Join Crystal Nicole in this weekly podcast with hilarious conversations about life, dating, working in Hollywood & more.... no topic is off-limits!
This week the lovely Carm Pileggi, Founder of Girls Gotta Heal and author of the Affirmation Journal for Women, joins in all the way from snowy Vancouver. Tune in as we dive into the importance of taking care of your mental health, finding a support community and the positive impact that journaling can have on your life.
Happy New Year, Roomies! PopCandy is back and ready to make MOVES in 2022. Let's start the year by recapping the last few weeks of Holiday, Birthday and oh yes, the sick life... because was it even the end of 2021 without a dramatic close? Here's to walking in this new year with fresh attitudes and positive vibes.
On this week's Pop Up episode we catch you up on some very important happenings.... the launch of PopCandy Productions, a female-based full service podcast production company. Coming early 2022!
Hey Roomies! We're back this week after a small but much needed break. On this week's Episode, let's catch up on life & recent purchases. Anyone else feeling all the feelings this month? Is Mercury Retrograde to blame? Let's chat about how journaling can get you through the tough times and how to get back to your happy place.
Hello, Chicago! On this week's episode we've got Chicago Fashion & Lifestyle Influencers, Dani & Caitlin, in the house- actually, in the high rise. Sit back and tune in as we dive into the highs and lows of being considered an "Influencer" and being that go-to person for your community. We also talk about cosmetic procedures and why sharing personal experiences has had a positive impact. Also, let's chat about relationships and why the right person is worth all the effort.
Back in LA... so let's catch up on what went down in Dallas & Chicago, the new projects in the works and why they'll be getting a whole lot more PopCandy sparkle!
Calling all Fashionista, Wellness, Fitness and Lifestyle loving Roomies... this week we have Instagram Influencer, Whitney Graham, on the mic! Tune is as we chat about the journey of going from Corporate life to the not-so-conventional Instagram dream job. We also talk about sharing your dating life with a public audience and of why you should embrace your single life to prepare for that new relationship in your future. Also, are Millennials the old? Let's rant about the things that have us feeling a little aged these days.
This week Morgan Hale, Business Development expert at a PR & Marketing agency based in Dallas, joins us on the mic as we reunite in West Hollywood. Talking irrational fears- we'll divine into the strange and over-the-top fears we have & decide just how likely they are to happen. We also give our take on Conversation Cultural and why Men are such a hot convo topic. Also, are we guilty of Fun Subscribing? We'll discuss Fomo vs Jomo and how to maintain that balanced lifestyle.
The Roomies wanted so the Roomies got it! This week Jo is back to catch us up on life as a Future Wifey, starting the Wedding Planning and what the YouTube future holds. It wouldn't be PopCandy without a little Single Girl advice and the send off game round.
On this week's Pop Up Episode I take you Roomies on the beginning of my PCOS journey and how I plan to treat it naturally. First, let's chat about what PCOS is and what symptoms I've personally experienced. After doing major research I've selected 5 lifestyle changes to regulate my health and keep my PCOS under control.
Hey Roomies! I'm back this week and I brought my friend and PopCandy Favorite, the lovely Abby. Join us as we dive into the the real roomie life of living with your significant other. We also discuss the current lifestyle trend that needs to be totally blocked from social media.... pun intended!
Welcome to the first PopCandy Pop Up Episode! Anyone need a little inspo for some changes in life? Because, same. So here are 3 things that get me through those major life changes and literally got me to where I am today!
Hey Roomies! On this week's Episode I take you along a lunch date with a special someone in West Hollywood. While in the city, let's talk about fake friends, staying loyal and why it feels like everyone and their Publicist has a hidden agenda! Also, it's back to school season so enroll with me at the TikTok University and let me fill you in on my favorite subjects... don't forget to Subscribe!
We're back this week and diving into all the Olympics drama and how these Athletes are doing more than just winning medals. Speaking of bringing home the gold, money and Hollywood seem to go hand in hand and it can be S-T-R-E-S-S-F-U-L! Let's talk about how these money assumptions can sometimes get the best of us. Another thing in the brain? Dating as an Influencer. Just how much should we be sharing about a date? Let's chat.
What happens in Malibu- ends up on Instagram! This week I take you through my week and break down exactly how one DM led to spending the evening with Brody Jenner. Anyone in need of a pep talk? Because I have you covered! Let's talk the pressure of working in Hollywood, wanting to fit in and feel confident. Oh and there was also a sweet moment, all the way from Texas, that almost made me cry! Hit play and let's catch up....
Back to Life, Back to Society? This week we dive into the hilarious habits of people watching while society returns to normal life after quarantine. We also go into the PR world and the struggles of starting in the industry. Lastly, we make a stop in Reboot Town as we discuss the current "must watch" TV Shows and remakes of original classics.
Fireworks in the air? If we're talking about the 4th of July, then yes- but if we're talking about my dating, then not really. This week I catch you up on my weekend in LA and the struggles of being single during a holiday. Speaking of dating... let's talk about the recent fails and why these dates did not pass the vibe check. The one win this week? Learning to love being in my own skin and feeling confident on and off the camera.
Make that Money, Honey! On this week's episode special guest Mirna Yuriar, Business Relationship Manager for World’s largest financial institute, joins Crystal to discuss all things business and female entrepreneurship. Get the insider scoop on how to expand your finances, what are the current leading streams of revenue and your financial To Do List as a new business owner.
Wedding Bells are in the air.... join me as I recap my family wedding weekend and spill the wedding day tea. Ever wonder what it's like to work behind the scenes of a Reality TV show? This week I dive into the secrets I've learned while behind the scenes in one of the most sought after industries.
A new week calls for a new beginning! On this episode of PopCandy we hang up Jo's Roomie hat and officially welcome Crystal into the host seat. What's in store for the future of PopCandy? What can the Roomies look forward to in the coming weeks? Let's dive right in and answer all the questions since the big update announcement.
"Be brave enough to find the life that you want and courageous enough to chase it." This week your favorite PopCandy duo are back dropping MAJOR news! Join us as we send off Jo into her next chapter, reminisce on the past 2 Seasons and give the Roomies an update on what's to come in PopCandy's future.
"Be brave enough to find the life that you want and courageous enough to chase it." This week your favorite PopCandy duo are back dropping MAJOR news! Join us as we send off Jo into her next chapter, reminisce on the past 2 Seasons and give the Roomies an update on what's to come in PopCandy's future.
We all need a little check-in these days to see how we're doing mind, body and soul, so lets start there. This week Jo & Crystal give you an update on all things mental health and what they're doing to stay on track. Getting a little motivation as they discuss the importance of timing and not giving up hope but rather learning to be patient. Take a stroll into Gen-Z-ville with the debate of Situationships and whether or not it's a concept we should get on board with.
Anyone else ready to make some life changes and start living your best life? Because, sane. This week on PopCandy, Crystal welcomes friend and fellow Fempreneur, Abby Lee, to give you their best tips implementing some changes in your daily life that will lead to big results. They also take you behind the scenes of the Wedding Industry and answer popular Wedding questions that are frequently asked.
It's time for a little Q&A session- Couple's Edition! This week we give a Roomie welcome as Jo puts her boyfriend Taran in the hot seat for a round of questions on love, marriage, kids and everything in between.
It's the little things that count and here at PopCandy, we are all about it! This week your girls are back to confess the sexy traits they find attractive in a partner! Moving on to business - do you ever wonder what having a podcast is really like?! Get the real tea from Jo and Crystal as they talk about production struggles then put on your dance shoes as they celebrate new press features and exciting upcoming guests!
Raise your hand if you're a fan of PDA?! This week, your fave Hollywood duo lay out their feelings regarding the topic and take you along for the discussion. They also weigh in on what exactly couples do that can be annoying to others. While on the topic of annoying, your girls confess their most annoying habits and quirky traits. Get ready for another off-the-rails episode!
Intruder Alert! This week your girls are back with an update on their building intruder situation.... tune in to this week's episode as they go into True Crime mode and discuss their best tips for staying safe while living alone. Have you ever done something so embarrassing that it still makes you cringe? Then you'll definitely enjoy a peek into PopCandy's original intro in all of its Hot Mess glory. Closeout the episode with a little lesson on how to get past those #awkward conversations with friends and in relationships.
A little selfcare never hurt nobody, right? The girls are back! Join Jo and Crystal this week as they kick off the episode talking all about putting YOU first without the guilt that usually comes with it. They also break down their favorite Boss Girl tips & give you their advice from personal experience. Did someone say messy breakup? Yup, we did! Hear all about the hilarious ways the girls have been petty in the past while in the dating scene.
The countdown to Summer begins! Join your fave Hollywood duo as they kick off this week's episode rounding up the essentials that you'll need for a fun and trendy summer. From fashion tips to healthy eating habits, Jo and Crystal have you covered! Curious what Weddings will look like this year? Let's talk Wedding Season! Hear all about the new Wedding norms and what you can expect for upcoming nuptials.
This week, your favorite Hollywood duo is back with a MAJOR cosmetic update. Join Jo as she updates us on her plastic surgery journey and healing process. In relationship news- your girls dive into why a little jealousy can be a good thing. Want to get up to speed on what's trending in pop culture this week? Don't miss their trend report round-up at the end of the episode!
Let's talk annoying habits. Join Jo and Crystal this week as they confess their annoying traits, compare relationship red flags and layout those relationship insecurities that no one wants to admit. Grad your drinks, Roomies and get ready for another off the wall episode with your favorite Hollywood duo.
Join us this week on PopCandy as we celebrate the 15yr anniversary of Real Housewives of Orange County, dive into our baby fever and exchange weird pet peeve stories.
Join us on the Season 2 Premiere of PopCandy with our special guest, Taran Gray who our Roomies know as Jo's Boyfriend, Broadway Boy.
This week we bring you a surprise sweet treat with a “PopCandy Tell All” episode. What happened since we wrapped Season 1? How’s Jo been handling the loss of her father? What can you expect from PopCandy Season 2? And when the heck are your girls coming coming back?! All of these questions answered and so much more!
On this week’s episode, we celebrate our season 1 finale and talk all things social media!
Join us as we talk about what we look for in guys and why the Instagram feed really does matter.
We also talk about what we’re doing for the holidays and what we have planned for a COVID New Year.
Stay tuned until the end, as we go through our Top 3 New Years Resolutions and see if we can stick to them!
On this week’s episode, we take a trip down memory lane and get ready to wrap our very first season!
Join us on this special anniversary episode as we look back at all the fun memories we’ve had and how life has changed in just one year!
We talk about The Influencer Project and look back at all our misadventures we’ve had on our journey.
Stay tuned until the end, as we give you a sneak Peek into Season 2 and share what’s to come!
On this week’s episode, we talk about the election and some unfortunate hate that came with it.
We also talk about an exciting new reality show in the works and cannot wait to share the details!
Finally we talk about moving on from One Date Wonders and what’s appropriate.
Stay tuned until the end, as we play Never Have I Ever answering for one another to see how much we know about the other!
On this week’s episode, we introduce our very first celebrity guest, Miss Haylie Duff!
We talk about Haylie’s start in the entertainment industry and how much social media has changed since her early days.
We also talk about her incredible clothing line, Little Moon Society, and how the brand came to life.
Stay tuned until the end, as we play a round of PopCandy Confessionals With Haylie in the hot seat this week!
Welcome to PopCandy! In this week’s episode, we talk about impatience and what you can do when you’re in the waiting season. We also talk about pumpkin pressures and the FOMO that can sometimes happen when you don’t join in.
We also talk about guest interview anxiety and everything that goes into planning for guests to come on our show.
Stay tuned until the end, as we play Never Have I Ever, Risque Edition!
On this week’s episode, we continue our Life After Housewives series with our special guest, Miss Ashley Zarlin!
Who better than one of Jo's former castmate and friends to walk us through how she turned online troll hate into a successful fashion and beauty business.
We also talk about being single in your 30’s and why it’s ok to take time for yourself and not be married.
Don't forget to stay tuned until the end, as we play another fun round of PopCandy Confessionals, with Ashley in the hot seat this time!
On this week’s episode, we give our personal tips on how to manage high stress and anxiety.
We also talk about how much life has changed since launching PopCandy and the exciting experiences Crystal’s been going through.
Finally, we explain how the name “Roomies” started and how we chose the name for our loyal audience.
Stay tuned until the end as we play one of our favorite games, Heads Up and attempt to guess the word, blindly!
On this week’s episode, we pick up our Life After Housewives series and welcome former cast member, Miss Lydia McLaughlin!
We talk about what it was like to be a fan of the franchise to then being cast on the show herself.
We talk about the mental toll being on a reality show takes on you and why she decided it was time to say goodbye.
Finally, we talk about her new show, Glitter Town and what it took for her and her mom to become producers.
Stay tuned until the end as we play another round of PopCandy Confessions with Lydia in the hot seat this time!
On this week’s episode we talk about our high’s and low’s of the week, do a PopCandy year in review and talk about how timing is everything.
We also talk about Baby Fever and Crystal opens up about some life insecurities she’s been going through about marriage, babies and owning a home.
Lastly, we talk about what women really want in relationships and how to get your significant other to understand where you’re coming from.
Stay tuned until the end as we play a new game called PopCandy Confessionals and we get candid and spill all the tea.
On this week’s episode, we introduce our very first music artist guest, Miss Cami Julaine.
Also, we talk about the struggles of trying to make it in Hollywood and the pressures of keeping up with appearances.
We also talk about Cancel Culture and the role social media has taken on building your dream career.
Stay tuned until the end, as we play a round of Would You Rather with Cami, PopCulture Edition.
On this week’s episode, we catch up on the much anticipated meeting with Jo & Broadway Boy!
We run through all the celebrity updates and trending news that happened over the weekend.
We also talk about Fall Fashion trends and some content creator breakthroughs and realizations I had this week.
Stay tuned until the end, as we play another karaoke round of Finish The Lyric but this time, 90’s Edition!
Hey Roomies! It's PopCandy Wednesday and we've got a new Episode for you! This week we run through all the life updates and catch you up on what you’ve missed.
We go through some popular beauty myths and debunk the mysteries - should you or shouldn’t you.
We also talk about our dating lives and why girls wearing the pants in the relationship is sometimes hard to do.
Stay tuned until the end, as we play a round of Finish The Lyric - 80’s Edition!
It’s Jo’s birthday week so on this episode, we give our best advice on how to close out a chapter in your life and make sure your next one is even better.
We also talk about body dysmorphia, letting go of insecurities and loving yourself no matter what you see in the mirror.
We talk about taking risks and realizing it’s never too late to chase after your dreams, no matter how old you are.
Stay tuned until the end, as we play a round of Who’s More Likely and you get the tea on who the bad girl between us really is.
On this week’s episode we continue our Life After Housewives series with our special guest!
Who better than the always positive and beautiful Miss Alexis Bellino making her podcast debut on our show!
Join us as we head down to Orange County and talk why she really left the show, launching her dream business and starting over after a breakup.
Stay tuned until the end as Crystal hosts Never Have I Ever and Alexis and I drink to the truth!
On this week’s episode, we talk about quarantine mask struggles and drama as we fill you in on all the tea.
We also announce two new guests coming up on our show as part of the Life After Housewives series.
We talk about our new PopCandy team and our 10 year bucket list of dreams.
Stay tuned until the end as we play a round of This or That Yummy Food Edition
On this week’s episode, we talk about some high’s and low’s of our week and what comes with having a podcast.
We give you guys a little dating and love update and introduce a new boy in Crystal’s life.
We talk about the behind the scenes of pitching magazines and fill you in on an exciting feature coming up.
Stay tuned until the end as Crystal and I reveal 5 Facts You May Not Have Known About Us.
On this week’s episode, we talk about birthday anxiety, Jo’s public meltdowns and why sometimes you just need to let it all out.
We talk about finding your tribe and the importance of serving and encouraging the audience you already have.
We talk about the latest Bachelorette drama and uncover if age and getting older play a factor in this game we call love.
Stay tuned until the end and watch us miserably fail as we play a very rough round of Guess The Gibberish.
On this week’s episode, we pick up our Life After Housewives series and welcome our very first PopCandy guest!
Who better than one of the original Housewives of Orange County AND Jo's former castmate, the lovely Jeana Keough.
Join us behind the Coto gates as Jeana talks Housewives production, life after the cameras stopped rolling and even a few Hollywood adventures.
Stay tuned until the end as we play a round of Would You Rather - Real Housewives Edition!
On this week’s episode we celebrate the one year anniversary since we met and walk you through our best and worst moments.
We talk about the harsh reality of losing followers and why it’s actually a good thing.
We break down the PopCandy the brand and give you an insider's scoop into what it really means to be a Roomie.
Stay tuned until the end for this week’s quarantine edition of Would You Rather
On this week’s episode, we talk about how cabin fever has turned into COVID fever and give ourselves a much needed mood check.
We talk about TikTok and some tabloid rumors we’ve been hearing plus conspiracy theories that’ll be sure to give you goosebumps.
Also, do we have a ghost in our new studio? Tune in as Jo and I share our creepy stories.
As always, stay tuned until the end as we play one of our all time favorite games, Heads Up!
On this week’s episode, we talk about navigating life and love four months into quarantine.
We talk about our PopCandy business struggles and how to keep the dream alive when life hands you lemons instead of lemonade.
We show you what’s in our shopping cart, what our favorite online must-haves are and our current obsessions.
Stay tuned until the end as our PopCandy Games return with a round of Never Have I Ever!
On this week’s episode, we are back together again and talk about city life, in all its craziness!
We talk about our first week in our new PopCandy Studios and how we’ve made it past our freshman year of business.
We also talk about expectations vs real life and how things aren’t always a red carpet moment.
Stay tuned until the end as we spill the tea on our love lives and talk about the guys who just didn’t make the cut.
On this weeks episode we continue with our Solo Summer Segment as Crystal take's the mic for her first solo Episode. First, get caught up on the latest PopCandy studio news and our first experience on the streets of Hollywood. Walk down memory lane with Crystal as she tells you about the many career dreams and how they all lead to where she is today. Plus, stay tuned for 3 tips to Start Building A Life You'll Love. So let's dive right in....
On this week's episode, Jo goes at it alone in her very first solo episode. Jo talks about taking chances, launching PopCandy Productions and getting approved for our first studio space! She also talks about chasing your dreams + following your gut and shares her tips on how to start life over after a breakup.
On this week’s episode we talk about the Black Lives Matter movement and our experience with speaking out about racial injustice for the first time.
We also talk about an exciting move for PopCandy and our new studio we’re getting Plus, Craigslist Psychos and a PSA all girls need to listen to.
This week’s episode is a special Q&A edition!
Today we are answering all your questions on fashion, beauty, love and life sent, in by our PopCandy listeners!
Ok guys, let’s dive in to all these questions...
On this week’s episode, we talk about our first PopCandy drama and how to work through business partner disagreements.
We talk about the celebrity scandal of the week and what’s been trending all over the tabloids.
We go through fashion trends of the 2000’s and get you ready for what’s to come this season.
Stay tuned until the end, for this week’s game of Guess The Word, SummerTime Edition!
On this week’s episode we go through the high’s and low’s of sharing our personal lives on YouTube and what’s it’s been like since we’ve really started. We also talk about how our family and friends really feel since we started our influencer journeys. Join us as we run through our PopCandy Trend Report on the hottest accessory of the moment and what you should be watching and reading this summer. Who’s Most likely to what?! Stay tuned until the end as we run through some super juicy questions.
On this week’s episode we talk about getting our hearts broken and why we love the thrill of the chase.
We also talk about our struggles trying to become YouTubers and how it took us 3 months to finally launch our first videos.
We talk about our PopCandy Instagram and all the super cute fashion and beauty trends that you’ll want to try.
As always, stay tuned until the end as we play a rapid fire game of 20 questions so you can get to know us better.
On this week’s episode we talk about the hottest social media platform and how TikTok has been changing the game.
We also talk about why girls love choosing bad boys and sometimes the good guys just can’t get a break.
We talk about Life After Housewives and what fellow reality tv stars you can expect to hear coming soon on PopCandy.
As always, stay tuned until the end as we use an Instagram Stories filter this week and try to Guess The Gibberish.
On this week’s episode we talk about our new favorite dating reality show and find out if opposites really do attract.
We also talk about the latest quarantine words trending and making its way into Urban Dictionary.
We talk about pivoting your lifestyle and how Hollywood has shifted to work around the quarantine.
As always, stay tuned until the end as we play a rapid fire game of Would You Rather, Staying Home Edition but not before us getting side tracked.
Typical ;)
On this week’s episode we put celebrities in the hot seat and talk about who’s been doing quarantine right and who’s been doing it wrong. We talk about living your best life and how sometimes, you have to make your own rules. We also talk about PopCandy and throw some dreams out there we hope will come true one day. Stay tuned until the end as we play a TV & Film Edition of Would You Rather.
In this week’s episode, we talk about how to not lose yourself in the middle of the chaos.
You’ll also hear about our current guy struggles and whether or not it’s ok to ghost a guy if they’re being a slime.
We also talk about The Influencer Project and how you can think outside the box when you’re trying to build your business.
Stay tuned until the end as we play a round of Name That Song.
On this week’s episode we talk about quarantine life and the toll that it’s taking on our mental health, plus some tips on how to get through this time.
We dive into our dating situation and how this new quarantine way of life has us having to change our dating game.
We also talk about the struggles of being solo content creators now and continuing to grow our PopCandy brand from home.
Make sure you stick around until the end as we announce some exciting PopCandy news!
Welcome to PopCandy, Quarantine Edition.
In this week’s episode, we talk about the Influencer Project and how the Corona Virus has impacted our business.
We talk about the X-Files and how dating can be hard sometimes especially if you’ve ever had a relationship in the public eye.
We also share self-care tips and things you can be doing for yourself while you’re practicing social distancing.
Stay tuned until the end as we play Movie Trivia and test each other’s knowledge on the big screen.
In this week’s episode, we dish out some exciting news and talk about what it’s like to be on top of the iTunes charts.
We read through some of the negative comments since launching our new series, Life After Housewives.
We talk about our lady parts as we hit some new milestones in our friendship.
Also, stay tuned until the end as we play a new game this week called Unpopular Opinion.
In this week’s episode, we’re coming in hot from Jo’s new place in LA.
We talk about weekend shenanigans and hitting new levels of success on the iTunes charts.
We kick off our new series Life After Housewives with an interview from Jo getting her to spill all the housewife tea.
And we skip our game this week to give you our season finale update!
In this week’s episode, we talk about social media and a new use for it you may have never heard of.
We talk about dating and share our thoughts over the pressures of getting older and not finding the one yet.
Finally, we talk about Life After Housewives and what it’s really been like since the cameras stopped rolling for Jo.
And back by popular demand, we play another game of Heads Up!
In this week’s episode, Jo goes down memory lane with her former cast mates from Real Housewives of Orange County.
You’ll also hear Crystal talk about her beauty and style hacks for the busy girl.
We dish ALL the details on what’s an influencer and how exactly do they even make money?!
And as always, stay tuned until the end as we play the SUPER popular game, Head’s Up.
On this week’s episode, we talk about The Influencer Project and failing forward as we go through our journey.
We talk about The Glow-Up and how to appreciate every season of your life.
We talk about social media and how much it’s changed in this crazy digital age of 2020.
Stay tuned until the end as we play a word association game and Jo’s mom picks 10 words for us to spill our thoughts on.
On this week's episode, we are splitting our duo for the day and coming to you from two opposite ends of the city.
We talk about our anti-aging skincare routine & our favorite makeup products from the stores we love.
We talk about what it means to be two Latin girls in the world of Social Media and how we bring our passion and fire into everything we do.
We also talk about how to not lose a sense of who you are when the negative comments start coming your way.
Don’t forget to stay tuned until the end as we play a round of 20 questions.
On this week’s episode we talk about fashion and the one spring trend we’re gonna rock and one trend we’d rather not.
We talk about meeting mishaps that happened this week, looking the part and how to not be hashtag awkward.
Also, we talk about youtube goals and dive into real life body struggles and confidence issues.
And stay tuned until the end where we play a rapid fire game of This or That.
On this episode we get Crystal’s dating profile live on Hinge!
We talk about how life has changed since we started our journey to becoming influencers.
We go through tips on how to stay happy while building your dreams and how to stay positive in the waiting season.
Also, stay tuned until the end for this week’s game where we find out who was almost in a pop girlband and who was almost cast in a movie.
In Episode 2 we talk about launching a new podcast and how it can be just as drama filled as an episode of The Bachelor.
We talk about the best dating apps and the Do’s and Do’s when you’re creating a PopCandy approved profile.
We also talk about getting back into the dating scene, some 2020 financial goals we’ve set and how much we’ve really made up until now.
Make sure you stick around until the end as we play a quickie game of “would you rather”
In their debut episode, Jo De La Rosa & Crystal Nicole introduce The Influencer Project, talk about the reasons they started their PopCandy Podcast & YouTube channel + all the challenges they experienced along the way - tune in for their game at the end!