A discussion show that’s all about camera gear for photography and video. If you like to nerd out on camera specs, are always looking for a better cage setup, or want to understand video codecs better, you’ll probably enjoy this podcast.
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We go through the new photo and video features in the Apple iPhone 16 Pro, based on Lucas’ hands-on experience with his new phone. Spoiler alert: it involves Fuji film simulations and way too much discussion about buttons. Also, PolarPro released a bespoke container for holding film? It’s like they listen to this podcast.
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We discuss the different gear we use for holding and moving cameras, including tripods, gimbals, sliders, steadicams, and more. Also, several bits of cinema camera news and our thoughts on superzoom lenses.
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Davinci Resolve 19 is out of beta, and we’re excited about several of the new features. We also discuss several lenses, including the Sigma 28-105 f/2.8, rumors of a Tamron superzoom, and a legendary lens from 1961. Finally, Lucas had the chance to take photos at a race and we talk about his experience shooting fast cars with an X-T5.
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In our 100th episode, we cover the new PolarPro LightLeak “vibe” lenses and retrospect on our journey with cameras over the past two years. Thanks for being with us for these past 100 episodes of the show!
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We return to the topic of smartphone photography this week and discuss some of the current trends in phone cameras, especially with the release of the Google Pixel 9 Pro. Also, Lucas fills us in on the movie Twisters, which apparently has some camera gear-related drama.
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This week we take a deeper look at two new film cameras, the MiNT Rollei 35AF and Pentax 17. Also, the Lumix 26mm f/8 pancake lens is hiding a secret, and Lucas is researching bikes as if it’s a camera purchase.
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The Nikon Z6III has an issue with exposure in shadows while shooting in log, so we dig into it to try to understand what’s going on. Then, Lucas compares the D850 to modern mirrorless cameras and yearns for the days of the DSLR. Also, should we 3D print a medium-format film camera, and what’s with the vest that every Olympics photographer wears?
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In this meandering episode, we cover three unique lenses that came out in the past few months, and discuss an interesting article about which focal length most closely matches human vision. Also, is Fuji working on a fixed-lens GFX camera?
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This week, we cover the Canon R5 Mark II, which–spoiler alert–might be the flagship Canon camera for those of us who don’t shoot sports professionally. Also, Lucas’ film adventures continue.
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We take a close look at the recently-announced Canon R1 and try to determine if it’s Canon’s true flagship camera. Should every pro photographer buy an R1? Also, Lucas finally got some hands-on time with the Nikon Z6 III.
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We dig into the new Canon C400 cinema camera, but because this is the Camera Gear Podcast, this episode also includes a discussion on weird film stocks, a comparison of digital photo frame options, and a brief update on the Nikon Z6 III.
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We discuss a recent interview that may have revealed Fuji’s inventory strategy, the new 7.0 firmware for the X-H2S, and take a closer look at the Sigma 28-45 f/1.8 full-frame lens. Also, Lucas got a Synology, and it turns out the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.
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Nikon released the Z6 III, which has some pretty interesting features and trade-offs that we get into in this show. Also, where’s our Fuji firmware update?
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Pentax is releasing a new film camera in 2024? As you might imagine, this has our attention. Also, Fuji continues to expand the wildly popular Instax line.
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This week we discuss Panasonic’s other new camera, the GH7, and why we’re excited about this latest addition to the GH series. Maybe Micro 4/3 isn’t dead after all! We also cover a few of the interesting high-end video lenses that would pair well with the camera.
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The Lumix S9 is a rather unusual camera from Panasonic that we definitely have some thoughts on, so we go deep in this episode on its specs and details. Also, we compare the value of the Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K and the Pyxis, and retrospect on a few recent video and photo shoots.
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Surprising no one, we managed to spend almost an entire episode talking about the newly announced Fuji X-T50. Also, we have a few thoughts on the new 16-50mm f/2.8-4.8 kit lens.
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We’re back from vacation, with plenty of recent photography experiences to discuss–comparing the Fuji X-T3 and X-T5 image quality, our thoughts on various lenses for travel, and whether it’s worth it to take a film camera on vacation. Also, we take a look at the new iPad Pro models, as well as Final Cut Pro 2 for iPad.
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We cover some of the noteworthy announcements from the NAB 2024 show–there’s a lot of new camera gear to be excited about, and we’re here for it. Lucas also shares some of his research on working with Blackmagic Raw files in Resolve, and we try to decide how many new external SSDs we’ll need to buy if we take on a raw video workflow.
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All about Blackmagic’s new cameras–the PYXIS 6K box camera and URSA Cine 12K cinema camera. We cover the new announcements and give our thoughts about the feature set and who these cameras might be for. Also, Blackmagic released a new micro color panel that looks interesting, and Canon seems to be opening up the RF mount….sort of.
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We focus on Sony today and talk about their strengths, weaknesses, and what we’d like to see from them next, as well as our thoughts on their current camera and lens lineup. We made the Sonybros wait a while for this one, but we’re making up for it with our longest camera company deep dive yet.
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Reviews are out on the Sony Burano, and we dig into some of the surprising results. Also, we try to give a brief highlight on the Blackmagic NAB announcements, but end up talking about it for much longer than expected (and don’t worry, there’s more coming from us). Also, Sigma releases a new lens, and Lucas thinks Daniel should fully embrace a new photo backup workflow.
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We go deep on Nikon this week to discuss their strengths and weaknesses, as well as an overview of their current lineup and what we’re hoping to see next from them. Also, our experiences shooting the recent solar eclipse.
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This week, we dive into Fuji and cover their strengths and weaknesses, as well as what we’d like to see from them next. Also, Sony announced some upcoming new firmware updates, and the new Ricoh GR IIIx looks like an interesting point and shoot option.
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We take a close look at Panasonic’s camera business this week and discuss their strengths, weaknesses, and what might be coming next. Also, Logitech released a micro 4/3 webcam, and Lucas discovered another interesting point-and-shoot camera, this time from Leica.
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We continue our camera brand series with a deep dive on Canon, but also cover the Nikon Coolpix and similar point-and-shoot cameras, as well as some updates on the upcoming Mint Rollei 35AF, our experience using AI podcast editing tools, and more.
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More on the Fuji X100VI, including release hype, initial reviews, and our thoughts on who might be buying one. Also, we begin a new series of deep dives on camera manufacturers, starting with OM System.
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We discuss the implications of Nikon buying RED, and look at the new Leica SL3. Also, a new Sigma lens looks pretty interesting for astrophotography.
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We answer a listener question about which camera to choose for shooting uncropped 4K60 video, reflect on a recent event shoot, and talk about Zoom’s new 32-bit float handheld audio recorders.
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The long-awaited Fuji X100VI is finally here, along with a few other announcements from the Fujifilm X Summit that we’re excited about. Also, Lucas takes the next step in his film photography journey.
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We discuss the Kodak Super 8 film video camera, Fuji GFX100 II video test results, new film stocks, and more.
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We go deep on global camera sensors and talk about recent test results for the Sony A9iii, as well as the new global sensor variants of the RED V-Raptor. Also, Lucas covers the most expensive–and heaviest–legendary lens yet.
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Edelkrone’s crazy motorized tripod isn’t quite what it seems, and DJI has a new version of their wireless mic system. Also, Lucas is apparently really into flash photography now.
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We cover rumors about a new Hasselblad camera, an unusual Canon lens that had previously escaped our notice, and the strange upcoming Alice Camera. Also, Lucas considers getting into flash photography.
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We talk about some strange cameras, including an E-mount camcorder, artisan handcrafted box cameras, and the largest film camera ever made.
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We debate why point-and-shoot digital cameras are still a surprisingly large market in 2024, leading into a discussion of some upcoming rumors for the Fuji X100V successor, Leica SL3, and more. Also, one of the rarest legendary lenses yet, and Lucas gives us a list of his favorite 2023-released movies.
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Can you take photos in 3D? More importantly, can you view photos in 3D? What happened to 3D TVs? We take a look into the world of stereoscopic photography and videography in this episode. Also, Lucas’ film photography adventures continue, and we have another legendary lens.
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Camera straps, harnesses, and clips–all about the different ways to carry your camera(s). Also, we look at the custom camera created for filming shows for the Sphere in Las Vegas.
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We look back at the best cameras of 2023.
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We take a look back at each camera brand’s big releases in 2023 and discuss our thoughts on how each brand performed this year. Also, Lucas descends further into the world of point-and-shoot film cameras.
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Our top 5 favorite camera gear and tech purchases of 2023, as well as an update on wireless lav patent drama and a cinema camera made from a Raspberry Pi. Also, we look at some really old consumer digital cameras.
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Our thoughts on the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 and how it compares to other action cameras such as the GoPro 12 and Insta360 Ace Pro. Also, what’s with the trend of barebones cameras like the Camp Snap?
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Lucas ranks all of the Fuji lenses he’s owned (including one he may or may not have just added to the collection), and the Deity Theos wireless lav system faces patent issues.
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We discuss the Sony A9 III, the first mirrorless full-frame camera with a global shutter. Also, Canon’s new RF 24-105 f/2.8, and the Leica M11-P.
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Way, way too much discussion about camera backpacks and the new Nomatic Luma backpack. We also cover another legendary lens, and Lucas might buy a medium format film camera.
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Fuji’s cameras have an issue with “chroma smoothing”, and Sigma may release an L-mount camera? Also, Lucas ends up in the middle of some film stock related drama.
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We talk about Z CAM cameras, a new RF wide-angle zoom lens, and old Panasonic cinema cameras. Also, our review of The Creator, and Gold Peak Beverages enters the camera gear market.
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Our tests of the iPhone 15 Pro log profile, a Sony box camera intended for drones and industrial uses, AI features in the Pixel 8 camera, and more.
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The new retro-styled Nikon Z f camera, and Lucas’ experiences shooting with a film camera. Also, Sigma released a new wide-angle zoom, and Lucas has fully embraced Lightroom in his photo backup workflow.
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We discuss whether the Panasonic G9 II is a worthy reason to use micro 4/3 in 2023, as well as the new Atomos Ninja and Canon RF cinema primes. Also, Lucas deliberates on changing his photo backup workflow.
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The Sony Burano and Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K were recently announced, so we cover the features, excitement, and drama around these new cinema camera options. Also, Blackmagic released an iPhone app, and of course we have some follow-up on the Fuji GFX100 II.
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The new Fuji GFX 100 II, and the camera capabilities of the iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max. The September tech releases are in full swing, and we’re here for it.
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Review of the Zhiyun Molus x100 light, a new X-mount prime from Viltrox, and the Cooke SP3 cinema lenses. Also, Lucas wants to be a film bro.
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The new Sony A7C II and A7C R cameras, Fuji GFX video spec rumors, a softbox mini-review, and more.
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We talk about the new Rode Wireless Pro wireless lav system and discuss how it compares to similar products such as the DJI Mic and Deity Theos. Also, Lucas found the most hipster digital camera imaginable.
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We discuss the possibility of a new Fuji GFX medium-format camera, follow up on our DJI Mic saga, and talk about whether we’re still interested in new camera drones. Also, how close is too close when it comes to taking pictures of bears?
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In this episode, we briefly cover some new DJI products, and then discuss some issues we had with the DJI wireless lav mics on a recent shoot. As a bonus, we complain about softboxes.
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We talk about the bags, cases, and backpacks we use to transport camera gear to shoots. Also, some experiences from a recent outdoor shoot in the Texas sun.
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We answer a listener question about what camera to buy for low-light event shooting under $2000, and talk about another legendary lens. Also, we find Daniel a new video tripod.
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In this episode, we talk about the long-awaited Sony A6700. Also, more on global shutters, old Fuji point-and-shoot options, and the new special edition of the Fuji X100V.
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In this episode, we talk about how magnets make life better…or at least why PolarPro’s new magnetic filter system might be exciting. Also, Lucas discovers affordable cine lenses from Sirui.
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This week, we finally get to the long-awaited Nikoncast.
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This week Lucas complains about the new Insta360 Go 3.
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A new monopod from iFootage makes a splash, Lightroom added more AI features that improve detail in Fuji images, and Blackmagic might be releasing an L-mount camera? Also, Lucas buys a lens.
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This week Lucas complains about how Daniel made him talk about the Apple Vision Pro amongst other things.
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Ep 38 Event Shooting and Editing This week Lucas complains about doing work.
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Pre-Show * Movie corner + 65 + Jurassic Park + Jurassic Park Animatronic
Show * Event Shooting * Davinci Resolve * Fujifilm X-H2s * Fujifilm X-T3 * Lumix S5 II * Canon 5D IV * Sony A7 III * Ronin RSC2 * XF 50-140 f/2.8 * Tamron 11-20 f/2.8 * Canon 70-200 f/4 * Lucas' Canon 70-200 * Peak Design Micro Clutch + Kickstarter + Peta Pixel Link
Ep. 37 Fujicast! X-S20, X-App, Firmware 5.0 This week Lucas complains about Fujifilm and the X-S20.
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Pre-Show * perfect...no notes
Show * Fuji X Summit + https://youtu.be/kUl4kiU4YEU * ISO ON A DIAL! + X-H2s Firmware 5.00 * New X-App + IOS XAPP + ANDROID Xapp + App pulled from store * X-S20 + X-S20 + X-S20 Adorama link + 8mm f/3.5 + EOS R8 + EOS R7 + ZV-E10
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Feature X-S20 EOS-R7 ZV-E10 R8
Price (now) $1,300 $1,400 $700 $1,500
sensor 23.5 x 15.6 mm 22.3 x 14.8 mm 23.5 x 15.6 mm FF 35.9 x 23.9 mm
Open gate 6k 422 10bit no crop no no no
resolution 26.1mp 32.5 MP 24.2 MP 24.2MP
4k60 4k 422 10 bit1.18x 4k 422 10 bit no crop no 422 10bit, limited to 30 min
4k 24/30 422 10bit 422 10-bit 4:2:0 8-bit at 100Mb/s 422 10-bit
log flog2 Clog3 (no 2) Slog 2 and 3 Clog3
burst 8M 20 E 40E 11 fps 6M 40E
slomo 240fps/1080 120fps/1080 100fps/1080 180fps/1080
RAW PR and BM external
no no
HDMI micro micro micro micro
IBIS 7 stops 5 axis 5 axis no no
slots 1 UHS II 2 UHS II 1 UHS-I 1 UHS-II
jacks Headphone AND mic Headphone and mic Headphone and mic Headphone and mic
All-I codecs? yes no yes no
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Ep. 36 Komodo X VS. ZV-1
This week Lucas complains about the RED Komodo X
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Pre-Show
Longer Fuji Lens Options
XF 56mm f/1.2
Viltrox 75mm f/1.2
XF 50-140 f/2.8
Tamron 11-20 f/2.8
Show
Logic for iPad
FCP for iPad
Resolve 18.5 Beta 3
Sony ZV-1
Red Komodo X
Adorama link Red Komodo X
Red Komodo not x
DSCM3 Monitor
Komodo vs Komodo X No Film School
Peak Design Micro Clutch
Kickstarter
Peta Pixel Link
Fuji X Summit
https://youtu.be/kUl4kiU4YEU
X-S20
Firmware updates
8.5mm f/3.5
Ep. 35 NikonCast: The Nikon Z8
This week Lucas complains about the new Nikon Z8
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Pre-Show
Show
Lucas' Legendary Lens List Noctilux
Nikon Z8
Gerald Undone Review
Adorama Link
Powershot V10
Module 8 Tuner
Ep. 34 DJI Mavic 3 Pro and Inspire 3
This week Lucas complains about more NAB announcements.
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Pre-Show
Show
DJI Mavic Pro 3 and Pro 3 Cine
DJI inspire 3
More inspire 3 links
Lenses for the DJI DL mount
Insane Hong Kong Video
Laowa 24mm T14 2x Probe
New Nanomorphs 65 and 80mm T2.4 L mount
Axibo Robots
Freefly Ember S5K
DZO New 2x Lenses
Sony ILME-FR7
Resolve 18.5 features
Hollyland Venuss Live Stream
This week Lucas discusses his iPad photo workflow at length, complains about Davinci Resolve for iPad, and we talk about how Final Cut Pro for iPad is going to fix everything.
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Pre-Show
Show
Lucas' Lightroom workflow
Editing with Davinci Resolve for the iPad
Lucas' top secret garden youtube channel
Apple announces FCP and Logic for the iPad
Ferrite Studio -- the app Daniel used to edit a podcast on the iPad
Ep. 32: NAB Highlights and Fuji Problems
This week Lucas complains about Fujifilm again, and we talk about some exciting NAB news.
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Pre-Show
Show
Firmware Update
17-70 Issues
X-H2S
NAB News
FUJINON Duvo HZK25-1000mm F2.8-F5.0 PL Mount Cinema Box Lens
Tilta Nano ii
Smallrig FreeBlazer
Kondor Blue Pro Blade SSD Handle
Resolve 18.5
Deity PR2
DZO Anamorphics
Proteus Anamorphics
New Aputure Lights
Ep. 31: Working with F-Log2This week Lucas goes way too deep on some testing of F-Log2, LUTS, and color space transforms. Also, a pretty legendary lens.
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Preshow: Softbox research* 4545 Aputure Lighbox
Show* Legendary Lens: Canon FD 55mm ASPH f/1.2 + History of FD Lenses and the K-35 + FD 55 f/1.2 + K-35 PL Housing Rental
V-LOG specifications
Twitter Links
Ep. 30 The Best ZV-E1 Lenses, and Camera AI FeaturesThis week Lucas has a top 10 list for ZV-E1 lenses.
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Ep. 29 Fuji X-H2S Autofocus TalkThis week the gang discusses Lucas' dumb video that released basically a month ago as well as some exciting rumors and product releases.
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Preshow* Nikon ZFC new colors
Show* DP Review is no more?! + DP Review Close
More Zeiss Ultron
Panasonic S1H ii Rumors
Sensor stuff
New Cooke Lenses
CineD Cooke
Lucas' dumb video
Lucas X-H2S video
Benro Theta Tripod
Benro Polaris!
Twitter Links
Ep. 28 DJI Ronin 4D Updates and Editing a Music VideoThis week the gang discusses the crazy DJI Ronin 4D updates and how they're approaching editing a music video.
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Preshow* Everyone wants that Super35 * Raptor Reviews
Show* New Canon Lens + RF 16mm f/2.8 + Other links + Canon RF 14-35mm f/4 L IS USM: $1,499 + Canon RF 15-35mm f/2.8L IS USM: $1,999 + Canon RF 15-30mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM: $549 + Canon RF 16mm F2.8 STM: $279 + Canon RF 24mm f/1.8 Macro IS STM Lens $599
Potato Jet Vid (4D)
Twitter Links
Ep. 27 Sony ZV-E1 SpectacularThis week the gang dives into Sony's latest camera and a few other things.
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Preshow+ Twitter thread about the moon + Silicon Imaging's PR about Slumdog Millionaire
Show+ ZV-E1 - Original Leaks - Potato Jet Review - Sara Dietschy Review - Gerald Undone Review - Sony Website - Adorama Purchase Link
Lumenarch Website
Zhiyun Molus x100 and G60
Zhiyun Molus G60 product page
Triangle of Sadness (aka Diffusion)
Backup link to the chart (sorry this is a reddit link)
Portkeys PT6 Monitor Mini Review
Ep. 26: Sony Picture Profile Nonsense and Shooting a Music VideoThis week Lucas complains about 8-bit Sony and picture profiles like it's 2017.
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Ep. 25: Shooting an Event and New Aputure LightsThis week we discuss a new Legendary Lens, we toy with the concept of followup, we discuss the recent Aputure event, and we dive into our most recent event shoot.
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Ep. 24 Best Filmmaking Cameras of Spring 2023This week we make our own list of Best Filmmaking Cameras in the spirit of RTINGS.COM
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Ep. 23: Audio Gear PodcastThis week we get a little too deep on the DJI Mic updates and some of the Zoom audio gear.
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Ep. 22 Laowa Proteus Anamorphics and Sony A7C II RumorsThis week we discuss the new Laowa Proteus Anamorphics as well as some A7C II Rumors.
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Ep. 21 ND Filters and Fuji CodecsThis week we discuss Lucas' ND filter research, Fuji Codes and debut a new segment
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Ep. 20 Canon EOS R50 and R8This week we discuss the newly announced Canon R50 and R8
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Ep 19: New Macs and DJI RS3 MiniThis week we discuss the new Viltrox Cine Anamorphics, the Macbook Pros and the DJI RS3 Mini
Ep 18: Camera For Your Mom....or why Moms love Classic Chrome?
This week we discuss Lucas' deep dive into ACES and IDTs, The new X-H2s Firmware 3.0 and buying a camera for YOUR MOM
Pre-show: ACES
ACES IDTs in Resolve Forum post
F-LOG2 Data Sheet V1.0 from Fuji
Fujifilm F-LOG in resolve without an IDT (ACES Central Forum)
Arri documentation
What is an IDT?
X-H2s Firmware 3.0
Firmware update changelog
Manual updates detailing each feature
Cameras for your Mom
Canon EOS R10
M50 with Lens
Sony ZV-E10
Used a6000 ($
Ep 17: Panasonic S5 Mk. II: Betraying Fuji in my Heart This week we discuss the Lumix DC-S5 Mark II
Ep 16: 2023 Camera Rumors: Nikon...Magic? This week we discuss Lucas' adventures with Resolve, Daniel's XT30 and rumors for 2023
Ep 15: Uncomfortably CloseThis week we discuss the Canon R6 Mark II
Ep 14: I'm Basically Bruno MarsThis week we discuss using Lightroom and Switching to Davinci Resolve.
Ep 13: The Way of the TapeThis week we discuss our favorite gear of 2022.
Ep 12: The Way of the TapeThis week we discuss the DJI product line including the FPV Avata.
Ep 11: I Don't Chimp This week we discuss shooting photos with the X-H2S.
Ep 10: Cameras on the BlockchainThis week we discuss the new Fujifilm X-T5!
Ep 09: The Full, Full Frame
This week we discuss the New Sony A7RV and the Atomos AtomX
Ep 08: The Whole Conga Line
This week we discuss the new Go Pro Hero 11 Black and 11 Mini.
Ep 7: Longer The Lens, Closer To God
This week we discuss shooting the Big Bend Open Road Race.
Ep 06: Gateway Drug
This week we discuss laowa nanomorphic lenses and using the EOS R in 2022
Ep 5: Megapickle Bump
Rumor round up
Ep 04: Like a Scorpion
How we do audio, X-Trans vs Bayer sensors, and why we bought into Fuji.
Ep. 03 My Camera Should Be A Race Car This week we discuss some recent experience using the Ninja V, what the best top handles with record buttons are, and possible future of camera sensors.
Ninja V
Ninja V Website Link Top Handles
Small Rig Top Handle Kondor Blue remote trigger handle Camera Sensors
Two Layer Transistor Pixel sensors
Arri 35 BSI Sensors Stacked Sensors
Ep 02: APS-Season
The NEW Sony FX30 and all about our interview shoot this past week.
News about Canon shutting out Viltrox from making RF autofocus lenses, a discussion on the pros and cons of adapting lenses, and a debate about the Fuji X-H2 vs the X-H2S.