Anything But Law: Recent Episodes
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We love law, but we don't always want to talk about it. Who are we outside the boardroom and courtroom? In this show, we explore how our multiple purposes collide and ask the question: where does our motivation to work come from? Community and business leaders join us to share personal stories about their passions, how they stay driven, and what makes them tick.
In this special episode of Anything but Law, host Mark McAuley takes a rare deep dive into the realities of practicing law—exploring what law school doesn’t teach you but should. Joined by Lerners colleague Mitch Brown and Acting Dean Andrew Botterell from Western Law, the conversation unpacks the "hidden curriculum" of law school, the practical skills gap many young lawyers face, and how legal education prepares—or fails to prepare—graduates for the real-world demands of private practice.
Drawing on their own experiences, Mark and Mitch discuss their transition from Toronto to London, Ontario, and the differences in legal markets, firm structures, and mentorship opportunities. Acting Dean Botterell provides insights into the evolution of legal education and the growing role of technology, while Mitch and Mark reflect on the importance of practical training, mentorship, and the skills young lawyers need to succeed.
The episode also takes a candid look at mental health and burnout in the legal profession, why so many junior lawyers leave private practice within five years, and what can be done to improve retention, job satisfaction, and work-life balance. With engaging anecdotes, real-world insights, and a focus on solutions, this discussion is essential listening for law students, new lawyers, and anyone curious about the challenges of legal practice.
Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of the legal industry, the expectations of law firms, and how to navigate the transition from student to practicing lawyer with confidence.
Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Aaron Murray – Charterhouse Studios (Season 1,3), Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio (Season 2) Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley
In this dynamic episode of Anything But Law, host Mark McAuley moderates a live panel featuring three prominent figures in the Canadian music industry. Join us as we dive into a captivating discussion with Juno Award-Winning Music Producer Dan Brodbeck, strategic Industry Leader Margaret McGuffin of Music Publishers Canada, and versatile Artist and Festival Director Melanie Brulé. Together, they explore how their unique paths and early musical influences continue to shape their contributions to the music world today.
From the role of education in shaping the next generation of music professionals to the importance of community and collaboration, this episode sheds light on the evolving landscape of the music industry. Our panelists share personal stories, the pivotal moments in their careers, and how diverse roles—from advocacy to production—contribute to a thriving music ecosystem.
Whether you're an aspiring musician, an industry professional, or simply a lover of music, this conversation provides inspiring insights into how passion and innovation are fueling the future of the Canadian music scene. Recorded at Charterhouse Studios, this episode is packed with practical takeaways on networking, career-building, and the significant impact of community engagement in the arts.
Don’t miss this inspiring episode as we bridge the gap between law and music, celebrating the creativity and collaboration that drive the industry forward.
Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Aaron Murray – Charterhouse Studios (Season 1,3), Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio (Season 2) Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley
What if success in business isn’t just about strategy, but about authenticity and emotional intelligence? In this episode, Jake Karls, co-founder of Mid-Day Squares, shares his journey from making chocolate in his home kitchen to building a global brand. Jake emphasizes the power of transparency, personal support, and community in shaping his success. He opens up about how his marriage and family relationships serve as pillars through the challenges of entrepreneurship.
Jake also explores the transformative role therapy plays in business. Initially hesitant, he now sees it as an essential investment in both personal and professional growth. In a candid discussion, he highlights the importance of balancing ambition with mental well-being and how therapy has strengthened his leadership at Mid-Day Squares.
Tune in as Jake reflects on his Forbes 30 Under 30 recognition, navigating burnout, and staying true to his mission of connection and authenticity. Through stories of failure, resilience, and family dynamics, this episode offers invaluable insights for entrepreneurs looking to build not just successful companies, but meaningful, purpose-driven lives.
Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Aaron Murray – Charterhouse Studios (Season 1,3), Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio (Season 2) Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley
How does a dream of becoming a lawyer transform into a top executive role in sports marketing? In this episode, we sit down with Julian Franklin, Vice President of Partnership Development and Strategy at Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, to explore his unconventional career path. Julian’s story begins with an unexpected pivot from law school aspirations to a marketing internship with the Toronto Blue Jays, eventually leading him to executive roles at major brands like Kraft Heinz and his own successful agency.
Julian opens up about the pivotal decisions, challenges, and mentors that shaped his career, offering listeners a behind-the-scenes look at the world of sports marketing and partnerships. His deep passion for storytelling, community-driven campaigns, and calculated risk-taking shines through as he shares valuable lessons learned from years of leading marketing initiatives for iconic brands and organizations.
Whether you are an up-and-coming marketer or a seasoned professional, Julian's insights on the power of storytelling, collaboration, and mentorship are both inspiring and actionable. Learn how to navigate complex business landscapes, balance risk and reward, and make career moves that align with your personal values and goals.
Additionally, Julian provides a unique perspective on the cultural differences between Canadian and U.S. markets, the emotional side of consumer engagement, and the growing importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DE&I) in marketing. He reflects on successful campaigns like Kraft Hockeyville and shares how MLSE’s teams, from the Toronto Maple Leafs to the Raptors, are shaping the vibrant culture of Toronto.
Tune in for an insightful and inspiring conversation with one of sports marketing’s most influential figures, and discover what it takes to thrive in this dynamic industry.
Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Aaron Murray – Charterhouse Studios (Season 1,3), Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio (Season 2) Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley
During her first year of law school, Piper Riley Thompson battled depression and doubt, often questioning if she was on the right path. In this episode, she opens up about her remarkable journey of resilience and self-discovery, which led her to become a career advisor and Ontario bar exam coach. Drawing strength from her grandmother's wisdom, Piper’s story is filled with pivotal moments that offer both hope and practical advice to anyone considering a career in law.
Piper's journey highlights the unexpected turns a legal career can take, showing how she transitioned from practising law to a fulfilling role at the University of Calgary. She shares valuable insights on how law graduates can adapt to the fast-changing legal landscape, with a focus on career pivots and the growing role of technology in the profession.
From personal growth to embracing neurodiversity, Piper candidly discusses her ADHD diagnosis and her weight loss journey during law school. Her reflections on mental health and body positivity are both enlightening and empowering. Plus, hear about her viral TikTok moment and her humorous take on balancing personal branding with authenticity. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking for inspiration, offering a fresh perspective on the many dimensions of life as a legal professional.
Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Aaron Murray – Charterhouse Studios (Season 1,3), Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio (Season 2) Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley
Ever wonder if there’s a better way to learn and practice law? In this episode, Mark chats with Aaron Baer, a trailblazer in the legal tech world, who took his early frustrations as a young lawyer and turned them into a fresh approach to legal education and practice. Aaron shares how he identified major gaps in traditional law training and his journey from a typical law firm to creating 4L Academy, where he introduced hands-on, practical training during the pandemic. His story is all about bridging the gap between theory and real-world experience for junior lawyers.
We also dig into how Aaron’s practical approach, including playbooks and streamlined processes, is reshaping the way law firms operate as we discuss Aaron's time at Renno & Co., where he empowered junior lawyers to handle tasks usually left to senior lawyers. Plus, we explore Aaron’s focus on neurodiversity, as he pushes for a legal profession that values and benefits from diverse ways of thinking.
Beyond that, we dive into the big issues facing law firms today—such as aligning firm values with employee wellbeing, leadership, mental health, and the exciting potential of AI to make legal work more efficient. Aaron’s vision for the future of law is filled with practical solutions that aim to create a more supportive, innovative, and inclusive profession.
This episode is packed with insightful takeaways that will leave you rethinking what’s possible in the legal world. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that could change how you see the future of law.
Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Aaron Murray – Charterhouse Studios (Season 1,3), Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio (Season 2) Graphic Design: The Branding Firm Inc. (Season 3), Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley
In this episode of Anything But Law, we explore the extraordinary journey of Miranda Ayim, a three-time Olympian who has transitioned from a world-class basketball player to a leading advocate for mental wellness and empowerment. Miranda opens up about her experiences as the captain of the Canadian national team, her challenges with injuries, and how she discovered the importance of mental and emotional health. Now a mental wellness coach, Miranda shares valuable insights on leadership, resilience, and the deep connection between mind and body. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that transcends the world of sports and offers lessons for life.
Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio Graphic Design: Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley
What does it take to achieve Olympic gold and inspire the next generation? Join us in the Season 3 premiere of Anything But Law as we uncover the story of Damian Warner, the celebrated decathlete from London, Ontario. From childhood games to Olympic glory, Damian shares his journey, the impact of educators, and the pivotal moments that shaped his path.
Discover how his love for sports, sparked by basketball legend Vince Carter, led to an unexpected passion for track and field. Learn about his rigorous training, the balancing act of fatherhood, and the unwavering support from his long-time coach. Damian’s story is one of resilience, dedication, and humility, offering valuable life lessons and inspiration.
Tune in for insights into overcoming adversity, the pressures and rewards of being a role model, and the vital role of family support in an athlete's journey. This episode promises to leave you inspired by Damian Warner's incredible perseverance and triumph.
Presented by: Lerners LLP Hosted by: Mark McAuley Executive Production: Natalee Davis Project Management: Dylan Willems Audio Engineering: Chandra Bulucon - Puppy Machine Recording Studio Graphic Design: Jen Luchka and Dawn Yan Theme and Underlying Music: Mark McAuley and Randy McAuley
This week, Mark talks to chief people officer at Right to Play, Nikki Da Silva. Join them as they chat about her passion for people and culture, the importance of getting to know one another, and the impact it has on fostering team mentality. They also talk about "Right to Play" and the role of passion in driving business forward.
Mark chats with business executive, people leader, and Senior VP of Financial services at IG Wealth Management, Marissa Teeter. Listen as they talk about the importance of developing and teaching financial literacy, giving back through charity work, and her passion for community.
On this episode of Anything But Law, Mark sits down with fellow Lerners Lawyer, Emily Fan. A Partner at the firm and passionate defence class actions and commercial litigator, Emily describes her path to a career in law, and the importance of developing emotional intelligence while taking care of your mental health. They also talk about mentors who have helped them get to where they are, and passions that keep them grounded.
On this episode of Anything but Law, Mark McAuley sits down with mentor, entrepreneur, and philanthropist Michael Hyatt. Listen as they chat about Michael’s role as an investor, what he does and doesn’t look for in great companies, and how to know when you got it right. They also discuss the post-covid era of work culture, and how his definition of success has changed throughout the years.
This week on Anything But Law, Mark McAuley sits down with Goodmans LLP associate Randy McAuley, and VP of Atlantic Global Risk, David St. Bernard. Listen as they talk about childhood memories, getting to where they are now, and the importance of having good role models.
In our third episode of Anything But Law, Mark chats with Juno Award-winning, Grammy-nominated musical engineer and producer, Dan Brrodbeck. Listen as they talk about Dan's career in the music industry, the art of conveying knowledge, and how effective communication is contextual.
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In our first episode, Host Mark McAuley sits down with Theatre Producer and Co-Founder of M/Y Storycreative, Michael Rubinoff! Tune in to listen to Michael's journey as a producer, and how he strives to make the art of storytelling more authentic.
In our second episode of Anything But Law, Mark McAuley talks to Michael and Ashley Athill, the brother-sister duo behind HRVSTR Cannabis. Tune in to hear how they set the course as Canada's first Black-owned Licensed Producer (LP), and listen to them describe some of the challenges they've faced along the way.