Episode SummaryThis week Jesse & Nat tackle Baroness’s entire discography.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links* Dr. Oz goes shopping for charcuterie * Jimmy Kimmel Pranks George Santos on Cameo, Trump Wants “Loyalists” Only & the Chanucorn Returns! * Remember when Pitchfork had the audacity to give “De-Loused in the Comatorium” a 4.9? * The Mars Volta: New Album, Reunion, and Vulnerability * Ryley Walker – Wikipedia * Baroness * Baroness - Wikipedia
PicksJesse: The Chats “Get This in Ya!!”
Nat: Touche Amore “Is Survived By”
(Recorded on sometime in April of 2024 lol)
Episode SummaryThis week Jesse & Nat do their second round of hot takes.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links* Lions’ historic collapse: Here’s how Detroit let a 17-point lead slip away in NFC Championship loss to 49ers * Lineworker’s Rodeo * Excel World Championship * America’s rural radio stations are vanishing – and taking the country’s soul with them
PicksJesse: “Snakes for the Divine” by High on Fire
Nat: “Kaleidoscope” by Siouxsie & the Banshees
(Recorded on sometime in February 2024 lol)
Episode SummaryThis week Nat & Jesse go over their favorite records of 2023!
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Side note from Jesse: I’m intentionally not putting links to these. Look, I don’t know where you listen to music. Spotify? Apple Music? Tidal? Are you like Nat and only do vinyl? I don’t know. But if you’re listening to this podcast I trust your ability to plop this into Google or DuckDuckGo or whatever and find the album. I believe in you.
Jesse’s favorites of the year1. Hot Mulligan — Why Would I Watch? 2. Jason Isabel & the 400 Unit — Weathervanes 3. Better Lovers — God Made Me an Animal 4. Zach Bryan – Zach Bryan 5. Aphex Twin — Blackbox Life Recorder 21f / In a Room7 F760 – EP 6. JPEGMAFIA & Danny Brown — Scaring the Hoes 7. Jenny Lewis — Joy’all 8. Tomb Mold — The Enduring Spirit 9. Ryuichi Sakamoto — 12 10. Jeff Rosenstock — Hellmode 11. Spaceships — Ruins
Nat’s favorites of the year1. Spotlights — Alchemy for the Dead 2. Slowdive – Everything is Alive 3. Widower – Alone as a God 4. Underdark – Managed Decline 5. Full of Hell and Nothing – When No Birds Sang 6. Agriculture – Agriculture 7. Fiddlehead – Death is Nothing to Us 8. Svalbard – The Weight of the Mask 9. Teenage Wrist – Still Love 10. Yves Tumor – Praise a Lord Who Chews But Which Does Not Consume (or Simply, Hot Between Worlds)
PicksJesse: “Down” by Fennel Flowers
Nat: “69” by A. R. Kane
(Recorded on sometime in January 2024 lol)
Episode SummaryThis week we deep dive into the discography of one of our favorite bands, Thursday.
Edited by Nat
Shownotes by Jesse
Show Links* Paczki Day * Casimir Pulaski Day – Wikipedia * Devil’s Night – Wikipedia * “Can I pet that dog?” – YouTube * Thursday * The music video for “Understanding in a Car Crash”
PicksJesse: “God Made Me An Animal” by Better Lovers
Nat: “PM226” by Whimz & “Victorialand” by Cocteau Twins
Episode SummaryThis week Nat & Jesse nepotism in the music industry!
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links* Behind the Backlash Against Bud Light * Zach Bryan * Nepotism in indie music industry leads to unequal footing * 11 Nepo-Baby Musicians Who Prove It Isn’t Just Hollywood That Has A Nepotism Problem * It Runs in the Family: Nepotism in the Music Industry * EDITORIAL: TikTok perpetuates nepotism in the music industry * Nepo babies: what are they and why is Gen Z only just discovering them? * Why Don’t Swedes Feed Their Guests? - Scandinavia Facts * Halloween Horror Nights at Universal Studios
PicksNat: “Dénouement” by Respire
Jesse: “Like Minds” by Gary Burton, Chick Corea, Pat Metheny, Roy Haynes, & Dave Holland
(Recorded on IDK)
Episode SummaryThis week Nat & Jesse DIY! And also how we saw The Cure and it was amazing.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links* The Cure 2023 tour * The Cure’s Robert Smith actually got Ticketmaster to refund fans those extra fees * Sunn amps * CBGB & OMFUG * CBGB & OMFUG – Wikipedia * Squeeze – Wikipedia * Television – Wikipedia * Bad Brain – Wikipedia * Green Day – Wikipedia * Melvins reveal why they fired Nirvana’s Kurt Cobain as their producer: ‘He was a mess’ * Black Jeopardy SNL skit – YouTube * Elon Musk Andrew Tate, Tucker Carlson support Russell Brand after sex assault claims * Jack Antonoff * Dream of Antonoffication | Pop Music’s Blandest Prophet
PicksNat: Alanis Morissette – Jagged Little Pill
Jesse: PJ Harvey – To Bring You My Love
(Recorded on July 10, 2023 lol)
Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse talk WWE, Vince McMahon’s new mustache, Trump’s first indictment (this was recorded in like late April or early May of 2023 I’m sorry we are behind!), and Nat’s new album!!! It’s so good! Go buy it!
Also, eventually we talk about what we’re calling “Pitchfork core”. If you don’t know what that is… you do. If you were listening to non-top 40 music between 2003 and 2015 you’ll be at home here.
P.S. Ian Cohen can catch these hands. Stop giving everything that even has a hint of emo a 6.0 or less!
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * WrestleMania 39 – Wikipedia * UFC’s Endeavor set to buy WrestleMania company WWE – WaPo * Vince McMahon has a mustache now and it’s terrifying – SI * Trump has been indicted twice now – Wikipedia * Apple Corps v Apple Computers – Wikipedia * Buy Nat’s new album!!! “Ruins” by Spaceships * The Mina Times Show ft. Lenny – ESPN * Spittin’ Chicklets – Barstool * Pitchfork dot com * The history of Pitchfork reviews section in 38 reviews * Pitchfork Music Festival * Pitchfork Gives Music 6.8 – The Onion * Pitchfork – Wikipedia * Pitchfork Reviews Rescored * Pitchfork’s “Sunday Review” of DC Talk’s “Jesus Freak” * Pitchfork-core defined * Anthony Fantano
Picks Nat: “Pool Kids” by Pool Kids
Jesse: “Scaring the Hoes” by Danny Brown & JPEG Mafia
(Recorded on… IDK)
Episode SummaryThis week Nat & Jesse talk about the band The Cure, specifically their entire discography.
Also, BUY NAT’S NEW ALBUM!!! I’m so proud of him, but don’t tell him I said that.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links* The Cure – Wikipedia * The Cure’s Discography – Wikipedia * Robert Smith is not as excited as you – YouTube * The Cure Acceptance Speech at the 2019 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony – YouTube * Trent Reznor Inducts The Cure | Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019 (Full Speech) – YouTube * disintegration is the best album ever – YouTube
PicksJust listen
Nat: “I Let It In & It Took Everything” by Loathe
Jesse: “Disintegration” by The Cure
(Recorded on… IDK)
Episode SummaryThis week Nat and Jesse talk about vinyl record collecting.
Also, BUY NAT’S NEW ALBUM!!! I’m so proud of him, but don’t tell him I said that.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links* Jeff Buckley performs “Lover, You Should’ve Come Over” live in Chicago – YouTube * Jesse’s record collection on Discogs * Nat’s record collection on Discogs * Nat’s band’s new single “Spillt” featuring Ryan from the band Holy Fawn * Jangle pop – Wikipedia * RIP Jeff Beck – Wikipedia * The forest moon of Endor – Wikipedia * Michael Clayton – Wikipedia * Jesse’s Sonos setup * Very Detailed Turntable Setup for Beginners – YouTube * Audiophile Label Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab Faces Class-Action Lawsuit Over ‘Fraudulent’ Mastering Process Statements * Guns N’ Roses – “Appetite for Destruction” – Wikipedia
PicksNat: “Disintegration” by The Cure
Jesse: Disc one of “The River” by Bruce Springsteen
(Recorded on Thursday, February 23, 2022)
Episode SummaryNat & Jesse (finally) do a 2022 year-end list! A month late! But that is at least more respectable than putting out your year-end list in early December!
Edited by Nat
Shownotes by Jesse
Show LinksNat’s Year End ListNat actually blogged about this on his very good personal blog. I recommend reading it.
Jesse’s Year End List1. Spoon — Lucifer on the Sofa 2. Wilco — Cruel Country 3. Holy Fawnn — Dimensional Bleed 4. Conjurer — Pathos 5. Pusha T — It’s Almost Dry 6. Freddie Gibbs — $oul $old $eparately 7. The Smile — A Light for Attracting Attention 8. Brutus — Unison Life 9. Chat Pile — God’s Country 10. Pianos Become the Teeth — Drift
Episode SummaryThis week Nat and Jesse dive into music urban legends and how they some how spread even without the help of social media.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links Survivorship bias – Wikipedia * About lead-based paint * “Welcome to My House” by Nu Breed & Jesse Howard – YouTube * Paul is dead – Wikipedia * Somebody Asked MARILYN MANSON If He Actually Had His Ribs Removed To Suck His Own Dick * Was shock rocker Marilyn Manson Kevin’s geeky sidekick on TV’s ‘The Wonder Years’? * Did the Beatles really smoke marijuana in Buckingham Palace? * Dark Side of the Rainbow – Wikipedia * Backmasking & Fundamentalist Christian groups – Wikipedia * WHY THE ‘TUPAC LIVES’ CONSPIRACY REFUSES TO DIE * Elvis sightings – Wikipedia * Meet Joe Black* intro death scene – YouTube * Ozzy Osbourne Bit the Head Off a Live Bat 40 Years Ago Today * Alice Cooper, Golf Monster: A Rock ‘n’ Roller’s Life and 12 Steps to Becoming a Golf Addict * Weezer – Rolling Stone article - June 20, 2002
PicksNat: “Song of Salvation” by Dream Unending
Jesse: “Live at the Lexington” by Owen
(Recorded on Tuesday, November 11, 2022)
Episode Summary *😂 So Nat lost his audio so this is the Zoom audio backup, hence me doing a
countdown at the top.*
This week we have our second guest ever, Mike S! Mike has a really rad history
and relationship with music, specifically jazz & punk and we dive in and discuss
both thoroughly this week. Also, our shownotes have a character limit so I
favored linking less-known stuff. We mention probably over 100+ bands this
episode. So if I wasn’t able to link it here… pop a Goog.
Edited by Nat
Shownotes by Jesse
Show Links * Normcore – Wikipedia * The Most Miserable City in America – Gary, Indiana – YouTube * Charles Mingus – Wikipedia * Peter Brötzmann – Wikipedia * Minutemen – Wikipedia * Sum 41 – “Fat Lip” – YouTube * Eve6 Twitter * Steve Albini – Wikipedia * Adam Levine’s DMs fiasco * Mike ran a jazz program on WNUR * Animal Collective – Wikipedia * Xiu Xiu – Wikipedia * Spyro Gyra – Wikipedia * Pharoah Sanders – Wikipedia * Thelonious Monk – Wikipedia * Wes Montgomery – Wikipedia * Duke Ellington – Wikipedia * Captain Beefheart – Wikipedia * Judas Priest gets into the Rock n’ Roll hall of fame * Fear on SNL – Wikipedia * Pitchfork’s review of DC Talk’s “Jesus Freak” * post-punk dance party playlist * The Slits – Wikipedia * Stiff Little Fingers – Wikipedia * Public Image Ltd – Wikipedia * The Orchard Keepers – Bandcamp * Hate5Six
Picks Jesse: “When the Wind Forgets Your name” by Built to Spill
Nat: “Antichrist Complex” by Joe Baughman + The Righteous Few
Mike: “Raw Steak Black Coffee” by Free Refills
Episode Summary We’re back! This week we catch up and talk about dad rock!
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Dad Rock playlist – Spotify * A Brief History of Dad Rock – YouTube * I Introduced the Term ‘Dad-Rock’ to the World. I Have Regrets. – Esquire * 40 Bands That Define “Dad Rock” – Spin * We Interviewed a Ton of Dads About Dad Rock – Vice * Harry Chapin – Spotify * Jacob Givens is a must follow on Instagram * Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation * Brutus “War” (Live at Rain City
Picks Nat: “Unison Life” by Brutus
Jesse: “Midwestern Farmer’s Daughter” by Margo Price
(Recorded on Tuesday, October 25, 2022)
Episode Summary This week we talk about things we got wrong regarding music.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Torches Together: A Tribute to mewithoutYou * “In a Sweater Poorly Knit” (mewithoutYou cover) – The Foxes in the Vineyard & the Electric St. Lucy – YouTube * A Year of Vinyl – Nat’s music review blog * Ashley Madison – Wikipedia * “How to do Nothing” by Jenny Odell * Infamous Pitchfork review of “The Fragile” by Nine Inch Nails (It’s really bad) * Michigan Fest 2002. I was there man…
Picks Nat: The Rehearsal by Nathan Fielder
Jesse: “Lost in the Dream” by The War on Drugs
(Recorded on Thursday, August 8, 2022)
Episode Summary This week Jesse tries to get into Thrice and disappoints Nat.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Jim Brewer’s terrible 2022 stand-up special – YouTube * A Goofy Movie – Wikipedia * Dane Cook – Wikipedia * Paxlovid rebound * Rafi’s “Baby Beluga” – Wikipedia * The Bear TV show * Thrice – Wikipedia * The Thrice playlist Nat made for Jesse – Spotify * Brand New – Wikipedia * Hillsong United – Wikipedia
Picks Nat: “Omit” by Grivo
Jesse: “Remission” by Mastodon
(Recorded on Weekday, July 14, 2022)
This week Nat & Jesse give their musical hot takes! If you disagree with us at any way please email Nat about it.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Big Tymers – Still Fly – YT * Jesse’s obnoxious 2022 Warrior’s Championship Hat * Billy Joel’s “Movin Out” but it repeats heart attack 124 times – YT * Metallica Earns Its Top Billing of the Big Four * We Asked These 5 Slayer Fans When Exactly It All Went Wrong for Them – The Hard Times * Opinion: Fuckin’ Slayer – The Hard Times * Metalhead Running out of Body Parts to Carve Slayer Into – The Hard Times * Anthrax & Public Enemy - Bring The Noise – YT * Public Enemy: The Forgotten Innovators Of Post-Hardcore * Katy Perry – Teenage Dream – Wikipedia * The Antlers – Wikipedia * Goo Goo Dolls – Wikipedia * A “human video” to “Iris” by Goo Goo Dolls – YT * Black Sabbath – Wikipedia * Dio – Wikipedia * Daniel Johnston – Wikipedia * KISS – Wikipedia * Detroit Rock City – Wikipedia * KISS: Does It Stand for ‘Knights in Satan’s Service’? – Snopes * Insane Clown Posse Admit To Being Evangelical Christians, Don’t Want To Know How Fucking Magnets Work * Javelins * Fawnn * Thunderbirds Are Now! – Wikipedia * Grizzly Bear – Veckatimest – Wikipedia * Creed – Wikipedia * Ron Kenoly – Ancient of Days (Live) – YT
Picks Nat: “Radiant Bloom” by Astronoid
Jesse: “A Diabolic Thirst” by Spectral Wound
(Recorded on Tuesday, July 5, 2022)
Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse dive into the “garage rock revival” of the early 2000s.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Meet Me In Bathroom – Wikipedia * What is the joke in ‘Sidney Applebaum’ on SNL? * Post-punk revival – Wikipedia * The Strokes “Is This It” Pitchfork review * The White Stripes - Fell In Love With A Girl – YouTube * KoRn - Got The Life – YouTube * Limp Bizkit – Faith – YouTube * Linkin Park – One Step Closer – YouTube * The Hives – Hate To Say I Told You So – YouTube * The Vines – Get Free – YouTube * Post-grunge – Wikipedia * Top 10 Garage Rock Revival Bands: Where Are They Now? * Yeah Yeah Yeahs – Maps – YouTube * The Killers – Mr. Brightside – YouTube * Almost Famous – Wikipedia * Franz Ferdinand – Take Me Out – YouTube * Kaiser Chiefs – Ruby – YouTube * The Bravery - An Honest Mistake – YouTube * Interpol – Obstacle 1 – YouTube * Bloc Party – Banquet – YouTube * Vampire Weekend – A-Punk – YouTube * Arcade Fire – Rebellion (Lies) – YouTube * The Weird Gear of Wes Borland * The Kills – No Wow – YouTube * Arctic Monkeys – I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor – YouTube * The Futureheads – First Day – YouTube * TV on the Radio – Wolf Like Me – YouTube * Liam Gallagher vs. Noel Gallagher | Celebrity Deathmatch – YouTube * Ryan Adams – New York New York – YouTube * LCD Soundsystem – Losing My Edge – YouTube * At the Drive-In – “One-Armed Scissors” LIVE on The Late Show on 9/12/2001 – YouTube * The worst cover of all time – YouTube * Conan O’Brien Can’t Stop – Wikipedia
Picks Nat: “Heavy Pendulum” by Cave In
Jesse: “Crawler” by IDLES
(Recorded on Weekday, Month 21, 2022)
Episode Summary This week we are live! Sort of. We aren’t live for you, but we were in each other’s presence and recorded live with Rosemary in the Galaxy Brain studios in SF! And we talk about the 1967 Summer of Love! Sort of…
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Galaxy Brain studios * Brain Tape * “Friends with Burger-fits” – Bob’s Burgers – Wikipedia * Ron Swanson’s Best Friend — Parks & Rec — YouTube * Muir Woods * THE EWOKS WERE NAMED AFTER THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE MIWOK * The Summer of Love – Wikipedia * Long, hot summer of 1967 – Wikipedia * Dot-com bubble – Wikipedia * Why George Harrison asked Eric Clapton to perform on ‘While My Guitar Gently Weeps’ * The mayor of SF in 1967; John F. Shelley – Wikipedia * The CIA’s Secret Quest For Mind Control: Torture, LSD And A ‘Poisoner In Chief’ * Expand Your Mind — How to Grow Psychedelic Mushrooms Using Uncle Ben’s Rice * “I’m shocked! Shocked! To find that gambling is going on in here!” – Casablanca – YouTube * 27 Club – Wikipedia * “Every day, somebody’s born who’s never seen The Flintstones” – or, why telling it once isn’t enough * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi – Wikipedia * “Forever Changes” by Love – Wikipedia * State of Jefferson – Wikipedia * This Woman Who Was Almost Part of the OG Destiny’s Child Lineup Just Auditioned on The Voice * Jon Brion – Wikipedia * Hellraiser Rights Return to Clive Barker in 2021
Picks Rosemary: “The Brass Tax” by Downward
Nat: “Odessey and Oracle” by The Zombies
Jesse: “Cruel Country” by Wilco
(Recorded on Tuesday, May 31, 2022)
Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse put on their Stetsons and discuss modern country music & their path to loving (some) modern country.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Make South Bend owners reinvest in River Park with plans to purchase building * Don Corneo * “I hate the fin’ Eagles man” — The Big Lebowski * “Come On Over” by Shania Twain – Wikipedia * Alan Jackson - Chattahoochee – YouTube * “Sold (The Grundy County Auction Incident)” – John Michael Montgomery – YouTube * Big & Rich * Cowboy Troy – Wikipedia * Ryan Adams – Wikipedia * Jason Isbell * The Origins of Country Music * Jason Isbell Locates His Musical Compass On ‘Southeastern’ * Bright Eyes: Tiny Desk (Home) Concert – YouTube * Atkinson’s “Intro to Country” Playist – Spotify * Jesse performs “The Righteous Path” by Drive-By Truckers on ep. 35 of “It Might Get Personal” – YouTube * “Southern Girl” by Jesse’s old band The Jacets – Spotify * KIDZ BOP Kids – Disturbia – YouTube * Nat mashed-up “Jesus Walks” & “Loser” * Rick Ross Recounts Correctional Officer Experience, Says He Only Beefs With Rappers ‘With More Money Than Me’ * Chris Stapleton’s Tiny Desk Concert – YouTube * Jenny Lewis * Kacey Musgraves and Spotify Took Fans Back in Time With a ’90s-Inspired Pre-Album Event Experience * Trace Adkins - Honky Tonk Badonkadonk – YouTube * Morgan Wallen Party - SNL – YouTube * Opinion: Fin’ Slayer!
Picks Jesse: “Reckless” by Morgan Wade
Nat: “Dreams Drenched in Static” by Cremation Lily
(Recorded on Weekday, May 03, 2022)
Episode Summary This week Jesse & Nat discuss what makes a good Bond theme.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Elden Ring – Wikipedia * The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild – Wikipedia * The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Wikipedia * Horizon Zero Dawn – Wikipedia * Horizon Forbidden West – Wikipedia * Everything Everywhere All at Once – Wikipedia * In the Mood for Love – Wikipedia * James Bond music – Wikipedia * James Bond Movie Theme Songs, Ranked Worst to Best * Pet Sounds was originally meant to be a James Bond theme * Fifty Years Later, Johnny Cash’s Rejected Theme Song For James Bond’s “Thunderball” Is Still Pretty Great * Radiohead’s “Spectre” * Pulp’s Awesome Rejected James Bond theme song
Picks Nat: “Twin Dream” by Glassing
Jesse: “Mier” by Kvelertak
(Recorded on Weekday, April 19, 2022)
Episode Summary This week we talk extensively about mewithoutYou – Nat’s favorite band – in depth.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * “Diatonic Major And Minor Scales” by Andres Segovia * Go listen to Nat’s band SPACESHIPS and buy their stuff! * mewithoutYou – Wikipedia * mewithoutYou Discography – Wikipedia * “All the Clever Words on Pages: A Portrait of My Friendship with Aaron Weiss of mewithoutYou” by Paul Matthew Harrison * The Psalty website is something else… * Shane Claiborne – Wikipedia * Star Wars described by a non-fan from In the Thick of It
A collection of mewithoutYou interviews from over the years in order of publication * My name’s Aaron Weiss, I’m an aquarius. I’m 25 years old and I live with my parents. Published: early October 2004 * Jesus Freak Hideout interview with mewithoutYou Published: June 6, 2009 * An Interview with MewithoutYou: More Stories To Tell Published: January 7, 2015 * mewithoutYou Frontman’s Sexuality Is an Open Book Published: June 24, 2015 * Things got a bit deep when we interviewed mewithoutYou Published: August 5, 2015 * Q&A: mewithoutYou grew, faced turmoil, and made their best album in years Published: October 1, 2018 * mewithoutYou: “I’d like to think that it’s not too late to start again” Cult faves mewithoutYou are getting on for twenty years in the game, and they’re still one of the most interesting bands around. Published: October 24, 2018 * TIPPING THE SWEAR JAR: HOW MEWITHOUTYOU USED THE F-BOMB TO SAY MORE THAN THE F-WORD Published: January 16, 2020 * Aaron Weiss of mewithoutYou Talks Returning to The Stage & the Pros & Cons of Long Distance Publish: August 9, 2021
Picks Nat: “Don’t Think About Death” by Chalk Hands
Jesse: “What’s Going On” by Marvin Gaye
(Recorded on Thursday, March 24, 2021)
Episode Summary This week we discuss guilty pleasures and basically how we don’t have any. (This is less about actual guilty pleasures and more about loving your past self.)
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * New Orleans Vacation – SNL – YouTube * The Used – Wikipedia * The number 88 in white nationalism and supremacy – Wikipedia * ’Guilty’ Pleasures? No Such Thing * The Eraser by Thom Yorke – Wikipedia * The Fall by Gorillaz – Wikipedia * Lou Reed – Wikipedia * For Damon Albarn, modern life is still pretty much rubbish * ‘It’s F-cked Up to Try and Discredit My Writing’: Taylor Swift Fires Back at Blur’s Damon Albarn * Two Alleged Victims of Brand New’s Jesse Lacey Detail Years of Sexual Exploitation of Minors * Louder Than Life * Chester Bennington – Wikipedia * Michael Tate is the lead singer of The Newsboys * Orchid – Wikipedia * “War All the Time” by Thursday – YouTube * Piebald – Wikipedia * The Ataris – Wikipedia * Audioslave’s self-titled record – Wikipedia * “I Want You” by Savage Garden * WHY GROWN-ASS MEN GET SO EMOTIONAL ABOUT CARLY RAE JEPSEN * Pitchfork Reviews: Rescored * Pitchfork originally gave Clarity by Jimmy Eat World a scathing review and a score of 3.5. * Weezer – SNL * “Keep Fishin’” by Weezer * SARSfest – Wikipedia
Picks Jesse: “Voodoo” by D’Angelo
Nat: “Actor” by St. Vincent
(Recorded on Thursday, March 10, 2022)
Episode Summary
This week Nat & Jesse discuss ethical music consumption. What is our responsibility as listeners and fans? Is it on us to right the wrongs of the music industry and streaming services paying artists pennies?
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Cody Rhodes – Wikipedia * “The Boys in the Bar” episode of Cheers – Wikipedia * Last Man Standing – Wikipedia * The Good Place – Wikipedia * Love Is Blind – Wikipedia * Varg Vikernes – Wikipedia * What.CD – Wikipedia * How much does Spotify pay per stream? Streaming payouts comparison [2021] * How much did vinyl music sales grow in 2021? (Hint: a lot) * The Devil Still Unable to Get Out of Contract With Victory Records * A DAY TO REMEMBER Awarded $4 Million In Contract Dispute With Victory Records * RedGorilla Music Festival – Wikipedia * The Full(est Possible) Story of the Four Seasons Total Landscaping Press Conference * Grandma Moses – Wikipedia * Spotify Bet Big on Joe Rogan. It Got More Than It Counted On. * Forever 21 Sold Bootleg Minor Threat Shirts * Fugazi - Waiting Room - Cleveland School of Rock – YouTube * Apple’s 30% Fee, an Industry Standard, Is Showing Cracks * Jainism – Wikipedia
Picks Jesse: “Lucifer on the Sofa” by Spoon
Nat: “Possessions” by Blushing
(Recorded on Tuesday, March 8, 2022)
Episode Summary This week Jesse made a rap playlist for Nat and made Nat listen to radically popular rap songs from the past decade that he’s never heard.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * “non-woke rap 4 nat” Spotify playlist Jesse made for Nat * Zack Snyder Steps Down From ‘Justice League’ to Deal With Family Tragedy * Furnace Fest * Drummer Implicates Dave Grohl in Shelving of Sunny Day Real Estate Album * Mos Def to change his name in 2012 * What Happened at Travis Scott’s Astroworld Concert? * The Grey Album – Wikipedia * Datpiff – The Authority on Free Mixtapes * Nat’s mashup of Fugazi’s “Waiting Room” & Jay-Z’s “Lucifer” * Missy Elliott – “The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)” – YouTube * WHY KANYE’S LINKS TO TELEVANGELIST JOEL OSTEEN COULD HAVE SINISTER UNDERTONES * Cowboy Troy – Wikipedia * MTV Crib’s episode w/ Redman – YouTube * Redman: MTV Tried to Get Me to Rent a House for “Cribs” – YouTube * I Introduced the Term ‘Dad-Rock’ to the World. I Have Regrets.
Picks Nat: Eugenius – “Midlife” – Spotify
Jesse: Amelie Lens vinyl only home session – YouTube
(Recorded on Weekday, February 22, 2022)
Episode Summary This week we do our second deep dive into a singular band’s discography (sort of… we get hand-wavey for the latter albums), The Smashing Pumpkins!
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Eric Clapton’s “This Has Gotta Stop” – YouTube * Hear an Eyewitness Account of Eric Clapton’s ‘Full-Tilt Racist’ 1976 Onstage Rant * Vaccine Skeptic Eric Clapton Insists He Just Loves ‘Freedom of Choice’ * Hannibal Buress: how a comedian reignited the Bill Cosby allegations * The Smashing Pumpkins – Wikipedia * Zwan – Wikipedia * The Smashing Pumpkins on “The Simpsons” - S7E24 ‘Homerpalooza’ * Billy Corgan Confirms WWE Turned Down Buying the NWA Before He Purchased It * The Big Muff – Wikipedia * Dinosaur Jr. Leader Says He Nearly Joined Nirvana Twice * Reverb * SMASHING PUMPKINS TO HOLD OPEN AUDITIONS FOR NEW DRUMMER * PAWS Chicago 20th Anniversary Magazine Smashing Pumpkins Frontman William Corgan & Chloe Mendel Advocacy, Family and Touring With a Toddler * Mötley Crüe’s Tommy Lee says it was a ‘big challenge’ working with Smashing Pumpkins
Picks Nat: “Gypsum” by Gypsum
Jesse: “Pretty Girls Like Trap Music” by 2 Chainz
(Recorded on Wednesday, February 2, 2022)
Episode Summary This week Nat and I get into our approach to songwriting.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * Internet of Shit Twitter account * The Facebook Outage – A Postmortem * When We Were Young Festival * Your Scene Sucks * Every Time I Die is having an ugly break-up * Pedro the Lion surprise releases “Havasu” * Aqua Teen Hunger Force – Wikipedia * If you haven’t listened to Nat’s band Spaceships yet you really should * “The Ship Is Sinking” by Lune * Muse – Wikipedia * Jesse’s old band the Jacets * Jason Isbell * The secret rhythm behind Radiohead’s “Videotape” – YouTube
Picks Nat: Life On Venus – “Odes to the Void” – Spotify
Jesse: Floating Points & Pharoah Sanders – “Promises” – Spotify
(Recorded on Sunday, January 20, 2022)
Episode Summary This week we dive into why people stop listening to new & current music as they get older and how we haven’t (totally) fallen victim to this. Jesse’s take is predictably viewed through the lens of Marxism. Nat’s is much more gracious and concerned with aging.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * The Big Podcast w/ Shaq * Barkley Shut Up and Jam 2 – Wikipedia * The Undertaker on Hot Ones – YouTube * Sting is 62yo & still wrestling – Wikipedia * The Cure – Wikipedia * Kate Bush – Wikipedia * Nick Cave – Wikipedia * Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band – “Night Movies” – YouTube * Flyleaf – Wikipedia * Tony Robbins – Wikipedia * I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson a Comedy Show * Why I Still Love My Alkaline Trio Tattoo * “You can’t bring Pepsi” – YouTube * “Understanding In A Car Crash” by Thursday – YouTube * My Bloody Valentine’s shows were so loud they feared destroying venues: “Chunks were falling out of the ceiling” * “()” by Sigur Ros – Wikipedia * Jupiter Ascending – How Did This Get Made? * Anthony Fantano AKA The Needle Drop – YouTube * TwinsthenewTrend react to “In the Air Tonight” – YouTube * Rage Against the Machine (first time reaction)
Picks Nat: HarborLights – “Isolation Ritual”
Jesse: The Strokes – “The New Abnormal”
(Recorded on Sunday, January 12, 2022)
Episode Summary
Jesse's Tiger Electronic games his parents, for some reason, still have.
This week we catch up after the holidays and discuss our families’ influence on our own musical tastes.
Edited by Nat
Show notes by Jesse
Show Links * GEICO Cavemen TV show – Wikipedia * Why ‘Jake from State Farm’ Had to be Re-Cast * Pope Francis claims pets replacing children in many families is ‘selfish.’ That’s rich. * The Complete History and List of Tiger Electronics Handheld Games * Clydesdale horse – Wikipedia * Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot – Wikipedia * Harry Chapin – Wikipedia * Hanson – Wikipedia * Petra – Wikipedia * DC Talk – Wikipedia * KJ–52 – Wikipedia * “Will Smith don’t gotta cuss in his raps…” * The Batman Forever Soundtrack – Wikipedia * Phil Keaggy – Wikipedia * Primus – Wikipedia * Stevie Ray Vaughan – Wikipedia * Stevie breaks a string & his guitar tech swaps his guitar flawlessly – YouTube (3:03) * 8-track tape – Wikipedia * Ben Folds – Wikipedia * Mayor Pete & Ben Folds jam together – YouTube * ‘Pete’s wine cave’: Why Buttigieg’s rivals are slamming his Napa fundraiser * Kyuss – Wikipedia * Josh Homme – Wikipedia
Picks Nat: SOM – “The Shape of Everything” – Spotify
Jesse: Silk Sonic – “An Evening with Silk Sonic” – Spotify
(Recorded on Sunday, January 5, 2022)
Episode Summary Nat & Jesse swing the pendulum back from pop music to the opposite side of the spectrum. We talk hard-to-listen-to / avant garde music. “Challenging” music, if you will.
“I never worked out what it was that possessed me when music possessed other than I always wanted it.”
“Furthermore it made me someone of course. Thanks to music I became someone who was the forefront. Someone you had to admire. Not as much as you had to admire those who made the music admittedly. But as a listener I was in the vanguard.”
From “My Struggle” by Karl Ove Knausgard
Show Links * “Drunken Hot Girls” by Kanye West ft. Yasiin Bey sampling Can – YouTube * “Less Than You Think” by Wilco – YouTube * A Jesus Piece: Looking Back at Christianity’s Role in Metalcore * Converge – “Jane Doe” – Wikipedia * Cool Hand Luke – “I Fought Against Myself” – Spotify * Anathallo – Wikipedia * Tangerine Dream – Wikipedia * King Crimson – Wikipedia * Braid – Wikipedia * Hey Mercedes – Wikipedia * ARTHUR: Binky’s Musical Daydream – YouTube * Daughters – “Canada Songs” – Wikipedia * Interpunk * Orchid – Wikipedia * WHAT. THE. HELL. WHO IS ARCADE FIRE????? * Charles Mingus – “Blues & Roots” – Wikipedia * Archie Shepp – “Kwanza” – Wikipedia * Joe McPhee – “Nation Time” – Wikipedia * Grizzly Bear – “Veckatimest” – Wikipedia * Deerhunter – “Cryptograms” – Wikipedia * Aphex Twin – “Film” – YouTube * Merzbow – Wikipedia * Rafael Toral – “Wave Field” – Bandcamp * Captain Beefheart – “Trout Mask Replica” – Wikipedia * Danielson – Wikipedia * Ryuichi Sakamoto – Wikipedia
Nat’s weekly picks – School of Seven Bells – “SVIIB” – Wikipedia
Jesse’s weekly picks – Olivia Rodrigo – “Sour” – Wikipedia
Recorded on Sunday, November 28, 2021.
Episode Summary Nat & Jesse talk about pop music they like because we are stereotypically music nerds who don’t listen a lot of pop music.
Edited by Nat
Shownotes by Jesse
Show Links * Justin Timberlake on SNL – Immigrant Tale * Pharrell Williams – Wikipedia * The Black Eyed Peas – “Where is the Love?” – YouTube * Captain EO – Wikipedia You guys, Nat wasn’t hallucinating this. OMG. * Kelly Clarkson – “Since You’ve Been Gone” – YouTube * Drive Like Jehu – Wikipedia is so good, you guys. * Imogen Heap – “Hide & Seek” – YouTube * “mmmmmmmm whachusayyyyyyyyy”; Marissa shoots Trey on The O.C. – YouTube * Frou Frou – Wikipedia * Kraftwerk – Wikipedia * Detroit Techno – Wikipedia * Belleville Three – Wikipedia * Global Underground – Wikipedia * Katy Perry – “Teenage Dream” – Wikipedia * The dude from Reliant K dated Katy Perry – Wikipedia * Sonic Youth – “Daydream Nation” – Wikipedia * Sex Pistols were a boyband * Why Doesn’t Pitchfork Review Artists Like Taylor Swift (Unless They’re Covered by Ryan Adams)? * Mountain Goats “No Children” on TikTok * “Head Like a Hole” + “Call Me Maybe” mashup – YouTube (This is so good y’all) * Carly Rae Jepsen – “Emotion” – Wikipedia * Give Carly Rae Jepsen a sword * Why grown-ass men get so emotional about Carly Rae Jepsen * Tool “Stinkfist” + Taylor Swift “We are never getting back together” mashup – YouTube * Justin Bieber vs. Slipknot - “Psychosocial Baby” – YouTube * Joe Pera discovers The Who – YouTube
Nat’s weekly pick — Apparently the entire Wire discography – Wikipedia
Jesse’s weekly pick — Taylor Swift – “Red” – Wikipedia
Recorded on Sunday, November 11, 2021.
Episode Summary
The Atkinson’s Peanut’s Nativity set
Nat & Jesse discuss whether or not Christmas music is good actually and then dive into their list of year end favorites.
Edited by Nat
Shownotes by Jesse
Show Links * The Fox News Christmas tree fire set to some tunes * Keith Urban & Toby Keith are not the same person, apparently * Sufjan Stevens – “Silver & Gold” – Wikipedia * She & Him Christmas Collection – Spotify * Jesse’s least-favorite Christmas song, Paul McCartney’s “Wonderful Christmastime” – YouTube * What do She & Him want for Christmas? ‘Real instruments’ played by humans * Justin Bieber’s very lazy “cover” of “All I Want For Christmas Is You” – YouTube * Apparently there was a Muppets tv show in 2015!? – Wikipedia * Hamm & Bublé – SNL – YouTube * Bing Crosby (not Sinatra) doesn’t remember the reindeer’s names – YouTube * Fergie voiced Sally Brown on Peanuts * Fergie singing the national anthem * Draymond Green & Warriors Respond to Josh Duhamel (Fergie’s husband) For Fergie Comments With TROLL Anthem Remix * NPR, Pitchfork, Rolling Stones, & Paste Year End List
Jesse’s 2021 Picks * Crypta — Echoes of the Soul * Turnstile — Glow On * Taylor Swift — Red (Taylor’s Version) * Every Time I Die — Radial * Converge + Chelsea Wolfe — Bloodmoon: I * The War on Drugs — I Don’t Live Here Any More * Deafheaven — Infinite Granite * Kacey Musgraves — star-crossed * Olivia Rodrigo — Sour * Gorillaz — Song Machine, Season One: Strange Times
Nat’s 2021 Picks * Lantlôs - Wildhund * Deafheaven - Infinite Granite * Thrice - Horizons/East * Mogwai - As the Love Continues * Manchester Orchestra - The Million Masks of God * Gojira - Fortitude * Converge + Chelsea Wolfe — Bloodmoon: I * Bossk - Migration * Five Iron Frenzy - Until This All Shakes Apart * Slow Crush - Hush * Amenra - De Doorn * Zao - The Crimson Corridor * Big Brave - Vital * The Armed - Ultrapop * Shy Low - The Snake Behind the Sun
Recorded on Sunday, December 12, 20212.
Were the 90s the best decade for music or are we just old?
"Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes." — Henry David Thoreau, Walden
The quote Jesse thinks of when he remembers he asked for snowboarding gear for Christmas once and barely used it.
Show Links * Suicide of Kurt Cobain – Wikipedia * The Dirt: Confessions of the World's Most Notorious Rock Band by Mötley Crüe * Sunny Day Real Estate perform "Seven" on Jon Stewart – YouTube * Golden age hip hop – Wikipedia * "You Ask, We Answer: 'Parental Advisory' Labels — The Criteria And The History" * Anthony Fantano's review of "To Pimp A Butterfly" by Kendrick Lamar – YouTube * How Puff Daddy’s Bad Boy Empire helped shape contemporary hip-hop * Music video for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana – YouTube * Blur and Oasis’ big Britpop chart battle – the definitive story of what really happened * Liam Gallagher vs. Noel Gallagher | Celebrity Deathmatch – YouTube * Oasis ● 1996 ● MTV Unplugged ● Liam Heckling – YouTube * What Would Billy Joel Do? bit from Community – YouTube * "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" by Aerosmith – YouTube * "The Perfect Drug" by Nine Inch Nails – YouTube * "Scream" by Michael Jackson – YouTube * "Remember the Time" by Michael Jackson – YouTube * "Eat It" by "Weird Al" Yankovic – YouTube * "Smells Like Nirvana" by "Weird Al" Yankovic – YouTube * "Loser" by Beck – YouTube * "Devils Haircut" by Beck – YouTube * "I'm Afraid of Americans" by David Bowie – YouTube * The Story of "Teenage Dirtbag" by Wheatus – YouTube * Dee Snider vs Tipper Gore 1984 - Senate hearing PMRC (Parents Music Resource Center) – YouTube * Metallica: Some Kind of Monster – Wikipedia
Nat's weekly pick — Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures (33 1/3 Series) – Amazon
Jesse's weekly pick — Every Time I Die "Radical" – Spotify
(Episode recorded Sunday November 7, 2021)
Shownotes
Show Links * Mint * You Need a Budget * Breaking Bad RV Tours * Clarkson’s Farm — Wikipedia * Deftones — Wikipedia * Glassjaw — Wikipedia * Thrice — Wikipedia * Fuse TV still exists! * Pen & Pixel, who made the cover art for a lot of southern rap artists in the 90s — Wikipedia * The Best Pen & Pixel Rap Covers * Korn — Follow the Leader — Wikipedia * Limp Bizkit — Three Dollar Bill Y’all — Wikipedia * Eminem — Slim Shady LP — Wikipedia * Kid Rock — Bullgod — YouTube * Tool — Wikipedia — Wikipedia * onelinedrawing’s cover of “Be Quiet & Drive (Far Away)” — YouTube * XKCD — Ten Thousand * Coma-stricken Deftones’ star Chi Cheng dies with mom ‘singing songs he liked in his ear’ * Palms — Wikipedia * Isis — Wikipedia * “Back to School (Mini Maggot)” thrown on the front of “White Pony” — Wikipedia * Fugazi “Instrument” film — Wikipedia * Nat’s friend Joe’s project — Rhymer/Educator — Spotify
Nat’s weekly pick — Shabazz Palaces — “Black Up” — Full album stream on YouTube
Jesse’s weekly pick — Ted Leo + Pharmacists — “Hearts of Oak” — Wikipedia
(Episode recorded Sunday October 31, 2021)
Shownotes Show Links LiveJournal — Wikipedia — You had to be there.
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater — Wikipedia
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater Soundtrack — Spotify
The Blood Brothers — Wikipedia
Wilco — Wikipedia
Sunny Day Real Estate perform “Guitar and Video Games” — YouTube
“The Wild History Of Demo Discs, Shareware And Covertapes” — Kotaku
FuncoLand — Wikipedia — Jesse worked here in high school. It sucked.
PS One — Wikipedia
2001 was a really good year for video games — Wikipedia
Tim Roger’s review of DOOM is incredible and well worth your time — YouTube
Stone Temple Pilots — Wikipedia
Limp Bizkit “Faith” music video — YouTube
Orgy Blue “Monday” music video — YouTube
Powerman 5000’s lead singer Spider One is Rob Zombie’s little brother — Wikipedia
Static X — Wikipedia
The Space Jam soundtrack was incredible — Wikipedia
The Batman Forever soundtrack is so much better than it has any right to be — Wikipedia
Trent Reznor did the soundtrack for Quake — Wikipedia
Tetris theme techno remix — YouTube
Final Fantasy VIII “Balamb Garden” theme — YouTube — The most peaceful instrumental ever.
Aphex Twin — Wikipedia
Michael Jackson may or may not have done the soundtrack for Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Mega Man 3’s theme for the Shadow Man stage goes so hard and is maybe the first dubstep song???? — YouTube
NFL Blitz — Wikipedia
Green Day’s “Dookie” — Wikipedia
Travis Barker plays drums in Goldfinger sometimes — Wikipedia
Nat’s weekly pick — The Melvins’ “Stoner Witch” — Spotify
Jesse’s weekly pick — Boris + Merzbow’s “2R0I2P0” — Spotify
Jesse & Nat share their experiences at Riot Fest & Furnace Fest respectively
1/2 way through the episode Jesse’s mic decided to go terrible. Super apologize for that. Shouldn’t happen moving forward.
Show Links Furnace Fest
Riot Fest
Seinfeld “The Airport” — Wikipedia
Alkaline Trio “Goddammit” — Wikipedia
Celebrating Mexican Independence Day, Chicago-style — Chicago Tribune
James Baldwin — Wikipedia
Thursday “War All the Time” — YouTube
Astronoid — Spotify
Sublime’s extremely problematic “Wrong Way” lyrics
A New Found Glory’s “Nothing Gold Can Stay” — Wikipedia
Sunny Day Real Estate’s “LP2” & “How It Feels To Be Something On” — Wikipedia
Pitchfork Music Fest
Thursday cover Bruce Springsteen’s “Dancing In The Dark” — YouTube
Andrew WK deletes social media and postpones tour dates
John Bunch of Further Seems Forever — Wikipedia
David Bazan of Pedro the Lion on his change of faith
“Emo is Awesome / Emo is Evil 1” compilation
Nat’s Weekly Pick — Elliott Smith’s “Elliott Smith” — Wikipedia
Jesse’s Weekly Pick — Taking Back Sunday “Tidal Wave” — Wikipedia
Get to know your hosts as Nat and Jesse discuss their formative tentpole moments as music fans, important moments along their journeys, and where they are now.
Links to things mentioned:
Nat’s music review website, “A Year of Vinyl”.
“Blackgaze” genre
Isis (the band)
The explosion of Christian metalcore
CCM
The rise of nü-metal
Christian alternatives to “secular” music
Other moments:
Indie rock gets popular
Weekly Picks
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