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The best collection of podcasts and voices in the Human Resources, Recruiting, Technology, DEI, and Workforce space in one podcast. Welcome to Evergreen's HR Collection, curated episodes from the most well-known and up-in-coming podcasts in the HR, Recruiting, and Tech industry. Ten different shows wrapped into one diverse podcast. 

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During this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with their friend, Sarah Morgan about conferences overall and a wonderful summit she is hosting in October. The HROI (Human Return on Investment) Summit is going to be an amazing event with practical advice from HR practitioners who don't just know the ideas, they show you how to implement it in your own organization.

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Changes in learning, the role of AI and how advanced technology could make it all more dynamic.

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The way we describe work and jobs is mostly by long-standing assumptions that have been in place since the Industrial Revolution. The world is now a very different place, and the employers breaking free of our ingrained mindsets around jobs and recruiting are giving themselves considerable talent market advantage.

My guest this week is one of my favourite thinkers around the reinvention of work. Dart Lindsley is Strategic Advisor for People Experience at Google. Dart believes that rather than being seen as resources or units of production, employees are actually customers of a product we call work. There are some vast implications for talent acquisition here, and this is a must-listen for anyone developing a strategic plan for the future.

In the interview, we discuss:

How we should be looking at work

The legacies of the industrial age

A multi-sided business

Business architecture

Employees as customers, not as units of production

The implications for HR

Bringing marketing thinking to HR

Market research, product market fit and route to market

Work as a subscription model

A land and expand sales motion

Job to be done theory

How do recruitment marketing and employer branding need to evolve

A different data model for describing work

The implications of AI

What does the future look like?

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What a start-up calls itself usually says a lot about it. It can also say a lot about its prospects for future success. Enter Skillit, a company that connects the supply of skilled workers with contractor demand in the $1.6 trillion annually construction industry through its platform for sourcing, skills assessment, hiring, and training. And you thought a name like Skillit would be serving Grand Slam breakfasts at your favorite brunch spot, didn’t you? Nope, and Fraser Patterson, founder, and CEO of the company is on Firing Squad to tell you why he’s the next big thing? Hey, we’ll be the judge of that, pal. Listen and reveal Skillit’s fate.

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This week: Ceipal integrates ChatGPT, PowertoFly adds candidate search, Diversely's acquired by the Access Group, and more.

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Earlier in the summer, I collaborated with the SmartRecruiters team to interview four fantastic practitioners who spoke on The Hiring Without Boundaries stage at RecFest in London. We recorded the conversations backstage at the event, and this is the third of three podcast episodes where I will be sharing them.

Talk about generative AI is everywhere, but most of the conversation is either inflating the hype or dealing with highly tactical short-term techniques and use cases. So, how can TA Leaders think about AI strategically to embrace current opportunities and plan effectively for the future?

My next RecFest guest is Ben Handyside, Director of Talent Acquisition EMEA at Colliers International. Colliers have recognized that ChatGPT was already being used by many people within their organization and are harnessing the advantages to boat innovation and make TA a key strategic driver of value.

In the interview, we discuss:

Challenging barriers and boundaries to access new talent

The forces driving change in TA

TA as a strategic enabler

Acknowledging AI utilization, understanding the risk, and establishing guidelines

The risk of doing versus the risk of not doing

Use cases and experimentation.

Creating more time for human interactions

Managing adoption

Planning for the AI-driven future

Understanding the problem you are trying to solve.

Speed as a strategic lever

Advice to TA Leaders

What will the role of the recruiter be like in ten years?

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How businesses keep up with change, hiring for AI (it's not easy), and designing HR’s strategies to use advanced technology.

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🎧 Tune in to the latest episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, where we dive deep into the world of inclusive design and equity-centered practices with our special guest, Sheryl Cababa. 🌍💙

Join us as Sheryl, a former business analyst turned advocate for inclusive solutions, shares her unique insights and passion for taking things one step further to foster a more inclusive world. 🌟 From leveraging design thinking and human-centered design to integrating systems thinking into the design process, Sheryl offers invaluable knowledge on how to create impactful and sustainable solutions for complex issues. 🚀

Discover the power of broad stakeholder involvement and the importance of prioritizing user experience over cost and ease of implementation when designing software and learning management systems (LMSs). 📚

Prepare to be inspired as Sheryl sheds light on the benefits of inclusive online learning, elevating student voices, and serving historically underserved communities in education. 🎒👩‍🏫✨

With engaging anecdotes, thought-provoking insights, and a commitment to tackling equity challenges head-on, this episode will leave you motivated to design a better, more inclusive world for everyone. 🌈✊

Don't miss out on this inclusive conversation! Hit that play button now and join the movement 💪🎙️ #InclusiveAFPodcast #DesignForEquity #HumanCenteredDesign #SystemsThinking #EducationForAll #InclusiveOnlineLearning #StudentVoices #EquityMatters #InclusiveDesign #TacklingChallenges

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Summer is winding down and Europeans are coming down from their holiday highs, so it’s a great time to drop some knowledge bombs from the Old Country. Staffing agencies are under fire for what politicians say is price-gauging customers in return for placements in the healthcare space. The care may be subsidized in Europe, but the placements are capitalism at its best (or worst). A toxic combination. A little Who’d Ya' Rather? follows, pitting 11x AI against Borderless. Weird names, but interesting businesses. Who wins? Gotta listen. A story out of Italy closes out the show with a new story about ending benefits for thousands of families and individuals deemed "fit to work.”

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Unemployed American workers are experiencing a massive case of job-hunt burnout, Ceipal released its VMS, Procurewise, and more.

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In the past, we’ve been critical of SHRM investing money into startups. Seems like a big conflict of interest, but whatever. Since SHRM isn’t running to talk to Chad & Chelsea about it, how about the next best thing: The company SHRM gave money? That’s why we brought Jocelyn King, CEO of VirgilHR to the show. VirgilHR is an interactive technology that lets employees ask HR compliance questions in real-time. Seems like a company ripe for disruption from the likes of ChatGPT, but you’d be wrong (or at least that’s what Jocelyn says). The way that they chose their name is pretty cool too. Heck, it’s an all-around banger of an interview. Enjoy.

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Employees are asking more questions about the meaning and purpose of their work.

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Earlier in the summer, I collaborated with the SmartRecruiters team to interview four fantastic practitioners who spoke on The Hiring Without Boundaries stage at RecFest in London. We recorded the conversations backstage at the event, and this is the second of three podcast episodes where I will be sharing them.

It's an unprecedented time of disruption in talent acquisition. Economics, demographics, and technology are driving seismic shifts in how companies think about hiring. With the pace of change continuing to increase, the most successful TA functions will be the ones that adapt the quickest.

My second RecFest guests are Lindsey Stone, Group Head of Talent Attraction & Resourcing at Greene King, and Eric Houwen, Head of Talent Acquisition & Employer Branding at Deloitte in The Netherlands. Although they work for two very different types of business, there are a lot of interesting commonalities in Eric and Lindsey's approach to TA transformation.

In the interview, we discuss:

The forces driving change in TA

Employability and Social Mobility

Shifting workforces

Evolving talent acquisition

What skills does a TA team now need?

Developing a consultative approach

Positioning TA to drive value for the business

The role of technology

How do you take your people with you?

What will the role of the recruiter be in 10 years?

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This week on TRF we cover:

When you realize your children are genetically predisposed to Monster Trucks, Serge shares some fun facts about his Guinness World Book of Records status.

Shout out to TD Insurance! They earned a 5-star review from Shelley.

The final word on fixing the gender pay gap from our perspective.

Both TA & L&D leadership roles are predominantly held by women according to a global survey of 600,000 in HR. Added bonus, the career paths for each will surprise you.

In the news   LinkedIn rolls out ID verification in Canada - and its free.

If it feels like there are more cars on the road, there are. 4 out of 5 employees drive to work, exceeding the number of commuters to levels in 2016.

Tip of the Week

Know who your talent competitors are. Research outside of your industry to understand the choices job seekers have. 

Recruiting Insights

Practical advice on ways to prove you have a culture of opportunity. Beyond single step promotions, the definition of opportunity can be defined at different points in your career.

Survey said, “40% of Hiring Managers admit lying to candidates”, we go deeper to explain why recruiters believe the number is much bigger.

This needs to be mandatory on everyone’s interview guide. Ask this simple question and you will easily separate the mediocre from the great people managers.  

Events

TRF Will be broadcasting live from Plum.io booth at HRTech in Las Vegas October October 11th and 12th.

TRF Live on the disrupt stage at Recfest in Nashville 13th -14th September.

DisruptHR Halifax September 13th.

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Earlier in the summer, I collaborated with the SmartRecruiters team to interview four fantastic practitioners who spoke on The Hiring Without Boundaries stage at RecFest in London. We recorded the conversations backstage at the event, and this is the first of three podcast episodes where I will be sharing them.

Hiring for frontline retail positions has always been a challenge, but since the pandemic, it is a challenge that has increased exponentially. So how does an expanding retail group fill 30,000 roles a year at pace while ensuring a high-quality candidate experience that reflects the fact that their candidates are literally their customers?

My first RecFest guest is Adam Reynolds, Head of Talent at Frasers Group. Frasers Group is a multi-brand international retail chain, and Adam and his team have used technology to transform their TA strategy to meet the needs of the business in a very tough talent market.

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting challenges

Growing hiring exponentially

Urgency, pace, and velocity

Getting stakeholder buy-in

Quality communication at scale

Automation without being robotic

Storytelling

The fundamental role of technology

Ratios and data

Talent pooling silver medallists

How will the role of the recruiter evolve in an AI-driven future?

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Employees love to be recognized. It’s not just promotions and big deals, however. We’re talkin' birthdays, anniversaries, adopting a cat, everything. OK, maybe not a cat adoption, but you know what we mean. That’s why we brought Aaron Rubens, cofounder and CEO at Kudoboard to the show. He runs the online workplace appreciation solution for special occasions, shout outs, and everything in between, helping to replace the card that’s passed around and signed on birthdays, holidays, and special occasions for generations. Crazy thing is, they’re crushing it. To find out why - and how - you gotta listen.

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It’s a rare breed of professional that has worked on the vendor side of HR tech, as well as the TA practitioner side. So, when we got the opportunity to chat with Josh Rock, currently Talent Acquisition Manager at Nuss Truck, and former executive at JobDig, LinkUp and CollegeRecruiter, we jumped at the chance. Recorded at SHRM, it’s a candid conversation about the industry from both sides of the fence.

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Being a Global Head of TA in 2023 is highly challenging. Dealing with disrupted talent markets and global hiring nuances while building a consistent approach to candidate experience and stakeholder relations and keeping on top of emerging technology trends is complex, to say the least. 

My guest this week is Chet Ritchie, VP of Global Talent Acquisition at Manulife. Chet is driving a TA strategy based on transparent relationship management and a core, common, and custom approach to the critical elements of recruiting and employer branding. 

In the interview, we discuss:

Demographic shifts and talent market dynamics

The importance of hiring manager and stakeholder relations

A personalized and engaging candidate experience

Providing feedback throughout the process

Structuring a global team

Core, Common, and Custom

The role of technology

Showing humanity through the recruiting process

Leveraging data for talent intelligence and process optimization

What does the future of TA look like

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This week was all over the map. After less than a year on the job, iCIMS' CEO is stepping down in a rather unexpected way, the EEOC settled its first AI-based hiring discrimination case, Recruiter.com sold some IP to Job Mobz (who?), college degrees lose more luster, tech jobs remain strong after layoffs from Big Tech throughout 2023 and chatbots continue to have their fans, as well as their detractors. Oh, and robotaxis are invading San Francisco. The summer may be starting to wind down, but the recruiting news remains red hot! Enjoy, Like and Share!

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This week on TRF we cover:

August has been a weird month so far. Both of us had unpleasant encounters with nature invading our personal space. Picture bugs and mice in the house.

Would you expect to pay more because of your gender? We weren't sure how to feel about an event designed to attract women into IT that charged men more to attend.

Amazon continues to fall from grace - we may see the A in FANG removed due to their continued blunders in how they treat their employees.

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HR Tech - Las Vegas Oct 10-13

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Indeed reports 50% decline in paid ads

Tutoring firm settles a claim alleging their recruiting algorithm was ageist - we suspect other wise.

The US job market continues to cool - but not really, its just returning to pre-pandemic levels.

Tip of the Week

The tool of last resort, the Sign On Bonus. When, how much and why to use it as bait

Recruiting Insights

Roblox redefines early career recruiting! They offer a 3D immersive experience for potential employees - brilliant

Asking ChatGPT to spot red flags on resume, in the wrong hands, this will spell disaster. Experienced recruiters will need to teach it what a red flag really is. 

TA Tech - deciding on Good, Fast or Cheap. We weigh in on how to define it and when to pick from the 3 options.

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The work-from-home movement is under fire. Jamie Dimon says it’s a productivity issue. Elon Musk says it’s a moral issue. As a result, more and more employers are forcing people back to the office. Even Zoom is bringing people back. The future is uncertain, for sure. That’s why we brought Mary Elkordy, president & CEO at Elkordy Global Strategies to the show. Elkordy Global Strategies is a full-service PR firm, well-versed in influencer marketing, talent integration, social media strategy, strategic communications, and digital marketing. A great guest with a unique perspective on a complicated topic. Enjoy!

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Ever wanted to hear an interview with a former recruiter at Facebook, Apple and Tesla? How about one that’s currently blazing a trail at EV maker Rivian? Well, it’s your lucky day, because Chad & Cheese sat down with Rameen Fattahi, director, recruiting operations & insights at Rivian while they were all at iCIMS Inspire to hear Rameen’s story. Don’t worry. Along the way, there are stories about Elon and Zuck.

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The AI needs of small business and how vendors are trying to address them.

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A few short months ago, many commentators predicted that AI would be a revolutionary force in recruitment marketing that would drive automation, efficiency, and engagement. So how does the hype live up to the reality, and what have we learned about how AI and humans need to work together to create effective recruitment marketing?

My guest this week is Kat Kibben, CEO and Founder of Three Ears Media. Kat is a recruitment marketing expert with a focus on job postings. They have some valuable insights and informed opinions on the relationship between recruiters, AI and recruitment marketing.

In the interview, we discuss:

How has recruitment marketing evolved since the pandemic

What is holding AI back

Why marketing and recruitment marketing are not the same jobs

What happens when everyone has access to the same tools

Telling the truth, being unique, and standing out

Training recruiters to be consultative.

Driving a faster hiring process

What makes a great job posting

Are mandatory requirements really mandatory?

Employer branding as an accelerator

Advice for TA leaders on the future of recruitment marketing

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Think you’re having a bad day? It’s probably not as bad as ZipRecruiter’s shareholders had this week. To say times are tough would be an understatement. But it’s not just Zip, as much of the space is having a pretty tough time on Wall Street and just about everywhere else. Dice. Recruit. All bad. Not dire enough? Want some more dogs-and-cats living together scenarios? Zoom employees are going back to the office (yeah, that Zoom), WeWork is more like WeOuttabiz, everyday Americans are beating up UberEats' rolling automated coolers, Elon is still loco, America doesn’t have enough semiconductor talent to support the Chips Act and fake women are becoming more popular than real women. Grab a bottle of your favorite whiskey for this one. Things are gettin' gettin', gettin' kinda hectic.

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The amount of technology available to TA teams has exploded, and innovation is moving so rapidly that it is almost impossible to keep up. In a world driven by shiny objects syndrome taking a long-term strategic view when it comes to TA technologies is crucial. However, the challenges around this are considerable and are not just about the amount of choice. TA leaders need access to specialist skills to help them make the right decisions and, simultaneously, need to ensure their voice is heard within the business around tech procurement.

My guest this week is Rob Cohen, TA Ecosystem Manager at Philip Morris International. Rob has the kind of role I can see becoming more common in TA Teams in the future. He is a genuine technology expert who sits outside the IT function and is responsible for all the technology that touches candidates and helps recruiters do their job. Rob has some fascinating insights on technology strategy, TA tech stacks, and the AI-driven future, making this an absolute must-listen interview.

In the interview, we discuss:

The importance of Talent Acquisition owning its own tech

Skills and stakeholders

Translating business needs into tech requirements.

Being strategic with technology, not tactical

Dealing knowledgeably with vendors

Open AIs

Using systems for what they are designed for

Platforms versus point solutions

The complexities of operating globally

Is there such a thing as a perfect TA tech stack?

The current and future role of AI

Personalized recruiting automation

The future role of the TA team

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If something goes wrong, who's responsible - you, or the AI?

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In this thought-provoking episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, join guest speaker Nani Vishwanath as she delves into the future of work and its impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). From hybrid and remote work arrangements to the need for purposeful in-person interactions, Nani breaks down the importance of considering the unique needs of individuals with various identities. Discover the research-backed benefits of remote work for people of color and gain insights on creating a culture of belonging. Join hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton in this engaging conversation and explore how DEI is not just a "nice to have," but a critical aspect of business success. Don't miss out on this eye-opening episode - tune in now! #InclusiveAF #FutureOfWork #DEI #DiversityandInclusion #EquityandInclusion

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Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Shannon Pritchett, head of marketing and community at HireEZ, joins the boys for a conversation covering the state of sourcing, how HireEZ is embracing ChatGPT and other AI technologies around recruiting and how disruption is set to be business as usual throughout our industry. More: Shannon Pritchett - www.linkedin.com/in/sourcingshannon/ Workhuman - http://www.workhuman.com UNLEASH America - http://www.unleash.ai

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This week in HR technology: ADP acquires Sora to help with workflows; PeopleScout launches Accelerate, an RPO solution, and more.

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Tech hiring is in kind of a weird place right now. Newsworthy layoffs, artificial intelligence threats, and a down economy mean a lot of indecision and uncertainty. Many companies are just pushing pause as a result. All this makes for a tricky environment for any and all startups looking to place high-tech workers. InSquad, a one-click solution to source and hire top-quality vetted remote software developers, ain’t scared though. That’s why CEO Alex Svinov decided to face the Firing Squad. He thinks he has a better mousetrap than the likes of Upwork, Turing, Andela, and many others. Is he right? Gotta listen to find out.

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When you see a merger, congratulate both firms. Growing a software company isn’t easy, and exits are important.

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Over the last few years, TikTok has driven a revolution in short-form video content, racking up billions of views and forcing its competitors to adopt similar formats. Recent data, ironically released by Google, has also highlighted that a significant percentage of young people prefer to do their research on TikTok and Instagram instead of using Google. 

However, while a few employers are doing a great job in this area, overall, there is still very little recruitment marketing or employer branding content on these platforms.

So what do employers need to do to connect with the millions of people consuming short-form views effectively, and what part should this type of content play in recruitment marketing and employer branding strategies?

My guest this week is Omar Khateeb, Founder and CEO at JobPixel. JobPixel is helping many employers to embrace short-form video content, and Omar has expert insights to share on what works and how to build effective workflows for this type of content.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of the market and the consequences of overhiring

How employer branding is evolving to meet the current challenges

The critical importance of creating authentic video content

Showcasing the good, the bad and the ugly.

The evolution of Day in the Life videos

How does short-form video fit in strategically?

Many people research companies after they have applied, not before

What makes great content

Having the right tooling and process to capture video

The impact of AI on content creation

What is the future of video for recruitment marketing and employer branding?

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Tech teams must have a little time on their hands. Either that, or they’re abnormally inspired after a spring of big tech layoffs. OK, maybe both. Anyway, LinkedIn is apparently launching new A.I. features for job seekers and Rippling is getting into the ATS game. Other than that, the boys discuss Yellow trucking’s epic crash, chatbots like Paradox landing in Forbes' penalty box, and Tom Brady beefing up his resume and investment portfolio. Throw in the beginning of the NFL season and marriage advice from porn star Mia Khalifa and you’ve got one helluva show.

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TRF covers this week:

When a CEO’s top measure of success is happy employees, you know you’re listening to Chris Forman with AppCast! Catch the episode released last Monday

Friend of the show, Adam Gordon is teasing with his new company called ‘Poetry’ dressed in France’s national colours and on a boat!

Lazy Girl Jobs - just set all women back 50 years, everything Barbie did to empower women has been undone by these viral TikTok's.

What’s next? Paying your adult children to stay home and do chores?

In The News

Netflix runs an ad for an AI Expert with a salary of up to $900K; causing outrage to the striking Hollywood crowd.

Linked In is testing out a job seeker coach using AI, no word on the monthly price tag.

Tip of the Week

Ask candidates how they want to be communicated to - email, phone or text. If you’re going to use text, better call our friends at RecTxt.com.

Recruiting Insights

When having Canadian experience a real and legitimate job requirement, and you don't know how to read a resume, you best brush up on federal and provincial human rights act.

The world’s first blind hiring experiment included voice masking technology soon to be the best intended worst experience ever.

3 powerhouse reports paint a stark picture of a brewing storm with a mandated return to the office. We watch as the pendulum swings with attrition and struggling to recruit. Good news for recruiters, the demand for our skill are headed back our way.

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One of the key themes I've observed emerging over the last few years is the need for employers to think about talent holistically. To achieve this, progressive organizations are already breaking down the barriers between talent acquisition, talent management, and L&D. The central tenet is Strategic Workforce Planning (SWP).

So what does effective SWP look like, how is AI changing thought processes, and what role does Talent Acquisition need to play?

My guest this week is Sadhana Bhide, Strategic Workforce Planning Subject Matter Expert at Faethm by Pearson. Sadhana has expert insights to share on the current state and future development of SWP, and this is a must-listen for TA leaders everywhere.

In the interview, we discuss:

What is SWP, and why is it so important?

Unique strategic advantages

Engaged workforces

The 6 Bs that underpin SWP

The impact of AI on jobs

What role should Talent Acquisition play in SWP?

Common roadblocks and challenges

Best practices to measure success

Establishing a learning mindset and a culture of change readiness

What does the future of HR look like?

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How an startup's founder pursues a changing market.

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Europeans are well-known for taking a long break from work in the summer, but if you think the world of work has taken a break, think again. On this episode, the boys cover the Appcast acquisition of Bayard from a European point of view, and how Stepstone (might) play a part in this game of chess. France has also been a full plate of work related activities and challenges, which get covered. If you love buy-or-sell, we have a robust line-up, and a hotly debated group of startups, including inploi, Propel, Settly, Zelt and Neople … no, not Nipple, you sicko … Neople.

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Join us for an empowering and informative episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast as we sit down with the incredible Shalita Grant to discuss all things inclusive hair care! ✨In this episode, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton chat with Shalita Grant. Shalita, a Tony-nominated actress, made headlines when she courageously left a popular TV show due to her struggle with traction alopecia and hair damage, which affected her in front of millions of viewers.

Determined to find a solution, she developed a groundbreaking plant-based hair treatment addressing her complex type 4 hair issues. This led her to establish Four Naturals Hair in her dining room in Toluca Lake, California, in 2019, which has now expanded into a nationwide salon and home care treatment system. With its plant-based active ingredients, the Four Naturals Treatment has become a transformative solution for textured hair, allowing Shalita's characters to look their best.

In this episode, Shalita shares her personal journey as a black actress in Hollywood, shedding light on the challenges she faced and the damaging effects of constantly changing hairstyles for roles. Discover how she took matters into her own hands and, inspired by her own experiences, created the groundbreaking Four Naturals treatment to address the unique needs of type four hair. We dive deep into the underrepresentation and understudy of type four hair, the erasure of its unique needs, and the damaging impact of societal standards. Shalita opens up about her trauma therapy journey, embracing her natural hair and finding beauty and movement in her unique tresses. Get ready to be inspired and empowered by her story!

Join us as we explore the intersection of race, hair, and Hollywood, and discover tangible tips and insights for embracing and caring for your own hair, regardless of texture. We cover it all, from haircare techniques rooted in science to the importance of inclusivity in the hairstyling industry! Don't miss out on this eye-opening conversation. Hit that subscribe button, turn on the notification bell, and tune in to The Inclusive AF Podcast for a dose of inclusivity, empowerment, and hair love. 🎙️💖

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BetterUp integrates with Microsoft, Americans earn better pay, and more.

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Just when you thought you understood the definition of artificial intelligence, along comes generative A.I. Confusing? Yeah. That’s why we invited Thom Kenney, former Smashfly CEO and current director at Google on the show. T.K. helps us better understand what the hell is going on in the world today, including diving into the current writer’s strike in Hollywood, security concerns and what in the world comedian Sarah Silverman is so upset about. Put your thinking cap on for this one.

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We have thrown out all traditional gender expectations, Shelley pays for lunch and Serge sings for his supper.

Is organizational hygiene the polite term for cleaning house, aka layoffs?

In the News

10,000 H1B Visa holders in 48 hours, highly skilled workers are eager to get into Canada!

Twitter launches job listings @TwitterHiring - next up @TwitterDating

Former TA Exec sues his employer Goldman Sachs, we saw this coming from miles away

Tip of the Week

Using AI to improve your Linked In summary statement. Be sure to edit it before you publish.

Recruiting Insights

Cisco offers up training sessions to become talent influencers. Such a great idea!

The 4-6 pm dead zone and MS Teams is big brother, watching your every move. 

HireRight points the finger at TA when their customers demand faster service.

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We talk about SMBs approach to AI and how it impacts learning, bias and transparency.

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Elon is just the gift that keeps on giving, isn’t he? But this week is particularly special as Twitter, er, X, or whatever, has gone through a rebrand, and more importantly, getting into recruitment with the launch of Twitter Hiring. Not to be outdone, Google is set to launch a full-on PPC solution for its Google for Jobs offering. How will Indeed and others respond? We discuss. What’s more, DEI initiatives are on life-support according to a recent Wall Street Journal article and Eons 2.0 is here in the form of Peppermint. And in China, young adults becoming perma-children as a form of employment is now a thing. Yeah, really. By the way, Chad is back in the USA after his stint in Europe, and let’s just say the disappointment is strong, which you’ll see on our YouTube channel.

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In this episode, Jackye shares a bit about her medical journey and how the experience is for many Black women with medical issues. This episode is deeply personal and a must listen!

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What do front-line and deskless workers need – and want – from their technology?

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Not sure if you’ve heard or not, but recruiting and retaining healthcare professionals is a hot topic these days. No one has really figured out the secret sauce or found the magic bullet. That’s why Chad & Cheese sat down with Angad Madra, director HR technology and analytics at Ardent Healthcare, at iCIMS Inspire in San Diego. On this episode, get ready to snack on a tasty dose of healthcare recruitment, best retention practices and impact of the gig economy. Your blood pressure is sure to normalize after this one if you’ve been stressed about hiring in this sector.

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Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Julia Levy, industry veteran, superfan of the podcast, and former head of global talent acquisition at CommScope, join the boys for conference takeaways, the current state of recruiting, and how organizations can best adapt to change in a world that, let’s face it, has gone a bit nutso. Indeed mirage products, LinkedIn just doesn't care, and Talent Acquisition trying to remove business and budget blockers.

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Recognition and technology, what managers think of these newfangled tools, and getting whiplash from following the business world.

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If you loved last week’s episode breaking down Appcast’s acquisition of Bayard, then you’ll love this one too. Plenty of commentary and criticism in the aftermath of the deal to discuss whether or not Stepstone knows what it’s doing. Not to be outdone, Glassdoor’s R&D department woke-up long enough to build an “innovation” it calls Bowls. (Yeah, we’re confused too.) Then there’s so much AI news that we had to go rapid fire and highlight our favorite stories. And, of course, another week of sexbots, chips in your brain and living like Hugh Hefner at the Playboy mansion for the rest of your days. Good times, and a great listen.

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Another exciting week in Talent Acquisition.

This week we cover:

Blue sky over head and green grass under foot, RecFest US - Nashville, BiCentennial Park, September 13 & 14. 

Does being late to every zoom meeting qualify as ‘time blindness’? We take shots at Sarah Trefren when her whining to be accommodating for her condition on TikTok went viral. 

Threads seem to be going limp. 

Listing your salary history on your Linked In profile; we are too Canadian for that!

In the news

Canadian unemployment rose to 5.4%

Indeed Flex, the contingency staffing firm in the UK, launches Same Day Pay. 

Tip of the week

Evergreen job posting advice

Recruiting Insights 

Using AI to make the hiring decision is a bit of a headline grabber, we won't see mass adoption in our lifetime. 

Work love bombing is the same toxic behaviour seen in romantic relationships - it's never a good look.

Corporate Tinder is a 1 way video interview. Finally we are all on the same page of what a horrible idea this was in the first place.

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In this episode, Jackye flies solo with Michelle Rhee. Michelle Rhee is cofounder of BuildWithin, a software platform that provides employers with the ability to create and manage apprenticeship and employee learning programs covering everything from software development to digital marketing. There are currently more than 40,000 people across the US using the BuildWithin platform. After nearly 20 years of working in educational nonprofits and later serving as DC’s first Chancellor of the 50,000+ student public school district, Michelle is uniquely familiar with the educational and workforce development needs required by today’s companies – especially as AI transforms the workplace and the cost of a college degree continues to price out the average minimum-wage earner. Michelle is especially passionate about modern tech apprenticeships and how they are being used to bring marginalized people (e.g., people of color, retirees, neuro-diverse, veterans, etc.) into the technology workforce and provide a reliable pathway to the middle class. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

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DEI in technology, good news and bad news for underrepresented groups, and the impact of salary transparency.

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AI has dominated the discussion for months now, and if recent conversations are anything to go by, this shows no sign of letting up. However, the initial hysteria is fading, and the hype is slowly turning into meaningful discussions about what the AI-driven future will look like.

So what is the potential of AI in TA and HR, what are the current benefits, and perhaps most importantly, what are the risks? I was keen to get the perspectives of a Chief People Officer on all of this, so I'm delighted that my guest this week is Geri Morgan, Chief People Officer at Intellum. Gerri has some excellent advice to share and even got ChatGPT to actively participate in our conversation!

In the interview, we discuss:

What aspects of employer engagement will benefit from AI?

Personalization

The opportunities AI offers HR

Tech for tasks - AI as our new co-worker

What are the current use cases?

Compliance, ethics, and legislation

Keeping the momentum of innovation going

Mitigating risk

Building out AI-enabled processes

What does the future look like for HR?

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Automated sourcing, referrals and analytics are all pretty popular features to have in your tech stack these days, but what about a startup that delivers - or at least hopes to deliver - all these things. That’s where newbie Kula comes in. Achu Ravi, founder & CEO of the company that is “On a mission to turn every employee into a recruiter” takes on the Firing Squad in this episode. A bold undertaking, and barely out of diapers, Kula has raised nearly $15M dollars to take on the world but let's see if they can even get past The Squad. MORE Kula: www.kula.ai Achu: www.linkedin.com/in/achuthanand-ravi-b341ab59/ Chad & Cheese: www.chadcheese.com

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We explore insights that can help hire, retain and develop your workforce.

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After Shelley’s brief trip across the pond, Serge is happy to be back with his favourite co-host.

Just when we thought life couldn't get better, Serge and Shelley are awarded TA Tech’s Top 100 thought leaders.  

In the News

Appcast acquires Bayard Advertising to create the worlds largest recruitment marketing firm 

Indeed is testing using employer data to help you write a better jobs ad. Role credits: ChatGPT

The US job market cooled a tiny bit in June - but consider US employers had continued to add jobs now for the last 30 month.

On the home front, Calgary lands a global HR tech firm as their North American HQ. Welcome Vantage Circle. 

Threads by Meta wont kill Twitter, its more like new users who keep comparing everyone to their old girlfriend/boyfriend. 

Tip of the Week

Write a better diversity statement on your job ad

Recruiting Insights

With time to hire averages at 255 days, someone needs to get fired.

More regrets from Elon Musk. If you let someone go, and then regret doing it, can you accuse Mark Zuckerberg of stealing trade secrets? 

New US law for employees with new borns falls painfully short of basic care for mother and child.

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HR data’s been a topic of discussion for some time, and Berkowitz spends a lot of time working with the practitioners and managers who use it.

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Hiring has changed. Over the last three years, candidate expectations have evolved dramatically, and many hiring teams are not keeping pace with this disruptive rate of change.

So what can employers do to ensure they properly engage with the talent they need, and how can technology support this process?

My guest this week is Gavin Speirs, CEO of Solutions Driven. Solutions Driven have done a huge amount of research to ensure they have the right strategies to help their clients thrive in the current hiring market. In our conversation, Gavin discusses their Hiring Enablement methodology and shares valuable advice to help TA leaders with their recruitment agency relationships.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of the hiring market

Changing candidate behaviour

The three phases of candidate engagement

Fit, Freedom, Fulfilment, Family, Fortune, and Future

Educating hiring managers

Hiring Insanity, Hiring Execution, and Hiring Inequality

Are recruitment agencies evolving quickly enough?

What questions should TA leaders be asking the agencies they work with?

What is technology enabling?

What will recruiting look like in the future?

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Another top-notch interview from our time at iCIMS Inspire in the spring. This one features Vanessa Burnaby, VP of Global TA at Avalara, a cloud-based tax compliance solution to handle every transaction in the world. Previously, Vanessa also served at Workday and SAP as a talent acquisition leader. She has been efficiently scaling and building strong teams, most recently, through recruitment automation, the ability to streamline processes and scale, primarily through focusing on strong analytics strategies. We don’t spend a lot of time interviewing TA pros with such a deep competency of the job and the industry, so this one is a must-listen.

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Employees increasingly want to make career changes; SHRMLabs releases platform facilitating HR tech.

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Joonko developed a hiring platform focused on DEI, employed dozens of people, and raised $38 million. Now it’s gone.

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Things have been pretty quiet on the unicorn front lately, but thanks to ChatGPT and Nvidia, that’s about to change, and it will undoubtedly impact the recruitment space. The boys discuss. The US Supreme Court struck down Affirmative Action, and it too will undoubtedly impact recruiting. The boys discuss. Stepstone’s CEO stepped in it this week, and they’re more than a little defensive about their own DEI efforts. Again, discuss. Plus, Beyond.com insight, flying cars and spider humans. Oh, and full English breakfasts. What’s up with the baked beans anyway?

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This week Guest Co-host Kim Wilkinson is joining Serge while Shelley is off having a grand time in Europe, probably sending some questionable pics.

In The News:

VanHack just announced a whopping $3 million in new funding. Big congrats to Ilya and the team for their continued growth. It's fantastic to see!

Calgary based KIBBI Technologies, a job-finding app created by a fellow newcomer, raised a cool $1.1 million CAD. It's always inspiring to see such initiatives supporting those who are starting a new chapter in their lives.

Canada's Minister for Immigration, Sean Fraser, has announced the country's first-ever Tech Talent strategy. The buzz surrounding it is simply overwhelming. Exciting times ahead for the tech industry in Canada!

Tip of the Week: Brought to you by Kim. She shares her secret to running a successful recruitment firm: pick your clients very carefully. It's all about finding the right fit and working with clients who align with your values and goals.

Recruiting Insights: It seems like employees are deciding to stay put for now, what we like to call "The Big Stay." With all the uncertainties and changes happening in the job market, many folks are opting to stick with their current roles. It's a trend worth exploring further.

According to the latest data from LinkedIn, job posts that feature talent tend to attract more applicants. So, if you want to increase your candidate pool, make sure to highlight the skills you're looking for.

We have a surprising benefit for you—granternity leave! It's the kind of leave you didn't know you needed until now.

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In this week's roundup: Generative AI-related job postings in the U.S. jumped about 20% , and more.

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The potential impact of AI on Talent Acquisition is 2023's biggest talking point, but what impact will these new technologies have on relationship-driven hiring at the top of organizations? 

Will AI disrupt executive search or just provide a better toolset? At the same time, how are the next generation of leaders thinking about their careers as we move further into an AI-driven future?

My guest this week is Bill Hogenauer, a Partner at JM Search. Bill specializes in placing C-Level Technology executives, and it was great to get his insights into the current state and likely future direction of Executive Search.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current market for tech talent

How market conditions are fueling innovation

How has Executive Search evolved since the pandemic?

The importance of hyperspecialization

Using technology to develop relationships

Partnerships, not transactions

The impact of AI

Automating and streamlining

How do you identify value creation and impact potential?

How is the next generation of leaders approaching their careers

What will the balance between humans and machines look like in recruiting

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye sit down with Beth Ridley. Beth is a corporate executive turned organizational transformation consultant, speaker, author and CEO of Ridley Consulting Group. Beth combines 25 years of global leadership and management consulting experience with expertise in diversity and inclusion and positive psychology to help organizations transform their workplace culture. Beth’s work is featured in national publications and she frequently delivers keynotes and workshops at events around the world. Beth holds a BA in English Literature from the University of Virginia, an MA in International Relations from Tufts University and an MBA from Columbia University. Beth has lived in London, Tokyo, Johannesburg and Bangkok and now resides in Milwaukee, Wisconsin with her husband and three children. To buy her online resources, click here: https://ridleyconsultants.com/products/

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Shifting demographics combined with the digitalization of all aspects of life are transforming the nature of work. This is forcing companies to rethink how they design jobs and recruit, develop, and engage employees. Live from UNLEASH America in Las Vegas, Dr. Steven Hunt joins Chad & Cheese to discuss his new book. In Talent Tectonics: Navigating Global Workforce Shifts, Building Resilient Organizations, and Reimagining the Employee Experience, Dr. Hunt explains how technology is changing the purpose of work and why creating effective employee experiences is critical to building organizations that can thrive in a world of accelerating change and growing skill shortages. It’s a must-listen for anyone navigating the ebbs and flows of managing a global workforce. Enjoy and get smarter in the process. More: Dr. Steven Hunt - www.linkedin.com/in/steventhunt/ The Book - https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Tectonics-Navigating-Organizations-Reimagining/dp/1119885183

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While Joel takes some time in the "happiest place on earth" Chad pulls in industry pro Quincy "Queen of Chatbots" Valencia to fill in and add needed snark to this week's episode. 

INDEED GOES TO FRANCE Indeed hops in the trojan horse for a trip to France where they are introducing a pay-per-results pricing model, after retreating from launching full-scale PPSA and PPA models in the US. 

IS JOONKO GOING DOWN? After allegations of fraudulent conduct by Joonko's CEO? 

FUTURE OF AI WORK McKinsey predicts AI's impact to occur by 2030, more than 70% of organizations struggle with the risks of using AI tools and that's just scratching the surface - ENJOY!

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Despite months of layoffs and challenging economic news, engaging with top talent is still very hard. It's even harder if you are hiring for an employer with very little profile or brand awareness in your target talent markets.

So what strategies are employers using to engage with top talent, and what lessons can large enterprises learn from small and agile start-ups when it comes to storytelling and the effective use of tech stacks?

My guest this week is George Morriss, Head of Talent Acquisition at Lindus Health. George has vast experience in building hiring strategies for high-growth start-ups and has practical advice to share on how TA Leaders should respond to the disruption we see in the market.

In the interview, we discuss:

Market recalibration

Why engaging with top talent is still so difficult

Recruiting with no employer brand

Consistency of storytelling

The balance between resonance and hyperbole

Transparency in the hiring process

Candidate experience as a point of difference

How to deal with an overwhelming choice of technology

Building a tech stack with tools to solve specific challenges

Interview training

Minimizing the administrative burden on recruiters

Lessons from start-ups

How should TA leaders prepare themselves for the future?

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This week on The Recruitment Flex

Shelley becomes Indeed famous!

Brilliant driver recruiting ads on billboards in driving simulator video games: A creative and effective strategy for attracting driver recruits.

Canadian recruiters expecting more job applications from international locations: Canadian recruiters anticipate an increase in job applications from candidates outside the country.

In the News:

Uber cuts 200 recruiters: Uber announces a reduction in its recruiting workforce by 200 employees.

Fake it until you make it...or just fraud? The truth about Joonko's authenticity: An investigation reveals that Joonko, a company, may have engaged in fraudulent practices.

Tip of the Week: Tips on how to get promoted: Valuable advice on strategies and actions to increase chances of career advancement.

Recruiting Insights:

Anxiety in HR as university degree requirements are dropped: Removing university degree requirements causes concern in HR departments. Questions arise about how pay bands will be determined without this traditional criterion.

Talent Acquisition still striving for a seat at the "table" among HR counterparts: Talent Acquisition professionals continue to work towards being recognized as equals within the broader HR field.

The drawbacks of social media creeping on candidates: Cautionary advice against engaging in excessive online research of candidates through their social media profiles.

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Benefit Sculptor CEO Erick Kuhni talks about data, Covid’s impact on benefits and understanding employees’ needs.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Dr. Raymona Lawrence. Dr. Raymona H. Lawrence is the Founder and CEO of Dr. Raymona H Lawrence Coaching, LLC. Her life's work and heartfelt mission are to help individuals and organizations incorporate Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion into their business strategy so they can authentically connect with, recruit, and retain diverse networks of customers and team members. Dr. Lawrence is a Software/Services as a System (SAAS) Agency Owner, and a Diversity, Equity, & Inclusion Strategist, Speaker, Coach, and Consultant for network marketers, small business owners, and solopreneurs. She has developed the iEngageU platform-an ALL inclusive set of business systems for business owners and has delivered engaging and thought-provoking DEI speeches and training to thousands of network marketers across the United States and Globally. She has facilitated DEI training and consulted with companies such as Arbonne International, Rodan & Fields, and Forma Therapeutics. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

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Let’s look at a few trends going on in workforce tech right now: inflation, layoffs, lack of VC funding, tightening budgets, and technological disruption. All combine to create uncertainty in multiple dimensions and end up laying the table for what should be a feeding frenzy for M&A. That’s why we invited Georgios Markakis, managing partner at Venero Capital Advisors, to the show. In addition to the acquisition and fundraising landscape, we look back at what things were like during the pandemic, what’s going on with IPOs, and what makes a good founder when dissecting M&A opportunities. It’s a must-listen for vendors and the founders who run them.

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This week in HCM tech: VidCruiter acquires AI startup Ingage, Sapia.ai releases tool to spot AI-generated interview responses, and more.

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We talk about the impact AI might have on HR, legislation that touches AI, the realities of bias and, of course, ChatGPT.

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Essential workers are all the rage right now. The only thing more popular is figuring out how to recruit them. That’s why we invited Ashley Miller, VP of HR operations at Quanta Services to sit down with us at iCIMS Inspire in San Diego. According to Ashley, start with a strong message targeted toward an inclusive audience, including military veterans, give them incredible benefits, including upskilling, and leverage technologies like SMS and video, and treat workers like family. What a concept!

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What do you get when one cohost is in Vienna, Austria and the other is in Orlando, Florida? Pure podcasting gold, baby! Throw in the fact they’re talkin’ Humanly raising, Vidcruiter acquiring, Yale rehabbing (kinda), Google employees whining and Bud Light still losing, and you’ve got the best podcast you’ll hear today (probably). One man’s pork tenderloin is another man’s schnitzel, this week, on Chad & Cheese.

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Many aspects of recruiting have changed significantly over the last two decades, with technology continuing to drive rapid leaps forward in innovation and efficiency. The candidate experience continues to be a conundrum, however, as it hasn't improved or developed at the same pace as other areas of talent acquisition.

So why is this, and how can new and compelling business cases be made to drive a better candidate experience?

My guest this week is Amy Oviedo, Founder and CEO of Recruiting Experiences. Recruiting Experiences provides fractional recruiting support to employers and training for talent acquisition professionals. Amy is a passionate advocate for the candidate experience and the importance of kindness in the recruiting process.

In the interview, we discuss:

Candidate experience as the backbone of effective recruiting 

Recruiting fundamentals and the importance of focusing on process

Automation and simplification

AI and the future of candidate experience

Kindness in the context of recruiting

Building business cases

The perfect mix between people and technology

Why a high volume of applications isn't an excuse for a poor candidate experience

What skills with talent acquisition professionals need in the future

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This week on TRF

Graduation day and Serge is worried all the well educated women will have a shallow gene pool to select from

Shelley is off to celebrate her son’s graduation - who will be a positive contribution to the gene pool!

‘Remember when’ is the lowest form of conversation - Tony Soprano. Remember when we didn't have cell phones?

In the news

Digging deeper into the express entry for trades and the French language requirement - makes more sense when you see the number of vacant positions broken down by province

Inflation is dragging people over 60 back to work.

Tip of the Week

3 easy and cheap things to reduce candidate ghosting

Recruiting Insights

Offer letters that feel like a baseball bat to the face. After a pleasant recruiting experience, the offer is supposed to be the best part not a 10 page legal contract.

New research proves that simply changing gender troubling words in your job ad does go far enough to have a measurable impact. 

DEI needs to up the game on collecting data. Why would a job seeker trust the company to NOT discriminate if I self-identify?

IBM vs Accenture - polarising decisions on how generative AI will impact the world of work

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In this episode, Katee talks to Maria Morukian. Maria is an organizational consultant, coach, and facilitator specializing in diversity, equity, inclusion, and intercultural competence. She has worked with hundreds of clients in developing sustainable and transformational change efforts to build thriving organizational communities.

Maria has worked with leaders around the world, including Mexico, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Kosovo, Colombia, China, Kenya, Lebanon, and Senegal. Maria is on the faculty at American University, is a TEDx speaker, and is published in Forbes, Ellevate, and TD Magazine. Maria hosts a podcast on critical DEI issues called Culture Stew. Maria is author of the book, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion for Trainers: Fostering DEI in the Workplace (ATD Press, 2022) and co-author of ATD's Handbook for Training and Talent Development Handbook (ATD Press, 2022). Maria earned a dual Bachelor’s Degree from the University of Michigan in Organizational Studies and Spanish, and a Master’s Degree from American University in International Communication. She lives in Washington, DC with one husband, two daughters, and two cats, all of them rambunctious!

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Different solutions for different needs, but it's all headed in one direction.

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Despite the current economic issues, many businesses face a talent crisis. Skill shortages are part of the picture, but perhaps most worrying for business leaders are low levels of engagement and retention as expectations of the employment experience continue to evolve rapidly.

So what can employers do to build workforce resilience and get the competitive talent advantage essential to drive long-term value?

My guest this week is Tammy Browning, President at KellyOCG. KellyOCG has recently published a comprehensive piece of research looking at workforce resilience. In our conversation, Tammy shares the findings and talks us through the three strategic pillars that are helping employers to build a resilient workforce.

In the interview, we discuss:

The methodology behind the report

Low levels of employee engagement and severe retention issues

Have things gone backwards since the pandemic?

A lack of action on DE&I

Mental health, career pathways, and purpose

Aligning talent acquisition, talent sustainability, and organizational resilience

Do leaders understand the issues?

The critical elements of workforce resilience 

Purpose and capability

The impact of AI

What will the future look like?

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Roundup: beqom introduces pay equity solution; Alight launches enhanced services to help employees navigate behavioral health concerns.

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Landing pages? Wait, did I hear you correctly? A platform for landing pages? That's correct and, in this Deja, vu moment Rick Maré and the team over at SHAZAMME are betting on a platform that helps hiring companies build better landing pages quicker. No question, this is definitely a case of "what is old is new again", but has the idea run full circle? Has it lost its luster or is it just in time? Will Rick receive big applause, a golf clap, or the FIRING SQUAD? You gotta listen to find out.

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We talk with Jack Berkowitz, the chief data officer at ADP.

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The tech sector has been going through an unprecedented period of layoffs in the last few months. However, the demand for digital skills in the wider market will continue for years.

So what strategies are employers putting in place to ensure they have the skills they need for their businesses in the future?

My guest this week is Alexia Pedersen, VP of EMEA at O'Reilly Media. O'Reilly has been helping businesses develop digital skills for over 40 years, and Lex has insights and advice for employers looking to gain a competitive advantage through skills acquisition and development.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of the tech talent market

Will digital skills shortages continue for the long term?

The constant demand for new skills

How employers are investing in their future

Understanding the internal skills gap

Reskilling and upskilling

Creating a culture of learning that serves different learning styles

Breaking down silos in HR to enable talent mobility

Implications of generaive AI

How will the most successful companies of the next ten years think about talent?

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Twist and SHRM, Industry Acquisitions Come Together Cheese is back from a whole week in Vegas, where he attended the SHRM National show, so we start with an update from the expo hall, including vendor takeaways, podcast superfans and a budding romance between Cardboard Chad and Cardboard Dolly Parton 🔥 Back to business, Adzuna, Beamery and Synthesia embrace AI, which is something we’ll certainly see more of from the solutions space. The show also covers recent industry acquisitions from Spark Hire and WebMD (yes, that WebMD). Then it’s Buy or Sell with Ferretly, 2045 and Swing Education. And what better way to end a show that starts with the adult playground that is Vegas than a story about an OnlyFans creator shutting down conservative commentator Piers Morgan?

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This week on TRF A green lawn and perfectly manicured yard is a sign of a healthy marriage. Diana takes first prize!

Thank you to our loyal listeners for your positive feedback on TRF’s new logo and branding. 

No FOMO on SHRM, let’s talk about why we don't fit in there.

In the News

Young women in Canada are the hardest hit for finding work. 

Meanwhile, in the US women are returning to the workplace at the highest rate since 2007!!

LinkedIn is testing the waters of charging job seekers for their Top Choice Jobs. We are throwing shade on this horrible idea.

Indeed backing down on pay transparency?

Tip of the Week

3 great questions to ask when you are being interviewed 

Recruiting Insights

You ‘register to apply’ created a monster! These apps will auto-fill thousands of applications that can be sent in a single day. Good luck sorting through them all.  

The top 100 European companies who set the pace for what great career sites should be

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Four podcasters walk into a German bar in downtown Indianapolis to discuss the state of recruitment and chaos ensues. You know (and love) two of the podcasters (Chad & Cheese) but you may not be familiar with the other two: Ira Wolfe and Jason Cochran, co-hosts of The Geeks, Geezers, and Googlization Show. Everything from AI to automation to … ah, hell, there were too many German beers and links of sausage to remember, but trust me, it was entertaining. Gern geschehen!

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This week in HR tech: Beamery launched a new workforce planning model, HR leaders believe AI will be beneficial for productivity, and more.

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Live from UNLEASH America in the Workhuman booth, Bennett Sung, co-founder at New Cherry and longtime industry know-it-all, joins the show to talk about everything from employer branding to the hottest takeaways from the conference to even explaining the name of his company. I mean, New Cherry? What’s that all about? For more: Bennet Sung - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bennettsung/ Workhuman - https://www.workhuman.com UNLEASH America - https://unleash.ai

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We talk about engagement and what’s changing with it, the impact of new ways of work, and what employees think about it all.

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It's very encouraging that an increasing number of employers are committing to play their part in improving social mobility. It is becoming clear, though, that transactional and short term attempts at talent engagement do not yield the results needed for employers or the communities they seek to engage.

So what can employers learn from nonprofits that achieve positive outcomes that do improve social mobility?

My guest this week is Irene Shih, CEO of Minds Matter Bay Area. This education nonprofit connects driven and determined students from low-income families with the people, preparation, and possibilities to succeed in college. Minds Matter Bay Area has been incredibly successful with its mission, and Irene has some critical learnings to share that employers focusing on social mobility will find extremely valuable.

In the interview, we discuss:

What is college undermatching, and why is it important to solve it

The importance of networks

What are the most significant barriers to top college entrance for low-income students?

Economic connectedness and cross-class friendships

What are the interventions that lift people out of poverty?

Positive outcomes

Trust and relationships

The importance of long-term talent engagement and why transactional approaches don't work.

Advice to employers on improving social mobility

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New branding, same show. We’d love to hear feedback on our new podcast cover and website, unless you don't like it…then you can keep your comments to yourself. 

Sincere thanks to our show sponsor, VanHack and Ilya, we are proud to be working with you.

Testing the limits of how much Serge would be willing to spend on the Apple Vision Pro? Shelley predicts its a matter of time before he breaks open the piggy bank and buys them.

Fighting wildfires, what do firefighters get paid in Canada and US. PLUS a public shaming of KL Farms Fire LLC.

In the News

US job openings hit 10.1 million - demand for workers remains hight

Immigration Canada gets it right with a new system to align newcomers to Canada & the labour market

Tip of the Week

Free - 10 Google courses designed to help you understand generative AI

Recruiting Insights

Nobody likes a job hopper, the TikTok post goes viral - let’s all calm down and put some context around this

No recruiters required - surprise McHire does 1 Million hires a year

4 possible scenarios for what recruitment will look like in the year 2028

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Indeed Shills, HackerRank Whack-a-Mole & Cardboard Chad War games, worker woes and Cardboard Chad littered our news feed this week, so it’s fair to say this is one helluva show. Cardboard Chad is LinkedIn’s hottest trend in years (IYKYK) and is making its way to SHRM in Vegas next week. (Gotta listen to make sense of this one, sorry.) Indeed is still messing up, but they’re doing it on multiple continents this week. HackerRank plays Whack-a-Mole with ChatGPT and drones are going to kill us all. Unions and strikes are trending too. Oh yeah, Martha Stewart tells us why we should get back to the office.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Lia Valencia Key about her life, her mom, and how to live your life to the fullest and share joy!

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The employee/employer relationship is changing; employee engagement is at an all-time low, and countless research studies tell us that a significant proportion of the workforce is considering quitting their jobs. At the same time, despite the economic backdrop, many companies are struggling to get the talent they need due to significant skill shortages in some areas.

So how can employers differentiate themselves and secure and retain the talent they need? A positive work culture has never been more critical and is a strong differentiator for employers focusing on building one.

My guest this week is Lori Knowles, Chief Human Resources Officer at Memorial Hermann Health System. Memorial Hermann has had some spectacular hiring and retention outcomes in a highly challenging talent market by focusing on their culture. In our discussion, Lori talks us through the five levers they use to drive culture and the results they are getting.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current talent challenges in the healthcare sector

How does workforce flexibility work in healthcare

Being strategic with just-in-time staffing

The changing employer/employee relationship

Employee experience and the moments that matter

Culture, community and mission

The five levers that drive culture

Results and impact on hiring and retention

The role of technology and AI

The vision for the future.

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ChatGPT has people looking at new ways of working, and what impact AI may have on both business and HR.

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Live from UNLEASH America in Las Vegas, James Appleton, director of talent acquisition at Harri, joins Chad & Cheese for a conversation about the other side of the coin … ya' know, life through the eyes of a practitioner dealing with an onslaught of solutions looking to make recruiting more tolerable. That’s because prior to Harri, James was head of recruitment for a variety of companies, which means he knows what he’s talking about. And now he’s on the other side, pitching to employers where he used to toss opportunities to job seekers. I know, it’s confusing, but it’ll make sense after you listen. MORE Harri: www.harri.com James Appleton: www.linkedin.com/in/james-appleton1/ UNLEASH America: www.unleash.ai Chad & Cheese: www.chadcheese.com

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This week in HCM technology: Paycor's AI-driven job descriptions; WorkRamp's expanded Learning Cloud, and more.

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Serge contemplates his political career. Look for his name in the next provincial election.  Unprecedented fires in Halifax, postponing DisruptHR Dream job alert: live on a remote island and look after wild horses. Not our dream job but for someone else it is. 

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Veritone acquires Broadbean - Serge had his crystal ball out for that one. 

Dice lays off 10% of their staff despite having increased revenue last earnings call. 

The Government of Canada makes fem-hygiene products a law. 

Summer jobs are 55% higher this year than in 2019.

Tip of the week

Post your new jobs after a long weekend - NEVER before the long weekend. 

Recruiting Insights

Stats Canada releases a report claiming the labour shortages aren't real. 

The truth behind companies who lay off staff yet their GlassDoor rating increases. 

Online Reputation Management firms take aim at GlassDoor and will charge for getting the site to remove your negative reviews.

A new twist on military recruiting, the UK targets the Middle East and North African countries with job ads to serve in the military in exchange for UK citizenship.

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The vast amount of hype, speculation, opinion, and hyperbole around generative AI can make it difficult to know how to start integrating it into the talent acquisition workflow.

The long-term implications of AI for talent acquisition are profound, and it is essential for TA teams to get fully up to speed with current capabilities and use cases. So how can AI become talent acquisition's co-pilot, and where is the best place to start?

My guest this week is Siadhal Magos, Co-Founder and CEO at Metaview. I'm getting tremendous insight into AI's potential by talking to super smart vendors who are baking generative AI into their product sets. Metaview is a perfect example of such a vendor. In our conversation, Siadhal shares his experiences on how AI can save vast amounts of time and resources in the interview process.

In the interview, we discuss:

Current market challenges

How should employers react to the AI revolution?

Turbocharging productivity

The top-down drive for efficiency

How will AI transform TA?

Detection and pattern recognition

Making sense of unstructured data in the hiring process

How is the interview changing

Building more transparency into the recruiting process

The importance of specialist tools

The future of AI

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This week in HR Tech: Vidcruiter and Oracle partner; Sense integrates with SmartRecruiter for streamlined recruiting.

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What ServiceNow does for HR, how businesses navigated the turn toward remote work and what they’ve learned from the experience.

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Job Boards still play a central role in talent attraction, but outside of the job board industry, there isn't much discussion or debate about their current state and future potential. So are they still fit for purpose, how are they evolving, and what can job board statistics tell us about the current talent market?My guest this week is Dave Jenkins, founder of Wave. Wave publishes Wave TrackR, a regular independent report that uses job board data to track recruiting trends, which means Dave has a wealth of insights to share.In the interview, we discuss:The current state of the job board marketPricing models and programmatic adoptionGeographic market differencesThe importance of the active audienceAre there still more jobs than candidates?How to get the best out of job boardsMindset changeWhat's the future of job boards?Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.A full transcript will appear here shortly.

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Sabina Mehmood. Sabina is the Pay Equity Leader for Gapsquare, helping companies make data-enabled decisions around pay, people, and DEI efforts. She leads the company’s efforts to deliver actionable strategies to close wage gaps, advance fair pay and respond in real time to changes in workforce data.

Previously, she was a manager at the Bloomberg Gender-Equality Index, where she oversaw the development and implementation of the Bloomberg Gender Reporting Framework, an internationally recognized system for measuring progress across key themes of DEI in corporations. She has also supported corporate strategy, government relations, media, and communications initiatives across Bloomberg LP and Bloomberg Philanthropies. She earned both a BBA and MA from Baruch College.

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The challenges of creating effective experiences with technology, and new approaches to experience design

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Everyone is talkin' internal talent mobility and workforce agility these days ... and for good reason. Empowering your current talent pool to fill the opportunities of the future is an incredibly powerful tool for blowing up the bottom line. That's why we had Jo Mills, Chief Experience Officer at Fuel50, to help us make sense of the topic and explore ways companies can take better advantage of this exceptional opportunity. If you're looking to make the most out of your current workforce - and who isn't? - this interview from UNLEASH in Paris is a must-listen.

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I published three interviews in October to mark National Disability Employment Awareness month. What particularly struck me was the amount of work going into neurodiversity hiring, and I want to dive deeper by finding out how specific employers are developing their programs.

My guest this week is Neil Barnett, Director, Inclusive Hiring and Accessibility at Microsoft. Neil helped to develop Microsoft’s Neurodiversity Hiring Program, which has been in place since 2015. He has excellent insights and valuable advice for employers looking to establish similar programs.

In the interview, we discuss:

Are employers getting any better at disability inclusion?

The story behind Microsoft's Neurodiversity Hiring Program

Screening in rather than screening out

Changing the hiring process to set people up for success

Providing tangible feedback

How the success of the program has changed aspects of Microsoft's other hiring programs

Building an inclusive workplace

Non-apparent disability and self-disclosure

ERGs and growing internal communities

Building the business case to get started

How Microsoft collaborates with other employers

Advice for parents on the future of neurodiversity in the workforce

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This week in HR Tech: Playvox expands workforce management planning, gig workers continue to face financial challenges and lack proper tools.

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Interesting observations from DisruptHRYYC, out of 250+ HR folks, we seem to have fewer men than in 2019. 

How to lose $75 Million, lets to weigh in on who thought beer being served in a Muslim country was really going to happen.

Penalty served to Air Canada’s job seeker experience. Please fake apply to your own company and please eat your own garbage. 

Recruiting Insights

New Canadians face discrimination as job seekers looking to port their past experience, still being devalued and paid less.

More about beer, Heineken looks to shame the ambitious. 

iCIMS 2023 Workforce Report, highly reliable survey report from one of the worlds largest ATS providers. WFH or the softer version, flexibility is the consistent theme from workers.

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Live at the HR Tech 2022 conference, our guest Tim Sackett, President of HRU Technical Resources and creator of the Tim Sackett Project, speaks with Mark Feffer about building an inventory of skills, enhancing learning environments, and being data rich yet information poor.

On the topic of skills, it's easy to not fully grasp the abilities of your workforce. If you don't successfully get an inventory of skills for your team, you might let a really amazing worker transition into a different company. Building talent isn't the only step, however. You need to cultivate a positive work environment so that these employees have the inclination to stay. Building skills doesn't always foster loyalty, that's a whole separate ballgame.

We've built a culture around YouTube centric learning environments, where the younger generation understands that learning can happen in short and efficient segments. Gone are the days of hour long classroom marathons. We in the industry have started to make multi channel engaging content that delivers the information while actually engaging the viewers.

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Hiring globally is all the rage, thanks to a pandemic that supported the growth of an anywhere workforce. To compliment this growth, many organizations are looking to grow their footprint of products and services all over the world. That's why we brought Oana Iordachescu, Head of Talent Acquisition, Technology and Analytics at Wayfair (you've got just what I need!) on the pod while hangin' out at UNLEASH in Paris this past Oct. Turns out, creating large technology teams when no consumer or employer brand exists in new markets is no easy task. But don't worry, we got you. Well, technically, Oana's got you, but you know what we mean.

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Talent Intelligence is on the rise, with an increasing number of TA teams putting data at the core of their strategy. However, do employers genuinely understand the full potential of TI, how do you get started, and what is the business case for building a specialist resource?

My guest this week is Toby Culshaw, Talent Intelligence Leader at Worldwide Amazon Stores. Toby is one of the global pioneers of talent intelligence, having built teams and Philips and Amazon. He has also recently released his first book, "Talent Intelligence - Use Business and People Data to Drive Organizational Performance" Suffice to say, this is a must-listen interview for anyone who wants to know more about the development of talent intelligence. 

In the interview, we discuss:

What is Talent Intelligence, and how is it developing

The business outcomes and value of TI

What areas of TA is data intelligence being applied to?

Where should TI sit within the organization?

Maturity model

When TI isn't TI

What skills does a TI function need to be successful?

Building capability

What will be possible in the future?

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Hourly hiring remains challenging for many employers, and despite the worsening economic outlook, it will likely remain a huge challenge for several years to come.

So what innovations are we seeing in how employers approach hourly hiring and in the technology they are using? What does good look like now, and how will automation define the future?

My guest this week is Sean Behr, CEO of Fountain. Over the last few years, Fountain has helped companies hire over 13 million hourly paid workers in more than 75 countries, meaning Sean has a lot of insight to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current talent marketing in hourly hiring

The challenges of the last few years

Fundamental changes in the workforce that will see hourly hiring continue to be challenging for years to come.

What makes employers successful in this market

The vital importance of speed in hiring

Recruiting automation

Using technology to provide a quality candidate, hiring manager, and recruiter experience at scale

Really human hiring

Personalization

Quality versus quantity

Why hourly hiring is the most innovative place to be in talent acquisition

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Payscale acquired Agora Solutions, Talogy launched a suite of 360-degree feedback solutions and more.

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It’s been a year since Textkernel acquired Sovren, creating a Wonder Twin-style deal that brought the two most well-known resume parsing solutions together. So what better time to catch-up with Textkernel CEO Gerard Mulder to see how things are going while we were in-person at UNLEASH in Paris in October. Lots going on, a lot of growth globally, and maybe even a scoop or two. Enjoy this frank conversation with a Chad & Cheese longtime sponsor.

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With high-profile layoffs in some large technology companies, it is perhaps easy to forget that digital transformation is still driving a massive need for tech talent in employers all over the world.

Despite the current economic headwinds, long-term trends are in play that require specific operating and employer brand strategies, particularly in companies that are not traditionally seen as being digital.

My guest this week is Blair Bennett, Senior Vice President Global Talent Acquisition at PepsiCo. Digital transformation is creating a significant need for tech talent in their business. In our conversation, Blair talks about the strategy they are putting in place to hire the people they need.

In the interview, we discuss:

The size and scale of talent acquisition at PepsiCo

Market trends and challenges

Digital transformation and bringing in new capabilities

Repositioning talent acquisition strategy

Personalizing candidate experience in competitive talent markets

Automation in the TA operating model

EVP and employer brand for specific talent cohorts

Talent intelligence

Geographical targeting and segmentation

The role of technology

The long term demand for digital talent

The future of personalization in talent acquisition

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This week on a lactose-free Chad and Cheese podcast we have questions... Luckily, tech and product stud Adam Godson joins us to answer questions like... Will The Miami Heat Bang and Blame? Will iCIMS finally give us The Bird? Can robots be taxed? Will Jeff Bezos be able to keep his super yacht with all of the Amazon layoffs? Most important of all, is the age of social media end? Man, I hope not, what the hell would Joel do without big booty Latinas and bug fights? 

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Elon has too much work on his plate. With 3 companies to run, how does a nano-manager find time to sleep or eat?  

Speaking of exhaustion, our admiration and respect for working parents has ballooned. Canadian families are facing more unprecedented times with a nationwide shortage of baby tylenol & advil PLUS the worst cold & flu season in a generation. 

Recruiting Insights 

If covering your monthly expenses is top of worker’s needs, could we be headed for the 2023 version of the Great Resignation. The warning flag is up, read Mercer’s 2022 Inside Employee’s Minds report and decide for yourself.

Neither Shelley or Serge has ever had the heart to end an interview after 60 seconds. When there is no recovering from a dumb remark, why not just end it?

Big trends in and predictions in Europe for the job board market

Canadian employers who appear to be innovative when it comes to flexible work, could poor corporate culture be the underlying reason for their innovation?

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Skills based hiring continues to be a growing trend as employers rethink how they attract and assess talent. So how do you define what good looks like and identify the right hires for your organisation?

My guest this week is Leadership Strategist and Talent Consultant Ginny Clarke, who formerly ran executive hiring programmes at Google. Ginny is a strong advocate of competency-based recruiting and has some invaluable advice to share. 

In the interview, we discuss:

Spotting competencies and demonstrated behaviours

Talent reviews and performance evaluations

How do you define and identify talent?

Looking more broader to increase diversity

Psychological safety and equity

The relationship between leadership and culture

Competencies as skills plus knowledge plus ability

Deconstructing job roles

Looking past employment history and education

What does the future of work look like, and how should employers be preparing

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Brandolon Barnett. Brandolon is the author of Dreams Deferred: Recession, Struggle, And The Quest For A Better World. An agent of change in the social impact area, speaker and philanthropist, Barnett was recently elected as @ANC1A commissioner for District 1A06 in Washington, D.C. He was formerly head of corporate social responsibility industry solutions in Salesforce.org’s philanthropy cloud and is the founder of the Democratize Ventures investing and advisory institute. Barnett has promoted development and volunteerism on three continents, led the Bill and Melinda Gates-funded Growfund donor-advised fund effort, and participated in research and consulting engagements at the Council on Foundations and Global Impact.

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Live at the HR Tech 2022 conference, our guest Sarah White, CEO of Aspect 43, speaks with Mark Feffer about what skills are and looks at the bigger picture of the whole movement.

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Sometimes Chad & Cheese get so far up their own asses, it pays to take a step back and look at the big picture. Luckily, there's no better place to take a deep breath and ponder than Europe, which is why the boys look at the job board landscape across Europe. Inspired by an article from show favorite Geert-Jan Waasdorp entitled “Why the European job board market is on the verge of a major transition,” we dig into the rise of Indeed across Europe, programmatic becoming more and more popular, the gig economy gaining influence and even Web3's increasing impact on employment. It's a lot to digest, so a little Buy-or-Sell is in order to relax and let off steam. This episode, CloudPay, Job Protocol and EarnHire get put under the microscope. Lastly, we end with Lieven's take on European success-story and news item Beekeeper's recent raise.

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This week in HR tech: DailyPay partners to aid financial wellness, while Ceridian releases new features for Dayforce.

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Turn down the lights and turn up the Marvin Gaye, because we're talking about VR in recruiting on this episode. Turns out, there's a really cool organization called VisionThree that's raising $80 million to advance virtual reality in schools and partnering with corporations and local governments to increase the level of talent in the workforce. Heather Jackson, chief revenue officer at VisionThree breaks it all down for us. Spoiler alert: It's all Mark Zuckerberg's fault.

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With the news cycle currently dominated by significant layoffs in large tech companies, it is essential to take a step back and consider the longer-term picture. Many employers are still struggling to find the right tech talent. Recent research has shown that skill shortages will continue for years as education systems are not setting students up with the right skills for our AI-dominated future.

So what should employers be doing right now to recruit and develop tech professionals, and what is the impact of remote and hybrid working on early careers talent?

My guest this week is Atli Thorkelsson, VP of Talent Network at Redpoint Ventures. Atli advises start-ups across Redpoint's portfolio on talent acquisition and development. He has some important insights to share on the current state of the market and the strategies employers need to adopt to deal with the longer terms challenges.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of the tech hiring market

Long term challenges

Development of early career talent

The role of the Chief People Officer

Building the right foundations for talent development

How do remote-first organizations support mentoring and development?

What are the biggest hiring mistakes start-ups make?

What can corporate TA functions learn from start-up hiring practices?

How will recruiting technology develop in the future?

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Who doesn't love a good underdog story? LinkedIn, apparently. It's starting to look like King Kong has finally won its legal battle with spunky start-up HiQ Labs, which we cover this week. Moving from 800-lb. gorillas to tiny bees, Beekeeper has raised $50M to grab a huge chunk of the mobile workforce management market. What's more? New York City's pay transparency law is off to a rocky start, buy-or-sell with 5MINS, WorkTorch and Sparkplug, and those crazy Swedes at Tengai are back, so cue the ABBA!

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DE&I remains a major priority for employers, but progress is slow and sometimes completely stuck. So how should companies be thinking about diversity, and what practical actions can they take to build and benefit from teams of difference?

My guest this week is writer, broadcaster and consultant Simon Fanshawe. Simon is a well known figure in the UK and has recently published an excellent book, "The Power of Difference". He advocates that progress comes when employers move away from the jargon around DE&I and genuinely understand how building a diverse workforce will drive their specific business objectives. 

In the interview, we discuss:

The human question of diversity and what does it actually mean.

The power of combining difference

The dangers of conformity and the imposition of rules

Building teams of difference

Using data to understand what is happening and why

Understanding specific diversity business cases

The virtuous circle of selection

Is unconscious bias training actually helpful?

Redesigning the recruiting process to challenge assumptions

The most accurate predictor of future success

Making employee resource groups more effective

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Ya' know how mobile developers have to build for two distinctly different platforms iOS and Android? Well, you'd better get ready for strategizing and building for Indeed ... and then everyone else. That's the vision Indeed laid out for attendees at their recent annual meeting, and RecruitmentMarketing.com's Julie Calli is here to lay out all the details from the event. If you use Indeed, it's a must-listen and a nice alternative voice to what Indeed is doing from what Chad & Cheese are droppin' on the topics of CPA, RPO, Flex, Hire, and more from Indeed. And if that's not enough, the gang dives into a new advertising option from LinkedIn that should not only get the attention of B2B marketers everywhere but also the attention of savvy employers. We even throw a little Elon and Kanye in there for some additional employer brand commentary.

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This week in HR technology: UKG acquires Quorbit, ServiceNow launches workplace planning solution and more.

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Love a good Qwick-y? Then this episode is for you. That is, restaurant staffing platform Qwick landed a $40 million round to take on the staffing woes of restaurants in the U.S. Not quite as exciting, the boys move on to AtlasJobs, which might make you long for 2009 (or 1999) all over again. Lastly, PaintJet takes aim at the $175 billion painting industry by taking people out of the equation and filling that void with a big-ass painting robot. Welcome to the metaverse, Dorothy! Plus, it's a double-LinkedIn shoutout session and the boys introduce a segment called "Slipping It In." Yeah, what could go wrong with that one?

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Trick or Treat? Which one is it Indeed? Serge decided to open his wallet. His overly generous plan for the children of the neighbourhood was foiled when only 1 Trick or Treater came to his house. 

The Recruitment Flex hosts, HR’s most positive influencers are right here! Promise not to change our name to 2 letters and let our egos spin out of control. We dug deep to find some empathy for the shameful behaviour of Kanye West this week. 

Get your CNRG recruiter meet up events in Calgary and Vancouver, tickets are almost sold out! Canadianrecruiter.ca

Recruitment Insights

Does anyone even care if Indeed changes their pricing model? It depends who you ask. 

AppCast’s Top Recruiting Trends for 2023 Get it here

Explain the difference between a recession and 1.7 jobs open for every available job seeker

Be a real recruiter and have many strategies to attract job seekers

Time is money, what does an open position cost your company

Suffering from a 70+hour work week and burning out their best people, a Chick-fil-A in Miami gets creative on how they schedule workers.

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Live at the HR tech 2022 conference, our guest Robin Schooling (VP of Growth and Innovation at Cielo) speaks with Mark Feffer about rethinking compensation for up-skilled employees, and how to transition your organization into a learning oriented environment. We're bringing everything back to our roots at this HR Tech conference. Companies are reenforcing their core offerings, and it seems sticking to what they're good at is the best way to shine. Products and organizations are trying to stay their course and make sure they're the best product for a specific goal, instead of trying to be the "all in one" solution that does everything in mediocre fashion. Buy, Build, or Borrow...the age old question. Borrowing skills will never go away, because it's always going to be the most efficient and quick way to solve a unique problem you'll only encounter a few times. Buying skills is difficult, as talent is scarce nowadays. Growing skills might just be the best solution in today's market. Who would have thought that growth platforms and LMS's have become a reasonable alternative to hiring platforms? The only issue is having to rethink titling and compensation for these up-skilled workers. Most companies want to grow their employees from within, but that comes with the added challenge of letting these blossoming employees shine in the manner that they deserve. Internal growth comes with more financial overhead than just the training process; you need to be comfortable with compensating these individuals more for their newly acquired skillset. Getting to a point where learning is acknowledged as an important organizational goal takes a lot of restructuring. Business leaders, upper management, and the company culture all need to be on the same page so that identifying internal growth opportunities is seamless enough to even attempt it. Propping up your employees is no easy task if you never have done it before, but with the right effort and mindset any organization that puts in the effort can get there.

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A volatile talent acquisition market and the immense disruption we are seeing to traditional ways of working our driving significant changes in employer branding strategies. Culture, EVP, and employer brand marketing are going through a period of intense evolution, and it is essential to understand what's happening in this space.

My guest this week is Charu Malhotra, Global Head of Talent Branding and Recruitment Marketing at PA Consulting. In our wide ranging conversation recorded at UNLEASH World in Paris, we discussed some of the current issues in employer branding, culture, and retention.

In the interview, we discuss:

The impact of external forces on talent acquisition

Building inclusive workplaces when workforces are increasingly remote

Proximity bias in hybrid working

How do you create, manage and flex a culture

Embedding values in high-performance cultures

How does employer branding work on an international scale

Focused segmentation and a constant heartbeat of content

Employer brand and retention

The importance of assessment technology

Changing the balance between internal mobility and external attraction

Reimagining EVP projects as nimble and responsive instead of one size fits all.

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Think unicorns only roam the plains of America? Well, think again. This week, the boys discuss Factorial, Europe’s newest workforce startup to hit $1 billion in value. Then it’s time to break down some unicorn wannabes with buy-or-sell, covering Easop, Enate, and Jomigo. Rounding out this episode is looking at Indeed’s new PPA and its impact on the European market. Oh, and of course, we must chat some Elon and Twitter.

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In this week's HR technology news roundup: Paycor launches leadership program. Employees (heart) transparency.

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The wait is over! It's our Halloween show, full of dad jokes and bad soundbites. You're welcome. We even get to some news, covering the iCIMS acquisition, and Indeed's pivot to PPA, Voilà! coming to America and Oracle's new Booster. Also, Bloomberg says self-driving cars are headed for a fatal crash, while Bloomberg then publishes articles about Waymo coming to Los Angeles and Intel's Mobileye going IPO. Oh, Bloomberg, such a two-faced. Unlike the two faces, you really love: Chad & Cheese, the podcast that 'ghosts' its fans on Halloween week.

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Shelley thought 1 drink at lunch is day drinking,It's not day drinking unless you're passed out by 7 pm, according to Serge.

Would you favour a candidate for sending a thank you note after an interview or is this an outdated notion? Maybe we should be sending thank you notes to candidates!

Insights

A change in hiring policies found 232 new employees for an Ontario retailer, the simple solution was offering people shifts that fit their life. 

The City of Toronto tries their hand at TikTok and IG to recruit Engineers, we will definitely be following this hot trend

Nearly half of Americans under 40 have tattoos, no need to wear a scarf to work to cover your neck tattoos.

Setting clear business goals is the only measure of remote working success. 

Portland employers believe it’s totally OK to pay tip-earning staff $6.50 per hour; expecting customers to subsidize their staff’s wages with tips. Only in America!

Twitter and Elon, Shelley’s watching too much Netflix’s Eat The Rich, there’s no conspiracy here or connection to Elon’s plan to reduce staff by 75% and the stock price.

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With recruiting challenges so acute and talent acquisition technology developing at such a great pace, tech stack adoption and transformation strategies are critical for many employers.

So what are the key issues, and how are talent acquisition teams specializing and evolving to exploit new technologies and methodologies?

My guest this week is Samantha Ramsay, Head of Experienced Hire UK&I at EY. I caught up with her a couple of weeks ago at UNLEASH World in Paris, where she was delivering a presentation about Tech Transformation.

In the interview, we discuss:

Current challenges in talent acquisition

Driving change in recruiting

Asking five whys to get to the root cause of the problem

Building stakeholder consensus

What makes a great vendor/employer partnership

Talent intelligence

Using CRMs in the right way

Developing specialist skills within TA functions

Building long term engagement and affinity with talent pools

What does the future look like?

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This week in HR tech: Cornerstone OnDemand expands content, HiBob launches workforce planning, and more.

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We joke about VONQ sounding like an STD our "roommate" caught in college, as well as saying their executive teams look like the bad guys from the Bruce Willis classic Die Hard, but truth be told, they're a company making waves in the employment space. That's why we recently sat down with CEO Arno Schäfer to dig into what's going on at the company. Turns out they're doing some really interesting things, like private labeling their tech so applicant tracking systems can make even more money. What a world, amirite!?!?! Enjoy this one, live from UNLEASHworld in Paris.

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One of the most encouraging aspects of our changing world work has been the number of employers actively seeking to recruit neurodiverse talent. However, it is estimated that 15-20% of the world's population is neurodivergent, and there is still a vast amount of work to do to ensure that our workplaces are inclusive for all and that employers benefit from supporting everyone to work to their full potential. 

My guest this week is Genie Love, an Executive Function Coach who works with neurodiverse professionals to help them achieve their personal and professional goals. In our conversation, she offers many practical insights into how employers can support their people at work.

In the interview, we discuss:

Understanding the unique strengths of neurodivergent people

Time, attention, decision making, and organization

Energy levels and strategies for deep work

How can employers be more inclusive?

Re-imagining job descriptions and interviews

The power of thinking differently 

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After a weeklong hiatus, thanks to a little trek to Unleash in Paris, the boys are back and badder than ever.

On this episode, they dissect the recent acquisition of Paycor and Talenya, the investment in Ten Thousand Coffees - which has nothing to do with actual coffee, by the way - and then play a little thumbs-up / thumbs-down with The Muse acquiring Fairygodboss, CareerBeacon buying Ruutly (a Canadian double-double, Tim Hortons-style), Glassdoor filters and TaTiO grabbin' that paper. Amazon is in a pickle again and Robot Baristas take on San Francisco (boycott THIS! workers).

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Anyone who has seen me speak this year knows that I consider personalization the next big trend in talent acquisition. If they get their strategies right, the rapid growth in automation technologies allows employers to offer a bespoke candidate experience at scale. So which employers are doing this well, and what can we learn from them?

My guest this week is Lisa Scales, Head of Talent Acquisition for the UK and Ireland at Nestle. In our wide-ranging conversation, recorded at UNLEASH World in Paris, Lisa talks us through Nestle's strategies around personalization and the results they're getting.

In the interview, we discuss:

The turbulent market and conflicting tensions for talent acquisition

Scarcity of skills

Removing repetitive transactional tasks

Using conversational AI to answer previously unanswered questions

The power of personalization

The time, place and wishlist for automation

Personalized onboarding

Why automated selection can amplify systemic bias

Moments that matter, interesting technologies, and the deskless workforce

What does the future look like

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Mary Faulkner talks to Mark Feffer about the drive to learn: Many organizations seem to lose sight of the learning experience, and then they wonder why people quit.

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How often do you hear an interview with a recruiter who’s done time at Cisco, Facebook, Docusign, eBay, Robinhood and now Gem? Well, today’s your lucky day. Chad & Cheese has a chat with Richard Cho, Chief Recruiting Officer at Gem to talk about a wide variety of challenges around being a CRO, like recognizing that the bottom-line rules all, navigating the Chief People Officer and managing a down economy. We even veer off course down Memory Lane once or twice. Enjoy.

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This week in HR technology: SwiftConnect announces alliance with Microsoft; Sense integrates with WhatsApp.

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An American and a Finn meetup on Reddit and a startup is born. Finland-based Hireproof promises to make anyone a world-class interviewer just by clicking a link. Really? Yeah, really. Cofounder Nick Barth joins Chad & Cheese for a lively episode of Firing Squad, pitching his product that promises "delight," "happiness" and "less bias" in the hiring process. Is Hireproof primed to set the world on fire, or is it a wet blanket. Gotta listen.

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Live from Paris at UNLEASH World, the boys are on stage with Keith Sonderling, EEOC Commissioner & Oana Iordachescu Associate Director, Talent Acquisition - Technology Europe/Asia at Wayfair Deutschland. And they’re talkin’ A.I. issues in hiring, focused on Europe. We’re always keeping you away from land mines, no matter the continent. What’s more? How about a special show summary with fellow podcaster Matt “That British Guy” Alder? You’re welcome.

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Canadian Thanksgiving traditions with turkey or Swiss Chalet, we celebrate with no covid restrictions this year. Being with family felt great.

Ryan Renynold’s may have a new girlfriend. Tune in next week for updates.

Job boards are like popcorn, popping up everywhere. It’s easy to get employers to advertise, but not so easy to get job seekers to find your site. A healthy advertising budget may get you noticed, for a little while. 

Insights

Beware the imposter interviews and the dangers of letting your new hire loose with no training or orientation. 

The ultimate woke move by Birkbeck, University of London, they stand on the higher moral ground and proclaim their ‘ethical careers policy’ to ban oil, gas or mining companies from posting jobs for their students. 

Canada’s federal government will finally treat foreign students as adults. Ever cautious, the pilot will temporarily lift the 20 hours per week rule for them to work while going to school.

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Over 8 million workers in the U.S. identify as LGBT. Spoiler alert: That's a lot! Yet, corporate America isn't very hospitable to this influential demo when it comes to work. In fact, a recent UCLA survey found 50 percent of LGBT employees are not 'out' to their supervisors, and 34 percent of LGBT have left their job due to treatment by their employers. What's the problem? Never fear, we have answers. That's why we invited Sara Grossman, founder & CEO of CODE-MKTG, and Sabrina Kent, EVP of programs and external affairs for the National LGBT Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC) to come on the pod and set us straight. Did we learn a lot? You bet we did. And you will too.

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Albert Einstein once said, "I have no special talent; I am only passionately curious". I like this quote so much that I use the phrase "Passionately Curious" as the tagline for my consulting business. So you can imagine my delight then when I came across a book on workplace curiosity written by Stefaan van Hooydonk, the founder of The Global Curiosity Institute, who is my guest this week.

A former Chief Learning Officer, Stefaan has done some pioneering work on the science behind curiosity and why improving the skill of curiosity is essential in the modern world of work, both at an individual and organizational level. 

In the interview, we discuss:

The story behind the Global Curiosity Institute

Intentional curiosity

Why and how you can train curiosity

The importance of curiosity to organizations

Measuring curiosity on an individual and organizational basis

Creating a curious culture

Awareness, Intentionality and Measurement

The importance of learning something new

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Serge's family in Florida escaped the hurricane but not without property damage and lost cars but everyone is safe. A big high five to Joe Hoang, fan of the show, for taking down the “We’re Hiring” badge on LinkedIn and replacing it with something authentic. Check out Joe’s post here:

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Lessons in hiring for gig workers, where to find the best sites and what to watch for in the work samples. 

Recruiting Insights

Were we all part of a sinister experiment by LinkedIn? Hardly. The LI community is free to join, so that means your information is the product.

Job ads for a Nanny. Comedy writing at its finest? We had a good laugh until we realized 95% of job ads look just like this. 

Survey says, “75% of Gen Z bailed out of the recruiting process”, it appears the issue for summer hiring in 2022 was not candidate ghosting, your hiring process was the real problem.

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Maya Huber, the CEO & co-founder of TaTiO. She holds a PhD in occupational therapy, with main expertise in the fields of job analysis and the future of work. Maya has 15 years of practical and research experience managing HR companies focusing on work inclusion of vulnerable population groups.

Maya worked in the HR industry for years and met thousands of job seekers and recruiters who struggled for a good match, making it clear that a change had to be made. Together with her partners Mor Panfil (COO) and Nir Familiar (CTO) and their extensive experience in building tech products, the team is designing a new mechanism of hiring.

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If you were building a perfect podcast episode, what ingredients would you include? An acquisition? Some VR? And a side of offshoring? Well, today’s your lucky day, because Lieven and the boys cover all that and much more on The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe.

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The winds of change isn’t just a killer Scorpions' tune from the ‘80s. It also defines recruitment marketing in 2022. Pay transparency is trending, TikTok is on the top of every employers’ lips and CEOs actually stand for something … both good and bad, depending on how you view the world. Jump on and enjoy the ride, as Julie Calli, President at RecruitmentMarketing.com President joins Chad & Cheese to dive into what’s hot.

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No need to get into specifics, but we all know about the walk of shame. Turns out, corporations aren't immune to taking the proverbial shuffle home, still wearing last night's now-wrinkled clothes. Just ask Indeed, who's become Google's latest corporate conquest. Don't worry, it'll make sense, just have a listen. Also, this week, Calendly gets in the employment game, the nursing shortage is real (but we have solutions) and Walmart tries to hypnotize the metaverse-lovin' youth of America (spoiler alert: it doesn't go well). Then it's time for a little Buy-or-Sell with TurboHire, Hofy, and Remofirst. You're welcome.

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Covid’s impact, how companies can use benefits to keep employees on board and how they evolve to meet the times.

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As talent acquisition rapidly adapts to disruptive times, innovative ways of working and new technologies are being adopted at an unprecedented pace. So, where are the most successful TA teams focusing and what are the mindset shifts we are now seeing in the industry?

My guest this week is Will Staney, founder of Proactive Talent and co-founder of industry community The Talent Brand Alliance. Will has a long history of innovation in talent acquisition and shares his insight into the short-term and long-term strategies the most successful TA teams are currently building.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of the market

Staying lean and nimble while adopting best practices

What are the most successful TA teams focusing on

Retention, culture and brand

Working on short-term and long-term simultaneously 

Optimization, automation and augmentation

Agile RPO

The rise of the gig economy in talent acquisition

Game-changing technology

The link between employer branding, DE&I and profit

Human-centric recruiting and the future of talent acquisition

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Maureen “Mo” Berkner Boyt. Mo is the Founder and CEO of The Moxie Exchange. She’s spent over 30 years helping organizations grow by creating inclusive workplaces where talented people can thrive. She has leveraged the power of technology to build scalable, actionable, measurable inclusion tools, including the first-of-its-kind comprehensive diversity and inclusion app, Everyday Inclusion. Everyday Inclusion was named a solution that infuses DEI into daily operations by Forrester Research and has been called, “the future of diversity and inclusion.” Mo hosts a weekly live cast with DEI practitioners to amplify work being done in organizations of all sizes and industries providing the DEI community an accessible, ongoing avenue to learn from one another.

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The boys recently held a private event at HR Tech for around 40 people with ThisWay founder and CEO Angela Hood. Luckily for you, the mics were on, so we caught the whole conversation, just for you. We discuss what happens when you become a Google accelerated startup, what unbiased recruiting really looks like, the dos and don'ts of crowdfunding, and much more. It's like you're a fly on the wall. Enjoy.

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DEI is failing. That's the opinion of Dr. Tiffany Brandreth, and that's also why we had to bring her on the podcast. Among the topics Chad & Cheese discuss with "Dr. T" include 1) why leaders are simultaneously advocating and oppressing DEI efforts, 2) how oppressive decisions have no consequence and are concealed through visible DEI activities, and 3) what the five unconscious biases are leading DEI yet driving it into the "death zone." What's the "death zone"? Gotta listen. It's a no-holds, honest take on the state of DEI in Corporate America.

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With continuing skills shortages and massive disruption to how and where work is done, it is not surprising to see innovation as employers start to think differently about talent. Fractional hiring is rising and has some significant benefits to employers and employees. But what is it, how does it work, and how is it different from traditional interim and contract hiring?

My guest this week is Matt Widdoes, CEO of Mavan. Mavan is a globally dispersed network of specialized former growth leaders at iconic tech brands working fractionally, and Matt has some unique insights to share on this growing trend.

In the interview, we discuss:

What is fractional hiring?

Recruiting as the key to growth

The current state of the talent market

Specialist talent as a resource that can be turned on and off

Benefits for organizations and the implications for the career development of individuals

The mindset shift employers need to make to use fractional working successfully. 

Decentralized talent pools

The kind of roles that can be fractional

How is fractional different from interim and contract?

What does the future of work look like

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The HR Tech Conference hangover is cured and it's back to business. Fortunately for you, there's a lot of cover. Namely, big funding for Polywork, Atlas, The Muse gets lots of of attention, followed by some Buy-or-Sell with Gig and Take, Knoetic and Ashby. Spoiler alert: Selling, lots and lots of selling! Oh, and robots ... gotta talk about robots.

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The trip to HR Tech gave us tons of ideas and trends we are excited to share with our listeners over the next few weeks. Next trip, FutureWorks 2022 in NYC hosted by Indeed. Expect more great insights on where Indeed is taking their products. Serge excited to announce he acquired the DisruptHR License for Halifax!

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If your job ads describe your company culture as ‘we’re like a family’ you may want to hire a copywriter. 

Some job ads are blatant discrimination - asking applicants to be ‘digital natives’? Seriously, that can only mean one thing.

The latest research on Cost Per Hire, where does your company line up?

Freedom 55, those cheesy commercials from the 1980’s worked! Nurses and truck drivers are bailing out.

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This is a special cross-over episode with The Talent Savvy Podcast hosted by Bas van de Haterd and Marlies Farrill. It was a pleasure to join them for a conversation about the latest thinking in candidate experience, undoubtedly an evergreen topic in talent acquisition.

If you've not listened to the Talent Savvy podcast before, I would highly recommend subscribing for a great mix of informed opinion and practical advice.

In our conversation, we discuss:

Why candidate experience isn't an object to fix

An automated personalized experience at scale

Technology innovation and unchanging human nature

Differing attitudes to feedback in North America and Europe

Do we have the right tools to provide quality feedback?

Consistent and regular communication

Motivation and targeted marketing

Examples of employers who are getting things right

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How data’s used today, the role of innovation in analytics and user-friendly data.

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DailyPay's global chief innovation and marketing officer looks at the business and its future.

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Believe it or not, minimum wage debate is not exclusive to the U.S. Europe, it turns out, has their own set of issues, so it's no surprise European Union lawmakers have adopted new legislation aimed at guaranteeing “decent” minimum wages for all workers across the 27-nation bloc. The boys discuss and come up with a variety of angles to view the challenges faced by the EU. Then it's Buy-or-Sell with Benivo, MVP Match and GoJob (spoiler alert: things get pretty ugly). And how could be not talk about the queen the week following her passing ... we just do it in a way only The Chad & Cheese Podcast can.

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This week in HR technology: Workday launches new skills technology; SuccessFactors adds to HXM to help execute integrated talent strategies.

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Ever feel like your performance reviews are stuck in the 1940s? Well, you're not alone, but it's probably time to join the party and jump into the 21st Century. That's why we invited Confirm.com on Firing Squad. This company, led by CEO Josh Merrill, the former CPO at Carta, thinks they have the answer to give employee review software a big refresh. Blame the Millennials. And yeah, they have some well-funded competitors that might have something to say about their success. Don't worry, we'll get into that. Can they pull it off? Gotta listen to find out.

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I've never known a more disruptive, uncertain and confusing time in talent acquisition. With so much complexity in the market, it can be challenging for TA talent to get a clear picture of what is happening outside of their own organisations.

My guest this week is Sven Elbert, Senior Analyst at Fosway Group. Fosway is Europes leading HR industry analyst and has recently published its Talent Acquisition Realities 2022 report, a piece of research that looks at the key challenges, trends and forces TA teams are currently dealing with. This is a must listen for anyone wanting an independent view of what is going on in the market.

In the interview, we discuss:

Stand out findings from the research.

The impacts of uncertainty on hiring

Quality of hire

What TA teams report they are most and least effective at

How is DE&I working in practice?

Current market changes

Availability of skills

The most in demand recruiting technologies

Are tech stacks currently fit for purpose?

Conducting the candidate experience orchestra

Upskilling recruiters

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Viva Las Vegas! The boys are in Sin City this week at the HR Tech Conference, so there’s a lot to unpack. First, it’s shoutouts galore - featuring HireEZ, ThisWay, FactoryFix, Dice, and many more - as the world gets back to in-person events. Then it’s time to dissect news of the week, highlighting Reejig and Joonko raising money while Paychex gives new meaning to the word innovation … NOT! Now, keep it quiet while we nurse these hangovers!

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It's been awhile since we could attend conferences, so we made up for lost time. The days were packed. Lots of demos, interviewing founders and a few parties, we had our fill, so we are ready to say farewell to Vegas. Rookie mistakes: giving Serge coffee - he turns into a speed walker. Shelley tries to be fancy with her shoes and the fallout is blisters over 80% of her toes. Good thing there was a place that sold Birkenstocks nearby. 

Highlights of the Show: . Other than the founders at the event, staff in all booths were less than 1 year working at that company. Very few had ever worked in HR Tech before. Its buyer beware!

Lots of wrap around technology for the TA tech space to compensate for the complex and generally useless HCMs we bought in the 2010’s

Talent Intelligence is the new buzz word

Pitchfest for start ups in HR Tech left us scratching our heads

Ton of more content on it's way!

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Many employers are focusing hard on diversifying their talent pools at the moment. It has been encouraging to bring so many stories to the podcast about employers working to connect with historically marginalized groups and embracing more open approaches to hiring. However, diverse hiring is pointless without addressing equity and inclusion at a systemic level within organizations.

My guests this week are Dr Tina Opie and Dr Beth Livingston, authors of the soon to be published book "Shared Sisterhood". Share Sisterhood embodies a practical methodology that gives employees a starting point with diversity, equity, and inclusion. It inspires employees to explore their personal assumptions, build connections and take collective action.

In the interview, we discuss:

Shared Sisterhood as a radically optimistic philosophy

Power dominant and historically marginalized groups

Addressing equity at a systemic level

Building authentic connections with people who are different to you

Where to start with DE&I

Dig, Bridge and Collective Action

The difference between equality and equity

Metrics and accountability

Ally versus Accomplise versus Co-Conspirator

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Effectively attracting, selecting and hiring people from underrepresented and marginalised groups is something that many employers aspire to. Unfortunately, only very few have the right strategies and resources in place to be set up for success. Having the right partners to work with is critical if companies are to truly understand the needs of the communities they want to work with.

My guest this week is Roy Baladi, Founder of Jobs for Humanity. Jobs for Humanity works to connect historically underrepresented talent to welcoming employers via training and technology, and Roy has some extremely valuable insights to share. 

In the interview, we discuss:

What is Jobs For Humanity?

Advantages of hiring diverse talent

Diversifying the TA funnel

Designing a fair hiring process

Challenging personal bias

Onboarding, inclusivity and safe spaces

Making simple accommodations

Recruiting refugees

Brain diversity

Why DE&I is still at the early adopter stage with employers

Intention and action

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This week in HRTech: 1/3 of workers plan to quit despite a potential economic downturn; HiBob, Remote integrate,, and more.

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Europe is largely an aging, over-regulated, polarized economy with immigration challenges and a war on its doorstep. That's the bad news. Now to the good news, as told by Intelligence Group's CEO and founder Geert-Jan Waasdorp: The Old World is a more equitable, tech-driven, dynamic economy that's on solid footing and filled with interesting startups. But can he sell that rosy vision to Chad & Cheese? You need to listen to find out.

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Security issues employers are concerned about, how HR should stay on top and, of course, data.

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Maybe they're just well-rested from the Labor Day weekend, or maybe they're just antsy with HR Tech in Vegas next week, but the boys are pretty salty this week. After covering the big news of the week: Sense acquiring Skillate, the move-in for the kill, covering news out of ZipRecruiter, Jobadder, and California. It's all very fantastic! But never fear, we release some stress from the campus of Cannabis Community College. All's well that ends well. See you in Vegas!

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How lucky? Very. Its a good thing we didn't wait any longer to book our hotel for HR Tech or we’d end up at the worst place in the city, the Excalibur!  Love is love, when Serge takes the girls to the Calgary Pride Parade and keeps the candy for himself.  

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The latest Canadian HR report proves there is no labour shortage. 

Knowing what data to use to make great decisions is TA best skill to master.

Another headline grabber, the real story behind why an Alberta judge ruled in favour of the employer when Scaffolders tried quiet quitting when they refused to work overtime. 

California is days away from pay transparency in job ads becoming law in their state. Joining Colorado and New York City.

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We talk with Harver CEO Scott Landers, who recently made a notable move with the acquisition of pymetrics..

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House of HR? More like House Party of HR! Big announcement this week, as our buddies from Belgium announce the acquisition of four - yes, FOUR - businesses, including France's StaffMe and Germany's LD Personalvermittlung GmbH. Don't worry, we'll explain everything. If that's not enough, the boys play Buy-or-Sell, weighing in on startups deskbird, Catch, and nPloy. Spoiler alert: Lots of sell ratings. Ending the podcast is a salute to Poland and their "chance of a lifetime," compliments of Ukraine. Shoutouts include a dash of Irish gold, In Truss We Trust (Maybe), and wait, there goes my hero!

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In this week's HR tech roundup: LinkedIn Partners on certifications; @Achievers Integrates for mobile and more.

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The battle to be the Swiss Army Knife for all things hiring is real. While many vendors may serve as your pocket scissors, can opener or toothpick, few can promise every feature while also delivering the goods. Sense (www.sensehq.com) claims to be that Swiss Army Knife, providing all things from the top of the funnel to the bottom. Do they deliver on that promise? You'll just have to listen, now won't you?

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Some of my favourite discussions on this show have been with employers driving diversity, equity, and inclusion, not just because it is the right thing to do but because they are using their DE&I strategies to solve specific business challenges.

My guest this week is Graham Briggs, Head of Apprenticeships & Employability Programmes at Greene King, the UK's largest pub retailer and brewer. The hospitality sector has had an extremely challenging few years. Greene King has been running some incredible programmes to reach diverse talent pools and deliver positive outcomes for their business and the communities they work with. 

In the interview, we discuss:

The recruiting challenges in hospitality

Challenging perceptions about career development

Employability and social mobility

Communities and values

Untapping potential

The importance of C-Suite support

Partnering with external organisations to reach out to new pools of talent

Delivering positive outcomes for young people

Building confidence and focusing on wellbeing

Working with prison leavers

Support, development and retention

Business outcomes and results

Working with other employers to lobby government

Advice to TA leaders looking to build similar programmes

Plans for the future

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The importance of culture, the real need for cultural solutions, and how analytics contributes to it all.

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It's a jungle out there. Inflation is still running rampant while unemployment remains historically low. Some companies are saying get back to the office, while some are saying never come back again. And some businesses in our space are seeing incredible carnage, while others are riding high. The real sign of the apocalypse though? LinkedIn thinks its solving the inclusion problem. It's enough to wish you had free beer. Mass hysteria, buy-or-sell, LinkedIn-sanity and free booze. You're welcome!

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We reminisce about what September means, new school, new backpack, new friends, new teacher and of course the end of summer.

We are honoured by our listeners who put their hand up to share their TA struggles, lessons learned and of course, their opinion! Great fun episodes ahead.

Recruitment Insights

The final word on the definition of Talent Acquisition versus Recruiter

Men make 48% more than women in some sectors of the gig economy. Let’s weigh in on why that is.

Recruiters getting caught in layoffs - again. If you are a contract recruiter, this is another reason you need to charge more.

Our very own Canadian TV network hides behind their lawyers as they try to cover up the firing of a beloved news caster who dared to wear her natural grey hair. Imagine having a staff of journalists and keeping them all silent over this. Not going to happen

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye check in with T. Tara Turk-Haynes, the VP of DEI and Talent Management at Leaf Group where she oversees Leaf Group’s diversity, equity, and inclusion as well as hiring efforts. They discuss engagement surveys and other people processes- give it a listen.

T. Tara Turk- Haynes joined Leaf Group in 2016 as Director, People, where she led the company’s employee engagement, talent acquisition and learning and development programs. T. Tara has worked in Editorial at Variety Magazine, serving as a Project Lead for the Rizzoli book, "Variety: An Illustrated History of the World from The Most Important Magazine in Hollywood" by Tim Gray.

She has also worked at Metacloud (a Cisco company), Ticketmaster, NBC Universal, Sundance Channel, and Penguin Putnam. She is a first generation graduate from Eugene Lang College at The New School where she studied Social, Cultural and Urban Studies and Sarah Lawrence College where she studied theatre. Her work has appeared in Tamara Winfrey Harris’s “Dear Black Girl” - a letter to young Black girls from Black Women along with Tarana Burke and others. She has also been featured in Lars Schmidt’s “Redefining HR” book as well his podcast. She has been featured on several podcasts, panels, and workshops on equitable workplaces and hiring. She is also a playwright and most recently completed a Geffen Writer’s room fellowship.

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He’s seen the world of work from all its angles, and now he's going to help us put its changes in perspective.

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Work and jobs are changing, and the way companies select and hire people needs to keep up with this pace of change. We've always talked a lot about soft skills in talent acquisition, but what are they in the context of modern work, why are they important, and how can they be assessed?

My guest this week is Dr Alan Redman, Head of Science and Technology at Clevry. Alan is an expert in the definition, assessment and impact of soft skills and has some very valuable insights to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

Perspectives on the market and changing world of work

Understanding what employees want from work

What are soft skills in the context of modern work, and why are they important?

Adapting to change

How soft skills hiring can solve recruiting challenges

Skills portability and job design

Being a soft skills focused organisation

How to assess and measure soft skills

The future impact of AI on skills and decision making

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Katrina Collier, author of "The Robot-Proof Recruiter" is one of our favorite guests to have on. Aside from being a proud Gen X’er and sharing a birthday with Chad (same year and everything), she is a well-loved global keynote speaker, and host of The Hiring Partner Perspective (Unedited) podcast. We chatted with her when the 1st Edition of the book came out, pre-pandemic, but the 2nd edition is just as appetizing. In it, Katrina teaches companies how to recruit without an existing online presence, and she covers the unexpected impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on recruiting in detail. Oh yeah, and there are plenty of new case studies to discuss. Enjoy.

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In this week's HR tech roundup: LinkedIn launches 'Diversity Nudges," while Modern Hire unveils AI-driven interview technology.

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The U.S. Marines have made a career out of recruiting based on letting 18-year-olds know how tough and challenging becoming a Marine actually is. It's a concept that can also work for businesses of all sizes. That's why we invited Charlotte Marshall, director, global employer brand & recruitment marketing expert & best selling author of “Give and Get Employer Branding Repel the Many and Compel the Few with Impact, Purpose and Belonging” on the podcast. In it, Charlotte reveals why the most effective employer brands don’t attract candidates; they repel them. This episode is part of our Cult Brand series, sponsored by RecruitmentMarketing.com and the boys are joined by Julie Calli.

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Reaching out to past applicants about new roles has always been a challenge in talent acquisition. Poor technology, tight timescales and inflexible processes have often limited the effectiveness of talent rediscovery. However, AI is now starting to drive some change, and talent rediscovery is becoming an ever more effective strategy.

My guest this week is Mike Watson, Head of Customer Advocacy at Eightfold. Before he joined Eightfold, Mike was a long-time Head of Talent Acquisition, and, in our conversation, he shares his unique insights into the benefits and practical results of AI-driven talent rediscovery.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of the market and the effect on talent acquisition teams

The threat of losing recruiter intellectual property 

Warm passive talent versus cold passive talent

What the ATS can't deliver

Driving ROI but reducing time to hire

Talent intelligence

Communication strategies and best practices

Which employers are doing talent rediscovery well

Where is the technology taking us next?

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How companies can nurture their culture, and why transparency is an employer’s friend.

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Quiet quitting, boomeranging and petitioning ... Oh my! This episode has it all. In addition to covering some of the hottest trends in work this week, the boys cover big news out of iCIMS and play some Buy-or-Sell with Sabanto, Growthspace, and Modern Loop (again). Plus, Lowe's latest news is a down-low, dirty shame, and Indeed gets into bed with TikTok. Your ears are already thanking you, aren't they?

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Always getting in the last word, Serge gently rebuttals Lou Adler’s belief that hiring good people has suffered because of the abuse caused and perpetuated by job boards. This is getting good, Shelley will be bringing popcorn to watch this.

Staying at the Luxor in Vegas for HRTech, trying to be optimistic that a hotel who neglects the lobby & everyone’s first impression will be an OK place to stay. Live reports will be filed from Vegas.

Insights of the Week

Consider 3.8 million Canadians have a criminal record. Very few are Prison Mike (ref: The Office, Season 3, Episode 9). Is this a hidden talent pool?

Quiet Quitting its just about setting boundaries with your employer; how dare you???

Now that we are fully transparent with the pay rate on job postings, Recruiters need to have the tools to explain how the range is decided when we are making the offer. 

4 great tips from Tim Sackett on email titles no one can resist opening.

Congratulations to our friends at PLUM.io for winning the 2022 HRTECH award.

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To say that the talent acquisition market in the tech sector is complex and fast-changing at the moment would perhaps be a bit of an understatement. So how are big tech companies developing employer branding strategies that help them solve their shifting challenges, and what lessons can employers in other sectors learn from them?

My guest this week is Ashlee Gerow, Senior Manager, Employer Branding at Hubspot. I've always been a massive fan of Hubspot's sophisticated and innovative approach to talent acquisition and employer branding. Ashley is very open about their recruitment challenges and how a dynamic approach to employer branding is being used to address them.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current tech hiring market 

How employer branding is being used to solve recruiting challenges at Hubspot

Developing a highly targeted strategy

Cutting through the noise

Advanced persona work

Is who you are externally authentic to who you are internally

Understanding where you are not converting and adapting accordingly

How the pandemic changed Hubspot's approach

Working with cross-functional teams and being deeply connected across the business

Making sure the EVP is consistent throughout the entire candidate journey

Using employee's stories to show, not tell

Employer Branding as a constant marketing machine

The role of data and technology

Moving quickly to adapt, sprint and change

The future of employer branding

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In this episode, we talk to Jackye's boss and co-founder of Textio, Kieran Snyder!

The Textio platform helps with inclusive and equitable communications. After earning her PhD in linguistics at Penn, Kieran spent a decade creating the world’s most impactful language products at Microsoft and Amazon. In addition to developing linguistic capabilities like spelling and grammar-checking for more than 100 languages, she led the large-scale effort to integrate the Bing search engine into Microsoft Windows. Kieran is a world-renowned expert on language and bias at work, and her writing has appeared in Fortune, The New York Times, Slate, and the Washington Post.

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Fom helping determine where a company’s at to initiating new programs, data grows in importance to DEI efforts.

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Love a good ole fashioned unicorn cage match? How about some buy-or-sell with three of Europe’s hottest recruiting startups? This episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Dies Europe has all that, featuring HiBob, Personio, Haystack, RoleShare, and more. We even throw in chicken Big Macs, dancing PMs, and the state of healthcare recruiting vendors on the continent. Lieven and The Boys bring their A-Game to this one. Enjoy.

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Steve Pemberton is Best Selling Author, Philanthropist, Acclaimed Speaker, and Senior Level Executive. He wasn't given a chance in the world; he proved them wrong. Steve's chance is now focused on change. In this interview we talk about the pace of change, the fluidity of change, scaling belief and purpose, the end state of remote work, the future of equity, who was responsible for getting companies through the pandemic, and more. 

Steve was not given a chance in the world and now he's changing it. Enjoy!

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This week in HR tech: HiBob raises $150 million; HireRoad acquires PeopleInsight, and more..

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ADP's chief of product inclusion on how software can be inclusive and how the industry works to achieve make it happen. .

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The pandemic changed many aspects of talent acquisition and perhaps none more so than onboarding. With many people spending less time in their employer's physical offices, how have TA and HR teams evolved their onboarding processes to forge a sense of belonging, develop relationships and ultimately increase productivity and retention?

My guest this week is Sharawn Tipton, Chief People Officer at LiveRamp. Over the last few years, LiveRamp has developed a strategic and very intentional approach to onboarding, and Sharawn has a lot of insight and advice to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

Shifting from a transactional approach to one that focuses on building relationships

Providing an immediate sense of belonging

The impact of the pandemic on onboarding and retention

Employee Resource Groups

Wellness and mental health

Starting onboarding before the hiring process even starts

Culture

Moments that matter

How important are the first 30 days

Personalization of experience

EVP & expectations

Lesson learned and having a growth mindset.

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Congratulations, you got the job! No one ever forgets the first time they heard (or read) those words. So happy to report that Shelley’s GenZ is officially employed. BIG SHOUT OUT to David Smith at ENMAX for making the referral.

Insights This Week

Recruiter Abuse. Some candidates can be down right nasty and the keyboard becomes their weapon of choice. Don't put up with a disgusting response from a candidate, make your HR Manager deal with them.  

LinkedIn triumphantly proclaims they are helping to solve DEI by alerting recruiters with Diversity Nudge. It only applies to male/female ratio, so….. the balloon just popped. At least they are trying.

Post the pay range. Colorado led the way, so let's hear what happened 18 months later when you compare them to a state without pay transparency.

7 deadly sins of interviewing. These examples are cringe worthy yet we’ve all been witness to what happens when hiring managers are let loose with no interview guide. 

Crying on LinkedIn; the ultimate in employer branding.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Michelle Ngome about inclusive marketing. Michelle is the founder of Line 25 Consulting, an agency that helps organizations with inclusive marketing strategies. She is the recipient of the Houston Business Journal Diversity in Business awards for her efforts in creating the African American Marketing Association (AAMA). Her contributions have been featured in numerous publications including The Wall Street Journal, Entrepreneur, and Forbes. Michelle is a two-time author and podcaster. Currently, she hosts the Marketing for the Culture podcast powered by AAMA.

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One company's approach to a dispersed culture.

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Your life really isn't complete until you've gotten a complete breakdown of the past, present, and future of recruiting chatbots. That's why we asked PandoLogic CTO Sumit Gupta on the podcast to get a breakdown. Turns out, that chatbot may not be the correct label, considering job seekers have interviews with virtual Brad Pitt and Darth Vader to look forward to. Yeah, really. You gotta listen to this episode if you want a real taste of the future of recruiting. Or at least one company's vision of it.

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This week in our HR technology roundup: Namely integrates with Slack, UKG's new CEO is bullish on revenue and more.

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There is no labor shortage. At least that's the position taken by Sean Behr, CEO at Fountain, a solution for industries with high turnover. Nope. There's a SPEED shortage, instead. What the hell does that mean? The boys dig into his theses and tackle a wide variety of high frequency hiring issues plaguing so many companies these days in the process. A must-listen for employers having issues hiring truckers, nurses, restaurant staff, warehouse workers ... yeah, OK, pretty much all essential workers.

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We talk about the dynamics of contingent work, the mindset of contingent workers and how their experience shapes up.

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Maybe we should have named this episode Three Acquisitions and a Vendor Moving to Crazy Town? Remember the '80s movie "Three Men and a Baby"? This episode could be called "Three Acquisitions and a Vendor Who's Lost Their Damned Mind!" Silkroad Technologies acquired Entelo, Harver bought pymetrics and Mitratech gobbled up TalentReef. Can you guess which acquisition we like? Gotta listen. Then we take a trip to Crazy Town, where old-timey job distribution service provider eQuest has made the mother of all pivots, and the boys can't quite make sense of it (but want a hit of whatever they're smoking'). Oh, and Home Depot ends the show with a bit of sanity and common sense. Enjoy!

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Deciding to join the recruitment community on Reddit should include a review of the community guidelines. 

Speaking of understanding the community, more annoying posts on LinkedIn. The top 6 plus bonus material; what peeves Shelley & Serge the most. 

Recruitment Insights of the week

Reference checking, do it right or don't do them at all. Next on the horizon is social media checks; time to clean up your ancient twitter account. 

If you want a salary increase, you have to quit. You are losing money if you stay.

July jobs numbers and unemployment at its lowest since 1979, this summer is shaping up nicely.

Who is building the Delorean of the ATS? Our friend Elon at Tesla, that’s who.

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What Turn does, how it tries to rise above industry buzz, and the role AI plays in its product plans.

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Europe is surging! Travel is way up, the cash is flowing and employers of all shapes and sizes are embracing the continent, in light of Covid being in the rearview mirror. Most notably, London is the world's hottest new destination for employers and innovative companies, while Spotify is giving us a blueprint for increased retention, greater diversity and salary equality. Why, exactly? Gotta listen. And if that wasn't enough, the boys sit down with Elke Moerenhout, a marketing manager at Jobat, one of the top job boards in Belgium, to chat about the importance of employer brand and how to harness it in the fight for top talent.

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Modern Hire launched two new features intended to improve both the client and candidate experience, and more in our weekly roundup.

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Make yourself comfortable, boys and girls, because it's story time. On this episode, the boys bring Tim Dineen, co-founder, and chief innovation officer at Recruitics on the show. For those who don't know Tim, he was also the search engine optimization brains at Indeed back in the 00s. It's fair to say Indeed wouldn't be Indeed without Tim, which is why we rev-up the "way back machine" and pull back the covers on the early days of Indeed, as well as what the future may hold. For those who aren't students of history, don't worry, we spend plenty of time talking about the current state of recruitment tech and the future.

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Empowering organizations to improve engagement and performance

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If Chad & Cheese ever opened a restaurant, this episode might give you an idea of the menu items. In addition to talking about the acquisition of Lever by Employ (Jobvite, JazzHR), layoffs at you favorite companies, and Tesla putting its ATS in the rearview mirror, food and beverage take center stage. Big news out of Taco Bell, Chik-fil-A, and your favorite beer distributors. Kinda job-related. Anyone else hungry?

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In the heart of the summer but Talent Acquisition news doesn't stop!

This week’s insights

Where is Employ headed with scooping up all the best ATSs under one roof? Lever is the their latest acquisition, making Employ the largest provider of TA solutions.

In the age of the Influencer, it seems like everyone we talk to is trying to figure out what the difference between personal brand and employer brand is. 

Pros and Cons of the RPR designation. OR maybe it is time to over haul the program content.

Indeed’s announcement on posting your pay rate; unless you were living under a rock, we all saw this coming. Get onboard or get hit by this train.

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In this episode, we dig into the research that Ericka and her team have done! And it's good!! Can't wait for you to hear all about it! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

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Modo Labs CEO Andrew Yu on how employers can put no-code development to use.

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In this week's roundup: EdCast integrates with Zoom, Alexander Mann launches RPO, and more. #

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Don't believe the headlines. Hiring competent developers is still really, really challenging. One start-up that's helping solve the quandary for companies is Turing, who - by the way - has already raised $153 million to cure what ails employers. Jonathan Siddharth, CEO and founder at Turing, joins the boys to discuss what makes Turing different, how Upwork gets it wrong, and why pay transparency and equality are still such a hurdle.

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Safeguard Global CTO Duri Chitayat explains how he helps companies do business on distant shores.

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If you love burritos, pizza and virtual reality - and who doesn't - then this episode's for you! Or should I say if you love automation, call centers and workforce training, this one's for you? Oh hell, you'll just have to listen if you're not following. What else? Job.com goes shopping and its CEO gets salty with the media. Glassdoor may not be as anonymous as it wants you to believe and we play a little Who'd Ya' Rather with HireArt and InternMatch. Now, put that in your Barbacoa Bowl and smoke it!

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HRTech - Serge and Shelley are going!  

The update on what our millennial is encountering in her job search; empty promises and crickets. Getting that first job is tough, willing to work but no experience. The struggle is real.

Recruitment Insights

Shopify, the Canadian tech darling is reducing their workforce and you guessed it - recruiting is hit along with customer support and sales. They are putting a big blanket around their product building teams - no surprises there.

The biggest bust of illegal workers in Canada, Fairmont Hotels & Resorts take the walk of shame, hiding behind their statement of ‘we did our due diligence’. It's unlikely they got 3 bids on that contract. Can anyone find a trace of the temp agency One Team? They vanished faster than water in the desert. 

The blame game continues, employers complaining, “no one wants to work anymore”, trace that statement back to 1894!

The research confirms it, out of 1,000 hiring managers, ⅔ admit they are failing to fill their vacant positions because they are forced to only hire candidates with a degree. Some sectors like tech and healthcare are rethinking it - certifications might be as relevant as degrees for entry level jobs.

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye meet with Ericka Hines, who is the Principal of Every Level Leadership. Ericka is an advisor and strategist who works with organizations to align their commitment to inclusion and equity with their everyday actions and operations. She has worked with government agencies, nonprofits, and foundations across the country to help their staff and stakeholders learn how to create an inclusive culture. To date, Ericka has trained over 10,000 individuals in skills that will help them be more equitable leaders for their teams and organizations.

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Women returning to work, the challenges they face and how they can continue to develop their careers.

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Bullhorn Develops Taste for European Startups After stints in places like Scotland, Portugal, and Finland, the boys are finally back behind and microphone and ready to drop some European recruiting knowledge. That means a deep dive into the state of, and some disagreement on, young workers on the continent (spoiler alert: big differences between the north and south), then dissecting the recent acquisition by Bullhorn, gobbling up A.I. recruiting solution SourceBreaker. Plus, a little Buy-or-Sell with Veremark, Distributed, and Screenloop (which recently got angel investing from an Indeed cofounder).

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In this week's HR Tech news roundup: Investment in work tech drops; ChartHop launches compensation reviews, and more.

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Grant Messick, vice president of customer success at Akasa, looks at how staffing challenges get in the way of healthcare.

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After a 2-week hiatus, the boys are back from Recfest and some R &R in Europe and ready to rip shit up. In their crosshairs? CareerBuilder, Remote.com, SHRM, SmartRecruiters, and even Burger King all feel the burn. Plus, a conspiracy theory from Chad, a 20-year Army veteran, on the state of military recruitment you don't want to miss. It'll be like they never left. You're welcome!

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The only thing better than being at RecFest, which was a mind blowing experience, would be if Serge could have been there with Shelley. 

Meeting all the global influencers in TA and those who supported TRF’s from day one was certainly a hilite. 

AND Hung Lee needs a better photographer - his picture does not do him justice, he’s much better looking in person.

Insights this week

Behind the bold claim of every university on how many of their graduates find work; the fact is they never say how many found work in their field of study. We throw the curtains back to reveal 34% of grads could have landed the job they had without a degree. 

The boomerang is coming back at the New Zealand employer who plans to sue a former employee for a negative review on GlassDoor.

Scammers are popping up like pimples on a teenager. We spill the tea on what our listeners are experiencing!

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Video technology and where it’s going, redefining use cases to strengthen what users can get done, and more.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak to Ryanne Fox, a former colleague of Katee's. She shares her personal journey of transitioning at work. It is a story you don't want to miss and we hope you learn, like we did.

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Most reunions suck. You have to pretend to look younger, more successful, and skinnier than you really are. And then there are those stupid name tags with your senior picture on them. Don't even get me started. Anyway, other reunions - like Firing Squad reunions - are awesome! That's why we invited Firing Squad alum Honeit, and their CEO Nick Livingston back on the show after 4 years to see how things are going. Spoiler alert: They're going pretty well. How well? Gotta listen.

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In this week's HR technology roundup: Visier pairs up with Deloitte, ClearCompany links up to UKG, and more.

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The future of work, its impact on HR, how employers apply technology to the labor market, and how bad tech encourages workers to head for the door.

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What three tech trends do you see holding the limelight this decade? Chad & Cheese recently joined the podcast Tech Talks to discuss the hottest topics in recruitment. Time to get enlightened on what is set to trail (and fail) in tech today! Spoiler alert: Automation is here to stay, and more than that, more than 50% of jobs could be replaced by automation by 2030! Check out the hot takes on what the boys think employers need to keep an eye on, AND, what you may need to drop!

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We talk about Cornerstone OnDemand’s acquisitions of EdCast and SumTotal, it’s leveraging of content, and more

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For as long as employee assessments have been around, they're still largely a mystery to most employers. Sort of like witchcraft or a pagan ritual from the Middle Ages, most companies enter the assessment game with a lot of confusion and fear. That's why we invited Plum's Caitlin MacGregor co-founder and CEO on the podcast to make sense of it all and relieve listeners from the pain assessment tests can sometimes bring. We're talkin' death of resumes, threats to employer branding, and being stuck in World War II technology. Don't worry. It'll all make sense, and you'll feel a lot better if you're in the market for assessment solutions. Plus, Caitlin is Canadian, which means her commentary goes down as smoothly as a cold Moosehead or a warm serving of maple syrup. You're welcome, eh.

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In this week's HR technology roundup: Cappfinity launches expanded suite of immersive VR experiences; how tech streamlines HR's work, and more.

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Humans have been telling stories for as long as we've been around. So, it's no surprise employers who tell the best stories are typically the ones who get the best workers. It matters. That's why we invited Patrick Hodgdon, VP of marketing at hot startup FactoryFix on the Cult Brand Series with RecruitmentMarketing.com's Julie Calli to explore what companies are doing right, and most importantly wrong when it comes to storytelling.

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Looking at the changing workforce, how employers addressed Covid and how HR has evolved.

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This episode is dedicated entirely to Beyonce's new song and whether Jackye is having Whataburger for dinner. We talk through "Break My Soul" and why it is what every person needs to hear right now.

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Jim Buchanan talks about diversity, today’s labor market, and more, on this edition of PeopleTech,

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Independence Day is upon us and this week’s show is more exciting than an alien invasion, minus the Will Smith. It’s full of tragedy: 27 states’ employment websites have suffered a cyber-attack. It’s got takeovers: Deel acquires a foothold in APAC. Lives being saved: Nomad Health grows its healthcare pie to empower nurses nationwide. Cash money: Pave hopes to bring salary management to a global workforce. It’s even got nuclear-powered hotel flights and some Josh Bersin bashing (Chad’s favorite). You’re welcome. Commence the fireworks and chill the PBR!

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We are joined by Allie Knull as our cohost this week, with some big news to share about ResumeFree - now an official MicroSoft world wide product.

Insights this Week

The phone screen is an outdated concept for hiring millennials, like we had to point this out to you? Using simple tech shows you aren't out of touch. A shout out to @Aritizia for doing this well.

Big companies really don't want top talent, they want obedient rule followers.

Job ads that say remote work but really are not. There’s no law against false job advertising but the real consequences are being discussed all over the internet. Dumb move 

Roe V Wade and the long term consequences to the world of work.

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Measuring the impact of talent marking in a way that aligns with the rest of the business and demonstrates value for the c-suite has always been challenging. TA leaders often find themselves judged by measures and outcomes they don't fully control, which are impossible to translate into business value.

So how do you prove the business impact of recruitment marketing and employer branding, particularly in such volatile times?

My guest this week is Nick Thompson, Global Talent Marketing Leader at IBM. Nick and his team have been working on this issue for a while and have devised a way of measuring the value of talent marketing that resonates with the C-Suite and provides a laser focus for optimisation and improvement. 

In the interview, we discuss:

The scale of recruiting at IBM

The current state of the global market for tech hiring

The shortcomings of existing talent marketing metrics

Speaking the same language as the rest of the business

Measuring where you have ownership and control

What is the time to apply metric, and how was it developed?

What insights does time to apply enable?

Mapping onto business value 

The reaction 

The levers that reduce time to apply

Removing the reasons why people don't click apply

The role of employer branding

Advice to TA leaders

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. What’s it like to be a diversity officer? That’s what we talk about, on this edition of PeopleTech.

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If you heard a B-list actor, but an A-list corporate spy was on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, would you listen? Well, today's your lucky day. The boys welcome Robert Kerbeck, author of "Ruse: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street," to the podcast. Through a career that started in the '80s, peaked during the Y2K scare and continues today through folklore, the podcast explores tips and tricks - not only for corporate espionage - but for recruiting / poaching, job searching, and even corporate security. Oh, and there are stories about O.J., Madonna, and Steve Jobs too. Enjoy.

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This week in HR tech: Visier launches its Resignation Report, Cappfinity expands its VR and more in our roundup.

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Is the future of recruiting entirely automated? Is it more of the same? Some think it's a hybrid. That's why we invited Joss Leufrancois, CEO of Visage, to come on Firing Squad and tell us about their solution which helps combine the best of both worlds. But is A.I. and traditional sourcing a match made in heaven or are they on a collision course to the depths of hell? Ooooh, dramatic. 

Gotta listen to find out.

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Data, performance and technology and what they mean for employees.

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Who doesn't love a good underdog story? The upstart hoping to make noise in an established market. That's why you'll love this weekly episode. Jobget looks to take on Jobcase and Snagajob with a new round of funding.

Fountain puts on the gloves to fight against the Old Guard ATS business.

Cornerstone OnDemand acquires an old business to supercharge a new one.

Buy-or-Sell with

-- CEIPAL, Wilco, and Canditech is full of startups looking to dislodge the status quo. ...and then there's Amazon, which really doesn't fit the underdog narrative, but hey, did you expect perfection from this podcast? Of course not. But we throw in some shrimp Po' Boys to make you feel better about life. Enjoy.

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We are feeling the effects of the madness in the tourism industry. Flight cancellations and the other alternative is 30+ hours to get home put a damper on Serge’s plans. He will be home alone, as the girls go on vacation, Serge will be a lonely dad or maybe the party is at Serge’s place?

Recruitment Insights

Demand for travel smacked down the major airports who are reliant on humans to unload planes and check in passengers. Even with time prepare, it appears airlines failed to get their house in order to meet demand, yet the price triples to fly?

Staggering turnover numbers will bring Amazon’s distribution centres in major US centre to a stand still. TA saw this coming, recruiting warehouse workers with no human intervention then treating them poorly, you will eventually run out of people to hire. 

Taking employer brand to new levels the CEO of the bitcoin exchange, Kraken publicly announces he is the devil you know. Candidates will vote with their feet on this company. 

Appcast releases their spring update. Slide 5 is proof that your register to apply process is repelling 96% of people who want to apply.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee discuss coming back to the office and why it impacts marginalized groups. And ask the overarching question of WHY?

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Partnering with employers to identify and prepare employees for better-fitting roles.

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Summer is officially here and things are really starting to heat-up in Europe. Adzuna and Textkernel just made some really interesting acquisitions. TestGorilla wants to be, um, the 800-lb. gorilla in the assessment space. And Paris-based CleverConnect has "merged" with Munich-based Talentry in what is destined to become another marriage made in heaven between France and Germany (insert sarcasm). Lieven is out sick this week, but Bas Van Haterd from the Netherlands is here to fill-in.

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Okay people, aren't we asking way too much of recruiters? Source, outreach, schedule, interview, provide a white glove experience and don't forget about creating, distributing, and engaging on original and genuine content. Wait, content?  Well, on this week's Cult Brand podcast Chad and Julie bring employer brand veterans Chloe Rada and Allison Kruse to discuss practical recruiter enablement tips and tricks. From winning hearts with data to filling minds, equipping hands, and winning hearts.  You're welcome!

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In this week's HR technology roundup: ServiceNow boosts AI tools; women felt most impact from Covid-19 pandemic, and more.

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Bringing performance management into technology’s modern world, and the role tech plays in today’s solutions.

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While Joel wanders the Canadian plains petting Moose and trying to convince Canadian geese to stay in Canada we are honored to have Jenny Cotie Kangas, aka JCK, stepping into the guest host slot and on this week's show EUROPE is HUNGRY, the world will soon be over now that Google's version of Skynet is ALIVE, Microsoft is kinder and gentler and who knew business coaching was so damned important? Who knew? Strap-in kids it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee discuss coming back to the office and why it impacts marginalized groups. And ask the overarching question of WHY?

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Simply pays a lot of attention to things like the Great Resignation and the attitude of the workforce.

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Life is getting pretty stressful for workers. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt have us all on edge. That's why the health and well-being of your employees have taken on new importance. Enter Amploi.ai, and its founder Trung Tran, who's busy building a company to make the health monitoring of workers a snap. Confused? Just think of your Apple Watch letting your employer know when you're stressed out, so they can give some support. Sound like an invasion of privacy? You might be on to something ... or not. Gotta listen to see what Chad & Cheese think.

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Unicorn alert! 🦄🦄🦄😍 Multiverse, a startup that hopes to make apprenticeships commonplace, has joined the ranks of the billion-dollar valuation club. And the boys are as excited about it as the Marvel Multiverse ... maybe even more. Less so enthusiastic is Ripple Match, who also just raised a bunch of cash to help college kids get jobs (stop us if you think you've heard this one before). Fizzy drink Bubly embraces the LBGTQ community and Buy-or-Sell with Hourly, Teal and Five to Nine is played on this episode as well. And capping off a solid effort, a pet psychic is proving once again that a sucker is born every minute.

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Life with kids keeps Serge’s schedule hopping. Those days are becoming fond memories for Shelley as she reminisces about all the cool things her kids did. 

Recruitment Insights:

Tesla employees are exploring their options as the hammer dropped on get your butt back to the office mandate. Employees will vote with their feet as AirBnB offers just the opposite. 

Lifting off a discussion on LinkedIn this week, was a group of white guys demanding proof in the form of scientific studies to derail all the good work done by the likes of Sandberg and her book Lean In. Recruiters don't need a study, we are living the truth on how problematic terms in job ads discourage many diverse groups from even applying. Here’s your proof: https://gender-decoder.katmatfield.com/

QR code revival! Smartphones have made the QR code a viable option in recruitment advertising. Just don't get carried away and start putting it on billboards, unless you want traffic accidents on the road as people try and scan it while they drive. 

Serge’s prophecy has come true. Canada is on the fast track for a nationwide pay transparency mandate. Yes, our tiniest province PEI put law into effect on June 1, the rest of the country is soon to follow.

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Polly’s CEO Bilal Aijazi is our guest. He talks about why competing firms can be a market opportunity, engagement and how fluid software changes quickly with the times.

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All around the world, debates about hybrid and remote working rumble on as employers and employees experiment to find mutually agreeable and effective ways of working. There is a lot of noise in the debate around the future of work, and I really want to cut through this. With that in mind, I'm going to focus the next three episodes of the podcast on the future of work, exploring the real issues, looking at the practical solutions that are being put in place and taking an informed look at what the future might look like.

My first guest in this mini-series is writer, speaker and consultant Julia Hobsbawm, author of the brilliant book "The Nowhere Office". In her book, Julia explores what is happening at the moment in the context of workplace changes over the last few decades and examines the current issues to help map the future. 

In the interview, we discuss:

Reimagining and reframing how we work

The four phases of work since 1945

How the pandemic has accelerated trends that were already there

The complexity of hybrid

The real challenges with developing the next phase of work

Undoing assumptions and old norms

The challenge for talent acquisition

Autonomy, flexibility and networks

Thinking strategically to improve wellness and mental health.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee are joined by the dynamic duo from the HR Social Hour- Wendy Dailey and Jon Thurmond. We get personal about fat-shaming, why we love HR (even when we don't somedays), and why everyone should be a part of the ice cream revolution going on right now!

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I'm a firm believer in looking outside the talent acquisition universe to see what lessons we can learn from other disciplines and areas. Elite sport is always an interesting parallel as selecting and developing talent is a critical aspect of building a winning team.

My guest this week is Mehdi Kordi, the coach of the Dutch national track cycling team. The team have had a massive amount of success in recent years, including winning three golds, a silver and a bronze at the last Olympics, despite having considerably fewer resources and less funding than some of their competitors. It was fantastic to hear first-hand from Mehdi how they have achieved this, and there are some very valuable lessons here from TA leaders everywhere.

In the interview, we discuss:

What makes a good coach

Managing riders, employees and partners

Getting the best out of people

How do you spot talent?

The importance of resilience

The mental versus the physical

The role of technology

Running a world-class team with limited resources.

Collaboration and partnerships

Using culture to drive performance

Clarity and transparency

What does the future look like for track cycling?

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On this week's Fromage-free show we have insider reactions to the "Bain Capital House of HR Party", then the UK revives the spirit of Florence Nightengale through technology, and wait... Are we still talking about job boards? You're goddam right we are... Buckle up kids, it's gonna be a bumpy ride...

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Imagine being behind the scenes during brand crisis hiring situations at Uber and WeWork. Literally the basis for "We Crashed" or "Super Pumped" mini-series. This type of experience should come with a diploma. But seriously, Employment Brand veteran Andrew Levy joins the Cult Brand podcast crew and shares stories and tips on how to hire in a brand crisis. Plus, thoughts on unwinding and reengineering process and tech stacks, candidate rediscovery, and answering questions around global EVPs.  Welcome to baptism in brand crisis with an episode worthy enough for We Work Jesus, enjoy!

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Juno CEO Ally Fekaiki talks about keeping the company on track during the pandemic, and what the future looks like as move on

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Everything is changing very quickly in talent acquisition, and many employers are struggling to keep up with the ever evolving best practices that are driving results. It's a critical moment to get a helicopter view of what talent acquisition strategies are working and the successful attributes of the highest performing recruiting functions.

My guest this week is Janet Mertens, VP of Research at The Josh Bersin Company. Her organisation has recently published an independent report on Human-Centered Talent Acquisition which looks at the strategies and tactics successful talent acquisition teams are deploying in these challenging times.

In the interview, we discuss:

The background and methodology of the research project

A perfect storm in talent acquisition

What business practices are having the most significant impact

The critical business issues talent acquisition is addressing

Being bold, creative and human-centered

Intentional experience design

What truly drives competitive advantage

Attracting and retaining top talent

The importance of authenticity and consistency in EVP and employer branding

The role of recruiters as talent advisors

Recruiting technology

Levels of talent acquisition maturity

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It's a house party, ya'll! House of HR party, that is. The company just received funding from Bain Capital in return for 55% of the organization. But if that's not unicorn-y enough for you, Guild just joined the $4+ billion valuation club. What else? Elon says get back in the office, Recruit Holdings of Indeed and Glassdoor fame embrace women (in a good way, sickos!), CEO pay is out of control and Chili's introduces Rita the Robot to more locations nationwide. Pass the Old Timer with Cheese, yo!

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A stress free graduation day and Shelley’s takes another spin around the sun. Celebrating milestones on today’s episode.

Recruitment Insights:

Google has created the best trail of breadcrumbs that software developers can't resist. That's showing us how it's done!

Introducing the best new Canadian startup YRPlans.com. At last, a real disruptor in the employee benefits space, drop the RRSP/401K plan. 

Hot recruitment trends are served. The top 3 technologies TA leaders plan to add this year.

James Ellis gives us a leg to stand one, well 4 legs actually. Ask these questions and you advance your employer brand.

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We talk about analytics and bias, AI (of course) their new book, called Decoding Talent.

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In this episode, we start the conversation with a little bit of current events and the ongoing trauma. We share resources for this episode on our Instagram page.

Then we get to dig in with Savina Perez, who is the Chief Customer Officer and co-founder of Hone, the all-in-one talent development platform for modern teams delivering live learning at scale to enable behavior change, human connection, and continuous development.

Prior to founding Hone, Savina led growth marketing and operations at several venture-backed B2B tech companies based in New York City and San Francisco including Curalate, Incapsula, and Smartling, and has deep expertise in all aspects of B2B growth, sales and marketing. Most recently, Savina was VP of Marketing at CultureIQ (acq: ParkerGale Capital), a culture management platform for the enterprise market. Savina is passionate about amplifying the impact of the world’s next generation of leaders, DEIB initiatives, and supporting her team and customer base to bring it all together.

Savina’s areas of expertise include building high-growth organizations and equitable access to learning, entrepreneurship, and management development. She and her family live in Brooklyn, NY. Savina is a graduate of Boston University.

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Vegas, baby! Talking Velocity Global, Wells Fargo, California Pay Transparency, WorkReels and the Unleash Roundup, live from the Lobby Bar! Can you tell we haven’t been let out in awhile?

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We look at what employers are most concerned about, the consequences of employee burnout and the dynamics of PTO.

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We are joined by Leah Sobering as co-host, long time friend and all around great human being. Leah is responsible for introducing Shelley & Serge! On the eve of her departure from Calgary to Halifax, she made the huge life decision to quit her job, sell her house, pack up the cats and move! There’s guts!

Insights this week:

Beyond the boring metrics of time to fill, we sat in the CEO chair to measure what matters to them. 

Debate or no brainer - the ‘Open for Work’ badge on your Linked In profile.

Remote work and the corporate culture you are in will determine if you thrive or get over looked for promotions.

Some people think job boards are dead. Take a look at ZipRecruiter and Indeed’s Q1 revenue will tell you just the opposite.

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Hidden data may be critical to a business by giving people access to information they need to be more effective.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee are blown out of the water by some things and need some time to process. Please bear with them as they try to work through the topics they are covering. And yes, Katee might cuss in this one- she can't help herself!

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The one theme that has come over very clearly in the conversations I've had with talent acquisition professionals in the last 12 months is the relationship between speed and quality in the hiring process.

Speed is currently a competitive advantage which means many employers are focusing intensely on speeding up their hiring process. However, quality of experience and quality of hire are still critical, so how do you speed up talent acquisition and improve quality at the same time.

Earlier this year, Mervyn Dinnen and I joined forces with the team at Metaview to work on a piece of research to see if we could answer this question. We spoke to employers who are successfully improving both speed and the quality of the talent acquisition to distil the mindset, strategies and tactics they are using to solve this complex challenge.

We recently published the results in a whitepaper, and I'm delighted to welcome Germaine Yokoyama-Heiliger to the show to discuss the findings. Germaine is a People Experience and Operations consultant who was previously Chief People Officer at several high growth tech companies. She was one of the people we interviewed during the research, and she has some very valuable perspectives to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of the market and the background to the research

Can you increase speed and improve quality at the same time?

How difficult is it to overhaul the recruiting process?

Being ready to hire and running a great process

The importance of talent management

Talent intelligence and data

Being transparent and legitimate

Partnering with leadership

Human to human interaction

Using technology to understand what works, what doesn't work and what training is needed

What does the future look like

Download the full report here

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Empowering your team with flexibility and choice just got a whole lot easier. That's the promise of startup Philly-based Lluna, who offers flexibility and choice for employees ... whatever the hell that means. Can founder and CEO Jess Podgajny explain all that jibber-jabber and survive the Firing Squad? Gotta listen to find out.

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Diversity in hiring is a critical issue for all employers, but many are still struggling with it. So who is doing it well, and how much of a role can recruiting technology play in diversifying talent pools.

My guest this week is Shaun Daly, Head of Resourcing at The Open University. Over the last few years, The Open University has been increasing the diversity of its organisation by rethinking how it does hiring, building an inclusive employer brand and deploying point solution technology which helps to enable these strategies.

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting challenges at The Open University

Operating with legacy systems

Developing a compelling employer brand

Anonymous recruiting and diverse interview panels

Making the candidate experience more engaging

Recruitment marketing automation

Online events

Talent pool segmentation

Future innovations

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t's a world full of good news ... and a growing amount of bad news. No surprise, the world of work is no different. And Chad & Cheese are here to talk about it. If you're Indeed, ZipRecruiter and Dice, like Styx sang, these are the best of times. If you're Amazon, a pregnant woman, most CEOs or someone with a disability, it might be the worst of times. It's good for Aliro, A.Team, and Mathison, who just raised money. Lastly, for Carmen Electra, the jury's still out, but for OnlyFans, it's always a party. It's a downer of an episode until it's not. Enjoy ... but not too much.

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Jason Putnam, CRO at PLUM.IO joins us as a special guest co-host. Throughout the show, Jason steps up on his soapbox and we were just loving what he has to say

Recruitment insights this week

As NYC and California regulate the use of AI in hiring, we believe there’s no monster in the closet who scares the hell out of candidates, in fact, taking humans out of hiring is something we won't see in our lifetime.

Engadget | Google AI is a free tool, it's supposed to help you practice for a job interview. Its still no substitute for the real thing, talking to a screen is nothing like being in a panel interview

Another dating analogy this week - it was more like the history of matchmaking from the year 1500 to Tinder. Made sense to us. There is no lack of supply, there’s candidates everywhere, the problem is matching people and their wage expectations.

You get what you ask for. Do candidates exaggerate their salary, their education or finesse around why they left their last 3 jobs? Are Recruiters to blame? After all, saying ‘we will keep your resume on file’ isn't exactly the truth.

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This is part two of my mini-series on personalization. So to recap, I feel very strongly that personalization is the new Megatrend in Talent Acquisition. Offering personalized recruitment marketing, candidate journies, assessments, feedback, onboarding, and communication will be critical objectives for employers over the next few years. Candidates are demanding it, the technology is here to facilitate it, and the amount of friction that will get removed from recruiting processes will be a win for candidates, recruiters and hiring managers.

So what is possible, and how are employers dealing with the practicalities of personalization in talent acquisition?

A few weeks ago, the awesome team at Paradox invited me to speak and record some interviews at their client board event in Scottsdale, Arizona. Paradox is a technology that is really driving the progress of personalization. It was very insightful to talk to some of their clients about the need for personalization in their TA processes and the change journies they are taking their recruiters and hiring managers on to make personalization happen.

In this second set of interviews from the event (check out Episode 435 if you want to hear the others), you'll hear from Derek Braun, Staffing and Recruiting Manager at GoWireless and Steffanie Chaviano, VP of Talent and Patient Access at Autism Learning Partners. Derek and Steffanie talk us through their experiences of using conversational AI to transform the effectiveness of their recruiting strategies. First up, though, is Adam Godson, Chief Product Officer at Paradox, talking about some of the psychology behind conversational interfaces.

These are some of the topics you'll find discussed in this episode:

Personalisation at scale

The psychological elements of conversation design

Using conversation to drive processes

Connect with people, not software

How technology is affecting recruiter career choices

Handling high volumes of applicant flow is an engaging way.

The importance of being user friendly for hiring managers

What does the future of talent acquisition look like

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We talk about how recruiting’s changed in recent years, and look at some dynamics of the workforce. .

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How the talent market’s changed over the last few years, how companies approach diversity, and the joys of product integration.

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Jackye and Katee welcome Elena Joy Thurston back to the show to discuss some new tools she is developing for companies as they navigate non-binary workplaces. As usual, Elena Joy brings her experiences and knowledge to the table to make us all think about how we work with others and create inclusive spaces. Thanks for listening!

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This week in HR technology news: PE investment in iCIMS, Defense contract for Eightfold AI, and more in our latest roundup.

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There are a lot of surveys out there. But very few of them have a track record going back 13 years. That's why we invited Employ, the new parent company of Jobvite, JazzHR, and NXTThing RPO and their CMO Allie Kelly to the show to dive into their 2022 Job Seeker Nation Report. The three big themes discussed: The Great Resignation, Automation, and Remote Work (and yes, ghosting came up too). You've got questions? Here are your answers.

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We talk about making use of tens of millions of records, and whether analytics in HR deserves all the attention it gets.

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Those of you who have read my book Digital Talent (available wherever you get your books!) will know that I feel very strongly that personalization is the new megatrend in talent acquisition.

Offering personalized recruitment marketing, candidate journies, assessments, feedback, onboarding, and communication will be critical objectives for employers over the next few years. Candidates are demanding it, the technology is here to facilitate it, and the amount of friction that will get removed from recruiting processes will be a win for candidates, recruiters and hiring managers.

Two weeks ago, the awesome team at Paradox invited me to speak and record some interviews at their client board event in Scottsdale, Arizona. Paradox is a technology that is really driving the progress of personalization. It was really insightful to talk to some of their clients about the need for personalization in their TA processes and the change journies they are taking their recruiters and hiring managers on to make personalization happen.

I'll be sharing these interviews over two episodes of the show. Later in this episode, you'll get to hear from Adam Chen, Chief Marketing & Experience Officer at The Amenity Collective, Rachel O'Connell, VP of HR at Great Wolf Lodge and the return to the show of Victor Gains SVP of Talent Acquisition at Aveanna Healthcare.

But first of all, I sat down with the amazing Madeline Laurano, Founder of Aptitude Research, to get her views on the drive towards greater personalization.

These are some of the topics you'll find discussed in this episode:

How technology is driving personalization

Creating experiences through conversation

High volume recruiting challenges

Significantly reducing time to hire

Change management

Building a consumer grand candidate experience

Using personas to differentiate the employee value proposition

The role of technology in personalization

Implementing technology

The future of talent acquisition

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Facebook is in a hiring freeze, crypto is crashing and Uber says it’s going to "treat hiring as a privilege" as a way to cut costs. What, us worry? Hell no. Deel, Rippling and iCIMS are raising money, enjoying some rare, unicorn air and in the news this week. Aspiring unicorns are raising cash too, and the boys play a little buy-or-sell with Manara, Certn and HireLogic. Lucky for them, Chad is enjoying his new digs in sun-filled Portugal, so Buy ratings are aplenty in contrast to Cheese's middle-American bitterness. What the boys can agree on, however, is recent commercials from Mod pizza and Upwork. What's more? This week's shoutouts are particularly entertaining, so don't skip the intro, kids.

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Shopping at Lowes is Shelley's idea of a great Mother's Day and she got her wish. We get some insights on why Freshii's virtual cashier idea might not be the solution for the staff strapped food service industry. Recruitment insights

Should we be Paying corporate recruiters commission?

Want to be a recruiter for a FANG company, we've got the recruitment process insights here!

Is it bust time for the tech industry?

If you want to close the deal you better talk money upfront!

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Employer branding has always been important, but it is now absolutely critical to employers if they want to connect, engage and influence in demand talent. Employer branding isn't easy and for larger organisations building a global employer brand is a significant undertaking.

So how do you make the business case for employer branding, and how does employer brand activation work amid all of the challenges 2022 poses for employers?

My guest this week is Marije van der Togt, Head of Employer Branding at Just Eat Takeaway.com. Marije is highly experienced at building successful employer brands across multiple countries and has a massive amount of valuable insight to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

Challenges of becoming one company with one story

Evolving recruiting challenges

How strong consumer brands create challenges for employer brands

The importance of culture in candidate choice

Why invest in a global employer brand?

How employer brand strategy enables the business strategy

Storytelling and linking authentic people centric stories to EVP pillars

Strategically positioning podcasting as long form content.

The role of data and technology

Segmentation

Advice to other employers on developing a global employer brand

What does the future look like?

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We talk about the Great Resignation and its impact, how employers are reacting, and more.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Zach Nunn about his podcast, the work he is passionate about and how to be better. Zach is a respected DEI expert, with a deep understanding of the challenges employees experience and the intersecting factors that lead to disengagement, attrition, and PR crises. And he is a "table shaker". Enjoy!

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Hangovers and jet-lag be damned! The show must go on. That's why the boys connected after the conference in Ostend this week to chat a little Euro news and breakdown the week in Belgium. Adecco was in the news for bringing on a new CEO. Losing 50 percent of its stock value probably wasn't a good thing for the guy he's replacing. Jobandtalent has embraced acquisitions as a way to spend its hundreds of millions in investment. This time, a Norwegian staffing firm is on the menu. And yes, as promised, the boys wrap-up the conference with takeaways, teaching and teases for next year. Enjoy, and pass the Alka-Seltzer while you're at it.

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In this week's HR tech roundup: Qualtrics launches Employee Experience ID, Employers prioritize DEI hiring, and more.

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We talk about the movement of analytics into HR, the notion of providing access to end users, and some recent moves the company’s made,

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Recording live from Ostend, Belgium, ahead of the House of HR conference, the boys are in the kind of zone only a pint of Chimay can inspire. LinkedIn loses again and Comparably says it’s probably time to stop thinking Glassdoor is vulnerable (and chalk up another acquisition where terms aren’t disclosed). The boys then play a little buy-or-sell with BarRaiser, Valence and Pando “Don’t Call Us Logical.” Nike vs. Airbnb wraps up the show making us question which WFH policy will rule the future (hint: it rhymes with “hairbnb”). Oh yeah, and you gotta about the boys wild Amsterdam adventure with sponsor Textkernel. Cheers!

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As Kim Wilkinson decompresses from her 15 minutes of fame, that was, over 6,000 people from around the world signed up to hear her talk about building a personal brand; she is gearing up for the next best thing - The Canadian Recruiter Networking Group on May 26! Other than being the lowest of low, can a company rescind their offer of employment with no reason given? And yeah, you quit already quit your job? Let’s unpack this with a bold and underline disclaimer. We are not employment lawyers

Recruitment Insights 

Ground rules for Agency Recruiters, the service you provide to candidates is the key to success. Establishing a mutually beneficial relationship is the foundation of building your brand as a recruiter.  

Try and follow this rant, as Serge does his level best to parallel dating life to why so many people who changed jobs earlier this year are suffering the guilt of leaving a good thing when they had it. 

A moral debate or reality check, having university degree does not equal success on the job, on this we all agree. The latest survey of HR professionals who see experience as a greater asset than having a university degree; following…..

You cant fix old school thinking, bad culture and competitive job market with a new recruitment process. The difficult conversations we have every day in recruitment.

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We discuss the challenges of incorporating data into hiring , how that impacts recruiters and what’s doing with Talview’s roadmap.

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Employment branding is hotter than ever. Thanks Great Resignation! However, as our special guest James Ellis, host of The Talent Cast podcast and senior manager at Recursion says, "We're all just figuring it out as we go along." That's why we brought him on this episode of the Cult Brand series with RecruitMarketing.com's Julie Calli. We dig into the state of the profession, how Covid changed everything and what role technology plays in building a strong employment brand.

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This week: Workday aims to help with ESG, while Salesforce and Slack launch a joint toolkit. And more.

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After over two years of unprecedented disruption, it has become evident that things have changed forever. However, many employers are still attempting to stick with the talent acquisition and employee experience strategies they had before the pandemic.  So what are the dangers of behaving as if nothing has changed, and how should companies now set their strategies for the long term?

My guest this week is Amanda Black, Director of Inclusive Search at Good Works Consulting. Amanda has wide-ranging experience in talent acquisition and DE&I and has some expert insights to share on the long term impact of The Great Resignation.

In the interview, we discuss:

A disrupted talent market

Shifts in the employer/employee model

Revealing inequalities in the system

Permanently changed expectations

Long term solutions and The Great Opportunity

How successful employers are shifting their employee experience

Modelling and demonstrating values

Are companies taking DE&I seriously?

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We talk with Shay David about the labor market, automation and the changes in store for business,

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Beamery me up, Scotty, and get that Delorean to 88 MPH! This show is heavy, and not because there's something wrong with the earth's gravitational pull in the future. No, it's because we have an acquisition of some company called Flux and an update on the HiQ / LinkedIn legal drama. Plus, Predictive Hire is changing its name and the boys play a little Buy-or-Sell with Crafty, Beatrust, and Vivian (sounds like a party we attended back in '94). Anyway, it's another can't-miss weekly episode of HR's most dangerous podcast. You're welcome.

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What is the limit in asking for favours? Clients who always want something for free or friends who need help moving - again. Money seems to draw the line in both, perhaps we are just too Canadian and cant say no. 

White Hot brand A&F takes the walk of shame having the most sickening hiring practices. Worse yet is the fact they documented everything. Nothing like leaving a trail of evidence. They’d never survive in the age of social media.  

.Freshii locations in Toronto outsource their cashiers to a call centre in Nicaragua. Nothing to see here, this too will flop under the microscope of social media. $3.75 USD an hour just isn't a good look for any corporation according to Shelley but Serge sets her straight by doing some research and realizing that's double the average wage in Nicaragua.

There’s an app for that. Don't waste your time creating 50 personalized in-mails that only 5 people may respond to. 

Over 50 and choosing not to work. With better health than previous generations, 50 is the new 40? Face facts, if the labour shortage is real, it seems ridiculous to overlook older workers. Who’s with me?

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The challenges of 2022 are causing many organisations to think very differently about talent. The employers who are getting it right are looking holistically at talent acquisition, development, retention and attrition to create the opportunity to build a talent dense organisation. So what does this look like in practice, and how can your company get there?

My guest this week is Taylor Roa, Director of Talent at Wistia. Wistia is a growing technology company with an incredible culture and a big focus on talent density. They also use video as their superpower to showcase their unique employer brand.

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting challenges at Wistia

Meaningful work and culture versus cash and compromise

Using video to represent the company culture authentically.

Making a competitive advantage of putting people first

Becoming a talent dense organisation

Why retention is not about trapping people

Being a business that it is good to be from

How the pandemic has changed work

Advice on getting more from video in employer branding

A defining decade in the future of work

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We talk about the past and future of on-demand, virtual coaching.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee talk about the ongoing violence against Asian Americans & Pacific Islanders. But we want to share resources that will help find a solution, not just talk about it. Below is a link to Right To Be, one of the training tools we want to highlight, but listen to the full episode to hear them all. Hate has no place here. https://righttobe.org If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf

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What's your favorite brick-related song? (She's a) "Brick House? "Another Brick in the Wall"? Maybe Ben Folds' simply titled "Brick"? Anyway, startup Bryq is hoping they'll be your new favorite "brick." Don't worry, we'll cover the name and URL - among lots of other things - on Firing Squad when CEO and co-founder Markellos Diorinos enters the pit to take on HR's most dangerous podcast. Diorinos says his company is "a unicorn-to-be." Oh, really? Well, we'll be the judge of that.

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In this week's HR technology roundup: Oyster hits $1 billion valuation, Striver attracts new money from Accenture, Workday.

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Coming down from the high of the recent iCIMS acquisition of CandidateID, former CEO Adam Gordon of CandidateID and Mike Wilczak, chief product & development officer at iCIMS, join Chad & Cheese for the "morning-after" recap of the deal. Included are tips for startups who want to be acquired, whether it's better to buy or build your next feature set, and what the future looks like for iCIMS and CandidateID customers alike.

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With a growing number of use cases, people analytics continues to develop both in sophistication and the amount of value it drives for employers. However, despite the quantum leap in recruiting technology we've seen in the last few years, I still feel that talent acquisition is significantly lagging behind where it should be in terms of data and analytics. 

My guest this week is Vic Akosile, an HR Strategy Consultant at Humananalytics. Vic is a highly experienced people analytics specialist. He gives us an excellent overview of what is going on in the space and what talent acquisition leaders need to consider if they want to develop their data and analytics capability.

In the interview, we discuss:

The evolution of People Analytics

Cutting edge use cases

Increasing digital interactions mean increasing amounts of data.

People Analytics in talent acquisition

How to develop more sophistication in People Analytics

What trends is technology driving

Using sentiment and network analysis to help with retention

Where is People Analytics going in the future?

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Skuid CEO Ryan Niemann talks about the impact of low-code development on HR and technology.

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Tired of hearing about unicorns in the recruitment space? Doesn't matter, because the parade of glitter-pooping horses continues this week with a double-banger that includes Oyster and Clipboard getting to that billion-dollar valuation. Next, two companies worth well north of a billion, Apple and Starbucks, are in the news, both dealing with unionization efforts from employees. What else?

Hirevue passes the buck,

California goes after A.I. in recruiting

New York State says YES to transparency in monitoring employees.

Then a few tequila shots end the show.

It's roughly 45 mins. you'll never get back.

Sorry, not sorry :)

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The world of in-person events is coming alive. We are feeling left out. Who’s in if we bring global TA thought leaders to Canada? Comments welcome.

Recruitment Insights of the Week

Despite all the hype around TA technology, Bersin Research proves the human part of the process, great Recruiters are the defining factor of finding and keeping great performing employees.

Remote jobs are king, for now. The upside, quality of life & the downside, the grass is not always greener. The great resignation is quickly becoming the great regret.  

Onboarding is not a short term HR thing. Getting it right is the difference between new employees staying or constant churn.

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Some of my favourite conversations in the last six months have been around inclusive hiring. Many people are doing brilliant work to support people from marginalised groups into the workforce, and I've learnt a lot from talking to employers like Timpson and organisations like The Bridge of Hope.

In this episode, we're going to explore what happens when an employer removes all screening, all background checks and all education and experience requirements from their hiring to be more inclusive. What are the advantages, the challenges, and the results?

My guest this week is Nykeba King, Global Head of Inclusion at The Body Shop. A few years ago, The Body Shop created an Open Hiring program to ensure they were being as inclusive as possible. It's a strategy that has produced some amazing results, and it is now giving them a unique competitive advantage in today's challenging talent markets.

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting challenges at The Body Shop

What is Open Hiring, and how does it work?

No background checks, no screening, no education requirements

How Open Hiring is helping The Body Shop in the current talent markets

Making recruiting more purposeful with "Targeted Recruitment."

Replacing scrutiny with trust

Removing barriers and removing bias

Implementation challenges

The danger of second-guessing someone's ability to do a job

Wrap-around support to build an inclusive workplace

Time to hire, performance and retention

What's next for Open Hiring

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We discuss the craziness of today’s labor market, as well the adaptive employee experience and the company’s approach to people analytics,

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In this episode, we discuss a few things that we can only talk about when we are together. Different spaces and together- how do we help others?

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The war in Ukraine continues to pull at the fabric of European economies and companies. That's why we invited Neill Dunwoody of Spryt and TechlinkUkraine to join the boys on his take and insight into what the war means for real people trying to escape the horrors of conflict and make a living. Lumped into Ukraine, we talk about how the war could be impacting Europe economies on a macro level, including companies who have to deal with employees in both Russia and Eastern Europe who take opposing sides. It's a messy world, but we're only getting started. Even messier, the episode veers into talking about a company offering "masturbation pods" for employees to relieve some stress. Yup, we went there.

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What happens when you get HR's most dangerous podcast together with the industry's most popular TikTok celebrity? Yup, insanity! The boys bring on Leigh Henderson, A.K.A., HR Manifesto, to reveal the secrets of TikTok success for employers. We also dig-in to hear Leigh's story of how she went from Fortune 100 executive to social media darling. We'd write more, but you people apparently have no attention span whatsoever ... thanks, TikTok!

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This week in HR technology: KazooHR, Go1 expand with acquisitions, ADP adds new capabilities to WorkMarket, and more.

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Background screen keeps getting more complex. And so does the technology behind it.

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Whether it's the Great Resignation or the Great Reset, whatever you choose to call it, it is undeniable that employers are currently finding it extremely challenging to attract and retain talent. So which strategies should companies be exploring to improve their odds in such a difficult market? 

My guest this week is Christine Wzorek, CEO and Founder of White Label Advisors. Christine is a highly experienced HR leader and has essential advice about building holistic human capital strategies to deal with these incredibly challenging times.

In the interview, we discuss:

What is driving the Great Resignation?

Employer engagement, happiness and fulfilment

Adapting to the new reality

Why talent acquisition needs to mirror sales

Treating candidates in a hospitality orientated way

Transparency in reward strategies

Scaling L&D with technology

Levelling the playing field for diverse talent

Gender equality

The future of talent acquisition and HR

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After a week of partying like he was 25 again, its good to have Serge back behind the mic.  Let’s keep an eye out for video evidence of why he thinks he is a good dancer after a few shots!

Happenings in TA this week.

Do you feel happy at work, most of the time? Indeed’s happiness score gives job seekers a bit more insight.

The world changed, in case no one noticed, perhaps it's time to refresh your EVP.

California introduces legislation for the 32-hour workweek. Following….

Let us get the door for you! Canada has always rolled out the welcome mat for international talent and Toronto has become the place for tech talent. Well done!

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I've been a keen follower of the Job Board market for several decades. It's been a market that has often been very slow to evolve, but the pace of innovation has increased considerably over the last few years. So what effect has the pandemic had on the job board industry, and what is its likely future direction?

My guest this week is Steven Rothberg, Founder and Chief Visionary Officer of College Recruiter. Steven has been in the job board industry since it started, and I could think of no better person to give us an update on the current state of the market. 

How have job boards evolved over time

The programmatic revolution

Recruiting marketing budget consolidation

How has the pandemic changed things for job boards

Why do job boards need to reduce the friction they are causing in the candidate journey.

Market consolidation

What is the future of job boards?

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee get to talk to Julien LeFort. Julien has a passion for developing people and for empowering them to learn, grow and discover their inner selves. His journey has taken him through the implementation of people development programs around topics such as culture and values, employee engagement, mentoring, training, leadership development, and building competency-based frameworks. We talk about this and about how to become more resilient.

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What performance management's changes mean for managers, employees. and performance.

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This week in HR technology: High-end recruiters make more money, hireEZ launches two services, and more in our roundup.

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Diversity, equity and inclusion are still on the tip of many employers' tongues. However, things like a global pandemic and a world on the edge of World War III have stolen a lot of the spotlight in recent years. So, do employers still care as much as they did just two years ago? It's something to consider, and that's why Chad & Cheese have brought back Barb Hyman, founder and CEO of Predictive Hire. And that's just one topic. If DEI is important to your organization - and you know it should be - then this is a must-listen.

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Expanding candidate pools, speeding up the recruiting process and diversity hiring are all key talent acquisition challenges in 2022. While technology is never a magic fix everything solution, it is becoming evident that as AI becomes more sophisticated, it can offer employers some of the tools needed to meet these challenges.

So what are the latest use cases for AI in talent acquisition, and how is it driving skills based decision making?

My guest this week is Andrea Shiah, Head of Talent Strategy and Transformation at Eightfold. Andrea was formerly Global Head of Talent Acquisition at American Express and has some unique insights into the development of AI in recruiting.

In the interview, we discuss:

What it takes to be successful in the current recruiting landscape

Modernising talent acquisition

Speeding up recruiting using skills intelligence and automation

The danger of leaving the strongest candidates on the table

Using adjacent skills to broaden candidate pools

DE&I and skills based decision making

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The changes in today’s workplace and the challenges of getting workers what they want.

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I know that many TA Leaders who listen to the podcast are currently scaling or rebuilding their talent acquisition teams. Market challenges and rapid advancements in the sophistication and availability of technology have changed the game for talent acquisition in the last 24 months. So how do you structure and scale a high performing talent acquisition team to meet the needs of 2022?

My guest this week is Alison Kaizer, Head of Talent at Lunchbox. Alison is currently scaling a talent acquisition team in a highly challenging market sector and has some practical insights on tech stacks, team structure, metrics and competitive advantage.

In the interview, we discuss:

The difference between a good TA team and a world-class TA team

The current market for tech talent

Communicating culture in a remote process

Putting technology at the centre and building a scaleable tech stack

How to find, assess and structure a TA team

What are the metrics that matter?

Using mission and culture to drive competitive advantage

What's next for talent acquisition?

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With Serge missing in action, Shelley and Kim take over the mic. We did our best to hold down the fort but we missed our little French friend! Kim was tapped to host some training by none other than LinkedIn! It's about time they took note of her Influencer style! Up for Discussion in this episode

Taking a page out of “The Talent Fix” by Tim Sackett, the DNA of a great recruiter. 

Time to hire is a useless metric in recruitment, the addiction to speed has consequences. 

Some sage advice from Kim, if you think it's time to hang out your own shingle as a Recruiter, be prepared to invest in yourself. There’s more to it than searching for candidates on LinkedIn!

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Did Chad and Indeed Just Become Best Friends? Think unicorn production is slowing down? Think again, because we not only have a new unicorn on this week's show, we have a triple-unicorn, baby! Welcome to the club, IntelyCare, and Remote! And speaking of remote, it's a topic that makes its way into the show big-time this week, as does idiot execs at Taco Bell, Google "frog boiling," and slider-flippin', onion ring fryin' and shrimp nibblin' robots. Surprisingly, Chad speaks kindly about Indeed's latest customer update .. wait, did I say "speaks kindly," because we really meant "full-on tongue bath"? And we even throw in "innovation" from Snagajob and Dice, with a game of who'd ya' rather? You're welcome, dear listener.

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Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.

Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:

Ep 415: LinkedIn & Career Breaks

Ep 416: Asynchronous Working

Ep 417: Optimizing The Recruiting Process

Ep 418: A Mindful Return

Ep 419: Speeding Up Hiring

Ep 420: The Project Economy

Ep 421: The Purpose Gap

Ep 422: Digital Talent

Ep 423: Perfecting The Candidate Experience

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee talk about the most impactful topics in DEI today. It is a don't miss episode!

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Since the pandemic began, Grayscale CEO Ty Abernethy's seen some interesting shifts in the way candidates and employers approach hiring, and getting hired.

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Axel Springer Needs a Fluffer Europe continues to be a hotbed of workforce news. That's why the boys brought on AIM Group's managing editor Pavel Marceux on the podcast. Pavel wrote a story entitle, "Metaverse hiring: A passing tech fad or future game changer?," so Boner Alert for Cheesman! Additionally, the boys discuss the state of Russian recruitment, Axel Springer taking a bigger stake of No Fluff Jobs out of Poland, Malt drinking up Comatch's milkshake and Hired increasing it's footprint by, oh, like, 100 countries. Listen up, and drink it up people!

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This week: Flexible, remote scheduling plays a big role in candidate decisions, Dalia relaunches, and more.

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Resumes are dead. Sourcing is pointless. Applicant tracking systems have failed us. At least that's the opinion of Maya Huber, co-founder, and CEO of Skillset, an Israeli-based job skills test platform. Is she right? Well, Chad & Cheese have some questions ... let's leave it at that. Have a listen and make up your own mind.

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Marketers make great bedfellows. Who knew? Candidate.ID and iCIMS, that's who. The boys dig into the hottest acquisition news of the week, plus review HackerRank's latest funding round. What else? Layoffs at a unicorn, a "GPS for your Career" and a job-related URL that commanded a six-figure price-tag. Say what? Lastly, porn star Bree Olson breaks down The Great Resignation like only a porn star can. Huzzah!

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It's now an obvious thing to say that the pandemic has created an inflection point in the future of work. However, understanding which of the current trends we are seeing will become the long term trends that shape this future is a challenge, particularly when demographics and technology also have a big part to play. 

To help me make sense of all of this and give us a professional opinion on how things might develop, my guest this week is Katy Tynan, Principal Analyst at Forrester. Katy specialises in both the employee experience and the future of work and has a vast amount of expert insight to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of talent markets

Demographic shifts

The working from anywhere trend

Breaking down generational stereotypes

Designing culture and working practices around employees and customers

The importance of listening

Values

What does the career of the future look like

The technology ecosystem

The importance of collaboration 

Managing uncertainty

What can we expect in the near term future?

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Friend of the show Adam Gordon gets paid. We we're excited to see that Candidate I.D sold to iCIMS as it looks like the perfect marriage!

What would happen if one of your co-workers slapped another?

Do you work with a bitter recruiter? About time they get fired

Employ Job Seeker Nations comes out and shares some insights https://www.jobvite.com/lp/2022-job-seeker-nation-report/

Candidates tell us that Linkedin Inmails are the least desired way to get contacted with by recruiters

Job Boards never die they just get stronger

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Delivering a high-quality candidate experience isn't easy, but it has arguably never been more critical with the recruiting challenges employers are now experiencing. Over all the years that candidate experience has been an industry talking point, what has become clear to me is that it is fundamentally a strategic rather than a tactical issue.

My guest this week is Carlos Fernandez, Director of Talent Acquisition at Houston Methodist. Houston Methodist puts innovation at the heart of its corporate strategy, and its approach to candidate experience reflects this. 

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting challenges in the healthcare sector

The quality of candidate care mirroring the quality of patient care

Standing out as an employer.

Candidate experience strategy

The "Know Me Experience" and voice of the customer research

The role of technology

Virtual chat, candidate capture and auto-scheduling

Using technology to connect candidates with humans quickly

Change management

The future of talent acquisition

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We talk with Josh Cohen, digital marketing director for the SMB services platform Upnetic.

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We talk about how learning is evolving, what works and what might not, and Virti’s approach to it all.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee have a conversation with Maia Ervin, Chief People Officer for JUV Consulting. Maia leads social impact, human resources, and company culture. She uses her experience as a Queer Black womxn speaking out against systematic oppression and inequities to foster work policies and culture that minoritizes folks can thrive in and be proud of. Her dream is to continue to provide platforms for young Black womxn to express themselves authentically without judgment. Fostering comfortable spaces where Black folks can express and create comfortably will always be top of the mind for Maia. Maia is a college graduate hailing from Queens, New York and she shares all the good stuff!

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Quit rates have reached record levels and employees are making their voices heard. But how can a company change the narrative and retain employees through empowering their people?   The lived experience of an employee working for Trianual is how founder and CEO Chris Ronzio defines culture and he's ready to bet $5,000 cash money that any aligned candidate will buy into his company and culture.  Wait a minute, is this really power to the people or a cheap publicity stunt? The numbers do not lie and the mantra of "Hold Us Accountable" can help hiring companies as they peer into the organizational mirror seeking answers. Will this type of strategy help your company thrive?  Trianual is thriving, listen to why.

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So today is the international publication date for Digital Talent, the book I've spent the last couple of years writing with Mervyn Dinnen. We're incredibly excited that everyone can finally get to read it and wanted to record a special show to discuss the themes and some of the significant learnings from our research. In a disrupted and technology-enabled world of work, the ability to attract, recruit and retain people with digital skills can be the difference between business success and business failure. Our book explores how employers can do this successfully.

I am absolutely delighted that Trish Macfarlane, host of the legendary HR Happy Hour podcast, has agreed to be our guest host and interview Mervyn and me for this episode. Enjoy the conversation!

In the interview, we discuss:

Why we wrote Digital Talent

How digital skills are critical to a company's success

Speed, quality and humanity in Talent Acquisition

Personalizing talent experience

Aspiration vs Reality

Hybrid, remote and talent intelligence

Work Tech trends

What are cutting edge employers doing to attract digital talent

Total talent thinking

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Learning platform WorkRamp raised $40 million, Compete raised $15 million, WorkHound raised $12 million, and more in our weekly roundup.

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Automation in the interview space is smokin' hot, and Indianapolis-based Qualifi is hoping the profit off the trend by providing automated phone pre-screening for healthcare pros, truckers, and more ... with the actual deep-dive interview done by humans. It's either a home run or a total face-plant, offering too little, too late in an ever-automating world. (What do you mean no video!?!?!) You be the judge. Actually, just let Chad & Cheese be the judge ... that's what they're here for anyway.

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As we all know, recruiting and retention are tough at the moment, and employers need to work harder than ever to acquire and keep the talent they need. Purpose is often talked about as a critical differentiator in employer branding, but what does that actually mean in practical terms?

New research from Cognizant has revealed just how important purpose is at work and has also highlighted a growing disconnect between employers and younger workers.

So what does purpose mean for Gen Z employees, and what should employers be doing to close the purpose gap. I'm joined this week by Eduardo Plastino, Director of The Cognizant Center for the Future of Work, to talk through the research and explore its implications.

In the interview, we discuss:

Defining the purpose gap

The increasing leverage of employees

Understanding what is important to the Gen Z workforce

Scepticism around employers' messaging on critical issues such as climate change and DE&I

Shared values

Implications for employers

How to fix the purpose gap

Aligning external employer brand communication with internal reality

Advice to talent acquisition teams on how brand, marketing and recruiting process can demonstrate an employer is a great place to work.

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Technology and Covid-19, how the pandemic’s changed candidate and employee behavior, and the challenges employers face in today’s labor market.

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This week's show is a wild ride. Sorta like a winding small intestine, it was all over the place and ended explosively. We go from European startups HeyJobs and Omnipresent kicking ass and taking names to a ruckus game of buy-or-sell featuring Rolebot, Bambee (our favorite stripper name, by the way), Learn In, and Workramp. Turns out, Portugal is making Chad a big softie when it comes to "selling" startups. Then there's lots of Great Resignation talk and we end the show by poking Mother Nature right where it hurts. Not just the tip and no pulling out on this show. Enjoy.

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Powering through a man-cold, Serge brings his A game on today’s episode and Shelley is ready to go to war with her condo board!  

The difference between good and great Recruiters. There are some essential ingredients, see if you agree.

Remote, hybrid, WFH or full time back to the office; those with the most property, like major retailers are starting to look beyond the traditional way of selling their goods.

The employees have voted with their feet at Goldman Sachs in New York. Given 2 weeks notice to get back to the office only 50% made it.

Asking for demographics information before candidates apply is built in bias in the name of compliance

Indeed Labour Market report for March 2022 - American data gives us in Canada a heads up on what may be coming. Check it out!

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The world of work has changed in many ways, and one fascinating area is the adoption of a more agile approach to talent. Project-based contracting is on the rise employers work to ensure they have the right skills at the right time in rapidly changing business environments.

So what mindset do employers need to adopt to be successful in the project economy, and what are the implications on the career paths of knowledge workers.

My guest this week is Kate Duchene, CEO at RGP, a human capital company redefining how professionals work in more flexible and collaborative ways. Kate is at the cutting edge of the project economy and has some very valuable insights and experiences to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

What is the Project Economy?

The drive towards agility and mobility

Renting or borrowing talent

Run this place vs change this place

Thinking differently about careers

The importance of choice

Skills development in portfolio careers

From command and control to learning, listening and empathy

Culture, productivity and performance

The role of technology

A future of increased flexibility

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We discuss the dynamics of their market, the competitive landscape and their vision of the future,

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Acquisition, investment, and head-scratching aren't stopping when it comes to workforce news and commentary in Europe. That's what Lieven and Chad & Cheese bring Kelly's Tim Pröhm, VP, KellyX Digital Innovation Lab, to the podcast for insight into 1) Cornerstone OnDemand's latest deal, 2) Stepstone pulling out of France and 3) Circular's latest investment round (buy-or-sell alert!). Oh yeah, Elon might even make a cameo this week too.

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This week in HR technology: Microsoft enhances Teams for hybrid use, Talent.com raises $120 million and more.

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We're finally recording a show on St. Patrick's Day, which means Cheese is still in bed while you listen to this the day after. Anyway, the boys discuss Talent.com's recent funding round (and whether or not they're a unicorn), CareerBuilder's latest attempt at innovation, going back-to-work gone wrong at a major bank, the latest creative work platform that's caught the attention of NBA superstar Kevin Durant and former Disney CEO Michael Eisner ... and, of course, robots invading your favorite restaurants. It’s the podcast at the end of the rainbow, and yes, we are magically delicious. Enjoy.

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Reducing "mobility friction" at a time went simplifying internal movement is a key to retention.

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Europe’s favorite, or at least the Netherlands favorite TA leader graces us with his royal presence. Bas is heading to the land down under for 3 TA events as a guest speaker and travel buddy with the Hung Lee of Recruiting Brainfood! Jealous much?  More about the Metaverse and a virtual career fairs, its everything we dreaded about going to these pointless events only now we can do it with creepy avatars. The saving grace is for early talent and cheers to not having to travel there and find parking!

Bas is convinced people will forget the ongoing blunders and missteps with Better.com goofing up their latest round of terminations. 

What’s up with Register before you apply? HR is stuck in a rut from 10 years ago when someone thought it would save them a few minutes in sending out the offer. 

All 3 of us take shots at poorly written job ads. Europe and Canadian companies continue to pour money into their career pages only to have long dry boring job descriptions. 

Extra tips on some great tech coming to the rescue to write better job ads, check out Dover.com and Jarvis.ai

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We talk with Dan Bartfield about about early-stage recruiting, DEI and technology’s role in it all, What's Covid done, and how are recruiters lining up for the future?

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Pulling out is a common theme this week, so let's keep the ball rolling. Businesses in our space - notably Indeed, Upwork and Fiverr - keep abandoning Mother Russia in favor of standing up for Ukraine. Invasion aside, money keeps flowing into startups. This week, we cover new funding for Torc, Donde, Findem, Reejig and Instant Teams. No unicorns, and maybe that's a good thing. The show ends with talk about the future of recruiting conferences, featuring opinion on Jobg8, TAtech, ERE, Unleash, Recfest and HR Tech.

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We talk about consolidating three businesses into one, the impact on product development and customers, and what it all means.

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This week on The Recruitment Flex Shelley buys a gold plated furnace. Sometimes marketing think they're clever but end up missing the mark. This happened recently in Toronto with a commercial leasing company welcoming back tenants into the office with signs asking if people were missing their dogs yet with a picture of sad dog.

Women are valuing flexibility more than stability hence why they're opting for the Gig Economy.

Measuring retention might be dumb, depends on how you measure it!

Is the era of dying, some clueless guy seems to think so.

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Episode is missing the fearless leader - wishing Julie safe travels. The King discusses news of the week, other news of the week and a riveting conversation between John Graham, author of Plantation Theory and Dr. Joy Degruy, author of Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome (revised in 2017). The big question within — are you gouging or shaping internal culture? Have a listen.

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Improving diversity seems like a very human exercise. But our guest today brings data and technology to the task.

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We cover a lot of countries in Europe on this episode, which is why we brought Oana Iordachescu, a talent acquisition specialist at Wayfair - who's worked in just about every country while at places like Facebook, Booking.com, and Criteo - on the show. Where to begin our journey? Of course, there's Ukraine and Russia, where a wide variety of corporations are pulling out of Russia in light of the invasion. Then there's France, where Macron has started his reelection campaign, and to Germany where Zenjob has nabbed significant funding; then we head to the UK where they're humanizing the prison system and to Spain, where it's a tale of two cities, where the educated are happily employed, while the uneducated young are in dire straits. Want more? One of the cohosts has been banned on Reddit! And of course, there's more love for Elon Musk.

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This week: Jobvite launches a new recruiting suite, while UKG acquires a mobile communications platform, and more.

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Software promising to screen and test the world's best tech talent tend to fall into two camps: Those who can actually do it and those who are totally full of shit. Enter Intervue.io a startup that provides live tech testing to go with its video interviewing solution. Cofounder Rahul Arora enters the Firing Squad firmly convinced that his company falls in the category of vendors who can actually do the job and aren't full of doo-doo. Does he come out smelling like a rose or not? Gotta listen.

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We talk about data and talent acquisition with Crosschq CEO Michael Fitzsimmons,

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The Russian invasion of Ukraine is prompting strong reaction from the business community, including TA programmatic provider Adzuna. Tesla and Elon Musk do something very right and we give them some props. Finally, a new study shows the power of language and women who transform organizations, transform cultures and shatter gender stereotypes.

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vArmour CEO Tim Eades looks at the 2021 ransomware attack on Kronos, and the lessons we can draw from it.

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Maybe you've heard, Europe has some stuff it's dealing with at the moment. But the show must go on! This week, the boys are joined by head of talent and author Jan Tegze to tackle a slew of acquisitions by House of HR, a perspective IPO from Jobandtalent and - someone alert HR! - groping in the metaverse. We also highlight some recent startups that enjoyed an influx of cash recently, as well as give our 2 cents on the state of war in Ukraine.

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Employer: See Me, Protect Me, Respect Me! Reading Jess Von Bank's post, “Stop filling reqs and start providing safety. Address the toll of fear and create a culture of hope and health. Do nothing but obsess over the care and nurturing of your own people, and you will stop the bleeding. Just a bet.”, left me wanting to know more! Jess is Lepagen's storyteller and Community Leader for the Now Of Work, and all around awesome human. In our conversation we covered plenty, including:

employees wanting, 'see me, protect me, respect me, keep me safe'

why your business will thrive if you help people thrive

why we shouldn't be going externally to 'acquire' talent before we have looked internally

Jess's love of WORQDRIVE and internal mobility

how recruiters are ready to cherry-pick employees from the companies who will set mandatory returns to the office! :o

trusting people to work like adults

stopping being slaves to the screen and slaves to work with solid boundaries

and the Now Of Work community.

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Destigmatizing career breaks is something that I feel very strongly about and something that talent acquisition needs to take very seriously. With so much lip service paid to diversity and inclusion and the current difficulties of finding talent, it makes zero sense to still view career breaks negatively.

This week LinkedIn have announced Career Breaks on the LinkedIn Profile to better reflect the realities of career journeys and, in turn, begin to normalize career breaks in the recruiting process. 

My guest this week is Jennifer Shappley, Global Head of Talent Acquisition at Linkedin. As well as talking us through the new career breaks feature, Jennifer discusses the key findings on LinkedIn's latest Global Talent Trends report and shares her thoughts on the future of talent acquisition.

In the interview, we discuss:

Global Talent Trends

Wellbeing and flexibility

Trust

LinkedIn's new Career Break profile section

How can talent acquisition support people who have taken a career break

How is talent acquisition changing, and where is it going?

Making interviews equitable in a hybrid world

What are the biggest challenges talent acquisition teams are facing

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This week in HR tech: Ceridian, Payactiv launch new earned-wage features, salaries make 'staggering' rise and more in this week's roundup.

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Inflation is on everyone's mind right now. How will it impact wages? Are bloated margins to blame? How about immigration? How will it impact the cost of doing business? What's going to happen with energy prices? Interestingly, history can tell us a lot about what the future holds. That's why the boys have brought back Columbia professor Suresh Naidu to make sense of the current state of inflation.

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On this edition we talk with Cadient CEO Jim Buchanan about how high-volume hiring has changed over the last two years, and the challenges employers face now,

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Kim Wilkinson joins as co-host, and as Serge’s attempt at revenge for Shelley’s poor choice of complimenting last week’s guest Chad Sowash. Some parenting advice for Serge, Rupaul’s Drag Race is not appropriate for 7 year olds girls who like to play dress up. 

The photoshop palm tree as inspiration, the laundry list of made up job titles and other cringe worthy posts on LinkedIn, we share the horrors of those who violate the community guidelines.

With all the new baby recruiters hitting LinkedIn, let’s put some effort into those inmail messages. Back to basics for seasoned pros and great teaching moments for the newbies.

We have a receipt! 92% of applicants will bale out on your application if you force them to create a profile before they apply. 51 clicks to apply is so 2014.

Help is on the way! Express work permits are back. Let's swing open the gates, only this time, let's make sure they have a job when they land. Government and industry pulling in the same direction.

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In this episode, we talk to a friend of the podcast, George LaRocque about all things technology. George is the Founder of WorkTech. The source of truth for industry data on emerging HR tech innovation. He is also a Founding Partner Impact WorkTech Accelerator - Market Analyst, HR & Tech Advisor, HR leader, and HR tech industry executive. And wow- he comes with some great knowledge!

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Julie and Torin note the potentially historical Russian invasion of Ukraine beginning this week and implore listeners to think about the impact of underrepresented and historically targeted communities who have been safe in Ukraine and very NOT safe in Russia. Then the New York Times helps us understand the importance of alt text in images online - Julie takes it a step farther - when we use alt text we all win. Finally, in our main story, the Baltimore Sun publishes what Julie and Torin feel is a sincere apology and acknowledgement of racist acts in its history. How does it compare to other major pubs like the LA Times and others? How does it make you feel?

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For over a decade now, I've been flagging up the development of virtual reality as something talent acquisition should have on their radar. It's taken a while, but with tech giants like Meta and Apple making multi-billion dollar investments in technology and infrastructure is now finally the time for our industry to fully embrace the Metaverse.

So how does would this work, and what talent acquisition and HR activities are already in play in virtual reality. My guests this week are Misha Krymov and Jennifer Regan, the CEO and Head of Experiences at Morpheus XR. Morpheus XR is already designing recruiting, onboarding and leadership development experiences in the Metaverse and have a massive amount of knowledge to share with us.

In the interview, we discuss:

What is the Metaverse, and who is building it?

Creating space for meaning and meaningful moments

How environment shapes human behaviour

How VR gives agency to users that Zoom / Teams calls don't

Unbiased recruitment using VR

Onboarding

What should talent acquisition teams be doing to learn about the Metaverse

Inclusion and alternatives to headsets

Untangling science fiction from science fact

Extending reality

What's the potential for VR, and how will it be used in the future

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Today, we talk with Sherrie Fernandes, vIce president of product management and user experience at Globalization Partners. Their platform makes it easier for businesses to hire and manage international talent.

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Strike while the iron is hot!  Lisa Zone, managing director at Dix & Eaton joins us to talk about how recruiting, hiring, engagement, and talent management is at the center of every board room conversation. But who is equipped and positioned to formulate the story and business case in building a strong employer brand?  Another great show complete with Cult Employer Brand master Julie Calli.  Seriously, you wanted the ear of your CEO and board. Now what are you going to do with the opportunity?

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Paycor's new developer portal speeds data transfer, Lever deploys winter release. And more.

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There seems to be a new $1B unicorn born every day in the employment industry, but only one has the distinction of being a Chad & Cheese 'Death Match' winner. Enter SeekOut and its CEO and cofounder Anoop Gupta, who recently closed a Series C to the tune of $115M and a $1.2B valuation, who joins the boys for a friendly chat. About what? How about international growth plans, diversity offerings, competing with Eightfold and Phenom (and just about everyone else), and much, much more.

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If you love financial news, Buy-or-Sell and snarky commentary around those two things, then this episode if your wet dream. The boys are talkin' earnings and Wall Street news from Seek, Recruit Holdings (Indeed.com, Glassdoor), Randstad, Upwork and Dice this week, as well as playing buy-or-sell with Haul, Kevala, JobPixel, Alongside and Mystery. But it's no mystery that this episode rocks, ending with a reality check around pay transparency.

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Our podcast hero, Chad Sowash from Chad and Cheese joins us for the US take on the trucker convoy blocking trade routes. Serge is upset because she thinks Chad is more handsome.

Recruitment Insights for the week,

The cost of hiring continues to rise and for employers who weren't paying attention, getting candidates to notice you will be expensive.

Just asking questions here; what would happen if we pay applicants to attend an interview. Would anything even change?

DEI smoke screen; after 18 months, nothing's really changed and no one is talking about why.

Aussie firm Enboarder needs to find a new ad agency, despite landing $32MM USD we still don't know what a people activation platform is?

Alongside owner of CareerBeacon.com receives $8 million in funding.

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This year, scale and speed are an essential focus for many talent acquisition teams. But how do you scale recruiting and speed up hiring in an environment where recruiting recruiters is as tough as it is right now?

My guest this week is David Spencer-Percival, CEO of Life Science People and formerly the founder of high growth recruitment businesses Huntress and Spencer Ogden. David has decades of experience scaling up and recruiting recruiters in various markets. He has developed a tried and tested methodology that many talent acquisition teams can learn from

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting, training and nurturing fantastic recruiters

The academy model

Selection

Building the right culture of success and incentive

The relentless pace of change

Recruiting processes for a candidate driven market

What are the most successful employers getting right?

The role of technology

Advice to TA leaders on building effective working partnerships with agencies

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André is the Founder and CEO of Onboard Health, a specialized executive search and advisory firm focused on creating a more inclusive future of health. A pioneering strategist with deep ties across the healthcare innovation, startup and digital strategy landscapes — André is dedicated to building the future of health through an equity lens. His work and insights have been featured in outlets such as Business Insider, Fortune, Forbes, NPR, CIO, Newsweek, U.S. News and World Report. He was recently named a Fortune Magazine 2020 40 Under 40 in Healthcare. Learn more: Onboard Health Follow André and Onboard Health: LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

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We explore the importance of connection, communication and how businesses succeed in the age of Covid, with Laura Lee Gentry, Enboarder's chief people officer.

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Laura Close. And she brought the heat! As a twenty-year veteran of the DEI space, Laura Close started at a time before the term DEI was coined and has spent a career both locking in new structural opportunities and access for historically excluded communities as well as coaching executive leaders within the enterprise on designing and deploying KPIs for DEI at scale. Now, as co-founder of Included.AI Laura and her team have created the first technology of its kind to use AI to identify specific areas where businesses can take further action to remove any potential roadblock from accomplishing the goal of becoming as people-first as possible. She is on a mission to prove that DEI isn’t a tax, PR issue, or feel-good checkbox, but an opportunity to build more competitive businesses.

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You have questions.... What is RM automation? What does candidate nurture really mean? What is a true talent pipeline? Are you and your company committing crimes against talent pipelines? All great questions for any organization, and the boys, partnered with RecruitmentMarketing.com's Julie Calli, bring on CandidateID's Adam Gordon to the podcast to cover a broad range of recruitment marketing questions and challenges. It's a must-listen for any employer looking to take their game to the next level.

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Molly Johnson-Jones shared a post on LinkedIn that stated '“By removing the need to have a ‘reason’ to request flexibility and giving everyone the freedom to choose how to work, we can make true progress on gender equality.” but how do we get that out of our hiring leaders? While Molly, CEO & Co-founder of Flexa, enjoyed London's winter sun, and I only had the heat of the topic to keep me warm, we covered loads including:

the motivation behind creating Flexa, a platform where employers can be verified as offering true flexibility to their people

surprising survey results that show both men and women want flexibility

the two paths to getting your leaders to see that offering flexible & hybrid working is inevitable

the challenges that some leaders face when trusting employees and measuring output instead of presenteeism

Molly's own lessons-learned running a truly flexible business

What is and most definitely isn't a 4 day week!

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This week: Talroo launches new jobs ads, Checkr acquires ModoHR, SkillPoints's career-matching solution. And more.

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Screening tech talent is smokin' hot right now. You know the names: HackerRank, Byteboard, Woven, Triplebyte and others. But do you know Tech Screen? If the answer is NO, then you owe it to yourself to checkout this episode of Firing Squad. Chad & Cheese put CEO and founder Mark Knowlton on the hot seat to answer some tough questions. Does he make it out alive? Gotta listen.

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Serge is pretty much convinced he's going to Recfect. Shelley's peer pressure might be working?

What happens if we run out of people to recruit. We deep dive into this article

Appcast comes out with their recruitment benchmark report and it's just chocolate for Shelley. Download it here

Why is your online advertising cost going up?

Top benefit companies should offer to increase your application rates....Pet Insurance!

Amazon increases maximum base cap for salaries

How close are we to a 4 day workweek?

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mpathic AI's technology analyzes text and voice communication to strengthen a company’s culture and improve performance.

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Over the last few months, as I've been researching the practical effects of the Great Resignation, we've heard the stories of talent acquisition professionals from the US, Europe and Australia on what is truly a global issue. One country I really want to know more about though, is India, one of the biggest global markets for tech talent.

My guest this week is Aditya Singh, Director Head of Talent Acquisition at Informatica. Aditya has overall responsibility for designing and deploying Informatica's Talent Acquisition Strategy across India and gives us a great insight into what Informatica is doing to stand out in one of the most competitive talent markets on the planet.

In the interview, we discuss:

The Indian tech talent market

Why EVP is critical for differentiation

Gen Z's expectations from work

Constant engagement throughout the client lifecycle

The importance of campus recruiting

The rapidly changing landscape of skills and why this makes internal mobility critical

The impact of remote

The role of technology

Data and analytics

What TA innovations can we expect to see in the future

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Maybe it's the fact the boys are recording from the Arizona desert this week, but this show is hot, hot hot! SmartRecruiters and Checkr go shopping, Enboarder gets paid, the Valley is bummed about losing workers to Web3 and we finally get some numbers around the metaverse ... including a definition. Pass the sunscreen and turn it up. This one gets toasty.

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Julie and Torin dive right into the news of the day. Will the Senate act on creating pregnancy protections for expectant employees? Nancy Pelosi dodges reporters questions on Dear White Staffers Instagram tea and Tesla is back in court for firing and then REHIRING a worker who assaulted and spewed racial slurs at a Black supervisor. In our in depth story, we jump in to the death of Amir Locke at the hands of Minneapolis PD on yet another unnecessary no knock warrant. Brian Flores makes it known the Rooney Rule doesn't work and the NFL is again trying to wiggle out of responsibility for the cultures it creates. In mining news, Rio Tinto releases (on purpose) a transparency report of rampant sexual abuse, assault and rape of women and men in their employment. So much on this week's episode of CATK!

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While the world teeters on geopolitical confrontation, Chad & Cheese continue to keep the peace with Belgian brother from another mother, Lieven Van Nieuwenhuyze, and special guest Geert-Jan Waasdorp founder at Intelligence Group in The Netherlands. This episode, the boys cover Otta from the Europeans perspective, while tackling new topics like Radancy's acquisition of Firstbird and Phenom's purchase of Tendemploy. Additionally, a little buy-or-sell commences with Alva Labs, Jobilla, and Kleoverse. Spoiler alert: There's a lot of sell, sell, sell!

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Happy Friday Everyone, In this episode shares information about transformation. A short recap about the holiday celebrations and a candle with good advice. Let's chit chat about change. You have a change that needs desperate attention because it isn’t balancing your business or perhaps your lifestyle. You decide what that change you are planning to address to your stakeholders. You type it up in an email and click send. Off into the universe it goes. Then you being to think was that a good idea, oh shit! I need to go and delete it. You over think didn’t you. Why are you giving away your own power? Why are you telling the whole world about the changes that you are making, stop asking for permission for approval? Why are you invested in their thoughts and feelings of what you are doing to make something spectacular? I get it is exciting news, but it can wait until you have transformed. “Don’t let people talk you into what they think of you.” Oprah Winfrey Why aren’t people doing what you want them to do? Honestly, people hate change, when they don’t like something their behavior changes, and they don’t want to do it. Change needs to happen we NEED TO MOVE FORWARD! It's hard and scary but it’s exciting also. You need to remove the old to make way for new ideas and growth. The world will move past you if you stay in your comfort zone. Here’s a Tip. Get out your Crayola markers, pens, and crayons, paper large enough for your amazing ideas, and brainstorm the shit out of that plan of yours. Or if you prefer a vision board, find pictures that you love, words, quotes things inspire, motivate you and paste, glue, and tape these on a bulletin board or put them in your journey book. Maybe you’re not the creative type and you prefer to use word or other writing format. Go find something that will work for you to execute that change! Or “Fuck it” it’s up to you to decide. I leave you with this,  “Never water yourself down, just because someone can’t handle you at 100 proof.” (can’t seem to find who wrote this? It is Badass!) P.S. Go buy that candle,

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Remember seeing and hearing your first Deep Fake? Synthesized voices that sound like your favorite movie star. Not a great impressionist, on the contrary, algorithmically cloned voices where even the subtlest of nuances of a voice can be captured and recreated. Cringy, yet incredibly cool that tech could accomplish such a feat. Yes, technology is advancing quickly and unfortunately many of the advances are seen as negative. Luckily, Ryan Steelberg, president, and founder of Veritone guides us through a more advanced cloned voice discussion. On this episode we cover:

The difference between a deep fake and a "cloned" voices

Practical applications for using cloned voices

Where are chatbots headed?

Will this tech help candidate and employee engagement?

How do Pandologic and Wade and Wendy fit into the ecosystem?

Well kids, welcome to the Matrix.

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We talk about how recruiters can operate successfully in today’s market, the impact technology’s had on recruiting’s evolution and movement toward DEIB.

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The world of employment took a break from crowning unicorns this week, and that's just fine with Chad & Cheese, who have gotten a little tired of taking the crazy pills on such a regular basis.

In its place, Hiretual has a new brand and new money in the bank,

Woven took a Series A,

Bullhorn created an investment arm,

the NFL has a race problem (still), Home Depot is hiring too fast or not fast enough? ...and finally.

OnlyFans has another termination (allegedly) to add to its portfolio. This time, a cop. You have the right to remain sexy unless it steps on our Puritan sensibilities. 

Take some crazy pills and enjoy!

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This week we welcome to one and only Will Van Middendorp as a guest co-host. Shelley tries to peer pressure Serge to join her at RecFest in England in July but will HE succumb to FOMO. We also tackle some of the biggest topics in recruitment right now.

We talk about how you can turnaround the feedback why candidates leave their old jobs and make it a positive in your job ads.

A recruiter went viral this week for all the wrong reasons! Find out why

Recruiting Brainfood recruiter survey reveals what ATS recruiters love and they hate.

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Anti-Semitism is on the rise in the Western World, Mercedes Johnson gets DRAGGED and White Men want to continue to receive their historical affirmative action when it comes to SCOTUS seats. An Atlanta family opens the first fully autonomous Black owned grocery store in the world. We welcome a new sponsor this week....and check out that new logo!

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Hybrid work and its impact on how work gets done, on people and on managing a workforce under strange circumstances.

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After seeing Mark Gilroy’s fabulous YouTube video about change, (not the one where he’s singing that song ;) ), I wanted to know more and how recruiters can influence change.  A self-confessed professional psychology geek, Mark & I had a fascinating conversation that will help recruiters & hiring leaders partner better! We talked about:

let’s stop pathologising change and reframe change in the right language

the pandemic showing us that change isn’t hard! 

change accompanies by loss is the real issue

rational thinking vs. primal more emotional responses

winning hiring manager conversations by talking about loss aversion

sunk cost fallacy and the Ikea effect, and how this impact recruitment remorse

choosing your language around change with care

measuring optimism, energy, and level of fault-finding at the start

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The world has changed and so has the employment branding game. That's why Chad & Cheese have relaunched the Cult Brand series with the help of RecruitmentMarketing.com's Julie Calli. And what better guest to bring on the show than marketing magic man Chris Kneeland of Cult Collective? The group discusses issues around holistic brand, HR's newly minted seat at the table, branding in a post-pandemic and WFH world, and much, much more.

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In this week's HR Technology Roundup: Career development programs boost retention, Randstad USA partners on earned wage access, and more.

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To say we were giddy about interviewing someone connected to the movie "Wolf of Wall Street" would be the understatement of the year. Yet, here we are. And why is Richard Bronson, a former partner at the "Wolf of Wall Street" firm talking to Chad & Cheese? Turns out he runs a site dedicated to finding employment for former felons called 70MillionJobs.com. It's important work that turns out to be one helluva podcast. Most interestingly, the impact on The Great Resignation as it pertains to job seekers with a criminal record isn't going as anyone expected. This one's a must-listen. Enjoy!

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DE&I continues, thankfully, to be an extremely high profile issue for employers. However, the needle is still not moving quickly enough, and some of the data is shocking. For example, it would still take 200 hundred years to close the race and gender pay gaps at the current rate of progress.

So what can employers do to accelerate the pace of change, and how much can individual recruiters influence diversity in hiring. This week, my guests are Trina Olson and Alfonso Wenker, co-founders of Team Dynamics. Trina and Alfonso work with some well-known organisations to improve their diversity and hiring practices. They have recently authored a book called Hiring Revolution that offers some extremely practical advice on how recruiters can inject DE&I into their organisation's hiring.

In the interview, we discuss:

Aligning cultural behaviour to values

Why inequities in hiring and promotion are not a foregone conclusion

Resume racism 

Recruiters taking individual responsibility to make change

Notice, Name and Navigate

RPDR

What to do more of, what to do less of and what to stop.

Onboarding

How will things develop over the next two years?

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We discuss about PayActiv’s products, how it sees the market and where it hopes to go.

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What has been happening? Worqdrive pitch fest at HR Tech in Vegas! SUCCESSFUL!!! User logging in every 9 days! *Q3 Voice of the Candidate Study in June: What is job seeks chatting about on SM? What’s the word of mouth on applications, job hunt, and quitting? Starting a new path. Building modules, talking to people and consulting. Job seekers, online public conversation. Pandologic- HR Tech company that does job assessments, they help with every stage of the recruitment process. Breakdown: They find the right fit for job seekers. You Know Your Worth Ladies! Word on the net driven by men is that hearing about that job offer is a dud. This is surprising since women are more engaged on social media and there’s no conversations happening. Ladies, we need to chat I know you’re angry about the workforce, but I can’t hear you. The study found that in the past job seekers complained about the job process but when they finally got to the job offer, they were super excited. The word on social media sites is that job offers is at a low were talking about a disappointment. Data doesn’t lie. Here is an example: Ava applied for a director in marking position for a company. She was super excited when HR called her. While the HR manager spoke about the salary, benefits, travel, vacation. Ava, we need you to start Monday, and oh here is a pen, welcome to our company glad you’re here. Wait, what? Where’s the welcome package that the company heavily advertises? Let’s be honest here we get you Ava, oh we get it because we have been there. So, what happened? Why aren’t job seekers excited about the finish line? The 3 main issues why? 1.      PAY- women are paid less in the same position a man has 2.      $$$- childcare, bills, etc. 3.      Quitting – Not feeling your valued or worth Did you know? The pandemic has set women’s labor force participation back more than 30 years. Many women were laid off and the strain of the lack of childcare forced women out of the workforce. Start conversations about actions to drive women back into the workforce and stop living in the past, continue to move forward.

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Yeah, yeah, there's a unicorn on this episode that'll make you think of SNL's "Dick in a Box" skit, but there's so much more. Like, how about startup Otta receiving investment from an Indeed cofounder, or ZipRecruiter unleashing some cyber dude named Phil on job seekers or LinkedIn's fake profile problem. No? Well how about a psychedelic frog? Oh, and Craigslist is still significant. Gotta listen or you lose out.

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Kim Wilkinson CEO of Verve Recruiting joins again as co-host - give her a big round of applause as her Linked In post hits 1.3 million views! Guess she hit a nerve.

Annoying candidate behaviour, are we getting crusty or do candidates feel entitled? If your email is juicybottom69@hotmail.com time to change.

Do you need to pay top dollars for top talent?

Can a judge stop you from changing employers? How about we just quit then?

Someone stole Serge’s picture and is using it on fake LinkedIn profiles. The lengths that people will go to - just to be him.

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Torin and Julie jump into the Edelman Trust Barometer 2022, Nike's Larry Fink comes clean and Disingenuous legislators do more damage than they are likely to be able to control.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak to Nancy Murphy. Nancy’s spent her career saying what others are afraid to – and learning to say it in ways that others will listen. She’s the founder and president of CSR Communications and creator of Intrapreneurs Influence Lab. Her passion is teaching leaders how to make organizational change stick. From challenging stereotypes of girls in her Catholic school more than 40 years ago, to her first job after college convincing nonprofits to engage youth volunteers or her role as board chair of a global nonprofit transforming the way we do international development...And she’s willing to share all the mistakes she made – and all the solutions she discovered – so that you don’t have to learn them the hard way. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

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We talk with Eric Sydell, EVP of innovation at Modern Hire, a science-based platform with tools that touch multiple steps in the hiring process.

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Europe is a hot mess right now. Boris is apologizing. Putin is (probably) invading. Belgium is rioting. Fortunately, you have Lieven and the boys, welcoming special guest Calin Stefanescu, CEO & Co-Founder at Dora (Happy Recruiter) to help sort out all the employment news, while you worry about geopolitics. In this episode: TotalJobs is sticking it to staffing agencies, the 4-day workweek is gaining popularity in Europe - although it's not popular with everyone on the podcast - and IKEA flexes it's corporate muscle with employees who fail to get on the vaccine train. What's choo-choo in Swedish?

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In this week's roundup: Globalization Partners receives $200 million investment, Sequoia launches a benchmarking tool, and more.

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Whatever form it eventually takes, remote working is here to stay. In the previous episode of the show, we explored the challenges and opportunities of building a global remote team; in this episode, I wanted to get the hands-on perspective of someone who has built a highly successful remote-first company.

Everett Harper is the CEO of Truss, a software engineering business that has been fully remote for ten years. In our conversation, Everett shares myriad insights on hiring, communication, retention, culture and diversity, which will be of enormous value to everyone who's listening.

In the interview, we discuss:

Building a 100% remote company

Culture

Maintaining and measuring productivity.

Focusing on human connection and building systems to support that

The danger of expanding work hours

Exposing the fallacy of presenteeism

Putting diversity at the heart of the workforce

How to ensure you have the skills and talent you need

Salary transparency and consistency

Thinking differently about the things we are seeing

Do we understand the real implications of global mobility?

What does the future look like?

Everett's book - "Move to the Edge, Declare it Center."

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We talk about the pymetrics platform and the science behind it with founder and CEO Frida Polli.

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Love unicorns? How about triple unicorns? Well, we have two of those - Lattice and Handshake - to talk about this week. Yes, you're taking crazy pills, but the boys might have the remedy. Want more bangin' content? WorkStep, Deel, Bolster, DriverReach, Jobfindah, Vangst and Circa are in the news. Fairygodboss shows everyone how layoffs are done, Microsoft bets big on the metaverse and, of course, OnlyFans is continuing to help fuel The Great Resignation. You're welcome.

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Is stakeholder capitalism the same as capitalism? Larry Fink, CEO of Black Rock, says YES in this year's letter to CEOs. The CDC rallies, admits the mistake and vows to be more inclusive - Isn't this the way it should always work? And a homecoming send off to the last Tuskegee Airmen, Charles McGhee. Rest in Power, sir.

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One of the early discussion points in the pandemic was the access to global talent pools that the move to remote working could open up. Two years on, it is pretty clear that remote working is now a permanent fixture in the working life of many people. So how far are employers tapping into global talent pools, and what are the challenges and opportunities.

My guest this week is Nicole Sahin, CEO and Founder of Globalization Partners. Nicole and her company work with many employers who are building global remote teams, and she has some valuable insights and experiences to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

The long term trends that are coming out of the pandemic

Everyone everywhere

The benefits of building global remote teams

Diversity of ideas

Engagement & productivity

Building community

Common challenges

What mindset shifts are employers making

Understanding cultural norms

Building a global employer brand

Nicole's book " Global Talent Unleashed." 

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Vivian Acquah, an inclusive Workplace Wellness Advocate. Vivian advises managers on how to keep their team members engaged, energized, and safe in a sustainable manner. Vivian Acquah is making topics related to workplace wellness & DEI accessible to everyone. She provides people with the right tools, at the right time, to embrace inclusive changes. Vivian motivates people to think consciously and inspires them to take action. As a multicultural and multi-passionate human being, Vivian inspires and empowers people to be their best selves. Becoming a mother inspired her to shift from being a Finance/ IT consultant to becoming a workplace wellness & Amplify DEI advocate. Vivian made a promise to her son Orlando (2013) to help make the world a better place by creating thriving workplaces for EVERYONE. This is a promise not only to him and his generation but also for future generations. www.vivalavive.com + www.amplifydei.com If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

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The Cult Brand series of podcasts have been some of the most popular episodes in the portfolio. Yeti, Chili's, Airbnb, and others have joined Chad & Cheese on the mic to discuss the importance of the brand. Post-pandemic, we're back with a whole new attitude and outlook on the employment brand. Buckle-up, boys, and girls. We have a new partner, a new cohost, and a new focus that's going to take the employment brand to a whole new level. Want to know more? Gotta listen to this live-from-a-bar trailer.

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This week's HR tech roundup: SeekOut raise $115 million in Series C funding; meQuilibrium adds biometrics, and more.

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At first glance, I didn't think this report would be very eye-opening. I. WAS. WRONG. The report stirs discussion around hard questions many HR and TA leaders have been asking themselves like.

What happens when HR leaders are severely disconnected from front-line recruiters?

What happens when it's harder to find recruiters than developers?

What happens when recruiters turn down working for your company due to a shitty tech stack?

Well, that day has arrived, and Aptitude Research's new report entitled: Talent Acquisition Technology and the Modern Recruiter only starts the discussions necessary in fixing a broken TA team, company, and industry. Chad and Aptitude founder, Madeline Laurano cover three of the seven key findings in the report.

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The moment I saw Lee Andrese, write, "Dear Hiring Managers & Leaders - YOU are the candidates. Ghosting candidates after they've spent SIX HOURS with you? Shame on you." I knew I had to know more. Lee was sharing a job seeker's post and she was encouraging job seeker's to choose wisely! With years of experience in the recruiting profession, Lee is now a Learning & Development Leader, creating best in class recruiters at Onward Search. Tune into our fabulous conversation and you'll hear:

How rejected candidates hear ‘no’ matters! And it’s costing you. 

Why recruiters need to be selective over the brands they represent

Ensuring you work for a company that you can support wholeheartedly

How changing an outbound message, can change the entire experience.

What it costs you when you let your company or client ghost a C-suite candidate

Making feedback of benefit to the person delivering it! 

How to tackle those dreadful no feedback policies. 

Grab a cuppa, pen and paper and settle in! ✍🏻

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind.

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Recruiting veterans to adapt their skills and take on jobs across a variety of industries.

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It's only January, and it's already clear that the Great resignation will continue to be a huge talking point in 2022 as companies fight for the talent and skills they need. However, some employers are already reframing this challenge as a fantastic opportunity to attract talented people they might not have previously persuaded to move roles.

This isn't easy, and obviously, employer brand and employee experience are huge factors. However, there is a lot that talent acquisition teams can be doing to stand out from the crowd by focusing on the areas within their control that make a real difference.

My guest this week is Maggie Spong, VP of Talent Acquisition at Astra Zeneca. Astra Zeneca has certainly been thrust into the spotlight by the pandemic, but they have also spent the last few years developing several initiatives to differentiate themselves in their talent markets. In our conversation, Maggie shares a number of these, including their talent scout programme, building a personalised and inclusive candidate experience, and focusing on training and development for their talent acquisition team.

In the interview, we discuss:

How Talent Acquisition is evolving at Astra Zeneca

Using Talent Scouts to build external talent pipelines for hard to fill roles and where there are gaps in internal succession planning

Building a personalised and inclusive candidate experience.

Giving feedback to all interviewed candidates

The challenges of the pandemic

Encouraging candidate self-selection by showcasing the authentic employee experience

Turning The Great Resignation into The Great Opportunity

The role of technology

Employer brand advocacy

Investing in development and the Talent Acquisition Academy

Astra Zeneca's focus for 2022

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One of these topics is not like other podcast topics.

A new unicorn.

An acquisition.

A startup getting funded.

Google ticks off their workers.

Pay transparency.

Selling farts on TikTok for $1,000 a bottle.

If you guessed bottled farts, congrats. Now listen to this episode, covering all the above, and featuring Seekout, FactoryFix, ZipRecuiter, Bullhorn, and more.

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In true form, Serge has big news and you get to hear it before he even updates his LinkedIn profile!

Our Recruiting Insights this week:

Retention bonus as an afterthought may have the reverse effect. Keeping your employees happy is a less expensive way of keeping them. 

What’s a quitting bonus? Maybe we fell for some click bait here; the idea is nothing new but an Arizona CEO grabbed a few headlines by doubling his quit bonus to $5000 when no one took him up on the original $2500.

If 16,000 recruiters get hired by March 1 2022 - then we’ve only begun to see the great resignation.

Big shout out to James Ellis of the Talent Cast podcast, I’m signing up for his new book reading.

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This show has it all.

European predictions for 2022 (Oh boy, Monster's not going to like this).

LinkedIn news (Clubhouse isn't going to like this either).

A French unicorn named PayFit. (Cue the unicorn song)

Oh yeah, and Gerard Mulder, CEO of Dutch company Textkernel, and recent acquirers of US-based Sovren, joins the show to give his insights on all things world-of-work. The guys also dig into some recent startups - Hinterview and SonicJobs - that have garnered millions in funding.

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CDC Director says WHAT?!? This week Julie and Torin catch up on vaccine mandates, ADHD at the car the dealership, and why the CDC Director is under fire for her "encouraging words"" What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz Image by VisionPics

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Jackye and Katee are back in the mix and having some conversations on what we hope this new year brings for us and for you! Welcome to 2022!!

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We talk with CodeSignal CEO Tigran Sloyan about raising venture money, then putting it to work.

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In this week's news roundup: Canvas ordered to give up domain; LinkedIn launches an event platform and more.

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We discuss the challenges of serving deskless workers, as well as the impact of Covid on front-line technology solutions.

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It's that time of year again: Predictions! Where'd we get it right and (mostly) wrong in 2021? And what are the bold guesses we're making for 2022 for the world of work? Like always, Chad & Cheese have enlisted the help of a longtime vet and good friend Tim "Sackadomus" Sackett to give his two cents on what the crystal ball says for next year.

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The world seems a bit smaller when Shelley visits Europe for Christmas and sees first hand the staffing shortage exists there too. 

Recruitment Insights for our first episode of 2022

A great report from GlassDoor with a little bit of Fishbowl thrown in for good measure, some interesting insights on what we expect from employers in 2022. 

Is the focus DE&I fading away? Let's not let that happen!

Like looking at your own belly button, recruiting a recruiter is officially more difficult than full stack developer. Mind blowing numbers from around the world

Job hopping as a good thing, we agree on this. It is.

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2022 and Julie and Torin are back behind the mics. Ready to bring more realness, more truth and more humanity to every aspect of our lives and yours! This week - Theranos, a forgotten bet, the end of the Blackberry, and when the system turns a 10 year sentence into a life sentence. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz Image by VisionPics

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How software helps businesses reduce their risks, maximize opportunities and keep up with constantly changing regulatory requirements.

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You're probably texting right now, aren't you? And if you're not texting now, you will be soon. That's why text recruiting remains such a hot solution. And that's why industry veteran Ty Abernathy launched Grayscale. But there's a lot of competition out there - hello Canvas, TextRecruit, Emissary, Rectxt, and the rest - so escaping the Firing Squad with his pride intact is no guarantee. Did Ty survive, and what about that name, the one that sounds more like an investment firm or a bad '80s Tarzan movie? Gotta listen to find out.

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When Suzanne Lucas‘s post, If You Think The Great Resignation Is Bad, Just Wait Until January, popped up in my feed, I knew I had to invite her onto the podcast. You may know Suzanne as The Evil HR Lady but she’s not at all! And we had a fabulous conversation that included:

the myriad of things Suzanne does, thanks to remote working

how the world of work has changed from ‘being a work giver’ to being ‘be grateful you have employees’

persuading your hiring managers that closing the door on remote, flexible and hybrid work will be the company’s downfall

salary shopping and bonuses, and what you can do if you simply cannot pay your people more

boundaries, vulnerability and honesty!!

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Skillsoft picks up Codeacademy, HR technology spending increased during 2021, and more.

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What are the best companies to work for if you're a woman in 2021? Female-focused employee review site Fairygodboss is a good place to start. Co-founder and president Romy Newman join the boys and dives into the survey, which outlines companies from tech to finance to consulting and more. And if you didn't make it onto a Best of list this year, Romy tells you how you might get on the list in 2022.

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Turns out, recording this podcast was the only thing standing between Chad & Cheese and a bottomless bottle of Blanton's to ring in the New Year ... so hold the small talk and get to the point. This show is tight, discussing everything from Paradox' latest unicorn-birthing round of investment, fundraising by Monster - wait, who? - and, well, we had to end the year on some TikTok chatter, didn't we? Happy 2022, ya' filthy animals!

As always, a special "cheers" to sponsors Sovren, JobAdx and Jobvite.

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Join Torin and Julie in welcoming HBCU grad, author, and employer brand guru, John Graham to the show in part one of a two part interview you will not want to miss. John Graham’s professional passion is helping global companies uncover who they are at their core. Through award winning employer brand and employee value proposition development, Graham has discovered innovative ways to bring the humanity of employee stories to life. As a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) practitioner and culture transformation consultant, his work centers on improving the lived experiences of marginalized employee populations through bleeding-edge approaches that disrupt the status quo and create equitable and inclusive environments. Graham earned a bachelor’s degree in African Studies and a Master's degree in Education from Lincoln University. He also holds an executive certificate in Fostering Diversity and Inclusion from the Yale School of Management. Accolades include: - Double alumnus of Lincoln University - 1854 (Oldest degree-granting HBCU in the U.S.) - Fostering Diversity & Inclusion certification from Yale School of Management - Published author of Plantation Theory: The Black Professional’s Struggle Between Freedom & Security - Named to the 2020 Comparably List of Inspiring Employer Brand Leaders - Launched global employer brands for Fortune 50 Pharma & Biotech companies - Award-Winning culture marketing and talent attraction strategist

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Join Torin and Julie in welcoming HBCU grad, author, and employer brand guru, John Graham to the show in part one of a two part interview you will not want to miss. John Graham’s professional passion is helping global companies uncover who they are at their core. Through award winning employer brand and employee value proposition development, Graham has discovered innovative ways to bring the humanity of employee stories to life. As a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) practitioner and culture transformation consultant, his work centers on improving the lived experiences of marginalized employee populations through bleeding-edge approaches that disrupt the status quo and create equitable and inclusive environments. Graham earned a bachelor’s degree in African Studies and a Master's degree in Education from Lincoln University. He also holds an executive certificate in Fostering Diversity and Inclusion from the Yale School of Management. Accolades include: - Double alumnus of Lincoln University - 1854 (Oldest degree-granting HBCU in the U.S.) - Fostering Diversity & Inclusion certification from Yale School of Management - Published author of Plantation Theory: The Black Professional’s Struggle Between Freedom & Security - Named to the 2020 Comparably List of Inspiring Employer Brand Leaders - Launched global employer brands for Fortune 50 Pharma & Biotech companies - Award-Winning culture marketing and talent attraction strategist

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Join Torin and Julie in welcoming LGBTQ+ leaders, Joann and Jennings as our end of year interview series wraps us up with some of the brightest and most influential voices in our space.

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Joann S. Lublin was management news editor for The Wall Street Journal, working with reporters in the U.S. and abroad, until she retired in April 2018. She remains a regular Journal contributor. She speaks about issues such as leadership and executive women. She created the Journal’s career advice column in 1993 and kept writing its “Your Executive Career” column until May 2020. She shared its Pulitzer Prize in 2003 for stories about corporate scandals. She is the author of the popular 2016 book, Earning It: Hard-Won Lessons from Trailblazing Women at the Top of the Business World. She won the 2018 Lifetime Achievement from the Loeb Awards, the highest accolade in business journalism.  She joins us today to discuss her newest book, Power Moms: How Executie Mothers Navigate Work and Life

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This week: Zoom's Apps Fund invests in Clovers AI, Fountain launches new products, and more in this week's roundup.

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Allie Knull, Founder of ResumeFree joins as co-host with Serge and Shelley. Grinch for hire - the only time getting a 1 star rating is the point. When an actor hired as the Grinch trashes the house. What did you think would happen?

Top Recruiter award, with no audit or due diligence it feels like a popularity contest. 

Recruiters creating idiot polls on LinkedIn, the idea is a bit like catfishing to us

The tragedy left behind from the tornado in Kentucky, with only one side of the story being reported, we debated if the scented candle business will ever recover.

Lastly, our predictions for 2022.

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Chad is reenergized and back after another stint in Europe, Joel is drinking Corona's on a beach in Mexico, and Mr. ATS (Peter Gold) slides into the guest host seat to talk news, moves, and....

Will PageUp be a Path in Motion?

Is Stepstone's master AppCast plan working?

Does Textkernel now own the market?

and some Buy or Sell with:

1) AdeptID

2) VideoMyJob and

3) myGwork

Let's do this!

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When I launched this podcast almost six years ago, I had an expectation that I was in it for the long haul, but I couldn't have imagined that 400 episodes later, I would be publishing two episodes a week, and the audience would still be growing. Thank you for listening and for your support; it means so much to me.

In keeping with the show's theme for this 400th episode, I want to look forward and not backwards. 2021 has been a year for talent acquisition like no other, and I believe we are seeing trends emerge that will shape recruiting for the next decade or more.

I've had some fantastic guests on the show this year, and I wanted to showcase highlights from five interviews that shine a light on some of the innovations and trends that have made 2021 so important, and that will, in turn, have a significant impact in 2022.

Interviews featured in this episode:

Ep 333: Automation, Simplicity and Experience

Ep 331: Transforming Recruitment Marketing

Future Live: DE&I

Ep 395: The Challenges Of Recruiting Recruiters

Ep 375: The Magic Of Behavioural Science

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During this episode, Jackye and Katee talk to Joshua Gilbert. Joshua Gilbert, CEO, and Founder, Circle Search, LLC. He has championed over 19 years in the tech space, all within Talent Acquisition, and consulting. Joshua avails 14 years' experience in team building for national and international tech startups. Joshua is a father of three amazing children and a husband to one. An overall superhero and genius, ex-Elite Athlete, former Homeless snob, Life Coach, Head Varsity Boys High School Basketball Coach PODCast host of Circle Search, and one hell of a recruiter.

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The pandemic, labor shortages, and a supply chain debacle have opened our eyes to many subjects like immigration, wages, retirement, remote work, working conditions, and many other factors that impact our everyday lives. These major events have provided clarity around many of these issues and on this episode Andrew Flowers, Labor Economist with Appcast sits down with The Chad and Cheese to start digging into a wide variety of these issues.

Because at the center of all the economic banter is, TALENT!

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Cornerstone’s acquisition by Clearlake Capital, the pandemic’s impact on the company’s approach and its commitment to content.

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Smaller markets are so underserved yet such a delight to do business with. Serge and Shelley do a road trip to visit a great organization who are sincerely looking to up their game in TA. Such a breath of fresh air! What’s happening in the Talent Acquisition world this episode?

Better.com with their CEO blunder makes them a perfect target for TA professionals. Top talent never sticks around to see how this shit show turns out. Time to sign up to poaching.ai

Soooo tired of trying to make social media work; join the club. Yet we still find great tips and some back to basics on where it fits into our master plan in TA

Work samples. Don't be lame and let your Hiring Manager build some stupid work assignment that takes 8 hours to complete, get with the cool kids who keep the candidate experience in check.

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The year that was 2021 didn't turn out exactly as expected. Business travel didn't come back, the Delta variant threw a big monkey wrench in the party that should've been and we'll have to push pause on another Roaring '20s. The industry, however, kept us talking. We were busier than ever, and these are five episodes that really stood out in a year of standouts. This Best of has it all: Indeed, CareerBuilder, feisty recruiters, dumb employers and, of course, the ZipRecruiter IPO. Here's to a great year with an eye toward 2022. Enjoy!

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We're thinking that entire employee experience encompasses so much more, and the pressure is that much higher on all of us.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Dr. Olomara Uwedimo. Dr. Omolara Thomas Uwemedimo is an empowerment coach, business development & growth strategist and CEO of Melanin & Medicine. In less than 12 months, she built Melanin & Medicine into a successful, multi-six-figure company that provides support, strategy & skills to help Black women physicians pivot into purpose-led careers & businesses & live more fulfilled & integrated lives. As a career transition strategist, she provides women with culturally-informed strategies and systems to reduce burnout, achieve personal and professional fulfillment, rediscover their purpose and ultimately, achieve their vision for life, without struggle or sacrifice. Prior to founding Melanin, & Medicine, Dr. Uwemedimo worked as a board-certified pediatrician for over 15 years and professor for over a decade, mentoring women in medicine to live more fulfilled lives. Her career has been defined by a passion for social justice, an advocate and researcher committed to health equity for both patients and providers. She has worked as a global physician across sub-Saharan Africa, Asia, and the Caribbean. She also is CEO and founder of Strong Children Wellness, an innovative family practice that addresses both unmet health and social needs for families in New York City. Dr. Uwemedimo is an expert in purpose-led entrepreneurship, career transition, navigating workplace racism and health equity for Black women in healthcare,. Her work has been featured in several media outlets including People.com, NBC News, Medscape, Essence.com, Newsweek, Crain’s, Politico, Reuters, and NPR. Enjoy!

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Chad is too busy building his Portuguese real estate empire, we've brought on industry Brainfooder Hung Lee to the show to join Cheese and Lieven in tackling the continent's biggest stories. First, we're talking about the acquisition of Sovren by Dutch-based Textkernel. Then, we tackle the latest funding round by Jobandtalent, a company now valued at over $3 billion. Want some buy-or-sell, European-style? The boys cover Quinyx, Screenloop and Blink - no, not Blink182 - and whether or not they'd be buyers or sellers. Then a Dutch pizza company promised to send an employee to space. Is it just good PR or a sound strategy to recruit and retain the best and brightest? Gotta listen to find out.

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TaPod of Australian fame joins The Recruitment Flex for a world view on talent acquisition. With Harvey the office dog riding shotgun, we see the world is smaller than we thought. Craig and Lauren are a fun couple of Aussies who really know their stuff in TA; we take on the hot topics of today and find out the Recruiter shortage is global. 

Who knew candidate ghosting is a worldwide issue 

What are the top ATS technologies in Canada and Australia

Top job boards Down Under and in the Great White North

The Wish List for 2022 in TA

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This week: LinkedIn launches new ATS integrations, Dice introduces 'Unbiased Sourcing Mode' and more.

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Have you read SmartRecruiters' "Diversity Hiring Report"? aka The path to Hell is paved with good intentions... Ya' should, even if it is a little depressing. Chief Customer Officer Rachel Orston joins the podcast and discusses the results of surveying over 400 employers about diversity recruiting. Needless to say, we have a long way to go. Fifty percent of organizations have NO PLAN on diversity. Maybe we could start there. The good news: Lots of room for improvement.

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Managers often pursue ineffective lines of questioning that push a search off-track.

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We often talk about evolution in talent acquisition. That has always seemed appropriate in an area where the pace of change has been relatively slow compared to other areas of the corporation. However, what we are seeing now is much more like a revolution as talent shortages, changing business priorities, and rapid technological advancement send shock waves through the industry.

So what does talent acquisition transformation now look like, and how are employers moving at pace to keep up with the changing landscape.

My guest this week is Yasar Ahmad, Global VP of Talent at HelloFresh. Yasar is only six months into his role but has quickly embarked on an ambitious recruiting transformation strategy that is already showing tangible results.

In the interview, we discuss:

Talent acquisition challenges at Hello Fresh

Recruiting maturity

From 1.0 to 4.0 and beyond

Investment from senior leadership

Driving a vision based on candidate experience

Putting talent intelligence at the core

Hiring and retaining recruiters by communicating a long strategy and building a sense of purpose

The transformation roadmap

The role of technology

Automation

Turning candidates into customers

Hiring in 24 hours

Sustainability in recruiting

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The Chad and Cheese have been podcasting since March of 2017 and have published nearly 800 episodes! During that time they have never pulled together a "Best of The Chad and Cheese" compilation, which highlights conversations, topics, and their deeply sarcastic opinions. 

That's just absurd,  ... an oversight,  ... and something which needed to be rectified. 

(Drumroll please) 

Welcome to the very first "Best of The Chad and Cheese". In this episode, Chad picks his top 5 excerpts from interviews in 2021. These conversational segments are merely a sampling of the syrupy sweet podcasting snarky goodness which embodies the 120+ episodes The Chad and Cheese has published in 2021 alone. 

Kick back, relax and stay tuned for Joel's picks!

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Super Dad to the Rescue, when you’re little ones are sick and mom is under the weather, you do what you gotta for and clean up puke.

Benefits beyond tablestake and add and life insurance won’t cut it, what will will recruitment bring to the table that will turn heads

Is anyone happy at work, we ponder the choice of asking it anyways with the new Indeed Happiness Score

The neverending curiosity around money and salaries, does anyone know WTF they’re doing

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Join Torin and Julie in welcoming HBCU grad, author, and employer brand guru, John Graham to the show in part one of a two part interview you will not want to miss. John Graham’s professional passion is helping global companies uncover who they are at their core. Through award winning employer brand and employee value proposition development, Graham has discovered innovative ways to bring the humanity of employee stories to life. As a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) practitioner and culture transformation consultant, his work centers on improving the lived experiences of marginalized employee populations through bleeding-edge approaches that disrupt the status quo and create equitable and inclusive environments. Graham earned a bachelor’s degree in African Studies and a Master's degree in Education from Lincoln University. He also holds an executive certificate in Fostering Diversity and Inclusion from the Yale School of Management. Accolades include: - Double alumnus of Lincoln University - 1854 (Oldest degree-granting HBCU in the U.S.) - Fostering Diversity & Inclusion certification from Yale School of Management - Published author of Plantation Theory: The Black Professional’s Struggle Between Freedom & Security - Named to the 2020 Comparably List of Inspiring Employer Brand Leaders - Launched global employer brands for Fortune 50 Pharma & Biotech companies - Award-Winning culture marketing and talent attraction strategist

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Video remains one of the hottest technologies around when it comes to recruiting, and one company, Turazo, approaches it in a whole new way, bringing brand ambassadors and "culture-carrying employees" into the mix. Sound complicated? It kinda is. See if founder and CEO Pete Cipollone can survive the Firing Squad.

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We've been talking continuously about challenging talent markets on this podcast since March. However, we've not so far mentioned the one specific skill shortage which is affecting everyone. The pressure on many employers to scale up their talent acquisition functions is immense, but hiring experienced recruiters has arguably never been tougher.

So what can companies do to attract and retain experienced recruiter talent while also building capacity and capability?

My guest this week is Amy Schultz, Global Head of Talent Acquisition at Canva. Canva has been scaling up at speed over the last few years, and Amy has some very valuable perspectives and experiences to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

The recruiting landscape at Canva

The current challenges recruiting recruiters when talent supply is even tighter than it is for software engineers

Perceptions of talent acquisition within organisations

Attracting and retaining experienced recruiters

Investing in developing skills to build rather than just buy-in

New sources of recruiting talent

Raising up and celebrating the profession.

Work, craft and impact

Building peeks rather than fixing potholes

Humans and technology

The broadening scope of talent acquisition teams

What should TA leaders be focusing on in 2022

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Although I've tended to work with very large enterprise businesses as a consultant, I've always been fascinated by startups and the lessons larger, more established companies can learn from them. Although the actual execution will always be different, I think there are some real insights around how smaller, more agile companies think about talent, candidate experience, and recruiting technology. 

My guest this week is is Ben Butler, Head of People at Dublin based tech startup Evervault. Ben has worked for startup and scale-up companies on both sides of the Atlantic. He has a really fresh approach to talent and some great insights to share. 

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting challenges in technology

The power of a strong value proposition

Cutting through the noise

Building effective outreach and automating follow up

How do you keep great people?

Building culture while scaling

Democratising information

Build speed into a tech stack for competitive advantage

The future of recruiting

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For many years I've been reading about the work UK retailer Timpson does to hire ex-offenders and other marginalised groups. What they do is a win win win situation. It's a win for the ex-offenders who get a job, it's a win for society as employment is a crucial part of breaking the re-offending cycle, and it's a win for Timpson as they get access to a large talent pool.

Now more than ever, employers need to be challenging traditional policies and beliefs to think differently about hiring. With that in mind, I'm absolutely delighted to welcome Darren Burns, Timpson's National Recruitment Manager and Head of The Timpson foundation, to the show. As well as running Timpson's own ex-offender hiring initiatives, Darren also advisors other companies looking to do the same, and he has some unique experience and advice to share

In the interview, we discuss:

The work of The Timpson Foundation

Timpson's motivations behind recruiting ex-offenders

Breaking the re-offending cycle

Working with prisons in the recruiting process

The benefits of employing ex-offenders

Advice to other employers

Accelerator prisons and prison reform

What's next for Timpson

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This week we welcome guest co-host Michelle Berg and we realize the dangers of mixing alcohol and MC’ing an HR event, this is your cautionary tale. 

With only weeks to go in 2021, we strapped ourselves in for riding out the nutty season of performance reviews and everyone expecting a raise.  

Our recruitment insights this week - lots of talk about money!

Consider the consequences of employers who drop your wages if you choose to WFH

Do they really need more men in nursing? We call out the most cringe worthy recruitment campaign ever.

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It ain’t cool being a jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving, but it's definitely cool listening to the Thanksgiving Day episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast. Again this year, the boys are talkin’ turkey with the queen of chatbots, the one, the only, Quincy Valencia from Hourly. The crew goes through six 'Thankfuls' and three 'Turkeys'. Yummy! Pass the green bean casserole and turn it up to 11.

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Patterns are changing, especially when so many workers feel empowered to jump from their current jobs.

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Patterns are changing, especially when so many workers feel empowered to jump from their current jobs.

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Tiger King is back on Netflix, which makes the fact there's even an episode this week pretty amazing, but as much as we're junkies for Joe Exotic, we're more committed to opening HR's lizard brain on a weekly basis. So, here we go: This week, the boys cover news out of Indeed and Glassdoor, as well as funding rounds for Rippling and Workato. Then it's on to The Great Resignation, covering news and commentary around Amazon fines, trucker shortage myths, a-hole CEOs and working for multiple employers, compliments of WFH. We even throw in a Britney reference, 'cause she's free now and all that. Enjoy.

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In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Jes and Jessica, co-founders of the Rise Journey, a DEI Consultancy. They share their thoughts on a number of DEI related topics.

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Join Torin and Julie in welcoming creator of Being White, Redlining, and The Inheritance on a must listen interview. Kim Rice creates large-scale works using common materials. Her installations are a meditation on institutional racism and the policies that continue to affect American society today. Kim earned her BFA in Sculpture and MFA in Printmaking from the University of Oklahoma. Her work has been shown throughout the country including the Alexandria Museum of Art, the Fred Jones Museum of Art, the Northern Illinois Art Museum, the Delaware Museum of Art, the Peale Museum, and Prospect.4 Satellite. She has received multiple awards, including the McNeese Grant for Socially Engaged Practice.

Born in Kentucky, raised in California, educated in Oklahoma, loved in New Orleans and now home in Baltimore, Kim’s work is influenced by her two children and the pile of books by her bed.

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Have you hugged a veteran today? As we record on Veterans Day, Drill Sergeant Sowash breaks down ways to go beyond "Thank you for your service" and personally honoring vets you know. Reality check over ... On this week's show, the boys dig into:

Bullhorn's wallet share acquisition with cube19

HUGE funding round of Fountain

Buy or sell? w/ Mogul, Seasoned, and Hirewell

Walmart shows us that truck driving may not be a long-term career choice

The show ends on a high note - pun intended - with the GOP apparently leading the charge on the legalization of marijuana.

Profits over politics, kids! Just so No was so '80s anyway. Like, gag me with a spoon.

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Shelley came bearing gifts for Serge’s sweet little girls and they got to meet IRL over the weekend! Plus Shelley’s oldest son, Chandler crossed the stage, for his Bachelor’s degree this week, a very proud moment!

Our recruiting insights this week

Avoid seeing your boss the same way you see your dad. Mixed messages on calling your workplace ‘family’ can spell disaster

Solid recommendations for TA content in 2022. Employee stories will dominate top employer brands and it will be authentic, not scripted by CorpComm.  **Find our past episode with Elena Valentine, Founder of Skill Scout for more inspiration.

Employee Referral programs, please stop making employees grovel for their reward money! You are better off with a dollar store card and a hand written thank you note. TA needs to drive the whole thing - no strings attached. Just pay people their referral fee!

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This week, Torin and Julie discuss United Airlines ableism and the death of Engracia Figueroa and joined by special guests CEO, Michele Irwin, and Founding Board Member, Tinamarie Duff, of All Wheels Up. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz Intern: Elizabeth Duff Image by Hand in Hand: Engracia Figueroa

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Jackye and Katee had more fun with Tara Robertson and she brought a friend! Alexandra Samuel and Tara recently published an article in the Harvard Business Review entitled "Don't Let Hybrid Work Set Back Your DEI Efforts". They share some of their findings in this episode and so much more! Tune in to hear all about it! Here is a link to the article: https://hbr.org/2021/10/dont-let-hybrid-work-set-back-your-dei-efforts

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Allyn & Tracey break down the emotions behind navigating moments when transformation programs fails. The spawn for this article is based on Allyn's personal experiences with disappointment and feelings of failure she articulated in her article, "The Truth Is, Sometimes Good Things Go Bad". The best analogy came from Tracey, "They blew up your Alderann".

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Allyn & Tracey break down the emotions behind navigating moments when transformation programs fails. The spawn for this article is based on Allyn's personal experiences with disappointment and feelings of failure she articulated in her article, "The Truth Is, Sometimes Good Things Go Bad". The best analogy came from Tracey, "They blew up your Alderann".

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Allyn & Tracey break down the emotions behind navigating moments when transformation programs fails. The spawn for this article is based on Allyn's personal experiences with disappointment and feelings of failure she articulated in her article, "The Truth Is, Sometimes Good Things Go Bad". The best analogy came from Tracey, "They blew up your Alderann".

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Every company is looking to discover rare breeds, whether they be in the company already, or roaming the pastures of commerce externally. But the HOW tends to be elusive. That's why Chad & Cheese brings Rare Breed author Sunny Bonnell on the podcast to dive into what companies can do post-pandemic to retain and attract the kind of talent that can take an organization to new heights.

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Challenging talent markets and the increasing adoption of AI-driven technology are driving a revolution in recruiting. We now see recruiting automation happening in many ways, and it's becoming clear that talent acquisition is changing forever.

So how can employers use AI and automation technology to benefit recruiters and hiring managers and radically enhance the candidate experience?

To help answer these questions in a practical way, I have two brilliant guests: Rhonda Lloyd, Director of People Solutions & Recruiting at Webhelp and Barb Hyman, CEO at Predictive Hire.

In the interview, we discuss:

How Webhelp is addressing recruiting challenges across the globe

Putting candidates in control

Is this the most innovative time we've ever seen in talent acquisition?

Humans don't scale

Automation and Smart Technology

Finding undiscovered talent

The end of the resume?

Giving personalized feedback to every candidate

Increasing both speed and quality

Re-imagining the role of the recruiter

Ethics and transparency

Advice to talent acquisition leaders around AI vendors

Why the future is personalized

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Over the last couple of years, I've become fascinated by the innovation in the tools available to assess candidates in the recruiting process. While there are a growing number of impressive technologies and techniques, up to this point, it has actually been quite challenging to get solid case study evidence of effectiveness. 

My guest this week has recently run a case study based award process for assessment innovation that provides the evidence of adoption and success that we have been looking for.

I'm delighted to welcome Netherlands based consultant Bas van de Haterd back to the show. Bas has been on the podcast a few times showcasing new thinking in assessment and, in this conversation, talks us through five very different case studies of assessment innovation in action.

In the interview, we discuss:

Assessment innovation and adoption

Using inclusive assessment techniques to broader talent pools and increase diversity

Improving recruiter efficiency and effectiveness

Mapping cognitive capabilities and ignoring resumes

Lessons in spotting long term potential from elite sport

Alleviating burn out

Measuring ROI over long periods of time

Mitigating bias

What can we expect to see in 2022

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The industry remains as hot as ever, which is good because there's some Halloween weight I'm trying to burn. Anyway, Indeed leads off the show with the kind of tomfoolery that would even make 2007 Monster blush. (Yes, they're still who we thought they were.) Greenhouse marries a sourcing solution you've likely never heard of, and Fiverr tells LinkedIn and Upwork, "Hold my beer." A scorching round of Buy-or-Sell follows, as well as a look at how Sam's Club is crushing the retention issue plaguing so many organizations, and a mathematician teaches a masterclass on marketing: Sex sells.

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When the fabulous Ed Han suggests you interview two of his favourite hiring managers, you know it'll be a brilliant conversation! And it would seem I am not Ed's only fan. Do your hiring managers speak about you in such glowing terms? 🤩

In this episode you'll hear Cenlar's Girish Jain, VP of Enterprise QA & Architecture, and Josh Goldstien, VP of Operations Strategy talk about:

hiring when the company initially wasn't ready for remote working & when you want to use a whiteboard!

overcoming the hierarchy of communicating and the benefits of not flying people in for interviews.

the reasons Girish will help source people, gives the heads-up on future hiring, and the benefit of giving prompt feedback

the reasons Josh gets involved in the offer - super important in this market!

reeling in the people you want to work with - it's a partnership, a 2 way street.

...and recruiters are not a service!

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind.

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.Calvin Ridley leaves the NFL for his metal well-being. Was the response different from a female athlete's focus on mental health? Memorial Hermann Health Systems, Houston hospital, fires a Black CDO before he starts because of his focus on race AND he drives a Porsche. Restuarants and all of forms of hospitality are having an especially tough time restaffing after the pandemic. In fact, more than 10% of all hospitality roles are unfilled. Is it money or something else? What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz Intern: Elizabeth Duff Image by Free-Photos from Pixabay

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We're usually pretty skeptical about company-sponsored surveys. Not surprisingly, the data usually turns out to be a self-serving pile of hot garbage or a half-assed attempt at getting some love from the media. And then there's Talent Alpha's new global talent report, "The A3 Work Revolution: Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere." We dug it so much, we had to have Talent Alpha CEO (and Firing Squad alum) Prez Berendt on the podcast to highlight some of the survey's finer points and nuances. After that, we dig into a recent acquisition out of the Nordics, claiming to be the most important thing to happen in Scandinavia since the Viking Age. Skol, um, maybe. Then what Chad & Cheese show is complete without something about strippers, porn stars or gun-toting robots, so we have one of those stories too... this time, out of the UK.

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Join us as we celebrate the 50th episode of Inclusive AF and share some of our memories!

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Allyn & Tracey have a fascinating conversation with Coby Schneider from Intel. Coby has a an intriguing career path from TA operations and recruitment marketing focus to embedding within the business to drive workforce strategy and workplace of the future programs.

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This week is a bit different as we will be airing our 100th episode, so for this 99th episode we decided to do our weekly recruitment insight episode. Shelley ponders Botox but then realizes that Zoom has a beauty filter! As always we discuss today's recruitment challenges.

Should you have a one click apply option?

HR Professionals tell us that Talent Acquisition sucks....are they right or just clueless?

One of our favourite ATS Lever raises 50 million dollars

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As external talent markets get ever more challenging, internal mobility is becoming a more significant issue. Unsurprisingly then, one of the major themes of the past year has been the ever closer relationship between talent acquisition and talent management. 

So how are the most innovative companies holistically looking at talent acquisition and talent management, and how is technology helping them.

My guest this week is Lisa Niesen, Head of Talent Management Solutions at SHL. Lisa has been doing a lot of work at the intersection of talent acquisition and talent management and has some valuable insights to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

What effect are challenging external talent markets having on talent management?

The growing importance of retention and mobility

Career paths and development opportunities to keep people engaged

Rethinking traditional career structures

The role of assessment and technology

Gathering insights on skills

Being better with data

Advice on bringing talent acquisition and talent management together within the organisation

What does the future look like?

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This week Kim Wilkinson teams up with Serge to try to sell Shelley on getting a French Bulldog! We also tackle some recruitment topics.

Should companies asking for breakdown of agency rates for contractors? Are they entitled to this information?

Shelley really hates panel interviews and tries to show us a better way!

We give our review on Fishbowl, is it the alternative to Linkedin.

Are people on linkedin real? or are we all just pretending

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What's scarier than ghosts and goblins on Halloween? How about

LinkedIn looking to slice up Fiverr and Upwork,

The Great Resignation heads to a Denver airport and - horror of horrors -

Not one, but TWO Canadian startups in Buy-or-Sell w/ FloCareer, SkyHive & Bridgit

It's a razorblade hidden in an apple headed straight for your eardrums, boys, and girls, as we also cover robots in your McDLT and your buffalo wings. Witches get stitches on the latest podcast, featuring your two favorite warlocks! Boo, indeed. Er, I mean, boo Indeed (yeah, we torch them too).

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Citigroup agrees to conduct a racial equity audit, perhaps to some of their executives chagrin. Texas Legislature continues attacks on it's citizenry signing a bill this week attacking transgender student athletes. Forbes' Andrew Pulrang's, gives us his NDEAM 10 must knows about disability and employment. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz Intern: Elizabeth Duff Image by scan5353 from Pixabay

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There is a lot of talk about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in talent acquisition, but when you dig below the surface, the amount of practical action happening doesn't live up to the promises made.

A few weeks ago long time friend of the podcast Bas Van De Hatred introduced me to one of the most inspiring recruiters I've spoken to for a long time.

Eugène van den Hemel helps employers recruit talent from communities that are historically underrepresented in the job market. In the last few years, he has been doing some pioneering work helping to connect refugees with employment opportunities and, in so doing, opening employers' eyes to an incredible pool of talent.

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting to make matches that matter

Dealing with inaccurate preconceptions

The power of humans meetings humans

The problem with current thinking on certifications

Advice to employers looking to hire refugees

Broader leaning for recruitment in a time of automation and technology

Jobs For Humanity

What is the future of recruiting?

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Technology has been a great thing for recruiting, but there's a dark side. Namely, artificial intelligence. A.I. has made companies more efficient and effective, but it's also been a roadblock for job candidates and a hindrance for hidden workers to get ahead. EEOC commissioner Keith Sonderling joins the boys to give a high-level education on the current state of how the government is dealing with the questions around tech and employment.

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Print media's history of Printing Hate exposed. Do gay parents Pete and Chasten "deserve" parental leave? And Texas makes the show again with their new social studies law leaving teachers and administrators asking if they will need to teach students opposing views to the Holocaust. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz Image by Anthony Scanlon from Pixabay

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Talent markets are crazy, recruiting is tough, and it can be challenging to get any sort of perspective on what is going on. So how can we make sense of everything and, in a world that feels out of control, what can talent acquisition professionals actually do that will make a difference.

My guest this week is Andrew Flowers, Labor Economist at Appcast. Andrew is combining traditional labor market analysis with Appcast's unique proprietary data into Recruitnomics. Recruitnomics combines cutting edge insights with real-world business applications making Andrew overview of market trends in this interview a must listen for everyone.

In the interview, we discuss:

Job market trends

Data sets and sources

Key variable and levers

Wage growth

The impact of government support

The continuing influence of the pandemic

Rising recruiting costs

Will things ever "normalize"?

Skinny application flows

Politics and policies

Programmatic tools

Advice to talent acquisition professionals

Long term trends to keep an eye on

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Shelley was a cat person, I know surprising right?? but now she has decided it's time for a dog so we're looking for recommendations on breeds that she should look at. As always we cover loads of Talent Acquisition and labor market topics.

Millenials and Gen Z look at the 9-5 model and decide "nope not for me". Is freelance the new way to work?

Why are very few companies hiring junior developers?

Have you ever lied on your resume? research shows that 40% of us do.

Business in Florida are complaining they can't find anyone to work so someone did an experiment of applying for 60 companies that he was fully qualified for the role. You will be shocked by how many response he got.

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Stop me if you've heard this one before: HR tech company gets buckets of money. Well, the song remains the same this week, as companies like BetterUp, Deel, and Wonolo keep ringing the register. Also, Cornerstone OnDemand goes private (that always works out well, right?), and a little buy-or-sell with Continuum, Interviewing.io, and Reejig. And if you thought robotic dogs that could open doors were scary, how about ones with guns attached to their backs? Yikes! Listen before civilization checks out for good.

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After The Chad, introduced me to the fabulous people at Evergreen Podcasts, who now host this very podcast, and we got chatting about hiring disasters, I just had to interview their Chief Creative Officer, David Allen Moss. Stop what you're doing, grab pen & paper, and hear Katrina & David laugh a lot and talk about:

Commodore 64s, digital signage, and the beginnings of Evergreen!

How Evergreen differentiate themselves through their collections - check out the HR interview playlist!

Adjusting to a hybrid world & going against the flow and buying a building 😮

Getting clear on hiring workflows, and the problem with out of sight, of mind.

Creatively sourcing applicants and working out who they need to hire.

Going beyond the CV and trusting your recruiter to get a good fit.

The book Creativity Inc and the power of collaboration in the future of podcasting.

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind.

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With everything that is going on in the market, it is more important than ever to understand the factors that make people feel positive enough to want to advocate for their employer or feel negative enough to want to leave their job.

My guest this week is Marcus Buckingham, Head of Research, People and Performance at The ADP Research Institute. Marcus is well known in the industry for doing pioneering research work. He has just realised a report with a new model that measures the impact and performance of HR through the lens of employee experience. The results are fascinating and illustrate just how much influence the performance of HR can have on a company's talent brand.

In the interview, we discuss:

The current state of the market and the reassessment of work

The HR XPerience Score

Measuring the effectiveness of HR through employee experience

Can HR drive positive employee behaviours?

What are the levers to create a great experience?

How HR experience drives talent brand

How HR can drive attrition

Characteristics of a high scoring HR function

Results that run counter to current megatrends

The importance to humans of being seen at work

What does the future look like

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Amanda Young has just authorized an amazing children's book and she is here to share what drove her to write the book, "Jumo the Unicorn". Amanda is so transparent about her journey about how to drive inclusion and Jackye and Katee loved hearing about it all-including the animals!

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Did you know bathing in beer is taking Europe by storm? Yeah, that's the kind of show you can expect as you push Play. Volonte CEO and founder Daniel Masata join the Euro crew to discuss beer bathing as well as two continental unicorns that just got funded. Then they dig into more funding as record amounts of cabbage flood the industry. If it's Facebook news you want, we have that too, as the social media giant has announced Europe can expect thousands of new jobs over the next five years ... but is Facebook just playing PR and bribing the Old Country? Maybe. Gotta listen to find out.

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We talk about candidates, employees and their behavior during the Great Resignation.

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If you're numb over unicorns, well, get over it. This week, the boys highlight two more newly minted members of the Billion Dollar Valuation Club. Yup, welcome Hibob and Karat to the unicorn party. Also on this episode:

Canvas and Luma, er, Pillar are in the news (or suffer growing pains, depending on your point of view).

Snagajob says "Everything Must Go!",

LinkedIn unplugs from China (kinda),

and back by popular demand: Porn!

Stop watching The Squid Game and enjoy another riveting episode of HR's most dangerous podcast.

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This is a time that recruiters have leverage when it comes to picking the right role with the right company at the right price. We offer our insights on what recruiters should be looking for when looking at new jobs as we're joined by recruitment and HR tech savant Allie Knull.

Allie ask the question what is the difference is between Job Boards vs. Aggregators

How do you avoid getting into indeed Jail

Stop enabling hiring managers..time to say no (in a nice way)

Technology and Brand Reputation are key points you should consider before joining a company as a recruiter.

Plus find out why Shelley is addicted to Squid games and why Serge always has the last word.

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In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Joseph Ifiegbu about futbol, dream jobs and the tool he co-founded that can help HR teams by analyzing their data, eqtble.

Prior to eqtble, he garnered extensive experience in the field of analytics. Most recently, as the head of HR Technology at Snap, he implemented best practices for systems architecture and built the foundation and strategy for HR analytics. While leading WeWork’s People Analytics team, he built out the team to support over 15,000 employees and help improve employee engagement and satisfaction.

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Recruiting automation via conversational AI is proving to be an effective way to help solve some of the unique challenges in today's talent markets. But how are employers actually using it, what benefits are they getting, and how do they manage the balance between humans and machines.

My guest this week is Victor Gaines, Senior Vice President, Talent Acquisition at Aveanna Healthcare. Aveanna has been using automation technology to vastly increase efficiencies in its recruiting process. Victor has some exceptional advice and insights to share on choosing and implementing technology, as well as some fascinating thoughts around the future of recruiting.

In the interview, we discuss:

Talent acquisition challenges in the home care market

Working at scale when speed is a critical issue

The role of technology in creating internal and external efficiencies

Building an engaging candidate experience with automation

Being people first

Balancing technology and humans

Advice to TA leaders on evaluating and buying technology

What to look for in vendor partners

Screening people in rather than ruling them out

The future of recruiting

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Our reaction to Dave Chapelle's most recent Netflix Special and the hypocrisy of cancel culture. NC LT Gov doubles down calling LGBTQ individuals "filth" and we share a Raider's Superfan's reaction to Jon Gruden. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz Intern: Elizabeth V. Duff Image: Dave Chapelle

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Digital transformation is currently one of the fundamental drivers of talent strategy for many organizations. Ensuring your company has the right balance of skills is a complex task involving talent acquisition, L&D, retention, internal mobility and an effective HR and Recruiting tech stack.

So how are employers managing the complexity of all of this while prioritizing the employee experience?

My guest this week is Harm Otten, Executive Vice President Human Resources at DHL Global Forwarding & Freight. Harm has spent the last few years focusing on the talent aspect of digital transformation within his organization, putting recruiting technology at the heart of the strategy.

In the interview, we discuss:

Digitizing the HR organization

Improving the employee experience

Creating a job architecture and an internal career marketplace

Building an HR tech stack around a core systems

The advantages of using end to end recruiting technology

The impact of the pandemic on working practice

How digital transformation is changing skill requirements in a competitive market

The vital importance of EVP and being an attractive employer

Being applicant centric

Combing cultures after an acquisition

The future of recruiting

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Strivr CEO Derek Belch discusses how VR learning works and where it’s going.

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The weather is getting cooler in America, but we can lucky still stay warm with the hot embers of the ongoing CareerBuilder dumpster fire. This time, our favorite old-timey job board is rebranding with a new logo and ad campaign. Mmmm, toasty. We also dive into the new investment at The Mom Project and play some buy-or-sell with a couple of internationally focused companies and one "Salesforce for recruiting" wannabe. Watch out Gem! To end the show, we take a break from porn and prostitutes to focus on the growth of Africa and Big Tech's continental invasion, featuring Google, Facebook, and Microsoft.

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As our working lives become ever more focused on digital screens and devices, how can employers ensure that they support their employees' mental wellness? Also, with the growth of digital tracking and surveillance in work technology, how can HR step up to defend cultures and long term productivity by ensuring people are treated as humans and not machines. 

My guest this week is Dr Anastasia Dedyukhina, founder of Consciously Digital. Anastasia writes, speaks and coaches extensively around the impact of devices on wellbeing and the challenges around the use of technology at work. 

In the interview, we discuss:

Screens, devices and mental health

Establishing boundaries and regaining balance

How employers can help

Productivity and deep work

Digital presenteeism 

Tracking and surveillance

Why HR needs to step up

What would an ideal world look like

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Serge drops that he will be retiring from recruitment to run for city council next election in 2025. Will the things he's said on this podcast hurt him in his political careers?! Both Serge and Shelley have to be censored this week, that won't help. We cover a lot of segments this week that focus on men and their place in the future workforce.

Men are opting out of University, what's causing this and what does it mean to the future workforce?

Truck drivers, why is it impossible to recruit them? maybe treat them better.

Pizza Hut is trying to hire 40,000 service workers in 3 months with no new benefits, wage hike but instead hold a Career Development Event with motivational speakers and bs benefits... just embarrassing!

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Keeping employees is as difficult as attracting employees at the moment, and, as ever, it is particularly tough in the tech sector. The relationship between employees and employers is changing, and shared values are a vital part of this.

My guest this week is Michel Visser, VP People Success & Enablement at software company Unit4. Unit4 are taking a holistic values driven approach to recruitment and retention. It is also a strategy based on innovation and experimentation, and Michel has some extremely valuable perspectives to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

Recruiting challenges in tech

Talent on the move

Making work more than transactional

Taking a holistic view of employee success

Being innovative with compensation and benefits

Meaning versus tokenism

Using core values as a compass

Demonstrating values through candidate experience

What is the future of work?

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LA County has returned stolen land in Manhattan Beach to the Bruce Family. This week, California Gov Newsom signs legislation to return $75MM worth of Manhattan Beach beachfront property to the descendants of Charles and Willa Bruce. In the UK, the Sport Council Equality Group released their "Review into Transgender Inclusion in Domestic Sport in the UK' and our discussion how to create access, equity and fairness for athletes, including transgender athletes. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz Image by CaliforniaBeaches.com

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Germany's new chancellor is named Olaf, which is also the name of the snowman from Frozen. Where are we going with this? No clue, but this episode of all-things-Euro is packed with goodness, including France's Freelance.com going all-in on growing operations by gobbling up everything in sight, apparently. What else? Rich companies in the EU are leveraging government policy to get cheap and free labor from poorer countries to join their ranks, while the EV business is set to dislodge some 500,000 auto workers from the European workforce, which makes re-skilling that much more important. Or maybe apprenticeships, powered by unicorn-in-training Multiverse, has the answers. Hard questions. This calls for another round. Prost!

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This week we bring one of our favourite person in recruitment Allie Knull. Allie shares some exciting personal news and brings the fire!

We deep dive on the one question to ask if you want to know if your candidate is full of s***

Are Career Fairs still a thing? Who actually gets value from them...not the candidate and not the company...maybe the company hosting them?

Where do you start to build an inclusive recruitment process

Is HR the right department to handle DE&I

Lots of opinions....tell us how you feel?

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Talent Acquisition is uniquely challenging at the moment. Impossible talent markets, virtual recruiting, and evolving EVPs are just a small selection of TA leaders' current challenges. At the same time, we are seeing an unprecedented amount of investment and innovation in recruiting technology being driven by AI. So how does everything join up, and how can talent acquisition teams use AI in a strategic way to address the problems they face

My guest this week is Rebecca Warren, part of the Customer Success team at Eightfold AI. Rebecca is a former TA leader, which gives her some unique insights and advice to share on using AI strategically. 

In the interview, we discuss:

Talent Acquisition challenges

The best way of connecting with candidates in the current environment

Looking beyond the resume

Using AI to fin skill adjacency, talent and potential

DE&I, what is happening in practice?

Which new ways of working are long term trends

How AI can make Talent Acquisition more strategic

The evolution of the EVP

Practical examples of AI in action

Advice to talent acquisition leader on AI

What does the future hold?

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Love unicorns? This episode of your favorite podcast has two, baby! That's right, Gem and Andela have joined the ranks of the $1 billion club. And by the looks of a few others on this week's show, more could be coming with Syndio raising $50 million this week and Cocoon getting a plump Series A. We also ask whether or not chatbots are all the same, or are some just posers in life's big taco stand? Then we welcome October the right way with Amazon scaring the hell out of us for the low, low cost of $1,000.

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Gerard Charlot is passionate about helping the BIPOC community by addressing systemic challenges in the health care system by educating people of color about their health issues and connecting them with clinical trials. The Idhini Platform is a digital health marketplace, for and by the BIPOC community, that provides community members with the best and most relevant clinical trial options and health information.  Gerard Charlot has over 20 years of experience in technology, finance, healthcare, as well as community outreach and development. He has also been involved in a number of civic initiatives. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production by DJ Cellz Image Gerard Charlot

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Kim joins Shelley & Serge as our special co-host. After we get all the nicitiest out of the way, it gets pretty dicey.

You can hear Serge blushing as we had to use our very first censor bleep! Listen in as Shelley and Kim call it like it is!

Sending your job order to multiple agencies is like hiring multiple accountants to do your tax and only paying the one you liked the most.

Guarantees on job placements. The tea on this one was pretty hot!

Recruiters hanging out their own shingle? We bring you some food for thought.

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We throw the kitchen sink at this one. Three IPOs, five startups in rapid Buy-or-Sell, a new unicorn, LinkedIn taking on Upwork and Fiverr with its evolving gig marketplace, and the People's Champion is apparently a former Walmart employee. “Fk management, and fk this job, I quit.” Power to the people, powered as always by our sponsors Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite .

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We have the ultimate jack of all trades in recruitment Will Van Middendorp join Serge and Shelley as a co-host. We cover some really controversial topics and you might not agree with some of the opinions.

Can you add Vaccination requirements on your job ads?

Will the office ever be the same?

Bad apples in recruitment

Tell us what you think, are we off base?

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Apple and Activision face the reality of a woke AF Silicon valley. Anti-Muslim AI shows that AI isn't ready for primetime, but VC and M/A keeps flowing in to TA and HR solutions promising a quick fix. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production by DJ Cellz CATK Intern: Elizabeth Duff Image by Comfreak from Pixabay

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Over the last couple of years, I've developed an increasing interest in the use of behavioural science in advertising and marketing and its growing relevance in broader business disciplines. I'm absolutely convinced that it offers a route to incredible innovation in talent acquisition and therefore is something we should all be actively investigating.

So what is behavioural science, and what implications does it have for recruiting, diversity and the future of work. There is no one better to explain all of this than Rory Sutherland, Vice Chairman of Ogilvy. Rory is one of marketing most original thinkers and influential speakers. He is a pioneer of behavioural science in business, and it's a huge privilege to have him on the show to share his thoughts about talent and talent acquisition.

In the interview, we discuss:

Why Behavioural Science is the science of knowing what economists are wrong about

The dangers of defensive decision making

Finding psychological truths and the importance of emotions

Why Uber has a map

Recruiting for diversity of thought

How Ogilvy have redesigned the recruiting process to find people of exceptional non-standard ability

While the average is not the optimal solution

The difference between equality of opportunity and diversity of opportunity

Why work is a relational relationship, not a transactional one

Cost reduction versus lost opportunities

Personalising the value exchange between employer and employee

The future of work and why it has taken a pandemic to get us there

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Since the beginning of the pandemic, Sweden has been an outlier, hoping that bypassing lockdowns and instead, bracing herd immunity would win the day. Well, it hasn't worked out very well, and the country is grappling with next steps. That's why we've brought Sweden's Elin Martenzon, Tengai Unbiased CEO, to discuss the state of her country. You'll learn why Sept. 29 is such a big day. Then we travel to Italy, where the continent's first COVID passport mandate is about to be implemented. The answer to whether or not the rest of Europe will follow suit may surprise you. You want acquisitions? We got acquisitions, covering Amsterdam-based Impraise getting gobbled up by San Francisco-based unicorn BetterUp.

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The relationship between employees and employers is fundamentally changing. The integration of work and life has never been more in focus. Making work better for employees is no longer a wish list item; it is imperative for competitive advantage. So who is leading the way here, and are we seeing a short term trend or a permanent shift?

To help answer these questions, my guest this week is Scott Behson, a professor of management at Fairleigh Dickinson University. Scott has recently published a book called The Whole Person Workplace, which explores how employers are building better workplaces by focusing on Work-Life, Wellness and Employee Support.

In the interview, we discuss:

What is the whole person workplace?

Rethinking work

What are leading employers doing

Flexibility and trust

Small companies versus large companies

The growing power and influence of employees

Workers whose roles are tied to time and place

What could the future look like

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You want some PPC? How about Porn, Politics, and Canvas. Boy, this week's show has it all. Firing Squad alums Canvas (no, not that Canvas) and Humanly grabbed some investment money and some juicy new valuations, while Glassdoor makes a fishy acquisition that Chad compares to Dice's dumb stake in The Muse. A battle is brewing between traditional ATS's and the bots of the future. Who ya' got? Chad & Cheese sound off. Also, Salesforce messes with Texas and gets political, as they have a tendency to do. Of course, we had to end on a story we're describing as revenge porn 2.0. Creepy? Oh yeah!

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Talent markets continue to be challenging globally, and employers have to think differently to fill the talent gaps within their organisations. So what strategies are working, and what might the future look like?

My guest this week is Heather Moyer. Heather is the President, CEO and Founder of HNM Systems, which provides talent and consulting services to the Telecommunications, Utilities and IT sectors. Heather shares her experience and expertise of working in markets with severe skill shortages and discusses how employers are responding to the current situation.

In the interview, we discuss:

Talent market challenges

Focusing on retention and meeting the needs of employees

Career development and mentoring

Authentic employee engagement

Predictive analytics for talent acquisition

Identifying and persuading hard to find talent

What could the future look like

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Tracey & Allyn welcome Derek Murphy-Johnson from Kindercare Education to the Rebelcast. Derek unpacks the concept of one size fits one, a message on the importance of treating each candidate as a unique individual and addressing each recruiting challenge with a unique recruiting solution.

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What can we learn from looking at the history of engagement with corporations and underrepresented communities? Why haven't we learned the lessons of our past and changed the systems and structures that keep inequity in place. Simple, that is the way the way the White Power Structure maintains their power. This week, a deeply personal story from Torin, and how a NYT article Black Capitalism’ Promised a Better City for Everyone. What Happened? helped Julie to understand it. Also, Salesforce tells TX to shove it, the impact of student debt on women, and the US Census puts out the Poverty Index. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music: DJ Cellz CATK Intern: Elizabeth Duff Image by InstagramFOTOGRAFIN from Pixabay

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Are Gig Workers Full-Time Employees? Debate Playing Out in Europe. Whether or not gig workers will eventually be considered full-time employees is an ongoing debate in parts of the U.S. - think Prop 22 in California - but in Europe, many of these decisions are playing out for us, and the boys dig into this and other topics with special guest Matt Alder of The Recruiting Future Podcast. Also covered is how Google has been illegally underpaying thousands of temporary workers in dozens of countries, including many in Europe. Lastly, the show dives into the recent investment in startup Applied, known for its unbiased hiring service, and whether or not the trend of diversity hiring hits the same in Europe as it does in the U.S. and elsewhere.

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Employee experience, hybrid working, DE&I, workforce fluidity, and workplace technology. These are just a few of the challenges employers face as they shape their talent strategies for these disruptive times. So how are the leading companies thinking and behaving, and what lessons are there for everyone else to learn.

My guest this week is Tammy Browning, President of KellyOCG. Kelly OCG has recently published their 2021 Global Workforce Agility report, and in our interview, Tammy talks through the findings and identifies what vanguard companies are doing to deal with the current challenges.

The current state of global talent markets

The main challenges employers are now facing.

The relation between leading edge technology and productivity

Deploying DE&I strategies across the total workforce

Workforce fluidity; bridging talent gaps with contingent labour

Why employee experience is critical to overall success

The Great Resignation

How technology is being deployed and adopted

What long terms trends should we be monitoring?

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Football is in the air and Hail Mary's are flyin' all over the place this week.

Dice pumped $3 million into The Muse ... can you say midlife crisis?

Indeed's master plan. Yes, the seeds of CPAS can be found as far back at 2016 (yep, we did the research) ...but then they neurodiversity themselves - so dumb.

What else?

Amazon is encouraging its contractors to bypass weed background checks,

Trucking gets a good dose of tech with YouCruit's Lanefinder,

and Harvard says automation is to blame for our unemployment problem.

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On Sept 1, Texas put into place the country's most restrictive abortion law and in their most deplorable move yet turned citizens into bounty hunters. SCOTUS provides no injunctive relief allowing nearly 50 years of a women's right to choose to effectively be overturned. Some companies came to the rescue, some continued to donate to the politicians who passed the law. They all still played the game in Texas. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production by Chad Sowash CATK Intern: Elizabeth Duff Image by Engin Akyurt from Pixabay

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2021 has seen mindblowing levels of investment in HR and Talent Acquisition technology. Work Tech, as it is now becoming known, is strategically critical to talent acquisition, and it is essential that leaders keep themselves up to date with the market.

To help us all with this, I'm delighted to welcome George LaRocque back to the podcast. George is one of the leading analysts who track talent acquisition technology, and it was great to get a market update from him.

In the interview, we discuss:

Why HR Tech is morphing into Work Tech

The trends that the pandemic has accelerated

Automation

Merges, acquisitions and the implications for employers

Advice to employers on shaping Work Tech strategies

George's new community based Accelerator, Impact WorkTech

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Nobody likes boring, but you will enjoy some highly profitable tech sprinkled in with a little messaging cool shit here and there, On this week's pod:

Background check solution (zzzzz) Checkr now has a $4.6 billion valuation after raising $250 million.

Workstream and TalkPush are making big waves in the messaging space - one of which hopes to turn Instagram into a recruitment juggernaut!

Then Solo, a well pedigreed and funded Seattle-based startup that is empowering gig workers to make more.

And who wins the DARWIN AWARD this week? ZipRecruiter or LinkedIn?

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Big drum roll… We are officially part of the the Evergreen Podcast Network! As part of their newly created HR channel, we join forces with the biggest HR Influencers from around the world! On this very special episode, we are stoked to have the original bad boy of recruitment Chad Sowash, co-host of the Chad and Cheese Podcast. Joining us from his working vacation in Portugal, we test his knowledge of their local culture. 

Hospitality workers get their voices heard; stop blaming CERB as the reason they are running back to work

Talkpush joins hands with IG/FB to give employers access to Millenial talent

Myth buster time: the problem with high volume recruiting and solutions

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Parenting is NOT easy and today's episode explores some more parental (and caregiver) woes and some solutions in the works. China is limiting screen time for all children under the age of 18! How has the pandemic exposed the childcare industry, demonstrated the dramatic need for caregiver leave and supports, and where are fixes coming from. Let us know what you think of our new segment celebrating the accomplishments of women in all walks of life, HerVoice! What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music by: Marcel "DjCellz" Boykin CATK Intern: Elizabeth Duff Image by Here and now, unfortunately, ends my journey on Pixabay from Pixabay

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As we move through the summer, Allyn and Tracey tackle the challenge of hiring for jobs, when so many jobs are new, evolving or have never existed before. How do you market the work do work when everything is in such flux? Are we all just making SH**t up because we have no clue what any of us are even really hiring for.

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As we move through the summer, Allyn and Tracey tackle the challenge of hiring for jobs, when so many jobs are new, evolving or have never existed before. How do you market the work do work when everything is in such flux? Are we all just making SH**t up because we have no clue what any of us are even really hiring for.

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What do you get when you mash up 4 podcasts into one? Lots of voices and even more opinions.   > Debbie Tuel from The Joy Podcast   > Julie Sowash and Torin Ellis from Crazy and The King podcast   > and Tim Sackett from the HR Famous podcast join the boys to talk about:

  • Why are recruiters so damn hard to find? 
  • Does recruiter experience matter?
  • Why is Europe a decade behind on the US in DEI?
  • and when will women come back to the workforce, specifically recruiting? 
  • Are companies doing enough in DEI? 
  • It's People, Process, Technology dummy! 
  • Working harder is not a sustainable business strategy

This show coming to you pre-recorded from Transform Detroit LIVE brought to you by Symphony Talent. Enjoy!

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The recruiting industry behaves like a chess game sometimes. Pieces can move slowly or quickly, pieces get taken off the board and some get added over time. And like chess, the players who see many moves ahead tend to be the biggest winners. This week saw a lot of chess gamin’. The most impressive move was made by Paradox, but Job.com and Compono made moves too. Another player in iCIMS filed for an IPO to help it reload. Additionally this week, Apple was in the news, along with Uber and Lyft and OnlyFans made its way into the podcast for its second straight week. Enjoy another masterpiece powered by Sovren, JobAdx and Jobvite.

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Ok let's get Real. How many career sites are actually valuable to candidates? How many are just vanity projects for recruitment marketers, companies and over zealous digital marketing teams? Given today's candidate behavior what value does a career site even provide? Is it time to rethink the whole strategy? Allyn and Tracey taken the topic of career sites and debate whether creating one is even worth it.

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ACQUISITIONS -- FUNDING -- and mechanical fortune tellers? WTAF is going on during this week's show? Well, the boys are all over the place, talkin' acquisitions:

Sourcr

Jobillico

and Lessonly.

As well as investments in:

Anthill

and Retrain.ai, the Zoltar of hiring tech (a competitor Pymetrics.)

Then the LinkedIn-for-doctors, Doximity, is crushing it, along with a nurse who's now making bank on OnlyFans. Oh, and COVID ... sorry to end on such a down note. Another orgasm for your ears, powered by Jobvite, JobAdx, and Sovren.

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Julie and Torin share some documentaries and books currently in rotation for CATK, including Black Godfather and Woke Inc.. What is on your summer watching and reading list? Then DDI CEO Report, PBS invests in diverse creators, and check on the veterans and women in your life this week. #Afghanistan Let us know what you think of our new segment celebrating the accomplishments of women in all walks of life, HerVoice! What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! Interested in sponsoring Crazy and the King? Contact us today! Email us at CATK@CrazyandtheKing.com JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music by: Marcel "DjCellz" Boykin Image by Thanks for your Like • donations welcome from Pixabay

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Nike demonstrates inclusion SELLS, sometimes too well. Cuomo is out. The first female Gov of NY is in. Tesla settles to the tune of $1.2MM. Then, as implied by the title, Torin gets da business from #disabledtwitter. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music by: Marcel "DjCellz" Boykin Image by ijmaki from Pixabay

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Zip a-de-do-da, zip-a-de ZipRecruiter! Since going public in May, the No. 2 job site in the US has been on a tear, and the boys outline everything, including a Facebook partnership and an assault on Glassdoor. We play Remote Rapid Fire and break down reopening headlines from Google, LinkedIn, Amazon and much more. And don’t call it a comeback! Job boards are back in fashion, kinda like Cheesman’s fanny pack. It's another blockbuster sponsored by Sovren, JobAdx, and Jobvite.

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The Olympics are over, but Chad & Cheese’s quest for the European gold medal for podcasting is just beginning. This week, Lieven gets all fired up about Adecco buying up a company in his own backyard in Belgium. Author Katrina Collier joins the crew to talk about Indeed’s recent move to CPAS over CPC and the overall issues of assclowns crawling the web for job content to rip off job seekers and legit businesses. Rounding out the show is a hailstorm of commentary on the recent move of Cornerstone OnDemand going private. Word of 2021 in the Old Country? Douchebaggery.

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Indeed Sucks ... and Swallows This week, you get not one but two Indeed dipsy-doo, switcheroos.

First, they're moving away from the PPC model that helped make them a multi-billion dollar business.

Second, they don't really like how employers are engaging with candidates on their event product, so they just shut 'em down from pre-show communications.

Beyond Indeed, the boys are talkin'

a new unicorn CultureAmp,

LinkedIn limits,

a lipstick-on-a-pig acquisition,

Target telling Walmart to stick it, and, oh yeah, Buy-or-Sell where one of our fearless cohosts goes three Sell ratings in a row.

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Chad and Cheese, Symphony Talent's Chief Joy Officer, Debbie Tuel and SACKET Join the Pod for a Motor City Podcast Mash UP! What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music by: Marcel "DjCellz" Boykin Image: Torin schoolin' Julie

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People with disabilities represent 15% of the global population but are often left out of diversity initiatives, programs, surveys, and even basic conversations about workplace inclusion. Recent research from Global Disability inclusion and Mercer on the engagement gap of employees with disabilities shows a difference in some areas of up to 13% lower than non-disabled colleagues.

So with many employers seeking to do better with equity, inclusion and belonging, what can they be doing to address this problem.

To help us get some more insights into the issues, my guests this week are the research report authors Meg O’Connell, CEO & Founder of Global Disability Inclusion and Pete Rutigliano, Senior Principal at Mercer.

In the interview, we discuss:

•   The State of Disability Employee Engagement Study

•   Employer attitudes to disabilities

•   Attitudinal barriers and dispelling myths

•   Research methodology and scope

•   Reasons for the engagement gap

•   The employee experience for people with disabilities

•   Building the right level of trust to allow people to be themselves

•   Hidden disabilities

•   The benefits of inclusion

•   Lessons from the pandemic

•   Hopes and predictions for the coming years

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Remember when you thought Microsoft had lost their collective mind when they dropped $26.2 billion for LinkedIn? HA! Well, it looks like Microsoft is going to have the last laugh because LinkedIn is crushing it. And who’s not crushing it? How about Monster and Job.com? Shocker, right? Of course, there’s more WFH and COVID insanity that the boys cover. How about some MadMen, 2021-style? Got that too. Oh, and Walmart does some good (suck it, Amazon!)

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Torin and Julie are back together again for the first time in person since 2019. We joined so many amazing podcasters to celebrate Symphony Talent's Joy Roadshow! We catch up on dumb, even unitentionally, tweets from Warton IO, Adam Grant. Bad police officers spoil the bunch, Julie is always learning from Torin. Last a new segment we call HERVoice. Each week we will be celebrating an amazing diverse women who change the world. What is your take on this week's stories? Tell us on Twitter, FB and LinkedIn. Thank you to our sponsors and to the team at Evergreen! JobVite: Learn more at www.jobvite.com/catk Prepare yourself for Crazy and the King! Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAndTheKing Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crazyandtheking/ More on Torin and Julie: Julie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliesowashdisabilitysolutions Torin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis Cred: Production and Music by: Marcel "DjCellz" Boykin Image: Detroit Skyline

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It's hard to believe that this was Steve Norman's first ever podcast interview! The conversation flowed effortlessly and it was so interesting hearing how VIOOH's Head of Engineering went about hiring 13 Java Developers effortlessly and in partnership with the inspirational Liz Dowling. Stop what you're doing, grab pen & paper, and hear Katrina & Steve talk about:

lessons learned in his varied career & cultures

being hired remotely in a pandemic & the benefit of VIOOH adopting a hybrid model early

joining and managing a team remotely and the benefit of Connected Days

how you can hire 13 Java Developers even when there is such a shortage!

partnering with the People team for all the right reasons.

Giving feedback to every candidate swiftly... because developers talk!

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind.

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This week Allyn & Tracey spend some time unpacking the the Great Awakening that is occurring in the world of work. Is everyone getting it wrong or right? Is this about people not wanting to work because they are receiving government subsidies and they are afraid of COVID and child care concerns or is this really something bigger? What do we think is happening? What do you think is happening? Pull up a chair, pour a drink of your choice and let's discuss.

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One of the topics I get asked to cover frequently is the growth of the corporate executive recruiting function. So with that in mind, I've partnered with ESIX, The Executive Search Information Exchange, to bring you a series of three interviews exploring the key trends and issues in corporate executive recruiting.

In the previous two episodes, we looked at the evolution of corporate executive recruiting and what employers should be doing to improve the diversity of their executive teams. For the final interview in this short series, I'm talking to Eric Goldstein, Global Head of Executive Talent Attraction at SAP. We discuss how long term talent engagement is starting to play a more significant role in executive recruiting, the growth of data-driven decision making and what the future might look like.

▪   Topics covered in the interview:

▪   Hyper competitive talent markets

▪   Proactive executive talent engagement

▪   Engaging at scale and offboarding conversations quickly.

▪   Involving hiring managers effectively

▪   Unbiasing assessment

▪   Measuring quality of hire

▪   Onboarding, integration and accountability

▪   Lessons learned around improving diversity.

▪   What is the future of corporate executive recruiting

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Bennett Sung is one of my favourite HR tech marketers, who also happens to be a hiring manager. I have been lucky to know Bennett for around 8 years so you will also find him on page 71 of my book, The Robot-Proof Recruiter. 

Through many laughs, you'll hear us talk about:

fax machines and many other things Gen Z may not understand 😉

the zero moment of truth & gathering 'social' evidence

hiring marketers who are not vanilla 

Giving Bennett just 3 minutes to pitch Humanly (it is very cool)

Research the history of phrases before you use them 😮

Of course, his favourite interview question!

Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE 

WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

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Tracey and Allyn go deep in discussing the implications of the game-changing research Tracey conducted with @PandoLogic on the what real candidates are talking about.https://www.pandologic.com/employers/recruitment-industry/spilling-the-tea-on-the-candidate-experience/

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One of the topics I get asked to cover frequently is the growth of the corporate executive recruiting function. So with that in mind, I've partnered with ESIX, The Executive Search Information Exchange, to bring you a series of three interviews exploring the key trends and issues in corporate executive recruiting.

In episode 363, we talked about the evolution of corporate executive recruiting; in this episode, I want to explore diversity at the executive level and how employers can do better. My guest is Elizabeth Wallace, Head of Portfolio Talent at HG, and she has some valuable insights and advice to share.

In the interview, we discuss:

▪   How the pandemic is changing executive recruiting

▪   Opening up diverse talent pools with flexible working

▪   Diversity, Equity and Equality

▪   Assessment for development, not selection

▪   Social Mobility

▪   Challenging recruiting norms

▪   The value of talent to organisations and talent as a business function

▪   Transparent, human leadership

▪   Hopes for the next 12 to 18 months

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The corporate focus on Talent Acquisition is significant at the moment as companies across the world deal with the challenges of getting the right talent into their organisations. But what strategies do talent acquisition leaders need to successfully scale their recruiting operations at a time of such significant transformation?

My guest this week is someone who has been scaling recruiting teams in Silicon Valley for a long time. Richard Cho is Head of Recruiting at Robinhood, having previously been with Facebook, Dropbox, Machine Zone and The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. Robinhood recently made headlines in the industry by acquiring recruiting firm Binc; I am delighted that Richard agreed to come on the show to talk about Robinhood's strategy and share some hugely valuable insights into the way ahead for talent acquisition.

In the interview, we discuss:

▪   The recruiting challenges at Robinhood

▪   Building the business case

▪   Don't normalise the extraordinary, have the right foundation of resources in place.

▪   The three levels of talent acquisition technology

▪   Sophisticated data modelling to build capability models

▪   Building specialist interviewing capacity and gathering interview intelligence data

▪   Why diversity is a selection issue, not a pipeline issue

▪   The Binc acquisition and combining two recruiting cultures

▪   What will the future of talent acquisition look like

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Great to chat to Adam Gibson, global leader in Workforce Planning, People Analytics, & Orghanisational Design, and Author of Agile Workforce Planning, about the impact of the pandemic on workforce planning and more! 

the difference between workforce planning & agile workforce planning

the pain of, but love of, writing a book! 

where should workforce planning sit? 

supporting hiring managers who don't hire often

his favourite interview question

human skills vs. culture and wooing better

Adam's Blue Arrow posts

Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE 

WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

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When I saw Sukhvinder Pabial's blog about the freedom he found recruiting without an applicant's CV, I had to know more. Sukh runs his own company, Challenging Frontiers, but in our conversation you'll hear us talk about hiring for his new passion project. 

We also talk about:

the things you learn when running your own business

what prompted the idea to open a co-working space in Epping Forest 

giving yourself permission to play!

hiring a Community Manager via Nextdoor app without advertising!

playing with the flexibility of the role

work history vs. answering 3 questions to apply

supporting the needs of your people for the good of the business

Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE 

WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

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Welcome to the second insights interview with Sara Burgess, Senior L&D Professional, Business Psychologist, Executive Coach and my friend, all about managing disappointment. 

We talked and, to be honest, laughed a lot about:

embracing your inner nerd & being human

what does managing disappointment even mean?

understanding how our 'ideal person' may not be realistic

why disappointment is a feeling of sadness

checking-in, better communication & realistic timings

the ongoing partnership problem

Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE

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Chatting to Tracey Parson is always a joy and her new company, WORQDRIVE, supports this very podcast but she's also a hiring manager. So I couldn't wait to hear her take on how recruiters and hiring leaders can partner better. 

We covered a lot...

Launching a digital newspaper, recruitment banner ads in 1997, and career sites! 

Will we ever improve those job posts! And let's stop adding more names into the funnel.

Making it easy for people to stay in your company!

The importance of talking through the intake - no forms!!

Never be the hiring manager who says 'show me more CVs'!

Elegant pushback is a must.

Be prepared for a lot of laughs & insights! ✍🏻

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE (as in Tracey!)

WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

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After seeing an empathetic post from Zuzanna Santos, assisting the people coming in to interview with her, I asked Lisa Scales to connect us. You'll soon get why Lisa was super excited that I chat to Zuzanna. 

We chatted about her secret sauce when hiring for her team and:

recruiting her first team member just two years ago!

her growing team & helping people that suss out your social media profiles,

comparing interviews with first dates 🤨 

hiring manager homework, helping the process

getting creative with their showreel

If your recruitment could do with some secret-sauce, grab a cuppa & tune-in. 🎧

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE   

WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

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What do you do when hiring leaders are proving elusive to interview and you don't want to leave your listeners hanging? Start a series of insights to help you develop those partnerships, of course!

Welcome to the first interview in the series with my fabulous coach, Roderick Lambert, who has the unique perspective of having been a recruiter, HRBP, HRD, and now leadership & business coach.

We had a fantastic conversation centred on developing your power listening. He dropped tips galore & pulled me up on something I didn't know I was saying, which had potential to destroy an intake strategy session! 😳

Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧

Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE 

WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚