Master of Science Degree in exercise science from James Madison University (1990) and a PhD in Education from VCU (2002). She has been an active member of the American Physical Therapy Association (APTA) and APTA Virginia throughout her PT career. She has held various leadership positions in both organizations including Chief Delegate and Chapter President for Virginia. She has been legislatively active at the state and national level on issues related to PT and healthcare. She also served on the PT Licensing Board for Virginia for 6 years. Dr. Shoaf has practiced in acute care, home health, and outpatient settings as a PT, but most of her professional career has been in academia as a physical therapy educator. She was the Director of Clinical Education for 20 years in the PT program at VCU in Richmond, VA. She joined Mary Baldwin University in Staunton, VA in 2012 to develop a new PT program and assist in launching the new Murphy Deming College of Health Sciences (MDCHS). She served as the Program Director for the PT program from 2012 - 2020. From 2018 to 2020 she also served as the Director of the School of Health and Human Performance with oversight of the PT, OT, Physician Assistant programs at the graduate level and undergraduate programs in health science and exercise science. Dr. Shoaf completed her academic career as the Vice President and Dean of the MDCHS from 2021- spring of 2023 until her retirement from academia.
Tony Grillo
Dr. Tony Grillo, PT, DPT, OCS, CIMT, FAAOMPT is a Physical Therapist living and practicing in Williamsburg, VA Dr. Grillo has been practicing outpatient orthopedic Physical Therapy for over 20 years and has also done PRN work in acute care, SNF, and home health settings. Additionally, he has taught continuing education on spinal manipulation and serves as an adjunct professor with the Arcadia University Residency Program. Dr. Grillo has been a lifelong member and supporter of the American Physical Therapy Association (APTA) and Virginia Physical Therapy Association (VPTA). He is currently the President of the VPTA and has served the previous 4 years as both local representative and State Chair of the Ethics Committee. In his spare time he enjoys fishing, barbequeing, and spending time with his wife Monica, three children Ben, Lily,& Alex, and dog Hamilton.
Corey and Cal talk with sociologist Marisa Allison about gender in massage therapy. What is a "feminized" profession, and what does it mean for the growth and opportunities available in that profession? And how does all this connect to sustainability?
Job Queues, Gender Queues (research Dr. Allison mentioned in the episode): https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/job-queues-gender-queues-explaining-women-s-inroads-into-male-occupations-9780877227441
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About Our Guest:
Dr. Marisa Allison, Ph.D. is a Public Sociologist and Adjunct Faculty Member in the Department of Sociology at George Mason University. Marisa’s research investigates gender and inequality in higher education and within feminizing and female dominated fields. Marisa has been involved in the academic labor movement in the U.S. for over a decade, working with unions and others organizing to better labor conditions on college and university campuses. Most recently she has wrapped up a semester teaching courses on gender and society and contemporary gender relations.
Cal and Corey continue talking about massage career sustainability with Healwell Community Member Matt Smith. If you came to massage after a different career ( or several), if you had to figure out how to maintain your career during and after the pandemic, or if you just really like lemurs -- you'll love this episode.
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About Our Guest:
Matt Smith is a Certified Massage Therapist, living in Oakland, CA. His massage training started at the National Holistic Institute, Emeryville campus. After completing the 800-hr core program, he delved straight into the 450-hr advanced neuromuscular/myofascial trigger point therapy program the school offers. As interested as Matt is in learning about technique and musculoskeletal physiology, he is just as motivated to learn how best to form therapeutic relationships with all potential clients.
Catherine Ryan is back!!! Our favorite Canadian former co-host, fascia nerd, and research-positive massage therapist joins us to talk about bringing research into practice. *Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research is February 25-25, 2023. Join us for some learning from the comfort of your home. Grab your Early Bird price now: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023*If you want to learn even more from Cathy (and really, who wouldn't?) Check out her IN PERSON scar class here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/scar-class-2023****About Our Guest:Catherine Ryan RMT: Cath is a nature lover with a penchant for hugging trees and kissing dogs – with their consent of course. She makes a living moving her hands around, primarily in the form of providing massage therapy, writing about massage therapy and while teaching massage therapy related content. Kindness is her favourite color.
Who runs the world? Librarians. Particularly pun-loving, loud librarians like this week's guest, Taylor Xiao. Corey and Cal enter the Matrix with Taylor to talk about the emotional labor-intense role of an academic librarian, the difference between information and knowledge, and how information is like Play-Doh.
Request CEs for this episode here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/interdisciplinary-s9-e5
Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, Healwell's online symposium is happening in February! Grab your spot here: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023
Framework for Information Literacy for Higher Education: https://www.ala.org/acrl/standards/ilframework
About Our Guest: Taylor Xiao is Instruction & Assessment Librarian at the Mary & John Gray Library of Lamar University
Cal and Corey sit down with Adrienne Asta, Board President of the Massage Therapy Foundation, fierce advocate for massage therapists, and all around wonderful human. After an unprecedented three-pun opening, they talk about what's next for MTF and how this organization is going to serve and support you in the coming months.
Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research is February 25-26, 2023. Sign up now to lock in your early bird rate: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023
Find out more about the Massage Therapy Foundation, get involved, and donate at https://massagetherapyfoundation.org
You can get CEs through Continuing Education Institute of Illinois for $25. Follow this link to request your CE for this episode: https://online.healwell.org/courses/interdisciplinary-s9-e4
About Our Guest: Adrienne F. Asta has been practicing massage since 2001 and holds certifications in neuromuscular therapy and prenatal massage. Her clients range from permanently disabled to Big Ten collegiate athletes, all of whom teach her something new every session. She is privileged to serve as the chairperson for the Community Service Grants Proposal Review Committee for the Foundation. Additionally, Adrienne has volunteered with the American Massage Therapy Association (AMTA) on a local and national level for well over a decade. She has been deeply involved in the education arm of the massage industry including positions of instructor, Director of Education, and National Program Director among others and is a member of the Alliance for Massage Therapy Education. She has developed ancillary materials for textbooks widely used in massage therapy programs and has trained all levels of practicing massage therapists and educators. It is a joy for her to volunteer alongside such an inspiring and dedicated group of people. Adrienne is proud to donate 1% of the proceeds of her practice to this honorable organization. Contact Adrienne (No really! She wants to hear from you!) at adrienne@yourpartnerinhealing.com or president@massagetherapyfoundation.org
Corey and Cal talk with Whitney Lowe about the gigantic pot of gold that is information, and the most important skill that is also the most difficult to teach. (Hint: It's clinical reasoning.)
Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, Healwell's virtual symposium is in February 2023! Reserve your spot now: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023
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About Our Guest: Whitney Lowe, who coined the phrase orthopedic massage, is a recognized authority on pain and injury treatment with massage therapy. In 2015 he was presented the 2015 Performance Health / Massage Therapy Foundation Humanitarian Award by the American Massage Therapy Association (AMTA), and was the recipient of the ONE Concept Educator of the Year Award for 2013. Lowe began his research into the complexity of chronic pain conditions and injuries over two decades ago. He is currently the education section editor for the International Journal of Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork, a member of the editorial advisory board of the Journal of Bodywork & Movement Therapies, and has been a regular featured author in publications such as Massage & Bodywork, Massage Magazine, Massage Today and the Journal of Soft-Tissue Manipulation. He is the author of the books, Orthopedic Assessment in Massage Therapy and Orthopedic Massage: Theory and Technique, which are used in training programs and schools nationally and internationally.
Corey and Cal get into the weeds with Niki Munk and a conversation about the state of massage research -- including reflections on the high number of massage therapists who also have a theater degree.
CEUs are available for this episode! Take the quiz and request your certificate here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/interdisciplinary-s9-e2
Learn more about (and register for) Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, Healwell's virtual symposium, here: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023
Alan Alda Center for Communicating Science: https://aldacenter.org
About Our Guest: Niki Munk, Ph.D., LMT, is an assistant professor in the Department of Health Sciences at Indiana University. Munk is a clinically trained and licensed massage therapist and completed her doctoral training in gerontology at the University of Kentucky. Munk is one of 13 international Fellows in the International Complementary Medicine Research Leadership Program at University Technology Sydney (UTS): Australian Research Centre in Complementary and Integrative Medicine (ARCCIM). In addition, Munk is a Massage Therapy Foundation Trustee and co-investigator on the VA funded TOMCATT study, which examines care-ally assisted and therapist provided massage for Veterans with chronic neck pain. Prior to beginning her appointment as faculty at the School of Health & Human Sciences, Munk worked in the Department of Family and Community Medicine at the University of Kentucky on the KYPROS study which examined real-world massage therapy for primary care patients with chronic low back pain. Before her research career, Munk was the associate then program director for the Lexington Healing Arts Academy in Lexington, Kentucky and president of In Touch Inc. which provided massage therapy for older adults in their homes, care centers, or in professional therapeutic space.
Welcome to Season 9! This season, Corey Rivera will take us on a journey through the wild world of information and research literacy. What do we know? How do we know it? What do we do with information? How does all of this relate to how we are with other humans? We have a whole season to talk about it, starting with the Healwell Brain Trust taking on left-handed cats, prisms, state songs, and alligators.
You can get CEs for listening! Follow this link for this episode's CE purchase link and quiz: https://online.healwell.org/courses/interdisciplinary-s9-e1-healwell-staff
Within Reach: The Quest for Information and Research, a two-day virtual symposium for massage therapists, happens in February 2023. Find out more here: https://www.healwell.org/literacy2023
The Oatmeal cartoon about The Backfire Effect: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe
Framework for Information Literacy for Higher Education: https://www.ala.org/acrl/standards/ilframework
The Healwell Brain Trust is assembled to look back on the Season of the Switch. What have we learned? What have we unlearned? Put on your "It Depends" and grab a seat as we talk through this season, consider the question of honesty, and speculate on which Goonies character we would be.
Paul Laurence Dunbar's "We Wear the Mask": https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44203/we-wear-the-mask
80s sitcom Kate & Allie, that episode: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0618709/
Which Goonies character are you? https://www.buzzfeed.com/shylawatson/goonies-character-personality-quiz
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Part 2 of our conversation with Frances Reed digs into questions around generations and growth edges, being seen and the possible benefits of needing to fight for your identity. Plus, baby otters and Frances' Nana.
Check out Frances' website for their classes and to pre-order their book on binding health and pain management: https://francesreed.com/
Or:
HealthyBinding.com
Frances is also on social media!
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/frances.reed.33
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frances-reed-07468170
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About Our Guest:
Frances Reed, LMT (they/them) is passionate about making holistic therapies safe for transgender clients by teaching therapists the interpersonal and technical skills to meet the unique needs of transgender clients. They’ve been a licensed massage therapist since 2011, using a structural integration framework to support people at all stages of gender transition. Based on over a decade of work with transmasculine clients, Frances has developed a set of techniques for assessing and treating chronic pain and discomfort in people who bind their chest as well as protocols for pre- and post- top-surgery care. They are the author of a forthcoming book on binding health and pain management, which is the first of its kind.
Frances teaches practitioners cultural competency skills that they need to provide affirming care to transgender clients. Since the January 2022 closing of their trans- and queer-centered wellness center, Frances is in private practice doing transition-related bodywork in Washington, DC. Frances is a graduate of Smith College and the Potomac Massage Training Institute and founder of Freed Bodyworks Wellness Center and HealthyBinding.com.
We had such a great conversation with Frances Reed that we made it into 2 episodes! In this first part of our conversation with Frances, we talk about code switching as a queer, trans, bodyworker, and educator. We delve into what happens in your body when you are actively unseen, and the process of tailoring your presentation for folks who might not be ready to witness your full identity.
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About Our Guest: Frances Reed is an awesome human.
Jamil Rivers returns to the podcast to talk about code switching in health care, ongoing disparities that are causing actual harm, and her work in connecting people to the standard of care in cancer care.
Find Jamil's organization here: www.thechrysalisinitiative.org www.bcnavi.com
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About Our Guest:
Jamil is Board President of METAvivor Research and Support, Inc. She is a Young Advocate Alum, Board Member of Living Beyond Breast Cancer and Advisory Chair of the Knowledge is Power: Understanding Black Breast Cancer series. She is a policy science and health equity advocate and metastatic advisory committee member with Susan G. Komen.
In addition, she is a member and patient advisor of the Metastatic Breast Cancer Alliance. Jamil is also a Project LEAD graduate and proposal reviewer for the Breast Cancer Research program with the Department of Defense.
Jamil also testified to the FDA in order to connect many women with resources for screenings, treatment, and support. She has been featured in People Magazine, the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Philadelphia Tribune, national campaigns for Anthropologie, Novartis, Pfizer and Cancer and Careers, as well as on CBS News and Good Morning America.
Matthew F. Hudson, Ph.D., M.P.H., joins us on the podcast to talk about code switching in a professional setting, the challenge of moving from the West Coast to the East Coast to the Southeast, and how all of this can affect personal and community health.
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About Our Guest: Dr. Matthew F. Hudson is the Director of Cancer Care Delivery Research (CCDR) at Prisma Health (Greenville, South Carolina). Dr. Hudson conducts and oversees research on interventions mediating patient, clinician, and organizational factors influencing cancer care outcomes and patient well-being. Hudson is the Vice Chair of a national community oncology research base’s CCDR Committee (NRG Oncology). He also serves Prisma Health as a Health Sciences Center Research Director facilitating embedded researchers’ induction and production within the health care environment. Hudson holds a faculty appointment at the University of South Carolina’s Arnold School of Public Health, where he previously taught an introductory course in comparative effectiveness research. He also holds faculty appointments at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine Greenville, Clemson University School of Nursing, Clemson University School of Health Research, and Clemson University’s Department of Public Health Sciences. Hudson is also a member of the Patient Centered Outcomes Research Institute’s (PCORI) Patient Engagement Advisory Panel.
Chase Anderson's keynote was one of the highlights of our Just Care conference. We are delighted to welcome Chase back to talk about finding your safe place, being yourself, and making it possible for everyone around us to be themselves too.
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About Our Guest: Dr. Chase T. M. Anderson (but just call him Chase!) is currently a child and adolescent psychiatrist at University of California at San Francisco and graduated from adult psychiatry residency at The Massachusetts General Hospital and McLean Hospital and child and adolescent psychiatry fellowship at UCSF. He completed his undergraduate education in Chemistry at The Massachusetts Institute of Technology and his master's in Biological Engineering at MIT as well, and is a graduate of The Northwestern Feinberg School of Medicine.
His writing has appeared in Newsweek, WBUR/NPR, Scientific American, STAT News, The New England Journal of Medicine, and other news and journal outlets. In his free time, he enjoys going for long walks, listening to K-pop, reading fantasy books, playing soccer, writing, planning dinners with friends, and dreaming of how we can better the world together.
Website: ChaseTMAnderson.com Twitter: @ChaseTMAnderson Instagram: @AresTMusesDreamCooper
We are pleased to welcome Harry Pickens to today's episode. Harry shares his story of code switching in medical care, the links between trauma and code switching, and a clear vision of what our future could be like -- if we choose it.
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About Our Guest: Harry Pickens is an award-winning musician, educator, author, composer, contemplative performing artist and meditation guide who helps people awaken to their true nature as Love. He is a recipient of the Kentucky Governor's Award in The Arts and is featured in an Emmy-nominated Kentucky Educational Television documentary, Harry Pickens And The Garden Of Music. Harry is currently engaged in research exploring applications of music and sound to support emotional healing and spiritual transformation.
In this episode, the Healwell Brain Trust opens up their hearts for an uncomfortable, loving, and honest conversation about code switching, in-groups and out-groups, and the question of lying versus adaptation.
Featuring (in order of appearance:) Cal Cates Corey Rivera Kerry Jordan Rebecca Sturgeon Laura Bryant-Earner
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Quiet by Susan Cain: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8520610-quiet
"Gender is Complicated for All of Us," Ezra Klein Show: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-kathryn-bond-stockton.html
We are pleased to welcome Gabriela DeAnda, Healwell Community member and all around awesome human. Gabriela talks to us about intersectionality, and her personal experiences adapting and relating.
Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring this season of Interdisciplinary! abmp.com
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About Our Guest: Gabriela DeAnda is a hospice nurse in the DC/MD/VA area. She is the youngest of seven children born to Mexican immigrant parents in Southern California during the 1960s. She learned of her intersectionality while assimilating to East coast culture in the 1990s.
Welcome to Season 8 of Interdisciplinary! This season, we are exploring code switching. What is it? Why do we do it? When do we do it? And -- how does it affect our ability to care for each other?
Big love to our sponsor for Season 8, ABMP! Check them out at abmp.com
NPR's Code Switch podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/1112190608
What even is "Interdisciplinary," the podcast? The Healwell team is here to tell you all about it.
It's true -- there is a place on the internet where folks are fun, kind, respectful, and honest. It's not a fairy tale, it's the Healwell Community, and we hope you will join us there!
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Healwell turns 12 this year -- so let's get together and celebrate! Hear all about Healwell's birthday party. You are invited!
Find out more at https://www.healwell.org/upcoming-events
We miss you in between seasons, so we're here for a short update on what's going on at Healwell. Today we are talking about the Healthcare and Intimacy Symposium (healwell.org/upcoming-events), happening September 24th.
It's the Season 7 wrap up! And because we're Healwell, it's also an exploration of the state of the world and the work that needs to be done in it.
Thank you for being here with us! We'll be off for a couple of weeks planning our next season.
Keep in touch with us in the Healwell Community (community.healwell.org) or by sending an email to podcast@healwell.org
Cal's blog post is at healwell.org/blog
Healwell's virtual Health Care and Intimacy Symposium is September 24! Register now to join some of the most important conversations around: https://give.healwell.org/event/healthcare-and-intimacy-virtual-symposium/e409248
This is your exclusive inside look at what happens in Healwell's Hospital Based Massage Therapy Stewardship. You will hear from the instructors and students of our class at University of Kentucky hospital in Lexington, KY.
NOTE: Some sections of this episode were recorded in the hospital, so the sound is inconsistent in parts. We thank you for your patience and apologize for the inconvenience.
Deep bows of gratitude to the students in our first Lexington, KY cohort, and everyone who made this class possible.
Healwell's next Pediatric Massage in the Clinical setting will be in Lexington, KY in September, 2022: https://online.healwell.org/courses/pediatric-KY2022
Healwell's next Hospital based Massage therapy Stewardship is in Washington, DC in November 2022: https://online.healwell.org/courses/stewardship-dc2022
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Aw, rats! The Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E. Dupont-Versteegden, Ph.D. to the podcast. Esther's presentation at IMTRC blew everyone away, and we are delighted to have her on the podcast to talk more about about her research into muscular atrophy, how researchers really spend their time, and what all this data means for massage therapists.
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About Our Guest: Dr. Dupont graduated from State University Limburg at Maastricht, the Netherlands, with a Bachelor in Science degree in Movement Sciences. In 1995 she received a Doctor of Philosophy degree in Physiology from the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, Texas. In 1999 she became Assistant Professor of Geriatrics at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences and in 2006 she accepted a position as Associate Professor in the College of Health Sciences Department of Physical Therapy at the University of Kentucky. In 2015 Dr. Dupont-Versteegden was promoted to full professor and in 2016 she accepted the position of Director of the Rehabilitation Sciences Doctoral Program.
Here are some links to research papers mentioned in the podcast. For a more extensive list, please email us at podcast@healwell.org: Hettinger, Z.R., Hamagata, K., Confides, A.L., Lawrence, M.M., Miller, B.F., Butterfield, T.A., Dupont-Versteegden, E.E. Age-related susceptibility to muscle damage following mechanotherapy in rats recovering from disuse atrophy. Journals Gerontology Series Biological Sciences, 76: 2132-2140, 2021 DOI: 10.1093/gerona/glab186
Hettinger, Z.R., Wen, Y., Peck, B.D., Hamagata, K., Confides, A.L., Van Pelt, D.W., Lawrence, M.M., Harrison, D.A., Miller, B.F., Butterfield, T.A., Dupont-Versteegden, E.E. Mechanotherapy promotes extracellular matrix remodeling in aged rat muscle recovering from disuse by reprogramming intercellular communication. FUNCTION, 2022, 3(3): zqac0152. PMCID: PMC9009398 https://academic.oup.com/function/advance-article/doi/10.1093/function/zqac015/6553824
Van Pelt, D.W., Lawrence, M.M., Miller, B.F., Butterfield, T.A. and Dupont-Versteegden, E.E. Massage as a mechanotherapy for skeletal muscle. Exercise and Sports Sciences Reviews, 49: 107-114, 2021. doi: 10.1249/JES.0000000000000244.
It's the "what I did on my summer vacation" episode. Cal Cates and Kerry Jordan talk with Corey Rivera about their recent presentation at the Mountain Search and Rescue conference in Estes Park, Colorado.
Burnout Study: https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Financial-Sustainability/Backcountry-Search-and-Rescue-Study.pdf
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The Education Department (Rebecca and Corey) take on a question from a podcast listener about how to keep learning after massage school. There's some perspective, some Piaget, and very little predictability.
The budgeting software with the cute little elephant: https://www.youneedabudget.com/
Coursera, lots of online courses, many of them free: https://www.coursera.org/
Other places we like to learn: Maintenance Phase podcast: https://www.maintenancephase.com/ The Rest Room podcast: http://natashalipman.com/podcast-home/ Healwell's Healthcare and Intimacy Symposium: https://give.healwell.org/event/healthcare-and-intimacy-virtual-symposium/e409248
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We are so excited to talk to Nellie Galindo, disability advocate, sexual health educator, and speaker at Healwell's September Symposium! We talk about consent, communication, care, and compassion.
Healwell's Healthcare and Intimacy Symposium is September 24. Register here: https://give.healwell.org/event/healthcare-and-intimacy-virtual-symposium/e409248
Resources from Nellie: Accessible Sexual Health, LLC: https://www.accessiblesexualhealth.com Advocates for Youth: https://www.advocatesforyouth.org/ Scarleteen: https://www.scarleteen.com/ Virginia League for Planned Parenthood, Resources for People with Disabilities: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-virginia-league/education-and-training/resources/people-disabilities
About Our Guest: Nellie Galindo lives in North Carolina with her husband and two children. She has been providing sexual health training in one way, shape, or form since 2007. She has created and conducted trainings on a range of topics, including preventing abuse and exploitation of disabled individuals, providing accurate and comprehensive sexual health education to disabled students, and advancing health equity for people with disabilities. Nellie has been living with Generalized Anxiety Disorder since she was 15, and is a fervent mental health advocate.
Cal and Corey talk with Jennifer O'Brien, author of The Hospice Doctor's Widow, about holding the truths that come along with a life-changing diagnosis, and facing the reality that, sooner or later, we all have to die.
Find The Hospice Doctor's Widow here: https://www.etaliapress.com/new-products/the-hospice-doctors-widow-a-journal
Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org
About Our Guest: Jennifer O’Brien has helped thousands live and love more fully by recognizing that: at the end of life comes death; family caregiving is both the hardest job and the greatest honor most of us will ever face; and grief is abundant love with no place to go. She is the author of The Hospice Doctor’s Widow: A Journal, an art journal filled with beauty, practical insights, humor, and heart. The book has won a Nautilus silver award in the Death & Dying/Grief & Loss category, a Next Gen Indie Book gold for Relationships, an Independent Publishers (IPPY) bronze for Gift, and an International Impact Award for its Design.
For more than 30 years she has been a practice management educator of physicians and served as CEO for two large medical practices. She authored 45 articles and made hundreds of presentations. She holds a bachelor’s degree from Boston University and a master’s degree in organization development from Loyola University –Chicago. She lives in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Cal talks with Kammaleathahh Livingstone, founder of Tip It Forward (tipitforward.org) about trauma-informed care, connecting with the community, and the essential difficulty of being a human.
Take Tip It Forward's Introduction to Trauma Informed Care class here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/intro-to-trauma-informed-care
Learn more about Tip It Forward here: tipitforward.org
About Our Guest:
Kammaleathahh Livingstone is a Licensed Massage Therapist, board certified Structural Integration Practitioner with multiple therapeutic massage and bodywork certifications. With over 15 years of international experience, learning to adapt therapeutic bodywork cross-culturally, she has worked with people from every continent including Palestine, Nepal,Mexico, and people of various socioeconomic statuses.
She is the Founder and Executive Director of Tip It Forward which became a nonprofit in 2019.Tip It Forward takes a trauma-informed approach to whole health through massage and bodywork approaches, movement therapy, and mindfulness practices designed to support the healing capacity of everyone they touch. Tip It Forward was created by extending the reach of therapeutic touch, one tip at a time in 2014. These gifts powered the beginning of their Mobile Wellness Bus and Holistic Care Kits to individuals that are under-resourced and communities that have been historically neglected.
In her bodywork business, Sustainable Health Choices, founded in 2008, Kammaleathahh specializes in Anatomy Trains Structural Integration, examining the root causes of imbalances through movement, posture and alignment. She has training in Dismantling Racism, Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault, Conflict Resolution and Mediation, Cross-Cultural HumanServices, and a degree in Cultural Anthropology.More personally, she has a keen interest in the ongoing dialogue between Western neuroscience and Tibetan Buddhism in the healing of the mind and body. She has been fortunate to learn from and study Dharma with some of the most respected masters of Tibet and teachers in the West.
Cal Cates, Corey Rivera, and Laura Bryant-Earner went to the International Massage Therapy Research Conference on May 12-13. In this episode, they sit down and talk about the conference, research, and what is hopeful and frustrating about being together in meat space again.
Check out this practice based research network (as mentioned in the episode): massagenet.org
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It's season 7! This preview episode features Rebecca and Kerry talking about all the fun episodes coming up this season.
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Check out the massage dosing study Kerry talked about: https://tinyurl.com/5n6n6y3a
Tip It Forward will be on the podcast later this season. Check out what they do here: tipitforward.org
In the Season 6 finale, we are pleased to welcome Sakinah Irizarry, co-presenter of Challenging Racism in the Massage Industry, and all-around thoughtful individual. We start the conversation with proposed legislation in New York state, roam into questions of harm, responsibility, and the deep stickiness of massage legislation.
Find out more about the proposed legislation here: https://twitter.com/RedCanarySong/status/1497287255551004694
Find out more about Red Canary Song here: https://www.redcanarysong.net
Find Challenging Racism in the Massage Industry here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/challenging-racism
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While we are on our podcast season break, you can support Healwell (and score some sweet deals) at Healwell's silent auction: healwell.org/auction
About Our Guest: Sakinah Irizarry (she/her) has been a licensed massage therapist since 2003. She resides in Saugerties, NY where she also enjoys a thriving private practice. When she’s not working or being a mom, she is a passionate advocate for educational equity and social justice. In her free time she enjoys Star Trek reruns and going camping. #BlackLivesMatter
We are pleased to welcome back Anne Kelemen, one of Healwell's favorite recurring guests. Anne joins Kerry and Rebecca to talk about intimacy and chronic illness.
Check out Anne's latest course, "The Power of Our Words": https://online.healwell.org/courses/power-of-our-words
Read Anne's research about assessing the impact of illness on intimacy and sexuality here: https://tinyurl.com/2p8vu2jv and here: https://tinyurl.com/37rmnvx6
About Our Guest: Anne Kelemen is the Director of Psychosocial/Spiritual Care for the Section of Palliative Care at MedStar Washington Hospital Center in Washington, DC, where she conducts patient care, teaches and participates in a variety of research activities.
Prior to joining the Hospital Center staff, Ms. Kelemen instituted the first palliative care service at MedStar Good Samaritan Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. She also is the founding director of the Palliative Social Work Fellowship Program at the Hospital Center. An Assistant Professor of Medicine at Georgetown University Medical Center, her research interests include the intersection between language and medicine and intimacy and chronic illness. Ms. Kelemen is also Vice-Chair of the Social Work Hospice and Palliative Network (SWHPN).
Kerry, Corey, and Rebecca are talking false assumptions about the human body and how they affect care. And, because it's us, the conversation goes in multiple directions, including: pain, lactic acid, and touch-seeking behaviors. Editor's Note: Many apologies for the background noise on this one. Rebecca was in a remote location with free-ranging children.
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We're going back to school in this episode, and sharing stories of our massage school experiences, and of course bringing it out to the profession in general. And we might even be touching our hair.
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Toxins. Cleanse. Healer. Based on Psychology. Cal Cates, Kerry Jordan, and Corey Rivera explore these and other wellness swear words. What do we mean when we say the things we say?
Did we talk about your favorite wellness swear word? If not, please send us an email at podcast@healwell.org
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Corey, Kerry, and Rebecca talk about mental health in the treatment room. Are we really prepared? What about our colleagues in other health care professions? And -- what is up with the massage room panic buttons?
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In this episode, Cal, Kerry, Corey, and Rebecca talk about how to find and gather the resources you need to be a caring, compassionate, effective practitioner. We get into the issues with health care, massage therapy CEs, and what it even means to be "resourced.)
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Cal Cates and Laura Bryant-Earner talk about the nuances of "elevating the profession." What does this even mean? And what does it have to do with providing the best care for our fellow humans?
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In the final episode of Season 5, where we talk money —we get into the sticky question of volunteerism, the actual cost of doing massage, and why feral cats don’t make good therapy pets.
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For actual good advice about money management, check out our friends at Massage Business Blueprint: https://www.massagebusinessblueprint.com/
It's getting salty at Healwell. We take inspiration from a conversation with Amanda Long about self care and snow days, and get all the way into existential questions about the nature of massage therapy.
This episode features clips from an interview with Amanda. For the full interview, check out our Patreon at patreon.com/interdisciplinary
This week we welcome Jenn Brandel, LICSW to talk about caring for yourself in a crisis, and the power of metaphors to process hard things.
Find Jenn's books (including a free downloadable PDF of My Crisis Plan) here: https://jennbrandel.com/publications.html
For 20% off Jenn's book, When Rabbits Spill Their Tea, email podcast@healwell.org
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About Our Guest: Jenn Brandel is a licensed clinical social worker in Boston with over twenty years of experience working as a psychotherapist, trainer, supervisor and consultant. Her work centers around the use of mindfulness and humor to promote compassionate practices, healing and connection. She has been recognized as a leader in her field - making numerous media appearances and speaking at conferences and professional venues throughout New England. She is the author of My Crisis Plan: What I Need to Get Through the Darkness and When Rabbits Spill Their Tea: Metaphors to Guide Us Through Difficult Times.
We continue our look at leaving the massage profession with the stories of Sheri Bergen, Nancy Keeney-Smith, Justin Magnuson, and Ruth Werner.
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Corey, Kerry and Rebecca sit down for an honest conversation about when it might be time to stop practicing massage. Can you still be a massage therapist, even if you aren't practicing massage? What do you do with the love you have for clients once you no longer see them? And how can we support each other when taking care of ourselves means leaving behind work that we love?
Join us for Part 2 next week, where we features the voices of folks who have left, or have considering leaving, the hands-on practice of massage therapy.
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In this September 2020 conversation, Cal Cates and Cathy Ryan talk with disabled rights advocate, Kelly Mack, about bodies, accessibility, and the very hard, very simple things we can do to welcome more folks in our practices.
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Happy New Year! for this episode, we are re-running one of our favorties: Cal Cates and Cathy Ryan talk with Hilary and Dana of Be Nourished (benourished.org) about bodies, health, and the lens we see through.
Hilary and Dana wrote a book! Check out "Reclaiming Body Trust" here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/675785/reclaiming-body-trust-by-hilary-kinavey-ms-lpc-and-dana-sturtevant-ms-rd/
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The Healwell team talks about the very serious subject of joy and happiness -- what it really means in he context of a meaningful life. Also, there's some funny animal stories.
More goodness is happening on Patreon! The latest bonus episode features more talk about the Japanese anime, Psycho Pass. Find this and the other super secret squirrel extras at: patreon.com/interdisciplinary
This week we have a guest -- and a guest co-host. Kate DeBartolo and Justin Magnuson help with the very large conversation around how to talk about our plans and wishes for ourselves in the event of chronic illness. Go gently into this conversation and emerge with a deeper connection to your full humanity.
The Conversation Project: https://theconversationproject.org/
Check out bonus episodes and get early access to the podcast at our Patreon: patreon.com/interdisciplinary This week's bonus episode answers the question: How is Healwell's leadership like a cartoon?
About Our Guest: Ms. DeBartolo oversees The Conversation Project, IHI’s public engagement initiative to help people share their wishes for care through the end of life. In addition to leading The Conversation Project team and operations, Ms. DeBartolo manages and cultivates relationships with national and state-level organizations that help engage the general public in advance care planning. Since starting in July 2007, she has been involved in the 5 Million Lives Campaign, Improvement Map, Project JOINTS, and many of IHI’s other large-scale initiatives. Prior to joining IHI, Ms. DeBartolo worked as a grant analyst at The California Endowment. She is a graduate of Wellesley College and currently lives in Washington DC with her husband and son.
It's a new season, and a new format for the podcast! This season, we're bringing in more of the Healwell folks to talk compassion, equity, caring for humans, and more. This week, we talk about what it's really like to try to live Healwell's core values in our daily lives.
Infographic of 50 Cognitive Biases: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/50-cognitive-biases-in-the-modern-world/
Patreon is getting revved up this season! Join us now so you won't miss out on the extra shenanigans. The firs episode of Corey's Cartoon Countdown is up now, exclusive for Patreon members: patreon.com/interdisciplinary
Cal talks with Teresa Nguyen about the very human experience of living with a disability, advocating for oneself in a world that is not often aware of your needs, and what every human can do to become more aware of the needs of other humans.
Teresa also appeared on this episode of "Terrible, Thanks for Asking": https://www.ttfa.org/episode/2021/03/16/data-points
And here is an article about navigating a relationship with a disability: https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/551/relationship-tips
About Our Guest: Teresa Nguyen is from Denver, Colorado. She identifies as a Vietnamese-American woman with a disability and her pronouns are "she, her, hers". Teresa received her Master of Public Health from the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus, and her work is focused around health care policies and systems improvement, for vulnerable populations. She has experience in both Federal and State level health program and policy development, and is currently a curriculum developer at the Colorado Office of Employment First, training on the intersection of work and health for people with disabilities. In her free time, Teresa enjoys cooking and traveling with her dog, Mylo!
This week's conversation goes deep -- into compassion, humanity, and our fundamental connection to each other. This conversation with Ladybird Morgan and Marvin Mutch of the Humane Prison Hospice Project will invite you to deep reflection and consideration of the ways in which we separate ourselves from each other.
The Human Prison Hospice Project: https://humaneprisonhospiceproject.org
View of screening of the short film "Prison Terminal" followed by a conversation with Ladybird and Marvin (Dec. 8): https://www.eventbrite.com/e/prison-terminal-the-last-days-of-private-jack-hall-tickets-194701145367
About Our Guests: Ladybird Morgan, RN, MSW, Co-Founder of Humane Prison Hospice Project Ladybird Morgan RN, MSW, BCST Practitioner, is one of the co-founders and the Program Director of Humane Prison Hospice Project. In addition to her 20+ years working in hospice and palliative medicine, she has a wealth of experience dealing with trauma, mental health and the painful repercussions of sexual violence. Ladybird has guided medical practitioners, families and private caregivers, as well as directors of programs and institutions around the world on how to be present to experiences that may be hard to hear or bear witness to. Her role as program director includes training and supervising the Brother’s Keepers Peer Support Crisis Counseling and Compassionate End of Life Program. Ladybird is currently a private palliative care consultant with Mettlehealth -www.mettlehealth.com and co-facilitates discussions about the practical challenges as well as the mystical realms of chronic and terminal illness through Commonweal's Cancer Care Help Program, Healing Circles, and UCSF/MERI Center's Last Acts of Kindness.
Marvin Mutch Marvin Mutch is a formerly incarcerated prison reform activist and co-founder of the Humane Prison Hospice Project. Mr. Mutch served 41 years of an indeterminate 7-year to life sentence for a wrongful conviction suffered in 1975. He was freed in 2016 due wholly to the tireless efforts of Professor Heidi Rummel of the USC Post Conviction Justice Project, Professor Emerita Susan Rutberg from the Golden Gate University Innocence Project, and Attorney Michael Snedeker of Snedeker & Short. After a lifetime of experience advocating for the humane treatment and human rights of his fellow prisoners throughout the California prison system, Marvin is now set to apply his deep understanding towards advancing the human rights of incarcerated people everywhere.
How do the words we use affect the people we serve? What could be problematic about some of the common things we say as care providers? What happens when we listen to our words from a different perspective? Cal and Cathy welcome Anne Kelemen to the podcast to consider the question of language. (This episode originally aired in February, 2021.)
Check out Anne Keleman's course on Healwell's online course portal: https://online.healwell.org/courses/to-chart-or-not-to-chart
Anne Kelemen's articles: Ambiguity in End-of-Life Care Terminology—What Do We Mean by “Comfort Care?” https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2698147 Poor prognostication: hidden meanings in word choices https://spcare.bmj.com/content/7/3/267
About Our Guest: Anne Kelemen is the Director of Psychosocial/Spiritual Care for the Section of Palliative Care at MedStar Washington Hospital Center in Washington, DC, where she conducts patient care, teaches and participates in a variety of research activities. She also serves as an Associate Professor of Medicine at Georgetown University and as Associate Program Director for the MedStar Georgetown Interprofessional Palliative Care Fellowship Program. Prior to joining the Hospital Center staff, Ms. Kelemen instituted the first palliative care service at MedStar Good Samaritan Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. She is board certified in hospice and palliative social work and is a board member for the Social Work Hospice and Palliative Network (SWHPN) where she currently chairs the membership committee.
In this episode, Cal talks with Dr. Rachel Beda, a physician practicing in a concierge setting in Seattle. The conversations touches on equity, gender affirming care, the challenges of building relationship in a primary care practice, and the thorny question of "obesity medicine."
The contest is still on! Don't miss your chance to win the most valuable prices in the universe! Just write a review of the podcast, and if we read it on the show, you win your choice of: an Interdisciplinary mug, an Interdisciplinary t-shirt, a conversation with Cal Cates and Cathy Ryan, or a conversation with the authors of Oncology Massage: An integrative approach to cancer care.
About Our Guest Dr. Rachel Beda is an internal medicine physician in Seattle, where she has provided gender-affirming medical care (including HRT) for over a decade. She is co-owner and medical director of Wise Patient Internal Medicine, a small Direct Primary Care clinic on Capitol Hill.
Cal joins Kerry Jordan and Rebecca Sturgeon for a behind-the-scenes review of Healwell's Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care conference.
Missed coming to the conference live? All the sessions are available -- with closed captioning -- in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org
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Cal and Cathy are on their own this week, talking about all the things that have been on their minds -- like misinformation, disinformation, and the state of the world in the US and Canada. It's a free-for-all of evidence-based fun!
Resources mentioned in this episode: https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2020/coronavirus-antibodies-protect-against-future-infection https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/were-the-covid-19-vaccines-rushed https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/996570855/disinformation-dozen-test-facebooks-twitters-ability-to-curb-vaccine-hoaxes https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/09/10/covidmisinformation091021 https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/the-covid19-vaccine-and-pregnancy-what-you-need-to-know https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-executive-branch-18fb12993f05be13bf760946a6fb89be https://healthdata.gov/Hospital/COVID-19-Reported-Patient-Impact-and-Hospital-Capa/g62h-syeh https://www.apa.org/monitor/2021/03/controlling-misinformation
This week's guest is Debbie LaFond, interdisciplinary team legend. Debbie talks the difference between pediatric and adult care, and what palliative care has to bring for every human.
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About Our Guest: Deborah “Debbie” LaFond, DNP, PPCNP-BC, CPON, CHPPN, FPCN, FAAN In the first 21 years of her career, Debbie worked as a nurse practitioner in pediatric palliative care Children’s National Medical Center before spending another 8 years serving in the role of Director of Clinical Services for the Pediatric Advanced Needs Assessment and Care Team, affectionately known as the PANDA Care Team. In 2020, Debbie joined forces with three other clinicians to found Panda Education Consultants whose mission of this organization is to develop, implement and evaluate interprofessional pediatric and neonatal primary palliative care education and mentorship in clinical practice and on professional resilience. Dr. Lafond also provides consultation on pediatric palliative care program development.
Cal and Cathy welcome Dr. Gayle Dine'Chacon, founder of the Center for Native American Health (CNAH) and former Surgeon General for the Navajo Nation. It's about sovereignty, relationships, and awareness of our connection to each other.
Dr. Dine'Chacon will be one of the speaker at Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, October 9-10. Learn more here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
About Our Guest: Gayle Dine’Chacon, M. D. is an enrolled member of the Navajo Nation. She is a Professor in the Department of Family and Community Medicine at the University of New Mexico School of Medicine (UNMSOM), where she founded the Center for Native American Health (CNAH). She served as Surgeon General for the Navajo Nation and was a member of the Advisory Council for the Office of Minority Health, US Department of Health and Human Services. Currently, she is the Executive Director of the Native American Budget and Policy Institute (NABPI) in the UNM Center for Social Policy which analyzes research and budget policies in areas of health, education and environmental justice for our native children, families and communities.
This week, Cal and Cathy get intersectional. Sirius Bonner joins the podcast to talk about adding fatness to our intersectional lens, being a Black woman in Portland Oregon, and the definition of "Blerd."
Hear more from Sirius at our conference, Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021 Discount registration available for students and massage therapists. Email education@healwell.org for details.
About Our Guest: Sirius Bonner is Vice President of Equity and Inclusion at Planned Parenthood Columbia Willamette. She is an Experienced Equity Practioner, Consultant, and Educator with demonstrated successes in the health care industry, higher education, and the nonprofit sector.
Welcome to Season 4 of Interdisciplinary, where we are diving right into the deep end. Cal and Cathy kick it off with Emily Clore, DVM and a hilarious, honest, and raw conversation about what it's like to be a human whose job is to care for animals. This episode includes discussions of suicide and suicide prevention.
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About Our Guest: Emily Clore is a former massage therapist and now practicing companion animal veterinarian based in San Diego. She’s an advocate for empowering pet owners to take an active role in their pet’s well-being through preventive healthcare, education and kindness.
Located in Chicago, Ujimaa Medics is a community-based organization that provides critical health care training to the community, in support of the people who live there. Part 2 of this conversation includes one of UMedics' supporters and volunteers and to share her personal experience and continue the discussion of caring for one another and mobilizing a community to take care of itself when the systems are not invested in care.
This is the final episode of Season 3. Interdisciplinary will return with Season 4, starting on September 18.
Check out Ujimaa Medics here: www.umedics.org
Ujimaa Medics will be part of Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, October 9-10. Get more information here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
About Our Guest: Martine Caverl is one of the founders of Ujimaa Medics. UMedics are "Black community organizers, activists, pastors, healthcare professionals, mothers, brothers, sisters, fathers, cousins, and friends of African Descent in Chicago."
Ujimaa is a Swahili word that refers to collective work and responsibility. Located in Chicago, Ujimaa Medics is a community-based organization that provides critical health care training to the community, in support of the people who live there. Part 1 of this conversation dives deep into questions of health justice, access to care, and the need for open-eyed awareness of structural racism's effect on health care.
Check out Ujimaa Medics here: www.umedics.org
Ujimaa Medics will be part of Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, October 9-10. Get more information here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
About Our Guest: Martine Caverl is one of the founders of Ujimaa Medics. UMedics are "Black community organizers, activists, pastors, healthcare professionals, mothers, brothers, sisters, fathers, cousins, and friends of African Descent in Chicago."
Cal and Cathy welcome back Dr. Jennifer Hutton, aka Dr. Jpop, to talk about all things allyship, solidarity, and staying in the work because the work isn't even close to done.
Find out more about Dr. Jpop's Building Allyship program here: Building Allyship: https://drjpop.com/buildingallyship IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr.jpop/
Dr. Jpop is one of the awesome presenters at Healwell's Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care conference, October 9-10. Get more information here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
About Our Guest: Dr. Jennifer Hutton, aka Dr. Jpop, is a pediatric physical therapist from Nashville, TN. She graduated from Loma Linda University with her Doctorate in Physical Therapy in 2008 and moved back to her hometown. She spent two years treating in an ortho setting before finally transitioning to her dream job with children. Jennifer enjoys treating the developmentally delayed population, as well as children with neurological and orthopedic diagnoses, both congenital and acquired. While the world reminds children with special needs of their limitations, she believes they are all capable of the impossible and helps them see that their special gifts will help them be their best selves.
As a Black woman, Jennifer knows what it is like to identify as different, and it has helped in her quest to be an ally for children with disabilities inside and outside of the clinic. Now she is educating others on how to be effective allies to BIPOC and furthering her desire to create a diverse and inclusive space she calls Dr. Jpop’s Neighborhood.
This week, Cal and our guest, Anna Valdez, consider the question: what if care providers just believed people? What if we just believed that people were telling the truth about their pain or discomfort? This week is a deep dive into assumptions, biases, and cultural habits that increase suffering for all humans.
Healwell's virtual conference, Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, is October 9-10. 8 CEs for most health care professions. Find out more here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
About Our Guest: Anna Valdez, Ph.D., RN, PHN, CEN, CNE, CFRN, FAEN, FAADN Dr. Anna Valdez has been a nurse, specializing in emergency nursing, for almost 30 years. She is currently a Professor of Nursing at Sonoma State University.
Cal and Cathy talk with Ian Watlington about respect for bodies as they are, awareness of the whole human life cycle, and what we should all thank disability advocates for. (Hint: curb cuts are just the start.)
Ian is one of the presenters at Healwell's Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care conference, October 9-10. Find out more here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
If you enjoyed this episode, Ian also recommends Disability After Dark with Andrew Gurza: http://www.andrewgurza.com/podcast
About Our Guest: Twitter: @ianwsays Instagram: @ianwsaw Ian Watlington is a Senior Disability Advocacy Specialist for The National Disability Rights Network in Washington, DC.
Gene Dockery knows bad research when they see it, and in this episode, they are talking with Cal and Cathy about one of the most famous (and insidiously pervasive) bad research studies out there. It's the one that gave us the ideas about "latent homosexuality." In a deep, wide-ranging, and unflinching look at this study, and bad research in general, this episode challenges us to challenge our thinking.
Register now for Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, a two-day virtual conference: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
About Our Guest: Gene Dockery is a third year doctoral student at Ohio University in Counselor Education and Supervision. They are also a licensed professional counselor working in community mental health specializing in queer populations and trauma. Their research focuses on addressing inequalities in both higher education and healthcare for members of the LGBTQIA community and other marginalized groups.
It's a book review, it's a conversation, it's a podcast! This week, Cal and Cathy welcomes Janet Penny and Rebecca Sturgeon, co-authors of Oncology Massage: An integrative approach to cancer care. This conversation touches on the heart and soul of what we do when caring for other humans.
Learn more about the book here: https://www.handspringpublishing.com/product/oncology-massage/
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About Our Guests: Janet Penny, RMT Janet Penny RMT has extensive experience working with people living with cancer in both her private practice and at an integrative cancer centre. Janet has developed a treatment approach that addresses the multi-faceted needs of oncology massage clients. Her approach focuses on pre- and post-surgical treatments, scar tissue, radiation fibrosis, neuropathy and pain within the complex context of the client’s emotions that pervade and influence the body. Janet is forever amazed at the resiliency of the human body and all it goes through.
Rebecca Sturgeon, LMT Rebecca Sturgeon started her career as a massage therapist in 2008 and began working with oncology patients in 2010. She has worked in clinical and community environments providing massage and manual lymphatic drainage. She has been a massage therapy educator for the majority of her career and currently works as the Education Director for Healwell.
This episode originally aired in November 2020.
Cal and Cathy talk with Ann Blair Kennedy and Kemi Balogun, where they discuss the lack of diversity and inclusion in the health care professions and possibilities for moving to a more inclusive place.
Learn more about Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, our virtual conference on October 9 and 10, 2021: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
About Our Guests: KEMI BALOGUN, BS University of South Carolina School of Medicine Greenville Kemi Balogun is a fourth year medical student at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine Greenville. In 2016, she received her B.S. in Biology with a minor in Psychology at Wake Forest University. She has a special interest in women’s mental health and health care disparities.
ANN BLAIR KENNEDY, LMT, BCTMB, DRPH University of South Carolina School of Medicine Greenville Dr. Kennedy is an Assistant Professor at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine Greenville in the Department of Biomedical Sciences. She became a board certified and a South Carolina licensed massage therapist in 1999 and was in clinical practice prior to pursuing her Doctor of Public Health degree in Health Promotion, Education, and Behavior from the University of South Carolina. She completed her Postdoctoral Fellowship in the Human Performance Lab at the USC School of Medicine Greenville in April 2017. Dr. Kennedy’s specific research interests include: patient and stakeholder engagement in research, implementation monitoring and process evaluation, integrative medicine, and stress/wellness particularly in health professionals. Finally, she is the Director of the Patient Engagement Studio and the Executive Editor/Editor-in-Chief of the International Journal of Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork.
In this rebroadcast of an episode from December 2020, Cal and Cathy talk with the inimitable Gil Hedley about anatomy, bodies, wholeness, acceptance, and the ultimate wisdom inherent in the human body.
Interdisciplinary will be on hiatus until July. We have a great Season 3 already in the works, and hope you will join us there.
About Our Guest: Gil Hedley, Ph.D., has been teaching anatomy with an integral approach in the dissection lab for the past 26 years. He is the producer of The Integral Anatomy Series, the author of several books, and has spent a great deal of time on the road inviting folks to witness the gift of their human body with appreciation. Gil has a whole pile of free resources available to those who join his website, www.gilhedley.com where you can also find his teaching schedule and online courses. Gil has recently launched the Explorer level membership on his site, granting access to all of his for-credit online courses, all of his books, his comprehensive "Anatomy from A to Z" project, as well as monthly "Live with Gil" sessions, all for just $15/month.
This is a re-broadcast of an episode of our earlier podcast, Massage Therapy Without Borders. In this episode, Cal and Cathy dive deep with Jennifer Hutton, DPH, pediatric physical therapist and antiracism educator.
The doors to Building Allyship are going to re-open in September 2021. Click here to join the wait list: https://drjpop.com/buildingallyship.
About Our Guest: Website: www.drjpop.com Webinar link: https://www.crowdcast.io/e/Anti-Racism&AllyshipforRehabandMovementProfessionals/register Social media: IG @dr.jpop Twitter @drjpop Facebook Dr.Jpop
Bio: Dr. Jennifer Hutton, aka Dr. Jpop, is a pediatric physical therapist from Nashville, TN. She became interested in PT when her youngest cousin was diagnosed with cerebral palsy. Jennifer spent time observing him in different therapies, and subsequently determined that she would work with children in a similar capacity.
She graduated from Loma Linda University with her Doctorate in Physical Therapy in 2008, and moved back to her hometown. She spent two years treating in an ortho setting before finally transitioning to her dream job with children. Jennifer enjoys treating the developmentally delayed population, as well as children with neurological and orthopedic diagnoses, both congenital and acquired. While the world reminds children with special needs of their limitations, she believes they are all capable of the impossible and helps them see that their special gifts will help them be their best selves. Jennifer loves to showcase her “pop stars” and share creative treatment ideas on Instagram. She is also an instructor for RockTape and is currently working on her own educational content for pediatric movement specialists.
As a Black woman, Jennifer knows what it is like to identify as different, and it has helped in her quest to be an ally for children with disabilities inside and outside of the clinic. Now she is educating others on how to be effective allies to BIPOC and furthering her desire to create a diverse and inclusive space she calls Dr. Jpop’s Neighborhood.
As our podcasts guests said a few weeks ago, housing is health care. This week, Cal and Cathy talk with Dan Berger and Tara Wenger, Service Coordinators and hosts of The Service Coordinator Podcast, about their work with the residents of affordable housing. Service Coordinators are like a multiplex knife -- able to adapt to multiple situations and address a variety of problems.
Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care conference, October 9-10: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
Opening to the Mystery, June 21-26: https://online.healwell.org/courses/opening-to-the-mystery
The Service Coordinator Podcast: https://anchor.fm/thescposdcast
About Our Guests
Dan Berger Dan graduated from The Ohio State University with a degree in Communications. He has worked for National Church Residences in the Department of Support Services for 15 years. For the majority of those years Dan operated Service Coordinator Programs for more than 35 clients in over 200 Affordable Housing communities. Currently Dan is the Executive Director of Client Relations for the Support Services Department. He lives in Columbus, OH with his wife and 4 kids.
Tara Wenger, MSW, LSW Tara Wenger holds a Masters of Social Work degree, and is a Licensed Social Worker with approximately 10 years of social work experience. Tara has worked for National Church Residences in the department of Support Services for 6 years, serving first in a quality assurance role, then as a database administrator. In her current role as Senior Director of Support Services, Tara oversees administrative supports for service coordination: Quality Assurance, Service Coordination Staffing, and the Care Guide documentation system.
This week's guest are here to talk to us about supporting trans folks, and what it means to be an ally in general. Kalyn and Ro of Get Your Joey are here to encourage us to move beyond "tolerance" or "acceptance" to truly celebrating and affirming the people in our lives for who they are, right now. ("What's a Joey?", you ask. Listen in to find out.)
Get Your Joey website: getyourjoey.com
Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, Healwell's virtual conference is October 9-10. Get more information and register here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021
About Our Guests: Ro Walker Mills and Kalyn Falk became friends 7 years ago and found they shared a common interest in creative problem solving, advocacy, and offering practical support to the trans community. They started a company together called Get Your Joey the following year, making a functional resource for transmasculine people and providing employment for trans and nonbinary people. Their Joey pouch is sold worldwide and Ro won the Entrepreneur of the Year award through the LGBT Chamber of Commerce in 2018. Outside of Get Your Joey, Ro is a Cannabis consultant and Kalyn is a spiritual director and sessional lecturer at the University of Winnipeg.
In this episode, we talk about health care for the homeless. How can this organization deliver person-centered, interdisciplinary care to some of Baltimore's most vulnerable people, and what can we learn from them?
Health Care for the Homeless - Maryland: hchmd.org
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About Our Guests:
Amelia Jackson MSN, CRNP, FNP-BC Amelia Jackson is a Family Nurse Practitioner (FNP) with over 7 years of experience, working for the past 5 years at Health Care for the Homeless, a Federally Qualified Healthcare Center (FQHC), caring for some of the most vulnerable individuals in our society. Ms. Jackson is a 2008 graduate of the University of Louisville with her Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) and a 2013 graduate of the Johns Hopkins University School of Nursing where she received her Master of Science in Nursing (MSN) with a Family Nurse Practitioner (FNP) focus. Prior to becoming an FNP, Ms. Jackson worked as an emergency department nurse for 5 years. The driving force behind Ms. Jackson and her work is that high quality, equitable, culturally informed healthcare should not be a privilege enjoyed by some, but a right enjoyed by everyone.
Lilian Amaya Lilian Amaya works as Coordinator of Community Health & Outreach at Health Care for the Homeless. She brings 15 years of experience serving individuals at the intersection of human services and health care. Lilian is the daughter of Salvadorian immigrants and identifies as a queer Latinx woman.
Jill Cole joins the podcast this week to talk about truly advanced clinical practice, elevating patient care, and building interdisciplinary care. It's not about your hands, it's about what your brain tells your hands to do.
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About Our Guest: Jill Cole is a 1998 graduate of the Boulder College of Massage Therapy, in Boulder, Colorado, and has worked in the field of massage therapy as a clinician, educator, presenter, and researcher ever since. Having worked closely with physicians, nurses, physical therapists, acupuncturists, chiropractors, talk therapists, and other allied health professionals, Jill brings a comprehensive approach to hospital-based massage therapy and patient care. Jill has served on professional boards for the American Massage Therapy Association-KY, and currently sits on the National Board of Directors for the Society for Oncology Massage. Jill Cole is also the former Director of Clinical Education and Director of Education for the Lexington Healing Arts Academy, in Lexington, KY. Additionally, Jill is licensed by the KY Board of Massage Therapy, Board Certified by the National Certification Board of Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork, and holds a Master of Arts in Higher Education Leadership, from Siena Heights University. Jill works at UKHC Integrative Medicine and Health, where she is the Massage Therapy Coordinator.
This week, it's Cal and Cathy talking about stuff. Hear what your favorite podcasts hosts are thinking and reading these days, and how everything is connected to good health care.
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In this episode, Cal and Cathy welcome Jan Booth for a talk about this thing we all have in common -- death. What does it mean to really care for folks at the end of life? How can we prepare ourselves, our medical providers, and our caregivers for the end of our lives? And what are some new ways that people have found to serve in this area?
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About Our Guest: Jan Booth, MA, RN, NC-BC Jan has worked as a nurse for over 33 years within the intersection of quality of life and end of life, and she is deeply curious about what creates and sustains wellbeing throughout the human experience.
Jan’s current work is as an Integrative Nurse Coach around the practice of wellbeing in aging, illness, and dying -- supporting people in navigating serious illness, helping families to talk more openly about end-of-life priorities, and providing health coaching for both professional and personal/family caregivers.
She also serve as faculty for the International Nurse Coach Association, including the Integrative Nurse Coach certificate programs, an End-of-Life Nurse Coaching program in collaboration with the New York Open Center, and co-created an advanced training program called Coaching Conversations for People Living with Chronic & Advanced Illness.
This week, Cathy and Cal talk with an RN who works at a state correctional facility. What is it like to care for people who are incarcerated? What does she wish people knew about life inside a prison? And what in the world is up with all the beans? This fascinating conversation will give you a glimpse of what it is like to be a caregiver in a system that is not necessarily built for care. (For security reasons, her name and location are not mentioned.)
As always, the views expressed by our guests are not necessarily those of Healwell or of Interdisciplinary's hosts and staff.
A note about the audio: due to some unavoidable issues with our guest's connection, there are some minor issues with the sound quality of this episode. We apologize for any inconvenience.
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Black women who are diagnosed with breast cancer are 71% more likely to die. This week.s guest, Jamil Rivers, has made it her life's work to explore this disparity and find solutions. Jamil talks with Cal about her organization, The Chrysalis Initiative, their programs, and what is really driving those outcome disparities. Jamil also talks about what happens when you address the biases that drive disparities.
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About Our Guest: Jamil Rivers was diagnosed with de novo metastatic breast cancer at age 39. Determined to do everything to be here for her children, husband, and family, she researched vigorously how to best prepare for breast cancer and treatment. Jamil started treatment with chemotherapy and supported her health by improving her nutrition with food and supplements and integrative therapies. She is now doing well and on hormonal therapy. Jamil continues to work full-time and live an active life. She believes the research she did to prepare herself for her cancer has been critical in her recovery and overall wellness. She became an advocate to use her voice and experiences to help advance legislative policy, medical research, and to promote care that better meets the needs of individuals impacted by breast
cancer, particularly Black and metastatic patients. Jamil is the board president of METAvivor, and on the Board of Directors of Healwell and Living Beyond Breast Cancer. She is a policy and science advocate and metastatic and African-American health equity advisory committee member with Susan G. Komen. She is a member and patient advisor of the Metastatic Breast Cancer Alliance. She is a proposal reviewer for the Breast Cancer Research Program with the Department of Defense and a Project LEAD graduate. She is a Steering Committee member of the Clinical Trials Transformation Initiative. Jamil also launched The Chrysalis Initiative which provides one-on-coaching and patient navigation support to women with breast cancer, engages in outreach and education for Black women to assess their breast cancer risk and provides training and solutions for providers to ensure equitable care. Through Jamil’s work, she has participated in countless community health events, facilitated the design and funding of two metastatic clinical trials, met with leadership within the Pennsylvania governor’s office and congressional leaders in Washington, D.C., testified to the Food and Drug Administration, and connected numerous women to resources for screenings, treatment, and support. Jamil and her husband, Rick, have three children and reside in Drexel Hill,Pennsylvania.
Everyone is talking about vaccine distribution. An important part of the story is equity. Today, Cal and Cathy welcome Eileen Milian and Christian Malachy Porter of the We Got Us Project, a Boston-based organization seeking "to empower our communities with accurate science information and public health resources by connecting Black community members and organizations with trusted Black healthcare professionals and students."
Check out the We Got Us Project: wegotusproject.org
This is the last episode of Season 1 of Interdisciplinary. We will return with amazing guests, great conversations, and MORE PUNS on April 3, 2021.
About Our Guests:
Eileen Milien was born in Haiti and raised in Boston. She is currently a junior attending Emmanuel College and studying biology. She is committed to solving the challenges facing marginalized communities from a public health perspective. She serves as the Representative of Diversity and Inclusion on the Emmanuel College Student Government Association. She works as a research assistant in a neuroscience lab at Harvard University. She also volunteers at a reading program with Boston Public Schools. In her free time, she enjoys reading, long walks and watching mystery documentaries. She is very excited to be working on the We Got Us team and working to create actionable change to benefit our community.
Christian Malachy Porter is a sophomore at Harvard College in Dunster House jointly concentrating in the History of Science and African-American Studies and also pursuing a secondary field in Global Health & Health Policy. His experience as a native of Atlanta, Georgia has made him deeply passionate about the healthcare concerns of marginalized communities, and he has become committed to solving these problems from both biomedical and public health perspectives as a future physician. Aside from his role on the education team at the We Got Us project, Christian currently serves as Vice President of the Harvard Black Premedical Society, the executive programming chair of the Harvard Black Students’ Association as well as on the board of the Harvard Black Health Advocates, where he helped with the implementation of the 2021 Black Health Matters Conference. Additionally, he conducts hematology research at Beth Israel and plans to work in federal healthcare policy this summer! Ultimately, Christian aspires to work with his community to uplift them and create space for them in medicine, allowing more people to live healthy and happy lives.
This week, Cal talks with Briane Pinkson, a true interdisciplinary pioneer. Briane shares her experiences forming and growing interdisciplinary care within her hospital. This is a must listen for any professional who wants to champion truly interdisciplinary care in their workplace.
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Medicine Hands, by Gayle MacDonald: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Medicine-Hands/Gayle-MacDonald/9781844096398
Oncology Massage: An integrative approach to cancer care, by Janet Penny and Rebecca Sturgeon: https://www.handspringpublishing.com/product/oncology-massage/
About Our Guest: Briane started working as an LPN in 1973! In 1977 she began working on the hematology/oncology in-patient unit at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in Lebanon, NH. In 1983, after attending massage school, she started offering massage to both patients and staff.. In 1989, funding was obtained to allow her to stop her nursing duties, and only offer massage. Since that time, the in-patient Healing Arts Program became part of the Palliative Care Team, and Briane now supervises 6 part-time massage therapists.
How do the words we use affect the people we serve? What could be problematic about some of the common things we say as care providers? What happens when we listen to our words from a different perspective? Cal and Cathy welcome Anne Kelemen to the podcast to consider the question of language.
Check out Anne Keleman's course on Healwell's online course portal: https://online.healwell.org/courses/to-chart-or-not-to-chart
Anne Kelemen's articles: Ambiguity in End-of-Life Care Terminology—What Do We Mean by “Comfort Care?” https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2698147 Poor prognostication: hidden meanings in word choices https://spcare.bmj.com/content/7/3/267
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About Our Guest: Anne Kelemen is the Director of Psychosocial/Spiritual Care for the Section of Palliative Care at MedStar Washington Hospital Center in Washington, DC, where she conducts patient care, teaches and participates in a variety of research activities. She also serves as an Associate Professor of Medicine at Georgetown University and as Associate Program Director for the MedStar Georgetown Interprofessional Palliative Care Fellowship Program. Prior to joining the Hospital Center staff, Ms. Kelemen instituted the first palliative care service at MedStar Good Samaritan Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. She is board certified in hospice and palliative social work and is a board member for the Social Work Hospice and Palliative Network (SWHPN) where she currently chairs the membership committee.
Elder Angela Overton experienced the value of interdisciplinary care as a teenager dealing with cancer. She joins the podcast today to dive deep into a discussion of equity, systemic change, and taking loving care of one another. Expect open hearts and honest talk about the barriers that prevent us from embracing each other in our full humanity.
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About Our Guest: Elder Angela Overton, MDiv., an effective communicator of what it means to receive and share Divine Holy Love. Angela is widely known for her practical and dynamic teaching style which helps people apply the timeless truths of sacred text to their everyday lives. She has been preaching, teaching and providing pastoral care for 25 years. Angela resides in Louisville, Kentucky where she has served as an associate minister at Green Castle Baptist Church for 9 years and at Burnett Avenue Baptist Church for 3 years. She is a former Contract Chaplain for Norton Healthcare filling in for Staff Chaplains; where she provided spiritual guidance, emotional support and direct care to patients, family members and staff.
Angela is the founder and director of her own 501c3 Care Well Ministry; where she works with Faith Leaders as they work in partnership to care well for those in their places of worship who are sick and shut-in. She is the Senior Advisor at the Coalition to Transform Advanced Care (C-TAC) in Washington, DC of the Interfaith Workgroup. Angela oversees faith and diversity leaders across the United States where they are functioning to improve advanced illness care in our health systems, the quality of care and determinants of goals of care for the person with advanced illness, and their caregivers by creating, providing and implementing best practices and tangible resources for distribution to faith leaders to be shared with their community.
Angela is a cancer survivor, which she believes has been one of her greatest accomplishments and best experiences outside of being a mother that she has had. It is her belief that this experience provided the lens of the patient and fueled her desire, drive and devotion to intersect spiritual and clinical care for those facing illness.
She has volunteered for, and worked with numerous faith-based and not for profit organizations since her cancer experience in 1996. She currently sits on the board of Hosparus Health Care Guide Partners.
Angela earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in History with a concentration in Social Sciences from the University of Louisville.
Angela earned a Master degree in Divinity and a Black Church Studies Certificate from the Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary.
She is married to Minister David Overton, Sr. and they are the proud parents of David Jr., Brandon, Kristen and Byron. Her favorite reference of scripture is found in Hebrews 10:23; “Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful”
Cal and Cathy welcome Chanda Hinton, love-driven interdisciplinary powerhouse. Chanda talks about how integrative care saved her life, and what she is doing to ensure everyone has access to services. If you've ever wondered what one person can do, this episode is for you.
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Chanda Center for Health: Deliver and advocate for integrative therapy, primary care, and other complementary services to improve health outcomes and reduce healthcare costs for persons with physical disabilities. https://iamtheplan.org/center-for-health
Chanda Plan Foundation: To promote the mission of the Chanda Center for Health by providing sustainable financial support. https://iamtheplan.org/
About Our Guest
When you look into the face of Chanda Hinton, you see vitality and radiant health; you see a young woman with passion and determination; you see a person of strength and purpose. If you glance down from her face, you will see her wheelchair, and you realize that the goals of the nonprofit organization she founded 15 year ago. You will see that her role is rooted in her own personal story.
Chanda is the Executive Director of the Chanda Center for Health and Chanda Plan Foundation, which provides access to holistic, collaborative, access and disability competent healthcare programs to individuals with physical disabilities. In 2009, she led the movement to pass Colorado House Bill 1047, which created the Spinal Cord Injury (SCI) Waiver, offering acupuncture, massage, and chiropractic care through Medicaid to evaluate cost-effectiveness and improve quality of life for persons with spinal cord injuries in the Denver metro area. She will be expanding these services legislatively in 2021 to other diagnosis.
In addition to her work (passion), Chanda presents extensively to diverse audiences about wellness and disability. Chanda has a bachelor’s degree in Communications from the University of Denver and recently earned a Masters in Non-Profit Management from Regis University. In her spare time (wait, what spare time?), she enjoys cheesy ‘80s chick flicks, intense conversations with people in community and spending time with loved ones.
This episode features stories from people who have received the COVID vaccine, their experience, how and where they got the vaccine, and what it means to them. First, though, you will hear from one individual whose life may depend on other people getting vaccinated.
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This episode features: Cynthia Wold, Cathy Ward, Lee Harper-Chen, Sarah McLaughlin, Nancy Cohen, and Sakinah Irizarry
Cathy and guest host, Rebecca Sturgeon, have an interdisciplinary talk fest with Sam Cotton, of the Trager Institute in Louisville, Kentucky. Hear how one institution is training the next generation of professionals to work as a team to provide the best care to older adults.
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About Our Guest: Samantha (Sam) Cotton, PhD, is a program manager at the UofL Trager Institute and the 2019 Geriatrics Academic Career Award recipient.
Cal and Cathy welcome Beth Rosenthal and Dale Healey to talk about collaboration and true integrative care. It's about connecting practitioners and sharing resources. It's about knowing each other as people so we can advocate for other professions and have them advocate for ours.
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ACIH Hospital Based Massage Therapy (HBMT) Competencies for Optimal Practice in Integrated Environments: https://integrativehealth.org/s/HBMT_Competencies_2018.pdf
For more information about the development of these competencies: Hospital Based Massage Therapy (HBMT) Competencies Discussion (September 2016) https://integrativehealth.org/hbmt_competencies Hospital Based Massage Therapy (HBMT) (September 2016) https://integrativehealth.org/hbmt-ewg-cwg Hospital Based Massage Therapy https://integrativehealth.org/s/poster_hbmt_050516_ICIMH.pdf
AIHM | Body, mind, spirit, community and planet: https://aihm.org/
About Our Guests: Dale Healey Dale Healey is the dean of the College of Health and Wellness at Northwestern Health Sciences University. He received his BS in Human Anatomy and his DC degree from Parker College of Chiropractic, and his PhD in Organizational Leadership, Policy and Development from the University of Minnesota. He is a Commissioner for the Commission on Massage Therapy Accreditation. He serves as vice-chair of the Academic Collaborative for Integrative Health (ACIH). He co-chairs the ACIH Education Working Group and serves on the task force for development of competencies for hospital-based massage therapy competencies.
Beth Rosenthal Beth Rosenthal holds MBA and PhD degrees from the University of Chicago’s Graduate School of Business, and a Masters degree in Public Health from the University of California, Berkeley. Rosenthal is author of Replenish: A life enhancing activity book and It’s That Easy: The High Vibe Guide to Attracting what You Really Want. As Academic Collaborative for Integrative Health (ACIH) Director at the Academy of Integrative Health & Medicine (AIHM), Rosenthal coordinates efforts of educators in the Integrative Health and Medicine fields to advance team-based integrative care. She lives in Chicago, San Diego, and Charlevoix (Michigan) throughout the year, and enjoys dancing wherever she is! http://www.bethannerosenthal.com/
Cal and Cathy welcome Davonna Willis, entrepreneur and massage therapy educator. Davonna moderates a social media group for Black massage therapists and is here is talk about racism in the massage industry (and in life), the benefits of a safe space to share, and what white folks can do to support our Black colleagues. (There's a hint in the title.)
About Our Guest: A respected health and wellness practitioner and an acclaimed entrepreneur and educator, Davonna Willis is a passionate advocate for her clients and students.
As CEO of Blue Skyes Massage & Wellness Center, Davonna is committed to establishing and sustaining high quality standards of care in the industry. As the leader of an award winning practice, Davonna is widely known as someone who cares deeply about client relationships and practitioner integrity.
Davonna also owns 4 Nineteen Education & Training (http://www.4nineteeneducation.com) where she teaches a variety of massage curricula and also offers consulting on marketing and strategy to new business enterprises.
With a MA from Columbia University and a BA from Xavier University, Davonna has over 20 years of experience in the field of health and wellness. Starting in the Bronx and moving her way west, Davonna is a well rounded business professional especially accomplished in the area of holistic physical rehabilitation therapy.
Davonna is committed to the health and recovery of her clients and to the development of her colleagues and students. She is an advocate in elevating the way massage is perceived in society so that people fully recognize the power of healing in an expert’s human touch.
Cal and Cathy welcome Lee Harper-Chen and Alexis Paules, ICU nurses who work at the bedside with COVID patients. In this episode we hear what it's really like for front line health care workers, why just showing up is impressive, and how taking care of ourselves (by wearing masks and washing hands) is the best way to support nurses and other front line providers.
About Our Guests: Lee Harper-Chen is an ICU nurse at a level one trauma center in the Washington, DC area. She started caring for COVID patients during the spring surge and suffered with COVID herself for three weeks over the summer, which she caught in an outbreak among nurses. In her free time she loves playing sports and cuddling with her two young boys and their dog.
Alexis Paules accepted a job in the Neuro/trauma/Surgical ICU after college graduation, and has been working for about a year and a half now. Their ICU became a COVID ICU during the pandemic. During her first year of nursing she got married to her high school sweetheart and they just became homeowners in Maryland! Alexis loves to sing, cook, and spread the love to those around her.