Two or Three Gathered: Recent Episodes
Jared Grant, Caleb Zwaadjik & Christine Welten
“Two or Three Gathered” is a series of conversations with Christian brothers and sisters, considering their efforts and contributions to the Kingdom vocationally, their stories and testimonies of God’s sovereignty and grace, and an opportunity to tackle the relevant issues the church faces in the 21st century.
Kia Ora Twos and ThreesToday we share the interview with the brilliant Dr Jacqueline Lloyd on the topics of her testimony, her vocational ministry (which is rich, tapestried, and enthralling), and her opinions regarding “Christians and the need for higher learning in Christ’s Body:
•Doctorate on ‘The Itinerant Ministry of Jesus of Nazareth as archaeological verifiable by the Gospel of Mark”
•Theological Consultant to a variety of Educational Institutions: NZCPT, Laidlaw College, Carey Baptist College, Otago University, YWAM etc
•Teacher of over 20+ years experience, from New Entrant to Upper Tertiary
•Experience in a series of Archaeological Digs/excavations in the Holy Land
•Involved in Church Planting in UK, associated with the Vineyard Churches
For the wealth of experience and wisdom this woman possesses, she is profoundly accessible and quintessentially a teacher. Given the similar outworked theme of teaching in her life and service is Jesus’ Kingdom, she possesses an uncanny knack for adjusting the complexity and translation of her ideas; this is something I have come to appreciate having seen her teach in a number of the contexts listed above. It is truly wonderful to see how this sister has been used by our Lord so interestingly in any variety of contexts to equip the saints towards a greater love of Jesus via the use of their minds in worship. With a good mix of anecdote and academic discussion, this is a cast I know you will be blessed for viewing.
Sola Deo Gloria,
The 2s & 3s Team
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Professional Links:
· Laidlaw College- Snr Research Fellow, SnrLecturer:
· https://www.laidlaw.ac.nz/staff/jacqueline-lloyd/
· New Zealand Christian Proprietor’s Trust- “SpecialCharacter” Coordinator/Theological Consultant:
· https://www.nzcpt.nz/special-character-coordinator
· LinkedIn- Summary of her Professional Expertise:
· https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-lloyd-2b6259143/?originalSubdomain=nz
Links to her Thesis:
· Otago University: https://ourarchive.otago.ac.nz/handle/10523/7675
· Mohr Siebeck: Academic Publishing: Archaeologyand the Itinerant Jesus 978-3-16-159347-5 - Mohr Siebeck
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Good day to you 2s & 3s,In this cast we had the opportunity to interview the remarkable Luke Collis, a NZ based Evangelist who spearheads the God anointed idea for the ministry “UNASHAMED.” It is phenomenal how God is blessing this enterprise, developing their capacity and enlarging their vision a step at a time. But Luke himself is very humble in his wisdom, heartfelt in his love for young people, and hypersensitive to situations and circumstances to where the Gospel can be authentically and accessibly preached. He was a delight to talk to, and will no doubt endear himself to our listeners• Youth Pastoral work in Various North Island Churches over 10+ years• Evangelism Consultant to a number of Churches• Visionary and Lead Speaker for UNASHAMED The cast is one part stories, another part theological and another part constructively critical of the NZ Church’s task of spreading the Good News in our blessed country. There is a clear sense of God’s leading and equipping in the ministry of this brother in Christ, and my hope is that you will have yet another opportunity to praise God for his faithfulness and providence in people like Luke. If this cast is anything to go by, Generation Z are hungry for Jesus and the context is prime for the Gospel to be shared.God bless and keep you,The 2’s & 3’s Team_______________________________________________Authentic Men's Magazine- "Unashamed of the Gospel" - https://authenticmagazine.co.nz/unash...The Daily Examiner - "Christian Leader calls out New Zealand Churches" - https://www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/ch..."Hey Pastor" || Spoken Word - • "Hey Pastor" || Spoken Word Luke's Plug- Worldwide Mission Organization, "Steiger:" https://www.steiger.org/about-usUNASHAMED: Links for Contact/Connection:Website: https://www.unashamed.nz/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unashamedNZYoutube: / @ucfn8ltjgp2j00h_u92tcmvq Luke Collis himself: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...Apply for the Evangelism Boot Camps! https://www.unashamed.nz/training-camp/_______________________________________________ Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513... Listen to us via your preferred podcast platform: https://anchor.fm/two-or-three-gathered _______________________________________________
Kia Ora Twos and Threes,
In this episode, we had the wonderful privilege of sitting down to chat with the mighty AJ Hendry: AJ is a former Laidlaw Bachelor of Theology graduate, Husband to Summer Hendry, Father to Wesley, Martin, Lewis and proud ‘Westie’ in the Auckland Context.
• He is a passionate, pragmatic faith-motivated advocate of a variety of Social Justice Causes causes including Youth Wellbeing, Homelessness and Mental Health.
• His interests also intersect with matters of Politics, Christian culture, and best practice for Youth Work. His roles (past/present) include working for Manaki Rangtahi, Lifewise Youth Housing Leader, Massey Community Trust Board member which includes recent work as Collaborator on the ‘Safety Net Project’.
• He has spoken publically in a range of settings - Media, Politics, Radio, Council, Churches, TV, Podcasts, Community Gatherings, ( via the likes of TVNZ, the AM Show, Newstalk ZB, RNZ, and various West Auckland settings) and writes regularly via his letterheads “When Lambs are Silent” & more recently “Letters from the Revolution.”
• Articles from these sites have been shared by the NZ Herald, Newsroom and Stuff on a national level.
In all of these settings, the man presents humbly and accessibly but with evident zeal to achieve better than before for our rangatahi (the younger generation) in Aotearoa. His discipline of work and self directed study has seen him emerge with a valued contrasting voice on matters which have been typically very polarized. We hope you are blessed by the conversation
Sola Deo Gloria,
- J. C. T. & C.
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His official FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/aejayhendry
His Letter Handles/Blog Sites: https://revolutionletters.substack.com/
https://whenlambsaresilent.wordpress....
The Youth Activism Spaces he works in: https://www.facebook.com/thesafetynet...
https://www.facebook.com/manaakiranga...
https://www.lifewise.org.nz/our-servi...
Media Interactions ( a sampling):
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1 News – Lifewise: Youth Housing Leader: https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/08/01/hu...
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Newstalk ZB – Youth Development Worker: https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/h...
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Newshub - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi...
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Youth Advocate - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi...
Articles written for National News Media: Newsroom - https://www.newsroom.co.nz/climate-ju...
NZ Herald - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/aaron-h...
Stuff.co.nz - https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/13098...
Podcasts and Radio
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His own: https://wlas.substack.com/podcast?fbc...
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Real Life with John Cowan (Newstalk ZB): https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=450...
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The Honest Theology Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ooN...
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Kia Ora 2’s and 3’s
In this 2nd Part of a Two part Testimony with our new co-host, Tony explores how his theologically academic journey was used by God to make sense of God’s bigger story through the lived experience of his own story. This informed the focus of his own Masters Research into the subject of “Figural Reading;” a blending of exegetical and eisegetical approaches to hermeneutics whereby reading Scripture transforms us and simultaneously reinterprets our lives within the formation. This blessed Tony with some remarkable insights, not least of all that God is present with us in our pain outside of time for eternity. He holds both our past and present in tension, envisioning with a glorious future for all of creation and humanity.
Tony also talks us through the years leading up to now, including a long period back in the UK where he was chaplain in one of the hardest schools in England and how that informed his recent decision to pursue teaching as a career. We hope you enjoy and are blessed for in your viewing,
God Bless you, - The 2's & 3's Team
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Kia Ora 2's & 3's
Its high time we formally introduce our newest inclusion to the "Two or Three Gathered" Team. Meet the remarkable Tony, a gift from God in so many ways, not least of all the unique blend of wisdom, accessibility, dynamism and authenticity in this son of God. We felt the best way in which to engage with some of the many reasons as to why we wanted him to join us would be to share his God glorifying testimony.
Fair warning: there is some gritty and gory stuff Tony describes in his coming to faith in Jesus Christ, but it is in this that God's love shines through so profoundly. There is a genuine Road to Damascus story here that Tony has shared in a variety of settings (even National Radio at one point!). May your faith in Jesus being mighty to save be refreshingly edified in your viewing
God Bless you,
- The 2's & 3's Team
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To our blessed listeners,
Thank you for listening to us in 2023- We kick of the year with the profound delight of interviewing “James Andrew Harris:”
• Former World Vision NZ Community Engagement Manager ( Also worked for WV in Jordan, Middle East & Nauru, Australia)
• Former “Zeal” NZ Wellington Manager (and other locations) with wife Jenna
• Now, Youth Worker in Aboriginal Community Belgo ,WA
• YouthWork WA 2021 Youth Work Awards Finalist
• Anglicare New Role in 2022: “Mobilsing Churches for Social Action across Australia”
• Advocate for Refugee Release from Nauru in Australia, World Vision Forum contacting Jacinda to ensure Nauru Refugees given sanctions
James is someone I can say genuinely walks and talks his walk with Christ. His heart for “the least of these” is equally challenging and inviting and evident in everything he does. More than just professionally, he and his wife Jenna do all that they do with a devout sense of missional worship.
Whether its discussing the merits of various Hardcore bands, Sneaky ninja brewskis with politicians live on air (see below), ‘Zines’ written about times in Palestine and its ‘Other Wailing Wall’ or Open letters to Mai FM about Loansharks; you will see through his insights why we are inspired by this man’s humble but steadfast devotion to Christ.
Sola Deo Gloria,
- The 2s & 3’s Team
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Youth Ministry Misfits Podcast –
https://anchor.fm/tim-mullen/episodes...
Down to Earth Conversations (Podcast) - https://www.downtoearthconversations....
Open Letter to Tony Abbot re: Australian Nauru Refugees /Asylum Seekers - https://jamesharris460.wordpress.com/...
Loan Shark Video - Open Letter to Mai FM: https://www.facebook.com/jamesandrewh...
"The Other Wailing Wall" Zine: https://www.facebook.com/events/82172...
(Now sold out) https://changeco.bigcartel.com/produc...
Newshub Live Conversation feat. Patrick Gower (James ninjas a livestream to talk politics - skip to 16 minutes in): https://www.facebook.com/NewshubNZ/vi...
“The Voyage” Band Member (Once upon a time): https://www.facebook.com/TheVoyageHC
Youth Work WA 2021 YW Awards Finalist: https://www.facebook.com/YouthWorkWA/...
(Crediting - among other things - his co-founding of “Youthwork.io” https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...)
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Kia Ora Koutou 2’s and 3’s!
In this fun-but-rambling conversation, we revisit a format we debuted in #013 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-PGE...) with the mighty Andrew Denton (https://www.facebook.com/andrew.mclac...) , where in this installment all the hosts share 3 movies that ‘messed us up’ in all the right ways and challenged us considering Christian Worldview:
- The Sunset Limited: A philosophical exploration of Nihilism vs Born Again Christianity
- The Green Light: A story of a principled surgeon whose sacrificial ethics explore the realism of doing right even when it is at great cost
- Midsommar: A dysfunctional couple travel to Sweden with friends for a Midsummer festival, only to find themselves trapped in the machinations of a Pagan Cult
This is also the 2nd we enjoy the company of our new cohost, “Tony Jee,” (https://justicejee.com/) a brilliant, Spirit-filled Christian who we look to introduce in part shortly to you all, and more in depth at a later date via his amazing God-glorifying testimony. We hope you give these a watch and have a laugh and listen as we seek to critique culture through a Christian lense. God bless you all!
- The 2’s & 3’s Team
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The three films, for your viewing pleasure to be considered:
- The Sunset Limited: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1510938/
- The Green Light: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gree...
- Midsommar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsommar
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Hello again 2’s and 3’s
In this 2nd part installment, while reiterating some points from part 1 we seek to 1) clarify more Biblical Theology with regards to Sex and Marriage, 2) Go into some aspects in greater depth (particularly concerning the “After Marriage angle”) and 3) use Parts 1 & 2 to then Q & A around some questions we believe Christian couple may have wondered about in the intersection between faith and sexuality, but have felt they have come up short in terms of direction. We thank Christine again for her wisdom, accessibility, transparency, candour and compassion with which she speaks on this subject. Her ever pastoral heart is a glimpse of God’s heart in her to see people know His will for their lives.
We hope you enjoy this and find it useful,
- J.
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Some valuable sources that further unpack/support Biblical approaches to Sex:
C.J. Mahaney - "Sex, Romance and the Glory of God: " https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sho...
Matt Chandler (w Jared C Wilson) - " The Mingling of Souls:" https://www.koorong.com/product/the-m...
Dr Sean Mcdowell interviews Nancey Pearcey et al: "How Protestants are waking up to a theology of the Body:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkTQ...
Family First: The Harms of Pornography - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZ4L...
TED ED: Escaping Porn Addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbYWK...
Ask Pastor John (Piper, of Desiring God)- "Is Oral Sex Okay?" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzimK...
The Paradox Institute - Sex and Gender explored scientifically: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...
Your Brain on Porn (Christine recommends the book these videos are sourced from): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gk4...
Jubilee Videos:
Is the Idea of Virginity outdated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQnS...
Do all virgins think the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlI7...
Should you have sex before marriage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXfk...
Dr Preston Sprinkle: "Dear Church - Im Gay:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_0A...
Unbelievable? Transgenderism and the Church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNz4...
Unbelievable? Side A and Side B Christians converse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsv6...
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Greetings to all "The Gathered,"
In this two parter, we defer to our resident expert Christine on a biblically based conversation around Sex. Christine previously had a capacity where she spoke to schools and churches around such subjects, thus enabling communities to break taboos and develop comfort to discuss this important subject as it applies to life. We discuss Biblical understandings, principles and ethics, science and anecdotal stories in the building of what we believe is a lifegiving approach to Sex in line with Christ's ideal for our lives.
To Christ be the glory,
- C, J. & C.
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Some valuable sources that further unpack/support Biblical approaches to Sex:
Dr Sean Mcdowell interviews Nancey Pearcey et al: "How Protestants are waking up to a theology of the Body:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkTQ...
Family First: The Harms of Pornography - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZ4L...
TED ED: Escaping Porn Addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbYWK...
The Paradox Institute - Sex and Gender explored scientifically: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...
Your Brain on Porn (Christine recommends the book these videos are sourced from): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gk4...
Jubilee Videos:
Is the Idea of Virginity outdated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQnS...
Do all virgins think the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlI7...
Should you have sex before marriage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXfk...
Dr Preston Sprinkle: "Dear Church - Im Gay:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_0A...
Unbelievable? Transgenderism and the Church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNz4...
Unbelievable? Side A and Side B Christians converse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsv6...
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Kia Ora 2’s & 3’s
What a remarkable privilege this Podcast was! We had the profound, poignant and vastly professionally experienced Mark Powell join us for an interview today:
• Former CEO of “The Warehouse Group” NZ
• Masters of Apologetics via Biola University, USA
• Now Lecturer of Apologetics at Carey Baptist College, Auckland
• Former Adjunct Professor at Massey Business School, Auckland Business School
• Executive Positions on a series of Boards across NZ & Australia
We had an in depth discussion concerning apologetics and evangelism in the 21st Century. Much of Mark’s thinking in both business and theology come down to similar epistemic questions- what do we believe to be true? His consistent belief is that all orthopraxis/pathy/doxy stems from this ultimately. We also had ample opportunity to discuss the strawman perspective of ‘Christianity being against the accumulation of wealth,’ critiquing both common assumptions and some of the more complex thinking that underlies it at the worldview level.
Mark possesses that skill of a profound economy of words where he can say a multitude of probing and dissecting things with a measured succinctness. As such, there is so much more here that just the time taken itself that I think will help your faith in Christ weigh in the heady topics mentioned above in practical ways.
As always, we look forward to your engagement!
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God Bless you,
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First and most important, Mark’s sons-in-law in Hibiscus Coast: https://www.tahielectrical.co.nz/
https://www.facebook.com/TahiElectrical
https://www.linkedin.com/company/tahi-electrical
Carey Baptist College- Mark Powell - Short Bio: https://www.carey.ac.nz/team-member/mark-powell/
The Official Website of Carey: https://www.carey.ac.nz/
Thinking Matters- Longer Bio, and Association: https://thinkingmatters.org.nz/presenters/mark-powell/
“No Pressure to Leave – Warehouse Boss Mark Powell (2015):” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/no-pressure-to-leave-warehouse-boss-mark-powell/FWBPIBNVPLK7Y3B25DHLVGK3WI/
Biola University: a Private Christian University in Southern California - https://www.biola.edu/
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Kia Ora 2's and 3's,
In this 2nd Podcast, Caleb and I discuss some further postulations concerning Jesus and other worldviews, including:
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- Jesus and the conspiracy to omit reincarnation from Christian belief
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- "The infamous Jesus Seminar," and its spurious claims
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- Jesus didn't exist: A Roman empire innovation to promote peace
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- Jesus as depicted by Mormonism
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- Jesus as depicted by Islam
While not exhaustive, we believe we present enough information in this two casts to encourage critical review of the alternative presentations of Jesus bar Joseph of Nazareth. Bottom line? Christianity just presents Him better! As always, we hope the sources linked help you continue on your journey towards the answers for yourself.
In Christ's love, C. T. J. & C
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Coming up:
• Former CEO of the Warehouse Group and Carey Bap Col Professor in Apologetics
• 2 part Testimony with our new co-Host Tony Jee
• A 2 part discussion on Sex: Before/During/After Marriage done Biblically
• We also look to have Caleb join us again for a fun one: Movies that Messed us up Pt 2
• And the trial of our first Live Christian Pop Commentary Cast...
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- NT Wright – “What is God’s Future for the World?” Forum at Fuller Theological Seminary, 2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNKp3jYyRo
- “Surprised By Hope: Re-Thinking Heaven, Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church” - https://www.koorong.com/product/surprised-by-hope-re-thinking-heaven-resurrection-and_9780281064779
- “The Jesus Quest – The Third Search for the Jew of Nazareth” – Ben Witherington: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/review/the-jesus-quest-the-third-search-for-the-jew-of-nazareth/
- “How seriously do scholars take the Jesus Seminar?” Q & A for W.L. Craig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLKCvcg6M_4
- Capturing Christianity (Cameron Bertuzzi) interviews Dr. Gary Habermas: “New Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMx1OikHC8U
- Post Apostolic Church – “Why Study the Pre-Nicene Christian Writings?” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJA-wIRctmE&t=222s
- “The Case against the Case for Christ – A New Testament Scholar refutes the Reverend Lee Strobel- Robert M. Price” - https://www.amazon.com.au/Case-Against-Christ-Testament-Reverend/dp/1578840058
- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints – The Gospel Topics Essays: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/essays?lang=eng
- Searching “David Wood, Islam” will yield a plethora of Apologetic sources discussing Islam: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=David+Wood%2C+Islam
- But we also recommend two additional sources here: David Wood’s Acts 17 Apologetics (Reuploaded given the Channel’s recent deletion): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiRDwbFY56nJ5INZG_vXNlA
- Nabeel Qureshi – “Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus: A Devout Muslim encounters Christianity” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0D8Uz4oQck
- The Cultish Show – Podcast: https://thecultishshow.com/podcast
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Good day to you 2s and 3s,
In this week-to-week, back-to-back installment, Caleb & Jared examine some considerations of Jesus Christ by other religions and belief systems (Myths and Mystery Religions, Cults and established faiths, etc) and where they fall short. Over these two parts, we fairly consistently see the following principles for critical reflection emerge:
- - Many religions seeks to bolster their own credibility by endorsing the coherence of figures from another; many faiths often (and rightly so) find Jesus of Nazareth very compelling
- - However, their 'square peg in round hole' approaches consistently find their contexts are lacking in explaining such a character, and their accompanying inconsistencies in their own core tenets often are self defeating anyway
- - We endorse a 'Mike Winger' approach that the best defense against the convincing arguments for other faiths (while knowing about the alternatives can be helpful), is to develop good Scriptural literacy
We had a lot of fun recording these, rehearsing points we ourselves found useful in apologetically defining Christian faith. We hope it blesses you too :) As always, we include some sources below to continue your own learning in faith journey. God bless you all,
- J., C. & J.
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More to be shared in Pt 2
- SHOCK CLAIM: The story of JESUS was 'copied from prior religions to CONTROL the people' - https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/774752/JESUS-prior-religions-CONTROL-the-people-roman WAS THE JESUS STORY STOLEN FROM OSIRIS, MITHRA AND OTHER ANCIENT GODS?
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- https://welcometotruth.com/blogs/apologetics/osiris-mithra (Tongue in Cheek) REBUNKING CONSPIRACY THEORIES JESUS CONSPIRACIES by KEATON PATTI - https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/jesus-conspiracies
- 21 Important Bible Verses about Cults - https://biblereasons.com/cults/
- Jesus and Mary Magdalene - https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-who-was-mary-magdalene-debunking-the-myth-of-the-penitent-prostitute-92658
- Jesus' Divinity in Mark's Gospel - https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-divinity-of-jesus-according-to-mark
- Bible Verses about Reincarnation? -https://www.openbible.info/topics/reincarnation
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Kia Ora / Talofa lava Twos and Threes,
In this cast, we interview Family First's "Nick Tuitasi" (We apologise for only audio on this release)
- · Pacific Engagement Coordinator for NGO “Family First”
- · Social Worker- Pacific Engagement Consultancy for the Ministry of Social Development, Te Wananga Tertiary Institution
- · Police Officer for more than 25 years
- · A variety of speaking roles for: Radio and Media, Places of Education, Conferences (Christian and otherwise)
- · A variety of awards, including: Police Silver Merit Award (1993), The Queen Service Medal (1998), and one of North & South’s Top Kiwis of the Century (2000)
Nick was such a delight talk to- with a God-given gift for oration, he effortlessly and accessibly (often humourously!) shared expertise on all of these areas as it related back to his discipleship journey. The way his story weaved in and through the ever present stream of providence marks a man who both glorifies God for every benefitted step of the way, but has clearly been profoundly impacted by such grace also.
The release of this podcast is all the more pertinent given the NZ Supreme Court's ruling (alluded to in the cast) where Family First has been stripped of it's charitable status given its particular definition of 'Family.' Their work is all the more important then in advancing a plurality of opinions in contrast to woke and progressive options being advocated as the be-all/end-all. Please do consider supporting their work financially as they redouble their efforts of advocacy despite the setback:
- https://familyfirst.org.nz/donations/
- Some of Nick's Background/Further Credentials: https://www.speakers.co.nz/our-speakers/all-speakers/nick-tuitasi/
- Pray as One Interview- Nick Tuitasi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpknH3_59f4&ab_channel=PrayAsOneNZ
- Nick's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicktuitasi/?hl=en
- "Pacifically Correct-" Nick's innovation: https://familyfirst.org.nz/category/pacifically-correct/
God bless you all, and we look forward to your engagement with this material. We hope you are blessed at least as richly as Christine and I were in having the conversation with this blessed brother,
To Christ be the Glory,
J. & C.
Kia ora everybody!
In this episode, Jared and Christine got together to chat about COVID 19 and potential Christian responses.
(Keep in mind, this was recorded before #convoy2022 and the subsequent protests)
Some of the links mentioned in the cast, or ones that we think have relevant information either way:
The John Snow Memorandum, a pro-vaccine declaration:
https://www.johnsnowmemo.com/
The Great Barrington Declaration, a declaration with a different kind of stance from that of the John Snow Memorandum:
https://gbdeclaration.org/
Joe Rogan's interview with immunologist Dr Robert Malone:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SCsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT
Guy Hatchard, NZ based statistician:
https://hatchardreport.com/
Aotearoa's OFFICIAL COVID 19 announcement dubstep remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj2ymyy7AAo
Ardern's brave words during the beginning of this pandemic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3xnT9Dr0uo
Hey there 2's and 3's!
For our 30th cast, we had the immense privilege of interviewing Dr Rod Thompson, a prominent Educational Expert in Australasia on what is 'Christian Education:'
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Former Principal of Laidlaw College (NZ Bible College: 2011 - 2015)
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Doctorate on 'The Foundational Impact of Teaching the Bible in Schools'
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Former Pastor of Sydney Church Plant, Current Pastor Emeritus in Springwood Presbyterian Churches in Sydney's Blue Mountains
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A variety of current, lecturing/teaching Roles, incl. with NZ's Venn Foundation, Australia's Christian Education National (CEN) and the National Institute of Christian Education (NICE)
As are all conversations/speaking engagements with Rod we had an inspiring conversation regarding the blending between Pastoral and Teaching Vocations, What it means to teach Christianly, and on the need for Biblical Literacy in the 21st Century. Rod's insights carry import of considerable worth bridged in the sort of accessible way that only a pastor/teacher of many years wisdom and experience could do in making the complex simple. We hope you enjoy this offering, as his perspectives are certainly still resonating in our ears in lived out echoes.
Grace & Peace in Christ's name, - J, C. & J.
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One of Rod's latest ventures is as a Board Member of "Hope Christian Homes;" a Social Business/NGO wishing to find, fund and repurpose housing and tenancy for the purpose of providing people with disabilities a valuable means of integrating into society; through living in homes of their own. I highly recommend checking out this wonderful venture, as I suspect we will see good things in days to come: Hope Christian Homes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqUG...
Promoting Rod's Current Pastoral Role as a Minister at "Springwood Presbyterian Churches:" https://springwoodpresbyterianchurche...
"The Transforming Vision: Shaping a Christian Worldview" (Walsh & Middleton) - https://www.koorong.com/product/trans...
"Walking with God in the Classroom: Christian Approaches to Learning and Teaching" (Harro van Brummelen): https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sho...
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Kia Ora 2’s & 3’s!
In this special edition of the cast, Jared shares a selection of shorter interviews originally for his Middle School Context. Students learning about Jesus’ words concerning Salt and Light in Matthew 5 were encouraged to consider this through the lense of Charitable/NGO/Humanitarian work as fulfilment of the Matthew 28 Great Commission. He invited a number of local guests working in Holy Spirit inspired spaces to share a little about their work and a little about what their outworking of a Salt and Light Orthopraxis meant for their discipleship. You can view links to their associated organizations below…
Andrew Marriott- Executive Director of MVNZ
Motivate NZ: https://motivate.nz/?fbclid=IwAR3HoTd...
Caitlin Watson- Youth Worker/Former Local Council HBC/Social Business Worker
Hope Shop HBC: https://www.facebook.com/thehopeshophbc/
Coast Mentoring: https://www.coastmentoring.nz/?fbclid... (In Collaboration with “Coast Youth Community Trust” and “Youth in Transition”)
Joseph Youssef- Social Business Developer/Former WBC Pastor
All Heart NZ: https://allheartnz.org.nz/?fbclid=IwA...
Vanessa Gatman (Previously interviewed)
You Are Charitable Trust: https://www.youare.co.nz/?fbclid=IwAR...
015 Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GoJ7...
A number of these guests indicated they would be delighted to share again on other worthy topics, so we very much look forward to having them again. In the mean-time, we hope you enjoy this selection of God honouring people working to worship Him where they are,
God Bless,
C, C. & J.
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Greetings Twos and Threes!
In this 2 Part instalment, we had the wonderful privilege of talking to two of Jared's colleagues, Gavin and Paula Daniel. These remarkable people have been shaped indelibly by God's grace, their story marked by a testimony of God's faithfulness as well as the importance of obedience, authenticity as well as waiting on God's will. This South-African, Indian couple shared their story of growing up with Apartheid, the cultural dynamics of religion, marriage and blending families, and a coming to faith story alongside their journey to join us here in NZ. With lots of laughs alongside moments of sobriety we loved every minute of hearing their story of God's goodness.
We hope you can see too why we saw fit to encourage the sharing of their story with others. Coming up, a special glimpse into some NZ based charity work and a very special guest to mark our 30th cast. We thank you again for gathering with us in His name, and pray the holiday season is one marked with fun, fellowship, food and festivity as we remember Jesus as reason for the season.
- J., C. & C.
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Greetings Twos and Threes!
In this 2 Part instalment, we had the wonderful privilege of talking to two of Jared's colleagues, Gavin and Paula Daniel. These remarkable people have been shaped indelibly by God's grace, their story marked by a testimony of God's faithfulness as well as the importance of obedience, authenticity as well as waiting on God's will. This South-African, Indian couple shared their story of growing up with Apartheid, the cultural dynamics of religion, marriage and blending families, and a coming to faith story alongside their journey to join us here in NZ. With lots of laughs alongside moments of sobriety we loved every minute of hearing their story of God's goodness.
We hope you can see too why we saw fit to encourage the sharing of their story with others. Coming up, a special glimpse into some NZ based charity work and a very special guest to mark our 30th cast. We thank you again for gathering with us in His name, and pray the holiday season is one marked with fun, fellowship, food and festivity as we remember Jesus as reason for the season.
- J., C. & C.
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Good day to you 2's & 3's In this podcast, we had the immense privilege of interviewing talented, NZ Based Author (and personal friend) Laura Wolf. Having written over 20 written works/projects (from Pub Quiz books, to Flower cultural knowledge, and even a recent collection on Cybersafety for youths), we asked her questions regarding her area of most authority- Romance Literature. As a Christian Artisan, we wanted to ask her about the themes explored in an often misunderstood genre that has powerful redemptive parallels to Gospel-infused themes. Talking to such transcendent thematic ideas as 'Faith, Hope and Love' she also helped us navigate the importance of Christians discussing sex and sexuality well as part of our God given image with soul and body integrally linked. We have intentions to have her back to discuss these themes of sexuality in more detail, but hope you enjoy this offering in the mean time. She was an absolute joy, and we heartily recommend you give her a listen, as well as check out her various written works. Even more brilliant things to come from her, we assure you! -J, C. & J.
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Laura's catalogue of works available via Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Laura-Wolf/e/B... Laura Wolf - Author (Official Facebook Page) https://www.facebook.com/LauraWolfAuthor The Author's Librarian (YT): Interview with Laura: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HRzl... Interview with "Christchurch Writers": https://chchnzwriters.org/blog/stop-w... A Cinderella for the Undercover Billionaire - her debut novel: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KDWZ824 Happy Trails - This is a NZ Hiking romance short story with a divorcee protagonist: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PCDGNWH Christmas On Henderson Island - a quirky modern desert island romance with a theme of ocean plastic: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082H61BG7 An NZ association that Laura is a member of: https://www.romancewriters.co.nz/
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Kia Ora E Te Whānau,
Unfortunately our dear Christine Welten was feeling unwell as we filmed this cast and was unable to join in. While we would have loved to have her korero with us, we reckon it turned out alright.
In part 3, we discuss some of the ways in which we, as Christians can approach this potential legislation. Whether the bill passes or not whether we are in favour or not, we wanted to talk about these things.
We also discussed a little about Aotearoa's Conversion Therapy bill and the ramifications that it may have when used in conjunction with this bill. (More to come on that front later!)
As a disclaimer, it seems that I (Caleb) was mistaken as the radio station Richard Dawkins was set to interview with (who cancelled the interview) is not affiliated with USC Berkeley. The point still stands that this is a city, famous for it's defense of free speech and liberty.
Aroha Nui,
J., C. & C.
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Discussion Document: "Proposals against incitement of hatred and discrimination" - Minister of Justice, Kris Faafoi - https://www.justice.govt.nz/assets/do...
Dept of Internal Affairs - Three Waters Reform Programme: https://www.dia.govt.nz/Three-Waters-... - Three Waters - What you need to know (Russell Palmer): https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/what-you-n...
NZ Harmful Digital Communications Act, 2015: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...
The Covid19 Public Health Response Bill: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/... - The Counter Terrorism Legislation Bill: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/...
The 2007 NZ Police Raids: "Tame Iti shooting the Flag:" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Ne...
We The Internet - Five Reasons why we need Hate Speech (Lou Perez): https://www.facebook.com/wetheinterne...
Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux banned from public speaking in Auckland: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/3... - AJ+
Apartheid Explained (in just under 3 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7yvn...
Marcus Meechan (Count Dankula) and the circumstances around his 'hate crime:' https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...
Paul Moon's Open Letter regarding Free Speech: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...
Richard Dawkins banned from speaking at Berkeley due to "Islamaphobia": https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40710165
Good day to you 'the Gathered,'
In part 2, we proceeded to cover the relevant points (as per out initial outline) mentioned below...
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Related NZ Legislature (Counter Terrorism, Harmful Digital Communications, Covid Response)
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Regarding Engagement with the associated ideas (in popular culture)
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Re: Other Media Points and Miscellaneous Points
Some 'technical difficulties' meant we couldnt finish in this episode, and thus needed to conclude with one more part, where we discuss the Conversion Therapy Bill's coin-cidence and how Christians could and should respond given all of these particulars in the NZ context.
In this part, we discussed the Covid Restrictions and the associated politicization (Skip to @29:30 if you want to get to the topic faster), the Counter Terrorism Legislation, as well as begin discuss how culture globally has interacted with these ideological trends. As always, we welcome and and all engagement on these topics,
With much love,
J., C. & C.
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Discussion Document: "Proposals against incitement of hatred and discrimination" - Minister of Justice, Kris Faafoi
https://www.justice.govt.nz/assets/documents/publications/incitement-discussion-document.pdf
Dept of Internal Affairs - Three Waters Reform Programme:
https://www.dia.govt.nz/Three-Waters-Reform-Programme
Three Waters - What you need to know (Russell Palmer):
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/what-you-need-to-know/452865/three-waters-what-you-need-to-know
NZ Harmful Digital Communications Act, 2015:
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2015/0063/latest/whole.html
The Covid19 Public Health Response Bill:
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2020/0246/latest/whole.html#LMS344134
The Counter Terrorism Legislation Bill: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2021/0029/latest/whole.html#LMS479298
The 2007 NZ Police Raids: "Tame Iti shooting the Flag:"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_New_Zealand_police_raids
We The Internet - Five Reasons why we need Hate Speech (Lou Perez):
https://www.facebook.com/wetheinternettv/videos/824937531449603
Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux banned from public speaking in Auckland:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/361220/far-right-pair-banned-from-speaking-at-auckland-council-venues-phil-goff AJ+
Apartheid Explained (in just under 3 minutes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7yvnUz2PLE&ab_channel=AJ%2B
Marcus Meechan (Count Dankula) and the circumstances around his 'hate crime:'
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nazi-dog-salute-scot-take-22227891
Paul Moon's Open Letter regarding Free Speech:
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Good day to you 'the Gathered,' This one was a bit of a Rabbit Hole! We intended to follow an initial outline:
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Introduction to the Proposed Legislature revisions:
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Related NZ Legislature (Bill of Rights, Human Rights, Counter Terrorism, Harmful Digital Communications, Covid Response, etc)
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Regarding Engagement with the associated ideas (in popular culture) - Re: Other Media Points and Miscellaneous Points
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Re: The Conversion Practices Prohibition Legislation Bill
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Christian Perspective weighing in, and what now should we do?
...But found that it wasnt sufficient to just cover this in just one podcast. We understand that this is a divisive issue and that opinions are divided. But it is in that spirit that we emphasize that fair and open discussion amongst all people (Christians included) is necessary on an issue being sidelined, occurring globally and that could grant governments extraordinary utility for both good or bad.
In this first part, we examine the proposals as well as interaction with other legislation (and begin to discuss popular engagement around said topics). As per usual, please avail yourself of the material below that you might come to your own opinion on these matters; Christians need to have considered some of these variables particularly in navigating discipleship in our 21st century world. With much love, J., C. & C.
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Discussion Document: "Proposals against incitement of hatred and discrimination" - Minister of Justice, Kris Faafoi - https://www.justice.govt.nz/assets/documents/publications/incitement-discussion-document.pd
PM says government could have better communicated Hate Speech Proposals (1 News, July 2021) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uFXMB743rw
Jamie Ensor, Newshub: Hate speech explainer: The six key proposed changes Government wants public's feedback on - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/06/hate-speech-explainer-the-six-key-proposed-changes-government-wants-public-s-feedback-on.html
Russell Palmer, RNZ: Proposed hate speech laws: What you need to know - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/proposed-hate-speech-laws-what-you-need-to-know/MVWR2D7MNZXJCD7FEUUUDQCH4A/
Encyclopedia Britannica: "What is the difference between Criminal law and Civil Law?" - https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-the-difference-between-criminal-law-and-civil-law
NZ Harmful Digital Communications Act, 2015: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2015/0063/latest/whole.html
NZ Bill of Rights Act, 1990: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0109/latest/DLM224792.html
NZ Human Rights Act, 1993 https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0082/latest/DLM304212.html
NZ Defamation Act, 1992: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1992/0105/latest/whole.html
Tova O'Brien, Newshub: Could Millennials be jailed for hating on Boomers? Kris Faafoi answers tough questions about the new hate speech proposals- https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/06/could-millennials-be-jailed-for-hating-on-boomers-kris-faafoi-answers-tough-questions-about-the-new-hate-speech-proposals.html?fbclid=IwAR0IP96Do_NX_TYEIM8Cw6gNwhowMfWNIRPlaSHd19wOya5e1tKLqP6CsXE
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Good day to you 'our fellow heathens,'
In this episode, we interview the brilliant Simeon Hawkins, a colleague of Jared's and Master of Theology Graduate having completed a thesis on 'the History of St Paul's Episcopal Church in Auckland.' Over two casts, we addressed the themes detailed in his work:
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Maori and the High Church Relationships
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The role of Auckland's 1st Church with Officials and Ruling Powers
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St Paul's as 'the Church of the Garrison'
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Connections with its members to Free Masonry
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Social Philanthropy of the congregation and its members (especially in Education)
In this 2nd installment, we address the remaining last two remaining themes within Simeon's thesis, as well as NZ Christianity and allyship/advocacy of biculturalism as well as some miscellaneous questions at the end. We hope you enjoy this concluding piece in your viewing.
To God's Glory, and yours in Christ,
- C., J. & C.
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The Spinoff's Article on Pania Newton and Matt Renata's efforts regarding the Ihumatao protests and activism: https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/30-10-2020/what-are-you-christians-doing-here-matt-renata-on-faith-and-protest-at-ihumatao/
Simeon's Master's Theology/Church History Thesis via Auckland University: https://researchspace.auckland.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/2292/52520/whole.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1mdOLXwaLwkOsMO2O5gwH96AFHcdRaszIinx_mls8270IqRpTYYM9HCNI 2021
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Good day to you 'our fellow heathens,'
In this episode, we interview the brilliant Simeon Hawkins, a colleague of Jared's and Master of Theology Graduate having completed a thesis on 'the History of St Paul's Episcopal Church in Auckland.' Over two casts, we addressed the themes detailed in his work:
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Maori and the High Church Relationships
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The role of Auckland's 1st Church with Officials and Ruling Powers
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St Paul's as 'the Church of the Garrison'
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Connections with its members to Free Masonry
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Social Philanthropy of the congregation and its members (especially in Education)
As well as getting to know a little about God's work in his life via testimony, Simeon also shared insights around Church History generally (given his expertise) and perspectives around the NZ Church's place in championing Bi-cultural advocacy given NZ collective church history. Simeon is intelligent, very theologically articulate and warm and engaging with the sharing of any and all of his insights. He is humble and thus endearing to the listener in all such presentations, and we hope his rich insights bless you the listener with a deeper understanding on these topics.
To God's Glory, and yours in Christ,
- C., J. & C.
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Simeon's Master's Theology/Church History Thesis via Auckland University: https://researchspace.auckland.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/2292/52520/whole.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1mdOLXwaLwkOsMO2O5gwH96AFHcdRaszIinx_mls8270IqRpTYYM9HCNI 2021
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Good day to you 2's and 3's!
In this 20th Podcast, we had the absolute privilege of interviewing Daniel Lake: - Former YWAM Missional Leader over 15 years in over 20 countries - NZ Director for the Charity "Open Doors" which helps the persecuted church globally - Whangaparoa Baptist Church's Teaching Pastor Dan has the kind of faithful discipleship married with gregariousness and love that makes him the kind of Christian you want to associate with the faith and followers of Jesus. He seasons what he shares with engaging anecdotes and 'precise pearlers.' We covered a variety of topics that each could adequately be covered in their own cast, and as such he would be very much welcome to come again to discuss Missiology and Ecclesiology in greater depth. We hope you enjoy this latest offering. - C., J. & C.
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Whangaparoa Baptist Church - Official Website: https://wbc.org.nz/
Open Doors NZ - Serving Persecuted Christians Worldwide: https://www.opendoors.org.nz/
Youth with a Mission Furnace (Tauranga, NZ): https://ywam.org/location/ywam-furnac...
Youth with a Mission - Auckland Te Ao Marama, NZ: https://ywam.org/location/ywam-auckla...
The Venn Foundation: https://www.venn.org.nz/
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Dan and Co's Book recommendations/Plugs:
When People are Big, and God is Small - Overcoming Peer Pressure, Co-dependency and the Fear of Man | Edward T. Welch : https://www.amazon.com/When-People-Ar...
When Helping Hurts - How to alleviate poverty without hurting the poor... and yourself | Steve Corbett & Brian Fikkert : https://www.manna.co.nz/when-helping-...
Walking with the Poor - Principles and Practices of Transformational Development | Bryant L. Myers : https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/w...
The Trivialization of God - The Dangerous Illusion of a Manageable Deity | Donald W. McCullough: https://www.amazon.com/Trivialization...
Church History in Plain Language (4th Ed.) | Bruce Shelley : https://www.manna.co.nz/church-histor... _________________________________________________________________________
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Thanks again for joining us "our fellow heathens" This cast marks the first official podcast with the inspirational 'Christine Welten' as a co-host. With her brilliant array of gifts & talents, and her testimony of God's grace alongside her set of experiences -we believe- will enrich what we seek to provide you, the viewer, with. In this cast, we deep dive concerning the history and theology of the "World Mission Society Church of (Mother) God" or colloquially known as 'the Mother God cult.' We anticipate there may be some backlash for this one, but hope that it serves Christ's body as converts seek liberation from the problematic ideas and constraints of this movement. Like and Subscribe if you appreciate our content, as we appreciate your engagement!
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If you are interested and want to find out more about this movement, or if you are wanting help seeking liberty from this movement, reach out to us via these platforms and we'll do whatever we can to help you. Also, you can check out the links below (Mike Winger's material is particularly exceptional).
Yours in Christ, C. J. & C.
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Mike Winger's "BibleThinker" Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/biblethinker/id1358056327
Mike Winger's Videos concerning WMSCOG: What the Bible REALLY says about God the Mother! WMSCOG refuted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0LhGhJDXtA
The Shocking Truth About Christ AhnSahngHong!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-L9oV13vRI
The Secret History of the Fast Growing “Mother God” Cult (with NEW info I've never shared before): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUeNiX-WLoo
The False Teachings and Lies of Joo-Cheol Kim (Pastor of the Church of God): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jRFNZeu9qM
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Thanks again for joining us "our fellow heathens" This cast marks the first official podcast with the inspirational 'Christine Welten' as a co-host. With her brilliant array of gifts & talents, and her testimony of God's grace alongside her set of experiences -we believe- will enrich what we seek to provide you, the viewer, with. In this cast, we deep dive concerning the history and theology of the "World Mission Society Church of (Mother) God" or colloquially known as 'the Mother God cult.' We anticipate there may be some backlash for this one, but hope that it serves Christ's body as converts seek liberation from the problematic ideas and constraints of this movement. Like and Subscribe if you appreciate our content, as we appreciate your engagement!
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If you are interested and want to find out more about this movement, or if you are wanting help seeking liberty from this movement, reach out to us via these platforms and we'll do whatever we can to help you. Also, you can check out the links below (Mike Winger's material is particularly exceptional).
Yours in Christ, C. J. & C.
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Mike Winger's "BibleThinker" Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/biblethinker/id1358056327
Mike Winger's Videos concerning WMSCOG: What the Bible REALLY says about God the Mother! WMSCOG refuted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0LhGhJDXtA
The Shocking Truth About Christ AhnSahngHong!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-L9oV13vRI
The Secret History of the Fast Growing “Mother God” Cult (with NEW info I've never shared before): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUeNiX-WLoo
The False Teachings and Lies of Joo-Cheol Kim (Pastor of the Church of God): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jRFNZeu9qM
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Hey Twos and Threes!
In this Final Part 3 of 3, We explore William Lane Craig's 3 Arguments specifically advancing Christian Theism. With the 1st 6 arguments setting the groundwork, now we have context for presenting a richer, fuller argument for Christ as the special revelation of that God generally revealed by Creation. For references for more sources exploring the ideas touched upon in this cast, please follow the links below. Let us know what you thought of this cast in the comments!
- C., J & C.
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J's Blog: Inelijahstimes - Part 1 on General Theism: https://inelijahstimes.wordpress.com/2017/02/26/existential-questions-pt-1-a-young-boy-moving-considering-atheism-to-theism-to-christian-theism/
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Part 2 on Christian Theism: https://inelijahstimes.wordpress.com/2018/01/01/existential-questions-pt-2-moving-from-general-theism-to-christian-theism/
References and links: Kevin Scharp and William Lane Craig's debate at Ohio State University 2016. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KMd_eS2J7o
The Internet Classics Archive | "The Euthyphro Dilemma" by Plato: http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/euthyfro.html
Ecumenical and Multifaith Unit, Diocese of New Westminster: Summary of Major World Religions: https://dq5pwpg1q8ru0.cloudfront.net/2020/10/29/14/36/02/1a5e5a43-c85c-4b6e-a077-de8c8811180b/EMU%20-%20A%20Summary%20of%20World%20Religions.pdf
TED Edu - The Five Major World Religions | John Bellaimey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6dCxo7t_aE
M & M Blog and Website: https://www.facebook.com/MandM.blog/An analytic theologian and a legal philosopher blog on philosophy of religion, ethics, theology, jurisprudence and social commentary | Kiwi-Style (Good commentary from a Christian Worldview on Moral Law/Legal Philosophy)
William Lane Craig interviewed for the Veritas Forum: "What is the significance of Jesus' Ressurection?' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNTs54TqMik
David Rohl - Egyptologist presenting new Chronology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rohl
Christianity from Judaism to Constantine: Crash Course World History #11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG55ErfdaeY&t=3s
Lesslie Newbigin's Book - Proper Confidence: Faith, Doubt, and Certainty in Christian Discipleship https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/273775.Proper_Confidence
The Bible Project - "What is the Bible?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak06MSETeo4
Chris Harrison - Bible Cross References: https://www.chrisharrison.net/index.php/Visualizations/BibleViz
Michael Heiser — Refuting Polytheistic Origins regarding Israelite Monotheism | Definition of Elohim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDMjxXzCRvw
A Hidden Message | The Gospel in Genesis - KHouse - Chuck Missler https://www.khouse.org/articles/1996/44/print/
Mazzaroth - The Hebrew Zodiac https://www.blogos.org/thinkabout/mazzaroth.html
The Witness of the Stars by E. W. Bullinger (Free PDF E-Book) https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/49018(This work first educated me about the Hebrew Zodiac, and its importance in proving the Biblical Account of things)
Near Death Experience Research: Videos curated by the University of Virginia: https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/dops-media/video-near-death-experience-research/
GOSPEL BICENTENNIAL: HAS IT BEEN GOOD NEWS FOR MĀORI? - Aaryn Niuapu https://thepostcolonial.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/gospel-bicentennial-has-it-been-good-news-for-maori/
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Hey Twos and Threes!
Thanks for watching/listening. Let us know what you thought of this cast in the comments and stay tuned for parts 2 and three, released in a week and in a fortnight (respectively).
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J's Blog: Inelijahstimes - Part 1 on General Theism: https://inelijahstimes.wordpress.com/2017/02/26/existential-questions-pt-1-a-young-boy-moving-considering-atheism-to-theism-to-christian-theism/ Part 2 on Christian Theism: https://inelijahstimes.wordpress.com/2018/01/01/existential-questions-pt-2-moving-from-general-theism-to-christian-theism/
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Liebnez & Samuel Clark's principles of sufficient reason. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sufficient-reason/ https://1000wordphilosophy.com/2018/03/27/leibnizs-principle-of-sufficient-reason/
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Red Pen Logic's fresh approach to “Can god make a rock so heavy...” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZxBXfbTaM
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Oxford Handbook essay on Molinism/ https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199935314.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780199935314-e-29
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Hey Twos and Threes!
Thanks for watching/listening.
Let us know what you thought of this cast in the comments and stay tuned for parts 2 and three, released in a week and in a fortnight (respectively).
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Keving Scharp and William Lane Craig's debate at Ohio State University 2016.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KMd_eS2J7o
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Liebnez & Samuel Clark's principles of sufficient reason.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sufficient-reason/
https://1000wordphilosophy.com/2018/03/27/leibnizs-principle-of-sufficient-reason/
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Red Pen Logic's fresh approach to “Can god make a rock so heavy...”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZxBXfbTaM
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Oxford Handbook essay on Molinism/
https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199935314.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780199935314-e-29
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Dr Craig's book “The Only Wise God”.
https://www.logos.com/product/62013/the-only-wise-god-the-compatibility-of-divine-foreknowledge-and-human-freedom
To our Blessed Listeners / “The Gathered,”
In this episode we had the opportunity to sit down and interview the magnificent ‘Vanessa Gatman;’ a Masters in Education (focusing on Health and Wellbeing), Author of the Book “I Quit Hating my Body so She could Love Hers” and Co-Founder of the Amazing Charitable Trust ‘You Are.’ On the last, she has been instrumental in the mentorship of now thousands of young women in Auckland and New Zealand, helping them to see their internal, beautiful self-worth and value as 'Imago Dei' in a culture that often depreciates it. Vanessa is an inspiring and engaging speaker, and holds a variety of roles where she speaks from that depth of wisdom and experience. We recommend the following links for reaching out to her:
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Her Book, seeking to encourage Mothers of Daughters to role model well: https://www.amazon.com/Quit-Hating-Body-Could-Love/dp/0473454904?fbclid=IwAR0XXVIGIQH16bVl4YN0P1S3rAZKu4m4dquDMbhyY-iJzkytWBbsR2Y3dGU
Her Stakeholder role with “You Are” Charitable Trust: https://www.youare.co.nz/?fbclid=IwAR2mMeJ-PjCwA9_yZvTgyFHGJh4wlogTG2oPi5l1ZjDrFUA5X9NdUXPkHBo
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzxQK2OyEEzN3SUkqGdqGJQ
The Amazing Daddy/Daughter Video mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7wwaHCvqok
Educationally, Kahui Ako Co-Leader and Middle Manager: Vanessa.Gatman@Kingsway.school.nz
Her own Personal Website: https://www.vanessagatman.com/?fbclid=IwAR0bE0TqqKoftXxjQehcTZMU19VQ61aSGklc4n_33GmhHyqif43LuDiWZCA
Additionally, we briefly mention 'Kathy Tolleston;' you can find her work here: http://www.kingdomlifenow.com/
We really hope you enjoy this introduction hearing from her, as she is a guest we would love to have back again to discuss ideas around Christ centered Body Image and Theology around Humans as integrally whole as Body, Mind and Spirit.
- C. & J.
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Hey Two's and Threes.
Today, we are joined by friend of the Podcast, Christine Welten.
In this episode, Christine shares her life story and testimony of God's incredible grace and mercy.
This is a tough episode to listen to as Christine has definitely been through the hard yards, but due to the grace of God, she is able to hold fast to the profession of her faith, because our Lord is faithful.
For more information about Christine, her various ministries or getting in touch, check out https://www.christinewelten.com/ and for her dream interpreting ministry, https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=what%20did%20i%20dream%3F
Hey "2s and 3s" In this episode, we seek to explore the ideology the important movement 'Black Lives Matter.' We also seek to explore the connections to Critical (Race) Theory, Cultural Marxism and Cancel Culture. Here for the sake of cultivating nuanced discussion, there are a variety of sources that present perspectives taking differing supportive/detracting perspectives of Critical Theory:
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US Stats on Police Brutality”
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/police-brutality-race-numbers/ http://copcrisis.com/ https://vittana.org/42-shocking-police-brutality-statistics
“Welcome to Babylon:” Jeremy Kendall, with guest Ethan Alolai - Critical Theory
https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/critical-theory-guest-ethan-aloiai-26-11-2020/id1535138695?i=1000500202224\
“What Happened in Vegas” 2017 Documentary on Las Vegas Police Corruption. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6615426/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
We unfortunately lost the source study for Caleb's referral to Maori interactions with the Criminal Justice system but here are some similar (and just as, if not, more) concerning figures.
https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2018/05/prisons/crime.html#/ https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/the-side-eye/28-06-2019/the-side-eye-the-receiving-end/?fbclid=IwAR25UVugwBddcMqJqhsnMyPsveKBJjcDbzMPO2tdHpyh0GQuaoqR0MteL8g https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/355487/maori-11-times-more-likely-to-face-prison-report
Unbelievable? Rasool Berry and Neil Shenvi - Are CRT and the Gospel incompatible? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbzPDoEgO_s&t=1s
Dr. Voddie Baucham Wretched - An extended conversation… on Social Justice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd1swytlzBg Founders Ministries -
Cultural Marxism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMFBdDDTkI&t=3212s Allie Beth Stuckley - Exposing and opposing Social Justice Theology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK4TT_6QDA8&t=3318s
Dr. Robin D’Angelo ( Author of “White Privilege”) - Tonight Show w Jimmy Fallon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZfiSjTHVqA
Debunking Myths about Race - Robin DiAngelo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO8qdwggIdI
Laytonicles - “White Fragility: What an Actual Black Person thinks:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sFdi5iZJ5Q
David Farrier - Webworm:
https://www.webworm.co/p/an-update-on-the-smug-maga-hat-wearing
https://www.webworm.co/p/meanwhile-in-new-zealand
https://www.webworm.co/p/an-open-letter-to-manukau-christian
The Liturgists Podcast:
Cancel Culture - https://theliturgists.com/podcast/2020/9/24/4yq2huvn4ywya70ty03x6ns0kygrr9
Howard Zinn’s “The People’s History of USA” (for a heck of a read, and J’s perspective on what is a thoughtful, necessary and challenging product of Standpoint Epistimology)
https://libcom.org/files/A%20People's%20History%20of%20the%20Unite%20-%20Howard%20Zinn.pdf
Prager U :Talib Starks (5 Biggest issues facing Black Americans);
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faolY5_hnIc
Whaddoyou Meme - John McCray - “Why Christians dont support BLM”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmY6me04BGM (Apologies for getting his name incorrect in the cast)
Allan Parr:
The Beat “Should the Church speak out on Social Justice Issues?” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_g8dnC1NvU
“Should Christians support Black Lives Matter?” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5U1li4QuIs
William Edward Du Bois - Sociologist, socialist, Historian, Civil Rights Activist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Du_Bois
Frankfurt School’s Herbert Marcusse - Repressive Tolerance:
https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publications/1960s/1965-repressive-tolerance-fulltext.html?fbclid=IwAR0GdvrRIuQHCtUudG0i18N5j11tnIytYgGP-rK9ily5c9hjIR1DDDvWws0
Hey all, thanks for watching/listening to another episode of Two or Three Gathered. See below for links to resources mentionedin the cast, if we've missed anything and you can't find it, let us know!
As always, your comments are welcome and encouraged!
Alissa Childers' Content:
https://www.alisachilders.com/- Alissa's blog, a lot of good reads.
https://www.alisachilders.com/blog/5-signs-your-church-might-be-heading-toward-progressive-christianity– 5 Signs blog mentioned by Jared.
Bad Christian Podcast/Emery:
https://www.emerymusic.com/-Emery the band, a great group.
https://www.badchristian.com/- The Bad Christian Podcast, started by members of Emery.
Rob Bell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2rklwkm_dQ– His famous talk, “Everything is Spiritual.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk75oxo2094– Rob Bell and Adrian Warnock on Justin Brierly's “Unbelievable”.
Richard Rohr's Content:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39028438-the-universal-christ– Rohr's Piece de Heresy, the Universal Christ.
https://cac.org/- Center for Action and Contemplation, a joint ministry of Rohr, Brian McLaren and others.
https://cac.org/about/what-is-contemplation/This is an especially telling link, including the links at the bottom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJBHoMJgqE– Video in which a priest introduces Rohr with “I gravitate to thinkers who make me free, Richard Rohr in his ministry has been making me free for 30 years.”
https://cac.org/substitutionary-atonement-2019-02-03/- Rohr on Substitutionary Atonement and his quote read by Caleb.
William Lane Craig:
https://www.reasonablefaith.org/podcasts/defenders-podcast-series-2/s2-doctrine-of-god-attributes-of-god/doctrine-of-god-part-17/- William Lane Craig on the question, “Can God make a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?”
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40735340-the-atonement– William Lane Craig's “The Atonement”
Others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye77xzelFZg&t=2394s– Link to Driscoll's sermon on the Progressive Church.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40874325-the-shack– William Paul Young's “The Shack”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland- “Flatland” by the unfortunately named Edwin Abbott Abbott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0_uvWKWoLo- “Precious Puritans” by Propogada.
https://bradjersak.com/- Brad Jersak's website.
Hey Blessed listeners,
In this episode we had the privilege of interviewing Ashley Church; NZ Property Expert/Consultant, Cultural Commentator and Joint-Director of the 'Israel Institute of New Zealand.' We had a fascinating conversation about Christians being successful in business, the Israel's Institute's role of addressing Anti Semitic bias in society/media/politics, and the ethics of principles pertaining to being a Christian with wealth.
Our intention is to bring him back in the future to discuss the controversies around the 'Israel Issue,' as well as the Property Problems facing NZ and how we as Christians can steward ownership well. With this cast serving to introduce him to our fanbase, we hope you enjoy this cast. We would love to hear what you think in the comments below! You can access the various links plugged throughout the cast below.
God bless,
C & J.
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The Israel Institute of NZ - Official Website: https://israelinstitute.nz/
Newstalk ZB Talkshow - The Weekend Collective (The OneRoof Radio Show): https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/t...
The NZ Herald - Searching for 'Ashley Church' (scroll through the pages below): https://www.nzherald.co.nz/search/Ash...
Ashley Church - His Blog and Website: https://ashleychurch.com/
Ashley Church - Linked In Bio : https://nz.linkedin.com/in/ashleychur...
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Hi “Twos and Threes”
Thanks for watching our chat on conspiracy theories. Below are some links for some of the topics mentioned, in no specific order
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlP...
Trump talking about the Trade Centre towers. He mentioned the architecture at about 5:15 onward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydro...
Some cool information about Dihidrogen Monoxide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNuKp...
Shane Dawson's playlist of conspiracy theories.
https://imgur.com/2vrk0yR
Miley Cyrus is dead conspiracy theory.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4736550/
The Great Hack
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/...
Vice – The movie.
https://www.amazon.com/Totalitaria-Wh...
Totaliaria – The book
https://daily.jstor.org/the-french-re...
French Revolutionary Conspiracies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baconia....
Baconian conspiracy theory.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473303/
Hitler survived the bunker Theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_a...
The Skull & Bones Club.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of...
The Book of Shadows (correction from Caleb, by GERALD Gardner – See the info about Aleister Crowley's potential input.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleiste...
Aleister Crowley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciento...
Scientology and it's occult roots.
https://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/bry...
Brian Singer's sexual assault allegations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic...
SRA.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10327526/
Filthy Rich Series.
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Hi “Twos and Threes”
Thanks for watching our chat on conspiracy theories. Below are some links for some of the topics mentioned, in no specific order
Part two is here:
https://youtu.be/Ni09gfhzBnw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlP...
Trump talking about the Trade Centre towers. He mentioned the architecture at about 5:15 onward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydro...
Some cool information about Dihidrogen Monoxide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNuKp...
Shane Dawson's playlist of conspiracy theories.
https://imgur.com/2vrk0yR
Miley Cyrus is dead conspiracy theory.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4736550/
The Great Hack
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/...
Vice – The movie.
https://www.amazon.com/Totalitaria-Wh...
Totaliaria – The book
https://daily.jstor.org/the-french-re...
French Revolutionary Conspiracies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baconia....
Baconian conspiracy theory.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473303/
Hitler survived the bunker Theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_a...
The Skull & Bones Club.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of...
The Book of Shadows (correction from Caleb, by GERALD Gardner – See the info about Aleister Crowley's potential input.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleiste...
Aleister Crowley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciento...
Scientology and it's occult roots.
https://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/bry...
Brian Singer's sexual assault allegations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic...
SRA.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10327526/
Filthy Rich Series.
Hey all.
In this episode, we discuss the scandal surrounding Ravi Zacharias’ sexual assaults.
Below is the link to the RZIM statement about the happenings, at the bottom of the page is a link to the Miller & Martin Investigation:
https://www.rzim.org/read/rzim-update...
Below are links to some of the articles/resources mentioned:
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Cover-Up in the Kingdom: Phone Sex, Lies, And God's Great Apologist, Ravi Zacharias - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...
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Christianity Today: 2017 report on initial findings/'allegations' -
https://www.christianitytoday.com/new...
- Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias - https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=...
Here are a couple other discussions on the topic we found to be insightful:
- Mike Winger- What Ravi did and where do we go from here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcWeZ...
- Acts 17 Apologetics- Making sense of the Ravi Scandal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArlP-...
Further, should you need to report abuse or seek help regarding sexual violence, please reach out using these links in our NZ Context. If you are aware of others in other locations globally, please let us know that we can update this:
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HELPAuckland: https://www.helpauckland.org.nz/
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Oranga Tamariki : https://www.orangatamariki.govt.nz/wo...
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NZ Police: https://www.police.govt.nz/advice-ser...
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Ministry of Health - Recognizing Abuse: https://www.health.govt.nz/your-healt...
Love to you all,
C & J.
Hey all! In this episode, we interviewed the wonderful Christine Welten. We have split this into a two-parter as there was just too much good discussion to be had! Please check out some of Christine’s MANY projects below and some of the resources mentioned in these two episodes.
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Christine’s website and blog - www.christinewelten.com
Christine’s online church: “The Invisible Body Church” - www.tibchurch.com
Equine-assisted mental health therapy - www.horsesrusnz.com
Christine’s Dream interpretation Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/Understandmy...
Secondary School relationship education programme - www.matesanddates.co.nz
Samuel Wells’ Improvisation: The Drama of Christian - Ethics.”https://www.amazon.com/Improvisation-...
Craig G. Bartholomew and Michael W. Goheen’s “The Drama of Scripture: Finding our Place in the Biblical Story” - https://www.amazon.com/Drama-Scriptur...
Thanks for watching, please let us know what you think below!
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Intro Music: Tell us by Robbero (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Robbero...
Outro Music: Shed by Shebbe (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Shebbe/...
Hey all! In this episode, we interviewed the wonderful Christine Welten. We have split this into a two parter as there was just too much good discussion to be had! Please check out some of Christine’s MANY projects below and some of the resources mentioned in these two episodes.
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Christine’s website and blog. - www.christinewelten.com
Christine’s online church: “The Invisible Body Church” - www.tibchurch.com
Equine-assisted mental health therapy - www.horsesrusnz.com Christine’s Dream interpretation Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/Understandmy...
Secondary School relationship education programme. - www.matesanddates.co.nz
Samuel Wells’ Improvisation: The Drama of Christian Ethics - https://www.amazon.com/Improvisation-...
Craig G. Bartholomew and Michael W. Goheen’s “The Drama of Scripture: Finding our Place in the Biblical Story” - https://www.amazon.com/Drama-Scriptur...
Thanks for watching, please let us know what you think below!
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Intro Music: Tell us by Robbero (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Robbero...
Outro Music: Shed by Shebbe (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Shebbe/...
Hi Blessed audience!
Thanks again so much for giving us your time and attention. These 2 Part partnered videos cover a really important issue concerning this election. So please, if you found what we had to say beneficial, please share with others to continue the conversation of how you will vote.
As with the prior video, we include here a series of links that enable you to continue researching for yourself. In the name of being balanced (as you can probably guess how we will vote), I have included some links to material presenting the other side of the discussion. If you find more, I'd love if you could reach out: Twoorthreegather@gmail.com
God bless you all,
- C & J
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The End of Life Choice Act 2019 - where you can read the actual Bill
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/pu...
NZ Medical Association - Euthanasia Report: https://www.nzma.org.nz/publications/...
The Government website on 'The Referendums:'
https://www.referendums.govt.nz/endof...
The 2019 Sponsor's Report - David Seymour reports on submission received during the review period, but his amendments are reasonably minimal:
2019 Sponsor’s Report: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...
The 'VOTESAFE.NZ Website' - The 1st time I did this, I got 5/10. The 2nd time with research, still only 8/10: https://www.votesafe.nz/quiz?fbclid=I...
The NZ“Yes for Compassion” Organization: https://yesforcompassion.org.nz/faqs/...
'DRS SAY NO' LETTER: https://doctorssayno.nz/
'DRS SAY YES' LETTER: https://cdn-flightdec.userfirst.co.nz...
Dr Scott Rae Biola University: “Ethics at the Edge – Death, Dying and Assisted Suicide”
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Xy5...
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEeUz...
Richard McCleod, spokesperson for ‘Lawyers for Vulnerable New Zealanders’: https://www.facebook.com/100407724952...
Knocking on Heaven’s Door – Sam Bloore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdd05...
Real Truth/Real Quick: How should a Christian view Physician-Assisted suicide? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfACx...
Laidlaw College Community- Filmed online conversations - End of Life (with Guests Dr John Fox and Danielle van Dalen): https://www.facebook.com/614751809/vi...
St Paul’s Auckland: “Big Issues – Euthanasia and the Right to Die:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY6V7...
Roman Catholic Justice, John T. Noonan:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/21/us...
An academically recorded speech by the man ( he was in the press during the judicial dealings concerning Jack Kervoack): https://scholarship.law.nd.edu/ndjlep...
“You don’t know Jack” – Movie about Jack Kerovak and his advocacy for Euthanasia: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132623/
Hi everybody, and thanks so much for giving us the privilege of your time and attention; we hope this is worthwhile to you! This is Part 1 of a 2 Part conversation looking at the Referenda up for vote in New Zealand's October Election; namely, whether to legislate for the use of recreational and commercial cannabis, and whether to allow physician assisted dying and euthanasia.
One thing Caleb and I both wish to stress is that we are not experts in these areas. We welcome fact checking and conversation on these important issues. But we do believe that what we present should enable you to come away with a greater sense of confidence in how you will vote later this month. Below, we list a series of links for you to see for yourself and hopefully start/continue your own journey in deciding how you will vote come election day God bless you all!
- J & C
Official Government Website: General information on what the government hopes to achieve with this bill and some basic run downs of the bill.
https://www.referendums.govt.nz/canna...
Official Government Website: Amendments to/details of the bill.
http://legislation.govt.nz/bill/membe...
Stuff.co.nz: Andrew Little being a knob. Plus I like that the speaker of the house told them to chill out during a debate on cannabis, maybe they should’ve smoked some of Aunty Paula’s choice “oregano”. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...
NZ Drug Foundation - 2007-2011 convictions information: https://www.drugfoundation.org.nz/mat...
Ministry of Justice - current convictions/charges statistics. Click the first pdf link to see what I was referencing: https://www.justice.govt.nz/justice-s...
Studies showing information from Colorado, Vermont and Washington state: https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_re...
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/mir...
https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/f...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
https://cdpsdocs.state.co.us/ors/docs...
Studies on cannabis potentially incresing the general use of cannabis. Tend to be a little mixed or inconclusive
Jontron - The Weird Worlds of PSAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B--f-...
Laidlaw College Community - Conversation with Aaron Ironside (Say Nope to Dope):
https://www.facebook.com/614751809/vi...
(If interested particularly in this clip, Email Jenny.Mackie@laidlaw.ac.nz for permission/access)
“TAKE THE DRUG TEST” - Survey for checking what you know about the Bill’s proposals:
https://www.thedrugtest.nz/?fbclid=Iw...
Official Government Website - The Cannabis Referendum:
https://www.referendums.govt.nz/canna...
Chloe Swarbrick of Green Party (Candidate for Auckland Central) interviews Helen Clark over the proposed Cannabis reform: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=952...
‘The Spinoff’ and ‘NZ on Air’ collabed to create this short infographic, shared by ‘The Buzzy Kiwi:’ https://www.facebook.com/thebuzzykiwi...
The APA describing the ‘Portugal Model’ for Drug harm and addiction reduction; a short search on Google using keyword such as ‘Portugal 2000s drug addictions’ should yield plenty of results: https://www.apa.org/monitor/2018/10/p...
https://academic.oup.com/bjc/article-...
More Information on what happened in Portugal.