We Should Talk About That: Recent Episodes
Jessica Buchanan and Jessica Kidwell
NYT bestselling author of Impossible Odds, Jessica Buchanan, along with fellow writer Jessica Kidwell, attempt to unpack the uncomfortable topics that nobody is talking about, but definitely should. With intention to hold real, authentic, conversation about EVERYTHING, the Two Jess(es) bring their humor and a healthy dose of self-deprecation to the table as they unpack issues relating to PTSD, grief, imposter syndrome, body image, middle age, the plight of the working mom and more.
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"Therapy is not something that anyone needs, but it is something we all deserve."
-Dené Logan, Marriage and Family Therapist
This week I sit down with Dené Logan, a marriage and family therapist with a specialization in depth psychology. Dené is the author of "Sovereign: A Guide to Healing Relationships by Reclaiming the Masculine and Feminine Within." Dené shares her unique perspective on how depth psychology, often referred to as the psychology of the soul, can guide us to foster healthier relationships. Dené shares insights from her experience as a marriage and family therapist, emphasizing the importance of personal responsibility in relationships and the need for individuals to reclaim their authentic selves. We discuss the rise of the feminine in society and the significance of understanding healthy versus wounded energetics in both men and women. We also talk about the challenges of finding the right therapist and the value therapy has had on our personal growth.
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Dené Logan: https://denelogan.com/
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In this episode, I interview Lindsey Cormack, associate professor of political science and director of the diplomacy lab at Stevens Institute of Technology, and author of "How to Raise a Citizen."
We discuss the importance of teaching children about politics and civic engagement. Lindsey explains that civics education is often deprioritized in schools, leading to a lack of understanding among adults. She emphasizes the need for parents to take on the responsibility of teaching their children about citizenship and government.
Lindsey outlines five key skills that children should learn:
-how to register to vote,
-the difference between primary and general elections,
-understanding federalism,
-reading the constitution,
-and being comfortable with having hard conversations.
We also touch on the misconceptions around the United States being a democracy versus a constitutional republic.
From understanding the basics of government structure to the importance of voting and critical thinking, this episode is packed with insights and actionable advice. Whether you're a parent, educator, or simply someone looking to become a better citizen, this conversation is a must-listen. I certainly learned A LOT!
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Lindsey Cormack
https://www.lindseycormack.com/
Where to buy the book!
How to Raise a Citizen (And Why It's Up to You to Do It)
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=how+to+raise+a+citizen
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-raise-a-citizen-lindsey-cormack/1144821814
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Sometimes there's just too much good content for one episode, or we veer off on a different topic. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't get to hear it! That's where WeSTAT Bonus comes in.
This time it's with Gila Pfeffer, author of Nearly Departed.Our conversation touches on how Gen Xers, influenced by a mix of analog and digital experiences, have become bold and unapologetic in expressing their thoughts. We explore the cultural shifts, including the impact of MTV, that have empowered us to find community and support in ways previous generations couldn't have imagined.
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This week I welcome back humor writer and memoirist Gila Pfeffer, the author of "Nearly Departed: Adventures in Loss, Cancer, and Other Inconveniences."
Gila shares her journey from losing her parents to cancer, discovering she carried the BRCA1 gene, and undergoing a preventative double mastectomy that turned out to be life-saving. Through humor and resilience, Gila tells me how she uses her experiences to advocate for breast cancer awareness and prevention. She also opens up about the role of her Orthodox Jewish faith in her life and writing, offering listeners a unique perspective on community and ritual.
We explore the importance of self-advocacy, the power of knowledge, and how small acts of courage can lead to significant personal growth.
✍️ Episode References
Gila Pfeffer
https://www.instagram.com/gilapfeffer
Link to Book:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=nearly+departed+adventures+in+loss%2C+cancer%2C+and+other+inconveniences&crid=446B9Z83KETT&sprefix=nearly+departed%2Caps%2C83&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_3_15
Sharsheret
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Welcome to Season Six!
Jessica Kidwell dives into the discomfort of tough topics and how they can lead to personal growth and deeper connections. After a break, Jessica is back with a fresh energy and a new theme for season six: courage. With a hiatus filled with taking time to read fiction and embracing small acts of bravery to planning new episodes, she's ready to explore what courage means in different situations.
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Well, WeSTAT community, we did it. Today marks the completion of season five, the season of evolution, the first season on my own. And I thought we should take a look back to see all that has happened this season.
After 30 episodes, what worked? What didn't? I'll tell you what I think, and maybe you can let me know if you agree or want to add to the list!
Plus we re-visit what several guests said about what evolution means to them.
It's a great trip down memory lane and a celebration of another season of We Should Talk About That!
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Not following the expected path isn't necessarily a recipe for success in a city like Washington, D.C., but that is exactly what my guest this week, Deesha Dyer, did. At the age of 31, working full time and in community college part time, she took a chance on herself and applied for a White House internship in the Obama administration. And thank goodness she did, because she quickly found herself zipping up the ranks until she became the White House social secretary, where she worked until 2017.
There's a lot we should talk about with Deesha. From imposter syndrome to embracing who you are even if it makes other people uncomfortable, we cover a wide range of topics. And I'm all the better for it!
About my guest:
Deesha Dyer is an award-winning strategist, on-the-ground community organizer, and executive operations expert. She served as the White House social secretary during the Obama administration and is currently the founder and CEO of social impact agency, Hook & Fasten. She curated and instructed a study course called Imposter to Impact at the Harvard Kennedy School. Deesha’s entertaining and engaging style of storytelling allows her to inspire audiences around the world. She co-founded and operates organization, beGirl.world Global Scholars, which tackles the racial disparity in study abroad. Her book, Undiplomatic: How My Attitude Created the Best Kind of Trouble, can be found here
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Mother's Day was yesterday, so to celebrate, I gave myself the weekend off! There's no new interview content for you today, BUT I do have a story for you.
For those who know me personally, you'll already know this story, but for the rest of you, enjoy this personal journey to free my trapped dry cleaning.
More interviews will resume next week, but remember, season five will soon come to a close: 6/3/24
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In January I participated in a women's healing retreat with the Mystic Chics. a healing group of 3 modern medicine women, 2 sisters and an aunt, who are passionate about awakening feminine power using multiple modalities of healing via energy, music, sound, movement and more. I'm not a total "woo" person, but I'm also not a total cynic. Let's say I fall somewhere in between-we'll call it curious. So I asked one of the Chics, Audrey Herrick, to come on the show to talk about my experience and energy healing as a whole.
Audrey Herrick is 1/3 of The Mystic Chics, a healing group of 3 modern medicine women, 2 sisters and an aunt, who are passionate about awakening feminine power using multiple modalities of healing via energy, music, sound, movement and more. They are here for the woman who is ready to see herself as the spiritually inspired creator she is and wants to step forward using the power of her own energy. They resonate with the woman who is curious as well as serious about her evolution and who is unafraid of her own Truth as well as the potential power she holds within her to create a better Earth.
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Have you heard of synesthesia?
It is when your brain routes sensory information through multiple unrelated senses, causing you to experience more than one sense simultaneously. Some examples include tasting words or linking colors to numbers and letters.
My guest this week, Emily Barth Isler, is an author of essays and children's books, including the middle grade novels AfterMath and The Color of Sound, which was published March 5, 2024. The Color of Sound features a character who, like Emily, has synesthesia. It has received starred reviews from both Publishers Weekly and the School Library Journal.
I first met Emily on my other podcast, Neuroversity, to talk about her first book, AfterMath, which is an award-winning middle grade novel about grief, resilience, friendship, math, and mime. Emily and I quickly realized that there were so many things we should talk about that I promised to get her on WeSTAT and the release of her new book seemed like the perfect fit.
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I have a few things we should talk about this week!
- Do you think I need a permanent co-host?
- Why is it so hard to get people to talk on the show?
- Is Taylor Swift causing friendships to end?
- Mahjong
It's a random assortment. It's a monologue. I promised I wouldn't do any monologues. So what should I do about that?
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Did you know that the six most common complaints about the sound of a women's voice are:
- Their voice is too high
- They sound like children
- They don't sound authoritative enough
- They have vocal fry
- They use too much upspeak
- Their voice is too low
For a woman who wants to speak up publicly, it can start to feel like we are damned if we do, and damned if we don't.
This week I had the opportunity to talk to Christine Adam, an international voice, accent and communication skills coach, about why women's voices are more critically received when they speak up in public. It was a fascinating AND frustrating conversation.
I hope you'll listen!
Guest Bio:
Christine Adam is an international voice, accent and communication skills coach. She works with clients on vocal presence, power, range and expressivity, body language in communication, compassionate listening and managing performance anxiety. Her clients range from actors to business professionals, activists, teachers and anyone who is curious about becoming a more effective and empowered communicator. Through her company, Voice what Matters, Christine offers private coaching programs, bespoke workshops and digital courses, as well as a podcast and a YouTube channel. Christine has an MFA in Voice Studies from the Royal Central School of Drama in London. She is a certified Fitzmaurice Voicework(r) teacher and Organic Intelligence(r) coach. She is also a States-based Communication coach for RADA Business, based in London.
Resources Cited:
Mary Beard Article "The Long Tradition of Women Being Told to Shut Up"
Selena Simmons-Duffin "Talking While Female"
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I am a proud voting American. From local, national, primary, or general, I never miss my opportunity to participate in my civic duty and cherished right to vote. I love the process of going to my polling precinct and casting my ballot. I slap that sticker on my chest and walk around all day with pride, knowing that instead of choosing to do nothing, I chose to vote. And I believe, that my vote is counted. It may not win, but it is always counted.
But I am aware that I may be in the minority who believes that my vote is counted.
In January 2024, Data for Progress found that 43% of likely voters are either not confident at all or only a little confident in the security of elections. That percentage rises to 50% if you only look at registered Independents and rises to 69% if you only look at registered Republicans.
That is a lot of Americans who do not trust the security of our elections!
I wanted to learn more about the election process. To see if there is a reason to not trust the system, or to see if this growing mistrust is fueled by misinformation.
My guest this week is Tate Fall, Director of Elections for Cobb County Georgia. She guides me through the history and process of administering elections, shares how much elections have changed through the years, and dispels some of the most common myths about voter fraud. This is a conversation you are not going to want to miss.
Tate Fall currently serves as the Director of Elections for Cobb County. She has previously served as the Deputy Director of Elections for Arlington County, VA, a Communications Specialist for the United States Election Assistance Commission (EAC), and as a Voting Rights Advocate for Alabama Disabilities Advocacy Program. Tate has her B.S. in Rehabilitation and Disability Studies, a Master of Public Administration and a Graduate Certificate in Election Administration all from Auburn University.
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We should talk about Tik Tok.
As a Gen X-er, I cling to my Facebook and I feel fancy that I consistently use Instagram. But if I'm being honest, I know that this makes me basically an elderly user of social media apps. YouTube and Tik Tok are the social media apps where Gen Z and Gen Alpha are spending the majority of their time. So, what's an "Insta-Grandma" to do to try and stay au courant on the trends?
Enter my guest, Pamela Wurst Vetrini.
Pamela is a content creator, content curator, and social media consultant. Vetrini gained a following of over 150,000 followers by translating tik tok trends for an elder millennial audience. After working in marketing and PR in publishing in NYC, she decided to focus on learning how to use social media during her time as a stay at home mom. Vetrini's greatest viral success came in the summer of 2023 when she curated a reality tv "season" of private chefs in the Hamptons from existing tik tok content.
https://www.instagram.com/pamelawurstvetrini/
https://www.tiktok.com/@pamelawurstvetrini
Join us for a discussion on why Tik Tok isn't evil, and what has been trending on the app for March 2024.
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Join Jessica and her pop culture guest of the week, Joey Klei, as they discuss the pop culture topics that are front of mind for them.
- Where is Princess Catherine? ***Big correction!! Jessica says MULTIPLE times that the timeline starts 12/23/23, but it really was 12/28/23. In her excitement, she got the date wrong, a lot. This is why she is not running for President.
- Joey reviews the Apple Vision Pro glasses
- We should talk about the Oscars
Do YOU want to be a part of the next pop culture segment? Send me a message at info@westatpod.com and let me know what you think we should talk about! You might just be my next pop culture aficionado called upon!
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"If we understand there is a biblical basis, there is a theological basis for understanding that transgender people and gender expansive people are created in the image of God - just like all people- then it makes it easier to .... understand we don't have to choose between our faith and the people we love."
Jamie Bruesehoff is an award-winning LGBTQ+ advocate, nationally known speaker, and mother of three, including a transgender child. She also has a master's degree from The Lutheran Theological Seminary-Gettysburg and is the wife of a Lutheran pastor. She has twenty years of experience working with youth and adults in and outside of the church, she strives to create a world where LGBTQ+ young people thrive. Her book, "Raising Kids Beyond the Binary: Celebrating God's Transgender and Gender-Diverse Children" came out in September 2023.
Join us for a wide ranging conversation about faith, parenting, gender diversity, supporting the experience of a transgender person, and expanding our understanding about what gender means to each of us.
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“I’ve personally witnessed how Chelsey changes the lives of teenage girls for the better. This book is exactly what we all need right now, for our families and for our future voices in the world."
—Laura Dern, Academy Award-winning actress and New York Times bestselling author of Honey, Baby, Mine
Teenage girls have a lot of assumptions made about them, and they’re not very positive. Things like, they’re dramatic, they’re mean, they’re overly emotional, and they don’t know really know what they want or who they want to be.
Chelsey Goodan, the author of "UNDERESTIMATED: The Wisdom and Power of Teenage Girls", is on a mission to dispel these assumptions and show us why we actually have a lot to learn from teenage girls.
About my guest:
Chelsey Goodan has spent 16 years working as an academic tutor and also volunteering her time to mentor teenage girls. Chelsey now speaks regularly to audiences and conducts workshops on gender justice, and revealing how teenage girls can teach us all how to create more heartfelt connections and impactful change.
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Resources cited:A Call to Men- The Next Generation of Manhood Peggy Orenstein's "Girls and Sex: Navigating the Complicated New Landscape"
https://www.peggyorenstein.com/main-st
Dr. Emily Morse's "Smart Sex: How to Boost Your Sex IQ and Own Your Pleasure"
https://www.harpercollins.com/products/smart-sex-emily-morse?variant=40992969556002
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We Should Talk About That is going on a break for a couple of weeks for a little refresh and re-tooling. But before I go, I want to take a minute to honor a man who has meant so very much to me, my father in law, Vernard Charles Kidwell, Jr.
Vern passed away February 4th, 2024 at the ripe age of 98 and I am just back from a weekend of honoring him and his incredible life.
A WWII veteran and celebrated jazz trumpet player, Vern lived many chapters and I wanted to do my small part in honoring and remembering him by documenting his memory in my little podcast, or as he would always refer to it, my "television show". I sure did love this man and I invite you to spend 15 minutes with me to honor him as well.
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This week I welcome Jess Buchanan back on the show to talk about the release of her second anthology series, Deserts to Mountaintops: Choosing Our Healing Through Radical Self Acceptance. It was so great to catch up on what's been happening in her world and to discuss this project.
In this episode:
- Find out why this topic was chosen for the anthology series
- Hear the process of putting an anthology project together with 18 other authors
- Talk about the fear that keeps women from telling their stories
- Discuss why that fear must be faced and MORE stories need to be shared
This week's guest:
Jessica Buchanan is a Teacher, Author, Humanitarian, Speaker, Founder, and Survivor.
In her NYT Bestselling memoir Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six, Jessica details her experience as she was abducted at gunpoint and held for ransom by a group of Somali pirates for 93 days. Forced to live outdoors in deplorable conditions, starved, and terrorized by more than two dozen gangsters, Jessica’s health steadily deteriorated until, by order of President Obama, she was rescued by the elite SEAL Team VI on January 25, 2012.
Jessica is now a highly sought-after inspirational speaker, TEDx Speaker, and is also the founder of Soul Speak Press. Her latest book is an anthology titled “Deserts to Mountaintops: Choosing Our Healing Through Radical Self Acceptance.” She is married to a native Swede, has two children, and now resides in the DC Metro area.
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In September 2017, after years of physical abuse and sexual torture, Nicole "Nikki" Addimando fatally shot her abusive partner in self-defense. And in February 2020, Nicole was sentenced to 19 years to life in prison for killing the perpetrator of her abuse, where she became part of the 97% of women in prison nationwide who have experienced physical or sexual abuse.
Long time listeners of WeSTAT know that I have been personally following this case very closely. In 2021, I had the opportunity to focus on Nikki’s case in two episodes: One with Rebecca and Wendy, two representatives of the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee, as well as with journalist Justine van der Leun who partnered with Lemonada media and Spiegel and Grau to release a six part award winning podcast about Nikki’s case called “Believe Her” .
Through all of my following of this case, one person’s name comes up over and over, and that is Nikki’s sister, Michelle Horton. Since Nikki’s arrest in 2017, Michelle has been caring for Nikki’s two children, Ben and Faith, quarterbacking her defense strategy and trying to figure out how to support Nikki, herself, and so many others that have been devastated by these events. However, I have never had the opportunity to meet or talk with Michelle, until today.
Michelle Horton is a passionate writer and advocate based in New York's Hudson Valley. As the caregiver for Nikki Addimando's children, and a crucial figure in Nikki's defense strategy, Michelle has emerged as a fierce advocate for survivors of domestic violence. Her forthcoming memoir, "Dear Sister," provides an intimate and eye-opening look at the challenges faced by survivors within the criminal justice system. Through her unwavering commitment and personal experiences, Michelle offers a compelling voice in advocating for the rights of survivors and shedding light on the pervasive issue of domestic violence.
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Survived and Punished
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The WeSTAT community was polled and the results were unanimous, so, welcome to the first WeSTAT episode dedicated entirely to pop culture!
In what I hope is the first of a re-occurring series, Jessica is joined by one of her go to pop culture aficionados IRL, Amanda Pedigo. But this isn't just two girlfriends having a chat, Amanda really has her finger on the pulse of all things pop culture.
This week we cover:
- The Golden Globes
- Joy Koy: WTH happened?
- Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, and Keleigh Teller: WTH were they talking about?
- Timothy Chalamet and Kylie Jenner: Fan or no?
- Taylor and Travis AKA "Tayvis Swelce": Fan or no?
- Saltburn: WTH was THAT?
Do YOU want to be a part of the next pop culture segment? Send me a message at info@westatpod.com and let me know what you think we should talk about! You might just be my next pop culture aficionado called upon!
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When women have good information, they make good choices. - Dr. Lauren Streicher
Discover the surprising benefits of cannabis for menopause symptoms and beyond. Listen in as Ellen Scanlon shares her insights on using CBD and THC to alleviate pain, improve sleep, and support overall well-being. But what happens when the legal market for cannabis doesn't provide the support women need? Tune in to find out.
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Discover how cannabis benefits menopause symptoms for relief.
- Improve your sleep with the power of cannabis.
- Explore the benefits of low-dose cannabis beverages.
- Find out how CBD-infused lubes provide pain relief.
- Learn about menopause education and the role of cannabis.
My special guest is Ellen Scanlon
As the host of How to Do the Pot, you’ll find Ellen behind the mic, sharing stories about diverse, modern women and their varied experiences with cannabis, recommending the essential strains for women, and sharing the latest research on the mental and physical benefits of the cannabis plant. Her genuine interest in shedding light on important topics is evident in her thought-provoking series, "Menopause 101." But what makes this former investment professional and health advocate jump out of bed every morning is her overarching mission to empower women to make more informed choices about their health and well-being. Within Ellen’s vision of creating the best podcast for women, she offers a safe and welcoming space to learn more about cannabis. Having released over 200 episodes on everything from sleep to sex, as well as a popular newsletter that reaches tens of thousands of loyal readers, it’s clear that Ellen’s work is striking a chord with the many women curious about cannabis.
Resources:
How to do the Pot Podcast
https://dothepot.com/podcast-series/menopause-101/
Dr. Lauren Streicher Podcast
https://www.drstreicher.com/podcast
New York Times Article:
Menopause is Having a Moment
NAMS (North American Menopause Society)
https://menopause.org/
https://nationalmenopausefoundation.org/
WeSTAT Interview with Claire Gill, Founder of The National Menopause Foundation
lhttps://www.westatpod.com/episodes/episode/4af1867f/collaborating-with-menopause-and-feeling-at-the-top-of-your-game-with-national-menopause-foundation-founder-claire-gill
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The business case for diversity is so strong, and unless we create a safe space for everyone to have a conversation, we can't move it forward. - Kori Reed
Uncover the silent majority's role in gender equity as Kori Reed challenges men in the workplace to understand, support, and engage in the conversation.
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Explore men's perspectives on gender equity for a fresh understanding of workplace dynamics.
- Understand the difference between equality and equity to navigate fairness in the workplace effectively.
- Uncover the challenges of including men in conversations about gender equity for a more inclusive work environment.
- Discover the significance of the Equal Rights Amendment ratification in shaping workplace equality.
My special guest is Kori Reed
Kori Reed, the author of "Men in the Middle: Conversations to Gain Momentum with Gender Equity's Silent Majority," brings over 25 years of experience working in Fortune 500 companies, including Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company, PepsiCo, and Kanaq Rubrands. Her background in corporate America has equipped her with a unique perspective on gender equity in the workplace, making her a valuable voice in the conversation. With a passion for unearthing conversations that people are hesitant to have about gender equity, Kori's curiosity and dedication to understanding the nuances of gender equality versus equity have made her a respected figure in this field. Her book and insights shed light on the experiences and perspectives of men in leadership positions, contributing to increased awareness and empathy towards gender equity issues.
https://www.korireed.com/
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If you are in medical school in this country right now, it can be challenging to choose to be trained to provide safe abortions. It's scary out there. The laws are confusing. The medical profession is vast. Why choose abortion care? And I would just say anyone who has made that choice and who is seeking out a seasoned doctor who's done these procedures for longer than I've been alive to learn their craft, those are the heroes that we need more of. - Gloria Riviera
If you're feeling frustrated by the backslide in reproductive rights, then you are not alone! Despite efforts to raise awareness and advocate for change, you may be seeing restrictive laws being passed and limited access to abortion care happening all over the country. Your passion for reproductive justice may be met with resistance and backlash, leaving you feeling disheartened. But remember, your voice and actions are vital in the fight for reproductive rights, and there are others standing with you in this important battle.
My special guest is Gloria Riviera, co-host of the fantastic podcast The Defenders, which she co-host with Samantha Bee. In The Defenders, Gloria and Sam showcase their dedication to shedding light on the lengths women go to access safe reproductive care and the unsung heroes working behind the scenes to support them.
Gloria Riviera is a highly experienced correspondent and producer with a 20-year tenure at ABC News. Her extensive coverage of breaking investigative and feature stories for the network's flagship broadcasts and social media platforms, including Good Morning America, World News Tonight, Nightline, and ABC News Radio, has garnered her numerous awards, such as an Emmy and Alfred DuPont Award for her 911 coverage. With a background in covering reproductive health care and abortion rights, Gloria brings a wealth of knowledge to the conversation about the complexities of the post-Roe world.
In this episode, we:
- Unveil the layers of the abortion debate and reproductive rights.
- Navigate the complexities within the pro-choice movement.
- Explore the intersections of religion and abortion, and politics and abortion.
- Address the challenges of reclaiming language and why "abortion" needs to said more often and loudly.
- Share ways to empower all people to get involved in the fight for reproductive justice.
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Normalizing conversations about our bodies and sexuality can lead to healthier relationships and a sense of empowerment. - Gopi Pillai
I am thrilled to have Gopi Pillai join me this week as WeSTAT's very first guest co-host! And together, we are wondering, are you aware of how your body moves and holds itself? Join us as we dive into the importance of body awareness and why we should definitely be talking about our vaginas a lot more.
We also cover a seldom-discussed topic: vaginismus in teenagers. And we recount a journey of one of us seeking help for her daughter diagnosed with this condition. We underscore the essential role a pelvic health physical therapist can play and discuss the rising acknowledgment of this specialty thanks to social media.
Finally, we probe into the declining rates of sexual activity among younger generations. With an open and honest tone, we weigh in on the potential factors at play - from anxiety and depression to excessive device usage and sleep deprivation. We share real-life stories of patients overcoming sexual pain, shedding light on the transformative impact on their relationships. As we wrap up the episode, we begin discussing our Thanksgiving plans, bringing a light-hearted conclusion to our conversation. Don’t miss out on this insightful and deeply personal dialogue - it's a mix of invaluable knowledge and heartening personal stories.
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Have you ever doubted your own physical abilities? Believed that you were simply not cut out for sports or fitness? Well, let me share a story that will challenge your perceptions. Meet Alyssa, a woman who thought she lacked natural athletic talent, only to discover an unexpected twist that changed her life forever. This twist led her down a path of self-discovery, strength training, and ultimately, the realization that our bodies are capable of so much more than we could ever imagine. Curious to know what happened next? Keep listening, because this story is bound to inspire and leave you with a burning desire to unleash your own hidden strength.
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Gain the mental and physical empowerment you've been seeking through strength training.
- Overcome intimidation and become confident in your strength training journey.
- Learn how to get started with strength training and build a personalized routine that works for you.
- Discover the benefits of bodyweight exercises and how they can help you build strength.
- Explore the mindset and community surrounding strength training competitions and how they can enhance your fitness journey.
My special guest is Alyssa Ages
Alyssa Ages is a journalist and fitness expert whose work has appeared in GQ, Self, Men's Health, Parents, and other publications. She is currently the fitness columnist for The Globe and Mail, Canada's preeminent daily newspaper. With a background in competitive strength training and endurance sports, Alyssa brings a unique perspective to the world of fitness. Her journey from self-doubt to discovering her true physical capabilities has inspired many, and her book Secrets of Giants delves into the true meaning of strength. Alyssa's passion for pushing boundaries and challenging herself is evident in her approach to fitness. As a guest on "We Should Talk About That," she shares her insights and experiences, offering valuable knowledge and motivation for beginners looking to start their own strength training journey.
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Happy Thanksgiving!
This week I'm doing a cross promotion with my other podcast, Neuroversity and featuring a very special episode.
Join me as I have a conversation with the most important autistic voice you will ever hear on this podcast, my daughter Grace.
This is not an inspirational story.
This is not a sad story.
This is Grace's story.
How she remembers finding out she's autistic.
How she sees herself as a neurodivergent teenager. How she feels about this podcast, and what she is looking forward to in her future.
One story.
One autistic experience.
And I've never been more proud to put it out into the world. Because one story can change everything. Just like she has forever changed me.
About the Guest:
Grace Kidwell is a 15 year old freshman from Alexandria, VA. She is a member of her school dance team, loves to read, wishes she could travel more, and adores her dog Derby.
Follow Neuroversity for more content focused on elevating neurodivergent voices and experiences.
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This episode briefly discusses suicide. If you or anyone you know needs support, *Help is available 24 hours a day at the suicide and crisis lifeline by dialing 988https://988lifeline.org/
Join journalist and professor Chris Moody as he shares his alarming findings on sextortion scams that are victimizing thousands of teenage boys. Chris does an exceptional job illuminating the grim reality of these scams, the platforms they're most prevalent on, and how governments are responding. Most importantly, he underscores the urgent need for open dialogues with our children to help them navigate through this potential minefield.
This conversation is not only illuminating but also an urgent call to action for all parents and guardians to ensure the safety of their children in the digital world.
About Chris Moody:
Chris Moody is a freelance writer for The Washington Post and a lecturer in journalism and media at Appalachian State University in Boone, North Carolina. He is a former senior political reporter for CNN. His work has appeared in The New York Times, Outside, The New Republic and more.
Resources from the episode:
Washington Post Article by Chris Moody
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children Cyber Tip Line
Snap Research About Gen Z and Extortion
"Take it Down" Assistance
Thorn
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This episode of We Should Talk About That focuses on an important but difficult topic - suicide prevention and awareness.
*Help is available 24 hours a day at the suicide and crisis lifeline by dialing 988https://988lifeline.org/
Jessica Kidwell interviews writer ASA Merritt about his audio fiction story, "Six Sermons", which explores a church community's response to their pastor's suicide.
They have a thoughtful discussion about the complex reasons behind suicide, the desire to make sense of it, and the role that fiction portrayed sensitively can play in creating space for honest conversations. Through personal stories and insights from experts, they model openness, compassion and harm reduction strategies for listeners who may be struggling.
Resources for support:
Help is available 24 hours a day at the suicide and crisis lifeline by dialing 988https://988lifeline.org/
About Asa Merritt:
A former international reporter for NPR, VICE Sports, The Guardian, and ESPN’s “30 for 30” podcast, Asa brings a compassionate documentary eye to ambitious fictional projects. His one-woman play about mass movements, True Believer, had a sold-out run in New York City. To research that piece, Asa traveled to Cairo to meet with underground performers who helped ignite the Arab Spring. For his new Audible original podcast Six Sermons, starring Oscar nominee Stephanie Hsu (Everything Everywhere All At Once), Asa spent a month embedded with a team of pastors at a Lutheran church in Cincinnati, OH. Six Sermons is dedicated to the actor and musician Caz Liske, who died by suicide in Moscow in 2017. Asa lives with his family in Mexico City.
Listen to "Six Sermons" here
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Would you like to age gracefully and understand the influences that societal judgment and cultural pressures have on beauty and cosmetics?
In this episode of "We Should Talk About That," host Jessica Kidwell engages in a conversation about anti-aging and aging gracefully with Dr. Carolyn Chang, an aesthetic plastic surgeon and vice chairman of plastic surgery at California Pacific Medical Center. Dr. Chang shares her expertise and educates listeners on fighting the natural signs of aging while emphasizing the importance of natural results. The discussion also touches on the concept of anti-anti-aging. Tune in to gain insights and explore the possibilities of embracing the aging process.
More About Dr. Carolyn Change:
Dr. Carolyn Chang is a San Francisco aesthetic plastic surgeon and Vice Chairman of plastic surgery at California Pacific Medical Center. She is certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery, is a member of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons, the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery, and is a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons. She is also a member of the Communications Committee for the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery. Dr. Chang graduated with a Bachelor of Science with honors from Stanford University and received the Deans Award for Excellence in Clinical Medicine at Stanford University Medical School. She did her general surgery and plastic surgery training at Stanford University Medical Center. She completed an additional advanced surgical fellowship at New York University, and a second year of further specialization under the guidance of Dr. John Q. Owsley, one of the pioneers of the modern SMAS facelift. Dr Chang is an invited lecturer both locally and nationally on a wide range of topics in the field of aesthetic surgery. She is a long-time resident of the Bay Area and is committed to the betterment of her community through her active philanthropic involvement and as a patron of the arts. Dr. Chang lives in San Francisco with her husband Patrick and their children, James and Jemma.
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carolynchangmd/
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-chang-83106526/
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Feeling overwhelmed at the prospect of preparing your children for college applications? Join me and my guest, early career development expert Ana Homayoun, as we navigate this daunting journey. I share my own struggle with the pressure, and Ana provides me with invaluable insight and perspective on the fallacy of "finish lines".
With Ana's guidance, we explore the importance of executive functioning skills, systems, connections, perspective, and acceptance in shaping our definition.
It's time to challenge ourselves to redefine success beyond the traditional concept of grades and college admissions.
Find out more about my guest, Ana Homayoun:
https://anahomayoun.com/
https://anahomayoun.com/erasing-the-finish-line/
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The key to living a legendary life is to strive to be more like Abe Lincoln. At least, that is what my guest this week, Jonathan Shapiro, says is the key. Join us for a conversation about the principles of the great Abraham Lincoln, and how following seven steps can help us all lead a more extraordinary life.
We talk about stoicism, storytelling, humor, river raft rides, the heart of American culture, and the importance of love. All of which lead us to look at how Abraham Lincoln, perhaps our greatest President of all time, built a blueprint that might save the soul of America.
Jonathan Shapiro has written and produced some of television’s most iconic legal dramas, including HBO’s The Undoing, Amazon Prime’s Goliath, and NBC Peacock’s The Calling. An Emmy and Humanitas Award-winner, Shapiro’s other television credits include Peacock’s Mr. Mercedes, based on the Stephen King novels, NBC’s series The Blacklist, FOX’s Justice, NBC’s Life, and the ABC series Boston Legal, The Practice, and Big Sky. His first play, Sisters in Law, premiered in 2019. He is the author of three books, including the novel Deadly Force (2015), and the memoir Lawyers, Liars, and the Art of Storytelling (2014). He is currently an adjunct law professor at the UCLA School of Law. Prior to becoming a writer, Shapiro practiced law for 12 years in the U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division, as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California, and of counsel at Kirkland & Ellis. A graduate of the University of California Berkeley School of Law, he earned his undergraduate and graduate degrees in history from Harvard University and was a Rhodes Scholar at Oriel College, Oxford University.
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How to Be Abe Lincoln: Seven Steps to Leading a Legendary Life
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Did you know:
- 1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted while in college or graduate school
- 6% of men will be sexually assaulted while in college or graduate school
- 90% of sexual assaults on college campuses go unreported.
- More than 50% of college sexual assaults occur in either August, September, October, or November. This is called the "Red Zone"
In the latest episode, I have a deeply personal and tough discussion with my brave guest, Anne, who unveils her own experience of sexual assault in college. The goal is to shed light on the emotional aftermath of such incidents, often unspoken, which includes anxiety, depression, and PTSD.
Also joining in the conversation is private investigator, Sally Tierney. Sally aided Anne in discovering the identity of her attacker and has helped many other clients gain control of their experiences.
This is a difficult, but necessary conversation and I hope you will join us.
This is not just an episode, but a testament to the resilience of survivors and the strength of those who stand with them.
Resources cited throughout the episode:
https://knowyourix.org/
https://www.rainn.org/
https://www.clearpathforwardpi.com/
https://helpingsurvivors.org/resources/
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Do you ever feel overwhelmed by the subject of climate change? Jessica does.
With weather events and natural disasters getting more severe and seeming to creep closer and closer to her own backyard, Jessica feels overwhelmed, to the point of paralysis, by what one person could possibly do to effect change.
Enter Anya Kamenetz, who writes the newsletter The Golden Hour about thriving, and raising thriving kids, on a changing planet. She covered education for many years including for NPR, where she co-created the podcast Life Kit: Parenting. Her 5th book is The Stolen Year: How Covid Changed Children’s Lives, And Where We Go Now. Kamenetz is currently an advisor to the Aspen Institute and the Climate Mental Health Network, working on new initiatives at the intersection of children and climate change.
Join Jessica and Anya as they candidly address the politicization of climate change, its isolating consequences, and the urgent call to recognize it as a human issue, not just an environmental one. Anya shines a light on our potential to be part of the solution, turning fear into action. And may have even helped Jessica feel a little less paralyzed and a lot more purpose filled.
Important Links from this episode:
Anya's Newsletter
https://thegoldenhour.substack.com/
More Information on Joanna Macy
https://www.joannamacy.net/main
All We Can Save Project
https://www.allwecansave.earth/
Climate Mental Health Network
https://www.climatementalhealth.net/
Climate Mobilization
https://www.theclimatemobilization.org/
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Join Jessica Kidwell as she embraces the messy, exciting, and continuous process of growth in the new season of "We Should Talk About That". She'll be sharing her own experiences and thoughts on starting this fresh chapter, her comfort in the transitional phases, and her intrigue with evolution - a process that beautifully mirrors the metamorphosis of the podcast, our lives, and the world at large.
Here's a promise - this podcast is going to be interactive! The latter half of the episode is a cordial invitation for all of you to be part of the dialogue. So, buckle up and get ready to ignite conversations, build connections, and explore a myriad of riveting subjects in this evolving journey of our podcast. Let's get talking, shall we?
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It's been a couple weeks since WeSTAT said "goodbye" to Jess Buchanan so Jessica Kidwell thought it might be time to talk about what could be next for We Should Talk About That.
Bottom line up front: She needs YOU!
You can be an integral part of shaping what's next for WeSTAT, so listen in and see how you can help!
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When Jess and Jess started this podcast in January 2020, there were a lot of unknowns. They had no idea how the podcast world would receive them, they had no idea that a global pandemic would shut down their studio recordings and they would have to learn how to podcast remotely, they had no idea how many interesting people they would get to interview, and they had no idea how long WeSTAT would go on.
As this episode brings Season Four to a close, it also brings Jess B's part as a co-host to We Should Talk About That to a close, as well. Jess and Jess felt it necessary to honor the spirit of WeSTAT, the work they have done in building the show, and each other, by holding space for an authentic conversation, in studio, for the first time in a long time, and the last as co-hosts.
Endings are excruciating, but sometimes, they are necessary for growth- The Two Jess(es) use this time to get vulnerable about what they mean to each other, what the show has meant for them, and where they are headed in the future.
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Jess and Jess have dedicated multiple episodes to the sacred tradition of Mother's Day, but what about the dads? A quick check in on what each of The Two Jess(es) are doing to celebrate the men in their lives!
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You heard them first with Glennon and Abby, but NOW, Jess and Jess get a chance to sit down and chat all things S-E-X with the adorable and incredibly knowledgeable "sexpert couple" Vanessa and Xander Marin! The authors of SEX TALKS: The 5 Conversations That Will Transform Your Love Life come on the show to talk about why it's so hard for couples to talk to each other about sex, and that most sex problems between couples usually boil down to something much less complicated than drive or compatibility. It's communication that is key.
JessB is uncomfortable talking about sex on air, and JessK is super comfy talking about all things between the sheets. From fairy tale sex lives- what we most often see on television on repeat, to what "should" our sex lives look like, Vanessa and Xander challenge Jess and Jess to ponder what great sex actually means to them- and what they want in the bedroom.
Whether sex is the last thing you think about or it's on the forefront of your relationship struggles- you need to listen to this episode, and even more, you need to go and get the book!
About the authors:
Vanessa Marin is a licensed psychotherapist specializing in sex therapy. She has bachelor’s degrees in human sexuality and sociology from Brown University and a master’s degree in counseling psychology. She has written for The New York Times, Allure, and Lifehacker, and has been featured many times in major publications like Oprah Daily, Harper’s Bazaar, Vogue, and Real Simple.
Xander Marin is a regular dude who left a cushy career in tech once he realized it was more fun to talk about sex with his wife all day. He’s here to show you that you don’t need a graduate degree or a license to have extraordinary communication skills—you just need to have an open mind and willingness!
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From tiktok posts to pin locations, our kids every action is being monitored, recorded and available for the world to see. We employ apps to check their text messages and create fake social media accounts to see what they are doing and how they are doing it- our kids no longer have any privacy. For some of us, who are unwilling to give in to the social pressures of allowing our children to navigate these systems too early, we then have to deal with the impact of exclusion for our children in the name of "protecting them." It's a complicated issue and one that feels like "no man's land" even still. We are parenting as AI takes over, and TikTok rules the world- but how do we keep our children safe and allow them to maintain some autonomy?
It's tough, admits author Devorah Heitner, PhD, but she does have some really good suggestions, based on the research from both of her books, Growing Up in Public and Screenwise.
Jess and Jess have a million questions for Devorah, so many, that she has been invited back for a second interview! But this one is definitely informative and food for thought.
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JessK and JessB are taking the day off- but they do have a few reflections to share regarding patriotism, America, and the distinction between patriotism and politics. And this is just the intro! The rest of this episode shares a highlight interview with the incredibly intelligent and open, Cody Keenan who rose from a campaign intern in his hometown to become the chief speechwriter at the White House and Barack Obama’s post-presidential collaborator. We are sharing this conversation again, in celebration of Memorial Day, to reflect, in particular, on the this conversation regarding the ten days in June of 2015, following the mass murder of nine Black worshipers in a Charleston, South Carolina by a white supremacist. This conversation centers around the days that followed America – and its first Black president – and the profound reckoning with race and the legacy of the Confederate flag, while the families of the victims perform an extraordinary act of grace.
In this episode, Cody shares his front seat reflections on what has always meant to craft and collaborate on work with President Obama, and how it has shaped how he sees himself, his work, and his country.
A different conversation, but authentic and curious, Jess and Jess are able to reminisce some incredible "Glory Days" with the person who helped pen them.
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Born and raised in Chicago, Cody Keenan rose from a campaign intern in his
hometown to become chief speechwriter at the White House and Barack Obama’s
post-presidential collaborator. A sought-after expert on politics, messaging, and
current affairs, he is now a partner at leading speechwriting firm Fenway
Strategies and teaches a popular course on political speechwriting to
undergraduates at his alma mater Northwestern University. Cody lives in New
York City with his wife Kristen and their baby daughter Grace.
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How many of you out there are a member of the "Buy Nothing" groups? JessK has some experiences with the endeavor that she would like to discuss, and fortunately, she found freelance journalist, Sonia Weiser to have the conversation with!
What ARE these groups for? Because, according to Sonia, they are more than just a friendly little group where you can offload your extra junk and feel good about helping out the planet. Why does the work of these groups inevitably fall on the shoulders of women, further contributing to the unpaid labor that cripples the female population.
This conversation also touches on some of Sonia's work as a freelancer and mental health.
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We've all been there- you see your Facebook messenger app light up and swipe up only to see a direct message from someone you haven't thought about since 5th grade...inevitably, it starts out "Hey Hun! I love seeing....." followed by a veiled question about your skincare routine, your weight loss goals, or hell, even your leggings!
Emily Lynn Paulson is here to tell her own personal story as a "Hey Hunner" that quickly rose to the top of the pyramid- and she divulges all the mortifying truths that hold up those pyramids that make up the multilevel marketing world.
This episode is definitely going to ruffle some feathers- and maybe even lose some listeners...but Jess and Jess are having the conversation anyway.
Meet Emily:
Emily Lynn Paulson is the author of Highlight Real: Finding Honesty and Recovery Beyond the Filtered Life, and the forthcoming Hey, Hun: Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing (May 2023). She has given two powerful TEDx talks, both challenging the status quo of parenting, alcohol use, and feminism as we know it. Paulson has also been featured in major publications such as the Today Show, New York Times, Washington Post, The Seattle Times, Chicago Tribune, Next Question with Katie Couric, and the Tamron Hall Show. She resides in Central Oregon with her husband and their five children.
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What IS medical gaslighting? Have you ever been forced to play "Doctor Hot Potato"? You know, when you go to your doctor and have a complaint about your body, but your doctor tells you its all in your head and passes you off to someone else? Yeah that.
Or maybe you are being "comorted out of care"- assured there really IS nothing wrong (when there really is!) and before you know it you have been manipulated into gaslighting yourself.
Ilana Jacqueline has been a victim of medical gaslighting for most of her life- born with chronic illness that went undetected, she found herself, as a young adult, going from doctor to doctor seeking help- to no avail.
Ilana has turned her painful experiences into her subject of advocacy and works to ensure she uses her social media channels to educate and empower those who are seeking answers for their health, and continue to fight to be believed about their pain.
JessB shares her own experiences of being gaslit and JessK offers all her usual insightful commentary. This episode is for all the women who have been dismissed in the doctor's office- and beyond.
Meet Ilana:
Ilana Jacqueline is a patient, an advocate, an influencer, an author, and an educator on the topic of medical gaslighting. She is the author of the book Surviving and Thriving with an Invisible Chronic Illness (New Harbinger 2018) and the upcoming Medical Gaslighting: A Guide to Help You Recognize it, Prevent it, and Fight For Your Life (BenBella Books 2024). To learn more about Ilana and her work visit: Ilana Jacquieine
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Jess K has big wonderings all the time, so it's no surprise that she wanted to go down the rabbit hole of hobbies, and why she doesn't have any. Jess B has some thoughts on hobbies and what she participates in on a regular basis in her free time. WeSTAT wants to know what hobbies you might have- leave us a comment on our Facebook page or our IG and let us know your thoughts on hobbies!
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Bria Gadd, AKA The Period Whisperer, has a theory. And that theory is based on her own experience of coming out to (and as) her true self, after being in a 17 year hetero marriage. Bria believes that among the hot flashes, the hormone fluctuations and mysterious weight gain, something also happens to peri-menopausal and menopausal women- they are no longer able and willing to deny who they are and what they want (or at least what they DON'T want) any longer. Bria believes there is a filter that lifts, and for some women in mid-life, they are finally able to articulate, express and pursue who they really are and who they really love.
Definitely food for thought in this episode, and Jess and Jess have a LOT of questions, as you may too!
Meet Bria!
Bria Gadd is a personal trainer, holistic health coach and integrative nutritionist who specializes in female hormones. She is the founder of The Period Whisperer Podcast and the P4 formula, helping women with weight release and energy gain in pre and post menopause, and finding clarity in hormonal chaos. To learn more about Bria and her work go to: https://www.briatheperiodwhisperer.com/
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What if life came with a user manual? Turns out, maybe it does- and it's called Human Design! Nicole Laino, a peak performance coach and Human Design expert, breaks down the Human Design system and shows us how we can learn how we are intrinsically designed to best use our energy in our work, relationships and just life in general.
Overall, Nicole explains to Jess and Jess, Human Design allows those who understand and apply the system, to fully accept themselves. An incredibly enlightening episode for those who are seeking to understand why they do things the way they do them, why they want what they want, and accept it all.
Meet Nicole!
Nicole Laino is a human design expert with a background that reaches all corners. From a successful acting career in Hollywood, to Goldman Sachs and founder of a CRM startup, Nicole has learned how organizations and people work, and she has engineered how to tap-in. As a human design expert, Nicole helps aspiring thought leaders find their x-factor and monetize their message. To learn more about Nicole and her work, go to www.nicolelaino.com Thanks to our sponsors!Lyssa Seward
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This episode is for those of you who are on the other side of sobriety- as in you do not necessarily have a problem with alcohol or addiction, but you are partnered with someone who is. Be it a personal relationship or a professional one, there is something in this conversation for those of you who are working through the muck of your own emotions in the aftermath of addiction, and need hope and strength to keep going.
Discover Your Spark, a program designed by Dayna Del Val, is meant to help people discover what makes them come alive- or rediscover it. What happens when the spark of your relationship has been snuffed out by addiction? Dayna has been there and she has some really solid advice and tools for those who are in that camp.
If this doesn't apply directly to you, Jess and Jess recommend you forward it to someone it might help.
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This episode is for those of you who are on the other side of sobriety- as in you do not necessarily have a problem with alcohol or addiction, but you are partnered with someone who is. Be it a personal relationship or a professional one, there is something in this conversation for those of you who are working through the muck of your own emotions in the aftermath of addiction, and need hope and strength to keep going.
Discover Your Spark, a program designed by Dayna Del Val, is meant to help people discover what makes them come alive- or rediscover it. What happens when the spark of your relationship has been snuffed out by addiction? Dayna has been there and she has some really solid advice and tools for those who are in that camp.
If this doesn't apply directly to you, Jess and Jess recommend you forward it to someone it might help.
To find out more about Dayna and her work go to: Dayna Del Val
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In the United States, only 18 states provide medically accurate sex education, which leaves far too many of us in the dark about how our body works. In IS THIS NORMAL?,Dr. Brighten candidly shares what your sex-ed teacher should have said but didn’t. She answers all those “lady parts” questions you’ve always wondered but might not have felt comfortable asking, including topics as wide-ranging as the menstrual cycle, postpartum health, libido, acne, the orgasm gap, and vaginal discharges, and Jess and Jess ask about them all.
A really informative, educational and entertaining conversation about women's health and the lack of accurate and comprehensive sex education in the US, if you didn't have questions going into this, you just might end up with some.
Meet Dr. Jolene:
Dr. Jolene Brighten is a pioneer in women’s medicine and an award-winning board-certified naturopathic endocrinologist and a clinical sexologist. She is the bestselling author of Beyond the Pill and Healing Your Body Naturally After Childbirth. A fierce patient advocate and completely dedicated to uncovering the root cause of hormonal imbalances, Dr. Brighten empowers women worldwide to take control of their health and their hormones. Her website, DrBrighten.com, and large social media platform, allow Dr. Brighten to teach women from across the globe how to heal their hormones and have a better conversation with their doctor. She is an international speaker, clinical educator, medical advisor in the FemTech industry, and considered a leading authority on women’s health. Dr. Brighten is also a faculty member for the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and part of the MindBodyGreen Collective. Her work has been featured in the New York Post, Forbes,Cosmopolitan, HuffPost, Bustle, The Guardian, and ABC News. To purchase Is This Normal, go here: https://drbrighten.com/
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Jess B bumped into Skylar Liberty Rose, a midlife coach for the introverted woman, on Instagram when she ran across her video calling out age and body shamers for their hypocrisy when Madonna was under fire for going back on tour well into her 60's. (https://www.instagram.com/p/CoFJ5rKP0Tn/)
She immediately shared the video with JessK and here they are- and it is a GREAT conversation.
Skylar has so much to offer her GenX sisters on the topic of anti-aging and body image as a women's empowerment coach in her later 40's. She is committed to transparency and honesty, as well as compassion, to herself (and others) when she feels less than on the outside. She offers so much insight and some helpful tools on how to navigate these moments for those of us struggling to lover our ever changing bellies and faces.
Such an important conversation and one that every woman in midlife needs to tune in for.
Click here to learn more about Skylar Liberty Rose and her work.
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Middle aged bodies, weight gain, self-loathing, weight loss, numbers on the scale, diets, embodiment, body self-talk, disordered eating....these are all just a few topics Jess and Jess discuss with nutritional scientist and wellness embodiment coach, Rachel Katz.
WHY do we want to lose weight, when we decide to move in that direction, is something Rachel challenges Jess and Jess to examine during this conversation. Is it because we want to feel better and live longer? Or is it because we think people will accept us- because we think WE will accept us more?
The key is to change our relationship with ourselves, before we can change our relationship with food.
This episode is packed full of really great reflection and useful tips for getting started on the journey of health and vitality.
Meet Rachel Katz:
Rachel is a Nutritional Scientist & Wellness Embodiment Coach
that helps women fully heal their relationship with themselves &
their bodies so that they can finally have healthier relationships
with others, food, their careers, money, & their LIFE! Rachel
inspires and motivates women all around the world to find freedom
in every area of their life so they can finally manifest the life of their wildest dreams and live a FULL life. To find out more about Rachel and her work, visit https://thefullifebyrachel.com/
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When Anushay Hossain became pregnant in the US, she was so relieved. Growing up in Bangladesh in the 1980s, where the concept of women’s healthcare hardly existed, she understood how lucky she was to access the best in the world. But she couldn’t have been more wrong. Things started to go awry from the minute she stepped in the hospital, and after thirty hours of labor (two of which she spent pushing), Hossain’s epidural slipped. Her pain was so severe that she ran a fever of 104 degrees, and as she shook and trembled uncontrollably, the doctors finally performed an emergency C-section.
Giving birth in the richest country on earth, Hossain never imagined she could die in labor. But she almost did. The experience put her on a journey to explore, understand, and share how women—especially women of color—are dismissed to death by systemic sexism in American healthcare.
In this episode, Anushay candidly shares her own experiences, and asks the most basic and fundamental question of WHY WOMEN ARE NOT BELIEVED ABOUT THEIR BODIES? And more specifically, about their pain. From the ancient Greek definition of the word "hysteria" following women around, to the point where she finally reaches out for help to relieve her pain, women are constantly dismissed and not believed about their pain.
The bottom line is that women's lives really don't matter in America- especially the Black and Brown women. Women's health is not a priority. Jess and Jess feel like this is something we should talk about.
To learn more about Anushay and buy her book: https://anushayhossain.com/
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In celebration of Women's History Month, Jess and Jess sit down with founder, Rebecca van Bergen of Nest, which is a symbol of assurance letting consumers know that the items they shop, from fashion to furniture, have been ethically handcrafted in a home or small workshop. Through partnerships with companies like Target, West Elm, Patagonia, Eileen Fisher, Mara Hoffman, PVH, Dell, Nest is working to protect and uplift members of the global handworker economy.Rebecca's non-profit partners with massive companies to create a shared standard for home based businesses all across the world in order to ensure that they are compensated fairly and that world wide companies are held accountable for paying fair wages and providing safe work environments.
This episode highlights the work of artisans all over the world, and the woman who is making sure they are being treated fairly and given opportunities for development and growth.
About Nest:
Nest’s programs are bringing radical transparency, data-driven development, and fair market access to a fragmented industry, unlocking handwork’s unmet potential to improve our world, increasing global workforce inclusivity, promoting gender equity, and preserving time honored cultural traditions.
Meet Rebecca:
Rebecca van Bergen is the Founder and Executive Director of Nest, a nonprofit building a new handworker economy to advance global workforce inclusivity, women’s wellbeing beyond factories, and cultural preservation. She graduated with her Masters Degree in Social Work from Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, in 2006, the same year that Muhammad Yunus won the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in microfinance. Following her passion to turn craft, the 2nd largest employer of women globally, into a means to correct the gender and income imbalance in our world, she founded Nest at age 24. Rebecca’s accolades include being a Draper Richards Kaplan Social Entrepreneur, a Cordes Fellow, and receipt of Ashoka and C&A Foundation’s 2016 Fabric of Change Award for innovation in fashion sustainability (received recently at the Copenhagen Fashion Summit). She is a Levi Strauss & Co. Collaboratory Fellow, Draper Richards Kaplan Fellow, and has been spotlighted by the New York mayor’s office as an NYC Catalyst. She was selected as one of twelve of GLG’s 2015 Social Impact fellows and received Clinton Global Initiative complimentary membership in 2015 and 2016. Rebecca is regularly quoted in international media stories for The New York Times, NPR, Quartz, The Guardian, ELLE, Glamour, and more. She has been honored as a PBS “Changemaker,” CNN’s Young Person Who Rocks, and one of the White House's’ Top 100 Entrepreneurial Enterprises led by a young person.
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They have talked about it before, and they are bringing it up again. Jess and Jess pellet podcast host of Nobody Should Believe Me and author of Women are the Fiercest Creaturesabout her experiences reporting on Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy, and how it relates to her on a personal level.
In this episode, Andrea shares her experience with her estranged sister who is suspected to have been diagnosed with Munchausen by Proxy, and how that painful experience for her family, led her to explore the topic, and produce an 8 episode limited series podcast called Nobody Should Believe Me that does a deep dive into the story of Hope Yabarra.
Nobody Should Believe Me is an unprecedented look at a complex and deadly form of abuse, told from the perspective of those whose lives were turned upside down by it.
Novelist Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse.
In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake.
Along the way, she explores the case of Hope Ybarra: a story with uncanny similarities to her own. Dunlop speaks to those most familiar with the case, from the reporter who broke the story, to the detective who investigated it, to the family who lived through it. In the dramatic finale, she’ll speak to Hope Ybarra herself.Meet Andrea:
Andrea Dunlop is the author of five books including WE CAME HERE TO FORGET (Atria/Simon & Schuster; 2019), and a true crime account forthcoming from St. Martin’s in 2024. She is the host and creator of Nobody Should Believe Me, a true crime podcast from Larj Media (October 2022) that explores Munchausen by Proxy from the intimate lens of a family member. In addition to her work as an author and podcaster, she is a member of the American
Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s Munchausen by Proxy Committee and is the co-creator of Munchausen Support, an online resource and 501 c 3 that supports survivors, families, and professionals dealing with MBP. She lives in Seattle with her husband and two children. To find out more, go to www.andreadunlop.net
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Are more women having extamarital affairs? Or are more women just willing to talk about them? Jo Piazza, acclaimed author and podcast host wondered, and so she recorded eight episodes with women who anonymously recount their experiences around their own affairs.
This one is rollercoaster of judgments. The Two Jess(es) start off feeling a bit differently than where they land, after talking with Jo. Why do women have affairs? And why do they decide to stay in their marriages? Why have men always been the ones to engage in this behavior and women have had to look the other way? There are so many questions, and a few answers, but mostly just a lot to think about, especially for women who want more...in bed.
Meet Jo:
Jo Piazza is the national and international bestselling author of many critically acclaimed novels and nonfiction books including We Are Not Like Them, Charlotte Walsh Likes to Win, The Knockoff and How to Be Married. Her work has been published in ten languages in twelve countries and four of her books have been optioned for film and television. She is the creator, host and executive producer of the Committed podcast, Fierce, Under the Influence and Philly Under Fire.
*A former editor, columnist and travel writer with Yahoo, Current TV and the New York Daily News, her work has also appeared in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, New York magazine, Glamour, Elle, Time, Marie Claire, the Daily Beast, and Slate. She holds an undergraduate degree from the University of Pennsylvania in economics and communication, a master’s in journalism from Columbia University, and a master’s in religious studies from New York University.
Listen to Jo’s new podcast with iHeartMedia “She Wants More” every Tuesday: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-she-wants-more-107769177/*
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Let's talk about your money! How much do you spend on Amazon?? JessB halfway divulges that Alexa outed her Amazon yearly total spending during dinner one night. And she nearly choked to death on the total. JessK has all sorts of questions about investing- and how to get started...and seriously, how do we make more money?
This week's episode is chock full of fun and information from the co-hosts of the "Fiscal Firecrackers" a weekly podcast centered around female empowerment, promoting the fact that women should enjoy discussing money, and how their podcast is teaching us that money doesn't need to be so serious!
The hosts, Susan Yeagley, actress and comedian from Parks and Recreation and Galia Gichon, esteemed financial advisor, author, and angel investor, provide a fun and safe environment to answer many of Jess and Jess's questions about money!
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Susan Yeagley: https://www.instagram.com/sukiyeagley/?hl=en
Galia Gichon: https://www.instagram.com/pagesandmore/?hl=en
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Podcast co-host and betrayal coach, Jessica Frew, met her love in college, and they were married within a few months. Everything was easy breezy until two years into their wedded bliss, her husband came out as gay. They attempted valiantly to uphold their vows in a mixed orientation relationship, but it all came to a crescendo when Jessica learned her that her then husband had finally given in and had an affair with a man.
This set them both off on a course they never thought they would travel, however, they set forth with intention and have created a loving (if unconventional!) family unit for their daughter, a podcast to talk about the ups and downs (with Jessica's current husband!) and a coaching program to help support women as they navigate the pain of betrayal in their lives.
In this episode, Jess x 3 sit down for a conversation on how betraying ourselves and not upholding our own boundaries can lead to betrayal of others. Jessica's insights, while specific to her story, apply to anyone in relationship, to themselves, and each other.
Meet Jessica!
Jessica Frew is a wife, ex-wife, mom, stepmom, and BOLD action taker. She has a successful podcast called “Husband in Law” that she records with her husband, Matt, and her ex-husband, Steve. Together they are sharing their stories of love, marriage, coming out, divorce, remarriage and co-parenting to help others know they are not alone. They also co-own The BOLD Logic. A company devoted to helping people go from living in an “I should” mindset to taking BOLD action towards keeping and reclaiming their sense of self. Jessica is a firm believer that by knowing and understanding what it is you really want in life you can BOLDly create a life you love, no matter what your circumstances. Having spent years working through her own healing, she served as a facilitator for support groups for Friends and Family of Pornography Addicts. During these experiences she realized she had been given a gift that she could use to help others heal as well. She has decided it is time to start sharing what she has learned with others.
Today she has a successful podcast called “Husband in Law” that she records with her husband, Matt, and her ex-husband, Steve. Together they are working to spread the values of Love, Kindness, Acceptance, Understanding, Respect, and Appreciation as key tools for creating healthy relationships.To learn more about Jessica's work: https://theboldlogic.com/boldology-journal1634228417019Thanks to our sponsor!Lyssa Seward: https://www.sothebysrealty.com/ttrsir/eng/associate/279-a-3012-4043609/lyssa-seward
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This episode is FUN. Jess and Jess talk with Yasmin Elhady about what her life has been like as an Egyptian Libyan refugee growing up in Alabama. Yasmin was the recipient of much school bullying and used her interest in Saturday Night Live sketches to arm herself at school- and it worked!
Yasmin shares candidly about her experiences on her childhood, white privilege, the overwhelm of motherhood, and how she works out what is happening in her life on stage as a stand up comedian.
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Yasmin Elhady is a comedian & attorney who has toured all over the US & UK. She’s performed at The Kennedy Center and is featured on NBC’s True Story with Ed Helms and Randall Park, now streaming on Peacock. You can catch her stand up comedy on TikTok and her comedic skits on IG. She’s also appeared locally on WUSA9 with Reese Waters, NPR, The Washington Post, TEDx, and in Vice Media’s book “Little
America: Incredible True Stories of Immigrants in America,” which was later turned into an Apple TV+ series by Kumail Nanjiani. She was just named a 2022 “Yes, And...Laughter Lab” finalist for comedy & social justice.Thanks to our sponsor!
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January 25th marks the eleven year anniversary of Jess B's rescue from captivity (she was held hostage by Somali pirates for 93 days for a 45 million dollar ransom demand- check season 1, episode 2 for the full story!) and she is commemorating this very important anniversary with the publication of her first anthology Deserts to Mountaintops: Our Collective Journey to (re) Claiming Our Voice , also the first book from her publishing imprint Soul Speak Press.
In this episode, Jess K interviews Jess B about her heart behind the anthology project, what it has been like to work with 21 other authors who are writing about their own desert to mountaintop experience, and how important it is to Jess B to build a space where women feel validated and included despite and because of what they have been through.
Get your copy of Deserts to Mountaintops on January 25, at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Deserts-Mountaintops-Collective-Journey-Claiming/dp/195847200X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1674427943&sr=8-1 and don't forget to leave a review!
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As Sheryl Sandberg departs Meta many are re-examining the impact of her bestselling book Leaning In and how it fits into today's workplace. Jess and Jess sit down for a captivating conversation with author and speaker, Melanie Ho about her book and the concept of “leaning in” and the challenges that women face in the workplace. “Leaning in and acting more like men” ignores the stereotypical feminine traits needed for modern leadership, and leaves the workplace vulnerable overall, and shortchanges women from utilizing their strengths as they are often undervalued.
Jess and Jess talk with Melanie about how she tells the story of Debra, a pioneering CEO in her early sixties who is much beloved by her team at her growing start-up. But sales are declining, and her strongest women leaders are departing one after the other. It isn’t until she enlists the “reverse mentorship” of the much younger Cassandra that Debra begins to understand the challenges the next generation of women leaders face and the impact on the bottom line.
BEYOND LEANING IN is a different kind of book—while it is based on research, it is told as a novel and designed to spark discussion which is exactly what happens on this episode.
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Melanie Ho is a keynote speaker, workshop facilitator, and the author of BEYOND LEANING IN: GENDER EQUITY AND WHAT ORGANIZATIONS ARE UP AGAINST, a 2022 Axiom Business Book Awards winner described by Kirkus Reviews as “an engaging evolution of Sheryl Sandberg’s ‘lean in’” mantra. Also a visual
artist, Melanie has drawn dozens of comics about the challenges women face at work and leads interactive presentations and workshops using these comics to help team members across genders discuss how to create more equitable workplaces.https://www.melanieho.com/about
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What does it really mean to belong? And why is it one of the most challenging topics of discussion and feeling to embody? In this episode, Jess and Jess sit down with Professor Geoffrey Cohen, and author of Belonging, for a raw conversation about their own experiences that have informed their understanding and shaped their expectations of belonging.
Professor Cohen brings research and science to the conversation, and helps The Two Jess(es) understand that by putting themselves out their with the intention of getting to know others in order to help them belong, we can all make the world a better place. But beyond that, he provides a very human approach to not only his work, but this conversation- and gives really practical advice on how to help ourselves, and others in the neverending quest of feeling like we belong.
This one is full of enlightening information, and above all, hope.
Meet Professor Cohen:
Geoffrey L. Cohen is Professor of Psychology and the James G. March Professor of Organizational Studies in Education and Business at Stanford University. He lives in Palo Alto, California.
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Happy New Year! And in true WeSTAT fashion, Jess and Jess have a REAL REAL REAL conversation about mental health- in particular, Jess K's. Jess K talks candidly in this episode, about her struggles with anxiety and depression, and her recent decision to use medication to help her manage it.
Jess B has a lot of questions for Jess K around the stigma of taking medication and tries to work out (out loud) why people have such a hard time with the idea of taking medications to support their mental health- why wouldn't we want to ease our suffering?
Jess K talks openly about how much medication has helped and IS helping her right now, and meanwhile she understands the hesitancy and resistance many people have to going down that road.
An honest conversation about experiences past, present and future mental health, wellbutrin, orgasms and so many other things- if you are a woman, in particular, struggling with your mental health and the decision to take medication, this might be a good episode to listen to.
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Jess K shares a pretty profound experience with JessB, and it all started with tearing down a vine off the side of her house. The Two Jess(es) explore the possible meanings around Jess K's experience as she shares her inspired action, and how clearing out something physical, actually helped her clear out the spiritual, emotional, and mental clutter that we are all carrying too much of this time of year.
Jess B shares some clarifying lessons she has learned over the past weeks as well, and they both share candidly about all the things they are overthinking about in this season of life and parenthood. And then it all circles back to the vine!
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We pick up where we left off...crunchy carrots and all. Our WeSTAT salon guests really dig into what triggers them, some can't go near zero proof and some consider it a saving grace in social settings. From the weirdness of going into a liquor store and what our children see when we pour that nightcap, to the marketing that goes into how grocery stores are laid out to make consumers feel really alright about all those bottles of wine they are buying (and drinking!) All of these women have opinions around the efficacy of AA, anonymity , and the power of sharing our stories.
An episode that feels like you are at dinner with your girlfriends who don't want to just talk about their kid's sports and the latest workout classes (Yes, we said that!) listeners will learn a TON, and may be inspired to host their own salon style conversations. If you do, let us know!
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Another LIVE show with WeSTAT and an awesome group of community members! Jess and Jess organized a holiday party with a "salon style" intention and are honored to be holding this high minded conversation in collaboration with Umbrella Dry Drinks located in Old Town Alexandria, Virginia.
Sam Kaston educates the group on what zero proof actually means, as everyone sips delicious alcohol free drinks provided by her shop.
You will hear all sorts of opinions, comments and crunching in this episode! It is educational, informative, and exploratory as the group discusses sobriety, what it means to be sober curious- how to hold space as one who imbibes, for those who do not, and so much more.
This episode is a celebration of rich conversation, great food, friendship and connection. Hopefully listeners feel like they are right there with the group too!
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Dr. Kathy Zhang is a hospice and palliative medicine physician and a podcast host who focuses on having the conversations most of us are afraid to have until it's too late: what kind of life do we want to live and when it draws to an end, how can we leave with as little regret as possible? Drawing from Bronnie Ware's, "The Top Five Regrets of the Dying" Dr. Kathy is on a mission to ensure those who are at the end of this lifetime receive care with as much autonomy and control as possible, and she wants the living to do it with clarity, purpose and intention.
Jess and Jess talk with Dr. Kathy about the dignity of palliative care for all family members, the obsession with our culture and beginnings, and how our lives are so greatly impacted when we are death avoidant. Surprisingly, palliative care is a relatively young field- it's only been around for 10 or so years. Dr. Kathy explains the process of end of life care, and why it is still so underutilized and misunderstood. She asks how we can use palliative care as a tool to address the regrets while we still can.
A necessary conversation to have on holding space, in so many ways.
Meet Dr. Kathy:
Dr. Luyi Kathy Zhang is a hospice and palliative medicine physician, author, speaker and transformational life coach. She also hosts The Purpose Filter podcast, the show that helps living people apply dying lessons before it’s too late. Her mission is to bring the clarity, purpose and meaning that comes with confronting one’s mortality to those fortunate enough not to—because everyone deserves to live the life they want with
the time they have left. Dr. Zhang’s coaching and podcast are a mix of inspirational wisdom and practical, action-based tips to help you turn your dreams into reality and live an extraordinary life on your terms. To find out more about Dr. Kathy visit: https://luyikathyzhang.com/
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Any other middle aged women out there suffering from unexplained pain in their shoulder? Dr. Sameer Nagda has some answers for you. It very well could be frozen shoulder- a condition that can be debilitating, and is misunderstood- and really has no origin or rhyme or reason as to why it happened in the first place. Working off of Jess B's struggle with this condition, and her consultation with Dr. Nagda a few months ago, he says it all racks up to bad luck. However, there are some contributing factors, like (ahem) being a woman in her 40's, with thyroid imbalance, or someone who might be facing pre-diabetic status.
This episode is a wealth of information about his curious and incredibly painful condition. If you are aching in your shoulder, this very well could be your answer.
Meet Dr. Nagda!
Dr. Nagda is a shoulder and sports medicine specialist at the Anderson Orthopaedic Clinic in Northern VA. He is a team doctor for the US Womens National Soccer Team and is the chief of shoulder and elbow surgery for the Inova Health System. He is also an assistant professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Georgetown University School of Medicine. He is an active member of the prestigious American Shoulder and Elbow Surgeons and is the recipient of the Neer Award, the highest research award given in the field of shoulder and elbow surgery.
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Jess and Jess check in with each other on their season four theme: Abundance. Every interview they have conducted in this season has ended with asking their guest what abundance means to them. This episode is a collection of those answers, as well as some heartfelt reflections from The Two Jess(es).
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Jess and Jess have an interestingly exploratory conversation with fellow podcast host, Margaret Killjoy, centered specifically around cool people who did cool stuff throughout the course of history, and how her podcast intends to "drag up the wildest rebels, the most beautiful revolts, and all the people who long to be—and fight to be—free." Margaret candidly shares about her activism, and patiently explains anarchy in relation to pacifism to TTJ(es) and how she uses her work as a podcast host and writer to advocate for communities caring for one another through less mainstream methods and approaches.
A different conversation for Jess and Jess, but educational, entertaining and massive food for thought.
Meet Margaret Killjoy:
Host, Margaret Killjoy is a transfeminine author, activist, and podcaster whose work explores what it means for communities to, together, learn to be free. She is currently living in the Appalachian mountains with her dog and her instruments. Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff will be available on iHeartRadio and all major podcast platforms on Monday, May 2nd, with new episodes releasing every Monday and Wednesday.
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If you listened to Monday's episode, the LIVE podcast recording of WeSTAT, you would have heard one of our first audience members contribute her experiences on her second and third act. Sally has been a dance studio owner for over 30 years, and after a traumatic event that caused her family to have to hire a private investigator to vindicate his reputation and job, Sally found a "clear path forward" for her next career.
In this bonus episode, Sally talks about her thought process, the challenges, and fears she had about leaving the dance world, which she had been involved in since she was 5 years old, to moving into the private investigator world. A wide departure, she has learned a whole new skill set, and is putting her horrible situation and all she has learned, to good use.
To find out more about Sally Tierney and her work as a private investigator visit https://www.clearpathforwardpi.com/
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Jess and Jess are coming to you live from Nepenthe Art Gallery located in Ft. Hunt/Alexandria, VA.
The theme of this audience involved conversation was centered around women (and a few men!) in their 40's, 50's and 60's deciding to move toward other areas of professional interest in second, third, fourth iterations of their careers. Attendees of this live recording have the chance to contribute their experiences and opinions to the conversation. Is it a generational shift in the culture that allows us to feel free to pursue our passion and interest instead of staying true to a career that we studied for and presumably committed to?
Lots of inspiration, food for thought, and beautiful experiences woven throughout this episode! The ups and downs, fears and anxiety, and utter thrill of learning a new facet of ourselves through stepping out into a new career are all accounted for here!
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You might have seen her on an interview last week with Glennon Doyle- but here they are- and The Two Jess(es) get to talk to her too! One of the most exciting interviews and conversations for these two self-professed self-help junkies, the leading pioneer of the self-help movement, Melody Beattie is here to talk about the ever confusing and all consuming practice of codependence. JessB declares that she doesn't understand what codependency really truly looks like or means- and Melody assures her, no one does. However, she DOES break it down to the practice of continually loving others before loving ourselves.
This conversation is a true honor, as they unpack the additional need for a chapter on trauma to be included in Melody's new edition, and reflect on the importance of true love- for one's self, as being the answer to solving the epidemic of codependence.
Meet Melody!
MELODY BEATTIE is the author of many bestselling books—including The Language of Letting Go, The Codependent No More Workbook, Playing It by Heart, and The Grief Club. In 2009, Codependent No More was named one of the four essential self-help books of all time by Newsweek. She lives in Southern California.
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If you are one to lose yourself on Instagram or TikTok watching food accounts, most likely you have run across Becca Rae-Tucker, AKA @thesweetfeminist. Becca started using cake as a canvas for expressing her political opinion, specifically about abortion and female productive rights and the concept has really taken off. With several hundred thousand followers she has been able to build a community that is not just into her cakes, but also advocating for safe and legal access to abortion care.
Becca's first cookbook Baking By Feel: Recipes to Sort Out Your Emotions (Whatever They Are) releases October 25, and in this episode, she talks to Jess and Jess about the experience of baking as a way to process your emotions. Not only is this cookbook filled with delicious desert recipes, they are created to correspond with whatever you are feeling on any particular day. Bored? Mad? Lonely? Becca has created a recipe to meet a multitude of emotions, and as she explains in this episode, it has nothing to do with the end result, but all about the process, discovery and recovery of one's self.
Meet Becca:
Becca Rea-Tucker’s first foray into baking came in the form of licking the cookie dough off the beaters while watching her grandma make chocolate chip cookies. She is a baker, recipe writer, feelings lover, and strong-willed voice behind the oft-shared Instagram account @thesweetfeminist. She lives in Austin, TX with her husband.
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We’re sharing a special episode from another podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, from Pushkin Industries. In this preview first responder, Christy Warren, a firefighter and paramedic for over 25 years, was used to being the one to help people. That was until the trauma she repressed from the harder parts of the job caught up with her and she ended up being the one who needed saving. Hear the full episode, and more from A Slight Change of Plans, at
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Since 1970, women have added 2 TRILLION dollars to the United States economy through their increased labor force participation, and we have lost 67% of that progress since the beginning of the pandemic. On top of that, the inflation rate of goods and services towards women is DOUBLE that of goods and services towards men.
Katica Roy, gender economist, and founder of Pipeline, an award winning company that that uses advanced technology to make intersectional gender parity a reality in our lifetime.
In this conversation, Katica breaks down issues like "the pink tax" and why it matters- because women have less money coming into their wallets in terms of income earnings, and more going out, in regards to purchasing goods specified for their gender.
Katica explains that the system wasn't built to value women equitably- and maintains that we confuse progress and equity. Gender in equity starts in elementary school- the value we place on boys over girls, bleeds into the workplace- and she has a ton of statistics to back up her claims.
If this episode doesn't light a fire under every woman who listens to it- then nothing will. Packed full of hard data, facts, and really interesting evaluations done by Katica around what gender equity actually means (guess what? It's not just about women's rights!)
Meet Katica!
Katica Roy is a gender economist, former Global 500 global executive, programmer, data scientist, and the CEO and founder of an award-winning SaaS company, Pipeline. CNN, CBS, Bloomberg, Cheddar, MarketWatch, and Yahoo Finance have sought Katica for her sharp and unconventional take on the day’s headlines. She’s interviewed President Biden, Vice President Harris, Senators Booker and Gillibrand,
Secretary Pete, Canadian Pay Equity Commissioner Karen Jensen, Sophia Bush, Eve Rodsky, Gretchen Carlson, and Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings.
Her high-octane, visionary articles have been published by the World Economic Forum, Fast Company, Fortune, Forbes, Bloomberg, NBC, Entrepreneur, The Hill, The Advocate, Harvard Business Review, and Morning Consult. Her articles have garnered over 2.9 billion impressions. In 2017 Katica was named a
Luminary by the Colorado Technology Association; in 2018 a Colorado Governors' Fellow; in 2019 a Top 25 Most Powerful Women in Business and the Stevie Entrepreneur of the Year—Gold Award; in 2020 the Colorado Entrepreneur of the Year; in 2022 a LinkedIn Top Influencer for gender equity. She is a member of
Fast Company’s Impact Council and Bloomberg’s New Economy Forum.
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As a homeless teenager writing college essays in her rusty Toyota Corolla, Emi Nietfeld was convinced that the Ivy League was the only escape from her dysfunctional childhood. But upward mobility required crafting the perfect resilience narrative. She had to prove that she was an “overcomer,” made stronger by all that she had endured.
The truth was more complicated. Emi’s mom was a charming hoarder who had her put on antipsychotics but believed in her daughter’s brilliance—unlike the Minnesotan foster family who banned her “pornographic” art history flash cards (of Michelangelo’s David). Emi’s other parent vanished shortly after coming out as trans, a situation few understood in the mid-2000s. Her own past was filled with secrets: mental health struggles, Adderall addiction, and the unbecoming desperation of a teenager fending for herself. And though Emi would go on to graduate from Harvard and become a software engineer at Google, she found that success didn’t necessarily mean safety.
In this episode, Jess and Jess have a very honest conversation with Emi about what it actually means to overcome- and our obsession with "resilience porn" as a culture. As per usual, the conversation gets a little uncomfortable, as Jess B confronts her own reality: She makes a living sharing about her resilience. The bottom line is that we have to hold space for the complexity in all things- that is something everyone can agree on.
Meet Emi:
Emi Nietfeld is the author of Acceptance, a memoir from Penguin Press. After graduating from Harvard in 2015, she worked as a software engineer at Google and Facebook.
Her essays have appeared in New York Times, Longreads, Vice, and Boulevard, been nominated for the Pushcart Prize, and noted in The Best American Essays 2021.
She lives in New York City with her family and is available for select speaking engagements.
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Cody Keenan rose from a campaign intern in his hometown to become the chief speechwriter at the White House and Barack Obama’s post-presidential collaborator- and he is here to share his experiences with Jess and Jess. In particular and of most interest in this conversation are the ten days in June of 2015, following the mass murder of nine Black worshipers in a Charleston, South Carolina by a white supremicist. In the days that followed, America – and its first Black president – went through a profound reckoning with race and the legacy of the Confederate flag, while the families of the victims perform an extraordinary act of grace. Meanwhile, two consequential Supreme Court decisions loomed that would decide more than the fate of a presidency, but the fate of millions: the right to health care for working families and the right for same-sex couples to marry.
In this episode, Cody shares his front seat reflections on what has always meant to craft and collaborate on work with President Obama, and how it has shaped how he sees himself, his work, and his country.
A different conversation, but authentic and curious, Jess and Jess are able to reminisce some incredible "Glory Days" with the person who helped pen them.
Meet Cody:
Born and raised in Chicago, Cody Keenan rose from a campaign intern in his
hometown to become chief speechwriter at the White House and Barack Obama’s
post-presidential collaborator. A sought-after expert on politics, messaging, and
current affairs, he is now a partner at leading speechwriting firm Fenway
Strategies and teaches a popular course on political speechwriting to
undergraduates at his alma mater Northwestern University. Cody lives in New
York City with his wife Kristen and their baby daughter Grace.
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Even though the First Amendment actually prohibits view-based restrictions on access, school districts across the country are banning books that address perceived "sensitive topics," such as issues related to LGBTQ+ topics in reading material, but The 19th*'s education reporter, Nadra Nittle, gives Jess and Jess a full spectrum understanding of soft censorship. What is soft censorship? Nadra explains that the regulations around placing books that are written about a wide array of topics in designated areas stigmatizes them, even if they are not included in a full on ban.
In this episode, Jess and Jess address the issue at present, our rights around free speech, and what it means for those who are already underrepresented in mainstream media to have another means of representation restricted or taken away.
Meet Nadra Nittle:
Nadra Nittle is a Los-Angeles based journalist. She has written for several news outlets, including Vox, The Guardian, NBC News and the USA Today Network.Thanks to our sponsors for this episode:
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This is the stuff. Jess and Jess get the tremendous opportunity to chat with Vanessa Bennett, host of Cheaper Than Therapy podcast and co-author of It's Not Me, It's You. (out September 6, 2022)Vanessa and her therapist partner, Jon Kim (The Angry Therapist) have compiled a top ten list of relationship struggles they see with their own clients, as well as within their own relationship. Part memoir, part relationship self-help- this book is all about breaking the blame cycle, owning your part in your relationship- and showing up to do the hard work.
Regardless of whether you are in a relationship- the tools in this book, which Jess and Jess talk at length with Vanessa about are useful for any human who relates to anyone, romantic, friendship, professional, and with self.
From the patriarchal systems that have given us a false narrative around the nuclear family and what it should look like, or all the pressure we put on our ONE partner to fulfill every single need in our lives- Falling in love is more about YOU than your partner—it’s more about challenge and growth than comfort and ease- and that is something we should definitely talk about.
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Jess and Jess kick off SEASON 4 with a characteristically vulnerable, and at times, uncomfortable, reflection on the last three seasons of podcasting, and how the state of openness and abundance is informing how they move forward in the podcast, and in their lives.
This season's conversation will be geared around the word, the feeling, the reality of ABUNDANCE- what it brings up for them, how it challenges them and how the mindset of scarcity and finite goodness actually holds them back from the purpose of what they set out to do.
Abundance is a practice makes progress state of mind- but it sure is worth it.
The Two Jess(es) are beyond excited to kick off this next season with a trust they've never had before, an openness they hope to share with their audience, and an overflow of goodness as they continue to bring all sorts of conversations your way!
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Abundance.
More than enough.
Plenty.
Jess and Jess are ready to tackle that concept and will be bringing you all sorts of ideas, experiences and opinions around the idea, reality and state of being in abundance for the entire next season!
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Jess and Jess love to talk about grief. So this week's conversation with licensed grief therapist, Edy Nathan, around her bestselling book, "It's Grief," where she examines the emotional and devastating impact of loss and trauma.
Grief is hard to talk about- but in this conversation, grief is framed within the context of the Hero/Shero's journey- a state of true transformation. She says there is nothing normal about-never has been, never will be- but that it can become an ally as we find a new normal in that space in our lives that is ready to be changed.
Meet Dr. Edie:
Edy Nathan MA, LCSWR is an author, public speaker and licensed
therapist. She is an AASECT certified sex therapist, hypnotherapist and
certified EMDR practitioner with more than 20 years of experience. Edy earned degrees from New York University and Fordham University, with post-graduate training at the Ackerman Institute for Family Therapy. She practices in New York City. In her expertise as a grief therapist she interweaves her formal training as a psychotherapist with breathwork, guided imagery, ritual and storytelling. Trauma, abuse, and grief cause the soul to become imbalanced: The goal of the work is to find emotional calibration or balance to defy the depth of darkness and the grip grief often has on the psyche.
To learn more about Edy and her work visit: https://edynathan.com/
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Ableism. It's everywhere- in the media, in our schools, in the line at the supermarket. But how many of us actually understand what it is, and the part we play in it? Alycia Anderson, founder and CEO of The Alycia Anderson Company, LLC. Working tirelessly to educate companies and other founders on diversity, equity, inclusion, Alycia considers herself a bridge for everyone to see what is possible. Born in the 70's, wheelchair bound, and with an identical twin sister who was not, Alycia's parents were her first teachers in advocacy and raised her to develop and employ her strategic tool of belief- that she could do whatever her sister could do, wheelchair or not. This practice paved the way for Alycia as she has moved through life, and career, educating, advocating and showing the world that anything is possible.
In this episode, Jess and Jess chat with Alycia about her work on disabling ableism- how ableism continues to show up in all sorts of forms, and how they can become allies in this state of being that is crying out for change.
Meet Alycia!
Alycia Anderson is a TEDx speaker, founder & CEO, inclusion champion, disability advocate, DEI &accessibility change-maker and a believer in possible. Alycia holds a European Masters Degree in Adapted Physical Activity emphasizing the benefits, practices and principles of inclusion. She is a tennis player, cyclist, identical twin and has been a wheelchair user since birth. Alycia shares her journey globally to help communities and companies understand the true benefits inherent to building a diverse and inclusive workplace and society. Alycia right sizes everyday obstacles to open your mind to a world of possibility.
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What defines a toxic relationship? Well, it's a spectrum- and it isn't JUST about intimate relationships- it can by any relationship that feels unhealthy. And you are the only person who gets to decide when it feels unhealthy for YOU.
The toxic personalities are all about filling themselves up, says Dr. Heidi, and because many of us, especially as women, are fulfilled in life by serving others, we are prime targets for a toxic person.
Jess and Jess have so many questions in this episode- and a few realizations. If you have wondered why you keep ending up in relationships where you feel unappreciated, controlled, or manipulated...this episode is one epiphany after another.
Meet Dr. Heidi Brocke!
Heidi Brocke is a Toxic Relationship Awareness & Healing Specialist. After spending 14 years in an extremely emotionally and narcissistically abusive relationship she broke the chains and turned her past into her passion; She left her 24 years career in healthcare to use her life experience and education to be the person she needed when she herself was trapped in the darkness of an unhealthy relationship to provide hope, healing, and freedom to those whose lives have been affected by toxic relationships, emotional abuse, and narcissistic behaviors.
Through education, she presents the understanding needed to empower others to walk through fear and into their freedom.
Today she has helped hundreds rid and heal their toxic relationships and hosts the popular podcast, It’s not Normal, It’s Toxic-rid your life of toxic people - with over a million listens worldwide.
She’s an international keynote speaker, recipient of Empowering Women in Business of The Year award by Inspiring Lives Magazine, and has been featured in both Forbes and Time Magazines for the dedication given to her clients and for her work in the toxic relationship area.
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What does it mean to be "too old?" Bonnie Marcus has researched this question considerably and maintains that we, as women, hold ourselves back with self-sabotaging beliefs that we are too old to be taken seriously, or move to the next professional step.
Bonnie has made it her mission to support women of all ages, but especially those who are 50+ as they continue to grow in their professional goals, and fight the gendered ageism that continues to show up time and again in the workplace.
Jess and Jess have a lot of questions for Bonnie about how to battle gendered ageism in their own minds as they continue to grow this podcast and their respective businesses- and in their professional networks.
Only 9% of public companies address ageism as something that exists in their workplace, let alone, the intersectionality of gendered ageism. Bonnie explains why things MUST change- because our lifespans are NOT linear. We change careers over and over at any part of our lives, and the workplace MUST evolve accordingly.
Meet Bonnie!
Award winning entrepreneur, Forbes contributing writer, speaker, and executive coach, Bonnie Marcus, M.Ed., assists professional women to successfully navigate the workplace and position and promote themselves to advance their careers. She is a leading expert in gendered ageism in the workplace. Her latest book, Not Done Yet! How Women Over 50 Regain Their Confidence and Claim Their Workplace Power, shines a light on
this issue and gives women the tools and the voice to defy ageist assumptions to stay marketable and keep their job.
With 20+ years of sales and management experience, Bonnie’s extensive business background includes CEO of a ServiceMaster company and VP of Sales at Medical Staffing Network and two others national companies in the healthcare and software industries. She has held executive positions in startup companies
and Fortune 500 companies.
Bonnie started her corporate career at an entry-level position and worked her way up to the top of a national
company. Her passion is now to help other women embrace their talent and ambition and step into their full potential and workplace power. Bonnie shares her message globally through speaking engagements, live and virtual workshops, blogging, and her popular podcast, Badass Women at Any Age. Bonnie’s first book, The Politics of Promotion: How High Achieving Women Get Ahead and Stay Ahead, provides a roadmap for women to navigate the complexities of the workplace and position themselves for success. A certified coach, Bonnie has been honored by Global Gurus as one of the world’s top 30 coaches in 2015-2022. She has been acknowledged as one of the top 100 keynote speakers in 2018 by Databird
Research Journal.
Bonnie received a BA from Connecticut College and a M.Ed. from New York University.
Bonnie’s website is www.BonnieMarcusLeadership.com. She can be reached by email at
Bonnie@BonnieMarcusLeadership.com and on Twitter and Instagram @selfpromote. Read her articles on Forbes at www.forbes.com/sites/bonniemarcus. Her podcast, Badass Women at Any Age is available on all podcast outlets.
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It is undisputed that COVID-19 has wreaked havoc on all of us, worldwide. Job juggling, The Great Resignation, social justice, Black Lives Matter, our health, and overall peace of mind- but more than anything, our CHILDREN- what about the children? Not one of us has escaped this mess unscathed.
In her new book, The Stolen Year (due out August 23, 2022) National Public Radio reporter, Anya Kamenetz shares with Jess and Jess her research around the American education system as "the biggest, most reliable social welfare institution for 50 million children" and how it failed our children during the pandemic. Kids don't stop developing, even though the world stopped for a time. And now, we have some things to sort out.
Anya follows five families across the US as they endure the first year of the pandemic. Her findings and reflections make for interestingly jolting conversation, and the book is a must read as we head back into the school year, still dealing with the past, present and future of COVID.
Meet Anya:
Anya Kamenetz is an education correspondent for NPR. Previously she worked as a staff writer for Fast Company magazine. She's contributed to the New York Times, Washington Post, New York Magazine, Slate, and O, the Oprah Magazine, and has won multiple awards for her reporting on education, technology, and innovation. She is the author of four books: Generation Debt, DIY U, The Test, and The Art of Screen Time.
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Dr. Amie Hornaman, a.k.a The Thyroid-Fixer, is a woman on a mission to optimize
thyroid patients around the world and give them their lives back using her proprietary
transformational program: The FIX Method. She is also the founder of the Institute for
Thyroid and Hormone Optimization.
After her own experience of insufferable symptoms, misdiagnoses and improper
treatment, Dr. Amie set out to help others who she KNEW were going through the same
set of frustrations and who were on the same medical roller coaster.
In this episode, JessB shares her very personal experience with thyroid cancer, and the ongoing complications that it brings. From Graves disease to Hashimoto's- this episode covers it ALL when it comes to the never ending conversation.
To connect with Dr. Amie, visit her website: https://dramiehornaman.com/
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As we move out of some of the loneliest years in recent history as a result of isolating, covid and ever polarizing events causing division in our world, Jess and Jess sit down with wellness and loneliness expert, Olivia Ash.
Olivia breaks down the actual definition loneliness and how often project our perceived impressions are what we create our own definition of loneliness to be. As we watch the world go by on social media, as Covid rates sore at different moments and we have to isolate- Olivia shares her research around the opportunities that loneliness actually bring us, to know ourselves more fully, and to find creative ways to express ourselves.
Meet Liv!
Wellness expert Olivia ("Liv") Ash, Esq., MS will discuss results from her forthcoming publication on how to recognize loneliness and implement positive solutions to manage it. Liv is an Indiana-licensed attorney working as full-time Associate General Counsel for an Indianapolis-based corporation. Liv also teaches well-being courses as Adjunct Faculty for Indiana University's School of Health and Human Sciences. Liv received her BS and MS in Exercise Science & Education and is an Indiana-licensed teacher. As a creative outlet and means to share knowledge, Liv founded Liv Balanced, LLC where visitors will learn about well-being, art, and fashion. Olivia paints abstract art and enjoys the outdoors.
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Safety expert and former scientist, Cathy Pedrayes is best known to her 2.3 million TikTok followers as the “mom friend.” With her signature blue dress and pearls, Cathy's content includes clever safety tips, such as how sleeping with a door closed can save a life and go-to lies for awkward situations. Cathy’s safety life hacks have been covered by Good Morning America, Buzzfeed, Today, and more, as well as in her new book published by Simon & Schuester, The Mom Friend Guide to Everyday Safety and Security: Tips From the
Practical One in Your Squad.
Jess and Jess talk safety hacks and run all kinds of security scenarios past Cathy- from buying a new home, to staying in an Air BnB as opposed to a chain hotel as a woman by yourself. Cathy gives a rundown on portable door locks, safety apps for your phone, and ALL THE THINGS.
An important and practical episode for all women- whether you are just going off to college, or living alone as an empty nester- Cathy's book is filled with lifesaving information and advice.
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Herrin Hopper and Holly Harper met in 2015 when their kids were in the same preschool program on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C. Through normal socializing with other parents, somehow six moms - all married and all living in the same 10-block radius - became friends. Sometime in 2016, Holly disclosed to Herrin that her marriage was in BIG trouble. Infidelity. Anxiety. Depression. At the same time, Herrin was working through her own marriage troubles, but from a different perspective and approach. They began to grow closer together as they navigated this time, offering one another advice and just friendship. When Holly's marriage finally ended in 2018 - Herrin was there for her through the worst of it. Six months later, she and her husband decided to separate as well. By the fall of 2019, both were living in fancy schmancy high-rise apartments on H Street NE in the Capitol Hill neighborhood, trying to get used to the "new normal." By early 2020, both were starting to consider their next home buying journey. Over a game of Bogle, they decided to look for a duplex. Less than 10 days later, they had a realtor and went out property hunting. They saw four properties that first day, and the fourth one was "The Siren House." They closed in June 2020 and have been continuing to build community since they moved in.
In this episode Jess and Jess talk with the Siren House owners about what it means to build intentional community, the opportunity to become homeowners, and support other women in that journey, and what it means to parent each others children, setting boundaries, sharing the housing load and living in a mindset of service.
To learn more about The Siren House and their intentional community, visit their website https://www.sirenfoundry.com/
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We, along with millions of women in America, are feeling the depths of despair, panic and grief. We are heartbroken. 💔
The law, as it stands now, has overturned women’s rights to make decisions about their own bodies, their futures regarding motherhood and economy- in one fell swoop, futures have been stolen, autonomy has been smashed and the patriarchy has once again re-traumatized us, and our sisters of all colors, backgrounds, ages and experiences.
This most f*cking certainly is a #humanrights issue. And for those who think this is a solitary human rights issue- here’s breaking news for you: This is only just the beginning.
We want to utter words of hope right now. We WANT to find a silver lining- or a sliver of positivity. But in true WeSTAT fashion- we can authentically say with utmost certainty that today, we are mourning a loss of our rights, our perceived equality, our daughter’s futures, and our sons.
We’ll show up because we always show up. But for you in our WeSTAT community who are hurting and are being re-traumatized right now- know we are sobbing and holding space with you.
This episode is our attempt at trying to hold space for each other and all of you.
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Growing up a Queer Bangladeshi Muslim in Australia, Róisín struggled to fit in. In attempts to assimilate, Róisín distanced herself from her South Asian heritage and identity. Years later, living in the United States, she realized that the customs, practices, and even food of her native culture that had once made her different—everything from ashwagandha to prayer—were now being homogenized and marketed for good health, often at a premium by white people to white people.
In this episode, Jess and Jess discuss how wellness has been co-opted by the privileged few, which is paradoxical to what wellness actually means. Fariha shares her wisdom, hard earned through her life experiences of surviving abuse, and a life long journey of finding who she is within her own wellness, and how we can attune more closely to ourselves and allowing ultimate self-care, which IS available to us all- which is the ultimate goal of wellness.
To learn more about Fariha Roison and her work go to: https://www.fariharoisin.com/
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Jess and Jess realized that one of the most popular points of conversation with their friends (40 and over!) has been what to do about their aging faces. Botox? Age gracefully? Sunscreen? Serums? Facials? What's good, what's bad, what's somewhere in between?
So they decided to bring this conversation to a wider audience, and invited their WeSTAT community to join in!
Along with resident skincare expert and owner of The Med Spa (http://www.themedsparaleigh.com/) Jennifer Daniels, TTJ(es) assembled dozens of women at one of their most favorite local Virginia venues, Revel (https://revelava.com/) to talk about All.The.Things.
Lots of fun in this episode! Tips,, information rich and questions from the audience! If you are wondering what approach is right for you and the largest organ of your body- then you will learn something with this one- for sure!
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Who else thinks living in a 30 foot converted school bus and traveling around the country taking empowering photos of women in nature sounds like THE DREAM? Incredibly talented photographer, Sarah Marcella spent 2.5 months traveling the US in her Subaru a few years ago in order to really learn how to be alone, with herself in all her many layers. And what she decided was that life on the road was what she needed in order to be fully figure out who she was created to be. After being married to a man for five years, Sarah came to terms with her own sexuality and came out at the age of 27, and realized it was time to move fully into her truest self.
Cue forward to The Big Boudie Bus- a concept that has become not just a lifestyle, but a mission- to empower women through the lens of Pay What You Can adventure boudoir photography. Sarah travels from city to city in her Big Boudie Bus and photographs women in natural settings, as naked as they want to get, as a form of ceremony, therapy, spiritual practice and a way to love themselves from the inside out.
Sarah believes EVERY woman should have this experience made available to them- so she operates on a pay what you can basis. She believes she can hold space with each woman she photographs as they fall in love with themselves again, and offer them proof through a photograph, of how exquisite and beautiful they are.
If you would like Sarah to come to your city- DM her at Bigboudiebus or email her through her website at https://www.theboudiebus.com/.
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Jess and Jess have felt lost, forlorn, broken-hearted and out of words this last week. Shocked and encompassed soul crushing grief, along with many other Americans, TTJ(es) had to sit in the muck of shock until they came to the same conclusion: We HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
One of the best things about building this WeSTAT community is so many are willing to sit in the space of uncomfortable conversations, and so, this past Saturday morning, Jess and Jess sat down at Kidwell's kitchen table, turned on a microphone, and invited their friend, Kellie in to share the heart-wrenching story of her own brother's homicide by gun violence in 1990. Her brother was on the way to living the rest of a beautiful life when he was shot point blank, in an Arbey's parking lot while grabbing a late night sandwich with friends. He bled out before the ambulance could even get to him. Kellie recounts her grief is not of just losing her brother, but also that four lives were lost that night- all three of the assailants were apprehended and put in prison- they were also high school dropouts and had fathered children in their teens.
As a reaction to her grief, Kellie has dedicated her life to drug and gun violence prevention with staggering success, and is now serving as a special education teacher at a Title I public school.
This is out of the ordinary for Jess and Jess- it is raw, and you will notice background noise as their lives are moving in the background of the recording (dogs and kids!) but it is a conversation that feels necessary in a time when we have nothing left to say. Because we have a lot of work ahead of us- and we have to do it together.
Meet Kellie:
Kellie lost her brother to gun violence in September 29, 1990. She left her career in advertising to start a nonprofit organization called The Boston Coalition Against Youth Drug Use and Violence. Using her contacts from the advertising agency she was able to bring together the leadership in the private and public sectors to develop a multi-tiered plan for the city. She was lured to Washington, DC in 1995 to help communities across the country build coalitions to address drug use and violence. Working with the Dependent of Justice she helped develop a safe gun storage public service announcement with The Ad Council that was nominated for an Emmy. She raised $1M to create a one-hour TV special produced by ABC News called “The Power of One” which featured five people across the country who were making a difference in their communities to reduce drug use and violence. Since 2012, Kellie has been working in the public schools. Her bother’s killers, who were all 17, had easily accessed a gun but had also all dropped out of school. Kellie is currently working as a Special Education Teacher with at-risk kids at a Title 1 school because she wants to help kids, no matter their challenges, to stay in school. She is an active member of Moms Demand Action and an outspoken advocate for sensible gun laws.
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There is no redeeming value in harshness- nothing good can come from this, that loving firmness can't do better. This is foundational to the work that internationally recognized family therapist, Terry Real, presents to so many of his clients. Whether it is to your partner, or yourself, practicing loving firmness is what can bring us to a place of US, moving us past individualism that separates us from each other, ourselves, the world.
In US Terry, reveals how individualism and patriarchy poisons our most intimate relationships. but offers this excellent news: warmer, closer, more passionate relationships are possible if you have the right tools.
In this episode, Terry shows people how to stop working on themselves as individuals and start working on their relationship as a couple, brining opportunity for relationship saving vulnerability and a deepening intimacy that is worth fighting for.
Meet Terry!
Terry Real knows how to help people create the connection they desire in relationships. An internationally recognized family therapist, speaker, and author, and the founder of the Relational Life Institute (RLI), Real has worked with thousands of individuals, couples, and fellow therapists. His groundbreaking, bestselling book, I Don’t Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression, established him as one of the most respected voices in the treatment of men and male depression. His expertise on men’s mental health and relationship issues have been featured on Good Morning America, The Today Show, 20/20, The Oprah Winfrey Show and in The New York Times, among many others.Real is passionate about showing how the toxic cultures of individualism and patriarchy have seriously damaged our interpersonal relationships. Despite living in a world interconnected by globalization and technology, we are all more disconnected and isolated from each other than ever before. In his practice, Real works with couples on the brink of disaster; he sees how individualism and patriarchy poisons our most intimate relationships. The excellent news: warmer, closer, more passionate relationships are possible if you have the right tools. In US: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship(Goop Press), Real shows people how to stop working on themselves as individuals and start working on their relationship as a couple. Neurobiology shows that the mind exists in a social context, and couples co-regulate one another’s nervous systems. But it’s hard to get that delicate dance right if you, like so many people, grew up without adequate emotional support. The techniques you developed to survive a dysfunctional family as a kid—the very skills that probably bring you success in your career—will torch your relationships. US—the culmination of four decades of Real’s clinical practice as well as teaching and writing about relationships, trauma, gender, and healing—is a groundbreaking guide to a new science-backed skillset. One that will allow you to get past your knee-jerk reactions and tap into your wiser, more collaborative self. Real shares the stories of couples whose relationships have been saved by these skills and pans out to the cultural landscape that reinforce our dysfunction. Using psychology, history, and stories of couples who have entered his office, Real helps readers move beyond their traumas and stressors and shift from thinking in terms of me and you to a different consciousness. The consciousness of us. If you and your partner are backed into separate corners of “you” and “me,” this book will show the way back to “us.”
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John O' Sullivan is the founder of Changing the Game Project (https://changingthegameproject.com/) an organization that was created to ensure that we return youth sports to our children, and put the ‘play’ back in ‘play ball.’ In this episode, John talks with Jess and Jess about the real need to provide the most influential adults in our children’s lives – their parents and coaches – with the information and resources they need to make sports a healthy, positive, and rewarding experience for their children, and their whole family. John explains that parenting and coaching young athletes is an art, not a science, and how we need to look at sports as something that should be child led and fun, not an extension of our own self worth and accomplishments.
At a time when recreational sports have reached a competition level that is unprecedented. John implores parents to allow space for actual enjoyment, not accomplishment, for our kids.
Meet John!
John O'Sullivan is the Founder of the Changing the Game project and host of the Way of Champions Podcast. He is the author of 2 #1 bestselling books, Changing the Game: The Parents Guide to Raising Happy, High Performing Athletes and Giving Youth Sports back to our Kids, and Every Moment Matters: How the World's Best Coaches Inspire Their Athletes and Build Championship Teams. John consults with organizations across the globe, including the US Olympic Committee, USA Swimming, US Soccer, Ireland Rugby, Australian Rugby League, and many others, and his work has appeared in TedX Talks, CNN, ESPN,
Outside Magazine, The Boston Globe, Huffington Post, and many other outlets across the world.Thanks to our sponsors!
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Angela Garbes is the author of the now-classic Like a Mother and her new book, which grew out of her New York Magazine cover story (about how the pandemic was disrupting women’s lives) went viral and was shared by everyone from Melinda Gates to Elizabeth Warren. Angela didn’t want to write another book about motherhood. But during the pandemic, when school and child care center shutdowns left her with nothing to do but mother, she witnessed all her frustrations and racing thoughts about the state of caregiving in America show up in newspapers, on the radio, and in Zoom conversations. During this time, many people came to understand—for the first time or with renewed urgency—that American life is not working for families.
Angela's next book, Essential Labor, maintains that mothering is not limited to the people who give birth to children; it is not defined by gender. While “mother” is an important identity for many women who still provide the majority of care to children in America, no one cares for children entirely on their own. The pandemic revealed that mothering is some of the only truly essential work humans do. Without people to care for our children, we are lost. Garbes explores our history of care and how we got to where we are today: a wealthy country with an invaluable work force of women, most of them brown and black, performing our most important work for free or at poverty wages.
Jess and Jess have so many questions for Angela- and she has answers....but in typical WeSTAT fashion, there are some incredibly vulnerable moments in this conversation as the three women explore what work is, what mothering is, and how we marry the two.
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Marisa and Jake are a perfect couple. And Kate, their new lodger, is the perfect roommate—and not just because her rent payments will give them the income they need to start trying for the baby of their dreams. But no one is truly perfect. Kate doesn’t seem to care much about personal boundaries and can occasionally seem overly-familiar with Jake. But Marisa doesn’t let it concern her, knowing that soon Kate will be gone, and it will just be her, Jake, and their future baby.
Conceiving a baby is easier said than done, though, and Jake and Marisa’s relationship is put to the test through months of fertility treatments and false starts. To make matters worse, Kate’s boundary-pushing turns into an all-out obsession—with Jake, with Marisa, and with their future child. In her quest to find out who Kate really is, Marisa might destroy everything she’s worked so hard to create—her perfect romance, her perfect family, and her perfect self.
When Elizabeth Day set out to write MAGPIE after her own experiences with IVF and miscarriages, she noticed that stories of fertility and the struggles women go through to become mothers weren’t represented in accessible literary fiction. With this novel, Day discusses topics of IVF and motherhood, all through a fast-paced, page turning summer read.
Jess and Jess get the chance to talk to this ever talented author about what it means to navigate the tumultuous and unpredictable world of fertility and what it means to create something lasting, bringing forth into it's existence when there might have only been absence.
Meet Elizabeth!
Elizabeth Day is an award-winning author and broadcaster based in the UK. Her chart-topping podcast, How to Fail, is a celebration of the things that haven’t gone right. Guests have included Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Gloria Steinem, Andrew Scott, Lily Allen, Mabel, Kazuo Ishiguro, and Malcolm Gladwell. It won the Rising Star Award at the 2019 British Podcast Awards. Elizabeth is the author of the novel The Party, which was published in the US in 2017.
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Britt Frank was a drug addict (she's smoked meth out of lightbulbs!), love addict, codependent, borderline personality disordered, clinically depressed, eating disordered and anxious hot mess of a human—despite having degrees and lots of letters after her name, she knows what it’s like to be stuck.
In this episode, Britt sits down with The Two Jess(es) and explains the process of how celebrating the tiny little "yeses" in our every day is what we need to focus on as we decide we are ready to move from stuck to thriving. She also drops a truth bomb, which is super hard for Jess B to hear.
Meet Britt!
Britt Frank, MSW, LSCSW, SEP is a clinician, educator and trauma
specialist. She speaks and writes widely about the mental health myths that
keep us stuck and stressed. Britt received her BA from Duke University and
her MSW from the University of Kansas, where she later became an award-
winning adjunct professor. She is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and
Level 3 trained in the Internal Family Systems therapeutic model. Britt was
a primary therapist at a drug and alcohol treatment center, an inpatient
therapist at a children’s psychiatric hospital, and now owns a private
practice. You can find Britt on Instagram @brittfrank or on her
website www.scienceofstuck.com.
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The Two Jesses, prior to this conversation with Stephanie Wittels Wachs, would have both told you guns are bad. Full stop. But Stephanie has traveled from Montana to Atlanta in search of answers- and they have left her with more questions, and an anger for the system that has pitted us against each other, in a place with zero social net to take care of those who need support with mental health.
Throughout the interviews Stephanie holds with the families who have been changed fundamentally by a gun ending the life of their loved ones, she wonders about the purpose of a gun- and whether or not the gun, in and of itself, is fundamentally bad.
An important conversation, clarifying, and really smart. Check out Stephanie on https://lemonadamedia.com/show/lastday/ to learn more about her work around the opioid epidemic, gun violence and how we can help support the mental health crisis that is taking place in America.
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Award winning podcaster, Bridget Todd, sits down with The Two Jess(es) to talk about how marginalized people show up online, and how disinformation (purposely spreading incorrect information to further one's agenda) and misinformation (spreading inaccurate information with no intention of causing harm) is really a racial, gender, justice and democratic issue.
Bridgetcreated her critically acclaimed podcast, “There Are No Girls On The Internet” to explore how marginalized people show up online in response to the lack of diversity in conversations around social media platforms and misinformation. There is no shortage of conversation points as Bridget shares openly about her own experiences with dis- & mis- information as a woman, and particular a woman of color. Bridget shares about what it means to be a good steward of the internet and how critically important it is to us as a society to slow down, take a beat, and ownership considering what could be true and what could be false, and how we share both with our communities.
Meet Bridget!
Bridget Todd is a frequently cited expert, trainer, and speaker on combating disinformation, conspiracy theories, and extremism online advocating for social media platform accountability. Creating safer digital experiences for women and other marginalized people as well as celebrating and amplifying marginalized people’s contributions to tech and the internet is what caused Bridget to create her critically acclaimed podcast There Are No Girls on the Internet to explore how marginalized people show up online in response to the lack of inclusion in conversations around the internet.
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Jess and Jess sit down for a REAL and authentic conversation with the Canadian version of...THEM! Jen Hoffmeister and Tesha Gibbon, co-hosts of the Now What Podcast share their own experience of loss, grief, and the deep pain of loneliness that comes with being a human. In response to people not knowing what to say or how to support them, Jen and Tesha started a podcast meant to highlight vulnerability and hold space for those who have had to figure out how to rebuild their lives after tragic loss or trauma.
An honest conversation, as always- informative, sensitive and necessary. Jen and Tesha have a good thing going! Check them out at https://www.nowwhatpod.com/
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According to studies conducted throughout the course of the pandemic, mothers were able to complete ONE hour of work during lockdown, as opposed to their male counterparts, who were able to complete THREE hours of uninterrupted work. New York Time's Bestselling author of Fair Play and now, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too Busy World, Eve Rodsky, is working to change society, one partnership at a time by coming up with a new 21st-century solution to an age-old problem: women shouldering 2/3 or more of the unpaid domestic work and childcare for their homes and families.
In this episode, The Two Jess(es) sit down with Eve and talk about how WeSTAT has been the Unicorn Space that has saved them, one they didn't even know they needed. Together with Eve, they talk about the unapologetic carving out of sustained time to pursue creative work- and how it is THE way to keep from languishing in the deluge of the daily grind of motherhood life.
Meet Eve:Eve Rodsky transformed a “blueberries breakdown” into a catalyst for social change when she applied her Harvard-trained background in organizational management to ask the simple yet profound question: What would happen if we treated our homes as our most important organizations? Her New York Times bestselling book and Reese’s Book Club Pick, Fair Play, a gamified life-management system that helps partners rebalance their domestic workload and reimagine their relationship, has elevated the cultural conversation about the value of unpaid labor and care. In her highly anticipated follow-up, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World, Rodsky explores the cross-section between the science of creativity, productivity, and resilience. Described as the ‘antidote to physical, mental, and emotional burnout,’ Rodsky aims to inspire a new narrative around the equality of time and the individual right to personal time choice that influences sustainable and lasting change on a policy level. Rodsky’s work is backed by Hello Sunshine—Reese Witherspoon’s media company whose mission is to change the narrative for women through storytelling. Rodsky was born and raised by a single mom in New York City and now lives in Los Angeles with her husband Seth and their three children.
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Jess and Jess are both very familiar with anxiety. But is it true anxiety or false anxiety? Or is it both, at the same time? Dr. Ellen Vora, holistic psychiatrist and acupuncturist, takes a functional medicine approach to her patients when they come to her with anxiety symptoms. Dr. Vora maintains that oftentimes we feel anxiety symptoms because there is something out of alignment within our bodies. She starts with asking questions about food, sleep, hormone balancing, and the like- and more often than not, anxious states of being can be leveled out by practicing good sleep hygiene, taking gluten out of the diet, getting off birth control or leveling out blood sugar.
A thoughtful conversation about anxiety as a cue to the deeper parts of our body, mind and spirit that need us to prioritize our attention on what matters most.
Meet Dr. Ellen!
ELLEN VORA, MD,is a holistic psychiatrist, acupuncturist, and yoga teacher. She takes a functional medicine approach to mental health—considering the whole person and addressing imbalance at the root. Dr. Vora received her B.A. from Yale University and her M.D. from Columbia University, and she is board-certified in psychiatry and integrative holistic medicine. She lives in New York City with her husband and daughter.
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This episode has been TWO YEARS in the making! When Jess and Jess started WeSTAT, their vision was to hold live recordings in their community where their audience and supporters could attend, and be involved in the conversation- and then the pandemic hit.
Finally, after so many pivots and plan changes, TTJ(es) were able to hold their FIRST of what they hope will be MANY live podcast recordings with an actual audience...of REAL PEOPLE- not just over a computer screen!
The topic of conversation for the evening was FEMALE FRIENDSHIPS, and it turns out- JessK doesn't consider JessB her friend (what??) and that the audience members had a whole lot to contribute to the conversation.
Same Jess and Jess- lots of laughter and round and round question asking, but a very different vibe with really thoughtful contributions from the audience, as well as hard questions.
This episode is a conversation starter for any woman who has friends, struggled with friends, wants more friends, wants fewer friends, and that's just the beginning!
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The Two Jess(es) get the chance to sit down with UK's #1 True Crime Podcast Host, Sam Walker- and ask her All The Things. Sam hosts the 12-episode series where she interviews KC — a U.S. military veteran turned American Vigilante— as he shares elaborate stories about his time over the last 20 years as a real life vigilante for hire — everything from saving abducted children, rescue missions and more. KC is a hugely complex, intelligent, contradictory man who stands on the blurred line between right and wrong, between revenge and redemption, and Sam lets Jess and Jess in a bit behind the scenes on her over 50 hours of interviews with this man she has never met, and really can't see.
While this episode centers around Sam's podcast, the real theme is pondering the fascination almost EVERY woman has with true crime stories. Is it because it makes us feel safer, watching something terrible happen to someone else? Or is it because it makes us feel smarter?
If you are a woman that is obsessed with true crime, this is an episode you will surely appreciate.
Meet Sam Walker!
Sam Walker is a multi-award winning journalist, broadcaster and podcaster. As a host, Sam appeared across national commercial and BBC Radio in the UK for nearly two decades, working for stations as varied as BBC Radio Manchester, Key 103, where she was the first women to host a daytime show, Real Radio, where she was the first woman to anchor a morning show, and national news and speech station BBC Radio 5 Live, where she presented for eight years before moving to the USA in 2019. She is currently the host of the award-winning Sam Walker’s Desert Diaries podcast, which also airs weekly on BBC Radio, and the critically acclaimed American Vigilante. Sam set up What Goes On Media in 2007 and has developed and edited over 20 successful podcast series for brands and individuals both in the UK and the USA. She developed and produces the series Coming Out Stories, which is now also a major book, published in 2021 and also hosted four seasons of What Goes On Here, for Audible. She has written for The Guardian newspaper and speaks regularly at conferences and colleges. She lives in Phoenix, Arizona.
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The Doctor of Sex is back in! The Two Jess(es) bring their favorite SEXPERT back for the WeSTAT community for a conversation on non other than VIBRATORS! Dr. Bat Sheva Marcus, who wrote her PhD thesis on vibrators and women, is bringing all the things when it comes to what she says is the most underused tool in a woman's sexual tool kit.
According to Dr. Bat Sheva, 3 out of 10 women orgasm from the sex we see on TV- 3 OUT OF 10 PEOPLE. Meaning, you are weird if you CAN orgasm from intercourse alone. 7-8 women can have an orgasm with a hand or a mouth, and 94.3% of women can orgasm with the use of a vibrator.
So what are you waiting for? This episode is filled with awesome information, a lot of laughter, and good, good questions.
Meet Dr. Bat Sheva!
Dr. Bat Sheva Marcus is a certified sex therapist and the author of Sex Points: Reclaim Your Sex Life with the Revolutionary Point System. Dr. Marcus is the Clinical Director of Maze Women’s Sexual Health, the largest independent sexual health center in the country. She wrote her dissertation on women and vibrator use while earning her Doctor of Philosophy in human sexuality from the Institute of Advanced Study of Human Sexuality. She also has a Master’s in public health from the same institution. She is a licensed social worker with a Master’s degree from Columbia University.
Dr. Marcus has worked as the executive director of not-for-profit institutions and corporations, medical practices and laboratories. In addition to being featured in a NY Times article, she is a frequent guest on radio, podcasts and has lectured both nationally and overseas on a wide variety of women’s issues.
Read Dr. Bat Sheva Marcus’ PhD Dissertation: Changes in a Woman’s Sexual Experience and Expectations Following the Introduction of Electric Vibrator Assistance
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Pandemic Parenting is now a buzzword, a style of parenting even- a thing those with children at home, especially young ones- are still trying to figure out how to navigate and survive. We are emotionally fatigued- we are so tired, and we are all out of words for how to describe it even. So a collective of women outside of Boston decided to get together and stand in a parking lot and collectively scream. And Melinda Wenner Moyer has written about it in her Atlantic article: Covid Parenting Has Passed the Point of Absurdity which signaled a simultaneous scream of understanding.
As Jess and Jess continue to focus on self-care for the month of February- giving space to this important conversation, whether it includes words or not, feels vitally important to address. What do we do when we just have run out of steam? When we just don't have the words to explain how we are feeling, and we can't seem to find the strength to do the mental gymnastics of who can go where and when and wondering if that sore throat or runny nose means we should isolate or quarantine?
While there's not a whole lot of advice in this one, there is space for the collective understanding and non-judgmental commiseration.
To read the article, go here:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/covid-parenting-challenges-stress/621322/
To learn more about Melinda, go here:
https://www.melindawennermoyer.com/
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Happy Valentine's Day! Jess and Jess have taken their business partnership to the next level. In an effort to really "walk the talk" of Self-Care February, TTJ(es) decide to visit their local Korean spa in search of research, relaxation, and facing some deep seeded public nudity fears.
Why? Well, because it's fun. Or was it? Jess and Jess give a very detailed account of their visit from the horrible prison uniform, to scrubbing down in a shower room with total strangers- to having to pick rice out of their cleavage.
Do they feel better about their naked bodies after this experience? And is it awkward now that they have seen each other naked?
You'll have to listen to find out!
If you are local to the NOVA area and are interested in visiting Spa World, find out more here:
https://spaworldusa.com/
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Jess and Jess talk self-care and prioritizing themselves- and why we don't do it. Who is up to date on their mole check? Getting their ovaries inspected? And the dreaded breast mash-up of a mammogram? And don't even get us started on the horrifying experience of having to get on a scale, post-covid, in the presence of a stranger judging them?
Why do we make sure our kids and dogs and partners health is prioritized and doctor's appointments made but when it comes to our own skin, cervix, back pain (you can fill in the blank!) we ignore it, back burner it or just learn to live with it until a crisis forces us to stop and reevaluate?
February is American Heart Month- and because heart disease is the #1 killer in women in the US- killing over 500k women a YEAR, we think this is something we should really talk about.
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How many of you out there have questions around how to do THE Pot? Whether you are a regular consumer or are worried about the stigma associated with cannabis consumption, podcast host Ellen Scanlon and creater of the How to do the Pot informational (and entertaining!) website can most definitely answer all your questions!
After she sustained a pretty drastic bike accident, Ellen was looking for a better way to treat her chronic pain and health conditions than prescription painkillers, and found respite in cannabis- from treating infertility to regular run of the mill anxiety and stress, Ellen has explored it all and has created a guide for women who are interested in similar explorations as their curiosity grows.
Informative as always, and fun, this episode has TTJ(es) asking ALL kinds of questions about CBD, THC, social justice, legalization, methods of consumption, fears around purchasing and more.
Meet Ellen!
As the host of How to Do the Pot, you’ll find Ellen Lee Scanlon behind the mic, interviewing diverse, modern women about their remarkable experiences with cannabis, recommending the essential strains for women, and sharing the latest research on the psychological and physical benefits of the plant. But what makes this former investment professional and health advocate jump out of bed every morning is her overarching mission to empower women to make more informed choices about their health and well-being. Having released over 100 episodes on everything from sleep to sex, as well as a twice monthly newsletter that reaches tens of thousands of loyal readers, it’s clear that Ellen’s work is striking a chord with the many women curious about cannabis.To find out more about Ellen and her work, visit: https://dothepot.com/
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You don't have to suffer in silence- and you don't actually have to live under the stress of procrastination! There IS A BETTER WAY! Dr. Christine Li, psychotherapist and procrastination coach, breaks it down in a very easy way to understand- our brains don't want the extra stress associated with procrastination- they are so high level and creative and magical- and our fear of failure, lack of clarity and disbelief in what we are capable of, and the fact that we have forgotten that we are limitless- because we get overwhelmed.
Fascinating, informative and just REALLY REALLY good. The Two Jess(es) highly recommend that you don't procrastinate listening to this one :-)
Meet Dr. Li:
I am a N.Y.S.-licensed clinical psychologist working in private practice in New York City and Westchester, New York. I have conducted Procrastination Workshops at Columbia University, New York-Presbyterian Medical School, the New York City Guitar School, the YMCA of White Plains, and in the New York City community.
I have provided in-service trainings on Procrastination at the counseling service centers at Columbia University, New York-Presbyterian Medical School, SUNY College-Purchase, Fordham University, Barnard College, and Scarsdale High School.
In my work, I draw from my many years of experience working with university-aged students at Adelphi University, Pace University-Pleasantville, Columbia University, and New York-Presbyterian Medical School. I started the “Procrastination Coach” website in 2009 to connect to the wider population of Procrastinators at large.
To learn more about Dr. Li and her work, visit: https://www.procrastinationcoach.com/
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When The Two Jess(es) watched Maggie Gyllenhaal's, The Lost Daughter, they knew it was absolutely something we should talk about.
Motherhood. The dark and light side- the highest highs and the lowest lows- this movie made them feel EVERYTHING and most of it made them feel like they were coming out of their skin with discomfort.
TTJ(es) have always had a lot to say on the topic, but using Gyllenhaal's directorial debut as the basis for this conversation takes the topic to a whole other level.
Raw, and as authentic as they have ever gotten- Jess and Jess talk about the shame, the secrecy, the fundamental flaws that attach themselves to the honest conversation around becoming a mother, losing ourselves in motherhood, and finding ourselves outside of that sphere- if it is even possible.
To choose ourselves within the confines of what is supposed to be "the most natural thing" we judge as selfish, crass, and certainly the worst of motherkind.
But is it? TTJ(es) have lots of questions, very little answers, and a whole lot of tears to share.
Article Reference:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jan/05/the-lost-daughter-elena-ferrante-maggie-gyllenhaal-motherhood
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What's your luxury item go to- or hope to have so soon? Jess K gets really honest about her mixed emotions around a Christmas present from her husband that definitely falls into the "Conspicuous Consumption" category! Jess B talks shares about the work she is doing around repairing her mindset and relationship around money and her ambiguity around a luxury handbag she's got her eye on!
Uncomfortable, yes.
Authentic, always.
Awkward, you bet.
WeSTAT welcomes 2022 in style!
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In an attempt to deal with the resulting range of emotions and physical changes in midlife, Jen Mann posted a completely honest now-viral post, “Anyone Else Falling Apart Or Is It Just Me?” The response was instantaneous and overwhelming. Women from all over the country flooded the comments section, glad to see they weren’t the only ones experiencing this feeling of isolation and dissatisfaction. Jen decided to create an online community call “Midlife Bites” and quickly had tens of thousands of followers all exchanging thoughts, ideas, and possible solutions around the theme of midlife and what it has to offer, not just how tough it could be. After establishing a safe online space to exchange ideas, Jen used the thousands of responses she got, along with many of her own experiences to inform the topics in MIDLIFE BITES.
Jess and Jess have a WHOLE LOTTA things to say about the general disruption and malaise they are experiencing in their own middle lives, and Jen Mann brings wit, vulnerability and a healthy dose of humor to the conversation around how EVERYTHING changes when you reach the middle of your life- and WHY THE HELL aren't we talking about it?
For women of every age, but especially those between the ages of 40-60, Midlife Bites is a must have manual on how to come through this time in life stronger, connected and ready to take on what's next.
Available January 4, 2022, Pre-order Midlife Bites at
https://www.amazon.com/Midlife-Bites-Anyone-Falling-Apart/dp/0593158512/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3KD79CVZWVAN1&keywords=midlife+bites+by+jen+mann&qid=1641166048&sprefix=midlife+bit%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-1
Meet Jen!
Jen Mann is best known for her wildly popular blog, People I Want to Punch in the Throat. She is the author of the New York Times bestseller People I Want to Punch in the Throat. She is also the editor of the New York Times bestselling I Just Want to Pee Alone series. She lives in Kansas with her husband and two children.
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In celebration of surviving 2021, and looking ahead to the EPIC YEAR 2022 is most surely going to be! The Two Jess(es) share a few of their favorite outtakes and clips from their all time favorite guests! There is a lot of laughing, gratitude and just overall JOY brimming in this episode.
From Bat Sheva Marcus, author of Sex Points (https://drbatsheva.com/) and dubbed the "Queen of Vibrators" to The WeSTAT Lesbian Doppelgangers, and hosts of "If These Ovaries Could Talk" podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-these-ovaries-could-talk/id1331160807)https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-these-ovaries-could-talk/id1331160807 WeSTAT's favorite guest co-host, the amazingly funny, Joey Klei pops back on for a few surprise outtakes, and so much more!
This episode is The Two Jess(es) gift to you- Happy New Year to the WeSTAT community! It's because of YOU that Jess and Jess keep showing up!
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The Two Jess(es) are bringing their Christmas requests to YOU- their WeSTAT community! From Christmas present requests for new pajamas, to requests for Apple Reviews- TTJ(es)
have a few more requests from YOU!
In celebration of all WeSTAT has accomplished and wrapping up a beautiful year- a fun and light shameless request :-)
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This episode is brought to you by the Ghost of Christmas Cheer! Bringing to your earbuds, The Judgment Jess(es) and so much more- chock full of opinions that probably should have been kept to themselves- but heck, it's CHRISTMAS!
The Two Jess(es) discuss everything from that (frickin) Elf on the Shelf, to the spiritual nostalgia that comes with the festivities, to the various types of moms out there killing it with their gift wrapping prowess and their #blessed social media posts.
A fun little convo about the miracle of Christmas, and how much (or little) we are willing to put into building that miracle so that their kids have incredible holiday memories- in typical WeSTAT fashion- they hold NOTHING back!
To read the blog post written by future WeSTAT guest, Jen Mann, click here: https://www.peopleiwanttopunchinthethroat.com/2011/12/over-achieving-elf-on-shelf-mommies.html
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What does it even mean to be authentic? Most of us don't know, because, as executive coach, Erika Gerdes contends, how can we know what is authentic, if we don't really even know ourselves? Erika challenges the Two Jess(es) to move into a deeper space of true authenticity by recognizing our true identity and embracing ourselves and the awareness of our triggers and reactions.
Meet Erika!
Erika Gerdes is a leadership advisor, speaker and coach. She is a former 12-year Google global business executive who now works with high achieving leaders and teams from companies like Google, Pinterest, Twitter, and Time to embrace the philosophy of Full Range Living so they can take bigger risks, have more fun and make a bigger impact. Learn more at erikagerdes.com
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Dr. Robyn Hanley-Dafoe joins The Two Jess(es) for an authentic and vulnerable conversation about survival, and how equipped we as human beings are, to do hard things. Robyne did one of the hardest things she will ever have to do, and kicked her way out of a sinking car in the middle of a frozen lake during a blizzard outside of Ontario, Canada when she was 16 years old.
It was in those final moments that Dr. Robyne decided life was worth fighting for, and it changed the trajectory of her life, laying the groundwork for her research around resiliency and why people really can do hard things. Her Five Pillars of Every Day Resiliency help us frame the way we can show up in the world as authentic to ourselves and each other with intention to make the best decision we can in the moment, even if it is hard.
Meet Dr. Robyne:
Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe is a multi-award-winning psychology and education instructor who specializes in resiliency, navigating stress and change, leadership, and personal wellness in the workplace. Described as transformational, engaging, and thought-provoking, Robyne’s keynotes provide practical strategies grounded in global research and case studies that help foster resiliency within others and ourselves. Robyne is available for consultation, training and professional development opportunities ranging from one-to-one to company-wide initiatives.https://robynehd.ca/
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A deeply emotional memoir by a longtime ESPN writer about the suicide of his son Max and how their complicated relationship led him to see grief as love.
In February 2015, Ivan Maisel received a call that would alter his life forever: his son Max’s car was found abandoned in a parking lot next to Lake Ontario. Two months and countless harrowing hours later, Max’s body was found in the lake. There’d been no note or obvious indication that Max wanted to harm himself; he’d signed up for a year-long subscription to a dating service; he’d spent the day he disappeared doing photography work for school. And this uncertainty became part of his father’s grief.
Taking its title from Max’s love of photography—and his tendency to only love the camera when he was behind it, looking away whenever his picture was taken—I KEEP TRYING TO CATCH HIS EYE tells the deeply human and empathetic story of a father’s relationship with his son, of its complications, and of Max and Ivan’s struggle—as is the case for so many parents and their children—to connect. And of how our tendency to overlook men’s mental health can have devastating consequences, and how ultimately letting those who grieve do so openly and freely can lead to greater healing.The Two Jess(es) have the unique opportunity to talk with Ivan about grief, and how, at its most stripped down state, it is really born out of love.
Meet Ivan:
Ivan Maisel is Vice President/Editorial and Senior Writer at on3.com. He has covered college football for nearly four decades, from 2002-2021 as a senior writer for ESPN, where he wrote for ESPN.com, appearing on television, ESPN Radio and on podcasts. He also served as Editor-at-Large for ESPN College Football 150. Prior to joining ESPN.com, Maisel covered national college football for Sports Illustrated, Newsday, and The Dallas Morning News. He has been honored eight times for Best Story by the Football Writers Association of America, and twice by The Associated Press Sports Editors, which in 2019 named him one of the 10 best sports columnists. Maisel earned a bachelor's degree in American Studies from Stanford University.
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What if...we turned immersive entertainment into our greatest tool for healing and growth? This is the question that drives Alex Kaplan every day, and what led him to form the non-profit Of Substance. By using story telling in the form of mini movies to deliver an immersive experience that heals through depicting addiction- the struggle and triumph- around it
Alex shares with The Two Jess(es) his journey of addiction, and how he has used his passion for movie making and his commitment to vulnerability to propel him forward and turn his mess into his message. His belief is that we have ALL felt that we are not good enough, we all deal with the experiences of embarrassment, shame and unworthiness and the answer is connection and belonging.
Meet Alex!
Alex Kaplan, a Philadelphia native and LA transplant, was trained as an actor in the University of Miami’s conservatory and transitioned to a career behind the camera as a producer and director for the past decade.
Today, Alex is the Co-founder & Executive Director of Of Substance, an innovative non-profit revolutionizing addiction and mental health treatment, education, and support, using premium entertaining short films as a tool for deeper healing, growth, and transformation.
After surviving his own battles with addiction, Alex recognized the power of story as a tool in his recovery and found an exciting way to use his filmmaking experience to help others on their paths of overcoming struggles of shame & isolation.
The biggest thing he learned on his journey is that his issue was far less about using substances than it was about WHY he used substances; It was about shame, isolation, a fear of not belonging, and a fear of not being good enough.
Alex and his co-founder Brian Gallagher built Of Substance to help us all recognize that we’re not alone in these feelings and to positively transform people's relationships with themselves, others, and their beliefs in what's possible.
Most importantly, Alex is now a proud husband, supportive member of his family, and a friend on whom others can lean, having risen from his struggles with addiction and refusing to give up.
Of Substance.
Of Substance is a nonprofit revolutionizing addiction, mental health, and suicide prevention, education, treatment, and support thought movies!
We make premium entertaining short films, mini-movies you really like watching, that tackle all of our struggles in a way that helps us overcome the shame, blame, and stigma we all experience, reminding us that we're not crazy, we're not alone, and we're already doing great!
We're turning movies into an approachable and captivating tool for transformation, that expedites and enhances the journey through healing and growth.
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November is National Diabetes Awareness Month and in order to raise more awareness around the rising diagnosis of type I diabetes in children. The Two Jess(es) sit down with Nurse Practioner and certified diabetes care and education specialist, Ellie Kagan, for an incredibly informative conversation on type 1 diabetes and how it affects children with a diagnosis. Ellie breaks down the road to diagnosis, what families will face, and how they should expect to navigate such a life altering situation, for the entire family. Ellie outlines the symptoms you might encounter, what to look for, and when to seek professional help. This episode is incredibly eye opening and a must for every parent.
Meet Ellie:
As a Nurse Practitioner and certified diabetes care and education specialist, Ellie Kagan has been helping children with type 1 and their families manage their diabetes for the past 13 years. She worked as part of the outpatient clinical practice at Mt. Washington Pediatric Hospital, an affiliate of Johns Hopkins Hospital and University of Maryland Hospital from 2008-2021. Ellie is a certified insulin pump trainer for Tandem, Insulet and Medtonic as well as a certified continuous glucose monitor trainer for Dexcom. Ellie saw the need for more personalized diabetes education and recently opened Diabetes Education Solutions, a private diabetes coaching and consulting business. She provides families with the tools they need to help their child succeed and thrive with diabetes. She currently serves as an advisor and research moderator for Seagrove Partners, LLC, an independent consulting firm concentrating on diabetes research and technology. Ellie is a frequent guest speaker and educator for school nurses at public and private schools and is called on to speak about diabetes management at school conferences. To find out more about Ellie and her work go to: http://diabetesesolutions.com
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In follow up of their first conversation with representatives from the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee, The Two Jess(es) talk with Justine van der Leun, investigative journalist and host of the true crime podcast, Believe Her, produced by Lemonada Media.
Through this six part series, Justine explores true crime as it comes to us, upside down — she presents a story about survival, punishment, and a push for change through rare access to police audio, official documents, and rare conversations with criminalized survivor, Nikki Adamando, from prison. Justine is on a mission to unravel this complex, layered case of criminalized survival, and ask: How can we stop cycles of trauma and violence? What does true justice look like?
Jess and Jess, as close followers of Nikki's case, ask a few of their own difficult questions and the three women have a very open and honest discussion about the systemic work that still needs to be done so that victims of abuse may truly live free.
Meet Justine:
Justine van der Leun is an award-winning journalist and an Emerson fellow at the New America Foundation. She is currently writing Unreasonable Women: Survival, Punishment, and Mass Incarceration in America, which will blend narrative stories with original nationwide data to explore the links between trauma, systemic failures, and the criminalization of women’s acts of survival from physical and sexual abuse. The book will be published by Ecco, an imprint of HarperCollins. Follow her @justinevdl.
About Lemonada Media:
Lemonada is a podcast network founded in 2019 by Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. The company’s podcasts share an unfiltered version of the human experience in a time of increasing polarization, in an effort to make life suck less. Lemonada provides a robust advertising platform, one that is nonpartisan and deeply engaging, with uniquely amiable host-read ads. For sponsorship opportunities, contact: dawn@lemonadamedia.com. For press inquiries, contact: lemonada@metropublicrelations.com.
Listen to Believe Her here.
For more information on the Nikki Addimando case reference WeSTAT season 2, episode 38 (air date April 18)
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When Karen Allen was 29 years old, she was a wife, a mother of a two year old, and had the whole wide world ahead of her. And then, it all fell apart- and in the space of a breath, her life was completely derailed, and a new one began, when an armed shooter walked into her husband's Crossfit studio, and shot him in the head, killing him instantly.
A widow before she turned 30, it was when her 2 year old wandered into her bedroom and wanted to know if she was going to get out of bed- that she realized she had two choices. She could either give up, or get up. And then she realized, she always had more than one choice in life. And the best choice is always going to be to embrace the messy middle of being 100% human.
A conversation on perfectionism and recovery- on authenticity and excellence- the fullness of the human experience- Karen breaks down how to have a more meaningful connection with their own humanity with the Two Jess(es).
Meet Karen:
Karen is proud to be a...
✔ Super-mom and totally figuring it out as I go
✔ Keynote speaker who still gets bubbly butterflies (learn my trick to turn those anxious nerves into uplifting excitement)
✔ Healthy eater who also loves pizza and greasy burgers
✔ Super organized person who can never find her Airpods
✔ Amateur musician who sings off-key sometimes while cooking, cleaning and driving
who helps people all over the world get out of a rut and wholeheartedly pursue their biggest goals; because she knows first hand that when you choose to be better, you make the people and the world around you better, too. Karen turned her epiphany into a clear, actionable mindset that provides a “get out of perfection free” card for all of the beautiful, imperfect humans out there . 100% Human™ is about developing the mindset and tools to stop feeling tossed around by life and start focusing on the joy and abundance that is actually under your control.
https://www.karenallen.co/about
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In this supportive, life-saving resource, the New York Times bestselling author of The Gift of Failure helps parents and educators understand the roots of substance abuse and identify who is most at risk for addiction, and offers practical steps for prevention.
Jessica Lahey was born into a family with a long history of alcoholism and drug abuse. Despite her desire to thwart her genetic legacy, she became an alcoholic and didn’t find her way out until her early forties. Jessica has worked as a teacher in substance abuse programs for teens, and was determined to inoculate her two adolescent sons against their most dangerous inheritance. All children, regardless of their genetics, are at some risk for substance abuse. According to the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse, teen drug addiction is the nation’s largest preventable and costly health problem. Despite the existence of proven preventive strategies, nine out of ten adults with substance use disorder report they began drinking and taking drugs before age eighteen.
The Two Jess(es) welcome this incredible third Jess, once again, for another rattling WeSTAT conversation on the topic of alcohol, your kids, substance abuse disorder, and how our relationship to ALL of it, desperately needs to be examined- for the sake of our children's brain development.
Meet Jessica!
Jessica Lahey writes about education, parenting, and child welfare for The Washington Post, the New York Times, and The Atlantic and is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, The Gift of Failure: How the Best Parents Learn to Let Go So Their Children Can Succeed. She is a member of the Amazon Studios Thought Leader Board and wrote the curriculum for Amazon Kids’ The Stinky and Dirty Show. She lives in Vermont with her husband and two sons.
To learn more, go to: https://www.jessicalahey.com/
Link to FB Video mentioned at end of show:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?extid=NS-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C&v=382651633389095
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Meet Zach Gottlieb, the "TEEN Instagrammer" who is getting guys and other teens to talk about their mental health, in particular those issues related to male feelings and toxic masculinity. In this episode, the Two Jess(es) are blown away by this teen's articulate way of expressing his experiences and observations around his own mental health, as he shares WHY he started his Instagram page (@talkwithzach) and how teens all over the world and looking to him for advice to source answers to their questions that most teens are not talking about openly, but should.
To find out more about Zach, you can read about him here:
https://katiecouric.com/health/teen-wants-to-get-guys-to-talk-about-their-feelings-end-toxic-masculinity/
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Gila Pfeffer is more than just the mom who knew too much, she takes the bull by the horns in every part of life, including her health- and she was going to make damned sure she was going to laugh the whole time too! While in the throes of motherhood, Gila, who lost her mother and grandmother in their 40's from breast cancer, found out she did indeed carry the Brca gene, and decided she was going to face impending cancer head on, and do it in the funniest way possible.
A huge advocate for early detection, Gila's humorous spin on the "Feel it on the First" campaign is one that should not be missed! In this episode, TTJ(es) talk about motherhood, cancer and laughing through it all with one of London's funniest moms!
Meet Gila!
Gila Pfeffer is a Jewish American writer and humorist currently living in the UK with her husband and four teenaged children. She writes relatable personal essays in the parenting and breast cancer space and recently co-authored a book called I Just Want to Hang Out With You which is part of a NYT best selling series.
Gila is a 12-year breast cancer pre-vivor AND survivor (like Angelia Jolie but with less press coverage) and she uses her social media platforms to promote breast cancer prevention. She posts an attention-grabbing “Feel It On The First” post every first of the month on her Instagram which prompts women to take their breast health seriously. Several have written to her saying that these reminders have led to diagnosis of early stage breast cancer.
Her work can be found on Grown & Flown, Momtastic, AARP among others, as well as the humor publications Points In Case, The Haven, Greener Pasteurs and more.
Gila is currently at work on a collection of personal essays about how to sail through the worst life throws at you with the help of humor, perspective and maintaining strong ties to her faith.
Connect with Gila on her social channels:
IG: @gilapfeffer
Twitter: @gilapfeffer
Tik Tok: @gilapfeffer
Medium: @gila.pfeffer
Facebook: The Mom Who Knew Too Much
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Yep, that's right. The WeSTAT guest this week is JessK- and she is sharing her heart behind her newest project, Neuroversity Podcast- a solo podcast that aims to dive deeper into the areas of neurodivergence, giving a voice to those who might not normally get to speak up and speak out about neurodiversity and all that entails.
This episode is informative, as well as inspirational, as The Two Jess(es) discuss the terrifying and exhilarating time leading up to the launch of this passion project, and the dream of what it could truly be.
To learn more about Neuroversity Podcast visit her on instagram at @neuroversitypod
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This episode is a little different as the Two Jess(es) play a different role. JessK interviews JessB on her newest project, The Project You Collective, along with her two business partners, Rebekah Gregory, survivor of the Boston Marathon Bombings, and Loren Buchanan, creative director and founder of Buchanan Creative Group.
A transformational coaching program for women who feel called to tell their stories- Jess, Rebekah and Loren offer a comprehensive service that works through the personal development, professional development and digital development process so that women are empowered to share their experiences in a clear concise way, that targets their audience, connects to their purpose and shows the world what they are all about.
In this episode you will learn about:
1. The three stages of the PYC program
2. Why there is incredible power in what we perceive as the "Everyday Story"
3. Why choosing the change in your life is often the most relatable story to tell
4. Why fostering an environment of collaboration is rooted in the belief that there is space for everyone and how that can bolster your business
5. Why having a cohesive digital footprint is the key to building your speaker's profile
To find out more about Project You Collective, visit: https://www.projectyoucollective.com/
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This week, The Two Jess(es) sit down with Rachel Peru, a curvy, silver-haired model, and body confidence activist, hailing from the UK. Rachel started her modeling career at 46, and offers so many insights about body image, aging, and her feelings around honoring her body by wearing beautiful, sexy lingerie. Life is the special occasion- so why wait?
A fun conversation with three women about stepping off the scale, detaching our underwear for the function of sex, and making ourselves understand, inside and out, that we are worthy of beautiful things.
Meet Rachel!
https://www.rachelperu.co.uk/
Rachel Perus is a silver haired curve model, body confidence activist and influencer and the host of the Out of the Bubble podcast. She began her new career as a model at the age of 46.
Rachel loves being able to represent older women in the fashion industry and has worked with some amazing people and brands including JDWilliams, F&F Clothing with Davina McCall and alongside her body confidence icon Ashley Graham for Swimsuits for All.
Rachel created "Out of the Bubble" in order to spread some positivity around midlife and share inspiration to others that may be feeling a bit lost as they hit their forties. Rachel knows from her own experience that stepping out of her comfort zone and trying new things in life can lead to all sorts of opportunities and bring a new lease of life for this next chapter.
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You may know her from her years as a part of the cast of Grey's Anatomy- but today Kate Anthony is here to answer (and ask!) some tough questions, in her newest role, a coach and mentor for cis-hetero women who are contemplating divorce and asking one of the most important, and difficult questions of their lives. Should I stay, or should I go?
From just a general BLAH marriage, to those that are emotionally abusive and everything in between, Kate has guided hundreds of women through the complex journey of deciding whether they are ready to apply newly acquired tools to their marriage, or doing divorce right. The Two Jess(es) ask all kinds of questions, including, how to divorce without screwing up your kids. Kate has a well thought out and realistically applied answer for pretty much everything!
To find out more about The Divorce Survival Guide, visit https://kateanthony.com/about/
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Dr. Rachel is BACK. And she is sharing, once again and so generously, her expertise, the latest research, and personal experiences with the WeSTAT community. Jess and Jess first sat down to chat with Dr. Orscheln 18 months ago, and to date, it is still the most highly downloaded episode in WeSTAT history! No one would have guessed that we would be right back here, having a similar conversation.
From vaccines, to mutations to just straight up data, Dr. Rachel breaks down all the Jesses' questions so that they, and everyone, can understand the latest on COVID-19, the variants, and when our younger populations are eligible for vaccination. Dr. Rachel definitely knows best!
Meet Dr. Rachel!
Dr. Orscheln is the director of ambulatory Pediatric Infectious Diseases and the International Adoption Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and Washington University. She is a graduate of the University of Missouri-Columbia School of Medicine. She completed her residency in Pediatrics at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and a fellowship in Pediatric Infectious Diseases at Washington University. She has been a member of the faculty since 2005 and is currently an Associate Professor of Pediatrics. Her special clinical interest is in the care of immunocompromised children. During the COVID-19 Pandemic, she has been actively engaged with schools on the safe return to in person learning. When she is not at work, she enjoys spending time with her husband and 3 children
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Anyone out there ever have your kid trigger you when you least expect it? No? Just us? Didn't think so.
The Two Jess(es) sit down for a very vulnerable conversation with the hosts of the extremely popular podcast, https://notyourmotherspodcast.co/ as well as their partner in creating Raising Children You Like (https://raisingchildrenyoulike.com/home) An online course to help parents of children 1-6 know what to say in hard moments and get to the root of your triggers.
Hosts Sonnet Simmons Matthews and Veronica Morales Frieling and licensed family and marriage therapist, Bryana Kappadakunnel contend that parenting can be a source of deep healing as we allow ourselves to approach raising our children with humility, and the openness to allow the things that trigger us, become the moments that become our greatest teachers, leading us to profound relationship with our children.
If you are looking for support in the early years of parenting, this is a must listen, and check out their resources and podcast at the links above.
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The Two Jess(es) start off Season 3 with a bang, and get really vulnerable about.....their faces. JessB gets really honest about what she sees going on under her eyes, and while way back in Season 1, she waxed poetic about aging and her right to eye bags, she has decided, she's done.
In their quest for hearing all sides of the skincare story, and in an effort to appease their curiosity and get some answers to the burning question for almost every woman over 40: WHAT IS HAPPENING TO MY F%&*ING FACE! And what can I do about it?JessK brings in THE EXPERT to answer ALL the questions, and these answers are brought to us by non other than her sister, Jennifer Daniels. Jennifer is a medical esthetician, and owner of The Med Spa (https://themedsparaleigh.com/) which is one of the top med spas in the greater Raliegh area. Jennifer generously offers her advice, and professional wisdom, as she patiently answers all of Jess and Jess' questions about prevention and correction, neurotoxins, fillers, creams, just to name a few.
JessK shares her thoughts and experience around her own use with injectables, and the thought process behind it. The constant conundrum of aging gracefully with authenticity, or with the assistance of modern science, the largest organ of our body and how we care for it is always cause for interesting, and sometimes heated, conversations!
Meet Jennifer!
“Beautiful skin is attainable for everyone and finding the right balance of products and treatments for clients is what I do best. A skincare routine just has to work for you. I am a product enthusiast, and I’m always researching how ingredients react with other components to achieve the optimal skincare regimen.”
After her daughter started kindergarten, Jennifer decided she needed a change from her decade-plus career in sales and marketing. She wanted to follow her lifelong passion for skincare and layer on to her B.S. in Business Administration from Miami University. She went back to school, graduated top of her class in Esthetics at Miller Motte College and went on to acquire Laser Certification at the Laser Institute in Albany, NY. Jennifer has been affiliated with Raleigh Plastic Surgery Center since 2008 and began The MedSpa in early 2013.
Jennifer is wholeheartedly committed to the improvement of clients’ skin and addressing their skin’s appearance and concerns. Her favorite part of her job is conversing with patients to get insight into their wants, needs and expectations about aging, sorting through the myriad of products on the market and their skincare goals. “Integrated skincare performed with integrity” it’s a mantra Jennifer embodies and what has landed The Medspa as one of the top rated medical spas in the Triangle.
Favorite beauty service: Eyelash tinting! The best way to make your eyes pop (of course after you use Latisse or Revitalash to grow long lush lashes!)
Favorite skincare product: Hydrating B5 gel by Skinceuticals hands down! Comprised of Hyaluronic acid, EVERYONE can use it. Everyone needs it! Hydrates to create supple, flawless skin—I have used HA for a decade!
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Uncertainty, risk, emotional exposure. This (according to the GREAT Brene Brown) is the definition of vulnerability.
Sounds like a great way to kick off Season 3, right? In true WeSTAT fashion, the Two Jess(es) have decided to pick a theme to carry them through, along with their guests, this season of conversation and topic exploration. The heavy and the light sides of vulnerability will be the aim of this season's content production, and they invite you to join them as they ask the hard questions, sit in the light that it brings, together, as they continue on in their never ending quest to explore themselves.
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As we approach (what we HOPE!) is a more normal start to the school year, returning to the office IN PERSON, and juggling this post/mid COVID life, we are bringing ringmaster of the modern woman's world, Jenn Folsom BACK!
Offering many pieces of practical advice on managing the circus of what we call life, Jenn shares her perspective as a working mom of three teenage boys. She gets really honest about the illusiveness of a work life balance, and shows us how we can decide what goes into the rings of our own circus.
Thinking strategically about not being 'mommytracked' at work, getting back into the work force after taking time off, (are you one of the millions of women who have been forced out of the workplace in the last year?), and having the fortitude to ask for what you are worth, Jenn offers invaluable nuggets of wisdom for women as they juggle all.the.things.
Referencing the current crisis, as many of us are all trying to work from home and home school our kids, she says the silver lining is that the whole world is now an audience to the struggle of the working parent. Jenn gets really honest about lowering the expectations for ourselves right now, but also using this time to think and plan strategically for when the world resumes some sort of normality.
Show Notes:
Jennifer Folsom is a dynamic, high-energy leader with a proven record of growing all sizes of professional services firms while growing a family. She is the Vice President of Growth, for ICF Next, where she she serves as a relationship-driven growth leader across a diverse portfolio of digital, communications, and social marketing projects serving the Civilian and Defense sectors.
A human capital expert, she leverages a people-centered approach to drive revenue in organizations from start-up to Big 4. An-oft quoted expert in corporate culture, Jennifer promotes the notion that the multiple in firm valuation starts with the people. Her colleagues cite one of her greatest strengths as the “ability to cut through the noise to solve an issue.”
She's also the mom of 3 sons, 17-year-old twins and a 12-year old-firecracker. Wife. Daughter. Sister. Friend. Yogi. Old lady soccer team player. Amateur farm-to-table chef. Vegetable gardener. Paddleboarder. Bourbon lover. Runner. Reader. Writer. Jennifer loves her work but knows that living your whole b est life is the ultimate key to success.
To Learn More:
Website: jenniferfolsom.net
Email: jenniferfolsom@thefolsoms.net
Instagram: @jennifercfolsom
Facebook: The Ringmaster Project
Twitter: @jenniferfolsom
Medium: @jenn.folsom
LinkedIn: @jenniferfolsom
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Do you over-drink? Do you feel ashamed about your drinking habit? Are you concerned that your habit is turning into a problem, especially when 5 o clock rolls around and you reach for that bottle of Pinot without even really thinking about it anymore?
Jess and Jess have decided its time to have a conversation about their alcohol habits, and so they have invited Dr. Sherry Price on to talk about her Drink Less Lifestyle Program, a program designed for high functioning women who are tired of feeling out of control and not in charge when it comes to their drinking habits. Dr. Sherry's program, based on neuroscience, and rooted in her own personal experience with over-drinking has allowed her the opportunity to work with hundreds of women who have grown weary of the shame and negative effects that come with having too much.
In this episode TTJ(es) get really uncomfortable, slightly emotional and characteristically introspective as they talk with Dr. Sherry about meeting themselves in an alcohol-free space, and relearning how to operate in social capacities as just themselves. Once again, they are called upon to show up and practice what Jess K calls, 'empowered choice' and it turns out, it doesn't seem to be all that hard after all.
Meet Dr. Sherry!
Sherry B. Price, PharmD, MBA, APh, BCPS is a certified life coach, podcaster, pharmacist, and creator of the Drink Less Lifestyle program. She's helped hundreds of women stop the overdrinking habit and create a new relationship with alcohol where they are confident and in control. Her website is www.sherryprice.com where she offers a variety of free resources including her podcast called Drink Less Lifestyle.
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Failure. It's a scary word in general, but when it comes to our kids and letting them 'fail' we are a generation of parents that will go to great lengths to keep that from happening. Maybe it's the way Gen Xers were parented (or not parented) or our need to achieve or just our general fear of upsetting the proverbial apple cart- one thing is clear: our kids are not getting the best end of the stick when it comes to trying, failing, and getting back up again.
In her book, 'The Gift of Failure: How the Best Parents Learn to Let Go so their Children can Succeed." author Jessica Lehay brings so many personal experiences from her classroom, and parenting fails through the pages of this book in order to help parents see how detrimental bailing their children out can really be. The Two Jess(es) bring all their parenting questions to this third Jess and are met with a wealth of experience, wisdom and professional advice.
The book is a must read, and this episode is a must listen, for those parents who may be struggling to empower their children with the gift of independence, competence and confidence in the face of disappointment.
https://www.jessicalahey.com/
Book Link:
https://www.jessicalahey.com/the-gift-of-failure-2
List of Resources mentioned on the show:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/51d5b70de4b07e30233ade36/t/5e4193261be2517dbcdee8d3/1581355814271/Bibliography.pdf
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Summer Sabbatical for WeSTAT continues! This time, we revisit one of our favorite episodes about (ahem) one of our favorite places, VAGINA TOWN with Dr. Gopi Pillai- a pelvic health physical therapist who is incredibly knowledgeable about all things having to do with your vagina, and entertaining.as.hell. :-)
Dr. Gopi takes this episode to a whole new level with an in-depth visit to 'Vagina Town.' She explains then ins and outs (pun intended!) of the often overlooked importance of pelvic health, details the signs and symptoms that could be a result of problems with the pelvis, and well, just has a lot of fun talking about it all. In her words: 'her job is to help people enjoy sex again!' And she LOVES it!
TTJ(es) have a lot of fun with this incredibly informative conversation. Even if the word Vagina, (and dicks) makes you uncomfortable, stick with it- and take a ride to Vagina Town with Dr. Gopi- there is help out there for us all!
Meet Dr. Gopi!
Gopi was born and raised in New York and graduated from Stony Brook University with a Doctorate in Physical Therapy in 2003 at which time her interest in Women's Health began. She eventually moved to Brooklyn, where she started the first Women's Health PT program at a major hospital. Gopi went on to open a private practice in Brooklyn, specializing in male and female pelvic health for 8 years until her family life brought her to Northern Virginia.
She started Blueprint Physical Therapy in January of 2019 and has loved getting to know her new surroundings while providing in home visits around DC, Maryland and Virginia. She is dedicated to continuing education and is a teacher, teaching assistant and lecturer for providers of many disciplines and for the community. She's also a wife and mom of a 4 and 5 year old and just added a pandemic puppy to her family.
http://blueprintphysicaltherapy.com
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All through the month of July, The Two Jess(es) will be re-airing some of their favorite conversations from the very beginning of WeSTAT. This particular conversation on motherhood, the high highs, and the low lows- and everything in between, from season one, is definitely one to revisit.
Considering this original conversation took place prior to the world changing due to COVID, TTJ(es) are happy to report that they have really leaned in to the practice of "Good Enough Mothering" out of necessity, and realize that nothing really happens before it's supposed to- including the lessons learned from our most precious and relentless little life interrupters.
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Jen Griswold is a woman with a mission, and always has been. From the very beginning of her military career, Jen has been committed to sharing the hard won lessons she has learned with those around her- especially military spouses. With the arrival of children, Jen found herself in the role of "support services" while her husband was deployed, and as she looked around at other military spouses around her, she realized there was a bottomless pool of untapped potential that needed to be set free.
So, she started a business. And then another one. And then another one. Today, Jen is an author Mission Entrepreneur: Applying Lessons from Military Life to Create Success in Business Startups and an entrepreneur, and retired military officer with a heart for serving
her community through teaching entrepreneurship and providing marketing resources to
women who want to launch their own businesses.
Today, Jen leads the training, development, and production of a distributed team of over 9,000 entrepreneurs that produces over $20M in skincare sales annually.
Jen Griswold has been featured on the Today Show, in Arlington Magazine, NextGenMilspouse, and on a variety of podcasts about entrepreneurship and performance.
Jen also founded a website and branding development company dedicated to helping women in business grow their impact through marketing. Her company Mission Entrepreneur is launching a social software product in 2021 that will make design and technology accessible to anyone with a social media account.
This is such an inspirational conversation with Jen, Jess and Jess, for any woman who is flirting with the idea of entrepreneurship because of their heart for service, and desire to be successful in any capacity in which they put their hands to.
To find out more about Jen Griswold visit: https://jengriswold.com/
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After the birth of her daughter, Ilsa Manning left the fragrance industry to focus on her family. After a dinner with girlfriends, Ilsa came home one night with the realization that while her time with her daughter was finite, her potential to model what she was capable of as a mother, a woman, an entrepreneur was in fact not finite- but that the possibilities for what her life could become, was INFINITE.
Ilsa candidly shares how she created her fragrance line in 2015- and the outpouring of inspiration and challenges she came up against as an entrepreneur, but the mindset of "just keep going" and how it has turned into this beautiful company that empowers women, donates funds to Girls on the Run.
A little bit of education on how fragrance creation works, and industry insider tips, a whole lotta women supporting women power, and gobs of inspiration- this is a really uplifting episode that will make you look at your perfume differently, and yourself as infinite.
Meet Ilsa!
There are no limits at Ilsa Fragrances. Here, we are about encouraging inspiration and beauty through thoughtful, unique creations that empower you to do and be whatever you dream. And as dreams begin when we are children, Ilsa Fragrances donates 5% of net proceeds to Girls on the Run, a nonprofit for girls' empowerment. After the birth of my first daughter, life handed me the opportunity to combine my knowledge, skills and dreams to create Ilsa Fragrances, a company that encourages women to believe in themselves, no matter what obstacle they face. I lacked this all important self belief until my daughter’s arrival in my life. My desire to be the best person I could be for her gave me the confidence I needed to finally pursue my dreams. By taking action and creating Ilsa Fragrances, I hope to teach my daughter, and her little sister, that their capabilities are infinite and that if they can imagine it, they can do it. So to you, to my daughters, and to myself, I say:
Never mind the sky – there is no limit!
https://www.ilsafragrances.com/
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From dinners and homework to holiday card photos and summer vacations, Nikki DeBartolo and Ben Heldfond have created a tight-knit, enviable family. They work and play well together, from the smallest daily tasks to the biggest life events—and it only took a divorce to get them there. Though their marriage has been over for over a decade, they still share a happy life with each other and their son Asher, along with their spouses and children.
The Two Jess(es) sit down with Nikki and Ben and witness this phenomenon first hand. Two people who are self-aware enough to realize they "got the path of being in love and loving each other mixed up," in itself is incredible, but to hear them speak of their commitment and respect for their son, and how putting him first became the only thing that mattered, is not only inspiring, but an important example for parents everywhere- married or divorced.
To find out more about Ben and Nikki's experience you can go to https://ourhappydivorce.com/ and read their book: https://www.amazon.com/Our-Happy-Divorce-Marriage-Together/dp/1631779974/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Our+Happy+Divorce&qid=1568927277&sr=8-1
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In celebration of the diversity and accomplishments that have taken place in the LGBQTIA community amidst so much historical adversity and discrimination, the Two Jess(es) have the extreme privilege of sitting down with one of the most thought-provoking journalists working today. Hari Ziyad, author of Black Boy Out of Time, candidly shares their experience of growing up Black and queer in America—and in a blended family as one of nineteen children. In BLACK BOY OUT OF TIME, Hari Ziyad recalls their childhood with a Hindu Hare Krsna mother and a Muslim father in Cleveland, Ohio, and navigating the equally complex path toward finding their true self in New York City. Exploring childhood, gender, race, and the trust that is built, broken, and repaired through generations, Ziyad investigates what it means to live beyond the limited narratives Black children are given and challenges the irreconcilable binaries that restrict them.
This is a conversation that really digs into Hari's experience as a young, queer, Black, non-binary human who is brave enough to share their stories and how they show up in the world authentically in order to honor their past, present and future in a way that advocates, educates and celebrates.
Meet Hari:
Hari Ziyad is a screenwriter, the bestselling author of Black Boy Out of Time (Little A, 2021) and the Editor-in-Chief of RaceBaitr. They received their BFA from New York University, where they concentrated in Film and Television and Psychology. Their work is informed by their passion for storytelling, and wrestling with identity as a Cleveland, Ohio-born Black, non-binary child of Muslim and Hindu parents.
They are a 2021 Lambda Literary Fellow, and their writing has been featured in Gawker, Out, The Guardian, Huffington Post, Ebony, Mic, Paste Magazine,AFROPUNK, in the peer-reviewed academic journal Critical Ethnic Studies, and in the anthology co–edited by Michael Dumas, Ashley Woodson and Carl Grant entitled The Future is Black: Afropessimism, Fugitivity and Radical Hope in Education, among other publications.
They are also a script consultant on the drama series David Makes Man (OWN), a columnist (and the former Managing Editor) of Black Youth Project, and an Assistant Editor of Vinyl Poetry & Prose.
https://www.hariziyad.com/
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100 Episodes.
100 freaking episodes.
The Two Jess(es) are here, for the ONE HUNDREDTH TIME, and bringing one of their most joyful WeSTATers and dear friend, Joey Klei on, to co-host right along with them. Amidst the conversations between TTJ(es) and Joey, past guests from We Should Talk About That, as well as listeners from the WeSTAT community, share their contributions of what bring them JOY.
The conversation goes from hard back books to eating in restaurants, air fryers, and singing Mr. Rogers songs. It is clear that what brings us all joy, is the simple things like reheating pizza and the feeling of cool sheets on a hot evening!
This episode is not only a celebration, but marks the accomplishment of TTJ(es) and sticking to the mission of creating a space for authentic conversation so that others might feel less isolated and alone.
For more reference on past guests that have contributed to this episode, check out the following WeSTAT episodes:
- Rachel Lankester: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/7448023
- Gia Hassan: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/7586719
- Andrea Driessen: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/7732705
- Cherie Craft: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/8088329
- Sherrie Price: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/7114633
- Dr. Bat Sheva Marcus: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/8046730
- Shauna Ahern: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/5316610
- Dr. Rachel Orscheln: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/4448477
- Annette Brechbill: https://www.buzzsprout.com/768062/8271296
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Betty Hart lives a life of intention. And that intention is what led her down the exploratory road of investigating why we, as a culture, cancel the people we love and who have had a positive impact on our lives, because they espouse something we don't agree, or may hurt us on a spiritual level.
Betty proposes that compassion for those we love, and who love us back, deconstructs the practice of cancel culture, and allows for space to suffer along side someone, on their good days and bad days- allowing us an opportunity to plant seeds of love, through curiosity, and a willingness to ask questions in order to get a clearer context of what is said, or the message that is displayed.
Clearly, Betty has hit a nerve with her ideas, as her TED talk has been viewed over 1 million times. This is a challenging conversation that makes room for the real reason for communication- listening to understand, and allowing everyone the opportunity to choose their own path.
Betty advocates for giving space, loving, and allowing ourselves the opportunity to work and be with those who believe differently, live differently, speak differently than us.
Betty also offers an inside look into how the arts were devastated by the pandemic, and brings perspective to the life of an artist and the shut down for so many on a heart, soul and financial level.
Meet Betty!
Betty is a theatre artist whose mission is to help create space for necessary conversations. Through acting, directing and facilitating, Betty strives to be a change agent and a force for positivity, creativity, and collaboration.
In 2020, Betty had the opportunity to direct the Henry nominated The Scottsboro Boys for Vintage Theatre. She also directed Josh Kroenig’s Vroom Vroom for Local Lab, which audiences never saw due to the theatre wide shut down. Betty performed in Stories on Stage “Don’t look away: Black stories matter”.
In the “before” Betty performed in Barnum at the Fine Arts Center, Caroline, or Change at the Aurora Fox, Richard III and You Can’t Take it with you at the Colorado Shakespeare Festival, the immersive outdoor show Rausch with the Catamounts, and had the great privilege of being in The Mountaintop at the Arvada Center in 2016.
In 2021, Betty directed To the Moon by Beth Kander, a powerful domestic violence awareness play for Creede Repertory Theatre and has just completed directing a devised theatrical film for the University of Northern Colorado called 2020 Speaks, which will be streamed in late April.
Instagram: @actorbetty
Check out Betty's TED talk @ https://www.ted.com/talks/betty_hart_how_compassion_could_save_your_strained_relationships?language=en
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Barnyard Language Alert!!! Listen without little ears present :-)
Jess and Jess laugh til they pee their pants with these two podcasters, Jaimie Kelton and Robin Hopkins, co-hosts of "If These Ovaries Could Talk."
Lesbians who have had to take a non-traditional approach to building their families, they decided it was high time to start talking about and sharing stories that represent the LGBTQ community and the highs and lows of baby making, family building, instilling pride in their kids about their family constellation, and everything in between.
A conversation about podcasting, the pandemic and what it is to speak your truth as a mom, a podcaster, just a human being, this conversation is entertaining as well as enlightening.
For more hillariousness, check out "If These Ovaries Could Talk" wherever you get your podcasts!
Meet Jaimie and Robin!
*Jaimie Kelton is an actor, singer, dancer, voice over artist and podcaster based in New York City. She has over 17 years of experience performing on stages in NYC, as well as in Regional Theaters, on National tours, and for a few dreamlike years, singing and tanning on a cruise ship. She is a Helen Hayes Award Recipient. Her voice can be heard in various forms on Disney’s hit cartoon, The Octonauts, SYFY’sHAPPY!, and Amazon’s soon to be aired, Bug Diaries. She co-hosts the podcast If These Ovaries Could Talk, where she chats with non-traditional families about making babies when making babies doesn’t come naturally. She lives with her wife, two children and a tiny dog in Manhattan.
For her day job, Robin is an Executive Producer of "Amy Schumer Presents: 3 Girls, 1 Keith" the original podcast on Spotify. But, Robin is also an actor, writer and producer who began her career as a stand-up comic. She is a frequent contributor to Medium and Huff Po with essays featured in the Parents and Queer Voices sections. Robin is also an accomplished playwright. Her one-woman show, In Search of Tulla Berman debuted to sold-out crowds in San Francisco and enjoyed subsequent runs in Winnipeg, Canada, the Pelican Theatre in New York City, and ended with a month-long run at the Ars Nova Theatre. Her Film &TV credits include Boardwalk Empire, Louie and Hindsight and some really great “big hands acting” on Celebrity Ghost Stories and Monsters Inside Me. Most recently, Robin merged all of her creative worlds producing, writing and acting in the comedic digital short series Stupid Michelle & Dumb Robin.*
https://www.ovariestalk.com/
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When Dani Sauter decided to take the plunge and leave a government contracting job for a marketing startup, she was challenged creatively and professionally, in ways she hadn't anticipated. She discovered getting up and putting on a red lip and something she felt good in, was the key to opening up the door to her creativity and the start of her unbelievably popular blog and instagram account Blonde In the District (@blonde_inthedistrict).
In this episode, The Two Jess(es) continue on in their theme of JOY for the month of May, with a conversation with Dani about what life is like as a plus sized model and social media influencer. Dani shares the need for more size inclusivity in boutiques and local stores, and how to find your sense of self through style, as well as a general encouragements on wearing what you feel best in- no rules to follow!
To find out more about the awesome work Dani is doing, check her out at https://www.blondeinthedistrict.com/ or on IG @blonde_inthedistrict.
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It's been a YEAR. Or more, but who's counting? The Two Jess(es) began this podcasting adventure in January of 2020, bright eyed and ready to take the world by storm...And then it ALL CHANGED. Throughout a global pandemic, job loss, homeschooling and just the usual stuff of trying to survive, Jess and Jess have continued to research, read, reach out, connect, hold space for authentic conversation and have a little bit of fun tossed in! And THEY ARE PROUD. Proud of their accomplishments of consistency, commitment to this project, to the WeSTAT Community...and to each other, and they are here to celebrate!
The month of May is going to be all JOY! While this episode is about what TTJ(es) find joy in, they would like to hear from you! If you would like to add your contribution to the Memorial Day episode, please send a message of voice note to info@westatpod.com or DM them on IG @westatpod.
We are so glad you are here!
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When Clair Gill realized there was a foundation set up to 'Save the Bats' but nothing out there to address the needs of menopausal women, she decided it was completely unacceptable, and maybe, there was room for both! Unwilling to go down the menopause rabbit hole quietly, Claire is on a mission to lift the shame and taboo that come with growing older as a woman in this age obsessed society. As she looked for peer to peer support, she realized the only organizations really set up to address menopause were geared toward clinicians (mostly men, who were not experiencing menopause anyway!) so she has turned it on it's head.
This is a fired up conversation about what women need and want as they move into the second half of their life. The need for resources and support that have been addressed by Claire and her team, and are now available because of the National Menopause Foundation is an invaluable contribution that must be acknowledged. More than anything, this is just a feel good message about all the possibilities that are available to women as they grow fabulously older- thanks to women who are determined to make it the best time of their lives, and yours!
Meet Claire!
After a 20+ year career in public relations and marketing for national nonprofits and
public relations firms with Fortune 500 clients, Claire Gill founded the National
Menopause Foundation in September 2019. While serving as Chief Mission Officer for a
health-based nonprofit, Ms. Gill realized there was no national nonprofit dedicated
solely to women’s journey to and through menopause, so she set out to create one. The
National Menopause Foundation’s mission is create a positive change in how people
perceive, understand and experience menopause through education, peer-to-peer
support, activism, and research.
Through its website, The Positive Pause podcast, The Hot Flash electronic newsletter,
and its online community, called The Menopause Metamorphosis, the National
Menopause Foundation seeks to bring about a world where women thrive at every
stage of their lives and have access to the information and networks that ensure
menopause is a positive, inspiring and empowering time in every woman’s life.
Ms. Gill also serves as the Chief Executive Officer of the National Osteoporosis
Foundation, which has a strategic alliance with the National Menopause Foundation.
Ms. Gill is a graduate of Syracuse University’s Newhouse School. She is a member of Les
Dames d’Escoffier International (LDEI), a philanthropic organization supporting women
in the food, beverage and hospitality industries. She and her family reside in Lorton, VA.For more information, visit: https://nationalmenopausefoundation.org/ and don't forget to subscribe to The Positive Pause Podcast at: https://nationalmenopausefoundation.org/podcast-2/
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In this episode, Jess and Jess sit down for a very honest and difficult conversation with Rebecca McWilliams and Wendy Freedman, both avid supporters and advocates as well as members of the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee. Together, they introduce Nikki Addimando, a mother of two, teacher, respected community member, and domestic violence survivor. In 2017, Nikki was forced to protect herself and her children's lives, by killing her abuser, Chris Grover. In February 2020, Nikki was sentenced to 19 years to life for the killing of her abuser, and the Community Defense Committee believes Nikki is a victim of the criminal justice system, and will not accept this result of Nikki protecting her own life, as well as that of her children's.
It's not shocking that 67% of women sent to prison in 2005 for killing someone close to them were abused by the victim of their crime (NYS Department of Corrections and Community Supervision). Rebecca and Wendy share their expertise and advocacy work around not just Nikki's case, but also for every woman who is being held hostage by their abuser, and sees the only way out is to defend themselves in whatever manner possible. By raising awareness about Nikki and the horrific abuse she survived, the Committee aims to keep other victims of domestic violence from being criminalized by the courts, but more than that, they work tirelessly to continue advocating on behalf of Nikki, so that she may be justly returned home to live in safety with her two children.
On April 22, 2021, Nicole Addimando will stand before a judge for her appeal hearing and the hope and prayer is that Nikki's sentence will be overturned. We Stand With Nikki and other criminalized survivors, that justice indeed will be served, and Nikki will no longer be criminalized for her right to survive, and that she will be rightfully returned to the arms of her two children, so that she may take her place as a pillar of strength and resilience in her community, once again.
For more information about We Stand With Nikki and the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee, as well as a complete resource list for organizations and articles about Nikki and the issue around criminalizing survivors, go to: https://westandwithnikki.com/
*** For more in depth information on Nikkis case and the overall issue of criminalized survival keep an eye out for Justine Vanderluen's upcoming podcast "Believe Her" presented by Lemonada in association with Speigel and Grau, set to be released Fall of 2021.
Meet Wendy:
Wendy Freedman is a clinical psychologist and the director of the Vassar College Counseling Service. Deep affection and love for her family, friends and community has led to a passion for social justice, and a commitment to partner with fellow allies to try to contribute to positive change. Wendy has been honored to be a member of the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee for over 3 years and is privileged to work with an incredible group of advocates to fight for Nikki and all criminalized survivors.
Meet Rebecca:
Rebecca McWilliams is the Executive Director of Girls on the Run Birmingham in Birmingham Alabama. She is a native of Baltimore, MD and received her BA in Public Communications from American University. She is passionate about empowering women and girls, and through her work advocating for Nikki Addimando, has become increasingly aware of our troubled criminal justice and prison systems and the deep inequities that exist within those systems. She is a proud member of the Nicole Addimando Community Defense Committee.
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April is Sexual Violence Awareness Month, and so The Two Jess(es) think it's time for a conversation about Women's safety and how it is absolutely NOT a woman's issue, it's a human right's issue, and Meredith Moore of Greylake Training Solutions is here to educate us all on this crucial issue. And her education approach is for EVERYONE. She works to arm women with situational awareness and intuition skills that will empower them to protect themselves in a way that enables them detect subtle cues that help them assess behaviors and situations, ultimately trusting their intuition.
This is an episode every person should make time to listen to. And while the focus is on women's safety, this conversation is a deep dive into how we trust our intuition, how we get to really know it- and Jess B shares a very personal story about her experience of shutting off her intuition and how it changed her life.
To Register for Meredith's Awareness Training click here and use the code WESTAT2021 for 25% off: https://academy.globalguardian.com/courses/womens-safety-awareness
Meet Meredith!
Meredith Moore, Founder and CEO of Greylake Training Solutions, has been teaching women's security awareness training for eight years. Meredith led women's security programs in her previous positions in the corporate security departments at the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, and through her consulting firm, which she founded in 2018. She was also a member of the United Nation's working group on women's security awareness training and has personally taught over 1000 women safety skills
throughout her career, and she's just getting started. At the end of this month, Greylake is partnering with Global Guardian to launch an online women's security awareness training.
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Another part of Jess B's life is that as a working professional speaker. She has spent the last several years traveling the country working the speaker's circuit, and through her work, she has had the opportunity to create so many new connections, and the following conversation is a result of those relationships.
Annette Brechbill, founder of Brechbill Group Speaker Management and
Consultancy, shares her unique working collaboration with fellow speaker management agent, Mirjana Novkovic about pushing each other out of their comfort zones and asking for what they are worth. Through the work they do together, and separately, they can attest to their experience of helping each other, and supporting one another and using it as their superpower to build their business into a flourishing, thriving company that helps speakers share their vital stories- because words matter, and stories will change the world.
A bit about the business of the speaker's world, but mostly about what it means to be a woman in the working world, and what it could look like to combine forces, this episode is truly inspiring for women who are looking for a positive example of working with other women, supporting other women, going into business with other women. Practical advice from these two power house women on how to coordinate and ultimately succeed!
Meet Annette!
Annette Brechbill is a Keynote Speakers Agent, Virtual Event Content Creator, TEDx Executive Producer, and member of the International Association of Speakers Bureaus (IASB.)
Like many military spouses, Annette has an eclectic background. Originally from Australia, she has lived in 6 countries and visited 60 more. Annette has worked wholesale travel agent in Australia, a flight attendant in Bahrain, and as a diplomat at US Embassy London.
Annette’s passion for the power of storytelling lead her to join Washington Speakers Bureau as a Speaker Relationship Manager. There she oversaw a portfolio of 40 Exclusive speakers who generated 25 million dollars in revenue annually. Her portfolio included names such as Madeline Albright, Arianna Huffington, and former British Prime Minister, David Cameron, and your very own Jessica Buchanan!
Annette’s company, Brechbill Group Speaker Management and Consultancy, leverages skills and knowledge she gained by closing deals for world leaders to share the wisdom of her speakers with organizations across the globe.
On the consultancy side of her work, she combines forces with the amazing Mirjana Novkovic to create video and written marketing assets that help speakers reach their customers and close more deals.
Annette is mumma to 3 young children and Navy wife. She is a lover of good wine, trashy tv, and 90’s music.
Meet Mirjana!
Mirjana Novkovic brings more than 20 years of experience within the global speaking industry. She is the Founder and Principal of Evoke Invoke Speaker Consultancy, working with global speakers who Evoke Emotion and Invoke Action.
Mirjana is a leading relationship manager focused on developing and championing her speaker clients by being deeply committed and emotionally invested in their message and purpose and by positioning them within the speaker bureau marketplace,
Mirjana previously spent 16 years with the Harry Walker Agency (HWA) in New York, where she held primary responsibilities within their Client Relations division as a liaison between some of the world’s leading speakers and Fortune 100 clients and she served as Vice President of Marketing for over 12 years. During her time at HWA, Mirjana oversaw the marketing strategies for more than 150 iconic exclusive speakers, including many of the most globally sought-after and high-profile World Leaders, C-suite E
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Oh, it's just a little white lie. No harm, no foul....right?
In this episode, The Two Jess(es) sit down for a fascinating (and inconclusive) conversation with author of Would I Lie To You?, Judi Ketteler. With authentic curiosity, and in the spirit of self-exploration, Judi makes a case, through her writing, and this conversation, for setting intention to check in with those little white lies.
What motivates us to not tell the entire truth? Is it for the sake of the other person's feelings or safety? Or is it for ours? Is it because we don't want to expend the mental energy it might take to address the truths that we swat at like little fruit flies, demanding us to face...the truth about ourselves or others?
Jess B confesses she lies. A lot. Especially on her Noom app. Jess K (as always) poses some really great questions about how we might move from dishonesty to total honesty with the person that matters the most: ourselves.
Lots of great thought provoking takeaways on this episode!
Meet Judi!
Judi Ketteler has been writing stories since she was old enough to hold a pencil. She got her professional start working as a copywriter for a small agency, but has been a full-time freelance writer since 2002. An award-winning essayist, she has contributed to dozens of publications, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Los Angeles Magazine, TIME, Scientific American, Good Housekeeping, Runner’s World, and others. She is also the author of two books about sewing. Judi has a B.A. in English from Northern Kentucky University, and an M.A. in English from Miami University of Ohio. She lives in Cincinnati with her husband and two children, where she enjoys running, yoga, and doing flips on the trampoline.
Would I Lie To You? The Amazing Power of Being Honest in a World That Lies.
https://www.amazon.com/Would-Lie-You-Amazing-Honest/dp/0806540087
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This week's episode is a little different from the usual, but it is oh, so , fun! The Two Jess(es) sit down for an entertaining conversation about shopping and all the products you didn't know you needed (and most of them under $20!) with "Gee Thanks, Just Bought It!" podcast host, Caroline Moss.
Caroline shares her inspiration for starting a podcast that serves to simplify the shopping experience by inviting guests on to share a product that they actually love and would recommend. No "Goop" priced products on this podcast- think shopping guides for all the things you didn't know you needed, under 20 bucks!
In addition to simplifying the shopping experience for consumers who are going to shop anyway, Caroline has become quite the benefactor of $2 contributions to various mutual aid organizations throughout the United States. To date, "Geezers" have donated over $80,000 since July, to those who are most in need.
If you are into hot tubs, CBD bath bombs and kids books- you will really enjoy this episode!
Meet Caroline!
Author (and shopping expert) Caroline Moss knows where to find all the life-changing under-the-radar products you didn’t think you needed — like hand warmers that double as phone chargers, foot hammocks, and full-face ice masks. If she doesn’t, she knows who to call.
Each Friday she and a savvy guest give you the real deal on their favorite recent purchases and reveal where you can find them too. Every Thursday, Geezers chip in $2 toward a big pot that goes to a different non-profit or mutual aid fund. So far they’ve donated $50,000. Because shopping for yourself isn’t that much fun if you’re not helping others along the way.
Caroline has written five books (HEY LADIES!, and the “Work It, Girl!” kids books), and is a freelance producer and writer. She lived in Brooklyn for ten years before moving to Los Angeles with her husband and cats Kevin and Steve.
To find out more, visit: https://www.geethanksjustboughtit.com/gtjbi and you can find Caroline's show, "Gee Thanks, Just Bought It" wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Do you know where your money is coming from? How much is coming in and how much is going out? Who is does your taxes? When is your mortgage due? Is your name on the title of your home?
The Two Jess(es) sit down with Monica O'Neill, International Investment Executive, who is passionate about making sure women and girls are literate and well versed in the area of finances. Monica believes knowledge is power, especially when it comes to your money. In this episode, Jess and Jess get practical tips on how to ensure they stay well informed on their personal finances, how to prepare for the inevitable rainy day ahead, and more than anything, they connect over the empowerment of financial independence, whether you are bringing in $1 or $1 million.
Meet Monica!
*Ms O’Neill is the CEO of ENSO Advisors LLC, a comprehensive
equity capital, marketing and investment product development consultancy she founded in
2015. ENSO advises on the expansion of companies’ client base and investment products,
improvement of marketing and compliance, augmentation of their international profile, and
preparation for programmatic or equity capital campaigns. Her clients are global and
collectively manage over $11 Billion in AUM.
She is an international investment executive with over 30 years’ experience in fundraising,
global marketing and market entry, public/private partnerships, risk management and
compliance. She has a proven track record of working at top executive levels within leading
global organizations and Fortune 500 companies, especially private equity real estate firms.
She is comfortable navigating countries and challenges to consistently deliver bottom line
results.
Ms O’Neill was a founding partner of the award-winning and industry-leading private equity real
estate investment firm Tristan Capital Partners, London, UK, which manages over €9 Billion
(AUM) for US and EMEA clients. In 2010, she launched Tristan’s brand capitalizing on her
strong relationships with global institutional clients and the international media. She was a
managing member of the team that led the growth of the firm from six to 100 employees in just
six years and remains today an active senior advisor with Tristan consulting on a range of
business development issues.
Ms O’Neill was integral to the managed lift out of Tristan from real estate investment manager
AEW Europe, where the firm’s founding partners originated from, and brought €1.5 billion in
client capital to the new company.
At AEW she led all business development efforts and served on the Global Business Policy
Group, European Management Committee, and Executive Business Officers Committee. She
was also an active member of the compliance, risk management and leadership groups of
AEW. Ms O’Neill led a team of 270 AEW Europe staff in eight offices across Europe.
In her earlier Washington, DC years. Ms O’Neill led the business development team for
international multi-manager, Strategic Investment Group founded by Hilda Ochoa
headquartered in Arlington, VA.
She was the Managing Partner of The Greater Washington Initiative, the public/private
partnership formed to promote the Greater Washington region for inbound corporate
investment.*
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Just a fun little wrap up to end an incredibly inspiring week of celebrating women! The Two Jess(es) give a rundown on the week's episodes, their thoughts (and feelings, of course!) around the interesting women who have been highlighted:
Monday: Cherie Craft of Smart from the Start
Tuesday: Holly Seibold of BRAWS (Bringing Resources to Aid Women's Shelters)
Wednesday: Jonquilyn Hill of WAMA and host of Through The Cracks
Thursday: Darcy Hubbard of CASA
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As of 2018, there were approximately 437,283 children in foster care, nationwide. That is a lot of children who may not have someone to advocate on their behalf in court.
Our fourth, and final interview highlighting extraordinary women who are making the world a better place, this is grass roots work at it's most fundamental practice.
Court Appointed Special Advocates originated in Seattle, Washington where, in 1977, a Superior Court Judge, David Soukup, developed a pilot program for volunteer advocates, named Court Appointed Special Advocates, or CASA volunteers, who would be trained to serve as the “eyes and ears” of the judge into the environments and circumstances of abused and neglected children and to serve as the voice for each child in Court.
In this episode, The Two Jess(es) sit down for a REAL conversation with Fairfax County, Virginia CASA Executive Director, Darcy Hubbard about the life changing work a committed volunteer can make in a child's life who has been passed through the system.
An informative episode about the possibilities of impacting at risk youth through the practice of advocacy and collaboration.
For more information about CASA and volunteering please visit:
https://www.fairfaxcasa.org/
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In our third episode in this series that celebrates the incredible work women are doing for International Women's Week, The Two Jess(es) sit down for a conversation with investigative reporter and NPR's Executive Producer, Jonquilyn Hill about her new podcast Through the Cracks. WAMU's new series investigates the disappearance of 8-year-old Relisha Rudd, who disappeared from a DC homeless shelter in 2014.
Through her work, Jonquilyn continues to bring dignity to the forefront as she asks the really difficult, and often uncomfortable, questions related to class that divide a city like Washington DC. She addresses the underlying issues that have formed the infrastructures that allow people, children like Ralisha, fall through the cracks.
Yet another inspiring woman who is asking hard questions, waiting patiently for answers, and continues to make disenfranchised voices heard as she continues to tell stories that need to be told, must be witnessed, and demand to be understood, in order to make lasting change for those in our communities who are the deepest in need.
Meet Jonquilyn Hill!
Jonquilyn Hill is host of the investigative podcast Through The Cracks from WAMU and PRX. She's also a senior producer for NPR's weekday news-talk show 1A, and was on the team that helped launch the show. Before joining WAMU, she worked on NPR’s 2016 Elections Desk.
Jonquilyn grew up in Kansas, Missouri, and attended high school in New Mexico, where she volunteered at NPR member station KUNM. She graduated from Howard University where she majored in journalism and minored in political science.
Prior to producing public radio, she worked at NBC’s Washington Bureau and for NY1. She's called D.C. home for over a decade.Listen to Through The Cracks here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/through-the-cracks/id1545174922
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For this second episode in the We Should Talk About Women Celebration, The Two Jess(es) sit down with Holly Seibold, founder and CEO of the non-profit organization BRAWS (Bringing Resources to Aid Women's Shelters). BRAWS provides pads, tampons, bras and underwear to shelters, schools, prisons, and food pantries to women who may need them. But more than feminine hygiene products, Holly and her team provides women with dignity around a subject that still makes people so uncomfortable. Yet it is one of the simplest problems to solve.
Holly educates Jess and Jess on the issues around Period Poverty and Menstrual Equity- something that really needs to be spotlighted in the COVID times we are living in right now. Holly's commitment and passion for equal rights for women who menstruate is inspiring and motivating, and exactly the kind of spirit that IS what the international woman is all about.
Meet Holly Siebold!
*Holly Seibold is the Founder and Executive Director of BRAWS: Bringing Resources to Aid Women's Shelters. In partnership with generous individuals, foundations, and businesses in the community, Holly and her team of dedicated staff and volunteers have distributed over two million period products and undergarments to women and girls in crisis. In a little more than five years, Holly has built one of the most recognized local nonprofit organizations in the DC region.
Holly began her career in the nonprofit sector before becoming an educator in the public school system. Transitioning from the classroom to a small business owner in 2010, Holly launched a successful educational firm, offering STEM consulting services and educational programs to clients.
Holly is a fierce advocate for women's rights, testifying in Washington, DC and Richmond in favor of the repeal of the tampon tax and an increased access to menstrual supplies for all girls and women in shelters, schools, jails, and prisons. Holly’s advocacy led to the successful passage of DC Law 21-201 (The Feminine Hygiene and Diapers Sales Tax Exemption Amendment Act of 2016), the 2019 Virginia Senate Bill 1715 (The Dignity Act), and the 2020 Virginia House Bill 405 - mandating menstrual supplies in school bathrooms. Holly also is a co-founder of the Virginia Menstrual Equity Coalition (VMEC), a statewide coalition that mobilizes supporters to collectively take action on the injustice of menstrual inequity. As a result of these efforts and more, Virginia’s General Assembly passed the 2018 House Bill 83 unanimously, requiring correctional facilities to provide menstrual supplies on demand and at no charge to inmates. Holly describes the evolution of this bill in her published piece, “Free to Bleed: Virginia House Bill 83 and the Dignity of Menstruating Inmates,” in Volume 22 of the University of Richmond’s Public Interest Law Review.
Exposing issues that much too often remain in the dark, Holly has educated the public on solutions to problems that result from inequity. She has participated in several prominent panels, including Netroots Nation 2018, “Menstrual Equity: Practical Action to Public Policy” and Congresswoman Grace Meng (D-NY), “The Case for Menstrual Equity: How Policies Surrounding Menstruation Affect Outcomes for Women.” She has also presented a TedX Talk on this very issue. Holly has also been featured in multiple national and local media outlets, but most notably in the Washington Post article, "The Once-Whispered Topic of Women's Menstruation Now Has Political Cachet."
Holly proudly serves as a*
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Happy International Women's Day from The Two Jess(es)!
In celebration of all the incredible women in the WeSTAT community, our gift to you is the release of one episode every day this week.
Jess and Jess have put together an inspiring line up of women who are making a difference in the world around them by practicing the values and virtues of THE INTERNATIONAL WOMAN (which include):
- Justice
- Dignity
- Hope
- Equality
- Collaboration
- Tenacity
- Appreciation
- Respect
- Empathy
- Forgiveness
Today we celebrate community support through our conversation with Cherie Craft, CEO and Founder of Smart from the Start, a non-profit with programs running in inner city Boston and DC. Cherie shares their grassroots approach to setting up and living, breathing, working, in the communities that they are working to serve. The foundation of supporting the parents in order to increase a child's chances of life long success is simple yet profound in the way it works to change families perspectives of themselves, their capabilities and what it means to be a part of a community.
This is a moving conversation that honors women in their strength, commitment and innovation. And is the perfect way to kick off this momentous week!
https://smartfromthestart.org/
Meet Cherie Craft:
Cherie Craft is a native of inner city Boston, where she’s raised 5 children. She’s dedicated her life to educating children and empowering families living in challenging situations. Having studied Sociology and Counseling Psychology, she began her career in Pediatrics at Boston City Hospital and is now the Founder/CEO and Executive Director of Smart from the Start, a community engagement and family support organization that promotes the healthy development of young children and families. Additionally, for 22 years Ms. Craft has served as senior faculty with the National Institute for Family Centered Care, and after recently stepping down from the Community Board of Children’s Hospital Boston, Ms. Craft was appointed to the Maternal Mortality Review Committee and Maternal Child Health Council of DC. Ms. Craft engages in national and international speaking engagements and is a member of the NAACP, Urban League, and International Society for the Prevention of Child Abuse, among other organizations.
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LADIES. Pop in some ear buds, and get comfy. Dr. Bat Sheva is about to blow your sex socks off, and we're not being metaphorical here!
Dr. Bat Sheva, Clinical Director of Maze Women's Sexual Health, breaks it down- why you might not want to be having sex right now- and her newly released book Sex Points: Reclaim your Sex Life with a Multi-Point System has the answers to getting you back into bed! The Two Jess(es) have (as always) the most fun, talking about sex, vibrators, the M word, and the BIG OOO (and so much more!) Dr. Marcus is here to answer your questions, and what she can't answer in this hour, she most certainly will in her book as she outlines her multi point system for identifying the areas that need help.
With comic relief and an incredible wealth of knowledge and experience, Dr. Bat Sheva blows the lid off stigma associated with not wanting to have sex, painful sex, sex for one, and normalizes the conversation. Her message, while lively and often times hilarious, is really one of hope. If you are a woman, or identify as one, and have lost your sex drive, your libido is lacking, or you can't turn the To-Do list off in your mind....well, that is something we really think we should be talking about!
Meet Dr. Bat Sheva Marcus!
DR. BAT SHEVA MARCUS, LCSW, MPH, PHD, CLINICAL DIRECTOR of MAZE Women's Sexual Health CenterDr. Bat Sheva Marcus is a certified sex therapist and the author of Sex Points: Reclaim Your Sex Life with the Revolutionary Point System. Dr. Marcus is the Clinical Director of Maze Women’s Sexual Health, the largest independent sexual health center in the country. She wrote her dissertation on women and vibrator use while earning her Doctor of Philosophy in human sexuality from the Institute of Advanced Study of Human Sexuality. She also has a Master’s in public health from the same institution. She is a licensed social worker with a Master’s degree from Columbia University.
Dr. Marcus has worked as the executive director of not-for-profit institutions and corporations, medical practices and laboratories. In addition to being featured in a NY Times article, she is a frequent guest on radio, podcasts and has lectured both nationally and overseas on a wide variety of women’s issues.
Read Dr. Bat Sheva Marcus’ PhD Dissertation: Changes in a Woman’s Sexual Experience and Expectations Following the Introduction of Electric Vibrator Assistance
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Anyone out there considering a divorce (or who knows someone who is) needs to listen to this episode with Alexandria, VA local family law attorney, Donne Colton.
In this episode, Donne walks The Two Jess(es) through the intricacies of working through the, often times, devastating experience of divorce, and offers another alternative: an opportunity for collaboration. For those who are at the crossroads of whether to stay, or go, there are so many fears, questions and feelings to sift through. Donne explains how a team of professionals, those trained in mediation, financial literacy and mental health can enable a couple an alternative to litigation, potentially providing a softer landing for the rock bottom experience of divorce.
Donne brings his heart and soul to his practice and handles his clients with the dignity and care they deserve. He believes in the transformational work he offers to his clients, and after listening to this episode, you might too.
Meet Donne!
Donne Colton has been in private practice from 1986-present. He was an instructor for the Virginia Judicial System at the Key Bridge Therapy and Mediation Center, 1996-1997. Formerly certified as a Family Mediator by the Supreme Court of Virginia, he is a member of the following collaborative professional organizations:
- Collaborative Professionals of Northern Virginia (CPNV) ;
- Virginia Collaborative Professionals(VaCP) ;
- International Academy of Collaborative Professionals (IACP).
To find out more about Donne and his work: http://www.lawdmc.com/profiles.html
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It is estimated that over 40 million Americans, and one billion people worldwide suffer from migraine disease. What is migraine disease? And how serious is it? Here to explain from their own personal experiences, this migraine advocate Eileen Brewer and Dr. Joanna Kempner shine a huge spotlight on this terribly common and often debilitating disease.
In this episode, The Two Jess(es) talk with these two incredibly resilient women who have dedicated their lives, work and research to advocate on behalf of themselves and the millions that suffer along with them. The ramifications of living with chronic illness are indeed serious, the frustrations that come with not being taken seriously, and the often debated topic of addiction to drugs as opposed to dependence to find some relief. Also, a lot of talk about psychedelics in this one!
If you, or someone you know and love is suffering from migraine, or any other chronic illness, this episode is packed full of useful information and a feast for your thoughts.
Meet Eileen Brewer!
Eileen is an event coordinator and advocate for those living with headache diseases. She is the President of Clusterbusters, the Director of Special Events for the Coalition for Headache and Migraine Patients, a member of the National Headache Foundation’s Patient Leadership Council, and is a moderator for Move Against Migraine.
As a wife and mother of two, Mrs. Brewer balances her life in the headache community with various personal commitments, including sitting as the President of a preschool, leading a Girl Scout troop, and managing several real estate investment properties. Eileen has devoted herself over the years to many volunteer opportunities including local and national political initiatives, and event planning and advocacy for local charities.Meet Dr. Joanna Kempner!
I am an Associate Professor of Sociology at Rutgers University where I research, teach, and speak about the relationship between science, medicine, and justice, and the political suppression of science and resistance movements that fight politically motivated ignorance.
In 2014, I wrote the award-winning book Not Tonight: Migraine and the Politics of Gender and Health (Chicago). My work strives to give voice to those who are too often silenced, which means that much of my research focuses on questions that most people rarely think about: Whose pain matters? Why are there so few effective treatments for pain? What are the challenges of living a life in pain?
Over the years, I’ve found that ignorance drives too many decisions about science and health. So I’ve also worked at understanding how and why some topics are never studied, and how certain “forbidden” subjects can reemerge as viable scientific investigations. To this end, I am currently writing a book about the underground research networks responsible for bringing psychedelics back to medicine. You can read more about my work here.For more information about various organizations mentioned in this episode:
Cluster Busters: https://clusterbusters.org/
Coalition for Headache and Migraine: https://headachemigraine.org/
https://www.joannakempner.com/
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Why do we wait to tell the people we love the most how much they mean to us, until they are gone? In her 2019 TEDx Seattle talk (that immediately went viral) Andrea Driessen, addresses this cultural norm, and challenges it with her own experience as a hospice volunteer. After sitting with people who are making the transition from this life to the next, Andrea started thinking about how much more meaningful it would be if we shared with people how much we love them, and what an impact they have made on our lives, before they were gone.
In this conversation, TTJ(es) talk with Andrea about the gift of sharing our hearts with people who mean so much to us, before they it's too late. You will feel inspired to write your own Grace Notes after listening to this episode.
Meet Andrea!
Andrea (AN dree ah) Driessen (DREE sen)
She’s dedicated her career to helping people and organizations become more effective and capable. And Andrea has owned a speakers’ bureau, No More Boring Meetings, for over 20 years.
As a hospice volunteer, Andrea understands the profound power of open and caring communication between those who are dying and their loved ones. Through it all, she’s witnessed the life-changing effects that writing what she calls Gracenotes has on anyone. Gracenotes are definitely something that Andrea believes we should talk about.
Her latest initiative is A Greater Legacy, via which Andrea custom - designs virtual celebrations of life for families who have lost a loved one.
https://www.grace-notes.org/
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Tough Topic Alert
February 1-7, 2021 is Sexual Abuse and Sexual Violence Awareness Week. Child Protective Services substantiates a case of childhood sexual abuse Every NINE MINUTES (9)- and those are just the cases that are reported. We don't talk about it often, loudly, or nearly enough.
To raise awareness on this critical issue, The Two Jess(es) sit down with Gia Hasan, creator of Urban Sanctuary Wellness https://urbansanctuarywellness.com/ a community space set up to help support corporations, schools and individuals in trauma and disease recovery, to talk about this important topic that affects more people than we know.
In this episode, Gia shares her story of childhood sexual abuse and trauma, and demonstrates the healing and beauty that come with using your voice. This is not an easy conversation for anyone to have, but restoration cannot come if we continue to avoid talking about it. Stigma builds strength when we refuse to practice saying the words: "I was abused, I am a survivor. I am not broken."
Gia brings a survivor's wisdom to this conversation with Jess and Jess-and while the topic is dark, there is so much light that comes with embodying who we are inside our pain, and there is hope to get to the other side of it. Gia shows us what it means to practice resilience and how to model vulnerability in a gentle and refreshing way.
If you or someone you know is a victim of sexual abuse or violence, contact the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 800.656.HOPE (4673) or visit https://www.rainn.org/about-national-sexual-assault-telephone-hotline. For more information on Sexual Abuse and Sexual Violence Awareness Week, visit: https://sexualabuseandsexualviolenceawarenessweek.org
Meet Gia:
Gia (she/they) is an integrative mind-body wellness coach and mindfulness meditation teacher, working with corporations, schools, and individuals and groups in trauma and disease recovery.
Gia’s meditation practice began in childhood with their ancestral influences of yoga, Ayurveda, and Sufism. As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, meditation has been one of the greatest healing tools throughout their life. She has worked with non-profit organizations and corporations in stress management, building resilience, and cultivating empathy. Gia believes in the innate wisdom we have within us to heal and thrive, and utilizes their skills in nutrition, complementary and alternative medicine, and trauma-informed mindfulness to coach and educate.
Born and raised in the UK, she currently lives in the DC suburbs running a business and raising two children. As an activist, she works for justice in the community and holds workshops in unconscious bias, diversity, equity, inclusion, and access. Before covid, she was working with other survivors and at-risk communities. Gia is an avid lover of the arts, and writes poetry and short stories. She co-hosts a podcast, Relatively Nobody, which creates space for BIPOC and marginalized voices to foster community and healing.
https://sexualabuseandsexualviolenceawarenessweek.org
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At the age of 41, Rachel Lankester decided to take menopause by the ovaries and do it HER way. When trying for another child, Rachel found out she was actually mid-menopause and after spending time in deep soul searching, decided she was going to turn mid-life on its head and make it cool again!
In this episode, TTJ(es) have so much fun talking with Rachel about what menopause CAN look like: it doesn't have to signal the end, but can be a kick-ass start to a whole new you! Rachel shares her own experience and excitement about the possibilities that come with moving away from nurturing everyone else when your estrogen nosedives, and the creativity that is possible when we allow ourselves to take on the role of a Leader instead of a Breeder.
Helpful advice about lubricant, vibrators and self-pleasuring are just some of the recommendations Rachel brings with her wealth of knowledge on this episode of We Should Talk About That!
Meet Rachel!
Rachel Lankester is the founder of the Magnificent Midlife Movement, celebrating and empowering women 40+. She's passionate about changing how society perceives women in midlife and beyond, and also how we view ourselves. She's on a mission to disrupt negative ageist and sexist stereotypes about older women, menopause and aging.
After an early menopause at 41, followed by a period of soul-searching, she created what she wasn't able to find to help her cope. The Magnificent Midlife world includes mentoring, a online community, educational resources, an inspiring podcast and self-study programs to help midlife women refresh, re-energize and recalibrate.
Links mentioned in episode:
Pjur Lubricant:
https://www.amazon.com/pjur-Original-Silicone-Personal-Lubricant/dp/B083YSPC9T/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1UCXYK5LJCR5K&dchild=1&keywords=pjur+water+based+lubricant+for+sex&qid=1611444577&sprefix=pjur%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-9
The Happy Menopause by Jackie Lynch
https://www.amazon.com/Happy-Menopause-Smart-Nutrition-Flourish/dp/B08G2N7BRL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=18C0WZDNSCAX4&dchild=1&keywords=the+happy+menopause&qid=1611444619&sprefix=the+happy+meno%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-1
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The last four years of US presidential administration have been a roller coaster. After the events that took place at the US Capitol building a few weeks ago, The Two Jess(es) decide it's time for THAT conversation. The discomfort politics has caused in our collective conversations, the pain it has caused in our lives- Nicky McDonnell recounts the disbelief and shock she felt after the 2016 election and how it drove her to reach out to the strong and courageous women in her community. What started out as a group of 6 women has now grown into the thousands, and they did not waste any time. Whether it was sending out thousands of postcards to advocate for voting, or paying off all the school lunches in Fairfax county, this group of women has channelled their feelings of powerlessness that has wreaked havoc on our country and used it mobilize and affect REAL and lasting change.
Nicky candidly shares how the growth of this group has been the catalyst for introspection and change in her own life. As we wait out the next few days for normalcy to resume, this conversation will leave you challenged as well as hopeful.
What we do matters- the big and the small.
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Meet Nicky!
Nicky McDonnell has enjoyed working with clients in Old Town Alexandria and surrounding Northern Virginia for the past 20 years as a top producing and trusted realtor. She offers a comprehensive knowledge of the trends and challenges of the current real estate market as well as exceptional service to her clients. She is a skilled negotiator and has earned a long-standing reputation as an agent who champions ethics, decorum and confidentiality above all else.
Prior to her 20 years in real estate, Nicky owned an innovative green small business in mid-town Manhattan. She is a native Californian and has enjoyed living on the North Shore of Lake Tahoe, Newport Beach, and La Jolla. She is a proud alumna of Santa Catalina School in Carmel. She graduated from Emerson College in Boston, MA where she earned her Bachelor of Fine Arts degree. She has traveled extensively throughout North and South America, Europe, Asia and Africa. Along with Virginia and California, she has lived in Argentina, Boston, Los Angeles and Hell’s Kitchen, NY. She currently lives with her husband and children south of Old Town and is actively involved in community life, the arts, social action, outreach programs and schools.
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Should we cut out all sugar? Go gluten-free? What about intermittent fasting or the flat-belly tea that Instagrammers love? We are overwhelmed with conflicting and often inaccurate recommendations on what to eat. Most of that information is pushed on us by massive corporations, government agencies, and social media influencers who have a vested interest in what we consume. What is the truth when it comes to nutrition? Dr. Tim Spector uses his vast expertise to give us scientifically-based advice so we can take personal responsibility and rethink our whole relationship with food. In SPOON-FED, Spector debunks the “one-size-fits-all” to nutrition; with his company ZOE, he addresses how to use AI to personalize and democratize individual nutrition advice; and with ZOE’s COVID Symptom Study App, he’s helping The Two Jess(es) understand important connections between COVID-19 and nutrition.
Meet Dr. Spector!
Tim Spector is in the top 1% of scientists cited globally. He is an expert in gut health and a Professor of Genetic Epidemiology at King’s College London, director of the Twins UK study, and one of the world’s leading researchers. He is the scientific co-founder of ZOE, a senior researcher of the PREDICT study, and the creator of the COVID Symptom Study App. He is also a multi-award winning expert in personalized medicine, food policy, and the gut microbiome and the author of four books, including the bestselling The Diet Myth. He regularly appears on TV and radio worldwide and has written for Scientific American, the Guardian, BMJ, and many other publications.
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Do you overdrink? Do you feel ashamed about your drinking habit? Are you concerned that your habit is turning into a problem, especially when 5 o clock rolls around and you reach for that bottle of Pinot without even really thinking about it anymore?
Jess and Jess have decided its time to have a conversation about their alcohol habits, and so they have invited Dr. Sherry Price on to talk about her Drink Less Lifestyle Program, a program designed for high functioning women who are tired of feeling out of control and not in charge when it comes to their drinking habits. Dr. Sherry's program, based on neuroscience, and rooted in her own personal experience with overdrinking has allowed her the opportunity to work with hundreds of women who have grown weary of the shame and negative effects that come with having too much.
In this episode TTJ(es) get really uncomfortable, slightly emotional and characteristically introspective as they talk with Dr. Sherry about meeting themselves in an alcohol-free space, and relearning how to operate in social capacities as just themselves. Once again, they are called upon to show up and practice what Jess K calls, 'empowered choice' and it turns out, it doesn't seem to be all that hard afterall.
Meet Dr. Sherry!
Sherry B. Price, PharmD, MBA, APh, BCPS is a certified life coach, podcaster, pharmacist, and creator of the Drink Less Lifestyle program. She's helped hundreds of women stop the overdrinking habit and create a new relationship with alcohol where they are confident and in control. Her website is www.sherryprice.com where she offers a variety of free resources including her podcast called Drink Less Lifestyle.
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Is there a difference between an eating disorder and disordered eating? The Two Jess(es) take a look at their own food habits and get really honest with functional nutritionist, Mindy Gorman- Plutzer, creator of The Freedom Promise, a program that helps people look at their relationship with food through the lense of what food can do for us, instead of what it will do to us.
In this episode, we focus on coming to the table with intention and using all our senses to experience our food, and setting up healthy practices that allow us to lay down our judgements and criticism and instead bolster us so that we can trust our bodies and nourish them in the healthiest way possible.
Meet Mindy!
Mindy Gorman-Plutzer brings 25 years of experience to her private practice as a Certified Functional Nutrition and Lifestyle Practitioner and Eating Psychology Coach. Mindy’s life experience and training inspired her to create a framework that combines functional nutrition, positive psychology, and mind/body science; introducing a compassionate resolution to physical and emotional challenges resulting from chronic and complex health issues, as they relate to Eating Disorders. She’s the author of The Freedom Promise: 7 Steps To Stop Fearing What Food Will Do TO You and Start Embracing What It Can Do FOR You.
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Caroline Paul is the ultimate BADASS. She has spent her life following her heart and dreams wherever they have taken her, including a 13 year career as one of San Francisco's first fire WOMEN, white water rafting on rivers all over the world that have never been rafted, kayaking around various countries and micro flighting with the world's elite, just to name a few.
In this episode, The Two Jess(es) sit down for a conversation on bravery, and recognizing fear as an important emotion, but also acknowledging the exhilaration that comes along with stretching yourself outside your comfort zone. And most particularly, and certainly, most importantly, how we can lay the foundation for raising our daughters, and other young girls in our lives, in such a way that helps them access their most brave and empowered selves.
Topics such as risky play, scientific studies on gender on the playground, and setting world records for CRAWLING, are among some of the topics covered. Caroline is inspiring, motivating, thoughtful and gutsy- an episode that will certainly leave you with some lasting thoughts!
Meet Caroline!
I grew up in New England, with an identical twin, a younger brother, and a menagerie of animals. I did some goofy things as an adolescent: I learned all the constellations in the Western Hemisphere; I regularly rode my banana-seat bicycle for miles to read Archie comics at the nearest general store in our rural town; I built a boat out of milk cartons, then convinced others to join me on the river, then waded to shore with them when it broke up in the first rapid.
I graduated from Stanford University, where I studied Communications. At the time I had a vague idea that perhaps I would become a documentary filmmaker. Instead, in 1989, I became a San Francisco firefighter.
In 1999, I wrote about my thirteen-and-a-half year career in Fighting Fire, an updated version of which came out in 2011. I’d tell you about those years, but really, you should just read the book. I will only say that being in a fire made me happy, and doing emergency medical work intrigued me. All of it made me a better person.
*The most remote place I’ve been is Siberia, where I saw a Unidentified Flying Object that may or may not have been the Soviet military. The highest place I’ve been was on a mountain bike in the Bolivian Andes back when mountain bikes were scarce and 15,000 feet didn’t hurt as much as it would now. The most isolated I’ve ever felt was in a blizzard on Denali, where we had to stay in the tent and pee into a Gatorade bottle.
My novel East Wind, Rain came out in 2006. In 2013, Lost Cat, A True Story of Love, Desperation and GPS Technology was published. It was named a Best Book by Jezebel and by the influential website Brainpickings. The Gutsy Girl: Escapades for Your Life of Epic Adventure published in 2016, is a rally cry for girl power. Part memoir, part how-to-outdoors guide, this book offers life lessons through adventure stories. It's Lean In for middle grade girls, set not in the workplace but on bicycles, tree branches, sea kayaks, and cliff edges.*
In 2018, You Are Mighty: A Guide to Changing the World came out just as teens around the country were taking a stand against gun violence. This illustrated book aims for an even younger audience, teaching kids from 9 -to-12-years-old the tactics of civil engagement and protest. You Are Mighty believes it’s never too early to learn how to raise voices in a constructive, thoughtful way because activism teaches us about our democracy, and about ourselves, and sets a solid foundation for the informed and participatory citizenship every country sorely needs.
Writing never happens in a vaccuum. I've been part of the Writers Grotto
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In this episode, Jess and Jess discuss the interesting background and career of Linda Simensky, Head of Content Creation for PBS Kids Network. How much tv is too much tv for our kids? And does the quality outweigh the quantity? What about YouTube? Bad, Ok, Terrible? The Two Jess(es) ask this children's television expert everything!
Meet Linda!
*As the Head of PBS KIDS Content, Linda Simensky collaborates with producers, co-production partners, PBS station programmers, and distributors throughout the development, production, post-production, broadcast and digital phases for PBS KIDS content. She leads the development of a multi-platform video content strategy, designed to respond to the quickly evolving media environment and meet the needs of current and future viewers. She spearheads new, experimental approaches for emerging platforms to engage kids and support their learning, developing a slate of content that represents the next generation of children.
Linda’s efforts in transforming PBS KIDS’ lineup for children over the past several years have brought PBS to the forefront of the children’s media space. The American public rates PBS KIDS as the most trusted educational media brand for children, and PBS KIDS programs consistently rank highly with moms and preschoolers. PBS KIDS has been named Channel of the Year in Kidscreen’s broadcasting awards for five out of the past seven years.*
*Since joining PBS in 2003, Linda has worked with renowned producers to develop hit shows that now reach 72% of all kids ages 2-8 in the U.S. – from DANIEL TIGER’S NEIGHBORHOOD and DINOSAUR TRAIN, to WILD KRATTS and ODD SQUAD.
Before joining PBS, Linda was Senior Vice President of Original Animation for Cartoon Network, where she oversaw development and series production of "The Powerpuff Girls," among others. She began her career working for nine years at Nickelodeon, where she helped build the animation department and launch the popular series "Rugrats," "Doug" and "The Ren & Stimpy Show." Linda is a frequent speaker and writer on the topic of children’s programming; she has presented at numerous animation and television conferences and her work has appeared in several books on animation and children’s media. She also teaches a course on “Contemporary Issues in Animation” at the University of Pennsylvania.*
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What reaction does the word 'FAT' illicit in you? Does it make you feel uncomfortable, about yourself or someone else? Do you correct your children if they use it as if it were a dirty three letter word? Do you think this word when you look at yourself in the mirror? Does it make you feel...shame? Tiana Dodson is a body liberation coach who is fat, and is out to destroy the stigma around being fat because here life experience has shown her that being fat is the same as being tall, short, funny, smart- and it certainly does not mean you are not healthy. And sure as hell doesn't mean you aren't happy!
Tiana shares truth in its most beautiful form- and addresses the direct links to racism, sexism and control that being fat has placed upon her and so many others. At times, this conversation can get, well, uncomfortable. But if you are into pondering what life would look like if you accepted your body in it's fattest form, are into chicken and dumplings, and feel like you could use a good laugh and some tools for body acceptance- this episode is definitely one for you!
Meet Tiana!
Tiana Dodson is a fat, Body Liberation Coach and Facilitator who’s out to destroy the belief that you have to be skinny to be happy and healthy, loveable, or worthy. Through her work with the Fat Freedom Foundation program, she guides people feminine-of-center to reconnect with their bodies, destigmatize fatness, and learn about the harms of health being a measure of worth... all while finding how they can live their best fat lives.
To learn more about Tiana and her work, please visit her at:https://tianadodson.com/
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Failure. It's a scary word in general, but when it comes to our kids and letting them 'fail' we are a generation of parents that will go to great lengths to keep that from happening. Maybe it's the way Gen Xers were parented (or not parented) or our need to achieve or just our general fear of upsetting the proverbial apple cart- one thing is clear: our kids are not getting the best end of the stick when it comes to trying, failing, and getting back up again.
In her book, 'The Gift of Failure: How the Best Parents Learn to Let Go so their Children can Succeed." author Jessica Lehay brings so many personal experiences from her classroom, and parenting fails through the pages of this book in order to help parents see how detrimental bailing their children out can really be. The Two Jess(es) bring all their parenting questions to this third Jess and are met with a wealth of experience, wisdom and professional advice.
The book is a must read, and this episode is a must listen, for those parents who may be struggling to empower their children with the gift of independence, competence and confidence in the face of disappointment.
https://www.jessicalahey.com/
Book Link:
https://www.jessicalahey.com/the-gift-of-failure-2
List of Resources mentioned on the show:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/51d5b70de4b07e30233ade36/t/5e4193261be2517dbcdee8d3/1581355814271/Bibliography.pdf
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How is Thanksgiving different for you this year? And how are you feeling about it? The Two Jess(es) have a chat about their holiday traditions in general, and what that looks like in the height of a pandemic. JessB and her family are getting even campier this year and JessK is making her "Friendsgiving" circle much smaller.
In true fashion, TTJ(es) do talk about some serious stuff, and they can't let the opportunity to go by without talking about what they are...and are NOT grateful for this year.
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Liz Bohannon did what few of us dare to do in our lifetimes: she realized she wanted to make a difference in the world, but what needed to change first, was her own life. So she quit her job, bought a one way ticket to Uganda and ten years later, she runs a collaboration of women on both sides of the pond that have built a beautiful community of belonging and empowerment that she could never have dreamed up, even if she had tried.
Liz brings her wit and passion to this conversation with The Two Jess(es) as she talks candidly about the pressure and angst that comes with believing the 'Passion Propaganda' instead of accepting the reality that passions and visions are really built with hard work and commitment to seeing things through. Her message of extolling creativity over criticism and 'owning your average' are a breath of fresh air in the rat race of self-help and the never ending struggle of self-improvement.
This is an inspiring conversation that left both Jess(es) energized in the best possible way- and they know it will do the same for you.
Meet Liz!
Liz Bohannon is the founder of Sseko Designs, a socially conscious fashion brand, and the author of Beginner's Pluck. She was named a top speaker by Forbes and a Transformational Leader by John Maxwell. She spends her days encouraging and equipping women to build lives (and businesses!) of purpose and impact and her nights and weekends wrestling, snuggling and wrangling her two sons with her husband (and business partner!) Ben.
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Among many things, the pandemic of 2020 has brought along with it a huge spotlight that has brought into focus so many inequalities, imbalances and well, problems, within our society and culture. But along with that, many of the coping skills we have employed to get through life in a less than steady relationship are gone, and there are many couples out there who are literally crumbling.
Jennifer Lehr, creator of the relationship curriculum WeConcile, which is a revolutionary do-it-yourself online educational application that helps couples improve trust, intimacy, safety and connection through established relationship science, shares what she has learned in her 20 years as a marriage and family therapist and offers hope and help to those who may be struggling right now, and may need some alternatives to traditional therapy modalities.
Jennifer's offering allows every relationship access to the help they may need in order to build a space of connection and belonging.
Meet Jennifer!
In her younger years, she did not have the skills needed to have a successful relationship. Like many others, Jennifer grew up in a family with difficult family dynamics. She changed that by spending years working on her own issues, educating herself as well as studying and training as a couples therapist and working with couples. Jennifer knew that if she could change her relationship ability from poor to excellent, anybody could.
In 2009, she began writing WeConcile a revolutionary do-it-yourself online educational application that helps couples improve trust, intimacy, safety and connection through established relationship science. She created WeConcile to help couples get free from pain and disconnection, and to again find happiness in marriage. Now, Jennifer Lehr is on a mission to create a world filled with connection instead of conflict. She specializes in educating couples on the relationship skills they need to build a solid, connected and loving partnership. As a marriage and family therapist for nearly 20 years, she uses her knowledge and advanced training in many couples' modalities to help others succeed in their marriage.
Jennifer is a regular contributor to many online publications as well as her blogs, sharing her experience and expertise to help people improve their lives and relationships. She also writes and talks about her journey from a difficult relational beginning to creating a beautiful relationship with her husband, Mike.
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Mature Content Topics such as suicide and mental illness are woven throughout this conversation.
If you have not watched the super popular Amazon Series Modern Love yet- you are missing out. Particularly episode three, 'Take Me as I Am, Whoever I Am' which portrays a woman (played by the lovely Anne Hathaway) struggling to live life with bipolar disorder. This episode was inspired by an essay written by today's guest, Terri Cheney, which was published in the New York Times in 2008.
Today The Two Jess(es) get a chance to sit down with author Terri Cheney, to talk about what it is like to live life as a high profile entertainment lawyer in Hollywood who also struggles through cycles of mania and deep depression caused by bipolar disorder. Terri, who now spends her time advocating on behalf of those who are in need of mental health support, candidly shares her thoughts and experiences and is incredibly inspiring by the strength and clarity with which she shares some of her darkest moments.
There are some very serious moments broken up by hilarious stories proving that living with bipolar disorder successfully is possible.
Terry's newest book, Modern Madness was released in September is available for purchase wherever you buy books.
https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Madness-Owners-Terri-Cheney/dp/0306846306/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1604233522&sr=8-1-spons
https://www.amazon.com/Season-1-Official-Teaser/dp/B0875GVR5Z/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2F2KWAQVGKCFJ&dchild=1&keywords=modern+love+episode+3&qid=1604233439&sprefix=modern+love+episode%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1
Meet Terri:
Terri Cheney is the author of the New York Times bestseller Manic. Terri’s writings and commentary about bipolar disorder have also been featured in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Huffington Post, NPR, PsychologyToday.com, and countless articles and popular blogs. She is a member of the Board of Directors of the Saks Institute for Mental Health Law, Policy, and Ethics at USC, the Honorary Board of Directors of the International Bipolar Foundation, and the Board of Directors of Project Return Peer Support Network. She also served on the Community Advisory Board of the UCLA Mood Disorders Research Program. She founded and facilitates a weekly mental health support group at UCLA’s Neuropsychiatric Institute. She currently lives in Los Angeles.
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On this nine year anniversary of Jess B's kidnapping (we know, that IS a really weird sentence, but there really is no other way around it!) TTJ(es) invite Jess B's husband, Erik Landemalm, to come on and do most of the talking.
Sitting around Jess B and Erik's kitchen table, the three have a really open and honest conversation about what it was like for Erik when he got the call on October 25, 2011 that his wife had been kidnapped at gunpoint, and dragged off into the Somali desert. He shares his thoughts, simultaneously pragmatic and dark, about what it was like to be the one left behind, how he felt he had failed his wife by not protecting her from this, and how every single day, he wrote her a love letter and asked himself the question: What Would Jess Want Me To Do?
Jess B spends her working hours sharing about her kidnapping experience and what she has learned from it, but this time, she's not the one talking. This is a conversation on what it means to belong to each other, in pieces or in wholeness, absent or present and how we find the strength to carry on.
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Adult Content, NOT for little EARS!
Continuing on in the theme of 'Enough...' The Two Jess(es) have had ENOUGH of several things, just to name a few: tinkling when they sneeze, peeing themselves when they laugh too hard, having to pee more than 14 times a day and the perpetual dryness, 'down there.'
ENOUGH already!
Dr. Gopi takes this episode to a whole new level with an in-depth visit to 'Vagina Town.' She explains then ins and outs (pun intended!) of the often overlooked importance of pelvic health, details the signs and symptoms that could be a result of problems with the pelvis, and well, just has a lot of fun talking about it all. In her words: 'her job is to help people enjoy sex again!' And she LOVES it!
TTJ(es) have a lot of fun with this incredibly informative conversation. Even if the word Vagina, (and dicks) makes you uncomfortable, stick with it- and take a ride to Vagina Town with Dr. Gopi- there is help out there for us all!
Meet Dr. Gopi!
Gopi was born and raised in New York and graduated from Stony Brook University with a Doctorate in Physical Therapy in 2003 at which time her interest in Women's Health began. She eventually moved to Brooklyn, where she started the first Women's Health PT program at a major hospital. Gopi went on to open a private practice in Brooklyn, specializing in male and female pelvic health for 8 years until her family life brought her to Northern Virginia.
She started Blueprint Physical Therapy in January of 2019 and has loved getting to know her new surroundings while providing in home visits around DC, Maryland and Virginia. She is dedicated to continuing education and is a teacher, teaching assistant and lecturer for providers of many disciplines and for the community. She's also a wife and mom of a 4 and 5 year old and just added a pandemic puppy to her family.
http://blueprintphysicaltherapy.com
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Dr. Joshua Kefer brings decades of experience to this conversation with The Two Jess(es). Packed full of helpful information, this episode is also equal parts a therapy session as Dr. Kefer alleviates many of Jess and Jess' fears about the psychological impact the current pandemic, and virtual school setting may be causing for our children.
Dr. Kefer reminds us to pay attention to how we may be projecting our own fears and anxieties onto what our children are really experiencing, and brings with him a beautiful reminder to find something to tether ourselves to, because our children are tethering to us.
If you are scared about how this is all affecting your school/college aged children, then spend some time with Dr. Kefer, he will make you feel like it really is going to be alright.
Resource List:
Check out Dr. Kefer's Recommendations!
Mental Health Resources
Healthy Minds Blog
Healthy Minds Podcast
EAP Resources for Staff
Kognito Trainings
Self-Care:
§ Coping with Stress
§ Self-Care During COVID
Community Treatment
Community Service Board – Mental Health Concerns
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/community-services-board/about/merrifield-center
Mobile Crisis
https://www.cr2crisis.com/
Online Resources and Tools
American Psychological Association (resources)
https://www.apa.org/topics/covid-19
National Association of School Psychologist (resources)
https://www.nasponline.org/resources-and-publications/resources-and-podcasts/school-climate-safety-and-crisis/health-crisis-resources/helping-children-cope-with-changes-resulting-from-covid-19
Virginia Department of Health (resources)
https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/
CDC – Resources for anxiety
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/managing-stress-anxiety.html
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There is A LOT to unpack in this episode with Tara Haelle, a science and health journalist whose article "Your 'Surge Capacity' is Depleted-It's Why You Feel Awful" hit our radar in August as something we should definitely talk about. We revisit familiar themes of toxic positivity, embracing the suck, and being OK with NOT being OK as well as learn new terminology like "surge capacity", "resilience banks", and "ambiguous loss".
Tara has also spent over a decade writing and reporting on vaccines for over a decade, so we dive right into the current status of the many COVID-19 vaccine developments. She shares with us and our community her knowledge on the REAL timeline for a COVID vaccine and breaks down for us laymen how exactly to find information we can trust. It's a pretty packed episode-one that we think you are going to need to listen to with a pen and paper, and probably more than once!
Tara Haelle is a freelance science and health journalist who has specialized in writing about vaccines, pediatrics, infectious disease, women’s health, mental health and medical research for the past decade. She is a Forbes contributor whose work also appears in NPR, the New York Times, Scientific American, O Magazine, Elemental, Self Magazine, HuffPost, and Medscape. She wrote the book Vaccination Investigation: The Science and History of Vaccines, and cowrote The Informed Parent: A Science-Based Guide to the First Four Years, with science journalist Emily Willingham. She has also authored a dozen children’s science books and given a TEDx talk about why parents fear vaccines.
https://elemental.medium.com/your-surge-capacity-is-depleted-it-s-why-you-feel-awful-de285d542f4c
https://elemental.medium.com/enough-with-the-hand-wringing-over-covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-ef0bed6cd0fc
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/smarter-living/why-you-need-the-flu-shot-every-year.html
https://elemental.medium.com/50-experts-to-trust-in-a-pandemic-fe58932950e7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggtkzkoI3eM&authuser=0
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Whether you can't live without pups in your life or not, this conversation is nothing but FEEL GOOD. Kathy Callahan, the matchmaker who actually introduced The Two Jess(es) way back when, shares her heart and experience with us as she recounts what it has been like to foster 175 puppies to date. Kathy candidly shares her journey to where she is now, and what she would describe as her 'best and highest use.'
Her book, 101 Rescue Puppies: One Family's Story of Fostering Dogs, Love and Trust, is available for order on September 29,2020 and it is filled with Kathy's beautiful photos, capturing the essence of who she is and what she is able to offer the world. Kathy is inspiring in the best kind of way and all the puppies and families she has touched with her work remain faithfully supportive and follow her around, just like her puppies do!
Meet Kathy!
Kathy Callahan is the author of 101 Rescue Puppies: One Family’s Story of Fostering Dogs, Love, and Trust. She’s a Certified Professional Dog Trainer (CPDT-KA) who specializes in puppyhood coaching in Alexandria, Virginia. (She and her family continue to foster puppies amid their own furry pack.) More at www.puppypicks.com.
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https://www.amazon.com/101-Rescue-Puppies-Familys-Fostering/dp/1608686566/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2F9VI206T2PUP&dchild=1&keywords=kathy+callahan&qid=1601248170&s=books&sprefix=kathy+callahan%2Cstripbooks%2C134&sr=1-1
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/101-rescue-puppies-kathryn-gord-callahan/1136390637?ean=9781608686568
https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781608686568
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Looking for the silver lining in a difficult situation can be a great coping mechanism, but sometimes, it can actually become toxic. The Two Jess(es) talk with toxic positivity experts and therapists Dr. Jamie Long and Samara Quientero on what toxic positivity looks like, how it shows up in our lives and conversations, and how it can negatively impact the way we deal with stress and hardship in our lives.
Meet Dr. Jamie Long!
Dr. Jamie Long is a licensed clinical psychologist and co-owner of a boutique psychology practice, The Psychology Group Fort Lauderdale. For over 14 years, Dr. Long has served the South Florida community with her dedication to helping individuals lead meaningful lives and achieve mental wellness. Her mission is to change the way people think about mental health therapy. She wants you to know that participating in therapy is a healthy habit and an important part of a healthy lifestyle. Dr. Long specializes in the treatment of anxiety, depression, eating disorders, and relationship issues.
Meet Samara Quintero!Samara Quintero is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Certified Hypnotherapist practicing in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Her mission is to help individuals resolve issues that have kept them from having the deeply fulfilling lives that they are deserving of. She specializes in working with trauma, anxiety, depression and relationships issues. Samara's therapeutic approach is unique in that she incorporates hypnosis, mindfulness, and an overall holistic perspective to create long lasting change in her client's lives.
https://thepsychologygroup.com/toxic-positivity/
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The Two Jess(es) have the immense privilege of sitting down to talk with author of the #1 New York Times Bestselling author of Dear Madam President, to discuss her newest work: She Proclaims: Our Declaration of Independence from a Man's World.
This is is not a man-haters hour, but rather, an episode filled to the brim with all the important observations that have led Jennifer to asking some uncomfortable questions about why things work the way they do for women in a man's world-or rather, really, why and how they do NOT work. Jennifer's experiences serving under the Obama administration as the White House Communications Director, and then as the head of Communications for the Hillary Clinton campaign offer ALL of us, valuable insight into the state of gender limitations in the professional realm and beyond.
Meet Jennifer!
Jennifer Palmieri *is a writer and one of the most accomplished communications advisors in politics today. Author of the number 1 New York Times bestseller Dear Madam President, Jennifer was White House Communications Director for President Obama and head of Communications for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. Having served in the West Wing for 12 years under President Obama and President Clinton she has an unparalleled level of understanding in how US Presidents communicate in a complex media environment. And as someone who worked on the campaign of the first female Democratic nominee, Jennifer has a unique perspective on how media and voters treat women in powerful positions. She is also a guest host of Showtime’s The Circus and a contributing editor to Vanity Fair.
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https://www.amazon.com/She-Proclaims-Declaration-Independence-World/dp/1538750651
https://www.vanityfair.com/contributor/jennifer-palmieri*
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This is the talisman episode by which The Two Jess(es) are building WeSTAT's Season 2 around- exploring what it means to be ENOUGH, to have ENOUGH, to want ENOUGH, to say ENOUGH. This conversation with writer and creator of the massively successful food blog Gluten-Free Girl is everything we need as we begin this next season of pandemic life. Shauna exudes wisdom and ease, as she shares with TTJ(es) her experiences, practices and realizations on what is really and truly enough for our kids, our families, ourselves.
Find a space of quiet, pull out your journal and make yourself a cup of tea, because this episode is full of quotes and simple, yet profound thoughts you will want to read over and over again.
Meet Shauna!
Shauna James Ahern is the author of the cookbook, Gluten-Free Girl and the Chef, named one of the best cookbooks of 2010 by The New York Times, and the food memoir, Gluten-Free Girl. She is also the author, photographer, and head baker at Gluten-Free Girl and the Chef, her much-loved food website (www.glutenfreegirl.com), which she creates with her chef husband, Daniel Ahern. Her work has been published or recognized by The New York Times, Gourmet, Bon Appetit, Epicurious, Babble, The Guardian, Gilt Taste, CNN's Eatocracy, and The Washington Post. Her latest cookbook, Gluten-Free Girl Everyday, was nominated for a James Beard award. She and her husband, with their two children, live on Vashon Island, where they are probably cooking something as you read this.
You can support Shauna by subscribing to her blog @:
https://enough.substack.com/about
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The Two Jess(es) are 60 episodes in, and after a brief 'mini-break' through August, they are ready to bring you more! This season we will be looking at the word 'Enough' in all its many layers, complexities and sides. Join us as we hold space for one another, challenge the idea of what Enough is, and through the process, learn how to better care for ourselves and each other.
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Amy Kalokerinos has often been referred to as the AK-47 of the startup world, and she brings it HOME with her talk on second generation gender bias. The Two Jess(es) discuss the massive disparity around the descriptors used for women (often negative) in the work place, and the descriptors used for men (often the positive counterpart to the words describing women) with Amy. Together, TTJ(es) learn how to 'flip the script' in a world where women are STILL referred to as bossy, bitchy, too emotional, aggressive, and hormonal, just to name a few. Amy defines second generation gender bias, and sheds light onto the discrepancies that heavily affect women all day, every day.
Meet Amy!
https://www.akalaid.com/
Known throughout the start-up world as “AK-47,” Amy Kalokerinos is a hired gun frequently brought in by entrepreneurs, corporate executives, and investors to accelerate product development, sales, marketing, business development, and cross-border strategic optimization.Sponsors:
Just Dance
http://5678justdance.com/
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Who out there spent their 20's (and 30's) watching Carrie Bradshaw traipse around NYC in designer stilettos with her gal pals, downing cosmos and breaking hearts along the way? If this is a pop culture touchstone for you, then you will certainly get a kick out of this conversation! The Two Jess(es) sit down to talk with the creator of Sex and the City, Candace Bushnell, and ask: Is there STILL SEX IN THE CITY? As women like (or unlike!) Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte, and Miranda approach their glorious middle age, Candace, in her typically hilarious style, shares with us her experiences and findings, which she has chronicled in her book: Is There Still Sex In the City? The three cover subjects like 'cubbing' not to be confused with 'cougaring,' the Mona Lisa Treatment, and what it feels like to be dating or not dating, after you have spent many decades dedicated to marriage, children, career, and now find yourself single.
Many uncomfortable moments as these three ladies contemplate the fact that EVERYONE is having less sex...but why?
Meet Candace:
Candace Bushnell is the critically acclaimed, internationally bestselling author of Sex and the City, Lipstick Jungle, The Carrie Diaries, One Fifth Avenue, Trading Up, Four Blondes, Summer and the City, and Killing Monica. Sex and the City, published in 1996, was the basis for the HBO hit series and two subsequent blockbuster movies. Lipstick Jungle became a popular television series on NBC, as did The Carrie Diaries on the CW.
https://www.amazon.com/There-Still-Sex-City-ebook/dp/B07NF9F12J/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2QUDXDUTVLKKS&dchild=1&keywords=is+there+still+sex+in+the+city+book&qid=1598230812&s=books&sprefix=is+there+sti%2Caps%2C139&sr=1-1
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Just Dance-Serious Training for the Young Dancerr
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Following an article written by Chabeli Carranza from The 19th a non-profit, non-partisan newsroom that is committed to empower women, people of color, and those historically underserved by American media — with the information, resources and community they need to be equal participants in democracy,* The Two Jess(es) sit down with Chabeli and talk about the first female recession of American women since they began entering the workforce in the middle of WWII.
Presently, at the height of women leading as the majority in the American work world (50.4%) they have been hardest hit by the recession that America is facing as a result of COVID-19.
With the loss of childcare support, school closings and female dominated industries that are just plain disappearing, Chabeli brings us stark statistics and details from her findings on the impact this global crisis is having on women in general, but predominately women of color and underrepresented groups. Or more accurately, the truth of the inequity which is still a reality for women as workers in the American workforce, and how COVID is uncovering the difficult to acknowledge truth of it all.
Check out Chabeli's article!
https://19thnews.org/2020/08/americas-first-female-recession/
Meet Chabeli:
Chabeli Carrazana is the women and the economy reporter for The 19th*. Previously, she worked as a business reporter for the Miami Herald, where she covered the tourism industry, and the Orlando Sentinel, where she covered NASA, the private space industry and labor issues.
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Where HAVE all the tomboys gone? And can we really use that word anymore? What does it actually mean? The Two Jess(es) have an incredibly thought provoking conversation with writer and researcher, Lisa Selin Davis, a modern day tomboy expert, and author of the newly released book, Tomboy: The Surprising History and Future of Girls Who Dare to be Different.
This conversation addresses the issues and challenges around gender non-conformity as well as the labels that we use to define gender, behaviors, and the refusal of being boxed in. Davis points out how the concept of 'Tomboyism' is actually steeped in racism and white privilege, and how gender identity is largely perpetuated by capitalism, not biology.
An interesting conversation for those who are curious and want to expand their vocabulary and knowledge around gender non-conformity.
Show Notes:
Meet Lisa!
LISA SELIN DAVIS is an essayist, novelist, and journalist who has written for major publications such as the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Guardian, Time, Yahoo, and Salon, among many others. She lives with her family in New York. Davis continues to write for major publications such as the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Women's Day, Bustle, Salon, Yahoo, Time Out, and more, and her articles often open the door to both debate and celebration. Most recently, in December 2018, another article she wrote for the New York Times, “Like Tomboys and Hate Girlie Girls? That's Sexist,” went viral and sparked almost 400 comments. In 2017, her Guardian article “For Years I Thought She Was Stealing My Identity Until I Found Her” sparked 551 comments and record-breaking shares for the paper.
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https://www.amazon.com/Tomboy-Surprising-History-Future-Different-ebook/dp/B07XDL5WMX
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Jess and Jess sit down to talk with Dayna Chung, the co-founder of Community Equity Collaborative, a grass roots organization based in the Bay Area, that works to raise awareness on the profound effects supporting Early Childhood has on the future citizens of our country and the teachers who serve them.
This is an interesting conversation that centers first and foremost on the incredible importance of allocating time and resources for our youngest learners, and how CEC works to get people out of poverty into a place of employment and empowerment through programs such as systems navigation, providing meals for families and supporting those who need to earn credits with childcare while learning, and then job placement when appropriate.
This is an inspiring initiative that was born out of a book club that started in an effort to face two women's own white privilege and has set a precedent that is changing teachers' and students' lives in the most impactful ways.
Show Notes:
Meet Our Guest: Dayna Chung!
*Dayna Chung blends global experience with community organizing. From coaching business executives to creating teacher pipeline programs to consulting with nonprofits, she is passionate about empowering women and children while advocating for greater equity, inclusion and justice.
Dayna has worked with international companies in business communications, training and organizational development. Having spent more than six years in Asia, she has a track record for organizing and leading cross-cultural and multi-disciplined teams. As a consultant with Larcen Consulting Group, Dayna partnered with companies to manage change and develop individual and team performance.
Dayna is also an Organizing Member of nonprofit organization Community Equity Collaborative, which advocates for equity in education through programs ranging from teacher pipelines for early learning educators to K-12 school breakfast initiatives. She is involved with several Early Childhood Education initiatives such as the Child Care Partnership Council of San Mateo County (Member, Workforce Committee), the Menlo Park City School District Early Learning Center (Advisory Board Member), and Foothill College’s Child Development and Education Advisory Board (Member).
Dayna graduated Summa Cum Laude with Highest Honors in International Studies from Butler University. She holds an MBA in International Management from the University of London.*
http://www.communityequitycollaborative.org/index.html
https://www.childcareaware.org/
https://www.ffyf.org/
https://heckmanequation.org/
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Over this week, our social media feeds have been flooded with the beautiful black and white selfies of over 53 million women with the hashtag #challengeaccepted.
The Two Jess(es) dive deep into why, JessK, who is a classic 6 on the Enneagram, felt hesitant about participating. Turns out her skepticism has led her down the rabbit hole of information on what this Black and White Challenge has really been all about. Hashtags, "slacktivism" and some good old WeSTAT introspection for the last minisode of the season!
Show Notes:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/style/challenge-accepted-instagram.html
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Calling ALL Gen X women, and those who love them! The Two Jess(es) have the amazing opportunity to sit down for a really honest conversation with Ada Calhoun, New York Time's Bestselling author of Why We Can't Sleep: Women's New Midlife Crisis. These three Gen Xers get really honest really fast about all the stress of the mental load (pre AND post COVID) the physical exhaustion of middle age, and offer confessions about the weird things they worry about in those wee restless hours in the middle of the night!
Ada brings a fresh perspective, that against all odds, is hopeful for women who are feeling overwhelmed by middle age, menopause, homeschooling, worrying about their wrinkles and retirement. This book is a MUST READ and this conversation is the perfect primer.
Show Notes:
Meet Ada Calhoun!
Ada Calhoun is author of the New York Times bestseller Why We Can’t Sleep: Women’s New Midlife Crisis, an expansion of her viral story for Oprah.com and a “generation-defining exploration of the new midlife crisis facing Gen X women and the unique circumstances that have brought them to this point.”
Calhoun’s last two books, both named Amazon Books of the Month, were the New York City history St. Marks Is Dead: The Many Lives of America’s Hippest Street, and the memoir Wedding Toasts I’ll Never Give.
Named one of the top ten memoirs of 2017, Wedding Toasts I’ll Never Givewas called “realistic, loving, laugh-out-loud funny” (Publishers Weekly); “graceful, hilarious” (Library Journal); “engaging, wise, lovely” (Kirkus); “original, engrossing” (New York Times Book Review); and “warm-hearted, Ephron-esque” (Washington Post). Modern Love published the book’s first serial excerpt as “To Stay Married, Embrace Change;” it reached #1 on the Most Emailed list. The book was featured twice on the Today show and named a “Hot Book” by Star.St. Marks Is Dead, a 400-year history of the New York City street where the author grew up, was called “revelatory” (Kirkus), “captivating” (Publishers Weekly), “delightful” (Wall Street Journal), “timely, provocative, and stylishly written” (Atlantic), and “an ecstatic roll call” (New York Times Book Review). The New Yorker online published the first serial excerpt, and the New York Times ran this related op-ed about cities and change. A
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The Two Jess(es) sit down with Portlander Joey Klei who has been participating in protests, in what is quickly becoming the epicenter for the Black Lives Matter movement in real time. For 50+ days straight, Portland has been fighting racial injustice, but now has moved into demanding their right to free speech, which is scarily being silenced by the government, and Joey is there to live stream it all.
Continuing on in our intention to have conversations around the issues concerning racial justice, this is a great conversation highlighting the work that Portlanders who LOVE their country are facing in terms of their rights to free speech and to practice peaceful protest. Portlanders will not be silenced and as this movement spreads across the USA, we will keep talking about.
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You asked, and we delivered! As we collected questions from YOU, our WeSTAT community about what you wanted to ask Dr. Rachel about regarding The Corona and your kids-the most popular query centered around the social and emotional health of our kiddos and back to school.
In this episode, the Ohio chapter Pediatrician of the Year (2019) for the American Academy of Pediatrics, Dr. Andrew Garner, answers our plethora of questions on how all this COVID stress is impacting our kids. Whether it is in person-school, virtual learning, socialization, or the lack thereof, and the stress that hangs over us all like the heavy cloud of 2020, Dr. Garner, who co-authored the AAP's technical report and policy statement on childhood toxic stress, gives us many tangible takeaways and ideas on how to best manage this historic time, even if they can't be black and white.
Show Notes:
Meet Dr. Andrew!
*Andrew Garner, MD, PhD, FAAP, is a pediatrician, author and child advocate. He is a graduate of Swarthmore College, the medical scientist (MD, PhD) training program at Case Western Reserve University (CWRU), and the pediatric residency training program at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. Dr. Garner has practiced primary care pediatrics with University Hospitals of Cleveland for twenty years. A Clinical Professor of Pediatrics at the CWRU School of Medicine, Dr. Garner co-authored the American Academy of Pediatrics’ policy statement and technical report on childhood toxic stress and a book entitled “Thinking Developmentally: Nurturing Wellness in Childhood to Promote Lifelong Health.” When not practicing pediatrics, writing about toxic stress, or advocating for children and their families, Dr. Garner enjoys hiking, fishing, watching baseball, and spending some quality time with his wife, two adult children, and the family dog, Bear.
Thinking Developmentally: Nurturing Wellness in Children to Develop Life Long Health*https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Developmentally-Nurturing-Wellness-Childhood-ebook/dp/B07F6W4PJG
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This has been a WEEK. JessB recounts her success, albeit uncomfortably, at achieving a huge goal with recording her TEDx talk (live streams 7/18!) and The Two Jess(es) discuss their final decisions regarding COVID school.
Show Notes:
If you are interested in viewing JessB giving her TEDx talk, you can purchase tickets here:
https://www.ted.com/tedx/events/38018
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It's all parents of school aged children can think about....their kids and school. Virtual, two days a week, homeschool? Will they stay in school, will they fall behind? Why are the schools making the decisions they are making and what do they have to say about them? Following the Secretary of Education's declaration that all schools should open in person, regardless of the current climbing pandemic, The Two Jess(es) sit down with two Fairfax County School Board members to get their take on the current crisis, and how it is affecting our kids.
This is an honest and at moments, uncomfortable conversation that must be had.
Show Notes:
Meet Rachna!
Rachna Sizemore Heizer is one of three At-Large Fairfax County School Board Members, the 10th largest school system in the United States in a county of over 1 million residents. She is the first Indian American person and first Asian American woman elected to a Fairfax County wide office. She is also the Program Coordinator of the Human Resource Development minor program and teaches employment law, leadership, and diversity and cultural competency online at Texas Tech University. She received both her Bachelor of Arts in Political Economy and her law degree from the University of California at Berkeley and started her career as a corporate and employment lawyer. She has served on numerous community boards and spent over twelve years as a disability justice advocate, working with state and federal officials on education policy and criminal justice issues. Her goals on the school board are to bring a voice to those students who most need it while ensuring a strengths-focused and interdisciplinary education that fosters creativity, critical thinking, and real-world problem solving.Meet Laura Jane!
Laura Jane Cohen was sworn into office as the Springfield District School Board Member on December 12, 2019. Laura Jane grew up in Marietta, Georgia and is the daughter and granddaughter of public school teachers.
After graduating from the University of Georgia with a degree in Political Science, Laura Jane worked for the Lt. Governor and Secretary of State of Georgia. When she and her husband moved to Fairfax County in 2001, Laura Jane became the Director of Outreach for a National Parkinson’s nonprofit. Having two kids brought her back to her teaching roots. Laura Jane taught preschool for several years before becoming a long-term substitute teacher for Fairfax County Public Schools. Laura Jane also served on the Cherry Run Elementary School PTA for eight years, three years as Staff Relations Chair, two terms as PTA President, and as the liaison to the Fairfax County Council of PTAs. She is currently a proud member of the Lake Braddock PTSA.
Laura Jane is a proud volunteer with Moms Demand Action and has also served on the Fairfax County Democratic Committee’s LGBTQ+ Committee. She also served on the Career and Technical Education Advisory Committee as well as the Disputed Materials Committee for the FCPS School Board.
In addition to her advocacy work, Laura Jane opened a vintage home decor shop in Clifton in 2015 and enjoys restoring furniture in her free time. Laura Jane and her husband, Seth, live in Burke with their two kids, two dogs, and Laura Jane’s mom.
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Dr. Rachel was such a hit on Monday, so The Two Jess(es) asked her to come back and answer questions submitted by the WeSTAT Community. If you are on the fence about whether or not it is safe for your child to go back to school this fall, or you are wondering whether it is advisable to get on an airplane, Dr. Rachel has her opinions, and the infectious disease science to back them up!
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If you are a parent feeling any sort of apprehension around having to make a decision regarding sending your child back to school, or whether to keep them home for virtual learning, then Dr. Rachel Orscheln, director of ambulatory Pediatric Infectious Diseases and the International Adoption Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and Washington University, is here for a VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION. Dr. Rachel offers really well rounded thoughts and answers TTJ(es) many many questions. What is herd immunity, really? Are our kids likely to catch COVID from each other while in class? What is the risk associated to the teachers? And SO MUCH MORE.
This is an offering to the WeSTAT community in hopes that it will help individuals who may not have had the opportunity to sit down for one hour with their health care provider.
Show Notes:
Meet Dr. Rachel!
Dr. Orscheln is the director of ambulatory Pediatric Infectious Diseases and the International Adoption Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and Washington University. She is a graduate of the University of Missouri-Columbia School of Medicine. She completed her residency in Pediatrics at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and a fellowship in Pediatric Infectious Diseases at Washington University. She has been a member of the faculty since 2005 and is currently an Associate Professor of Pediatrics. Her special clinical interest is in the care of immunocompromised children. Her current research interests include treatment of viral infections in normal and immunocompromised
children. When she is not at work, she enjoys spending time with her husband and 3 children.
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Who needs a feel good, uplifting and encouraging story to help redeem some of 2020 for them? Reba Riley will send you, on a weekly basis, words of kindness and courage that will do JUST THAT. She believes in kindness as being the hard, put on your work boots, work of true love, and so it is in that spirit that she began a texting initiative to encourage people who were feeling overwhelmed. And not only does she remind us that BRAVE is a VERB, she also has extended her initiative into the lives of frontline health care workers, making sure they are reminded how courageous they really are on a daily basis.
Show Notes:
https://encouragingtexts.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Post-Traumatic-Church-Syndrome-Memoir-Healing/dp/150112403X/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
Meet Reba!
Following a decade of success at Fortune 500 companies, Rebecca ‘Reba’ Riley penned a Simon & Schuster bestselling memoir exploring chronic illness and her exploration of thirty world religions. She is a keynote speaker on the topics of holistic health, everyday courage, and teambuilding, and a regular contributor to national media including TIME, CNN, ABC, CBS, and NPR. Most recently, Riley founded the nationwide kindness and courage campaign En#Couraging Texts, which enables the community to send supportive text messages of gratitude to frontline healthcare workers. Riley is currently pursuing her M.A. in Industrial and Organizational Psychology at Harvard University, and her specific area of research is fulfillment and delight in the workplace. She was honored by the Ohio State University as an “Everyday Hero” in the alumni category and is a Cincinnati Business Courier Forty Under Forty nominee. She serves as an interfaith chaplain (volunteer) at the Christ Hospital and is the board chaplain for the Q-Kidz Dance Team for at-risk girls in Cincinnati, Ohio.
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This is the kind of conversation that makes podcasting #worthit. The Two Jess(es) sit down with the ultimate bad ass and the 'NRA's #1 Enemy', Shannon Watts. Founder of the grassroots organization Moms Demand Action, described as a 'movement of Americans fighting for public safety measures that can protect people from gun violence.' They pass stronger gun laws and work to close the loopholes that jeopardize the safety of our families. Shannon is the author of Fight Like a Mother: How a Grassroots Movement Took on the Gun Lobby and Why Women Will Change the World, and works tirelessly to empower women through her work with Emerge America in order to train and recruit women to run for office.
This conversation runs deep on some of the hardest issues to discuss right now. Privilege, equality, school shootings, gun sense as opposed to gun control, and fighting the NRA one mom organized lemonade stand at a time, are just a few.
Show Notes:
Meet Shannon!
Shannon Watts is a mother of five who, prior to founding Moms Demand Action, was a stay-at-home mom and former communications executive. The day after the Sandy Hook tragedy, Shannon started a Facebook group with the message that all Americans can and should do more to reduce gun violence. The online conversation turned into a grassroots movement of Americans fighting for public safety measures that protect people from gun violence. Moms Demand Action has established a chapter in every state of the country and is part of Everytown for Gun Safety, the largest gun violence prevention organization in the country, with nearly 6 million supporters. In addition to her work with Moms Demand Action, Watts is an active board member of Emerge America, one of the nation’s leading organizations for recruiting and training women to run for office.
https://www.amazon.com/Fight-like-Mother-Grassroots-Movement/dp/0062892568
https://momsdemandaction.org/about/
https://emergeamerica.org/
Local Alexandria Chapter of Moms Demand Action
https://www.facebook.com/MomsDemandActionVA/
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It's Friday! And it also happens to be JessK's birthday! TTJ(es) get a little silly and a lot deep in these 20 minutes as they discuss the article that came out in the Harvard Business Review entitled: 'That Discomfort You're Feeling Is Grief.' by Scott Berinato.
As we sit in our 16th week of a global pandemic, we continue to call out on behalf of Black and Brown voices, and we face the reality of what the next school year will bring, JessB and JessK contemplate leaning in to the suck and self care when they feel like it is just too much. There is hope in our choices, our options, our conversation, they decide.
Show Notes:
https://hbr.org/2020/03/that-discomfort-youre-feeling-is-grief
https://meweintl.org/
http://www.westories.org/
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The two Jesses (TTJ) thought they were going to do a book and podcast review and they ended up having a brutally honest and uncomfortable conversation about the intention vs the impact of our actions.
As they discuss how they are approaching their "unlearning" within the context of white privilege, TTJ continue to be transparent about their difficult conversations in hopes that it will help others as they are having their own.
Books and podcasts discussed in this episode:
http://austinchanning.com/the-book
https://www.powells.com/book/stamped-9780316453691
https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-austin-channing-brown-on-im-still-here-black-dignity-in-a-world-made-for-whiteness/
https://www.chimamanda.com/book/americanah/
Becoming Anti-racist Graphic:
https://umich.app.box.com/s/d1zl3r2dlso7gs76wjfybv9z52m397ho
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How is your work going, WeSTAT Community? TTJ(es) set out to have a conversation about the books and podcasts they have been digging into, but of course, that led them down the road of hard questions and contemplation that will be aired on Monday (6/22). So, this is a prelude to Monday's episode, but also an honest review and a reminder to participate in the 'Black Out Bestseller Lists with Black Voices' initiative, which encourages people to purchase books authored by Black authors between June 14- June 20. In this episode, TTJ(es) discuss Stamped Junior by Ibram X Kendi and I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown.
Show Notes:
http://austinchanning.com/the-book
https://www.powells.com/book/stamped-9780316453691
https://brenebrown.com/podcast/brene-with-austin-channing-brown-on-im-still-here-black-dignity-in-a-world-made-for-whiteness/
For Book Suggestions:
http://www.westories.org/blogposts/2020/4/21/library-to-the-rescue-free-access-to-high-impact-diverse-books-and-stories
Other media suggestions:
https://parade.com/1046031/breabaker/anti-racist-tv-movies-documentaries-ted-talks-books/?fbclid=IwAR267BwbWttUK7jB_3iTr_ldwxp8IBbdJSM48Wuy1bKOpKLlZNImx_9kinI#.XtsxsSCiwGQ.facebook
Black Owned Independent Bookstores:
https://lithub.com/you-can-order-today-from-these-black-owned-independent-bookstores/
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The Two Jess(es) get a chance to chat with their friend and WeSTAT community member, Deirdre Taylor, about working on the front lines of COVID in New York City as a travel nurse for the last two months. Deirdre details her experience working with some of the hardest hit populations in NYC, her reasons for going, and how her family managed in her absence.
This is a hero's story within another hero's story. Deirdre shares her life long search for a fire fighter that had pulled her from a burning building as a child. While Deirdre spent the past weeks fighting for sick patients lives, she was rewarded with the phone number for HER fire fighter...after all these years.
Show Notes:
Deirdre Taylor resides in Alexandria, VA with her husband and two amazing children. She’s a former Army helicopter pilot who became a registered nurse after deciding to leave the military to focus on starting a family. She has spent the majority of her nursing career working in the Emergency Departments of busy, Level 1 trauma centers.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox5dc.com/news/alexandria-nurse-delivers-long-delayed-thank-you-to-nyc-firefighter-who-saved-her-life-when-she-was-a-girl.amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/26/us/nyc-covid-nurse-reunion-firefighter-trnd/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/28/nurse-thanks-firefighter-new-york/
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-rescue-reunion-nurse-firefighter-20200526-s77umpqpb5ajxkppwli7bfrtam-story.html
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This is the first mini in a new series called 'The Great Relearning.' The Two Jess(es) continue in the discomfort as they discuss the work they are doing around listening, learning, and re-learning. Think of this as a season dedicated to reviews of podcasts, books and other resources produced by BIPOC. Jess K discusses the podcast 'While Black' and shares her reflections on a conversation held by five black men recorded on the podcast, and Jess B shares her reaction to Lisa Sharon Harper's and Jen Hatmaker's facebook live conversation on the 'Toxic Tears of White Women.'
Necessary and appropriately uncomfortable...it's the reason WeSTAT started in the first place.
Show Notes:
https://lisasharonharper.com/
https://jenhatmaker.com/
https://whileblackpodcast.podbean.com/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ahmaud-arbery-is-all-of-us-can-i-live/id1410001074?i=1000474291948
https://jenhatmaker.com/podcast/special-edition-series/white-womens-toxic-tears-with-lisa-sharon-harper/
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We are barely even scratching the surface here, with this conversation with Adelaide Lancaster, co-founder and director of strategy for the non-profit organization, We Stories. Based in St. Louis, We Stories aims to hold critical conversations with white families about race, racism, racial justice and health equity.
The Two Jess(es) sit in the discomfort of their own realizations about their own racism, as Adelaide sheds light on what being racist actually means. Adelaide boldly brings stories of her own journey toward becoming anti-racist, and how that work has led her to creating a space for white families (in particular, but ALL are welcome!) to learn about the issues of racial injustice and inequality that they are contributing to. In less than one hour, Adelaide gives TTJ(es) a framework to use as they continue to talk to their children and white friends about racism.
Holding space for each other in this uncomfortable moment, as well as for their brothers and sisters of color, Jess and Jess invite you to begin the work of necessary conversation in these moments of tension and refuse to stand complacent any longer.
***If you are a white parent who is looking for resources and support to start conversations about racial justice with your children, or continue the work you have been doing, this episode will be extremely helpful and beneficial to you.
Show Notes:
To find out more about We Stories:
http://www.westories.org/
Resources:
Forward through Ferguson: https://forwardthroughferguson.org/ The Conscious Kid: https://www.theconsciouskid.org/
The Integrated Schools podcast: https://integratedschools.org/podcast/harvey/
Raising White Kids by Jennifer Harvey: https://www.amazon.com/Raising-White-Kids-Bringing-Children/dp/1501878077/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
Why are all the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria by Beverly Daniel Tatum, PhD.
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465060684/ref=pd_bxgy_img_3/138-0936866-5128960?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0465060684&pd_rd_r=1bcd33fa-c2c3-48a6-b220-db325a3d45c0&pd_rd_w=SYw8C&pd_rd_wg=woJay&pf_rd_p=4e3f7fc3-00c8-46a6-a4db-8457e6319578&pf_rd_r=F34A6NTA07Z2A6VPHHW5&psc=1&refRID=F34A6NTA07Z2A6VPHHW5
The Big Enough Company by Adelaide Lancaster and Amy Abrams: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Enough-Company-Businesses-Happier/dp/1591845602/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+big+enough+company&qid=1591572376&s=books&sr=1-1
Meet Adelaide Lancaster- Co-Founder and Director of Strategy for We Stories:
Adelaide Lancaster is the co-founder and Director of Strategy for We Stories, a St. Louis-based non-profit organization that engages White families to change the conversation about and build momentum towards racial justice and health equity. In less than 5
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The Two Jess(es) talk to three graduating high school seniors about their graduation experience in the middle of historical 2020. They candidly share some of their sadness, and their gratitude, as they talk about the things they have missed during this life milestone. Along with the sadness, there are many silver linings, and the graduates share those as well.
Show Notes:
Meet Kelly Ntambwe!
Hi, I'm Kelly Ntambwe. I'm currently a senior at West Potomac High School but by the time you're reading this I would've "graduated" already. At school I was a part of the Colorguard, a Freshmen Peer Mentor, and a member of the Spanish Honor Society. In the fall, I am really excited to be going to Virginia Commonwealth University in the fall to study Cinema, Theatre, and French.Meet Carolyn Bloom!
My name is Carolyn Bloom and I am a recent graduate of West Potomac High School. Throughout my years at West Potomac I was involved with the dance team, theatre, our schools Student Government Association as well as being involved in student leadership at the county level. I will be attending University of Georgia in the fall.
Meet Brielle Brown!
Hi! My name is Brielle Brown and I am graduating from West Potomac High School. During the past four years I have been a varsity cheerleader, varsity gymnast and varsity track and field runner. I am also a member of the National Honor Society, National English Honor Society, National Science Honor Society, Black Student Union, and Key Club. I will be attending North Carolina A&T State University as a Dowdy Scholar on a full academic scholarship. I will be studying Sports Science and Fitness Management.
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TTJ(es) are joined by owner of Blue Book Essays, Kim Gallagher, to honor the hard work of the graduates of 2020, as well as discuss what college entrance looks like, pre-COVID and now. Kim's specialty lies in helping prospective college students identify the little details of their lives, that can weave together a memorable, and impactful story, that they can use to set their college applications apart.
Kim offers interesting and often surprising information about the college acceptance process, and the conversation touches on capturing the moment when students actually meet themselves for the first time.
Show Notes:
After 20 years of building brands for retailers, nonprofits, banks and soft drinks, Kim Gallagher has started building brands for students applying to college. For two years, Blue Book Essays, her national college essay coaching service, has been helping kids and parents navigate the college essay scene.https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimgallaghercreative
twitter: @kimkopy
instagram: @bluebookessays
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JessK gets REAL about her REALization this week. TOO MANY SCREENS. Deciding enough is enough, she shares her fears and findings as she dives into the rabbit hole of wondering if all this screen time from quarantine is going to have negative effects on her kids, and herself. TTJ(es) discuss a newly released documentary, Screened Out (Jon Hyatt) and the cautionary, data driven, tale, Glow Kids (Nicholas Kardaras, PhD).
This is an extremely uncomfortable conversation on something we are ALL thinking about, and once again, TTJ(es) put themselves out there on the chopping block for the sake of starting a necessary conversation.
PLUS: a bonus track, ATTENTION SPAN by My New Mixtape Studios!
Show Notes:
Screened Out: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6809010/
Glow Kids: https://www.amazon.com/Glow-Kids-Screen-Addiction-Hijacking/dp/1250097991
Article Referenced: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/director-jon-hyatt-explores-kids-getting-screen-time-new-doc-screened-1296013
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This is THE INSPIRING HOUR of your week. The Two Jess(es) have the great honor of speaking with #MeWe International founder, Mohsin Mohi Ud Din, who at many points, leaves them both speechless, as he shares his tireless efforts to help refugees discover the crucial importance of changing their narrative through the art of story telling and communication. Mohsin believes that the ability to communicate is a human right that belongs to EVERYBODY, and that the stories we tell ourselves are what we will become. He has committed his life to serving those who have been told for generations, that they have no voice, and through innovative techniques, backed by neuroscience and experience, he continues to dispel the arrested narratives that follow all of us, throughout our lives.
With beautiful thoughts like assembling a list based on the alchemy of our heroes, and passionately declaring we have the right to change our narrative whenever we want, Mohsin reminds us that that our self expression, our stories, our art, our words, are indeed, the highest form of hope.
Show Notes:
Mohsin Mohi Ud Din is an artist, activist, and founder of #MeWe International Inc. (#MeWeIntl), a global non-profit that builds communications and storytelling interventions for psychological wellbeing, leadership development, and community engagement. His work has received honors from the United Nations, SOLVE MIT and Open Ideo. Mohsin’s innovative work has reached thousands of people across more than 12 countries, beginning with his Fulbright Scholarship in 2010. He has been a featured speaker at the World Economic Forum, United Nations, MIT, TedX, and his work on #MeWeSyria has been published on UNHCR Innovation, VICE, and Al Jazeera.
Video and short film about #MeWeIntl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMjoyfCRgYY&feature=emb_title
https://meweintl.org/
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This week's mini centers around the fact that everywhere TTJ(es) turn, it seems like people are treating their pandemic blues by adding a furry friend into their lives. JessB shares the sadness of having to say good-bye to her beloved dog baby this week, and they discuss the logistics of how COVID could be affecting our lovable furry friends and their future.
Show Notes:
If you are interested in finding out more about pet adoption, or are in need of surrendering a pet, please check out the following organizations.
https://www.homewardtrails.org
https://www.petfinder.com
https://www.lostdogrescue.org/adopt/dogs-for-adoption/#sl_embed&page=shelterluv_wrap_1585435484811%252Favailable_pets%252F6954%253Fspecies%253DDog
https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/home
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JessB is OBSESSED with the Enneagram, and has been for over a decade, so when an opportunity to invite Lynn Turner, PhD, from the Center for Relationships came up, The Two Jess(es) couldn't wait! For those who are unfamiliar with the Enneagram, it is a way of summarizing individual temperaments and aims to lend clarity to the question: Are we nature or are we nurture?
In this episode, we hear from Ms. Turner about her 25+ years working with the Enneagram, and how understanding ourselves and the way we are naturally wired can help us achieve successful relationships, both professionally and personally.
Jess and Jess have a lot of fun as they identify different temperament traits about themselves, and each other. Ah ha moments are had as they begin the beautiful work of learning each other's personalities in a deeper way, as well as their own!
Show Notes:
Lynn Turner, Phd, LCSW
Director- A Center fro Relationships
http://www.ac4r.com
ac4alexandria@gmail.com
Lynn Turner is a licensed clinical social worker with both a masters and doctorate in social work. She has been the Director of A Center For Relationships, Alexandria, VA for more than 20 years. Lynn’s clinical practice includes children, adults, couples, families and groups: people of all ages. In addition, for 30 years she has been leading workshops in relationship skills and emotional processing. For our purposes today she has been teaching the Enneagram to her clients and in workshops since 1995 (25 years).
Lynn will tell you her story of how she learned about the Enneagram and why she considers the Enneagram to be our innate temperament which combined with our family environment creates our personality today. In 1995 Lynn wrote a booklet on the Enneagram and updates it yearly. She is in the process of presenting a proposal for a published book based on her client, brain and energy based understanding of the Enneagram.
Other interesting information about Lynn: She has had a keen interest in understanding emotions, energy and how the brain works. To this end she has studied with all the major proponents of brain research and emotions, including two quantum physicists who taught with Karl Pribram at Georgetown University (1990-1993). Lynn is also a Reiki master and chakra energy healer, both of which have increased her energy awareness.
1These studies have lead Lynn to a deeper understanding of the Enneagram: how our brain is different for each Enneagram type and how we each hold our energy differently. For instance “8” energy can be intimidating without the “8” doing anything, whereas people can almost walk through a “9” or a “2” with their gentle energy and we can be unaware of a “5” being in the room: all based on the energy emitted naturally by each Enneagram style.
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The Two Jess(es) sit down for a very enjoyable 30 minutes to talk with Jane Andraka, the energetic mother to two Wonder Kids. Jane's youngest son, Jack, discovered an early detection test for pancreatic cancer, and is currently using his talents and skills to help in the war against COVID-19. He is an author and professional speaker, as well as the winner of many prestigious awards.
In this conversation, Jane offers a perspective shift in the midst of an educational crisis, promoting the idea that we are actually in the middle of an incredible opportunity to really get to know our kids and what they are passionate about. She encourages parents to pay attention, and serves as a reminder that we are indeed responsible for our children's education, or at least to supplement it. While this could cause a wave of discomfort, she is also endearing in her parenting approach as she encourages parents, mentors, guardians, to savor even the harder moments with their young ones.
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In this episode, TTJ(es) are joined by a third Jess! Jessica Honegger, founder and creator of the popular fair trade accessory line, Noonday Collections. The THREE Jess(es) sit down for a very candid conversation about courage, and going scared anyway.
Jessica shares about the difficult road of adoption, and how funding her adoption led her not only to their son, Jack, but also to her life's purpose, which now supports over 4,000 women economically, around the globe.
Jessica exudes creativity and warmth, and reminds us that our hardships have a purpose so big, we cannot even fathom what is in store.
Show Notes:
Jessica Honegger, is the Founder and co-CEO of Noonday Collection, author of Imperfect Courage, host of the podcast Going Scared, and mom to three littles. She is passionate about encouraging others to leave comfort, go scared, and step into a life of impact.
To learn more about Jessica:
https://jessicahonegger.com/
book: https://jessicahonegger.com/book/imperfect-courage/
jewelry line: https://www.noondaycollection.com/
podcast: https://jessicahonegger.com/podcast/
instagram: @jessicahonegger; @noondaycollections
facebook: @jessicahoneggerofficial
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The WeSTAT Community had a LOT to say about Mother's Day! As one contributor put it, the day is just a mixed bag. A mixed bag of emotions and feelings that run the gamut from grief that is birthed from the loss of our own mothers to the disappointments of motherhood that are only highlighted when we don't feel 'seen' or acknowledged, on this one particular day.
JessB is ever opinionated in her 'take matters into her own hands' kind of way- as she describes the orders she gives her family to ensure she is recognized appropriately (can we say control freak?!) and JessK travels down the road of memory lane to her very first Mother's Day and the total disaster it turned out to be.
No matter how you slice it, the day is loaded with thoughts and expectations that we definitely should be talking about!
Show Notes:
*Excerpts were contributed by listeners by our WeSTAT community. Names (unless permission granted) are withheld for privacy.
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The Two Jess(es) have the extreme pleasure to sit down with the HILARIOUS podcast host and author, John Moe to talk about...DEPRESSION. As May is Mental Health Awareness Month, John Moe's fourth book entitled The Hilarious World of Depression becomes the center of this episode. John is refreshingly candid about his life long struggle with depression, and shares the methods that work for HIM. He talks with JessK and JessB about the many misconceptions around depression and those who fight daily to keep their heads above water. Through analogies and story telling, John explains how he is able to keep working in his purpose- helping us all find a way to exhale in the middle of depression, through laughter, even if we can't get out of bed.
Show Notes:
John Moe has served as host of national public radio broadcasts such as Weekend
America, Marketplace Tech Report and, from 2010- 2015, Wits. His reporting has been heard on All Things Considered, Morning Edition, Marketplace, Day to Day, and more. His writing appears in humor anthologies, The New York Times Magazine, McSweeney’s, and The Seattle Times. He’s a much in-demand public speaker and the author of multiple books, including The Hilarious World of Depression.To find out more about John and his work: https://www.johnmoe.website/
The Hilarious World of Depression available anywhere you can buy books
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0818PT5TD/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0)
twitter: @johnmoe
instagram: @johnmoe
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House of Representatives Huff Post reporter, Matt Fuller, joins TTJ(es) for a conversation about...Corona. In the final stages of COVID-19 recovery, Matt shares his experience with the illness, and frustration, about his physical limitations now, in the aftermath and trying to get actually diagnosed.
A first hand account, Matt details the various symptoms and walks us through the entire process of attempting to get tested.
Show Notes:
Matt Fuller covers the House of Representatives at HuffPost. In 2015, he was the winner of the Everett Dirksen Award — the highest honor for congressional reporting — for a package of stories on the formation of the House Freedom Caucus, and he has covered Congress for a decade. Previously, Matt was a House leadership reporter for Roll Call, and a legislative action reporter for CQ. He is a graduate of Saint Anselm College in New Hampshire, where he majored in politics and founded a joke newspaper.To find out more about Matt:
Twitter: @MEPFuller
email: matt.fuller@huffpost.com
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JessK and JessB get the opportunity to sit down and speak with trauma specialist and EMDR practitioner, Maryalyce Torpy of Rapid Trauma Recovery based in Alexandria, Virginia. In this episode, Maryalyce offers some valuable insight into what we are all experiencing during this traumatic time, and how to navigate our way through the tumult. Having an extensive history with trauma and recovery, both as a person and a professional, Maryalyce gives validation to the anxiety we are all feeling, and offers some simple suggestions we can all employ to get us to the other side of trauma, to living in a space of post traumatic growth.
Show Notes:
MaryAlyce Torpy is a licensed clinical therapist specializing in military trauma, PTSD and moral injury. She began her career serving five years in the Air Force as an A-10 crew chief. Following her time in service, MaryAlyce attained a Master’s Degree in Social Work/International Development, moving over to civil service, providing therapeutic treatment to those returning from combat. Over the past six years, MaryAlyce has established a private practice in Alexandria, VA with a focus on supporting active duty military and veterans. She provides individual therapy with evidence based, effective treatment modalities, specifically EMDR & ART.
MaryAlyce has also conducted public speaking engagements on topics such as: Sleep Solutions for Insomnia, Harnessing the Power of the Brain and Retrain the Brain & Reduce Stress. These seminars have been attended by thousands in the D.C. metro area and broadcast to United States Embassies throughout the Middle East and Africa. For more information on services and seminar topics, please visit RapidTraumaRecovery.com
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The Two Jess(es) had so much fun, with author Jenn Folsom (Ringmaster: Work, Life and Keeping it All Together) they asked her to come back and help them unpack they mystery of LinkedIn. Jenn offers practical advice on keeping your resume with minimal gaps and relevant, regardless of your current work situation.
Jenn brings her trademark humor and wit to the conversation, as well as some really useful tips for those looking to join the 'Land of W-2s.'
Show Notes:
Jennifer Folsom is a dynamic, high-energy leader with a proven record of growing all sizes of professional services firms while growing a family. She is the Vice President of Client Delivery at RIVA Solutions Inc., a Washington, DC- based IT management consulting firm.
A human capital expert, she leverages a people-centered approach to drive revenue in organizations from start-up to Big 4. An-oft quoted expert in corporate culture, Jennifer promotes the notion that the multiple in firm valuation starts with the people. Her colleagues cite one of her greatest strengths as the “ability to cut through the noise to solve an issue.”
She's also the mom of 3 sons, 17-year-old twins and a 12-year old-firecracker. Wife. Daughter. Sister. Friend. Yogi. Old lady soccer team player. Amateur farm-to-table chef. Vegetable gardener. Paddle boarder. Bourbon lover. Runner. Reader. Writer. Jennifer loves her work but knows that living your whole best life is the ultimate key to success.
To Learn More:
Website: jenniferfolsom.net
Email: jenniferfolsom@thefolsoms.net
Instagram: @jennifercfolsom
Facebook: The Ringmaster Project
Twitter: @jenniferfolsom
Medium: @jenn.folsom
LinkedIn: @jenniferfolsom
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Offering many pieces of practical advice on managing the circus of what we call life, Jenn shares her perspective as a working mom of three teenage boys. She gets really honest about the illusiveness of a work life balance, and shows us how we can decide what goes into the rings of our own circus.
Thinking strategically about not being 'mommytracked' at work, getting back into the work force after taking time off, and having the fortitude to ask for what you are worth, Jenn offers invaluable nuggets of wisdom for women as they juggle all.the.things.
Referencing the current crisis, as many of us are all trying to work from home and home school our kids, she says the silver lining is that the whole world is now an audience to the struggle of the working parent. Jenn gets really honest about lowering the expectations for ourselves right now, but also using this time to think and plan strategically for when the world resumes some sort of normality.
Show Notes:
Jennifer Folsom is a dynamic, high-energy leader with a proven record of growing all sizes of professional services firms while growing a family. She is the Vice President of Client Delivery at RIVA Solutions Inc., a Washington, DC- based IT management consulting firm.
A human capital expert, she leverages a people-centered approach to drive revenue in organizations from start-up to Big 4. An-oft quoted expert in corporate culture, Jennifer promotes the notion that the multiple in firm valuation starts with the people. Her colleagues cite one of her greatest strengths as the “ability to cut through the noise to solve an issue.”
She's also the mom of 3 sons, 17-year-old twins and a 12-year old-firecracker. Wife. Daughter. Sister. Friend. Yogi. Old lady soccer team player. Amateur farm-to-table chef. Vegetable gardener. Paddleboarder. Bourbon lover. Runner. Reader. Writer. Jennifer loves her work but knows that living your whole b est life is the ultimate key to success.
To Learn More:
Website: jenniferfolsom.net
Email: jenniferfolsom@thefolsoms.net
Instagram: @jennifercfolsom
Facebook: The Ringmaster Project
Twitter: @jenniferfolsom
Medium: @jenn.folsom
LinkedIn: @jenniferfolsom
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Join TTJ(es) for a break from all the madness to talk about pockets. More specifically, the history behind pockets in clothing, why they disappeared from women's clothing and the shared excitement we feel, as women, when we find surprise pockets in a new dress.
Why do little boys pants have pockets and girls' pants don't? Jess and Jess challenge this design with their wit and shared frustration.
Show Notes:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/15/why-girls-need-pockets/
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/the-gender-politics-of-pockets/380935/
https://www.fastcompany.com/90262598/pockets
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In this episode, TTJ(es) have the privilege of sitting down for a heart to heart with nationally recognized speaker, author of Taking My Life Back, and podcast host of The Rebekah Gregory Show, (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rebekah-gregory-show/id1497445188) Rebekah Gregory.
Almost seven years ago, TO THE DAY, Rebekah was attending the Boston Marathon as a spectator, with her five year old son, Noah, when a terrorist attack changed her life, her body, and the way she saw the world, forever.
In this very candid conversation, Rebekah takes us back to that day, why she was there in the first place and talks to us about 'the obligation to be grateful.' Rebekah gets really honest about what it's like to survive survival so publicly, finding purpose in the tragedy, and picking up the pieces of a life you never expected to live.
Rebekah brings an approachable inspiration with her optimism, honesty and laughter.
Show Notes:
Rebekah Gregory is a nationally recognized public speaker & author whose life was forever changed due to the bombings at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013. This act of terrorism may have claimed her leg, but it could not claim her spirit. Since then, Rebekah has used her platform in a huge way by traveling all over the country speaking out against evil, and encouraging people to turn their obstacles into opportunities.
In 2017, Rebekah had her first book "Taking My Life Back" published. Shortly after, she launched Rebekah's Angels Foundation, which she and her husband created to fund mental health treatment for children and families suffering from trauma.To learn more about Rebekah go to:https://www.rebekahsangels.org
https://www.rebekahmgregory.com
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JessB gets honest about her mounting anxiety and how it is affecting her physically, so TTJ(es) bring on yoga teacher and artist, Winnie Lee, to get her advice and expertise on how to cope and breathe. In this episode, Winnie gives some very simple and practical tips on what we can do to help keep our anxiety at bay by treating ourselves gently in such a confusing time.
Show Notes:
Winnie Lee can be contacted at http://www.winnieleeyoga.com and can be found teaching at https://radiance-yoga.net.
*Beginning Monday, April 27, from 5pm-6pm, Winnie will be leading a zoom yoga class for anxiety relief through Radiance Yoga. You can register through their website.
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Continuing on with their remote conversations, TTJ(es) chat with Rachel Kois (like the fish, plural!) from Simple Switch, a company that believes in having a 'quantifiable impact on the world and the people in it.'
Rachel walks The Two Jess(es) through the process and reality, of where their dollars go when spent with Simple Switch, her idea for making positive impact shopping effortless for all of us out there who don't have time to do the research around ethical purchasing, and shares inspiring stories about all the incredible initiatives we can be a part of when we buy everyday household items through Simple Switch.
Show Notes:
*All WeSTAT community members will receive 20% off their first order at www.simpleswitch.org!***
About Rachel:
Rachel Kois is the Founder and CEO of Simple Switch (simpleswitch.org) an online marketplace for ethical and impactful shopping. She believes fiercely that our everyday shopping can change the world, so she started Simple Switch to make sure there is a solid option for conscious consumers that matches the convenience of modern online shopping. She’s made friends in 28 countries and grew up with the beautiful Colorado mountains as her playground, so taking care of our planet and the people on it are very important to her.
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The Two Jess(es) are joined with the ever entertaining Mary Payne Gilbert, host of the podcast 'Payne In the Pod' and co-host of 'Hey Bunkie.' If you are into learning more about the 'MUST HEAR' podcasts and (let's be honest, we all are) binge worthy series like 'Tiger King,' then Mary Payne has a LOT to say about All.The.Things.
A lighter mini that offers some ever 'helpful' information in these days of quarantine, you will leave this conversation with your interest piqued and a long list of things to watch while sheltering in place.
Show Notes:
Find Mary Payne Gilbert at:
https://payneinthepod.com
https://www.patreon.com/heybunkie
https://www.facebook.com/PayneInThePod/
https://www.instagram.com/payneinthepod/?hl=en
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In a time where the majority of us are undoubtedly using alcohol to soothe our weary and nervous minds, The Two Jess(es) sit down with special guest, Martha Carucci, creator of the blog Sobrietease (www.sobrietease.wordpress.com) and author of Sobrietease (https://www.amazon.com/Sobrietease-Martha-Carucci/dp/0692686908/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=sobrietease&qid=1585406822&sr=8-1) and her upcoming sequel, Sobrietease II: Make it a Double to talk about...ALCOHOL.This episode goes deep into Martha's struggle with addiction to alcohol, the moment she finally surrendered to her own personal truth, and celebrates the community of women that brought her to her nearly eight years (and still going strong) of sobriety. Martha offers the retelling of her own experience as a beautiful example of the strength it takes to turn one's own 'mess into a message' in a way that certainly will leave you feeling accepted, strengthened and inspired.
Show Notes:
Martha Carucci is an author/blogger who lives in Alexandria, VA with her husband and three children. She spent many years as a lobbyist for the telecommunications industry and is currently the Executive Director of the National Breast Center Foundation. She studied at the University of Pennsylvania, Harvard and Georgetown.
Martha’s first book, Sobrietease, was the #1 New Release on Amazon for Alcoholism and Recovery. Her second book, Sobrietease 2: Make It a Double, is due out this summer. She continues to write her blog and is currently working on a novel.
Martha Carucci has appeared on numerous television and radio shows, including Great Day Washington, The Dee Armstrong Show, The Chad Benson Show and the Mike Schikman Show. Her writing has been featured in many publications, including The Chicago Sun Times, BrazenWoman.com, WomenYouShouldKnow.com, and The Tamed Cynic. She speaks to various groups and audiences about alcoholism and her recovery.
Martha was awarded the City of Alexandria Commission for Women’s “Women’s Health and Safety Advocate Award.” She is an avid golfer and tennis player and active volunteer in the community.
Visit Martha's blog Sobrietease at www.sobrietease.wordpress.org
On Facebook at @sobrieteaseblog
On Instagram at @Sobrietease
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Spend a little time with TTJ(es) as Jess B shares her favorite herbs for relieving anxiety in these tumultuous times. As we continue to watch the unknown unfold, and inevitably find ourselves in need of some ways of self soothing, Jess B offers some alternatives to the regulars!
Show Notes:
Herbalist References:
Rosemary Gladstar:
https://learningherbs.com/rosemarys-remedies/
Aviva Romm:
https://avivaromm.com
Tincture Recommendations:
Motherwort Tincture:
https://www.amazon.com/Herb-Pharm-Certified-Motherwort-Endocrine/dp/B00014H78S/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=motherwort+tincture&qid=1585274919&sr=8-5
Skullcap Tincture:
https://www.amazon.com/Herb-Pharm-Certified-Organic-Skullcap/dp/B000PIMTNS/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=skullcap+tincture&qid=1585275060&sr=8-5
Velarian Root:
https://www.amazon.com/Herb-Pharm-Certified-Valerian-Relaxation/dp/B006JG5SW4/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=valerian+root+tincture&qid=1585275116&sr=8-2
Kava Tea:
https://www.amazon.com/Yogi-Tea-Tension-Promotes-Relaxation/dp/B0009F3QKW/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1RF9MJE4ZPH2V&dchild=1&keywords=kava+tea+organic&qid=1585275156&sprefix=kava+tea%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-2
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And we should DEFINITELY talk about that. JessB and JessK the only thing that is on everyone's minds at this point: corona, homeschooling (yes or no?), their different approaches and reactions to the never ending news intake as well as what social distancing looks like to them and their families. TTJ(es) finish off this 40 minute conversation using a technique JessB has relied on in some of the more scarier circumstances of her life. The bottom line is that no-one knows what is going on, or how this thing is going to turn out, but through their conversation, they hope everyone listening feels less isolated and alone.
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Picking up from where they left off in Episode 18: Body Image, the Two Jesses are joined once again by guests Diana Adkins and Elizabeth Bober. The discussion starts off with the experience of getting naked at a Korean Spa, continues into JessK's recent weight loss, and asks the question "who is really judging our bodies at our neighborhood pools?" This is a lighter look at our aging bodies and why it's so hard to be naked with ourselves and each other.
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In the first of what is sure to be a series of episodes on body image, we ask, "Do we ever get to relax?" Botox, wrinkles, weight loss, and weight gain-the pendulum swinging of experiencing life in the body of a woman. The Two Jesses are joined once again with the grace, humor, wisdom and honesty of their friends: Diana and Elizabeth. Together, this group of 40-something women share the origins of their "body stories" and their experiences of aging while trying to navigate how their children will view them and themselves.
Link to JessB's article:
https://www.scarymommy.com/40-doesnt-have-look-like-new-20/
Link to JessK's article:
https://bluntmoms.com/aging-with-grace/
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The Two Jess(es) could NOT pass up an opportunity to discuss why everyone is buying so much toilet paper and what to do if school does NOT get cancelled. Bringing in special guest, Liz Fontaine, these three ladies have a head scratching conversation about whether or not they should shake a stranger's hand or drink Corona beer.
Show Notes:
Liz references a statistic that reports 38% of Americans polled think Corona beer is somehow related to the corona virus.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barrons.com/amp/articles/americans-say-they-wont-drink-corona-because-of-coronavirus-but-sales-are-up-5-51583610529
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WARNING SUBJECT IS INFANT LOSS***
In this episode, The Two Jess(es) sit down and connect over a conversation with designer Sara Raak of SKG Design and Styles about the loss of her son, Bennett. With love, Sara discusses the harsh realities of being a NICU mom, TWICE, and explains how she has turned her pain into a source of pride as she continues to allow others into the extraordinary journey of her son's legacy. Despite the heaviness of this topic, Sara is able to weave laughter and light throughout her storytelling in a beautiful way. For more information on how to support the Bennett Raak Foundation, see the show notes.
Show Notes:
The Bennett Raak Foundation seeks to raise money in order to continue to have a dedicated Family Support Specialist for the Medstar Georgetown University Hospital NICU. HIstorically, the NICU has shared a Family Support Specialist with Pediatrics, which spreads the FSS thin, giving priority to the Pediatric unit. Because of the support given by the Bennett Raak Foundation, the NICU now has a dedicated Family Support Specialist and their longterm goal is to continue paying the salary for that position as well as supporting additional programs that benefit the families in the NICU. If you would like to donate to the fund for the Bennett D. Raak Family Support Specialist you can do so at this link: http://www.giving.medstarhealth.org/nicufamilysupport
A Note From Sara on Bereavement:
A friend and fellow Georgetown NICU parent started an amazing website called Evermore. Joyal lost her sweet daughter and when she was in her darkest moments of grieving sought resources to help walk her, her family and friends through the fog of bereavement. She realized there was very little avaialble to those who despereately needed assistance. As a result she started Evermore. While most Americans will experience bereavement during their lifetime, the topic receives little attention in our nation’s discourse on public health priorities, health equity, and the well-being of children and families. Our nation can do better. We are working every day to bring more and better resources to families and the professionals who serve them. Bereavement care in America is broken. We hope you will join us to make the world a more livable place for bereaved individuals, families and communities. This is an organization to assist anyone who has lost a loved one. https://www.live-evermore.org/
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In this minisode, TTJ(es) discuss some of the newest research that claims we (as Americans) will reach our "most unhappiest" by the time we turn 47.2 years old. Unsurprisingly, they think we should talk about THAT, and have a LOT to say about their impending unhappiness, the Sandwich Generation, and bathroom mirror pep talks on cheerfulness.
Show Notes:
https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/scientists-just-discovered-mid-life-crisis-peaks-at-age-47-heres-how-to-minimize-effect-of-happiness-curve.html
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In this episode, TTJ(es) get clear on their WHY's of starting the WeSTAT podcast. They discuss their mission statement and the 7 C's, a list of attributes that they hope to achieve through their continued pursuit of honest and authentic conversation.
Show Notes:
Mission Statement:
Inspiring our community to uncover their purpose through the exploration of authentic conversation and the fostering of safe connections in order to build a culture of belonging.
WeSTAT 7 C's:
1. Curiosity
2. Conversation
3. Communication
4. Connection
5. Collaboration
6. Creation
7. CommunityFor information on the 7 C's and the WeSTAT Mission- be sure to visit our website at www.westatpod.com.
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This minisode is full of fun and surprises as The Two Jess(es) go through the long box of WeSTAT topic cards that you, the listeners, have provided. What do women REALLY want to talk about? Turns out their list is a mile long and they will never run out of topics! Menopause, the death of friendships, low points of motherhood...TTJ(es) can't wait to start the conversation!
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In episode 12 of WeSTAT, JessK shares a deeply uncomfortable moment from the archives: grappling with her daughter's Asperger’s Syndrome diagnosis and whether to share it, with whom to share it, and when. Throughout the 40 minutes of this recording, JessK starts at the very beginning of their journey and takes us down the emotional road she and her husband had to travel as they worked to get their daughter support, the angels they encountered along the way, and what it still means for her, for them.
Packed with statistics, useful information, and resources, above all, this episode is a love letter to her little girl. JessK shares her story as a tribute to those who hold the hands of children with special needs, and allows us to be a part of the emotional process of the retelling. She will leave you with a “moment of joy” as she highlights the work of the Eliza Hope Foundation (https://elizahope.org) and updates us on her daughter's amazing accomplishments thus far.
Show Notes:
Center for Disease Control: https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html
Reference for girls being mislabeled:
https://childmind.org/article/autistic-girls-overlooked-undiagnosed-autism/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/autism-it-s-different-in-girls/
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In this week's WeSTAT mini, The Two Jess(es), inspired by a run in with a friend, ponder the things that they used to love doing, or rather, things they have completely forgotten they know how to do! This conversation will definitely get you thinking, and maybe lead you to explore the hobbies that life has forced you to forget!
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Death. It's pretty much the only thing we can count on. Whether you want to think about it or not, it happens to us all. But why are we so scared of actually TALKING about it? In this episode, TTJ(es) invite two friends into the room, one who is having to face the reality of her own mortality much sooner than any of us would expect. Together, they tackle end of life planning, the logistics around how they would like their body handled after they die, and all the different options they didn't know existed.
If you are curious about the death positivity movement, need to pull the trigger (pun intended!) and write that will, or the idea of either being buried in a mushroom suit or having your ashes scattered at Disney World intrigues you, this episode will leave you with the resolve to go out and talk to your loved ones about what you want, as well as what THEY need.
Show Notes:
"Why Millennials are the Death Positive Generation."
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2020/1/15/21059189/death-millennials-funeral-planning-cremation-green-positive
Special Guests:
Elizabeth Bober (@bookbeealexandria)
Elizabeth Bober is the founder and Executive Director of Book Bee, a nonprofit dedicated to ensuring all children experience the joy of reading by collecting books from families who have outgrown them and delivering them to programs serving children in poverty. Elizabeth lives outside of Washington, DC, with her two children, husband, geriatric rabbit, and glow-in-the-dark-fish.
Diana AdkinsDiana Adkins is a daughter, sister, wife and momma of 3 crazy kids. She works full time as a marketer but more importantly loves spending time with family and friends, drinking tasty wine, dancing and traveling the world. Conquering cancer since 2017; she’s still getting comfortable with being called a badass.
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The Two Jess(es) get really honest about what they want for Valentine's Day, AND what they DON'T want!! A quick little laugh about their beliefs around the holiday as they describe their perfect evening with their respective partners. If you like bubbles, Thai food and stretchy pants, you will love this minisode!
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Have you ever suffered from imposter syndrome, felt like a fraud, convinced yourself that your story is not worth being told, because who cares what you have to say? If so, you are not alone! In this episdode, TTJ (The Two Jess(es) get really honest about their longstanding wrestling match with imposter syndrome as writers, podcasters and women. JessK introduces the concept of a 'Doubt Hole' and together, they outline a list of rungs that helps them build a ladder out of doubt, into the great wide openness of self- acceptance and pursuing one's dreams.
Show Notes:
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome
2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/taraswart/2019/08/08/why-you-need-to-understand-the-neuroscience-of-imposter-syndrome/#46eda13080e7
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If the V word makes you uncomfortable, you're welcome! AND, you might want to listen to this one without your kids around!
Everyone is talking about the 2020 Super Bowl Half Time show, and of course, The Two Jess(es) have something to say about it! In this minisode, JessK and JessB have a celebratory conversation about women over 40 rocking their bods on a pole, the over sexualization of women in America, and the importance of showing our daughters that we can still shake our money makers! This is definitely 13 minutes of fun!
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TTJ(es) (The Two Jess(es) share their personal experiences with grief. JessB lost her mother suddenly 10 years ago, and JessK lost her mother through illness four years ago. In this episode they tackle the process of grieving, anything, but especially grieving the one who brought them into the world. TTJ(es) take a look at the culture of grieving from a societal standpoint and how that differs from the experience of mourning, discuss the non-linear aspect of their sorrow and while there are a lot of tears in this one, there is a lot of laughter connecting them to the beauty of their memories, experiences, as well as reflections on the realization that grief is indeed, a gift.
Show Notes:The Gift of Grief by Jessica Kidwell:https://www.writebitchwrite.com/december/2020/1/3/personal-essay-jessica-kidwell
*Showcased at the end of this episode is an original song written by the following:
The song: The Wreckage Of Why, was written collaboratively by Lindsay Herring (vocal), Norman Salant (guitar), Tammy Shaw (vocal), and Andrea Tom, during a songwriting workshop in the fall of 2019.
The Wreckage of Why
The years stack up like old coffee cups
The kitchen’s so quiet
Should I just burn it down
I wish I could tell you once more how I love you
Oh I wish
But there’s no one around
I’m looking for answers in the wreckage of why
Wondering will I come back again
A sliver of honey in a fallen sky
Somehow a sweetness remains
I’m always half-right
I’m always half-blind
I’ve tilled all the memories at the end of the day
The pull of the past ain’t a reason for leaving
But a house ain’t a reason to stay
So I’m looking for answers in the wreckage of why
Wondering will I come back again
A sliver of honey in a fallen sky
Somehow a sweetness remains
I’m looking for answers in the wreckage of why
Wondering will I come back again
A sliver of honey in a fallen sky
Somehow the sweetness remains
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In this first WeSTAT Minisode, The Two Jess(es) outline their list of things they DON'T do. Inspired by the viral article written by Australian writer, Holly Wainwright. (https://www.mamamia.com.au/i-dont-list/).
As is their style, they get a little deep and 'unpacky' with their "I DON'T List," but they also have a lot of fun, mostly at each other's expense!
TTJ's invite you into their conversation, as they encourage every woman to write their own "I DON'T List."
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Join JessK and JessB as they explore the definitions of authenticity and oversharing, and what it truly means to them. How does their pursuit for authenticity and true vulnerability affect others around them? And does it matter? Get ready for an honest and at times, uncomfortable, conversation centered around their own personal truths and the challenging of emotions that motivate us to share in the first place. How do we find safe people to share our vulnerable selves with? How do we decide if someone is worth our authentic time? The Two Jess(es) cover a lot of ground in this episode.
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In this episode JessB gets really honest and uncomfortable as she admits that, while she loves her children with all her heart, she is often conflicted with the need to create and 'do her own thing' which means her children have to fend for themselves sometimes! JessK gets equally uncomfortable as she examines her mothering style and the two Jess(es) dive in deep on the theory of 'The Good Enough Mother' by Dr. D.W. Winicott, British pediatrician and psychoanalyst. Together, they approach an incredibly challenging and often sensitive topic and in their totally authentic style, examine their tendencies toward perfection and the need for control as real causes of the 'mental load.'
Show Notes:
Resource List:
-https://www.seleni.org/advice-support/2018/3/14/the-gift-of-the-good-enough-mother-https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/suffer-the-children/201605/what-is-good-enough-mother
-https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/parenting/mental-load.html
-https://gen.medium.com/kids-dont-damage-women-s-careers-men-do-eb07cba689b8
-Enough by Shnauna Aher (https://glutenfreegirl.com/about/)
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In this episode, Jess Buchanan shares a few details about her kidnapping experience by Somali land pirates while working in Africa in 2011 and her eventual rescue by SEAL TEAM VI. This conversation mainly focuses on the struggle to survive life, after you have done the work of surviving the trauma. How do you walk through your day when you are carrying the weight of PTSD, postpartum anxiety, and a book tour? For the first time, JessB gets really honest, authentic and raw, about her recovery journey and where she is now.
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In this first episode of WeSTAT, The Two Jess(es) share their story of a writer's blind date, how the concept of We Should Talk About That came to be as a result of that date, and why they believe in the crucial importance of living an open and honest life with ourselves, and each other.
This is an introduction, an explanation and an invitation to the conversations about all the things no-one is talking about but should. As they touch on the subjects of grief, connection, the power in putting yourself out there, and the wild ride of collaboration and service to each other, their authenticity will make you laugh with discomfort, sigh in commiseration, and nod your head in agreement for all the right reasons.
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