The Unchurching Podcast: Recent Episodes

Richard Jacobson

Right now millions of believers are leaving the organized church, without abandoning their faith. Join Richard Jacobson, author of Unchurching: Christianity Without Churchianity, and his good friend, Gunnar Falk, as they discuss real life experiences in genuine spiritual community, outside the box.

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In season 1, episode 44, we interviewed Amy Orban about her new house church. Now that her church community is a year old, we wanted to check in again. To hear our first interview with Amy, click here: http://unchurching.libsyn.com/044-amys-church-adventure

Also, to check out the new Unchurching Patreon page, click here: https://www.patreon.com/unchurching

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After an unplanned hiatus, The Unchurching Podcast is back for a second season! In this episode, Richard and Gunnar bring everyone up to speed on what happened during the break, and share some plans for the upcoming year. Below are the links for some of the things mentioned in this episode.

The Unchurching online comic book: http://www.unchurching.com/comic

The Unchurching forum hosted at GCC in Grafton Ohio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4U4dt-7wxI

The conference in Sacramento where Richard will be speaking: https://www.onebody.life/conference

Also, it’s worth mentioning there's now an Unchurching Patreon page for listeners who want to help support The Unchurching Podcast, the various Unchurching media projects and meetup events.

It only costs as little as $2 a month to sing up and you’ll get access to a lot of cool exclusive content. Please check it out! Here’s the link: https://www.patreon.com/unchurching

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In this episode, we listen to a discussion between two previous guests of the show, Henry Hon and Temidayo Adeyemo, as they differentiate between a “church” and an “ekklesia”.

You can check out more episodes of Henry’s podcast, One Body Life, on iTunes, or listen online here: https://soundcloud.com/onebodylife/

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In this episode of The Unchurching Podcast, we share an episode of The Church of the Heart Podcast by Dan Mayhew.

You can find Dan’s podcast online here: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/church-of-the-heart

Or on iTunes here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-church-of-the-heart-podcast/id1168776610?mt=2

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The Kickstarter campaign for my new comic book, Why Christians Don't Need to Go to Church, ends Monday. And this may be your only chance to get printed copies, so check it out!

For more info, visit the Kickstarter page here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/richardjacobson/unchurching-comic-book?ref=9pvhbc

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Richard addresses five misconceptions he's encountered about his book, Unchurching: Christianity Without Churchianity.

To learn more about unchurching, please go to: http://www.unchurching.com

To learn more about the Unchurching Comic Book, please go to: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/richardjacobson/unchurching-comic-book/

To check out the book, Unchurching: Christianity Without Churchianity, please go to: https://www.amazon.com/Unchurching-Christianity-Churchianity-Richard-Jacobson/dp/0692749950/

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Make sure to check out the Kickstarter campaign for the Unchurching comic book project here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/richardjacobson/unchurching-comic-book?ref=9pvhbc

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In this special one year anniversary episode, Richard and Gunnar reflect on the previous year, and look forward to some big things in the coming year.

To find out more about the Kickstarter mentioned in this episode, visit: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/richardjacobson/unchurching-comic-book?ref=9pvhbc

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Richard and Gunnar interview Richard’s cousin, Angela Burns, about her childhood experience with the Jesus Movement, as well as her amazing music.

Make sure to check out Angela’s worship album, Deeper Than the Blue: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/deeper-than-the-blue/id1142096307 

As well as her singer / songwriter album, Arbitrary Mind: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/arbitrary-mind/id598103816 

You can also keep up with Angela on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AngelaBurnsMusic/

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In this episode, Keith Giles returns to the show to share some amazing stories from his house church’s motel ministry, and some insights about where they’re headed next.

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In this episode, Richard talks with Jason and Alex from Not Your Pastor’s Podcast, to find out how a year of podcasting has reshaped their concept of church and ministry.

To check out the two-part interview they did with Richard on their podcast, see the links below.

Unchurching with Author Richard Jacobson, Part 1:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/08-unchurching-with-author-richard-jacobson-pt-1/id1132867824?i=1000376614660&mt=2

Unchurching with Author Richard Jacobson, Part 2: 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/09-unchurching-with-author-richard-jacobson-pt-2/id1132867824?i=1000376937276&mt=2

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In this episode, Richard breaks from the normal format, and teaches about experiencing a deeper revelation of Christ through other believers. As examples, he looks at unique revelations that were imparted to Paul, Peter, and John.

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Here’s part two of our interview with Henry Hon, author of One: Unfolding God's Eternal Purpose from House to House. You can find Henry’s book on Amazon, here: https://www.amazon.com/One-Unfolding-Eternal-Purpose-House/dp/1536914347/

Also, make sure to check out the One Body Life website here: https://www.onebody.life

To hear Henry’s previous conversation with Richard, on the One Body Life podcast, you can listen through SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/onebodylife/jacobson-podcast2

Or iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/007-one-churching-unchurching-one-fellowship-among/id1190466432?i=1000382793176&mt=2

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In this episode, Richard talks to Steve Simms and Keith Giles about their upcoming Unconference Nashville event. This is the followup to Episode 43: Getting Together, which you can listen to here: http://unchurching.libsyn.com/043-getting-together

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Here’s part one of our interview with Henry Hon, author of One: Unfolding God's Eternal Purpose from House to House. You can find Henry’s book on Amazon, here: https://www.amazon.com/One-Unfolding-Eternal-Purpose-House/dp/1536914347/

Also, make sure to check out the One Body Life website here: https://www.onebody.life

To listen to Henry’s previous conversation with Richard, on the One Body Life podcast, you can use SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/onebodylife/jacobson-podcast2

Or iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/007-one-churching-unchurching-one-fellowship-among/id1190466432?i=1000382793176&mt=2

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Check out this fascinating interview with an Unchurching Facebook group member, Amy Orban, who is currently pursuing ordination, while unchurching at the same time.

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After a meetup with some unchurching folks in Charlotte, Richard and Gunnar share a recent call with Keith Giles and Steve Simms, discussing the upcoming Unconference and more. To learn more about the Unconference, click here.

To learn more about Steve Simms, please visit these links:

Beyond Church: The Lost Word Of The Bible - Ekklesia

Episode 8: Can institutions unchurch? Part 1 of 2

Episode 9: Can institutions unchurch? Part 2 of 2

Bonus episode: Steve Simms

To learn more about Keith Giles, please visit these links:

Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics to Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb

Episode 25: Crucifying our politics Part 1 of 2

Episode 26: Crucifying our politics Part 2 of 2

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This week, we talk with Jessica Crichlow, a member of the Unchurching Community on Facebook. She recently made a trip to Nashville and visited Richard and Gunnar’s church community, where God clearly had something special planned for her.

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Richard and Gunnar interview Forrest Head, Director of North America for Big Life. You can learn more about Big Life here: https://big.life and take part in the Zume Project by going here: https://www.zumeproject.com

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After hearing Jesus Stories Part 1 (the last bonus episode), our good friend Gillian pulled her car off to the side of the road, and recorded this incredibly powerful, unscripted testimony. You do not want to miss this one!

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One popular analogy for the journey out of the organized church is the Israelites' journey out of Egypt. Richard and Gunnar deconstruct that analogy, and uncover some implications that often go overlooked.

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Finally, Richard and Gunnar tackle the number one recurring question they receive from listeners.

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In this episode, you'll hear a wide variety of personal stories from various listeners of The Unchurching Podcast. If have a story you would like to share on the show, please go to http://www.unchurching.com/stories for more info.

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In this episode, Richard and Gunnar tackle a few more questions from members of the Unchurching Facebook group.

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A few months ago, we tackled some big myths about pastors. That episode was so popular, and we got so many followup questions, we decided to make a sequel, tackling some more myths about this imaginary church position.

If you haven’t heard it yet, make sure to check out the previous episode, Senior pastor myths, here: http://unchurching.libsyn.com/017-senior-pastor-myths

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035 A talk with Milt Rodriguez

Richard and Gunnar talk with long-time church planter Milt Rodriguez about what makes some organic church communities more fruitful than others.

If you’re interested in the conference mentioned in this episode, you can find out more here: http://www.tothesaints.com/event-inforegistration/

Also, if you’d like to get Milt’s free ebook about planting organic churches, click here: http://miltrodriguez.com/1185

And be sure to check out Milt’s blog!

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Richard and Gunnar interview Mark and Elsa Eikema, founders of the rapidly growing De Kerklozen Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/dekerklozen/

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Richard and Gunnar tackle a tough question from one of our listeners.

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Author Skeeter Wilson talks about being an American who lived outside America until he was 19, and how that affected his perspective on American Christianity and the way we do church.

You can find Skeeter’s website here: http://lensandpenspublications.com/

His book, Crossing Rivers, is on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Rivers-Agikuyu-Skeeter-Wilson/dp/0692738819/

And his book, Worthless People, is on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/worthless-people-Skeeter-Wilson/dp/0615904955/

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Richard and Gunnar interview Temidayo “Dayo” Adeyemo, a church planter in Nigeria. Dayo not only discusses the work he’s doing with various house churches, but also shares his perspective on what it means to “disciple the nations” as Jesus commanded in Matthew 28.

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Richard asks Gunnar about a very encouraging post he shared recently with the Unchurching Facebook group. If you’ve felt discouraged lately, you should definitely listen to this episode!

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Richard and Gunnar interview two families who have embarked on a co-housing journey together, in order to experience continuous Christian community.

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Richard and Gunnar interview Renee Roederer, a minister who organizes a meetup for Nones and Dones in Ann Arbor, Michigan: https://www.meetup.com/Nones-Dones-Building-Community-and-Friendship/

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Richard and Gunnar interview former vocational pastor, Kenny Burchard, about his unchurching journey. Kenny is one of the primary contributors at ThinkTheology.org. You can find his feature page on the site here: http://thinktheology.org/author/kburchard/

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Richard and Gunnar conclude their interview with Keith Giles, author of Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics to Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb. You can find out more about Keith’s book here: http://www.jesusuntangled.com

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Richard and Gunnar interview Keith Giles, author of Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics to Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb. You can find out more about Keith’s book here: http://www.jesusuntangled.com

Also, check out Keith interview on Not Your Pastor’s Podcast: https://notyourpastorspodcast.com/2017/01/19/e018/

And his interview on the Halfway There podcast: http://ericnevins.com/podcast/halfwaythere/035/

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Richard and Gunnar interview blogger Mark Lake about the difference between church communities that rely on a pastor to express Christ to the group, versus church communities where the group expresses Christ together.

To read the post that inspired this interview, check out Mark’s blog here: http://www.marklake.org/expressing-christ-in-organic-church/

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Richard and Gunnar offer words of encouragement, joy, and hope for all believers, but especially for those who are unchurching.

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In this episode, Richard and Gunnar tackle a few different questions from members of the Unchurching Facebook group. Also, we reference a roundtable discussion between Neil Cole, Jon Zens, Keith Giles, Dan Herford, and Richard Jacobson, regarding decision-making in non-institutional churches, which you can find here: https://youtu.be/bIovV6uwwpM

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In this episode, Richard shares excerpts from the following podcasts:

Life Uncut: “Unchurching” with Richard Jacobson
http://lifeuncut.libsyn.com/-episode-54-richard-jacobson

Snarky Faith: UNCHURCHING PART 1
http://snarkyfaith.com/2016/11/08/unchurching-part-1/

Snarky Faith: A POST-ELECTION MESS AND UNCHURCHING PART 2
http://snarkyfaith.com/2016/11/18/post-election-mess-unchurching-part-2/

Pancake’s House: Richard Jacobson
http://www.pancakeshouse.net/pancakes-house-podcast/2016/7/19/episode-two-richard-jacobson-1

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Richard and Gunnar interview Carrie Walters, regarding her amazing article for 3rdRace.org, about how to deal with offenses. You should definitely check out Carrie’s original article here: http://3rdrace.org/body-life-101-offenses/

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Richard and Gunnar examine gender inequality in the church, in this second part of their interview with Jon Zens, author of What’s with Paul and Women? You can order his book here: https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Paul-Women-Jon-Zens/dp/0976522292/

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In this episode, Richard and Gunnar interview Jon Zens, author of A Church Building Every 1/2 Mile: What Makes American Christianity Tick? https://www.amazon.com/Church-Building-Every-Mile-Christianity/dp/097652225X/

Jon shares some mind-blowing insights about Christ’s relationship to his church. To explore these ideas further, check out Jon’s YouTube videos here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLImBHw_HSjqjG701IbM-fA/videos?flow=grid&sort=da&view=0

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Did the early church have senior pastors? Do we need senior pastors to teach us the Bible, or to help us discern sound doctrine? The answers might surprise you.

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Is it rebellious to question the way we do church? And is it rebellious to leave the organized church?

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We asked the 1,500+ members of the Unchurching Facebook group what question they wanted us to tackle next, and the number one answer was, “How can we spread unchurching groups around the world?”

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Richard and Gunnar discuss the benefits and limitations of online community, online churches, and using technology to supplement real-world church community.

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What if a husband or wife wants to unchurch, but their spouse doesn’t? Also, how do you maintain friendships with believers in the institutional church, once you start unchurching? In this episode, Richard and Gunnar interview their wives, Beth and Danielle, about these questions and more.

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In this episode, Richard shares excerpts from the following podcasts:

Halfway There: Unchurching with Richard Jacobson
http://ericnevins.com/podcast/halfwaythere/015/

Not Your Pastor’s Podcast: Unchurching Part 1
https://notyourpastorspodcast.com/2016/10/14/unchurching-part-1-episode-8/

Not Your Pastor’s Podcast: Unchurching Part 2
https://notyourpastorspodcast.com/2016/10/21/unchurching-part-2-episode-9/

Outside the Walls: The Movement featuring Richard Jacobson, Author of Unchurching
https://soundcloud.com/user-784384318/episode-010-the-movement-featuring-richard-jacobson-author-of-unchurching

Inglorious Pasterds: Unchurching w/ Richard Jacobson
http://ingloriouspasterds.podbean.com/e/035-unchurching-w-richard-jacobson/

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Readers of Unchurching often send emails, asking how to write, self-publish, and market their own book. This episode attempts to answer their most common questions. The resources mentioned can be found at: http://www.unchurching.com/publishing

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Richard and Gunnar debunk some popular myths that claim house church isn't a good way to do church.

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Richard and Gunnar debunk some popular myths that claim the organized church model is a good way to do church.

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Richard and Gunnar conclude their interview with Steve Simms, and discuss his book, Beyond Church: The Lost Word Of The Bible – Ekklesia. This is part 2 of 2 of that interview.

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In this special bonus episode, Richard and Gunnar interview Steve Simms about his personal journey which eventually lead him to write the book, Beyond Church: The Lost Word Of The Bible – Ekklesia.

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Can organized churches function like biblical church communities? Richard and Gunnar pose this question to Steve Simms, author of Beyond Church: The Lost Word Of The Bible – Ekklesia. This is part 1 of 2 of that interview.

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Big organized churches often try to emulate the churches we read about in the Bible through some kind of small group program. But is a small group truly similar to a New Testament church community?

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If unchurching communities are more biblical, then why do so many believers resist this way of doing church? Join Richard and Gunnar in their first Q&A episode, as they tackle this question. Also, if you have a question, please send it in!

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Can any group of believers call themselves a church? Join Richard and Gunnar as they interview church planter, Thomas Fortson. This is part 3 of 3 of that interview.

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Are we pursuing God’s idea of church or our own? Join Richard and Gunnar as they interview church planter, Thomas Fortson. This is part 2 of 3 of that interview.

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An organized church can be built but a genuine church community must be birthed. Join Richard and Gunnar as they interview church planter, Thomas Fortson. This is part 1 of 3 of that interview.

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In this episode, Richard asks Gunnar to share his experiences with unchurching communities, as well as insights about how they differ from organized churches. We also learn about the sacrifices Gunnar and his family had to make, in order to find their current church community.

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This episode is a must, as it introduces Richard Jacobson, author of Unchurching: Christianity Without Churchianity, his good friend Gunnar Falk, and the whole idea of unchurching. If you're done with organized church but not done with God, you won't want to miss this first episode of The Unchurching Podcast.