Let's Rethink This

Date: April 4, 2022

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Part Two: Celebrating Black History with Michelle and Pearl

Brief summary of show: We’re back with a second episode talking about the importance of celebrating Black History. In this episode, we talk about some lesser-known icons of Black history and issues of discrimination and stigma in healthcare.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

0:40 - 5:15 Black History Icon Maya Angelou

5:25 - 11:39 Sydney Poitnier & Cecily Tyson

12:22 - 21:19 Healthcare for Black Americans

22:43 - 25:05 How to Support Better Healthcare Practices without Biases

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Date: March 28, 2022

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Integrating Physical & Mental Health with Michael and Janice

Brief summary of show: This week, Michael and Janice join Abby to discuss the importance of integrating physical and mental healthcare and how the Healthcare Home program at Independence Center supports members’ health goals.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:13 - 1:52 Michael's background

1:53 - 3:34 Janice's Background

6:25 - 6:57 HCH in Other States

7:18 - 11:17 Day to Day in HCH Program

11:37 - 20:18 Eligibility for HCH & Accessibility for Members

20:45 - 22:58 Coordination of Care

23:32 - 25:56 Benefits for Members

26:06 - 28:13 Evolution of Healthcare Homes

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Independence Center

Healthcare Home

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Date: March 21, 2022

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Celebrating Black History with Pearl & Michelle

Brief summary of show: This week I am speaking with two Independence Center members, Pearl and Michelle about Black History Month and how members and staff have been celebrating this month. Pearl and Michelle both participate in the member led group, The Conversation Stars Here. This group meets weekly, and their mission is to “promote unity, dialogue, action, and education to create a safe, antiracist, and equitable atmosphere of belonging. This group discusses all types of diversity, equity, and inclusion matters but for the purposes of this conversation we will be speaking about Black History Month.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:15 - 2:30 Pearl & Michelle's Background

3:09 - 5:05 Black History Month

5:15 - 5:56 Why Celebrating Black History is Important for Black People

6:31 - 7:53 Establishment of Conversation Starts Here

8:09 - 11:14 How 'Conversation Starts Here' Benefits Members

11:23 - 14:12 Why It's Important to Celebrate Black History Month in February

16:03 - 21:57 Celebrations of Black History

25:31 - 28:42 Blackfishing or Passing for Black

28:53 - 29:36 Celebrating Diversity

35:03 - 37:11 Stigma of Mental Illness in the Black Community

37:11 - 40:15 Importance of Black Providers in Mental Health Settings

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Independence Center

Passing Film

Imitation of Life Film

Black Girl, Bleu Film

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Date: March 14, 2022

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Damele on More Inclusive Mental Healthcare for the LGBTQ+ Community

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Damele Walton on his experience as a black male in the LGBTQ+ community. We discuss the importance of acceptance and some of Damele’s hopes for the future of mental healthcare for the LGBTQ+ community.

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The Spot

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Date: March 7, 2022

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Realizing Your Potential with DeAndra Smith

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with DeAndra Smith. DeAndra is a member at Independence Center who first came to IC homeless and in need of a lot of support. Over time, DeAndra realized his potential, got involved with the kitchen unit at the Clubhouse, participated as the member dancer in Dancing with the St. Louis Stars, and now serves on Independence Center’s Board of Directors. DeAndra shares his story and some of the things he has learned along the way.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:03 - 4:19 DeAndra's Background

8:05 - 9:25 Clubhouse International Conference

9:57 - 12:43 Dancing with the St. Louis Stars

13:55 - 16:45 Independence Center Board of Directors

16:45 - 18:25 Peer Specialist

19:15 - 20:55 How DeAndra Utilizes Clubhouse

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Independence Center

DeAndra’s Performance

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Date: February 25, 2022

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Putting Housing First with Chris Brannaman

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Chris Brannaman about her new role as the Housing Liaison at Independence Center. This new role focuses on supporting those with behavioral health diagnosis find housing in the community and get connected to resources in the community. She explains the role, some of the other housing supports Independence Center offers, and how she continues to coordinate care with other programs at IC.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:23 - 7:18 Chris' Background

8:12 - 9:23 SCLP and HUD

9:36 - 15:04 Housing Liaison Position

16:04 - 19:06 Coordinated Entry & Rapid Reentry

19:53 - 21:51 Housing First

24:39 - 26:45 Staying Connected with Clubhouse

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Welcome Center Information

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Date: January 31, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: How to Get Connected to Services at Independence Center

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Leah Sanders about the Independence Center Welcome Center. The Welcome Center is the first point of contact for people looking to enroll in services at IC.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:11 - 3:48 What is the Welcome Center

4:06 - 4:44 How People Find Out About IC

5:20 - 6:06 Hospital Connection Linkages and Emergency Room Enhancement

6:32 - 7:06 What Happens Someone Is Not Eligible for Services

7:49 - 10:33 Coordination of Services at IC

11:05 - 13:01 Moving Welcome Center to 4245 Forest Park Ave.

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Independence Center

Welcome Center Information

314-533-4163 Independence Center Welcome Center Phone Number

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Date: January 24, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: A Conversation with Crowd Favorite George Brooks

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Independence Center member, Star Dancer, and winner of the Crowd Favorite award at Dancing with the St. Louis Stars 2022, George Brooks. We talk about George’s background growing up and how he learned he had paranoid schizophrenia. We also talk about Dancing with the St. Louis Stars, a special gift given by Abbey Eilermann from Daily Disco, and how support from another Star Dancer, Kevin Travers, makes a difference in George’s life.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:25 - 21:07 Growing Up George

22:45 - 24:52 Schizophrenia Diagnosis

25:16 - 28:06 Education & Employment

28:09 - 36:56 Dancing with the St. Louis Stars 2022

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Independence Center

Dancing with the St. Louis Stars

George’s Bio

IC’s Employment Program

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Date: January 10, 2022

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Abby & Marco Talk Dancing with the St. Louis Stars

Brief summary of show: Abby& Marco talking about Independence Center’s upcoming Dancing with the St. Louis Stars event happening on January 15th, 2022. The two discuss how the event got its start and why it is such an important event for Independence Center. Learn more about how fundraising at Dancing with the St. Louis Stars supports programs and services at Independence Center.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:11 - 6:00 What is Dancing with the St. Louis Stars

6:10 - 8:35 Pivoting to a Virtual Event

9:15 - 12:15 How Fundraising Supports Independence Center

12:41 - 15:59 How IC Supports Members

16:33 - 18:00 Member Dancer George Brooks

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Independence Center

Vote for George

Watch Dancing with the St. Louis Stars LIVE on January 15th at 8pm

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Date: December 20, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Road to Recovery with Mental Illness

Brief summary of show: Today we are talking with Independence Center member, Trenda Davis. Trenda struggled with her mental illness disagnosis for quite some time before seeking treatment and support. Listen to what she has learned along the way about herself and how she is reshaping the common misconceptions about mental illness in the Black community by sharing her story.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:33 - 16:56 Trenda's Story

21:55 - 22:35 Acceptance of Mental Illness in the Black Community

23:26 - 28:08 Coming to the Clubhouse

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Date: December 13, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: How Meaningful Work Supports Mental Health Recovery

Brief summary of show: Mark & Sebastian from Vail Place in Minneapolis, MN join me to talk about the podcast they are working on launching, how their Clubhouse fundtions, and what they are most grateful for.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:44 - 5:55 Mark's Story
6:13 - 6:55 Sebastain's Story
7:30 - 10:57 Starting A Podcast
22:12 - 23:45 Vail Place
26:35 - 32:40 How Vail Place Has Helped

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Date: November 30, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Gabe on Clubhouse

Brief summary of show: Today, we're talking to Gabe about his experience in the Clubhouse, working TE, and what's next for him.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:44 - 4:14 Working TE
9:12 - 10:35 Building Relationships at Clubhouse

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Date: November 29, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Juatine Celebrates 6 Months As A Member

Brief summary of show: Today, I am talking to Juatine who is a new member and is celebrating 6 months of being a member at Independence Center. She talks about her background and how the Clubhouse and relationships she has built here have helped her manage her mental health.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

2:07 - 4:45 Background

4:50 – 13:56 Coming to the Clubhouse

17:25 – 18:34 Helping Others with their Mental Health

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Clubhouse Shop Facebook Page

Independence Center Job Openings

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Date: November 22, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Darryl Howard on How Work Supports Mental Health

Brief summary of show: Today, I am talking with Darryl Howard, who became a member of Independence Center in 2019. He has since completed a transitional employment position and has his own part time job. He attends Clubhouse when he is not working at his job.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

0:54 – 2:40 Darryl’s Background

4:30 - 8:30 Going Back to Work at Watlow

10:20 – 13:27 Attending Clubhouse & Building Friendships

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Date: November 15th, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Finding Support at the Clubhouse with Raija Mitchell

Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Independence Center member, Raija. Raija has been a member since 2012 and has developed relationships with other members that have been very supportive to her mental health recovery.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:19 - 4:42 Raija’s Background

4:53 – 7:44 Working at the Clubhouse

9:16 - 12:48 Finding Relationships & Joy in Volunteering at Clubhouse

14:14 – 15:36 Being Yourself

List of resources mentioned in episode:

National Suicide Prevention Hotline

If you or someone you know is in crisis, please talk to somebody. You can call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or text “START” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741.

National Sexual Assault Hotline

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This week's episode is the 25th episode of the Let's Rethink This podcast. We are taking a moment to reflect and think back on the growth of the podcast. This episode features some of Abby's favorite responses to the question "If you could debunk one myth about mental illness, what would it be?"

Featured Stories

Brittny's Episode
Jackie's Episode
Karen's Episode
Brian's Episode

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Date: 10/25/2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Importance of Digital Connection with Marco Mino

Brief summary of show:

I am talking with Marco Mino today. Marco has been a member at Independence Center since 2013. Marco has accomplished a lot during his time with the Clubhouse and recently relocated to Punta Gorda Florida. He participates in the Hope Clubhouse near him as well as virtually with Independence Center.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

2:30 - 16:26 Marco's Story

24:26 - 27:14 Stigma of Mental Illness

28:47 - 32:38 Digital Expansion of Clubhouse

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

Clubhouse International

Dancing with the St. Louis Stars

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Date: 10/18/2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Increasing Investment in Global Mental Health with Dr. Ingrid Daniels

Brief summary of show:

Today we are speaking with Dr. Ingrid Daniels, hailing all the way from South Africa. Dr. Daniels is the CEO of Cape Mental Health, the oldest community based mental health nonprofit organization in South Africa. She has a Master's in Social Science – Clinical Social Work. She then completed her PhD in Social Work at the University of Cape Town. She also serves as the President of World Federation of Mental Health. She is committed to addressing global mental health challenges particularly in South Africa and in LMIC’s. She continues to actively advocate and seek creative and innovation solutions to address the mental health service delivery gaps and to ensure that mental health becomes a reality for all global citizens.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:42 - 6:47 Dr. Daniels Background

7:32 - 13:42 Cape Mental Health

14:20 - 18:09 Mental Health Care in South Africa

18:49 - 21:45 World Federation for Mental Health

22:19 - 26:10 World Mental Health Day

26:47 - 33:40 Investment in & Support of Mental Health Globally

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

Cape Mental Health

Clubhouse International

World Federation for Mental Health

World Mental Health Congress

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Date 10/11/2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Raising Mentally Healthy Children with Julie Tang

Brief summary of show: Julie Tang is a longtime supporter of Independence Center and founder of an organization called Starting the Conversation which is focused on raising mentally fit children. Since her retirement from the federal government, she has worked more closely with Starting the Conversation to build its impact and reach in the community. She is also currently pursuing her Masters of Social Work degree from the Brown School at Washington University in St. Louis.

Today we are going to talk to Julie about how the organization got it’s start, why it is so important to educate and support children on mental health, and what the future of the organization looks like.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:36 - 2:25 Julie’s Background

2:36 – 7:46 Inception ofStarting the Conversation

10:14 - 11:05 Talking about Mental Health More Openly

11:30 - 15:29 Format & Audience of Panel Discussions

17:09 - 22:55 Partnership with Gateway Region YMCA

24:25 – 27:30 Master of Social Work

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

Upcoming Starting the Conversation Event – Tuesday, October 19th

Starting the Conversation

Gateway Region YMCA

Brown School of Social Work at Washington University in St. Louis

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Date: 09/27/2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Using Outreach to Build Community

Brief summary of show: We are talking to Cassandra Burries and Naomi Holland today about the 3700 project, a disease management project through the Missouri Department of Mental Health. Cassandra is a member and a Board member at IC and Naomi is a staff leader for 3700. We are going to talk about both of their backgrounds, how they first got involved with 3700 project, how it operates within Independence Center and a couple other cool things they are working on.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:29 – Naomi & Cassandra’s Introduction

9:02 – 13:12 3700 Project

13:14 – 18:55 Importance of Outreach for the 3700 Project

18:56 - 20:24 Stages of Change Model

26:14 – 30:48 Cassandra’s Work as A Peer Specialist

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

DMH 3700 Project

Peer Support Program

Stages of Change Model

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Date: 09/27/2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: A Phoenix Rising: Relearning to Live with Mental Illness

Brief summary of show: Today we are talking with long time Independence Center member, Steve Whyte. Steve has had a long journey with his mental health recovery and describes the journey like a phoenix rising from the ashes. We are going to spend some time getting to know him, learning about the importance of safe and supportive housing for those living with a mental illness, and what he is up to now including working as a tour guide at the Gateway Arch.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:00 – 4:40 Steve’s Story

5:44 - 7:37 Coming to Independence Center Clubhouse

8:02 - 13:31 Becoming a Tour Guide at Gateway Arch

15:09 - 18:21 Living Independently

21:10 - 25:55 Recovery & Managing Mental Illness Over Time

26:31 – 28:40 Working with a Mental Illness

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

Independence Center Employment Program

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Date: 09/20/2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Addressing Global Mental Health with Jack Yatsko

Brief summary of show: Today I am speaking with Jack Yatsko, Chief Operating Officer at Clubhouse International. Jack’s role includes overseeing the programs at Clubhouse International, new clubhouse development, training, and supporting training bases. He has been in the social work field for his entire career. He has a master's in Social Work and started his Clubhouse career as the Clubhouse Director of Friendship House in Hawaii. Clubhouse International focuses on expanding the Clubhouse model around the world, accredits new and existing Clubhouses to meet standards, trains, promotes public awareness, advocates for more funding and support of mental health programs, and develops and enhances research approaches to measure effectiveness of the Clubhouse model.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:17 - 3:34 Jack’s Background & Connection to Clubhouse International

3:51 - 9:09 What is a Clubhouse International?

10:00 - 12:40 Supportive Care Community

14:05 - 18:17 Becoming a Global Organization

19:12 – 21:39 Clubhouse Work Order Day, Units, and Standards

22:41 - 27:17 International Partnerships

33:41 – 38:30 Landscape of Mental Health During the Pandemic

List of resources mentioned in episode:

Clubhouse International

Employment Program

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Get Connected with Jack

American Psychiatric Association Honors Clubhouse International

Hilton Humanitarian Prize

Lancet Commission

WHO Includes Clubhouse Model in New Guidance on Community Mental Health Services

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Date: 09/13/2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Living with High Functioning Depression & Anxiety

Brief summary of show: Today I’d like to introduce Danielle Rose. Danielle is a program participant or what we refer to as member at Independence Center.

Danielle has recently returned to work after a seven-year gap in her employment. We are going to be talking to her about her experience as a member of Independence Center, how and why she chose to return to work, and how the Clubhouse continues to support her in her goals.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:01 – 6:50 Danielle's Story

8:20 – 10:18 Receiving A Mental Health Diagnosis

13:01 – 14:05 Network of Support

15:26 - 23:44 Independence Center Clubhouse

26:45 – 30:00 Returning to Work

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

Independence Center Clubhouse Program

Transitional, Supported, and Independent Employment Programs

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Date: 09/06/2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: The Power of Performance Art in Managing Mental Health

Brief summary of show: Today we are talking with Angelo Blanchard, Katie Hayes and Paula Heller. Katie is the outreach coordinator at STAGES St Louis. If you have not heard of Stages, it is a local theatre that is committed to preserving and advancing the art form of musical theatre through excellence in performance and education. Paula is a licensed professional counselor and registered drama therapist who works with individuals, couples, and families and leads Drama Therapy Groups. Angelo is a member at Independence Center and along with his outreach work for IC also participates in the IC Players, the Clubhouse’s acting group. We are going to talk about how the arts and in particular performance art can support better mental health in our community.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:15 - 12:33 Katie, Angelo, and Paula’s Backgrounds

13:06 - 16:04 STAGES St. Louis

17:25 -18:05 Accessibility of Performance Art in the Community

19:15 – 20:59 Drama Therapy

21:20 – 30:52 IC Players & Power of Performance

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

North American Drama Therapy Association

STAGES St. Louis or contact the Box Office at 314.821.2407

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Date: August 30, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: A Better Way: Moving from Addiction to Mental Wellness with Brian Weddington

Brief summary of show: Today I’d like to introduce Brian Weddington. Brian is a newer member at Independence Center, coming into services in 2020. Since joining Independence Center, he has become a peer specialist, completed his HiSET, enrolled at UMSL, moved into his own apartment, and has started interviewing for different jobs. We are going to spend a little time hearing Brian’s story and learn more about what he is up to now.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:25 - 9:09 Brian’s Story

11:24 –15:01 Maintaining Sobriety

15:15 - 32:16 Charlie & BHN’s Emergency Room Enhancement Program

32:56 - 37:12 Living Independently

37:54 - 42:22 Managing Mental Health & Keeping Sobriety During the Pandemic

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

Suicide Statistics

Drug Abuse Statistics

Emergency Room Enhancement Program

Stepping Into the Light Ministries

Depaul Mental Health Urgent Care & In Patient Facilities

Independence Center Clubhouse Program

Independence Center Residential Program

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Date: August 23, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Zero Suicide with Kirsten Sierra and Maria Needham

Brief summary of show: We are going to be talking about Zero Suicide, which promotes safer care for those at risk of suicide. Zero Suicide believes that suicide is preventable and that the only acceptable number of losses due to errors in quality of care is zero. Today I am speaking with Kirsten Sierra, who has both her MSW and LCSW and works at Mercy as their first ever Zero Suicide Coordinator and Maria Needham who has her Bachelors of Social Work and works at Independence Center as a Community Support Specialists.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:31 – 5:31 Kirsten and Maria’s Backgrounds

5:59 – 6:45 Suicide Stats

7:02 – 12:33 Suicidal Ideation

14:13 - 17:42 How to Support Somone with Suicidal Ideation

20:34 - 23:38 Mission of Zero Suicide

24:02 – 25:58 Mercy Health System’s Approach to Zero Suicide

30:07 – 33:46 Steps We Can Take to Prevent Suicide

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

American Foundation for Suicide Prevention

Zero Suicide

NAMI

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Date: August 16, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 014 The Conversation Starts Here

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking one of Independence Center’s Community Support Specialists, Jordan Palmer. Jordan has been working as a CSS for 3 years and is current pursuing her masters in social work at Washington University in St. Louis.

Aside from managing a caseload, Jordan also is very involved with Independence Center’s Diversity, Equity and Inclusion work and did her practicuum project specifically addressing how racism intersects with mental health.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:00 – 6:16 What is a Community Support Specialists Role

8:12 – 14:48 Master of Social Work

14:49 – 21:16 Racism x Mental Health

21:17 - 22:00 Sharing the Project

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Date: August 9, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Black Girl, Bleu

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking to Sharee Silerio. Sharee Silerio is a St. Louis-born, raised and based writer, director and producer who focuses on telling stories where Black women + girls exist as full human beings on screen and feel seen, heard, loved and affirmed beyond the screen.

She recently completed her fourth short documentary Black Girl, Bleu, a conversation with Black women about the Strong Black Woman myth and how it impacts the mental health challenges they’ve been through, face and have overcome. We talk about how Sharee got her start, why Black women are centered in her latest documentary, and what’s next.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

2:14 - 4:15 Sharee’s Story

5:14 - 9:26 Starts with Story Telling

9:55 - 12:11 Starts in Production

12:48 - 18:09 Inspiration & About Black Girl, Bleu

25:34 – 27:33 How to Watch Black Girl, Bleu

27:54 – 34:15 Black Girl Bleu, The Community

42:05 – 43:48 What’s Next for Sharee

List of resources mentioned in episode:

Greater St. Louis Association of Black Journalists

Black Girl, Bleu

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Black Girl Bleu Instagram

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Date: August 2 , 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 012 Young at Heart

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with two people from Independence Center about mental health supports for older adults. Pat Marshall is a team lead at the Clubhouse and Karen Cox- Miller is a long-time member. Pat and Karen help to co-lead a group at IC called the Young at Heart group. This group is specifically for members 55 and older to socialize, connect, and support one another. This program has evolved over the last couple of years and now the group is more active than ever.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

1:00 - 2:41 Pat & Karen’s Stories

5:09 – 7:52 How Young at Heart fits within the Clubhouse model

8:09 – 13:01 Partnerships with Young at Heart Groups

13:30 - 14:49 Staying Connected Virtually

15:10 – 18:19 Marillac Mission Fund Grant for OT Services

23:45 – 27:11 St. Louis County Technology Grant for Seniors

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St. Louis Area Agency on Aging

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Date: July 26, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 011 Let's Talk Trans, Part 2

Brief summary of show: The second part of this episode focuses on mental health statistics for trans folks, how MTUG supports the transexpansive community in and around St. Louis, and how you can get in contact with Sayer and the people at MTUG.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

0:49 - 5:55 Intersection of Mental Health and Trans Identities

7:35 - 8:21 Stats on Trans Folks

8:28 - 12:04 Services that MTUG Offers

14:04- 17:47 Discrimination in the Trans Community

22:02 – 23:17 How to Contact MTUG & Upcoming Events

List of resources mentioned in episode:

Disclosure Documentary Preview

History of Trans Identity

Trans Equity Stats

Metro Trans Umbrella Group

Mary Oliver’s The Journey

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Date: July 19, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 010 Let's Talk Trans, Part 1

Brief summary of show: Today we are talking to Sayer Johnson from the Metro Trans Umbrella Group or MTUG. Sayer started MTUG in 2015 with the intention of bringing together the transgender community in the St. Louis Metro Area, the organization now serves all individuals that fall under the “umbrella term” of Trans which includes but is not limited to: transexuals, genderqueer, androgynous, agender, intersex, drag, and questioning and helps to mend the resource gaps, provide support, and resources to Trans folks in St. Louis. We talk about Sayer’s lived experience as a Trans person.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

2:10- 6:00 Sayer’s Story

6:44 – 9:28 Transgender Identity

11:09 - 15:30 Pronouns

16:12 – 18:28 Gender Identity v Sexual Orientation

19:14 – 22:40 History of Trans Identity in Medical Community

27:46 - 29:29 Gender Euphoria

List of resources mentioned in episode:

History of Trans Identity

Metro Trans Umbrella Group

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Date: July 12, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 009 Living & Working with A Mental Illness

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with an old friend, Gabriella Carbone. Gabriella has her bachelor of arts in public and community services studies at Providence College and completed her master of social work from Hunter College. She now works with unhoused adults at the Bowery Mission in New York City assessing for need, creating individual action plans, and managing crisis situations. We are talking about living with a mental illness while working in the social services field.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

0:28 – 0:39 Bowery Mission

4:17 – 5:56 Receiving a Mental Illness Diagnosis

9:42 - 11:05 Finding Support from Others with Mental Illness

11:44 -15:09 Working with Unhoused Adults

16:30 – 18:33 Housing and Mental Health Interdependence

19:02 – 21:16 Maintaining Mental Health

List of resources mentioned in episode:

The Bowery Mission in New York City

Breaking Ground

NYC Mayor’s Office Mental Health Dashboard

What is supportive housing?

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Date: July 5, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 008 Local Artist Discusses Mental Illness & Education

Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Independence Center member, Angel. Angel has been a member at IC for 4 years and has grown so much. We worked on a project together back in 2018 called the 40 stories in 40 days project where we created short videos of members sharing their life stories and published them on YouTube and the Independence Center Facebook page. Jump forward a couple years and Angel is now preparing to graduate with her associates degree in fine arts and is working toward completing a bachelors in video editing and film.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

9:05 – 10:27 Education Program

10:30– 11:50 Stats about SMI and Education

15:49 - 17:01 Finding Support During School

17:44 – 19:12 Advice for Going to School with a SMI

List of resources mentioned in episode:

Independence Center Education Program

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Date: June 28, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 007 Legal Advocacy for Adults with Mental Illness with Legal Services of Eastern Missouri

Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Ayana Dobos, who is a staff attorney at Legal Services of Eastern Missouri. Ayana has a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice & Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness. She completed her Juris Doctorate at Emory University School of Law and now practices in St. Louis, MO. She is the Program Director & Attorney for the LAAAMI. LAAMI stands for Legal Advocacy for Adults with Mental Illness. We will be discussing how this program helps people living with or at risk of developing mental illness address legal problems through a combination of legal and social work assistance.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

4:55 - 6:20 LAAMI Explained

7:05 – 9:43 State Guardianships

9:45 – 14:38 Expungement: What is it? How does it help people with mental illness?

List of resources mentioned in episode:

Legal Advocacy for Adults with Mental Illness

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Date: June 21, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 006 How Employers Can Support Those Living with A Mental Illness

Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Stephanie Girard, Director of Human Resources at Chase Park Plaza Royal Sonesta Hotel and Chris Hampel, member at Independence Center and Private Residence Engineer at the Chase Park Plaza. We’re going to be talking about how companies can help those living with a mental illness be successful in their employment goals.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

2:24 – 6:20 Chris's Story

09:03 - 18:23 Transitional Employment

18:24 – 21:18 Supported Employment

34:43 – 37:21 Staying connected to the Clubhouse while working

List of resources mentioned in episode:

Independence Center Employment Program Information

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Chase Park Plaza Website

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Date: June 14th, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 005 Developing Mental Health Urgent Cares with SSM Health

Brief summary of show: I am very excited to be talking with Michelle Schafer, Regional Vice President of Behavioral Health at SSM Health. Michelle oversees the operations of the entire Behavioral Health Service Line at SSM including inpatient and outpatient care for geriatric, adult, adolescent and child populations, emergency services, telemedicine, and medical stabilization. Today we are going to be talking with her specifically about a new service introduced mid 2020, the SSM Behavioral Health Urgent Care located at Depaul Hospital.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

6:00 - 13:04 Defining what the SSM Behavioral Health Urgent Care is

14:53- 23:37 History & Establishment of a Behavioral Health Urgent Care Model

25:33 - 30:32 Physical Design & Overall Environment of the Urgent Care

37:43 - 40:22 Collaborative Approach

List of resources mentioned in episode:

SSM Behavioral Health Urgent Care Phone Number 314- 344- 7200

SSM Behavioral Health Urgent Care website

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Date: June 7th, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 004 Systemic Approaches to Behavioral Health

Brief summary of show: Today, I am talking with Behavioral Health Network of Greater St. Louis (BHN) and we have three great guests on the show. Sally Haywood is the Senior Director of Strategic Initiatives, Rose Jackson-Beavers is the Director of Faith Initiatives, and Christie Becker-Markovich is the Director of Recovery Initiatives. BHN is committed to improving the overall system of care and support, helping people with behavioral health needs get the help they need when and where they need it. This ensures that people get treatment before their illnesses become more serious, more complex, and more difficult and costly to treat. All three of these women work at approaching systemic change and improvement to the behavioral health system in and with different spaces in the community.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

7:57 –11:17 What is BHN

13:30 – 17:05 Complex Care Work & Emergency Room Enhancement

18:35- 21:35 EPICC: Engaging Patients in Care Coordination

21:40 - 27:29 Sobering Center

27:34 – 39:23 Bridges to Care and Recovery

List of resources mentioned in episode:

National Center on Complex Care

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Date: May 31, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Episode 003 Supporting Care Partners with NAMI

Brief summary of show: Today we are going to be talking with Jackie Hudson, former staff member and longtime NAMI volunteer and Angela Berra, Director of Programs for NAMI St. Louis about what care partners wish they knew when a friend or family was diagnosed with a severe mental illness. We talk about first person experiences of supporting family members living with a mental illness and talk about the resources NAMI offers.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

7:57 – 17:28 Angela shares about all the programs NAMI STL offers

23:16 –29:09 Jackie and Angela share about the mental illness diagnosis and care plans and the importance of individual care plans; the importance of having someone with lived experience supporting others with a new diagnosis

30:00 – 34:40 NAMI on a national level, advocacy, national conferences on best practices

List of resources mentioned in episode:

NAMI STL HelpLine, 314-962-4670, info@namistl.org

Behavioral Health Response Crisis Line, 1-800-811-4760

Independence Center Clubhouse Services

List of NAMI Programming

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You can find NAMI on Facebook and YouTube @NAMIStLouis, or Instagram and Twitter @NAMISTL

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Date: May 24, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Bob Harvey & The Power of Community 002

Brief summary of show: This week I am talking with Bob Harvey, founding director of Independence Center, a nonprofit in St. Louis serving adults with mental illness. Bob talks about how he got his start in mental health, the formation of Independence Center, the importance of returning to work, and what the future of mental health looks like.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

12:05 Community Mental Health Act

31:45 The Importance of Work

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

Community Mental Health Act

Places for People

Clubhouse International

Independence Center Employment Program

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Date: May 17, 2021

Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This

Episode title and number: Brittny Adams on Living with a Mental Illness 001

Brief summary of show: Introducing, Let’s Rethink This, a podcast exploring the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethink This is bringing you real stories of the challenges of mental illness along with real inspiration to manage the symptoms of mental illness, find belonging and purpose in your community, and gain the confidence to live a healthy, quality life. Our first guest is Brittny Adams, a person living with a severe mental illness and a recovering addict. She shares her story and talks about the importance of understanding mental illness in order to build resilience.

Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:

0:09-2:43 What to expect from Let’s Rethink This

2:45–10:56Brittny’s Story

15:183700 project

List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:

DMH 3700 Project https://dmh.mo.gov/media/pdf/disease-management-projects-dm-3700-and-sud-dm-policy-manual

Peer Support Program https://dmh.mo.gov/behavioral-health/treatment-services/specialized-programs/peer-support-services

National Institute of Mental Health https://www.nimh.nih.gov/

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Introducing Let’s Rethink This, a new podcast about mental illness. Hosted by Abby Berger, episodes will explore the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethink This is bringing you real stories of the challenges of mental illness along with real inspiration to manage the symptoms of mental illness, find belonging and purpose in your community, and gain the confidence to live a healthy, quality life.

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