Mother Dearest Show: Recent Episodes

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View Episode 15: I'll Give You Something to Cry About

Jacob gives a bit of update about his Ph.D. and where he is at in the process. They use the OSHO Zen Tarot deck to pull the 4 of Fire, Participation card. They talk about learning to be in the moment, Judy’s sister’s polio and her other sister that died of a brain tumor and the impact of that on their family.

Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction and Jacob’s Ph.D. dissertation proposal process and progress

07:12 Pulling the 4 of Fire - Participation from the OSHO Zen Tarot

17:26 Some of the challenges and trauma’s faced growing up

37:24 Judy’s realization about wanting to be a social worker

Links * CIIS Human Research Review Committee application process * Nurturing Our Humanity: How Domination and Partnership Shape Our Brains, Lives, and Future by Riane Eisler and Douglas P. Fry on Amazon Books * Osho Zen Tarot: The Transcendental Game Of Zen (79-Card Deck and 192-Page Book) * How to Love Yourself Cards: A Deck of 64 Affirmations: Hay, Louise: 9781401954444: Amazon.com: Books * An article with a good overview for restorative justice practices in the classroom - Clifford, A. (2013). Teaching restorative practices with classroom circles. 64 pages. http://restorativejustice.org/am-site/media/teaching-restorative-practices-with-classroom-circles.pdf * Polio - Wikipedia * Brain tumor - Wikipedia

The OSHO Zen Tarot Card 4 of Fire: Participation.

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View Episode 14: The Temperature Bacteria Grows In

Jacob and Judy use Rider Waite/Pathfinder Tarot Deck to pull the XI Justice and the Kind of Pentacles. They talk about the process of the new moon, and it is a time for planting seeds and thinking, and how Judy is working on slowing down. They speak of ecology and climate change, building relationships, building rapport with kids, and thinking about healthy eating.

Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction and how long it has been since we last recorded

02:26 New moon tomorrow. slowing self down

07:24 Drawing the XI Justice and the King of Pentacles and ecology

14:28 Some Family Updates

20:44 Judy’s Plan to Connect Individually with Grand Kids

27:46 Healthy eating and foods

Links * Rider Waite Tarot * An example of an article talking about the idea of a New Moon - A time of renewal and planting seeds * Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World - Cal Newport * List of some of my Academic Essays * Libra (astrology) - Wikipedia * Justice (Tarot card) - Wikipedia, King of Coins - Wikipedia * Story by Anna King through Columbia River Toxic Algae: Experts Say Fix What’s Causing It - Northwest Public Broadcasting * Climate change and dangerous waters - by Washington State Department of Health - Public Health Connection - Oct, 2021 - Medium * An article from a month and a half after we record this episode, but it is still going on. Volcanos in Spain: La Palma volcanic eruption is now the longest seen on the island in 375 years - Spain - EL PAÍS English Edition * Wapato, Washington - Wikipedia * My sister-in-law did end up passing away soon after recording this. I ended up creating a video for my family Recuredos en Vida de Patricia del Villar Martinez - YouTube * Bubble tea - Wikipedia, I often take the kids to the TeaHaus - Facebook * What Is Delicata Squash?

A photo of Jacob and Judy in Mexico when they went with their family Friend they talk about. Jacob doesn’t have any digital versions of photos from that trip other than this one.

Photo of the XI Justice and the King of Pentacles cards from the Rider Waite Tarot Deck in the grass

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View Episode 13: Responsibility and Freedom

Spend some time talking about Jacob’s next steps in working on his Ph.D.. They use OSHO Zen Tarot Deck to pull the Page of Water: Understanding card. They talk about the five gates of grief and Judy’s upcoming retreat she is facilitating. They also talk about the Black Lives Matter movement and a book relating the treatment of Black Americans in the US and various caste systems around the world.

Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction and Long Service Times 01:56 Jacob’s Dissertation Progress and Seattle Trip 09:16 Pulling the Page of Water card from the OSHO Zen Tarot deck: Understanding 14:28 Judy’s upcoming grief retreat 22:24 The “Caste” System in the US

Links Sorry some connection / sound problems with this episode. Also, was originally recorded back in August so I’m still a little bit behind in posting these.

• Frost Me Sweet
• Osho Zen Tarot: The Transcendental Game Of Zen (79-Card Deck and 192-Page Book)
• The Wild Edge of Sorrow: The Sacred Work of Grief by Francis Weller’s Website and via Amazon Books
• Ashley Gregory provides a good Brief Introduction to the Five Gates of Grief — Holistic and Somatic Therapy
• Isabel Wilkerson book Amazon.com: Caste (Oprah’s Book Club): The Origins of Our Discontents eBook : Wilkerson, Isabel: Kindle Store
• You can read an article about it on NPR America’s ‘Caste’ System: Isabel Wilkerson Says It’s More Than Racism
• Climate change: IPCC report is ‘code red for humanity

The Page of Water - Understanding from the OSHO Zen Tarot Deck

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View Episode 12: What Happens When They Drive Your Dream Car Off a Cliff

Jacob and Judy start off with some conversation about upcoming events and activities. They use the Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards to pull the 8: Community (Tribe) Card. They talk all about forgiveness. How do we help clients learn to forgive, how do we forgive ourselves, and helping our kids learn to forgive?

Time Stamps 00:00 Events and Activities Coming Up

03:26 Pulling the Oracle Divination Cards 8: Community (Tribe) Card

08:06 The Dichotomy of Fear vs Love

12:54 Helping Clients Learn To Forgive

21:54 Accepting Our Own Humanness and Fallibilities

24:00 How Judy Raised Jacob

Links I’m still going through old episode, this one was from the end of July.

• Allied Art Association’s - Art in the Park
• Pasco, WA (PSC) - Amtrak
• McNary National Wildlife Refuge - U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services
• Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards: Ask and Know by Colette Baron-Reid
• E-06 - The Right People at the Right Time We pulled the same card.
• Apple Podcasts to Leave us a Rating
• Marianne Williamson and her 365 Days of a Course in Miracles
• An interesting article about Love Vs. Fear: A Scientific Look by Dr. Alex.
• i couldn’t find a specific article talking about a 15 step method. Psychology Today has an article 9 Steps to Forgiveness by Michel in 2013. There is a book review/summary by Sutton regarding Enright and Fitzgibbons (2000) book Helping clients forgive: An empirical guide for resolving anger and restoring hope. You can read the summary at The Enright Process Model of Psychological Forgiveness
• Object permanence
• Cornish, A., & Doucleff, M. (2019, March 4). Storytelling instead of scolding: Inuit say it makes their children more cool-headed. National Public Radio. https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/689925669/storytelling-instead-of-scolding-inuit-say-it-makes-their-children-more-cool-hea
• Parables of Jesus on Wikipedia
• The Tale of Two Wolves - Nanticoke Indian Association

Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Tarot - 8 Community (Tribe)

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View Episode 11: They Were On To Something with that Yoga Thing

Jacob and Judy use the OSHO Zen Tarot Deck to pull the Page of Fire - Playfulness. They talk about the values of playfulness and how hard it is sometimes for adults to have a real spirit of playfulness. They also talk about different seasons they like and having done martial arts in Jacob’s younger years.

Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction and my mom is worried about how much sun I might get

04:58 Pulling the Page of Fire Card - Playfulness

15:36 What we enjoy about different seasons

21:00 Practicing martial arts

Links I’m still a bit behind in posting. This one is from mid July. We spent about a month not posting / recording so I only have about three that I haven’t posted yet…

• Osho Zen Tarot: The Transcendental Game Of Zen (79-Card Deck and 192-Page Book)
• In the episode, I say Colin Wood and I meant to say Colin Wilson
• Gary Lachman was my teacher for The Lost Knowledge of the Imagination that I take at CIIS in the Transformative Studies Department
• The talk that I discuss is Beyond The Robot: Consciousness And Existentialism With Gary Lachman
• Therapy Solutions
• Tai chi chih on Wikipedia
• How to Protect Your Body From Injury in your Tai Chi Chih Practice a presentation that Sara posted.
• Tri-Cities Martial Arts & Fitness
• Kata
• The style of martial arts we did when I was young was Isshin-ryū

A photo of the OSHO Zen Tarot Deck’s Page of Fire Card - Playfulness

A photo of Jacob’s Dog, Chewie Sitting Lazy on the Couch

A photo of Judy in her Karate Gi

A photo of Jacob in his Karate Gi

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View Episode 10: Letting Go

Jacob and Judy start their conversation by talking about the Mercury Retrograde and its effects on communication. They use the Pathfinder Tarot Deck to pull the Card the VIII of Cups and the IV of Wands. They go on to talk about how we let go and the use of psychedelics in treatment and personal growth.

Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction

00:22 Retrograde of Mercury

08:06 Drawing the VIII of Cups and IV of Wands

15:48 The retreat Judy is planning and letting go

19:44 The use of psychedelics in treatment and Jacob’s experience with Ayahuasca

Links * Pathfinder’s Tarot by David Fontana * The Rider Tarot Deck * Farmer’s Almanac with Dates in 2021 of Mercury Retrograde * Article about Mercury Retrogrades in Astrology.com * Episode 2: Connecting with the Divine - Spirituality and Systems Thinking is where we talked about Marianne Williamson and her 365 Days of a Course in Miracles * Episode 6: The Right People at the Right Time is where Judy shared about her Weavers group * Article about the Buddhist idea of letting it go * Therapy Solution * Ram Dass * Gabor Maté’s website * CIIS About the Certificate in Psychedelic-Assisted Therapies and Research * New Experiences & Broken Things, a blog post I wrote about the my experience with Ayahuasca

The Rider Tarot Deck Cards IV of Wands and 8 of Cups

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View Episode 9: Opening a Portal to Connection

Jacob and Judy use OSHO Zen Tarot Deck to pull the 2 of Clouds: Schizophrenia Card. They talk about working towards oneness and interconnection. They also imagine the future and talk about what being in the age of Aquarius means.

Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction

00:28 Pulling the 2 of Clouds: Schizophrenia card

04:16 The concept of oneness

15:06 The Age of Aquarius

17:44 How the world might be different in the next 10 years

Links * Osho Zen Tarot: The Transcendental Game Of Zen (79-Card Deck and 192-Page Book) * Wikipedia article on schizophrenia * Podcast Episode of Forest Wisdom, Mother Trees and the Science of Community by the Bioneers: Revolution From the Heart of Nature * Foundation Series article on Wikipedia. It is a great series and I highly recommend it. I’m looking forward to seeing it on Apple TV+ * Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In song Wikipedia article

• Age of Aquarius general wikipedia article
• Talking about moon cycles in Episode 5 - Completion is Not Final, It’s More of a Phase
• Play Oregon Trail yourself no on Classic Reload or see the Wikipedia article
• Trump says he’ll be President again by August, report says article on MSN by Seth Lemon.

Photo of the OSHO Zen Tarot Decks 2 of Clouds: Schizophrenia

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View Episode 8: How Do We Figure out What We Really Want: Listening to Our Inner Voice

Jacob and Judy use The Rider-Waite Tarot Deck to pull the XVI The Tower_ and the Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards to pull the 33 Chaos and Conflict card. They talk about times of transition and the principle of three. They also talk about motivation and how to help clients connect with some of their desires.

Time Stamps 00:00 Episode 08 of The Mother Dearest Show 00:26 Pulling the XVI The Tower and 33 Chaos and Conflict Cards 02:54 Principle of 3 09:50 How do we Motivate Clients 20:42 Functions of Behavior 24:54 Liberation and Being Who We Are

Links

The Rider-Waite Tarot XVI The Tower Card

The Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards 33 Chaos and Conflict

• Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards: Ask and Know by Colette Baron-Reid
• Pathfinder’s Tarot by David Fontana
• We talk about the phases of the moon and make a reference to Episode 3: The Breaking and Breakthroughs in our Lives
• We talk about the principle of 3. I was unable to find any specifically about that in the same context. The close was some discussion about the Cyclic Universe: Endless Birth, Death, and Rebirth
• Judy mentions our conversation about drawing tarot cards with clients, which we had in Episode 1: Our First Episode - Tarot Cards and EMDR in Counseling.
• We talked about Father Greg Boyle at Homeboy Industries.
• We talked about the functions of behavior. This topic generally comes from Hanley et al.’s (2003) Functional Analysis of Problem Behavior: A Review. The functions of behavior are:
  • Attention (peer / adult)
  • Sensory
  • Escape feeling/tasks
  • Gain agenda or physical control
• Judy is reading/listening to Untamed by Glennon Doyle link to the author website

Reference

Hanley, G. P., Iwata, B. A., & McCord, B. E. (2003). Functional analysis of problem behavior: A review. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 36(2), 147-185. https://doi.org/10.1901/jaba.2003.36-147

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View Episode 7: Some of the Story of My Dad

Jacob and Judy use the OSHO Zen Tarot Deck and pull the major arcana card, II Inner Voice. We talked about listening to our inner voices and how that can look. Judy shares some experiences hearing/following that voice and other times that she did not recognize it. We also spent time talking about the story of Judy and my Dad meeting, starting their relationship, and what led up to the murders he committed.

Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction

00:20 Drawing the II Inner Voice Card

09:44 Talking about my meeting my dad and his story

Links * Osho Zen Tarot: The Transcendental Game Of Zen (79-Card Deck and 192-Page Book) * Safe Babies, Safe Moms Program in Washington State * TCCH BHS * Therapy Solutions * My dad, who we were talking about is Charles Rodman Campbell, you can see some of my writing about my experience About My Story, a Bit of Testimony and The Path to the Ph.D.: Intertwining My Experiences and Research Topic * We spent time talking about getting released from prison and some of the challenges with that. Pager (2003) shares some of the challenges that people face after incarceration. My father wasn’t Black, but all of the problems in the prison system are exacerbated in the Black and ethnic minority communities that it is crucial to understanding. Writing in the Atlantic, Coats (2015) provides some meaningful context to this plight.

Reference

Coates, T.-N. (2015). The Black family in the age of mass incarceration. The Atlantic. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/the-black-family-in-the-age-of-mass-incarceration/403246

Pager, D. (2003). The mark of a criminal record. American Journal of Sociology, 108(5), 937-975. https://doi.org/10.1086/374403

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View Episode 6: The Right People at the Right Time

Jacob and Judy start their talk by taking a couple of moments of silence to center themselves. Judy pulls the number eight - tribe from Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards. They talk about seeing the needs within a community and ourselves and what it is like to start new things. Judy shares about some of the community organizations she has helped create.

00:00 Introduction

01:02 N.0.W Centering Activity

07:26 Pulling the 8 Tribe Card

18:44 Judy’s Connection with the “Weavers” Group

22:18 Being a part of starts of things

• Solu’s N.0.W.. Yoga for your mind. There website has a sample that can be heard, and I have included that in the show so that there were no sound problems.
• Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards: Ask and Know by Colette Baron-Reid
• Riverwalk Wellness is the company I did some website design for, and who does treatments through vibrations.
• Soroptimist International of Pasco-Kennewick Club
• Intercommunity Peace & Justice Center
• Safe Harbor Family Support Center
• My Friends Place
• Elijah Family Homes
• Human Services Coalition

Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards 8: Community. The card deck that my mom has is a different version and in that deck it reads tribe

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View Episode 5: Completion is Not Final, It's More of a Phase

Jacob and Judy pull the Major Arcana card XXI Completion from the Osho Zed Tarot deck. We decide that completion is not always about the specific result but is more of a phase that we go through. There can be many completions that happen. We talk about the need to slow down and look at Judy’s morning ritual as a way of centering herself and connecting with the land. We also discussed our Indigenous ancestors and the land we live on, and how we should be honoring those that came before us.

00:52 Pulling the Osho Zen Tarot XXI Completion

10:34 Developing an Awareness Of Our Current Phase

12:16 Judy’s Morning Ritual

18:30 The Need for Connecting with the Land and Indigenous Ancestors

• Osho Zen Tarot: The Transcendental Game Of Zen (79-Card Deck and 192-Page Book)
• Third Eye on Wikipedia.
• Lunar Phases on Wikipedia
• Marianne Williamson and her 365 Days of a Course in Miracles
• dōTERRA Essential Oils
• Native Land
• California Institute of Integral Studies and the Transformative Inquiry Department where Jacob is working on my Ph.D. They even have a Native Land Acknowledgment
• The CIIS Public Programs Podcast or on Apple Podcasts
• The Good Reads page for Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge, and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall Kimmereron

Photo of the OSHO Zen Tarot Card, Major Arcana XXI Completion

Also, sorry that I was a bit late in getting this episode edited and uploaded. Last weekend with Easter was pretty busy and I got behind.

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View Episode 4: Knowing Ourselves - As Change Agents How We Keep Ourselves Unstuck

Jacob and Judy use Pathfinder’s Tarot deck to pull the Fool Card. They talk about the somatic Writing Class that Judy is taking. As a part of the class, she wrote a short Mantra she shared, following the same format as one Amanda Gorman described using. They also talked more about personality and how our parents impact our temperaments.

00:36 Pulling the Fool Card

02:40 Somatic Writing Exercise and Ancestors

08:02 Our Personalities and its Connection with Our Parents

15:50 How Personality Can Change Over Time

19:16 The Dynamics of Friends and Extended Family

• Pathfinder’s Tarot by David Fontana
• The Fool (Tarot card) on Wikipedia
• Judy is participating in Somatic Writing Prayer Intensive with Tanya Taylor Rubinstein.
• Amanda Gorman website and video of “The Hill We Climb,” her poem she recited at President Joe Biden’s Innagration via C-Span on YouTube
• Video of the Interview with Amanda Gorman and Anderson Cooper on CNN that Judy described. Gorman talks about her Mantra starting at about 7 minutes.
• Enneagram of Personality on Wikipedia
• Myers–Briggs Type Indicator

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View Episode 3: The Breaking and Breakthroughs in our Lives

Judy and Jacob pull the Major Arcana card, breakthrough. They talk about Judy’s time after the Convent in Portland, the breakthroughs and challenges we have in our lives. Judy tells a story about getting into a scary situation while working in a psychiatric unit. We also talk about how experiences growing up can impact us and the need to identify what is happening in our minds.

• Osho Zen Tarot: The Transcendental Game Of Zen (79-Card Deck and 192-Page Book)
• Major Arcana Wikipedia Article
• Father Richard Rohr description at the CAC. He is such a cool priest. I wanted to go to one of his retreats at one point.
• The article I was talking about reading regarding fire is Wrestling with fire: Indigenous women’s resistance and resurgence by Melissa Nelson.

Osho Zen Tarot Major Arcana XI: Breakthrough Card

Judy after first getting her Habit with her father Wilbur Dirks in June of 1966.

Judy in August of 1968 with her mother and siblings after having given her first vows.

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View Episode 2: Connecting with the Divine - Spirituality and Systems Thinking

Jacob and Judy pull from the Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards and get Yang card. We talked about the Course of Miracles, Judy’s time as a Postulant with the Sisters of St. Joseph of Peace. We also talk about silent retreats and connecting without ourselves and systems U-Theory for systems thinking and co-creation.

• Wisdom of the Oracle Divination Cards: Ask and Know by Colette Baron-Reid
• Yin and Yang on Wikipedia and Barron-Reid Post YANG!
• A Course in Miracles
• Marianne Williamson and her 365 Days of a Course in Miracles
• The Sisters of St. Joseph of Peace
• Donna Meadow Systems Thinking Resources
• Presencing Institute Theory U

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View Episode 1: Our First Episode - Tarot Cards and EMDR in Counseling

Jacob and Judy record their first episode of this podcast. We pull the Ace of Water: Going with the Flow from the Zen Tarot Card deck. We talked about using Tarot style cards in individual mental health services, along with her use of EMDR with clients who have a history of trauma.

• You can find the Osho Zen Tarot: The Transcendental Game Of Zen (79-Card Deck and 192-Page Book) that Jacob pulled from during the episode
• Semetsky (2005) writing “Integrating Tarot Readings into Counseling and Psychotherapy” is an interesting article in the Journal of Spirituality and Health International
• You can see more about EMDR

Osho Zen Tarot - Ace of Water: Going with the Flow