Relationship Matters: Recent Episodes

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Season 7 Episode 9: Worldwork Reimagined with Michelle Davis

Throughout this powerful conversation, Michelle Davis, CRR Global's Director of Strategic Worldwork and podcast host Katie Churchman reimagine what worldwork could look like if it were embodied and lived. As opposed to being something we do, how can worldwork be an expression of how we relate to people, projects and the world around us?

Worldwork (originally conceptualized by Dr. Arnold Mindell and Dr. Amy Mindell) is a systemic approach and awareness stance for engaging with human relationship systems. It brings attention to both the individual and the collective, helping people work with the dynamics of conflict, identity, culture, emotion and power. Worldwork draws from psychology, ecology and social theory to understand how personal experience and larger social forces shape the way groups, partnerships, communities and organizations evolve. It also helps us to notice how a system expresses itself through roles, signals, patterns and emotional fields.

Worldwork Reimagined recognizes that each of us continually influences the systems we inhabit, whether we are aware of it or not. Although this influence can lead to significant acts of service or community engagement, worldwork always begins with the self. Personal awareness, responsibility and intentional choice form the foundation of meaningful systemic impact.

Michelle Davisis a leadership coach, systems thinker, and champion for connection across differences. As Director of Strategic Worldwork and a faculty member at CRR Global, Michelle empowers leaders and teams to bridge divides, transform conflict and co-create a more just future. With a background in counseling and deep expertise in relationship systems coaching, she helps groups surface hidden barriers and build authentic, purpose-driven collaboration. Guided by values of justice, integrity and love, Michelle is here to help us reimagine what’s possible—together.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Season 7 Episode 8: Finding Right in Relationship with Sandra Cain

In this episode, Katie welcomes CRR Global faculty member, Sandra Cain to the show to talk about finding ‘right’ in a relationship. This is a playful and exploratory conversation in which Sandra and Katie share some of their own, not-so-flattering examples of times when they were so focused on being right that they lost sight of the relationship.

Links to Sandra's previous appearances on the podcast:

Crossing Edges and Returning to the Office
Parenting with a Systems Coaching Lens

Sandra Cainpartners with individuals, partnerships and teams to increase their awareness of their strengths and challenges, boosting effectiveness while also bringing lightness and humor. She incorporates a systems theory approach that reveals potential and resolves conflict. In addition to coaching teams, partnerships and individuals, Sandra’s strengths include team building, leadership development, change management and quoting lines from Monty Python movies. When not working, you’ll find Sandra breaking up a fight between her two cats, hiking or zooming on a river in a vintage speedboat.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Season 7 Episode 7: Grief as a Portal to the Dream with Marita Fridjhon

Grief is everywhere right now. Across the globe, people are mourning what has been lost—lives, livelihoods, ecosystems, certainties and futures they once imagined would be possible. Some losses are sudden and visible. Others are slow, ambiguous and harder to name. What makes this moment particularly challenging is that much of the grief we are carrying has no clear ritual, no shared language and no agreed-upon timeline. We are grieving while still expected to perform, adapt, and move forward.

In systems, unacknowledged grief does not disappear. It goes underground. And from there, it shapes behavior, culture and decision-making. To work with the dreaming nature of systems, we must learn to meet grief not as an obstacle, but as a portal.

Marita Fridjhon is the co-founder of CRR Global and co-creator of Organization and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC™), the first systems coaching methodology accredited by the International Coaching Federation. A veteran coach and respected thought leader, Marita has spent more than three decades developing approaches that strengthen systemic intelligence in individuals, teams and organizations. She serves as a mentor and inspiration to a growing global community of practitioners in relationship systems work.

Marita’s current work focuses on Systems Inspired Evolution, an approach centered on meeting, revealing, aligning and attending to the unseen dynamics that shape collective behavior. She is the co-author of the books Systems Inspired Leadership and Creating Intelligent Teams and the co-creator of the Systems Inspired Supervision model together with Sunčica Getter.

Read Marita's article:
https://systemsinspiredevolution.substack.com/p/grief-as-portal-to-the-dream

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Season 7 Episode 6: Imagination in Relationship with Nairy McMahon

Nairy McMahon, Head of CRR UK, and Katie speak about the importance of imagination in relationships. When we outsource our imagination to other people, technologies, and systems, do we give away our power and our ability to dream beyond our current paradigm? In this playful and explorative discussion, Nairy and Katie look at imagination in relationships using the Three Levels of Reality model, covering how consensus relationships, dreaming, and essence impact our ability to imagine, and discuss ways to bring imagination back into our relationships and our lives.

Nairy McMahon is the head of CRR UK, a CRR Global faculty member, and a certified coach who specializes in supporting boards, C-suites, and executive teams through complex transitions. She partners with leaders navigating mergers, restructuring, funding challenges, and ambitious strategies, helping them stay in relationship through the tensions of transformation. She partners with leaders navigating mergers, restructuring, funding challenges, and ambitious strategies, helping them maintain strong relationships even through the tensions of transformation. Nairy’s work is all about expanding leadership capacity to meet today’s challenges and step courageously into the unknown. She’s passionate about weaving strategy and culture together, supporting organizations in creating purposeful, life-giving futures. Nairy brings a relational lens to every engagement, turning expertise into impact and helping vision take root in strong cultures.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems-Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Connection Empowers with Duncan Müller

In this Connection Empowers Us episode, Katie Churchman talks with CRR Global faculty member Duncan Müller about how we can use connection to deepen our relationships. Throughout the conversation, Duncan and Katie explore how connecting with ourselves helps us connect more deeply with others. The more we hold within ourselves, the more we can hold for others, too. So how can we continue to deepen our connection, including noticing when we are disconnected from ourselves too?

Duncan Müller is a systems-inspired coach on a mission to help teams and leaders work smarter, lead with courage, and stay true to themselves. With over 20 years of corporate experience and a toolkit of top coaching credentials, Duncan empowers global teams to connect, challenge, and create real change. Known for blending empathy and courage, he inspires leaders to be authentic, speak up, and build workplaces where curiosity, freedom, and respect fuel transformation.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Walking the Talk of Relationships First at Work with Keiko Muramatsu and Eijiro Izumi

In this episode, Katie speaks with CRR Global faculty members Keiko Muramatsu and Eijiro Izumi about how the team at CRR Global Japan practices what they preach in their approach to business. This fascinating conversation offers insight into the value of a relationship-first approach to work. Taking time to focus on relationships can feel like a risk in our task-oriented lives, yet as this exploration shows, relationships can be the gift that keeps on giving.

This was a gorgeous example of Worldwork and the power of Relationship Systems Intelligence (RSI™) in action. Get ready to be inspired by the fabulous duo who represent the CRR Japan system in this conversation.

Keiko Muramatsu is a dynamic leadership coach who bridges East and West to help leaders and teams unlock their full potential. With deep expertise in systems coaching, a global perspective, and a background as a national athlete, Keiko empowers people to lead with courage, connection and creativity. She’s passionate about real harmony, bold conversations and inspiring transformation—especially for Asian leaders on the world stage. Keiko’s playful spirit and powerful presence helps organizations thrive together, all in service of helping people and systems flourish. This is Keiko’s second appearance on the podcast; she previously appeared in 2021, discussing how she uses ORSC tools in sports coaching.

Eijiro Izumi is an accomplished leadership coach and organizational consultant with global experience in HR and talent development. With degrees from Kyoto University and the University of Wisconsin, Eijiro has led HR initiatives across the Americas, driven transformation in major corporations, and now empowers teams at a leading automaker. He’s passionate about building workplaces where people find purpose, drive, and inspiration.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Season 7 Episode 3: Why Relationship Matters with Mike Holton

In this conversation, Katie Churchman talks with CRR Global CEO Mike Holton about why relationship matters. Together, they consider how the relationships in our lives — at work, home and in our communities — are a major force for personal and societal growth. Throughout the conversation, Mike and Katie delve into the two-way street of relationships, exploring ways we can find our locus of control through this lens.

Mike Holton is CEO of CRR Global and a systems-inspired coach and facilitator who bridges individual transformation and collective impact. With a unique approach that combines Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC™), somatic awareness, and trauma-informed practices, he empowers leaders and teams to tap into the wisdom within their systems. Michael’s work is all about fostering authentic connection and resilience through courageous dialogue. Get ready for an enlightening conversation that will inspire and illuminate the journey to transformation!

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Season 7 Episode 2: Staying Grounded in a Time of Tension with Martin Klaver

Right now, our world is filled with divisive, conflicting and fear-driven narratives. How do we engage with these systems, whilst also not losing ourselves? In this episode Katie Churchman speaks with Martin Klaver about staying grounded through turbulent times, in a conversation exploring ways to help ourselves and the systems we work with find centre.

Martin Klaver is a systems-inspired coach and facilitator with a passion for group dynamics. He helps teams and organizations unlock their potential by reconnecting with their purpose. As a faculty member at CRR Global, Martin specializes in team coaching, leadership development and acting as a sparring partner. His knowledgeable and slightly rebellious approach fosters strong relationships, which he believes are essential for creating successful teams.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems-Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Season 7 Episode 1: I Just Can't See The Bigger Picture with Sunčica Getter

To kick start Season 7 of the Relationship Matters Podcast, we are delighted to welcome back systems coach and host, Katie Churchman and Sunčica Getter, co-creator of CRR Global’s Systems Inspired™ Supervision Training Program. In this mind-opening conversation, Katie and Suncica explore what it means to accept that we just can’t see the bigger picture yet and probably never will. This is a refreshing and freeing conversation, and essential listening for coaches, leaders and coach supervisors.

Perhaps simply accepting that there is always a ‘bigger picture’ from the lens we’re looking through is enough to take us to a systemic-level balcony—a space where we open ourselves to new ways of seeing and experiencing the world.

Sunčica Getter is a systemic coach, consultant and educator focused on personal and community transformation. With a rich background in coaching, mindfulness, and psychodynamic approaches, Sunčica collaborates with leaders and organizations worldwide — helping them expand awareness and create resilient systems. She co-created the Systems Inspired Coaching Supervision model and holds a master’s degree in consulting and organizational leadership. Beyond her professional work, Sunčica translates poetry and enjoys pottery and nature walks.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

S6. Bonus Episode: The Journey to Becoming a Coach Supervisor

In this bonus episode on Systems Inspired™ coaching supervision, Katie speaks with coach, facilitator and certified coaching supervisor, Katy Stone about her journey.

Key takeaways from this episode:

Coaching supervision is a space for coaches to refresh and renew themselves, a reflective practice and developmental environment where coaches can explore who they want to become as coaches. Great supervision offers a playground for this exploration.
The body is a resource to guide our supervisory approach. We recognize that, as supervisors, we are tools for others' learning and growth.
Supervision offers ways to unlock the power of the ‘inner supervisor’ within ourselves.
Coaching supervision is a process rather than a product. We can embrace and learn from the inherently intelligent, generative and creative supervisory relationship.

Katy Stone, *MA, LPC, PCC, ESIA is a systems-inspired coach, facilitator, and certified coaching supervisor, She supports individuals, leaders and their teams, couples and parents, and coaches to engage more fully with their own wisdom, navigate relational complexity, and co-create transformative change. Katy partners with clients seeking greater alignment, emotional fluency, and systemic awareness. Her approach invites clients to engage the emotional, somatic, and energetic intelligence within their systems in service of authentic and life-giving action.

Katy holds credentials as an Organization and Relationship Systems Certified Coach (ORSCC), a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), Professional Certified Coach (PCC), and a certified coaching supervisor. She has served as faculty for the ORSC core curriculum and teaches in academic and professional settings, including Naropa University and the University of Colorado. Her work is guided by values of curiosity, compassion, embodiment, and courageous dialogue.

Katy believes that transformation emerges when systems slow down enough to listen deeply to themselves and act from what is most alive and true. Her invitation is for individuals and collectives to align with purpose, presence, and possibility.*

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

In this bonus episode, Katie speaks with Director of Continuous Development SunčicaGetter about Systems Inspired™ supervision, why this resource is so important for professional coaches, and developing your inner supervisor.

Key takeaways from this episode:

Supervision allows us to access new levels of awareness and hold them with a sense of intrigue and compassion. It is a powerful space that creates connection and reflection.
Supervision is a slower, holding space that allows us to pause and recognize themes and patterns at individual and collective levels.
We are instruments in our own work, so we must take care of ourselves. In this space, we can rest, restore and bring to the surface patterns that may not be visible to us.
When we develop an inner supervisor, we can bring that greater awareness into many areas of our lives, helping shift patterns within ourselves and the systems in which we live and work.
Patience and pause are essential parts of supervision. Supervision is a process focused on patterns, rather than a product geared toward action. In this space, we can zoom out and connect to the bigger picture in our individual and collective systems.

To listen to Sunčica’s previous episode on Systems Coaching and Mindfulness, click here.

Sunčica Getter, ORSCC, MA, PCC, is a systemic coach, consultant and educator. With over 20 years of experience, her focus is on transformational leadership development and systemic culture change. Sunčica is a faculty member of CRR Global and a UK Faculty Lead and Senior Consultant for Performance Consultants International. Her work in coaching education has seen her train, mentor, and supervise coaches and design and deliver academic, public, and in-house coaching training and accreditation courses. Her experiences collaborating with world-class coaching institutions and a variety of clients have made Sunčica a trusted systemic coaching consultant. She advises companies and institutions on the implementation of systemic coaching and systemic thinking for both organisational and community development.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

CRR Global is the Institute for Systems Inspired Coaching and Leadership.

Season 6 Bonus Episode
The Observer Effect: How Awareness Shapes the Systems Coaching Process

In this conversation, Katie welcomes CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon to the show to discuss the observer effect in systems coaching. Research in relational psychology and systems theory supports the idea that change arises in relationships, not in isolation. The observer effect reminds us that systems work- whether that be in a coaching session or group supervision- is a co-creative process. It is not just about analysing data, but about what becomes possible in the presence of mindful, attuned witnessing.

Key takeaways from this episode:

In physics, the observer effect refers to how the act of observing a phenomenon can change its behavior. While the term originates in quantum mechanics, the concept is increasingly relevant to fields that rely on human presence, awareness, and relational engagement—including coaching supervision.
The observer effect reflects a foundational truth: presence is not neutral. The supervisor is a co-participant in the relational field, actively shaping what unfolds. Observation becomes a force of change—not because of analysis, but because of mindful, attuned witnessing.
Systems workers engaged in this model relational intelligence recognize that their tone, posture, silence, or intuitive nudge can shift the system. Whether through a well-timed pause or a single moment of spacious attention, their presence invites the supervisee to access greater awareness and possibility.
When systems workers bring grounded, intentional presence, they create a field that is safe enough for emergence and brave enough for insight. This presence doesn’t seek to fix, but to facilitate a deepened seeing—one that includes the coach, the client, and the unseen patterns shaping the work.

Marita Fridjhon is co-founder of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She came to this work from an extensive background in clinical social work, community development, process work, family systems therapy, business consulting and alternative dispute resolution. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging differences, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of learning organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Season 6 Bonus Episode
Exploring Right Relationship with Grief

In this powerful conversation, I talk with coach supervisor and CRR faculty member Daphne Taylor about what it means to be in right relationship with death and dying. Whilst this may feel like a heavy topic, we hold it with lightness and love, and in many ways the discussion is as much about what it means to be in right relationship with life and living. This conversation feels important and hopeful, and our intention is to create a space for more conversations like this to happen.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

Simple strategies for opening discussions around death and dying.
An awareness of the complexity of the grief process.
A systemic perspective on how to help someone in grief.
Reflections on the nature of life through the lens of death.
Appreciation of the importance of talking about death.

Daphne Taylor is CRR Global faculty and was Front of Room and Certification faculty over a period of 13 years. Now, she is part of the team producing CRR Global’s new systemic supervision program. Her husband, Paul, was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer in 2015 and given 12-18 months to live. They had been married for 34 years and had a strong, loving relationship and were just emerging from the years of childrearing to planning exciting adventures ahead. Paul lived for 18 months and died in a hospice just after his 60th birthday in 2017.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of faculty and partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Season 6 Bonus Episode
Seeing That Frees: Shifting our perception from a world of objects to a web of relationship

In this podcast, Katie Churchman speaks with CRR Global faculty member Janet Frood and Systems worker Tom Mansfield about the Cards for Life project and its applications in coaching and organizational development. The project was designed to bridge personal development and environmental awareness, serving as "permission slips" or "portals" to shift perspectives, access emotions, and facilitate deeper conversations in team and organizational settings. Throughout this conversation, they explore ways to synthesise different concepts and experiences, leverage the wisdom of nature within systems coaching, and embody metaskills. This fascinating conversation invites us to connect our inner personal work with outer systemic concerns, offering coaches practical ways to shift emotional fields in their work.

https://paleblueperspective.com/cards-for-life

Janet Frood is an executive, leadership, and team coach and founder of Horizon Leadership Institute, based in Canada. She is a caring and provocative ally for leaders and organizations as they boldly transform. She is also a sought-after workshop facilitator on topics including change resilience, team trust, and courageous leadership. She is skilled in developing the relationship architecture of teams and fostering conditions for a healthy organizational culture. Janet recognizes the grounding and regenerative power of the natural world and weaves nature-based experiences and labyrinth facilitation work into team coaching and retreat offerings. These practices invite clients to engage in deeper reflection, somatic awareness, and holistic integration.

Tom Mansfield has developed the tool Cards for Life, which supports individuals and teams to bring living systems thinking into cultures and organizations. The cards work as a guidance system and a shared language to define regeneration in particular situations, sectors, and contexts. He's the founder of Pale Blue, where he offers coaching and consulting in service to planetary health and creates frameworks for regenerative practice in business and organizational design.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with CRR Global faculty member Stephen Burke about the importance of pre-framing. Pre-framing involves considering the lens through which we look before stepping into a conversation, meeting, or project. In this conversation, we explore how pre-framing can help systems workers and their clients navigate conflict, change, and uncertainty. Whether we are delivering difficult news or providing feedback, how might the way we frame the conversation help us to positively influence the emotional field.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

Awareness around the power and importance of pre-framing in coaching
Strategies for shifting the lenses we look through
An understanding of the impact of unconscious energy
Tools for consciously thinking about how you want to ‘BE’ in any given situation
Appreciation of the importance of metaskills and conscious and intentional impact

Stephen Burke is a teaching faculty member for CRR Global’s Organization and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) training. He combines deep corporate experience, knowledge of startup and innovation processes, and extensive global executive and team coaching and leadership development experience to develop leaders and startup teams globally. An Aerospace Engineer who also holds a master’s degree in Mindfulness studies and holds the ICFs PCC and ACTC certifications. British by birth, German by naturalization and a US permanent resident, Stephen considers himself a citizen of the world and has worked globally.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Energy Part 3: The impact of directing positive energy into the world

What you’ll gain from this episode:

How to learn how to access different energies within ourselves that we’d like to experience more in the world.
The power of broadcasting energy
Ways to attune to the body’s intelligence and incorporate this wisdom into coaching.
How energy awareness allows us to access the essence of the three levels of reality.
The importance of attending to energetic fields, using sounds, smell, and movement.

Click here to listen to Part 1: The Importance of Energy Awareness in Systems Coaching and Part 2: Navigating and Managing Other People's Energy.

Molly Flanagan has over 18 years of experience as a coach, facilitator, and organizational culture expert, bringing a unique blend of professional expertise and deep holistic practices to her work. Her global perspective as a United Nations international civil servant has shaped her approach, guiding clients through complex transitions with compassion, clarity, and vision. At the heart of her mission is the cultivation of intimacy, embodiment, and flourishing within human systems, while building a more vibrant, just future for all. Molly’s clients are purpose-driven leaders and organizations ready to expand their impact and redesign their lives and workplaces with courage, creativity, and care.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Energy Part 2: Navigating and managing other people’s energy

What you’ll gain from this episode:

Tips for creating more energy hygiene for yourself and your relationships.
An understanding of energy dissonance and coherence in our relationships.
Ways to bring more energy harmonization into your life
The importance of revealing the emotional field to a system
The power of rituals to clear our energy between meetings.

Click here to listen to Part 1: The Importance of Energy Awareness in Systems Coaching.

Molly Flanagan has over 18 years of experience as a coach, facilitator, and organizational culture expert, bringing a unique blend of professional expertise and deep holistic practices to her work. Her global perspective as a United Nations international civil servant has shaped her approach, guiding clients through complex transitions with compassion, clarity, and vision. At the heart of her mission is the cultivation of intimacy, embodiment, and flourishing within human systems, while building a more vibrant, just future for all. Molly’s clients are purpose-driven leaders and organizations ready to expand their impact and redesign their lives and workplaces with courage, creativity, and care.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Energy Part 1: The Importance of Energy Awareness in Systems Coaching

What you’ll gain from this episode:

An understanding of why energy awareness is essential in Relationship work.
Strategies for tuning into energy, in yourself, and with others
Awareness of why being aware of your energy is essential as a coach
Using energy to create a certain impact
An awareness of the power of energy to shift emotional fields.

Molly Flanagan has over 18 years of experience as a coach, facilitator, and organizational culture expert, bringing a unique blend of professional expertise and deep holistic practices to her work. Her global perspective as a United Nations international civil servant has shaped her approach, guiding clients through complex transitions with compassion, clarity, and vision. At the heart of her mission is the cultivation of intimacy, embodiment, and flourishing within human systems, while building a more vibrant, just future for all. Molly’s clients are purpose-driven leaders and organizations ready to expand their impact and redesign their lives and workplaces with courage, creativity, and care.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

An understanding of how to use reflective practice to update and reimagine the stories we tell ourselves
An awareness of reflective practice as a powerful ally for crossing edges.
Insight into how reflective practice can create space within our internal landscape.
Using reflective practice as a tool for understanding the themes and patterns of our lives.
Vulnerable examples from Alfred about how reflective practice has helped him to build relationship with different parts of himself.

Alfred De Pew is a cultural worker, writer, painter and process facilitator who has taught a the Universities of Vermont & New Hampshire, the Maine Arts college, and Haystack Mountain School of Crafts. His writing workshops have been sponsored by The Maine Writers and Publishers Alliance and various community programs throughout the United States and Canada. He served for several years on the faculty of CRR Global as an individual supervisor, certification cohort leader, front of room leader and director of supervision. He lives in Vancouver BC where he offers spiritual accompaniment, astrological consultation, energy work, support for community leader, clergy, writers, artists, intuitive and healing arts practitioners.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

The significance of unfolding in the process of reflective practice.
An understanding of the importance of slowing down and feeling into the body in reflective practice.
Ways to enlist the help of the observer, as opposed to blocking them through interpretation and judgement.
Techniques for deepening signals that show up in reflective practice so that we can amplify and understand them more deeply.
Examples from Alfred and Katie that demonstrate how inner work can impact our outer world.

Alfred De Pew is a cultural worker, writer, painter and process facilitator who has taught a the Universities of Vermont & New Hampshire, the Maine Arts college, and Haystack Mountain School of Crafts. His writing workshops have been sponsored by The Maine Writers and Publishers Alliance and various community programs throughout the United States and Canada. He served for several years on the faculty of CRR Global as an individual supervisor, certification cohort leader, front of room leader and director of supervision. He lives in Vancouver BC where he offers spiritual accompaniment, astrological consultation, energy work, support for community leader, clergy, writers, artists, intuitive and healing arts practitioners.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

An insight into the power of reflective practice as a tool for understanding ourselves better in relationship to the world.
Awareness of how to build reflective practice into your life through journalling, free-writing and drawing.
Ways to allow our authentic voice to emerge in reflective practice, without editing it out or blocking.
Techniques that will help you to sit in the process rather than focus on the output or destination.
Colourful examples from Alfred about the influential impact of journaling in his life as a teacher, coach and mentor.

Alfred De Pew is a cultural worker, writer, painter and process facilitator who has taught a the Universities of Vermont & New Hampshire, the Maine Arts college, and Haystack Mountain School of Crafts. His writing workshops have been sponsored by The Maine Writers and Publishers Alliance and various community programs throughout the United States and Canada. He served for several years on the faculty of CRR Global as an individual supervisor, certification cohort leader, front of room leader and director of supervision. He lives in Vancouver BC where he offers spiritual accompaniment, astrological consultation, energy work, support for community leader, clergy, writers, artists, intuitive and healing arts practitioners.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Is the story you're telling expansive or limiting? In this episode of the Relationship Matters podcast, Kiki Kesseler and host Katie Churchman discuss the importance of the narrative in coaching. Kiki, a CRR Global faculty member with 20 years of experiences, emphasizes how stories shape our reality and agency. She shares recollections that highlight the need for conscious and intentional storytelling.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

Greater awareness of the power of storytelling in everyday life
An understanding of stories as lenses we look through that shape our lives
Tools for changing or updating unhelpful or outdated narratives
How to empower ourselves and others by shifting the narrative
Vulnerable examples from Kiki and Katie about some of the stories they have worked with in their personal lives.

Kiki Kesseler is a CRR Global faculty member for both courses and the certification programme. Kiki focuses on people development and brings 20+ years of experience in cultural diversity, coaching, training, and team management across various industries, with corporate roles in Sales & Marketing, Business Development, and Training. She specializes in team development, conflict resolution, leadership skills, and systemic coaching. Originally from The Netherlands, she speaks Dutch, English, and German. Her cross-cultural experience was established through living in Austria, the United States, Germany and the UAE over the past 18 years, working within culturally diverse environments, organizations and teams.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this Masterclass episode, we'll dive deep into team coaching—a practice transforming how teams collaborate, communicate, and achieve extraordinary results. In this compilation episode, we’ve handpicked some of the most insightful moments from our archives to bring you the essential principles, strategies, and tools that every coach, leader, or team member needs to know.

So, whether you’re coaching a team through a tough transition, looking to boost collaboration, or simply passionate about helping teams thrive, this episode is for you. Get ready to be inspired, challenged, and equipped with the insights you need to elevate your coaching practice and create high-performing teams.

Guests featured in this Masterclass episode (all hyperlinked to their respective episodes) are as follows:

S.4.23 Martin Klever
S.4.6 Faith Fuller
S.3.5 Maddie Weinreich
S.3.18 Floyd Carlson
S.4.13 Marita Fridjhon
S.3.19 Terrance Turpin
S.4.5 Lori Shook
S.5.6 Marita Fridjhon
S.5.18 Judy van Zon & Faith Fuller

Masterclass Series: This is a specially curated collection of episodes from the podcast archives designed to provide both a taster of the Organizational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) approach and a valuable refresher on its breadth and potential. Each episode explores key concepts and themes of the ORSC approach, offering practical insights on enhancing relationships, managing change, and fostering collaboration in various contexts. Join us to learn how ORSC can help you build stronger, more resilient systems in both personal and professional spheres.

Other episodes in the Masterclass series include:

ORSC Essentials: A Primer on Organizational & Relationship Systems Coaching
Emotional Intelligence Masterclass: A deep dive into self-awareness & personal growth

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with CRR Global faculty member and UK partner Nairy McMahon about toxic communication and overcoming unhealthy patterns in our relationships. Across this conversation, they discuss and explore how to break free from unskill communication patterns by raising awareness, creating space, and owning what we want in a relationship.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

Insight into different types of toxic communication patterns in relationships.
An understanding of how toxic communication patterns can become normalized and unconscious in our relationships.
Ways to become more aware of these signals or patterns in our relationships.
Tools that enable us to be more at choice and more conscious of how we show up in our everyday conversations.
Vulnerable and authentic examples from Nairy and Katie about how these unskillful communication patterns appear in their lives, professionally and personally.

Click here to listen to Nariy and Katie's previous conversation on Exploring our Relationship with the Toxins.

Nairy McMahon is CRR Global’s Director of Business Development, faculty member and Head of CRR UK. She is a CTI-trained coach and ORSC Certified practitioner with a corporate background, having worked in banking and property development. She has spent the past 10 years collaborating and running a private investment company in London. She also has acted as a business advisor to a number of start-ups. She has a strong interest in teams, especially culturally diverse teams and has lived on four continents.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In the second of this two-part mini-series on the Third Entity, CRR Global faculty members Yuri Morikawa and Fuyuo Sato dive deeper into the concept of the Third Entity, exploring how to lead with it and learn from it. This episode focuses on unlocking the power of shared growth, demonstrating how the Third Entity becomes a teacher and a guide in co-coaching and co-facilitating relationships. Yuri and Fuyuo share stories and strategies for navigating challenges, fostering collaboration, and embracing the unexpected lessons that emerge from the relationship itself. Through practical examples and thought-provoking insights, they illustrate how the Third Entity can help co-coaches and co-leaders grow together while creating richer, more dynamic relationships.

What You’ll Gain from This Episode:

How to “listen” to the Third Entity and respond to its needs.
Techniques for staying curious and open to learning within partnerships.
Ways to leverage challenges as opportunities for mutual growth.
Insights into the transformative power of shared leadership.
Practices to continuously evolve and strengthen your collaborative relationships.

Click here to listen to part one: Laying the Foundation for Strong Relationships.

Fuyuo Sato is a senior faculty member at CRR Global and an experienced coach with a passion for transforming relationships in teams and organizations. He began his career as a teacher before taking an in-house position as a coach for his coworkers at the school he was working at in Tokyo. Since becoming an independent coach, he has worked on a variety of organizational development initiatives, mostly in the APAC region, with both large multinational corporations and local small businesses. He has supported his client teams in becoming more autonomous and self-sustainable. He now lives in the forested area of Nagano with his wife and two cats as part of his experiment to explore the right relationship between nature and human society.

Yuri Morikawa has been a professional coach since 2004, training and coaching over 1,000 leaders and coaches worldwide, including corporate executives, NGO leaders, and entrepreneurs. Previously, she worked as a management consultant specializing in organizational and leadership development for 13 years. Yuri is a global faculty member of CRR Global and the founder of CRR Japan, where she launched the ORSC program in 2009. Passionate about social impact, she collaborates with NGOs like the Kamonohashi Project and Asia Rural Institute, focusing on leadership development and social change in Asia and Africa.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

What is the Third Entity, and how can we get even more deliberate in working with it? It's a key idea in systems inspired coaching, since we work directly with the unique and dynamic "personality" that is created when two people come together in relationship. In this first episode of a two-part series, CRR Global faculty members Yuri Morikawa and Fuyuo Sato explore how they foster trust, alignment, and creativity by intentionally cultivating their Third Entity.

Through personal insights and professional experiences, Yuri and Fuyuo share foundational principles for building strong relationships and provide actionable strategies to enhance collaboration. Whether you’re a coach, facilitator, or leader, this episode will deepen your understanding of relational dynamics and set the stage for more effective and meaningful partnerships.

What You’ll Gain from This Episode:

Learn what the Third Entity is and why focusing on the relationship itself can transform your co-coaching and co-facilitation partnerships.
Discover how to set the foundation for strong relationships through clear agreements, role clarity, and shared values.
Gain insights on how to turn diverse styles and perspectives into strengths that drive creativity and alignment.
Explore practical tips for improving communication, including active listening, feedback exchange, and fostering curiosity.
Learn how to maintain and nurture the Third Entity over time with regular check-ins, reflections, and adaptive practices.

Fuyuo Sato is a senior faculty member at CRR Global and an experienced coach with a passion for transforming relationships in teams and organizations. He began his career as a teacher before taking an in-house position as a coach for his coworkers at the school he was working at in Tokyo. Since becoming an independent coach, he has worked on a variety of organizational development initiatives, mostly in the APAC region, with both large multinational corporations and local small businesses. He has supported his client teams in becoming more autonomous and self-sustainable. He now lives in the forested area of Nagano with his wife and two cats as part of his experiment to explore the right relationship between nature and human society.

Yuri Morikawa has been a professional coach since 2004, training and coaching over 1,000 leaders and coaches worldwide, including corporate executives, NGO leaders, and entrepreneurs. Previously, she worked as a management consultant specializing in organizational and leadership development for 13 years. Yuri is a global faculty member of CRR Global and the founder of CRR Japan, where she launched the ORSC program in 2009. Passionate about social impact, she collaborates with NGOs like the Kamonohashi Project and Asia Rural Institute, focusing on leadership development and social change in Asia and Africa.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this Masterclass on Emotional Intelligence, we'll explore self-awareness—a critical skill for personal growth, effective leadership, and nurturing meaningful relationships. In this Masterclass, we’ve curated a series of insightful clips from some of our most powerful episodes, each offering unique perspectives and practical strategies for enhancing emotional intelligence. Whether you want to improve your relationships or enhance your professional interactions, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and strategies to help you develop and refine your emotional intelligence.

Guests featured in this Masterclass episode (all hyperlinked to their respective episodes) are as follows:

S.5.10 Judy Van Zon & Irith Koster
S.3.8 Floyd Carlson
S.4.11 Cynthia Loy Darst
S.4.30 Kiki Kesseler
S.5.19 Rebecca Hou & Jie Zhou
S.5.18 Neil Edwards
S.4.26 Mike Holton
S.5.13 Yuri Morikawa
S.4.9 Marita Fridjhon
S.5.9 Suncica Getter

Masterclass Series: This is a specially curated collection of episodes from the podcast archives designed to provide both a taster of the Organizational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) approach and a valuable refresher on its breadth and potential. Each episode explores key concepts and themes of the ORSC approach, offering practical insights on enhancing relationships, managing change, and fostering collaboration in various contexts. Join us to learn how ORSC can help you build stronger, more resilient systems in both personal and professional spheres.

Other episodes in the Masterclass series include:

ORSC Essentials: A Primer on Organizational & Relationship Systems Coaching

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this reflective episode of Relationship Matters, host Katie Churchman and CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller invite listeners to explore the body as a profound doorway to personal and relational transformation. Drawing from her own experiences, Faith shares how her evolving relationship with her changing body has become a channel for development and awe-inspiring insight.

Through moments of stillness and awareness, Faith reveals how embracing the body’s finite nature can be a gateway to wisdom and profound presence. She discusses the challenges of navigating physical changes and how they have offered her transformative lessons—inviting listeners to slow down, listen, and honor the body's wisdom.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

Learn how to cultivate a reciprocal relationship with your body.
Discover the transformative power of listening to your body’s signals.
Unlock the body’s potential as a source of wisdom and awe.
Explore how awareness of the body’s finite nature fosters gratitude and presence.
Gain insights on turning physical challenges into opportunities for growth and resilience.

Faith Fuller is co-founder of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples, and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed for effective change to occur. Her particular skill empowers powerful, productive, and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships, and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution, and community crisis intervention.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode of the Relationship Matters podcast, Katie Churchman is joined by CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller to explore the delicate balance between a coach’s vision for their client and the client’s own journey. They dive into the challenges of wanting more for clients than they want for themselves and discuss how to foster authentic growth without overstepping.

What you’ll gain from this episode:

Insights into respecting a client’s unique pace and journey.
Strategies for balancing support and client autonomy.
Ways to manage your own expectations as a coach.
Techniques for empowering clients to take ownership of their growth.
Practical advice on maintaining boundaries in the coaching relationship.

Faith Fuller is co-founder of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples, and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed for effective change to occur. Her particular skill empowers powerful, productive, and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships, and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution, and community crisis intervention.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across this Masterclass on ORSC Essentials, you’ll experience the transformative power of ORSC, which integrates systems thinking with coaching techniques to enhance relationships, navigate change, and foster collaboration. The masterclass will introduce you to leading experts in the field who explore some of the key mindsets and methodologies that define this powerful framework for coaching and life. Whether you’re new to ORSC or seeking to deepen your practice, this masterclass will offer insights into how ORSC can be applied across personal, professional, and organizational contexts to create more resilient and dynamic systems & a healthier and more connected world.

Guests featured in this Masterclass episode (all hyperlinked to their respective episodes) are as follows:

S.1.7 - Faith Fuller
S.4.7 - Marita Fridjhon
S.4.19- Sandra Cain & Maddie Weinreich
S.5.14 - Frank Uit de Weerd
S.4.B1 - Judy Van Zon & Katherine Starks
S.2.10 - Floyd Carlson
S.5.15 - Nairy McMahon
S.4.10 - Cynthia Loyd Darst
S.5.3 - Kiki Kesseler
S.1.14 - Faith Fuller

Masterclass Series: This is a specially curated collection of episodes from the podcast archives designed to provide both a taster of the Organizational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) approach and a valuable refresher on its breadth and potential. Each episode explores key concepts and themes of the ORSC approach, offering practical insights on enhancing relationships, managing change, and fostering collaboration in various contexts. Join us to learn how ORSC can help you build stronger, more resilient systems in both personal and professional spheres.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Merger and Individuation in personal and relationship growth

In the premiere of season 6 of the Relationship Matters podcast, host Katie Churchman is joined by CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller to discuss the delicate balance between individuation and merging in relationships. Together, they explore how honoring both individuality and connection is essential for building healthy, resilient partnerships. How can we be true to ourselves while fully committing to our relationships? How does recognizing this balance contribute to healthier, more resilient partnerships?

What you’ll gain from this conversation:

Insights into the importance of balancing “me” and “we” in relationships.
Strategies for supporting individual growth while maintaining connection.
Tips for fostering mutual support in partnerships.
Practical tools for navigating boundaries and closeness.
Understanding the role of communication in balancing autonomy and intimacy.

Faith Fuller is co-founder of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples, and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed for effective change to occur. Her particular skill empowers powerful, productive, and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships, and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution, and community crisis intervention.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this 4-part bonus series on ORSC and parenting, Katie Churchman explores parenting through the lens of ORSC with CRR Global Co-founder Faith Fuller and senior faculty member Sandra Cain. Across this 4-part bonus series, Sandra takes the role of host, allowing Katie to embrace being a guest on the show as a new mum to twin girls. These 4 episodes were recorded across a 6-month period, so different life experiences, challenges, and changes have informed the evolution of this conversation. Part 1 provides an overview of the topic, and parts 2, 3, and 4 explore ORSC and parenting through the different relationship dimensions: Relationship Intelligence, Relationship Geography, and Relationship Path.

In part 4, we look at parenting through the lens of Relationship Path. This includes dreaming, original myth, 3 levels of reality and myth change.

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs, and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with various leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do, and how we live.

Faith Fuller is co-founder and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples, and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed for effective change to occur. Her particular skill empowers powerful, productive, and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships, and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution, and community crisis intervention.

Katie Churchman hosts the Relationship Matters podcast and is a Front of the Room faculty member at CRR Global. As an ICF Professional Certified Coach (PCC), certified in Organisational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSCC) & the ICF’s Advanced Certification in Team Coaching (ACTC), Katie helps leaders, teams & organizations find clarity & direction so that they can take ownership of goals and achieve results. Her coaching sessions are designed to deliver maximum impact and measurable growth specific to business objectives, professional aspirations & personal goals. Katie is passionate about bringing great communication skills & leadership development to organizations worldwide to build positive cultures & create tangible, sustainable change. Katie specializes in coaching individuals & teams across various areas, including Leadership Development, Change Mindset, Personal Impact, Presentation Skills, Effective Communication, and Storytelling. She is goal-orientated and energetic & enjoys working with a fun, focused approach.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this 4-part bonus series on ORSC and parenting, Katie Churchman explores parenting through the lens of ORSC with CRR Global Co-founder Faith Fuller and senior faculty member Sandra Cain. Across this 4-part bonus series, Sandra takes the role of host, allowing Katie to embrace being a guest on the show as a new mum to twin girls. These 4 episodes were recorded across a 6-month period, so different life experiences, challenges, and changes have informed the evolution of this conversation. Part 1 provides an overview of the topic, and parts 2, 3, and 4 explore ORSC and parenting through the different relationship dimensions: Relationship Intelligence, Relationship Geography, and Relationship Path.

In part 3, we look at parenting through the lens of Relationship Geography. This includes lands, inner and outer roles, and time-spirits,

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs, and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with various leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do, and how we live.

Faith Fuller is co-founder and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples, and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed for effective change to occur. Her particular skill empowers powerful, productive, and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships, and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution, and community crisis intervention.

Katie Churchman hosts the Relationship Matters podcast and is a Front of the Room faculty member at CRR Global. As an ICF Professional Certified Coach (PCC), certified in Organisational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSCC) & the ICF’s Advanced Certification in Team Coaching (ACTC), Katie helps leaders, teams & organizations find clarity & direction so that they can take ownership of goals and achieve results. Her coaching sessions are designed to deliver maximum impact and measurable growth specific to business objectives, professional aspirations & personal goals. Katie is passionate about bringing great communication skills & leadership development to organizations worldwide to build positive cultures & create tangible, sustainable change. Katie specializes in coaching individuals & teams across various areas, including Leadership Development, Change Mindset, Personal Impact, Presentation Skills, Effective Communication, and Storytelling. She is goal-orientated and energetic & enjoys working with a fun, focused approach.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this 4-part bonus series on ORSC and parenting, Katie Churchman explores parenting through the lens of ORSC with CRR Global Co-founder Faith Fuller and senior faculty member Sandra Cain. Across this 4-part bonus series, Sandra takes the role of host, allowing Katie to embrace being a guest on the show as a new mum to twin girls. These 4 episodes were recorded across a 6-month period, so different life experiences, challenges, and changes have informed the evolution of this conversation. Part 1 provides an overview of the topic, and parts 2, 3, and 4 explore ORSC and parenting through the different relationship dimensions: Relationship Intelligence, Relationship Geography, and Relationship Path.

In part 2, we look at parenting through the lens of Relationship Intelligence. This includes edge-crossing, rank, deep democracy, the constant nature of change, and the idea of “who knows what is good or what is bad.”

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs, and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with various leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do, and how we live.

Faith Fuller is co-founder and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples, and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed for effective change to occur. Her particular skill empowers powerful, productive, and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships, and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution, and community crisis intervention.

Katie Churchman hosts the Relationship Matters podcast and a Front of the Room faculty member at CRR Global. As an ICF Professional Certified Coach (PCC), certified in Organisational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSCC) & the ICF’s Advanced Certification in Team Coaching (ACTC), Katie helps leaders, teams & organizations find clarity & direction so that they can take ownership of goals and achieve results. Her coaching sessions are designed to deliver maximum impact and measurable growth specific to business objectives, professional aspirations & personal goals. Katie is passionate about bringing great communication skills & leadership development to organizations worldwide to build positive cultures & create tangible, sustainable change. Katie specializes in coaching individuals & teams across various areas, including Leadership Development, Change Mindset, Personal Impact, Presentation Skills, Effective Communication, and Storytelling. She is goal-orientated and energetic & enjoys working with a fun, focused approach.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this 4-part bonus series on ORSC and parenting, Katie Churchman explores parenting through the lens of ORSC with CRR Global Co-founder Faith Fuller and senior faculty member Sandra Cain. Across this 4-part bonus series, Sandra takes the role of host, allowing Katie to embrace being a guest on the show as a new mum to twin girls. These 4 episodes were recorded across a 6-month period, so different life experiences, challenges, and changes have informed the evolution of this conversation. Part 1 provides an overview of the topic, and parts 2, 3, and 4 explore ORSC and parenting through the different relationship dimensions: Relationship Intelligence, Relationship Geography, and Relationship Path.

Part 1 provides a flyover of some of the ways ORSC can help us to understand parenting. Looking through the lens of ORSC, what can we learn about parenting, and what can it teach us about ourselves at a personal, relational, and societal level?

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs, and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with various leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do, and how we live.

Faith Fuller is co-founder and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples, and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed for effective change to occur. Her particular skill empowers powerful, productive, and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships, and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution, and community crisis intervention.

Katie Churchman hosts the Relationship Matters podcast and a Front of the Room faculty member at CRR Global. As an ICF Professional Certified Coach (PCC), certified in Organisational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSCC) & the ICF’s Advanced Certification in Team Coaching (ACTC), Katie helps leaders, teams & organizations find clarity & direction so that they can take ownership of goals and achieve results. Her coaching sessions are designed to deliver maximum impact and measurable growth specific to business objectives, professional aspirations & personal goals. Katie is passionate about bringing great communication skills & leadership development to organizations worldwide to build positive cultures & create tangible, sustainable change. Katie specializes in coaching individuals & teams across various areas, including Leadership Development, Change Mindset, Personal Impact, Presentation Skills, Effective Communication, and Storytelling. She is goal-orientated and energetic & enjoys working with a fun, focused approach.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with senior faculty member at CRR Global, David Wikander, about the importance of listening to understand in our relationships. Across this conversation, they discuss:

What does it mean to really listen?
What leads to us feeling misunderstood or unheard in our relationships?
The impact of energy on our listening
The importance of timing when it comes to listening
Creating skilful behavioral contracts with our partners around WHEN and HOW we listen

David Wikander is a Senior Faculty member with CRR Global, certified with Team Diagnostic, and a certified Co-Active Coach. David’s approach is systems & relationship-oriented, whether he is working with teams, couples or individuals. This approach holds that we are always in relationship, whether the relationship is to the many aspects of our self, the relationship we have with others in our personal life, or the relationship we have within a team or organization.

Part of what David brings to his coaching is immense diversity in education, training, mentoring, teaching, leadership development and workshop leading, as well as developing and operating several highly successful businesses. He adds to this his own lifelong personal and spiritual growth path.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty members Rebecca Hou and Jie Zhou about harmony and conflict. Across the conversation, they discuss:

The relationship between harmony and conflict
Why we need to embrace both as systems coaches
The challenges that can arise if we are biased towards one or the other
The importance of holding the voice of harmony and the voice of conflict as coaches

Rebecca Hou is an ICF Master Certified Coach, Executive/Leadership Coach and Training Consultant. She is also a faculty member and Front of the Room Leader at CTI and CRR Global. She leads professional coaching certification programs: including Co-Active Coaching, ORSC, Neuroscience Consciousness & Transformational Coaching. She is also a mentor coach, supervisor, and examiner for certification coach students. Her major focus areas are one-to-one leadership coaching, team coaching and the design and delivery of training workshops.

Jie Zhou is a leadership trainer and team coach, and CRR Global faculty. After working for 20+ years in government, start-up, and multinational corporations, she realized the value of unleashing individual and team leadership potential. Encouraged by her hands-on coaching and training experiences for her team, she made a career change from Strategy, Market & Technology Head to a freelance coach and trainer. She has a bachelor's degree of finance from Fudan University and an MBA from Darden Business School at the University of Virginia, USA.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member Neil Edwards about positive aspects. Across the conversation, they discuss:

The importance of becoming aware of positive aspects
The impact of the brain’s negative bias
How positive aspects can be an ally for difficult conversations
The ongoing learning journey surrounding emotional intelligence
Ways we can become more familiar with positive & negative aspects, both in ourselves and the systems we work and live within

Neil Edwards is a Front of the Room Leader and Certification Faculty for CRR Global. Neil specializes in expanding range and strengthening resilience for leaders and creating capacity and capability of teams and organizational systems to be positive, productive, and agile in the face of change. He coaches and teaches individuals, teams, and larger organizational systems to identify values, define purpose, act intentionally, think systemically, be inclusive, and nurture wellbeing. He has extensive experience coaching accountants, engineers, attorneys, MBAs, executives, and finance; brand; and IT professionals in corporations, government, and professional services.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR co-founder Faith Fuller about the recent release of her new book, ‘Relationship Matters: A New Paradigm for an Evolutionary Leap in Relationship.’ Relationship Matters is now available to purchase online from Amazon, and there are hardback, paper cover and Kindle editions available. An audiobook version is coming soon.

From family and friends, to romantic partners, professional interactions, and community connections, relationships are an integral part of life. Just as our heart pumps blood throughout our physical bodies to keep us alive, relationships are the lifeblood that helps keep our social and emotional worlds going.

Despite the importance of relationships, many of us struggle when it comes to creating healthy and meaningful ones. We are incredibly advanced in science, technology, and medicine – yet when it comes to getting along with others we struggle.

Fortunately, there is a better way to approach any relationship in life—and Relationship Matters will show you how. First, you will learn that relationships operate as interdependent, interactive systems. In fact, in any relationship at any level, there is a relationship between the two parties – known as the “third entity” – that is greater and more powerful than the separate individuals in that system. No matter how close or distant a relationship may be, the third entity is always present and available for you to tap into, with its reservoir of deep wisdom. In Relationship Matters, Faith Fuller reveals the universal principles that underpin all relationship systems, which will ultimately help you:

Understand what relationship intelligence is and why it is critical to human evolution
Develop Relationship Warriorship
Unlock the hidden potential in conflict
Identify new options for navigating difficult relationships
Build life-changing relationships - especially with yourself

Relationships aren’t something you “do” in your spare time – they are embedded in everything you do! By understanding these relationship systems, you will finally be able to cultivate positive, healthy relationships within yourself and with those closest to you, while contributing to the evolution of relationships on a global level…because all relationships matter.

Faith Fuller is co-founder and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams . She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie welcomes back Faith Fuller, co-founder of CRR Global & Judy van Zon, a senior faculty member at CRR Global, to talk about ORSC and spiritual intelligence. Across this conversation, they discuss:

Why ORSC and spirituality?
What is spiritual intelligence?
How can spiritual intelligence help us as coaches?
What are some ways we can access or harness our own spiritual intelligence? And that of our clients?
Some of the benefits of spiritual practice- personally and professionally

Faith Fuller is a co-founder of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

Judy van Zon has lived and worked in several countries and speaks the language of people who are crossing a border, physically as well as emotionally. In short, she works with people who are going through personal or professional change. One of the things that sets her apart is her inclusion of spirituality to help her clients better connect to their own inner wisdom and power. In her team coaching, Judy believes that working with the ORSC model is a very powerful way to build bridges in relationships. It goes far beyond familiar skills like empathy and active listening. It offers a whole new way of looking at people and how we live and work together. Her focus is on working with corporate leaders and teams. Training others in this allows her to spread this energy throughout the world. For the last 25 years, she has lived and worked in six countries on three continents, the last 3.5 years in India and the region around. She is now back in the Netherlands and, as well as being a senior faculty member, was the former Director of Certification at CRR Global. Judy speaks Dutch, English, German, Spanish, and French.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Nairy McMahon, CRR Global’s Director of Business Development, faculty member, and Head of CRR UK, about our relationship with toxins. Across this conversation, they discuss:

The benefit of becoming aware of the toxins
Integrating the antidotes to create long-term behavioral change
The value of viewing the toxins through the lens of relationship
The subtle and sophisticated ways toxic behaviors can show up in our relationships
The importance of slowing down to the pace of the relationship

Nairy McMahon is CRR Global’s Director of Business Development, faculty member and Head of CRR UK. She is a CTI-trained coach and ORSC Certified practitioner with a corporate background, having worked in banking and property development. She has spent the past 10 years collaborating and running a private investment company in London. She also has acted as a business advisor to a number of start-ups. She has a strong interest in teams, especially culturally diverse teams. A psychologist by education, Nairy has worked and lived on four continents.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Frank Uit de Weerd, CRR Global faculty member and co-author of Systems Inspired Leadership, about the benefits of a systems inspired approach to organizational change. Across the conversation, they discuss:

The importance of preparing for the change
Ways of working more skilfully with emergent change
Edge crossing and helping organizations to look for minimal viable edges
The difference between change management and change leadership
The importance of slowing down

Frank Uit de Weerd is an organizational psychologist and executive/team/systems coach with extensive experience in leadership development, business innovation and cultural transformation. He builds on more than 25 years of international experience in Human Resources with Royal Dutch Shell, where he held assignments in Europe (Netherlands, Belgium, UK), Africa (Gabon) and Asia (Malaysia). He believes that it’s critical for organizations to create a work environment where people feel safe to bring their whole person and where they are supported and encouraged to step into their magnificence. These so-called human-centered organizations create superior results and are key for building a better, more conscious and sustainable world.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member Yuri Morikawa about toxic positivity. Across this conversation, they discuss:

Can too much positivity ever really be considered 'toxic'?
The difference between useful positivity and toxic positivity
What becomes marginalized when a system is overly biased towards positivity
Becoming aware of this pattern of behavior in ourselves and the systems that we work with

Yuri Morikawa has been an active player in the professional coaching field since 2004. She has trained and coached more than 1000 of leaders and coaches globally from various backgrounds, such as corporate executives, NGO leaders, business owners, independent professionals, and dream seekers of their own. Prior to her career in coaching, Yuri worked as a management consultant specializing in organizational and leadership development for 13 years. After being a trainer for Coaching Training Institute (CTI) for 8 years, she launched the Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) Program in Japan and founded CRR Japan in 2009. Currently, she is a global faculty member of CRR Global, developing professional organizational coaches around the world, such as in Japan, China, Singapore, South Africa, and Australia. She is passionate about bringing her professional experience to the bigger social context and works extensively with NGOs in Social Sectors such as the Kamonohashi Project supporting survivor leaders of human trafficking issues in India and Asia Rural Institute, educating organic farming, and developing servant leadership for rural leaders in Asia and Africa.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie welcomes back Sandra Cain, Director of Curriculum and senior Faculty at CRR Global, to talk about alignment. Across this conversation, they discuss:

Why alignment coaching is foundational to the ORSC approach
The challenges surrounding alignment coaching
The importance of bilateral ventilation
Shifting from positions to common interests
Humanizing the other person and seeing them as a person and not the problem

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs, and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with a variety of leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do, and how we live.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller about evolution through relationship, which is a major theme in your upcoming book Relationship Matters: A New Paradigm for an Evolutionary Leap in Relationships. Across the conversation, they discuss:

Why relationship is essential for human evolution
What gets in the way of relationship?
Slowing down to be present with the relationships in our lives
Our relationship with nature
Faith’s high dreams for relationship work

Faith Fuller is a co-founder of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 20 years of experience working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty members Judy Van Zon and Irith Koster about Emotional Intelligence or EQ and how it can help us take responsibility for our emotions. This conversation touches on a range of topics, including:

What is emotional intelligence and why is it so fundamental to the ORSC approach
What happens when our EQ is lacking? Or is not balanced with the other intelligences?
How to use emotional intelligence to take responsibility for our own emotions
The link between EQ and locus of control
The benefits of building emotional intelligence in coaching, leadership and life

Irith Koster trained as an organizational psychologist (MA) and specializes in coaching partnerships and teams, and individual leaders. By studying, working, and living in Amsterdam, Jerusalem and Los Angeles, Irith learned to look at situations from multiple perspectives, which added to her drive to help people do the same. Alongside being a Certified Organization and Relationship Systems Coach since 2013 and a front-of-the-room leader for CRR Global, she is an ICF-accredited Professional Certified Coach and a Certified Team Performance Coach by Team Coaching International. She is also a facilitator of the War to Peace Methodology, created by Halcyon Global, and a Co-active Coach and is a lifelong student of the Gremlin Taming Method by Rick Carson. Her secret mission is that the people she works with take these tools and insights home into their families. Irith is based in the Netherlands with her husband and three daughters. She loves to run in the forest of Amsterdam and to read everything she can about human beings and their relationships. She is fluent in Dutch, English and Hebrew.

Judy van Zon has lived and worked in several countries and speaks the language of people who are crossing a border, physically as well as emotionally. In short, she works with people who are going through personal or professional change. One of the things that sets her apart is her inclusion of spirituality to help her clients better connect to their own inner wisdom and power. In her team coaching, Judy believes that working with the ORSC model is a very powerful way to build bridges in relationships. It goes far beyond familiar skills like empathy and active listening. It offers a whole new way of looking at people and how we live and work together. Her focus is on working with corporate leaders and teams. Training others in this allows her to spread this energy throughout the world. For the last 25 years, she has lived and worked in six countries on three continents, the last 3.5 years in India and the region around. She is now back in the Netherlands and, as well as being a senior faculty member, was the former Director of Certification at CRR Global. Judy speaks Dutch, English, German, Spanish, and French.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member Sunčica Getter about ORSC and mindfulness. Across this conversation, they discuss:

What is mindfulness?
How can mindfulness help us to become better systems coaches?
How can the ORSC tools and skills help us to be more mindful?
The inner observer as an ally
The role of compassion
Some of the benefits of mindfulness- personally & professionally

Sunčica Getter is an MCC systemic coach, consultant, educator, and Director for Continuous Development at CRR Global. With over 20 years of experience, her focus is on transformational leadership development and systemic culture change. Her work in coaching education has seen her train, mentor and supervise coaches and design and deliver academic, public, and in-house coaching training and accreditation courses. Her experiences collaborating with world-class coaching institutions and diverse clients have made Sunčica a trusted systemic coaching consultant. She advises companies and institutions on the implementation of systemic coaching and systemic thinking for both organizational and community development. In addition, Sunčica is a qualified mindfulness teacher, having trained with Jack Kornfield and Tara Brach through the University of Berkeley’s Greater Good Science Centre.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Mike Holton, COO of CRR Global, about the importance of grief when dealing with a myth change. Across this conversation, they discuss:

The value of grieving an old myth before embracing a new myth
Some of the challenges that show up when we rush through the grief stage
How grief can be an ally for change
The importance of slowing down
And some ways we can learn to prioritize this important stage

Mike Holton has a lifelong passion for working with and developing leaders across the globe. Alongside his roles at CRR Global, Mike has spent a career working to develop organizational capabilities within the Global 2000. In the coaching field, he has worked as an agile, leadership, couples, team, and organizational coach. Over the last few years, he has transitioned his focus to working with clients in the space of trauma. The most important role Mike plays is being a husband and father to four amazing children. This role has shaped him and continues to develop him as a person today.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In part 3 of this 3-part special on boundaryless change, Katie talks with CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about some of the everyday applications of boundaryless change. This episode brings this mini-series back down to earth and looks at the importance of this concept in our everyday lives. Across this episode, they discuss:

How to explain this concept to a 6-year-old?
How might this concept be useful to a parent?
Some of the ways we need to embrace boundaryless change in our daily lives
The importance of embracing and working with the principle of emergence

If you haven’t listened to parts 1 and 2 already, we would highly recommend listening to Boundaryless Change Part 1: The Meta View and Boundaryless Change Part 2: The Coaching Evolution first.

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In part 2 of this 3-part mini-series on boundaryless change, Katie speaks with CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about how boundaryless change is impacting the coaching industry. Across this conversation, we discuss:

How can coaches respond to an increasing awareness of boundaryless change
Ways we can hold the complexity surrounding boundaryless change
Some of the impacts on the coaching industry at large
The most essential skills to help coaches and their clients work with boundaryless change

If you haven’t listened to it already, we would highly recommend listening to Boundaryless Change Part 1: The Meta View first.

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about boundaryless change. Across the conversation, they discuss:

The difference between complicated and complex systems
Our increasing awareness of boundaryless change
The challenges that arise when we try to remedy complex issues with simple solutions
The importance of boundaries and boundary-setting
How to hold the complexity of boundaryless change whilst also honoring our need for boundaries

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member Chris Howell about the improvisation in relationship. Across the conversation, they discuss:

The golden rule of Improvisation & how it applies to Relationships
How the ORSC tools or techniques do you believe help us to embrace an improviser mindset
The benefits of an improviser mindset when co-coaching or co-leading a course

Chris Howell is an experienced team and leadership coach known for his energetic presence, empathy and engaging style. His understanding of systems emerged through his experience in designing information technology and managing change in organizations. He always focused on the people and relationships in the system. His awareness of Psychology, NLP and Organisation Development helps him to make the connections between heart, mind and all levels of emotional intelligence within the human system. Chris now facilitates leadership development and accredited coach training as well as coaching executives and teams for international corporates. He has supported people and teams across a wide range of industries, including finance, manufacturing, technology, pharmaceutical, government, construction, and non-profit. He uses a wide range of well-recognized assessment tools that help people to see more deeply who they are in their relationships. He is passionate at supporting community and non-profit organizations. He founded a community organization in a deprived area of South-East London which continues to support members of the local community to express their voice. He has also supported leadership development for teenagers in the same community, helping them find purpose, confidence and who they are as leaders. Chris continues to enjoy learning about relationship based in Kent on the South coast of the UK.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks to CRR Global faculty member Kiki Kesseler about bringing Metaskills to life. Across this conversation, they discuss:

The concept of Metaskills and why they are useful for coaches
Embracing metaskills so they aren’t simply understood but embodied
The gap between intention and impact
The influence of Metaksills, professionally and personally
Ways we can practice being more conscious and intentional communication

Kiki Kessler is a CRR Global faculty member for both courses and the certification program. Kiki believes that the value of working with teams, individuals and relationships lies in the balance between revealing to the clients what is trying to happen and educating them on how to self-manage similar issues in the future for a more positive and productive relationship. Kiki focuses on people development and brings 20+ years of experience in cultural diversity, coaching, training, and team management across various industries, with corporate roles in Sales & Marketing, Business Development and Training. She specializes in team development, conflict resolution, leadership skills and systemic coaching. She is known to create a trusted atmosphere of positive energy that encourages the client to align, communicate, learn, and implement changed behavior. With clear education and the use of practical tools, Kiki inspires a can-do spirit among leaders. Her strength lies in combining coaching and training skills to enable growth. Originally from The Netherlands, she speaks Dutch, English, and German. Her cross-cultural experience was established through living in Austria, the United States, Germany and the UAE over the past 18 years, working within culturally diverse environments, organizations and teams. After a four-month adventurous drive from Dubai back to the Netherlands, Kiki and her family are now based close to Utrecht, The Netherlands.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this special episode of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie Churchman will be stepping into the role of guest alongside CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller, with the show guest-hosted by senior faculty member at CRR Global, Sandra Cain. Across the conversation, they discuss what they are learning about birth and death, which was inspired by their different life circumstances: at the time of recording, Katie was 24 weeks pregnant with twins, and Faith is navigating stage 4 Uterine cancer. This discussion covers a range of topics, including:

The similarities between birth and death
How birth and death can be a mirror for one another
Myth changes and secondary identities
Disappointed dreams, grief, and the limits of expectations
The importance of presence
The wisdom in uncertainty

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with a variety of leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do and how we live.

Faith Fuller is co-founder and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

Katie Churchman is the host of the Relationship Matters podcast and a Front of the Room faculty member at CRR Global. As an ICF Professional Certified Coach (PCC), certified in Organisational & Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSCC) & the ICF’s Advanced Certification in Team Coaching (ACTC), Katie helps leaders, teams & organisations find clarity & direction so that they can take ownership of goals and achieve results. Her coaching sessions are designed to deliver maximum impact and measurable growth specific to business objectives, professional aspirations & personal goals. Katie is passionate about bringing great communication skills & leadership development to organisations worldwide to build positive cultures & create tangible, sustainable change. Katie specialises in coaching individuals & teams across a wide range of areas, including Leadership Development, Change Mindset, Personal Impact, Presentation Skills, Effective Communication and Storytelling. She is goal-orientated, energetic & enjoys working with a fun, focused approach.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Yuri Morikawa, a CRR Global faculty member based in Japan and Rebecca Hou, a CRR Global faculty member based in China, about ORSC in Asian culture. For International Coaching Week, the duo offered an impactful virtual workshop on empowering deep democracy in organizations with Asian Culture which included both Chinese and Japanese Participants. This episode continues their exploration and looks at some of their practices and experiences from working in organizations with Asian culture. This conversation covers a range of topics, including:

The differences that show up when using ORSC in Asian organizations
Challenges around Deep Democracy in Asian culture
The impact of Deep Democracy in their personal systems
Systems Inspired Parenting
Ways to empower ORSC in Asian culture.

Yuri Morikawa has been an active player in the professional coaching field since 2004. She has trained and coached more than 1000 of leaders and coaches globally from various backgrounds, such as corporate executives, NGO leaders, business owners, independent professionals, and dream seekers of their own. Prior to her career in coaching, Yuri worked as a management consultant specializing in organizational and leadership development for 13 years. After being a trainer for Coaching Training Institute (CTI) for 8 years, she launched the Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) Program in Japan and founded CRR Japan in 2009. Currently, she is a global faculty member of CRR Global, developing professional organizational coaches around the world, such as in Japan, China, Singapore, South Africa, and Australia. She is passionate about bringing her professional experience to the bigger social context and works extensively with NGOs in Social Sectors such as the Kamonohashi Project supporting survivor leaders of human trafficking issues in India and Asia Rural Institute, educating organic farming, and developing servant leadership for rural leaders in Asia and Africa.

Rebecca Hou is an ICF Master Certified Coach, Executive/Leadership Coach and Training Consultant. She is also a faculty member and Front of the Room Leader at CTI and CRR Global. She leads professional coaching certification programs: including Co-Active Coaching, ORSC, Neuroscience Consciousness & Transformational Coaching. She is also a mentor coach, supervisor, and examiner for certification coach students. Her major focus areas are one-to-one leadership coaching, team coaching and the design and delivery of training workshops. Rebecca used to work for Siemens Management Institute for four years. During her service, she worked with internal clients of different business sectors from Industry, Energy, and Healthcare, as well as cross-business sectors. Prior to this, Rebecca worked for IWNC, a multi-national training company, for 11 years. During that period, she maintained contact with a portfolio of clients and worked with them on the design and delivery of programs.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Season 5 is here! Get excited about 20 news episodes where podcast host Katie Churchman engages in meaningful conversations with an amazing lineup of guests from our global community of systems thinkers.

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In this episode, Katie is talking with Bill Donaldson, Doris Saouma, and Michella Welstead about ORSC Coaching Circles, a community-led Worldwork initiative. ORSC Coaching Circles are 100% led and run by a community of change agents from around the world. They embrace the RSI Principles and welcome all ORSC practitioners to fill a role and ultimately evolve the larger world system we are part of. Throughout this conversation, they discuss:

The inspiration behind ORSC coaching circles
How they work
Their high dream for the initiative
The importance of Worldwork

Getting in touch: ORSC Coaching Circles are open to those who've completed training on ORSC tools and would like to come together with others to experience and practice the tools in a safe and supportive environment. To be added to the monthly announcements or find out more information, please click here or email orsc.coachingcircle@gmail.com.

Bill Donaldson is a husband to Amy, father to Katie and Greg, and grandfather to Nathaniel, living in Charleston, SC. Bill is passionate about making people’s lives better through his leadership in Business Transformation and Team Coaching. He is passionate about women's allyship with a goal to impact 100K women to retain or re-join the STEM workforce. Bill is an ICF ACC certified coach and a Gold Tier #IamRemarkable facilitator.

Doris Saouma supports leaders and organizations in defining and living their legacy while building better workplaces, cultures, and countries. She works with leaders globally in various sectors, including private banks, central banks, consulting firms, hedge funds, sovereign funds, private equities, trading agencies, pharma companies, insurance companies, as well as governmental and non-governmental organizations. Her work experience ranges from supporting individual leaders in developing their leadership skills and upgrading their careers to accompanying teams in collaborating for higher impact.

Michella Welstead grew up in Australia and now calls the Netherlands home. She comes from a background in data management and data-driven transformation. Along the way, she’s seen firsthand how critical team dynamics are to organizational success. She now incorporates ORSC coaching tools in her work in agile transformations to help individuals, teams, and organizations unleash their creativity, embrace collaboration, and transition towards improved performance.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Judy van Zon and Katherine Starks about the ORSC™ certification program. Judy is currently Director of Certification at CRR Global, and Kathie is a recent alumnus of the program. The ORSC Certification program is a unique and comprehensive eight-month program with extensive practice and online study designed to produce the best ORSC practitioners in the world! Throughout this conversation, we discuss what makes the program so unique, the intentions and outcomes of the course, edge crossing, the practicalities of the course, the impact of world work, and much more.

For more information on the ORSC Certification Program, please click here.

Judy van Zon helps her clients better connect to their own inner wisdom and power. In her team coaching, Judy believes that working with the ORSC model is a very powerful way to build bridges in relationships. It goes far beyond familiar skills like empathy and active listening. It offers a whole new way of looking at people and how we live and work together. Her focus is on working with corporate leaders and teams. Training others in this allows her to spread this energy throughout the world. She also applies her skills to roles like facilitating and mentoring. For the last 25 years, she has lived and worked in six countries on three continents, the last 3.5 years in India and the region around. She is now back in the Netherlands and is CRR Global's current Director of Certification. Judy speaks Dutch, English, German, Spanish, and French. With a master’s in business administration, her professional career started in the commercial operations of an international consumer goods company.

Katherine Starks has spent most of her career in financial services, the last 15 years in senior leadership positions. This experience laid the groundwork for a natural progression to the next stage: coaching and mentoring other professionals so that they too can find their path and passion in life. Kathie’s coaching journey began during her years in the corporate world, first becoming an ICF Certified Co-Active Coach and later embarking on her ORSC journey just as she pursued her final and most challenging role as CEO and Branch Manager of the Bank of New York Mellon in Frankfurt. At the beginning of 2022, Kathie left the corporate world so that she could dedicate all her time and energy into pursuing her dream of coaching successful teams and fulfilled leaders.
For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In the final episode of season 4, Katie talks with Kiki Kesseler about vulnerability in relationship. Across this conversation, we discuss:

How does vulnerability show up in relationship?
Patterns in relationship
Expressing what you need
Owning “I don’t know” as a pathway into vulnerability
Choosing to be vulnerable
The impact of control and the value of playfulness

Kiki Kessler is a CRR Global faculty member for both courses and the certification programme. Kiki believes that the value of working with teams, individuals, and relationships lies in the balance between revealing to the clients what is trying to happen and educating them on how to self-manage similar issues in the future for a more positive and productive relationship. Kiki focuses on people development and brings 20+ years of experience in cultural diversity, coaching, training, and team management across various industries, with corporate roles in Sales & Marketing, Business Development, and Training. She specializes in team development, conflict resolution, leadership skills, and systemic coaching. She is known to create a trusted atmosphere of positive energy that encourages the client to align, communicate, learn, and implement changed behavior. With clear education and the use of practical tools, Kiki inspires a can-do spirit among leaders. Her strength lies in combining coaching and training skills to enable growth. Originally from The Netherlands, she speaks Dutch, English, and German. Her cross-cultural experience was established through living in Austria, the United States, Germany and the UAE over the past 18 years, working within culturally diverse environments, organizations and teams. After a four-month adventurous drive from Dubai back to the Netherlands, Kiki and her family are now based close to Utrecht, The Netherlands.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across these 3 episodes, Katie talks with Michelle Davis, faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global, about supporting systemic equity. As humans, we have diversity – we think differently and hold different perspectives and ideas – that’s what makes us unique and different and should be celebrated. Once we start to create fear based on those differences - we begin to dehumanize groups of people and lock them out of opportunities. This 3-part series builds along the lines of the 3-levels of intelligence (Emotional Intelligence EQ, Social Intelligence SI and Relationship System Intelligence RSI). If you've not already listened to parts 1 and 2, we'd highly recommend listening to both of those episodes first. In part 3, Katie and Michelle look through the lens of Relationship System Intelligence. Topics include:

Looking through the lens of relationship
The importance of integrating systemic equity into the bones of an organization
The power of the coach approach
Socialised storytelling and choosing to create a different reality
Privilege and power structures

Michelle Davis is a faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global. Michelle’s professional journey has included a season of providing therapy, as a licensed professional counselor, to the most vulnerable among us; a season of developing and delivering experiential learning events that challenge and disrupt the status quo when the status quo no longer serves; and currently, a season providing leadership coaching as a certified organization and relationship systems coach and leading diversity, equity and inclusion efforts as a professor and director. In her work at the University of Colorado and previous experience working with systemic racism in other university systems, Michelle was the principal developer of a coaching program focused on Race Intelligence (RQ(™)). This program seeks to increase Race Intelligence by guiding others to increase their capacity to lean into discomfort with the intention of becoming aware of race and racism and its influence on oneself, others, and societal institutions; and use this increased intelligence or awareness consciously to dismantle intrapersonal mindsets, behaviors, and systemic representations of racism. Michelle earned her master’s degree in counselling at the University of Nebraska at Omaha and, as well as being an ORSC-certified coach, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, a trained Co-Active Coach, and a Certified Dare to Lead Facilitator.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across these 3 episodes, Katie talks with Michelle Davis, faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global, about supporting systemic equity. As humans, we have diversity – we think differently and hold different perspectives and ideas – that’s what makes us unique and different and should be celebrated. Once we start to create fear based on those differences - we begin to dehumanize groups of people and lock them out of opportunities. This 3-part series builds along the lines of the 3-levels of intelligence (Emotional Intelligence EQ, Social Intelligence SI and Relationship System Intelligence RSI). If you've not already listened to it already, do check-out part 1 first; what's mine to do? In part 2, Katie and Michelle look at social intelligence. Topics include:

Right Relationship and working for the power of me and you
The stories and beliefs that shape our reality
Breaking down divisions and doing the work together
What's mine to do and how can I actually do it?
Sharing opportunities

Michelle Davis is a faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global. Michelle’s professional journey has included a season of providing therapy, as a licensed professional counselor, to the most vulnerable among us; a season of developing and delivering experiential learning events that challenge and disrupt the status quo when the status quo no longer serves; and currently, a season providing leadership coaching as a certified organization and relationship systems coach and leading diversity, equity and inclusion efforts as a professor and director. In her work at the University of Colorado and previous experience working with systemic racism in other university systems, Michelle was the principal developer of a coaching program focused on Race Intelligence (RQ(™)). This program seeks to increase Race Intelligence by guiding others to increase their capacity to lean into discomfort with the intention of becoming aware of race and racism and its influence on oneself, others, and societal institutions; and use this increased intelligence or awareness consciously to dismantle intrapersonal mindsets, behaviors, and systemic representations of racism. Michelle earned her master’s degree in counselling at the University of Nebraska at Omaha and, as well as being an ORSC-certified coach, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, a trained Co-Active Coach, and a Certified Dare to Lead Facilitator.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across these 3 episodes, Katie talks with Michelle Davis, faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global, about supporting systemic equity. As humans, we have diversity – we think differently, hold different perspectives and ideas – that’s what makes us unique and different and should be celebrated. Once we start to create fear based upon those differences - we begin to dehumanize groups of people and lock them out of opportunities. This 3-part series builds along the lines of the 3-levels of intelligence (Emotional Intelligence EQ, Social Intelligence SI and Relationship System Intelligence RSI). In part 1, Katie and Michelle look at system 1, the me system and what's mine to do in relation to supporting systemic equity. Topics include:

Why supporting systemic equity starts with the self: how can we see where we are blind?
Slowing down and getting curious about our unconscious drivers
The impact of fear
Getting to know the true nature of who we are.
Making the unconscious conscious so that we can be more at choice around our reactions

Michelle Davis is a faculty member and Director of Systemic Equity Initiatives at CRR Global. Michelle’s professional journey has included a season of providing therapy, as a licensed professional counselor, to the most vulnerable among us; a season of developing and delivering experiential learning events that challenge and disrupt the status quo when the status quo no longer serves; and currently, a season providing leadership coaching as a certified organization and relationship systems coach and leading diversity, equity and inclusion efforts as a professor and director. In her work at the University of Colorado and previous experience working with systemic racism in other university systems, Michelle was the principal developer of a coaching program focused on Race Intelligence (RQ(™)). This program seeks to increase Race Intelligence by guiding others to increase their capacity to lean into discomfort with the intention of becoming aware of race and racism and its influence on oneself, others, and societal institutions; and use this increased intelligence or awareness consciously to dismantle intrapersonal mindsets, behaviors, and systemic representations of racism. Michelle earned her master’s degree in counselling at the University of Nebraska at Omaha and, as well as being an ORSC-certified coach, is a Licensed Professional Counselor, a trained Co-Active Coach, and a Certified Dare to Lead Facilitator.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Mike Holton, COO and faculty member at CRR Global, about the importance of building belonging in our relationships. Across this conversation they discuss:

Belonging as a form of acceptance
The individual work that we can only do together
Making the unconscious conscious
Learning how to bring more belonging to our relationship with ourselves

Mike Holton has a lifelong passion for working with and developing leaders across the globe. Alongside his roles at CRR Global, Mike has spent a career working to develop organizational capabilities within the Global 2000. In the coaching field, he has worked as an agile, leadership, couples, team, and organizational coach. Over the last few years, he has transitioned his focus to working with clients in the space of Trauma. The most important role Mike plays is being a husband and a father of four amazing children. This role has shaped him and continues to develop him as a person today.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

This is episode 3 in a 3-part series on team coaching with team coach and CRR Global faculty member Martin Klaver. In episode 3, Katie and Martin discuss how to support clients in integrating the learnings. Across the conversation, they discuss:

How to weave integration throughout a team coaching engagement
Trusting and harnessing the wisdom of the team
Understanding that integration is the team’s responsibility
Celebrating small wins
Focusing on results as opposed to the process.

Martin Klaver is an experienced team coach and faculty member at CRR Global. He is enthusiastic about group dynamics and believes guiding systems in these dynamics and making patterns and potential aware is beautiful and rewarding work. Martin designs and supervises many Management Development processes where personal development (IQ and EQ), relationships with others (SQ) and relationships with systems (RSI) are fundamental. Fun, experimental and essence are themes that you can recognize in his methods.

Martin has a master’s degree in Business Administration and extensive work experience in HR and organizational development at various organizations. Based in the Netherlands, Martin facilitates with his team a diversity of organizations and leaders in their development. The purpose of his company is to bring more balance in the world. They focus to create an atmosphere of possibility in which the system can evolve into what is needed.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

This is episode 2 in a 3-part series on team coaching with team coach and CRR Global faculty member Martin Klaver. To listen to part 1, click here. In episode 2, Katie and Martin discuss how to develop conscious and intentional relationships with clients. Across the conversation, they discuss:

Sharing team coaching, not as a product but as a process
Meeting clients where they are, with their language.
Understanding that as a team coach, you are a part of the process.
Co-coaching as an opportunity for modelling teamwork.

Martin Klaver is an experienced team coach and faculty member at CRR Global. He is enthusiastic about group dynamics and believes guiding systems in these dynamics and making patterns and potential aware is beautiful and rewarding work. Martin designs and supervises many Management Development processes where personal development (IQ and EQ), relationships with others (SQ) and relationships with systems (RSI) are fundamental. Fun, experimental and essence are themes that you can recognize in his methods.

Martin has a master’s degree in Business Administration and extensive work experience in HR and organizational development at various organizations. Based in the Netherlands, Martin facilitates with his team a diversity of organizations and leaders in their development. The purpose of his company is to bring more balance in the world. They focus to create an atmosphere of possibility in which the system can evolve into what is needed.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across the next three episodes, Katie talks with team coach and CRR faculty member Martin Klaver about the team coach approach. In episode 1, Katie and Martin discuss what it means to build a successful team coaching business. Across the conversation they discuss:

Defining what success might look like for your business and aligning your energy around those goals
Acting with integrity and being at choice
Reframing team coaching as a process, not a product: it’s not something you sell; it’s a relationship you build
The importance of continually applying the team coach approach to your own business

Martin Klaver is an experienced team coach and faculty member at CRR Global. He is enthusiastic about group dynamics and believes guiding systems in these dynamics and making patterns and potential aware is beautiful and rewarding work. Martin designs and supervises many Management Development processes where personal development (IQ and EQ), relationships with others (SQ) and relationships with systems (RSI) are fundamental. Fun, experimental and essence are themes that you can recognize in his methods.

Martin has a master’s degree in Business Administration and extensive work experience in HR and organizational development at various organizations. Based in the Netherlands, Martin facilitates with his team a diversity of organizations and leaders in their development. The purpose of his company is to bring more balance in the world. They focus to create an atmosphere of possibility in which the system can evolve into what is needed.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Floyd Carlson about bringing a Both/And mindset to our relationships. Across the conversation, they discuss:

How can we help the systems navigate polarities when they show up
Shifting from either/or thinking to a Both/And approach.
The link between polarities and perpetual issues.
And how a Both/And mindset can help to create alignment.

Floyd Carlson is a Front of the Room Leader for CRR Global who focuses on leaders and teams and bringing the best out of individuals based on company and individual objectives. Floyd has more than 30 years of business and military experience which he combines with his coaching, training, and organizational development to help leaders achieve professional and personal goals in alignment with company needs.

Resources:

Navigating Polarities: Using Both/And Thinking to Lead Transformation, by Brian Emerson & Kelly Lewis
Andiron- Key Polarities Indicator
Esther Perel Podcasts- Where should we begin? & How’s work?
Tiny Habits, by BJ Fogg
The Love Prescription, by John and Julie Gottman
The Big Leap: Conquer Your Hidden Fear and Take Life to the Next Level Paperback, by Gay Hendricks

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

The Big Leap: Conquer Your Hidden Fear and Take Life to the Next Level

Across the next two episodes, Katie talks with ORSC coach and legally trained consultant Jennifer Pernfuss and CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about conflict. Conflict is a signal that something is trying to happen and when the signal of conflict isn't addressed, matters can escalate to other, and often more destructive forms of conflict. Conflict falls on a spectrum, and if we can become aware of the early warning signals we can produce better, more well-considered, outcomes. However, if conflict takes root and is left unaddressed it can escalate and, in more serious cases, become harassment or bullying, or at least be experienced that way, which causes all kinds of damage. This damage can rise to the level of a crisis within the team or organization. If, you haven't listened to it already we would highly recommending listening to part 1 first. In part 2 they discuss:

The spectrum of conflict
The early warning signs
The complexities of escalated conflict
Recognising the law as a voice of the system
Organizational crisis

Jennifer Pernfuss is an ORSC coach and legally trained consultant, helping organizations effectively address and resolve workplace harassment complaints and transform conflict. She was one of the first legally trained consultants to conduct external investigations in Ontario. She left that work to study different ways of resolving employee complaints that encourage low-level resolution and regard for all the stakeholders in a dispute. In addition to a law degree, she has a degree in Psychology and is a trained mediator. As well as being a certified Organization and Relationship Systems Coach she is also a Trauma Informed Professional Coach. In addition, she has also had the pleasure of being trained by Brene Brown in the area of shame. All her education, training, personal and field experience has culminated in a unique and highly effective approach to addressing and resolving harassment and other forms of conflict in the workplace.

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across the next two episodes, Katie talks with ORSC coach and legally trained consultant Jennifer Pernfuss and CRR Global co-founder Marita Fridjhon about conflict. Conflict is a signal that something is trying to happen and when the signal of conflict isn't addressed, matters can escalate to other, and often more destructive forms of conflict. Conflict falls on a spectrum, and if we can become aware of the early warning signals we can produce better, more well-considered, outcomes. However, if conflict takes root and is left unaddressed it can escalate and, in more serious cases, become harassment or bullying, or at least be experienced that way, which causes all kinds of damage. This damage can rise to the level of a crisis within the team or organization. In part 1 they discuss:

The meaning of conflict as a signal that something is trying to happen
Becoming more attuned to conflict signals
Understanding that conflict is a normal and inevitable part of life
Leaning into conflict and learning how to navigate it more skillfully

Jennifer Pernfuss is an ORSC coach and legally trained consultant, helping organizations effectively address and resolve workplace harassment complaints and transform conflict. She was one of the first legally trained consultants to conduct external investigations in Ontario. She left that work to study different ways of resolving employee complaints that encourage low-level resolution and regard for all the stakeholders in a dispute. In addition to a law degree, she has a degree in Psychology and is a trained mediator. As well as being a certified Organization and Relationship Systems Coach she is also a Trauma Informed Professional Coach. In addition, she has also had the pleasure of being trained by Brene Brown in the area of shame. All her education, training, personal and field experience has culminated in a unique and highly effective approach to addressing and resolving harassment and other forms of conflict in the workplace.

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) and Maddie Weinreich (Master coach and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) about the different roles that exist within relationships

The conversation covers a range of topics including:

The geographic strata of relationships and how it can help us to work with the dynamics of relationships that are happening at different levels
The value in identifying and naming roles for a relationship system
The difference between outer and inner roles and how to work with the challenges that can show up at these different levels
The power of putting the role out in front and embracing the RSI principle that holds that roles belong to the system, not to the individuals that inhabit those roles.

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with a variety of leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do and how we live.

Maddie Weinreich is a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification. Maddie holds the Master Certified Coach (MCC) credential with the International Coaches Federation (ICF) and specializes in strengthening the interpersonal relationships that exist within business environments for the purpose of enhancing team performance and productivity. She coaches leadership teams around the globe to navigate change and to effectively improve organizational cultures within large and small businesses. In addition to coaching and training business teams, Maddie also works with dynamic couples who choose to be the architects of their relationship.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Sunčica Getter and Marita Fridjhon about the power of reflective practice as a dynamic professional and personal growth resource. Across this conversation they discuss:

How reflective practice can help us to discover and deepen our strengths, cross edges, see beyond blind spots, and find wisdom in the challenges we face
The importance of resourcing ourselves and caring for our own well-being as coaches
Using the five principles of Relationship Systems Intelligence as a lens for reflecting on our coaching practice and impact as a coach

This conversation builds on a previous episode, so if you haven’t listened to it already we’d highly recommend checking out Systemic Supervision from season 3.

Sunčica Getter, is a systemic coach, consultant, educator and head of continuous development at CRR Global. With over 20 years of experience, her focus is on transformational leadership development and systemic culture change. Her work in coaching education has seen her train, mentor and supervise coaches and design and deliver academic, public, and in-house coaching training and accreditation courses. Her experiences collaborating with world-class coaching institutions and diverse clients have made Sunčica a trusted systemic coaching consultant. She advises companies and institutions on the implementation of systemic coaching and systemic thinking for both organisational and community development.

Marita Fridjhon is co-founder of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this podcast, Katie talks with CRR faculty member Mish Middelmann about the Relationship Sytems Intelligence at Work Program (RSI@Work). At the centre of the RSI@work program is Building Relationship Systems Intelligence in teams and organisations. Across this conversation, Mish and Katie cover a range of topics including:

Who the RSI@Work program is for, its impact and the power of integrating the ORSC language within organizations
The how and why of leading from the “we” for the good of the whole system
What it really takes to get team and employee engagement – collaboration and co-responsibility from the get-go
Addressing conflict skilfully and constructively as a source of innovation and growth
What it takes for all members to really express themselves and really be heard

If you feel the RSI@Work might benefit your coaching practice and the organisations you work with- then do check out www.crrglobal.com/about/rsiwork to find out how you can become an RSI Licensed Facilitator, or how you can bring an RSI licensee to your workplace.

Mish Middelmann is a serial social entrepreneur and transformational systems coach who holds the worldwide RSI@Work program on behalf of CRR Global. He has been a member of the CRR Global faculty since 2015, leading the full range of ORSC courses worldwide as well as supervising on the ORSC Certification program. He was the southern Africa partner for CRR Global from 2012 to 2020. Prior to that, he was the co-founder and first CEO of a hi-tech start-up serving the social development sector in the early 1990s in Johannesburg, South Africa – a business which still thrives independent of Mish. He sees the extraordinarily diverse, purpose-driven company he helped to found almost like a third child, along with his two flesh-and-blood sons.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with senior faculty member Maddie Weinreich about how we can bring more 'aliveness' to our most intimate relationships. This conversation introduces proven relationship skills and invites us to take a bird's-eye view of our partnerships. Themes across the episode include:

How we can take a more conscious approach to how our partnerships evolve
Learning how to address common pitfalls which inhibit trust and intimacy
The five elements necessary for a thriving, intimate relationship

For more information about the Alive in Love program please visit: www.crrglobalusa.com/couples-workshop

Maddie Weinreich is one of CRR Global's most experienced coaches. While Maddie excels at coaching and training business teams, her passion lies in supporting couples to become the dynamic architects of their own relationship. She custom-designs coaching programs for couples to achieve the vision they have for their personal and professional lives together.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller and faculty member Janet Frood are back on the show talking about nature. Building on the idea of nature as an ally which was introduced in season 3, Janet and Faith explore nature flirts as a guru principle. Across the conversation they discuss:

The notion of a guru principle and how it can reveal your mind to you
Quantum flirts and how they can help us to be more aware and awake to things
How nature flirts can open up portals for inquiry through sensory awareness
What we can learn by embracing the full range of our experience with nature
How can we create more space for the signals that nature is sending us?

Faith Fuller is a co-founder of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

Janet Frood is a faculty member at CRR Global and an internationally certified coach specializing in executive, leadership and team development. After 20 years of what Janet calls her “accidental” career, she made a big leap and completely changed my own career path. In 2005, she founded Horizon Leadership and dedicated her work to supporting leaders and teams on their journey. Janet’s inspirational work focuses on the human and relational dimensions of organizational life – cultivating the talent and resourcefulness of individuals and teams so they move towards their goals together.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie Churchman is in conversation with Faith, co-founder of CRR Global, about some of the systems that have inspired the work that she does, with CRR Global and beyond. The conversation covers:

The meaning of influence
The impact of her childhood
Working as a psychologist
The impact of a brain injury
Buddhism, meditation and her spiritual background
Being diagnosed with cancer

Faith Fuller is co-founder and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 20 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams . She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with co-founder of CRR Global, Martia Fridjhon, about systems inspired coaching. Across this episode we explore:

The value of bringing a systems inspired approach to coaching
How to step in with a systems inspired coaching approach when working with individuals
Using yourself- and your own system within- as a resource for coaching
Meeting the client where they are at

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across 3 episodes in season 4, Katie talks with master coach Cynthia Loy Darst about the Inside Team: How To Turn Internal Conflict Into Clarity and Move Forward With Your Life. Based on ORSC concepts the Inside Team approach explores the collection of internal voices, parts, and beliefs that exist within us all and offers a framework for exploring these different parts of self so that we can explore our thought processes and better understand what these parts of self really want. By doing so your creativity and resourcefulness will have room to grow, turning internal conflict into clarity, negative thoughts into positive ones, and moving forward with more ease and fun in your life. In part 3, Cynthia and Katie look at how your inside team can help you to expand your range as a coach. Topics include:

The value of expanding our range- for ourselves and our clients.
Ways in which we can cross edges to explore secondary identities or parts of self that don’t feel so familiar.
The importance of Edutainment- education and entertainment in coaching.
How expanding our range and embracing more of who we are can help us to more we hold more of the range that shows up in the clients we work with

Cynthia Loy Darst is known as a passionate pioneer in the world of Coaching and has a reputation for being both playful and inspiring. She works with all kinds of people to move them past their limitations and into more effective action. As well as being a senior course leader at CRR Global and CTI, Cynthia was one of the first eight to receive the designation of Master Certified Coach (MCC) from the International Coach Federation in 1998. Passionate about quality and excellence in the world of coaching, Cynthia was a founding member of the International Coach Federation and has served as President of ACTO (The Assoc. of Coach Training Organizations). Cynthia is also the Author of 'Meet Your Inside Team – How To Turn Internal Conflict Into Clarity and Move Forward With Your Life.' Her book is required reading for the EMBA program at Loyola Marymount University where she is a frequent guest speaker.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across 3 episodes in season 4, Katie talks with master coach Cynthia Loy Darst about the Inside Team: How To Turn Internal Conflict Into Clarity and Move Forward With Your Life. Based on ORSC concepts the Inside Team approach explores the collection of internal voices, parts, and beliefs that exist within us all and offers a framework for exploring these different parts of self so that we can explore our thought processes and better understand what these parts of self really want. By doing so your creativity and resourcefulness will have room to grow, turning internal conflict into clarity, negative thoughts into positive ones, and moving forward with more ease and fun in your life. In part 2, we explore how to find alignment with triggered selves. Topics include:

What to do when your inside team isn’t getting along
How to build a relationship with a triggered self
Creating alignment between primary and secondary identities.

Cynthia Loy Darst is known as a passionate pioneer in the world of Coaching and has a reputation for being both playful and inspiring. She works with all kinds of people to move them past their limitations and into more effective action. As well as being a senior course leader at CRR Global and CTI, Cynthia was one of the first eight to receive the designation of Master Certified Coach (MCC) from the International Coach Federation in 1998. Passionate about quality and excellence in the world of coaching, Cynthia was a founding member of the International Coach Federation and has served as President of ACTO (The Assoc. of Coach Training Organizations). Cynthia is also the Author of 'Meet Your Inside Team – How To Turn Internal Conflict Into Clarity and Move Forward With Your Life.' Her book is required reading for the EMBA program at Loyola Marymount University where she is a frequent guest speaker.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across 3 episodes in season 4, Katie talks with master coach Cynthia Loy Darst about the Inside Team: How To Turn Internal Conflict Into Clarity and Move Forward With Your Life. Based on ORSC concepts the Inside Team approach explores the collection of internal voices, parts, and beliefs that exist within us all and offers a framework for exploring these different parts of self so that we can explore our thought processes and better understand what these parts of self really want. By doing so your creativity and resourcefulness will have room to grow, turning internal conflict into clarity, negative thoughts into positive ones, and moving forward with more ease and fun in your life. In part 1, topics include:

Creating the concept of the inside team
The value in getting to know our inside team, or system one, the system of ‘me’
Techniques that can help us to become better acquainted with our internal system
Understanding that every player has a wisdom aspect

Cynthia Loy Darst is known as a passionate pioneer in the world of Coaching and has a reputation for being both playful and inspiring. She works with all kinds of people to move them past their limitations and into more effective action. As well as being a senior course leader at CRR Global and CTI, Cynthia was one of the first eight to receive the designation of Master Certified Coach (MCC) from the International Coach Federation in 1998. Passionate about quality and excellence in the world of coaching, Cynthia was a founding member of the International Coach Federation and has served as President of ACTO (The Assoc. of Coach Training Organizations). Cynthia is also the Author of 'Meet Your Inside Team – How To Turn Internal Conflict Into Clarity and Move Forward With Your Life.' Her book is required reading for the EMBA program at Loyola Marymount University where she is a frequent guest speaker.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CEO of CRR Global, Marita Fridjhon, about how we can use the ORSC principles with our families and also about some of the challenges this can inevitably bring up for even the most seasoned practitioner- hence the title: family is the final exam!

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with co-coaches Kerry Woodcock and Sherry Matheson about their experiences and learnings after over 13 years of co-coaching together. Across the episode we explore:

The value of co-coaching, what isn’t co-coaching
How to shift your attention from yourself as an individual to the power of your relationship
Finding alignment with a new co-coach
Developing psychological safety and trust when leading with someone new
Learning to trust the third entity so that you can respond to what’s needed in the moment

Kerry Woodcock is a faculty member at CRR Global, principal of CRR Global Canada and alongside being a PCC coach, certified in CTI and ORSC, holds a doctorate in Geography and Environmental Management. Kerry leads change for a world of change — challenging the status quo of those who challenge the status quo! She thrives on working with leaders and organizations that believe that if the world is their work, they had better start at home. They are the innovators, disturbers, challengers, provocateurs, and brink leaders of our world, who believe that it is powerful relationship that creates meaningful change and are willing to do the courageously authentic work it takes to amplify the power of relationship.

Sherry Matheson is a faculty member at CRR Global and a PCC coach who believes the key is focusing on relationships. She develops leaders & teams who create organizational cultures that innovate, driving new ideas, new ventures & creative impactful collaborations. Sherry brings 26 years of experience working in and with executives, directors, managers & teams in various settings – corporate, legal, government, oil & gas, not-for-profit, engineering, health & wellness & collaborative team leadership development to her coaching, facilitating & consulting services.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CEO of CRR Global, Marita Fridjhon, about how to take the ORSC tools and skills outside of coaching sessions and into our everyday interactions. Across the conversation we discuss:

How to make a difference in the places where we don’t coach
Bringing a different form of collective change through these small yet significant interactions
Small acts of kindness
The power of positivity
Bringing a coaching mindset to our wider community systems

Marita Fridjhon is a co-founder and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with one of the co-founders of CRR global, Faith Fuller, about Idiot Compassion. Idiot compassion is helping in unhelpful ways. Helping someone perpetuate their neurosis or unskillfulness at the expense of others. Or at the expense of a client's well-being. This conversation covers:

The different situations that can bring out idiot compassion
Using Meet, Reveal Align and Act as a way of sharing a truth in a much more skilful way
The coach as a mirror: a client cannot change unless we reveal the truth to them

Faith Fuller is one of the co-founders and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 15 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams. She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across 3 episodes in season 4, Katie talks with master coach Lori Shook about Alchemy: The Art and Science of co-facilitation. Based on ORSC concepts the alchemy approach was designed to help pairs create magical co-deliveries, whether they be co-coaching, co-facilitating, or co-parenting! Magical co-facilitation, inspired participants, deep learning – these things don’t just happen. However, you can learn the tools and techniques that can help you and your partner to consistently and intentionally create successful, transformative, high-impact learning experiences together. In the final instalment of this 3-part series on alchemy, we explore the power of being conscious and intentional about our impact. Across this conversation we discuss:

Why the energy of the facilitators' matters
Creating conscious and intentional emotional fields
The magic of Metaskills when co-leading

Lori Shook is a pioneer in the coaching world: she jumped into the budding field of coaching in the mid-1990s, earned the designation of Master Certified Coach by 2001 and has been training coaches for over 20 years. Lori has coached small business owners, managers, and executives around the world. She has worked with leaders in a variety of organisations including large multinationals and small to mid-sized businesses. As a pioneer in the coaching world, she was a driving force for the global expansion of coaching as she helped spread CoActive coaching across North America and helped introduce coaching to many countries throughout EMEA.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across 3 episodes in season 4, Katie talks with master coach Lori Shook about Alchemy: The Art and Science of co-facilitation. Based on ORSC concepts the alchemy approach was designed to help pairs create magical co-deliveries, whether they be co-coaching, co-facilitating, or co-parenting! Magical co-facilitation, inspired participants, deep learning – these things don’t just happen. However, you can learn the tools and techniques that can help you and your partner to consistently and intentionally create successful, transformative, high-impact learning experiences together. In part 2 we explore the experiential learning approach. Across this conversation we discuss:

How people learn
Setting the context and getting by in
The importance of debriefing and finding applications
The power of properly on-ramping and off-ramping people in and out of exercises

Lori Shook is a pioneer in the coaching world: she jumped into the budding field of coaching in the mid-1990s, earned the designation of Master Certified Coach by 2001 and has been training coaches for over 20 years. Lori has coached small business owners, managers, and executives around the world. She has worked with leaders in a variety of organisations including large multinationals and small to mid-sized businesses. As a pioneer in the coaching world, she was a driving force for the global expansion of coaching as she helped spread CoActive coaching across North America and helped introduce coaching to many countries throughout EMEA.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across 3 episodes in season 4, Katie talks with master coach Lori Shook about Alchemy: The Art and Science of co-facilitation. Based on ORSC concepts the alchemy approach was designed to help pairs create magical co-deliveries, whether they be co-coaching, co-facilitating, or co-parenting! Magical co-facilitation, inspired participants, deep learning – these things don’t just happen. However, you can learn the tools and techniques that can help you and your partner to consistently and intentionally create successful, transformative, high-impact learning experiences together. In part 1 we discuss alchemy and coaching outcomes. Across this conversation we discuss:

Why partners need to get aligned on outcomes
What happens when we’re not aligned
Designing our sessions so that everything is in service of the outcomes.

Lori Shook is a pioneer in the coaching world: she jumped into the budding field of coaching in the mid-1990s, earned the designation of Master Certified Coach by 2001 and has been training coaches for over 20 years. Lori has coached small business owners, managers, and executives around the world. She has worked with leaders in a variety of organisations including large multinationals and small to mid-sized businesses. As a pioneer in the coaching world, she was a driving force for the global expansion of coaching as she helped spread CoActive coaching across North America and helped introduce coaching to many countries throughout EMEA.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie Churchman is in conversation with Marita Fridjhon, co-owner and CEO of CRR Global, about some of the systems that have inspired the work that she does, with CRR Global and beyond. The conversation covers:

Growing up in South Africa during the Apartheid era
Working as a clinical social worker at the University of Cape Town
Her time in the Amazon during a cross-cultural research project investigating the impact of death and dying in families and communities
Discovering coaching and the work of Arnie and Amy Mindell
The power of looking back in order to step forward into Right Relationship with the many systems within which we all exist.

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

To kick-start a brand-new season of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie Churchman talks with Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) about some updates to the Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) curriculum. We’re living our own work and as a consequence, our materials, tools and understanding of systems keeps emerging. This conversation covers a range of updates to the ORSC curriculum that have emerged over the last few years including:

The addition of the 5 principles of RSI to the ORSC curriculum
Updates to paper constellations set-up and the scenarios used across the modules
Structural changes to the deep democracy tool from the intelligence module that aim to make it a more accessible and user-friendly tool.
Integrating Meet Reveal Align and Act into the systems integration model as a way to create a coaching plan and act as a map for where you are in the coaching process.

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with a variety of leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do and how we live.

For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 5 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.In this podcast, Katie talks with Yan Zhang about her Worldwork project: Teach for China and Team Cohesion. Teach for China is a non-profit organisation that recruits outstanding Chinese and American college graduates and trains them to serve as full-time teachers in under-resourced Chinese schools. Across the episode, Yan talks about her learnings and insights after working with the operations team at Teach for China, who were looking to build more connection, role clarity and team cohesion.

Yan Zhang is a leadership coach and team coach with over 15 years of experience as a senior executive at Fortune 500 and startup companies in China, across financial services, data & information, education, media, e-commerce, and investment banking. Her coaching philosophy is to inspire and empower people and organization with love, she leverages the professional skills of executive coaching, and team coaching to support company executives and entrepreneurs to unleash the power of leadership, and ignite teams to build greater trust, manifest collaborative power, and evoke transformation.

The Worldwork Project is a key element in the ORSC certification journey. It allows students to apply the ORSC™ materials in the real world and develop themselves as change agents. At CRR Global we hold all our students as change agents and train them to be conscious of what impact they want to make in their world. We believe that everybody’s impact –whether conscious or unconscious— sends ripples out into the world. It’s up to all of us, as world workers, to keep our communities safe and healthy. For more information about World Work and the ORSC Certification programme click here.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 5 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.In this podcast, Katie talks to Brandon Raines about his Worldwork Project: assisting Girl Scouts to continue their journey to become future leaders. Brandon's coaching plan focused on providing the girls with tools and competencies geared towards finding alignment. Throughout the discussion, Brandon discusses his key learnings, including overcoming his fear to allow the system to be creative, intelligent and resilient and trusting the system.

Brandon Raines is an Organization Design and Enterprise Coach who has worked with public and private entities, both large and small. He has helped organizations and individuals emerge from near failure to thriving models of success. Brandon is a noted author, speaker and presenter on topics of leadership, organization design and teamwork. Brandon is a Certified Enterprise Coach with the Scrum Alliance. He is also trained and certified in Organization Relationship Systems Coaching and certified by the Disney Institute in Customer Relationships. Brandon has a deep background in Information Technology organizations as a Software Developer. Brandon has also served as Chief Operating Officer for a mid-size company where he instituted many organizational and leadership practices.

The Worldwork Project is a key element in the ORSC certification journey. It allows students to apply the ORSC™ materials in the real world and develop themselves as change agents. At CRR Global we hold all our students as change agents and train them to be conscious of what impact they want to make in their world. We believe that everybody’s impact –whether conscious or unconscious— sends ripples out into the world. It’s up to all of us, as world workers, to keep our communities safe and healthy. For more information about World Work and the ORSC Certification programme click here.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 5 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.In this episode, Katie talks with Stephen Light and Jeffrey Wotherspoon about their Worldwork project: why inclusion is key to leveraging and honouring diversity. Across the conversation, Stephen and Jeffrey use their own relationship as a model for exploring what inclusion really means and how diversity is wasted when inclusion is not present. The intention of their work is to help people in organisations feel safe to speak up and shift outdated limiting ways of working that prevent the organisational culture from truly thriving. Ultimately, they want to ensure that everyone who is at the party is invited to dance…

Stephen Light is a Master Coach and certified ORSC coach with over 21 years of experience. Stephen works in major corporates at all levels, from CEOs and their Boards through to new leadership. He facilitates leadership programmes growing leadership capability to drive a high-performance culture. Stephen is highly skilled in creating engagement and facilitating learning in person and in the virtual space. Stephen coaches executives and teams, moving them to being more effective at creating engagement and achieving results. His driving philosophy is, “If you want something you have never had, you need look in places that you never look in and you have to do something you have never done.

Jeffrey Wotherspoon is an Executive and Leadership Coach accredited with both the Internal Coaching Federation at Professional Certified Coach (PPC) level and with the Association for Coaching at a Professional Executive Coach level. He is also an International Trainer/ facilitator and Conflict Resolution Specialist with a Psychology BSc (Hons). Jeffrey works with a full range of professional roles from C-Suite executives to those early on in their careers and across the private, public and voluntary sectors. In addition, Jeffrey also coaches those who would not ordinarily have access to coaching, including young men in prison and underrepresented young women. He is active in a range of pro bono roles, sitting on the Advisory Board for ‘Culture at Work’- a leading global Coaching company that offers Coach Training to Senior Executives worldwide; and as a Trustee for two charities Peer Power’ and Jubilee ‘Primary School’.

The Worldwork Project is a key element in the ORSC certification journey. It allows students to apply the ORSC™ materials in the real world and develop themselves as change agents. At CRR Global we hold all our students as change agents and train them to be conscious of what impact they want to make in their world. We believe that everybody’s impact –whether conscious or unconscious— sends ripples out into the world. It’s up to all of us, as world workers, to keep our communities safe and healthy. For more information about World Work and the ORSC Certification programme click here.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 5 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.

In this episode, Katie talks with Jie Zhou about her Worldwork project: championing emotions in Chinese corporations. Jie’s project was inspired by her experiences living and working in China. From a young age, Jie was encouraged to keep positive AND negative emotions to herself, especially in the workplace. Her world work project aimed at encouraging her, her colleagues and her clients to speak out more about various emotions and expectations in order to create deeper mutual understanding and better relationships.

Jie Zhou is a leadership trainer and team coach and CRR Global faculty. After working for 20+ years in government, start-up and multinational corporations, she realized the value of unleashing individual and team leadership potential. Encouraged by her hands-on coaching and training experiences for her team, she made career change from Strategy, Market & Technology Head to a freelance coach and trainer. She has a bachelor degree of finance from Fudan University and an MBA from Darden Business School at University of Virginia, USA.

The Worldwork Project is a key element in the ORSC certification journey. It allows students to apply the ORSC™ materials in the real world and develop themselves as change agents. At CRR Global we hold all our students as change agents and train them to be conscious of what impact they want to make in their world. We believe that everybody’s impact –whether conscious or unconscious— sends ripples out into the world. It’s up to all of us, as world workers, to keep our communities safe and healthy. For more information about World Work and the ORSC Certification programme click here.

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 5 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.

In this episode, Katie talks with Mélanie Rouppe van der Voort about her Worldwork project: improving the social and economic Position of Immigrant Women in the Netherlands. As both the ORSC Certification Program and the Covid-19 pandemic coincided for Melanie, she had to be creative in finding clients and doing her WWP. Due to the huge societal impact of the pandemic, she felt drawn to the work of a Dutch foundation, whose name when translated literally means Women’s Power. Melanie has huge respect for the work that the women do at the foundation because they give their community members – predominantly immigrant women with non-western backgrounds – a voice and a platform to build a life in the Netherlands. The founders and most important change agents have shown that they are able to turn hopelessness, fear and frustration into courage and engagement.

Melanie Rouppe van der Voort is a certified coach and in addition to her private coaching practice, has been working in the financial industry for over 25 years. With her legal and change management background, she is currently working for the Expert Centre of Governance, Behaviour and Culture at the Dutch Central Bank. She has been married to her husband Willem for over 22 years and together they have a 17-year-old son and 14-year-old daughter.

The Worldwork Project is a key element in the ORSC certification journey. It allows students to apply the ORSC™ materials in the real world and develop themselves as change agents. At CRR Global we hold all our students as change agents and train them to be conscious of what impact they want to make in their world. We believe that everybody’s impact –whether conscious or unconscious— sends ripples out into the world. It’s up to all of us, as world workers, to keep our communities safe and healthy. For more information about World Work and the ORSC Certification programme click here.
We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Conversations on Cancer is a 6-part mini-series on the Relationship Matters podcast focusing on finding Right Relationship with life-threatening illness. Across the 6 episodes, Faith Fuller and Katie Churchman talk with survivors & caregivers from around the world about their relationship with life-threatening illness. In this episode, Katie talks with Marita Fridjhon and Daphne Taylor about what it means to be in right relationship when one is a caregiver.

Daphne Taylor is ORSC faculty and was Front of Room and certification faculty over a period of 13 years, and is now part of the team producing CRR Global’s new Systemic Supervision program. Her husband, Paul, was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer in 2015 and given 12-18 months to live. They had been married for 34 years and had a strong, loving relationship and were just emerging from the years of child-rearing to planning exciting adventures ahead. Paul lived for 18 months and died in a hospice, just after his 60th birthday in 2017.

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. Her business and life partner Faith Fuller was diagnosed with stage 4 Uterine Cancer in September 2021. She is currently in remission.

Conversations on Cancer is a 6-part mini-series on the Relationship Matters podcast focusing on finding Right Relationship with life-threatening illness. Across the 6 episodes, Faith Fuller and Katie Churchman talk with survivors & caregivers from around the world about their relationship with life-threatening illness. In this episode, Faith and Katie talk with Stephanie Kleine-Ahlbrandt about finding Right Relationship with uncertainty.

Stephanie Kleine-Ahlbrandt is a certified Leadership and Organizational Coach and Consultant, who has worked for more than 25 years on some of the world’s most intractable conflicts with the United Nations, governments, and global think tanks, traveling to over eighty countries and living in Asia, Europe, Africa and the Americas. She was diagnosed in March 2021 at age 52 with inoperable Stage 4 Cholangiocarcinoma, a rare and incurable bile duct cancer with poor prognosis. She is being treated at Memorial Sloan Kettering in New York City where she has so far undergone 40 infusions of platinum-based chemotherapy.

Conversations on Cancer is a 6-part mini-series on the Relationship Matters podcast focusing on finding Right Relationship with life-threatening illness. Across the 6 episodes, Faith Fuller and Katie Churchman talk with survivors & caregivers from around the world about their relationship with life-threatening illness. In this episode, Katie talks with Faith Fuller about her own journey with cancer. How can we be in Right Relationship with life-threatening illness?

Faith Fuller is co-founder of CRR Global. She was diagnosed with stage 4 Uterine Cancer in September 2021 and is currently in remission. In true Faith fashion, she wants to create a global conversation about the cancer curveball that impacts so many of our lives.

Conversations on Cancer is a 6-part mini-series on the Relationship Matters podcast focusing on finding Right Relationship with life-threatening illness. Across the 6 episodes, Faith Fuller and Katie Churchman talk with survivors & caregivers from around the world about their relationship with life-threatening illness. In this epsiode, Faith and Katie are talking with Mish Middleman about right relationship with prostate cancer and male identity.

Mish Middelmann was the founding CEO of Praxis Computing, a hi-tech start-up in the 1990s, and then became a systems coach, brought ORSC to Africa in 2012 and is now a part of the CRR Global faculty, both leading ORSC courses and supervising certification students worldwide. Mish was an apparently very fit and healthy 61-year-old when he was lucky enough to be diagnosed with prostate cancer just before it spread beyond his prostate gland. After being bewildered by the complete absence of a roadmap for recovery from the side effects of his treatment, he created www.recoveringman.net, where he, his partner and many other prostate cancer survivors share their stories very frankly and intimately, as they unfold. This has also led to a global Recovering Men support group – a space of live conversation, vulnerable strength and openness.

Conversations on Cancer is a 6-part mini-series on the Relationship Matters podcast focusing on finding Right Relationship with life-threatening illness. Across the 6 episodes, Faith Fuller and Katie Churchman talk with survivors & caregivers from around the world about their relationship with life-threatening illness. In this episode, Faith and Katie talk with Sally Waters about what it means to be in right relationship with death when a diagnosis is terminal.

Sally Waters is a retired mediator and ORSC coach. She has a wife and 3 kids aged 17, 21 and 26. She was diagnosed with Stage III breast cancer in Jan 2013, and then with Stage IV breast cancer in June 2014 which has spread to her spine.

Conversations on Cancer is a 6-part mini-series on the Relationship Matters podcast focusing on finding Right Relationship with life-threatening illness. Across the 6 episodes, Faith Fuller and Katie Churchman talk with survivors & caregivers from around the world about their relationship with life-threatening illness. In this episode, Faith and Katie talk with Linda Berlot about finding Right Relationship with the body during the journey of cancer

Linda Berlot is Director of Faculty Development at CRR Global and ORSC Partner for the UAE. She is a human development specialist with more than 19 years of experience in the fields of learning and development, strategic organizational change and team dynamics with a focus on creating alignment in the organizations she works with. She is of Italian origin and has been living in the United Arab Emirates and working in the Middle East since 2004. She was diagnosed with breast cancer 10 years ago and has had a radical mastectomy and reconstruction.

Since its inception, the Relationship Matters podcast continues to explore topics and concepts, often pushing boundaries in conversations. On Wednesday, we will be launching our next miniseries - Conversations on Cancer, focusing on finding Right Relationship with life-threatening illness

Co-Founder of CRR Global Faith Fuller is currently in remission following her own journey with cancer and is joining podcast creator Katie Churchman to present six interviews with cancer survivors or their caregivers.

Visit the Relationship Matter podcast feed on Wednesday 25th May to listen to all six episodes.

Across this 3-part special, Katie talks with Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz co-authors of Golden The Power of Silence in a World of Noise. The book reveals how to go beyond the ordinary rules and tools of mindfulness. It’s a field guide for navigating the noise of the modern world—not just the noise in our ears but also on our screens and in our heads. Drawing on lessons from neuroscience, business, spirituality, politics, and the arts, Marz and Zorn explore why auditory, informational, and internal silence is essential for physical health, mental clarity, ecological sustainability, and vibrant community.

In part 3 we discuss how to repair our world, using silence as a powerful force for transformation and rethinking the structures which organise our lives.

Leigh Marz is a faculty member at CRR Global and a collaboration consultant and leadership coach for major universities, corporations, and federal agencies. In addition, she is a long time student of pioneering researchers and practitioners of the ritualized use of psychedelic medicines in the West. In her professional work, she has led diverse initiatives, including a training program to promote an experimental mindset among teams at NASA and a decade-long cross-sector collaboration to reduce toxic chemicals in products, in partnership with Green Science Policy Institute, Harvard University, IKEA, Google, and Kaiser Permanente. Leigh lives in Berkeley, California, with her husband and daughter.

Justin Talbot Zorn has served as both a policymaker and a meditation teacher in the U.S. Congress. A Harvard- and Oxford-trained specialist in the economics and psychology of well-being, Justin has written for the Washington Post, The Atlantic, Harvard Business Review, Foreign Policy, and other publications. Along with Leigh, he confounded Astrea Strategies, a consultancy that bridges contemplation and action, helping leaders and teams envision and communicate solutions to complex challenges. He lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico, with his wife and three children.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across this 3-part special, Katie talks with Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz co-authors of Golden The Power of Silence in a World of Noise. The book reveals how to go beyond the ordinary rules and tools of mindfulness. It’s a field guide for navigating the noise of the modern world—not just the noise in our ears but also on our screens and in our heads. Drawing on lessons from neuroscience, business, spirituality, politics, and the arts, Marz and Zorn explore why auditory, informational, and internal silence is essential for physical health, mental clarity, ecological sustainability, and vibrant community.

In part 2, we discuss the dark side of silence, appreciating and understanding silence as an ally, silence as a presence, and learning how to look turn into the silent spaces that live between all of the noise in our lives

Leigh Marz is a faculty member at CRR Global and a collaboration consultant and leadership coach for major universities, corporations, and federal agencies. In addition, she is a long time student of pioneering researchers and practitioners of the ritualized use of psychedelic medicines in the West. In her professional work, she has led diverse initiatives, including a training program to promote an experimental mindset among teams at NASA and a decade-long cross-sector collaboration to reduce toxic chemicals in products, in partnership with Green Science Policy Institute, Harvard University, IKEA, Google, and Kaiser Permanente. Leigh lives in Berkeley, California, with her husband and daughter.

Justin Talbot Zorn has served as both a policymaker and a meditation teacher in the U.S. Congress. A Harvard- and Oxford-trained specialist in the economics and psychology of well-being, Justin has written for the Washington Post, The Atlantic, Harvard Business Review, Foreign Policy, and other publications. Along with Leigh, he confounded Astrea Strategies, a consultancy that bridges contemplation and action, helping leaders and teams envision and communicate solutions to complex challenges. He lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico, with his wife and three children.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Across this 3-part special, Katie talks with Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz co-authors of Golden The Power of Silence in a World of Noise. The book reveals how to go beyond the ordinary rules and tools of mindfulness. It’s a field guide for navigating the noise of the modern world—not just the noise in our ears but also on our screens and in our heads. Drawing on lessons from neuroscience, business, spirituality, politics, and the arts, Marz and Zorn explore why auditory, informational, and internal silence is essential for physical health, mental clarity, ecological sustainability, and vibrant community.

In part 1 we explore how to better navigate the noise of the modern world. Across the conversation, we discuss different interpretations of silence, what gets in the way of silence, the power of silence and how we can all benefit from it, how silence helped them to write this book, how to find pockets of silence in our everyday lives.

Leigh Marz is a faculty member at CRR Global and a collaboration consultant and leadership coach for major universities, corporations, and federal agencies. In addition, she is a long time student of pioneering researchers and practitioners of the ritualized use of psychedelic medicines in the West. In her professional work, she has led diverse initiatives, including a training program to promote an experimental mindset among teams at NASA and a decade-long cross-sector collaboration to reduce toxic chemicals in products, in partnership with Green Science Policy Institute, Harvard University, IKEA, Google, and Kaiser Permanente. Leigh lives in Berkeley, California, with her husband and daughter.

Justin Talbot Zorn has served as both a policymaker and a meditation teacher in the U.S. Congress. A Harvard- and Oxford-trained specialist in the economics and psychology of well-being, Justin has written for the Washington Post, The Atlantic, Harvard Business Review, Foreign Policy, and other publications. Along with Leigh, he confounded Astrea Strategies, a consultancy that bridges contemplation and action, helping leaders and teams envision and communicate solutions to complex challenges. He lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico, with his wife and three children.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie is talking with SunčicaGetter and Marita Fridjhon about Systemic supervision. CRR Global’s new Systemic Supervision program launched at the start of this year, as a way to help team coaches ‘walk the talk’ through understanding the many levels (and layers) of systems that may show up in systemic coaching. Systemic supervision is a reflective practice, that uses the principles of RSI as a framework for deepening our understanding of ourselves and the systems that we are working with.

For more information about CRR Global's systemic supervision program, please click here.

Sunčica Getter, MA, PCC, is a systemic coach, consultant and educator. With over 20 years of experience, her focus is on transformational leadership development and systemic culture change. Sunčica is a faculty member of CRR Global and a UK Faculty Lead and Senior Consultant for Performance Consultants International. Her work in coaching education has seen her train, mentor and supervise coaches and design and deliver academic, public, and in-house coaching training and accreditation courses. Her experiences collaborating with world-class coaching institutions and diverse clients have made Sunčica a trusted systemic coaching consultant. She advises companies and institutions on the implementation of systemic coaching and systemic thinking for both organisational and community development.

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie is talking with CRR Global co-founder and CEO Marita Fridjhon about curiosity and quantum flirts. Building off their last conversationin which they explored chasing the speed of change, they explore how quantum flirts- or tiny synchronistic signals in the world around us- can help us to slow down and see situations differently. The term, ‘Quantum flirt’ comes from the work of Arnold Mindell, to describe the most fleeting perceptions. It's called a quantum flirt since it’s short-lived and has the feel of the universe winking at you! Across the episode Marita and Katie discuss the power of a “yes and…” mindset, using distractions in the world around us as a way into relationship, dancing with whatever emerges, and seeing the abundance in all things.

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In part one of two special bonus episodes with CRR Global co-founder and CEO Marita Fridjhon, Marita and Katie discuss ways in which we can create space within the pace of change. How can we slow down upfront in order to speed up in the long run? Chasing the speed of change happens on every level and it’s inevitable. It’s part of being human. So we have to work really hard at slowing down in order to focus on the people in front of us and connect with where we are. Practising pause is essential for our relational evolution. Whilst everything else speeds up to around us how can we create moments of pause in order to reflect on where we are and connect with who’s in front of us?

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this bonus episode of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie talks with Marita Fridjhon and Frank Uit de Weerd about their new book, ‘Systems Inspired Leadership: How to tap collective wisdom to navigate change, enhance agility and foster collaboration.’ The book, which topped the Amazon charts Business & Organizational Learning in its first week, offers a powerful alternative for innovative leaders. Instead of an outmoded and ineffective top-down, leader-knows-all style that results in stress, pressure, and anxiety, Systems Inspired Leadership offers a fresh, proven approach for achieving optimal results for organizations.

Systems Inspired Leadership is available to purchase on Amazon.

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

Frank Uit de Weerd is an organizational psychologist and executive/team/systems coach with extensive experience in leadership development, business innovation and cultural transformation. He builds on more than 25 years of international experience in Human Resources with Royal Dutch Shell, where he held assignments in Europe (Netherlands, Belgium, UK), Africa (Gabon) and Asia (Malaysia). He believes that it’s critical for organizations to create a work environment where people feel safe to bring their whole person and where they are supported and encouraged to step into their magnificence. These so-called human-centered organizations create superior results and are key for building a better, more conscious and sustainable world.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Systems Inspired Leadership: How to Tap Collective Wisdom to Navigate Change, Enhance Agility, and Foster Collaboration

In the final episode of season 3, Katie talks with Faith Fuller and Yuri Morikawa and the evolution of women's leadership. Faith Fuller, co-founder of CRR Global and Yuri Morikawa founder of CRR Japan have an international friendship and creative partnership that spans over 12 years. In this podcast, they share a topic that is close to their hearts and one that has been evolving across through their conversations for many years: the evolution of women’s leadership. Across the episode, they discuss the triple goddess archetype (maiden, mother, crone) as a framework for understanding the evolution of women’s leadership, how they have evolved as leaders in their work and lives, the unique qualities women bring to leadership and what we might embrace from the different life stages.

Faith Fuller is co-owner and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 15 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams . She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

Yuri Morikawa has been an active player in the professional coaching field since 2004. Prior to her career in coaching, Yuri worked as a management consultant specializing in organizational and leadership development for 13 years. After being a trainer for Coaching Training Institute (CTI) for 8 years, she launched the Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) program in Japan and founded CRR Japan in 2009. Currently, she is a global faculty member of CRR Global, developing professional organizational coaches around the world such as in Japan, China, Singapore, South Africa, Australia. She is passionate about bringing her professional experience to the bigger social context and works extensively with NGOs in Social Sectors such as Kamonohashi Project supporting survivor leaders of human trafficking issues in India and Asia Rural Institute educating organic farming and developing servant leadership for rural leaders in Asia and Africa.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with ORSC coach and Agile expert Terrance Turpin about micromanagers as a voice of the system. Many managers who are dealing with cross-functional teams can all too easily fall into the habit of micro-managing. They are now removed from the products that previously led to promotion and are now suddenly expected to focus on the people. They find themselves stuck- still looking to be tactical as opposed to working relationally and systemically with their teams. As coaches, as opposed to trying to ‘fix’ the individual manager, can we look at the systemic structures that lead to micro-managing and consider what’s driving that behavior. Across the episode, Katie and Terrance discuss the biggest challenge for change for functional managers, how coaches can help them to fill the role differently and how to help managers shift from focusing on products to people.

Terrance Turpin has over 20 years of experience in Technology and Software Development and is also a CRR USA staff member. Terrance blends Team coaching – supporting teams in clarifying, aligning & co-creating as a diverse but single entity -and Agility coaching – establishing healthy states of flow across an organization by coaching for alignment in structure, processes, environments, and relationships. Terrance believes that the coaching process is one that generates understanding and alignment for the client, their environments, and those they interact with.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Floyd Carlson is back on the show talking about Neuroscience and Teams. This is the second installment of a two-part special, focusing on neuroscience and what it can teach us about relationship. In Part 2, Floyd focused specifically on teams and looking at what the latest neuroscience research can teach us about our work with teams. Across the episode, Katie and Floyd discuss a variety of topics including David Rock’s SCARF Model and the five domains of human social experience (status, certainty, autonomy, relatedness, and fairness), leadership as a role that belongs to the system and updating our group behavioral patterns in service of creating resilient and resourceful teams. If you haven't listened to part 1, we'd highly recommend checking out Neuroscience & Relationship.

Floyd Carlson is a Front of the Room Leader for CRR Global who focuses on leaders, teams and bringing the best out of individuals based on company and individual objectives. Floyd has more than 30 years of business and military experience which he combines with his coaching, training, and organizational development to help leaders achieve professional and personal goals in alignment with company needs.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global CEO and Co-Founder Marita Fridjhon about hearing, seeing and sensing Systems. The capacity to be present with systems is at the heart of Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching and a coach or leader can do this through a variety of different channels, like seeing, hearing and feeling. Across the episode Katie and Marita look at the benefits of truly listening, connecting with systems across different channels, sensing the emotional field of systems and tuning into wider systems.

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work.She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Master Coach Maddie Weinreich is back on the show talking about two further coaching competencies she sees coaches struggling with the most: Revealing the system to itself and working with the emotional field. As well as being past director of faculty and leader development at CRR Global Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification. Over the course of the episode, Katie and Maddie discuss ways to reveal the system to itself, the power of revealing and how to work with the emotional field and ways to help your clients. If you haven't listened to part 1, we'd highly recommend checking out Coaching Competencies: Holding the system as client.

Maddie Weinreich specializes in strengthening the interpersonal relationships that exist within business environments for the purpose of enhancing team performance and productivity. She coaches leadership teams around the globe to navigate change and to effectively improve organizational cultures within large and small businesses. Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification. Maddie holds the Master Certified Coach (MCC) credential with the International Coaches Federation (ICF). She is a Certified Organization and Relationship Systems Coach (ORSCC), a Certified Team Performance Coach (CTPC), and a Certified Professional Co-Active Coach (CPCC). Maddie also provides mentoring services and consultation for professionals working in the field of relationship growth and development.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Linda Berlot is back on the show discussing leadership in a multi-cultural world. In a globalized world, where multi-cultural teams are the norm, it is becoming ever more essential for leaders to develop intercultural skills. Intercultural intelligence is the ability to assist culture at a pragmatic, personal and organizational level. Across the episode, Katie and Linda explore the definition of intercultural intelligence, the different world views, how to hear from marginalized voices and how to develop more intercultural intelligence in teams.

Linda Berlot is Director of Faculty Development at CRR Global and ORSC Partner for the UAE. She is a human development specialist with more than 19 years of experience in the fields of learning and development, strategic organizational change and team dynamics with a focus on creating alignment in the organizations she works with. She is of Italian origin and has been living in the United Arab Emirates and working in the Middle East since 2004.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member and founder of CRR Japan, Yuri Morikawa about how listening is healing. Across the episode, they discuss listening as a superpower, what it means to really listen, the potential of listening in Relationship Systems Work, healing through listening, and how to truly listen to ourselves, our clients and the world around us at a deeper level.

Yuri Morikawa has been an active player in the professional coaching field since 2004. Prior to her career in coaching, Yuri worked as a management consultant specializing in organizational and leadership development for 13 years. After being a trainer for Coaching Training Institute (CTI) for 8 years, she launched the Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching (ORSC) program in Japan and founded CRR Japan in 2009. Currently, she is a global faculty member of CRR Global, developing professional organizational coaches around the world such as in Japan, China, Singapore, South Africa, Australia. She is passionate about bringing her professional experience to the bigger social context and works extensively with NGOs in Social Sectors such as Kamonohashi Project supporting survivor leaders of human trafficking issues in India and Asia Rural Institute educating organic farming and developing servant leadership for rural leaders in Asia and Africa.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Difference shows us in all shapes, sizes, colors, accents, languages, cultures, classes and backgrounds. So how do we want to be with that difference? In this episode, Ronnie Ndlovu discusses ways we can normalize and acknowledge our differences and use them as an asset for collaboration. After all, if we were all the same, where would innovation, learning and creativity live? Across the episode Ronnie and Katie cover a range of topics including the impact of intolerance, rank and privilege, working with different languages and accents, building empathy and leaning into edges.

Ronnie Ndlovu is one of South Africa’s first two coaches to certify in the advanced ORSC methodology and be chosen for CRR’s international faculty. As a top coach in the southern African region over more than a decade, he serves corporate, individual and non-profit clients throughout the Southern African Development Community (SADC) region find alignment while maximizing productivity and innovation. In addition to his ORSC qualifications, he completed a one-year Co-Active Coach training program in 2007 with the Coaches Training Institute and is an expert in the use of the Enneagram. He is a member of the International Coach Federation (ICF). He has also completed a two-year program on Process Work Facilitation based on Process Orientated Psychology.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Linda Berlot is back on the show discussing what it means to be a cultural learner vs. a cultural critic. A Cultural Critic is an individual who only looks at the world through his or her own culture whereas a Cultural Learner is someone who accepts and engages with other cultures through a healthy dose of curiosity. Across the episode Linda and Katie discuss what it means to live in a globalized world, changing our perception of that which is different, the attitudes and behaviors of a cultural learner, different cultural structures, and understanding culture like an operating system.

Linda Berlot is a human development specialist with more than 19 years of experience in the fields of learning and development, strategic organizational change and team dynamics with a focus on creating alignment in the organizations she works with. She is of Italian origin and has been living in the United Arab Emirates and working in the Middle East since 2004. Linda is a Director of Faculty Development at CRR Global. She is the ORSC Partner for the UAE and is currently one of only 19 people globally to hold the license to train and deliver the RSI@work material in-house to corporations.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode Katie talks with ORSC faculty leader and CRR Canada partner, Kerry Woodcock about the magic of Metaskills.

The concept of metaskills was first introduced by Amy Mindell and has since been enhanced and leveraged in key tools in the ORSC approach. A metaSkill is the attitude, stance, philosophy, or “come from” place that both the leader and team members stand in when doing this work. The intentional use of MetaSkills provides an invaluable skillset that can improve overall performance and connectivity. MetaSkills are like rooms that can be stepped into, which then ‘perfume’ the work.

Kerry Woodcock leads change for a world of change, by both holding and challenging leaders, organizations and social systems to amplify the power of relationship—for it is powerful relationship that creates meaningful change. Kerry is an International Coach Federation Professional Certified Coach, certified in Co-active Coaching and Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching, with a doctorate in Geography and Environmental Management. Kerry’s training and research in human and social development is combined with over twenty-five years of practical experience in partnering with leaders and their organizations on their growth and development journeys. She has worked in a range of organizational contexts, from Non-Governmental Organizations to corporations and government in a variety of industries, from Forestry to Energy, and Engineering and Finance to Media and Communications and Libraries, and across cultures, from UK and Spain to Tanzania and Ethiopia and Canada and USA. British-born, she is based in Canada with the world as her playground. She is the Director of Novalda and CRR Canada.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) discusses the process of Meet, Reveal, Align and Act. Whether we are engaging in a one-on-one conversation with a neighbor or working with a large group, these three phases can help us when working with all types of Relationship Systems. Across the episode we discuss how to effectively meet a system, helping clients to keep moving forward during the reveal phase, the importance of align & act, and using this process as a meeting planner.

Sandra Cain is Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global. Her background includes 15 years’ experience at American Express with a variety of leadership and personal development roles. She bridges that experience with her current passion for building relationships, increasing positivity and developing communication skills in service of creating and navigating change in the workplace.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, restoration practitioner Jennifer Pernfuss talks about how to resolve harassment complaints (and conflict) using a systems inspired approach.

If you’ve not had a chance to listen to part 1, we'd highly recommend checking out Workplace conflict (part 1): The balcony view. In part 1, Jennifer and Katie discuss the importance of taking a systemic view in highly charged and complex workplace harassment cases. In this episode, Jennifer walks us through the typical process and procedure of a workplace harassment case; explains the different stakeholders in play; discusses the importance of creating psychological safety; and looks ahead to the type of reform she would like to see happen.

Jennifer Pernfuss is a non-practicing lawyer with a degree in Psychology and has maintained a consulting and coaching business for 27 years focusing exclusively on the prevention and elimination of workplace discrimination, harassment and the resolution of workplace conflict and employee complaints. Trained in systems theory, process-oriented psychology and relationship systems coaching combined with her understanding of the law Jennifer develops and implements restorative processes, helps repair strained working relationships and move parties to resolution.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Floyd Carlson about Neuroscience and Relationships. This is the first of 2 installments on neuroscience and what it can teach us about our relationships. In Part 1 we’re talking about how neuroscience can help us to better understand ourselves because the more we are aware of what’s going on within us, the more it’s going to help us as coaches, leaders and human beings. We discuss a variety of topics including how to regulate in the moment, types of intuition, the body budget, how we create our emotions through a process of prediction and how to disrupt our prediction patterns so that we can be more at choice in our lives.

Floyd Carlson is a Front of the Room Leader for CRR Global who focuses on leaders, teams and bringing the best out of individuals based on company and individual objectives. Floyd has more than 30 years of business and military experience which he combines with his coaching, training, and organizational development to help leaders achieve professional and personal goals in alignment with company needs.

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Lisa Feldman Barret TED talk

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global CEO and co-founder Marita Fridjhon about the competencies behind system inspired leadership. Systems Inspired Leadership (SIL) is an innovative approach to leadership that creates from the wisdom of the system rather than tells people what to do and builds shared leadership at all levels of the organization. Their discussion includes what is and isn’t a systems inspired leader, how to empower leaders and teams to adopt this different approach to leadership, how Systems’ inspired leadership set us up to better navigate the complexity and disruptive forces of the 21st century and stepping into the collective intelligence of the system itself.

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work.She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie is talking with Neil Edwards about Leadership and Love. In business ‘love’ is not a word, characteristic, or value, we often see or use. Yet, what might be the value of bringing more ‘love’ into the workplace? And how might leading with love transform our working relationships and company cultures? Across the episode we discuss how love affirms life, the sanitation of words in the workplace, the challenges and missed opportunities in leaving love out of the boardroom; expanding our leadership range in include love and loving response, creating shared understanding around what love means, and the power of living and leading with love.

Neil Edwards is a Front of the Room Leader and Certification Faculty for CRR Global. Neil specializes in expanding range and strengthening resilience for leaders, and creating capacity and capability of teams and organizational systems to be positive, productive, and agile in the face of change. He coaches and teaches individuals, teams, and larger organizational systems to identify values, define purpose, act intentionally, think systemically, be inclusive, and nurture wellbeing. He has extensive experience coaching accountants, engineers, attorneys, MBAs, executives, and finance; brand; and IT professionals in corporations, government, and professional services.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Master Coach Maddie Weinreich delves into two of the coaching competencies she sees new systems coaches’ struggling with the most: holding the system as the client and holding the system as intelligent, generative, and creative. Over the course of the episode, Maddie discusses tips, traps and tricks to using these competencies, what it means to ‘hold the system’ as a client, some of the benefits of working with our clients in this way and empowering the system by holding them as inherently intelligent, generative and creative.

Maddie Weinreich specializes in strengthening the interpersonal relationships that exist within business environments for the purpose of enhancing team performance and productivity. She coaches leadership teams around the globe to navigate change and to effectively improve organizational cultures within large and small businesses. Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification. Maddie holds the Master Certified Coach (MCC) credential with the International Coaches Federation (ICF). She is a Certified Organization and Relationship Systems Coach (ORSCC), a Certified Team Performance Coach (CTPC), and a Certified Professional Co-Active Coach (CPCC). Maddie also provides mentoring services and consultation for professionals working in the field of relationship growth and development.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with Linda Berlot about working with Global Time Spirits. They discuss the types of global time spirits that are showing up, the different ways we deal with these issues on a global scale, working with intercultural teams, and looking through the lens of different cultures.

Linda Berlot is a human development specialist with more than 19 years of experience in the fields of learning and development, strategic organizational change and team dynamics with a focus on creating alignment in the organizations she works with. She is of Italian origin and has been living in the United Arab Emirates and working in the Middle East since 2004. Linda is a Director of Faculty Development at CRR Global. She is the ORSC Partner for the UAE and is currently one of only 19 people globally to hold the license to train and deliver the RSI@work material in-house to corporations.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie talks with workplace conflict expert, Jennifer Pernfuss, about how to effectively meet systems amidst conflict and crisis, by taking the balcony view. They discuss why it’s important to bring a systems lens to issues involving workplace harassment, using workplace conflict in a constructive manner, creating psychological safety, and the role of rank and privilege.

Jennifer Pernfuss is a non-practicing lawyer with a degree in Psychology and has maintained a consulting and coaching business for 27 years focusing exclusively on the prevention and elimination of workplace discrimination, harassment and the resolution of workplace conflict and employee complaints. Trained in systems theory, process-oriented psychology and relationship systems coaching combined with her understanding of the law Jennifer develops and implements restorative processes, helps repair strained working relationships and move parties to resolution.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller and CRR faculty member Janet Frood about viewing Nature as an ally when we consider relationship systems intelligence. This isn’t just about considering our relationship with nature but also, thinking about how nature is a part of us and looking at what nature can teach us. Across the episode, they cover a variety of colorful topics including: nature’s ability to shift our perspective; the healing power of nature; and nature’s insight into relationship challenges.

Janet Frood is an executive, team and leadership coach who focuses on human and relational dimensions of organizational development. After 20 years of what Janet calls her “accidental” career, she made a big leap and completely changed my own career path. In 2005, she founded Horizon Leadership and dedicated her work to supporting leaders and teams on their journey. Janet’s inspirational work focuses on the human and relational dimensions of organizational life – cultivating the talent and resourcefulness of individuals and teams so they move towards their goals together.

Faith Fuller is co-owner and President of CRR Global. She is a psychologist and experienced trainer and coach, with over 15 years of experience in working with organizations, couples and communities. Faith takes a systems approach to coaching, namely that all aspects of the system need to be addressed in order for effective change to occur. Her particular skill is empowering powerful, productive and joyous relationships in couples, partnerships and teams . She also has a background in consultation, team building, conflict resolution and community crisis intervention.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

To kick-start a brand new season of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie Churchman talks with Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) about crossing edges around returning to the office.

After over a year of lock-down and remote working, many organizations are now contemplating a return to the office. However, there’s no clear road map for navigating this change and business leaders are finding that the challenges are much more complicated than originally thought. Looking through a systems lens, Sandra considers the opportunities for relationship as we cross edges and create new ways of working together during this transition into another new normal with regards to company culture, work-life balance and clear and courageous communication.

Sandra Cain coaches individuals, pairs and teams around the world. Her background includes 15 years of experience at American Express with a variety of leadership and personal development roles. In addition to leading the CRR Global Core Curriculum, she is also Associate Director of the Certification Program and on faculty for The Coaches Training Institute. Her stand for this work is that since we’re already in relationships, we might as well be conscious and intentional about who we are, what we do and how we live.

For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with Yuri Morikawa about how she has brought ORSC to the world in many different ways- personally and professionally, individually and collectively.

Over the course of this episode Yuri takes us on a journey of discovery, expressing the many ways she has used ORSC in her life: firstly, by bringing ORSC to Japan and forming CRR Japan; she then discusses working directly with relationship expert John Gottman to bring new life into her marriage; then finally Yuri explains how she actively uses the ORSC tools to help NGOs work more effectively with survivors of human trafficking or as she calls them in this episode ‘survivor leaders.’

Yuri has been an active player in the professional coaching field since 2004. She has trained and coached more than 1000 leaders and coaches globally from various backgrounds, such as corporate executives, NGO leaders, business owners, independent professionals, and dream seekers of their own.

For more information about the Kamonohashi project and the Survivors Leadership Programme, please click here.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with Jess Sedler about she blended ORSC with performance and cabaret, in what she has categorized as her first ‘Ted Talk’ cabaret.

Jess is an ICF accredited systemic coach and facilitator in both private and not-for-profit sectors. Through her brand ‘Self and System’ she coaches leaders and teams, as well as family systems, to develop their relational intelligence and build strong and intentional communication skills. Jess originally trained as an actress which helps her work practically and holistically with clients in terms of their impact. As an actress, she worked in theatre in the UK and around Europe. She co-founded cabaret ensemble The Ruby Dolls and together, they have written, performed and produced five full-length cabaret theatre shows in four-part harmony to sold-out audiences across London, as well as critically acclaimed runs at the Edinburgh Festival.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.

In this episode, Katie is talking with Keiko Muramatsu about how she used ORSC tools in sports. Keiko is a co-representative and faculty member of CRR Global Japan and the founder of THRIVE. Thrive sees supporting people and teams as just the starting point and believes that their transformation impacts the world beyond themselves. Prior to her coaching career, Keiko played lacrosse for Japan in the world cup and went on to be the General Manager of Japan’s women’s U-19 team. As part of her ORSC certification journey, Keiko began using ORSC tools to coach the young lacrosse players, and also the wider systems that they were involved in.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episode, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with Wael El Helou. Wael is a Director at “trace and the former Director of CRR Lebanon

From managing one corporate transformation to another, Wael has led a multi-disciplinary corporate career that, combined with an eloquent passion to make a difference, has led him to co-found “trace and to dedicate his life to making people and organizations stronger than their challenges.

During this podcast, Wael discusses how he used ORSC tools to help open up a dialogue between Lebanon students and Syrian Refugees. Lebanon has the largest per capita population of Syrian refugees in the world. As of 2020, the Lebanese government estimates their country hosts 1.5 million Syrian refugees.

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of World Work, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst World Work can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 ‘world workers’ from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities.

In this episode Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into the 5th and final principle of RSI: Relationship Systems are in a constant state of emergence, always in the process of expressing their potential.

This principle is critical to the phenomenon referred to as the speed of change. It signifies modern society’s increasingly shorter planning horizons and the required flexibility to embrace and navigate change effectively. Successful organizations are nimble and flexible in the face of shifting tides.

Most people are averse to change because they are afraid of the unknown or of losing the status quo. Even the word “change” itself often creates resistance. With RSI, the premise is to accept change as constant, natural and inevitable and to co-create with and from it. Leaders need to move away from the traditional unfreeze-change-freeze paradigm and encourage teams to embrace change as a natural and continuous evolution necessary for survival.

In this episode, Floyd Carlson and Katie Churchman are discussing the power of small habits and fresh starts. Building on their previous discussion around myths and myth change they explore ways of refreshing or completely rewriting narratives in our everyday lives. How can we change the stories that will enable us to step into new ways of being, with each other and with ourselves.

We often wait for temporal markers- like a New Year or a birthday ending in a zero- to make big changes…but why can’t we start today? And what habits can we build into our lives to help us to keep us on track?

Join Katie and Floyd as they discuss ways in which we can utilize the power of storytelling in everyday life in order to consciously create new ways of being, with our teams, our partners and perhaps most importantly with ourselves.

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into the 4th principle of RSI: Relationship Systems Are Naturally Intelligent, Generative and Creative.

This principle allows us to view any change or disturbance as an ally while trusting the Team Entity’s resourcefulness to find its own answers. Conflict and chaos are seen as signals and messages by the Team Entity to co-create from- rather than react to- something new that is trying to happen.

The more RSI a team has, the more collectively intelligent, generative and creative it can be, paving the way for increased performance. These Relationship System qualities remain present regardless of circumstances, even in disturbance and breakdown (like during a global pandemic).

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Maddie Weinreich about toxic behaviors. Building on John Gottman’s research into couples they explore how to become more aware and ultimately reduce the amount of ‘toxins’ that show up in your relationship. The 4 Relationship Toxins are Defensiveness, Contempt, Stonewalling and Blaming. When used frequently, these toxic communication patterns are so lethal to human relationships that Dr. Gottman coined the term the “The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse”.

In this podcast, we discuss: the characteristics of the 4 toxins; becoming more aware of your own toxic behaviors; building a positivity bank account; repair bids; and perpetual problems in relationship.

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with ORSC coach and Agile expert Terrance Turpin. Terrance has over 20 years of experience in Technology and Software Development and is also a CRR USA staff member. Terrance blends Team coaching – supporting teams in clarifying, aligning & co-creating as a diverse but single entity -and Agility coaching – establishing healthy states of flow across an organization by coaching for alignment in structure, processes, environments, and relationships. Terrance believes that the coaching process is one that generates understanding and alignment for the client, their environments, and those they interact with.

In this episode, Terrance and Katie discuss some of the synergies between ORSC and Agile Coaching; how ORSC and agile are two sides of the same coin; and how a blend of ORSC and Agile can enable organizations to master continuous change.

In this episode, Floyd Carlson and Katie Churchman are discussing myths and myth change. The idea of a myth connects us with the archetypal roots of the relationship - which has great meaning and power. We are always developing who we are as a couple or a corporation, but often unconsciously. So by revealing this creative process to clients the coach we can make it much more conscious and intentional.

Floyd is a Front of the Room Leader for CRR Global who focuses on leaders and teams and bringing the best out of individuals based on company and individual objectives. Floyd has more than 30 years of business and military experience which he combines with his coaching, training, and organizational development to help leaders achieve professional and personal goals in alignment with company needs.

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into principle 3: Relationship Systems Rely on Roles for their Organization and Execution of functions. Roles belong to the system, not to the individuals that inhabit the system

This principle requires the biggest mental shift in teaming and leadership focus as it asserts that every team member has the responsibility to hold a leadership role on behalf of the system.

Every relationship system has its own functional and emotional needs that must be fulfilled through roles. Without assigned roles, the system can’t function.

These roles belong to the relationship system, not necessarily to the individuals that inhabit them. How one person embodies a role can be very different from how another person embodies that same role. Personal history, psychology, work style, maturity, etc. all impact how skillfully each individual inhabits that role.

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman deep-dive into the second of the 5 principles of Relationship Systems intelligence: Every member of the system is an information carrier and Voice of the System (VOS).

You can think of a team or family as a puzzle where every member is a piece. To reveal the picture of the overall team experience, every piece is needed. Each member has critical information about the functioning of that team or family. The information may be transmitted through verbal and non-verbal signals, as well as through the behaviors and actions of the individuals within the team.

As the Collective Intelligence research indicates, the more input acquired from others, the more informed a team will be in its decision-making.

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Maddie Weinreich about vitality for couples.

There are all kinds of ways we can be in relationship with our partners. Sometimes it can be very dull to be in a couple and can be very exciting! Relationships are in constant cycles.

In this episode, Maddie talks about relationship behavioral patterns that can help to foster more aliveness, engagement and vitality. After two decades of working with couples, Maddie’s noticed 5 recurring ‘elements’ in couples with high levels of vitality. These 5 elements are as follows:

1. Autonomy

2. Interdependence

3. Constructive Disagreement

4. Intimacy

5. Vision

When couples have all of these things going on there tends to be a good amount of engagement, aliveness and vitality.

In this episode, CRR Global faculty member Neil Edwards is talking about Allyship. An ally is any person that actively promotes and aspires to advance the culture of inclusion through intentional, positive and conscious efforts that benefit people as a whole.

Neil Edwards is a soulful leader and perceptive coach who works at the intersection of leadership, relationships, wellbeing, and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Neil supports leaders and teams and focuses on self-identity, self-authority, values, and purpose. He begins with a relationship lens and draws from co-active leadership, emotional and social intelligence, adult development, leadership embodiment, and health and wellness to help his clients increase their capacity and capability to lead in any context or system.

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon deep-dives into the first of the 5 principles of Relationship Systems Intelligence (or RSI): The Third Entity.

RSI involves the ability to move from seeing a group of individuals to seeing the system itself, as a living breathing entity and this is what we call Third Entity.

Relationship Systems Work holds that there is more present in a relationship than the individual team members. Along with the people involved, there is also the relationship or system itself. It is useful to consider the relationship as a separate “third entity” which has its own needs and voice. In Relationship Systems Work this Third Entity is the ultimate focus.

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with master coach Maddie Weinreich. As well as being the past director of faculty and leader development at CRR Global Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification

Maddie’s passion for personal development and human potential contributes to her success in the field of relationship coaching. For more than 25 years, Maddie’s own marriage has provided her with deep insights into the joys and challenges of a committed relationship. While raising her family in New England, Maddie has developed a great aptitude for helping others to discover the gifts that come from empowering relationships. These gifts serve to transform clients’ lives and help them move forward.

Maddie believes that all relationships have the potential for more growth and in this episode, Maddie discusses how to make your partner your ally.

In part 2 of Ghosts, Faith Fuller is talking about Time Spirits.

Time spirits are cultural ghosts, literally spirits of the times. Time Spirits arise from potent experiences or beliefs which involve the larger societal field. Each region or country has its own time spirits, depending on its history. For example, the United States wrestles with the Time Spirit of 9/11 and Germany works with the Time Spirit of the Holocaust,

In this episode, Faith talks about working with a Time Spirit. In order to work through a Time Spirit, we have to become aware of its impact on the relationship or team and design an alliance for dealing with it.

In Part-1 of Ghosts, Faith Fuller is talking about Ghost roles.

Ghost roles are invisible third-party presences that come and go and impact the emotional field. A ghost role is present when something is clearly affecting the relationship, yet isn’t talked about, and may not even be conscious to the people in the system.

Ghosts arise from our experiences in previous relationships, both personal and professional. They may be people, or they may be events and they can both negatively and positively influence our lives.

In this episode, Faith talks about becoming aware of ghosts, working with ghosts and potentially turning them into allies.

In the first episode of season 2, Marita Fridjhon introduces the 5 principles of Relationship Systems Intelligence (RSI). RSI has five key principles which shape what we believe, how we engage, and the “place from which we come.” These principles underpin all of our relationships and are therefore fundamental to everything we do, as coaches, leaders and human being. Understanding and engaging in these principles can help us to better access and apply Relationship Systems Intelligences, with our clients, our teams, and with our families.

Principle #1 Each Relationship System has its own Unique Entity or Marita referred to as the 3rd entity.

Principle #2 Every Member of a Relationship System Is a Voice of the System

Principle #3 Relationship Systems Are Naturally Intelligent, Generative and Creative

Principle #4 Relationship Systems Rely on Roles for their Organization and Execution of functions. Roles belong to the system, not to the individuals that inhabit the system

Principle #5 Relationship Systems Are In a Constant State of Emergence, always in the process of expressing their potential

In the Season 1 finale, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman are talking about meeting the system. How can we make sure we are meeting the people in front us, as they are in the present moment? When we’re coaching, it can be all too easy to presume we know who we’re talking to – particularly when it comes to longer-term coaching engagements. So each and every time we meet a system, how can we try to see it with brand new eyes? So that our preconceptions and past experiences don’t cloud our vision of what’s really there?

In this episode, Faith Fuller and Katie Churchman are discussing ways we can integrate Organizational Relationship Systems Coaching (otherwise known as ORSC) into our work and into our lives. If you already have an established coaching or consultancy practice, how might you benefit from ORSC? And how can you seamlessly blend ORSC into what you’re already doing?

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman talk about collective leadership. Many of us attribute the idea of ‘leadership’ to a particular person or a team of ‘leaders.' However, as Marita explains in this podcast, leadership can also be viewed as a role that belongs to the system. When we embrace this idea we start to see that inspired leadership can show up in the most unlikely places and from the most unlikely people. What would your team or family dynamic be like if there was more of a sense of shared responsibility around the idea of ‘leadership’? As opposed to belonging one person, can this be a role that we share?

In this episode, Faith Fuller is talking about setting a coaching agenda.

Establishing a clear agenda at the start of a coaching session is incredibly important because it sets expectations and also influences the relationship between coach and client. It’s a powerful tool that can set the tone for everything else to follow. But it can also be the coaching session in of itself. As Faith explains- the agenda doesn’t have to be something we rush to ‘get done’ at the beginning of the session.

When a client doesn’t know what they want or brings a really broad or vague ‘goal’ to a session how can we help them to get more clarity around their wants and needs?

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman are talking about reading and working with the emotional field, which is a key element of systems coaching. By closely tracking shifts in the emotional field we can start to reflect back and possibly shape the emotional climate in a given situation.

You can think of it like an immediate weather report of what is happening emotionally in this moment. And just like a weather report, it’s not exact. There might be a 69% chance of rain, just in the same way you sense some awkwardness in the field. It’s subjective, ever-changing and can provide us with a lot of information.

Alongside the emotional field, they discuss Metaskills, conscious intentionality, self-awareness and the intelligence of the body.

In response to the recent events in the US, Faith Fuller is asking: Where do we go from here? This is the same question Martin Luther King Jr wrote a book about in 1967 titled, ‘Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?’ And to quote king himself: ““In the days ahead we must not consider it unpatriotic to raise certain basic questions about our national character.”

So in this episode, Faith questions what more we can be doing as individuals to take a stand against racism? What are the next steps we can take towards a different kind of future? Whilst one person might not change the world, what they do- or don’t do- will be having an impact and creating a ripple effect.

During this time of upheaval and social conflict going on in the US, CRR Global and the Relationship Matters Podcast supports the stand against systemic racism, racial bias and the history of black community oppression. Relationship matters regardless of race and ethnicity.

We Believe Relationship Matters.
We Believe Black Lives Matter.
We Believe All Voices Matter.

In this episode, Marita is calling for productive dialogue around race and racism. What are the blind spots that stop us from connecting deeply in these kinds of conversations? What questions aren’t we asking? And how might we be missing… what is really being said?

Below are organizations we know about in the US to learn from, get active with, and help each other:

Black Lives Matters: https://blacklivesmatter.com
Equal Justice Initiative: https://eji.org
American Civil Liberties Union: https://www.aclu.org/action/

In light of recent events in the US, Faith Fuller is talking about our challenges with talking about racism. In this vulnerable and revealing conversation, Faith asks why so many white people struggle to talk about race and racism and interrogates her own discomfort around the subject. How can we stay in this uncomfortable space so that we can start having the kind of conversations that may lead to change?

In this episode, Faith Fuller is talking about what makes systems coaching different. What are the crossovers between pure coaching and consultancy and what is unique about systems coaching? What do we do? Why do we do it? And how does it help our clients?

Over the course of this conversation we discuss the following topics:

The differences between therapy and coaching
The differences between pure coaching and systems coaching
Blending consultancy and coaching
Giving our clients the tools to change their lives.

RSI-White-Paper: An Introduction to Relationship Systems Intelligence

In this episode, Marita Frijdhon is talking about system inspired leadership and why it is needed now more than ever. As we say in systems coaching, ‘the whole is greater than the sum of its parts’ and by utilizing this intelligence, teams of all shapes and sizes may find that they not only survive- but thrive- through challenging times. Instead of focusing on the individual mountain that we have to climb, let’s connect with the team around us, and consider what we can do together- today- to create positive change.

Key takeaways from the episode:

A systems inspired leader recognizes that they don’t always have to be in charge. Instead, they utilize the strengths within their team.
Systems inspired leaderships is about stepping back and seeing the bigger picture. A shift from micro-management to macro-analysis.
They are ‘we’ focused as opposed to ‘me’ focused
Stepping into a systems perspective will not only help your team to work more effectively it will also take the pressure off you as a leader.
Great leadership isn’t about having all the answers: it’s asking great questions.

In this episode, Faith Fuller is exploring Transparency. Practicing real, authentic transparency can be a very powerful tool- as a coach, a leader and as a human being. Transparency can help to build trust, deepen connections and humanize conversations.

This episode covers the importance of transparency when coaching systems you are a part of; being clear and upfront about hidden agendas; using transparency in emails and texts to offer clarity and also, using it as a tool for flagging intentions.

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is talking about life-giving and life-draining behaviours. What gives you life and what drains you? And which do you bring more of to your family, colleagues and community?

Over the course of the episode, Marita discusses becoming conscious of life-giving and life-draining qualities, the stages of grief and also takes a look at how the two qualities are more intertwined than we might realise. Can life-giving qualities exist within life-draining experiences, like grief?

In this episode of the Relationship Matters podcast, Faith Fuller is talking about the aftermath of an argument. Arguments are a normal part of relationship. So perhaps we should be less concerned about the amount we argue and more focused on how we argue.

And if we do blow up in relationship and we have a particularly unskillful argument, how can we more consciously recover from the blow and start to repair any damage that we might have created within the relationship? In this episode, we talk about the unwritten rules around our relationships that govern how we behave with our partners, children and colleagues. At CRR Global we refer to these social contracts as designed team alliances (which we refer to in this episode as a DTA). We also talk about how we can use fights as opportunities to learn and grow- both on an individual and an interpersonal level.

Right now, many of our roles have blended together. We might be playing parent, teacher and manager all at the same time because of the lock-down measures brought in by COVID-19.

Often people become identified with the job they are doing, which is what we refer to in this podcast as an “outer role” – like being CEO or cook. Or they identify with an emotional job for which they feel responsible – what we call an “inner role” like being the peacemaker, or the one who speaks up about things.

So join Marita as she talks about the different types of roles and what we might learn from the overlapping of the many roles in our lives. How might we better navigate this juggling of responsibilities, jobs and parts of self? Now and also beyond a time of COVID-19…

What does it mean to be in Right Relationship? In episode 1, Faith Fuller is exploring the many ways we can step into Right Relationship, with our partners, families, colleagues and also with ourselves. What does it mean to be in Right Relationship? And how can we become more conscious and intentional in relationships- particularly during challenging and uncertain times?