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Dark Horse will release a Madman omnibus collecting Mike Allred's classic series. James Robinson teases more Starman. More comic book news.

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The Penguin finale is here with Episode 8 "A Great Or Little Thing," and we're going full spoilers to recap and review on our podcast.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of November 13, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for G.I. Joe #1, Black Lightning #1, and so many more!

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A graphic novel biography of Elon Musk likely won't get english publication because of possible legal consequences. More comic book news.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests James Robinson and J. Bone ("Welcome to Maynard"), and Wendy Martin ("Castle Swimmer").

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Ultimate Spider-Man was once again the top-selling graphic novel of October 2024. Marvel teases Kidpool comic. Mike Mignola covers The Writer.

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Absolute Batman and Absolute Wonder Woman topped the October 2024 slaes charts, the first time since July of 2023. More comic book news.

The post DC Tops Sales Charts For First Time Since 2023, Marvel Not Releasing A Young Avengers Series, Oni Press Announces The Goddamn Tragedy | Comic Book Club News For November 11, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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Young Avengers returns from Marvel in 2025. Original Wolverine sketch is up for auction. Absolute Superman sells out for DC Comics.

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Inkwell Awards announce 2025 challenge with guest Al Milgrom. Spider-Man Panel by Panel coming from Abrams. It's Olivier Coipel's birthday!

The post Inkwell Awards Announces 2025 Inking Challenge, Spider-Man: Panel By Panel Goes Back In Time, Happy Birthday Olivier Coipel | Comic Book Club News For November 7, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of November 6, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for Absolute Superman #1, The Ultimates #6, and so many more!

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It's time for an all-spoilers podcast this Wednesday, including big twists for Batman, Ultimates, and Absolute Superman.

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Writer Frank Tieri chats Arcbound and more at New York Comic Con 2024.

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Alex Ross's classic Uncle Sam Election Edition is now in stores. Marvel's classic ThunderCats comics are getting a new collection. More news.

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The coven tries a jam sesh as we recap this week's episode.

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DSTLRY announces all-star holiday special. Clover Press teases Marvel Art Of mystery book. Dark Horse reveals Yucatan 1512.

The post DSTLRY Announces Holiday Special, Dark Horse Introduces Yucatan 1512, Clover Press Teases Mystery Book | Comic Book Club News For October 3, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of October 2, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for DC All In Special #1, Storm #1, and so many more!

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Comic Book Club News has won in the Arts category at this year's Podcast Awards. Ultimate Guardians of the Galaxy debut. More news.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Saurabh Bhatia (Comix.one) + Christopher Golden and Thomas E. Sniegoski ("Hellboy and the B.P.R.D: The Goddess of Manhattan")!

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Storm gets a new costume in her upcoming comic book series. Spider-Man balloon returns to the Macy's Thanksgiving parade. More news.

The post Spider-Man Balloon Returns To Macy’s Thanksgiving, Canto Team Brings On New Horror Comic, Storm Gets A New Costume | Comic Book Club News For October 1, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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The noose tightens around Oz Cobb as we recap The Penguin Episode 2 "Inside Man" on our podcast.

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DC and Marvel have lost their joint trademark for Super Hero in a landmark legal case. Ridley Scott partners with graphic novel company. And more news!

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Mark Millar is teasing a new Marvel project bigger than Civil War. Chris Condon and Alessandro Cappuccio head to the Ultimate Universe. More.

The post Mark Millar Teases New Marvel Project, Chris Condon Joins Ultimate Universe, Absolute Batman Debuting Big | Comic Book Club News For September 27, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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Agatha and her coven head down the Witches' Road as we recap Agatha All Along Episode 3 Through Many Miles Of Tricks And Trials on our podcast.

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Dark Horse Comics Avatar The Last Airbender is getting an omnibus. Ascender gets a compendium. Sonic and Justice League crossing over.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of September 25, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for Batman: The Long Halloween - The Last Halloween #1, Ultimate Spider-Man #9, and so many more!

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A Silver Surfer omnibus is coming from Marvel Comics. Dark Horse Comics introduces Ripperland miniseries. More comic book news.

The post Jack The Ripper Returns From Dark Horse Comics, Oni Press Turns To Goat Magic, Silver Surfer Omnibus Coming From Marvel | Comic Book Club News For September 25, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests James Asmus and Jim Festante ("Survival Street") + Angel Fuentes (Panico Press) + Sal Crivelli ("Terminator")!

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The winners of the 2024 Ringo Awards have been announced. Image Comics launches horror imprint Ninth Circle. More news.

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The Penguin has arrived to take over Gotham City.

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at some of the highlights from DC Comics December 2024 solicits.

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It's time for Comic Book Club's first ever Justice League Team Draft, where each member of the podcast chooses their ideal Justice League.

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at the highlights from Marvel Comics December 2024 solicits.

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The Uncanny Experience, an X-Men convention, is back for year two. It's Paul Chadwick's 67th birthday. More comic book news.

The post Unofficial X-Men Convention Returns, Happy Birthday Paul Chadwick, ThunderCats Introduces Apex | Comic Book Club News For September 3, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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Charles Soule and Ryan Browne reveal their follow-up to Eight Billion Genies, The Lucky Devils. Tillie Walden book heads to Kickstarter.

The post Tillie Walden’s Spinning Comes To Kickstarter, Charles Soule And Ryan Browne Reveal New Book | Comic Book Club News For September 2, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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Jen Bartel details why variant cover artists don't get paid for Marvel Snap. Mark Millar getting new collections from Dark Horse. More news.

The post Mark Millar Books Getting Collected, Marvel Comics Celebrates The MCU, Artists Don’t Get Paid For Marvel Snap | Comic Book Club News For August 30, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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David Mazzuchelli's artist proof copies of Batman Year One Artists Edition were accidentally sent to fans. More comic book news.

The post Deluxe Uncle Scrooge Coming From Marvel, David Mazzuchelli’s Artists Editions Accidentally Sent To Fans, ElfQuest Comes To Color | Comic Book Club News For August 29, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of August 28, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for Aliens vs. Avengers #1, Archie: The Decision #1 and so many more!

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Writer and artist Michael Walsh breaks down the first issue of Universal Monsters: Frankenstein from Skybound and Image Comics and teases what's next for The Silver Coin.

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Marvel reveals what comic book character is more powerful than xenomorphs in Aliens vs Avengers. Archie makes a decision. More comic news.

The post What’s More Powerful Than A Xenomorph, Who Does Archie Choose, A Key Part Of Amanda Waller’s Plan Revealed | Comic Book Club News For August 28, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Ian Flynn (Archie Comics) + Adam Lawson ("Kids and Monsters")!

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Fantastic Four #1 and Amazing Fantasy #15 are being auctioned off. Is Rob Liefeld on Dynamite's Thundarr The Barbarian comic? More news.

The post Fantastic Four #1 And Amazing Fantasy #15 Hit Auction, Rob Liefeld On Thundarr?, Clementine Book Three Coming In 2025 | Comic Book Club News For August 27, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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Benjamin Percy chats on the con floor at TerrifiCon 2024 about Ghost Rider, Wolverine, Hellverine, Predator, and more.

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James Gunn has responded to the controversy over the Absolute Batman logo. Rob Liefeld done with Marvel Comics. More comic book news.

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Scott Snyder sits down at TerrifiCon 2024 to talk about DC All In, Absolute Batman, and a little bit about Prime Video's Wytches TV series.

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at some of the highlights from DC Comics November 2024 solicits.

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Jason Aaron joins the podcast at TerrifiCon to talk about all his upcoming and current projects, including TMNT, and Absolute Superman.

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Soule chats Star Wars, Daredevil: Born Again, and teases his new series with Ryan Browne.

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The Harvey Awards nominees have been announced for 2024. Batgirl and The Question are both getting new DC Comics series.

The post The Question Gets A New Ongoing Series, Harvey Awards Nominees Announced, Batgirl Series Coming Too | Comic Book Club News For August 16, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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Tom King and Ryan Sook are teaming up for a new Black Canary series from DC Comics. July's top-selling graphic novels revealed. More news.

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On the podcast for August 14, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for DC vs. Vampires: World War V #1, X-Factor #1 and so many more!

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Here's today's comic book news!

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Tracy Butler, Joe Corallo and Butch Mapa, and Christopher Butcher.

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A Transformers middle-grade OGN series is coming from Skybound. Storm solo series teases first five issues. More comic book news.

The post DSTLRY Announces Red Label Book, Transformers Middle-Grade Book From Skybound, Storm Solo Titles Revealed | Comic Book Club News For August 13, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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It’s the penultimate episode of The Umbrella Academy as we recap Season 4, Episode 5 “Six Years, Five Months, and Two Days” on our podcast. Lila and Five get lost in the timelines, leading to a surprising romantic turn for the duo. Luther and Diego head to the CIA — and shenanigans. Klaus is buried...

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Marvel is introducing two Ultimate Black Cats. Witchblade tops Energon Universe in July Image Comics sales charts. More comic book news.

The post Witchblade Tops Energon Universe On Image Comics Sales Charts, Marvel Introducing Two Ultimate Black Cats, DC Vs Marvel Omnibuses Delayed | Comic Book Club News For August 12, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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We find out why The Cleanse means yet another apocalypse as we recap The Umbrella Academy Season 4, Episode 4 “The Cleanse.” After discovering how Ben died in the Jennifer Incident, in the present the team breaks up to do their own things. Klaus sells his body for drugs. Viktor teams up with Reginald. Lila...

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Reginald has reentered the chat.

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Every town in Maine is like this, actually.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Mike Scrase ("Zip") and Rodney Barnes ("Run, Fool!")! Plus Q&A, prizes, and more.

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Scott Snyder pitched a DC and Marvel crossover that never happened. Jim Lee shares a rejection letter from 1986. More comic book news.

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Joyce Brabner, the co-star of American Splendor, has died at age 72. Joe Quesada launches a new comic book company. More news.

The post Colin Kaepernick AI Company Blasted By Comics Pros, Joe Quesada Launches Amazing Comics, Joyce Brabner Dies | Comic Book Club News For August 5, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of July 31, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for X-Force #1, Department of Truth #24 and more!

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Brandon Chen ("Just a Goblin") + Deb Aoki and Christopher Butcher (Mangasplaining)!

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You got Deadpool in my Wolverine!

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at the highlights from Marvel Comics October 2024 solicits.

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The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are teaming up with Naruto. Psylocke is getting her own solo series from Marvel. More comic book news.

The post TMNT Team Up With Naruto, New Terminator And James Bond Books Coming, Marvel Announces Psylocke Series | Comic Book Club News For July 25, 2025 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of July 24, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for NYX #1, Absolute Power: Origins #1 and so many more!

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Jim Lee has seemingly been paid $20,000 to draw a Bluey character with a lightsaber. New Star Wars and Alien books coming from Marvel. More.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Bethanie Murguia ("Wagnificent") + Owen Rosenblum and Morgan Rosenblum ("Ramgod") + Ron Cacace (Alien Books/Valiant).

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The best-selling graphic novels of Spring 2024 have been revealed. Mad Cave promises industry-shaking secret at Comic-Con. More news.

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DC is All In on their books this October.

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Dark Horse Comics has taken a stand against AI-generated materials. DC All In announces new creative teams. New Black Hammer series coming.

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It's time for The Boys season finale, and we're recapping all the big moments.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of July 17, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for Namor #1, Paranoid Gardens #1 and so many more!

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Marvel teases a new West Coast Avengers team in today's new Iron Man. Chip Zdarsky releases free magazine. Comic sales down 7% in 2023.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Kelly Thompson and Paulina Ganucheau ("Powerpuff Girls"), and Jordan Morris and Bowen "Bones" McCurdy ("Youth Group").

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Image Comics has clarified the methodology behind their Top 10 sales charts. DC launches their own Discord server. More comic book news.

The post X-Men #1 Hid A Bonus Page, Image Clarifies Top 10 Lists, DC Launches Discord Server | Comic Book Club News For July 16, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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Scott Dunbier's new publishing company is called Act 4. Image Comics has released their own sales chart for June. More comic book news.

The post Scott Dunbier Launches Act 4 Publishing Company, DC To Release New Middle-Grade Graphic Novels, Image Comics Announces June Best-Sellers | Comic Book Club News For July 15, 2024 appeared first on Comic Book Club.

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Chuck Tingle has joined BOOM! Studios' horror anthology Hello Darkness. DC Comics market share shrinks. DC releases Beetlejuice variants.

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It's a big fight in the ol' office on The Boys Season 4, Episode 7 "The Insider" as we recap the episode on our podcast.

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Penguin Random House has bought BOOM! Studios. DSTLRY heads to Diamond for comics distribution. June's top-selling graphic novels.

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On the Stack podcast for the week of July 10, 2024, we've got new comic book reviews for X-Men #1, Action Comics #1067 and so many more!

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The creator lineup for DC's Absolute Comics line may have been revealed. Ultimate comics top June's sales charts. More comic book news.

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On this week's show, guests Wes Craig ("Kaya"), Andrew Baillie and Spike Trotman (Indie Circus Games), and Zack Kaplan ("Kill All Immortals").

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Is DC Comics launching an Ultimate style line called Absolute Universe? Jeff Lemire's Minor Arcana heads to SDCC. More news.

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There will be no time travel characters in Marvel's new X-Men books, at least at first. Black Label was initially called Jokerverse. More.

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A Hellboy art exhibit opens this weekend in California. A Kingdom Come documentary is coming to Kickstarter. I Heart Skull-Crusher is ongoing.

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The first rule of The Boys is you discuss The Boys.

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Kaare Andrews accuses of using AI for Spider-Man Reign 2. Marvel announces the 8 deaths of Spider-Man. You could be in G.I. Joe.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for July 3 2024 we've got reviews for Absolute Power #1, Spider-Man: Reign 2 #1 and more.

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Brian Azzarello explains why he left DC Comics. Dan Slott turns 57 years old today. Marvel announces this year's Trick-Or-Read books.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Kevin Kleinrock and Diego Valenzuela ("Luchaverse") + Kyle Stück ("Hallowed")!

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DC Comics are back to a Wednesday release schedule, as of this week. Tucker Stone joins Fantagraphics. More Compact Comics to be released.

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Jim Lee commission prices are drawing controversy online. Raina Telgemeier and Scott McCloud are teaming up on a new book. More news.

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This is Phase 4 of our podcast.

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Skybound announces G.I. Joe ongoing comic book series set in Energon Universe. Joe Kelly writing Amazing Spider-Man. More comic book news.

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Marvel releases surprise Moon Knight comic to stores. Chip Zdarsky and Gerry Duggan team up to prank Rob Liefeld. More comic book news.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for June 26 2024 we've got reviews for Absolute Power: Ground Zero #1, Blood Hunt #4 and more.

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Today is Jerry Bails birthday, the father of comic book fandom. Blood Hunt's true villain, Varnae, revealed. More comic book news.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guest Michael Calero ("Quested")!

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A GI Joe Kickstarter may become the biggest comics project of all time. Lex Luthor loses his memory in new Superman comics. More news.

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Francesco Mattina DC Comics covers reportedly being replaced after AI controversy. IDW exiting EIC speaks out. More comic book news.

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at some of the highlights from the Marvel September 2024 solicits.

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Homelander goes home(lander).

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Zeb Wells is leaving Amazing Spider-Man. Jupiters Legacy is ending from Mark Millar. Two new DC Elseworlds titles announced.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for June 19 2024 we've got reviews for Uncle Scrooge and the Infinity Dime #1 and more.

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Sensational She-Hulk will end with issue #10 at Marvel. Joshua Williamson leaving Green Arrow and Batman and Robin. More comic news.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Chris Ryall, Owen King, and Jesse Kellerman ("Self Help")!

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Artist Francesco Mattina has been accused of using AI for a DC Comics cover. Marvel Comics gets a new logo. Batman dies! Sort of.

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at some of the highlights from DC Comics September 2024 solicits.

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Vought! On! Ice!

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Splinter, somehow grosser than a rat living in a sewer.

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All of your final season questions... Answered!

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Pornsak Pichetshote is challenging all-star teams for The Horizon Experiment. Daniel Warren Johnson and Riley Rossmo team up. More news.

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The Boys are finally back in town.

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It all ends here. Sweet Tooth, that is.

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DC Comics has revealed details about its September Absolute Power titles. Miles Morales is now a vampire in Marvel comics. More news.

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You only get one stab in the knife.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for June 12 2024 we've got reviews for Batman: Gotham by Gaslight - The Kryptonian Age #1 and more.

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Boston Baked Beans are a candy, not a can of beans.

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Tradd Moore and Ardbeg have teamed up for a whisky that costs $27,000 - and a comic to come with it. Plus more comic book news.

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Sweet Tooth is on a boat.

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We learn more about Rosie's pack of wolf-boys as we recap Sweet Tooth Season 3, Episode 3 "The Pack" on Netflix.

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The gang heads down to a weird shack as we recap Sweet Tooth Season 3, Episode 2 "Thank God I'm A Country Boy."

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The new X-Men: From The Ashes Infinity Comic deals with Cyclops and Phoenix. Sergio Aragonés and Mark Evanier's Space Circus gets a collection. IDW's The Exorcism At 1600 Penn brings horror to the White House. All on Comic Book Club News for June 7, 2024.

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Our Sweet Tooth podcast returns to recap the final season premiere of the Netflix series, Season 3, Episode 1 The Beginning Is Also The End.

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Two Skybound titles were tops on May's graphic novel best-sellers charts. Captain America assembles a new team of Avengers. More news.

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Listen to our spoiler-filled chat all about Skybound's Scarlett #1.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for June 5 2024 we've got reviews for X-Men #35, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Alpha, and more.

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Doom #1 from Marvel was the best-selling comic book of May 2024. It's Spider-Man's 62nd Anniversary. More comic book news.

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On this week's live show, we're welcoming guests Eddie Ahn ("Advocate"), plus Dave Wachter and Tony Fleecs ("Uncanny Valley")!

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Ghost Machine has created a scholarship working with the Kubert School. G.I. Joe Kickstarter gets $1 million. More comic book news.

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Jeph Loeb is writing Batman The Last Halloween for DC Comics. A second Dog Man book will be released this year. More comic book news.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for May 29 2024 we've got reviews for X-Men: The Wedding Special #1, DC Pride 2024, and much more.

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On this week's live show, Josh Hicks ("HOTELITOR: Luxury-Class Defense and Hospitality Unit") + Carl Sciacchitano and David Sciacchitano ("The Heart That Fed").

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It's the 200th episode of Comic Book Club News!

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Tom King is writing Archie The Decision, a book where Archie will choose Betty or Veronica. American Girl graphic novels coming. More.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for May 22 2024 we've got reviews for Amazing Spider-Man #50, Fall Of The House Of X #5 and more.

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Jonathan Hickman and Greg Capullo take on Wolverine for new miniseries. Scarlett sells 80,000 copies of first issue. More news.

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On this week's live show, Vera Brosgol ("Plain Jane and the Mermaid"), Aubrey Sitterson and Megan Hutchison ("Archie Comics: Judgement Day").

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Titans latest issue introduced a Nightwing of Zur-En-Arrh, and the internet isn't happy. Is Blood Hunt Red Band in canon? More comic news.

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at some of the highlights from DC Comics August 2024 solicits.

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The nominees for the 2024 Eisner Awards have been announced. Rob Liefeld's final Deadpool story also announced. More news.

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It all ends here, until it doesn't.

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A Sesame Street comic book series is coming from Oni Press. Star Trek hits issue #500 from IDW. Marvel celebrates 50 years of Iron Fist.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for May 15 2024 we've got reviews for Doom #1, Action Comics #1065 and more.

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Maria Llovet returns with a new one-shot, All The Things We Didn't Do Last Night. X-Men Forever reveals Hope's parents. Tom King and Jeff Spokes take on Jenny Sparks for DC Comics. All on Comic Book Club News for May 15, 2024.

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On this week's live show, Steve Orlando and Matthew Medney (Gungnir) + Asia Simone ("Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur: Wreck and Roll").

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Marvel is launching a solo Dazzler title as part of its new X-Men line. Tiny Onion makes four new hires. And more comic book news.

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It's the Blue and the Gold and several wild twists.

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Greg Land did not draw six fingers on Angel on the cover of X-Factor #1. Marv Wolfman turns 78 years old. DC Comics creators visit Superman. More news.

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DC Comics is bringing back Gotham City Sirens for a weekly event series. Joe Quesada covers Space Ghost. More comic book news.

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Marvel has announced the creative teams for Wolverine and X-Factor. Last Kids on Earth is getting a graphic novel. More comic book news.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for May 8 2024 we've got reviews for The Boy Wonder #1, Energon Universe 2024 Special #1 and more.

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Blood Hunt Red Band issues drove sell outs in NYC. Is this the key to getting fans back to comic book shops? Plus, more news.

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On this week's live show, guests Eric Powell and Gideon Kendall (Dark Horse Comics "Lester of the Lesser Gods"), and Matthew Schofield ("Steamroller Man").

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Wolverine and X-Factor books get teased by Marvel. Peter Milligan launches Profane mystery comic from BOOM! Batman gets a new suit.

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There are nine reasons to watch this episode.

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A Conan comic by John Allison has been hit with a cease and desist. Wolverine may get depowered in Uncanny X-Men. More comic book news.

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Wondering what books to pick up on Free Comic Book Day 2024? We've got you covered with highlights from Marvel, DC and many more.

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The Red Band edition of Marvel's Blood Hunt is way gorier as Blade cuts Doctor Strange in half. André Lima Araújo joins Sacrificers. And more news.

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On this week's comic book review podcast for May 1 2024 we've got reviews for Blood Hunt #1, Superman: House of Brainiac Special #1 and more.

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Blood Hunt has arrived from Marvel, and it's got a surprise villain in the lead. Radiant Black is being turned into an audiobook. The Puppet Master franchise comes to Dynamite. All on Comic Book Club News for May 1, 2024.

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It's a Comic Book Club Crime Comics Spectacular! With guests Gary Phillips ("Cold Hard Cash"), Dennis Hopeless ("She's Running On Fumes"), Lee Loughridge ("Midstate"), and Rob Hart ("Blood Oath").

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DC reveals who is behind Amanda Waller in House of Brainiac special. X-Men line-wide event hitting in 2025. More comic book news.

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Marvel has recalled Daredevil #8 over 16 missing pages. Something is Killing the Children continues to expand. More comic book news.

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Turnaround, bright eyes.

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Mike Mignola and Ben Stenbeck are launching a new comic book universe at Dark Horse. New X-Men books to be released every month. More news.

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Abrams Comicsarts is now the official home of Frank Miller. David Mack's Kabuki is getting an omnibus. More comic book news

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Writer Dan Watters joins Alex for a special dive into Skybound's new book Universal Monsters: Creature from the Black Lagoon Lives!

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On this week's comic book review podcast for April 24 2024 we've got reviews for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #150 and many more.

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BOOM! Studios is ending the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers universe in July. Berger Books launches new OGN from Steve Lieber. More news.

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On this week's live show podcast, guests Brian Michael Bendis ("Matilde's Quest"), plus Zack Quaintance.

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Xavier is in space, Storm returns, and we've got some MCU Easter eggs.

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Chip Zdarksy’s Public Domain returns. Kurt Busiek and Fabian Nicieza team up on a new book. Charlie Adlard to pencil upcoming crime graphic novel. All on Comic Book Club News for April 23, 2024. SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, TIKTOK, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT...

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at some of the highlights from DC Comics July 2024 solicits.

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On today's episode of Comic Book Club News, we're taking a look at the highlights from Marvel Comics July 2024 solicits.

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Powered by RedCircle On today’s Comic Book Club News for August 8, we’re breaking down some big changes to Lobo in DC Comics’ Superman Annual for 2023. Plus, writer Louise Simonson explains how Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman caused the Death of Superman. And in our third Superman story, was playwright George […]

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Powered by RedCircle On today’s Comic Book Club News podcast for August 7, 2023, Image Comics is switching distributors from Diamond to Simon & Schuster. Plus, Marvel goes back to the ’90s with Daredevil: Black Armor. And Dark Horse announces Blacking Out hardcover hitting next year. SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, OR THE APP […]

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Powered by RedCircle On our DC Studios news update podcast, we discuss the surprising news that Gal Gadot is still working on Wonder Woman 3. Plus, The Rock comments on the lack of a Black Adam sequel, Zack Snyder planned a trilogy of Flash films, and Stephen Amell has failed this union. Episode Rundown: SUBSCRIBE […]

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Powered by RedCircle On our Marvel Studios news podcast, we’re once again talking about rumors for the Fantastic Four cast, despite a strike happening and no casting going on. Plus, Beyond the Spider-Verse and Kraven shift dates, Loki Season 2 drops a new trailer, and Adam Brody as Star-Lord? It could have happened! Episode Rundown: […]

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Powered by RedCircle Starting next week, we’ve got a brand new podcast launching: Comic Book Club News! Comic Book Club News gives you the comic book news you need to know first thing in the morning, every weekday, in the form of digestible 3-5 minute long podcasts. From the creators of the long-running Comic Book […]

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Powered by RedCircle Fall of X continues with two new issues this week, X-Men #25 and Astonishing Iceman #1. We take a deep dive into the fallout from the Hellfire Gala on this week’s podcast, including some of the big choices for Kate Pryde in X-Men, and how Iceman is even alive after what Nimrod […]

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Powered by RedCircle Josie McCoy is back and better than ever as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 17: “Chapter One Hundred Thirty-Four: A Different Kind of Cat” on our podcast. When the OG pussycat heads back to town, it’s up to Veronica to help her sell her movie to Hollywood. Meanwhile, Betty decides to […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of August 2, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Star Wars: Dark Droids #1 Marvel Written by Charles Soule Art by Luke Ross The Sandman Universe: Thessaly Special #1 DC Comics Written by James Tynion IV Art by Maria Llovet Sacrificers #1 […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live show, guests Jamie Rotante and Vin Lovallo (Archie Comics) + Ethan S. Parker, Griffin Sheridan, and Bob Quinn (“Kill Your Darlings”)! SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, TIKTOK, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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Powered by RedCircle On a special mini-review episode of our comic book review podcast, we’re diving right into Marvel’s Hellfire Gala (2023) #1. What did we think of this game-changing kick-off to the Fall of X event? What does it mean for the end of the Krakoa era of Marvel’s mutant X-Men? And what’s coming […]

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Powered by RedCircle On our Marvel News update podcast, we’re chatting about the recently released The Marvels trailer — and whether it will save the MCU. Plus, Kathryn Newton’s screentest for Hawkeye, Secret Invasion‘s Rotten Tomatoes score is the lowest in MCU history, will Spider-Man be in Invincible Season 2, and more. Episode Rundown: SUBSCRIBE […]

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Powered by RedCircle The Blue Beetle director originally wanted to pitch a Bane origin movie. Plus, Zachary Levi is still on the Shazam 2 train, James Gunn clears up DCU continuity (again), and The Flash is a hit on VOD. Episode Rundown: SUBSCRIBE ON APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, RSS, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW […]

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Powered by RedCircle On the series finale of Secret Invasion, Nick Fury takes the fight to Gravik as we recap “Home”. With the world on the brink of World War III, it’s up to Fury to try and defuse the situation, along with Olivia Colman, Gi’ah, and his wife, Priscilla. We discuss/shout about the big […]

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Powered by RedCircle Riverdale goes burlesque as we recap Season 7, Episode 16 “Chapter One Hundred Thirty-Three: Stag” on our podcast. When Betty discovers Polly isn’t actually a Broadway star, it leads her on a journey of self-discovery with a devastating conclusion. Jughead fights back against the Comics Code Authority. Reggie and Archie explore their […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of July 26, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Superman: The Last Days of Lex Luthor #1 DC Comics Written by Mark Waid Art by Bryan Hitch Ultimate Invasion #2 Marvel Written by Jonathan Hickman Art by Bryan Hitch Purr Evil #1 […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guests Vactor (The Vactor-Verse Podcast) + Scott Hoffman (“Nostalgia”). SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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Powered by RedCircle Our The Boys podcast is back, chatting about the just-released trailer for spinoff Gen V, plus news about the show’s premiere date. Get your first look at Godolkin University, home of a new generation of violent superheroes all vying for the top prize in a Hunger Games-style competition. We discuss all the […]

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Powered by RedCircle On a special bonus episode of our Riverdale podcast, we interview Matthew Doers, composer/lyricist of four songs from the show’s recent “Archie The Musical” episode. Find out how the songs he wrote with Riverdale showrunner Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa back in 2002 finally saw the light of day on The CW series, the story […]

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Powered by RedCircle Aquaman 2 is plagued by reshoots and a growing budget, according to those in the know – but what does this mean for the movie’s future? We discuss that and other DCU news on our podcast, including a The Flash deleted scene revealing Batman’s motivations, the Blue Beetle villain, and why Lady […]

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Powered by RedCircle Invincible is finally back! Sort of. We’re recapping the surprise special episode of Prime Video’s adult animated series, aka “Invincible Atom Eve” on our podcast. In the hour, we flash back in time to find out the surprising origin of Samantha Eve Wilkins, where her powers come from, and witness her first […]

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Powered by RedCircle Gravik’s master plan is revealed as we scream a lot about Secret Invasion Episode 5, “Harvest”, on our Marvel podcast. While Olivia Colman speed-runs through the plot, Nick finally gets his eyepatch back, Rhodey acts like a jerk, and Mrs. Fury blows up her very nice house. Plus who is Nick Fury […]

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Powered by RedCircle Riverdale is looking for its next beauty queen on Riverdale Season 7, Episode 15 “Chapter One Hundred Thirty-Two: Miss Teen Riverdale” as we recap on our podcast. With the girls all up for Miss Riverdale Teen Queen, it’s up to Betty and the gals to help figure out how to get Ethel […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of July 19, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Blade #1 Marvel Written by Bryan Hill Art by Elena Casagrande Hawkgirl #1 DC Comics Written by Jadzia Axelrod Art by Amancay Nahuelpan Locke & Key: 15th Anniversary “Only Bad” Edition IDW Written […]

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Powered by RedCircle While the SAG and WGA strikes shut down Hollywood, Iman Vellani is co-writing a new comic for Marvel titled Ms. Marvel: The New Mutant. Plus: Bob Iger makes some boneheaded statements about Marvel TV, Hayley Atwell reacts to Captain Carter’s Multiverse of Madness appearance, and we discuss whether the entire plot of […]

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Powered by RedCircle Nick and Talos team up to save the President as we recap Secret Invasion Episode 4 “Beloved” on our Marvel podcast. After a scuffle with Mrs. Fury, Nick discovers yet another Skrull mole. Meanwhile, the reports of Gi’ah’s death have been greatly exaggerated. SUBSCRIBE TO MARVELVISION ON APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of July 12, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Stranger Things #1 IDW/Dark Horse Comics Written by Cameron Chittock Art by Fero Pe Fallen Friend: The Death Of Ms. Marvel #1 Marvel Written by G. Willow Wilson, Mark Waid […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s new live show podcast, we’re welcoming guests Shane Berryhill (“Comic Books Kill”) + Meghan Boehman and Rachel Briner (“Dear Rosie”)! SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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Powered by RedCircle On a special bonus episode of Comic Book Club, we’re chatting with Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips about their That Texas Blood spinoff series The Enfield Gang Massacre from Image Comics. SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT […]

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Powered by RedCircle It’s the final musical episode as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 14: “Chapter One Hundred Thirty-One: Archie The Musical”. When Kevin convinces Principal Featherhead to check out an original musical for Riverdale High, the gang is less than enthused. But it turns out Kevin has other reasons for diving into an […]

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Powered by RedCircle Gravik makes a big move and once again not everyone is making it out alive as we recap Secret Invasion Episode 3, “Betrayed”, on our Marvel podcast. After Nick deals with his secret wife Varra, he’s back with his public wife, Talos, and trying to stop Gravik’s latest plan. Meanwhile, Sonya gives […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of July 5, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Knight Terrors: First Blood #1DC ComicsWritten by Joshua WilliamsonArt by Howard Porter Knight Terrors: The Joker #1DC ComicsWritten by Matthew RosenbergArt by Stefano Raffaele Knight Terrors: Batman #1DC ComicsWritten by Joshua WilliamsonArt by […]

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Powered by RedCircle It’s a witch hunt when Riverdale goes to war against Communism, Comics, and the LGBTQ+ community in Season 7, Episode 13: “Chapter One Hundred Thirty: The Crucible”, and we’re here to break it all down on our podcast. When Ms. Thornton gets removed for being a suspected Communist, Archie spirals out of […]

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Powered by RedCircle After last episode’s big death, Nick Fury is left reeling and we recap Secret Invasion Episode 2, “Promises” on our podcast. Fury is on the run after letting his partner die, but still has time to talk to Rhodey about international politics. Meanwhile, Gravik’s plan is (sort of) revealed. SUBSCRIBE TO MARVELVISION […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of June 28, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Creed: The Next Round #1BOOM! StudiosWritten by Latoya Morgan and Jai JamisonArt by Wilton Santos X-Men: Before the Fall: The Heralds of Apocalypse #1MarvelWritten by Al EwingArt by Luca Pizzari, Stefano Landini & […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live show, guests Ed Gross (“Voices from Krypton: The Unofficial Unauthorized History of Superman”) + Ayize Jama-Everett (“The Last Count of Monte Cristo”) + Edgardo Miranda-Rodriguez (“La Borinqueña Volume 1 Omnibus”). SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, […]

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Powered by RedCircle We’re recapping Riverdale Season 7, Episode 12, “Chapter One Hundred Twenty-Nine: After The Fall” on our podcast as the gang deals with the fall-out of a climactic car crash. While the Bulldogs prepare for a big game against Stonewall Prep without Julian Blossom at the helm, Reggie and Archie grapple with which […]

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Powered by RedCircle The Flash is stumbling at the box office, but our recap and review podcast for the new DC movie is just getting up to speed. On this episode, we discuss our thoughts on Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton, Sasha Calle, the reaction to the movie and much more. Plus, what do those end […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of June 21, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Ultimate Invasion #1 Marvel Written by Jonathan Hickman Art by Bryan Hitch Wonder Woman #800 DC Comics Written by Becky Cloonan and Michael W. Conrad, Tom King Art by Joëlle Jones, Alitha Martinez, […]

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Powered by RedCircle Marvel’s Secret Invasion is here, and we’re breaking down all the big moments in the first episode of Disney+’s Skrulls vs. Nick Fury show on our Marvel podcast. With an attack on Earth imminent, Nick Fury teams up with Talos and Maria Hill to try to figure out what the villainous shape-changers […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live podcast, guests James Aquilone (“Dead Detectives Society”) + Van Jensen (Zoop’s “Stardust Anthology”) join the show! SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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Powered by RedCircle On a very special episode of our Riverdale podcast, we’re using this week’s hiatus to break down your questions and theories about the final season of the show! Will the cast stay in the ’50s all season long? Who is endgame? And much, much more. SUBSCRIBE TO RIVERDALE AFTER DARK ON APPLE, […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of June 14, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Black Panther #1 Marvel Written by Eve L. Ewing Art by Chris Allen Void Rivals #1 Image Comics Written by Robert Kirkman Art by Lorenzo De Felici DC Pride Through The Years #1 […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guests Tillie Walden (“Clementine” Book Two) + Alex Maleev (“The Marvel Art of Alex Maleev”). SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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Powered by RedCircle Has the cast of the MCU Fantastic Four been revealed? We break down the rumored rundown of Marvel’s first family. Plus, the first five minutes of Secret Invasion have been posted online; we break down what it means for the show. And more Marvel news! Episode Rundown: SUBSCRIBE TO MARVELVISION ON APPLE, […]

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Powered by RedCircle Tell me… Do you bleed? Your ears will once you listen to our rewatch podcast for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. With The Flash movie debuting soon, we’re taking a look at the introduction of Ben Affleck’s Batman, Ezra Miller’s Flash, and all the rest of the super-friends in Zack Snyder’s […]

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Powered by RedCircle This is Halloween… Two… On this week’s Riverdale as we recap Season 7, Episode 11 “Chapter One Hundred Twenty-Eight: Halloween II” on our podcast. When she finds out Halloween is downplayed in town, Veronica decides to throw a midnight Ghost Show at the Babylonium, roping in Clay, Kevin, Cheryl, Toni, and Fangs […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of June 7, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for: Loki #1 Marvel Written by Dan Watters Art by Germán Peralta Steelworks #1 DC Comics Written by Michael Dorn Art by Sami Basri In Hell We Fight #1 Image Comics Written by John […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guest Andy Schmidt to discuss Luciano Vecchio’s Sereno and more from CEX Publishing. SUBSCRIBE ON RSS, APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR THE APP OF YOUR CHOICE. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM, AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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It’s time to return to the Spider-Verse as we thwip into a spoiler-heavy review for Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse. From our experiences watching it in the theater, to all the new characters like Miguel O’Hara and The Spot, to big theories about Miles and Gwen — and Beyond the Spider-Verse — we’re breaking it all down with a ton of Easter eggs in tow.

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It’s a good ol’ American double date as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 10 “Chapter One Hundred Twenty-Seven: American Graffiti” on our podcast. Reggie and Archie try to take out Veronica and Betty, but will their cars get in the middle of the new relationships? Meanwhile, Cheryl tries to bond with Toni over her book club, and Jughead and Tabitha team up to try to unravel the mystery of Brad Rayberry’s death. And Frank looks crazier than ever.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of May 31, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Punisher #12
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Jesús Saiz and Paul Azaceta

DC Pride 2023 #1
DC Comics
Written by Grant Morrison, Jeremy Holt, Leah Williams, Mildred Louis, Rex Ogle, Christopher Cantwell, Nicole Maines, Nadia Shammas, A.L. Kaplan, Josh Trujillo
Art by Hayden Sherman, Paulina Ganucheau, Bruka Jones, A.L. Kaplan, Don Aguillo, Andrew Drilon, Mildred Louis, Stephen Sadowski, Skyla Patridge, Rye Hickman

Cat Fight #1
IDW
Written by Andrew Wheeler
Art by Ilias Kyriazas

The Amazing Spider-Man #26
Marvel
Written by Zeb Wells
Art by John Romita Jr.

Power Girl Special #1
DC Comics
Written by Leah Williams, Joanne Starer
Art by Marguerite Sauvage, Natacha Bustos

Starstorm #1
Image Comics
By Drew Craig

Captain America: Symbol of Truth #13
Marvel
Written by Tochi Onyebuchi
Art by R.B. Silva

Torrent #4
Image Comics
Written by Marc Guggenheim
Art by Justin Greenwood

Avengers Beyond #3
Marvel
Written by Derek Landy
Art by Greg Land

Star Trek Annual 2023
IDW
Written by Collin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing
Art by Rachael Stott

Local Man #4
Image Comics
By Tim Seeley and Tony Fleecs

Doctor Strange #3
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay, Amy Chu
Art by Pasqual Ferry, Tokitokoro

W0rldtr33 #2
Image Comics
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Fernando Blanco

Alien #2
Marvel
Written by Declan Shalvey
Art by Andrew Broccardo

Deep Cuts #2
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins & Joe Clark
Art by Helena Masellis

Clobberin’ Time #3
Marvel
By Steve Skroce

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On this week’s live podcast, Logan Rodgers and Jason Holtzman (“Tales from the Cloakroom Volume 2”) join the show. Plus, we’re welcoming guest Jorge Molina (Zoop’s “ZURDO: The Art of Jorge Molina”).

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The writers’ strike continues to impact Marvel as Thunderbolts and Wonder Man both have been shut down. But what’s going on with Marvel’s other productions? Plus, Florence Pugh takes heat for her role in the MCU, Venom 3 gets an over-qualified cinematographer, and Elizabeth Olsen reveals she stopped reading scripts for Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness.

Episode Rundown:

  • Thunderbolts, Wonder Man halted by writers strike: https://deadline.com/2023/05/marvel-thunderbolts-writers-strike-1235380504/
  • Florence Pugh says indie film community was “pissed” when she joined Marvel: https://time.com/collection/next-generation-leaders/6278537/florence-pugh-leaders/
  • Justice League cinematographer joins Venom 3: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/venom-3-to-be-shot-by-justice-league-1235498118/
  • Elizabeth Olsen stopped reading drafts of Multiverse of Madness: https://twitter.com/joshuahorowitz/status/1662072016856334339

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Does Man of Steel get two snaps up? We revisit the 2013 kick-off to the DCEU in advance of the release of The Flash. A decade later, and with the Snyderverse making its final bow, how does the controversial Superman movie hold up? How is Henry Cavill as Clark Kent, Amy Adams as Lois Lane, and most importantly, Michael Shannon as Zod? We discuss that and a whole lot more on this rewatch podcast.

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Betty and Veronica take the spotlight as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 9: “Chapter One Hundred Twenty-Six: Betty & Veronica Double Digest” on our podcast. In Betty’s story, she’s grappling with Dr. Werthers who is trying to figure out why Ms. Cooper is so obsessed with sex. And in Veronica’s story, her plan to save the Babylonium works — but maybe at the expense of her relationship with Reggie. Meanwhile, Jughead drinks a ton of milkshakes.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of May 24, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Fury #1
Marvel
Written by Al Ewing
Art by Scot Eaton & Cam Smith, Tom Reilly, Adam Kubert, Ramon Rosanas

Supermassive 2023
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins, Ryan Parrott, Melissa Flores, Mat Groom
Art by Daniele Di Nicuolo

City Boy #1
DC Comics
Written by Geg Pak
Art by Minkyu Jung

Storm #1
Marvel
Written by Ann Nocenti
Art by Sid Kotian

Vanish #7
Image Comics
Written by Donny Cates
Art by Ryan Stegman

Action Comics #1055
DC Comics
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Dan Jurgens, Dorado Quick
Art by Rafa Sandoval, Lee Weeks, Yasmín Flores Montañez

Daredevil & Echo #1
Marvel
Written by Taboo & B. Earl
Art by Phil Noto

Terrorwar #2
Image Comics
Written by Saladin Ahmed
Art by Dave Acosta

Nightwing #104
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor, C.S. Pacat
Art by Travis Moore, Daniel Hor

Star Wars: Darth Vader – Black, White & Red #2
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron, David Pepose, Victoria Ying
Art by Leonard Kirk, Alessandro Vitti, Marika Cresta

Indigo Children #3
Image Comics
Written by Curt Pires
Art by Rockwell White

Unstoppable Doom Patrol #3
DC Comics
Written by Dennis Culver
Art by Chris Burnham

Thor #34
Marvel
Written by Toren Grønbekk
Art by Juan Gedeon with Sergio Dávila

What’s The Furthest Place From Here #13
Image Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Tyler Boss

Green Arrow #2
DC Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Sean Izaakse

The X-Cellent #3
Marvel
Written by Peter Milligan
Art by Michael Allred

The Forged #3
Image Comics
Written by Greg Rucka & Eric Trautmann
Art by Mike Henderson

All Eight Eyes #2
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Steve Foxe
Art by Piotr Kowalski

Hallows’ Eve #3
Marvel
Written by Erica Schultz
Art by Brian Reber

Radiant Pink #5
Image Comics
Written by Meghan Camarena & Melissa Flores
Art by Emma Kubert

007: For King And Country #2
Dynamite
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson
Art by Girogio Spalletta

The Neighbors #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jude Ellison S. Doyle
Art by Letizia Cadonici

Hellcat #3
Marvel
Written by Christopher Cantwell
Art by Alex Lins

Justice Society of America #4
DC Comics
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Mikel Janín and Jerry Ordway

Blue Book #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by James Tynion IV, Steve Foxe
Art by Michael Avon Oeming, John McCrea

Harrower #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Justin Jordan
Art by Brahm Revel

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Geoff Mosse and Patrick Hernandez (“Spider Web”) and Russell Nohelty (“Lucifer Licorice”) join us for this week’s live podcast taping.

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Superman: Legacy casting is heating up with a number of choices for Lois Lane, including Rachel Brosnahan, Samara Weaving, and more. Plus, we discuss early box office tracking and celebrity reviews for The Flash, whether the Arrow-verse will continue, and how The Penguin was shut down by the writers’ strike.

Episode Rundown:

  • Superman Legacy casting discussions happening… Who will play Lois Lane? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-legacy-cast-james-gunn-1235486603/
  • First tracking for The Flash puts it at between $115 and $140 million opening: https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-the-flash-elemental-and-the-blackening-look-to-combine-for-a-strong-fathers-day-juneteenth-frame/
  • Tom Cruise, Stephen King love The Flash:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tom-cruise-has-seen-the-flash-movie-1235355326/, https://deadline.com/2023/05/flash-stephen-king-ezra-miller-superhero-warner-bros-1235371209/
  • The Flash TV showrunner has left the door open for more Arrow-verse: https://ew.com/tv/the-flash-finale-arrowverse-future/
  • The Penguin the latest show shut down (briefly) by the writers’ strike: https://twitter.com/TheRyanK/status/1658493491670917121

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Marvel has announced Disney+ premiere dates for Loki Season 2 and Echo, and the latter is dropping all in one day. So what does that mean for the show? Plus: Seth Rollins joins Captain America 4 in a mystery role, a Guardians 3 villain is confirmed to have survived, Across The Spider-Verse news, Kang Dynasty news, and more.

Episode Rundown:

  • Loki Season 2, Echo premiere dates announced, and Echo is dropping all on the same day.
  • Seth Rollins joins Captain America 4… But who is he playing? https://wrestlelamia.co.uk/seth-rollins-missing-tv-time/
  • Sam Wilson gets a new suit in Captain America 4: https://twitter.com/UpdatesCAP4/status/1658803940773752833
  • High Evolutionary does survive Guardians 3: https://thedirect.com/article/guardians-3-villain-twist-ending-photo
  • Across the Spider-Verse MCU reference is just a joke: https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a43884356/spider-man-across-spiderverse-mcu-crossover/
  • Rumor: Jeff Loveness off Kang Dynasty: https://twitter.com/TheInSneider/status/1659354323992870959

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Reggie and Tabitha are finally back as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 8 “Chapter One Hundred Twenty-Five: Hoop Dreams” on our Riverdale podcast. When Frank recruits a ringer, the town meets a very different Reggie Mantle. Meanwhile, Jughead and Tabitha reconnect, Veronica pursues Clay (oops!), and Cheryl and Toni argue about going steady.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of May 17, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

The Avengers #1
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by C.F. Villa

Titans #1
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Nicola Scott

Arcade Kings #1
Image Comics
By Dylan Burnett

Good Deeds #1
IDW
Written by Che Grayson
Art By Kelsey Ramsay

Danny Ketch: Ghost Rider #1
Marvel
Written by Howard Mackie
Art byDaniel Picciotto

Batman: The Brave and the Bold #1
DC Comics
Written by Tom King, Ed Brisson, Chritopher Cantwell, Dan Mora
Art by Mitch Gerads, Jeff Spokes, Javier Rodríguez, Dan Mora

Ice Cream Man #35
Image Comics
Written by W. Maxwell Prince
Art by Martín Morazzo

Jinx: A Cursed Life #1
Archie Comics
Written by Magdalene Visaggio
Art By Craig Cermak

Hulk Annual #1
Marvel
Written by David Pepose, Phillip Kennedy Johnson
Art by Caio Majado, Travel Foreman

Cyborg #1
DC Comics
Written by Morgan Hampton
Art by Tom Raney

Little Monsters #13
Image Comics
Written by Jef Lemire
Art by Dustin Nguyen

Maleficent #1
Dynamite
By Soo Lee

Fantastic Four #7
Marvel
Written by Ryan North
Art by Iban Coello

The Vigil #1
DC Comics
Written by Ram V
Art by Lalit Kumar Sharma

Dark Ride #6
Image Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Andrei Bressan

Miss Truesdale and the Dall of Hyperborea #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Mike Mignola
Art By Jesse Lonergan

The Seasons Have Teeth #2
BOOM! Studios
Written by Dan Watters
Art By Sebastián Cabrol

Guardians of the Galaxy #2
Marvel
Written by Jackson Lanzing and Colllin Kelly
Art by Kev Walker

Superboy: The Man of Tomorrow #2
DC Comics
Written by Kenny Porter
Art by Jahnoy Lindsay

Elvira in Monsterland #1
Dynamite
Written by David Avallone
Art By Kewber Baal

Mosely #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Rob Guillory
Art By Sam Lofti

She-Hulk #13
Marvel
Written by Rainbow Rowell
Art by Andrés Genolet & Joe Quinones

Wonder Woman #799
DC Comics
Written by Becky Cloonan, Michael W. Conrad
Art by Alitha Martinez, Mark Morales, Meghan Hetrick, Juan Ferreyra, Terry Dodson, Rachel Dodson & Paulina Ganucheau

The Vampire Slayer #14
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art By Kath Lobo

Planet of the Apes #2
Marvel
Written by David F. Walker
Art by Dave Wachter

Superman #4
DC Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Jamal Campbell and Nick Dragotta

House of Slaughter #15
BOOM! Studios
Written by Tate Brombal
Art By Antonio Fuso

Predator #3
Marvel
Written by Ed Brisson
Art by Netho Diaz

Earthdivers #7
IDW
Written by Stephen Graham Jones
Art By Riccardo Burchielli

Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty #12
Marvel
Written by Collin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing
Art by Alina Erifeeva

Drowse
Written by Frank Verano and Nick Klinger
Art by Jaime Huxtable

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On this week’s live show podcast: Asa Wheatley (“Saga of the Shield Maiden”) + Jason Copland (Zoop’s “Full Tilt”).

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It’s time for one last ride with the Guardians and we’re breaking down all the big moments in our spoiler review podcast for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. When Rocket gets badly hurt, it’s up to the team to find out more about his origins and come toe to toe with the man who made him: the High Evolutionary. From the final moments for Star-Lord, Nebula, Drax, Mantis, Gamora, Rocket, and Groot, to those two post-credits scenes, to what this all means for the future of the Guardians, we discuss it all.

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It’s all on display as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 6, “Chapter One Hundred Twenty-Three: Peep Show” on our podcast. Uncle Frank is back in town and forcing Archie to do a bunch of jobs. Meanwhile, Betty and Veronica bond as Betty tries to embrace her sexuality. Jughead helps out writer Brad Rayberry, who has had his work stolen by Pep Comics. And Cheryl and Toni finally confess their feelings for each other.

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We’re continuing our Required Reading series with All-Star Superman by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely. When Superman discovers he’s dying, he embarks on twelve labors that take us through every aspect of the Superman mythos — from Lois Lane, to Bizarro, to Smallville and beyond. We dive deep into the 12-issue series, as well as take a look at what it might mean for James Gunn’s upcoming Superman: Legacy.

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Sweet Tooth showrunner Jim Mickle returns to the podcast to help wrap up Season 2 – and choose the winner of the 2023 Syrup Cup. Which Bobby scene is his favorite? What decisions went into those big character deaths? And what can we expect from Season 3? Mickle discusses all that, and more.

NOTE: This podcast was taped before Netflix announced that not only has Sweet Tooth been picked up for a third and final season, but that season has already been filmed!

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It’s time for the Season 2 finale of Sweet Tooth “The Ballad of the Last Men” as our characters face down General Abbott, once and for all. With the Last Men closing in on Gus’s cabin, Jepp, and Aimee send the animal kids away with Bear, leading to a confession to Wendy. Meanwhile, Singh realizes something surprising, Johnny makes a decision, and not everyone makes it out of Season 2 alive. Plus, we chug straight maple syrup from the bottle.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of May 3, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

SHAZAM! #1
DC Comics
Written by Mark Waid
Art by Dan Mora

Starsigns #1
Image Comics
Written by Saladin Ahmed
Art by Megan Levens

Sons of X #1
Marvel
Written by Si Spurrier
Art by Phil Noto

Peacemaker Tries Hard #1
DC Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Steve Pugh

Survival #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Sean Lewis
Art by Bryndon Everett

Carnage Reigns Alpha
Marvel
Written by Alex Paknadel & Cody Ziglar, David Pepose, Cheryl Lynn Eaton
Art by Julius Ohta, Travel Foreman, Paris Alleyne, Will Robson

Poison Ivy #12
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson
Art by Marcio Takara

Radiant Black #24
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins
Art by Marcelo Costa

Groot #1
Marvel
Written by Dan Abnett
Art by Damian Couceiro

The Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing #8
DC Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Carmine Di Giandomenico, Francesco Francavilla

Love Everlasting #7
Image Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Elsa Charretier

Star Wars: Lando #1
Marvel
Written by Stephanie Phillips
Art by Álvaro López

Batman #135
DC Comics
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Mike Hawthorne, Jorge Jimenez, Mikel Janín

Scarlet Witch #5
Marvel
Written by Steve Orlando
Art by Russell Dauterman

Batman and The Joker: The Deadly Duo #7
DC Comics
By Marc Silvestri

Spider-Man #8
Marvel
Written by Dan Slott
Art by Mark Bagley

Adventures of Superman: Jon Kent #1
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Clayton Henry

Blood Tree #4
Image Comics
Written by Peter J. Tomasi
Art by Maxim Šimić

Hairball #2
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Matt Kindt
Art by Tyler Jenkins

I Hate This Place #8
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Artyom Topilin

Buffy The Vampire Slayer: The Lost Summer #1
BOOM! Studios
Written by Casey Gilly
Art by Lauren Knight and Lea Caballero

Almighty #4
Image Comics
By Edward Laroche

Where Monsters Lie #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Piotr Kowalski

The World of Tomorrow
Uncharted Wilderness Studio
Written by Giles Clark
Art by Kenan Halilović

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We finally find out the origin of The Sick as we recap Sweet Tooth Season 2, Episode 7 “I’ll Find You” on our podcast. Jepp and Aimee get the animal children to the safety of Yellowstone, but they still can’t escape the heartbreak that’s coming for them. Bear tries to bond with her sister Wendy. Abbott encounters the Animal Army with deadly results. And Gus listens to Birdie’s tape, which brings about some big revelations. Plus we review 100 Grand.

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On this week’s live show podcast, we’re welcoming guests Neil Kleid (“The Phoenix Chase”) + Stephan Franck (“Palomino”)!

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It’s anarchy at the zoo as the Air Buds attack Abbott’s army on Sweet Tooth Season 2, Episode 6 “How It Started, How It’s Going”. With Aimee leading the attack on the Essex County Zoo, Gus and Jepp team up to free the animal children, leading to a showdown with the Last Men. Meanwhile, Bear meets up with an old frenemy, and Singh and Rani disagree about whether they should leave the stronghold or not. Plus, we review Nestlé Crunch.

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Rani and Singh reach a turning point as we recap Sweet Tooth Season 2, Episode 5 “What It Takes” on our podcast. As Abbott brings together the Three for a presentation on his new gated community, Gus and the animal children make a daring mistake. Jepp’s backstory is explored as he runs to save Gus. And Bear meets an old friend. Plus we review all four flavors of Starburst.

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The Flash has a new trailer and showed off the full movie at CinemaCon. We break down the reaction to both. Plus, James Gunn comments more on Superman casting, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom details revealed, Prime Video builds up its animated Batman roster, and more.

Episode Rundown:

  • James Gunn explains what he’s looking for in Superman: https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1651772476664303616
  • The Flash shows off a new trailer, and the full movie at CinemaCon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r51cYVZWKdY
  • The Flash director Andy Muschetti details cameos they didn’t include in the movie: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/the-flash-producer-director-reveal-cut-cameos-including-grant-gustin/
  • Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom details revealed at CinemaCon
  • Pom Klementieff has had conversations about working in the DCU: https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1651771180422946821
  • Merry Little Batman, Bat-Family and Batman: The Caped Crusader all heading to Prime Video: https://deadline.com/2023/04/merry-little-batman-bat-family-new-dc-animated-tv-series-prime-video-1235338559/
  • Zack Snyder explains his plan was for Zeus to be Kryptonian, and Ares crashed the scout ship in Man of Steel: https://twitter.com/Siccness4/status/1652495369044127744?s=20
  • Sweet Tooth Season 2 is now on Netflix – go check out our Candy Men podcast!

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Bobby gets his Shawshank moment and several other things happen as we recap Sweet Tooth Season 2, Episode 4 “Bad Man” on our podcast. Singh finally makes a breakthrough on his cure for The Sick, but at a terrible cost… and a terrible dinner with Abbott, Rani, and Johnny. Bear kills it with the Last Men. Gus tries to win back the trust of the other animal children, and Jepp and Aimee meet the Air Lords, aka the Air Buds.

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The first reviews and reactions to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 are here and we’re reading the tea leaves to find out what they mean. Plus, a True Detective writer joins Blade, Agatha: Coven of Chaos is a musical, and some more wild Fantastic Four rumors.

Episode Rundown:

  • Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 first reactions and reviews are in!
  • Zoe Saldana is retiring from Gamora: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/guardians-of-the-galaxy-chris-pratt-cast-saved-james-gunn-1235401687/
  • True Detective’s Nic Pizzolatto to write Blade: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvels-blade-nabs-true-detective-creator-1235405915/
  • Patti Lupone says Agatha is a musical: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/patti-lupone-beau-is-afraid-1235375574/
  • Kraven the Hunter brings footage to CinemaCon, promises R-rating: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/kraven-the-hunter-aaron-taylor-johnson-1235401098/
  • Andy Samberg and Jorma Taccone are in Across The Spider-Verse: https://www.instagram.com/thelonelyisland/?hl=en
  • Krysten Ritter would like to return as Jessica Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7JZo8m4DQc
  • Rumor Patrol: Mila Kunis isn’t up for Sue Storm in Fantastic Four, she’s up for The Thing? https://twitter.com/MyTimeToShineH/status/1652062914910601216

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Which came first, Sweet Tooth Season 2, Episode 3 “Chicken or Egg?” or our podcast recapping the episode? We’ll find out as we discuss Gus and Singh’s trip to Project Midnight, which leads to some surprising reunions and revelations. Meanwhile, Jepp and Aimee head to Factory Town and almost run afoul of Abbott. And Bear runs off to join the Last Men. Plus, we review Cadbury Creme Eggs.

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Jughead “Jugular” Jones tells four dark tales as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 5 “Chapter One Hundred Twenty-Two: Tales In A Jugular Vein” on our podcast. When Jughead gets hired to write a comic in one night, Veronica tries to get him to do literally anything else leading to a turning point for the budding relationship. Meanwhile, the dark trio of Dr. Werthers Principal Featherhead, and Clifford Blossom decide to distract from the Muggs murders by taking down comic books.

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We’re recapping Sweet Tooth Season 2, Episode 2 “Into The Deep Woods” and reviewing Nerds vs. Warheads in our latest episode. On the show, while the kids are still in Zoo Jail, Jepperd and Aimee mount a desperate rescue attempt and maybe become best friends in the process. Singh makes Gus trip balls, for science. Meanwhile, Bear encounters the cast of Station 11. And on the candy review part of our podcast, do Nerds beat Warheads? Or does the top prize go to tortellini?

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Sweet Tooth is back on Netflix for Season 2, and so is our Candy Men podcast as we recap the premiere episode, “In Captivity”. Gus has been captured by the Last Men, and along with Wendy and the other animal kids, tries to escape. Meanwhile, Abbott leaves to make a deal with some other survivors, Singh desperately tries to find a cure for the Big Sick in order to save his wife, and Birdie makes a surprising discovery under the ice. Plus, we review the candy that nobody better a lay a finger on, my Butterfinger.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of April 26, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Green Arrow #1
DC Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Sean Izaakse

Alien #1
Marvel
Written by Declan Shalvey
Art by Andrea Broccardo

Blue Beetle Graduation Day #6
DC Comics
Written by Josh Trujillo
Art by Adrián Gutiérrez

Star Wars: Darth Vader – Black, White & Red #1
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron, Peach Momoko, Torunn Grønbekk
Art by Leonard Kirk, Peach Momoko, Klaus Janson

Action Comics #1054
DC Comics
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Dan Jurgens, Dorado Quick
Art by Max Raynor, Dan Jurgens, Yasmín Flores Montañez

Sins of Sinister: Dominion #1
Marvel
Written by Kieron Gillen
Art by Paco Medina & Lucas Werneck

Deep Cuts #1
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins and Joe Clark
Art by Danilo Beyruth

Unstoppable Doom Patrol #2
DC Comics
Written by Dennis Culver
Art by Chris Burnham

Doctor Strange #2
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by Pasqual Ferry

The Neighbors #2
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jude Ellison S. Doyle
Art by Letizia Cadonici

Lazarus Planet: Revenge of the Gods #4
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson, Becky Cloonan and Michael W. Conrad, Josei Campbell
Art by Cian Tormey, Alitha Martinez, Caitlin Yarsky

Avengers Beyond #2
Marvel
Written by Derek Landy
Art by Greg Land

Blue Book #3
Dark Horse Comics
Written by James Tynion IV, Lonnie Nadler
Art by Michael Avon Oeming, Jenna Cha

The Riddler: Year One #4
DC Comics
Written by Paul Dano
Art by Stevan Subic

Clobberin’ Time #2
Marvel
By Steve Skroce

What’s The Furthest Place From Here #12
Image Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Tyler Boss

The Invincible Iron Man #5
Marvel
Written by Gerry Duggan
Art by Juan Frigeri

Torrent #2
Image Comics
Written by Marc Guggenheim
Art by Justin Greenwood

Mary Jane & Black Cat #5
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by Vincenzo Carratù

Indigo Children #2
Image Comics
Written by Curt Pires & Rockwell White
Art by Alex Diotto

Captain America: Symbol of Truth #12
Marvel
Written by Tochi Onyebuchi
Art by R.B. Silva

Local Man #3
Image Comics
Written by Tim Seeley and Tony Fleecs
Art by Tony Fleecs

Daredevil #10
Marvel
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Marco Checchetto

Vanish #6
Image Comics
Written by Donny Cates
Art by Ryan Stegman

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On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guests Ben Clarkson and Matt Bors (“Justice Warriors”)!

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Superman: Legacy has officially begun production, which means we’re finally getting some real news on the James Gunn project. Plus, Titans travels the multiverse, the Russo Brothers weigh in on directing a Batman movie, and the Sandman Universe expands.

Episode Rundown:

  • Superman Legacy begins pre-production, as James Gunn confirms casting has begun: https://twitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1649300584309063680
  • Russos saying directing a Batman movie would be a “no-brainer” but they’re not directing one: https://comicbook.com/movies/news/russo-brothers-address-if-directing-batman-movie-exclusive/
  • Dead Boy Detectives wraps production, Neil Gaiman says it’s in the “Sandman Universe”: https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/1648864157645647872
  • Titans crosses over with Stargirl, Doom Patrol, The Flash, Shazam, and Grant Morrison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Meby2S7UoZo
  • Nicholas Hoult discusses losing The Batman role: https://variety.com/2023/film/news/nicholas-hoult-lost-batman-robert-pattinson-painful-1235590241/
  • CinemaCon Preview

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Is it time for Marvel to make a decision about Jonathan Majors as Kang? We discuss that, and several slightly less hot-button topics on our Marvel news podcast. Specifically, we delve into the rumors swirling around Fantastic Four casting, with Adam Driver reportedly bumped to the top pick for Reed Richards. But is Mila Kunis Sue Storm? Plus, Patti Lupone drops some details about Agatha: Coven of Chaos, Juno Temple joins Venom 3, and more.

Episode Rundown:

  • Does Marvel need to make a decision about Jonathan Majors as Kang?
  • Patti Lupone is playing Lila Calderu in Agatha: Coven of Chaos: https://www.thewrap.com/agatha-coven-of-chaos-patti-lupone-character-lilia-calderu/
  • The Wolverine in Deadpool 3 is a “divergence” from what Hugh Jackman has previously done, says Ryan Reynolds: https://variety.com/2023/film/news/hugh-jackman-wolverine-deadpool-3-diverges-x-men-films-1235586735/
  • Katy O’Brian thought she was auditioning for The Marvels, not Ant-Man 3: https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/ant-man-quantumania-star-katy-obrian-interview-love-lies-bleeding
  • Juno Temple May Join Venom 3 in mystery role: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/venom-3-casts-juno-temple-1235398666/
  • Victoria Alonso and Disney have settled: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/victoria-alonso-disney-reach-settlement-marvel-1235356923/
  • Shang-Chi is airing on broadcast TV… Cool, or does this mean anything for Shang-Chi 2: https://comicbook.com/movies/news/marvel-studios-shang-chi-and-the-legend-of-the-ten-rings-air-tv-disney-abc-fx-freeform/
  • Scarlet Scarab is coming to Marvel Comics: https://www.ign.com/articles/moon-knight-the-mcus-scarlet-scarab-to-make-marvel-comics-debut
  • Spider-Man movies are finally on Disney+, Venom coming soon
  • Rumor Patrol: Is Adam Driver Reed Richards in Fantastic Four? Is Mila Kunis in the running for Sue Storm?
  • CinemaCon Preview

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Our podcast goes together like a horse and carriage as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 4: “Chapter One Hundred Twenty-One: Love & Marriage”. Cheryl’s lie about her and Archie going all the way spins wildly out of control when the couple is forced to get married by their parents, leading to a revelation from Cheryl about where she goes next. Meanwhile, Betty and Kevin break up, leading to a revelation of Kevin’s own. Veronica and Jughead team up to solve the mystery of what happened to Ethel’s parents, and some romantic sparks fly. And Toni uses a frog to help out Fangs and Midge.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of April 19, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Superboy: The Man of Tomorrow #1
DC Comics
Written by Kenny Porter
Art by Jahnoy Lindsay

Avengers Assemble Omega
Marvel
Written By Jason Aaron
Art by Aaron Kuder, Dexter Vines, Ivan Fiorelli, Javier Garrón, Jim Towe & Alex Sinclair

Terror War #1
Image Comics
Written by Saladin Ahmed
Art by Dave Acosta

All Eight Eyes #1
Dark Horse
Written by Steve Foxe
Art by Piotr Kowalski

DC Silent Tales #1
DC Comics
By Gustavo Duarte

Punisher #11
Marvel
Written By Jason Aaron
Art by Jesús Saiz, Paul Azaceta

Summoners War: Awakening #1
Image Comics
Written by Justin Jordan
Art by Luca Claretti

The Cult of That Wilkins Boy #1
Archie Comics
Written by Cullen Bunn
Art by Dan Schoening

She-Hulk #12
Marvel
Written By Rainbow Rowell
Art by Andrés Genolet & Joe Quinones

DCeased: War of the Undead Gods #8
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Trevor Hairsine and Lucas Meyer

No/One #2
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins & Brian Buccellato
Art by Geraldo Borges

The Vampire Slayer #13
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art by Kath Lobo

Red Goblin #3
Marvel
Written By Alex Paknadel
Art by Jan Bazaldua

Wonder Woman #798
DC Comics
Written by Becky Cloonan and Michael W. Conrad, Josie Campbell
Art by Amancay Nahuelpan, Caitlin Yarsky

The Forged #2
Image Comics
Written by Greg Rucka & Eric Trautmann
Art by Mike Henderson

Harrower #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by Justin Jordan
Art by Brahm Revel

The X-Cellent #2
Marvel
Written By Peter Millgan
Art by Mike Allred and Laura Allred

Superman #3
DC Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Jamal Campbell

Hitomi #5
Image Comics
Written by HS Tak
Art by Isabella Mazzanti

House of Slaughter #14
BOOM! Studios
Written by Tate Brombal
Art by Antonio Fuso

The Amazing Spider-Man #24
Marvel
Written By Zeb Wells
Art by John Romita Jr.

Nightwing #103
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor, C.S. Pacat
Art by Travis Moore, Vasco Georgiev, Eduardo Pansica

Rogue Sun #12
Image Comics
Written by Ryan Parrott
Art by Abel

Hellcat #2
Marvel
Written By Christopher Cantwell
Art by Alex Lins

Dead Seas #5
IDW
Written by Cavan Scott
Art byNick Brokenshire

Tower #3
A Wave Blue World
Written by Camrus Johnson & Kelsey Barnhart
Art by Chriscross

Hallows’ Eve #2
Marvel
Written By Erica Schultz
Art by Brian Reber

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On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guests Mark Russell (“Second Coming: Trinity”) + J.C. Barbour, And Wes Watson (“Count Dante”)!

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We’re breaking down some big DC Studios news stories for the week, kicking it off with Warner Bros. Discovery’s rebrand of HBO Max to Max, and what it means for DC. Plus, we got a first look at The Penguin series, a new The Flash trailer, and James Gunn revealed the cast list for Creature Commandos.

Episode Rundown:

  • HBO Max rebrands as Max: what does this mean for DC Studios?
  • The Penguin shows off first footage at Warner Bros Discovery’s Max event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAPifwlWBP0
  • A new look at The Flash also drops in Max event: https://twitter.com/Cryptic4KQual/status/1646349808049827841
  • Creature Commandos cast revealed: https://collider.com/creature-commandos-cast-david-harbour-indira-varma-alan-tudyk/

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The Marvels trailer is here, and trolls are already making it the most disliked trailer in MCU history. We break down the big moments from the first look at the new Brie Larson movie, as well as discuss what that review-bombing means for the flick’s future. Meanwhile, Mia Goth joins Blade, presumably playing herself, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 has released some early box office numbers, and some upcoming casting news — including the first look at Ben Kingsley’s Trevor Slattery in Wonder Man.

Episode Rundown:

  • The Marvels trailer breakdown: who is the new villain Dar-Benn?
  • The Marvels trailer is the most disliked MCU movie trailer on YouTube
  • Mia Goth joins Marvel’s Blade: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/blade-mia-goth-marvel-movie-1235372893/
  • Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 early tracking set for at least $125-$130 million opening: https://www.thewrap.com/guardians-vol-3-box-office-125-million-projection/
  • Trevor Slattery is returning for Wonder Man: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq80UYBIByX/
  • Morena Baccarin and Stefan Kapicic return for Deadpool 3: https://deadline.com/2023/04/morena-baccarin-stefan-kapicic-deadpool-3-retun-vanessa-colossus-1235322308/

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Everyone is horny as hell and they just can’t take it anymore as we recap Riverdale Season 7, Episode 3 “Chapter One Hundred Twenty: Sex Education” on our podcast. As Jughead and Ethel grapple with the murder of the Muggs parents, everyone else has sex on the brain thanks to a confusing lesson from Dr. Werthers. And particularly after a sexy dance from Toni at The Dark Room, and a make-out party set up by Veronica, things start to spin wildly out of control when it comes to couples.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of April 12, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Guardians of the Galaxy #1
Marvel
Written by Collin Kellly & Jackson Lanzing
Art by Kev Walker

W0rldtr33 #1 (out April 26)
Image Comics
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Fernando Blanco

Lazarus Planet: Revenge of the Gods #3
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson, Becky Cloonan & Michael W. Conrad
Art by Emanuela Lupacchino and Cian Tormey, Alitha Martinez

Star Wars: Ewoks #1
Marvel
Written by Alyssa Wong
Art by Lee Garbett & Java Tartaglia, Paulina Ganucheau, Kyle Hotz & Rachelle Rosenberg, Caspar Wijngaard

The Giant Kokju #1
Image Comics
Written by Gerry Duggan
Art by Scott Koblish

Superman Lost #2
DC Comics
Written by Priest
Art by Carlo Pagulayan

Captain America: Cold War Alpha
Marvel
Written by Jackson Lanzing & Collin Kelly & Tochi Onyebuchi
Art by Carlos Magno, Guru e-FX

Eight Billion Genies #8
Image Comics
Written by Charles Soule
Art by Ryan Browne

Danger Street #5
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Jorge Fornés

Stone Heart #2
Image Comics
By Emma Kubert

Predator #2
Marvel
Written by Ed Brisson
Art by Netho Diaz

The Sandman Universe: Night Country – The Glass House #1
DC Comics
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Lisandro Estherren

Hexware #5
Image Comics
Written by Tim Seeley
Art by Zulema Scotto Lavina

Know Your Station #5
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art by Liana Kangas

Fantastic Four #6
Marvel
Written by Ryan North
Art by Ivan Fiorelli

Nocterra #13
Image Comics
Written by Scott Snyder
Art by Tony S. Daniel

Briar #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Christopher Cantwell
Art by Germán García

Little Monsters #12
Image Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Dustin Nguyen

Silver Surfer: Ghost Light #3
Marvel
Written by John Jennings
Art by Valentine De Landro

The Seasons Have Teeth #1
BOOM! Studios
Written by Dan Watters
Art by Sebatián Cabrol

Radiant Black #23
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins
Art by Eduardo Ferigato

The Great British Bump Off #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by John Allison
Art by Max Sarin

Bloodline: Daughter of Blade #3
Marvel
Written by Danny Lore
Art by Karen S. Darboe

All Against All #5
Image Comics
Written by Alex Paknadel
Art by Caspar Wijngaard

James Bond 007: For King and Country #1
Dynamite
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson
Art by Giorgio Spalletta

Phantom Road #2
Image Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Gabriel H. Walta

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Usagi Yojimbo #1
IDW
By Stan Sakai

Black Cloak #4
Image Comics
Written by Kelly Thompson
Art by Meredith McClaren

Star Trek #6
IDW
Written by Collin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing
Art by Ramon Rosanas

Monarch #3
Image Comics
Written by Rodney Barnes
Art by Alex Lins

Star Trek: Defiant #2
IDW
Written by Christopher Cantwell
Art by Angel Unzueta

Dark Ride #5
Image Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Andrei Bressan

Kroma #4
Image Comics
By Lorenzo De Felici

Two Graves #6
Image Comics
Written by Genevieve Valentine
Art by Ming Doyle and Annie Wu

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On this week’s new live show podcast, Curt Pires returns to discuss Image Comics’ “Indigo Children”!

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Could a Marvel vs DC movie happen? James Gunn weighs in on the possibility, and we discuss the implications on our Marvel news podcast. Plus, we break down the trailer for Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse, explore whether there’s more than one Nick Fury in Secret Invasion, more James Gunn on the arc of the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, and check in on a rumor that Galactus and Silver Surfer might be in Fantastic Four.

Episode Rundown:

  • James Gunn talks potential Marvel/DC crossover movie: https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/james-gunn-talks-potential-marvel-dc-crossover-exclusive/
  • How the Across The Spider-Verse trailer connects to No Way Home
  • Secret Invasion trailer premieres first look at spy series… Is it hiding a second Nick Fury?
  • Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 tickets are now on sale
  • James Gunn explains the character arc of the Guardians movies… Is Rocket going to die?
  • Frank Grillo reveals why he “went over to DC,” but why are there so many bone-themed Captain America villains? https://comicbook.com/movies/news/frank-grillo-confirm-dc-creature-commandos-role-exclusive/
  • Rumor Patrol: Are Galactus and Silver Surfer in Fantastic Four? https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-studios-fantastic-four-movie-villain-report

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Riverdale is fully in the 1950s as we recap Season 7, Episode 2 “Chapter One Hundred And Nineteen: Skip, Hop And Thump!” on our podcast. Or… Is it? With the Riverdale High sock hop coming up, Toni tries to get Fangs to sing instead of Kevin, leading to some bonding with Cheryl. Meanwhile, Archie wants to take Veronica, but it’s up to Betty to teach him to dance — with some stirrings occurring. And Jughead and Ethel try to sell their comic horror story, with dire results.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of April 5, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Planet of the Apes #1
Marvel
Written by David F. Walker
Art by Dave Wachter

Poison Ivy #11
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson
Art by Marcio Takara

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine #1
IDW
Written by Mike Chen
Art by Angel Hernandez

Radiant Pink #4
Image Comics
Written by Meghan Camarena & Melissa Flores
Art by Emma Kubert

Spider-Man #7
Marvel
Written by Dan Slott
Art by Mark Bagley

The Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing #7
DC Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg, Ryan Cady
Art by Carmine Di Giandomenico, Will Robson

Lamentation #1 (Out May 3)
Oni Press
Written by Cullen Bunn
Art by Arjuna Susini

Love Everlasting #6
Image Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Elsa Charretier

I Am Iron Man #2
Marvel
Written by Murewa Ayodele
Art by Dotun Akande

Batman #134
DC Comics
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Mike Hawthorne, Miguel Mendonça

Disney Villains: Scar #1
Dynamite
Written by Chuck Brown
Art by Trevor Fraley

King Spawn #21
Image Comics
Written by Sean Lewis with Todd McFarlane
Art by Javi Fernandez

Captain America; Sentinel of Liberty #11
Marvel
Written by Jackson Lanzing & Collin Kelly
Art by Carmen Carnero

Fables #158
DC Comics
Written by Bill Willingham
Art by Mark Buckingham

Junk Rabbit #1
Image Comics
By Jimmie Robinson

Wolverine #32
Marvel
Written by Benjamin Percy
Art by Juan José Ryp

Batman and The Joker: The Deadly Duo #6
DC Comics
By Marc Silvestri

Hairball #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Matt Kindt
Art by Tyler Jenkins

Blood Tree #3
Image Comics
Written by Peter J. Tomasi
Art by Maxim Šimić

Scarlet Witch #4
Marvel
Written by Steve Orlando
Art by Sara Pichelli

Where Monsters Lie #3
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Piotr Kowalski

Adventures of Superman: Jon Kent #2
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Clayton Henry

Hell to Pay #4
Image Comics
Written by Charles Soule
Art by Will Sliney

The Amazing Spider-Man #23
Marvel
Written by Zeb Wells
Art by John Romita Jr.

Stillwater #18
Image Comics
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Ramón K. Perez

Moslet #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by Rob Guillory
Art by Sam Lotfi

I Hate This Place #7
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Artyom Topilin

Breath of Shadows #3
IDW
Written by Rich Douek
Art by Alex Cormack

Almighty #3
Image Comics
By Edward Laroche

Koschei in Hell #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Mike Mignola
Art by Ben Stenbeck

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On this week’s new live show, we’re welcoming guests Matt D. Wilson (Zoop’s “Imposter Syndicate”) + Daniel Kibblesmith (Archie Comics “Archie’s Super Mecha Teens”)!

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We’ve got a big Marvel news update this week, including info on Secret Invasion, Fantastic Four, and more. Plus on the business side, we’re discussing some new wrinkles in the exit of Victoria Alonso, the firing of Ike Perlmutter, and what Jonathan Majors’ arrest might mean for his future in the MCU.

Episode Rundown:

  • Secret Invasion reveals Emilia Clarke’s character, plot details, and maybe a release date: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/03/secret-invasion-marvel-exclusive
  • Ike Perlmutter Is out at Disney – what that means for Marvel movies, and comics: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/business/media/disney-marvel-ike-perlmutter.html
  • Liv Tyler is back as Betty Ross in Captain America: New World Order… Is this a secret Hulk movie?: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/captain-america-liv-tyler-betty-ross-1235361579/
  • The Victoria Alonso Saga continues: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvels-victoria-alonso-fired-argentina-1985-1235360231/
  • Demetrius Grosse joins Wonder Man as Eric Williams, aka Grim Reaper: https://tvline.com/2023/03/29/wonder-man-marvel-series-demetrius-grosse-cast-grim-reaper/
  • Trigger warning: what will happen with Jonathan Majors in the MCU after his arrest, and more details: https://variety.com/2023/film/news/jonathan-majors-text-messages-assault-arrest-1235568826/
  • Matthew Macfadyen joins Deadpool 3: https://deadline.com/2023/03/successions-matthew-macfadyen-marvels-deadpool-3-1235310482/
  • Fantastic Four movie gets a new writer in Josh Friedman: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/fantastic-four-movie-gets-new-writer-marvel-1235364511/
  • Thunderbolts also gets a new writer in Lee Sung Jin: https://variety.com/2023/film/news/marvels-thunderbolts-lee-sung-jin-co-writer-beef-steven-yeun-1235567387/
  • Rumor Patrol: Will all three live-action Spider-mans to appear in the new Across The Spider-Verse trailer?

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We’re back with another DC rewatch, this time for the 1989 Batman starring Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson. With Keaton returning for the upcoming The Flash, we discuss the lasting legacy of the movie, how it holds up a few decades later, as well as what this tells us about the upcoming DCU — including the unfairly killed Batgirl movie.

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Riverdale kicks off its final season with Season 7, Episode 1 “Chapter One Hundred Eighteen: Don’t Worry Darling” and we’re recapping everything on our podcast. The town has been sent back to 1955, and only Jughead Jones remembers the reality of Riverdale. While he tries to convince his friends they’ve been sent back from the future, Veronica comes to town and enchants Archie. Meanwhile, Toni and Tabitha team up with Betty and Cheryl to try to get Riverdale High to deal with the reality of Emmett Till’s murderers’ trial.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of March 29, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Avengers Beyond #1
Marvel
Written by Derek Landy
Art by Greg Land

Waller vs. Wildstorm #1
DC Comics
Written by Spencer Ackerman and Evan Narcisse
Art by Jesús Merino

Indigo Children #1
Image Comics
Written by Curt Pires & Rockwell White
Art by Aex Diotto

Clobberin’ Time #1
Marvel
By Steve Skroce

Lazarus Planet: Revenge of the Gods #2
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson
Art by Cian Tormey and Emanuela Lupacchino

Dungeons & Dragons: Saturday Morning Adventures #1
IDW
Written by David M. Booher & Sam Maggs
Art by George Kambadais

It’s Jeff #1
Marvel
Written by Kelly Thompson
Art by Gurihiru

Action Comics #1053
DC Comics
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Dan Jurgens, Leah Williams
Art by Rafa Sandoval, Lee Weeks, Marguerite Sauvage

Rocketman & Rocketgirl #1
Dynamite
Written by Jacob Edgar
Art by Jordi Perez

Something is Killing the Children #30
BOOM! Studios
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Wether Dell’Edera

Star Wars: Jabba’s Palace #1
Marvel
Written by Marc Guggenheim
Art by Alessandro Miracolo

Unstoppable Doom Patrol #1
DC Comics
Written by Dennis Culver
Art by Chris Burnham

It’s Only Teenage Wasteland #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Curt Pires
Art by Jacoby Salcedo

Local Man #2
Image Comics
Written by Tim Seeley and Tony Fleecs
Art by Tomy Fleecs

Daredevil #9
Marvel
Written by Chp Zdarsky
Art by Manuel Garcia

Dark Knights of Steel #10
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Putri

The Approach #5
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jeremy Haun and Jason A. Hurley
Art by Jesús Hervás and Lea Caballero

Hellboy in Love #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Christopher Golden
Art by Matt Smith

The Invincible Iron Man #4
Marvel
Written by Gerry Duggan
Art by Juan Frigeri

Gotham City: Year One #6
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Phil Hester

Blood Stained Teeth #10
Image Comics
Written by Christian Ward
Art by Patrick Reynolds

Deadpool #5
Marvel
Written by Alyssa Wong
Art by Martín Cóccolo

Dead Seas #4
IDW
Written by Cavan Scott
Art by Nick Brokenshire

Planet Hulk: Worldbreaker #5
Marvel
Written by Greg Pak
Art by Manuel Garcia

Stargirl: The Lost Children #5
DC Comics
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Todd Nauck

Once Upon a Time At The End of the World #5
Image Comics
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Alexandre Tefenkgi

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On this week’s live show: Ryan North and Erica Henderson (Penguin’s “Danger and Other Unknown Risks”) + Jessi Sheron (Zoop’s “The Other Happy Place”)!

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Victoria Alonso, one of the key players since the beginning of the MCU, is out at Marvel. On this week’s Marvel news update, we discuss the ramifications of what this means for the future of Marvel, and try to untangle what is actually going on behind the scenes. Plus, Florence Pugh comments on Thunderbolts, Kingpin is spotted with hair, and more Marvel news!

Episode Rundown:

  • Victoria Alonso Exits Marvel Studios: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvel-studios-victoria-alonso-exits-1235356853/
  • Florence Pugh Comments on Thunderbolts: https://www.gamesradar.com/a-good-person-interview-zach-braff-florence-pugh/
  • Daredevil: Born Again may feature flashbacks to Kingpin with a lot of hair.
  • Agatha: Coven of Chaos adds composer Christophe Beck: https://filmmusicreporter.com/2023/03/20/christophe-beck-to-score-marvel-studios-agatha-coven-of-chaos/
  • Megan McDonnell and Peter Cameron join Vision Quest as writers, under Jac Schaeffer as head writer and EP.

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Alexander Zalben
Welcome to MarvelVision, a podcast about Marvel, the MCU and right now a bunch of news updates. I’m Alex.

Justin Tyler
Justin. Also news updates.

Pete LePage
I’m Pete.

Alexander Zalben
Pete also last name news updates. On this episode, we are going to be talking about some big stories that are happening in the world of Marvel. Well, at least one big story happening in the world of Marvel and this is a huge one. And frankly, I don’t think people realize exactly how huge or big of a deal this is.

Victoria Alonso Exits Marvel StudiosYeah, that Victoria Alonso has exited Marvel Studios. This is a story that has been trucking along I imagine by the time we get this podcast up, frankly the story will have gone through a bunch more iterations and more stuff will come out but as we’re talking about it right now, this broke through the Hollywood Reporter. Victoria Alonso, if you don’t know is basically one of the original three people of the MCU she goes back to Iron Man the original movie, along with Louis D’Esposito. Yeah, Victoria Alonso, Louis D’Esposito and Kevin Feige are basically just like main three producers that shepherded the whole MCU and everybody thinks about it. As Kevin Feige is like, I’m this lone guy that kept it going. It’s certainly like He’s the face of it.

Justin Tyler
but there are like the A-team he’s the face.

Alexander Zalben
Exactly. And Victoria Alonso is the Mr. T. I never watched that show. Is that accurate?

Pete LePage
Oh my god. Yeah, it’s the show.

Alexander Zalben
I don’t know they were in a van, I don’t like vans, they’re creepy

Pete LePage
What! That was one of the coolest vans of all time.

Justin Tyler
like so you’re gonna you’re gonna hear a noise in your living room one night and walk out there and to be peed with a with a team of DVDs and being like, buckle up, motherfucker. We’re riding on this for the next eight hours.

Alexander Zalben
So Victoria Alonso was one of those essentially original three she grew over the years to become I believe, the official title in the past couple of years was VP of VFX, and physical production. So basically, the way that it worked out is while Kevin Feige was you know, talking to the artists and running the creative and doing all that sort of stuff, Louis D’Esposito was the guy who was dealing with the money people he was talking to the investors, he was talking to the advertisers and things like that. And Victoria Alonso was the person who’s basically like, post production and pre production is all her so she’s the person, particularly how Marvel works. And a lot of this has come out of the past couple of days more specifically, that they’re like the second they say, Hey, we’re gonna make Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. She’s like, great, what does this look like? We’re going to start designing sets. We’re going to start deciding props. We’re going to add ematic out the sequences, all this stuff, and she’s the person who’s leading that charge now, and there’s a lot of information we need to put out there. So we’re going to try to put it out upfront, but as you’re probably all aware, over the past couple of months, there’s been a lot of things that have come out very negatively about VFX the press where the VFX artists have talked about how they’ve been insanely overworked Marvel gives them changes the last second doesn’t seem to what they want, and fans have been responding pretty negatively as well, particularly into the last couple of movies and TV shows in terms of how they look. So ostensibly. And there’s a guy named Chris Lee, who’s been doing a lot of reporting about this over at Vulture who came out immediately after it was announced she was exiting there was like, yeah, the VFX people hate her. Like they hate her. They think she’s a tyrant. She is doesn’t know she’s the person who is behind all of this. And then we’ve heard things a little. Well, this is the thing and this is the thing that makes it tough to parse is on the opposite end of the spectrum, we’ve heard a lot of other things about people they’re like, well, first of all, she’s amazing, particularly if she has been a huge champion of women in the industry, to the point that they just released I think, a week or two ago, this whole documentary series about women of Marvel that she was prominently featured in so she’s been very big on that and because she I think it was her project sort of the whole time. Yeah, exactly. And she is also she’s a queer woman of color is the other thing and openly queer. So like, That’s a rarity in this industry, particularly at that level. So there’s a lot of other people who would push back and be like, no, these VFX artists are just men who don’t like a woman telling them what to do. So there’s a lot of behind the scenes scuttlebutt going on and a lot of back and forth and a lot of reporting about it. But the big deal here is she has gone and I think I’ve certainly heard from people that it was not like, Well, I’m leaving Marvel Studios, it was she was fired, and she was fired for ridiculous reasons. Like they kind of made up an excuse to fire her behind the scenes, essentially, to bake her into a fall guy, you know, be like what happens? Yes, these movies have been, have been doing well, particularly quantum mania. Didn’t do to be generous, not nearly what they need it to be doing. And so she somebody needed to take the blame, and she was the one that took the blame. So go ahead, Justin.

Justin Tyler
Well, I was gonna say like, when I read the story and saw that she was sort of the high end post producer for for the MCU. I was like, okay, that’s been a problem point. For a long time. A pain point is the corporate terminology. So I do think I think that may be why but also, it’s strange to me like you don’t need a fall guy and fall person that high. You could find someone lower to be like, you are in charge of Phase Five post or like, anything or just the Ant-Man post, whatever, like, whatever needed to go like if you need to, like sacrifice someone it could be someone lower than her but the other thing I thought is from a VFX point of view, VFX are changing so much and how they’re made and done and the pace at which they’re made. I think maybe if she is sort of an old guard when it comes to that maybe they want you want to bring in some new energy that can have a different sense of that part of the industry from from a top level point of view. A B I also think if the way that the DC announcements have come out since James Gunn took over are like we’re gonna start to put creative first writers first and if her whole thing is like, hey, oh, you’re gonna do Ant-Man, I’ll start designing the set pieces. That’s not how they want to move forward anymore. It’s we want to like actually write a script first and then start doing that. So maybe she just is part of an old way of doing things.

Alexander Zalben
That definitely seems like even though it’s a very negative thing, a positive way of looking at it. A couple of other things that I threw out there just to respond to what you’re saying. Part of the reason that I think they targeted her is if you fire the guy who was in charge of Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania VFX. That’s not that doesn’t seem to be the scale of the problem, right? Like people complained about She-Hulk. They complained about Ant-Man, they complained about people from Ant-Man being pulled over to Black Panther Wakanda Forever, all of these different things that are going on that who ultimately just the buck stops with that’s the head of VFX right? Yeah. So particularly if you’re looking for somebody prominent there who you could point the finger at, that’s a much clearer thing, particularly to the investors behind the scenes who are like, Yo, you’re losing us money on these movies and TV shows. They’re not driving the same try that type of traffic to Disney plus, or anything like that. Somebody’s gotta go. So having somebody that high up, that’s a way of saying, Oh, look, we got rid of the person who was the problem, however, and this is the other side of it even beyond whatever Victoria Alonso did or didn’t do. It doesn’t solve the problem.

Justin Tyler
Right? Exactly. And we’re purely speculating. It could be any number of reasons that we don’t know. But I agree, like firing someone is a fine solution to talk about, but it doesn’t actually fix your problem. It doesn’t actually move everything forward. It’s just like a blame a slash punishment thing.

Alexander Zalben
Well, and if you think about it from a logistical perspective, and almost makes it worse, right, because even if she was not doing a great job at it, you down don’t have the person who is in charge of that thing. You have 13 million projects that are in development at the current time.

Justin Tyler
It’s like when we fire the fourth host Dave, and

Alexander Zalben
he was in charge of everything. I don’t even– Are we recording this? He Dave was always in charge of recording and-

Justin Tyler
he pressed record.

Alexander Zalben
Pete what’s your take on this?

Pete LePage
Well, first off, I don’t fucking know. I just think it’s it sucks that someone who has an amazing track record like she has it has been killing it since day one got the shaft. So that billows and it seems like they made it like piled a bunch of things on her and pointed out you know, it just sucks when the business side of things can ruin some great creativity and also someone who is very good at their job or whatever is going on. So

Justin Tyler
what if you found out that she was some sort of monster that like didn’t bag and board her comics or something?

Pete LePage
Well yeah, then she just got to go. But yeah, it’s rough. I have no idea what’s going on behind closed doors over there. What’s really going on, but the fact that she’s been there since Iron Man makes me nervous because that was the real start of this new Marvel phase that we see. So

Alexander Zalben
well. I think that gets into the bigger thing that is 100% pure speculation isn’t based on anything necessarily, but I think her leaving should really set up alarm bells about what is going on at Marvel. We’ve been talking about this a bit anyway, in terms of like we just said the movies and TV shows haven’t been hitting it exactly the same way. Certainly a lot of people are feeling overwhelmed about the amount of content through Phase four. And we’re like, Oh, that’s okay. I can go watch something else. Or alternatively, there are people who feel like the movies aren’t as strong they just did. You’ve talked a lot about what is the story of this, where’s this going? So for the first time, we felt like there were these cracks in Marvel’s armor for the first time in a decade, and to have Victoria Alonso one of this trio out in such a shocking way. That’s not a crack that’s like an arm of the arbour falling off and no longer being there. And it makes me legitimately very worried about Marvel’s future like I they’re not going to stop making movies. They’re not going to stop making TV shows. But this if anything, potentially and Pete’s gonna really react to be saying this but potentially could be the beginning of the end for Marvel. Legitimately.

Justin Tyler
What a statement what a strong statement.

Alexander Zalben
It is I’m saying like it is the strongest indication that we could be heading in that direction that we’ve had so far.

Justin Tyler
Perhaps but I also think Marvel succeeded in an truly unprecedented way for the last decade. And there have been some missteps but I think you can write that ship and I think guardians three will be a big step in that direction. And as long as they sort of follow that thread, I think they’ll be in good shape. Let’s not forget that Disney. As the corporate parents, they’re also merciless when it comes to like, like goals. And if you’re not meeting your mark, yeah, we’re gonna take we’re gonna cut an arm off and maybe that arm was this human being.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah. Well, it sucks and I don’t think it’s the end of it. This is the other part I won’t get too. much into it for various reasons. But I think this is just the beginning of this story. There’s a little bit more to the reason they used to get rid of her from Marvel that may lead to other things happening. Law things potentially so serious. Yeah. So there’s gonna be a lot more we’re gonna hear about this, and it may get worse before it gets better. But why don’t we move on to some more fun news items.

Florence Pugh Comments on ThunderboltsThis is the fluffiest possible news item, but Florence Pugh is touring around with her new movie that she’s doing with Zach Braff. And of course got asked about Thunderbolts, this was over on Gamesradar. And she said, I don’t know much about what we’re shooting or what the storyline is. But I’m very lucky to be in this position. That family is very supportive one, whatever they give me, I’ll ask the hell out of it.

Justin Tyler
Love the vibe don’t love the first half of that.

Alexander Zalben
That it it’s I mean not to tie back to this first thing-

Pete LePage
The hard you you don’t know what they’re you don’t I mean, they they don’t explain it to you. It’s gotta be hard as an actor to kind of be like, what are we doing? Like what’s going on? You know,

Justin Tyler
it’s like the idea that she’s like, oh, yeah, if you just point to me and say act angry at this tennis ball. I will. It’s like, oh, that was the literal problem with Ant-Man.

Alexander Zalben
Well, but that’s also we didn’t talk about this last week on the podcast, but there was this quote that was getting passed around from Anthony Mackie, which I didn’t write down so I’m gonna paraphrase here and I think he was joking a little bit for a fact. But he was talking about how Marvel gets him to read scripts that he was like, Yeah, I don’t know. They call me in. I gotta fly over to this computer with a password and there’s an intern they’re eating Cheetos, and he’s like, come on, Hurry up, and I’m like, yo, I’m dyslexic. And he’s like, I don’t care. So

Pete LePage
sounds like a great atmosphere Marvel’s creating there.

Alexander Zalben
This is the problem. If you think about like this Florence Pugh quote, again, she was asked on a carpet so she’s giving like a quick quippy answer, so I’m not gonna read too much into it. But there is the potential for like, they put up that picture of Thunderbolts and she was like, Oh, um, am I in that? Oh, yeah. So not great. Not great.

Justin Tyler
Yeah. But also like, we don’t know how far along in the process it may be that that she hasn’t really done much or like what we know. I mean, maybe we do know more about well, how far along the process where I guess I don’t so it may be that she’s just not in it. Yeah.

Daredevil: Born Again May Feature Flashbacks To Kingpin With HairAlexander Zalben
Yeah. Here is another couple of quick hits. Daredevil Born Again is currently filming here in New York and a little bit of a spoiler. I don’t really think so. But seems like there are some scenes that are gonna be flashbacks to the 90s including what looks like Kingpin as a kid with hair. Pete’s strong opinions about this sort of thing. What do you think?

Pete LePage
Well, that’s, that would be crazy. And I don’t know if I want to see the king pin with air. You don’t I mean, like, I like my king being just the way he is, but could be interesting. You guys. I need you to be out there on the streets, seeing where they’re shooting. What’s going on, though. So you got to get out there, man. start checking out some of the legal you know, get to Hell’s Kitchen. See where they’re filming man.

Justin Tyler
I’m on the street poking. Anytime I see someone with a camera. I knock them over and said hey, this is a Kingpin with hair here

Pete LePage
Marvel what’s going on?

Alexander Zalben
I do love I’m sure you guys have not been paying attention to this but I do love whenever something from Daredevil Born Again pops up in my feed. Because people are going nuts. They’re like, Oh my god. Here it is the first look at Charlie Cox. And I’m like he’s wearing red glasses in a suit. We saw that for three seasons. What are you guys doing here?

Justin Tyler
They’re shooting the cool stuff inside away from people. But Kingpin with hair like I’m down for a Princepin. Let’s see it.

Alexander Zalben
Absolutely. Last thing I’ll say about this. There was also a set photo that came out of Charlie Cox walking by a church and of the church. There was a date on there that was 2000 So people were like, oh my god this takes place during the Blip that’s why Karen and Foggy aren’t gonna be there because they’re blipped away. I think it was just that was just on the church. There was just the church and

Pete LePage
yeah, they haven’t even said sign since 2000.

Alexander Zalben
100% come to New York fellas, you’ll find out.

Justin Tyler
They don’t do a lot of re etching of ancient stones here for movie sets. That’s something they do in post, but maybe a great way to cover fog is just be like he was the one who got blipped permanently.

Alexander Zalben
Foggy blipped for our sins. Yeah. There we go.

Agatha: Coven of Chaos Adds Composer Christophe BeckTo other TV things Agatha Coven of Chaos has added Christophe Beck. Christophe Beck previously composed the music for the three Ant-Man movies and also co-scored Hawkeye.

Justin Tyler
Oh, cool. Sounds good Christmas music maybe maybe it’s all Christmas music.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah. musical numbers.

Justin Tyler
Yeah. I mean, this show that that series The Agatha Coven of Chaos could easily have many musical numbers. That show is a real question mark about what’s going on.

Pete LePage
I’m very excited for that show. That could be a really, really well done show.

Alexander Zalben
Absolutely. And this is clearly a composer that knows how to work in the Marvel Universe. I don’t think the Ant-Man score necessarily jumped out at me or the Hawkeye score.

Justin Tyler
Favorite part of the Ant-Man movies is score.

Alexander Zalben
The score. That’s what the first one was all about was the score. The second one leaned a little less into the crime aspect. Yeah.

Justin Tyler
Nice, good. Yeah, that’s,

Alexander Zalben
but yeah, it’s fine. If you want. It’ll be good. Get Marc Shaiman. I think it was MarkcShaiman who did the musical numbers so get them back? Oh, no, it was the Lopezs did the music. And of course, yeah, please get them to work on the show.

Megan McDonnell and Peter Cameron Join Vision Quest As Writers, Under Jac Schaeffer as Head Writer and EPAnd last but not least, Megan McDonnell and Peter Cameron have joined VisionQuest as writers under Jac Schaeffer, his head writer and EP both of them wrote on WandaVision, so we’re Agatha Coven of Chaos is doing whatever it’s doing and seems the most direct sequel to WandaVision. This seems to be taking the WandaVision team and moving them on to a story of white vision, which is very exciting to me.

Justin Tyler
well and let me say while it may seem that Agatha is the sequel, this feels like the spiritual sequel that this will have the what we loved about WandaVision and taken into a new direction.

Alexander Zalben
Well trying to get what do you want to see out of VisionQuest because we know White Vision left after the whole Ship of Theseus thing at the end of WandaVision? There’s a whole Vision Quest storyline of the West Coast Avengers comic books. I don’t think they’re gonna directly adapt that in any way because that doesn’t make any sense. But what do you want to see here? What do you want to see in the storyline in the show potentially?

Justin Tyler
I would like to see even though it’s a little bit duplicating the WandaVision stuff. I would like to see some of the Tom King Vision Series here where vision creates a family and tries to live a suburban life. That I love that comic series and I think there’s a lot of just great adaptability there to bring that to TV. So that and really what I want to see is visions version. I think these two series should almost like be bookends to each other. I want to see visions version of the quest of finding out who he is without his partner or like what his life is basically.

Alexander Zalben
Pete What about you what do you want to see on a VisionQuest?

Pete LePage
Good show.

Alexander Zalben
Great. Thanks, Pete. I agree with that. I think you know, to jump off of what you were saying, Justin, what I would love to see out of this. WandaVision, at least critically is still the strongest show that Disney has put out and I think at least part of that is how they executed it creatively on an episodic basis. So if they can really think about that, like what is the creative execution? I don’t need to see them do sitcom episodes except with vision or anything like that. But what is the thing that makes this a show? Why are you doing this show? And beyond? This is the question they should be asking for all of these things. But beyond like, it’s a franchise extension. Are we like these characters? What can they do? What is the reason for having a show about Vision and how are we doing it as a TV show? Given the gap, Jac Schaeffer, given that you have these two writers coming on and potentially more of the staff, that makes me very excited for the potential of something that can feel really really special?

Justin Tyler
Agreed What if his quest is to coach up a struggling British football team and try to make them win the league you know?

Alexander Zalben
Oh, Viz Lasso?

Justin Tyler
Viz Lasso

Alexander Zalben
Oh man, Pete, would you be more into it then?

Pete LePage
Yes.

Alexander Zalben
Great.

Justin Tyler
Pete, only giving hard short answers.

Alexander Zalben
Oh my goodness, you got thrown by Kingpin with hair and you haven’t come back since. Folks, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for tuning in. We appreciate it. You can support this podcast and all the podcasts we do at patreon.com/comic book club. Also read a live show every Tuesday night at 7pm to Crowdcast and YouTube, come hang out we would love to chat with you about Marvel, Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or the app of your choice to subscribe, listen and follow the show at Marvel vision pod on twitter instagram and facebook comic book club live.com for this podcast and many more, until next time, stay marvelous.

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On the first ever Required Reading episode of our DC podcast, we’re diving into Tom King and Bilquis Evely’s Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. The eight episode series channels ’70s style space adventure books and other sources to craft a new tale of Kara Zor-El, and her new companion Ruthye as they go on a mission of revenge. In this episode, we’re breaking down the inspiration for the series, its legacy, reactions on reading it again, and speculation about how the story will fit into James Gunn’s new DC Universe — and whether Sasha Calle will return to the role after The Flash.

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Alex: Welcome to Sons of a Gunn, a podcast about all things DC. I’m Alex Gunn.

Justin: I’m Justin Gunn.

Pete: And I’m Pete.

Alex: Also last name Gunn.

Pete: Gunn. Yep.

Alex: Important to mention for legal reasons, we’re not allowed to say who our father is, but we are identical triplets and we love the DC Universe. Totally unrelated for our dad. Wink. Wink. Anyway, this is the first episode of our Required Reading.

Pete: Nothing like giving the audience homework before they have to listen to a podcast.

Justin: Well, dad said that everyone had to read this stuff. I mean, James Gunn said that we all had to read [inaudible 00:00:54].

Alex: But yes, James Gunn, who is the new head of DC Studios, after he announced his upcoming Slate Chapter One: Gods and Monsters, he tweeted out a bunch of books that he said really inspired what they’re doing. One of them, the first one we’re going to start with here, is very much a one-to-one. It’s Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, which is also the name of one of the movies that they’re doing. It is clearly very specifically inspired by that, and we’re going to talk about that at the end of the podcast.

But as comic book podcasters and hosts for the past 15 years plus, we’ve definitely reviewed a ton of comics and we love talking about comics, so even beyond the movie stuff, what we’re going to do with these Required Reading podcasts is take a deep dive either into or back into the book, in this case, because we did review every issue individually on our The Stack podcast. So that’s the groundwork here.

Let’s talk a little bit about the book, which, mind you, as soon as James Gunn tweeted this and three other books out, they sold out immediately. They’re not available physically unless you can find an old copy or a used copy somewhere. You got to get it digitally, at least right now. But DC said they’re going back to print on all of this stuff, so that’s good.

Justin: Cool.

Alex: It is cool.

Justin: It’s exciting just as a comic reader to see the impact that doing a story set specifically from a book like this can really have. It’s great.

Alex: Yeah. And this is, just to continue this side trip a little bit, I love the fact that they’ve been putting in the trailers for the DC movies at the end, here’s three books that you could buy that inspired this movie or we will let you read more about the movie. It’s something we’ve been asking for for decades for the movies to do, and it seems like something they’re really leaning into. So very exciting.

This is Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. It’s written by Tom King, art by Bilquis Evely.

Justin: Come on.

Alex: Come on. Colors by Matheus Lopes. Come on. Letters by Clayton Cowles. I wanted to mention this here because they were, apparently at least, part of the inspiration behind this, and Tom King credits them as working very heavily at crafting the book. Edited by Brittany Holzherr and Jamie S. Rich.

So, background on this book. This is a eight issue series released starting June 2021, running through February 2022. In 2022, it was nominated for best limited series at the Eisner Awards, which, if you don’t know, is sort of the Oscars of comic books. It lost. It lost the Eisner. Didn’t get the Eisner. Which I was very surprised to see, because this book is phenomenal. But man, tough competition that year. Pete, you’re going to get a angry about this, but the Beta Ray Bill book that Daniel Warren Johnson was also up for the Eisner that year. Another phenomenal book. There are a couple of other phenomenal limited series, but one-

Pete: Wait, wait. What won? What Beat out-

Alex: Well, this is the thing, is it lost to The Good Asian by Pornsak Pichetshote. Sorry, I always mangle that name. I apologize. And Alexandre Tefenkgi, another great book. So very tough competition, but this is right up there in terms of one of the best books of that year. Also, a little bit of groundwork-

Pete: Wait, wait. I just wanted to say, while we’re talking about the art, this is one of the most beautiful books I’ve ever read. This comic was such a breath of fresh air in The Stack and was so beautiful. The page layouts, everything was just absolutely gorgeous. So well thought out, so well done. It’s a breathtaking book. It is unbelievable. Worth it for the art alone. I just wanted to [inaudible 00:04:32].

Alex: No, and thank you for bringing it up now in the middle of laying the groundwork for the history, because we weren’t planning on reviewing the book at all. [inaudible 00:04:39].

Justin: I didn’t even notice there was art here. I’ve just listened to it as an audio comic book. It’s hard.

Alex: Honestly, this is one that kind of actually would work as an audiobook. I know you’re making a joke.

Justin: Sure.

Alex: But a couple of other things that I wanted to mention here. I went back and I read this interview, I think, gosh, I should have looked up, I think it was on SyFy, actually, syfy.com, where they talk about-

Justin: S-Y-F-Y, how I spell sci-fi.

Alex: SyFy. Tom King talked a little bit. If you don’t know him as an author, he writes very dark corners of the DC Universe, and he said that a lot of the stuff he was writing, in particular Rorschach and Heroes in Crisis, and… I’m forgetting the other book that he wrote. Oh, Strange, Strange.

Justin: Strange Adventures.

Alex: Strange Adventures, thank you. I wanted to say Strange World, the Disney book. But all those books were very, very dark books, and he said they were specifically inspired by 2020 and the darkness of the world, and it felt like there was no hope left, and that’s something that he really wanted to explore, deal with those feelings that he was feeling. And as he started to think about it, as he started to move forward, they’re started to feel like, to him, these glimmers of hope.

Things are still very dark. They’re still very grim. But that’s what he was looking at here in terms of Supergirl, is trying to find that spark of light in that overall grimness that he was feeling for the world. Moving over to the art that Pete thankfully mentioned, Evely actually sent a mood board over to Tom King, and I think this really hones in on a lot of what the art is. She was inspired by 70s European books, Mobius in particular, as well as some of the weird stuff from John Buscema and Gil Kane. The quote that Tom King used, which I got to say, as a fan of this book, I don’t think he’s quite on par here, but he said, “This is our Incal,” which is a pretty famous wild graphic novel. Incal’s way wilder than this. Nothing against this book. But interesting thing there. It also points to a lot of these books that he’s calling out, the John Buscema and the Gil Kane books, they are 70s epic space adventures like John Carter, Warlord of Mars, which seems like a very direct inspiration here.

Pete: Man, John Carter. Was one of us a huge John Carter fan. I can’t remember.

Alex: Okay, this is crossing the podcast streams, but after a screening of the John Carter movie-

Pete: You were so hyped. You were so hyped.

Alex: You weren’t there, Pete.

Justin: You were hyped.

Alex: It was just me and Justin.

Pete: You were so hyped.

Alex: We came out and a PR agent asked us, “How did you think?” And I said, “I could see this being somebody’s Star Wars.” And that’s somehow-

Pete: You changed your quote. [inaudible 00:07:19].

Alex: That’s what I said. That’s what I said.

Pete: That’s not what you said.

Alex: I did say… Over the years, this has nothing to do with this book, over the years, this story became, I came out and said, “This is this generation Star Wars,” which I [inaudible 00:07:32].

Justin: That’s the quote I remember.

Pete: You were so hyped.

Alex: I did not say that.

Pete: You were so John Carter hyped up.

Justin: Alex, I know this [inaudible 00:07:39]

Alex: Here’s the thing, it’s panned out with all the John Carter sequels and the spinoffs and the TV series. It is this generation’s Star Wars.

Justin: It has panned. I will tell you that. I was just listening to a podcast talking about mistakes Disney’s made over the years, and John Carter was literally the biggest mistake in the last 100 years of Hollywood or something.

Alex: Well, what was that podcast, we’re wrong about everything, the podcast.

Justin: Yeah, it was Alex’s actual quotes.com.

Alex: Last little bit of history that I want to say here that I thought was kind of interesting. Steve Orlando, who’s a great comic book writer, we’ve had him on our live show a bunch of times, actually helped out Tom King figure out the character of Supergirl when he was trying to tackle it. Again, I’m not 100% sure about this, but I thought this was an interesting take. What Steve apparently offered up to Tom King, and they’re both Jewish in their background, at least in part, what Steve said is that Superman is the baby that was sent away before the Holocaust starts. Supergirl is the kid who was in the Holocaust and managed to survive. I definitely think that plays into the way that Tom King writes throughout this book. Again, I don’t know that I 100% agree with that.

Pete: That’s heavy shit, bro.

Alex: It is very heavy, but I don’t know. It plays into certainly the way that Tom King crafts the story.

Justin: Well, and I don’t think that’s used so one-to-one as that type of sort of tragic scar on her that is really present the whole time, but it’s definitely an undertone. And you see some flashes throughout the series of her dealing with the trauma. I think when the series starts, we pick up with her sort of in her cups, as they say, having some drinks, being sad about her lost family, lost planet, everything. And I think that this melancholy she has throughout the series is very much rooted in that, I think.

Alex: Well, and it definitely plays into… I think it’s the seventh issue when we finally get quote, unquote “Supergirl’s origin,” which shows her Argo City surviving after the explosion of Krypton, dying from radiation poisoning, and her just looking out at this destruction, trying to save what she can. So that definitely plays in there.

I think that segues us nicely into the plot. Just to give you a broad overview of the plot. It is narrated by this new character called Ruthye, I think that’s how you pronounce it. She is an alien farmer, young girl, lives on a world that doesn’t really know from space travel or aliens or anything like that, and this man kills her father and she begins a quest for vengeance to go and kill him back.

Pete: Quest for vengeance.

Alex: At which point she encounters Supergirl. This man also hurts Krypto, the super dog, shoots him with an arrow, terrifying, horrifying scene, and so they’re both united in this purpose to track down this guy and go on a long universal track to finally track him down, ultimately leading to the question of, should you kill this man or should you not? And there’s plenty of twists and turns there. So that’s the broadest possible overview of the story.

Now let’s talk about it. We, like I said, reviewed every issue individually on The Stack. Pete, I know has some qualms about it, but I think overall we love the series and we love the direction of the series and loved aspects of the series. But particularly revisiting it now, what struck you, what jumped out at you, but not the art, because we’ve already talked about the art.

Pete: Come on, man. No, we can’t talk about this book [inaudible 00:11:16] without talking about the art. And what I’m really worried about is this is a real achievement in comics. This feel, this mood, this tone, this is such a great way to be introduced to Supergirl. She’s not in the shadow of her cousin, it’s just about her struggle, her story, and it’s this kind of cowboy in space story with a little bit of kind of vengeance in there. And I think it’s such a beautiful way to start her story, and such an interesting, unique thing that, as a reader of comic books, I’ve seen her story a bunch of different ways, and this one is just so striking and so unique.

It kind of reminds me a little bit of The Mandalorian, where it’s just kind of her on an adventure. You know what I mean? You’re not constantly bumping into other DC characters and stuff. It’s just kind of her out there, and it’s just such a beautiful… I’m really worried about what they’re going to do when they translate this, because the comic is an achievement.

Alex: I’m going to cut you off there [inaudible 00:12:26]. No, it’s fine, I 100% agree with you, and we’ll get to that more towards the end. I mean, one note that I’ll throw out, just because it’s coming up, when they did announce the movie, they were like, Tom King’s incredible story, and I was like, yo, Bilquis Evely is not just 50% of this, she’s like 60, 70%, something like that.

Pete: I’d say 80.

Alex: The other thing that I wanted to mention about the art, without getting… Again, we’ll talk about the movie adaptation towards the end of the podcast, but what really struck me this time was the colors by Matheus Lopes that are phenomenal throughout. The art is absolutely beautiful, but the way the colors pop and make these different alien landscapes feel unique from each other, is stunning. There’s these washes of pages, these layouts, that are just double pages spreads. I’m thinking of one, by the way, I probably should have mentioned we’re going to get into heavy spoilers for the book, so if you haven’t read it, skip this part, go to the movie stuff if you want to go to that talk. But we’re definitely going to talk about every aspect.

There’s a thing towards the end when Comet shows up and Supergirl is flying through space on Comet, this double page splash where you see them appear multiple times, and that’s a beautiful image of it itself. But Comet and Supergirl are so tiny on this page in places, it’s mostly up to Lopez’s colors to make everything pop and make that composition work. And it really does

Justin: I think the variety and the world building of the different issues and then the different art styles, or color styles and art design of the characters and worlds, really feeds into the story a lot. We’re talking about how much an artist can influence the actual storytelling, and I think with this, it really shows time and space passing. They’re traveling for so long, there’s a weariness to this book. Supergirl is always portrayed as this bright young innocent hero who’s like just there to save the day, and we don’t get into a lot of this painful backstory or the fact that she has to be bright and shiny despite the fact that she’s facing just waves and waves of evil all the time. And I think the art really helps to tell that side of the story.

Alex: The other thing that I think is interesting, and this doesn’t exactly jump from the art, but, like Pete was saying, we start off with Supergirl, 21 years old, she’s celebrating her 21st birthday at the beginning of the book by getting drunk on a planet that has a red sun, because she can’t get drunk otherwise, because she’s Supergirl.

Justin: That’s the way I do it too. I have to go-

Pete: Same.

Alex: It is an interesting dynamic, because you’re getting this true grit thing that you expect to get from The Mandalorian, from Lone Wolf and Cub, all of these different stories, it’s usually a wizened older man and a young girl or young boy that’s tagging along with them on this mission of vengeance. Having Supergirl somewhat closer in age, but still more life experience than Ruthye, it changes their dynamic. It doesn’t exactly make them equals, but it makes them more understandable to each other. And I don’t know, it’s interesting how that dynamic changes it.

I also think it changes the dynamic that it’s two female characters instead of a male character and a female character or a male character and a male character. And it’s little changes like that, but they definitely work in terms of executing on a story that does feel fresh and new, even when it’s hitting all of these tropes across the board.

Justin: We talked a lot of about the western nature of it, but it has this sort of storybook fantasy angle on it as well, where it’s like a quest, they wander except it has the modern take that they’re constantly underestimated. Supergirl’s like, “Who cares about you?” Or “I’ve heard about you.” And then she has to kick ass over and over again to prove who she is and that she has faced all of this before and is back here again trying to help out the situation, but dealing with just horrible… There are so many issues in this where it’s just encounters horrifying tragedy that she has to swallow and then find a way to move on from.

Alex: One other interesting emotional thread that I think goes through the entire book is, there are no easy answers. We ultimately find out at the end of the book that a lot of this journey, Supergirl didn’t really need to go on. She needed Ruthye to identify the face of the guy that they were looking for, but Krypto, who you’re worried about the entire length of the book, is fine. She reveals that as a little twist at the end, that Krypto is okay. But what she was trying to do was teach Ruthye that you don’t kill, and that is not a thing you do and that is not a thing you should do, but she knew she could only learn by example, so they end up in all of these situations where that’s challenged.

And I do think that gets to the heart of a big difference between how Tom King is treating Supergirl here versus Superman, where Superman is just this very earnest, I always do the right thing no matter what, except in cinema, when I’m snapping people’s necks. But in comics, yeah, I’m always doing the right thing. I always maybe don’t know immediately the right thing to do, but I always figure it out.

Supergirl, the way that they depicted her here, struggles with that a lot more, and so she is able to make that connection with Ruthye, who is very naive, has never been outside the world, and ultimately it isn’t even necessarily about her learning not to kill so much as her learning the process of how you make a choice whether to kill or not.

Justin: Right. Yeah. And I think what we were talking about earlier with the difference between Superman and Supergirl’s origins, where he was a baby when he left his planet, never had to deal with the reality of that loss, and she felt it. And I think that informs sort of the slightly controversial end of this book.

I think another aspect of this story is, it’s about holding pain. She’s holding her pain. There’s a lot of talk in here about how hey, Supergirl is in pain for her whole life basically. And it’s hard to read that, it influences the way you look at every Supergirl story, not just this one. So she has her own pain and then she is taking on the pain of others, Ruthye, all these other different alien species they encounter. And it’s about how that wears down your ability to make the choice that you’re talking about, Alex.

Alex: I do want to ask about one particular scene, on that note. As they’re traveling to these various alien planets, they… Sorry, I forgot to write it down. What is the name of the villain in the book?

Justin: Clem.

Alex: Clem. Thank you. So Clem starts as this guy who is just a lone, bad guy, loan villain, and then ultimately he falls in with these brigands, these thieves who are completely overpowered pirates to the point that the final fight against Supergirl in the last two issues, they’re able to take her down for a good portion of time. So he’s a legitimate threat to her, which is surprising coming from somebody that doesn’t necessarily have superpowers, but they stop on a planet where one of the brigands has been caught, they’re following along sort of the path of destruction that these brigands have caused, and this planet is punishing this brigand by essentially stoning him to death, but just piling stones on him until he dies. And Ruthye and Supergirl are watching them, and Ruthye says sometimes the effect of, “I thought you were going to stop them.” And Supergirl says, “Now, why would you think that?”

Now Supergirl clearly is letting this girl, this person, die. What do you think about that moment? What do you take away from that moment?

Pete: Well, I mean, there’s a couple things that first pop in-

Justin: Sorry, real quick. It was Krem, not Clem.

Alex: Krem.

Justin: I was wrong.

Alex: Okay.

Justin: Krem.

Pete: I was like, Clem, that sounds a little too… But anyways, the first thing that kind of pops into my head is what’s interesting is Supergirl’s reaction to that. You know what I mean? Because we’re all kind of thinking, what’s Supergirl going to do here? But it’s this interesting idea of, she’s visiting another planet. They have their own set of rules that they live by, their own kind of thing, and if they want to just pile… It’s not like they’re throwing them, they’re just piling them on somebody.

Justin: That’s nice.

Pete: [inaudible 00:21:10].

Justin: I’d still not like the piling.

Pete: Yeah, I mean, the piling, sure, but at least you’re not getting hit all the time. [inaudible 00:21:17].

Justin: I feel like the end result’s pretty not good.

Pete: Well, when you’re dying, sure. You know what I mean?

Justin: I’ll remember that.

Alex: But if you got your choice, Pete, if you got your choice, you’d be like, pile some rocks on me?

Pete: Well, if somebody was going to kill me, but then was like, “Hey, here’s a pillow first” I’d be like, “Thank you,” and then I would die.

Justin: What if they were smothering you with that pillow?

Pete: It’s still a nice gesture.

Justin: What if they were piling pillows over your breathing holes, so then you died?

Alex: How many pillows do you think it would take to kill you? Probably a lot. Huh?

Justin: To crush you?

Alex: Yeah, to crush you to death.

Pete: Well, it would be… I don’t know if there is enough pillows to crush you to death.

Alex: Gosh, we got to get a scientist on the next podcast, or that MyPillow guy. Maybe we’ll have [inaudible 00:21:57] info for us.

Pete: That sounds like a horrible idea.

Justin: That guy knows exactly how many pillows it takes to crush somebody. What a great way to go out. Anyway, you were saying, Pete, that you liked this guy dying.

Pete: No, I was just saying that it was interesting, the fact that she responded that way. It was kind of a cool needle scratch where it was like, there’s stuff going on here, we don’t always have to interfere and interject ourselves onto things.

Justin: Well, it’s like, if it’s stepping out… When we meet Supergirl in the beginning of the story, she has been to all these plants. It’s not like she doesn’t know about it, but she’s learned the lessons that while Superman goes into any situation and is like bad guy, good guy, got it. Her here, she’s like, it’s not as cut and dry in that. This person may have committed a crime and this is his punishment. This is what justice is on this planet. It’s not my job to save every life.

And it directly informs… Ruthye is like, “I’m going to kill Krem of the Yellow Hills. No problem. Soon as I get my hands on him” from the jump, and it’s about, like you said, Alex, she’s teaching her that lesson throughout the course of this, and this is a huge part of that lesson.

Alex: That was the thing that I was going to bring up is, at the end of the book, Supergirl actually is the one who steps up and is going to kill Krem, or seemingly going to kill Krem, and Ruthye stops her. So you could draw a direct line from that moment where Ruthye is disturbed by Supergirl’s behavior where they’re stoning this guy to death and ultimately making the decision to spare Krem, at least in that moment. So I think there’s an interesting connection there.

I do want to talk about one of my favorite issues, though, which is Mordru globe issue. They finally catch up to Krem on a lava flow, and he’s got an ace in the hole, which Superman, Supergirl, all the Kryptonians, they have a weakness to magic. So he pulls out this magic globe called the Mordru globe that sucks Supergirl and Ruthye in, and sends her to a planet that has a green kryptonite, sun, I believe, it is full of monsters, and a very tempting oasis that they want to ignore. And this is another very specific contrast point between Superman and Supergirl, where we find out Superman was also stranded on this world. He was eventually rescued by the Justice League, and the amount of time he was there was 45 minutes. On the other hand, Supergirl doesn’t have anybody coming to rescue her and she has to survive there for 10 hours with only Ruthye and a sword, and she can’t do anything.

Pete: Well, I think you bring up a good point. You can try to ignore Oasis as much as you can, but, I mean, they got some hits, you know what I mean, and eventually you’re going to be listening to the radio and it’s like you can try to ignore Oasis for as long as you want, but they’re just going to creep in.

Alex: If they were playing a concert, I don’t care how many monsters there were, I’m there, man.

Justin: That’s what I assume when I’m lost in the desert. I just hope there’s an Oasis cover band playing.

Alex: After all, there’s a Wonderwall. You know what I’m talking about?

Justin: Strong. Remember when everyone was like, “They’re cool. They’re good. They’re the new Beatles.” And then [inaudible 00:25:10].

Alex: What? No one said that.

Justin: People said that.

Pete: Lots of people said that.

Alex: No way.

Justin: No. Then one of the Gallagher brothers was like, “I actually think I’m the reincarnated John Lennon.” And everyone was like, “Yo, dude [inaudible 00:25:19].”

Alex: Back it off. What did you guys think about this issue? Did you like this one as much as I did?

Justin: Yes. I mean, there are a lot of great issues. The one on the reread that I like the most was, I think, issue three, the one where she’s on the planet where everyone seems nice and it’s because they killed half of the people on the planet.

Pete: [inaudible 00:25:41].

Justin: The blue versus purple town, and Krem comes in and kills them. That one was just so dark and so realistic to me. But this one was very much the superhero, the makings of a hero type issue, and I loved the scene we get finally of her talking to her dad right before she’s sent off of Krypton. I thought that was such a great exclamation point in the middle of this issue.

Alex: Pete, what about you? Do you have a favorite issue from this one?

Pete: I do. I just think the first one is such an epic, kind of really sets the tone for this unbelievable thing. I also love the way it starts of her just wanting to drink with her dog and have a moment. Very much-

Alex: You’d love to drink with a dog. That’s like one of bucket list, right, man?

Pete: I felt very seen in that moment.

Justin: Spuds MacKenzie, you think? Or do you want to [inaudible 00:26:42]

Pete: Any dog.

Justin: Any dog. [inaudible 00:26:43].

Alex: Does it need to be a talking dog?

Pete: I’ll drink. Spuds MacKenzie, is what my… But anyways, I just think that the start of this was such a mind-blowing, kind of different look at Supergirl in such a great way that I thought the start of this was such a cool, epic idea. If you don’t have a good start to something, it’s not going to happen. So I was just really impressed with what they were able to accomplish in that first issue and setting up this unbelievable thing that we’re still talking about to this day and is now going to maybe become a movie.

Alex: Well, hold your horses there. I do want to ask you in the opposite direction though, Pete, because I know, first of all, you’re probably nowhere near as big of a Tom King fanboy as me and Justin.

Pete: That’s true.

Alex: You seem to be much more critical of his work. And you did express earlier, before we were on here, some reservations about the story as a whole. What are those? What are your concerns there? What are the things that don’t quite work for you?

Pete: Well, I just think sometimes Tom King’s storytelling and withholding information and having this kind of melancholy grief, things aren’t good, depressing kind of mood, sometimes can be a tough way to get people onboard. I don’t want to be depressed for two hours, why am I going to see this? That was some of my initial concerns.

And also, the way Tom King unfolds information can sometimes be frustrating, because it’s not we know and the character is going to catch up to us, it’s we’re all learning together, and sometimes that can be a little tough.

Justin: Well, I feel like this one, there’s less of that coyness. I feel we’re really riding along with Supergirl the entire time. We’re not withheld what’s happening. Very much an adventure story that we’re along the right for. But I will say there is definitely that melancholy that you feel throughout this and sort of an inevitability of evil. Like, we’re never going to beat evil, every day evil, but at the end of the day, it’s still worth pushing back against it. And Supergirl embodies that, despite her world weariness.

Alex: Well, we’ve definitely.

Pete: She embodies evil.

Alex: She embodies evil. Just to throw it out there, we’ve talked about this before on other podcasts and things, I think part of it is, you look at comics as an escape, right? You want that aspirational, heroic aspect, where they win no matter what. And a lot of what Tom King is dealing with, like we talked about at the beginning here, is the hopelessness of the past couple of years. And like Justin was getting at, there is that glimmer there, because Supergirl ultimately does, up to a point, and then we should probably talk about the ending of this book, up to a point, inspire Ruthye and inspire other people to do better, and certainly tries to do better herself and fight against her own darkness. But that’s still there. Like you’re saying, there is, melancholy is a great word for it, running throughout the entire book. There’s the sadness, there’s the sparseness in Bilquis Evely’s art. It’s all going on there. It’s so good.

Let’s talk about the ending. And you’ve already been spoiled about the book in case you’re listening, but definitely turn away here. So the whole book is a book that Ruthye has written about this. And in her book she ends it with Supergirl killing Krem. That’s not actually what happens. They stop from killing Krem and, as we find out at the end, he has been banished to the Phantom Zone. Supergirl comes back years later, when Ruthye is an old woman, to release him from the Phantom Zone where she knows he’s been trapped for hundreds of years and ultimately repented his sins, become a better person, even though he is a scraggly old man at this point. He comes out and begs Ruthye for forgiveness, and, in the last page, that mirrors the artistic layout of the first page, where Krem killed Ruthye’s father, we see Ruthye smack him to death with a cane as Supergirl looks on, seemingly surprised, and then they walk off in opposite directions.

Justin sounds like you feel like this is a controversial ending. What do you take away from this and how do you feel about it?

Justin: Well, I think it’s controversial, not necessarily to me, but I think other people were like, Supergirl basically let that killing happen. And I thought we had established that justice here was not killing him, but putting him away for all that time.

Pete: Yeah, it’s almost like killing him twice. He had to do this sentence in the Phantom Zone, and then he got caned to death. One of those would’ve been-

Alex: Just real quick, would you rather be caned to death or crushed with a billion pillows, Pete?

Pete: Billion pillows all day.

Alex: Billion pillows. Okay. It’s going to be much slower.

Justin: Really? What if the cane is really soft, like a really-

Pete: Still going with pillows, man. I’m still going with pillows.

Justin: Feather cane.

Alex: Smacked for 30 years with a nice soft cane until you die.

Justin: Isn’t that what life is? Isn’t that what life is?

Pete: Sometimes the cane’s not so soft.

Justin: But I do think the lesson here was the punishment needs to fit the crime, and as much time as he had to reform, and as much as maybe he did reform when he was in the Phantom Zone, Ruthye had all this time to sort of move past it. And I think the point we’re left with here is that Ruthye wasn’t able to move past it, so that meant the crime was not satisfied in its punishment. If she couldn’t move past it, then he needed to have a final judgment.

I’m not saying that’s right, but I think that’s the idea here. And so, just like Supergirl let the justice be carried out on the planet as it was, that’s why she didn’t intercede here, because she’s like, it’s not my justice. This is the justice between them. The crime was between them, the justice is between them, and she’s there sort of like a steward, almost. She taught the lesson and now she’s here to see the lesson paid off.

Alex: I think it’s very much up to the interpretation of the reader, particularly because the way that Bilquis Evely draws it is all in silhouette, so you can’t actually see what Supergirl’s reaction is, but I certainly take away from her body language, surprise. That’s what I read there. Because I do think Supergirl comes to this situation expecting, well, this is closure on this story, I’m going to bring Krem to Ruthye, and she’s going to forgive him, and then he’s going to go live the, I want to say conservatively, three to six months left he has in his life before-

Pete: Oh, come on, man.

Justin: That’s nice.

Alex: He’s a scraggly old man. I know I said that earlier, but-

Justin: What are you, are you a Krem doctor over here?

Alex: I got my Krem doctorate at Krem University.

Pete: You don’t know. That alien race could live for millions of years. You have no idea.

Alex: No, I don’t. I don’t.

Justin: Did that mean she should have killed him if he was going to live much longer?

Pete: Yeah. What’s that about?

Alex: That’s a great question. I’m not going to answer. But the main thing that I’d say is I think this is not the outcome that Supergirl expected, and I think that’s why they walk in opposite directions, because Supergirl is ultimately going off to a place of, no, we do not kill. That is not what we do. I’m always striving to do better. And Ruthye is like, well, lived my entire life, killed this guy. That’s what I needed to do. I thought about it for a long time and decided back on that beach I made the wrong decision.

Justin: That’s like dessert. Her life’s dessert.

Pete: I think there’s a lot of life stuff that happens in between the panels here. What we didn’t see was he was like, “Hey, can you forgive me?” And she was like, “No, I can’t.” And he was like, “All right, well, I got some weird radiation in the Phantom Zone, if you could just end my misery by caning me to death right here, that would be great. So that way I can-“

Justin: Now, wait, do you really feel like you need something like that in here for this to fit? Are you left unsatisfied with this? Because Supergirl is allowing or assisting in a murder?

Pete: I didn’t like the Sopranos ending on this a little bit, where it was kind of like, I don’t know, we’re going to walk away in different directions. Both people kind of scratching their head going, I don’t feel good about this. It’s such a beautiful, amazing achievement, and the ending is a little kind of weak sauce.

Justin: But I don’t know though, I think that’s very much the point of the ending. I don’t think the ending was like, I don’t know what to do. I’ll just have them walk away. I think this was very intentional. It’s not like the sauce got weaker at the end, I think it’s just-

Pete: I think it’s just one of those things where… And again, it comes back to what [inaudible 00:35:28] was saying is, I want this not to match what’s happening outside, where there’s tons of sad stories and the good guy doesn’t always win, but in comics it’s nice to get a hopeful story. So I’m always rooting for that instead of the reality that this story built that it did a great job of just staying in.

Justin: Well, I think that’s Tom King’s thing, is injecting some real world gray area into a lot of comic book stories, and that’s definitely what this is here. Let me ask you this, Pete, though, would you want revenge if Krem, or a Krem like figure, had shot an arrow through Spuds MacKenzie, your drinking [inaudible 00:36:07]?

Pete: Yeah, exactly. Especially [inaudible 00:36:10].

Justin: Because I have a feeling you would murder that dude a heartbeat.

Alex: I think, maybe I read this wrong, but I think that’s how Spuds died, right?

Pete: Oh, come on, man.

Justin: Space Pirate. That’s the part they leave out of the legend. Space pirate killed Spuds.

Alex: They got to put that in some of those Bud ads, man. Before we move on here, are there other moments from the book that you wanted to call out, things jumped out to you, scenes, et cetera? Pete, I’m sure you have a list a mile long.

Pete: Well, I just think it’s one of the-

Justin: Did you mention the art, Pete?

Pete: Don’t worry, I’m getting to it.

Alex: Did he? I’ll rewind the podcast real quick just to check [inaudible 00:36:43].

Pete: It’s one of those things where flashbacks and stuff can be done well, can be done not so well. I was really impressed with the way that they kind of did this, where we got to see parts of her life and the coloring and the choices that they made. So I was really impressed with that in this book.

I feel like there are a ton of different ways to tell the stories, but the way that they kind of leaned into the art and the coloring to set this mood and tone that wasn’t a Supergirl story that we’ve seen before. We got a lot of new information in this story. Also, it showed her being a badass in a way that wasn’t as bright and as kind of I’m bulletproof and an alien. We felt her pain, we felt her struggle, we felt these things, and it felt very human. It didn’t feel very alien to me. And it was really successfully done and really impressive.

Justin: One other observation I had coming out of rereading this was, it’s very much like an American folk tale, sort of like your John Henry or Paul Bunyan, and she even says in the first issue right when we meet her, truth, justice, and the American way. And I thought that line stuck out a little bit, it felt very purposeful. And in American folk tales it’s a great adventure, but then John Henry dies at the end. The hero is just like, whoops, too much for my heart. Falls over dead. And I think that’s the idea here, is that it’s an amazing story, but reality is always there and it’s very American to be like, I did this great thing and now I died. So it has that, it’s tinged with that. You don’t see that in a lot of superhero storytelling, so I think that’s great. And I’m curious how they will translate that, that darkness, that melancholy, to the screen.

Pete: Now, are you curious or scared?

Justin: Scared.

Alex: Well, hold on. Before we get there, I just want to kind of wrap up talking about the book a little bit. One observation that I wanted to throw out there that I really appreciated during this read through, is the idea that the universe is bigger than one character. And what I mean by that is a lot of books will have Superman going through a story and the villain of the story is very tied towards Superman and is very focused on Superman and everything is Superman, Superman, Superman, Superman.

This definitely ties into the emotional and other themes of the characters, Supergirl and Ruthye, as they go through these adventures, but it definitely clearly implies, and outright state’s at points, there’s a lot of other things going on. They all tie into their story, but there’s a point at the end when Ruthye is talking about, “Now I got to take a break from the narrative here, because I wasn’t actually on this ship when Supergirl was fighting these brigands, so I need to go off other people’s descriptions,” and she talks about another book that was entirely about this moment, and that really struck me, the idea that, of course, in a realistic universe where all this DC stuff is happening, it’s not like everybody’s like, “What’s going on on earth? Let’s read Superman 1 to 82 to find out.” There’s a lot of things going on in a lot of places and a lot of people will be writing in a lot of different ways, and, I don’t know, it’s just a little detail that makes the world feel bigger that I really, really liked quite a bit.

Justin: Yeah, agreed.

Alex: I do want to throw out one more thing about the comic to you guys as a question, as a discussion, question here, if you will, in classic book club fashion.

Justin: Comic book club.

Alex: What does the title mean? Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. What does it mean? How does it tie into the themes of the book?

Justin: I think that’s a great question. I was thinking about this, because it’s very much a bright, shiny Disneyland title for a book that is not that at all. And I think it’s about sort of really giving us a starting point with the character, to be like Supergirl, she’s this bright, shiny, woman of tomorrow, so that gives us something to undercut from the jump of the story. And I like that as a way of putting a flag and then giving us a true beginning to really get this story going.

Pete: To me, it kind of sets up this thing of her growing as a person, as an alien, I shouldn’t-

Justin: Thanks for clarifying.

Pete: Into a woman of tomorrow as far as just their trials and tribulations. This kind of growth that we all go through, hopefully becoming something better tomorrow. So it is hopeful, which is completely the opposite, as Justin was saying, as the tone of the book. So it’s a weird title to put on such a interesting take on Supergirl.

Alex: Totally agree with everything you guys are saying. I think, first of all, Tom King, whether he came up with the title or not, has a tendency to come up with these titles that harken back to yester year, like Strange Adventures, Woman of Tomorrow, currently he’s writing a book called Danger Street, that throws back to the Dingbats of Danger Street, forgotten characters by Jack Kirby. So he’s always finding these things and then taking a twist on them in some way. Or even Mr. Miracle, that is one of the darkest books he wrote, and it’s not really about miracles necessarily so much as the drudgery of day to day.

Here, I think it’s giving that sense, because you do have this adventure book. It is ironic, at the same time, because it’s playing against the actual content of the book. And Pete, I think you’re actually totally right as well in terms of, that’s what Supergirl is telling Ruthye to do. She’s like, “Think about tomorrow. Think about the next day. Don’t think about, this is vengeance on my mind and this is all I have right now, but what are the repercussions here? What’s going to happen next? What does that mean for me?” So great title, I think, when you really think about it.

Why don’t we turn to the topic that Pete has been champing at the bit to talk about the whole time? So we know that in some sense they’re going to be doing an adaptation of this book in the new DC Studios. Now the little asterisk there is they’ve talked about all these projects can change, so maybe this will happen, maybe not, but considering Tom King is part of the brain trust here at DC Studios, there’s a good chance they’re going to push forward in some way.

Wanted to read through real quick from Variety what they wrote about this movie, just so we have groundwork in terms of what they’re talking about. This is directly from the Variety article, where they announced the DC Studio stuff. “Based on King’s comic run of the same title,” leaving out Bilquis Evely, “from 2021 and 2022, Woman of Tomorrow features Superman’s cousin, Kara Zor-El, who, as Gunn explained, quote, “is a very different type of Supergirl.” And then this continues that quote. “We see the difference between Superman, who was sent to Earth and raised by loving parents from the time he’s an infant versus Supergirl, who was raised on a rock chip off of Krypton and watched everyone around her die and be killed in terrible ways for the first 14 years of her life. Gunn called this Supergirl quote, “Much more hardcore” though, King’s series also involves Krypto, the super dog.” That was Variety adding that stuff [inaudible 00:44:07].

Pete: Wow. Putting a little something on the end there. Geez.

Alex: Yes. Krypto’s pretty hardcore man. I’m just going to throw out there.

Justin: Definitely.

Alex: Pete, let’s finally get to it, because we’ve been talking about this book for a while and I know this is the main thing you wanted to talk about. What are your reservations with this movie? What are you concerned about and what are you potentially looking forward to?

Pete: Well, here’s the thing, a lot of times when you spring off of something that’s already a successful comic, there is kind of two ways you can go. You can be very faithful to the comic and bring that comic to life, or you can kind of use that as inspiration and make different choices, but trying to stay true a little bit to what the seed of the idea is. And what I’m worried about is something that I love and then pay money to go see on the big screen, I’m going to be like, “What? How was this related to this?”

Because the feel when you start reading this story, it’s so different, so unique, so beautiful and haunting in a lot of different ways, that if you’re not giving me that same feeling, I might be very upset by that. So I’m very upset that they are going to try to take something and put it in a two hour movie and focus on the fact that Supergirl’s hardcore now, and not do justice to this beautiful story.

I really want the same colors. This is so such an achievement in comics, anything less than that on screen is going to be a little disappointing. And I also think that the fact that it’s a movie instead of a TV show is a mistake, is a little bit of a misstep, because I feel like an episodic would be a really cool way to really kind of explore a lot of the tones in this book.

Alex: That was definitely something that struck me during this readthrough, knowing that they’re adapting it to a movie, and this is too Tom King and the team’s credit, is they lead into the singular issue nature of the comic book, each issue, maybe with the exceptions of the last two, but even those somewhat, feel like their own individual issue, their own individual adventure part of this bigger story. And they are really fleshed out stories. For anybody who doesn’t regularly read comic books but is listening to this, that’s a rarity. Most comics feel like, here’s the first five minutes and then here’s the next five minutes, and we’re kind of keep going there. So that’s the way it should be, but it doesn’t really happen that often.

I definitely felt that, Pete, I felt like they’re going to have to figure out a way, if this is a movie, to excise some of this information, figure out how to smooth over other stuff. Before I keep going here, though, Justin, it looks like you disagree.

Justin: I have an alternate take. I’m very excited. I think this is an excellent movie. Think about the structure of an Indiana Jones movie, and I think there’s a very much an adventure story where you start someplace, are given a quest, and you get to follow it on half a dozen different places where Indy has to accomplish tasks and move through to find the inevitable end. I think you could make a movie just like that for this, and each issue, or maybe they’d have to cut one or two or combine a couple, something like that, but each one becomes a big set piece where we are teaching this lesson to the Ruthye character, building toward the inevitable end.

I think there’s a really, especially with Tom King on the team, and James Gunn seemingly invested in this particular story to recommend it in the initial announcement, that they’re going to do a pretty faithful translation of this story, and I think really land on something that we can all get behind. I love it as a movie. With a TV show I feel like there’s a potential to bloat it out a little bit and really sit in these moments, when the characters, we learn about them over the course. There’s not a ton of change that needs to happen, we just need to see them go through things. And that’s perfectly tailored to a movie.

Alex: I think that’s a pretty fair point. There’s one issue in particular that we didn’t talk about earlier that I’m thinking of, where Ruthye narrates and says, “Okay, while we were on this space train traveling from place to pace, people would always approach Supergirl and say, “Hey, you’re Superman’s cousin, right? I’m going to kill you for something that Superman did.” I’m just going to tell you about this one thing rather than all the things, because there’s too many of them. It happened too many times. It’s kind of boring.”

I could see what you’re saying with the TV show, where they’d be like, here’s an entire episode of that happening, when Ruthye is right, we only need to see it once and we get it.

Justin: And I think in that issue, it’s a scene. It’s one scene where they’re on the train and then we’ve covered that idea and it plays into the larger story. The trick, I think, is going to be the tone. Because it’s a tone we don’t see in a lot of superhero movies where… Melancholy. We don’t get that. And I think there’s a potential here to turn this into John Wick, basically, where Krypto gets hurt and Supergirl and her sort of sidekick are on a quest to get revenge. And then that’s a different movie, and maybe that’s a good movie too, but it’s a misrepresentation of the comic book that we have here.

Alex: I will say, continuing this train of thought, I had a little light bulb go blink in my head while I was reading this book this time, where I realized, I think what they’re trying to do, this is really obvious, so I don’t know why it took me so long to figure this out, they’re trying to show us superhero stuff we’ve never seen before. This, being a movie, we have never seen two female characters traveling through space on a mission of revenge, ever. I can’t think of anything that that’s ever done in TV or movies, and certainly not in superhero movies. And thinking down the rest of the DC Studio’s slate, it does feel like that pretty much across the board, that this is the sort of movie we haven’t seen before. And we’ve seen a lot of superhero movies over the past decade.

Justin: A lot of similar superhero movies.

Alex: Exactly. So it feels like, to me, if they really can execute on this, they’re going to be giving us something different, which is exciting.

Justin: Well, this is something that we didn’t really talk about when we did our first launch of this podcast, but the chance that DC has here with all of these projects is to really upend. Marvel made the first big creative leap with all of their movies and established a very clean tone, but they’ve been stuck in that tone for a while. They’re trying to deliver the same thing in different ways, and everything’s getting a little bit complex and a little bit watered down, and I think there’s a huge vulnerability by leaning into what James Gunn. Seems like he wants to do is to get more creative again, innovate, lean into script writing first and find these great stories and bring them to screen in different ways.

I think this is a huge opportunity in that department to make a movie that is different, feels different, looks different than anything we’ve seen before.

Pete: I also think that Legends of Tomorrow did a great job of having some female leads be the focus in driving on these kind of space adventures. What I don’t want to lose from the comic is these epic panels that are just gorgeous and filled with amazing color, and these planets that look so different than anything we’ve ever seen. I want them to try to really channel that in the movie, and I won’t be disappointed.

Alex: Mentioning Legends is a very good call there. And I totally agree with you about the look. If this does end up looking like Marvel’s usual space mud at the end of the day, that is a huge fail in my mind.

One other thing I wanted to throw out to you guys about the movie, and this is complete speculation at this point, but do we think that Sasha Calle, who is playing Supergirl in the upcoming Flash movie, will come back to do this? And with the caveat, we haven’t seen The Flash other than a trailer.

Justin: And I think, no. I think that casting here… I think that her Supergirl is different than… Purposefully. It’s a multiversal flashpoint Supergirl, and I think that’s a hardened Supergirl, it seems, just based on the trailer. And I think for this, you need sort of the bright, innocent Supergirl, no matter how they cast it. I think that sort of core, that tone, needs to be in the casting choice.

Alex: I’m going to disagree with you and say, I think we’ve only heard really good things about Sasha Calle in the movie. This is in The Flash, it’s a flashpoint version of her that’s been imprisoned her entire life, so she is going to be harder. She is going to be hangrier. Granted… Did I say hangrier?

Justin: Yeah, she’s hungry.

Alex: She might be hungry.

Pete: I mean, there’s angry and then there’s angry, you know what I mean?

Alex: But if you can do that-

Justin: That’s be crazy, if they put she’s trying to get a lunch the whole movie, and it’s just like that.

Alex: Listen, this guy Krem has my lunch and I got to get my lunch back by the end of the movie.

Justin: He’s a lunch pirate. He’s a sandwich pirate.

Pete: Oh man, that’s the worst kind of pirate.

Alex: Those guys are the worst. I really don’t like those guys at all. No, I think if her performance is as good, I feel like, and this is just pure suspicion on my part, that might have been even the impetus for throwing this on the pile here, that you got Andres Muschietti, who directed The Flash, who they apparently love and love the work he’s doing. James Gunn has said that he would love to work with him again in some capacity. You’ve got Sasha Calle that, again, is getting good notices coming out of The Flash movie. So knowing they have a solid Supergirl, knowing they have a solid director that’s worked with her before, it’s really just up to the actress to moderate her performance in some way from Flash to this movie, and they could follow it forward. Totally different Supergirl because it’s a totally different universe, but you keep that connection there. I think that might be kind of interesting.

Justin: Could be. It could be.

Alex: All right, well, there we go. Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. If you can find it somewhere, definitely pick it up, otherwise get it digitally, at least for the moment.

Pete: Yeah, please do.

Alex: Phenomenal book. And for all of you out there, if you’d like to support our podcast and all the podcasts we do, patreon.com/comicbookclub. Also, we do a live show every Tuesday night at 7:00 PM to YouTube and Facebook. Come hang out, we would love to chat with you about this book and all the lovely DC books out there. Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, or the app of your choice to subscribe, listen, and follow the show @comicbooklive on Twitter, comic book club live on TikTok and Instagram, comicbookclublive.com for this podcast, and many more. Until next time, dad, you’re doing a great job.

Justin: Dad, you’re crushing it. I will say, the milk, which is prevalent in the fridge, is expired and we need to throw it away.

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Doctor Strange #1
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by Pasqual Ferry, Andy MacDonald and Ian Herring

Batman – One Bad Day: Ra’s Al Ghul #1
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Ivan Reis

The Neighbors #1
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jude Ellison S. Doyle
Art by Letizia Cadonici

Punisher #10
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Jesús Saiz & Paul Azaceta

Milestone 30th Anniversary Special #1
DC Comics
Written by Evan Narcisse, Nikolas Draper-Ivey, Stephanie Williams, Geoffrey Thorne
Art by Atagun Ilhan, Chriscross, Nikolas Draper-Ivey, Yasmín Flores Montañez, Sean Damien Hill

Dead Romans #1
Image Comics
Written by Fred Kennedy
Art by Nick Marinkov

She-Hulk #11
Marvel
Written by Rainbow Rowell
Art by Andrés Genolet

DC’s Legion of Bloom #1
DC Comics
Written by Ashley Allen, Kenny Porter, Zac Thompson, Calvin Kasulke, Julio Anta, Cavan Scott, Travis Moore, Dave Wielgosz
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Order & Outrage #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Jim Starlin
Art by Rags Morales

Wasp #3
Marvel
Written by Al Ewing
Art by Kasia Nie

Nightwing #102
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor, C.S. Pacat
Art by Travis Moore, Eduardo Pansica

Blue Book #2
Dark Horse
Written by James Tynion IV, Michael Avon Oeming
Art by Michael Avon Oeming

Undiscovered Country #24
Image Comics
Written by Scott Snyder & Charles Soule
Art by Giuseppe Camuncoli & Leonardo Marcello Grassi

The Amazing Spider-Man #22
Marvel
Written by Zeb Wells
Art by John Romita Jr.

Wonder Woman #797
DC Comics
Written by Becky Cloonan and Michael W. Conrad, Josie Campbell
Art by Amancay Naheulpan, Caitlyn Yarsky

Earthdivers #6
IDW
Written by Stephen Graham Jones
Art by Davide Gianfelice

Vanish #5
Image Comics
Written by Donny Cates
Art by Ryan Stegman

Swamp Thing: Green Hell #3
DC Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Doug Mahnke with Shawn Moll

Damn Them All #6
IDW
Written by Simon Spurrier
Art by Charlie Adlard

Torrent #2
Image Comics
Written by Marc Guggenheim
Art by Justin Greenwood

GCPD: The Blue Wall #6
DC Comics
Written by John Ridley
Art by Stefano Raffaele

Tower #2
A Wave Blue World
Written by Camrus Johnson & Kelsey Barnhart
Art by Chriscross

Inferno Girl Red #3
Image Comics
Written by Mat Groom
Art by Erica D’Urso

DCeased: War of the Undead Gods #7
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Trevor Hairsine and Luca Meyer

Immortal Sergeant #3
Image Comics
Written by Joe Kelly
Art by Ken Niimura

Superman #2
DC Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Jamal Campbell

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The sequel to the hit movie Shazam! is here, but how does Fury of the Gods stack up to the original? We’re offering up our spoiler filled review of the new movie, breaking down those end credits scenes and Easter eggs, and discussing how this will impact James Gunn’s upcoming DC Universe.

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On this week’s Marvel Studios news update, we’re talking about the rumored Mephisto special, the return of Scarlet Witch and more. Is Sacha Baron Cohen already at work on a Mephisto one-shot special for the MCU? Will Elizabeth Olsen return as Scarlet Witch, and if so, where — and when? Plus, Steven Yeun comments on his Thunderbolts role, and other hot, breaking news items.

Episode Rundown:

  • Rumor Patrol: Is Marvel working on a secret Mephisto special? https://www.cbr.com/rumor-sacha-baron-cohen-mephisto-disney-plus-special-mcu/
  • Elizabeth Olsen on Wanda returning to the MCU: https://screenrant.com/mcu-scarlet-witch-elizabeth-olsen-wants-redemption/
  • Steve Yeun Comments on Thunderbolts Role: https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/steven-yeun-marvel-thunderbolts-exclusive/
  • X-Men ’97 synopsis revealed: https://collider.com/x-men-97-series-synopsis/
  • A Marvel movie will shoot in DC later this year… But which one?
  • No Marvel on Disney+ in April
  • Marvel and Disney Take On Spoilers Reddit, Sue Google and Reddit: https://www.wsj.com/articles/marvel-takes-google-and-reddit-to-court-over-leaked-ant-man-script-914eadb

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Alexander Zalben
Welcome to MarvelVision, a podcast about Marvel, the MCU and right now all the Marvel news you can use. I’m Alex.

Justin Tyler
Justin, you’re gonna use this news. Oh, yeah. Daily life. Like when the cavemen first emerged from cave… Caves. The first thing they needed was fire. And Marvel news

Alexander Zalben
Exactly they were like give me updates about Thunderbolts. And that’s one of the things we’re gonna do here on the podcast. We have a bunch of news items that have broken over the course of the past week. Just to mention at the top if you’ve got a tip or a rumor or something you want us to cover. Email us at ComicBookClubLive@gmail.com

Justin Tyler
Hit us up at the news desk. Our fleet of young reporters will definitely dive in.

Alexander Zalben
Cubs, again tied back to the whole cave thing. That’s what we’re doing here. It’s a whole theme this episode. Let’s jump into it. This is a big one. This is very rumory. This comes from a bunch of different sources, but I saw this over on CBR, Comic Book Resources. Is Marvel working on a secret Mephisto special? There’s a couple of layers to this rumor here. The first part is that Sacha Baron Cohen is very heavily rumored to be playing Mephisto in Ironheart the spin off of Black Panther Wakanda Forever. I believe that was confirmed by Deadline, though not confirmed by Marvel. Of course they haven’t said anything about that casting however, the second part of this rumor is that Sacha Baron Cohen is currently reprising his role as Mephisto and shooting on the scene is set as Agatha: Coven of Chaos to do a Mephisto one shot special presentation a la the Werewolf by Night thing or the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special all focused on Mephisto What do you think about this because I have some reservations let’s say.

Justin Tyler
I think reservations– it’s very funny to me how much we were like Mephistos coming we’re gonna see him he’s a coming up, I guaranteed that’s what it is. Yeah. And now that now we have sort of weirdly too much Mephisto probably happening and it feels– now it feels weird. It feels like Ironheart and Mephisto feel like not part of the same sort of type of story potentially. But that’s where it is in a special from Mephisto actually fits more for me, but then it makes me feel like are they setting up in Mephisto for another larger role, perhaps in some sort of Spider-Man universe, where in fact Mephisto has had a large role in the comic books, undoing the marriage between he and Mary Jane. Now obviously they’re not married. But as we learned at the end of the last movie, they have no– she doesn’t know him. You’re gonna have something that a young Peter Parker might be willing to make a deal with a devil about? Because of his true love.

Alexander Zalben
That would be absolutely wild. Just to take a quick step back to the whole Ironheart that was

Justin Tyler
that was a lot it was a lot of stuff. That was a lot of stuff. But that’s what I’m excited about.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. I get it. The thing about Ironheart and obviously we don’t specifically know the plot, but we do know that Anthony Ramos I believe it’s Anthony Ramos is playing The Hood. And The Hood gets his demonic hood by making a deal with the devil. So it would make sense that Mephisto is in there in some way we have talked about before about how there’s a potential interesting clash between magic and science going on in the show, not what I’d expect by Ironheart. But I’m very curious to see it. Yeah, I think that holds me up a little bit. I totally believe that Sacha Baron Cohen would play Mephisto

Justin Tyler
It’s great casting. Let’s say that that’s a good look for them. I feel like he has the kind of charisma and comedic chops that like Robert Downey Jr. Brought to their original Tony Stark, you know,

Alexander Zalben
the thing that holds me up a little bit about this current stage of the rumor and I’m curious as somebody who does production to get your commentary on this is the idea that they’re shooting him Mephisto special on the set the same time they’re shooting Agatha: Coven of Chaos. That seems weird to me.

Justin Tyler
I mean, that is a little weird, unless it may that saying it that way makes me think that Mephisto will also appear in the Agatha show, which makes a lot of sense from which the devil point of view that’s a strong, obvious connect. As far as shooting something on the same set. That’s not that strange. It may be that act from a production point of view and maybe they had to stop down for for, for some sort of production reason, like one of the stars had to go do something else. So they had a couple of days on the stage. They were like, Okay, let’s slide the Mephisto thing in here, especially if it’s, if it’s a set, like if it’s a stage like that has the Volume on it, and it can be anything there’s no real loss there. Or if it’s something where like it gets a Volume you can just put anything back there. So there’s no real it’s just moving props in and out or set pieces. So from a production point of view, I don’t find that to be too strange. In fact, it may be some nice synergy if there’s any sort of similar storylines between Agatha and Mephisto.

Alexander Zalben
It also the– okay that makes a lot of sense. I get that. I do think that then question becomes about scheduling, something we’re gonna be talking about a little later in the podcast, because we still don’t know when any of these shows are coming out. Agatha: Coven of Chaos they’ve talked about maybe sometime next year. They’re saying Mephisto special might be sometime this year. If there is a specific tie with them. I can see some sort of like Mephistos Day Off type thing happening where you has been, what has– Rosencrantz and Guildenstern-ing his way through Agatha: Coven of Chaos, but then you need that to come first. So lots of question marks here seems potentially reasonable, but I guess we’ll see what happens.

Justin Tyler
Well, and then you get into like, and I know we’re going to talk about this in a little bit. But like the idea that like Marvel’s pulling back, like we’re not going to do as many things because Agatha: Coven of Chaos feels like the actual opposite of that, where it’s like, yeah, this is a spinoff from sort of a spin off about a character that we all love, but doesn’t relate to a lot of other modern marvel continuity. It’s like stepping out on one tree limb as opposed to connecting back to a larger piece. So the fact that the Agatha is still going forward, and we’re going to see that and Mephisto is potentially an extension of that even feels very strange. So I do that may may be it was originally a secondary thing, but they want to put Mephisto in first, because they’ve heard the fan outcry back from earlier on in in the MCU. And they’re like, well, this there seems to be an interest in this character. So let’s make this more of a centerpiece.

Alexander Zalben
Well, let’s talk about a character that everybody is interested in, which is the Scarlet Witch Elizabeth Olsen has been touring around with her new TV show, excuse me, I was about to say movie and getting a lot of questions, of course about Scarlet Witch. The first one, I’ll try to do my best Elizabeth Olsen impression here in terms of how she answered this. It’s not actually going to be an impression– but she was talking to Deadline and they asked her about returning as Wanda after a Multiverse of Madness. And she said, I don’t know ever how to answer these questions, except I don’t… I think I’ll be back. And there was that

Justin Tyler
You could hear her agent in her brain being like Don’t say you’re not coming back. Say you want to come back.

Alexander Zalben
And the weird thing about the quote was just be like except I it was hard to tell if she was like doing a fun bit of like, I don’t think I’ll be back. I don’t I think I’ll be like maybe she was doing a bit. Maybe she was saying something very weird. A little more definitive. She talked to ScreenRant about this as well when she was on a carpet. I think there’s down at South by Southwest. We can do anything with her now. I feel like we’ve done so much. Now we can really have fun. I feel like there’s a lot more humor to be had with her. She’s often the emotion of a story and I’m curious to see what we could explore and hopefully we can give her some redemption. So what do you think about that, given that she was flat as a pancake at the end of Multiverse of Madness? Do you want to see Scarlet Witch back? How do you want to see Scarlet Witch back? What’s your take on it?

Justin Tyler
Well, just if I were to decipher that quote directly, where it’s like she could be funny too, and we could redeem her a little bit. I’m like, that feels like an episode of Agatha. Like they, like somehow conjure her from beyond or something like that. And it’s like more of a comedic because like Agatha is, we think is a comedy, right? It’s at least comedic ly driven, rather than like another sort of Scarlet Witch from Dr. Strange style like this is a absolute monster trying to take over the world. So I do. I’ll tell you

Alexander Zalben
Not to interrupt, but if it’s Kathryn Hahn, Aubrey Plaza, Amy Poehler and a bunch of other cast members in a deathly serious drama? They’ve got a horribly wrong somewhere.

Justin Tyler
I mean, the never know what’s happening. So– So anyway, like I think her quote feels like she’s dancing around something very obvious that Scarlet Witch will be in an episode of Agatha being redeemed in a fun.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah. I do. I didn’t like Multiverse of Madness. I didn’t think it was good movie, but I do think there was a finality there in terms of what happens with the Scarlet Witch obviously, I’ve seen superhero movies before. Obviously, we’ve been reading comics for decades at this point. So I know there’s a billion ways of bringing her back. But I like the finality. I like the idea of letting characters and I don’t need to see Ironman again. He had a good ending at Avengers Endgame. I don’t necessarily need to see Captain America again. Same sort of thing. Like he had it an ending there. So like, I know that’s not the point of the comics. I know that’s antithetical to comics and superhero storytelling. But as a movie goer, and TV watcher in particular, I like finality I like ending because these are real human people that actually do get older. I don’t think we’re gonna have that here, though.

Justin Tyler
Well, but I also think like movies are, are finite. Storytelling. objects, like comic books and TV are about being on ending and episodic and always like, pulling you in for the next one. But movies aren’t like that, like movies are specifically about like, this is the end. And if you want to see another one, we’re going to make a sequel, but it’s going to be different and you have to pay again. So I agree with you. I think it’s harder to make like, well, now they’re back. Now they’re back. You can’t pull that trick over and over again, or else it starts to get a little like not interesting.

Alexander Zalben
I do like your idea to bring Scarlet Witch back as part of Agatha: Coven of Chaos. That’s a way that it doesn’t feel like we need to give her this whole emotional arc and bring finality to her story or anything. Just bring her in for a bit and that’s a good way of doing it because Elizabeth Olsen funny actress.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, and I also think that’s how they should touch on all the characters you mentioned like Captain America I think I don’t know if we want to see you. Maybe we see him in a flashback or we see him in like a vision or a dream or like anything like that. That’s a great way to keep their power is in the Marvel Universe moving forward because those characters inspire all of the current quote unquote Avengers that and heroes that we’re seeing, like, directly like the current Captain America is directly inspired by Steve Rogers, like iron heart is a direct descendant of Iron Man like it’s all right there. So like we can see them but I don’t think we want to inject them. Into the story as a main character again.

Alexander Zalben
Let’s move on to talk about a new character. This very mysterious character. Steven Yeun was also touring around for some new stuff I believe this is Beef, which is coming to Netflix that also was premiering at South by Southwest but he talked to Empire a little bit about his role in Thunderbolts all he said is I don’t know if it was explicitly on my bucket list in terms of joining the MCU it was more of the story getting to work with Jake Schreier, again, who directed Beef and what his intentions were the intentions of the particular character that they wanted me to play. Were very clear. And that’s what drew me to the film. Now I’ll just say this is probably Steven Yeun, this training on Walking Dead saying lots of things without actually saying anything coming through here which set him up very well for Marvel. But given these very vague comments, what do you think? What do you take away from Steven Yeun on Thunderbolts?

Justin Tyler
I mean, you’re right he he’s more like he’s very savvy about talking about it, but not talking about it. And I’m trying to figure out what character you could be talking about, like what do you what is that? Is it a it’s a villain is it like

Alexander Zalben
I, everybody keeps trying to be like, is he The Sentry in the Thunderbolts? Is he some other Marvel character they keep trying to game that out? I feel like he’s a guy? Probably is my guess? Like he’s an agent to Damage Control or whatever agency Thunderbolts and Valentina are working with. Maybe he’s working against them in some way. I’d love to see him in some sort of main role, but I get the sense now that people just kind of want to do Marvel movies. Basically, it’s all on William Jackson Harper in Quantumania, where he came in and I was like, oh, that’s that’s not a guy we’re gonna see again. All right. I really like him as an actor. He’s funny, but clearly, it’s like, cool Marvel paycheck. Let’s do this. So maybe it’s the same thing with Stephen Yeun. Though there has been talk about it potentially being a role that goes forward. I guess this is a roundabout way of saying that when they said– when he said this and when he said this quote, by my mind, they went to Martin Freeman in the Black Panther movies, and it feels like he could inhabit the same sort of role.

Justin Tyler
Interesting. I mean, like, The Sentry is a interesting character, but on top in a big movie with a ton of characters that need some explaining reign. Re-introduction to in the Thunderbolts movie to explain The Sentry is crazy, which is like a hero that was alive who has an internal alter ego that is also his arch enemy, who is like sort of losing his mind all the time, but also not and a great hero, but also his own villain, like it’s just like, it’s chaotic to have to do that. I see some other rumors here about him playing Amadeus Cho. That feels very strange and also feels like look an Asian character. Yeah, that’s being played by so that feels like–

Alexander Zalben
I don’t like that.

Justin Tyler
No, I agree. That feels like just bad thinking from the rumor mill trying to put that together. Because there’s, it’s not like you have to hire Steven Yeun video and to play an Asian character from the comics. It can be any character like Sentry–

Alexander Zalben
And Steven Yeun is– If people that have only seen him on Walking Dead or something like that? He’s phenomenal. He’s so good. Oh, my God.

Justin Tyler
Nope.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah. If you haven’t seen Nope, he has this monologue where he talks about an SNL sketch that is one of the best pieces of acting in the year. Also, just because we’re talking about it. I’ve seen the first five episodes Beef which is coming to Netflix. It’s him versus Ali Wong. Basically they have like a road rage incident, and it spins wildly out of control from there. And it just sort of the two of them in a actually very dramatic but sort of comedic way. It’s an A24 shows to give you the idea of like, yeah, doing some very dark stuff to each other. But he’s so good and so different than that as well. To shoebox him like we’re saying, like, Asian man Asian role is it’s racist, so maybe don’t do that.

Justin Tyler
100% I was surprised by so many people and articles written about it. I’m like, What are they doing?

Alexander Zalben
Yeah. So I don’t know. I could see him in some sort of generic agent role. I could see I don’t know if there’s any like classic Thunderbolts characters. Obviously. We’ve already had Baron Zemo. I think that’s where my mind would go immediately because I’d want them in a big role. Yeah, it also doesn’t seem like they’re doing classic comic book Thunderbolts. So I’m not sure what, whatever it is, I will say I was a little iffy about the Thunderbolts comment. The whole idea of the movie, I’m not quite sure how it was gonna come together. There’s a lot of characters with very similar powers on it. But hearing Steven Yeun say the intentions are clear and him being into it. He’s a dude who knows how to choose projects very wisely. So yeah, that made me a little more excited about Thunderbolts personally.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, and like the idea of a comic book movie coming at it from like, These people aren’t shining bright superheroes is really interesting undercutting the whole thing. Not in a the boys way where it’s purposefully they’re straight up evil. They have good intentions, but they’re sort of bad at it. He’s really interesting and has a ton of comedic possibilities. So like, and sort of Bad News Bears style superhero team that just can’t get it together until they maybe do at the end. A lot of fun opportunity there. So I’m looking forward to it especially with Steven Yeun involved.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, next up, there was a synopsis released for X-Men ’97 the animated series that has taken a very long time to get here again, something we will be talking about in a moment. This is via Collider, Storm and Wolverine try to continue the X-Men Magneto comes in and wants to step up for Charles Xavier, Sinister comes in to try to end the X-Men once and for all. My reaction is that tracks.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, well also, it’s like you love the X-Men. Well, here’s a complicated version of it. feels sort of weird to me, but also setting like X-Men ’97 I don’t know. It’s so esoteric. It’s so specific. who this is for like literally us, right?

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, I think so. I mean, listen, animation and this is not to slag off animation because I love animation, but animation has a smaller audience than live action. It just does. You know, you look at the amount of people that were specifically talking about MCU watched what if versus this other thing. So generally, I’m against playing for the crowd, you know, but that’s absolutely what this is. They know who’s gonna watch this. They’re playing it for them. Those folks are the people that are gonna get this deep X-Men continuity and be like ooh, Mr. Sinister come in. Okay, cool. Oh, this is Magneto in the Jim Lee uniform. All right. Let’s go let’s do this. I get all this stuff. So it’s fine.

Justin Tyler
But I’m curious like what’s the tone of this? Because to set something in 1997 like are we commenting on that is it is it actually set 97? Or is it like, just taking the vibe of that and moving it forward? Like, what are we going to do here? Because it could be like the super joke heavy. Like, ha This is ridiculous, almost like, it can’t be even like a Batman 66 But X-Men 97 Or it’s gonna be pretty straightforward. It’s just like, No, this is the sort of the type of X-Men that were starting in and just moving forward.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, I don’t know. I think I mean, they’re bringing back most of the original cast from X-Men The Animated Series, so I assume just totally they’re going to try to continue that as much as possible. So if you liked X-Men in the animated series, which an entire generation of superhero fans did, you’re probably gonna get more of that. I am always of the opinion, I’d love to see things, you know, twist and change and be tweaked a little bit and really challenge you. But, and this is not to be dismissive again, but I don’t think this is going to be a challenging show. This is going to be more X-Men The Animated Series, and that’s pretty much it.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, do we get to get Morph dying in the first episode?

Alexander Zalben
Oh, God, I hope so. Yeah, every episode Wolverine strokes a picture just like he doesn’t in the meme. And the other thing that’s interesting about setting it in 1997 is you’re not going to get any references to The Matrix because that hasn’t come out yet. You’re not going to get into references to Fight Club or anything like that. Those are all 99. So if they eventually get there, they can drop those refs.

Justin Tyler
That’s a great and specific point, maybe that a lot of the storyline will revolve around the production of Fight Club leading up to its eventual release.

Alexander Zalben
Oh, God, I hope so. All right. Speaking of production, this is even vaguer than Steven Yeun’s quotes. a Marvel movie will shoot in DC later this year. This was revealed by DCist.com, believe there was a speech by a senator that dropped this Marvel movie do is really steal our thunder here.

Justin Tyler
It’s very funny to hear a Marvel movie with shoot in DC it makes it sound like on a Batman set.

Alexander Zalben
I was so confused when I saw this headline. I was like shoot a DC what is going on here but yeah, what do you think? I mean, I think there’s some pretty obvious guesses in terms of what it could be but what’s your best guess for what’s going to shoot in DC later this year?

Justin Tyler
I mean, I gotta think we’re seeing some Captain American New World Order coming from from this. I think Thunderbolts was probably is not necessarily set in DC and probably specifically not wow, if you’re shooting on location. It’s probably a big splashy movie like cap. The articles I mentioned Armor Wars, the sort of the project that can’t really figure itself out. It seems like there was a series and then it was a movie and now I haven’t heard that much about it in the meantime.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, I think it’s definitely Captain America and this is potentially mildly getting into spoilers here. But apparently in the movie Harrison Ford, who was taken over as Thunderbolt Ross is now President of the United States in the movie? Captain America New World Order. He used to be the Captain America. He’s probably clashing with the US government in some way. Makes a lot of sense to set it in DC. So there you go. Head on down, check out the cherry blossoms and check out Sam Wilson beating the shit out of Harrison Ford. Here’s one– This isn’t even necessarily a news item. But I continue to be struck by this and I was curious to talk through this thing. But the every month we get the do on lists at work. They’re the things that are like Here’s what’s coming up on Netflix. Here’s what’s coming up on Hulu. Here’s what’s coming up on Disney plus. And once again, other than you get Marvel’s Devil– Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur and there’s one other thing that I’m forgetting about but there is no new Marvel show or movie that is coming out in Disney plus in April. And in fact the last time we saw a new MCU show and I’m not talking about the behind the scenes documentaries or clip shows or anything like that was the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special on November 24. So we know that they’re pulling back on stuff, but I gotta say this feels like a lot of pulling back at this point.

Justin Tyler
Well, yes, I agree. But I also think we were at a peak sort of Marvel glut. A few last year, mid mid last year and not to say that glut is necessarily a bad thing I love bring get it in my body. I love it. But I do think their announcement of like hey, we’re gonna pull back came when they’d already made that decision months. Like they said we’re pulling back in the middle of the pullback. So yeah, it feels like and I think the pullback will continue at its current pace. So I think we’re gonna this is now the new pace we’re getting we’re we’re not going to have Marvel stuff for you know, two three month blocks at a time.

Alexander Zalben
Well, but this is getting back to what exactly what we’re talking about with Coven of Chaos and this Mephisto special… At this point. They have stuff piling up. Like yes I understand we’re taking a break we’re gonna space stuff out, maybe they’re preparing for COVID-19 Part Two or something like that where they’re gonna have to shut down again but they’ve got Echo pretty much done right they’re just starting to shoot Daredevil Born Again they’ve been shooting Agatha Coven of Chaos. They’ve got Secret Invasion has been sitting there for months at this point, just ready to go or pretty much ready to go as far as we know. Plus, everything Ironheart as well. I’m sure there’s a bunch of other things we’re forgetting. So how does that space out then? Are they still are they actually going to pull back to like, Oh, we’re just gonna do two shows a year and Echo which we shot 13 years ago is going to come out 13 years after that, or how does this work?

Justin Tyler
Well, I think it’s more because it’s not about like withholding it from us. I think it’s like, Hey, wait,

Alexander Zalben
No, they’re witholding it from us. Give me!

Justin Tyler
But I do think that’s how it feels. And it’s worse. Like why are you holding on to this when you could just release it but they they’re working on them all more, I think is the idea. They’re like, Okay, wait, how does this all fit together? Do we need to rewrite a reshoot any of this so that it’s better because we started to have a problem where the quality isn’t high enough to meet the mark where people want to go see your Quantumanias. So, like, it’s not about them, just sitting it on a shelf and being like, we’ll release it when we’re good and ready. I think they’re really trying to look at the picture, fix some stuff and move forward more deliberately because competition is getting more intense. With James Gunn, taking over DC and they’ve seen some legit and surely terrifying box office hits when it comes to Quantumania.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, I think that’s absolutely accurate. And I do my– my most hopeful thing, which is probably very naive. There’s been so much talk about the VFX and actual reporting on it in terms of the VX effects artists complaining talking about Marvel is changing things last second. That’s bad press. It’s the first real bad press that Marvel has gotten in over a decade at this point. So again, this is very naive because I feel like the actual Hollywood way is like Oh, that’s really bad for the VFX artists Well anyway, moving on, but my hope would be exactly what you’re saying that that’s one of the things they’re working on. Like make sure we can give these VFX artists times to make this stuff actually not look like shit because it’s affecting the fan base. It’s affecting the critical reaction. It’s affecting everything.

Justin Tyler
Well, unlike Hollywood at all, like sort of production doesn’t run on like we have to make sure everyone feels good at the end of the day. It runs on Is everyone having the time and resources they need to do their jobs. So the product looks how it feels how it’s supposed to. So like, I agree with you, they don’t care how all the VFX artists are feeling at the end of their 18 hour shift. But when the product doesn’t look as good as it needs to, that’s when like, oh, okay, it seems like they really need us to take a second and make this look good because bad work is bad and it shows up the whole thing’s production. Is everyone has to be doing a good job. If your sound guy is not doing a good job, the movie is bad. And that’s top to bottom everything including obviously VFX.

Alexander Zalben
So last thing I’ll say about this and then we’ll move on to our last news item here. When do you think we’re actually going to get the do next Disney plus show?

Justin Tyler
I mean, it feels like we’re headed for Secret Invasion next is that you think that’s wrong?

Alexander Zalben
It’s either Secret Invasion or Loki Season Two. And my feeling is probably Loki season two, maybe May but more likely June, to give Guardians of the Galaxy space would be my guess?

Justin Tyler
Interesting because like it feels like Loki– Loki hasn’t been on the shelf at all and I know that’s their sort of biggest win probably. But the Secret Invasion is supposed to be good and not and I think we need that flavor more than we need Loki right now I think we need a new exciting thing as opposed to like, here’s another sequel that we’ve already teased and you already sort of know what’s going to happen and it’s more Kang, someone who you’re going to have a long relationship.

Alexander Zalben
We’ve got to get back to it exactly what we’re saying like that’s playing it safe, right? One of the only positive things that everybody agreed on with Ant Man and the Wasp Quantumania was the second post credit scene focusing on Loki was good and exciting. So to build directly on that and draw that line there. That’s hopefully if it’s good, even though they’ve changed a lot of behind the scenes staff at Loki sees it too. If it’s good, that is a win for them. That’s like okay, we can relax for a second.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, that’s fair and they need a win but I gotta think Secret Invasion has to come right on the heels of yes Loki.

Alexander Zalben
We’ll see if maybe we’re gonna get that Mephisto special first. Last but not least, this was an interesting thing that happened I probably not interesting for the people involved but it for those of you don’t know there’s a Marvel Studios spoiler Reddit that puts up sometimes their spoilers like big spoiler guys, here’s a new poster for Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, but also they post a lot of stuff from people who are leakers. They’re very careful actually about hey, this is a rumor. This is the level of trustworthy this particular rumor monger is so they’re very good about it like it was a good Reddit all told for Reddit. But somebody well you know sometimes the garbage the somebody put up I believe 60 pages of a transcript of Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, including audio files a month before the movie came out. Marvel and Disney got wind of that they’re suing Reddit, suing Google they wanted them to reveal the name of the person. The Marvel Studios Spoilers Reddit has temporarily not shut down but gone private in response to that until they learn how to deal with this. So lots of stuff going on there. What do you think about this? Do you think this is? Well go ahead, Justin.

Justin Tyler
Well, I think the the rumor rumor mills and like secrets for Marvel movies in any project. It’s good for the movies, mostly, like even if there are an actual leak. It still builds buzz it’s still getting us somewhere and it’s like, oh my god, what if Sacha Baron Cohen is playing the Mephisto. Oh my God he is. Okay. Oh, well. I knew that first like it’s good fan bait. But when it crosses over into materials being leaked, like audio, that’s where they’re like, hey, no, no, you can’t do that. That’s our product that you’re teasing out and that could de incentivize people from going to see the actual movie because like, I’ve already heard it, so I don’t need to see it. And that’s where they’re when the money gets hit. That’s where they’re going to come in. So it’s a it’s a strong pendulum swing between these two things, and they just crossed the line.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, totally agree with that. And I think Marvel Studios Spoilers Reddit, again, is dealing with it correctly by going private tried to deal with it. I hope they don’t I don’t know. I feel very conflicted about releasing the person’s name because that’s a level of letting Marvel and Disney go into this stuff.

Justin Tyler
Punish someone? Well and also getting your hands on audio like that. That’s like, that would be that’s someone like who has access to the cut of the movie and it’s like, you know, I don’t know who that would be like an assistant editor or someone who’s like, I’m just gonna sneak this out. It’s, it is someone who is like damaging their product. So that’s why they want to know but I gotta think they’ll scold the Reddit and then just be like, okay, don’t post stuff. Post your rumors don’t post stuff.

Alexander Zalben
Well I think on the flip side of that, I do think there’s something to be said for this whole spoiler culture, encouraging people who are even involved in a production to push this stuff out there and that’s bad. That’s being bad at your job. You shouldn’t be doing that stuff. There is a difference. To get back to something you were talking about earlier. In the podcast, between reporters from a legitimate outlet talking to people about VFX, making sure their identities are perfect– protected, vetting it, checking everything, talking to an editor and crafting a piece versus somebody being like, I’m pissed off about what’s going on with my job. I gotta post 60 pages of the script or 60 minutes of audio, or whatever it’s going to be. It’s hard for some people to make that division in their mind Yeah, but, you know, they really gotta just be professional at your job.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, that’s true, just like how we are professional at our podcasting.

Alexander Zalben
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Justin Tyler
So anyway, 100% guarantee Mephisto is in the next Spider Man.

Alexander Zalben
Absolutely. He’s gonna take that marriage.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of March 15, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Wolverine #31
Marvel
Written by Benjamin Percy
Art by Juan José Ryp

No/One #1
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins & Brian Buccellato
Art by Geraldo Borges

Superman Lost #1
DC Comics
Written by Priest
Art by Carlo Pagulayan

Hellcat #1
Marvel
Written by Christopher Cantwell
Art by Alex Lins

Star Trek #5
IDW
Written by Collin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing
Art by Ramon Rosanas & Erik Tamayo

Star Trek: Defiant #1
IDW
Written by Christopher Cantwell
Art by Ángel Unzueta

The Forged #1
Image Comics
Written by Greg Rucka, Eric Trautmann & Mike Henderson
Art by Mike Henderson

The X-Cellent #1
Marvel
Written by Peter Milligan
Art by Michael “Doc” Allred

Multiversity: Harley Screws Up The DCU #1
DC Comics
Written by Frank Tieri
Art by Logan Faerber

Art Brut #4
Image Comics
Written by W. Maxwell Prince
Art by Martín Morazzo

Secret Invasion #5
Marvel
Written by Ryan North
Art by Francesco Mobili

Lazarus Planet: Revenge of the Gods #1
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson, Becky Cloonan and Michael W. Conrad
Art by Cian Tormey, Alitha Martinez

Monarch #2
Image Comics
Written by Rodney Barnes
Art by Alex Lins

The Vampire Slayer #12
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art by Hannah Templer

Avengers Forever #15
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Aaron Kuder

Justice Society of America #3
DC Comics
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Mikel Janín and Jerry Ordway

Nocterra #12
Image Comics
Written by Scott Snyder
Art by Tony S. Daniel

BRZRKR #12
BOOM! Studios
Written by Keanu Reeves and Matt Kindt
Art by Ron Garney

Red Goblin #2
Marvel
Written by Alex Paknadel
Art by Jan Bazaldua

Danger Street #4
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Jorge Fornés

I Hate Fairyland #5
Image Comics
Written by Skottie Young
Art by Brett Bean

House of Slaughter #13
BOOM! Studios
Written by Tate Brombal
Art by Antonio Fuso

All Against All #4
Image Comics
Written by Alex Paknadel
Art by Caspar Wijngaard

Harrower #2
BOOM! Studios
Written by Justin Jordan
Art by Brahm Revel

TMNT: The Last Ronin – The Lost Years #2
IDW
Written by Kevin Eastman & Tom Waltz
Art by SL Gallant and Ben Bishop

Little Monsters #11
Image Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Dustin Nguyen

Behold, Behemoth #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Tate Brombal
Art by Nick Robles

Black Cloak #3
Image Comics
Written by Kelly Thompson
Art by Meredith McClaren

Spy Superb #3
Dark Horse Comics
By Matt Kindt

Hexware #4
Image Comics
Written by Tim Seeley
Art by Scotto Lavina

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On this week’s new live show podcast, we’re welcoming guest Benjamin Morse to chat all about Zoop’s “We Are Scarlet Twilight”!

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We’re kicking off semi-regular Marvel news updates with a breakdown of the big stories that have broken over the past week. That includes the return of Jon Bernthal as Punisher for Daredevil: Born Again, Bob Iger’s statements on pulling back on Marvel movie sequels, the debut of Kahhori in What If? Season 2, and much more.

Episode Rundown:

  • Jon Bernthal returning as The Punisher in Daredevil: Born Again: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/daredevil-born-again-casts-jon-bernthal-punisher-1235342229/
  • Meanwhile, Deborah Ann Woll and Elden Henson probably won’t be back
  • Sandrine Holt Cast as Vanessa Fisk in Daredevil: Born Again: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/daredevil-born-again-lands-director-1235346034/
  • Bob Iger says that while there’s “nothing inherently off” with Marvel, questions whether they need third and fourth movies, or turn to new characters: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/disney-ceo-bob-iger-newness-marvel-movies.html
  • Marvel Studios will introduce original characters, starting with a native Mohawk characters named Kahhori, in What If? Season 2: https://www.marvel.com/articles/tv-shows/what-if-kahhori-new-super-hero
  • Marvel up for five Oscars, including Best Visual Effects, Best Costume Design, Best Original Song, Best Hair and Makeup, and Best Supporting Actress
  • Quantumania box office levels out, but still might make less than Ant-Man 2
  • Theory Corner: When Kang asks is Ant-Man is the one with the hammer, does he mean Thor… Or Captain America?

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Episode Transcript

Alexander Zalben
Welcome to MarvelVision, a podcast about Marvel, the MCU and right now a bunch of news. I’m Alex.

Justin Tyler
I’m Justin. Isn’t Marvel news really just news to us?

Alexander Zalben
I think? I every morning I open up the old Gray Lady, aka…

Justin Tyler
Aunt May?

Alexander Zalben
Oh God, I gotta think it’s an old lady’s in Marvel. But thank you, Justin. I appreciate it. Anyway, we’re gonna be talking about a bunch of news topics here in the interim. Between when Marvel TV shows and movies come out lots of stuff always popping. We can chat about it. We’re gonna try to do more of these hopefully going forward if you like them.

Justin Tyler
We want to be your primary news source. We’ll cover mostly Marvel and a little bit of weather at the end.

Alexander Zalben
Exactly. And then I’m going to just throw it like one sharp hot political take somewhere in here but you’ll see if you pick up on it.

Justin Tyler
you see if you can spot it. Yeah, it’s gonna be hard to pick up.

Alexander Zalben
Let’s start with one of the big things that broke this week. This hasn’t been officially confirmed by Marvel, but as usual, it’s probably officially confirmed anyway. John Bernthal thaw is returning as The Punisher in Daredevil” Born A gain. Reportedly, I believe he’s gonna be in for as much as six episodes of the show, which is a big deal. There’s a lot of other stuff to talk about here in the show that we’ll get into a moment but I wanted to stop here. What do you think about this? What do you think about Jon Bernthal coming back?

Justin Tyler
I mean, first off love Jon Bernthal. Great actor I– We Own The City did you watch that on HBO was so good

Alexander Zalben
I heard that was really good.

Justin Tyler
And to see him back in the Punisher. He’s playing this sort of similarly orbiting characters over and over again, but like, I like him, I think he’s a great Punisher. It does. Two things come to mind. First off, of course, they had 18 episodes. They gotta cram in everything they got time to spare. No wonder there’s gonna be a Punisher nine part arc, but secondarily Disney+, not really a gun place. Punisher famously gun focused.

Alexander Zalben
I do wonder and this would be pretty exciting. If we’re really firmly putting the Punisher in the MCU every time he kills somebody if he says so that just happened. That’d be pretty good, right?

Justin Tyler
Like oh, put it on full like Disney Channel, kids show style. Yeah. Booyooyoung

Alexander Zalben
Punisher just like Kingpins right behind me right now, isn’t he?

Justin Tyler
Wowee wow wow.

Alexander Zalben
There’s a couple of things to address with that one when they added all of the Netflix shows on Disney Plus, they also added a whole PIN system parental discretion gave the gave it a Mature rating. Internationally. It also doesn’t matter. They have Star on there versus Hulu. And there’s all sorts of content that you wouldn’t necessarily describe as Disney content. So if they’re going for the international play, which frankly we’re gonna probably talk about later in this podcast when it comes to movies is the play that Disney is going for anyway. It matters more domestically than it does internationally. And–

Justin Tyler
Yeah.

Alexander Zalben
–while I don’t think it’s going to be as wildly violent, or I don’t know, there are a couple of I gotta back off what what I’m saying. There were a couple of very intense moments of violence in the Netflix shows, but they’re not the most violent shows seen in the world. They’re just violent for Marvel shows, right?

Justin Tyler
Yeah, I think so. But I still do think the Netflix shows are further across the line than what Disney would normally put on Disney Plus. So I think while I agree with you there is still online that they’re going to need to I imagine pull back a little bit from.

Alexander Zalben
But this gets into and I think we’re getting far afield here, but we talk about this all the time on Comic Book Club our live show and The Stack our review podcast, where the Punisher is sometimes an odd fit in the Marvel universe like it his own books he’s getting to do exactly what you’re saying he’s getting to be as violent as he deeds he’s getting to push forward, but then you pair it with superheroes or like now Punisher don’t kill and he’s like, I’m gonna kill and they’re like, don’t kill and then maybe he kills one guy or is like gets pulled back from killing The Vulture because you need The Vulture in other stories or whatever. So I do wonder if we’re going to have that. Even if Jon Bernthal as an actor is gonna give 1,000% If we’re gonna get 50% of that Punisher in the show to your point.

Justin Tyler
Well, I also think the debate about the Punisher always goes to he’s the guy that kills and I feel like the character was created to sort of occupy that middle ground of vigilante that goes too far so that he is technically fighting villains, but he’s trying to hurt them, kill them, whatever. And so heroes have to pull back on another hero. Interesting like take in a gray area for comic books when before there was that gray area, but then he fast forward that to now there are a ton of ways to do this without it being like him just sniping people from a distance. Like we don’t need to do that. It could just be like, he gets too violent. He goes too far his tactics are wrong. And they could have because Daredevil– The problem is Daredevil is pushing that too. So those two characters are occupying sort of a similar vigilante thing like they’re on the edge they could go over the edge any moment. So like, how do you differentiate the Punisher that’s why it lands on like, well, he straight up kills people.

Alexander Zalben
Right and that’s where you get that great. One of the best things on the Daredevil show in season two, the first half that they write out of the comics for Punisher has Daredevil chained to the chimney it gives him the whole we’re one bad day different from each other speech. That’s great. That gets to the heart of it. I will say I am very tired of the whole should vigilantes kill, we have run it out. I’m cautiously hopeful they’re gonna hit it in a different way. I’m cautiously hopeful they’re gonna use the Punisher a different way. Like I mentioned with 1,000% of like you mentioned with John Bernthal . It’s kind of a no brainer to bring it back. Right. Like he is your hot actor right now. He does a phenomenal–

Justin Tyler
In more ways than one, Alex.

Alexander Zalben
Hubba, hubba. Have you seen American Gigolo, awooga awooga. He also loves the Punisher like we know this without calling any names but we have a friend who works with him or worked with him on the Punisher. And he like is obsessed with comics and thinks about it and wants to get it right for the fans and thinks about what the right thing is. So if you’re gonna bring somebody back and you’re gonna put the Punisher there, it makes total sense to have John Bernthal in there. On the other hand–

Justin Tyler
Yeah, when you have 18 episodes it’s a ton of real estate. Especially what we’re going to talk about later may be about the Marvel maybe pulling back a little bit. The fact that this show snuck in an 18 episode order, is wild. I t’s gonna feel like so much bigger.

Alexander Zalben
I’m still suspicious of that. To be honest, this is based on no information whatsoever. But my guess here is they’re doing essentially what Netflix does with animation, which is, they’re like great news. We picked you up for 18 episodes for this season, so that we can pay you with one contract. Oh, by the way, we’re gonna release this in three parts of six episodes each over the course of two years. And essentially sell them as three seasons. So I–

Justin Tyler
Sort of your Gabby’s dollhouse model.

Alexander Zalben
Exactly. That’s how they talked about it in the room, I’m sure.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, definitely. That’s how I see it.

Alexander Zalben
They’re not gonna do 18 weeks of Daredevil. That doesn’t make any sense. They’re gonna break it up in different parts. I’m sure.

Justin Tyler
You could do it Andor style you do nine and nine Andor 12 and is working on this back 12. And that’s perfectly exciting and fun.

Alexander Zalben
Exactly. On the other hand, and I guess it’s too bad that our primary defender of these two characters Pete is not on this episode of the podcast, but also dropped to this Hollywood Reporter article where they might have explained the John Bernthal was coming back the casually mentioned that most likely Deborah Ann Woll and Elden Henson will not be back as Karen and Foggy respectively. They didn’t say that definitively, but they believe they are not going to be back. What do you think about this?

Justin Tyler
Well, it makes a lot of sense. If we are sticking with this Daredevil-She Hulk love thing like having Karen Page in there feels weird. And Foggy’s future is looking foggy. I would say

Alexander Zalben
I’m gonna be straight up rude. They seem like very nice people. They were the vestigial limb of that show. They were. Constantly they’d be like, Daredevil would be in these really intense situations that they’d cut over to them but they– Karen would be like, I’m really trying to make it as a newspaper person, but I’m not gonna write any articles or I’m gonna work out one article they’re like, please turn in some articles and she’s like, Nope, I’m working on this one article and that’s it. And then Elden would come in– Foggy would come in and be like make a joke about avocados and he always seemed very– Pete’s gonna listen to this and he’s gonna scream at me — but he always seemed so uncomfortable in that role, like it just not fit for him. I don’t mind Foggy as a character as a foil to Daredevil, but there was nothing there.

Justin Tyler
Well, I think they, they it sort of became like a workplace comedy energy and the show just wasn’t interested in that. And like modern TV doesn’t really mix workplace comedy with drama in the way that the superhero show is gonna want to. So it that makes total sense, like and if we follow the Karen Page arc from the comics, that’s horrifying, and I feel like either they have to do that or not.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, the only one qualm that I have even though Daredevil completely the show completely misused them. When they brought Karen over to The Punisher which mind you I always forget about this. The first season of The Punisher was great, like legitimately a great show. Second season, not so much. But the chemistry between Deborah Ann Woll and John Bernthal… A million times better than the chemistry retreat Deborah Ann Woll and Charlie Cox so not getting to see that again is a little bit of a bummer but it’s okay we have the other episodes in our past and I think we’re gonna be all good. There is another recast though that set off a lot of rumors that I think are entirely unnecessary. So Sandrine Holt, who I believe she was on Better Call Saul, if I remember correctly has been cast as Vanessa Fisk in Daredevil: Born Again, Ayelet Zurer played her on the Netflix show. You’re gonna

Justin Tyler
I have Sandrine on House of Cards, Mr. Robot and Homeland.

Alexander Zalben
Okay, there we go. Well, she’s also going to be working with this actually, it was also buried at a THR article that was about Michael Cuesta, who’s previously directed on Dexter and Homeland is going to be directing episodes of the show. This set off a lot of speculation about — opp, this is a different universe they got a different Vanessa Fisk it’s all that connected to the previous show. That’s ridiculous.

Justin Tyler
That’s ridiculous. But you’re right. She’s also on Better Call Saul playing Cheryl Hamlin, which I thought that was great. But yes, I think that is crazy. That’s a recasting does that mean we shifted the show to another universe?

Alexander Zalben
Well, that’s if you look back at it. Iron Man and Iron Man 2 are two entirely different universes because there’s different Rhodeys.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, that’s 100%. Right. Yeah. Just think of how we’d be living if we were in the Iron Man or a rich universe. Yes.

Alexander Zalben
So I think that’s kind of a ridiculous rumor. Yes, they’re gonna recast people. I’m still of the opinion. And I’ve said this several times here on the podcast that it’s going to be like a soft reboot where they’re not going to conflict necessarily anything that happened before, but they’re also not going to reference it like nobody’s going to be like Hey, weren’t you avocados at law and Matt is gonna be like, I don’t know what you’re talking about. That’s crazy.

Justin Tyler
I agree. They won’t do that specific thing, but it’s also strange because it does feel like with the Punisher being in there, they’re gonna hit a lot of the same beats, at least like from a character point of view. So it’s like, what are you going to be doing again? And if you’re doing things, similar things, it’s going to be hard to not reference what happened before.

Alexander Zalben
Right or reshoot. I mean, it’s a classic going back to the origin thing, so they’re not gonna use footage from the Netflix shows. I don’t think but they’re gonna reshoot it in a different way or work in a different way. So yeah, I don’t know. On the other hand, there are a lot of stories about Daredevil. And they’re all different. And they all reference the same events, but hit it a different way. So, we’ll see.

Justin Tyler
And what do you think about the Echo show? How does that fit in here? Because that’s been pushed back, right?

Alexander Zalben
I mean, that gets into the next topic, we’re going to talk about a little bit but maybe it works in some way and maybe they’re gonna have to reshoot things because apparently that’s been pushed back at the very least until 2024. So. It was clearly supposed to come first. It was supposed to come pretty soon after Hawkeye but whether you believe that there are a lot of problems in actually getting the show together, or if they’re just shifted around the order, whatever it is, this is sort of classic, classic Marvel where they’re like, oop, we move this thing around. Now we’re gonna have to change things and tweak things and change the end credit scenes and figure it out. The last thing I wanted to say before we move on to our next topic, though, is that the show is starting to shoot in New York. This coming week for a very long time. So we’ll probably go to set right? We’ll hang out?

Justin Tyler
Yeah. 100% will be there. We’re New Yorkers so we’re walking through movies all the time.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, there’ll be look forward to our big scene where we say, Hey, I’m walking here as we walk through the show.

Justin Tyler
Got to have that to New York, New York shoot.

Alexander Zalben
As you referenced. This was another big topic that came out this week. I know we were all very excited for the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media and Telecom Conference, one of the biggest entertainment events of the year.

Justin Tyler
I was– I camped out outside, it was sick dude. Yeah, it was awesome.

Alexander Zalben
I really want to do that sometimes dressed in costume as my favorite Morgan Stanley exec.

Justin Tyler
Yeah. Which is just work clothes for a lot of people. Yeah, I crowd surfed in for a lot of it. Don’t take the brown acid, but I did anyway.

Alexander Zalben
So Bob Iger who is now again and temporarily, again, in charge of Disney gave some statements about a lot of different things at this conference. But the big one for us is he talked about Marvel movies and I’m just going to read off his quotes, which were shared by CNBC: “Sequels typically worked well for us. Do you need a third and fourth, for instance? Or is it time to turn to other characters? There’s nothing in any way inherently off in terms of the Marvel brand. I think we just have to look at what characters and stories we’re mining. And you look at the trajectory of Marvel over the next five years, you’ll see a lot of newness. We’re going to turn back to the Avengers franchise but with a whole different set of Avengers.” So how does this strike you? There’s a lot of stuff to take away here from this, but what are your big takeaways, Justin?

Justin Tyler
I mean, I feel like I get why he’s saying. There’s nothing wrong. Nothing wrong here. Nothing wrong here. That’s a classic thing to say. And I don’t think there’s inherently like a bunch of detrimental problems that are going to really ruin everything. I just think they need to take some more time to make the stuff that’s important to them and by transitive property us desperately important to us. And that’s when I feel like statements like oh, we just need to look at the stories we’re mining. It’s like now it’s not about the stories or the characters. It’s about your choices when you make them.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, that’s… I don’t know I don’t want to like pick it apart piece by piece but it’s a weird statement coming from a guy who immediately, his first call after he took over at CEO again, is like Hey, real quick. We’re gonna lay off 7000 people but good news. We’re doing Frozen 3 and Toy Story 5. And then here, he’s like, I don’t know if we need a Thor 3 at a Thor 4 Captain America 3 or a Captain America 4 all of these different things. They seem like contradictory statements on the surface. I do understand the essence of what he’s talking about. But I think what he’s actually bouncing around is the recent slate of Marvel movies have not performed in the way that they want them to. So like you’re saying it’s not about changing up the characters. It is about making sure the stories are good, and you’re telling them for a reason versus just greenlighting sequels nonstop, right?

Justin Tyler
Well, I also think they they also don’t have access to a lot of their older characters anymore from a– from the story point of view from a contractual point of view. I think, so. Like I think a lot of– Buried in this statement is like hey, we’re doing more stuff, but it’s going to be a lot of stuff that you haven’t really seen before. Like, this is probably the last Guardians that was probably the last Ant-Man especially given how I think we’re gonna move into like, like the Fantastic Four, get edging toward X-Men like all this stuff is where it’s going. And there’s a lot of excitement to be had there. But he can’t say that yet. I don’t think.

Alexander Zalben
The– I also have two very conflicting feelings about this. One is… We’ve been raised on comic books. So of course I want to see these characters forever. You know, I want to see a Shang-Chi two, three, four, five you know, see his continuing adventures until Simu Liu is like, I physically can’t do this anymore. Please leave me alone. But on the other hand, every Marvel movie is a sequel to the previous Marvel movie, you know

Justin Tyler
That’s exactly right. Yeah.

Alexander Zalben
So they’re gonna keep going regardless, even if you don’t get Shang-Chi 56, Shang-Chi is still going to be in the movies some way even though Captain America is technically old or on the moon or dead or whatever’s going on with them. You can bring back Chris Evans at any point for anything and he could pop up in a movie and it would be like whoa, what’s going on here? Because it’s fine. So they have ways of working this stuff without selling it specifically on that title character while still telling the story they want to tell.

Justin Tyler
Well, it’s interesting to me like just one more thing on this like, from a story point of view, like they’re bringing back the Avengers is it going to be like in the comics where it’s like, here’s your card, you’re an Avenger now. Or is it going to be another like, Oops, we’re all fighting the same fight. Why don’t we work together because there’s a problem coming? Because it’s I think it’s hard to pull the same rabbit out of the hat that they did in the first couple of Phases, bringing together the Avengers. So what’s the move here?

Alexander Zalben
I think it’s probably going to be the latter, more Avengers is a capsule term for this is the movie where we bring everybody together and they’re all working together. Not necessarily as a formal team per se, though there might be teams. I mean, you could see like Sam Wilson, as the new Captain America bringing together a team. We’re getting the Thunderbolts so they’re gonna be a team so there’s–

Justin Tyler
They will have to be a team. But I just like if it’s fighting Kang then I guess it could be like, Hey, we’re all trapped in this pocket universe or how do it so we’re Avengers? Yeah, but it’s just like, you can’t go it’s part of what we all sort of grew into over the course of MCU is Tony Stark building the infrastructure of the Avengers. And I think that was a thing that we liked in watching the progression of the Avengers movies. And I don’t think they could do that again. So I’m curious how that–

Alexander Zalben
Well, but here’s the other thing is… We basically got one Avengers movie, right? Like the first Avengers movie is all about them putting together the team leading into that iconic spin around shot at the end. The second movie Age of Ultron is the one where they’re actually like, we’re the Avengers. We have a headquarters. We work together. We’ve done all of these missions that you haven’t seen that happened off screen, and we’re all gonna fight together and that’s great. And then in between that you have after that you have Civil War where they break apart and they’re no longer Avengers, and then Avengers Infinity War and Endgame are exactly what we’re saying. It’s these disparate elements all coming together to fight this threat in both of those movies. But they’re never really like, we’re a team in exactly the same way.

Justin Tyler
Well, but I think that what you just described, you need that, hey, let’s be a team. Let’s come together. Let’s be a team. We’re a team. Now we’re breaking apart because we had a disagreement, like that dramatic action, I think led to some of the best moments in the whole franchise. So like if it’s going to be like accidental bumped into meet cute Avengers. We need some infrastructure there to carry us through like the next five movies.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, you’re definitely right about that. Having a series of scenes where it’s all strangers getting themselves caught up to speed up what a multiverse is, is going to be potentially the most boring thing of all time.

Justin Tyler
Honestly, I’m ready for a Doctor Strange snap, like okay, you all know what the multiverse is when I just snap my fingers like, snap every couple of movies. Let’s get through the exposition.

Alexander Zalben
It’s definitely my big takeaway from the first couple of movies. Here’s another one. This is some exciting news. I thought. Marvel Studios is going to introduce original characters, characters not based on the comic books, aside from like S.H.I.E.L.D. characters, but actual superheroes and the first one they announced it apparently this is not going to be last is for What If? Season Two. It is a character called Kahhori who is the idea is that I’m definitely going to mispronounce several things in here, so I apologize. But this episode in Season two is going to ask what happens if the Tesseract fell to earth and landed in the sovereign Haudenosaunee Confederacy before the colonization of America. This is from an article on Marvel by the way, so it’s the Tesseract takes on new life and a new mythology transforming a lake into a gateway to the stars leading Kahhori, a young Mohawk woman on a quest to discover her power. And one of the other neat things about this is they worked very heavily with the Mohawk Nation to make sure to craft this character, to craft this arc, to craft the world that she lives in. And I believe the episode is also going to be broadcast in Mohawk with subtitles, presumably. I think this is great. I’m very excited about this news

Justin Tyler
Agreed. This is awesome. I think it’s a great doing What If, new What If stories is a great way to do it with new characters, and lets us start to maybe take these characters and put them back into the comics, to bring them to the comics that is. And this particular story is really interesting to me. It feels a little bit like the the premise of Prey brought into a Marvel take which I think is a very cool

Alexander Zalben
Well that said I think they were developing… They’ve been working on What If? Season Two for a while. So yeah, I agree with you. I think we’re gonna see a lot of characters we know like it’s gonna be a classic Poochie situation without using that derogatorily where like she goes through the multiverse and sees a bunch of characters that were familiar with, bumps into Captain Carter, etc. But it’s neat. It’s exciting. I will say by last note on this as I originally saw the news, just being like new episode of What If is going to be what if the Tesseract fell to earth and landed in the sovereign nation Haudenosaunee Confederacy before the colonization of America? And I was like, wow, that’s a long title. But so it’s real though.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, it’s real, guys. It’s real. That’s what we button up every episode with. Guys: it’s real.

Alexander Zalben
Yes. A couple of quick other things to mention here this weekend as we’re taping the Oscars are coming up. Marvel is up for five Oscars all for Black Panther Wakanda Forever for Best Visual Effects, Best Costume Design, Best Original Song, Best Hair and Makeup and Best Supporting Actress as our Oscar prognosticator, Justin, what is your official take here that you’re willing to stake your reputation on? Take it away.

Justin Tyler
I think you got costume design is a big hit. They’ll get that. Visual effects. I feel like Avatar is gonna go for that one. Original song potentially? I think RRR Naatu, Naatu many. People are really rising for that. Hair and makeup. I think that could be a Marvel could take that. The big one though Best Supporting Actress. I mean. Her performances. Unbelievable. It’s a tough category and in the other award ceremonies that we’ve seen lately like the SAG Awards, the DGA awards, all the other sort of Guild Award shows. I don’t believe– it’s been a mixed bag about who’s won that so. It could be because it Jamie Lee Curtis is up here right and a couple other people so like — and Jamie Lee Curtis has won the DGA. I think she won the– so it’s like– it’s a it’s a mixed bag. But her performance is unbelievable and I think she could easily take it.

Alexander Zalben
I agree and my very callous calculated way of looking at this beyond the fact that she gave have a phenomenal performance is I think people might see it as a way of awarding or honoring Chadwick Boseman, at the same time, so… I don’t know just sort of to get into the head of the Oscar voter potentially. But it would be great like you said, because she deserves it because she tears up the screen every scene that she’s in.

Justin Tyler
So intense.

Alexander Zalben
–but it would also be the first acting win for Marvel which would be a big deal for them. So I guess we’ll see what happens. We mentioned earlier the Quantumania box office. We’re still in the middle of the weekend as we’re taping this we don’t know exactly how it’s going to do this weekend, but woof! Is I guess my take?

Justin Tyler
Yeah, not great. Not great for multiple reasons because it may not beat Ant-Man 2 for box office.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, depending on how you look at it. I broke out a couple of figures and I was looking like we’re talking about at the international box office. And global box office currently as of today is I believe $423 million. You’re looking for to break a billion on every single one of these superhero movies. It’s been tough since the pandemic and hasn’t necessarily happened as consistently. But you got to go back to like Eternals did 401 million total, Shang-hi did 432, Black Widow did 379. And those were like beginning pandemic movies. People were much more scared to go out into movie theaters. And then before that you got to go all the way back to Phase 1 to find something comparable when Cap 1 made 370 million global and Thor made 449 million global. So… This is not good. And I think to tie back into the earlier thing ties exactly to why Bob Iger was saying the things that he was saying.

Justin Tyler
Yeah, I mean, especially like you can say like it’s post pandemic all that but like Top Gun just blew, and Avatar just blew these numbers out of the water and we’re back to pre-pandemic levels. So it’s like, it is a big problem, especially when I’m sure they had their eyes on a billion global when they were making this movie and coming out with it. They painted as the next big move in Phase Five, the first movie in Phase Five. It’s got a bunch of implications for the movie. It’s a threequel for Ant-Man a franchise it was gaining strength over the course of its run. So it is bad. It is bad.

Alexander Zalben
Yeah, I don’t think we’re gonna see an Ant-Man 4 I gotta be honest with you.

Justin Tyler
Agree. I don’t think we will. But I think this is– Going back to Bob Iger’s statement. This is making Marvel look at their process at the same time you have DC looking at they’re changing up their whole thing. So it’s actually probably a good moment for them to restructure, think back, trim some stuff, put more time into writing the stories before you’re already making the dude with holes.

Alexander Zalben
Marvel made its best stuff when it was thinking like the underdog. Now it’s thinking like the winner and if we can get it back to a place where it is the underdog, they gotta fight a little harder and be a little scrappier. I just think they’re gonna be better for it to your point. Last thing I wanted to end with I am always very iffy about theories, but I thought there was a fun theory that I saw banging around the internet that I did like quite a bit. So if you remember in Ant-Man The Wasp: Quantumania, there’s a scene where Ant-Man after he’s been imprisoned, Kang comes up to him and doesn’t remember who Ant-Man as he’s like, didn’t Did I kill you?, Ant-Man’s very confused. And then he says, Are you the one with a hammer? And he’s like, No, that’s Thor. What are you talking about? So what people were pointing out is it’s pretty weird that Kang who is an observant guy who’s a conquerer who knows a lot of stuff, would be like, Are you the long blond haired fellow who’s very buff with the hammer? That doesn’t make any sense. But what might make sense is if it was Captain America from the end of Endgame, when Captain America is wearing essentially an Ant-Man suit, and holding Thor’s hammer, goes into the Quantum Realm to return the Infinity Stones. That potentially is the point when Kang found him. So I don’t know. You would have to split off the multiverse there because obviously Captain America was successful, he returned the Infinity Stones he got together with Peggy. But again, I thought that was a fun theory. I don’t know if they were thinking about that when they made the movie, but I liked it as a retcon explanation.

Justin Tyler
I think that’s really great. I would argue I would guess they were not thinking about that at all. I think they were making like a joke that seemed cool. For him to make. Didn’t I kill you? Did I kill you? Like it’s a nice fun, badass thing to say. But I also think to take it more seriously. You could see it as a real launching point into just like, the like there’s a multiverse where Ant-Man has the Thor’s hammer or where Iron Man who also looks a little bit like Ant-Man has Thor’s hammer or where, for instance, referencing the comics, Tony Stark is in the Ant-Man armor, and he somehow gets the hammer. So the multiverse anything can happen as we’re all going to learn over and over again for the next decade.

Alexander Zalben
Cool. Well, listen, that is it for our news update for this week. Thank you so much for tuning in. If you’d like to support this podcast and all the podcasts we do patreon.com/comicbookclub. Also we do a live show every Tuesday night at 7pm to Facebook and YouTube come hang out. We love to chat with you about Marvel. Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or the app of your choice to subscribe listen and follow the show. At marvelvisionpod on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook comicbookclublive.com for this podcast and many more. Until next time, stay marvelous

Justin Tyler
Turning to weather we’ve got some great clouds and sun coming into the Marvel Phase Five

Alexander Zalben
Ooh, clouds and sun.

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On this episode of our DCU podcast, we’re flashing back to 2019 for a rewatch (or watch) of Shazam! How does Billy Batson’s family flick hold up, four years later? How did this movie traumatize one of our host’s children? And what does it all mean for Shazam: Fury of the Gods — not to mention both the previous DCEU, and James Gunn’s upcoming DC Studios Universe. We discuss that, break down scenes, and talk a bit about the comic book origins of the movie on this week’s episode.

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Episode Transcript

Alex: Welcome to Sons Of A Gunn. A podcast all about the DC Universe. I’m Alex Gunn.

Justin: I’m Justin Gunn.

Pete: And I’m Pete Gunn.

Alex: Also, last name Gunn. And again, for legal reasons, we can’t mention who our father is, but I think you know who it is.

Justin: You get what we’re doing. We’re triplets from a father that we can’t say the name of wink Gunn.

Alex: But we are actually going back in time here. We are doing a rewatch podcast for Shazam! Hey, original release date, April 5th, 2019, directed by David F. Sandberg, screenplay by Henry Gayden, story by Henry Gayden and Darren Lemke. The reason we’re talking about this is because-

Pete: Before the pandemic.

Alex: … leading into James Gunn’s new DC Studios universe. We still have a couple of movies that are going to be coming out that may or may not tie it in some way. One that is coming out next week is Shazam! Fury of the Gods.

Pete: Oh, okay.

Justin: Yes.

Pete: So you wanted to watch this first and make sure that a lot of this-

Justin: It makes a lot of sense.

Alex: Exactly. Yes. So we are watching this first or rewatching this first. Here’s what I think we should do, just to start it all off, let’s talk about our experiences and thoughts about Shazam. I definitely had some very specific experiences with it that we’ll get to in a second.

Justin: Oh, interesting.

Alex: Yeah. I don’t know. I’ll just tease that right here. But Justin, this was actually your first time watching it going into this, right?

Justin: Yes. This rewatch was a watch for your guy, JT. [inaudible 00:01:44], JT.

Pete: Well, welcome to the world, buddy.

Justin: Welcome to Shazam. And I have thought that when I said the word Shazam, lightning would strike through my ceiling and into me, but it did not. So heartbreaking.

Pete: You do have lights going behind you there. I was looking for them to flicker at least when you said it.

Justin: That’s me too, believe me. I still believe. So I haven’t watched the movie before watching it for this, and I liked some of it more than I thought I would. So it was definitely a positive viewing experience.

Alex: And Pete, I think you’re a pretty big fan of this, right? Am I wrong?

Pete: Well, here’s the thing, the first two times I watched it, I had a great time. This time, not as much, but I still think the ending of it really… I feel like it nails the ending in a way that makes you walking away with a better feeling. Because while it was happening, I was like, “Huh, man, I don’t remember this dragging as much or feeling as weird.” And then by the end, it still gets me a little bit when the mom’s crying, I’m crying, and then I feel like it nails the landing a little bit.

Alex: Just out of curiosity, and by the way, for anybody listening, we’re going to get into the actual plot of the movie in a second, but Pete, did you see it the first two times in theaters and this time watching it at home or-

Pete: Yes. Yeah.

Alex: Okay. So maybe that was the difference there potentially. For me, I saw it in 2019. It was one of the first big superhero movies that I took my kids to see and I-

Pete: Oh yeah, the whole [inaudible 00:03:17]-

Alex: … asked online beforehand who are the people who’s seen it-

Pete: Well, the online is never going to lie to you. People online are always going to be [inaudible 00:03:23] your trust down.

Alex: No, but here’s the thing, is what I asked-

Justin: Yeah. Trust anything they say.

Alex: … people, they’re like, “Oh, wink, wink.” No. I asked my film reviewer friends who had seen in screenings, and I was like-

Pete: Don’t trust them.

Alex: … it is for kids. And across the board when everybody said is they’re like, “Oh, it’s like a great ’80s family movie.” That’s what it’s like.

Pete: Horror movie.

Alex: It’s like a great ’80s family movie. There’s some little scary parts, but nothing more scary than you’d expect from a family movie. I was like, “Okay. So that sounds good.” Took my kids and-

Pete: Starts pretty dark.

Alex: Starts pretty dark with the first scene being a car crash caused by a small child who was rejected by a wizard who watches his father, John Glover, basically almost bleeding to death on the ground after the car crash. So I was like, “Ooh, this is rough.” And I remember very distinctly sitting in the theater looking over my kids being like, “Are they okay?” And they were definitely not-

Justin: Uh-oh. Daddy made some mistakes.

Alex: Yeah. Asking some questions about this. And I was like, okay, dark first scene introducing-

Pete: Questioning your loyalty to your friends.

Alex: … the villain here, it’s fine. Then for anybody who’s seen the movie, a couple of other things happen as we meet the main character, Billy Batson, and then it flashes back to Billy Batson being lost by his mom in a very realistic way in the middle of a carnival. And again that’s very clear-

Pete: Rewatching that the mom was not looking for that child.

Alex: Yeah. Noked out of there, absolutely. But at the same time, again, lots of questions for my very little son at the time being like, “What? What’s happening? Why is this-“

Justin: “Can that happen to me, dad?”

Alex: And I was like not-

Pete: You [inaudible 00:04:51] clearly carnival.

Alex: I was [inaudible 00:04:53] theater at that point to teach him lessons about it.

Justin: Yeah. You walked out of there.

Pete: Yes, this guy, I hope you gave him a compass before you left.

Alex: So that was rough. But that wasn’t the most rough part of the movie. The most rough part of the movie. The part of the movie that I have not been able to forget in the intervening four years since it happened is the boardroom scene.

Pete: The boardroom scene.

Alex: Yes. Where Sivana comes in, throws his brother out the window.

Pete: Throws his brother out like doesn’t-

Justin: Immediately.

Pete: His brother goes first out the window.

Alex: Yes. And brings up the seven-

Justin: And they really linger. They really linger on the rest of the board members being like, “Ah.” And they’re so-

Alex: Not funny scared, realistically scared.

Justin: No.

Alex: And you get the Seven Deadly Sins, which they’re CGI, but they’re very like the Ghostbuster devil dog type thing. I feel like it’s the same mode. And I understand in retrospect what people were saying because if you watch a movie like Ghostbusters, it’s not necessarily that there’s violence like there’s implied violence, some scary things happen, but it’s mostly off screen. Here, one of the Seven Deadly Sins’ odd screen, straight up bites a guy’s head off. People are screaming and sobbing as it happens. This is the point in the theater when we saw it that my children literally started screaming and sobbing and going, “Take me home. Take me home. I don’t want to be here anymore. I don’t want to be here anymore. Take me home.”

Justin: Oh my God.

Alex: And for four years with some regularity, I don’t know why it keeps coming up, and they keep being like, “Hey, remember when you took us to Shazam, and it was the most [inaudible 00:06:22] of all time?”

Justin: “You ruined our lives.”

Pete: Yeah. “When you ruined our childhood.”

Alex: Yeah. So it is hard to watch this movie without recognizing that it was legitimately a formative traumatic experience for both of my children.

Pete: When you’re watching that scene, did you find yourself looking down? The kids weren’t there just like I don’t know.

Alex: Yes, I viscerally felt it in my body while I was watching this time even though they weren’t there.

Justin: Well, it’s playing in their minds on a regular basis whenever they just about to fall asleep so that they’re always watching Shazam in a way.

Alex: Yeah. Exactly.

Pete: It’s funny because you picture… The way you described that, my brother, we went to a zoo with the family and my brother was like, “Oh, look at this thing. It’s called the Arctic Blast. You get stuck in a wind tornado.” And then it’s, “Oh, look at this cool air that’s blown over.” You’re basically locked in this sealed thing, and the kids were like, “Yay, this is fun.” And then they’re pounding on the doors being like, “[inaudible 00:07:22].” It can go on so horribly wrong because they realize they’re trapped in a wind tunnel, and they can’t get out. Yeah, that’s horrifying.

Justin: This movie is like a child prison, really. Because I thought… I can’t believe you had that experience, Alex, because watching this, I was like, “This movie goes way harder than it needs to on the dark stuff.” Especially when it’s the rest of the humor and stuff is so goofy.

Alex: Light. Yeah.

Justin: Very light. And it’s just a weird mix. And it confuses who the audience is for it. Is the idea that audience is arrested development adolescent 30-year-olds?

Pete: It’s old Zachary Levi. You got to-

Alex: I mean, it’s a DC movie. So sure, there you go. I do think, to your point, a couple of other things that I’ll call out here, and I know we’ve just jumped into plot points, so apologies study buddy. Spoiler warning, I guess. But other things like going to the nudie bar multiple times, my kids had questions about that-

Pete: Double down.

Alex: … Santa cursing and screaming and the whole jokes about Santa not being real. We didn’t necessarily have that problem because since we’re Jewish, but at the same time watching this, it was just like you’re saying, Justin, is this collaboration of, “Is this for teens? Is this for families? Is this for adults who don’t want the rest of the DCEU?” Not 100% sure here. And it’s unfortunate because it detracts from the stuff that does actually work pretty well. And one of the things that I’d say works pretty well is it’s pretty true to the comics written by Geoff Johns. I don’t remember where they netted out on this. I know he was involved in some way at this point with this movie with the DCEU. But watching this movie, my big takeaway this time is it reminded me a lot of Stargirl, DC Stargirl on TV, just in terms of that sense of whimsy, but also sense of darkness that they had in the first season. Curious if you guys got the same reaction.

Justin: Agree. I very much agree.

Pete: Well, you gave me flashbacks to that haunted little kid that one season, that was the scariest fucking thing. And he was like that ghost monster.

Justin: Season two. [inaudible 00:09:34].

Pete: [inaudible 00:09:34] disappear and reappear and stuff.

Alex: Oh, and sorry, before we get too deep into it, I did keep promising to mention the plot of the movie [inaudible 00:09:42] watch in a while.

Pete: No, let’s do that.

Justin: Right. Good, good, good.

Alex: So in brief, there’s this kid named Billy Batson. He’s an orphan. He’s looking for his mom. He is taken in at a group foster home by two very kindly people with very kind kids.

Pete: Unbelievable family.

Alex: He wants to immediately leave, doesn’t want to be there, but at the same time, there’s clearly some goodness at him. And after he saves one of his foster brothers, he ends up getting taken in by the Wizard Shazam, who’s been attacked by this guy Sivana, who was rejected, as we mentioned earlier, by him for the power and has been searching for this power this whole life. Sivana has released these Seven Deadly Sins onto the earth and is going to wreak havoc.

So Shazam needs his new champion. He becomes Shazam, which basically grows him into what is supposed to be the idealized adult version of him but is actually Zachary Levi at a muscle suit. And then he tries to figure out his powers, which are shooting lightning from his hands, lightning from his hands and doing other Philadelphia stuff. He uses it mostly to make money at first and then ultimately realize he has to help out his family. And by the end of the movie, everybody in the family has Shazam powers. Sivana is beaten, and we get a tease at the very end there that Sivana might team up with Mister Mind, a deadly evil, super intelligent worm.

So that’s the rough plot of it. The comic book stuff really… I dug it more this time being not sitting next to my kids because the Mister Mind stuff, very goofy for the comics, but they nail it. The Sivana stuff, I think we could talk about it in a second, but particularly the stuff with the kids feels like it’s pulled straight out of… It was Gary Frank and Geoff Johns doing the comic, I believe, and it feels like it’s that on screen and that works for me.

Justin: Yeah. I thought this movie has the comic book stuff, I think, they get really right. The look of the movie is really well done. There are certain moments I’m like, “This is an Alex Ross cover to a Shazam book.” When he’s in meeting with Sivana and fighting Savanna in the Rock of Eternity, there’s a point where Shazam’s crouching down, and I was like, “This is straight off the page.” And I love that. And for a superhero movie, it looks great. It’s like well shot, the CGI is pretty good throughout. There’s a lot of dust. Really, it leans into dust being evil here. So maybe kids can clean.

Pete: Well, dust is evil. I mean, come on, man.

Justin: Yeah. It’s where the Seven Deadly Sins really live. If you look at too dusty, you got some wrath and envy.

Alex: Well, that is what they are.

Justin: Just popping out of your corners.

Alex: There is Wrath, Envy, Dusty, Sneezy, and Doc, right? That’s at least fun.

Pete: Yeah. A couple short, but yeah, yeah.

Alex: I can’t count.

Justin: But those are them. Yeah.

Alex: I will say on the seven-

Justin: My biggest sin is Doc.

Alex: My biggest sin is not being able to count properly. Just to throw about the Seven Deadly Sins. They seem very generic to me and that bummed me out a little bit, particularly on this viewing where they get some mileage out of the fact that Envy has been hiding in Sivana the entire time. And ultimately, Shazam brings Envy out by making him envious, which makes a lot of sense. But the rest of them, other than Gluttony having a big mouth in his stomach-

Pete: I mean, that was pretty cool though. That was pretty-

Alex: That was cool.

Pete: You just know who Gluttony was.

Alex: Exactly. You could tell who Gluttony is. You could tell who Envy is. But the rest of them, they’re just monsters and it doesn’t feel like they do enough with them, I think.

Justin: I agree. It felt like this was a CG limitation. They couldn’t differentiate them too much because it would’ve been a ton of extra work. So I see from a production reason why they did it the way that they did it, but it would’ve been cool to have a more differentiation in just the color of them.

Pete: Yeah. But it’s also one of the things where they do test screenings. Nobody’s going to be like, “I would really more lust in this. There wasn’t enough gluttony. I would’ve like…”

Alex: Yeah. Come on, let’s be fair. There’s one pervert to the back who’s asking for that.

Pete: Okay. [inaudible 00:13:46]-

Justin: Yeah. And his name is Alex Gunn.

Alex: I was sneaking to every test screening like, “This needs a little more lust.” And they’re like, “Sir, this is Toy Story 4.”

Pete: Yeah. And stop twirling your mustache like that. We have warned you numerous times.

Alex: Yay.

Pete: Yeah. I want to talk about Darla and how cute and amazing she is. Every time I see this movie, it’s the one thing that is just absolutely fantastic. I mean, the fact that Billy Batson would get a hug from her and not immediately fall in love with his family is a little off-putting to me because I-

Justin: Yeah, he’s hardened.

Pete: Yeah. That melted my heart. I don’t know how it could not gotten to him.

Justin: That’s crazy because I got you a Darla hug for your birthday this year.

Pete: Oh my gosh.

Justin: You’re going to really… It’s going to hopefully soften you up a little bit and you can join our family.

Alex: So she’s played by Faithe Herman, and I agree, she’s pulled straight out of the comic book. She’s great. And in fact, all the kids are great. They don’t really necessarily get all equal time. We don’t find a lot about Pedro, for example, necessarily, but they do feel like the bones of this family unit is there. Mary gets a little bit more time and she’s very good. But again, she’s very side to the narrative. And this gets not to air too negative because again, I think other than traumatizing my children, which I have a little bone to pick there.

Justin: And you’re great at that.

Pete: Mm-hmm. Yeah. You’re killing it.

Alex: I’m pretty even about this movie. I think there’s a lot of elements going on and none of them really get the proper amount of time to fully develop. The family is one of those where it feels like emotionally, it’s skirts the top of Billy being like, “Oh, I don’t have a family.” Well, here’s a family. “I love this family more than anything.” And that’s where we get and we’re missing some in between points there, and that ties into what I was saying just before in terms of all of the kids where they have the idea of arcs. But other than, I think, Freddy is probably the best one because he gets the most scream time. We get a really good sense-

Pete: He gets fingered.

Alex: Ooh. I know what you’re talking about, but [inaudible 00:16:00].

Justin: Nobody else does.

Alex: Yep. Tom Green movie. Just to clarify, that’s what Pete referenced to.

Justin: Freddy Got Fingered.

Alex: Yep. The other thing.

Pete: The Freddy never the other thing, by the way.

Alex: Yes. Thanks, Pete. Thanks for clarifying and taking a hard stance there. Freddy has been most of the-

Justin: Now there’s the pervert in the back.

Alex: Pete’s right next to me every time.

Justin: Yeah.

Pete: Nope.

Justin: Exactly.

Alex: I say, “[inaudible 00:16:21], please.” And he’s like, “Yeah, me too.” Anyway, Freddy has a good emotional arc, the rest of them though. That was my point.

Justin: Well, and I will say we’re familiar with the Shazamly through the comics. So we saw-

Alex: [inaudible 00:16:35].

Justin: Yep. Saw this coming a little bit. But I think it’s such a nice reveal if you weren’t aware that they all become Shazams, then that that’s such a fun moment in the movie when he gives that… He solves the Wizard’s mystery and gives them all the powers of Shazam. It’s such a great… Even though I knew I was still really charmed by that, but I agree with you about their arcs. We don’t get enough time to really meet all of them and when they become so important, I was like, “Oh yeah, they’re big now. I wish I knew what their personalities were when they were little so that I could like them when they’re big.”

Alex: So I could match this.

Justin: Exactly.

Pete: But the Darla part with Santa is hysterical-

Justin: And Darla really comes through.

Pete: … where she stays in a… Yeah. And she’s like, “Oh my God.” She’s starstruck by Santa. That’s a two second amazing moment, but it’s still-

Alex: Yeah. And that’s a tribute to the adult cast that they cast to these people, and I think that’s Meagan Good, who is very funny and-

Pete: Oh my God. She’s great.

Alex: … even like this cat role. And Ross Butler, who shows up as the adult Ethan. Is that the name of the character? Eugene?

Pete: Eugene.

Alex: Ross Butler as Eugene. There’s just like this quick shot after he gets the muscles where he is looking at himself, he’s like, “Hahaha.” That was very funny. It made me laugh. And maybe we’ll get more of them in the sequel, but I think they did a good job there. The absolute best one though, the perfect casting the movie is definitely not Zachary Levi, it’s Adam Brody as the adult Freddy, which is perfection.

Pete: Oh yeah.

Justin: Right.

Alex: Absolute perfection. The matchup of those actors is great. Adam Brody is great and hilarious. And you could really see the connection between the younger actor and the older actor there.

Pete: I got to feel like it’s Darla and then Freddy, but I’m with you on that. It’s pretty good.

Justin: Number one Darla fan. Well, and I think it speaks to the emotional imbalance in the movie, we’re talking about a little bit where so much of it goes hard and the moment where Billy goes and sees his mom and we have to deal with this excruciating story of how she abandoned him on purpose and this, and he immediately clicks over is like, “I love this other family now so much.” And it just feels like that’s such a heartbreaking like icky feeling that you have while you’re watching that. And then to go into this other side where it’s such a bright moment for this family getting superpowers, I was like, “Let’s just see, set that up a little bit more rather than make us suffer alongside.” We already know that Billy had a rough go of it. We don’t need to suffer so much alongside him, I feel like.

Pete: Yeah. And what’s crazy is they don’t even let up on that. The fact that he hands her the compass, and she goes, “What’s that?” is so much worse.

Justin: I know. It’s unrelated.

Pete: She could have been like, “Oh.” You know what I mean? The fact that it meant nothing to her was so much worse, and that’s why he’s walking away down the hall crying. I was just like, “You guys could have let us off the hook a little bit there.” It was so bad.

Alex: I think you could see a little bit of the screenwriting logic there in terms of why doesn’t he want to stay in this great house? And the reason he doesn’t want to stay in this great house is he wants to go after his mother. That is his main goal.

Justin: Yeah. That has been his thing.

Alex: That’s the thing that he wants. And the only reason he would not go with his mother and instead go back to this house is if she was the worst person possible. So that’s what they set up there. But to your point, I think we’re using the phrase emotional to balance a lot, but it does lead to this thing that is just hard to watch and it’s hard to moderate. What’s the name of the guy, Asher Angel, who plays the young Billy Batson?

Pete: Yeah.

Alex: Nothing against him, but that is a-

Pete: He’s great.

Alex: He’s very good.

Justin: He is good.

Alex: Particularly with the comedy. I think it’s a hard emotional pivot going from, “I am emotionally destroyed by my mom” to Gee Whiz I Love You guys, and it doesn’t work. One thing I do want to ask about that we haven’t actually got into yet is the other side of Asher Angel, which is Zachary Levi. He is absolutely one of my favorite anti-vaxxers, sorry, actors.

Justin: [inaudible 00:20:37].

Alex: I always mix up those words. What do you guys think about him?

Pete: Oh my God. Well, before you did that bit, I mean-

Justin: Well, just a little background on that, right when the press tour started for the new Shazam movie coming out, he put a anti-vax tweet up and it was like, yo, dude, there’s so many times you could have put this up and put your beliefs out there when people would’ve been like, “That’s weird,” but it would’ve gone by the wayside. He finally has this movie to promote, and he drops that he’d think the people who work at Warner Brothers must have been so pissed about that.

Alex: They ran over to his house, immediately threw his phone into the ocean.

Pete: It sucks because before… I’m a sucker for a romcom. So Chuck, I thought he was fun and Chuck, and it just sucks that there’s this other thing that’s keeping me from enjoying his performance here. But I think that as the wide eye, innocent new guy with powers, I think he does a great job of that. You know what I mean? It’s just too bad of all the other bullshit is ruining it.

Justin: Well, and I think we’re orbiting the idea here that this movie, maybe across the board has an immaturity about it. I think for the script, it feels like it’s written by kids where it’s like, “Yeah, that’s emotion there sad.” Or like, “Why don’t we have it blow up?” And it’s like, “Okay. Well, we don’t need it there.” And we’re not dealing with the actual stakes and ramifications of these moments. And Zachary Levi feels like immature in that way where you’re like, “Oh, I see why you think this is funny, but it makes me you less when you do that.” And that’s a little bit of… There’s something about him that is annoying.

Alex: So yeah, a couple of things about that, I mean, first of all, to be straight up, I have always found Zachary Levi like nails on a chalkboard for whatever reason. There’s something about his delivery and like you’re saying, Justin, he just feels like he’s trying so hard to be like, “I’m the funny guy in the room,” and I find it uncomfortable and annoying. So I was already against him going into this. So having almost nothing to do with his beliefs, I already didn’t necessarily love it.

But I do want to say something that I think ties into what we’re saying and to actually back up something that’s Zachary Levi said on this recent tour. He was talking about how he feels like Shazam is the Deadpool of the DC universe, which everybody lumped on him for. I think based on what we’re talking about, he’s right in a certain sense. It’s not Deadpool because he is not Ryan Reynolds. Zachary Levi, I don’t want to put words into his brain or anything, but Zachary Levi wishes he was Ryan Reynolds and… Well, he does. Ryan Reynolds, as annoying as he can be, has a perfect delivery odd jokes. He knows how to sell a joke just naturally, and Zachary Levi doesn’t have that. So it’s like, I don’t know, 50 to 60% of Deadpool.

Pete: Well, I mean, you’re comparing a different styles a little bit. I mean, I want to talk a little bit about some of the things that felt were funny like the line where he goes like-

Justin: Wait, wait. Before we move on to that, can I talk about the Deadpool thing for a sec?

Pete: Okay.

Justin: If you are you going to talk about that just so we don’t lose it. Because I agree that it’s a similar thing, it’s just coming from the opposite side. Ryan Reynolds is winking knowing like, “I’m inside this superhero thing, and I’m letting you see it too. Haha.” Well, it’s the opposite with Shazam. He’s like, “I don’t know what I’m doing, but isn’t this weird?” So it’s still pointing at stuff and calling out superhero and action movie tropes, but Ryan Reynolds, it’s a little more winky and cool, and you’re keeping up with him. And with Shazam, it’s like you’re a little bit past him. You know what I mean? From a comedic point of view, you’re a little bit ahead of the joke, but he’s still making it from that point of view. That’s all I wanted to say because I agree they’re similar, but just that one little difference makes it taste different, I think, when we watch it.

Pete: Yeah. I do think it is a different style for sure. I also like when they’re just sitting on the rocky steps and he goes, “Sick view, I can see why Rocky works so hard to get up here” is just a throwaway line, but it’s funny. I thought that that was a good line. And also when he’s running in the toy store and he throws the Batman figure at him and it’s like, “I’m Batman.” I mean, that’s pretty funny.

Justin: Funny though, when he runs across the big piano, I was like, ooh, that’s a smart reference that they didn’t overplay. They just did it rather than being like, “Look, it’s the piano for me.”

Pete: Yeah. Then he’s doing chopsticks.

Alex: One that is another character that we should probably talk about is Mark Strong as Sivana. This is the second time that he’s played a villain in a DC movie. He previously was Sinestro in the Green Lantern movie with none other than Ryan Reynolds who we’re just talking about.

This is another example, and I know we’re lumping on this movie a lot, or at least I’m lumping on this movie a lot, but he does a great job. I think this is another half-baked emotional arc that really struck me this second time through watching it, rewatching it, where there is a very strong connection between Sivana who wants power at the expense of his albeit terrible family versus Billy who wants to leave this great family so that he could be with his mom, et cetera. So there’s this vague theme of families running through the whole thing, but the fact that it ends up with the, I don’t know, moral or whatever it is being like Shazam beats it by tearing out his eyeball and just catching it before it falls off of building versus anything to do with the lessons that they learned over the course of the movie about family or appealing to his emotional side or his family side or something like that.

That core is missing there. It feels like there was a connection that they started with at the beginning, and they’re like, yeah, they both have deals with their families, right? And then it just stops there.

Pete: So what you’re saying is family matters is what you’re saying?

Alex: Yes. Did you do that? Did you do that?

Justin: Huge. He’ll squeeze in family matters anytime he get-

Alex: Yeah. I’ll tell you what definitely, definitely matters to our dad who we can’t tell who he is, but yeah.

Justin: We can’t. Exactly. That’s why we have such a good relationship with him that we’re secretly doing this podcast about him. I agree with you, Alex, because especially they did worked hard to put these themes right there on the table, and then they ended up defeating him with the getting into the mechanics of how they beat him by pulling his eye out and all that. What I feel like, they did all the work to be like, “Look, I’m losing to you.” And Shazam’s losing to Sivana until he activates his family. And then his family helps him defeat Sivana because his fake family of demons isn’t real and they defeat them easily. So it’s right there. I’m just so surprised they didn’t give it that little bit of push to say it or whatever.

Alex: Or have a moment at the end where Billy tries to appeal to him versus just ripping his eyeball out and throwing him off of a building. Some sense of, “We’re going to have the physical fisticuffs, but hey, come with us, be…” Instead of taking this power that is fake, because Billy does say that to him at some point. He’s like, “You know this power is fake. This isn’t real. They’re trying to use you, please.” But it does appeal to him earlier on in the movie. But in that final fight, I feel like there’s an opportunity there for him to try again and be like, “There’s a better way.”

Justin: Or even if it’s like his family, the Shazamly doesn’t leave him, family doesn’t leave you. If the demons abandoned Sivana leaving him alone, and he’s like… That hammers the lesson home.

Alex: Yeah. You could have a moment to be able see what you-

Justin: They move on to find another champion or something right in the last moment, right before Shazams about to punch him, the eyeball leaves him. And it’s like, “Look, see, you didn’t learn the lesson.” And then I feel like it would’ve been combining the action with the themes, not to rewrite it here in the moment, but yeah, it was very close.

Pete: I agree with you, but the fact that we got this suitcase wedgie callback because that didn’t happen, I kind of more for that though.

Justin: I love that you did bring that up because some characters we really have to talk about are the bullies because they’re emblematic of, I’m like, “Does the people who made this movie know people in the world?” There are so many characters in this movie, I’m like, “What?” The foster home woman who’s like, “Hey, I have to tell you this, but your mom doesn’t love you.” I was like, “Yo.”

Alex: Yeah, that was a harsh talk.

Justin: Cool it, lady. It’s not your job to say that. And then the bullies-

Alex: Well, and also at least, just real note, quick note about the foster home lady. She apparently is a character from one of David F. Sandberg’s other films, which is weird that he-

Justin: Oh, that is weird.

Alex: … just brought that into the DCU. But anyway, go ahead, Justin.

Justin: And have her say a line where there is not at all connected to reality. But the bullies in this movie are so intense about bullying. They bully above all, and they’re always together. When they’re riding the Ferris wheel together, I’m like, “You bullies ride the Ferris wheel together?” I think you love each other [inaudible 00:30:04] day.

Pete: Bullies ride the Ferris wheel together. I mean, it’s beautiful.

Justin: The fact that the bullies have nunchucks, I was like, “You bullies drive this badass truck that you refuse to park without jumping over the curb.” Okay, rebellious. And then they had nunchucks that comes out of his backpack. I was like, “What is this?”

Alex: Justin, I understand what you’re saying, but I do think for a commentary point, we need to go to peel the page, a person who owns nunchucks. Take it away, Pete.

Pete: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, personally, I felt very seen when the guy just casually had nunchucks on him. I was like, “You goddamn right.” I mean, who’s walking around without chucks is what I want to know.

Justin: Well, that brings up a question through what’s a nunchuck worthy event? What places are you going where you got the nunchucks in the back pocket?

Pete: Well, I mean, if you’re looking for trouble, you’re going to have a mania and then have them visible. You know what I mean? So if you’re a bully, I think the back pocket is a very logical choice.

Justin: I feel like I’ve never seen nunchucks used effectively. They’re mostly hit into your own face as a nunchuck-

Pete: Well, it’s an art form to learn it. So you got to be very careful with it. You got to know what you’re doing. You got to have some training with it to know how to handle it. So you don’t… It’s very easy to hit yourself in the face or worse.

Justin: Have you ever thought about having just a stick without a string connecting the two so you could have control of what’s happening with it?

Pete: Sure. Sure. But then it’s a different weapon altogether.

Justin: There’s a reason Gandalf didn’t have a nunchuck staff when he was trying to stop the Balrog. You know what I’m talking about?

Alex: I mean, maybe he would’ve survived if he had a nunchuck, I’m just saying.

Pete: Yeah. Exactly.

Justin: [inaudible 00:31:36] nunchuck-

Alex: Should have turned these nunchunks into some chucks. You know what I’m talking about?

Pete: Oh, boy.

Alex: Anyway, I did want to talk a little bit about setting up for sequels here. This gets back into the Sivana discussion a little bit because I do have a sense of the way that they edit his arc was to set him up for that post credit scene where he is in an insane jail asylum or jail or whatever to an unclear-

Justin: An insane jail asylum.

Pete: Yeah. It’s like a super villain jail it seems like.

Alex: Yeah. Well, he’s to [inaudible 00:32:04] feeling, Pete.

Justin: Honestly, it looks like-

Alex: We had a bunch of this, right?

Pete: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Justin: You were in one. I bet you were in one for a while. After that nunchuck incident where you hit yourself in the face with it and they were like, “Take him to the insane jail.”

Alex: Yeah. He’s there with Mister Mind. And this doesn’t show up in the movie. I actually had imagined it showed up in the movie, but it’s a deleted scene. They did a deleted scene where they’re sitting on those thrones and they’re like, “Hey, there’s six of us, who sits in the seventh seat?” And there’s a slow pattern of the seventh seat. And then Darla says, “Well, whoever it is, we’ll love them completely.” And of course, that’s supposed to be a tease for Black Adam showing up in the sequel. That also ties into the fact that Black Adam was originally supposed to be the villain here until Dwayne The Rock Johnson was like, “Nope. I get my own movie. I’m going to do my own movie. I’m not going to be in this first movie just as the villain, and we’re going to introduce Black Adam.”

Pete: Well, we don’t know if they pitched him on it and he was like, “No, this movie sucks.”

Alex: No, we actually know that they did.

Justin: No, we do know that.

Alex: We do know that.

Pete: Really?

Alex: He was supposed to be in it. He is a producer on the movie. But he made the decision and said, “No. I want to do a separate Black Adam movie. We got to introduce Black Adam first, and then potentially he could work into the sequel in some way.” But he is too big of a character to just be the villain in the first Shazam movie. So this is all a big way of saying, I do think some of the slight hobbling of the Sivana storyline might have to do with the fact that they had to work around the logical villain of the movie being Black Adam and instead we’re setting up a bunch of other things that may or may not happen.

Justin: Yeah. Agreed. And it’s interesting like, is Black Adam going to show up in this sequel? Is it a post credit? You don’t think so?

Alex: Maybe post credits except for the fact that this movie tanked, and they don’t want anything to do with him.

Justin: That’s what I think. But I feel like that movie tanked… They really believed in that movie and that movie tanking may have happened long enough after they were like Black Adams in this movie that they didn’t go back and take him out.

Alex: If it’s a post credit scene, it’s easy enough to pull that out. I’d also throw out there, not to get too much into backstage drama, but because Dwayne Johnson apparently made this power move of being like, “We’re bringing Henry Cavill back. We’re going over everybody’s heads. He is Superman again,” which of note, they couldn’t even get Henry Cavill for the first Shazam movie because we see-

Justin: They got his torso.

Alex: Yeah. His torso.

Pete: Yeah. Torso was great.

Alex: Well, it’s actually that Zachary Levi’s stunt double in the Superman costume who shows up there. And it was a friend.

Pete: It’s a fun moment, especially the fact that you can… Like milk is very prevalent, was funny, I thought that was pretty well done.

Alex: Yeah. I was totally focusing on the milk as well. Same thing.

Justin: But that was a funny choice.

Pete: Superman with milk, come on.

Justin: Milk was very prevalent. I heard at the focus screening, you shouted, “The milk is very prevalent” right at the-

Alex: Yeah.

Justin: They moved it up. They highlighted the milk. They put an extra light on the milk.

Alex: Yeah. And then I [inaudible 00:34:57] up. “[inaudible 00:34:57], please. Yeah.”

Justin: You guys are the Statler and Waldorf of these screenings in [inaudible 00:35:03]. You got to make a change.

Pete: Oh my God.

Alex: Just to finish this up though, there was all this drama about bringing back Henry Cavill. Dwayne Johnson basically forced him into the Black Adam, not forced him, but over Warner Brothers head or forced the issue.

Pete: Forced the issue. Yeah.

Alex: And it was seemingly this power play to be the future of DC movies is Black Adam. That’s where it all kicks off. And meanwhile, in the background, David Zaslav, who runs Warner Brothers Discovery was like, “No, I’m working with James Gunn over here. We’re doing this own thing.” And now Henry Cavill is out, Black Adam is not getting a sequel, all of this stuff. So could he show up? Maybe, but I feel like they’re done with him at this point.

Justin: Well, it makes sense, once you go over the heads of the heads and try to do something and then they’re like, “Well, we didn’t like that.” So that’s not happening anymore. Makes a lot of sense.

Alex: Yes. But what do you think though, I mean, to get into future speculation here, we have Shazam! Fury of the Gods as of this taping coming out in a week, I guess? Something like that.

Pete: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alex: Yeah. So what do you think? What are you looking for? Oh yeah. You have more stuff about this movie though, Pete. Take it.

Pete: Yeah. I just want to say a couple more positive things-

Alex: Observations, things that you see milk in the movie. Take it away.

Pete: Yeah, yeah.

Justin: Where else is milk prevalent? Where was the prevalence of milk?

Pete: Yeah. I wanted to say the ending with the credit animation and the music. I thought that was fun. I thought that was a good exclamation point on the end of the movie that I thought-

Alex: Yeah. Just a note about that. I saw that and I was like, “Wow, these people saw Spider-Man Homecoming.”

Justin: Oh, wow.

Pete: Oh man, look at this roast.

Alex: They did. I’m just googling to make sure I didn’t get the dates wrong. But yeah, Spider-Man Homecoming was 2017, 100% ripped off the end credits there.

Pete: Wow. I mean, you don’t know that for a fact but-

Alex: I mean, I could intuit it.

Justin: And on that note, you didn’t see a lot of use of the Shazam family’s last name, their actual last name, Marvel.

Alex: Oh, yeah.

Justin: Mary Marvel is her name.

Alex: Well, just to mention about that in case anybody doesn’t know what Justin’s joking about here. So originally it was Captain Marvel in the comic books due to rights structuring. Obviously, there is a Captain Marvel in Marvel, which I believe they did to… I never really understand this, but essentially be like it was originally a Charlton character that was taken over by DC and they’d never register it. So Marvel was like, “Well, we could register it.” And then they took it away. So eventually, when they knew the movie was a development, it’s been a development. It was a development for almost two decades at that point. They rebooted the character in the comics and very specifically called him Shazam. Occasionally, they’ll refer to him as Captain Marvel, but for the most part, it’s Shazam and that’s what they call the character going forward.

Justin: And that’s why the term Shazamly has cut on when it used to be the Marvel family.

Pete: Yeah. And also they were right. I mean, Thundercrack did sound a little too much [inaudible 00:37:59] to you. So it was fun to use the Captain Sparklefingers and the way they were playing with that was a fun running bit, I thought.

Alex: Yeah. Cool. Well, let’s talk about Shazam! Fury of the Gods then, which again, coming out very shortly. What do you guys think? What are you looking forward to in this movie? Are you looking forward to this movie after this watch/rewatch of the original Shazam?

Pete: Well, the title makes me think it’s going to be light. You know what I mean? Fury of the Gods seems like a light kind of fun, rummy, calmly kind of adventure. So yeah, I’m hoping that they learn from this movie, but by the title, it sounds like they’re not. So I’m a little worried about it.

Justin: Like I said, I like this movie more than I thought I would. I hope that they continue to make it better. Maybe get a little more character development there from your main characters as well as just your random characters so that they feel more like real people and keep up-

Pete: So mostly Darla is what you’re saying? Mostly Darla.

Justin: Potentially. I’d like to see more of the Shazamly there. I think they could be very fun. I think superhero movies, the look of them has fallen off a lot in the intervening years, so I hope they keep up the great look of the movie that they had for this first.

Alex: Yeah. I mean, one little worry is it looks like from the trailers, they’ve amped up the danger and the CGI and everything, there’s big dragons and things exploding and buildings turning and everything. The good news is they’ve got villains in Helen Mirren and Lucy Liu who are great. I would happily watch them murder those children if that’s the way the movie turns out, I guess, what happens.

Justin: Oh, wow. Wow. You’re going to take your kids to that.

Alex: They should wait. Come on.

Justin: Take your kids [inaudible 00:39:47]-

Alex: Probably not. Probably not. But there’s that part of it. The other part of it, and this is a very niche thing. I don’t know if either of you guys or anybody listening out there see a show called Starstruck, which is currently on HBO Max.

Justin: Yes.

Alex: So the plot of Starstruck is it’s like a sex reverse Notting Hill where this woman meets a guy on New Year’s, they hook up. She doesn’t realize he’s one of the biggest movie stars in the world, and they end up dating and figuring things out. And over the course of the first season, he is in this big movie, I think it’s called Keys to Olympus or something like that. And he goes-

Pete: And she have a travel bookshop?

Alex: No.

Pete: Well, then what the-

Alex: She works at a movie theater though. It’s great. Pete, this is apropo of Notting. You should watch Starstruck. You will absolutely love it.

Pete: [inaudible 00:40:34] it’s not a fucking Notting Hill.

Justin: A movie theater’s like a bookshop for movies.

Alex: Yeah. For your mind.

Justin: For your mind.

Alex: Anyway, what I was saying was, he goes on this rad, when he reaches a breaking point with this movie where he’s talking about all the stuff in superhero movies and these big budget movies that make no sense. And he just shouts out the lines something like, “Why do you need keys to Olympus? It’s a mountain. You could walk up it.” And that stuck with me so hard at this [inaudible 00:41:02]. It really did because-

Pete: It stuck with me so hard. What a sense.

Alex: Well, because I feel like there’s these logical leaps we make when we watch these movies, and particularly when I’ve been seeing the trailer for Shazam! Fury of the Gods, we’re like we have to break into the underworld when this combination of things using the power of Shazam. I’m like, “Oh no, they need the keys to Olympus.” Oh, what a bummer.

Justin: Well, there’s so much of that in superhero movies. For instance, in this movie where in the Rock of Eternity, the eye of demons is kept in a cage that whenever anyone’s hand touches it, it opens. I was like, “What? First off, put this in a box with a key.”

Alex: Yeah. You have a crocodile door somewhere. Throw it to the crocodile door, come on.

Justin: Oh, man. Put it somewhere else. Why do you have your demons talking to your guests? I wouldn’t have those demons chatting with the kids I’ve invited over to my-

Pete: Yeah. So why when you [inaudible 00:41:53]-

Alex: Put them in the [inaudible 00:41:53]-

Pete: … [inaudible 00:41:53] demons?

Alex: Exactly. Throw them through the crocodile door.

Justin: Throw in the bathroom.

Alex: I want to push the crocodile door, but it’s right there, so come on.

Pete: Seems like you’re pushing crocodile door.

Alex: [inaudible 00:42:01]-

Justin: I know. Didn’t you add a crocodile door to your house, Alex?

Alex: I did. They’re very hungry. I could hear them right now. So we’re probably going to have to wrap this up quick. Any final thoughts on Shazam before we wrap up here? Pete?

Pete: No.

Alex: No. Milk is prevalent. Justin, what about you?

Justin: So milk is prevalent. A couple moments. Obviously, there’s a whole segment in the movie showing off the best power that Shazam gets first off, success on YouTube. I think that’s such a funny thing that we do a lot in movies, especially superhero movies, where it’s like, “Look, the hero is becoming famous on YouTube.” And I’m like, “We cannot not do that.” There’s just so many things where every superhero movie from a certain amount of time was made like no one had ever seen a superhero movie before. And I hope we’re ready to move past that because we have seen all of them. And I mean we-

Alex: Dude, YouTube is here to stay, bro.

Justin: I’m not saying YouTube goes away.

Alex: My final thought that I’ll throw out there, apropo of this podcast that we’re taping right now is this movie is much more heavily in the DCEU version of the DC movies that I remembered. Even though they don’t show Henry Cavill’s head, it’s pretty clearly Henry Cavill’s Superman. They’re pretty clearly like they have Batfleck’s batarang in there and everything I’m talking about.

Pete: Oh, man.

Alex: They show off in the end credits, which Pete loved. They showed off Jason Momoa Aquaman and Ezra Miller, The Flash. So it’s very tied there. Given that James Gunn has talked about, “Oh, Shazam was on the side.” This is definitely not on the side. I’m curious how on the side Fury of the Gods is if we are going to get that Dwayne The Rock Johnson cameo, if there are going to be other references if they pulled them out or not. So that’ll be an interesting thing to see.

Justin: Well, I think that points to whether or not the new regime, the Gunn-Safran regime had any chance to get their fingers in this movie and be like, “You know what? Let’s make-“

Pete: But it seems like they didn’t because they said, “Perfect movie, we didn’t do anything.”

Justin: Oh, no. They may have-

Alex: Well, also they delayed it a year and a half or something. So they’ve had plenty of time to make changes, I think.

Justin: And I do think when the original Shazam came out, it was just like, “Well, anything goes, let’s make all these movies part of all one thing even if it’s like different bat people are hanging around in them.” And I think that’s a big change that’s coming under the new Gunn-Safran regime where it’s like, “No, no, let’s be very specific about where this movie fits into the larger picture.”

So I bet this Fury of the Gods is going to be on the side firmly, and I think that’s a good choice because Shazam was never going to be… If you’re making Superman Shazam movies, they shouldn’t be trying to fill the same hole. It’s weird. They’re too similar from a power set point of view and confusing to the casual person who isn’t a huge comic book head that’s like, “Yeah, look at that Superman with a lightning bolt, cool, new, look, shirt he’s wearing.” And it’s like, “No, you need a little difference makers here.” So putting this to the side… But I will say also on this-

Pete: Yeah. Sometimes you don’t get to pick your costume. All right.

Justin: Actually, most of the time you do. I mean, you pick your costume every day, right? Or just someone else.

Pete: I’m quoting Shazam to you.

Justin: Oh, got you.

Alex: Not familiar.

Pete: The movie we just wants to-

Alex: Is the movie any good? Is the movie any good? I haven’t seen it.

Pete: Jesus Christ.

Justin: But Peter Safran is a producer of these movies. He’s had his hand in these a lot. So his hand was already in this movie, but when he took over, so maybe it was much easier to make some-

Pete: So you feel like more Safran. Do you want more Safran? Is that what you’re saying?

Justin: Yeah. That’s my favorite flavor.

Alex: You ever have some Safran milk, Pete? I think he’d really enjoy it.

Pete: Yum. Expensive.

Alex: It’s prevalent. We will be back next time with our thoughts on Shazam! Fury of the Gods, so do be sure to check that out.

Pete: Do be.

Alex: Do be. If you’d like to support this podcast and other podcasts, we do patreon.com/comicbookclub. Also we do a live show every Tuesday night at 7:00 PM to Facebook and YouTube. Come hang out, we’d love to chat with you about the DCEU. Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, or the app of your choice to subscribe, listen, and follow the show at comicbooklive on Twitter, comicbookclublive on TikTok and Instagram, comicbookclublive.com for this podcast and many more. Until next time. Dad, you’re doing a great job.

Justin: Dad, keep it up. I’m sorry I didn’t make our trip triple bunk beds this morning. I will as soon as I get home.

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Adventures of Superman: Jon Kent #1
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Clayton Henry

Predator #1
Marvel
Written by Ed Brisson
Art by Netho Diaz

Stone Heart #1
Image Comics
By Emma Kubert

The Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing #6
DC Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Carmine Di Giandomenico, Francesco Francavilla

X-23: Deadly Regenesis
Marvel
Written by Erica Schultz
Art by Edgar Salazar

A.R.C. #1
Image Comics
Written by Matt Hawkins, Ryan Cody & Paul Feinstein
Art by Atilio Rojo

Static: Shadows of Dakota #2
DC Comics
Written by Nikolas Draper-Ivey and Vita Ayala
Art by Nikolas Draper-Ivey

The Amazing Spider-Man #21
Marvel
Written by Zeb Wells
Art by John Romita Jr.

Blood Tree #2
Image Comics
Written by Peter J. Tomasi
Art by Maxim Šimić

Batman and The Joker: The Deadly Duo #5
DC Comics
By Marc Silvestri

Avengers #66
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Javier Garrón

Almighty #2
Image Comics
By Edward Laroche

Batman #133
DC Comics
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Mike Hawthorne, Michael Mendonça

Scarlet Witch #3
Marvel
Written by Steve Orlando
Art by Sara Pichelli

Gospel #5
Image Comics
By Will Morris

Poison Ivy #10
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson
Art by Marcio Takara

Silver Surfer: Ghost Light #2
Marvel
Written by John Jennings
Art by Valentine De Landro

Rogue Sun #11
Image Comics
Written by Ryan Parrott
Art by Abel

Fantastic Four #5
Marvel
Written by Ryan North
Art by Ivan Fiorelli

Two Graves #5
Image Comics
Written by Genevieve Valentine
Art by Ming Doyle

Mary Jane & Black Cat #4
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by Vincenzo Carratù

Know Your Station #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art by Liana Kangas

Bloodline: Daughter of Blade #2
Marvel
Written by Danny Lore
Art by Karen S. Darboe

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Alex: Welcome to Sons of a Gunn, a podcast about the DC movie, TV and comic book universe. My name is Alex Gunn.

Justin: My name is Justin Gunn.

Pete: I’m Pete.

Alex: Also, last name Gunn. And for legal reasons, we can’t say who our father is, but-

Justin: Yeah, let’s just say we know what’s going on.

Alex: Yes.

Justin: Pew. Pew. Bang bang.

Alex: Yes. We are identical triplets who love the DC universe, and we’re very excited to be talking about it, particularly as a completely unrelated guy named James Gunn and Peter Safran have taken over the DC movie and films. But to take a big step back, before we get into any of that, a little bit of background about us.

If this is the first time you’re listening to one of our podcasts, we’ve actually been doing podcasts for over 15 years now. We have done a live show where we interview comic book artists and writers every week called Comic Book Club. It’s streamed live to a bunch of different platforms, including YouTube and Facebook, and we’ve rolled out a bunch of other podcasts off of that. Some of those are comic book podcasts. We do The Stack, a review podcast where we review tons of DC comics, as well as Marvel comics as well. Don’t want to downplay that. And we actually do have a Marvel podcast called MarvelVision, where we’ve been talking about the revamped MCU ever since WandaVision first premiered on Disney Plus. And now with this new start here, we’re trying to get into the same thing. We, I’ve done a couple of DC podcasts, right though? We’ve done… That’s

Justin: That’s right. Krypton, famously.

Alex: After Krypton. Yeah, you can check that out.

Pete: Doom Patrol.

Alex: We all agreed and loved it. And… Right, Pete? Yeah?

Justin: Yep, all fans.

Pete: Doom Patrol. We did Doom Patrol.

Alex: Yes, The Doom-

Justin: Still doing.

Alex: … Room. Yeah, we’re still doing it. At least another six episodes. We’ll see what happens, I guess, after that. And with it being canceled and all, we also did Watchmen Watch, a podcast about HBO’s Watchmen.

Pete: Oh, so good.

Alex: And was diving into the comic books there. And Sweet Tooth, which is a-

Justin: Of course.

Pete: Oh, yeah.

Alex: … Vertigo comic. We did a podcast called Candy Men, where we tried candy and also talked about Sweet Tooth, and did some fun interviews there.

Pete: My favorite of all the podcasts.

Alex: So you can check out that and many more podcasts from us at comicbookclublive.com. But this is going to be the place where we talk about the DC stuff going forward. So on this podcast, other than that little intro about ourselves, I figured what we could do is we could talk about this new rejuvenated, hopefully, DC cinematic universe, and then run down some of the stuff that’s coming up.

Pete: I don’t like your attitude already with the Rejuvenate. They’ve had- the Batman, you’ve been talking about how great The Batman is for months. Now all of a sudden Batman, it’s like, oh, you’re not going to count that?

Alex: I love the Batman. The Batman is the best-

Pete: Well, then don’t give the rejuvenated…

Alex: … Cinematic representation of Batman on screen. But that Robert Pattinson, he’s getting old, that’s what I’m going to.

Pete: Who are you?

Alex: When I say rejuvenated, he’s basically an old man at this point. And-

Justin: We need a younger Batman. That’s what everyone- we either need a younger or a much older Batman. I think we can all agree on that.

Alex: Well, we’re definitely going to talk about which one we’re going to be getting in a little bit. So as mentioned, and as folks probably know, James Gunn, who directed The Guardians of the Galaxy movies, as well as the Suicide Squad and the Peacemaker TV series, or at least directed a couple of episodes and wrote that. Did you say it’s magnificent, Pete? Is that what you threw out there?

Pete: Peacemaker, it was a lot- it was really great.

Alex: Great show. Super fun. He has been promoted to the creative head of DC Studios. He’s been working with a small writing team that includes Tom King, one of our favorite comic book writers, and a couple of other folks who crafted a story that is called Chapter One, Gods and Monsters. They have a 10-year story that they’re hoping to tell over, I believe, two movies and two TV shows a year. But before we get that, we got to get through the vestigial tale of the previous DC Universe.

Justin: Well, but it’s not to say- So, I mean, let’s just, to talk about what you’ve said for a second there.

Pete: Yeah.

Justin: James Gunn, you’re elevating a creative, a sort of in the moment popular creative force-

Pete: Oh, whoa, whoa.

Justin: … in comic book movies.

Pete: In the Moment. No, it’s been a long-

Justin: I mean that positively.

Pete: Years of- Oh, okay.

Justin: It’s a positive, a positive comment. He’s very much sought after. He’s- it’s strange to elevate someone who is such a hot director and hot writer and creator right now to a studio exec position. So it’s a strange choice in a good way, and I think it’s going to reprioritize a lot of things. But as Alex is saying, we have these movies that were already being made before he and Peter Safran took over. So that’s interesting. I’m curious, let’s talk about them. And I wonder how much of a hand they’ve had in these movies, if any, as they’re getting them ready to come out.

Pete: But I think, though, that DC has done that. I mean, if you look at Jim Lee and where he started to what he he’s doing now, is… DC’s kind of famous for taking talent and elevating it. Maybe not, you know, you might be great at something else, but also like, “Oh, let’s see what else you can do.” Pushing boundaries, trying different things. So I think there is an excitement to this move. It might seem a little crazy, but it’s also kind of exciting to see what can happen.

Justin: It’s very exciting. I mean, one of the things that he said, right? What James Gun said right when he took over was he wants to have finished scripts before they start shooting, which I know sounds crazy from a filmmaking perspective, but that is actually sort of an innovation, a step back to what storytelling used to be before.

Pete: Is that a shot at John Favreau and all his amazing improv?

Alex: No, that’s literally a shot at all of Hollywood, is what Justin is saying.

Justin: Exactly.

Alex: Hollywood movies are just rocketing towards the finish line. The script writer is the lowest on the totem pole. They’re writing on the fly. And I don’t think James got his, “No words will change on set.” That’s not what he’s saying here, but he’s literally saying, “Story comes first, idea comes first. We got to get that first, and then we can actually go to the shooting stage.” And I think that comes down to, what we’re bouncing around here a little bit, is he is a creative first, and that’s something- no shade, but that is not something that the DC movies have necessarily had up to this point. It’s been very executive driven in terms of, “We’re doing this plan, this is what we’re doing. We’re pushing this forward. Now let’s bring some people on to actually figure out what the story is.”

So the good news here is that James Gunn and Peter Safran work very well together, apparently. And Peter Safran is the guy who’s taking care of the business, while James Gut is able to talk to the creative people, figure out the stories, work on the casting, all of these other things. And it’s a really good division of labor, I think. So Justin, I believe you brought up how much of a hand they’ve had in this movies. And the other thing that’s been going on here is James Gunn has been very open and transparent about his process to-

Justin: Chatty on Twitter is Dad.

Alex: How does he have time? How does he have time to do all these tweets? I don’t get it. But we do have these movies that are coming out first. So just to read through.

Pete: I hope he has somebody else doing the tweets. You know what I mean?

Justin: Oh, I don’t think so.

Alex: A ghost tweeter?

Pete: Oh, man.

Alex: I mean, I’m worried because it’s like he should be doing so much.

Pete: If he’s on Twitter-

Justin: There’s a lot of downtime in between meetings. You’re in a car, fire off a couple tweets. I don’t think it’s as time-consuming as it seems. It’s just most people in his position would never be that open and available on Twitter.

Alex: How long does it take to write a tweet? Like half an hour, 45 minutes?

Pete: Three hours.

Alex: Something like that? Three hours, yeah.

Justin: The way I do it, it’s like three, four hours. ‘Cause I really, really craft it.

Pete: Oh, it’s got to be.

Alex: Every letter’s got to be just right. Why don’t we talk about these movies? So the first one coming out very soon as Shazam: Fury of the Gods on March 17th, which James Gunn has said about that one, is they didn’t need to change anything. It’s always sort of sat by the side.

Pete: No notes. No notes.

Justin: No notes.

Alex: I mean, the first movie had some shouts out to Batman and Superman. It certainly kind of seemed like Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill. But spoiler, if you haven’t seen the movie, they don’t show up in that movie. They’re not there. So you can pretty easily put that into something else if you want to. The Flash coming out June 16th, that seems to be the big one. That is wrapping up the previous DC extended universe and then kicking into high gear. James Gunn has said-

Pete: Flashpoint.

Alex: It’s Flashpoint. He has said-

Pete: Which, depending on who you ask, is either a great event or a really shitty one.

Alex: Yes. Well, what did you think? Because we are comic book readers, Pete, so what did you think of Flashpoint?

Pete: I’ve never liked Flashpoint. I’ve always felt like it was a weird thing that only lasts for a little bit and then gets undone. So why go through all the emotional stress?

Alex: You just described almost every comic ever published.

Justin: Honestly, almost every event in life, really.

Pete: Oh wow, okay.

Justin: It’s a weird thing that gets undone. Well, I think to say what Flashpoint is, if you haven’t read the comic, The Flash goes back in time.

Pete: Right.

Justin: To stop his mother’s death.

Pete: Cause if you run fast enough, you can go back in time, of course.

Justin: That is something that happens.

Pete: You’ve just got to run faster.

Alex: Yeah. I’m pretty close by the way. I know you guys have been following my training again. I’m getting very fast.

Justin: Honestly, you look at least one minute younger when you finish running, Alex. So the years are just going to drop off. But he goes back, messes up the timeline and that gives them the sort of ability to change the continuity of, in the comic book world, a ton of stuff. And here in the DC universe, perhaps the movie continuity as well.

Pete: Most of-

Alex: And James Gunn said, just to interrupt real quick, James has called this one of the greatest superhero movies ever made, which is high praise. And I almost feel like it’s a little crazy to be like, “Dude, you don’t have any movies or TV shows coming for a while. Why are you staking your reputation on this?” But…

Justin: We’ll see, I guess.

Pete: But also it’s from a kind of person who is maybe a DC fan or whatever, the star got into trouble, so now you’re like, “Oh, do I feel weird about going to see it?” But then they’re like, “Oh, Michael Keaton is fucking Batman.” And now you’re kind of like, “Oh, now I got to go see it. I mean, I don’t really have a choice, but it kind of feels weird to.” It’s really a torn position to be in, because normally you’d just like to be able to go to the movie and enjoy it. But there’s a lot of extra baggage with this.

Alex: Well, I do feel like, doing a DC podcast now, we’ve kind of locked ourselves into seeing it.

Justin: Yeah.

Alex: So that’s choice-

Justin: You probably will see this movie.

Alex: … has been taken away from us.

Justin: Well, and let me say-

Alex: Even with this one- oh, sorry, go ahead Justin.

Justin: I was going to say there’s been so much positive hype on it. To your point, Alex, James Gunn doesn’t have to hype this movie that hard. What he did with, excuse me, with Shazam, I thought, was he was like, “This movie didn’t need to be touched. I’m not touching this movie.” So he sort of says, “This movie’s coming out. I didn’t do a lot here.” So he is being supportive while taking ownership out of it. But The Flash, I feel like he’s thrown his weight behind and said, “See this movie, this movie is the best of the best.” So that’ll be an interesting thing to observe when it comes out, how it does and how good it is just from our perspective.

Alex: And there’s also been a lot of conflicting reports and rumors about things that may or may not have changed, particularly in terms of the ending. Apparently, there’s some cameos of some sort of Batman. There’s a lot of Batmens out there in the universe.

Justin: Batmens.

Alex: So I guess we’ll see what actually ends up on the screen. The next one-

Justin: You think-

Alex: … which you know-

Pete: Wait, do you think we’re going to see George Clooney?

Alex: Why… why? Why would he come back?

Justin: That feels like the least likely. Well, maybe Val is probably the least likely, but I think George is the second least likely. But Arnold Schwarzenegger will be there saying you should see…

Pete: Oh, you think so?

Justin: Hundred percent. Mr. Freeze.

Alex: Ice to meet you. Let’s kick some ice.

Pete: How about Jim Carey? You think we’ll get Jim Carey?

Alex: Yeah, they’re all coming back. All of those characters specifically. Why don’t we move on because there’s a lot of stuff to talk through.

Justin: Fine.

Alex: The next movie out, on August 18th, is Blue Beetle. This is another one. First of all, we don’t know anything about this movie at this point. We haven’t seen any footage, any looks at it or anything like that, but…

Justin: It’s a secret.

Alex: James Gunn said that, yeah, this very much, like Shazam, sits on the side, isn’t affected by anything. So presumably if it does well, they’ll keep with this Blue Beetle going forward. And the last one, which we-

Pete: Wait.

Alex: … not to throw Pete here- what?

Pete: I’m, regardless of the fact that I don’t know anything about- the fact that we’re getting a Blue Beetle movie is awesome. I’m very excited about it. One, the comic is done right, it’s an amazing character and very enjoyable. So I’m very nervously excited for this movie. And hopefully-

Alex: This is a character, for anybody who doesn’t know named Jaime Reyes, who Justin you have called multiple times the Spider-Man of the DC universe.

Justin: He is the Spider-Man of the DC universe. And I think this movie has the potential, if it’s good, to occupy that role in the movie space as well. But this one, the fact that it’s being so held, held so close to the vest makes me worried a little bit about its quality.

Alex: I guess we’ll see what happens with that one. And the last of the old guard is Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom coming out this [inaudible 00:13:07]

Pete: Yeah, come on!

Alex: And-

Pete: Come on!

Alex: There have been, and again, rumor-y so we don’t know, but a lot of troubling reports about it in terms of the movie not being very good at test greetings, them making changes and it getting somehow even worse at test screenings.

Pete: Wow.

Alex: Again, very rumor-y. Who knows? I haven’t seen a test screening. I haven’t seen it, but it is a little troubling…

Pete: It’s going to make it that much better when it’s awesome.

Alex: Yes, and-

Justin: Well, here’s the thing.

Alex: … Oh, go ahead Justin, please.

Justin: I’m sorry. I was just going to say, I did not enjoy the first Aqua Band. I thought it was really confusing and sort of all over the place, but this movie- that movie crushed at the box office, was a huge win.

Alex: Yeah.

Justin: So this may be- but that was back when superhero movies were sort of untouchable at the box office. And as we’ve seen over on the Marvel side of things, that there is some cracks in the facade. So we’ll see if this movie can pop even with its problems.

Alex: So there’s that.

Pete: I’m going to be there.

Alex: That’s the old guard. That’s the stuff that is already made, already coming out. And then we are finally moving into Chapter One, Gods and Monsters. There’s a lot of stuff going on here and not a lot that we know about it, but it’s split into two things. There’s the chapter one, gods and Monsters, and then there’s a couple of things that are being categorized as Elseworlds, things that take place outside this main DC continuity. So James Gunn is very careful to say, “We may not do all of these projects at the end of the day. We may do some different projects. We have other things we’re working on that we haven’t talked about right now.” So this isn’t in order, or the slate that they’re going to be released or anything. This is just the stuff they’ve talked about. The one that seems farthest along, though, surprisingly, is an animated series called Creature Commandos that presumably is going to come out on HBO Max. Seems interesting.

Pete: You had me at animated.

Justin: Really?

Pete: Animated DC project. Yes, please.

Alex: All right.

Justin: Because of your love of Harley Quinn.

Pete: That and Batman, the Animated Series.

Justin: Nice.

Alex: There you go.

Justin: Well, this one’s interesting. It does feel like this one, James Gunn really loves this. He’s worked on, he works on this show and is a creative force in the details of this show, which is cool. The interesting thing about this is they want to have voice actors who are also, will be available to play live action versions of these same characters. Which seems like, if this is their first swing, that’s a wild swing for two reasons. A, it’s hard to find a voice actor who’s good at that, but also great on-screen presence. And B, to say that-

Pete: Kevin Conroy would’ve been amazing, dude.

Justin: But again, he’s an amazing voice actor. But didn’t do a lot of on-camera acting because-

Pete: Well, he was a classically trained actor.

Justin: A hundred percent, no doubt. So the stage, maybe.

Pete: He would’ve killed it.

Justin: I look forward to the Creature Commando stage play that will inevitably come out.

Pete: Here’s my-

Justin: The second thing I was going to say is, to launch with an animated show as your first thing, with the potential to turn it into live action, feels like a strange also first step out into the world.

Alex: It’s backwards, honestly. I love animation too, Pete, don’t get me wrong. Animation is great. I love watching animated shows, but that’s not the way Hollywood works. That’s not the way the entertainment works. We’ve seen it with Marvel. And the animated shows, they have an audience. It’s not as big as the live action audience. It’s the same way. And this frustrates me every time I hear it, but when they’re like “Great news, we’re doing a live action version of Avatar: the Last Airbender,” that’s annoying to me because I love Avatar: The Last Airbender. I don’t need to see this in live action, but it’s a way of furthering the brand, it’s a way of growing it. More people will watch it if it is human people versus cartoon people. It’s an unfortunate way of the world. But I want to throw out a theory to you guys, and I’m going to jump ahead a little bit.

My theory is the first three things that they mentioned, Creature Commandos Waller, which has Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, spinning out of The Suicide Squad, Suicide Squad and Peacemaker where she appeared as well. And then the third project, which is Superman Legacy, which already has a date, July 11th, 2025, which is being written by James Gunn. That’s kind of all we know about another than it is a younger version of Superman than Henry Cavill. My guess is those three projects were already being done.

Justin: Right.

Alex: The reason we’re leading with Creature Commandos is, he was already doing Creature Commandos. We have Waller.

Justin: Yeah.

Alex: Because we already knew he was doing, working on some sort of spinoff of Peacemaker. That’s clearly it. And he’s come out and said that Superman Legacy, there was a earnings call with Warner Brothers Discovery, and David Zaslav said that, yeah, James Gunn was writing Superman Legacy when we brought him on to lead the DC stuff. So that was already in the works at this point. So that is my assumption there.

Justin: That’s a lot of things.

Alex: Well, but that’s my assumption there, why those things are there and maybe why they brought him on because they’re like, “Oh, you have all of these different projects that you’re making. Let’s expand that.”

Justin: Take over.

Alex: Exactly.

Justin: Yeah.

Pete: “You should just take over.”

Justin: And he is a confident, he has big ideas and he executes on them. Like Guardians, Suicide Squad, those movies had no reason to be as great as they were and are.

Pete: Oh, stop. They were great.

Justin: No, that’s what I’m saying. But I’m saying they weren’t built to be the lead tent pole movies of these huge companies and they are. This year, Guardians has to succeed and I think it will for Marvel. And Suicide Squad, they made two of those faster than they made a ton of other projects over at DC. And with Superman, he’s maybe going to direct it as well, right? Isn’t that- that’s not been fully confirmed or anything, but that’s a huge swing for him as again, the first big movie property for the new relaunch.

Alex: Yeah, we’ll definitely have to see in terms of the whole director-writer thing, how that works out, as well as his other responsibilities. There’s probably a lot more to say about Superman Legacy, but we also have a lot more things to cover, including the next thing on the list is Lanterns, which is a True Detective-style mystery series focusing on Hal Jordan and John Stewart, two Green Lanterns investigating a weird mystery on earth. And James Gunn said, the way that Superman Legacy is the official kickoff of their DCU, Lanterns is going to be the one that kicks off the big story. So lots of questions there. I am a little iffy on the project, to be honest, because the whole thing about Green Lanterns, I think, is they’re flying around space and doing space things. So for them to be-

Pete: Yeah. Space gods.

Justin: Famously.

Alex: Standing in a desert and drinking coffee and eating donuts is something not that exciting to me, but…

Justin: Well, I mean, if this is, again, the big story kickoff, it sort of needs to be good. It needs to be great. This is an idea, though, that feels great when you hear it, it’s like, “Oh, that’s cool,” but in execution, I can’t even imagine what it is. Are they going to be just on earth and occasionally making a little sword with their rings, or are they going to be ending up in space and making big, big light, big green light projects with their rings?

Alex: Well, I will throw out there, I think Justin, you mentioned this on one of our other podcasts, but of the creative brain trust, this feels like a Tom King idea.

Justin: Yeah.

Alex: Because doing something, if you folks listening don’t know Tom King, his go-to for comics is taking cheery, bright DC Comics characters and getting to the core of them emotionally and putting them through the ringer with dark, very grounded situations. So I think that’s potentially what we’re going to get here. I think that was a good call you made on an entirely different podcast.

Justin: Well, that’s, we’re here to collect the calls. This is a take pile here on DC stuff. The other thing about this is, for those of you who aren’t reading comics, Hal Jordan, John Stewart are two, sort of, by the book heroes. To partner them together is like, to use the straight cop-crazy cop paradigm, is like two straight cops being like, “No, I’m following the rules more than you are, sir.”

Pete: It’s a rules off.

Justin: It’s a rules off. And I’m not saying they’re the same character, but there’s the same energy. And you would think there’d be a little bit of the, to use True Detective, the Woody-McConaughey paradigm here. You need someone who’s in and someone who’s out. There’s something. So I’m curious how they’re going to play this out or if there’ll be another character that gets added to it.

Pete: Maybe it’ll be like a young John Stewart and- you know what I mean? It’ll be like a passing of the guard type of situation.

Justin: It could be like a two- if they de-age John Stewart a little bit, or age up Hal Jordan, that could change the dynamic in a good way. That’s a good call.

Pete: And is Ryan Reynolds going to do it?

Justin: Definitely.

Alex: Definitely. 100%. Another big swing they have coming up is the Authority, which is the adaptation-

Pete: Oh, man.

Alex: … of a Wild Storm comic that has since been brought into the DC continuity about a superhero team that essentially is doing what the title says. They are not waiting for stuff, they’re proactive. They get to the point where they’re basically doing whatever they want in the world. Not necessarily taking it over, but not waiting for the threats to come to them. They’re big, they’re bold, they’re brash. They have two of Pete’s favorite characters, Midnighter and Apollo, in there.

Pete: Yes.

Alex: Are you excited to see that on screen, Pete?

Pete: I am. I think there has been a great run of comics with Authority that have been really, really well received. So I think that this is a smart move and if done well could be a real big hit. So I’m excited.

Justin: This is also a surprising first thing to do here for DC, because the Authority, when it was created, is sort of was sort of a Justice League analog in another universe. They are sort of a more extreme Justice League that becomes proactive and a little like Minority Report, for the old Tom Cruise movie, where they’re being more aggressive with their crime fighting. So it was about seeing that the big ideas of what happens if a big superhero team goes too far. And the fact that they’re now going to be alongside Superman, and the rest of the Justice League potentially, feels a little strange. And also a lot of- Apollo, Midnight are our Superman and Batman. So what happens there?

Pete: I mean, not…

Justin: I’m not saying they’re the same, but they’re just, they’re similar, right?

Pete: There’s some similar qualities.

Alex: I hear what you’re saying. The Authority was definitely brought up as a comment on other superhero comics. Curious to see how they do it in the movies. Another one that is an interesting project that, to be perfectly honest with you, I am doubtful we’ll ever see the light of day is Paradise Lost, which is a Game of Thrones style show set on Themyscira, the home of Wonder Woman. The reason I am a little doubtful about this one is that is a very big, bold idea that the comics have tried a lot of times and every single time the comics try it, they’re like, “Yeah, let’s just kind of veer off into the Wonder Woman stuff,” and then “Oops, she’s off Themyscira,” and we don’t focus on that at all. So it just feels like the sort of thing to me that, in theory, is maybe a great idea and to understand why they’re going for it, but when they actually try to jot it down and plot it out, I just don’t know if it’s going to work.

Justin: Well, especially to do something that’s like Game of Thrones. What, are you going to do seven seasons of this? That feels like such a big thing when we really- what are the odds? Are we not going to see a Young Wonder Woman here? Or some sort of version of what of Wonder Woman? Like that’s what everybody wants. Especially since Wonder Woman, it was a huge hit for DC years past. If we’re not going to see of that Wonder Woman, Pete, do you want to see everyone else but Wonder Woman?

Pete: Yeah, I know. I mean, it would be great to, I mean, because there’s so many great comics about Themyscira and all the different stuff that’s on it and all the training and- Sorry, is there a barge going by you, Justin? Are you all right?

Justin: Sorry, I’m at sea.

Pete: That makes sense.

Alex: The other thing that I’ll throw out there, and we’re about to get to The Batman movie in a second. They’ve got a Superman movie. They got two Batmans, who we briefly talked about the first Batman. They’re going to have a second Batman and Wonder Woman. They’re like, “If you love Wonder Woman, here’s a series that she’s not in.”

Justin: Yeah, you’re going to love her relatives.

Alex: And that that’s weird to me. I mean, maybe they are stealth developing a Wonder Woman reboot as well, but I wish they had come out of the gate with that. That would’ve gotten me a little more excited if they had that main trinity. But let’s talk about the Brave and the Bold, which again, another bit of a swerve here was bait on Grant Morrison’s Batman and Robin Run. It is teaming up Batman with his jerk son, Damian Wayne. I can’t wait. This is a weird move.

Justin: Great.

Alex: But I love Damian. One of our favorite characters.

Pete: Damian’s great.

Alex: Very excited to see how they do this.

Justin: Well, and it’s exciting, the idea of seeing Batman frustrated by something he has to love, his son. We’ve never seen that dynamic and it feels like finally we can shake up the sort of dowdy, doomed Batman portrayals we’ve seen year after year, which are great, but I think we’re exhausted by that a little bit.

Alex: It is. Just to jump back really quickly, and this is just getting into wild theories, but you got the Brave and the Bold is Batman and his son, Superman Legacy is the name of the movie and so there’s been some speculation, maybe this is Superman with his son, John Kent.

Pete: Super Sons.

Alex: That would also be weird. I love the Super Sons, like Pete’s calling out, but the idea of they’re like, “We’re rebooting this whole universe and also Batman and Superman are dads.” That’s a strange place to start that. And I say that as a dad, it’s weird.

Pete: Well, if they’re setting up-

Justin: I’m a dad.

Pete: Super Sons is a-

Alex: Our dad is a dad, but we can’t tell you who he is.

Justin: That’s right.

Pete: If we’re, I mean, Supers Sons is a huge hit in the comic books world. I would love to see it in live action. And I agree Damian and Batman, that kind of relationship would be really amazing to see on the big screen or if they did a TV show of it or whatever. But man, I don’t know. That’s, that’s very exciting stuff.

Alex: Then we got Booster Gold, which is another TV show. If you don’t know Booster Gold, he’s a guy for the far future who steals a bunch of technology, travels back to our time and uses it to pretend to be a super powered superhero. That to me, that’s a no brainer. That works as a TV show. I get that, I get that concept. Doesn’t even need to be connected to anything else, so I’m very happy to see this one.

Justin: It feels like this could be a great comedy, a great action comedy, if they do it right, which has been hard to pull off in this superhero space, I feel like.

Alex: And then here’s a big exciting one that ties back to Tom King that we’ve named jacked several times in this podcast, but Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, based on the book by Tom King, excuse me, and Bilquis Evely, this… Who knows how they’re going to do it in the movie forum, but basically Supergirl, it’s very old-timey, high adventure. Her going to various planets on a mission of revenge with a young ward who is writing all about her adventures. It’s a phenomenal book if you haven’t checked it out.

Pete: Beautiful.

Alex: Another one that I can’t wait to see how they do on screen.

Justin: Yeah, it was sort of a fantasy, almost, like a space fantasy, you could say. Had some Xena: Warrior Princess energy to it with the-

Pete: Absolutely, yeah.

Justin: … the way the characters were. So it could be fun.

Pete: I agree. Yeah, it was a stellar comic. If they even get close to how great that was, they will definitely do well.

Alex: And the last one that’s part of this announced DCU slate so far is Swamp Thing, which is going to be a straight horror movie, I believe. I don’t know if he’s officially signed, but James Mangold, who directed the new Indiana Jones movie, also directed Logan, is going to be directing it. Seems like a good choice.

Justin: It’s funny how many swings Swamp Thing is has gotten in the multimedia world, because it’s sort of like who’s died first? Who’s like, “Swamp Thing, I love Swamp Thing.” Comic book fans, of course, love the Alan Moore Swamp Thing. There’s been a lot of great Swamp Thing runs. But to be like-

Pete: I grew up in the eighties, dude, I love the TV show.

Justin: I watched that TV show. That show, gave it a re-watch, not great. It’s like re-watching old He-Man episodes, it’s like, “Yeah, this was a long commercial that I was fooled into think-“

Alex: It’s good point, Justin. It was very funny seeing people’s response to this slate, and maybe it’s because it was the last thing they mentioned, but I saw so many tweets being like, “Oh my God, a Swamp Thing horror movie. I can’t believe it. I’ve waited my whole life for this.” And I was like, there’s 87 episodes of the TV- two TV shows, multiple movies. What are you talking about? One of them was directed and written by Wes Craven. Anyway, it’s fine. It’ll be good. Just, it’s another Swamp Thing.

Justin: Well, I do think maybe the excitement is about the idea of a true horror superhero movie. ‘Cause we don’t get a lot of those that are that work and I think horror’s having such a moment right now, in the last few years, for movies in general. So to actually pair that together could be something that people are genuinely into.

Alex: And now let’s move over to the Elseworlds stuff. There’s only a couple of things that have been officially designated as Elseworlds. There are other DC movies and TV shows. For example, Superman and Lois is one. We know that James Gunn has commented, could probably go on for another season or two, presumably that would fall under Elseworlds, but I don’t believe he’s given a specific statement about that. But we do know Joker 2: Folie à Deux, coming out October 24th, 2024. That is under the Elseworlds designation. The Batman part two, which we mentioned is coming out October 3rd, 2025. They’re very excited about the fact that they’re going to have a Superman movie and a Batman movie coming out in the same year, which cool.

Justin: It is cool.

Alex: Before that, we have The Penguin, the TV series that spins off, I believe it takes a place a week or a month after The Batman part one, I guess we’re calling it now. And it leads directly into The Batman part two starring Colin Farrell. Presumably we’ll see a lot of other characters from the world, but that’s pretty exciting. And a couple of other wild projects. One that everybody thought was dead, but is not, is Constantine Two, starring Keanu Reeves, is still a go, apparently. Wild.

Justin: That seems wild. Yeah.

Alex: Yeah.

Justin: Don’t know.

Alex: And another one I was very surprised to hear about, particularly because they were talking about, even though they have multiple Batmans, they’re like, “we’re trying to simplify this universe.” Ta-Nehisi Coates has been working on a take on Superman, particularly the President Superman, the black president Superman version of the character, for JJ Abrams. That is apparently still in the works somewhere. So we might actually have two-

Pete: He’s an amazing writer. He’s done amazing things.

Justin: Yeah.

Alex: Fantastic. It’s just weird to me to have these multiple- multiple Batmen, I can kind of wrap my head around because that is the one DC property that consistently does well at the box office. But Superman has always struggled. So…

Justin: Yeah.

Alex: I don’t know. We’ll see what happens.

Justin: Well, it’s also interesting because that Superman, president Superman, is a multiverse Superman from one of the different timelines.

Pete: And Superman hasn’t always struggled. They made four or five of them. You know what I mean? It was doing well.

Alex: But box office, they’ve never really broken out. I believe the most profitable Superman movie, if I remember correctly… I don’t think it’s Man of Steel. I think it’s Batman v. Superman. And even that one didn’t crack a billion dollars, which is sort of, ridiculously, the low water mark for blockbuster movies at this point..

Pete: But think about it, like that changed the game. You no longer start a fight until you’ve asked who somebody’s mom is. You know what I mean? I mean that…

Alex: Especially our case, you who ask your dad is, and then realize you’re all the same, have the same dad, and you start a podcast.

Justin: That’s how we met, is we didn’t realize we were triplets until we got in a bar fight and we’re like, wait, is your… is your dad? It’s crazy, it’s a crazy story.

Pete: What’s your dad’s name?

Alex: I’ll tell you what, it’s a real great Muppet caper situation.

Justin: Yeah, it was crazy. But anyway, the idea of the Ta-Nehisi Coates movie, like feels like it gestures toward the multiverse, something that Marvel is doing and potentially struggling with. Not to call that too soon. So I’m curious how they will frame this movie in relation to the others, because DC has been able to get away with like, “No, no, these are just different Batmen. No, no, no. It’s all fine. Don’t think about it too much.”

Alex: And the last one that they said is definitively in Elseworlds is Teen Titans Go, which great. Keep Teen Titans Go going forever. It’s a silly, goofy, fun show. I’m excited to see more of it. Again, there’s a lot of question marks, Harley Quinn, the animated series, I think everybody would love to see that keep going.

Pete: Yeah.

Alex: Also, Peacemaker season two, we don’t necessarily know about that, even though that’s a James Gunn project. Presumably he’s going to want to do that at some point. But I guess we’ll see. But overall, that’s what we have going right now. Surely there is more to come on this podcast. What we’re going to be doing is a couple of things. I mentioned this earlier, but first, we’re going to be doing re-watches. We’re going to be re-watching, or in some cases, first time watching of the DC movies as we lead into the stuff that is either coming out over the course of the next year or in this slate. So for example, our next episode will be a re-watch slash watch of Shazam leading into Shazam: Fury of the Gods. And then leading up The Flash, we’re going to try to watch all the Michael Keaton Batman movies. Maybe we’ll watch Justice League, I guess we’ll see what happens there. That should be interesting. Snyder version? Which version?

Pete: I’m not watching, no.

Justin: Let’s not get crazy.

Pete: No, no, no, no.

Alex: I’m going to watch both. I’m got to watch both. And the gray version. Justice is gray as well. All three. Just to get the proper perspective.

Justin: You got to.

Alex: We’re going to do all that. The other thing we’re going to be doing is some required reading. These are things that are suggested by James Gunn, or maybe by our copious experience of reading comic books, but we’re going to look back on the books that they’re basing this stuff on, like Absolute Authority, the Alan Moore Swamp Thing we mentioned earlier, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, and a couple of other things like that. So should be a fun time.

If you would like to subscribe to this podcast. This episode is the first episode, of course, so we’re just going to be getting the feed started. But presumably you should be able to subscribe everywhere pretty soon to Sons of Gunn, a DC podcast. Also, you can follow us regularly. We do a live show, as mentioned, every Tuesday night at 7:00 PM to YouTube and Facebook. Comic Book Club Live, come check that out. We would love to talk to you about the DC stuff. @comicbooklive on Twitter, Comic Book Club Live on TikTok and Instagram, comicbookclublive.com for this podcast and many more. And until next time, love you, dad.

Justin: Love you, dad. We’ll see you. Let’s see you for dinner. Keep working hard. Stay off Twitter.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of March 1, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

The Human Target #12
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Greg Smallwood

Rogue & Gambit #1
Marvel
Written by Stephanie Phillips
Art by Carlos Gómez

Phantom Road #1
Image Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Gabriel H. Walter

Shazam: Fury of the Gods Special – Shazamily Matters #1
DC Comics
Written by Zachary Levi, D.J. Cotrona and Colleen Doran, Faith Herman and Amanda Deibert, Tim Seeley, David F. Sandberg and Scott Kolins, Ross Butler and Josh Trujillo, Grace Caroline Currey, Adam Brody and Kenny Porter, Henry Gayden
Art by Freddie Williams II, Erica Henderson, Jorge Corona, Scott Kolins, Andrew Drilon, Damian Fulton, Mike Norton, Scott Godlewski

Hallows Eve #1
Marvel
Written by Erica Schultz
Art by Michael Dowling

Skull and Bones: Savage Storm #1
Image Comics
Written by John Jackson Miller & James Mishler
Art by Christian Rosado

Stargirl: The Lost Children #4
DC Comics
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Todd Nauck

Murderworld: Game Over #1
Marvel
Written by Jim Zub and Ray Fawkes
Art by Netho Diaz, Lorenzo Tammetta

Buffy The Last Vampire Slayer Special #1
BOOM! Studios
Written by Casey Gilly
Art by Joe Jaro, Maria Keane, Lea Caballero

Sandman Universe: Dead Boy Detectives #3
DC Comics
Written by Pornsak Pichetshote
Art by Jeff Stokely

I Am Iron Man #1
Marvel
Written by Murex Ayodele
Art by Dotun Amanda

Where Monsters Lie #2
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Piotr Kowalski

Blue Beetle: Graduation Day #4
DC Comics
Written by Josh Trujillo
Art by Adrián Gutiérrez

Cosmic Ghost Rider #1
Marvel
Written by Stephanie Phillips
Art by Juan Cabal, Jonas Scharf

Radiant Black #22
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins
Art by Eduardo Frigate & Zé Carlos

The Riddler: Year One #3
DC Comics
Written by Paul Dano
Art by Stevan Subic

Spider-Man: Unforgiven #1
Marvel
Written by Tim Seeley
Art by Sid Kotian

I Hate This Place #6
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Artyom Topilin

Action Comics #1052
DC Comics
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Dan Jurgens, Leah Williams
Art by Rafa Sandoval, Lee Weeks, Marguerite Sauvage

Spider-Gwen: Shadow Clones #1
Marvel
Written by Emily Kim
Art by Ken Zama

Koshchei in Hell #3
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Mike Mognola
Art by Ben Stenbeck

Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty #10
Marvel
Written by Jackson Lanzing & Collin Kelly
Art by Carmen Carnero

Breath of Shadows #2
IDW
Written by Rich Douek
Art by Alex Cormack

Spider-Man #6
Marvel
Written by Dan Slott
Art by Mark Bagley

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On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guests Micol Ostow and Jamie Rotante (Archie Comics “Betty: The Final Girl”) + Claire Napier (Zoop’s “The Magic Necklace”)!

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of February 22, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Superman #1
DC Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Jamal Campbell

Betsy Braddock: Captain Britain #1
Marvel
Written by Tini Howard
Art by Vasco Georgiev

Blue Book #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Michael Avon Oeming

Local Man #1
Image Comics
Written by Tim Seeley
Art by Tony Fleecs, Tim Seeley

New Mutants: Lethal Legion #1
Marvel
Written by Charlie Jane Anders
Art by Enid Balám

Lazarus Planet Omega #1
DC Comics
Written by Mark Waid, Gene Luen Yang
Art by Riccardo Federici and Mike Perkins, Billy Tan

X-O Manowar: Unconquered #1
Valiant
Written by Becky Cloonan and Michael W. Conrad
Art by Liam Sharp

Tower #1
A Wave Blue World
Written by Campus Johnson & Kelsey Barnhart
Art by ChrisCross

The Amazing Spider-Man #20
Marvel
Written by Joe Kelly
Art by Terry Dodson

Batman: One Bad Day – Clayface #1
DC Comics
Written by Collin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing
Art by Xermânico

Black Cloak #2
Image Comics
Written by Kelly Thompson
Art by Meredith McClaren

Damn Them All #5
BOOM! Studios
Written by Simon Spurrier
Art by Charlie Adlard

Deadpool #4
Marvel
Written by Alyssa Wong
Art by Martin Coccolo

Wonder Woman #796
DC Comics
Written by Becky Cloonan and Michael W. Conrad, Jordie Bellaire
Art by Amancay Nahuelpan, Paulina Ganucheau

Junkyard Joe #5
Image Comics
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Gary Frank

Once Upon a Time at the End of the World #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Alexandre Tefenkgi

Planet Hulk: Worldbreaker #4
Marvel
Written by Greg Pak
Art by Manuel Garcia

Nightwing #101
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor, C.S. Pacat
Art by Travis Moore, Eduardo Pansica

Radiant Pink #3
Image Comics
Written by Meghan Camarena & Melissa Flores
Art by Emma Kubert

Specs #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by David M. Booher
Art by Chris Shehan

Doctor Strange: Fall Sunrise #4
Marvel
By Tradd Moore

GCPD: The Blue Wall #5
DC Comics
Written by John Ridley
Art by Stefano Raffaele

Undiscovered Country #23
Image Comics
Written by Scott Snyder and Charles Soule
Art by Giuseppe Camuncoli and Leonardo Marcello Grassi

Something is Killing the Children #29
BOOM! Studios
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Werther Dell’edera

Punisher: War Journal – Base #1
Marvel
Written by Torunn Grønbekk
Art by Djibril Morissette-Phan

DCeased: War of the Undead Gods #6
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Trevor Hairsine

Inferno Girl Red #2
Image Comics
Written by Mat Groom
Art by Erica D’Urso

Youth Season 3 #2
Comixology
By Curt Pires

She-Hulk #10
Marvel
Written by Rainbow Rowell
Art by Takeshi Miyazawa

Immortal Sergeant #2
Image Comics
Written by Joe Kelly
Art by Ken Niimura

The Ones #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Brian Michael Bendis
Art by Jacob Edgar

Superman: Space Age #3
DC Comics
Written by Mark Russell
Art by Mike “Spike” Allred

Ice Cream Man #34
Image Comics
Written by W. Maxwell Prince
Art by Martín Morazzo

Hellboy in Love #3
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Christopher Golden
Art by Matt Smith

Immoral X-Men #1
Marvel
Written by Kieron Gillen
Art by Paco Medina

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On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guests Justin Ciardullo (“The Ballad of Gia & Frankie”) + Erik Radvon (“LadyDarke”)!

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Ant-Man (and the Wasp) are back for another adventure in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, and we’re breaking down all the big moments and Easter eggs in the kick-off to MCU Phase 5. How was Jonathan Majors as Kang? Does Michael Douglas like ants? And does Kathryn Newton’s Cassie know how to run and shout “Dad!”? We discuss all this and more in our spoiler-filled Ant-Man 3 podcast.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of February 15, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Avengers Forever #14
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Jim Towe

Torrent #1
Image Comics
Written by Marc Guggenheim
Art by Justin Greenwood

Icon Vs. Hardware #1
DC Comics
Written by Reginald Huddling and Leon Chills
Art by Denys Cowan and Yasmín Florez Montañez

Fantastic Four #4
Marvel
Written by Ryan North
Art by Iban Coello

Rockstar and Softboy Go To Space #1
Image Comics
By Sina Grace

Lazarus Planet: Dark Fate #1
DC Comics
Written by Tim Seeley, Dennis Culver, A.J. Kaplan, Alyssa Wong
Art by Baldemar Rivas, Chris Burnham, A.J. Kaplan, Haining

The Invincible Iron Man #3
Marvel
Written by Gerry Duggan
Art by Juan Frigeri

What’s The Furthest Place From Here #11
Image Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Tyler Boss

Danger Street #3
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Jorge Fornés

Murderworld: Moon Knight #1
Marvel
Written by Jim Zub and Ray Fawkes
Art by Luca Pizzari

The Last Barbarians #1
Image Comics
Written by Brian Haberlin with Hannah Wall
Art by Brian Haberlin

Swamp Thing: Green Hell #2
DC Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Doug Mahnke

Mary Jane & Black Cat #3
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by Vincenzo Carratù

Hexware #3
Image Comics
Written by Tim Seeley
Art by Zulema Scotto Lavina

Wasp #2
Marvel
Written by Al Ewing
Art by Kasia Nie

Shirtless Bear-Fighter #7
Image Comics
Written by Jody Leheup
Art by Nil Vendrell

Nightcrawlers #1
Marvel
Written by Simon Spurrier
Art by Paco Medina

Eight Billion Genies #7
Image Comics
Written by Charles Soule
Art by Ryan Browne

Wolverine #30
Marvel
Written by Benjamin Percy
Art by Juan José Ryp

The Dead Lucky #6
Image Comics
Written by Melissa Flores
Art by French Carlomagno

The Vampire Slayer #11
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art by Hannah Templer

Art Brut #3
Image Comics
Written by W Maxwell Prince
Art by Martín Morazzo

Mosely #2
BOOM! Studios
Written by Rob Guillory
Art by Sam Lofty

I Hate Fairyland #4
Image Comics
Written by Skottie Young
Art by Brett Bean

House of Slaughter #12
BOOM! Studios
Written by Tate Brombal
Art by Antonio Fuso

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On this week’s live podcast recording, we’re interviewing guests Rich Davis (“Prometheus in Chains”) + Cici Affini (“Mythfall”)!

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of February 8, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Static: Shadows of Dakota #1
DC Comics
Written by Nikolas Draper-Ivey and Vita Ayala
Art by Nikolas Draper-Ivey

Red Goblin #1
Marvel
Written by Alex Paknadel
Art by Jan Bazaldua

Monarch #1
Image Comics
Written by Rodney Barnes
Art by Alex Lins

Harrower #1
BOOM! Studios
Written by Justin Jordan
Art by Brahm Revel

Lazarus Planet: Next Evolution #1
DC Comics
Written by Ram V, Brandon T. Snider, Chuck Brown, Delilah S. Dawson
Art by Lalit Kumar Sharma, Laura Braga, Alitha Martinez, Brandt & Stein

Bishop: War College #1
Marvel
Written by J. Holtham
Art by Sean Damien Hill

Know Your Station #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art by Liana Kangas

The Amazing Spider-Man #19
Marvel
Written by Joe Kelly
Art by Terry Dodson

Two Graves #4
Image Comics
Written by Genevieve Valentine
Art by Annie Wu

Alien #6
Marvel
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson
Art by Julius Ohta

Gotham City: Year One #5
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Phil Hester

Space Job #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by David A. Goodman
Art by Álvaro Sarraseca

Gospel #4
Image Comics
By Will Morris

Miracleman: The Silver Age #4
Marvel
Written by Neil Gaiman
Art by Mark Buckingham

The Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing #5
DC Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Carmine Di Giandomenico, Francesco Francavilla

Stranger Things: Tales From Hawkins #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Jody Houser
Art by Caio Filipe

All Against All #3
Image Comics
Written by Alex Paknadel
Art by Caspar Wijngaard

Daredevil #8
Marvel
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Marco Checchetto

Batman #132
DC Comics
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Mike Hawthorne, Miguel Mondonça

Koshchei in Hell #2
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Mike Mignola
Art by Ben Steinbeck

Blood Stained Teeth #9
Image Comics
Written by Christian Ward
Art by Patric Reynolds

Storm and the Brotherhood of Mutants #1
Marvel
Written by Al Ewing
Art by Paco Medina

Poison Ivy #9
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson
Art by Marcio Takara

It’s Only Teenage Wasteland #3
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Curt Pires
Art by Jacoby Salcedo

Little Monsters #10
Image Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Dustin Nguyen

Secret Invasion #4
Marvel
Written by Ryan North
Art by Francesco Mobili

Batman and The Joker: The Deadly Duo #4
DC Comics
By Marc Silvestri

Spy Superb #2
Dark Horse Comics
By Matt Kindt

Namor: The Sub-Mariner – Conquered Shores #5
Marvel
Written by Christopher Cantwell
Art by Pasqual Ferry

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On this week’s live show, we’re joined by guests Ari Gross (“Awakening”) + Cam Kerkau (Zoop’s “Gilgamesh”) to talk – get this – comics!

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of February 1, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Star Wars: Sana Starros #1
Marvel
Written by Justina Ireland
Art by Pere Pérez

The Flash: One-Minute War Special #1
DC Comics
Written by Jeremy Adams
Art by Fernando Pasarin, Serge Acuña, Lisandro Estherren, George Kambadais

Almighty #1
Image Comics
By Edward Laroche

Avengers #65
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Javier Garrón

Where Monsters Lie #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Piotr Kowalski

Bloodline: Daughter of Blade #1
Marvel
Written by Danny Lore
Art by Karen S. Darboe

Lazarus Planet: Legends Reborn #1
DC Comics
Written by Alex Segura, Alex Paknadel, Greg Pak, Dennis Culver
Art by Clayton Henry, Christopher Mitten, Minkyu Jung, Jesús Marino

Blood Tree #1
Image Comics
Written by Peter J. Tomasi
Art by Maxim Šimić

Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty #9
Marvel
Written by Collin Kelly and Jackson Lanzing
Art by Carmen Carnero

Breath of Shadows #1
IDW Publishing
Written by Rich Douek
Art by Alex Cormack

Silver Surfer: Ghost Light #1
Marvel
Written by John Jennings
Art by Valentine De Landro

DC Power: A Celebration #1
DC Comics
Written by Evan Narcisse, Lamont Magee, Stephanie Williams, Brandon Thomas, Dorado Quick & Jordan Clark, Morgan Hampton, Chuck Brown, John Ridley, N.K. Jemisin
Art by Darryl Banks, Chriscross, Alitha Martinez, Natasha Bustos, Clayton Henry, Valentine De Landro, Patterson Oliveira, Olivier Coipel, Jamal Campbell

Radiant Black #21
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Higgins
Art by Marcelo Costa & Eduardo Ferigato

Scarlet Witch #2
Marvel
Written by Steve Orlando, Stephanie Williams
Art by Sara Pichelli, Chris Allen

Young Hellboy #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Mike Mignola and Thomas Sniegoski
Art by Craig Rousseau

Demon Wars: Down in Flames #1
Marvel
By Peach Momoko

DC’s Harley Quinn Romances #1
DC Comics
Written by Alexia Quasarano, Zipporah Smith, Amanda Deibert, Frank Allen, Raphael Draccon and Carolina Manhóz, Greg Locker, Jessica Berbey, Ivan Cohen
Art by Max Sarin, Will Robson, Adriana Melo, John McCrea, Ig Guara, Greg Locker, Priscilla Petraites, Fico Ossio

Rogue Sun #10
Image Comics
Written by Ryan Parrott
Art by Marco Renna

The Approach #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jeremy Haun and Jason A. Hurley
Art by Jesús Hervás and Lea Caballero

Dark Web: Finale #1
Marvel
Written by Zeb Wells
Art by Adam Kubert & Francesco Mortarino with Scott Hanna

Batman: Legends of Gotham #1
DC Comics
Written by Andy Diggle
Art by Karl Mostert

Minor Threats #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Patton Oswalt and Jordan Blum
Art by Scott Hepburn

Star Trek #4
IDW Publishing
Written by Collin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing
Art by Ramon Rosana & Oleg Chudakov

Briar #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Christopher Cantwell
Art by Germán García

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of January 25, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Sins of Sinister #1
Marvel
Written by Kieron Gillen
Art by Lucas Werneck

Batman: One Bad Day – Catwoman #1
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson
Art by Jamie McKelvie

Inferno Girl Red #1
Image Comics
Written by Erica D’urso
Art by Mat Groom

Lazarus Planet: We Once Were Gods #1
DC Comics
Written by Francis Manapul, Dan Watters, Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Josie Campbell
Art by Francis Manapul, Max Dunbar, Jack Herbert, Caitlin Yarsky

The Amazing Spider-Man #18
Marvel
Written by Zeb Wells
Art by Ed McGuinness

Archie Vs. The World #1
Archie Comics
Written by Aubrey Sitterson
Art by Jed Dougherty

Once Upon a Time at the End of the World #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Alexandre Tefenkgi

Thor #30
Marvel
Written by Torunn Grønbekk
Art by Nic Klein

Justice Society of America #2
DC Comics
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Mikel Janín, Jerry Ordway and Scott Kolins

Darkwing Duck #1
Dynamite
Written by Amanda Deibert
Art by Carlo Lauro

Dead Seas #2
IDW
Written by Cavan Scott
Art by Nick Brokenshire

Murderworld: Wolverine #1
Marvel
Written by Jim Zub and Ray Fawkes
Art by Carlos Nieto

Action Comics #1051
DC Comics
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Dan Jurgens, Leah Williams
Art by Rafa Sandoval, Lee Weeks, Marguerite Sauvage

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Last Ronin – Lost Years #1
IDW Publishing
Written by Kevin Eastman & Tom Waltz
Art by SL Gallant and Ben Bishop

Behold Behemoth #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by Tate Brombal
Art by Nick Robles

Doctor Strange: Fall Sunrise #3
Marvel
By Tradd Moore

The Human Target #11
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Greg Smallwood

Youth Season 3 #1
Comixology
Written by Curt Pires
Art by Alex Diotto

Hell To Pay #3
Image Comics
Written by Charles Soule
Art by Will Sliney

All-Out Avengers #5
Marvel
Written by Derek Landy
Art by Greg Land

Blue Beetle: Graduation Day #3
DC Comics
Written by Josh Trujillo
Art by Adrián Gutiérrez

Rick & Morty #1
Oni Press
Written by Alex Firer
Art by Fred C. Stressing & Gina Wynbrandt

Junkyard Joe #4
Image Comics
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Gary Frank

X-Terminators #5
Marvel
Written by Leah Williams
Art by Carlos Gómez

The Sandman Universe: Dead Boy Detectives #2
DC Comics
Written by Pronsak Pichetshote
Art by Jeff Stokely

Hitomi #4
Image Comics
Written by HS Tak
Art by Isabella Mazzanti

Damn Them All #4
BOOM! Studios
Written by Simon Spurrier
Art by Charlie Adlard

Gargoyles #2
Dynamite
Written by Greg Weisman
Art by George Kambadias

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On this week’s live show we’re welcoming back guest Matt Kindt to discuss his new Dark Horse Comics books “Spy Superb”, “Hairball” and more.

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of January 18, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Nightwing #100
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Bruno Redondo, Scott McDaniel, Rick Leonardi, Eddy Barrows, Javier Fernandez, Mikel Janín

Wasp #1
Marvel
Written by Al Ewing
Art by Kasia Nie

Immortal Sergeant #1
Image Comics
Written by Joe Kelly
Art by Ken Niimura

The New Champion of Shazam #4
DC Comics
Written by Josie Campbell
Art by Evan “Doc” Shaner

Punisher #9
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Jesús Saiz and Paul Azaceta

White Savior #1
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Eric Nguyen and Scott Burman
Art by Eric Nguyen

Lazarus Planet: Assault on Krypton #1
DC Comics
Written by Nicole Maines, C.S. Pacat, Frank Barbiere, Leah Williams
Art by Skylar Patridge, Scott Godlewski, Sami Basri, Marguerite Sauvage

The Invincible Iron Man #2
Marvel
Written by Gerry Duggan
Art by Juan Frigeri

Kroma #3
Image Comics
By Lorenzo de Felici

The Vampire Slayer #10
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art by Hannah Templer

Batman – One Bad Day: Bane #1
DC Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Howard Porter

Namor: The Sub-Mariner – Conquered Shores #4
Marvel
Written by Christopher Cantwell
Art by Pasqual Ferry

Art Brut #2
Image Comics
Written by W. Maxwell Prince
Art by Martín Morazzo

Stargirl: The Lost Children #3
DC Comics
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Todd Nauck

Deadpool #3
Marvel
Written by Alyssa Wong
Art by Martin Coccolo

Shirtless Bear-Fighter 2 #6
Image Comics
Written by Jody Leheup
Art by Nil Vendrell

Fables #157
DC Comics
Written by Bill Willingham
Art by Mark Buckingham

Avengers Forever #13
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Aaron Kuder

Old Dog #3
Image Comics
By Declan Shalvey

The Flash #791
DC Comics
Written by Jeremy Adams
Art by Roger Cruz

Dark Web: X-Men #3
Marvel
Written by Gerry Duggan
Art by Rod Reis & Phil Noto

I Hate Fairyland #3
Image Comics
Written by Skottie Young
Art by Brett Bean

GCPD: The Blue Wall #4
DC Comics
Written by John Ridley
Art by Stefano Raffaele

Hulk #11
Marvel
By Ryan Ottley

Hexware #2
Image Comics
Written by Tim Seeley
Art by Scotto Lavina

The House of Slaughter #11
BOOM! Studios
Written by Tate Brombal
Art by Antonio Faso

Alien #5
Marvel
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson
Art by Julius Ohta

What’s The Furthest Place From Here? #10
Image Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Tyler Boss

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On this week’s live broadcast, we’re welcoming guest Eddie Klinker (“Space Pilots”)!

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It’s a Riverdale After Dark special report as we react to the news of the Riverdale Season 7 premiere and series finale dates. That’s right: Riverdale Season 7 premieres on Wednesday, March 29 at 9pm ET, and the series finale airs on Wednesday, August 23 at 9pm ET. Plus, we break down the new synopsis for Riverdale Season 7, and what it might mean for the beloved residents of The Town With Pep.

Riverdale Season 7 synopsis:

The seventh season of RIVERDALE goes where no season of RIVERDALE has dared to go before—the 1950s! Picking up where last season ended, Jughead Jones (Cole Sprouse) finds himself trapped in the 1950s. He has no idea how he got there, nor how to get back to the present. His friends are no help, as they are living seemingly authentic lives, similar to their classic Archie Comics counterparts, unaware that they’ve ever been anywhere but the 1950’s. Archie Andrews (KJ Apa) is the classic all-American teen, coming of age, getting into trouble, and learning life-lessons; Betty Cooper (Lili Reinhart) is the girl next door, starting to question everything about her perfect life—including her controlling mother Alice (Madchen Amick); Veronica Lodge (Camila Mendes) is a Hollywood starlet who moved to Riverdale under mysterious circumstances; Cheryl Blossom (Madelaine Petsch) is the Queen Bee with a withering wit and a secret longing; Toni Topaz (Vanessa Morgan) is an activist fighting for the Black students of recently integrated Riverdale High; Kevin Keller (Casey Cott) is a “square” crooner wrestling with his sexual identity; Reggie Mantle (Charles Melton) is a basketball star from farm country; and Fangs Fogarty (Drew Ray Tanner) is a greaser who’s destined to be an Elvis-type star. It isn’t until Jughead is visited by Tabitha Tate (Erinn Westbrook)—Riverdale’s Guardian Angel—that he learns the cosmic truth about their predicament. Will Jughead and the gang be able to return to the present? Or will our characters be trapped in the 1950’s forever? And, if so…is that such a bad thing?

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On this week’s Stack podcast for the week of January 11, 2023, we’ve got new comic book reviews for:

Lazarus Planet Alpha #1
DC Comics
Written by Mark Waid, Gene Luen Yang
Art by Ricardo Federici, Billy Tan

Predator #6
Marvel
Written by Ed Brisson
Art by Kev Walker

Black Cloak #1
Image Comics
Written by Kelly Thompson
Art by Meredith McClaren

Spy Superb #1
Dark Horse Comics
By Matt Kindt

Wonder Woman #795
DC Comics
Written by Becky Cloonan and Michael W. Conrad, Jordie Bellaire
Art by Amancay Nahuelpan, Paulina Ganucheau

The Avengers: War Across Time #1
Marvel
Written by Paul Levitz
Art by Alan Davis

Two Graves #3
Image Comics
Written by Genevieve Valentine
Art by Ming Doyle

The Human Target #10
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Greg Smallwood

The Amazing Spider-Man #17
Marvel
Written by Zeb Wells
Art by Ed McGuinness

Mary Jane & Black Cat #2
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by Vincenzo Carratú

Dark Web: Ms. Marvel #2
Marvel
Written by Sabir Pirzada
Art by Francesco Mortarino

Gospel #3
Image Comics
By Will Morris

The Flash #790
DC Comics
Written by Jeremy Adams
Art by Roger Cruz

Miles Morales: Spider-Man #2
Marvel
Written by Cody Ziglar
Art by Federico Vicentini

Dark Ride #4
Image Comics
Written by Joshua Williamson
Art by Andrei Bressan

Batman and The Joker: The Deadly Duo #3
DC Comics
By Marc Silvestri

Daredevil #7
Marvel
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Rafael De Latorre & Marco Checchetto

The Dead Lucky #5
Image Comics
Written by Melissa Flores
Art by French Carlomagno

Specs #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by David M. Booher
Art by Chris Shehan

Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur #2
Marvel
Written by Jordan Ifueko
Art by Alba Glez

Danger Street #2
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Jorge Fornés

Blood Stained Teeth #8
Image Comics
Written by Christian Ward
Art by Patric Reynolds

Something is Killing the Childern #28
BOOM! Studios
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Werther Dell’edera

Monica Rambeau: Photon #2
Marvel
Written by Eve L. Ewing
Art by Ivan Fiorelli & Luna Maresca

Ten Thousand Black Feathers #5
Image Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Andrea Sorrentino

Know Your Station #2
BOOM! Studios
Written by Sarah Gailey
Art by Liana Kangas

Wolverine #29
Marvel
Written by Benjamin Percy
Art by Juan José Rep

All Against All #2
Image Comics
Written by Alex Paknadel
Art by Caspar Wijngaard

The Ones #3
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Brian Michael Bendis
Art by Jacob Edgar

Little Monsters #9
Image Comics
Written by Jeff Lemire
Art by Dustin Nguyen

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On this week’s live podcast recording, we’re welcoming guests Kelly Thompson & Meredith McClaren (Image Comics “Black Cloak”) + Kraig Rasmussen (Zoop’s “Odds & Ends”).

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Everything comes together on the midseason finale of Doom Patrol, titled “Hope Patrol”. The cult of Immortus prepares for him to rise by kidnapping Larry, but it’s Vic — and maybe Jane and Cliff — to the rescue. Meanwhile, Rita and Madame Rouge try to free a man named Wally from the Bureau of Normalcy, as we recap Doom Patrol Season 4, Episode 6.

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Peter Parker comes swinging into the MCU as we revisit Tom Holland’s first feature length adventure, Spider-Man: Homecoming, with guest Tara Bennett. Years later, does the Jon Watts directed movie hold up? How about that Michael Keaton Vulture reveal? And what’s the future of Spider-Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? We break it all down with a woman who literally wrote the book on it.

Tara Bennett’s The Story of Marvel Studios: The Making of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is available in bookstores everywhere, or at Amazon.

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On this week’s Stack podcast, we’ve got a ton of new comic book day reviews for you. Check out the full list of new comics for January 4, 2023 below:

Scarlet Witch #1
Marvel
Written by Steve Orlando
Art by Sara Pichelli

Mosely #1
BOOM! Studios
Written by Rob Guillory
Art by Sam Lofti

Batman #131
DC Comics
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Mike Hawthorne, Miguel Mendonça

Shang-Chi: Master of the Ten Rings #1
Marvel
Written by Gene Luen Yang
Art by Michael Yg

Scotch McTiernan’s Holiday Party
Image Comics
Written by Gerry Duggan & Brian Posehn
Art by Scott Koblish

Poison Ivy #8
DC Comics
Written by G. Willow Wilson
Art by Atagun Ilhan

Joe Fixit #1
Marvel
Written by Peter David
Art by Yildiray Çinar

Radiant Pink #2
Image Comics
Written by Meghan Camarena & Melissa Flores
Art by Emma Kubert

The Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing #4
DC Comics
Written by Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Carmine Di Giandomenico and Francesco Francavilla

The Avengers #64
Marvel
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Javier Garrón

It’s Only Teenage Wasteland #2
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Curt Pires
Art by Jacoby Salcedo

Planet Hulk: Worldbreaker #3
Marvel
Written by Greg Pak
Art by Manuel Garcia

Gotham City: Year One #4
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Phil Hester

Fantastic Four #3
Marvel
Written by Ryan North
Art by Iban Coello

The Approach #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jeremy Haun and Jason S. Hurley
Art by Jesús Hervás and Lea Caballero

Secret Invasion #3
Marvel
Written by Ryan North
Art by Francesco Mobili

Dark Knights of Steel #9
DC Comics
Written by Tom Taylor
Art by Yasmine Putri

Spider-Man #4
Marvel
Written by Dan Slott
Art by Mark Bagley

Stillwater #17
Image Comics
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Ramón K. Perez

Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty #8
Marvel
Written by Jackson Lanzing & Collin Kelly
Art by Carmen Carnero

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On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guests Adam Gagnon (“Social Studies”) and Louis Southard (Zestworld “Villains Seeking Hero”)!

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The frickin’ Guardians of the Galaxy are back, only we didn’t say frickin’ as we recap Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 on our Marvel rewatch podcast with guest Richard Newby. When Peter Quill meets his father, Ego (played by Kurt Russell), the Guardians head back to his planet to discover whether this swaggering Celestial is for real. From personal connections to the movie, to how it fits in with the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, as well as Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, we’ve got you covered.

You can check out Richard Newby’s Marvel writing on THR.

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The team becomes teenagers with a twist as we recap Doom Patrol Season 4, Episode 5 “Youth Patrol” on our podcast. When Rita realizes she’s lost her immortality, an errant spell turns everyone back, mentally, to their teenage selves; and only Willoughby Kipling can help them out. Meanwhile, Larry bonds with his new friend and explores his past.

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On this week’s Stack podcast, we’re not only reviewing the regular rundown of weekly comic books, we’re also revealing some of our favorite original graphic novels and trade collections of 2022.

Here’s the rundown of books we reviewed that came out this week:

Timeless #1
Marvel
Written by Jed MacKay
Art by Greg Land, Jay Leisten, Patch Zürcher & Salvador Larroca

The Sandman Universe: Dead Boy Detectives #1
DC Comics
Written by Pornsak Pichetshote
Art by Jeff Stokely

Book of Slaughter #1
BOOM! Studios
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Werther Dell’edera

Murderworld: Spider-Man #1
Marvel
Written by Jim Zub & Ray Fawkes
Art by Farid Karami

John Stewart: The Emerald Knight #1
DC Comics
Written by Geoffrey Thorne
Art by Marco Santucci

Mighty Morphin’ Power Rangers/Teenage Mutant ninja Turtles II #1
BOOM! Studios/IDW
Written by Ryan Parrott
Art by Dan Mora

The Amazing Spider-Man #16
Marvel
Written by Zeb Wells
Art by Ed McGuinness

Tales from Earth-6: A Celebration of Stan Lee #1
DC Comics
Written by Michael Uslan, Mark Waid, Stephanie Williams, Becky Cloonan & Michael W. Conrad, Kenny Porter, Collin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing, Zac Thompson, Meghan Fitzmartin, Steve Orlando, Jerry Ordway
Art by Lee Weeks, Kevin Maguire, Belén Ortega, Pablo M. Collar, Karl Mostert, Juan Ferreyra Hayden Sherman, Anthony Marques, Max Dunbar, Jerry Ordway

Once Upon a Time at the End of the World #2
BOOM! Studios
Written by Jason Aaron
Art by Alexandre Tefenkgi

Miracleman #3
Marvel
Written by Neil Gaiman
Art by Mark Buckingham

Action Comics #1050
DC Comics
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Tom Taylor and Joshua Williamson
Art by Mike Perkins, Clayton Henry and Nick Dragotta

The Roadie #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Tim Seeley
Art by Fran Galán

Venom #14
Marvel
Written by Al Ewing
Art by Bryan Hitch

The Riddler Year One #2
DC Comics
Written by Paul Dano
Art by Stevan Subic

Plush #2
Image Comics
Written by Doug Wagner
Art by Daniel Hillyard

She-Hulk #9
Marvel
Written by Rainbow Rowell
Art by Takeshi Miyazawa

The Nice House on the Lake #12
DC Comics
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Álvaro Martínez Bueno

Frankenstein: New World Order #4
Dark Horse Comics
Written by Mike Mignola, Christopher Golden and Thomas Sniegoski
Art by Peter Bergting

X-Terminators #4
Marvel
Written by Leah Williams
Art by Carlos Gómez

Tim Drake: Robin #4
DC Comics
Written by Meghan Fitzmartin
Art by Riley Rossmo

Damn Them All #3
BOOM! Studios
Written by Simon Spurrier
Art by Charlie Adlard

Harley Quinn #25
DC Comics
Written by Stephanie Phillips
Art by Matteo Lolli & David Baldeón

All-Out Avengers #4
Marvel
Written by Derek Landy
Art by Greg Land

DC vs. Vampires #12
DC Comics
Written by James Tynion IV and Matthew Rosenberg
Art by Otto Schmidt

Dark Web: X-Men #2
Marvel
Written by Gerry Duggan
Art by Rod Reis & Phil Noto

Wonder Woman Historia: The Amazons #3
DC Comics
Written by Kelly Sue DeConnick
Art by Nicola Scott

Doctor Strange: Fall Sunrise #2
Marvel
By Tradd Moore with Jennie Eckwall

Blue Beetle: Graduation Day #2
DC Comics
Written by Josh Trujillo
Art by Adrián Gutiérrez

…and our picks for best graphic novels and trade collections of 2022, in no particular order:

It’s Lonely at the Centre of the Earth
Image Comics
By Zoe Thorogood

Ducks: Two Years in the Oil Sands
Drawn and Quarterly
By Kate Beaton

Clementine, Book One
Image Comics
By Tillie Walden

The Night Eaters: She Eats The Night
Harry N. Abrams
Written by Marjorie Liu
Art by Dana Takeda

Enter The Blue
Z2 Comics
By Dave Chisholm

Salamandre
Berger Books
By I.N.J Culbard

Fantastic Four: Full Circle
Harry N. Abrams
By Alex Ross

The Many Deaths of Laila Starr
BOOM! Studios
Written by Ram V
Art by Felipe Andrade

Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by Bilquis Evely

Six Sidekicks of Trigger Keaton: Volume One
Image Comics
Written by Kyle Starks
Art by Chris Schweizer

A Righteous Thirst for Vengeance, Volume 1 and 2
Image Comics
Written by Rick Remender
Art by André Lima Araújo

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Last Ronin
IDW Publishing
Story by Kevin Eastman, Peter Laird and Tom Waltz
Script by Kevin Eastman and Tom Waltz,
Pencils and Inks by Esau Escort, Ben Bishop, Isaac Escorza and Kevin Eastman

Karmen
Image Comics
By Guillem March

The Nice House on the Lake, Volume 1
DC Comics
Written by James Tynion IV
Art by Alvaro Martinez Bueno

Batman: Killing Time
DC Comics
Written by Tom King
Art by David Marquez

The Me You Love in the Dark
Image Comics
Written by Skottie Young
Art by Jorge Corona

Newburn, Volume 1
Image Comics
Written by Chip Zdarsky
Art by Jorge Corona

Made in Korea
Image Comics
Written by Jeremy Holt
Art by George Schall

Black Widow: Die By The Blade
Marvel
Written by Kelly Thompson
Art by Rafael de Latorre, Elena Casgrande, Rafael Pimentel

Home Sick Pilots Volume 3: Three Chords and the End of the World
Image Comics
Written by Dan Watters
Art by Caspar Wjingaard

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On the last live Comic Book Club of 2022, we’re welcoming guest Kyle Starks to talk about his upcoming book from Dark Horse Comics, “Where Monsters Lie”. Plus, we’re revealing our picks for Best Comic Books of 2022!

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The Best Comic Books of 2022:

  1. That Texas Blood
    Image Comics
    Written by Chris Condon
    Art by Sean Phillips

  2. Ice Cream Man
    Image Comics
    Written by W. Maxwell Prince
    Art by Martín Morazzo

  3. Catwoman: Lonely City
    DC Comics
    By Cliff Chiang

  4. I Hate This Place
    Image Comics
    Written by Kyle Starks
    Art by Artyom Topilin

  5. Superman: Son of Kal-El
    DC Comics
    Written by Tom Taylor
    Art by John Timms, Cian Tormey et al

  6. Deadly Class
    Image Comics
    Written by Rick Remender
    Art by Wes Craig

  7. Wonder Woman Historia: The Amazons
    DC Comics
    Written by Kelly Sue DeConnick
    Art by Gene Ha, Nicola Scott

  8. The Closet
    Image Comics
    Written by James Tynion IV
    Art by Gavin Fullerton

  9. DC vs. Vampires
    DC Comics
    Written by James Tynion IV, Matt Rosenberg
    Art by Otto Schmidt

  10. The Massive-verse
    Image Comics

  11. Nightwing
    Image Comics
    Written by Tom Taylor
    Art by Bruno Redondo et al

  12. Punisher
    Marvel
    Written by Jason Aaron
    Art by Jesus Saiz, Paul Azaceta

  13. Rain
    Image Comics
    Written by David M. Booher
    Based on the story by Joe Hill
    Art by Zoe Thorogood

  14. The Human Target
    DC Comics
    Written by Tom King
    Art by Greg Smallwood

  15. Do A PowerBomb!
    Image Comics
    By Daniel Warren Johnson

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Powered by RedCircle We’re back with another special episode of Riverdale After Dark, interviewing Co-Executive Producer and Director Gabriel Correa. What’s it like to direct on Riverdale, particularly with key episodes like FP’s birthday (aka the Choni sex scene episode), the goodbye to Fred Andrews, the Jughead Paradox and the Season 6 finale? And more […]

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Most of the team goes on vacation and things go predictably wrong as we recap Doom Patrol Season 3, Episode 2 “Vacay Patrol”. After the death of Niles Caulder, Rita blobs out and the gang decides to head to a remote resort. There, Cliff, Cyborg, Jane and Rita meet Garguax, an alien tasked with killing […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast: Wakanda #1 Marvel Written by Stephanie Williams, Evan Narcisse Art by Paco Medina, Natacha Bustos Batman Incorporated #1 DC Comics Written by Ed Brisson Art by John Timms Once & Future #30 BOOM! Studios Written by Kieron Gillen Art by Dan Mora Hack/Slash: Hot Shorts #1 Image […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guest Matt Lesniewski (“Faceless and the Family”)! SUBSCRIBE TO MARVELVISION ON APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR RSS. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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Powered by RedCircle Somebody’s getting married as we recap The Umbrella Academy Season 3, Episode 8 “Wedding At The End Of The World” on our podcast. With Luther and Sloane deciding to spend their last few hours alive tying the knot, it’s up to what’s left of the Umbrella and Sparrow Academies to make their […]

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Powered by RedCircle Marvel goes full horror for its first ever Special Presentation, Werewolf By Night, bringing spooky terror — and fun — just in time for Halloween. In the hour, we meet Jack Russell, played by Gael García Bernal, Elsa Bloodstone, played by Laura Donnelly, and Man-Thing, played by Ted. We discuss all the […]

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Powered by RedCircle The hero everyone has been waiting for finally arrives on She-Hulk Episode 8, “Ribbit And Rip It”: Leap-Frog. Oh, also, Daredevil shows up. When Jen is hired to take on Luke, she comes face to face in the courtroom with Matt Murdock; and then has a classic superhero mix-up with Charlie Cox’s […]

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The Season 3 premiere of Doom Patrol is here, but first the team needs to wrap up Season 2 on “Possibilities Patrol”. Dorothy deals with the ramifications with her showdown with the Candlemaker, leading to a big decision. Meanwhile, Jane has a showdown of her own with Miranda in the Underground. And everyone else has […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s packed Stack podcast: Spider-Man #1 Marvel Written by Dan Slott Art by Mark Bagley Dark Ride #1 Image Comics Written by Joshua Williamson Art by Andrei Bressan The Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing #1 DC Comics Written by Matthew Rosenberg Art by Carmine di Giandomenico, Francesco Francavilla Unbreakable […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live comic book podcast, we’re welcoming guests Ryan Silbert and Luke Lieberman (“Alliances: Orphans”) + Mathew Klickstein (Fantagraphics “See You At San Diego: An Oral History of Comic-Con, Fandom, And The Triumph Of Geek Culture”). SUBSCRIBE TO MARVELVISION ON APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR RSS. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, […]

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Powered by RedCircle The combined Academies finally come up with a plan to stop the Kugelblitz as we recap The Umbrella Academy Season 3, Episode 7 “Auf Wiedersehen”. As the Umbrella and Sparrow Academies decide to work together, it leads to even more friction between Allison and Viktor. Meanwhile, Lila grapples with her revelation about […]

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Powered by RedCircle She-Hulk heads to Emil Blonsky’s retreat as we recap She-Hulk Episode 7 “The Retreat” on our Marvel podcast. After a good date ghosts her, Jen gets recruited to track down whether Blonsky has Abomination-ed out again. Instead, she finds a supervillain support group… And maybe gets help herself. From El Aguila, to […]

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It’s time for the Season 2 finale of Doom Patrol as the team heads to the carnival to stop the Candlemaker on “Wax Patrol”. With Dorothy’s imaginary friend out of control, Cliff, Larry, Rita and Cyborg have to face down their own imaginary friends. Meanwhile, Jane is trapped in the underground, and learns a disturbing […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s comic book review podcast: Tim Drake: Robin #1 DC Comics Written by Meghan Fitzmartin Art by Riley Rossmo Onyx One Shot Image Comics Created and Produced by Chris Ryall and Gabriel Rodriguez The Roadie #1 Dark Horse Comics Written by Tim Seeley Art by Fran Galán Dark Spaces: Wildfire […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live show, we’re welcoming guests Blaise Hemingway, Writer; Bryan Unkeless, Producer; Bryce Anderson, Production Executive (“Runner”) + Joe Corallo (“The Never Ending Party”). SUBSCRIBE TO MARVELVISION ON APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR RSS. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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Powered by RedCircle Viktor decides to solve this Harlan situation once and for all as we recap The Umbrella Academy Season 3, Episode 6 “Marigold”. While Allison and Viktor head off to see if Harlan can help train Viktor, Luther is getting some training of his own at the Sparrow Academy. Diego and Lila end […]

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Powered by RedCircle It’s a self-contained wedding episode with no Daredevil as we recap She-Hulk Episode 6, “Just Jen”. Jennifer Walters heads off to a friend’s wedding — guest star Patti Harrison — but discovers she doesn’t want She-Hulk, she wants a human. When Titania shows up, though, Jen is put through her paces. Meanwhile, […]

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Fathers take the spotlight with all the Daddy issues you might expect as we recap Doom Patrol Season 2, Episode 8 “Dad Patrol”. Niles gives Dorothy one last special day at the carnival, but Dorothy’s impending womanhood throws a wrench in the works. Meanwhile, Cyborg and Rita team up to track down Roni. Larry takes […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack: Creepshow #1 Image Comics Written by Chris Burnham, Paul Dini and Stephen Langford Art by Chris Burnham, John McCrea X-Terminators #1 Marvel Written by Leah Williams Art by Carlos Gomez Harley Quinn 30th Anniversary Special #1 DC Comics Written by Amanda Conner & Jimmy Palmiotti, Paul Dini, Rafael […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s live podcast recording, we’re welcoming guests Declan Shalvey (Image Comics “Old Dog”) + Mike Speer (“CWL”)! SUBSCRIBE TO MARVELVISION ON APPLE, ANDROID, SPOTIFY, STITCHER, OR RSS. FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK. SUPPORT OUR SHOWS ON PATREON.

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Powered by RedCircle Reeling from the revelation of the Kugelblitz, both the Umbrella and Sparrow Academies try to figure out what’s next as we recap The Umbrella Academy Season 3, Episode 5 “Kindest Cut”. And in the midst of this, Allison does something to Luther that she might not be able to come back from. […]

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Powered by RedCircle Jen takes on Titania in the courtroom as we recap She-Hulk Episode 5, “Mean, Green and Straight Poured Into These Jeans”. With Titania opening a beauty line in She-Hulk’s name, it’s up to Mallory Book to help get the hero’s name back. Meanwhile, Pug and Nikki to set her up with a […]

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Everyone dares to be stupid as we recap Doom Patrol Season 2, Episode 7 “Dumb Patrol”. After Larry, Miranda, Cyborg and Roni release an infestation of Scants, they need to travel back into the white space painting to beat the queen and get their brains back. Meanwhile, Cliff walks home after his space journey, Rita […]

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Powered by RedCircle On this week’s Stack podcast: Batman vs. Robin #1DC ComicsWritten by Mark WaidArt by Mahmud Asrar Midnight Suns #1MarvelWritten by Ethan SacksArt by Luigi Zaharia Ten Thousand Black Feathers #1Image ComicsWritten by Jeff LemireArt by Andrea Sorrentino Vampirella: Mindwarp #1DynamiteWritten by Jeff ParkerArt by Benjamin Dewey The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive […]

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