The finance industry wants to use artificial intelligence agents to get customers to spend more, faster, bigger...
But AI agents don't mix easily with the security standards that ensure client safety in payments.
For more, listen to the latest episode of Unseen Money from New Money Review, featuring Paul Amery and Timur Yunusov.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, I interview Mordecai Kurz, Joan Kenney professor of economics emeritus at Stanford University.
Kurz, the author of "Private Power and Democracy's Decline", to be published in May 2026, says that it's time to suppress technology firms' market power---or we will lose democracy.
In the podcast, we cover:
In the latest episode of Unseen Money, Timur Yunusov helps Paul Amery unravel a strange real-life story involving a spoofed eBay delivery, Paul’s phone number and a photo of an Indian lady in a pink dressing gown.
The story is part of a rapidly growing form of crime involving so-called “synthetic” identities. In a synthetic identity fraud, criminals create fake online identities by blending real, stolen data with fabricated information. They then use those identities to conduct money laundering and fraud.
In the podcast, we cover:
(00’ 25”) How Paul got a DPD delivery notification for an eBay parcel he hadn't ordered
(1’ 20”) How DPD provided “proof of delivery” to a woman in a pink dressing gown
(2’ 45”) How eBay showed no interest in investigating the transaction
(3’ 15”) Why a synthetic identity combines real and fictitious information
(4’ 40”) How criminals use synthetic identities to decrease online friction
(6’ 40”) Possible use of synthetic IDs in buy now pay later (BNPL) fraud
(7’ 10”) Why synthetic identity frauds don’t fit the standard stolen identity playbook
(7’ 40”) Why synthetic ID cases deserve much greater scrutiny from anti-fraud teams
(11’ 30”) Identity theft (account takeover) and synthetic identities
(13’ 00”) Why synthetic identity fraud has boomed post-COVID
(21’ 40”) AI and machine learning have turbocharged synthetic identity fraud
(23’ 40”) Who’s buying the sets of synthetic IDs?
(24’ 30”) How criminals use synthetic identities in frauds
(29’ 30”) Dead souls, the Russia-Ukraine war and the exploitation of fake identity sets
Tech firms and governments are pushing passkeys as a replacement for online passwords.
They argue that using passkeys will help cut down on fraud, prevent account takeovers and protect against password theft.
But Paul Amery and Timur Yunusov are sceptical that passkeys will take off. Listen to the latest episode of Unseen Money from New Money Review to find out why.
Here’s what we discuss in the podcast:
Last week, Google’s threat intelligence group warned that artificial intelligence (AI) is making malware attacks more dangerous.
[Malware is malicious software—programmes designed to disrupt, damage or gain unauthorised access to computer systems—usually delivered via phishing emails, compromised websites or infected downloads]
“Adversaries are no longer leveraging artificial intelligence (AI) just for productivity gains, they are deploying novel AI-enabled malware in active operations,” Google said in a 5000-word blog.
Are malware programmes using Large Language Models (LLMs) to dynamically generate malicious scripts, obfuscate their own code to evade detection, and leverage AI models to create malicious functions on demand, as Google warns?
Or it this yet another case of tech firms selling solutions to a problem they have created themselves?
Listen to the latest episode of Unseen Money from New Money Review, featuring co-hosts Timur Yunusov and Paul Amery, to hear more about the effect of AI malware.
In the podcast, we cover:
Some people have labelled the recent alliance between Silicon Valley and right-wing populist leaders “techno-fascism”. Is that too strong a term?
No, says Jacob Silverman in the latest New Money Review podcast.
“What do you call it when the highest levels of the corporate world merge with the executive of the government?” Silverman asks in the podcast. “I think that’s corporatism or fascism.”
Silverman is the author of a new book, “Gilded Rage”, in which he chronicles the radicalisation of Silicon Valley.
Focusing on a few central characters—Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, David Sacks and Donald Trump—he poses a question that should concern us all. What happens if the world's richest and most powerful men decide to dismantle democracy?
“I think it’s very worrisome,” says Silverman. “We keep on breaching markers—things that haven’t happened before.”
Listen to the podcast to hear a discussion of:
Long gone are the days when the Escobar family had to spend $2,500 a month on rubber bands to hold the cash they earned trading cocaine.
Now, the invention of cryptocurrency has made money launderers’ life a whole lot easier—or has it?
Investigative journalist Geoff White joins Paul Amery and Timur Yunusov in the latest episode of Unseen Money to discuss:
The decentralised finance (DeFi) market is booming—but the world’s best hackers are on a constant look-out for ways to steal your crypto tokens.
North Korea, which recently committed the largest theft in cryptocurrency history, is probably top of the hackers’ game.
What do crypto users need to know about the risks in this unregulated but fast-growing market?
In the latest episode of Unseen Money from New Money Review, Timur Yunusov and Paul Amery are joined by Arseny Reutov, chief technology officer at Decurity, a security audit and ethical hacking firm specialising in DeFi.
During the podcast, we discuss:
Most scams where the victim is tricked into paying money to fraudsters originate on social media—often on Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp.
But in the UK around one scam in five—and nearly half by the total value stolen—exploits weaknesses in our telecommunications infrastructure.
That could be someone spoofing the number of a legitimate entity, such as the tax office or your bank, when calling you. It could be a scammer exploiting security vulnerabilities in the mobile network to compromise and intercept voice and SMS messages.
In a rapidly rising form of fraud, criminals impersonate the nearest cell phone tower and send messages that look like they’re from your bank or mobile service provider. One click on a link and you’re soon handing over valuable personal information or downloading malware that gives the scammers access to your payment app or crypto wallet.
In the latest episode of Unseen Money from New Money Review, my co-host Timur Yunusov and I are joined by telecom cybersecurity expert Dmitry Kurbatov, chief executive of UK-based company SecurityGen.
In the podcast, Dmitry explains how criminals can spoof a trusted entity’s phone number when calling you. We look at SIM swap frauds and discuss who bears responsibility for the continuing security flaws in mobile networks.
We highlight in which countries users are currently most exposed to mobile phone-based frauds. We look at the recent SK Telecoms breach in South Korea, which exposed the personal and financial data of up to 23 million users. And we describe the ever more ingenious methods being used by scammers to subvert telecoms networks.
Some technical terms used during the podcast:
“SIP trunking” is the digital method of making and receiving phone calls and other digital communication over an internet connection.
“SIP protocol” is a signalling protocol used for initiating, maintaining, and terminating multimedia sessions, including voice, video, and messaging.
“SIM farms” or “SIM boxes” bridge the internet and cellular networks, enabling the routing and redirection of calls or messages through multiple SIM cards.
“Rich Communication Services (RCS)” are a messaging protocol that enhances traditional SMS by offering richer features like multimedia sharing, group chats, read receipts and typing indicators.
“Drive-by smishing” is where fraudsters use fake base stations to force victims’ phones to connect to a fake mobile network and then use SMS messages to distribute malicious links or initiate scams.
In “software-defined radio”, components that are conventionally implemented in analogue hardware (e.g., mixers, filters, amplifiers, modulators/demodulators, detectors) are instead implemented by means of software on a computer.
A “global title” is an address used in SCCP (Signalling Connection Control Part, a network-layer protocol in telecommunications) for routing signalling messages on telecommunications networks.
“SS7” is a set of telecommunications protocols that are used to exchange information between different telephone networks.
“IPX” is a telecommunications interconnection model for the exchange of internet protocol-based traffic between customers of separate mobile and fixed operators.
The UK’s company formation process is fast, easy and cheap. The net result of being open to almost any business is that up to half the companies on the UK’s Companies House register may have no legitimate purpose.
Instead, those companies are used by fraudsters as a vital tool in scams and money laundering schemes. Many are set up using fake identities and addresses. Often, they break the reporting rules and never file accounts. And Companies House has become a honeypot for organised crime groups from around the world.
In the latest episode of the Unseen Money podcast, Timur Yunusov and I are joined by dark money expert Graham Barrow, who has exposed some of the worst failings of the UK’s company formation regime.
Belatedly, the UK government is acting to address those failings. But will new legislation go far and fast enough? Listen to the podcast to find out.
In the latest episode of Unseen Money, Timur Yunusov and Paul Amery talk about the role of QR codes in scams and whether these popular barcodes may lull users into a false sense of security.
Also in this episode:
There’s a big security loophole affecting plastic payment cards—called a replay (or pre-play) attack. Banks have known about this loophole for years. But they may still blame you, the victim, if a scammer makes use of it.
In a 2022 fraud, a former British soldier holidaying in Brazil found that £20,000 had been charged to his bank card in eighteen separate transactions. The ex-soldier, Henry Williams, said he’d only used his card once and that most of the money had been taken from his account without his knowledge.
His bank, a well-known British high street name, initially refused to compensate him, arguing he must have authorised all the payments. Only a year later did the bank agree to refund him—partially and with a grudging apology.
Even after one of the UK’s best-known security experts intervened on behalf of the victim, the UK’s financial ombudsman, which is supposed to settle complaints between consumers and financial services businesses, sided more with the bank.
How does a replay attack occur? Most plastic debit (or credit) cards contain a chip which is used to identify and authenticate the user. The chip comes into action when the user taps the card on a contactless payment terminal (or inserts the card into the terminal and then enters a PIN code).
At this point, the payment terminal generates a number that is supposed to be unpredictable, ensuring that each payment transaction is a fresh one.
Unfortunately, payment terminals can be tampered with and the supposedly unguessable number can be manipulated. This opens the door to replay attacks—and to more paydays for criminals.
As many as half of all payment cards and half of all terminals may be vulnerable to exploitation, says my Unseen Money co-host Timur Yunusov, who demonstrates a card replay attack in this YouTube video.
In the latest episode of Unseen Money from New Money Review, we explore replay attacks: how they occur, why the vulnerability is still there more than a decade after it was exposed, and why the payments industry is so reluctant to address the issue.
We all now use one-time passcodes (OTPs) to verify our identity online.
In the last few weeks, I’ve personally received OTPs from Amazon, Apple, Google, the UK Driving Licence Authority, my pension provider, payments app Yotta, National Savings and parking app Ringgo. Some OTPs were sent to me in text (SMS) messages, others arrived via email.
Identity authentication online using OTPs is much safer than using a single piece of information like a password. But OTPs are not safe, for a number of reasons.
In the latest episode of “Unseen Money” from New Money Review, security researcher Timur Yunusov and I discuss some recent scams that involved stolen OTPs—from a $2m theft from the family of a Moscow teenager to an industrial-scale carding operation in China.
Our story covers the security of mobile networks, tech giants Apple and Google, the business models of criminal masterminds and bagfuls of stolen phones shipped around the world.
The UK prides itself in being open for innovative tech firms—and companies in general—to set up business. It takes only £12—and 15-20 minutes—to create a new company online.
But the laxity of the country’s system for new company formations has made the UK a goldmine for scammers. And the problem is getting worse: fraud, much of it digital, now accounts for over 40 per cent of all recorded crime in England and Wales
In the latest episode of Unseen Money, Timur Yunusov and I discuss a recent Financial Times article about a London-based fraud victim, Livia Giuggioli Firth, who was conned by scammers into sending £325k from her company’s bank account.
Instead of asking for compensation from her own bank for being a victim of an authorised push payment fraud, Ms. Giuggioli Firth took the unusual step of suing the scammers’ bank in court. This forced the disclosure of the names if not of the individual scammers, but of the network of companies they used to launder the stolen money.
The court case unveiled some of the principal weaknesses in the UK’s system for deterring and catching fraudsters.
In the podcast, we discuss:
Want to join Timur and me on a future episode of Unseen Money to talk about how scammers use Companies House registrations to aid their crimes? Drop me a line at paul@newmoneyreview.com.
Having your identity stolen is a catastrophe. You can lose your reputation, your credit rating, your money, your home or even be accused of fraud yourself.
To victims, ID theft feels like a single, earth-shattering event. But it’s likely that the hacker has been stealing different aspects of your identity over time.
Your name, address, email address, phone number, bank account number, passport number, medical records and log-in credentials are all valuable bits of information to hackers. Combined, they may be enough for a digital hit on you and your bank account.
In the latest Unseen Money podcast, Timur Yunusov and I explore the “personally identifiable information” or “PII” that enables hackers to impersonate and rob us.
PII is now traded amongst fraudsters as a commodity. But what kind is most valuable to criminals? Where do they get it? How do they use it in scams? Once we’ve lost our PII, is there anything we can do?
Listen on for more.
In the latest episode of Unseen Money, Timur Yunusov and I discuss how to stop a bad dream turning into a real nightmare: when a phone snatcher has your mobile device and is trying to get hold of your money as well.
We cover:
We also refer to these New Money Review articles in the podcast:
A phone grabber could drain your bank account in minutes
How safe are payment cards?
In the latest episode of Unseen Money, we talk about the recent $4.5 million fraud committed against Ol’ga Serova, a 71-year-old former bureaucrat from Samara, Russia. We discuss:
Last week UK prime minister Keir Starmer said artificial intelligence could help fix potholes, teach our kids and slash the cost of public services.
What he failed to mention is that AI is also a dream come true for scammers.
Listen to the latest episode of Unseen Money as Paul Amery and Timur Yunusov discuss how AI-enabled fraud is rocketing and why.
This is Unseen Money from New Money Review.
I’m Paul Amery and I’m joined by my co-host, security researcher Timur Yunusov.
Unseen money is our journey into the darker corners of digital payments.
For many of us, transferring money is now faster and easier than ever before. It takes a couple of swipes on a smartphone.
But with digital payments have come many new opportunities for criminals.
Perhaps you’ve suffered from a phishing attack, an ID theft or a cryptocurrency scam.
Maybe an online purchase went wrong, but you’re not sure how.
We’re here to investigate—and to report to you in non-technical language.
In this episode of the podcast, Timur and I discuss the UK’s new rules for compensating people who’ve been tricked into transferring money to criminals.
Have the rules deterred the scammers? Or have they just moved on to another type of payment fraud? Listen on for more.
The latest New Money Review podcast focuses on Trump, tariffs, deglobalisation and the currency markets.
My guest, Mark Astley, is a former colleague, a currency and fixed income specialist who recently retired as chief executive of asset manager Millennium Global Investments.
“We are living in an epochal time in the history of exchange rates and trade policy,” Astley says in the podcast.
During the recording, Astley suggests the 53-year experiment with a dollar-based floating exchange rate system may be coming to an end—and he suggests that tariff wars and rising geopolitical turmoil may bring an end to dollar dominance as well.
Listen in for a 30-minute discussion of the backdrop and outlook for global currencies. We cover:
In the last decade, the way we make our payments has become more seamless, faster and cheaper.
We’ve switched from signatures on paper cheques to a few swipes and a tap on a mobile phone.
But with these advances have come massive new opportunities for cybercriminals.
From cons using deception and social engineering to romance fraud, unauthorised transfers, hacks and identity theft, the cat and mouse game between scammers and those policing the payments system has now reached a new level of intensity.
In the latest New Money Review podcast I’m joined to discuss this topic by Steven Murdoch, professor of security engineering at University College, London.
During the podcast, we cover:
When, why and how do countries go bust? That’s the topic of the latest New Money Review podcast, where I’m joined by Greg Makoff, a former physicist, banker, government advisor and now senior fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School.
Makoff is the author of a recent book on what has been called “the most contentious default in history”—Argentina’s 2001-2016 debt restructuring.
In the podcast, we discuss:
Supporters of the $10trn private equity industry say it fuels economic growth and delivers leaner, better-performing companies.
One leading critic of the sector is Ludovic Phalippou, who says that the industry routinely overstates its financial performance. And, he says, private equity funds charge a whopping 6-7% a year in fees, wiping out any potential benefits to investors.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, I interview Phalippou, who is professor of financial economics at Oxford University. We cover:
Want to know what happens when fraud is a core component of your business model?
Want to know how a business idea described as an “economic fairytale” could be valued at $300m?
Want to know how an unknown cryptocurrency exchange could end up with a $1bn a year marketing budget, rivalling that of Microsoft?
Want to know how easy it is to corrupt auditors and journalists with crypto tokens?
All this is in Crypto Confidential, a new book by Jake Donoghue that’s coming out in August 2024.
I read a review copy, really enjoyed it and have invited Jake to talk to New Money Review podcast listeners.
Donoghue describes his book as “a record of the sheer extravagance, excess and absurdity I bore witness to on a daily basis”.
In the podcast we discuss:
In the latest New Money Review podcast, I interview Richard Comotto, a specialist in repo, the multi-trillion dollar marketplace used by large financial institutions to borrow and lend money in the short term.
Richard, who started his career at the Bank of England, works for the International Capital Markets Association (ICMA), for whom he has authored the ICMA “Guide to Best Practice in the European Repo Market”, its website FAQs on repo and the semi-annual survey of the ICMA European repo market, which has been running since 2000.
He has also advised on the development of domestic money and repo markets for bodies such as the Asian Development Bank, the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.
He is also co-founder and chief product officer at London Reporting House, a fintech providing data and analytics on the repo market.
In the podcast, we cover:
The Stoic philosophers said we should manage our emotions when it comes to money and wealth.
But is this a realistic goal? How can we resist the siren call of riches? How can we persevere and stay positive through tough economic times?
In this episode of the New Money Review podcast I’m joined by Donald Robertson, philosopher, psychotherapist and author of best-selling books on how to apply Stoic principles to modern life.
In the podcast, we cover:
Almost half of the crime now committed in the UK is now fraud, most of it taking place online. But only 1% of police resources are devoted to catching the fraudsters.
In the last New Money Review podcast I looked into how to bridge this alarming gap, exploring the mindset of the cybercriminal with my guest Sarah Armstrong-Smith.
In this episode I dig into a small, but disturbing and rapidly growing part of the multi-trillion electronic crime business—romance fraud.
My guest is Dr Elisabeth Carter, a criminologist and forensic linguist who works at the intersection of language and the law.
She’s recently published a book in which she shows how criminal gangs exploit language to lure and then cheat their victims.
Romance fraudsters exploit psychological weak points as well, making it look as if they are on the victims’ side. As a result, when the fraud is exposed, the victim suffers both monetary and psychological harm. Even worse, the rest of us then often blame the victims, says Carter.
Listen in for the next 30 minutes to learn more—and how best to protect yourself.
We cover:
Cybercrime is often more than just a demonstration of hacking skills.
The attacker could be motivated by money, but equally by nationalism, a search for notoriety or revenge. The victim may be random and innocent, but he/she could have been singled out because of an emotional weak spot. Following the crime, other human emotions, such as guilt or shame, may prevent the attack from being disclosed.
So when addressing cybercrime, we need to focus as much on psychology as on technology.
As internet-enabled fraud reaches ever more alarming proportions, in the latest New Money Review podcast I interview Sarah Armstrong-Smith, author of a new book called “Understand the Cyber Attacker Mindset”.
In the podcast, we cover:
We need a new approach to building trust in economic and monetary systems, says Ian Grigg, my guest on the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast.
Grigg, a computer scientist and cryptographer, is one of the pioneers of internet-based money. In the 1990s, he worked on digital cash systems, which applied strong cryptography systems to money transfers.
Grigg also published articles on shared ledgers, triple-entry accounting, proof-of-work systems, smart contracts and social reputation systems well before the emergence of bitcoin.
In the podcast, Grigg talks about the ballooning problems of financial exclusion, money laundering and financial crime. He argues that the current US-driven approach to isolating bad actors and excluding them from the financial system is bound to fail.
Instead, says Grigg, we need to focus on rebuilding identity and money systems from the ground up, using models found in countries where trust in governments and financial institutions is largely absent.
To listen to the podcast, click here.
In it, we cover:
In the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast I’m joined by someone who says we’re in the middle of a historic battle between the public and private sector over money. And it’s one the state can’t afford to lose, he argues.
Our future global money will be digital, cheap and mobile, says Richard Holden, professor of economics at the University of New South Wales, Sydney, Australia, but it may be issued by a tech giant or an emerging economy rather than the Federal Reserve, European Central Bank or Bank of England. And that right to issue money will confer massive power on the winner of the digital currency race.
In his new book, “Money In the 21st Century”, Holden makes a passionate defence of state money and says the US central bank should get its act together and start issuing its own digital money, which he calls Fedcoin.
In the podcast, we cover:
In the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast I’m delighted to welcome Satyajit Das, a former investment banker, derivatives expert and author.
His book “Traders, Guns and Money”, published in 2006, remains one of the best books ever written about the world of high finance.
It’s been called “a wickedly comic exposé of the culture, games and pure deceptions played out every day in trading rooms around the world. And played out with other people’s money.”
Das went on to publish “Extreme Money” and “The Age of Stagnation”, in which a common theme is the high global levels of debt.
In the podcast, Das talks in detail about debt and the complexities of measuring it. He says all financial markets are now at risk from excessive leverage.
Japan, whose currency has recently undergone a big devaluation, may point the way ahead for all of us, he says.
We discuss:
Excitement over the prospects for artificial intelligence (AI) has driven US stock market valuations to a historic high. Can AI technologies deliver on their promise? Or is this yet another case of irrational exuberance?
In the latest New Money Review podcast I am joined by Eric Siegel, a former Columbia University professor who has taught computer science courses in machine learning and AI. Siegel, now a consultant, has just published a new book called “The AI Playbook—Mastering the Rare Art of Machine Learning Deployment”.
In the podcast, we explore some of the paradoxes surrounding AI: why this tech tool with apparently unlimited greatest promise may be the hardest to use, and why computers promising us greater autonomy may in fact require more supervision.
We cover:
Against an uncertain economic backdrop, one industry is booming.
Internet fraudsters are scamming more and more victims worldwide. Using increasingly sophisticated methods, they are now stealing even from the most prepared among us.
But while the number of online frauds and the volumes of money involved are increasing, so are the efforts to stop scammers.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, I’m joined by Simon Miller, director of policy and communications at Stop Scams UK.
In the podcast, we discuss:
If you thought tax was boring, the latest New Money Review podcast will change your mind.
Dan Neidle was a top corporate lawyer for 23 years—ending up as head of tax at London law firm Clifford Chance.
But in 2022 he retired to set up a new think tank called Tax Policy Associates. Its aim is to improve UK tax policy and to improve the public understanding of the subject.
This nerdish-sounding mission statement gave no indication of the political fireworks Neidle’s new venture was shortly to ignite.
In July 2022, he accused then-Chancellor Nadim Zahawi of having avoided £4m in capital gains tax a few years earlier.
It later emerged that Zahawi was under investigation by his own subordinates in His Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC), as well as being the subject of a separate inquiry the National Crime Agency (NCA).
Other campaigners had tried to expose Zahawi in previous years but had been put off by threats of legal action—the UK’s infamous ‘strategic lawsuits against public participation’ (SLAPPs), which often silence investigative journalists.
But when Neidle received similar threats from Zahawi’s lawyers he called the UK Chancellor’s bluff. He went ahead and published his investigations. Zahawi was forced to back down.
In September 2022, incoming UK prime minister Liz Truss replaced Zahawi as Chancellor and gave him another ministerial position. But in January 2023, Rishi Sunak, who had replaced Truss in October, fired Zahawi from the UK government.
Citing the tax investigation which Neidle had been instrumental in bringing to light, Sunak said Zahawi had committed ‘a serious breach of the Ministerial Code’.
Tax Policy Associates’ more recent investigations touch on such sensitive topics as UK inheritance tax, the ‘carried interest’ tax exemption enjoyed by private equity firms and the alleged involvement of the family of another Conservative politician, Michelle Mone, in a cover-up relating to government contracts for personal protective equipment (PPE) during the coronavirus pandemic.
In the half-hour podcast discussion, I quiz Dan Neidle on a number of tax-related topics, including:
Financial markets go up and down. And they usually fall faster than they rise.
But when does normal financial market turbulence tip over into a systemic collapse? How should policymakers prepare and how should they react?
In the latest New Money Review podcast, I interview Steven Kelly, associate director of research at the Yale Programme on Financial Stability. The programme’s mission is to create, disseminate and preserve knowledge about financial crises.
In the podcast, we cover:
In the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast I’m delighted to welcome Tim Congdon, an economist and leading advocate of monetarism.
After a successful career in the City, Tim became founder and chair of the Institute of International Monetary Research at the University of Buckingham.
I’ve followed his work for over three decades.
In the early 1990s, when I was working as a bond fund manager, the UK’s central bank was keeping interest rates at over 10% in an attempt to make sterling shadow the deutsche mark.
Tim forecast that UK interest rates would soon fall from double figures, based on sluggish money supply growth that, in his view, meant a recession was coming.
In the end, the Bank of England had to abandon its exchange rate target, sterling rates fell sharply and—as I had followed Tim’s advice rather than the consensus view—my fixed income clients did very well.
Now we seem to be repeating the same, or at least a similar story.
Listen to the podcast for more. In this episode, we discuss:
We often look at colonial empires as territories gained and occupied by nation states. But across four centuries, colonialism has above all been the business of companies, says my interviewee in the latest New Money Review podcast.
Philip Stern is the author of a new book called ‘Empire, Incorporated’, in which he explores the role of the company in British colonial history.
In it, he argues that corporations conceived, promoted, financed, and governed overseas expansion, making claims over territory and peoples while ensuring that British and colonial society were also invested, quite literally, in their ventures.
Colonial companies were also relentlessly controversial, frequently in debt and prone to failure, says Stern.
Like empire itself, says Stern, the joint-stock company was an elusive contradiction: it was both public and private; person and society; subordinate and autonomous; centralised and diffuse; immortal and precarious; national and cosmopolitan—it was a legal fiction with very real power.
In the podcast, we cover:
Tim Yunusov is hacker with a special interest in banking and payment systems. He’s also written a series of articles on hacking for New Money Review.
He’s been hired by financial institutions to see if he could breach their online banking systems and mobile apps, their card payment systems or their automated teller machines (ATMs).
In many cases he could.
In 2019, for example, he showed how to get around the limit on contactless card payments (£30 at the time in the UK) by altering the information exchanged by the contactless device and the card reader.
In a more recent case, Tim went around UK petrol stations using cryptocurrency-based payment cards and found he could refuel for free.
Tim has also written articles on faking digital identity, how to steal money from buy-now-pay-later (BNPL) schemes and whether someone in possession of your mobile phone can drain your bank account (spoiler: the answer is yes).
His article on BNPL fraud didn’t go down well with one of the main lenders, who complained to me by email that it was “a step-by-step guide that will encourage criminals further in their activity of stealing money from consumers”.
I responded that Tim was showing BNPL’s security flaws in the public’s interest.
But there’s clearly a fine line between ethical hacking and breaching systems with malicious intent. So I asked Tim onto the New Money Review podcast to talk more about his work.
In the podcast, we discuss:
In this episode I’m joined by Kyle Gibson, a senior staff researcher and writer at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Open Learning initiative.
I’ve been following Kyle on Twitter for years, where he has been a consistently funny and well-informed critic of the crazy world of cryptocurrency.
Today he joins the podcast to talk about another tech utopia that’s in the headlines: artificial intelligence or ‘AI’.
Are the claims made for AI overblown? How are AI models developed? What human inputs are required? Who funds AI? What’s the link between AI and cryptocurrency? Can cryptocurrency fix AI? And what’s AI got to do with geopolitics?
Listen in for the next thirty minutes to hear more.
2023 has been a year of bank runs, most notably in the US. What’s going on? And how should we invest in response?
In the latest New Money Review podcast, I talk money, credit, banking and markets with Alex Gloy, founder and chief executive of Lighthouse Investment Management.
Listen in to hear us discuss:
Former banker Sean Tuffy tracks the impact of global financial regulation on the investment business. In recent years he’s been paying a lot of attention to cryptocurrencies, digital assets and tokenisation.
In the latest New Money Review podcast we cover:
Since the coronavirus pandemic, many of us have switched from paying by cash to paying almost exclusively by card or digital wallet.
My guest on the latest New Money Review podcast is someone who argues that, contrary to the mainstream narrative, the boom in digital payments hasn’t benefited either businesses or consumers.
Management consultant Bob Lyddon says that UK payments have become the domain of a technocratic elite, which is working in tandem with big tech firms and the major payment card brands.
According to Lyddon , digital payments have enabled a new kind of fraud, taken an increasing cut of businesses’ revenue and made the use of cash increasingly difficult.
If the UK goes down the road of introducing a central bank digital currency (CBDC)—as most people expect—consumers could suffer further, says Lyddon, while the Bank of England and tech company insiders will become even more powerful.
It’s time to derail the digital payments boom, says Lyddon. Consumers can fight back by paying in cash and dealing only with local businesses.
Listen to the podcast to hear more on:
It’s been a torrid year for investors in cryptocurrency but the worst is not over, says Carol Alexander, my guest on the latest New Money Review podcast.
In 2023 the crash will shift to decentralised finance (DeFi), predicts Alexander.
DeFi, she argues in the podcast, is repeating the mistakes of the centralised crypto lending schemes—like BlockFi, Celsius and Voyager—that faltered this year. And DeFi’s “magic money tree” is bound to fail in the same way, she says.
Alexander is professor of finance at the University of Sussex. Now focusing in her work primarily on crypto markets, she has worked in financial risk management, in mathematical finance and as an econometrician.
She also blogs regularly on crypto, digital money and quantitative finance.
In the podcast we discuss:
An auditor verifies the accuracy of a company’s financial records. He or she is supposed to spot any material misstatements, including those due to fraud or errors.
And yet in two of the largest financial frauds in history—the 2021 collapse of German payment firm Wirecard and the recent bankruptcy of crypto exchange FTX—auditors had placed a stamp of approval on the companies’ accounts.
How did they get things so badly wrong?
To find out how audits can mislead I’m joined on the latest New Money Review podcast by Francine McKenna.
Francine has worked for many years as an auditor and columnist writing about accountancy. She is currently a lecturer on accounting at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton Business School.
Listen to the podcast to hear us discuss:
We are living in the golden age of fraud.
But we’re also in a golden age for data leaks.
In the last six years we’ve seen a cascade of information from places like Panama, Switzerland and Dubai—these are countries where lawyers, accountants and bankers promise secrecy while serving the rich and powerful.
The tens of millions of leaked documents have helped shine light on the financial affairs of the wealthy and well-connected. But they’ve also opened the ill-gotten gains of many corrupt politicians and bureaucrats to public view.
For every money movement through a tax haven, there’s a digital record that can be traced by a growing army of citizen journalists and activists.
In the latest New Money Review podcast I’m joined by someone who’s helped organise that activist army and tell some of their data-driven stories.
Paul Radu is an investigative journalist and co-founder of the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP).
Paul is a winner of the Daniel Pearl Award, the Global Shining Light Award, the European Press Prize, and the Skoll Award for Social Entrepreneurship. He was also part of the Panama Papers team that won the 2017 Pulitzer Prize in Journalism.
When oligarchs, corrupt politicians or criminals seek to move their money out of the public eye, the OCCRP is there to shed light on what they are doing.
This is a global and a growing problem. The amounts being looted are increasing exponentially, reaching trillions a year. The money launderers are becoming ever more sophisticated in hiding what they are doing. There’s a global network of bankers, accountants, lawyers and PR agents supporting them. And in many countries, the oligarchs and criminals are effectively above the law.
This is a topic we should all know something about. Listen in for a fascinating discussion of large-scale financial crime, including:
There are periods in human history when money and foreign policy converge—and this is one of them, says Paul Tucker, my guest on the latest New Money Review podcast.
Tucker, deputy governor of the Bank of England for several years in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis, is now a fellow at Harvard University’s Kennedy school of public policy and government.
During what is his first-ever podcast interview, Tucker talks about his new book, ‘Global Discord: Values and Power in a Fractured World Order’.
In the book, Tucker lays out principles for a sustainable system of international cooperation, showing how democracies can deal with China and other illiberal states without sacrificing their deepest political values.
Drawing on three decades' experience as a central banker and regulator, Tucker applies these principles to the international monetary order, including the role of the US dollar, trade and investment regimes and the financial system.
During the podcast, we discuss:
In his 2017 book, “Before Babylon, Beyond Bitcoin”, David Birch predicted that we would all live in a world of multiple competing currencies.
And communities, said Birch, would be one of the five main future issuers of money (along with four other “Cs”—central banks, commercial banks, cryptographic protocols like bitcoin, and companies).
But community currencies have so far struggled to get off the ground.
In the UK, attempts to launch a local version of the pound in Brixton, Bristol and elsewhere have failed.
Bristol’s subsequent idea to launch a new app called Bristol Pay, which would reward community initiatives, is stuck at the funding stage.
But there are still plenty of attempts to build local money systems from the ground up.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, California-based non-profit and social entrepreneur David Anderson talks about community currencies.
Anderson is president and lead volunteer at Simbi, a California-based non-profit focused on community and individual development.
Simbi provides a web-based community platform to help non-profit projects find and reward volunteers. It aims to promote community development, mutual aid among those in need and the development of individual skills.
In the podcast, we discuss:
By keeping interest rates near zero for over a decade, central banks have created profound economic insecurity and financial fragility.
That’s the argument of financial historian Edward Chancellor, guest on the latest New Money Review podcast.
Chancellor, author of a new book called ‘the Price of Time’, says that extremely low interest rates have caused unsustainable asset price inflation, including the recent bubbles in cryptocurrency and tech stocks.
And near-zero rates, says Chancellor, are also largely responsible for the weak economic growth, rising inequality, zombie companies, elevated debt levels and the pensions crises that have afflicted the West in recent years.
Listen to the podcast to hear Chancellor and New Money Review editor Paul Amery discuss:
Two events in the last fifteen years have fundamentally altered the way the financial system operates—and neither was planned by global policymakers.
The great crash of 2008 stopped banks from extending loans to counterparties without taking any security in return. Henceforth, large credits would require collateral to be posted by the borrower.
And cryptocurrencies have spawned a new form of digital money—the stablecoin—that threatens to torpedo central banks’ control of the monetary system.
One person who has kept a close eye on the role of collateral and stablecoins is Manmohan Singh, a senior economist at the IMF and guest on the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast.
Singh, whose specialist area is the plumbing that underlies our money markets, says getting the design of the system right is crucial to ensure adequate lending and continuing economic growth.
And the stakes are getting higher as central banks unravel their quantitative easing programmes, while the digital money revolution picks up pace.
Listen to the New Money Review podcast for more on:
“Competition is for losers,” Paypal founder, early Facebook investor and bitcoin enthusiast Peter Thiel once said.
But now the monopoly power of the big tech firms has outgrown even Thiel’s wildest dreams.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, I ask Vili Lehdonvirta, professor of economic sociology and digital social research at the Oxford Internet Institute, University of Oxford, whether we can loosen the tech platforms’ grip on money and power.
Lehdonvirta is the author of a new book, “Cloud empires: how digital platforms are overtaking the state and how we can regain control”.
In the podcast, we cover the reasons for the rise of huge internet companies like Google, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Tencent and Alibaba.
We discuss how the libertarian ideas of the early internet have long been lost, to be replaced by concerns over excessive corporate control and rising economic, social and political inequality.
How should the increasingly powerful global digital economy be governed?
Listen to the podcast to hear more on:
Cryptocurrency billionaires are gaining a political foothold in countries rich and poor.
Their influence now extends into governments, legislatures, charities and educational establishments around the world.
In the US, cryptocurrency businesses’ lobbying power now exceeds that of the big tech, pharma and defence sectors, traditionally among the biggest contributors to politicians and their parties.
And crypto promoters are finding a ready audience in some of the world’s most deprived and war-torn countries, often those with sizeable natural resources.
Despite the recent failure by El Salvador to achieve the domestic adoption of bitcoin, the leaders of several African countries are now following suit, pushing their own cryptocurrency projects.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, Pete Howson, assistant professor in international development at the UK’s University of Northumbria, talks about the worrying shift towards a global political system influenced by a very undemocratic creation—cryptocurrency.
In the 30-minute podcast we cover:
There’s a rising superpower in the world of money—a country that’s cut off from the global financial network, but which is playing an increasingly prominent and disruptive role within it.
Though the country denies it, researchers are almost certain that over the last three decades, North Korea has been behind some of the most audacious and brazen frauds in history. These have involved counterfeiting, theft, hacking, bank raids, ransomware and cyber-attacks.
The attacks have been planned well in advance and executed with military precision. North Korea’s evident skills in these areas have both shocked and impressed the analysts who have studied its exploits.
As more and more of our payments move online, North Korea’s ability to disrupt the financial system through hacks, thefts and other disruptive activity is getting more dangerous.
To talk about this important topic, in the latest New Money Review podcast I was joined by Geoff White, an investigative journalist, a specialist in cybersecurity and the author of a recent book on North Korea called the Lazarus Heist.
Listen in for a thrilling story that anyone involved in finance, technology or politics should know about.
Record temperatures, droughts, war, COVID, bans on movement and meeting…it’s been a witches’ brew of events. Is nature telling us that humans have overburdened the planet?
Not yet, says Amlan Roy, author of “Demographics Unravelled” and our guest on the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast.
The global population can still grow further without triggering more damage, says Roy: technological advances and better education could let us add 2bn more humans by 2050, he argues.
The study of human traits such as population numbers—demographics—is the single most important subject that no one pays attention to, says Roy, citing management guru Peter Drucker.
But when people do pay attention to demographics, most then miss the point, Roy says in the podcast.
That’s because we all tend to focus on a single statistic—age—only.
“An 80-year-old in Japan is different from an 80-year-old in Sweden, Italy, Greece or Germany,” says Roy, citing the five countries in the world with the oldest average population.
“Consumption is different in those countries, workers are different, education is different and institutions are different.”
We need to research and understand these broader traits of humans to see what drives economies and financial markets, Roy says in the podcast.
Roy, a former investment banker, is a research associate at the London School of Economics and a fellow at the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries.
Listen in to a 30-minute discussion of:
Whoever dominates the world’s energy markets rules global politics.
Coal fuelled the expansion of the British empire. Control over oil flows helped the US dictate the settlement after World War 2.
Now we’re entering a more turbulent period. The climate crisis is upon us, meaning we have to slow—even cut—greenhouse gas emissions. This year, Vladimir Putin’s weaponisation of energy supplies has raised the stakes dramatically.
But as we race to replace oil, gas and coal with renewable energy technologies, it’s China that will dominate both energy and money during the next century, says John Bowlus, guest on the latest New Money Review podcast.
In the podcast, Bowlus also says he believes the end of the hydrocarbon era will bring two centuries of global economic growth to an end, shrinking the world population.
“The growth dynamic—that whole paradigm—is unsustainable,” he says.
Bowlus, an academic at Turkey’s Kadir Has university, researches how energy, especially oil, has shaped global politics, and how geopolitical risk and technological developments affect national and global energy regimes.
Listen in to hear a broad-ranging discussion of energy, power and currency regimes. We cover:
Take any story in the daily business news and there’s likely to be a securities finance angle to it, says Roy Zimmerhansl, my guest in the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast.
Under his original plan to buy Twitter, Elon Musk, for example, was supposed to pledge Tesla shares worth $62.5bn as part of a margin loan. The debt was to be secured by that Tesla stock, which could be seized by the lenders in the case of default.
Musk is now trying to back out of the deal. But such repurchase (“repo”) and securities lending agreements are a critical but little-understood part of the financial markets.
Roy is a securities finance expert and someone well-equipped to throw light on this area. A 42-year veteran of the financial markets, during his career he has specialised in global custody, securities lending, prime brokerage and securities finance.
He was in charge of securities lending for several banks and broker-dealers and now runs his own consulting firm, Pierpoint Financial Consulting Ltd.
In the 40-minute podcast, Roy tells listeners why we should all be paying closer attention to securities finance. We cover:
In 2008, a few obscure three-letter financial products—MBS, ABS, CDOs and SIVs—set off the biggest financial crisis in history.
Now, could a new alphabet soup of DAOs, NFTs, Dapps, DMMs and DEXes pose similar risks to financial stability?
Yes, says Hilary Allen, our guest on the latest New Money Review podcast. Allen is a professor at the American University Washington College of Law, where she teaches financial regulation.
The latest acronyms—for decentralised autonomous organisations (DAOs), non-fungible tokens (NFTs), decentralised applications, market makers and exchanges (Dapps, DMMs and DEXes)—all come from the decentralised finance (“DeFi”) market.
DeFi is a $210bn market of financial services built on top of cryptocurrency networks like ethereum.
DeFi activities parallel those undertaken in the traditional financial system, such as trading, lending and investing—but without banks, central trading platforms or investment firms.
The sector includes a number of automated lending protocols, such as Aave, bZx v2, Compound, Maker, Polygon Aave and Venus. It also contains automated market making protocols, such as Uniswap, Curve, and Balancer, and automated investment vehicles, such as Yearn and Convex.
But according to Allen, DeFi increasingly resembles the ‘shadow banking’ sector that triggered the 2008 meltdown—and very few people are paying attention.
Allen says that three key risks in DeFi—heightened leverage, rigidity, and the potential for investor runs—are the same as those that grew out of control fifteen years ago.
“What has really struck me the most,” Allen says in the podcast, “is how quickly we forget.”
On 28 February the US, EU and UK froze most of the Russian central bank’s $630bn foreign currency reserves, responding to the country’s invasion of Ukraine.
In the words of the UK government, the freeze aimed “to prevent the central bank of Russia from deploying its foreign reserves in ways that undermine the impact of sanctions imposed by us and our allies”.
But around 20 percent of the CBR’s reserves—the portion held in gold—could not be touched by sanctions.
That’s because Russia’s gold is held within the country. In theory, it is still free to use its gold as it wishes. Although Russia will struggle to find a counterparty in a Western nation to deal with it, it may find willing buyers elsewhere.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, John Read, chief market strategist at the World Gold Council, talks about gold’s role as the original censorship-resistant form of money, as well as its place in an investment portfolio.
John has over 30 years’ experience in the gold market as a hedge fund manager, a precious metals strategist, an equity analyst and as an employee of a gold mining firm.
He has a degree in mining engineering from the Royal School of Mines, a constituent of Imperial College, London.
Listen to the podcast, “the future of money in 30 minutes”, to hear John comment on the following topics:
“In the case of Putin we are in this very dangerous place. We have reacted so aggressively and moved so far, so fast that he is personally humiliated under anything other than absolute victory in Ukraine. That makes it impossible for him to back down. It’s a very dangerous negotiating position to have put yourself into.”
In the latest New Money Review podcast, Mike Green, chief strategist at Simplify Asset Management, discusses geopolitics, game theory, market structure and risk.
Green believes our policymakers have created dangerously unstable financial, political and social systems by preventing diversity—whether that’s opinions on coronavirus, the Ukraine war or the way equity markets are structured.
“No-one wins in these unstable systems,” Green says in the podcast.
“Human society depends on relative stability to flourish but we’re creating conditions of extraordinary instability. And those marginally past the point of subsistence are the most likely to be damaged.”
Green is a former hedge fund manager, having worked for Peter Thiel’s family office and in a start-up seeded by Soros Fund Management.
His work on the changing structure of equity markets has been presented to the Federal Reserve, the BIS, the IMF and numerous other industry groups and associations.
Listen to the podcast, ‘the future of money in 30 minutes’, to hear Green discuss:
Over the last decade India has undertaken arguably the most ambitious digitisation programme of any country in the world.
Its so-called ‘India stack’—a public digital infrastructure that allows governments, businesses, start-ups and developers to interact—is the largest open software platform of its kind.
Nearly all of India’s 1.4bn citizens are now included in a biometric digital identity system, which is linked to a real-time payments network and a credential management platform.
India’s payments system has been called the most advanced in the world, and recent events have shown how far-sighted its planners were.
Since the coronavirus pandemic, more and more of us have turned to digital forms of payment, discarding cash in the process.
To make sure they stay relevant in the digital money era, governments around the world are now racing to introduce state digital currencies (also called central bank digital currencies or CBDC).
Some say China is well ahead in this global competition—it’s been trialling the new digital yu’an at the winter Olympics.
The US is playing catch up but in a serious way—the Federal Reserve has released two important papers about CBDC in the last month.
But India is also now firming up its digital currency plans. The country’s finance minister said earlier this month that India will introduce a new CBDC later this year or in 2023.
To discuss the digital rupee and its likely impact, I’m joined on the latest New Money Review podcast by Tanvi Ratna, a technologist and policymaker who’s based in Bangalore.
Tanvi, who is founder of a think-tank called Policy 4.0, has worked with both the US and Indian governments on technology policy and is closely involved with India’s digital currency debate.
In the podcast, we discuss:
In the last decade we’ve seen four massive leaks of data from offshore financial centres: the Panama, Paradise and Pandora papers and the FinCEN files.
No-one knows who leaked this information. But the data made one thing crystal-clear: the world’s rich and powerful, including its wealthiest criminals, love using shell companies to hide their assets.
And it’s not just a few small, sunny Caribbean or Pacific islands that make these financial flows possible.
It’s also corporate vehicles in places like the UK, where you can set up a limited company for as little as £12.
In the recent Danske Bank scandal, €200bn of suspicious transactions from the former USSR flowed through the Estonian branch of the Danish bank between 2007 and 2015.
In nearly all these flows, British limited companies and partnerships, owned by unknown entities, were critical in helping launder the money.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, one of the world’s leading experts talks about the mechanics of money laundering.
Graham Barrow has worked with many banks to help combat illicit money flows.
He is also co-host of a brilliant podcast called the Dark Money Files, which I spent a lot of time listening to last year.
The UK, where I live, keeps saying it will crack down on the abuse of shell companies.
More cynical voices argue that London is so dependent on dark money it has no real incentive to do so.
So far, the cynics seem right.
The UK government has failed to act on its promises to tighten up the rules on identifying the owners of companies.
But maybe all is not lost. Listen to Graham for thirty minutes and make up your own mind.
In the podcast discussion, we cover:
In the latest New Money Review podcast, technologist Martin Walker tells Paul Amery how the cryptocurrency bubble has wasted huge amounts of capital and is only one of several interconnected manias.
By contrast with the dot.com bubble of 1999/2000, says Walker, little of use may be left behind from the current irrational exuberance.
Here are some excerpts from the podcast:
‘Decentralisation’ in blockchain is meaningless
“The word ‘decentralisation’ in the fintech and blockchain world is a very confusing term. It’s turned into an excuse to avoid accountability for running businesses and financial infrastructure.”
What is bitcoin?
“Bitcoin is a rather bizarre payments infrastructure that uses a private currency. It has nothing to do with any of the problems that we saw in the 2008 financial crisis.”
Regulators struggle
“It’s frustrating on many levels that regulation always seems to be a long way behind the curve. Someone used the expression: ‘The regulators tidy up the bodies, rather than stopping people getting killed’.”
“But you can’t just put things at the door of regulators. They are always on the back foot when innovation occurs. And they can only do what’s determined by the law. There’s a responsibility on politicians and governments to look at what’s going on. When you have things bubbling away and potentially causing problems the regulators need to have the appropriate powers.”
“There’s a degree of reluctance by many regulators to be seen as anti-innovation. That’s one of the things I really find disturbing about the current age. The number one duty of the regulator should be to protect the public and the financial sector.”
The crypto lobby is powerful
“The crypto lobby has become so rich and so powerful that you’ve got senators, congressmen, MPs and even whole countries brought in.”
New rules will follow the crash
“To get things under proper control you need some degree of international cooperation. But I don’t see that happening until you’ve had a really major crash, where a lot of ordinary people have lost their money.”
Conflicts of interest in cryptocurrency
“There are so many conflicts of interest [in cryptocurrency]. In the traditional financial markets, an exchange can’t margin finance its own customers. A traditional exchange does not take trading positions against its customers. You have to have a level of operational resilience. But in the crypto markets, if prices go the wrong way, all the exchanges mysteriously switch off.”
Tether is propped up by crypto insiders
“The biggest weak point in the cryptocurrency ecosystem is stablecoins, notably Tether. It’s essentially a major bank and payments company that has no real financial regulation. I find it quite bizarre that if you compare Tether to its predecessors, like Liberty Reserve and E-Gold, in the past there were criminal prosecutions of those running these unregulated quasi-banks.”
“There’s a relatively [small] number of players in big crypto who really control this industry: the big exchanges, Tether, the mining pools and large investors. There’s no reason for a tether token to be worth a dollar. But it’s in the interests of a small group of very rich people to maintain this illusion.”
Many bubbles will burst together
“What’s different between now and the dot.com boom is that now we have a bubble of bubbles. There’s the fintech bubble, the crypto bubble, a meme stock bubble, there’s a real estate bubble, an electric vehicle bubble. And there are degrees of interconnection between them. It’s just mind-blowing to consider how this might play out.”
“Who would think that you’d have the electric vehicle bubble connected with the crypto bubble? And we do, thanks to Elon Musk.”
“There’s been a massive misallocation of capital. That money has just been wasted.”
In the latest New Money Review podcast, psychotherapist Tony Marini talks about the growing problem of addiction to cryptocurrency.
Marini, a specialist in gambling addiction, works at the Castle Craig hospital in Scotland.
In the podcast, he says he’s seen a sharp rise in cryptocurrency-related self-destructive behaviour since the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic—a period during which many of us have been stuck at home in front of a computer screen.
Marini explains how addiction to gambling often goes hand in hand with other addictions, such as to drugs or alcohol.
He says that only increased awareness of the risks resulting from gambling can help combat the problem. In the podcast, Marini calls for better society-wide education on the risks of trading highly volatile crypto assets.
During the recording, Marini and New Money Review editor Paul Amery discuss:
Tony Marini on addiction, gambling and cryptocurrency
“Addiction could be an escape from reality, grief or trauma. But once you cross the line into addiction you cannot go back—whether that’s alcohol, drugs or gambling.”
“Over the last eighteen months a lot more people have been working from home with two screens: one for their crypto and gambling, the other for work. And many are crossing over into other addictions, such as drugs and alcohol. You’re alone a lot and you think you’re going to perk up with an escape from reality. There’s a tenfold increase in people investing in cryptocurrency.”
“People are getting all this information on the internet from others who are saying, ‘I’m the expert, I can make you lots of money’. It’s absolutely ludicrous—this is gambling, pure and simple.”
“Those addicted to gambling are three times more likely to commit suicide than those suffering from any other addiction. I’ve seen so many people lose their lives to this. It’s just heart-breaking. There really should be a lot more done about this.”
“Education is the way forward. In schools, colleges and universities young people are told a lot about the risks in drugs and alcohol, but not about gambling, and especially not about cryptocurrency and where it can take them.”
“When we are buying or trading in cryptocurrency, we are gambling straight away. This is not regulated. There are lots and lots of people out there who want to take your money.”
A central bank policy mistake is likely to cause the next financial crisis, says Dan Awrey, my guest on the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast.
“The combination of near-zero interest rates and the restructuring of the financial system around near-zero rates means that central bank policy surprises are likely to be the match that lights the fire,” says Awrey, a professor of law at Cornell University, where he specialises in financial regulation.
Formerly a legal counsel to an investment management firm and a practising securities lawyer, Awrey has conducted research for and advised governmental organisations around the world.
These include the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the UK Treasury, the UK Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), the Commonwealth Secretariat and the European Securities and Markets Authority (ESMA).
He is also a founding co-managing editor of the Journal of Financial Regulation, published by Oxford University Press.
I interviewed Dan Awrey a few days after three US government agencies issued a report calling for new laws to rein in the chaotic growth of the dollar stablecoin market. He was cited in the report as an independent expert.
(Stablecoins are digital tokens designed to track a specified fiat currency and whose value is backed by holdings of assets denominated in that currency. Given their ease of use and transfer, they represent an increasing threat to bank deposits).
In the 30-minute podcast discussion, we talked in detail about stablecoins. But I also asked Dan Awrey to explore some of the key policy issues facing financial regulators in the current era of near-zero interest rates, high levels of speculation and accelerating technological change.
Listen in to the podcast to hear us discuss:
Cryptocurrency is an experimental technology. But it’s also now a $2.5trn market with growing and increasingly complex linkages to the traditional financial system—whether through ETFs, the futures market, central clearing, repo or prime brokerage.
So who’s in charge if things go wrong, as they inevitably will at some point?
To answer that question, I invited Angela Walch, a professor of law at St. Mary’s University in San Antonio, Texas, and a research associate at the Centre for Blockchain Technologies at University College London, to the New Money Review podcast.
Walch was one of the first academics to look in detail at the governance of cryptocurrency, a topic often downplayed by promoters of the idea that cryptocurrency networks are decentralised, immutable and trustless.
In a recent testimony to the US Senate committee on banking, housing and urban affairs, Walsh warned that “flaws in academic, industry, and public understanding of cryptocurrencies can taint policy decisions, embedding risk to be revealed when reality bites.”
Listen to the podcast to hear Angela Walch share her views on:
Stablecoins—digital currencies pegged to existing money, like the dollar, euro, pound or gold—are the hottest topic in finance.
From crypto-market dollars like Tether and Circle to Facebook’s Diem project and tomorrow’s central bank digital currencies (CBDC), many stablecoins are staking a claim to be the payments medium of the future.
But stablecoins are not a new idea, says Peter Wierts, a senior economist at the Dutch central bank, an associate professor at the Free University and our guest on the latest New Money Review podcast.
In fact, their design closely resembles the money issued by the 17th/18th century Bank of Amsterdam, says Wierts, who authored a paper on the topic last year with economists from the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).
Bank of Amsterdam money was the dominant global currency of its time, admired by Adam Smith and Voltaire.
But eventually it went wrong—and in a way that carries lessons for today’s stablecoin operators, says Wierts.
Listen in to the podcast to hear Wierts and New Money Review editor Paul Amery discuss:
“We’ve never been so busy,” says Nick Furneaux, a digital forensic investigator who specialises in cryptocurrency crime.
Furneaux, our guest on the latest New Money Review podcast, works with law enforcement bodies and large corporates around the world, focusing on ‘the challenge of investigating crimes involving cryptocurrency’.
Listen to the podcast to hear Nick and New Money Review editor Paul Amery discuss:
How cryptocurrency created new avenues for crime
“What bitcoin did was to provide a method of transaction that at its core is anonymous. This has given the criminal a new method to mix and hide funds. It’s more challenging for law enforcement to deal with.”
“70-80 percent of arrested criminals have cryptocurrency wallets on their phones or computers. Our phone rings off the hook with calls from people who have lost money in scams, frauds and phishing attacks. On the ground, we’ve never been so busy.”
“A sizeable percentage of bitcoin traffic—high teens—comes through the TOR network. One has to ask why. I’d suggest that the number of people using TOR for libertarian reasons is small in comparison to the number of criminals using TOR to obfuscate the movement of funds.”
How criminals launder cryptocurrency
“There are people who are willing to launder crypto for you. They’ll just charge a huge percentage and give you the cash.”
The continuing frictions between cryptocurrency and banks
“We had to buy £500 of ethereum the other day for a class I’m teaching on DeFi and decentralised exchanges—the bank froze my business bank account until I could explain why. The banks are very twitchy with any sort of crypto movement.”
Why retail investors need to practise self-defence
“If you go back five years, an awful lot of the money in crypto was criminal. Now there’s a lot of retail money. And people are going to want to deal with companies that will make restitution if things go wrong.”
“If you’re going to get into cryptocurrency, make sure you understand the technology. Make sure you know the difference between a public and private key, and what a bitcoin address is compared to the private key that controls it. If you cannot understand that, do not get into crypto—you will just have ‘victim’ tattooed on your forehead.”
The global challenge of solving cryptocurrency crimes
“I don’t know how we solve the international issue. We’ve got countries that don’t care, and other countries that don’t have the people or the funds to train their law enforcement and legislators. We get calls from police forces around the world who can’t afford the blockchain forensic tools.”
Why ethereum, DeFi and NFTs are the new frontier of crypto fraud
“The biggest issue we are seeing criminally is what we generically term ‘crypto 2.0’—the ethereum blockchain with all of its tokens, and then the DeFi contracts. If a criminal stakes money into a DeFi contract and does so-called yield farming, they are earning clean money.”
“We’re seeing art fraud associated with non-fungible tokens (NFTs). You take a picture you own to auction, buy it from yourself for $100k, pay the commission, then put it back up for sale for $60k and sell it to a third party who thinks it’s cheap.”
The combination of finance and technology is driving us towards the biggest change in human history in 500 years, says Viktor Shvets, my guest on this week’s podcast.
Shvets, a Hong Kong-based investment banker with Macquarie and a widely followed markets analyst, specialises in the intersection between finance, technology, politics and history.
Viktor’s background—he grew up in the former USSR before moving to Australia in his early 20s—has given him a unique perspective into the great geopolitical shifts we’re living through.
He’s recently turned that perspective into a new book, “The Great Rupture”, a study of the profound impact of technology and financialisation on our collective future.
I found the book erudite, thought-provoking, convincing and at times a little scary.
Here are some excerpts from the podcast discussion:
The past is no longer a guide to the future
“The recipe for success over the last 500 years is now changing very rapidly.”
Economic success, personal and political freedom
“Is it possible to be wealthy, prosperous and even innovative even though you don’t enjoy the same degree of freedom? The lessons of the last five centuries are that without freedom you can’t have those things.”
The industrial age and the information age
“There are fundamental differences between the two. In the industrial age, capital was scarce, most activities were highly capital-intensive and labour was a primary driver of productivity. That’s why you needed literacy and a skilled workforce.”
“In the information age, we are drowning in capital and we have 5-10 times more than we require. Most activities these days are not that capital-intensive. The capacity constraints are much more fluid. And labour is losing marginal pricing power.”
Capitalism is over
“What we have right now is not capitalism. It’s just a question of how we define it and what are the rules for the new world.”
Financialisation is driving us towards a black hole
“We are rushing towards a black hole. On the other side, a different world lies. The two forces pushing us there are financialisation and the information age.”
“Any idea gets very easily funded. The low cost of capital is like pouring kerosene on the bonfire of the information age. It’s accelerating the progress of technology.”
Central bank money creation is no longer inflationary
“The more you grow the money supply faster than nominal GDP, the more you create disinflation rather than inflation. Money is getting stuck in the cloud of finance, rather than reaching the ground where people live.”
The end of the corporation
“In the future, the idea of having a long-living corporation, transacting in its own name, will seem ridiculous.”
Freedom may be optional
“The mixture of technology and financialisation could lead us into a world where freedom becomes optional.”
“Baby boomers’ obsession with freedom, choice and efficiency led to many bad outcomes, from environmental degradation to income and wealth inequality. Going forward, we will have less freedom. An emphasis on fairness and equality will be far more prevalent.”
Curtains for Facebook, Amazon and Netflix?
“The large digital consumer platforms are sunsetting. They’re suffering from diseconomies of scale and they are going to be attacked from a political, regulatory and societal level, as well as by start-ups.”
The public needs protection from the Wild West land grab that’s now going on in money, says Rohan Grey, our guest on the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast.
Grey, Assistant Professor of Law at Willamette University in the US, was one of the authors of a controversial bill brought before the US Congress late last year, called the ‘Stable Act’.
The Stable Act’s objective—it is due to return to Congress later this year—was to protect consumers from the risks posed by emerging digital payment instruments, such as Facebook’s planned new ‘Diem’ currency and other private sector ‘stablecoins’.
The authors of the Act called for stablecoin issuers to be regulated as banks, a suggestion that went down like a lead balloon with much of the cryptocurrency community.
Stablecoins are digital versions of existing fiat currency, such as the dollar, euro or yen. Their value has been growing explosively in recent years. They have also been called ‘the first battleground of the coming crypto regulation wars’.
Notable stablecoins include Tether, the cryptocurrency market’s version of the dollar, which has grown from $3bn to over $60bn in size in just a year.
There’s Circle, which is now growing even faster and whose issuer went public on the New York Stock Exchange last week. And there’s tech giant Facebook’s planned new version of the dollar.
Amidst all this private sector experimentation with digital money, what role is left to the state? According to Grey, we shouldn’t leave the crucial discussion over the future of money in the hands of private actors.
In his view, it’s time for national parliaments to step up and make crucial decisions on digital money’s design.
This is a crucial debate and one we’re going to hear a lot more about in coming years.
Here are some excerpts from the podcast discussion:
Why the money infrastructure is a public good
“It’s a matter of democratic legitimacy. We’ve seen throughout history these key infrastructural moments when we hand over control to certain private actors. Then we spend decades living in the repercussions. This is one of those moments. When it comes to the digitization of currency, this is a Wild West frontier land grab. I hope we don’t end up repeating the same political dynamics of most historical land grabs.”
The risks of shadow banks and shadow deposits
“If you allow private actors to create something that walks and talks like public money, but has none of the safeguards and none of the policy oversight that comes with public money, the result is recurrent crises and systemic breakdowns, where the public has to bail out these actors.”
“One of the major causes of instability in the lead-up to the 2008 financial crisis was that various actors which we now call ‘shadow banks’ were issuing instruments that were effectively deposits. But in US deposit law there’s a well-recognised and long-standing loophole: the definition of a deposit is as something a bank does. So if you’re not a bank, by definition what you’re issuing can’t be a deposit, even if it walks and talks and is functionally like one.”
Stablecoin issuers should be regulated as banks
“Let’s be very clear. These actors are issuing a deposit, version 2.0. They should be regulated as banks, not [under] the hodge-podge, barely regulated money transmitter framework they’re currently operating under.”
The risks in stablecoins
“The conversation ends up focusing on the asset side. Do we have enough collateral? Do we have enough reserves? In my opinion the focus should be on the liability side—what are you promising? If you can’t guarantee that promise under all circumstances, it’s not a safe promise. I’ve never seen a single theory of collateral that is actually safe.”
The US is now backstopping the world’s shadow money
“We now have this system of international swap lines [between central banks] precisely to backstop the shadow money issued around the world, where the US is effectively the insurer of last resort for the European banking system, among others.”
Tether is a ticking time-bomb
“I think Tether is a ticking time bomb. The level of opacity, the level of shadiness and the track record of the people involved are extremely worrying. And huge parts of the crypto ecosystem depend on Tether. The people who are going to be hurt the most are the suckers in that ecosystem.”
In our slippery world of risk, uncertainty, change and complexity, hard and fast rules can be rare. Sometimes those rules can even be a trap, says Gerald Ashley, our guest on the latest New Money Review podcast.
Ashley, a former banker, is now an author, financial historian, public speaker and consultant, specialising in risk and decision making.
In his podcast discussion with New Money Review editor Paul Amery, he argues that we often misunderstand risks and have too narrow a view of the models we use to quantify them.
And with no perfect solutions and many ‘known unknowns’ to the problems we face, we are often influenced by context and instinctive biases rather than rational analysis, says Ashley.
In an era of pandemics, social media-driven narratives and financial instability, the topic of risk management has never been more relevant.
Listen in to the podcast to hear Ashley describe:
Gerald Ashley’s interviews with key figures from the City of London during the 1970s and 1980s are available at the website of the Centre for Financial History, run by Darwin College, Cambridge University.
We should all pay attention to what’s going on in payments, because changes in the technology of money transfers are going to affect all our lives.
In the latest New Money Review podcast, Gottfried Leibbrandt and Natasha de Teran discuss their new book, ‘the Pay Off’.
Leibbrandt is the former chief executive at SWIFT, the messaging network that supports trillions of dollars a day in global money transfers. De Teran is SWIFT’s former head of communications.
It’s hard to keep up with what’s going on in payments. Technology is dismantling payment barriers while governments are erecting them.
Cash is on the way out, and cryptocurrency and BigTech are fighting their way in. The Europeans are heavily regulated, the Americans are still hooked on paper cheques and the Chinese are leading the way in new payments technology.
Changing the way we pay changes everything, say Leibbrandt and de Teran, because it touches so many aspects of what we do.
“The technology, the plumbing [of payments] is changing faster than ever before. I’ve been in the industry for thirty years and I can say it’s never changed as fast as it does right now,” Leibbrandt says in the podcast.
“I would also be very hard-pressed to make any predictions on where things will be five years from now,” he goes on.
“It’s this incredibly important part of our lives that we never stop to think about,” says de Teran.
“It isn’t really discussed outside the world of payment nerds. But the payments system is as important, if not more important than the rail and transport systems or the electricity grid.”
“The changes in payments will change things like who’s in charge, where your data is kept, what purchases you can make and how credit is extended,” Leibbrandt says.
“It’s something the average citizen should know about.”
Behind the changes in payments tech lie seismic shifts in global economic power, say the co-authors.
“We’ve gone from one third of the global population having access to financial services to two thirds in just seven or eight years,” says Leibbrandt.
“All that is thanks to the penetration of mobile technology. It’s a mind-boggling pace of change.”
At the same time, payments innovation raises serious concerns about cybercrime, financial inclusion and consumer protection, says de Teran.
Listen to the podcast to hear Leibbrandt and de Teran talk about:
In the latest episode of the New Money Review podcast, I interview an old friend and former colleague, Paul Craven.
After working for nearly thirty years as an asset manager, Paul is now a consultant, public speaker, coach and author.
He works with a range of clients, from investors to doctors to lawyers and entrepreneurs.
His specialist topic is behavioural economics, which Paul describes as “how real people make real decisions in the real world”.
His insights in this area don’t just come from a successful career in finance: Paul is also a trained magician.
As you’ll hear him talk about on the podcast, we all make mental short-cuts and, sometimes, our minds play tricks on us as a result.
Those short-cuts are exploited by magicians in their performances.
But they can also cause us to make big mistakes when investing.
The tendency for our unconscious mind to take over in certain situations can hamper us in our general lives.
So to help ourselves, we need to be aware as much of our own potential weaknesses as of our own strengths.
In the podcast, we cover the following topics:
The race to develop a central bank digital currency (CBDC) is often portrayed as one of polar opposites: the Chinese hare against the US tortoise.
But we should keep a close eye on a third contestant in the race, the eurozone, says Jonas Gross, our guest in the latest New Money Review podcast.
The new digital euro project is part of a package of measures undertaken by the European Union (EU) to ensure the region stays competitive in the increasingly internet-based global economy.
Last summer the EU introduced a draft regulation for markets in crypto-assets, while today the European Commission, the EU’s executive arm, is due to set out its plans for EU-wide digital identity wallets.
These wallets will offer access to a range of services for the bloc’s 450 million citizens and, presumably, be integrated with any future digital euro.
Although the European Central Bank (ECB) has not yet formally committed to launching a digital version of the single European currency, its decision is expected this month or next.
Gross, our podcast interviewee, is a project manager at the Frankfurt School Blockchain Centre and a PhD candidate at the University of Bayreuth. His specialist area of research is CBDCs, stablecoins and cryptocurrencies.
The ECB has been active in preparing for the launch of a digital euro: in October it issued a 55-page report and public consultation on the subject, and in April it published a summary of the 8,221 responses to the consultation.
In its reports, the ECB has examined the likely privacy features of a CBDC and its integration into existing payments systems.
It has also discussed the euro’s future role in international foreign exchange markets, where it is already the second-largest reserve currency.
In the podcast, Jonas Gross explores the critical unknowns regarding the digital euro and suggests where the CBDC debate might be heading. He discusses with New Money Review editor Paul Amery:
Belief in a new era, rampant speculation, insider dealing, market manipulation, fortunes being won and lost…
The cryptocurrency boom of 2020/21? Sounds like it. But it’s also an accurate description of the US stock market before the great Wall Street crash of 1929.
“It was the Wild West,” says Kathleen Moriarty, a securities lawyer and our guest on the latest New Money Review podcast, describing the roaring 1920s.
“Anything horrible that you imagine could be done would be done. Brokers were stealing people’s assets. Those running investment funds were preferring themselves to their customers. They would take the good securities and give the bad securities to the fund. You name it, they were doing it. When you read the history, it’s hair-raising as to how bad things really were.”
Moriarty, who describes herself as a ‘securities lawyer by accident’, is famous for her work in helping develop the first US-listed exchange-traded fund, the SPDR S&P 500 ETF, launched in 1993.
ETFs have since grown to become a multi-trillion-dollar industry and an integral part of the world’s securities markets.
More recently, Moriarty was involved in the Winklevoss twins’ attempt to create a US-listed ETF holding bitcoin. That initiative was blocked by the US securities regulator, the Securities and Exchange Commission, as have a number of other bitcoin ETF applications since.
“The SEC is looking out for the retail investor. That’s why the approval of a cryptocurrency ETF is taking so long,” Moriarty says in the podcast.
Amidst the rampant current speculation in cryptocurrencies, could the post-crash US securities regulations of the 1930s offer us all a blueprint for what may lie ahead?
Listen to the podcast recording to hear Moriarty and New Money Review editor Paul Amery discuss:
In the latest New Money Review podcast, talk about the behaviours, attitudes and financial resilience of self-directed investors in the UK.
Britain Thinks recently conducted and published research on self-directed investing on behalf of the UK’s financial services regulator, the Financial Conduct Authority.
One of the consultancy's key findings is that self-directed investors—those making investment decisions on their own behalf, without the help of a financial adviser—are at risk of overconfidence and of suffering financial harm as a result.
This risk is potentially amplified by the role of social media in encouraging herd behaviour, say the researchers.
“When using social media, self-directed investors are often at risk of following the algorithm because they are being served content,” Rachel Rowlinson says in the podcast.
“They get the sense that there’s this big movement, that everyone is getting involved in this one thing and they don’t want to be left behind,” says Rowlinson.
“A big thing for this new group [of self-directed investors] is they see a lot of content, a lot of news about something as a short-cut to saying, ‘If people are talking about it, it must be either a good investment or a shortcut to safety’,” Rowlinson goes on.
“Something like cryptocurrency can be seen as massively overvalued, but they are not really aware of that.”
“They are unaware that, because they are looking at this content, the algorithm is actually tipping the scale.”
In the podcast, Carol and Rachel discuss their key research findings with New Money Review editor Paul Amery:
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Many large financial institutions have performed an about-turn in cryptocurrency during the last few years, moving from a position of outright hostility to one of acceptance and even enthusiasm.
But there are still a few outspoken sceptics of the now-booming sector.
One is Stephen Diehl, a software engineer, chief technical officer of a London-based fintech company called Adjoint and our guest on the latest New Money Review podcast.
According to Diehl, cryptocurrency is an internet-based lottery that serves mainly to enrich insiders at the many digital token projects.
“A cryptocurrency is a speculative financial product that has an embedded wealth redistribution function: it takes external capital and shifts it around to other people,” he says in the podcast.
“By comparison with traditional financial instruments, there are no external cash flows. The pay-out structure is contingent on new investors coming in. You can compare it to a lottery, but with a very unclear pay-out structure. It generally looks Ponzi-like,” says Diehl.
According to Diehl, there are rising risks from the assimilation of cryptocurrency into the broader financial system.
“These things are working their way into the larger economy. We’re seeing publicly traded equities holding large amounts of cryptocurrency. If things are left unchecked, they’ll be finding their way into things like pension funds and ETFs,” he says.
Uninformed consumers, says Diehl, particularly millennials, are highly exposed to losses when buying the many new tokens on offer.
“I’m particularly concerned about retail investors being exposed to products that come with a fair amount of counterparty, systemic and market risks. The education people are getting about these things is often from social media or online sources that have a vested interest in promoting them,” says Diehl.
“A lot of millennials don’t have the assets, savings or participation in the economy that previous generations had,” he goes on, explaining the popularity of crypto with the younger generation.
“For them, it makes sense to buy riskier things—products that have a more asymmetric upside. And there’s a lot of disenchantment with the financial system. So the narrative about creating an alternative financial system resonates with a lot of younger people—the story of bitcoin and alternative financial services is a very compelling one.”
But those investing in crypto as a way of expressing dissatisfaction with the status quo risk being sorely disappointed, Diehl says in the podcast.
“Whether that system is actually being built is a separate question,” says Diehl.
“I’d argue that it’s not. These things—cryptocurrencies—don’t provide anything other than [a means for] gambling. Bitcoin has hijacked the populist rage narrative to propose a story that tenuously makes sense. But if you dig into the details it doesn’t really feel solid.”
In the podcast, Diehl also talks about the distorting effect he believes cryptocurrencies are having on scientific research, as well as on the prices for computing services.
“Cryptocurrency has had an impact on the hardware market: it’s basically impossible to buy a graphics processing unit as these things all get snatched up by miners. That’s having an outsized impact on machine learning and artificial intelligence,” says Diehl.
“People working in these domains require specialised hardware and can’t actually purchase the devices they need. Ultimately, these price increases will be passed down to anyone using cloud computing services. Even if you’re not touching cryptocurrency, you’re going to see inflation propagate for anything it touches.”
And while the open-source nature of most cryptocurrency projects means their codebase can be audited, the same principle of openness doesn’t extend to many of the service providers in the sector, says Diehl. Here, he argues, there’s a major problem.
“Where the fraud occurs [in cryptocurrencies] is not in the code per se, but in the governance structure around the projects, the auditing of the alleged reserves and of the bank accounts that hold the actual money,” says Diehl.
Listen in to the New Money Review podcast, ‘the future of money in 30 minutes’, to hear the full discussion between Stephen Diehl and New Money Review editor Paul Amery.
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The changes in money are getting faster, more chaotic and more confusing. And it’s not just money that’s changing, but technology, finance, law, government and culture with it. Each week, we interview a leading expert on one or more of these topics. By listening to the podcast, you can stay up to date with what’s going on in money and prepare yourself for what lies ahead.
Political revolutions often go hand-in-hand with revolutions in money. Stores of value change, the way we make payments changes, our attitudes to credit change.
According to Rebecca Spang, professor of history at Indiana University, the author of a prize-winning 2015 book called ‘Stuff and Money at the time of the French Revolution’ and our interviewee in the latest New Money Review podcast, we may once again be living in revolutionary times.
“Past institutions no longer feel legitimate or stable,” she says in the podcast.
“The level of instability and uncertainty does make this a revolutionary moment.”
“We are seeing quite epic and dysfunctional levels of inequality,” says Spang.
When the French revolution took place in 1789, those owning debts suddenly wanted to be paid. France’s credit-based monetary system fell apart and the country hit a severe liquidity crisis.
France then embarked on one of the most famous monetary experiments in history: it issued a new paper form of money that was notionally backed by the property wealth of the old régime.
This so-called ‘assignat’ experiment eventually caused severe inflation and in 1803 France went back to a gold standard.
Could our current infatuation with different forms of money—from bitcoin to meme stocks and non-fungible tokens (NFTs)—be indicators of a shift similar to the one that took place in France more than two centuries ago?
Listen to the podcast to hear Spang and New Money Review editor Paul Amery discuss:
John Kiff, our guest on the latest New Money Review podcast, has always worked in what he calls the ‘edgy’ areas of finance—from over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives to fintech and digital currencies.
For 25 years, Kiff worked at Canada’s central bank, where he was in charge of managing the country’s foreign reserve risk. He then worked as a senior financial sector expert at the International Monetary Fund (IMF), where he focused on questions of financial stability.
Kiff now publishes a widely followed daily digest of developments in financial technology (fintech) and digital assets.
In the podcast, he tells New Money Review editor Paul Amery that a single theme unites his past and present jobs.
“I’ve been called ‘the plumber’: my interest is in how things work,” says Kiff.
“In the context of derivatives, I was interested in how you do transactions, how you price them and how you manage the risk of them.”
“In the world of central bank digital currency (CBDC), I focus very much on how what design features central banks are playing around with. That’s where my interest lies.”
In a wide-ranging podcast discussion, Kiff explains why the ongoing changes in the structure of the global financial system are important—and suggests which indicators to follow.
Hidden connections and financial crises
“The things that can blow up in your face are often unseen. We missed too much back in 2007. I’m trying to atone for past sins and look for those hidden connections in this [cryptoasset] market.”
Risks in DeFi
“DeFi is definitely a concern to the financial stability and regulatory authorities to the extent that it is purposely designed to operate outside the regulatory sphere. But the major players—the likes of Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs—are not involved yet. When they get involved and perhaps take advantage of leverage opportunities, that might put them in danger if something goes off the rails.”
Programmable money
“There are some useful things you can pull out of a smart contract in a CBDC: the distribution of stimulus payments, for example. Smart contracts in the stimulus payments could direct the users to only spend that money at certain places. You couldn’t park the payment in your bank account or use it to buy cryptoassets, for example.”
Interest rates on CBDC
“They could become a tool that enhances the implementation of monetary policy. So far no central banks I know of are talking openly about introducing a CBDC that’s remunerated in any way. But in the case of runaway demand for CBDC, you might want to have the option of calibrating the rate on CBDC to make it less attractive.”
Developing economies’ motivations for introducing CBDC
“Most developing economies are looking at CBDC to save money. They’re hoping they can reduce the amount of cash in circulation. And that goes hand-in-hand with the financial inclusion aspect of CBDC.”
Tether and Diem
“So far, the main use cases for unregulated stablecoins like Tether seem to be inter-exchange and inter-platform flows. So many [crypto] platforms don’t have links to the traditional banking system. In Asia, Tether is also being used to bypass capital and exchange controls. But Facebook’s proposed stablecoin—Diem—would be orders of magnitude bigger than Tether. That’s why [regulators’] focus has been so far mainly on Diem. Overnight, it would be on people’s iPhones and Android phones. That’s what scares the authorities.”
Convergence of traditional finance and cryptocurrency
“We now see big firms like PayPal, Visa and Mastercard saying they’re embracing crypto rather than fighting it. I suspect we’re heading towards a meeting of minds. But it could still be that crypto and blockchain dramatically change the plumbing of the financial system.”
Improving payments and settlements systems
“Blockchain and distributed ledger technology can play a big role in lubricating the payments and settlement systems. But you need to get both the payment rails and the settlement rails operating on blockchain, which means you have to tokenise securities. There are lots of experiments going on in this area. There are gains to be made in terms of both efficiency and safety.”
A level regulatory playing field for traditional finance, crypto and fintech
“Right now, many firms operate outside the regulatory sphere. The challenge for global financial regulators will be in finding ways to bring everybody under the same umbrella. ‘Same risks, same regulations’ should be what we’re aiming for.”
According to Dr. Franklin Noll, our digital money future will look a lot like the past: we are heading back to a time when humans had to juggle between many different forms of currency.
Noll, our guest on the latest New Money Review podcast, is a historian who specialises in the technology of money—ranging from banknotes to cryptocurrency.
“Our recent history, where you only have one kind of currency, is kind of an aberration,” Noll says in the podcast.
“If you go back to colonial-era Massachusetts, you’d be dealing with pounds sterling, local Massachusetts pounds, stuff from other colonies, native American wampum and Spanish reals. You’d be juggling all this money.”
We should all prepare ourselves for a repeat, says Noll.
“In the future, we’ll have a lot of co-circulating currencies,” he says in the podcast.
But we’ll have some help from technology, he points out.
“We’ll have an app on our phone that will carry our different wallets and do the conversions. When we want to make a payment, our AI will see which is the most efficient way to make it.”
But despite the rise of digital payments, mobile money hasn’t taken over completely from banknotes yet. In the podcast, Noll predicts that cash will be around for a few decades more.
“Banknotes have a lot of tenacity,” he says.
“People have been predicting the end of banknotes since the 1960s, but they’re still here and people are using more of them than before. My guess is that banknotes, in some form, will still be around for a generation yet.”
According to Noll, banknotes could be made ‘smart’ in future by embedding technology that links them to an electronic network, perhaps one underlying a central bank digital currency (CBDC).
Such crypto-notes would be a physical token of the CBDC, says Noll, and could function as a transitional element between the cash we have now and a future, purely electronic form of money.
Smart banknotes could even be designed to embed a ‘carry tax’, says Noll. This would force them to depreciate in value over time. Such a design feature might suit a central bank wanting to impose a negative interest rate policy.
Listen to the podcast to hear Noll and New Money Review editor Paul Amery discuss:
Covering a range of topics—from bitcoin to central banks, technology to politics, law to cybercrime and science to culture—the New Money Review podcast helps you stay abreast of the key trends in the rapidly changing world of money.