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The 411k is a podcast committed to empowering professional women by promoting financial literacy and wellness. Co-hosts, Katie and Katherine, love to ask the taboo questions to help take the fear and shame out of talking about money. In each episode, these ladies talk money, careers and equality with experts who share their lessons learned. Everything touches money which means no topic is off limits. Whether you're just starting the financial lessons missing from formal education or you're just trying to show yourself some compassion around money, this podcast is a place for you. Set aside 30 minutes a week for some financial lessons with The 411k to build a wealth of knowledge that's priceless.
Brad Johnson is Professor of psychology in the Department of Leadership, Ethics and Law at the U.S. Naval Academy, and a Faculty Associate in the Graduate School of Education at Johns Hopkins University.
David Smith is Associate Professor of sociology in the College of Leadership and Ethics at the U.S. Naval War College.
They are co-authors of Athena Rising: How and Why Men Should Mentor Women and Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace.
Bola Sokunbi is a Certified Financial Education Instructor, finance expert, bestselling author, speaker, and founder of Clever Girl Finance, a financial education platform and community for women empowering them to achieve financial wellness and live life on their own terms.
Bola is also a first generation immigrant who had to teach herself how to navigate the American financial system. She shares some stories about navigating credit cards, debt, budgets and investing for the first time. In this episode, she reminds us that it’s normal to make mistakes and learn from them.
Lindsay Bryan-Podvin, owner and founder of Mind Money Balance, is a financial therapist who started her career in the field of mental health treatment and advocacy. As the first financial therapist in Michigan, she combines financial literacy with the emotional and psychological side of money. She always had an interest in mental health and found an even greater love working at the intersection of mental health and money, especially when it comes to romantic relationships. In addition to being a published author of the book “The Financial Anxiety Solution,” she has a degree in sociology from Michigan State University, and her Master’s in Social Work from the University of Michigan. She lives with her husband and their dog in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
In this episode, Lindsay joins The 411k to talk about how to couples can talk about their money and values.
Leisa Peterson is an author, business growth strategist, money expert, mindset coach and podcaster. She is an internationally recognized authority on bridging the gap between financial freedom and human spiritual potential. Leisa has a unique ability to draw from biology, neuroscience, philosophy, spiritual teachings and psychology to create a synthesis of knowledge that helps people understand scarcity and prosperity in profoundly affecting ways. She’s had the great fortune of witnessing 1,000’s of money breakthroughs and financial healings as a result of the process she explores in her book, The Mindful Millionaire.
It’s easy to fall into a scarcity mindset so we wanted to replay our conversation with Leisa Peterson about the benefits of an abundance focused mindset. Her book, The Mindful Millionaire, outlines a 7 step prosperity ladder and in this episode, we deep dive into what it means to feel “worthy.”
Dr. Stephanie J. Hull is President and CEO of Girls Inc., the national organization that inspires all girls to be strong, smart, and bold.
Girls Inc. delivers life-changing programs and experiences to more than 132,000 girls through a network of 80 local organizations across the U.S. and Canada. Girls Inc. also advocates for policy and culture change to strengthen opportunities for girls and improve the conditions in which all girls are growing up. Under Dr. Hull’s leadership, the Girls Inc. network is expanding into new high-need communities and developing new partnerships with schools to bring the proven Girls Inc. programming experience to more girls, ensuring that they have the resources and opportunities to thrive.
Dr. Hull has had a long career as a leader in education and as a women’s advocate. She previously served as Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer at the Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship Foundation. Before that, she was Head of the Brearley School, an all-girls school located in New York City. At Brearley, among other accomplishments, she led and completed the School’s largest capital campaign to date ($75M). Dr. Hull was also a member of the faculty and administration at Mount Holyoke, and Dartmouth Colleges.
Dr. Hull has lent her expertise and talents to a number of mission-driven organizations over the years. In particular, she is a board member of the Professional Children’s School; Code Nation, which equips students in underresourced high schools with the skills needed for careers in technology; and Humanity in Action, an international nonprofit organization that educates and connects young people who seek to become leaders on issues related to human and minority rights.
Kim Scott is the author of Just Work and Radical Candor and co-founder of a company that helps people put the ideas in her books into practice. Kim was a CEO coach at Dropbox, Qualtrics, Twitter, and other tech companies. She was a member of the faculty at Apple University and before that led AdSense, YouTube, and DoubleClick teams at Google.
In this episode, Kim gets radically candid about life in the workplace… how to deal with bias, how to give and receive feedback, and how to motivate teams.
Key Takeaways:
You don’t have to be passionate about your job. The folks who work for you don’t have to be passionate about their jobs either.
Effective guidance is humble, helpful, immediate, delivered in person, praise in public, criticize in private, and not about a personality attribute.
Feedback is about active listening (receiving feedback) as much as it is about giving it.
Being radically candid means you tell people what they need to know in a way that is kind and clear. And you ask them to do the same with you.
REPLAY! Stephanie Xenos is a self-described “recovering rocket scientist and overall investing nerd.” Stephanie is a member of the Financial Independence / Retire Early community, aka the FIRE community. She started investing at 18, and retired at 32 from a career at NASA and SpaceX. Stephanie then founded her company, Money Muse, with the sole…
REPLAY! Jennifer Barrett, the Chief Education Officer at Acorns, is an expert at helping women shift their money mindsets and take control of their finances. She is also the author of “Think Like a Breadwinner,” a manifesto for the working woman, with tips on building wealth and finding balance. Barrett joins The 411k in this…
Catherine Wood, Founder and Head Coach of Unbounded Potential, a boutique coaching firm supporting all aspects of growing a scalable and impact-driven business while prioritizing living a joyfully aligned life for ambitious empaths and sensitive entrepreneurs. Her firm coaches entrepreneurs, creatives and C-suite leaders on their performance, leadership and holistic success through 1:1 coaching and…
Shawna Martin has been a global technology leader for over 20 years. Her extensive experience in guiding and growing successful teams and their leaders is where her passion for coaching and mentoring began. And now, Seedling Coach is where that same passion continues to expand as a career and life coach. Shawna has developed a…
Lauren Wells is the VP of Investor Relations & Strategy at 7e Investments. She leads the strategic evaluation of market research and implements, leads, and supports the business strategies. She has also been a real estate investor since 2010. During this time, she has helped grow and manage a portfolio of over 100 assets which…
We are very excited to share PART TWO of our conversation with Jamie Fiore Higgins on toxic work environments. In this conversation, Jamie shares how she climbed the corporate ladder as well as the highs and lows of being transparent about her experience at Goldman Sachs through her book, Bully Market. After reflecting on her…
We are very excited to share this TWO PART episode with Jamie Fiore Higgins on toxic work environments. In this conversation, Jamie shares her money story which is intertwined with career journey at Goldman Sachs. We talk about how corporate cultures influence our identity and the danger of the “dangling carrot” that keeps us in…
Stephanie M. Pierce is the CEO of Dreyfus, Mellon & Exchange-Traded Funds at BNY Mellon Investment Management. In this role, she has responsibility for the development of the firm’s sponsored ETF offering as well as the index and money markets businesses. Stephanie is an entrepreneurial investment management veteran with extensive leadership experience driving strategic change and commercial innovation across investment management companies.
Prior to joining BNY Mellon in 2018, Stephanie served as Executive Vice President, Investment Product Group at Fidelity Investments, where she led product strategy for Fidelity’s $2 trillion asset management business.
Stephanie, who resides in Boston with her husband and daughter, has a BA in International Relations from Stanford University and holds the Series 24, 7 and 3 certifications. She is a member of the Leadership Board at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, a member of the Board of Advisors for the Boston Ballet, a member of the Advisory Board of the Journal of Portfolio Management, a member of the Speakers’ Bureau of Women in ETFs and a Trustee for the US Ski and Snowboard Foundation Board.
First-time CEO, Stephanie Pierce joins The 411k to share the story of her non-linear career path, lessons from 30+ years in the finance industry, and advice to young professionals on what it means to be a leader today.
Tracy Coenen is known as a no-nonsense forensic accountant who delivers the “real deal” to her clients. After years of watching those who couldn’t justify the cost of a forensic accountant lose thousands of dollars in their divorces, Tracy knew she had to create a solution. That’s why she put her heart into creating the Divorce Money Guide. Tracy works as a forensic accountant through her firm, Sequence Inc. Forensic Accounting. She has been doing fraud investigations for more than 25 years, and is a CPA (Certified Public Accountant), CFF (Certified in Financial Forensics), and MAFF (Master Analyst in Financial Forensics).
Tracy joins the 411k to talk about financial infidelity and to empower our listeners to take control of their financial future when it comes to divorce. By sharing critical investigation tips, Tracy gives her clients the power to negotiate for more assets.
Joe Rogers, founder of Contagious Events, is back on the podcast to answer audience questions about wedding planning – how to talk about money with your partner or family, how to identify priorities for the day, and how to identify the budget for your wedding. After over a decade of working with couples and navigating the ins and outs of wedding planning, Joe has noticed some things about the wedding industry that aren’t all flowers and lace and he is determined to improve the experience for couples. In this episode, he shares real examples to help you know what to expect as your navigate weddings, budgets and taboo conversations as part of the planning process. As a bonus, he also shares where couples tend to get the most sticker shock as well as what has changed in the industry post-pandemic.
Erica Rooney is a Keynote Speaker, Executive Coach & Consultant, host of the Podcast, From Now to Next, and a Chief People Officer. With 10 years of experience in HR leading organizations in gender equality crusades, & coaching Executive Women, Erica has created a framework that empowers women to get seen, get heard, and get promoted by breaking free from the sticky floors that hold us back from busting through the glass ceiling.
Sticky floors are the limiting beliefs that hold you back from busting through the glass ceiling. They show up in the form of perfectionism, imposter syndrome, or the fear of judgment/failure, etc. Erica Rooney walks us through her framework for how to shift our mindset to get unstuck, get promoted and get paid.
NAME IT. QUESTION IT. SHIFT IT.
Katica Roy is an award-winning gender economist, former Global 500 global executive, programmer, data scientist, and the CEO and founder of an award-winning SaaS company, Pipeline. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, Bloomberg, Cheddar, MarketWatch, Yahoo Finance, Wharton Business, Newsy, and NBC have sought Katica for her sharp and unconventional take on the day’s headlines. She has interviewed President Biden, Vice President Harris, Senators Booker and Gillibrand, Secretary Pete, Canadian Pay Equity Commissioner Karen Jensen, Sophia Bush, Eve Rodsky, Gretchen Carlson, and Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings.
Her high-octane, visionary articles have been published by the World Economic Forum, Fast Company, Fortune, Forbes, Bloomberg, NBC, Entrepreneur, The Hill, The Advocate, Harvard Business Review, and Morning Consult. Her articles have garnered over 2.9 billion impressions. In 2017 Katica was named a Luminary by the Colorado Technology Association; in 2018 a Colorado Governors’ Fellow; in 2019 a Top 25 Most Powerful Women in Business and awarded the Stevie Entrepreneur of the Year—Gold Award; in 2020 she was named the Colorado Entrepreneur of the Year; in 2022 a LinkedIn Top Influencer for gender equity. She is a member
of Fast Company’s Impact Council and Bloomberg’s New Economy Forum.
Pipeline uses advanced technology to make intersectional gender parity a reality in our lifetime. In addition to its core platform, Pipeline launched the first gender equity app on Salesforce’s AppExchange. Pipeline was also named as one of TIME Magazine’s Best Inventions of 2019, Fast Company’s 2020 and 2023 World’s Most Innovative Companies, Fast Company’s 2021 Next Big Things in Tech, and Fast Company’s 2022 World Changing Ideas. Pipeline is backed by both Accenture and Workday.
Katica Roy joins The 411k to share some of the labor statistics that she works with every day that paints a different picture about “progress” towards gender equity. After setting a foundation of the systemic barriers that women face personally and professionally, Katica tells us about the three key decisions that impact gender equity in the workplace.
Eryn Schultz, founder of Her Personal Finance, became passionate about helping Americans achieve their financial goals while working on her MBA. Eryn started Her Personal Finance to help other high-earning women take charge of their financial futures.
Eryn joins The 411k to talk about the costs of getting pregnant and fertility treatments. As a warning to our listeners, we will also reference the struggles to get pregnant, including infertility and miscarriages, which come with their own emotional costs.
Take Aways from the Episode:
HAVE A BABY FUND (Start building a sinking fund of $20k-$30k to use for surprise costs)
UNDERSTAND YOUR BENEFITS (Picking the right health plan can save you money. But also check to see what company benefits you are eligible for to cover the costs)
Liz Young is SoFi’s Head of Investment Strategy, responsible for providing economic and market insights to a variety of audiences. Prior to joining SoFi, Liz was the Director of Market Strategy at BNY Mellon Investment Management where she formulated and delivered views on macroeconomic themes and their effects on capital markets. She is a CFA Charterholder, and member of the CFA Institute and CFA Society of New York. Liz is also the host of The Important Part: Investing With Liz Young, a podcast from SoFi, which takes listeners through today’s top-of-mind themes in investing and breaks them down into digestible and actionable pieces.
Liz joins The 411k to talk about the current state of the market given inflation, Fed rate changes, and a looming recession. She also talks about the importance of taking healthy risks when it comes to investing because often, the best way to learn is to try, fail, and try again.
Here are some of the statistics we shared in this episode:
28% of women feel confident about investing some of their money
74% of retail investors say they would likely invest more if they had more opportunities to learn about investing
40% of non-investors chose not to invest because they did not know how to do so or found it too confusing
50% of women believe investing is a high-risk endeavor
Women in the U.S. believe they need $6,000 of disposable income each month or $72,000 per year before they can begin investing.
Vicki Robin is a social innovator, writer and speaker. She is coauthor of the international best-seller, Your Money or Your Life: Transforming Your Relationship With Money and Achieving Financial Independence. It was an instant NY Times best seller in 1992 and steadily appeared on the Business Week Best Seller list from 1992-1997. The New York Times called her the “prophet of consumption down-sizers.” Vicki has lectured widely and appeared on hundreds of radio and television shows, including The Oprah Winfrey Show, Good Morning America, NPR’s “Weekend Edition” and “Morning Edition” and now The 411k!
Vicki joins Katie and Katherine to share timeless money lessons! This episode covers the importance of values-based living and how building connections within your community is a money lesson worth investing in.
Dori Brewster is a Realtor at La Macchia Realty. She helps those of us in Massachusetts navigate the real estate market.
Being a life-long resident of Somerville, MA, Dori observed how rapidly the city was changing and it sparked her interest in the real estate industry.
Dori has over 20 years of sales and customer service experience. In that time, she developed the ability to build rapport with ease while making it a point to truly understand the client’s needs in order to best serve them. Her main focus has always been the people, not the pay, which is what makes real estate the best career for her.
As a real estate agent, Dori’s goal is to be known as the agent who not only sells the most homes but as the agent who cares most about her client’s needs. She will help her clients reach their goals by educating them on both the conditions of the current market and how these conditions can help them to achieve their desired outcomes. Whether it be advising a seller on how to price their home competitively or offering tips to buyers on how to be flexible enough in their terms to stay competitive, Dori aims to be the most informative, compassionate, and determined resource possible!
Nicole Kalil is a confidence sherpa, an in-demand speaker, leadership strategist, respected coach, and host of the “This Is Woman’s Work” Podcast. A fugitive of the C-suite at a Fortune 100 company, she has coached hundreds of women in business, which has given her insight as to what – structurally, systemically and socially – is and isn’t serving women and leaders within an organization.
Nicole joins The 411k to discuss her new book “Validation is for Parking” which is all about confidence! We really enjoyed this shame-free discussion about confidence – what it is, what it isn’t, and how to build it – and we hope you will to.
Another one bites the dust! Katie and Katherine discuss the life events and big financial moves that we’ve made over the last year. As a reminder, we are not know-it-all experts. We are living and learning as we go. In this episode, we share some successes, some strange turns, and a few mistakes that got us through this year.
Chris Mackey, CEO of Bluebid, joins The 411k to talk about his newest venture. Bluebid enables homebuyers to privately communicate interest in off-market properties to approachable homeowners. The site allows buyers to send offers directly to the sellers of off-market properties to see if the right number would inspire a sale. Katherine and Katie talk with Chris…
Trans Awareness Week (November 13 – 19) is a time for transgender and gender nonconforming individuals and their allies to take action by advocacting around the issues of prejudice, discrimination, and violence that transgender individuals face. Transgender Day of Remembrance occurs November 20, when trans advocates raise awareness of the transgender community through education and advocacy activities. Since 2008, the Transgender Emergency Fund (TEF)…
Paco de Leon, founder of the Hell Yeah Group, joins The 411k to talk about her new book Finance for the People. In this episode, we talk with Paco about what it means to have financial dignity and also how to shift our money mindsets. Paco describes her continuous process of “falling down the stairs,”…
Rachel and Rebecca Pino are a mother and daughter duo providing women with sound financial advice. Rachel (the mom of the duo) runs her family’s financial firm as CFO. Raising Rebecca, she instilled financial advice in her daughter. In between sharing family money stories, Rebecca and Rachel teach us how to shop for a financial…
Hustle culture… Gig economy… Quiet quitting… the Great Resignation… Burnout… These are phrases we are seeing more and more in the news so we brought in an expert to talk through what this really means. Jinny Uppal has 20+ years of experience driving transformational growth by challenging existing norms in business. She joins The 411k…
Chelsea Brennan, the founder of Smart Money Mamas, is an ex-hedge fund manager turned financial educator. She joins The 411k to talk about money – specifically how to talk about money with kids. Kids are always watching! Even without talking about money, they pick up money habits from those around them – especially parents. Chelsea…
We talk a lot on the show about how emotional money can be and we hear a lot about money shame, guilt, and grief. But today we want to talk about happiness! Melissa Leong, author of Happy Go Money, joins The 411k to talk about how happiness and money are intertwined. Melissa challenges Katie, Katherine…
For those of us in our twenties and thirties now, we are the first generation that statistically speaking will likely spend more years in retirement than we did in the workforce. So it’s time we start preparing for our Golden Years! Manisha walks us through the retirement basics and encourages all of us to take…
Interested in more from Jason? Check out our 411k bookclub for more information on his book, The Restart Roadmap.
Allison Baggerly, founder of Inspired Budget, joins The 411k to share her money story. After an unexpected pregnancy, Allison and her husband decided it was time to get their finances in order. They learned how to budget and came up with a plan to become debt-free. Now, Allison helps women get their finances in order…
We really enjoyed this conversation with Kristina Tubera, founder of Femme Finance NYC, about the volatile world of cryptocurrencies and NFTs. Kristina teaches Katie and Katherine about blockchain and how these investments can open doors for the every day investor.
REPLAY! Check out one of The 411k original interviews! In this episode, we talk with our favorite accountability coach, Shannon McLay, founder of The Financial Gym. She shares her money story and how she started helping clients get “financially fit.” The Financial Gym pairs you with a Financial Trainer to help create a financial plan…
REPLAY! This is one of the original 411k interviews and it is still one of our favorites. Bari Tessler Linden, M.A., is a Financial Therapist, Mentor Coach, Mama-preneur, and the Founder of The Art of Money. Her methodology weaves together personal, couple, and creative entrepreneurial money teachings into one complete tapestry. The Art of Money…
Aleksandra Medina and Katrin Kaurov join The 411k to talk about their startup, FRICH, and how they are making money social! These Gen-Z co-founders created an app so that friends can be accountability partners for one-another. Katie and Katherine ask them all about why being transparent and social about money is important to them as…
Tanja Hester joins The 411k to discuss her new book Wallet Activism which teaches all of us how to be more intentional with our money. Wallet Activism, sometimes referred to as “vote with your dollars,” touches on all the different ways that we can align our money with our values – how to identify the…
Jully-Alma Taveras also known online as Investing Latina, is a Plutus Award-winning bilingual (spanish) personal finance expert. She is a Dominican Republic-born immigrant living in New York that went from being a shopaholic to a smart spender and diligent investor. In this episode, we discuss the pressure of being the first in your family to…
Ashley Feinstein Gerstley, founder of The Fiscal Femme, joins The 411k to introduce her second book, Financial Adulting! This book is more than just your average guide to finances. In this episode, she shares what makes this book different, what inspired her to write it, and what are the financial lessons that we continue to…
Chris DiOrio, Chief Procurement Officer for Staples and Professor at Boston College, joins The 411k to share his salary negotiation tools. Chris shares his experience and even helps us practice ‘the’ conversation with a boss.
Nicole Noonan, CEO of New Chapter Capital Inc., joins The 411k to discuss divorce funding. Nicole is a nationally recognized divorce expert and shares her experience helping families solve financial disputes. In the United States, we hear that more than half of all marriages end in divorce. With second marriages in the U.S., the divorce…
Miracle Olatunji is a public speaker, content creator, entrepreneur, and author of Purpose: How To Live and Lead With Impact. She is the founder of OpportuniMe, a mission-driven company which helps people and organizations to realize and reach their full potential. She is also building Her Wallet Media, an inclusive and shame-free coaching and financial…
What a difference a year makes! Katie and Katherine discuss the life events and big financial moves they’ve made over the last year. As a reminder, our hosts are not know-it-all experts. They are living and learning as they go. In this episode, they share some successes, some strange turns, and a few mistakes that…
Amanda Holden, aka Dumpster Doggy, joins The 411k to get real about investing. Starting at 21, everyone is telling you to start putting money into a retirement account. Yes, we know that we are in a retirement crisis but there is so much more that we can learn about how to make our investments work…
Jen Smith, creator of ModernFrugality.com, joins The 411k to talk about what it means to live a frugal life in the modern world. Yes, being frugal can mean saving $5 at the grocery store by shopping sale item but this conversation centers around the big frugal moves like moving to a more affordable city, buying…
Erin Chase, founder of the blog 5 Dollar Dinners, is on a mission to help busy, overwhelmed home chefs learn to spend less money on groceries. Erin joins The 411k to talk food budgets and how to save money on groceries, so that you can do more with the rest of your budget. You can…
Ashley Yesayan joins The 411k to talk venture capital! She’s been on both sides of the money. Ashley spent 15 years building and scaling high-growth venture backed technology companies and now, she is the entrepreneur getting funded! Today, Ashley is the founder and CEO of OneVillage, a marketplace connecting cancer patients and their supporters with…
Danielle Evans, aka Dollars with Dani, joins us to share her wisdom on how to research market salaries and negotiate a job offer to get what you want. The job market is hot right now and economists are calling this period The Great Resignation. With people transitioning jobs in record numbers, it is critical to…
Jennifer Barrett, the Chief Education Officer at Acorns, is an expert at helping women shift their money mindsets and take control of their finances. She is also the author of “Think Like a Breadwinner,” a manifesto for the working woman, with tips on building wealth and finding balance. Barrett joins The 411k in this episode…
Christina Cartwright is a money coach helping marginalized professionals avoid workplace microaggressions via financial freedom. In this episode, she shares her lived experiences with negotiating, being an activist in the corporate world and pursuing wealth as a form of freedom. Every dollar saved and invested is one step closer to retirement or being able to…
Britny Lawhorn joins The 411k to teach us how to make informed decisions throughout the home-buying process. Buying a home is often the biggest financial decision that a person makes and so it’s important to understand as much as you can about the factors that impact that purchase. In this episode, we are talking specifically about what a first-time buyer should know about mortgages.
In this episode, we talk with Sally Helgesen about her book How Women Rise. This book outlines twelve habits holding women back from their next raise, promotion or job. In this episode, we talk about the habit holding us back and how we can overcome them.
Rodney Sinclair, the owner and operator of Sinclair Real Estate Group, joins The 411k to share advice for first-time home buyers. We are seeing a turbocharged housing market right now with prices surging and home on the market selling quickly and far above the listing price. Rodney joins us to share real examples of what he’s seeing in the market right now and how first-time home buyers are staying competitive.
Melody Wright understands that a financial plan isn’t one size fits all! In this live episode with Ithaca College’s Women in Finance and POC in Finance groups, she talks about her new book, Start Here, a personal finance guide to move past living paycheck to paycheck. When faced with $212K of debt that didn’t include their mortgage, Melody used the analytical skills learned from her time in science to develop a framework that helped her family pay off over $100,000 in debt in less than three years. Now she’s living her version of a Rich Life! Through bold conversations, coaching, and the creation of strategic money management systems, she has helped thousands of people stop being Aimlessly Broke and transform their mindset, behaviors, and practices related to money.
Naseema McElroy is the founder of Financially Intentional, a platform about personal finance and living life intentionally, as well as the host of the podcast, Nurses on FIRE. Naseema joins to share her personal money story. Like many health professionals, Naseema found herself with a lot of student loans and even though she got a great job, she was still living paycheck to paycheck. In this episode, she shares how she break the cycle, paid off over $1 million in debt, and grew a six-figure net worth in just 3 years without living in deprivation.
With over 20 years of experience guiding individuals and small businesses through the confusing world of credit, Gerri Detweiler joins us to debunk some credit myths and teach us some best practices for credit cards.