Leadership for Sustainability: Recent Episodes
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Leading on sustainability for your organisation? Unsure where to focus? Struggling to get others involved? Wondering if you can really make a difference?
Join me, Osbert Lancaster, in our oasis of sanity amidst a world in turmoil. Each week I’ll take you through key insights and practical steps to help you develop and lead successful sustainability initiatives.
I draw on my 20+ years as sustainability coach, trainer and consultant and the experience of my Realise Earth co-founders Morag Watson, former senior policy officer, WWF, and Richard Profit, former senior sustainability manager, Pepsico.
Daniella Vega is Senior Vice President of Health and Sustainability with Ahold Delhaize, a Dutch-Belgian multinational retail and wholesale holding company.
Daniella talks with Osbert about this unusual role and the synergies between reducing emissions and improving health. She also talks about leading on Project Ocean, getting rid of single use plastic, as Group Director of Sustainability at the UK retailer Selfridge.
Listen for insights you can apply in your sustainability work including:
- The value of connecting sustainability with other issues that matter to your stakeholders.
- How making big bold moves can be more effective than starting with the easy stuff.
- How to look after yourself and keep going when things are tough.
You'll find all the links mentioned in this episode in the companion blog post here:
https://realise.earth/making-sustainability-something-people-care-about/
“It’s no longer sufficient to think about sustainability through the climate lens. The challenge and the exciting thing now is really grappling with the interconnectedness of the biodiversity crisis and the opportunity and necessity of the circular economy.”
In this episode I interview Sam Gardner, Head of Climate Change & Sustainability with Scottish Power, and formerly Head of Policy at WWF Scotland. In both these roles Sam has been closely involved in the climate and sustainability agenda in Scotland. In the conversation Sam talks about:
- The transformation of Scottish Power from oil and gas to entirely renewable energy sources.
- The importance of continuous engagement with staff and stakeholders, ensuring everyone in the organisation connects their work to climate goals.
- The need for a fair transition to net zero, and to deliver on biodiversity and the circular economy.
Listen for great insights into the challenges of accelerating the pace of change while bringing colleagues with you, maintaining public support and ensuring a just a transition.
Sam also talks about how he has kept motivated over many years of working on sustainability, offering useful ideas we can all apply ourselves and with our colleagues.
You'll find the links mentioned in this episode in the companion blog post here: https://realise.earth/grappling-with-climate-biodiversity-circular-economy-and-a-just-transition/
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How do you get started as a brand new sustainability manager? Libby Kerman stepped into the newly created role of sustainability manager with Lincolnshire Housing Partnership just a year after university. Now, two years on, she reflects on what she’s achieved and learned.
Libby talks about:
- the achievements she’s most proud of
- who and what helped her succeed
- tackling her next big task: sustainability reporting
Listen for ideas and inspiration to help you make greater progress on sustainability:
- why you sometimes learn most from people who resist change
- how relationships with colleagues across the business have been crucial
- how external networks of peers are so important
- why you shouldn’t worry that you don’t have all the answers
- podcasts that Libby has found useful on her journey
You'll find all the links mentioned in this episode in the companion blog post here:
https://realise.earth/how-to-succeed-as-a-new-sustainability-manager/
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Being a trusted (but not tame) sustainability leader
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Courage is identified by the Inner Development Goals as one the key skills needed to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals.
It takes courage to go against the flow. It takes courage to say things others don't want to hear. It takes courage to innovate and do things differently.
That’s why, if you’re leading on sustainability, you need courage to make genuine progress.
We recently brought together a number of sustainability leaders to discuss courage in their work – in construction, healthcare, engineering, public service, education and more.
Listen now for powerful insights and practical advice that you can apply to be a more courageous and effective sustainability leader.
Looking for support?If you’re wrestling with any challenges as a sustainability leader we might be able to help. Find out how at https://realise.earth/services
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👉 Unlock Employee Action on Sustainability with the Most Sustainable Workplace Index
Join us for a webinar with Jaime Blakeley-Glover, creator of the Most Sustainable Workplace Index, and learn how the Index helps you tap into and unlock most employees’ latent motivation to transform your sustainability initiatives – Wed 22 May.
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At Realise Earth we’ve always been focused on helping sustainability leaders build support for, and catalyse action on, sustainability across their organisation. A challenge is how to do this at scale.
That’s why we’ve now partnered with the Most Sustainable Workplace Index which can help you do just that.
I recently sat down with Jaime Blakeley-Glover, creator of the Index, to hear his story. Listen to learn:
- Why Jaime believed the Index needed to exist
- The challenges Jaime faced and how he overcame them
- The importance of seriously shifting the culture in organisations
Whether or not the Index is relevant to you and your work, in itself this a fascinating story of sustainability leadership.
You'll find contact details and other links mentioned in this episode in the companion blog post here:
https://realise.earth/how-do-you-develop-a-sustainability-culture/
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Unlock Employee Action on Sustainability with the Most Sustainable Workplace Index
Join us for a webinar with Jaime Blakeley-Glover, creator of the Most Sustainable Workplace Index, and learn how the Index helps you tap into and unlock most employees’ latent motivation to transform your sustainability initiatives – Wed 22 May.
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Climate is only one of the planetary boundaries we need to work on. And we also need to tackle a whole range of social issues.
That's why item four and our sustainability leadership manifesto is: "develop and deliver initiatives that offer multiple benefits for people and nature".
In this Roundtable event, our guests, sustainability leaders across a variety of sectors, reflect on their experience of trying to move the agenda beyond net zero in their work.
Listen for insights from the sharp end about how to help colleagues to see the bigger picture and start engaging with the rest of the sustainable development goals.
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👉 Being a courageous sustainability leader | Roundtable
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In this Roundtable event, our guests are:
- Sandrine Ricard, Deputy Director Sustainability & Responsibility with Pernod Ricard in the UK
- Michael Solomon, Founder of Responsible 100
- Sarah-Jane Littleford, Head of Responsible Business: Global Delivery with Fujitsu
These sustainability leaders reflect on their experience of collaboration:
- in their organisations
- across their industry
- and when bringing businesses and NGOs together.
Listen now for valuable insights to help you collaborate better in your sustainability work.
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Collaboration is essential to making greater progress on sustainability – within organisations and supply chains, across sectors – and across society globally.
This is recognised by the UN Sustainable Development Goal 17 ‘Partnership for the Goals’, and Collaboration is one of the five dimensions identified by the Inner Development Goals as essential to achieving the SDGs.
And the fifth call to action in our sustainability leadership manifesto for 2024 is “Seek out opportunities to collaborate and cooperate”.
Identifying the need is one thing, doing something about it is another.
To prepare for this episode I sat down with Morag and Rich, my Realise Earth co-founders, to discuss how we could draw on our collective experience to offer you some really useful guidance on collaboration.
Here’s what we came up with:
- First I talk about what we mean by collaboration in the context of sustainability leadership
- Then I get into the skills required for successful collaboration and the characteristics of effective teams
- Finally I explore the nitty gritty of collaborating better, ending with specific actions you can start taking tomorrow – whatever your current experience.
You'll find all the links mentioned in this episode in the companion blog post: https://realise.earth/better-collaboration-for-better-sustainability-leadership-heres-how/
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What kind of approach to sustainability leadership do we need in 2024?
In this Roundtable event, our guests reflect on their experience as sustainability leaders and give feedback on the draft sustainability leadership manifesto that Osbert talked about in the last episode.
The topics discussed include:
- Deeply listening to understand people's needs
- Embedding care in the sustainability agenda
- Building a culture of sustainability leadership across the organisation
- Getting beyond a carbon tunnel vision to a just transition
- The need to create collaborative spaces to drive forward positive change.
Listen now for valuable insights, encouragement and hope.
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👉 Being a courageous sustainability leader | Roundtable
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In the last year or so we’ve seen a slew of reports about the state of the environment showing that we’re close to, or perhaps have already gone beyond, the point of no return with climate change and several other planetary boundaries.
It’s genuinely scary stuff, and it sometimes floors me.
And yet, other reports show real progress and suggest that we’re in with a chance of tackling the climate and nature crises. We have the technology, but what’s holding us back is social and cultural change.
I’m deeply worried by false and naive optimism, but I genuinely believe success is possible. But only if, as sustainability leaders, we adapt and evolve our approach.
Here's what I cover in this episode:
- A review of the state of the climate and nature crises
- Why this means we need a new approach to sustainability leadership
- Nine things do we sustainability leaders need to do differently in 2024.
If you're overwhelmed or confused by the conflicting signals about the climate and nature crises, or are simply looking for ways to make more progress on sustainability in these difficult times, we've got some practical suggestions for you.
You'll find all the links mentioned in this episode in the companion blog post here…
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"How do we transition to net zero and build up the renewables we need in a way that respects our planetary boundaries and the natural world?"
"How do you create a circular economy and break the link between business growth and resource use?"
Kate Wallace Lockhart is head of sustainability with SSE Renewables, and in this episode she talks about working with businesses across the sector to create a circular economy for the entire wind industry.
We discuss the factors which have been important the successful development of the Coalition for Wind Industry Circularity – and I draw out some lessons to help sustainability leaders looking to develop circular economy initiatives in their industries.
Read the full show notes with links to resources at https://realise.earth/119
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👉 Being a courageous sustainability leader | Roundtable
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"You also need a theory of change. If you haven't understood what the big thing is you're trying to achieve, and you haven't understood how you are going to achieve that thing, then you have no theory of change and you're not going to achieve it."
Bob Gordon told me that when he started out as Head of Sustainability with Nando’s in the UK he didn’t really have a theory of change.
Bob’s now Director of Zero Carbon Forum, and has a very clear theory of change to support the hospitality sector to reduce, and then eliminate, their carbon footprin
In this interview Bob shares some of his story on that journey, and offers some really solid advice for sustainability directors and managers who want to get results and make a real difference, even at a time when businesses are facing acute commercial pressures.
Read the full show notes with links to resources at http://realise.earth/118
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Discover how Dee made the case for a global sustainability strategy, created Deluxe's first global sustainability role, and then developed and delivered their first sustainability strategy.
Deluxe Media & Entertainment is a leading media services company with over 4,500 people across the world.
Dee talks with Leadership for Sustainability host, Osbert Lancaster, about:
- Moving from localised CSR to a global sustainability strategy
- Making the business case to leadership groups, again and again
- Finding the right approach for different people
- Building a network to make change happen
- Getting into the detail of climate risk
- Pulling together a team for climate risk assessment
And much more…
For full show notes visit realise.earth/117
Run a workshop that encourages colleagues and stakeholders to be actively involved in your sustainability initiative.
- How to plan and facilitate a workshop that builds collaboraton
- What are good activities? How to get people engaged?
- Some top tips inspired by our workshop for the Coalition for Wind Industry Circularity
We recently facilitated a workshop for the Coalition for Wind Industry Circularity. Afterwards a number of participants and asked for advice about the exercises we used and how to design and facilitate something similar.
We decided to answer those requests by recording this episode as a 'case story' to share not just the particular activities we used, but also some of the principles behind them, and the thought process that informed our plans.
Full guide and show notes at https://realise.earth/116
Adam Liddle, Head of Sustainability, RoslinCT, on creating a sustainability strategy in an industry, life sciences, that is completely new to him.
- Niche specialist scientific services
- Creating a sustainability strategy in a new industry
- Strategic thinking & practical problem solving to address sustainability
- Creating an internal sustainability awards scheme
- We’re not far away from sustainability being part of the culture
- Don’t come in as though you think you know it all
Full show notes at https://realise.earth/115
Relating sustainability to people's interests and concerns, and to organisational values and culture, is crucial for engagement. Here's why it's so important, with case stories from our experience, and practical guidance on how to put this into practice in your organisation.
Full guide at realise.earth/114
This is part 2 of our interview with Alan Hendry, Sustainability Director at Mott MacDonald
Osbert and Morag discuss what we heard to pull out important insights and offer 10 practical opportunities for action inspired by the interview – with a particular focus on collaboration.
Full show notes at https://realise.earth/113
Alan Hendry, Sustainability Director, Mott MacDonald, a global technical services firm, on supporting colleagues make their services more sustainable.
Show notes at realise.earth/112
Not all of us are sustainability directors of a global finance house like Tobi Petrocelli who Osbert interviewed in Part 1.
So, for this post, Part 2, Osbert and Morag got together to discuss the interview, and to pull out some insights and recommendations that are relevant to everyone leading sustainability, whatever their organisation.
Full show notes at realise.earth/111
In the first of our new interview series, I talk with Tobi Petrocelli, at MUFG, Japan's largest, and the world's fourth largest, bank.
Tobi is Head of Sustainability & Transition Finance Strategy at MUFG Americas.
She offers fascinating insights into the world of funding the transition to a net zero economy – but what really struck me was not just her lifelong passion for sustainability, but also the ways in which she has engaged colleagues across the bank, unleashing their skills and energy in support of sustainability.
Show notes at realise.earth/110
How do you develop the key skills that you and your team need to create change, build relationships and bring people with you when you are leading on sustainability in your organisation?
In this guide Richard Profit summarises what the key skills are, and how you can go about developing them, whether you are just starting out or building on success.
You'll find the show notes with highlights and useful resources at https://realise.earth/109
What are the key skills that you need to create change, build relationships and bring people with you, when you are leading on sustainability in your organisation?
Richard Profit talks about these essential skills, drawing on his research into sustainability leadership at Ashridge, his years leading on sustainability at PepsiCo, and the Inner Development Goals – the key skills and mindsets needed to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals.
Full show notes and links to resources at http://realise.earth/108
What are the characteristics of a great sustainability team? Rich Profit shares his experience as a senior sustainability manager with Pepsico, the world's second largest food and beverage company.
Show notes at https://realise.earth/107
We talk you through exactly how to prepare and delivery of a workshop with your board, senior managers or other colleagues, that will lay the foundations for the success of your sustainability initiative.
Detailed show notes - https://realise.earth/106
Support from directors and senior managers is essential to maximise the success of your sustainability initiative. Osbert shares how he does this in consulting projects, and then takes you through the specific steps so you can apply this experience yourself.
Show notes here: realise.earth/105
Discover how to talk with colleagues about sustainability in ways that make it more likely they’ll be interested and engaged, and be more open to supporting your sustainability strategy or initiative as collaborators or allies.
Including lessons Osbert learned the hard way!
Full show notes at realise.earth/104
Osbert Lancaster explains how you can get potential collaborators and allies for your sustainability initiative interested and engaged by using the most powerful motivator - emotion. (And debunks the objections to this approach).
Show notes with links to resources mentioned, at realise.earth/103
Have you ever talked with colleagues about why it’s a good idea for your organisation to do more about sustainability only to be met with disinterest or even hostility?
In this episode Osbert Lancaster takes you through two approaches to building support for your initiative – and explains why you should focus on just one of them.
Find the show notes at realise.earth/102
In this very first episode, we explain why building support from colleagues and stakeholders is so important to the success of your sustainability initiative or strategy.
Find the show notes at realise.earth/101
Have you ever talked with colleagues about why it’s a good idea for your organisation to do more about sustainability only to be met with disinterest or even hostility?
In this episode Osbert Lancaster takes you through two approaches to building support for your initiative – and explains why you should focus on just one of them.
Find the show notes at https://realise.earth/102
Osbert Lancaster explains how you can get potential collaborators and allies for your sustainability initiative interested and engaged by using the most powerful motivator - emotion. (And debunks the objections to this approach).
Show notes, with links to resources mentioned, at https://realise.earth/103
In this very first episode, we explain why building support from colleagues and stakeholders is so important to the success of your sustainability initiative or strategy.
Find the show notes at https://realise.earth/101
Meet your host, Osbert Lancaster, and discover more about the Leadership for Sustainability podcast and what to expect each week.