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In this video, Kevin and I break down the Be Helpful phase of the 5Bs Go-To-Market framework, the second step in building a B2B demand generation engine that actually works.
We cover:
→ Why helpful content beats hype content every time and how it builds real trust with your dream customers
→ The "nobody got fired for hiring IBM" problem and why buyers stick with the status quo
→ How to extract content from subject matter experts without wasting their time
→ Matching your content format to each stage of the funnel, from top to bottom
→ Using the five stages of awareness framework to map content to where buyers actually are
If you are a B2B marketer or founder pumping out hype content instead of building trust, this episode is for you.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why demand generation is about solving real problems, not interrupting with hype
→ How to run quick 15 to 20 minute expert interviews that give you gold mine insights
→ The right content formats for top, mid, and bottom of the funnel
→ How to map content to the five stages of awareness, from unaware to most aware
→ Why content is your most scalable trust building asset, not just a traffic tool
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro and the Be Helpful framework
0:45 Why helpful content beats hype content
1:40 Nobody got fired for hiring IBM
3:00 HubSpot as a trust-building example
4:15 Extracting content from subject matter experts
6:30 Matching content format to the funnel
8:00 Repurposing webinars and pillar content
9:30 The five stages of awareness framework
12:30 Content as a trust-building tool
14:00 Key takeaways and recap
S08 E41 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #demandgen #gotomarket #b2bsaas #marketingstrategy #icp #contentmarketing #revenuegrowth
In this video, Kevin and I break down the Be Ready phase of the 5Bs Go-To-Market framework, the first and most critical step in building a B2B demand generation engine that actually works.
We cover:
→ Why deeply understanding your market is non-negotiable before any messaging or content goes out
→ The 80/20 analysis for identifying the top 20% of customers driving 80% of your results
→ How to run five to ten high value customer interviews the scrappy way, even on a small team
→ Cataloging your market to know who is in market, who is out of market, and who is with who
→ Segmenting down for precision so your content and campaigns feel one to one even at scale
If you are a B2B marketer or founder relying on guesswork or third party personas instead of real buyer insights, this episode is for you.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why demand generation only works when it is rooted in real customer insights, not assumptions
→ How to find and prioritize your dream customers using the 80/20 rule
→ The right open ended questions to ask in customer interviews to uncover pain points and triggers
→ How cataloging your market gives sales and marketing a shared playbook
→ How niching down by triggers, roles, and use cases sharpens your outreach and messaging
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro and why messaging needs deep customer understanding
0:49 Why Be Ready is the non-negotiable first step
2:05 The 80/20 analysis to find your dream customers
3:35 Running effective customer interviews
6:18 Cataloging your market and target accounts
7:59 Niching down through segmentation
9:59 Key takeaways and recap
S08 E40 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #demandgen #gotomarket #b2bsaas #marketingstrategy #icp #contentmarketing #revenuegrowth
B2B Go To Market Strategy: Why Your Lead Gen Is Broken
Your lead gen program is filling a CRM and burning your market at the same time.
In episode one of The 15 Minute GTM Fix, a miniseries with our friends at Dealfront, George Coudounaris and Kevin Chen break down why so many B2B go to market programs quietly fail. If you run marketing in a small team and you are stuck firefighting instead of building, this one is for you.
We pull apart the gated ebook play every marketer gets asked to run, why it destroys buyer trust before sales ever picks up the phone, and what to do instead. Then we walk through the Five BEs framework - the flywheel we use to move a go to market motion from reactive chaos to something that scales.
Tune in and learn:
Why traditional lead gen produces MQLs that never convert
What 95% of your market is doing while you chase the other 5%
The difference between capturing demand and shaping future demand
How brand marketing and demand marketing work together
The five stages of the BEs framework and how they compound
If you are a marketer in a small B2B team being asked for leads with no time, no budget, and no strategy behind it, start here.
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00:00 95% of Your Market Is Not Ready to Buy
00:32 Welcome to the 15 Minute GTM Fix
01:00 Why Lead Gen Is Broken in B2B Right Now
01:20 Vanity Metrics and MQLs That Never Convert
01:40 The Sales and Marketing Tension Nobody Fixes
01:55 How Lead Gen Burns Your Own Market
02:10 The Gated Ebook Play Every Marketer Gets Asked to Run
02:35 What Happens When Sales Calls a Cold Ebook Download
02:50 The Playbook That Keeps Destroying Buyer Trust
03:05 Capturing Demand vs Shaping Future Demand
03:25 Only 5% of Buyers Are In Market Today
03:45 The Five Stages of Awareness Explained
04:00 Brand Marketing vs Demand Marketing
04:30 Why Holistic B2B Marketing Needs Both
05:00 The Chaos Small Marketing Teams Live In
05:30 Reactive Marketing Is Killing Your Pipeline
06:00 Why Fundamentals Beat Tactics Every Time
06:30 Five BEs Framework: Be Ready
07:00 Be Helpful - Earning Trust With Content
07:30 Be Seen - Amplifying to Your Dream Customers
08:00 Be Better - Optimising With Data
08:20 Be the Best - Future-Proofing Your Strategy
08:40 Why Every Great Framework Is a Flywheel
09:00 What to Expect From This Miniseries
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S08 E239 - The B2B Playbook
In this video, I sit down with rev ops expert Pasha and Adem to unpack why revenue is really an architecture problem, not a sales problem. We get into cutting through the AI noise, why your CRM ends up as a record of optimism, and what it actually takes to get sales, marketing, and success working as one unit.
We cover:
→ Why the hardest part of rev ops today is separating what's real from the AI hype
→ How stacking tools and methodologies on a broken operating system only compounds the mess
→ Why your CRM fills up with inflated pipeline and deals that advance on optimism
→ How misaligned incentives pull sales, marketing and success in different directions
→ The simple cataloging questions most teams still never ask their buyers
If you are a founder, rev ops leader or B2B marketer drowning in tools and dashboards but still can't get clean data or a straight answer on which accounts are actually in market.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why revenue is an architecture problem and what that changes about how you build your systems
→ Where AI genuinely helps in the sales motion and where it just makes better spam
→ How to spot the difference between real alignment and another meeting that changes nothing
→ Why marketing was never equipped to decide who's in market, and who should own it instead
→ Practical, bite size AI use cases that actually move the needle without a 90th operating system
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Timestamps:
00:00 Cutting Through The AI Noise Without Losing The Plot
00:55 Welcome Back: Rev Ops With Pasha Irshad
02:48 The Hardest Thing About Rev Ops Right Now
06:03 Chasing Tools Versus The Business Fundamentals
07:47 Why Revenue Is An Architecture Problem, Not A Sales Problem
09:33 Rev Ops Full Circle: Back To Commercial Management
14:24 Why Reps Default To Broken Habits Under Pressure
17:14 How Misaligned Incentives Break Sales And Marketing
20:41 Can Rev Ops Actually Fix This Or Just Champion It
32:22 One Source Of Truth That Everyone Muddies
36:12 Who Really Owns Deciding If An Account Is In Market
42:29 What It Takes To Get Back To Human Conversations
49:00 Cool Things Built With Claude Code And AI
52:36 Wrap Up And Thanks
S08 E38 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #revops #revenueoperations #gotomarket #b2bsaas #gtmengineering #crm #hubspot #demandgeneration
In this episode, Kevin and George break down their entire Five BE's framework for B2B marketing and demand generation, recorded live in studio. It's the system we came up with over 200 episodes ago, and we put it through the test of time to see what still holds up.
We cover:
→ The 95/5 rule and why talking to the 95% out of market matters as much as the 5% ready to buy
→ Be Ready: deeply understanding your dream customers and documenting your ICP, not just your TAM
→ Be Helpful: building trust with helpful content that makes you the obvious choice when buyers are in market
→ Be Seen: deliberate distribution across one to many, one to few and 1 to 1 channels
→ Be Better and Be the Best: optimising your processes, revenue alignment and building a flywheel
If you are a B2B marketer or founder on a small, lean team who's tired of random acts of marketing and wants one practical framework to run demand gen without getting lost in the weeds.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why 95% of your market isn't ready to buy today, and how to influence them before they are
→ How to niche down on your ICP and turn customer interviews into messaging and content
→ Why the person delivering the message is now just as important as the message itself
→ How to pick the right channels based on where your buyers actually hang out and who they trust
→ How Revenue Alignment Architecture breaks down the silos between sales, marketing and CS
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Timestamps:
00:00 Why Not Everyone Is In Market To Buy
00:46 Welcome Back: The Five B's Framework Live In Studio
01:30 What The Five B's Framework Is And Why It Matters
03:47 The 95/5 Rule Grounded In A Real Example
05:28 Be Ready: Deeply Understanding Your Dream Customers
08:57 Be Helpful: Building Trust With Helpful Content
12:00 Making Your Product The Obvious Conclusion
13:03 Subject Matter Experts And Repurposing Content
16:05 Be Seen: Deliberate Distribution That Works
18:05 One To Many, One To Few And 1 To 1
22:26 Be Better: Optimising Your Processes
24:43 Revenue Alignment Architecture With Sales And CS
27:57 Be The Best: Building The Flywheel And Advanced Tactics
30:29 Does The Framework Hold Up? Key Takeaways
31:37 Wrap Up And Thanks
S08 E237 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #demandgen #gotomarket #b2bsaas #marketingstrategy #icp #contentmarketing #revenuegrowth
In this video, Sam from Breaking B2B and I get into what B2B SEO and AI search actually look like in 2026, and how you can pull pipeline in just 90 days without overcomplicating the whole thing.
We cover:
→ Why doing SEO and AI search alone makes life way harder, especially for higher ticket B2B
→ How buyers now search inside LLMs with their exact persona, problem, company size and budget
→ Why positioning and controlling your own narrative matters more now than it ever did
→ The page structures that get snapped up by AI search, like TLDRs, why trust us sections and tables
→ Backlinks, brand mentions and value exchanges, plus what listicle placements actually cost
If you are a B2B marketer or founder who's tired of panicking about AI search and wants a clear, no nonsense way to show up in ChatGPT, Claude and Google when buyers are ready to buy.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why your own website should be your foundation before chasing backlinks and PR
→ How to nail every way someone searches for your offer when they're in the buying window
→ Why hiding your pricing lets Reddit tell your story for you, and what to do instead
→ How to land top listicle placements through value exchanges, not just pay to play
→ What entry level versus aggressive SEO campaigns look like, and where humans still beat AI
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Timestamps:
00:00 Why You Shouldn't Do SEO and AI Search Alone
02:00 Welcome Back to The B2B Playbook
02:54 What Sam Had to Revise About SEO
05:05 SEO vs GEO vs AIO: What Do We Call It Now?
05:49 How Buyers Search Inside LLMs
08:33 Why Positioning and Controlling Your Narrative Matters
10:18 Nailing Money Keywords and Search Intent
13:30 Building Pages AI Will Actually Pull From
21:00 Backlinks, Brand Mentions and Value Exchanges
24:28 What a Listicle Placement Costs
39:00 Mining Sales Calls for Bottom of Funnel Keywords
43:06 SEO Tiers: Entry Level vs Aggressive
44:32 Human Content vs AI and Keeping a Human in the Loop
S08 E236 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #b2bseo #aisearch #seoforsaas #b2bsaas #demandgeneration #gotomarket #geo #digitalmarketing
In this video, Kevin and I get into whether you actually need flashy AI-powered analytics to measure your B2B marketing, or whether some clear objectives and a simple spreadsheet will do the job just fine.
We cover:
→ Why another dashboard, AI-powered or not, was never the silver bullet for growing your business
→ The data problem in B2B marketing and why so many metrics are just vanity metrics
→ Our practical framework for getting insights without expensive tools
→ How to tier your ICP and tailor your reporting to match each tier's play
→ Where AI genuinely helps, especially when you're sifting through loads of qualitative data
If you are a B2B marketer or founder who's tired of drowning in flashy dashboards and wants a simpler, clearer way to measure what actually drives revenue.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why clarity beats complexity and what questions to nail down before you buy any AI tool
→ How to revisit your ICP and segment accounts into tiers that shape your reporting
→ How to track a handful of meaningful metrics instead of drowning in data
→ How to use AI and Claude to pull together messy qualitative data and surface real patterns
→ Why holistic measurement that links marketing to revenue matters more than any tool
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Timestamps:
00:00 Do You Really Need AI Analytics for B2B Marketing?
00:53 Welcome Back to The B2B Playbook
01:48 The Five B's Framework Explained
03:02 Why This Matters: Tight Budgets, AI Hype and Uneven Maturity
08:51 Start With Your Objectives and Ideal Customer
10:45 Segmenting Your ICP Into Tiers
14:28 Matching Your Measurement to Your Plays
17:46 A Real Client Example With Claude
19:57 Where AI Actually Helps Your Analysis
23:16 Key Takeaways: Clarity Beats Complexity
S08 E234 - The B2B Playbook
In this video, we sit down with Brian Williams from Hockey Stick Advisory to break down how B2B companies can actually build partnerships into a real revenue channel, not just a logo wall.
We cover:
→ Why partnerships needs to be a top down strategic decision, not a side experiment
→ The foundations most companies are missing before they even hire a partnerships manager
→ How to pick the right partners using a capacity, commitment, mutual customers and capability matrix
→ Why partnerships takes a two year cycle and how to set realistic expectations with your leadership team
→ How AI is changing the way partnership ops and rev ops teams work together
If you are a B2B marketer, CRO or founder who knows partnerships should be part of your growth mix but has no idea how to actually build it out properly.
Tune in and learn:
→ How to align your whole leadership team on what partnerships is and what it isn't
→ How to validate your partner categories before you activate anything
→ What a mutual success plan looks like and how to operationalize partners like a sales team
→ Why referral leads close faster and how to make that engine predictable
→ How to build a line of sight to partnerships ROI that your CFO and CRO will actually get behind
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Timestamps:
00:00 Why Partnerships Is a Real Revenue Channel
00:48 Meet Brian Williams from Hockey Stick Advisory
01:47 How the Partnerships Landscape Has Shifted
03:05 The Foundations Most Companies Are Missing
06:30 Why Partnerships Has to Be a Genuine Exchange
07:51 Are You Actually Partnerships Ready?
09:47 How to Identify the Right Partners
13:18 The Biggest CRO Blocker With Partnerships
16:10 How AI Is Changing Partnerships
19:06 Why Partnerships Managers Burn Out Early
22:04 The Two Year Cycle Explained
24:02 When Partnerships Doesn't Work
25:26 The Big Hire Mistake to Avoid
28:26 The Partnership Revenue Gap Calculator
31:53 Where to Find Brian and Hockey Stick Advisory
S08 E233 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #partnerships #b2bsaas #partnermarketing #ecosystemledgrowth #gotommarket #channelpartners #digitalmarketing
In this episode, we break down why B2B marketing attribution is broken and what you should actually be doing instead to measure what's working without losing your mind.
We cover:
→ Why multi-touch attribution keeps lying to you and what it's actually measuring
→ Why ad platforms are deliberately making attribution harder for us as marketers
→ How to blend quantitative and qualitative data to get a real picture of what's driving revenue
→ Why being data influenced beats being data driven every single time
If you are a B2B marketer or demand gen lead who's tired of attribution tools that promise clarity and just deliver more confusion.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why multi-touch attribution is click obsessed and built on disappearing data
→ How to layer in marketing mix modeling and incremental testing without drowning in complexity
→ Why qualitative signals like "how did you hear about us" are more valuable than most attribution tools
→ How to communicate attribution as a range, not a definitive number, to your leadership team
→ How to align sales, CS and finance on what attribution can and can't tell you
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Timestamps:
00:00 Why Attribution Keeps Lying to You
00:50 Welcome + Season 8 Overview
01:56 The Five B's Framework Explained
02:54 Why B2B Attribution Is So Much Harder Than B2C
04:08 The Real Problems With Multi-Touch Attribution
07:35 Why Privacy Changes Are Making This Worse
08:32 Attribution Software Is Just Repackaged Last Click
09:55 How Long B2B Cycles Break Attribution Models
10:56 The Blended Measurement Framework
17:10 Why Qualitative Signals Are Your Most Honest Data
18:57 How to Communicate Attribution Uncertainty to Leadership
20:56 Don't Overpromise on Attribution Internally
23:30 Why Industry Benchmarks Are Mostly Useless
25:37 Key Takeaways
27:06 Final Thoughts and Where to Learn More
S08 E234 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we break down category entry points and how to use LinkedIn ads to plant your brand in buyers minds way before they're even ready to buy.
We cover:
→ What category entry points actually are and why they matter for B2B demand gen
→ Why LinkedIn ads is such a strong fit for targeting these key buyer moments
→ Real examples of category entry points you can build campaigns around
→ If you are a B2B marketer trying to build pipeline and stay top of mind with your ICP before they enter market.
Tune in and learn:
→ How to identify the moments that trigger buyers into market
→ How to use LinkedIn ads targeting to reach the right people at the right time
→ Why cataloging your market beats relying on intent data platforms
→ How to turn category entry points into ad creative and thought leadership content
🔗 Links + CTAs
🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course
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Timestamps:
00:00 Why Category Entry Points Change How You Advertise
00:01 What the Five B's Framework Is
00:04 Category Entry Points Defined
00:05 Why LinkedIn Ads Fits So Well for B2B
00:08 How to Use ICP Lists and Thermographic Targeting
00:12 How Long Demand Gen Actually Takes
00:14 Saturation, Frequency and the 95/5 Rule
00:19 Category Entry Point 1: Contract Renewals
00:23 Why Cataloging Beats Signal Sensing Platforms
00:26 Category Entry Point 2: Growing Pains and New Hires
00:29 Category Entry Point 3: Slowing Growth Rate
00:31 Real World Example: The Will Smith Slap Ad
00:33 You Don't Have to Dream Up Category Entry Points
00:34 How Entry Points Become Ad Creative and Content
00:35 Key Takeaways
S08 E232 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #leadgeneration #digitalmarketing
In this video, I sit down with B2B YouTube specialist Samu Kovács to break down why YouTube is one of the most underrated and untapped channels in B2B right now.
We cover:
→ Why YouTube beats LinkedIn for cutting through the noise in B2B
→ How to rank your videos and attract your exact ICP without needing thousands of views
→ The YouTube-first content strategy that actually drives inbound leads and pipeline
→ How to convert views into booked calls with the right CTAs
If you are a B2B marketer or founder looking for a channel that builds trust, drives pipeline, and compounds over time.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why 300 views from your ICP beats 30,000 random views
→ How search-based YouTube content creates evergreen traffic for years
→ What actually makes a video rank (hint: it is not the tags)
→ How to turn YouTube into your number one lead gen channel
🔗 Links + CTAs
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Timestamps:
00:00 Why YouTube Is the Most Underrated B2B Channel Right Now
00:02 Introducing Samu Kovács, B2B YouTube Specialist
00:04 How Samu Got Started and Why He Went All In on B2B YouTube
00:06 Why LinkedIn Is Getting Crowded and What YouTube Offers Instead
00:12 Why 300 Views From Your ICP Beats 30,000 Random Views
00:14 How to Build a YouTube Strategy That Actually Drives Inbound
00:20 Search vs Algorithm: Which Should B2B Companies Prioritize
00:21 What Actually Makes a YouTube Video Rank (It Is Not the Tags)
00:24 Podcast Format vs YouTube-First Videos: What Performs Better
00:44 Will AI Kill YouTube? Why Storytelling Is the New Moat
00:46 How to Make Your Content Impossible to Replicate
00:47 How to Convert YouTube Views Into Booked Calls and Leads
00:49 Where to Find Samu and Learn More
S08 E231 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #leadgeneration #digitalmarketing
In this video, I sit down with Georgia Watson, a 21-year IBM veteran, and Adem Manderovic to dig into why sales enablement keeps failing even when companies are spending big on it.
We cover:
→ Why strategy is rarely the problem but execution almost always is
→ What revenue enablement actually means and why most orgs get it wrong
→ The real reason AI pilots fail 95% of the time
→ Why human skills like trust, storytelling and value articulation still win deals
If you're a sales leader, revenue leader or marketer wondering why your sellers still struggle to have commercial conversations despite all the investment you're making in them.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why tools and training alone don't move the needle
→ How incentives and measurement drive the wrong behaviours
→ What world class enablement actually looks like in practice
→ Why the best sellers win 88% of the time no matter what they're handed
🔗 Links + CTAs
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Timestamps:
00:00 Why Revenue Performance Is an Execution Problem
00:07 Georgia Watson's 21 Years at IBM
00:12 What Revenue Enablement Actually Is
00:20 The 7-Part Enablement Framework
00:25 Why AI Pilots Fail 95% of the Time
00:31 Human Skills AI Can't Replace
00:38 Incentives, Measurement and Broken Pipeline Reviews
00:45 What World Class Enablement Really Looks Like
00:51 Where Most Enablement Programs Hit Their Ceiling
S08 E230 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #leadgeneration #digitalmarketing
In this episode, we break down how to actually measure brand impact without overcomplicating it, including the leading indicators lean B2B teams should track before pipeline shows up.
We cover:
→ Why leading indicators matter more than lagging ones early on
→ What early brand signals actually look like in practice
→ Why qualitative data and self-reported attribution is so powerful
→ A simple list of brand metrics lean teams should focus on
If you are a B2B marketer trying to justify your brand investment to leadership or figure out if your demand gen is actually working before revenue shows up.
Tune in and learn:
→ The difference between leading and lagging brand metrics
→ What signals to watch for before pipeline materializes
→ Why qualitative beats quantitative for brand measurement in B2B
→ How to build a simple brand scorecard without bloated dashboards
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Timestamps:
00:00 How to Measure Brand Without Overcomplicating It
00:01 Why B2B Teams Struggle to Measure Brand Impact
00:02 The Five B's Framework Refresher
00:03 Definitions: Leading vs Lagging Brand Indicators
00:07 Why Brand Programs Get Killed Too Early
00:07 What Early Brand Signals Actually Look Like
00:09 ICP Engagement as a Brand Signal
00:10 Self-Reported Attribution and How Did You Hear About Us
00:12 Sales Feedback as an Early Brand Signal
00:13 Category Entry Points and Customer Interviews
00:14 Why Qualitative Data Beats Quantitative in B2B
00:16 Self-Reported Attribution in the Age of AI
00:19 Why Ad Platforms Are Giving Advertisers Less Control
00:20 Simple Brand Metrics for Lean Teams
00:23 Share of Search as a Brand Metric
00:24 Key Takeaways: What to Track and Why
S08 E229 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #leadgeneration #digitalmarketing
Most B2B marketers think demand generation and lead generation are the same thing.
They’re not.
And confusing the two is exactly why your pipeline isn’t growing.
In this episode, we break down the real difference between demand generation vs lead generation — and why most teams are stuck running a system that creates activity, not revenue.
We walk through the 5 BE’s Framework and show how to shift from chasing leads to building real demand in your market.
Tune in and learn:
→ Why lead generation breaks at scale
→ How demand generation actually builds pipeline
→ What most teams get wrong about the 95/5 rule
If you’re under pressure to generate more leads but know something isn’t working, this will change how you approach marketing.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Demand Generation vs Lead Generation: Why This Debate Matters
00:03 The Real Problem: It’s Not Tactics, It’s Sequencing
00:05 Lead Generation Explained (And Why It Breaks)
00:07 Why Sales Hates Lead Gen (And They’re Right)
00:09 The “Leaky Bucket” Problem in B2B Marketing
00:11 Why Lead Gen Becomes Financially Unsustainable
00:12 Why Demand Capture Alone Doesn’t Scale
00:14 The 95/5 Rule That Changes Everything
00:16 Why Buyers Ignore You (Even If You’re Better)
00:18 Demand Generation Explained (What It Actually Means)
00:20 The 5 B’s Framework: A Better System
00:23 Category Entry Points: The Missing Link
00:25 Why “Cataloguing” Beats Intent Data
00:29 How Sales & Marketing Became Misaligned
00:30 Building Trust Before Buyers Are Ready
00:33 Why Most Content Doesn’t Work
00:34 Distribution: The Difference Between Seen vs Ignored
00:36 LinkedIn Strategy That Drives Real Demand
00:40 Case Study: From $50K to $200K/Month
00:43 Measuring Demand Gen (Without Last Click Bias)
00:44 Revenue Alignment: The Missing System
00:46 How to Build a Competitive Advantage
00:48 Where to Start (Without Breaking Everything)
00:50 Balancing Demand Gen vs Lead Gen in Reality
00:53 AI Won’t Replace This Skill
00:57 How Long Demand Gen Actually Takes
S08 E228 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #leadgeneration #digitalmarketing
In this video, I break down AI visibility and GEO vs traditional SEO, and whether any of it actually changes how B2B teams should go to market.
We cover:
→ What AEO and GEO actually mean and how they differ from traditional SEO
→ Why the Five B's framework still holds up in the age of AI
→ Why "be helpful" content is now more important than ever
→ 3 practical things to do instead of chasing AI visibility hacks
If you are a B2B founder, marketer, or sales leader trying to figure out if AI search changes your content strategy or if the fundamentals still apply, this episode is for you.
Tune in and learn:
✅ Why AI doesn't replace your go-to-market playbook, it just raises the bar on being helpful
✅ How to tighten your positioning so AI chatbots actually cite your brand
✅ Why niche, question-led content wins in AI interfaces
✅ How partnerships and trust signals drive distribution in the AI era
✅ A bonus tip on using Bing's AI performance reporting for Copilot visibility
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Does AI change the B2B playbook?
01:11 - Intro and what we're covering today
01:56 - Quick recap of the Five B's framework
03:04 - Does AI visibility change anything?
07:37 - Why being helpful matters more than ever
08:40 - The context shift in buyer discovery
12:35 - Why helpful content gets picked up by AI
13:42 - Be helpful is the main event
15:27 - The bar for content is getting lower
18:18 - Three things to do instead of chasing AI hacks
21:52 - Practical examples using the five stages of awareness
24:35 - Distribution and earning trust signals
27:25 - Low hanging fruit: partnerships
28:08 - Bonus: Bing's AI performance reporting
29:00 - Key takeaways
30:33 - Outro
S08 E227 - The B2B Playbook #aivisibility #seo #b2bmarketing
Closed Loop Sales Strategy: Why Most B2B Teams Are Getting It Wrong
Most B2B teams are still chasing meetings, pipeline, and MQLs—without ever understanding if a buyer is actually ready to buy.
In this episode, we join Kieran Longhurst to break down the Closed Circuit Selling Strategy —why traditional sales models are failing, and how to fix them.
We unpack how sales should really work, why booking meetings is the wrong goal, and how cataloguing your market creates a feedback loop across marketing, sales, product, and leadership.
This isn’t about selling harder. It’s about building a system that aligns with how buyers actually make decisions.
Tune in and learn:
If you’re a B2B marketer or revenue leader trying to drive real pipeline—not just activity—this episode will completely change how you think about sales.
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01:00 The 95% Problem: Why You’re Only Talking to Buyers
02:00 The Real Sales Mindset (That No One Teaches)
03:00 Why “Sell Me This Pen” Is the Wrong Model
05:00 Architecture vs Tactics: The Core Shift
07:00 Why Relationship Building Is Misunderstood
09:00 What Sales Actually Is (And Why Most Get It Wrong)
11:00 The Hidden Cost of Booking Bad Meetings
13:00 The Cataloguing Method Explained
15:00 Why Most Sales Teams Waste 90% of Their Effort
18:00 How to Use Sales as Real Market Research
20:00 The Feedback Loop That Fixes Marketing
23:00 Why Founders Forget How They Originally Sold
27:00 The Death of the “Scale Fast” Sales Model
30:00 Human Selling vs Automated Outreach
33:00 How to Actually Get Buyers to Share Information
38:00 Real Examples: Closing Enterprise Deals with LinkedIn
45:00 Why MQLs Destroy Marketing Teams
50:00 The Smartest Prospecting Tactic We’ve Seen
55:00 AI, Search, and the Future of Sales
59:00 Final Takeaways: Rapport Over Relationships
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S8 E226 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #demandgeneration #outboundsales
Is Account-Based Marketing Worth It? (Most Teams Get This Wrong)
Most B2B teams jump into ABM without asking the one question that actually matters: should you even be doing it?
In this episode, we break down what account-based marketing really is, where it fits in your go-to-market strategy, and why most ABM efforts fail before they even start.
We go beyond theory and show you the practical decisions you need to make, including how to define your target list, why deal size changes everything, and why “cataloguing the market” is the missing piece most teams ignore.
Tune in and learn:
When ABM actually works (and when it doesn’t)
Why most teams waste money targeting the wrong accounts
How to use cataloguing to stop guessing and start closing
If you’re a B2B marketer trying to drive real pipeline, not just activity, this is a must-watch.
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00:00 Why Everyone Is Talking About ABM (But Few Get It Right)
00:35 The Big Question: Should You Even Do ABM?
01:10 Why Most B2B Marketing Still Feels Like “Spray and Pray”
01:30 The Hidden Truth: ABM = Disciplined Go-To-Market
02:00 Why Weak Targeting Kills Your Positioning
02:30 When ABM Actually Makes Sense (And When It Doesn’t)
03:00 What ABM Really Is (And What It Isn’t)
04:00 The 3 Decisions You Must Make Before Doing ABM
05:00 Step 1: Define Your Objective
06:00 Why Most Teams Skip Proper Target Lists
07:00 The ICP Trap
08:00 When Your TAM Is Too Small for Paid Ads
09:00 The Real ABM Filter: Deal Size
10:00 Why ABM Fails for Low-Value Products
11:00 Step 2: The Missing Piece – Cataloguing
12:00 Why Marketing Can’t Guess Who’s In-Market
13:00 The 95/5 Reality
14:00 The Contract Problem That Kills Deals
15:00 Real Example: Why Campaigns Fail
16:00 How Cataloguing Changes Everything
17:00 Why Your TAM Might Be Wrong
18:00 Step 3: Not Everything Should Be ABM
19:00 Running ABM + Broad Marketing Together
20:00 Enterprise vs SME
21:00 Why Over-Personalised Ads Don’t Work
22:00 What Actually Works: Real Conversations
23:00 The Problem With AI Personalisation
24:00 Why Buyers Don’t Share Pain Publicly
25:00 The Final Answer: Is ABM Worth It?
26:00 The 3 Rules for Deciding
27:00 Final Takeaways
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S08 E2255 - The B2B Playbook
Most B2B marketers run LinkedIn ads… but never turn them into real pipeline.
In this video, I break down the exact LinkedIn Ads strategy we used to help a B2B agency client go from zero to $185k a month in just 22 months.
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I cover ICP targeting, Thought Leadership Ads, scaling beyond the founder's personal brand, and the feedback loops that keep the whole thing growing.
If you are a B2B founder or marketer trying to figure out how to use LinkedIn Ads to stay top of mind with the right buyers and actually turn that into booked calls and revenue, this video is for you.
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Timestamps:
00:00 How LinkedIn Ads Helped Scale to $185K/Month
01:30 Step 1: Get Brutally Clear on Your ICP
04:00 Step 2: Using Thought Leadership Ads to Grow
09:30 Step 3: Scaling Beyond the Founder Brand
12:00 Step 4: Optimisation & Feedback Loops
14:10 Step 5: Most Buyers Aren’t Ready Yet
S08 E224 - The B2B Playbook
In this video, we break down what OpenAI's new ChatGPT ads mean for B2B marketers, and why it's probably not the performance channel you should be betting on in 2026.
We cover:
→ The background behind OpenAI's push into advertising and why they're starting with B2C
→ Why ChatGPT ads are unlikely to impact B2B marketing anytime soon (ad-free business/enterprise tiers, limited tracking, shopping-focused formats)
→ How buyer discovery is shifting from search + social toward AI assistants
→ Our 3-point framework (based on the Five B's) to prepare your B2B marketing for the age of LLMs
If you are a B2B founder or marketer wondering whether you should be spending on ChatGPT ads, or trying to figure out how to get your brand surfaced in AI-driven search results, this episode is for you.
Tune in and learn:
✅ Why the fundamentals of trust-building and demand gen matter more than ever
✅ How to tighten your ICP messaging so LLMs actually surface your brand
✅ The content and distribution strategies that build organic visibility in ChatGPT
✅ How to set up measurement and UTM practices now so you're ready when B2B ads do arrive
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:40 - What's happening with ChatGPT ads
03:54 - Does AI make the Five B's Framework obsolete?
07:06 - Why ChatGPT ads won't help B2B marketers yet
13:49 - B2C vs B2B: Why OpenAI is targeting consumers first
15:49 - The Five B's still stand the test of time
16:00 - 3-point framework to prepare for ChatGPT ads
16:08 - Step 1: Be Ready - tighten your ICP and messaging
19:27 - Why LLM context makes ICP clarity even more critical
20:42 - Step 2: Be Helpful - build trust with content at scale
23:46 - Growth is about people, not platforms
24:31 - Step 3: Be Seen - measurement, distribution, and experimentation 27:41 - Practical action points and repurposing strategy
30:00 - Key takeaways and recap
31:17 - Outro
S08 E222 - The B2B Playbook
If you're competing against companies with massive marketing budgets, paid ads alone won’t win.
In this episode of The B2B Playbook, we sit down with Alex Bedwani, founder of PetsOnMe, to unpack how he built growth using a B2B2C marketing strategy instead of competing head-to-head in B2C channels.
In industries like insurance, the biggest brands dominate paid channels. They can outspend you on ads, outbid you on keywords, and convert better because people already trust them.
So Alex took a different path.
Instead of competing directly, he built partnerships with associations and corporations to distribute pet insurance to their employees and members.
We break down exactly how the B2B2C strategy works, how to land partnerships, and how to activate them so they actually generate revenue.
Tune in and learn:
Why competing head-on in B2C markets is often a losing game
How to use partnerships as a distribution channel
The activation tactics that turn partnerships into real revenue
If you're a founder or marketer trying to grow in a competitive category, this episode will change how you think about distribution.
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00:00 Why Small Brands Lose in Paid Acquisition
00:35 Competing Against Big Insurance Brands
02:00 Why Alex Started PetsOnMe
03:30 The Hidden Monopoly in Pet Insurance
05:30 Why B2C Marketing Was Impossible to Win
07:00 The Real Cost Advantage Big Brands Have
09:00 The Pivot: Discovering the B2B2C Marketing Strategy
10:00 What B2B2C Looks Like in Practice
12:50 Turning Pet Insurance Into an Employee Benefit
15:00 Finding the Right Corporate Partners
17:00 Why Signing the Partnership Is Only 10% of the Work
19:00 The Key to Getting HR Managers Interested
20:50 The Fitness First Example of B2B2C Growth
22:00 How to Stay Top of Mind With Corporate Partners
24:00 The 3-Way Win That Makes B2B2C Work
26:00 The Due Diligence Corporates Will Do On You
28:00 Activating Members After the Partnership Is Signed
29:00 Creative Activation: The Cutest Dog Competition
31:00 Why Data Is Harder in B2B2C Partnerships
33:00 Using Events and Talks to Drive Signups
35:00 Why Face-to-Face Still Converts Best
36:30 Personalised Marketing That Converts
39:00 Managing 70+ Partnerships Without Chaos
40:00 When to Kill a Partnership Quickly
42:00 The Most Important Rule in B2B2C Partnerships
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S08 E222 - The B2B Playbook
If you’ve ever struggled to defend brand budget in a performance-obsessed company — this episode is for you.
We sat down with Matt Maynard, VP of Brand Advertising & Comms at Asana, to break down how brand actually drives growth — and how to measure it properly inside a B2B business.
This isn’t theory. It’s a practical framework for small teams trying to prove brand works.
We unpack:
Why brand keeps losing to performance
Why “consideration” is usually measured wrong
How to use Category Entry Points (CEPs)
The 95:5 rule explained simply
And how to measure mental availability without a massive budget
Tune in and learn:
Why growth is driven by memory, not persuasion
The 3 brand metrics every B2B team should track
How to turn brand into a performance engine
If you’re in a B2B team trying to punch above your weight, this is mandatory viewing.
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00:00 Why Brand Keeps Losing Budget in B2B
02:10 Brand vs Performance: Vibes vs System
04:00 Why Finance Doesn’t Fund “Brand”
07:10 The Science Behind How Brands Actually Grow
10:00 Brand = Memory (Not Campaigns)
12:30 Why Loyalty & Word of Mouth Don’t Drive Growth
14:00 What Are Category Entry Points (CEPs)?
17:00 Why Small Brands Grow Slower
20:30 How to Measure Brand Properly in B2B
25:00 Breaking Consideration Into 3 Metrics
30:00 Measuring Brand Without a Big Budget
31:40 The 95:5 Rule Explained
34:00 Brand Lift vs Vanity Metrics
36:00 Brand & Performance Aren’t Enemies
37:40 What Brand Teams Should Report
41:10 Protecting Consistency
43:00 The 3 Jobs of Brand Marketing
44:50 How Small Teams Can Start Today
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S08 E221 - The B2B Playbook
In this video, we dive into why B2B partnerships are one of the most powerful (and underused) growth strategies in 2026, and how to get your first one off the ground.
We cover:
Why partnerships act as a trust shortcut with your target audience, how rising paid media costs (up ~14% per year) are making partnerships more essential than ever, and the exact 4-step framework to land your first B2B partnership.
If you are a B2B marketer or founder struggling with rising customer acquisition costs and want a more affordable, high-trust way to reach your ideal customers.
Tune in and learn:
Why partnerships transfer trust from aligned brands to your audience
How overlapping ICPs make partnerships more effective than cold outreach
Why AI-generated content is making owned audiences even more valuable
The importance of executive buy-in and clear KPIs to make partnerships stick
Brian's #1 tip: don't go for the big fish first. Start with complementary, similarly-sized partners
The 4-step action framework: identify, shortlist (top 3–5), reach out, and go deep
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Timestamps:
00:00 – Why partnerships are a trust shortcut
00:56 – Welcome to Season 8 (first in-person recording!)
02:14 – The Five Bs Framework recap
10:52 – Why noise is getting worse (and what to do about it)
12:18 – The real-life analogy: partnerships as personal introductions
14:24 – Rising paid media costs & the 14% CAC benchmark
16:14 – How partnerships help share distribution costs
18:08 – Why AI makes trust-based channels even more important
20:04 – Key ingredients: overlapping ICP & give-and-get relationships
24:22 – Getting executive buy-in & setting clear KPIs
26:13 – The fastest way to kill a partnership
29:14 – The 4-step action framework to get started this week
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S08 E220 - The B2B Playbook
Revenue leaders don’t trust their pipeline anymore.
In this episode, we sit down with Phil Cleary – 20+ year Salesforce veteran and co-lead of the Revenue Enablement Society – to unpack what’s really happening inside revenue teams right now.
We break down why forecasts are slipping, why pipeline feels fabricated, and why traditional sales training isn’t fixing behaviour.
This is a deep dive into revenue enablement strategy at the leadership level.
We cover:
Why buyers are frozen (FOBO from FOMO)
The 2x2 coaching model every sales leader should use
Why “software with a service” is the future of SaaS
How behaviour, identity, and mindset drive real adoption
Why you are your calendar
If you lead sales, marketing, or revenue teams – this conversation will challenge how you think about enablement.
Tune in and learn:
How to fix forecast uncertainty
How to build behaviour-led performance
How to align revenue teams around real commercial oversight
If you care about predictable revenue, commercial common sense, and long-term alignment – this one’s essential.
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00:00 Why Revenue Leaders Are Losing Confidence in Their Forecast
04:40 FOMO vs FOBO: Why Buyers Are Frozen
08:10 Is Your Pipeline Fake?
11:20 Revenue Retention Is Changing Sales Behaviour
14:00 Why Commercial Handover Is Broken
16:20 The Smash-and-Grab Sales Problem
19:50 The 2x2 Coaching Framework
22:30 Toxic High Performers
25:00 What Good Behaviour Looks Like
29:30 Why Training Fails
31:00 The Kirkpatrick Model
33:10 Specialisation in Sales Teams
36:10 Thinking Like a Franchise Owner
39:40 You Are Your Calendar
42:10 Growth Mindset in Revenue Teams
48:20 SaaS vs Software With a Service
54:30 Crossing the Chasm
01:00:10 Revenue Enablement Society
01:04:00 The Art and Science of Leadership
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S08 E219 - The B2B Playbook
Most B2B content looks polished. But almost none of it gets remembered.
In this episode, we break down why humour isn’t a creative risk in B2B.
It’s a strategic advantage.
We’re joined by Luke Winter, founder of Deadpan and one of the few people proving that B2B marketing with humour drives memory, brand lift, and real revenue.
Luke shares how a single funny B2B video generated over $300K in sales, why AI-generated content is creating sameness, and how brands can use comedy frameworks to stand out without needing a massive budget.
We also unpack:
Why most B2B brands confuse looking professional with being effective
The science behind entertaining ads and higher conversion rates
How to turn real customer pain points into memorable content
Five practical frameworks to generate funny B2B ideas
How to build a sitcom-style content series for your brand
How to get CEO buy-in without calling it “comedy”
Tune in and learn:
Why humour works better than features in B2B
How to create distinctive brand memory in a world of AI slop
How to apply comedy without damaging credibility
If you’re a B2B marketer trying to stand out, build trust, and stop blending in, this episode is essential.
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00:00 Why Humour Is a Smart B2B Brand Strategy
01:10 Why B2B Comedy Is Untapped
02:00 AI vs Memorability
03:20 Why Corporate Videos Fail
04:10 The Video That Changed Everything
06:00 From 234 Views to $300K
07:00 The Showmanship Era
08:10 Why B2B Content Gets Ignored
09:10 Showmanship vs Salesmanship
10:00 Turning Pain into Comedy
11:30 The Data Behind Funny Ads
13:00 Why Humour Isn’t Risky
15:00 The Customer Is the Hero
16:40 Comedy Frameworks
20:20 Comedic Displacement
23:20 Opposites in Comedy
26:00 Metaphors That Work
28:00 Parody and Associations
31:40 Testing with Memes
34:30 Sitcom-Style B2B Content
36:50 Getting CEO Buy-In
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S08 E218 - The B2B Playbook
Most small B2B teams know product marketing matters.
Very few know how to make it work without specialists or big budgets.
In this episode, we’re joined by Kayla Medica, creator of the Medica Method, to break down how product marketing actually works inside lean B2B teams.
We unpack what breaks when no one owns product marketing, how to align product, sales, and leadership around one story, and why pricing is just as much a product marketing problem as it is a commercial one.
Kayla also explains why most B2B personas fail, how to build real feedback loops with sales, and how small teams can punch above their weight without burning out.
Tune in and learn:
How product marketing really works in small B2B teams
What product marketers should say no to (and when)
Why pricing and positioning are inseparable
If you’re in a small B2B team trying to create consistency between marketing, sales, and product, this episode is a must-watch.
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00:00 Why Product Marketing Breaks in Small Teams
02:10 What Happens When No One Owns Product Marketing
04:16 Product Marketing Explained
05:23 The Medica Method
07:46 Why Small Teams Can’t Pause Work
09:11 Who Product Marketing Aligns With
10:52 Executive Buy-In
12:00 Net-New vs Expansion Growth
14:15 Product Marketing Boundaries
17:50 Fixing Sales Feedback Loops
23:50 Why B2B Personas Fail
29:50 Pricing as Product Marketing
35:40 Showing Pricing on Your Website
38:40 Taylor Swift Pricing Lessons
42:30 Status Signalling in B2B
46:00 Product Marketing as a Career
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S08 E217 - The B2B Playbook
Most B2B teams rely on founder energy – until it stops working.
In this episode, we sit down with Adam Holmgren, CEO and co-founder of Fibber, to break down how founder-led marketing actually works – and why it hits a ceiling faster than most teams expect.
Adam walks us through how he turned his personal LinkedIn presence into early traction, why founder-only growth stalled after the first 50 customers, and how he built a system that blends founder trust with brand memory.
This is a practical breakdown of a modern founder-led marketing strategy – without fluff, vanity metrics, or burnout.
Tune in and learn:
Why people buy from founders before they buy products
How to scale founder content beyond personal reach
Why Thought Leadership Ads work – and where they fall short
How brand memory unlocks the next stage of growth
If you’re a B2B marketer or founder trying to turn visibility into pipeline, this episode shows how to bridge founder energy into a real brand engine.
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00:00 Why good content dies without distribution
01:00 Why founders are the strongest distribution engine
02:20 Meet Adam Holmgren and the Fibber story
03:40 How B2B buyers actually make decisions
05:00 Why SaaS competition forces founder-led marketing
06:30 Posting before you even have a product
07:50 How Adam launched with built-in trust
09:00 The ceiling of founder-led growth
10:30 Why founder reach eventually stalls
11:45 The brand trust problem no one talks about
13:00 Founder-led marketing is not enough
14:10 Adam’s founder brand framework explained
17:00 Using Thought Leader Ads to break out of your network
18:40 Why Thought Leader Ads fail to build brand
20:00 The Pink Lion and brand memory
27:40 The four engines of growth
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S08 E216 - The B2B Playbook
B2B Brand Strategy for Enterprise Sales: How Brand Opens Doors Marketing Can’tMost B2B marketing never reaches enterprise decision-makers.This episode shows why brand is the bridge sales actually needs.In this session from our Full Circle conference, we’re joined by Ari Yablok, Head of Brand at Island.Ari breaks down how brand becomes the permission slip that lets sales into rooms traditional marketing can’t access.We unpack why enterprise executives ignore most marketing, why big promises backfire, and how positioning, personality, and story create trust before the first sales call.This isn’t about logos or colours.It’s about building a B2B brand strategy that makes enterprise buyers lean in instead of tune out. Tune in and learn:+ Why enterprise buyers are sceptical by default+ How brand positioning creates real differentiation+ How story and personality shorten sales cycles If you’re selling to senior decision-makers and struggling to get attention, this episode shows why brand isn’t optional.It’s the door-opener. -----------------------------------------------------🔗 Links + CTAs-----------------------------------------------------🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency-----------------------------------------------------SUBSCRIBE to our channel: / @theb2bplaybook SUBSCRIBE to our newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletterGET the latest CONTENT: https://theb2bplaybook.com/-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Why Brand Opens Doors Sales Can’t01:20 Why Enterprise Executives Ignore Marketing03:50 The Real Cost of Selling Software Internally06:10 Why Generic Messaging Fails08:20 The Hidden Risk Buyers See10:40 Why Features Don’t Convince13:10 Brand as Infrastructure15:30 Positioning Sweet Spot17:40 Why SaaS Positioning Sounds the Same19:50 Great vs Generic AI Examples21:50 Brand Personality as a Moat24:10 Archetypes That Differentiate26:10 Storytelling That Creates Order29:10 How Buyers Really Decide31:50 Island Brand Case Study36:40 Relevance That Resonates39:10 Thought Leadership That Pre-Sells40:40 Trust Signals That Shorten Sales Cycles43:00 Brand for Small Teams -----------------------------------------------------👥 Are you a B2B marketer in a small team??💰 Need to bring in more revenue for your company (so sales and your boss love you??)Get the:🔹 strategy🔹 templates🔹 toolsSo you have everything you need to drive more revenue for your brand.See why other B2B marketers like you love The B2B IncubatorCheck out: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-courseS08 E215 - The B2B Playbook#b2b #b2bmarketing #brandstrategy #enterprisesales #demandgeneration
Most B2B content fails because it isn’t built on a strategy.
In this episode of The B2B Playbook, we break down a practical B2B content strategy framework and explain why most content gets created, published, and forgotten.
We unpack why “adding value” isn’t enough, why engagement metrics are misleading, and how to anchor your content to a clear point of view so it actually supports revenue.
We also share the 3-question Point of View framework we teach inside The B2B Incubator, and explain how your content should naturally lead to your product or service without burning trust.
Tune in and learn:
Why most B2B content strategies fail
How to anchor content to a clear point of view
How to make your product the logical conclusion of your c
If you’re a small B2B marketing team under pressure to deliver pipeline, this framework will help you stop wasting effort and start compounding impact.
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00:00 Why Most B2B Content Fails
00:31 What This B2B Content Strategy Framework Solves
01:10 The 5 Bs Framework Explained
02:00 Content for Content’s Sake Is the Real Issue
03:10 The Pressure That Breaks B2B Content
04:30 Why “Add Value” Isn’t a Strategy
05:40 Engagement Without Memory Is Wasted
06:10 Lead Gen vs Demand Gen Content
07:10 Should You Chase High-Volume Topics?
08:05 The 95% of Buyers Most Content Ignores
09:20 What a Real Content Strategy Should Do
10:00 Making Your Product the Logical Conclusion
11:00 Why Random AI Content Breaks Strategy
12:20 When Content Doesn’t Have to Sell
13:30 The 3-Question POV Framework
15:00 Challenging Broken B2B Assumptions
16:30 Why Timing Matters to Your ICP
17:30 Mapping POV to the 5 Stages of Awareness
18:40 The One Rule Every B2B Content Strategy Needs
19:10 Turning Content Into a Growth Engine
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S07 E214 - The B2B Playbook
Closed Circuit Selling: Why the Funnel Is Breaking Your GTM
Most go-to-market teams aren’t failing on effort. They’re failing on architecture.
In this episode, we sit down with Charles Needham (co-author of Cold Call Algo) alongside Adem Manderovic (CRO School) to break down why the linear funnel is the biggest sacred cow in sales, and why Closed Circuit Selling is the better model for modern outbound.
We unpack incentives, silos, CAC payback insanity, and why “meetings booked” became a broken religion. Then we get practical. How to run outbound as market learning. How to capture timing signals. And how to build feedback loops that actually make marketing, sales, and customer success stronger together.
Tune in and learn:
Why buyer journeys are non-linear, and funnels create blind spots
How to shift from meetings quotas to conversation-driven market validation
Why intent data can’t replace first-party conversations
If you’re a B2B marketer or revenue leader, this is the blueprint for building a GTM system that compounds instead of churns.
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00:00 The “Sacred Cow”: Why the Linear Funnel Breaks Reality
01:00 Who’s Charles Needham (And Why He Thinks Like a Quant)
04:30 From Mortgage Bonds to CRMs: Seeing Sales as a Database
07:00 The Moment He Realised “Meetings Booked” Is a Trap
09:10 Closed Loop Continuity vs Funnel Checklists
11:40 What Silos Destroy: Feedback Loops That Never Make It Back
14:10 CAC Payback Madness: When “Growth” Becomes Insanity
17:10 The Conversations Model: Comp People for Learning, Not Meetings
20:05 Predictable Revenue Misread: “Market Development” Got Lost
21:00 VC Algebra vs Real Buyers: “The Customer Doesn’t Exist”
28:10 The 2008 Analogy: Incentives Create Fragile Systems
32:20 Intent Data Hot Take: “Or You Could Call Them”
36:00 The Guitar Demo: What “Cataloguing” Really Means
39:00 “Talk to Everybody”: The Outbound Belief Most CROs Don’t Hold
41:45 Fixing the Root: Change Comp, or Nothing Changes
48:10 Market Validation vs Cataloguing: The Language Problem
56:35 AI Didn’t Fix Outbound. It Scaled the Spam Cannon
59:30 What Works Next: Follow the Underpriced Channel (Then Move)
1:06:00 Cold Call Algo: The “Unplanned Communication” Thesis
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S07 E213 - The B2B Playbook
Why Sales & Marketing Broke (And How to Rebuild a Modern Revenue System) ft. Tony J Hughes
Most teams feel the symptoms — pipeline gaps, misaligned targets, MQL chaos, sellers chasing “now or never” deals.
But those are signals of a deeper problem: the revenue system itself is broken.
In this episode, we sit down with Tony J Hughes and Adem Manderovic to unpack why sales and marketing drifted apart… and how to rebuild a modern revenue system that actually matches how buyers make decisions today.
We get into:
We also talk ICP, cataloguing, air cover, performance gaps, and Tony’s new book Sentient — plus what AI means for the future of selling.
Tune in and learn:
If you’re a B2B marketer or sales leader stuck in the old predictable-revenue logic, this episode is your blueprint for rebuilding alignment and revenue performance from the ground up.
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00:00 Why sales & marketing broke
01:02 Where misalignment actually began
03:10 Why inbound intent pushes sellers into a red ocean
06:20 How sales used to validate the market (and why it matters)
08:45 The ICP framework sales & marketing should share
11:15 Turning sales discovery into marketing air cover
13:55 How MQL targets fractured GTM
17:20 Cataloguing: foundation of a modern revenue system
20:05 Why frontline sales leadership is the weakest link
23:40 When sales & marketing target different lists
27:05 When to run a sales-led vs marketing-led motion
31:40 Talk to more of the market (not just in-market buyers)
34:05 Why feature-selling kills deals
38:35 RSVP vs BANT: a smarter way to qualify
42:10 What CMOs actually respond to in outreach
46:15 Adem’s journey to Closed Circuit Selling
50:05 Tony’s research: AI, AGI & the future of selling
53:40 Why every seller becomes a cyborg
55:05 Where to find Tony J Hughes
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S07 E212 - The B2B Playbook
The Simple 3-Step B2B Demand Generation Strategy for 2026
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Most B2B teams will roll the same demand gen plan into 2026… and wonder why pipeline is flat.
In this episode, we walk through a B2B demand generation strategy for 2026 that small teams can actually run – and that’s proven to drive up to 70% of pipeline.
We break down our 3-step framework – Be Ready, Be Helpful, Be Seen – and show how it ties into the 95-5 rule, the 5 stages of awareness, and a simple cataloguing process that finally connects marketing and sales. If you’re a small in-house team under pressure to bring in revenue, this is for you.
We also show you exactly how we run this B2B demand generation strategy ourselves at The B2B Playbook – from 80/20 analysis and ICP documentation, to a weekly content engine and a realistic distribution mix that fits into 4–5 hours per week.
Tune in and learn:
How to design a B2B demand generation strategy for 2026 using the 95-5 rule
How to run 80/20 analysis, customer interviews, and cataloguing to define a sharp ICP
How to build a helpful content engine and distribution plan that your small team can maintain
This episode is a must-watch if you’re a B2B marketer in a small team who’s tired of chasing MQLs, arguing over lead quality, and getting stuck in “support” mode.
You’ll walk away with a clear, 3-step demand gen strategy for 2026 that aligns marketing, sales, and customer success around how buyers actually make decisions.
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00:00 The Simple 3-Step B2B Demand Generation Strategy for 2026
00:34 Our 5 BEs Framework – The Flywheel Behind Demand Gen
02:05 Updated: What Demand Generation Really Is in 2026
03:40 Why You Can’t “Force” B2B Buyers to Buy (Unlike B2C)
05:55 The Messy, Non-Linear B2B Buying Journey (Squiggly Line Moment)
09:00 The 95-5 Rule: Future Demand vs In-Market Buyers
11:05 Shaping Future Demand vs Capturing In-Market Demand
11:50 Using the 5 Stages of Awareness to Plan Demand Gen Content
14:05 Why Early-Stage Content Makes Capture More Efficient
16:05 TAM vs ICP vs “Day One Shortlist” – The Brutal Reality
18:05 Modern Demand Gen Objectives for 2026 (Quality to Quantity)
18:50 Step 1 – Be Ready: Your 80/20 ICP & Segmentation Process
22:00 Customer Interviews, Positioning & Documented ICPs
25:45 Mapping the Buying Journey Questions (5 Stages Applied)
26:55 The Big Upgrade: Cataloguing Your Market One Account at a Time
29:20 Step 2 – Be Helpful: Building a Helpful Content Engine
30:45 Case Study: Rivet’s “Construction Is Hard” Show
31:55 Content Repurposing System for Small B2B Teams
33:10 Capturing Subject Matter Experts Without Burning Them Out
33:55 Step 3 – Be Seen: Smart Distribution (1:Many, 1:Few, 1:1)
35:20 Capturing In-Market Demand: ABM, Review Sites, and Google Ads
36:20 What Changed From 2025? Why Cataloguing Is the Missing Piece
36:55 How We Use Be Ready + Cataloguing at The B2B Playbook
39:00 Our Repurposing Engine: From One Episode to a Full Content System
40:10 Our Distribution Mix: LinkedIn Ads, YouTube, Newsletter & Full Circle
41:10 Key Takeaways: Your 2026 B2B Demand Gen Plan in 3 Steps
42:05 Join The B2B Incubator & Share the Show
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S07 E211 - The B2B Playbook
This is your last chance to join our Demand Gen Course – The B2B Incubator – before doors close on Friday, 28 November.
https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course-december
Inside the program, you’ll get:
Alison at RIVET used it to build a demand engine that now sources 70% of pipeline from marketing.
Allister Hamilton used it to triple his pipeline in services.
If you’re a small marketing team and want to stop chasing bad leads and start building a system that drives real revenue — this is your shot.
👉 Register now before doors close Friday, 28 November: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course-december
B2B Brand Marketing Strategy: How to Build Buyer Memory & Measure It
Most B2B marketers define brand by outputs. Colours. Logos. Campaigns. Assets.
But none of that matters if buyers don’t remember you when a real buying moment hits.
In this episode, we sit down with Matt Maynard, VP of Global Brand, Advertising & Communications at Asana, to break down what a modern B2B brand marketing strategy actually needs to do: build memory with future buyers, link your brand to the right Category Entry Points, and measure brand effectiveness with something more sophisticated than vanity metrics.
We get into the science of memory-building, how to prioritise CEPs, what distinctive brand assets really do, and how to use frameworks like ABLE and responsible reach to prove brand’s commercial impact.
Tune in and learn:
How to build memory with future buyers using CEPs and distinctiveness
How to measure brand with ABLE, brand lift, and responsible reach
How to position the brand function so leadership finally takes it seriously
If you’re a B2B marketer on a small team, this episode gives you a practical blueprint to make brand a growth driver instead of a “service team”.
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00:00 – Why B2B brand can’t be a “service team”
02:20 – Meet Asana’s VP of Brand & why brand is Matt’s “favourite child”
04:55 – The big mistake: defining brand by outputs, not memory
07:20 – What a real B2B brand marketing strategy must achieve
09:50 – Why buyer memory beats in-market optimisation
12:40 – Category Entry Points: the triggers future buyers already use
15:30 – How many CEPs to focus on (and why consistency wins)
18:10 – Distinctiveness vs differentiation for B2B brand
21:10 – Rebrands that destroy memory: Jaguar, Domino’s & more
24:40 – Channel mix for building memory efficiently
28:00 – How to measure brand: ABLE & responsible reach
31:30 – Selling brand to your CFO without sounding fluffy
35:10 – Small-team B2B brand playbook to beat bigger competitors
38:40 – Mascots, characters & distinctive brand assets in B2B
42:20 – Why customer logos can sabotage your brand ads
45:20 – The danger of chasing differentiation too early
48:40 – How Asana applies evidence-based brand principles in practice
52:30 – A pep talk for B2B brand marketers who want impact
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S07 E210 - The B2B Playbook
The 2026 B2B Content Strategy Most Marketers Miss
Most teams ship more content than ever… but almost none of it helps buyers do their job this week.
In this 5-minute Mid-Week Musing, we break down a modern b2b content strategy 2026 and how B2B marketers can use it to build trust, stay memorable, and make their product the natural next step.
Tune in and learn:
Why “helpful content” means solving one real job your ICP has this week
How Rivet’s Construction Is Hard show turned content into 70% of pipeline
How to make your product the conclusion of the story, not the headline act
Perfect for small-team marketers looking for fast, actionable plays to use this week.
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00:00 Why 2026 B2B Content Strategy Is About “This Week’s Job”
00:40 The Rivet Story: From Generic Blogs to “Construction Is Hard”
01:40 How They Built a Show Just for Their Best Contractors
02:40 Helpful Content That Talks Less About Product (But Sells More)
03:45 The Crazy Pipeline Impact – And Your One-Job Challenge
04:45 Turning One Show Into a Full 2026 Content Engine
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S07 E209 - The B2B Playbook
What’s Next for Outbound Sales? Aaron Ross (Predictable Revenue) & Adem Manderovic (Closed Circuit Selling)
Outbound sales is at a crossroads.
Automation is everywhere. AI is flooding inboxes. Meetings are harder to book than ever.
So we sat down with Aaron Ross, author of Predictable Revenue and From Impossible to Inevitable, to ask one question:
What’s next for outbound sales?
Alongside Aaron, Adem Manderovic (Closed Circuit Selling, CRO School) breaks down why GTM teams misread Predictable Revenue, how outbound drifted into “meetings at all costs,” and what a modern outbound system actually looks like.
We dig into market validation, cataloguing timing signals, emotional intelligence, relationship systems, and why AI is forcing teams back to fundamentals.
If you sell, market, or run a revenue team, this conversation will change how you think about outbound.
Tune in and learn:
Why Predictable Revenue was never meant to be a “meetings engine”
How outbound broke – and how to rebuild it around market validation
Why the future of outbound is more human, not more automated
If you're trying to fix noisy outbound, align sales and marketing, or build a modern revenue system, this episode is a must-watch.
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00:00 What’s Next for Outbound Sales?
01:00 How Predictable Revenue Was Misinterpreted
03:00 Why Meetings Became the Wrong Metric
05:00 Outbound as a Market Validation Engine
08:00 Inbound vs Outbound: Why the Debate Won’t Die
11:00 The Anxiety Economy: Overreacting vs Fixing GTM
14:00 When Leaders Do More of What Doesn’t Work
17:00 Relationship Systems: The Missing Link in Outbound
20:00 The Most Underrated Outbound Move: Talk to People
23:00 When Sales Stopped Validating Markets
26:00 Adem’s Closed Circuit Selling: Timing & Cataloguing
29:00 Aligning Sales, Marketing & CS Under a CRO
32:00 Why AI Makes EQ and Creativity More Valuable
36:00 Sales as a Communication Channel
40:00 Intent Data vs Real Customer Conversations
45:00 Aaron Ross’ New Books: Income Systems & AI Selling
50:00 Winners vs Losers in the AI Revenue Era
53:00 Final Takeaways for Modern Outbound
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S07 E208 - The B2B Playbook
Most teams blame Predictable Revenue for broken outbound. The truth? The model wasn’t wrong — the market’s interpretation was.
In this 5-minute Mid-Week Musing, we unpack why Predictable Revenue went off track and show how small B2B teams can fix outbound in 2026 through market validation — not meetings.
You’ll learn:
Why Predictable Revenue got misused as a meeting-engine, not a validation system
How to catalogue your market to uncover real buying signals
A simple way to align sales and marketing around timing and handoffs
Perfect for small-team marketers and sales leaders ready to modernise outbound and build predictable revenue the right way.
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00:00 Why Predictable Revenue Wasn’t Wrong
01:14 Market Validation: The Fix for Outbound in 2026
03:12 How to Catalogue Accounts (Instead of Chasing Meetings)
05:08 Why Timing Beats Pressure in Modern Outbound
08:45 Systemising the Handoff: Turning Validation into Revenue
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S07 E207 - The B2B Playbook
Outbound sales has changed — and so has Predictable Revenue.
In this episode, we sit down with Collin Stewart, CEO of Predictable Revenue, and Adem Manderovic from Closed Circuit Selling, to unpack how outbound has evolved, what the market misunderstood, and what’s working for 2026 and beyond.
We explore how outbound is shifting from brute-force prospecting to a smarter, signal-led strategy. You’ll hear the inside story behind Predictable Revenue, how SDR roles were originally designed, and why “market validation” is now the key measure of success.
Tune in and learn:
Why Predictable Revenue was never just about meetings
How to rebuild outbound around timing, trust, and signals
The 4-Funnel System that helps sales and marketing stay aligned
If you want to future-proof your outbound strategy for 2026, this episode is a must-watch.
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00:00 – The Flaw That Broke Outbound: When Predictable Revenue Lost Its Way
01:00 – How Predictable Revenue Changed SaaS Forever
03:00 – The Untold Story: From Voltage CRM to Predictable Revenue
06:00 – Cold Email in 2012: When 40% Reply Rates Were Normal
09:00 – What Problem Predictable Revenue Was Really Built to Solve
11:00 – The Email Revolution: How the Market Misread the Book
14:00 – SDRs, Specialization & the Original Intent Behind the Model
17:00 – Why Outbound Broke: Misuse, Metrics, and “Growth-at-All-Costs”
20:00 – From Prospecting to Market Validation: A Smarter Measure for 2026
23:00 – The Lazy SDR Problem – And How to Fix It with Better Habits
26:00 – How to Replace “Closed Lost” with a Real Nurture System
30:00 – Building the Four-Funnel System That Actually Works
33:00 – Why CRMs Became a Nightmare – and How to Rebuild Them for Sales
37:00 – AI, Clay & n8n: The New Tech Stack Powering Smart Outbound
41:00 – How Founders Can Build VC Lists & Market Maps with AI
44:00 – Humanic + Clay = Next-Gen Market Intelligence
46:00 – Why Collin Shut Down Predictable Revenue’s Sales Floor
50:00 – The Brutal Truth About Agency Models and Churn
54:00 – Writing The Terrifying Art of Finding Customers
57:00 – Product-Market Fit as the Real Multiplier of GTM Success
1:00:00 – Closing Thoughts: How to Rebuild Outbound for 2026
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S07 E206 - The B2B Playbook
Too many marketers treat intent data like X-ray vision – but it can’t actually tell you who’s ready to buy.
In this 5-minute Mid-Week Musing, we show how to replace guesswork with a practical signals framework that builds real sales timing intel through cataloguing.
You’ll learn:
Why intent scores create false positives (and how to spot them)
How sales cataloguing captures true buyer signals
The Signals → Catalogue → Feedback loop that aligns marketing and sales
Perfect for teams who want reliable signals – not synthetic data.
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00:00 Intent Data Lies: Why You’re Chasing Ghost Signals
00:40 The CRM “Hot Lead” That Wasn’t – False Positives Explained
01:20 Real Buyer Signals Start with Sales Cataloguing
02:15 Map Tools, Contracts & Decision Makers – Your Signal Checklist
03:20 Turn Intent into Insight: Signals → Catalogue → Feedback
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S07 E205 - The B2B Playbook
Originally aired on the Predictable Revenue Podcast, this conversation flips the old sales playbook on its head.
Adem Manderovic (Closed Circuit Selling) and George Coudounaris (The B2B Playbook) join Collin Stewart to unpack a new sales paradigm built around one principle — catalog the market, not “book more meetings.”
They explain how the Closed Circuit Selling framework replaces outdated outbound with validated, permission-based outreach that unites Sales, Marketing, and Customer Success under one rhythm.
Tune in and learn:
Why cataloging the market gives you timing signals that drive predictable growth
The exact questions to validate fit, timing, and permission to follow up
How to align Sales & Marketing around validated accounts instead of vanity metrics
If you’re a B2B marketer or sales leader stuck in “meetings-booked” chaos, this is your blueprint for a smarter, more efficient GTM motion.
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00:00 Why “Catalog the Market” Beats Chasing Meetings
01:00 What CRO School Fixes That Sales Methods Miss
02:10 Small Markets Force Better GTM (Sydney -- Texas)
03:20 The Origin Story: From Little Black Book to System
04:40 Closed-Door Events: Selling Before Stock Hits the Floor
06:00 Cross-Industry Proof: Finance, Leasing, FMCG, VC
07:10 Relationship-First Outbound - Spray-and-Pray
08:10 Marketing’s Lead-Gen Trap and Why Dashboards Lie
09:30 Email Once Worked. It Doesn’t Now. Back to Fundamentals
11:10 Using Outbound as Research, Not Pressure Sales
12:40 The Two Dispositions: “Nurture” vs “Leave Us Alone” (FOAD)
13:50 CCS Pillars: 1) Catalog the Market 2) Segment by Timing
15:30 Aligning Sales, Marketing, CS Under One Rhythm
16:50 Better Forecasts When You Know “Who, When, Why”
18:10 Case Study: $10k Wasted Chasing the Wrong Account
19:30 Marketing Can Catalog 1-to-Few (Not Just Sales)
21:00 What to Measure Instead of “Meetings Booked”
22:20 The Exact Catalog Questions to Ask Prospects
24:00 Where Outbound Happens Next: DM, Video, TikTok, IG
25:20 Fax Machines to Folders: How We Tracked Timing (Throwback)
26:40 The Big Shift You’ll See in Clients Post-CCS
27:40 Where to Learn More + 5-Part Mini-Series
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S07 E204 - The B2B Playbook
We’re showing how to unlock free clicks on LinkedIn Ads by editing boosted thought-leadership posts a few days later and adding the next logical link. No extra budget, more content consumption.
In this Midweek Musings mini-episode, we break down why boosting SME posts builds trust, how to avoid throttling reach, and where to find those “free” landing-page clicks inside Ads Manager. Perfect for small B2B teams who need smarter results from the same spend.
We also show how to map your link choice to the 5 Stages of Awareness—and why sending people to another LinkedIn post often outperforms a website link early in the journey.
Tune in and learn:
If you run thought-leadership ads, this is a must-watch—simple, fast, and proven for B2B marketers who need more outcomes from limited budget.
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00:00 The 2-Minute Hack for Free Clicks on LinkedIn Ads
00:15 Why You Shouldn’t Add Links on Day One
00:45 What to Link to Instead (Next Logical Step)
01:15 Measure Your “Free Clicks” in Ads Manager
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Good Friction vs Bad Friction in B2B Marketing: Stop Wasting Buyer Effort
Too many teams removed every barrier and called it “buyer-first.” The result? Leaky funnels, vanity MQLs, and zero commercial insight. In this episode, we show how to use good friction to earn trust, capture context, and actually help buyers make better decisions (without annoying them).
We (George Coudounaris & Kevin Chen) break down where friction belongs in your buyer journey, when gating makes sense, and how to turn forms, events, and content into useful market intel. We also dig into progressive profiling and cataloguing so Sales get timing, permission, and real-world context they can act on.
We’ll show standout moments like: why you should stop gating case studies, how to design “good friction” for community signups and workshops, and a simple green-yellow-red scoring method to fix bad friction fast.
Tune in and learn:
The difference between good vs bad friction (and how to spot each)
When to gate (community, events, newsletters) and when not to (case studies)
How to use progressive profiling to “catalogue” vendors, renewal dates, and permission to follow up
If you’re a small B2B team, this episode is a must-watch. You’ll walk away with a friction map you can fix this week, a scoring system to prioritise changes, and a smarter way to feed Sales with timing-based insights.
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00:00 Good vs Bad Friction: Why “Less friction” isn’t always better
00:31 Welcome back + Season 7 context
01:10 The 5 Bs (quick refresher for new viewers)
02:10 What is “friction” in B2B? A simple definition that matters
03:00 Good friction vs bad friction – who does it actually help?
03:46 Bad friction example: Long forms for generic PDFs
04:52 More “bad”: CRM-first flows and vanity MQLs
06:10 Content gating gone wrong (case studies… don’t gate them)
07:20 When gating is OK: communities, events, and newsletters
08:18 Using friction to “catalogue” the market (timing + permission)
09:40 Why cataloguing beats ebook MQLs
10:41 Buyers don’t fear effort—they fear wasted effort
11:34 Our CRO School example: progressive profiling that helps
12:45 Turn events into commercial insights (what to ask)
13:50 Start with FAQs to find friction that actually matters
15:10 Map the journey: value exchange at each interaction
16:05 Score friction: green / yellow / red
17:00 Simplify or redesign: make effort earn trust
18:10 Key takeaways + springboard into the new year
19:00 One ask: share this with a marketer who’ll benefit
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S07 E202 - The B2B Playbook
Outbound is breaking — and most teams don’t even realise it yet.
In this episode, Scott Leese joins George Coudounaris and Adem Manderovic to unpack why the Predictable Revenue model is collapsing — and how to rebuild outbound around networks, trust, and real timing.
We break down how the SDR→AE split eroded skills and alignment, how “meetings booked” became the wrong KPI, and what today’s best sellers are doing differently: validating markets, leveraging relationships, and comping on actual revenue.
Scott shares what he’s seeing across 160 + companies and 12 unicorns, from collapsing cold-call pickup rates to the rebirth of in-person plays. We tie it back to CRO School’s Closed Circuit Selling™ — a system that gets sales, marketing, and product working in sync again.
Tune in and learn:
Why outbound is breaking — and what replaces it
How to comp on held meetings or revenue, not vanity KPIs
How to validate and catalogue your market for smarter timing
The new edge: AI + network + unscalable plays
If you’re a small-team B2B marketer or sales leader sick of empty pipelines and spam tactics, this episode gives you the modern framework to fix it.
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00:00 The Volume Game Is Dead
01:00 Why Scott Leese Ditched Outdated Playbooks
02:20 “Hobbyists with Pitch Decks”
04:40 Funding ≠ Success
07:18 Founders Must Sell First
10:50 What Great Sellers Do Differently
13:40 Validate the Market Before You Sell
16:04 How Predictable Revenue Broke Sales
19:40 Lost Coaching & Skill Decay
23:58 AI + Network + Unscalable Grit
26:50 Fix Your Sales Technical Debt
29:21 Stop Paying for Meetings Booked
32:00 The MQL Hamster Wheel
35:00 Rebuilding Sales–Marketing Handoffs
41:10 Cold Calls Are Dying
45:10 Referral Math That Opens Doors
46:20 In-Person Plays That Win
49:20 Deepfakes & IRL Trust
55:10 Scott’s 3 Bets for the Future
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S07 E201 - The B2B Playbook
How do you go from a scrappy B2B SaaS with early traction… to a repeatable, scalable growth machine?
In this episode, we sit down with EVP’s Allen Zhu — founder-turned-PM-turned-investor — to unpack the go-to-market playbook for scaling from 1 to 10. We dive into how top SaaS companies segment their market, fund sales and marketing early, and build moats that compound.
Allen shares real examples from EVP’s portfolio (including Nexl) and explains how segmentation, workflow-driven expansion, and smart early investment helped them scale fast without burning cash.
Tune in and learn:
How segmentation drives efficiency — and the Nexl case that proves it
The “self-funding” model for early sales & marketing investment
Product expansion frameworks: follow the workflow, then follow the money
How to build switching-cost moats and pre-board ROI for enterprise deals
This is a must-watch for any B2B marketer or founder navigating the jump from early traction to scalable growth.
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00:00 The counter-intuitive truth: Sales & marketing can be self-funding
01:00 Meet Allen Zhu (EVP): founder → PM → investor
03:00 Early ventures, lessons from agency → apps → D2C
06:30 From Citi to Freelancer to EVP: why B2B SaaS
09:30 What EVP does at Series A (and how they partner)
12:00 The #1 scaling mistake: skipping segmentation
15:10 Case study: Nexl’s segmentation unlock (who, where, and why)
19:40 Why SDR “spray & pray” fails in small total addressable lists
22:10 Invest in S&M early: the “self-funding” window explained
24:30 Measuring what matters when attribution gets messy
29:30 Product expansion playbook: follow the workflow, follow the money
33:30 Moats 101 for SaaS: switching costs, data, and process power
37:30 Selling enterprise: pre-boarding ROI to win the room
42:30 Timing outreach with public contract intel (governments)
46:30 Customer advocacy flywheel: advisory boards & reference power
53:00 Leading vs lagging: how EVP reads GTM progress
56:30 What “active partner” really means at Series A
58:30 Final takeaway: segmentation first, everything else follows
59:30 Where to find Allen & EVP
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S07 E200 - The B2B Playbook
How do you go from 70 to 1000+ registrants for your webinar? How do you convert this to revenue? In this game-changing episode of The B2B Playbook, we dive deep into the world of webinar marketing with expert Justin Zimmerman. Justin reveals his innovative approach to webinars that's driving unprecedented results for B2B companies.
We explore a complete paradigm shift in webinar strategy, moving away from the traditional focus on attendance and content creation to a data-driven, partner-centric approach. Justin shares his secrets for consistently achieving 1000+ registrants, turning webinars into powerful lead generation and sales conversion tools.
Tune in and learn:
How to leverage partners and influencers to exponentially grow your webinar audience
The 6-step registration process that captures crucial lead data and drives conversions
Post-webinar strategies that turn no-shows into demo bookings and sales opportunities
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to revolutionize their webinar strategy, drive more leads, and achieve better ROI from their marketing efforts. Justin's insights will change the way you think about webinars forever!
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00:00 The Game-Changing Webinar Strategy You've Been Missing
02:19 Common Webinar Pitfalls: Why Most B2B Marketers Struggle
04:30 Revolutionizing Webinars: Focus on Data Collection, Not Attendance
07:09 Leveraging Partners and Influencers for Massive Webinar Growth
11:37 The 6-Step Registration Process That Drives Results
16:40 Curating Content vs. Creating: A Stress-Free Approach to Webinars
21:20 Structuring Your Webinar for Maximum Impact and Sales Conversion
26:29 Post-Webinar Strategies That Turn Attendees into Customers
31:30 The Power of Problem Awareness in Demand Capture
37:10 Automating Follow-Ups: Balancing Efficiency and Personalization
41:40 Ask More, Get More: Introducing a Revolutionary Webinar Tool
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S06 E151 - The B2B Playbook
If your outbound is optimised for meetings, not conversations, you’re burning cash and trust.
We sit down with Joey Gilkey (CEO, Titan X) and Adem Manderovic (Closed Circuit Selling, CRO School) to rebuild B2B outbound so it actually drives revenue. We unpack why the SDR-AE factory failed, how to get 25% connect rates, and how to use first-party signals to guide timing, ads, and follow up.
Joey shows why he pays SDRs to create completed conversations and rigorous disposition buckets. Adem explains cataloguing and channel validation so marketing stops guessing and starts planning around real timing. We dig into audience activation using opt-in texts and VSLs, and why “buyer intent” data isn’t the shortcut you think it is.
Tune in and learn:
A practical B2B outbound strategy built on conversations and 6 disposition buckets
Why the SDR-AE model and Predictable Revenue broke outbound (and what replaces it)
Why pipeline coverage and meeting quotas mislead teams, and what to measure instead
This is a must-watch if you’re a B2B revenue leader. Stop chasing low-value meetings and start engineering high-value conversations that inform ads, timing, and deals.
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00:00 Why today’s outbound is breaking trust
01:34 Joey Gilkey on Titan X and the “phone intent” wedge
02:58 The 25% connect-rate play and why conversations matter
04:30 How the SDR-AE split eroded buyer trust
06:05 Cheap headcount, costly model: the real flaw
08:36 What APAC got right: senior sellers and CS roots
10:28 Market validation beats MQLs every time
12:44 VC incentives and the sales industrial complex
13:58 Joey’s reversal: paying SDRs to have conversations
15:42 Long-cycle selling lessons that fix short-term thinking
18:32 Buckets, not bookings: 6 dispositions that run your follow up
21:05 Full-cycle AEs vs modern roles – what actually works
27:10 Audience activation: VSL + phone + SMS that scales trust
32:33 Opt-in texting, pixeling, and smarter retargeting
34:52 Make marketing useful: capture commercial intel, not contacts
36:55 Pipeline coverage is a vanity metric without context
38:28 Phone intel powering LinkedIn ads and account timing
40:28 Why “buyer intent” data misses the mark
45:35 PE firms are cutting SDRs – what to run toward instead
52:57 Retraining SDRs is easy. Leaders are the bottleneck
55:40 Final take: value conversations, not meetings
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S07 E199 - The B2B Playbook
How to Land 6-Figure Deals with LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads
Want to get clients on LinkedIn using ads that actually build trust and drive pipeline? This is the playbook.
We’re walking you through the exact LinkedIn ads strategy we use to land six-figure deals for ourselves and our clients—without spamming inboxes or relying on outdated lead gen tactics.
This is our B2B demand generation system—powered by LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads—that’s working across SaaS, consulting, and service businesses. If you're in a small marketing team and tired of wasting budget on low-quality leads, this episode will change how you market forever.
You’ll learn how to:
Map your LinkedIn content to the five stages of awareness
Use thought leadership marketing to build trust at scale
Combine paid media and outbound to unlock high-intent conversations
Watch this if you:
Want a scalable way to generate demand on LinkedIn
Need a better B2B LinkedIn ad strategy that drives revenue
Are trying to get in front of ideal customers with zero brand awareness
We show you how to tie content, ads, and outbound together to consistently book meetings and grow pipeline. It’s the same framework behind our $10K/month retainers—and it works for any B2B brand.
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers who want to use LinkedIn to win high-value deals—and build a marketing engine that scales.
🔗 Links + CTAs
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02:20 What Are LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads?
03:40 Proof It Works: Real $10K/Month Deal From These Ads
05:00 Why Most Thought Leadership Ad Campaigns Fail
07:00 Boosting Posts ≠ Strategy: The Common Mistake
09:00 The 3-Month Trust-Building Window (Case Study Insight)
11:00 You Need This Before You Run Any LinkedIn Ads
12:40 Our Full Demand Gen Framework Behind These Ads
14:20 Mapping Ads To The 5 Stages of Awareness
16:00 Unaware to Most Aware: The Buyer Journey Blueprint
18:00 How to Create a Thought Leadership Content Matrix
20:00 Cold vs Warm Audiences: What Content to Serve
21:40 How We Target & Build Audiences That Convert
23:00 Ideal Ad Frequency: What LinkedIn Won’t Tell You
24:40 Our Secret Ad Sequencing Hack That Lowers Costs
27:00 Real Client Wins: Social Proof You Can Copy
29:00 When To Combine Ads With Sales for Bigger Wins
30:40 The KPIs That Actually Matter (And What to Ignore)
34:00 Final Thoughts & Where To Learn More
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S07 E179 - The B2B Playbook
B2B Marketing Budget Allocation: The Sustainable Way Small Teams Should Do It
If your marketing budget keeps getting cut or ignored, it’s not you—it’s the model.
In this episode, we break down a practical B2B marketing budget allocation for small teams. We explain why top-down and bottom-up alone fall apart, how to validate messaging before you buy reach, and how to shift from BOFU-only spend to a balanced brand + demand mix that compounds.
We share the path we use with our 5 BEs framework—start lean and organic, prove the message, then use paid to amplify. You’ll hear realistic ROI guardrails, when to rebalance spend, and how category (established vs new) should change your split.
Tune in and learn:
How to avoid the top-down and bottom-up budget traps
The “validate, then amplify” approach that saves cash and increases impact
ROI ranges and a stepwise shift from BOFU to demand + brand
If you’re a B2B marketer in a small team, this is the clearest way to plan and defend your budget—and actually deliver revenue impact.
🔗 Links + CTAs
💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 The B2B Budgeting Problem No One Solves Clearly
00:27 Who We Help: Small Teams, Big Revenue Goals
01:05 The 5 BEs Framework in 60 Seconds
02:30 Why Budgeting Is So Hard (Variables You Can’t Ignore)
03:45 The Trap: Overcommitting to Channels Having “Their Moment”
04:38 Top-Down Budgeting: Looks Great on a Slide, Breaks in Reality
06:05 The 95:5 Rule vs “Just Spend More on BOFU”
07:18 Bottom-Up Budgeting: Sensible… Until Leadership Says “Bigger”
09:45 Our Recommendation: Start Lean, Prove It Organically
11:30 Validate PMF & Messaging Before You Buy Reach
12:40 Paid = Amplification Once the Message Works
13:40 Evolving the Mix: From BOFU-Heavy to Balanced Demand
15:05 Setting ROI Targets You Can Defend (and Reinvesting)
16:45 Category Matters: Established vs New (Webjet vs Uber)
18:50 Build Mental Availability to Lower Future CAC
20:40 Key Takeaways & Your Next Budget Moves
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S07 E198 - The B2B Playbook
Community-Led Growth: How To Turn Customers Into Your Growth Engine
We break down the playbook for community-led growth — how to move beyond engagement theater and build a system where customers become your distribution.
Featuring Laís de Oliveira (author of Hacking Communities), this episode gives you practical frameworks like the Five Ps, the “lighthouse → port → city” journey, and closeness circles that turn casual users into passionate advocates and ambassadors.
We show you how to:
Make community a core growth engine (not a side-channel)
Design onboarding and programming that build habit
Use contribution, access, and recognition to scale advocacy
If you’re a B2B marketer on a small team, this episode shows how to create a community-led growth system that compounds your distribution and builds lasting trust with buyers.
🔗 Links + CTAs
💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 Community-Led Growth: Your Unfair Distribution Advantage
01:00 Why Brands Are Now Conversations (You Can’t Control Them)
02:45 TL;DR Framework: From Clarity → Contribution → Advocacy
04:15 The Five Ps Of Community-Led Growth
06:00 Identity → Connectedness → Growth Formula
08:00 Make Community Core To Value Creation
10:00 Community-Led Growth x Business Model Canvas
12:15 Jobs-To-Be-Done For Community-Led Growth
14:30 B2B Examples: From CRM To Better Sellers
16:20 Lighthouse → Port → City: How Communities Grow
19:00 The First 21 Days: Onboarding That Sticks
21:15 Programming That Brings People Back
23:00 Turning Users Into Contributors
25:10 Advocates vs Ambassadors In Community-Led Growth
27:20 Closeness Circles: Reward With Access
30:00 The Taylor Swift Playbook (For B2B Communities)
32:10 Journey & Lifecycle: 1500:150:15 Ratios
35:00 Pitfalls To Avoid In Community-Led Growth
37:10 Make It A System: Track, Reward, Iterate
39:30 Q&A: Communities Beyond Customers
43:00 Q&A: Where To Start – Existing vs New Customers
46:00 Q&A: Virality & Chapters In Community-Led Growth
50:00 Q&A: When Is It Too Early To Start?
53:00 Wrap: Community As A Value Engine
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S07 E197 - The B2B Playbook
Most B2B revenue engines stall out. In this episode, we break down why — and how to build one that actually scales.
Paul Perrett (CEO, Firmable) joins us with Adem Manderovic (Closed Circuit Selling, CRO School) to map ARR model, the 10-line economic engine, and why cataloguing and ecosystem activation beat brute-force outbound.
We unpack how to work backwards from revenue goals, align Sales, Marketing and CS around market validations, and build compounding demand with brand and partners.
Tune in and learn:
The 10-line economic model behind a scalable B2B revenue engine
How to replace MQLs with market validations and fix SDR incentives
Ecosystem activation plays that compound trust and pipeline
If you’re a B2B marketer in a small team, this is a must-watch. It’s practical, numbers-first, and shows how to turn brand, SDRs, inbound, and partners into one working B2B revenue engine.
🔗 Links + CTAs
💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 Scaling from traction to a real revenue engine
01:00 Meet Paul Perrett (Firmable CEO) + Adem Manderovic
03:00 What Firmable does and the CEO’s many hats
05:20 Modelling $2M to $10M ARR with a 10-line engine
09:30 Three demand channels: SDR, inbound, partners
12:20 Cataloguing vs predictable revenue: the missing metric
18:50 Why incentives break SDRs (and how to fix them)
22:00 Ecosystem activation and compounding demand
26:40 Brand, trust, and the founder-led play
33:00 Selling brand and long-term plays to boards & CFOs
42:00 The bets Firmable is making to reach $10M ARR
49:40 Signals, SEA expansion, and the myths of Aussie SaaS
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S07 E195 - The B2B Playbook
This is your last chance to join our Demand Gen Course – The B2B Incubator – before doors close on Friday, 29 August.
https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course
Inside the program, you’ll get:
Alison at RIVET used it to build a demand engine that now sources 70% of pipeline from marketing.
Allister Hamilton used it to triple his pipeline in services.
If you’re a small marketing team and want to stop chasing bad leads and start building a system that drives real revenue — this is your shot.
👉 Register now before doors close Friday, 29 August: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course
Demand Generation Course Review: What I Learned Inside The B2B Incubator
Thinking about joining a demand generation course—but not sure if it’s worth your time?
We sat down with Allister Hamilton, Head of Marketing at Lánluas Consulting, to hear how The B2B Incubator helped him go from an unclear strategy to measurable pipeline growth.
Allister shares:
Why he picked this program over other courses (including how it's different to Ritson’s Mini MBA)
How he got sales to actually use their content
The exact results they saw (3x more prospect meetings, 200% LinkedIn lift, +75% attributed pipeline)
Tune in and learn:
How to build a demand gen engine with a small team
A practical content system that aligns sales and marketing
What to expect when you join The B2B Incubator
If you're serious about levelling up your skills, aligning your team, and finally seeing results from your content—this episode is for you.
🔗 Links + CTAs
🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course
💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 Demand Gen Course Review: Real Feedback from a Head of Marketing
00:44 The Problem: Content That Doesn’t Drive Pipeline
01:53 Why I Chose The B2B Incubator Over Other Courses
02:50 Hands-On vs Theory: How It Compares to Ritson’s Mini MBA
04:30 From B2C to B2B: Plugging My Skill Gaps
05:40 The Mindset Shift: From Sales Support to Strategic Partner
07:00 Learning to Build a Content Engine with Limited Resources
08:00 Our Strategy: Pillar Content on Steroids
09:02 How We Got Sales to Use Our Marketing Content
09:40 The Power of Single-Minded Content
10:40 Aligning Content to Personas (and Why It Worked)
11:30 The Impact on Sales Conversations
12:00 Tangible Results: 3x More Prospect Meetings
13:00 200% LinkedIn Engagement Lift
13:50 Website Dwell Time Up 80%
14:30 $ Attributable Pipeline: +75% YoY
15:05 The Confidence Shift: Why I’d Do It Again
16:10 Making Time for the Program in a Small Team
17:05 Should You Bring Your Team Into the Program Too?
17:42 Final Verdict: Is It Worth It?
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S07 E195 - The B2B Playbook
If your sales and marketing teams feel like they’re running different races, this episode will show you the framework to fix it – fast.
We break down the exact sales and marketing alignment framework we use with revenue leaders to unite GTM teams, reduce wasted spend, and win more deals. You’ll see why the old playbooks like Predictable Revenue create silos – and how our “Circuit” model hardwires sales, marketing, and customer success into one connected system.
We’ll walk you through cataloguing the market to capture first-party intent, feeding that intelligence into marketing for targeted trust-building campaigns, and closing the loop with customer success so deals stick and expand.
Tune in and learn:
Why most GTM teams are misaligned – and the root cause
How to capture first-party market intelligence that makes marketing commercially viable
The step-by-step framework for aligning sales, marketing, and customer success
This is a must-watch if you lead sales, marketing, or customer success and want a system that unites your teams around the same revenue goal.
Want access to the GTM Map that's blurred out? Register for our next webinar: 🔗 https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school
🔗 Links + CTAs
🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school
🔗Want access to our GTM Map? Register for our next webinar at https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school
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00:00 Welcome to The Circuit: Why GTM Misfires Happen
01:20 The Big Promise: A Framework for Fixing GTM from the Frontlines
03:40 Why Sales & Marketing Misalignment Costs You Revenue
05:50 The Predictable Revenue Problem No One Talks About
08:15 How Team Incentives Broke the GTM System
10:30 The Fallout: Low-Quality Meetings & Rising CAC
13:20 Marketing’s MQL Trap – and How to Escape It
15:40 Why Traditional Sales Methodologies Aren’t Enough
18:00 The Real Cost of Sales Overpromising & CS Under-delivering
21:00 Old Principles, Modern Twist: The Case for Cataloging
24:10 Step 1: How BDMs Capture First-Party Intent
28:30 Step 2: Turning Catalog Data into Marketing Firepower
32:20 Step 3: Live Quoting Days & Seamless Handoffs
36:00 Step 4: Customer Success as a Growth Engine
39:20 The Circuit vs Predictable Revenue – Side-by-Side
42:00 Why Cataloging Builds Long-Term Alignment
45:10 Real-World Wins: From Stalled Deals to Biggest Ever
48:20 How to Pilot This Framework in Your Organisation
51:00 Next Steps: CRO School, Health Checks & Roundtables
S07 E194 - The B2B Playbook
If you're a CMO, CRO or Head of Sales, you should be asking yourself: how can our teams work better together to drive more revenue, in a more efficient way?
We've come across so many organizations that have bloated methods for acquiring customers. They're loaded to the brim with hungry SDRs who have 'book the meeting at all costs' as their mandate. They've handcuffed marketing and reduced them to 'lead gen' to feed the sales machine.
The result? A 'spray and pray' method that doesn't work unless you have serious cash to burn. Marketing, sales and customer success are incentivised to behave in ways that compete with each other. A poor customer experience. And a high level of churn and dissatisfaction at customer success.
To answer your prayers for a 'better way', we've teamed up with 7x ex Head of Sales, Adem Manderovic, to bring you a combined marketing and sales system that will completely align your business. It will help you build a growth engine that allows you to win more customers for less, and reduce churn.
It gets sales, marketing and customer success to all play on the same team.
Today we are sharing step 1 of our framework to create complete end-to-end organizational alignment. This is the solution to start driving a much more efficient acquisition system.
Step 1 is all about laying the foundations in place for your revenue engine before you go-to-market.
Tune in and learn:
How to define your next best market
How to reposition your business to make it a 'no brainer' for future customers
How to prioritize your next targets by cataloguing the market
If you're struggling to hit targets and are feeling the pain of churning and burning the market, make sure you check out this mini-series where we detail our 5-step framework.
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00:00 Welcome to the B2B Playbook: Creating a Business Growth Engine
01:28 Why Understanding Your Best Market is Crucial for Success
03:41 The Four-Step Process to Drive Better Commercial Outcomes
05:42 Step 1: Identifying Your Best Customers Using the 80/20 Rule
08:40 Step 2: Deep Dive into Customer Understanding
11:22 Uncovering Hidden Insights from Lost Deals and Churned Clients
13:50 The Power of Direct Customer Interviews vs. Data Analysis
16:20 Step 3: Updating Your Positioning and Messaging
17:52 Step 4: Cataloging the Market - A Lost Art in Modern Sales
20:20 The Benefits of Building Relationships Through Market Research
22:08 Wrapping Up: The Foundation for a Successful Growth Engine
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S06 E145 - The B2B Playbook
Transform Your Marketing with our Demand Generation Course, The B2B Incubator
We dive deep into our demand generation program, designed to transform how B2B marketers generate pipeline and revenue.
In this video, we outline the program, discuss the challenges B2B marketers face, and share success stories from our alumni.
Tune in and learn:
Why the 5 Bs Framework is a game-changer for B2B marketers.
How to create a scalable demand generation strategy.
Real results from marketers who took this journey.
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00:00 Welcome to the B2B Incubator
02:00 Who is This Program For?
04:00 Common Challenges in B2B Marketing
06:00 The Three Key Shifts for Demand Generation
08:00 Why the B2B Incubator Works
10:00 The 5 Bs Framework Explained
12:00 Consistency is Key in Demand Generation
14:00 Overview of the Program Structure
16:00 The Templates and Tools You'll Use
18:00 Career Benefits of the Program
20:00 Real Success Stories from Alumni
22:00 FAQ: Common Program Questions
24:00 How to Secure Buy-in for the Program
25:30 Next Steps to Join the B2B Incubator
26:40 Final Cohort Info
Why Most B2B Positioning Fails (And How to Fix Yours)
Most B2B positioning fails because teams refuse to make strategic choices—and it shows up in generic homepages, weak messaging, and confusing GTM.
In this episode, we share a masterclass from Anthony Pierri—co-founder of Fletch PMM and positioning expert for 300+ B2B startups. If you're a marketer struggling to get your team aligned around clear messaging that drives revenue, this is for you.
Anthony breaks down why positioning must live on your homepage, how to choose between use case vs category strategies, and the 4 key questions every B2B company must answer.
Tune in and learn:
The 6 most common B2B positioning mistakes (with real examples)
Why your homepage is the best place to anchor positioning
How to craft a clear, credible message your team can align around
If you’ve ever felt like your messaging is vague, your homepage is generic, or your GTM teams are misaligned—this episode will show you how to fix it.
🔗 Links + CTAs
💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 Why Positioning Matters More Than You Think
01:10 Homepage as a Strategic Anchor for Positioning
02:38 Positioning 101: Why You Can’t Be Everything for Everyone
03:15 Common Mistake #1: Making Up a New Product Category
05:49 Common Mistake #2: Pretending You’re More Than You Are
07:52 Common Mistake #3: Positioning Around Revenue Outcomes
10:51 Common Mistake #4: Leading with AI as Your Differentiator
12:55 Common Mistake #5: Targeting Too Many Audiences
14:35 Why Brand Slogans Fail When Strategy Is Missing
16:50 The Four Essential Positioning Questions
18:40 Why You Can’t A/B Test Your Way to a Position
20:20 Category vs Use Case Positioning Explained
23:35 Figma vs Calendly: Two Positioning Approaches
26:40 How to Find the Right Level of Use Case Specificity
27:50 Segmenting Your Market: 4 Ways That Actually Help
30:00 Building Your Positioning Canvas Step-by-Step
31:30 What Does Your Product Replace? Competitive Alternatives
32:50 How Market Maturity Impacts Positioning Strategy
34:00 Differentiation: Binary vs Degree-Based Examples
36:30 Why Your Homepage Needs to Reflect Your Position
39:00 Fletch PMM’s Own Positioning Strategy (Behind the Scenes)
41:00 Bringing Positioning Into Sales, GTM, and Investor Decks
42:20 Q&A: Positioning for Horizontal Products
43:35 How to Use Use Cases to Stay Focused
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S07 E192 - The B2B Playbook
Why MQLs Are Broken (And What to Measure Instead)
B2B marketers are under pressure to generate pipeline. But the truth is, most of us are stuck operating inside a broken GTM system that was never built for how buyers actually buy.
In this episode, we’re joined by Steve Patti — 7x CMO, 3x sales leader, and creator of the Brand Demand Expand framework — alongside Adem Manderovic, co-founder of CRO School and architect of Closed Circuit Selling.
Together, we unpack why the MQL became marketing’s biggest mistake, how misaligned incentives broke sales and marketing, and how to rebuild your go-to-market so it’s actually commercially viable.
Steve shares real stories — including how he used account intelligence to guide $200M in CapEx — and outlines the system he used to align sales, marketing, and product around real buyer needs.
Tune in and learn:
Why MQLs are based on “fantasy intent” — and what to track instead
How to replace lead gen with real account intelligence
What sales, marketing, and CS need to align on to win deals (and renew them)
If you’re a B2B marketer frustrated with misaligned GTM motions, noisy Martech promises, and the pressure to deliver pipeline from people not ready to buy — this episode is a must-watch.
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00:00 Why MQLs Are a Lie We Keep Telling Ourselves
02:10 Sales and Marketing Broke Each Other
04:00 How Martech Incentivised the Wrong Behaviours
06:00 The Rise of GTM Engineers (and Why It’s Dangerous)
07:30 What Sales Used to Measure vs. Today’s Mess
09:00 From Carrying the Bag to Calling the Bluff
12:00 Brand Still Matters More Than Martech Tells You
15:00 Why “Create Demand” is the Wrong Idea
17:00 The Real GTM Fix: Start With Account Intelligence
19:30 Cataloguing the Market: The Mid-Market Hosting Playbook
23:00 A Real Example of ABM Done Right
26:00 The Problem With ABM Without ABS
28:00 Make Marketing the Wingman, Not the Hero
30:00 Stop Guessing: Why Marketing Shouldn’t Chase Intent
33:00 Micro-Events That Actually Move Pipeline
36:00 IVP Fit: Ideal Vendor Profile vs Ideal Customer Profile
39:00 Don’t Waste Sales Time on Unwinnable Deals
41:00 Sales Looks Right to Left, Marketing Left to Right
44:00 Closed Lost Isn’t the End—It’s an Opportunity
47:00 When CS Is Set Up to Fail From the Start
50:00 Reactivating Lost Deals With Class
54:00 The Real Reason So Many GTM Systems Fail
57:00 How PE and VC Killed Long-Term Thinking
1:00:00 The Problem With Building to Sell, Not to Last
1:03:00 Want Behaviour Change? Fix Beliefs, Not Just KPIs
1:06:00 The Pyramid of Beliefs, Values, and Actions
1:09:00 How to Convince the C-Suite to Change GTM
1:12:00 Final Thoughts: This Isn’t Just a Sales Problem
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S07 E191 - The B2B Playbook
Most marketers still obsess over Google blue links. We’re here to show why that’s yesterday’s game.
We sat down with SEO legend Sam Dunning to unpack the new frontier of search: LLM SEO (aka Generative Engine Optimisation). Sam reveals a repeatable 90-day plan that gets your brand cited - not just ranked - inside ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity and Google’s AI Overview.
You’ll hear the exact tactics small teams can use to out-manoeuvre enterprise giants: think listicle “cheat codes”, brand-mention campaigns, and Reddit seeding that LLMs love.
Tune in and learn:
Zero-click search - why clicks are disappearing and how to adapt
Brand mentions are better than backlinks - the new authority signal LLMs crave
90-day sprint - ship pages, listicles and PR faster than big brands
This episode is a must-watch if you need organic search to drive pipeline (not vanity traffic) in 2025 and beyond.
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00:00 AI vs SEO: Why This Matters Now
01:40 The Biggest Search Shake-Up in 10 Years
03:10 Enter the Zero-Click Era
04:35 Is Google Still Worth Chasing?
06:20 Should You Stop “Traditional” SEO?
08:05 How to Optimise for LLM Search
09:55 Solution-Aware Content That Wins
11:25 LLMs Don’t Rank Pages—They Chunk Them
13:05 Brand Mentions: The New Backlink
15:40 Listicles: Your AI Cheat Code
18:20 Build Detailed Use-Case Pages Fast
21:05 Early-Mover Advantage (Act Now)
23:30 Reddit & Quora: Secret SEO Weapons
26:10 Tracking the Un-Trackable in AI Search
29:55 The 90-Day Playbook to Beat Giants
33:35 Speed & Experimentation = Moat
40:10 Creative Tactics + Close
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S07 E190 - The B2B Playbook
We sat down with sales legend Leslie Venetz and CRO School co-founder Adem Manderovic to untangle why outbound is still stuck in 2011—and how modern SDRs and BDRs can fix it fast.
Outbound targets have never been tougher, yet teams keep blasting buyers with the same tired sequences. In this no-fluff chat, we unpack a buyer-first framework that swaps brute-force tactics for trust-led outreach and market validation.
Tune in and learn:
The “earn the right” test Leslie uses before every email or call
How to rebuild SDR metrics around market validations - fast
Why AI tools like Clay help only when you start with real buyer insight
This episode is a must-watch if you’re serious about building a profit-generating pipeline without burning trust (or your team).
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💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 Outbound Playbooks Still Stuck in 2011
04:00 Leslie’s Mission – Make Sales Respected Again
08:00 “Earn the Right” – Trust Before Tactics
12:00 Why Most Outbound Emails Flop
16:00 Attribution Wars & Broken GTM Alignment
20:00 Enterprise Buying Lessons on Repeatability
24:00 The SDR Industrial Complex Exposed
28:00 Relevance vs Personalization – Hard Stop
32:00 AI & Clay: Shiny Objects or Real Help?
36:00 You Can’t Automate Trust – Shortcut Myth
40:00 Growth-Hack Tactics That Kill Pipeline
44:00 Fixing SDR Metrics with Market Validation
48:00 Timing, MQLs & Sales-Marketing Unity
52:00 Hard Questions, Tonality & Buyer Respect
56:00 Key Takeaways & Where to Find Leslie
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S07 E189 - The B2B Playbook
Most B2B marketers are told to “do thought leadership” and it becomes part of strategy... but no one tells them how to tie it back to revenue.
In this episode, we break down how to turn thought leadership into a trust-building, pipeline-generating machine. Not just fluff for likes and impressions.
We’ll show you how to build a strong point of view, map it to your buyer’s journey, and use thought leadership ads to hit the 95% of the market that isn’t ready to buy… yet.
Tune in and learn:
The 3 questions every POV must answer to resonate
Why most marketers fail at thought leadership (and how to fix it)
Our exact LinkedIn Ads system for turning content into pipeline
This episode is a must-watch if you want to move beyond vanity metrics and make your brand the one buyers remember when they’re ready to act.
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💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 How Thought Leadership Actually Builds Pipeline
02:00 The 5 Bs Framework Recap
04:00 Why Thought Leadership Often Fails
06:00 The 3 Questions to Shape Your POV
08:00 Using LinkedIn Ads to Amplify Trust
10:00 Mapping Content to the Buyer Journey
12:00 Why Subject Matter Experts Must Lead
14:00 The Real Goal: Being Remembered at Purchase Time
16:00 The Ogilvy Method for Ads that Educate & Convert
18:00 How to Measure Thought Leadership Ads
20:00 A Proven Framework for LinkedIn Thought Ads
22:00 Patagonia: B2C Thought Leadership Masterclass
24:00 How Patagonia Drives Profit Through POV
26:00 B2B Example: Rivet’s Framework for Labor Ops
28:00 Final Takeaways: Thought Leadership That Works
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S07 E188 - The B2B Playbook
Most B2B teams think outbound is just about activity. Book meetings, hit quota, move on.
But this week on The B2B Playbook, we sat down with Shawn Sease—aka The Professor of Prospecting—to expose why that model is broken.
Shawn’s seen it all. From old-school cold call sprints to modern GTM teams trying to do outbound in the age of AI. And he’s brutally honest about what actually works today.
Together, we unpack how to rebuild your sales development system around truth, timing, and trust—not just activity.
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
Why most sales development strategies fail before the first call
The power of cataloguing accounts (and why it's better than intent data)
How to build outbound systems that don’t collapse when your SDR quits
What real Sales and Marketing alignment looks like
Tune in and learn:
Why timing is a weak signal (and what to track instead)
How cataloguing transforms your outreach strategy
What great commercial architecture actually looks like
This episode is a must-watch if you’re a B2B marketer or sales leader who’s tired of outbound that doesn’t scale, and wants a better way to reach your market.
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💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 The Professor of Prospecting: Who Is Shawn Sease?
04:18 Why B2B Outbound Is Broken
07:43 Cold Calls Aren’t Dead—But Your Strategy Might Be
11:12 The Real Job of SDRs Today
14:40 Why Buyers Aren’t Listening to You Anymore
17:55 How to Build Trust Instead of Noise
21:01 Is Your Go-To-Market Strategy Just Tactics in Disguise?
24:46 Cataloguing: The Secret to Smarter Outreach
28:05 Feedback Loops That Actually Align Sales and Marketing
31:36 Why "Booked Meetings" Are a Broken Metric
35:14 The Role of Customer Success in Sales Development
38:46 Outbound Needs a System—Not Just a Script
42:33 Stop Chasing Timing—Start Building Permission
46:10 What Good Commercial Architecture Looks Like
49:22 The Future of Prospecting: What's Coming Next
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S07 E187 - The B2B Playbook
Most B2B marketers are stuck in the short term – chasing pipeline, tweaking LinkedIn Ads, and fighting for form fills.
This episode, we break down how to get out of that cycle – without dropping results.
We unpack the research (like The Long and the Short of It), the frameworks (like our 5 Stages of Awareness), and how small marketing teams can build brand and hit pipeline targets at the same time.
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
Why most marketers default to the short term (and how to break the habit)
The truth about diminishing returns in performance marketing
The role brand plays in lowering CAC and increasing sales velocity
How to map every activity to a stage of awareness using a unified framework
Tune in and learn:
Why only 5% of your market is ready to buy – and what to do with the other 95%
How brand building actually impacts the short term too
How to balance your marketing budget (even on limited resources)
This episode is a must-watch if you're in a small marketing team and trying to build a brand and drive pipeline – without burning your budget or your boss’s patience.
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💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 Brand vs Demand: The B2B Tug of War
02:55 Why Short-Term Wins Can Hurt Long-Term Growth
05:10 The Real Cost of Chasing MQLs
07:00 Diminishing Returns in Performance Marketing
08:45 Why B2B Brands Burn Out Too Fast
10:15 The Hidden Power of Brand Building
11:45 Brand vs Activation: Know the Difference
13:05 The 5 Stages of Awareness Explained
14:55 Mapping Content to Awareness Stages
16:30 Balancing Brand & Demand on a Budget
18:00 What 60/40 Really Means for B2B Marketers
19:35 How to Allocate Budget With Limited Resources
20:55 Avoiding the 'Do It All' Marketing Trap
22:05 Final Thoughts: Build for Now AND the Future
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S07 E186 - The B2B Playbook
Why Most B2B Sales Teams Are Failing (And How to Fix It)
Most B2B sales teams are stuck in outdated tactics – pushing for meetings, flooding inboxes, and hoping something sticks.
But that’s not how today’s buyer wants to buy.
In this episode, we sit down with Amarpreet Kalkat (Founder of Humantic AI) and our own Adem Manderovic (Co-founder of CRO School) to break down what’s broken in B2B sales – and what comes next.
We dive into how AI can be used to build trust, not spam, and how real commercial oversight starts with market validation, not meetings booked.
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
Why the predictable revenue model has failed us
How to segment and validate your market the right way
The DISC profiling framework that changes how you sell
Tune in and learn:
Why AI is wings for the good… but crutches for the lazy
The Dust Bowl of B2B sales – and how to escape it
How CRO School and Humantic AI fit together
If you’re in B2B and tired of tactics that don’t work anymore, this is a must-watch.
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💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 Why B2B Sales is Broken in 2025
03:00 What is Humantic AI & How It Works
06:00 What Broke B2B Go-To-Market (And How to Fix It)
08:45 How B2B Buyer Behaviour Has Radically Changed
11:30 Why Predictable Revenue Doesn’t Work Anymore
13:45 Lessons from the Australian Market
16:15 The Real Reason Teams Default to Volume
18:30 The 'Dust Bowl' Analogy of B2B Sales
21:00 Why Most B2B Sales Teams Are Stuck in 2010
23:30 What Market Validation Actually Means
26:30 DISC Profiles: Stop Selling to Personas
30:00 Matching Message, Timing & Channel with Buyer Personality
33:00 Why AI Makes Lazy Sellers Worse, Not Better
37:00 Why GTM Tools Can't Replace Commercial Sense
40:00 The Rise of Full-Cycle Selling & Death of the SDR Model
43:00 Will AI Replace Bad Sellers? Amarpreet’s Warning
46:30 Fitness, Spinal Injuries & The Grit Behind CRO School
49:30 Why No Kid Wants to Be a Salesperson (But Should!)
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S07 E185 - The B2B Playbook
How Far Should You Niche Down? (And How to Know You’ve Got It Right)
Most marketers are targeting too broadly—and it’s killing their go-to-market.
In this episode, we walk you through how to find your Minimum Viable Market—the smallest audience that can sustain your business and evangelize your solution.
We’ll show you how to use your existing data and customer base to define a market you can actually win, instead of burning budget trying to win everyone.
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
Why niching down feels scary—but works
How to use the 80/20 rule to uncover your best (and worst) customers
How to test and validate if your niche is big enough to sustain your business
Tune in and learn:
The full step-by-step process to finding your Minimum Viable Market
Real examples of how to apply firmographic, demographic, and psychographic filters
How to reposition your business over time without losing momentum
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer struggling to get cut-through in a crowded market. If you’re stuck trying to build pipeline, this is the most important strategy you’re probably missing.
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💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency
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00:00 How Far Should You Niche Down?
01:00 Why Niching Down Feels Risky (But Works)
02:10 Broad Targeting Is Killing Your Cut-Through
03:40 The Greek Wedding Analogy: Why Specificity Wins
05:00 Seth Godin's Take on Minimum Viable Market
06:10 How to Spot Underserved Niches
07:30 Step 1: Start With an 80/20 Customer Analysis
08:30 Revenue Isn’t Everything: Find Profitable Segments
09:50 What to Look for in Your Dream Customers
11:00 Real Example: ESG and the Modern Slavery Act
12:40 Step 2: Catalog Your Market and Validate Demand
14:00 What If Your Market Is Too Small (or Big)?
15:30 Don’t Forget to Call Your Churned Accounts
16:30 Our Journey: From Broad B2B to Demand Gen Marketers
17:40 Why You Can (And Should) Reposition Over Time
18:40 Final Takeaways: Nail Your Niche and Expand Later
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S07 E184 - The B2B Playbook
How to Use AI to Cut Customer Research Time in Half
Most B2B marketers know customer research is crucial, but gathering and acting on insights can be so time consuming.
This week, we're breaking down exactly how you can leverage AI tools to dramatically speed up your customer research - without losing the valuable depth and insights you rely on.
We've experimented extensively and will share the exact process that allows marketers in small teams to finally complete customer interviews efficiently. Using AI the right way can transform qualitative data into clear, actionable insights faster than ever.
Tune in and learn:
The best AI tools for transcribing and summarizing customer interviews
How to avoid common pitfalls (like AI hallucinations!)
The quickest way to build accurate, insightful customer avatars
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers tired of customer research always falling off the to-do list.
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00:00 How to Accelerate B2B Research with AI
01:09 Quick Recap: Our Proven '5 BEs Framework'
02:39 Why Customer Interviews Keep Getting Ignored
04:00 The Truth About AI and Customer Research
05:52 Can AI Really Replace Qualitative Research?
08:48 The Best AI Tools for Recording & Transcription
11:15 How AI Summarizes Customer Conversations
12:11 Real-Life Example: Quick Customer Insights Capture
13:19 Crucial Step: Validate Your AI Findings
14:43 Creating Your Dream Customer Avatar with AI
15:15 Advanced Tip: Custom GPT for Deep Insights
16:00 Aligning Marketing, Sales, and Product Teams with AI
16:36 Key Watch-outs When Using AI in Research
17:41 Avoid AI Hallucinations with These Simple Steps
18:46 Secrets to Capturing Powerful Customer Quotes
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S07 E183 - The B2B Playbook
Most B2B teams obsess over defining their Ideal Customer Profile (ICP). But what about the people you should never market to?
This week, we reveal why defining your Anti-ICP is just as critical as your ICP—and how doing so could save your team thousands in wasted ad spend, misaligned sales efforts, and churned customers.
We also share the powerful go-to-market process of Cataloguing the Market—a strategy that helps you validate who’s actually a good fit before you waste a single dollar on ads or outbound.
Tune in and learn:
How to identify and define your Anti-ICP (with examples)
The 80/20 analysis that reveals who’s a drag on your business
Why Cataloguing the Market gives you unfair timing advantage
If you’re tired of spending time and money chasing the wrong accounts—or if you’re looking to finally build a sustainable demand engine = this episode is a must-watch.
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00:00 Stop Wasting Time on the Wrong Customers
01:06 What is the 5 BEs Framework?
02:19 Why You Need an Anti-ICP
03:20 $10K Wasted on the Wrong Fit
05:31 How to Identify Your Anti-ICP
06:49 Ask Your Team: Who Do You Hate Working With?
07:49 Documenting Red Flag Customers
08:28 Firmographics vs Demographics
09:36 Use Case Clarity: Where You Deliver Value
10:35 What Anti-ICPs Tell You About the Buying Committee
11:04 What is “Cataloguing the Market”?
12:19 How Cataloguing Prevents Wasted Spend
13:31 Why Predictable Revenue Broke Go-To-Market
14:43 How Timing Drives Smarter Spend
16:34 Precision Over Pressure: Striking at the Right Time
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S07 E182 - The B2B Playbook
Why Your B2B GTM Strategy Needs the 5 BEs Framework Now
Most B2B marketing frameworks only show you part of the picture. But in 2025, you need one complete system to align brand, demand, and sales around your Ideal Customer.
That’s why we created the 5 BEs Framework.
This week, we show you how to move beyond demand generation and build a complete go-to-market strategy—tailor-made for small B2B teams.
We’ve used the 5 BEs to help B2B marketers in both small and large orgs drive more pipeline, get sales and leadership buy-in, and scale trust across the entire buying journey.
Tune in and learn:
How the 5 Stages of Awareness connect brand and demand
Why Demand Gen marketers are the new GTM Architects
How to scale trust and pipeline—without more headcount
This episode is a must-watch if you’re in a small marketing team and need a single system to punch above your weight, align your org, and make marketing finally feel like it's working.
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00:00 Why Small Teams Need a Complete GTM Framework Now
01:00 The Origin Story of the 5 BEs Framework
02:20 Should Brand and Demand Be Separate?
03:50 One Budget, One Team: The Reality of Small Team Marketing
05:20 Why Demand Gen Marketers Need to Think Bigger
07:00 How the 5 Stages of Awareness Connect Brand & Demand
08:40 Making Brand and Demand Work in Tandem
10:20 The Power of Aligning Around Your ICP
12:00 How Demand Gen Marketers Act as GTM Connectors
13:40 BE HELPFUL: The Secret to Trust-Based Content
15:20 How to Cut Through the Noise With Meaningful Content
17:00 BE SEEN: Amplifying Trust With Smart Distribution
19:00 Avoiding the Disconnect Between Brand & Performance
21:00 BE BETTER: Operational Efficiency & Continuous Testing
23:00 BE THE BEST: Where AI & Innovation Power the Flywheel
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S07 E181 - The B2B Playbook
Why is go-to-market still broken in B2B?
Because nobody owns the commercial outcome.
In this pivotal episode of The B2B Playbook, we sit down with Carolyn Dilks (co-founder of Passetto) and Adem Manderovic (co-founder of CRO School) to unpack why sales, marketing, and customer success continue to operate in silos—and what needs to change.
This isn’t another “alignment” chat.
It’s a practical blueprint for rebuilding GTM around commercial oversight, financial accountability, and real market validation—not just KPIs that make the dashboard look good.
We cover:
How Predictable Revenue broke GTM—and what comes next
Why “meetings booked” is a destructive metric
The missing role of commercial acumen in sales and marketing
What Passetto does to bridge GTM and finance
How CRO School is restoring financial ownership across revenue teams
And why this isn’t a fix at the department level—it’s a top-down restructure
If your GTM strategy feels reactive, misaligned, or just plain inefficient—this conversation is your roadmap to a commercially viable, scalable system.
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00:00:56 – Why GTM Teams Are Still Broken in 2025
00:04:00 – The Fallout from Predictable Revenue: Modeling Gone Wrong
00:08:07 – The Finance-GTM Gap Nobody Talks About
00:12:10 – Why MQLs & Siloed Metrics Kill Growth
00:16:10 – Why Weekly Syncs Don’t Fix Misalignment
00:20:10 – The Meetings Metric Is Breaking Your Funnel
00:24:20 – Churn Isn’t a CS Problem—It’s a GTM Problem
00:28:20 – What a Real CRO Should Own (and Why Most Don’t)
00:32:25 – What Passetto Does to Fix GTM Blind Spots
00:36:30 – Closed Circuit Selling: A GTM Framework That Works
00:40:30 – Why BDRs Are Operating in a Black Hole
00:44:35 – Final Thoughts & Where to Learn More
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S07 E180 - The B2B Playbook
How to Land 6-Figure Deals with LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads
Want to get clients on LinkedIn using ads that actually build trust and drive pipeline? This is the playbook.
We’re walking you through the exact LinkedIn ads strategy we use to land six-figure deals for ourselves and our clients—without spamming inboxes or relying on outdated lead gen tactics.
This is our B2B demand generation system—powered by LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads—that’s working across SaaS, consulting, and service businesses. If you're in a small marketing team and tired of wasting budget on low-quality leads, this episode will change how you market forever.
You’ll learn how to:
Map your LinkedIn content to the five stages of awareness
Use thought leadership marketing to build trust at scale
Combine paid media and outbound to unlock high-intent conversations
Watch this if you:
Want a scalable way to generate demand on LinkedIn
Need a better B2B LinkedIn ad strategy that drives revenue
Are trying to get in front of ideal customers with zero brand awareness
We show you how to tie content, ads, and outbound together to consistently book meetings and grow pipeline. It’s the same framework behind our $10K/month retainers—and it works for any B2B brand.
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers who want to use LinkedIn to win high-value deals—and build a marketing engine that scales.
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02:20 What Are LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads?
03:40 Proof It Works: Real $10K/Month Deal From These Ads
05:00 Why Most Thought Leadership Ad Campaigns Fail
07:00 Boosting Posts ≠ Strategy: The Common Mistake
09:00 The 3-Month Trust-Building Window (Case Study Insight)
11:00 You Need This Before You Run Any LinkedIn Ads
12:40 Our Full Demand Gen Framework Behind These Ads
14:20 Mapping Ads To The 5 Stages of Awareness
16:00 Unaware to Most Aware: The Buyer Journey Blueprint
18:00 How to Create a Thought Leadership Content Matrix
20:00 Cold vs Warm Audiences: What Content to Serve
21:40 How We Target & Build Audiences That Convert
23:00 Ideal Ad Frequency: What LinkedIn Won’t Tell You
24:40 Our Secret Ad Sequencing Hack That Lowers Costs
27:00 Real Client Wins: Social Proof You Can Copy
29:00 When To Combine Ads With Sales for Bigger Wins
30:40 The KPIs That Actually Matter (And What to Ignore)
34:00 Final Thoughts & Where To Learn More
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S07 E179 - The B2B Playbook
Sales Methodologies Are Killing Your Revenue Team
Most sales teams swear by Gap, Challenger, or Spin.
But these sales methodologies were never designed to align your go-to-market team.
In this episode, we sit down with Adem Manderovic — co-founder of Chief Revenue School and creator of Closed Circuit Selling — to break down why these systems are failing modern revenue teams.
We explore the commercial damage caused by Predictable Revenue, why CROs from sales backgrounds often lack the full commercial picture, and how Closed Circuit Selling provides a revenue alignment system that scales.
Tune in and learn:
Why Predictable Revenue broke marketing, sales, and CS alignment
How to engage 100% of your market — not just the 5% in-market
The new commercial architecture for efficient GTM teams
This episode is a must-watch for founders, marketers, and sales leaders who are sick of operating in silos and want a proven system to unify the go-to-market function.
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00:00 Predictable Revenue Broke B2B Alignment
02:00 Why Sales Methodologies Are Failing GTM Teams
04:00 The Commercial Damage of Old Sales Models
06:00 Sales & Marketing Misalignment: A Systemic Issue
08:00 Why Most CROs Don’t Understand True Revenue Oversight
10:00 What Actually Counts as a Sale?
12:00 How Commercial Career Progression Used to Work
14:00 Marketing Became a Lead Gen Machine
16:00 The 95/5 Rule: You’re Ignoring 95% of Buyers
18:00 A Better Way to Do Outbound (Roleplay)
20:00 Cataloging: A Buyer-Centric Sales Motion
22:00 Sales Enabling Real Marketing Again
24:00 How Predictable Revenue Changed the Metrics
26:00 Why CROs Have Never Seen Full GTM Alignment
28:00 Australia’s Advantage: Precision in Small Markets
30:00 Revenue Alignment Systems Are the Future
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S07 E178 - The B2B Playbook
Why Your Thought Leadership Isn’t Working (And How To Fix It)
Most B2B marketers and founders are investing in thought leadership—but seeing zero results.
In this episode, we sat down with LinkedIn Ads expert Justin Rowe (Founder of Impactable) and SaaS marketing leader Rohit Srivastav (FleetPanda, S11s) to break down why your content isn’t landing—and what to do about it.
We get into the biggest mistakes brands make, how to build an audience that actually cares, and how to get your founders and team to consistently create thought leadership without it becoming a chore.
Tune in and learn:
Why most thought leadership fails before it even begins
How to build an audience of your ideal customers (from scratch)
The systems you can use to generate expert content every week
This episode is a must-watch for anyone trying to build brand, trust, and pipeline in 2025. Whether you’re a founder, a marketer, or just trying to stand out—this one’s packed with practical playbooks you can start using today..
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00:00 Why No One’s Listening to Your LinkedIn Content
02:25 The #1 Mistake Marketers Make With Thought Leadership
04:00 Talk With, Not At: Building Real Audience Connection
06:15 How to Rebuild Your Audience From Scratch
08:10 Rohit’s 30-Minute a Day LinkedIn Growth Playbook
10:05 Justin’s 15-a-Day Strategy to Build a Dream Network
12:35 Why You’re Still Not Breaking Through the Noise
14:45 The “Pond vs Ocean” Content Strategy
16:25 Founders Who Hate Posting: How to Get Them Started
20:05 Should Founders or Brands Lead Thought Leadership?
22:15 Corporate Pages Are Dead… Or Are They?
26:35 How B2C Brands Are Crushing LinkedIn Creativity
28:45 Rohit’s Simple Playbook for Founder Content
32:10 What You Can (and Can’t) Outsource in Thought Leadership
36:00 Running Thought Leadership Ads That Actually Work
39:00 How to Measure Real Success in Thought Leadership
41:10 Beyond LinkedIn: Where Else to Build Thought Leadership
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S07 E177 - The B2B Playbook
Sales and marketing teams often feel worlds apart—competing priorities, clashing strategies, and constant miscommunication. But it doesn't have to be that way.
In this episode, we break down how sales and marketing can finally get aligned, collaborate effectively, and drive more revenue by working smarter—not harder. We reveal practical steps for modern B2B teams to bridge the gap, streamline their processes, and tackle today's toughest growth challenges together.
Tune in and learn:
The critical mistake keeping your teams misaligned
How to build a powerful sales & marketing partnership
Why modern sales and marketing alignment is your key growth lever
This is a must-watch episode for sales and marketing professionals who are tired of internal friction and want clear, actionable strategies for winning as one unified team.
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00:00 Introduction: A Smarter Approach to Sales & Marketing Alignment
02:43 Why Sales and Marketing Still Clash Today
05:35 Identifying Internal Issues Holding You Back
07:13 How Demand Generation Fuels Alignment
09:44 Understanding Your Buyer’s True Journey
12:43 Aligning Incentives & KPIs Across Teams
16:50 How Marketers Can Support Sales Better
20:03 The Role of AI & Tech in Modern Alignment
23:25 Getting the Fundamentals Right First
26:56 Proven Ways to Integrate Sales & Marketing
33:00 Creative Compensation Structures that Work
37:00 Avoiding the SDR Revolving Door Problem
38:41 Breaking Down Internal Marketing Silos
44:29 Building an Aligned Content Engine
52:07 The 5-Step Framework for Smarter Collaboration
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S07 E176 - The B2B Playbook
We all know video content works, but are you really leveraging it to its full potential?
In this episode, we're joined by Lindsay McGuire from Goldcast to share an actionable strategy called "Video First Distribution"—designed specifically for small B2B teams to punch way above their weight.
Lindsay dives deep into how and why video effectively captures mindshare, engages your audience authentically, and drives significant business results.
We’ll share how to easily repurpose existing videos to amplify your campaigns and even reveal the exact LinkedIn strategy that landed a 35% conversion rate—without any extra spend!
Tune in and learn:
Why capturing mindshare with video sets you up for long-term success
Easy ways to repurpose your existing videos into fresh content
How to run high-conversion campaigns using video on LinkedIn
This episode is a must-watch for marketers who want to cut through the noise, engage their audience authentically, and maximize ROI from existing video assets.
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00:00 Every Campaign Needs Video—Here's Why
02:10 Meet Lindsay McGuire from Goldcast
05:00 Why Mindshare Matters for Your Brand
08:17 Why Video is Essential for B2B Marketing
11:07 What "Video First" Distribution Actually Means
13:22 The Untapped Power of Webinars
16:13 How to Repurpose Existing Videos Effectively
19:14 The Simplest Short Form Video Formats You Can Use Now
21:21 Easy Product Release Videos That Convert
24:00 How to Leverage Employee Videos to Go Viral
27:51 The LinkedIn Video Play that Achieved 35% Conversion
30:10 Simple Ways to Optimize Videos for LinkedIn
32:02 Creating Controversial Clips to Stop the Scroll
34:05 How to Quickly Find Your Best Clips with AI
36:00 Key Takeaways & Next Steps
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S07 E175 - The B2B Playbook
Stop Overpaying: Mastering LinkedIn & Meta Ads for B2B
We created this episode to show how we combine LinkedIn and Meta for more cost-effective B2B advertising.
We cover why LinkedIn is so expensive but still the best place to precisely reach your dream customers, and how we then use Meta to retarget them at a fraction of the cost.
You’ll hear exactly how to apply our five stages of awareness, so you always share the right content at the right time.
Tune in and learn:
The biggest mistakes we see B2B marketers make on LinkedIn
How to build laser-focused ICP audiences that actually convert
Simple ways to slash your ad spend by using Meta strategically
This episode is a must-watch because we show you how to spend less, convert more, and keep your boss and sales team happy.
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers looking for real, practical insights on career growth, community, and the future of marketing.
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00:00 From Lawyer to Marketer: Axel’s Unexpected Career Pivot
04:00 What It’s Really Like Being an In-House B2B Marketer
07:30 The Challenges of Growing a SaaS Marketing Team
10:50 How to Work Effectively with Sales as a Marketer
14:20 The Realities of Building a Marketing Funnel from Scratch
17:40 Why Most B2B Marketing Strategies Fail
21:00 Live Events Are Back – But Should You Host One?
25:00 The Birth of the Generate Community
28:40 How to Build a B2B Community That Actually Works
32:30 The Power of Learning from Other Marketers
36:50 The Future of Generate and What’s Next for Axel
40:30 Final Thoughts: Why Community is the Future of B2B Marketing
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S07 E174 - The B2B Playbook
Building a thriving community and life as an in-house marketer.
Being an in-house B2B marketer comes with unique challenges—tight budgets, small teams, and the constant struggle to prove impact. But what if there was a way to get support, learn faster, and grow together?
In this episode, we sit down with Axel Sukianto, former Marketing Director at UpGuard and co-founder of Generate, the go-to B2B marketing community in ANZ. We discuss what it’s really like working in-house, how Axel transitioned from law to marketing, and why he built a private Slack community that’s now thriving.
If you're tired of figuring it all out alone, this is the episode for you.
Tune in and learn:
The biggest challenges in-house B2B marketers face (and how to solve them)
Why community is becoming a MUST for B2B marketers
How Axel built Generate into a 300+ member strong B2B marketing hub
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers looking for real, practical insights on career growth, community, and the future of marketing.
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00:00 From Lawyer to Marketer: Axel’s Unexpected Career Pivot
04:00 What It’s Really Like Being an In-House B2B Marketer
07:30 The Challenges of Growing a SaaS Marketing Team
10:50 How to Work Effectively with Sales as a Marketer
14:20 The Realities of Building a Marketing Funnel from Scratch
17:40 Why Most B2B Marketing Strategies Fail
21:00 Live Events Are Back – But Should You Host One?
25:00 The Birth of the Generate Community
28:40 How to Build a B2B Community That Actually Works
32:30 The Power of Learning from Other Marketers
36:50 The Future of Generate and What’s Next for Axel
40:30 Final Thoughts: Why Community is the Future of B2B Marketing
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S07 E173 - The B2B Playbook
How to Talk to Customers & Actually Learn Something (The Right Way)
Most B2B marketers THINK they’re doing customer research… but they’re doing it all wrong.
This week, we’re joined by customer research expert Ryan Paul Gibson to show you how to actually talk to customers and uncover golden insights that drive revenue.
Ryan has conducted over 2,000 customer interviews, and he’s going to break down exactly how to structure your conversations so you stop wasting time and start getting actionable data.
Here’s what we cover in this episode:
Why most marketers are FAILING at customer research
The simple process to run 1-on-1 interviews that reveal real insights
How B2B buyers actually make decisions (Hint: It’s NOT the funnel)
Tune in and learn:
The 4 types of customer interviews you NEED to be doing
The best questions to ask to uncover buyer motivations
How to get people to actually agree to customer interviews
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to level up their demand generation strategy and actually understand what their customers care about.
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00:00 How to Talk to Customers & Actually Learn Something
02:10 The Big Mistake Marketers Make with Customer Interviews
04:30 Why 1-on-1 Conversations Are the BEST Research Method
06:50 How B2B Buyers REALLY Make Decisions (It’s Not a Funnel!)
09:10 The 4 Types of Customer Interviews You Should Be Doing
12:00 How to Set Up a Customer Interview That Gets Real Insights
14:40 Who You Should Be Interviewing (And Who to Avoid)
18:20 The BEST Way to Get People to Agree to Customer Interviews
22:00 How to Ask Questions That Uncover Golden Insights
25:10 What to Do When People Don’t Want to Talk to You
28:40 The Secret to Getting Buyers to Reveal Their REAL Motivations
32:00 How to Analyze Customer Interviews & Turn Data into Action
36:00 Real-World Examples of Customer Research Transforming Businesses
39:30 How to Use Customer Research to Improve Marketing & Sales
42:00 Key Takeaways & Where to Start Today
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S07 E172 - The B2B Playbook
How We Launched a Virtual Event in 8 Weeks (And Got 500+ Registrants!)
We’re breaking down exactly how we launched our first-ever virtual event in just 8 weeks. This event featured 12 expert speakers, brought in over 500 targeted registrants, and even had a sponsor to cover all our costs. Most importantly, it generated pipeline and revenue. And we’re sharing the entire virtual event playbook with you!
If you’re thinking about running a virtual event, but you’re overwhelmed by the planning, marketing, and execution—this is for you. We cover everything from picking the right topic to driving registrations and keeping attendees engaged.
Tune in and learn:
How to pick the perfect event theme that attracts the right audience
The secret to landing top-tier speakers (even if you have no budget!)
How we got 500+ highly targeted registrants in just a few weeks
The must-have assets for a seamless event (brand kits, promo videos, and more)
The #1 mistake marketers make when running virtual events
What we’d do differently if we were launching an event again
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to drive real business results with virtual events. Whether you’re running webinars or large-scale summits, you’ll walk away with actionable strategies to make your event a success.
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00:00 Launching Our First Virtual Event – Here’s How
04:00 Why Virtual Events Work for B2B Marketers
08:00 The Three Key Phases of a Virtual Event
12:00 How We Chose the Perfect Theme and Audience
16:00 Landing Big-Name Speakers for Your Event
20:00 The Collateral You Need for a Successful Event
24:00 The Promo Video Strategy That Drove Signups
28:00 How We Got 500+ Registrants in Just 8 Weeks
32:00 Getting Speakers to Promote the Event for You
36:00 Engaging Your Audience During the Event
40:00 The Secrets to Seamless Event Execution
44:00 The Importance of Post-Event Follow-Up
48:00 Why Thoughtful Speaker Gifts Matter
52:00 Turning Your Event Into Evergreen Content
56:00 Final Thoughts & Lessons Learned
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S07 E171 - The B2B Playbook
The Simple 3-Step B2B Demand Generation Strategy for 2025
Want to contribute more to your company’s pipeline? This episode breaks down the exact 3-step strategy that turns demand generation from a buzzword into a revenue-driving machine.
Most B2B marketers struggle because they only focus on capturing demand. But if you’re only targeting in-market buyers (just 5% of your audience), you’re leaving 95% of potential revenue untapped.
In this episode, we share the 3 core steps of a winning B2B demand generation strategy for 2025 that not only captures demand but also creates and nurtures future buyers.
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The 95/5 rule and why your ads aren’t scaling
How to align your strategy with your best-fit customers
The easiest way to create and distribute demand-driving content
If you want higher-quality leads, better sales alignment, and scalable revenue growth, this episode is for you.
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00:00:00 Introduction: The 3-Step Demand Generation Strategy for 2025
00:01:53 What is Demand Generation? Breaking it Down
00:04:51 The 95/5 Rule: Why Most Businesses Struggle to Scale
00:07:31 The 5 Stages of Awareness: Understanding Your Buyers
00:09:44 Why Future Buyers Are More Valuable Than In-Market Buyers
00:12:31 Real-Life Examples: Why Familiarity Wins in B2B
00:15:08 The Demand Generation Strategy for 2025: Key Objectives
00:18:13 Step 1: Be Ready – Identifying Your Ideal Customer
00:20:58 How to Conduct an 80/20 Analysis to Find Your Best Customers
00:23:56 Step 2: Be Helpful – Building Trust with Content
00:27:18 Creating a Content Repurposing System for Maximum Reach
00:29:53 Step 3: Be Seen – The Best Ways to Distribute Content
00:31:50 Paid vs Organic: How to Reach Your Niche Audience Efficiently
00:33:45 A Real-World Example: How We Run Our Demand Gen Strategy
00:36:04 Final Takeaways & Key Lessons for 2025
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S07 E170 - The B2B Playbook
Most marketers spend months creating content - only to watch it flop. But what if you could test your ideas first, so you only invest in content that actually works?
That’s exactly what Jess Cook, Head of Content at Island and co-host of the That’s Marketing, Baby podcast, reveals in this episode. She shares her Minimum Viable Content (MVC) Framework—a simple way to test content ideas before you go all in.
We dive into real-world examples, including:
A breakup letter that made IT professionals laugh (and convert!)
A viral quiz that unexpectedly blew up on social media
The hidden content signals that tell you whether your idea will work
Tune in and learn:
How to test content ideas without wasting time
What makes a piece of content go viral
The must-have ingredients for high-performing content
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to level up their content strategy with a data-driven approach.
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00:00 Welcome to Full Circle 2024 with Jess Cook!
01:10 The Power of Minimum Viable Content (MVC)
03:00 Why MVC Should Be Part of Your Content Strategy
06:00 How MVC Helps You Test and Save Time
09:00 Real-World Example: Testing Ideas Before Big Campaigns
12:30 What Makes a Great Minimum Viable Content?
16:00 The 3 Essential Ingredients of High-Performing MVCs
20:00 What NOT to Include in Your First Content Test
24:00 The Secret to Measuring MVC Success
27:00 When an Idea Works – and When It Fails
31:00 How a Viral Quiz Almost Became the Next Wordle
35:00 Why Even Great Ideas Sometimes Flop
38:00 The Sweet Spot: How to Pick the Right Ideas to Test
42:00 Using MVC to Prioritize Your Marketing Efforts
46:00 Final Takeaways – How to Start Using MVC Today
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S06 E169 - The B2B Playbook
We all have limited time, budget, and resources. So to make an outsized impact, small B2B marketing teams need to take a narrower approach to segmentation. But how do you actually do this? Marketing, sales and revenue expertd Adem Manderovic and George Coudounaris are going to share their proven process to not only segment the market, but deeply understand it and build trust with it.
You'll learn how to:
Identify your best-fit customers
Build a roadmap of their buying journey
Find out who is in-market vs out-of-market - so you know who to focus your attention on.
Even better - Adem will show you how to do this without the fancy tools and tech!
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00:00 Introduction: Sales-Marketing Alignment
03:00 The Predictable Revenue Model: Why It’s Broken
06:30 Market Segmentation: Your Competitive Advantage
10:00 Why Narrow Targeting Drives Better Results
13:30 Scoring Your Best Customers Effectively
17:00 Firmographics, Psychographics, and Personas Explained
20:30 Permission-Based Creative: Standing Out to Buyers
24:00 Educating the 95%: Out-of-Market Strategies
27:30 Cataloging the Market: A Step-by-Step Guide
31:00 Building Feedback Loops Between Sales and Marketing
34:30 Final Takeaways: Better Go-to-Market Strategies
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S06 E168 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we sat down with Sam Kuehnle, VP of Marketing at Loxo, to uncover why predictable revenue models might be holding your business back. We dive deep into the pitfalls of outdated sales tactics and explore how Loxo's approach to demand generation is driving real results.
If you're a B2B marketer looking to align sales and marketing, create meaningful demand, and build lasting relationships with your audience, this episode is for you.
Tune in and learn:
Why churn and burn sales tactics are unsustainable
How to align marketing and sales around shared goals
The difference between being data-driven vs. data-informed
This episode is a must-watch for marketers ready to ditch old playbooks and embrace strategies that actually work.
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00:00:00 The Problem with Predictable Revenue
00:01:27 Meet Sam Kuehnle: VP of Marketing at Loxo
00:02:37 What is Loxo? Revolutionizing Talent Intelligence
00:05:01 Why Loxo Needed Brand Awareness, Not Just Demand
00:07:18 The Difference Between Brand Awareness and Demand Creation
00:09:23 The Obsession with Quantity Growth Strategies
00:12:06 Negative Touch Points: The Hidden Cost of Cold Outreach
00:16:10 Why Churn and Burn Tactics Are Unsustainable
00:18:20 Building a Consultative Marketing-Sales Relationship
00:22:03 Aligning ICPs and Segments Across Teams
00:25:20 Sharing Goals: The Secret to Team Collaboration
00:30:22 Data-Informed, Not Data-Driven: Shifting the Marketing Mindset
00:36:01 How Podcasts and Content Build Brand Affinity
00:42:12 Cutting Paid Search: Why Loxo Focused on Efficiency
00:47:17 The Power of Speaking to Problems, Not Products
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S06 E167 - The B2B Playbook
Demand capture gets a bad rap.
But we know how important it is.
We’re just trying to change how it’s utilised for the better!
This week we’re joined by Silvio Perez, who shares his amazing and practical insights on another great use case for demand capture channels, scaling and getting the initial boost you need to build your demand creation engine.
In his role as Head of Product Innovation at Metadata.io and running AdConversion, he’s taking practical learnings from very real tests. He’s sharing that knowledge opening and giving us and you listeners the inside scoop of exactly what to do to get started.
There’s a ton of practical advice and value from this episode. Even as seasoned performance marketers, we’re still learning and swapping tips and tricks! Be sure to tune into this week’s episode for more!
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Silvio Perez LinkedIn Profile
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Neuroscience and B2B marketing.
It seems like there’s a wide gulf between the two only the biggest of businesses and industry experts can bridge in their work.
But that’s not true! All you need is the knowledge of the key principles and some examples to help guide your thinking as you start to apply these ideas to better frame your own marketing efforts.
Chances are you’re already familiar with and actioning some of these things by applying The 5 Be’s Framework, in which we’ve baked in a lot of these ideas!
We start our miniseries on Neuroscience by looking at the principles of reciprocity and consistency.
While we try not to play too many mind tricks, there’s certainly a few levers here you’ll be able to pull to better help your dream customers!
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06:10 The Power of Triggers: Mother Turkeys' Instinct
13:10 Introduction: The Power of Reciprocity
14:00 Building Relationships through Giving
15:30 The Principle of Reciprocity in Action
17:00 Giving Value without Expectations
18:20 Commitment and Consistency in Marketing
19:50 Cognitive Dissonance and Consistency
22:20 Small Commitments Leading to Bigger Actions
23:50 Nurturing Relationships with Value
24:50 Moving Up the Value Chain
27:00 Conclusion and Recap
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S05 E107 - The B2B Playbook
CABs, Customer Advocacy Boards.
Little known wonders of the B2B marketing toolkit.
While they’re not right for every business and for every stage of growth, it’s an important one to cover off. Because it could help you close the loop on the growth cycle.
We get another truly helpful expert, this time in CABs, to come talk to us all about it in this week’s episode. Taylor Bogar joins us right in the midst of building another set of CABs, sharing some market leading insights on them!
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Our guest this week almost needs no introduction!
Setting aside the fanboying from us, our guest share some real marketing wisdom that we’re sure everyone can benefit from!
Rand Fishkin, probably well known to most of our listeners, is the founder of SparkToro - an audience research tool that we’ll get into more in the episode. He’s also the Cofounder of Moz, one of the world’s largest SEO companies.
He and the team at SparkToro are doing amazing things to help the little guys when it comes to audience research and doing the type of marketing that just doesn’t work for the big boys in town. And that’s a good thing!
He generously share some of his view points, which we couldn’t agree more with here at The B2B Playbook.
Some key highlights:
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Explore the power of building an education ecosystem and discover how leading brands like HubSpot and Segment have mastered this approach. Learn about the Five B Framework and how it can transform your marketing strategies.
As we get into further areas of study, one such area to look further into is education ecosystems.
Why do companies invest so much time into building an education hub? What are the benefits, and what are examples of good and bad ones?
In this episode, we’re exploring those questions as well as how to go about building one for yourself.
It’s the next level up on being helpful with your content. And one that has a lot of impact. But only if it’s right for your business!
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00:00 Introduction: Building an Education Ecosystem
01:00 The Five B Framework Overview
02:00 The Role of Education in Brand Building
03:00 AI's Influence in Modern Marketing
04:20 Real-world Examples: SAS Platform
05:10 HubSpot and Segment as Leading Examples
06:40 The Pain Points in B2B Marketing
07:50 The Power of an Education Ecosystem
13:30 Automating Knowledge for Business Growth
14:50 The Benefits of an Education Ecosystem
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S05 E106 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we sit down with Adrian Fagerlund, co-founder of Linkby, to explore how his revolutionary ad-tech platform is changing the game for brands and publishers. Linkby connects brands with the world's most prestigious publishers in record time while focusing on performance and measurability.
Learn how Linkby has scaled globally, their approach to trusted advisor sales, and why their reverse pitching feature is a game-changer.
Tune in and learn:
How Linkby helps brands scale content across major publishers
The role of communities and referrals in driving growth
Why trusted advisor sales lead to long-term success
This episode is a must-watch for marketers looking to stay ahead in content and PR innovation.
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00:00 Introduction: Meet Adrian Fagerlund and Linkby
03:00 What Is Linkby? Revolutionizing Content and Advertising
06:00 Overcoming the Chicken-and-Egg Problem in Startups
09:00 Redefining Sales: Trusted Advisors, Not Just Sellers
12:00 The Role of Team Alignment in Scaling Rapidly
15:00 Lessons from Pedestrian.tv: A Foundation for Linkby’s Success
18:00 Linkby’s Global Team Bonus System: Driving Collaboration
21:00 The Power of Communities and Referrals in Marketing
24:00 Performance PR: Working with Agencies and Affiliates
27:00 Exploring Linkby’s Reverse Pitching Feature
30:00 Feedback Loops: Improving Targeting and Aligning Teams
33:00 What’s Next for Linkby: Products and Innovations
38:00 Key Takeaways from the Conversation with Adrian Fagerlund
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S06 E166 - The B2B Playbook
We’re thrilled to have Ryan Reisert on this episode of The B2B Playbook! Ryan is an outbound sales coach, go-to-market consultant, and author of "Outbound Sales, No Fluff." He shares the secrets behind Phone Ready Leads—a revolutionary system that increases connect rates while saving time.
In this episode, we explore Ryan's journey, the math behind sales success, and how to align sales and marketing for greater efficiency. Ryan also breaks down his famous “buckets” process for prioritizing leads and how to catalogue your market to maximize results.
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Why connect rates matter and how to improve them
The importance of shifting from lead gen to demand gen
How to align sales and marketing for long-term growth
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers and sales teams ready to level up their outbound game.
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00:00 Introduction: Solving the Connect Rate Problem
02:00 Ryan’s Journey into Sales and Marketing
04:50 The Birth of Phone Ready Leads
07:30 Understanding Sales as Math and Strategy
10:20 Building Effective Lead Scoring Systems
13:00 The Role of Technology in Outbound Success
15:40 Shifting from Lead Gen to Demand Gen
18:30 Navigating the Buyer’s Pyramid
21:20 Aligning Sales and Marketing for Better Results
24:00 The Power of Personalization in Outbound
26:40 Training Reps for Consultative Outbound
29:20 Cataloging the Market: Strategies for Success
32:00 Creating a Unified Funnel for Sales and Marketing
35:00 How to Build Trust Through Quality Conversations
38:00 Final Thoughts and Call to Action
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S06 E165 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we explore whether Reddit can truly serve as a powerful demand generation channel for B2B marketers.
We dive into the potential of Reddit, why it’s gaining momentum in B2B, and how marketers can make the most of its unique community-driven platform. We also share real-life examples, common pitfalls, and strategies to test the waters on Reddit.
Tune in and learn:
How to determine if Reddit is right for your audience
Why Reddit’s organic reach is exploding
Practical tips for building trust and providing value on Reddit
This episode is a must-watch for marketers who want to stand out and connect authentically with their dream customers.
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00:00Introduction: Can Reddit Drive Demand Gen?
03:00The Five B's Framework Overview
06:00Why Reddit is Gaining B2B Momentum
09:00Evaluating Reddit for Your Dream Customers
12:00How to Be Genuine on Reddit
15:00Testing Messaging and Audience Alignment
18:00Reddit as a Resource for Marketers
21:00Organic Visibility and Longevity on Reddit
24:00Consultative Selling on Community Forums
27:00Common Mistakes Marketers Make on Reddit
30:00The Role of Self-Reported Attribution
33:00Real-Life Examples of Reddit Success
36:00Overcoming Reddit Ads Challenges
39:00Key Takeaways for B2B Reddit Strategies
42:00Closing Thoughts: Experiment and Learn
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S06 E164 - The B2B Playbook
Positioning is the ultimate tool for creating an outsized impact in your market. In this episode, we uncover how small B2B teams can use positioning to dominate their niche.
We discuss practical frameworks, highlight CRM market leaders like Salesforce and HubSpot, and share actionable steps to sharpen your positioning strategy.
Tune in and learn:
Why positioning matters more than ever in B2B
A 5-step framework to define and test your positioning
Real-life examples of positioning done right
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer who wants to understand how to use demand generation to elevate their brand and drive revenue.
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00:00 Introduction: Key Ingredient for Outsized Impact
02:00 What Is Positioning and Why It Matters
04:00 Market Leaders and the Power of Positioning
06:30 Examples of Great Positioning: Salesforce and Pipedrive
08:30 How Positioning Shapes CRM Markets
10:00 Steps to Define Your Positioning
12:00 Leveraging the 80/20 Rule in Positioning
14:00 Testing and Validating Your Positioning
15:30 Lessons from the B2B Incubator
16:30 Aligning Positioning Across Your Organization
17:30 Leadership Buy-In and Scaling Your Positioning
18:30 Final Takeaways on Positioning
19:00 Closing Thoughts and Key Lessons
19:10 How You Can Support the B2B Playbook
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S06 E163 - The B2B Playbook
This week we have artificial intelligence (AI) expert Drew Brucker show us how B2B marketers can use AI to get more done in less time - right now!
Drew has combined his unique experience as a top-notch B2B marketer, photographer and creative with his passion for A.I. In this session, he shows us two ways that B2B marketers can use A.I. to increase their productivity AND the quality of their work today.
Tune in and learn:
the attitude marketers should have to A.I. if they want to get the most out of it
how to use A.I. to build an outbound sequence
how to use Midjourney to create brand images your customers will love (at a fraction of the price)
Drew very kindly walks us through LIVE examples of prompting frameworks you can steal to execute the same in your own business.
Make sure you check out the screenshare from the 40 minute mark!
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00:03:30 AI's Practical Magic
00:06:20 Harnessing AI for Marketing Efficiency
00:15:00 AI's Role in Content Creation
00:24:00 Crafting a Visual Narrative with AI
00:27:00 AI's Role in Brand Storytelling
00:30:00 Leveraging AI for Brand Consistency
00:33:00 AI-Generated Creatives: A New Era
00:39:00 Crafting Captivating AI-Generated Emails
00:42:00 Perfecting Your Marketing with AI Iterations
01:00:08 Crafting Detailed Prompts for Midjourney
01:03:20 Generating and Iterating on Image Variations
01:07:10 Communicating Realism in AI-Generated Imagery
01:09:30 Leveraging Permutations in Image Generation
01:13:48 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps
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S05 E129 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we’re joined by Adam Holmgren, co-founder of Fibber and head of demand generation at Rillion. Together, we tackle the common myths surrounding demand generation, especially the idea that demand gen is simply lead gen in disguise. Spoiler: it’s not!
We discuss how demand generation plays an essential role in bridging the gap between brand and sales, offering sustainable B2B marketing practices that drive real results. From the misconceptions about “creating demand” to the role of personal branding, we explore it all.
Tune in and learn:
The critical differences between demand gen and lead gen
How to build brand awareness that’s sustainable and effective
Why demand gen is the missing link between sales and marketing
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer who wants to understand how to use demand generation to elevate their brand and drive revenue.
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00:00:00 Introduction: Debunking Demand Gen Myths
00:03:00 Demand Gen vs. Lead Gen: Clearing Up Confusion
00:06:30 Building Brand with Demand Gen
00:09:50 The 5 Stages of Awareness Explained
00:13:10 Personal Branding in B2B Marketing
00:17:00 The Role of Signals in Demand Gen
00:20:30 Demand Gen as the Glue Between Sales and Marketing
00:23:40 Beyond Attribution: Marketing Without Limits
00:27:20 Capturing Existing Demand vs. Creating New Demand
00:30:00 Addressing Criticism: Is Demand Gen Bad Marketing?
00:32:30 Visualizing Marketing Touchpoints for Better Results
00:34:00 Data-Informed Decisions in Modern Marketing
00:36:50 Performance Marketing vs. Demand Gen Approaches
00:39:10 Adopting a Consultative Go-To-Market Strategy
00:41:40 Final Thoughts and Takeaways
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S06 E161 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we break down our live SEO experiment and show how we went from zero to ranking #1 on Google for a high-intent keyword – "demand generation course" – in just 67 days.
We're sharing the exact steps we took, from building a winning landing page to leveraging powerful backlinks. Special guest Sam Dunning, B2B SEO expert, walks us through the key elements that drove our success, offering actionable insights for marketers at all levels.
You'll discover how to optimize your SEO strategy for maximum revenue impact, how to outcompete big brands in search rankings, and why 'money keywords' are essential for driving high-quality traffic and leads.
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How we ranked #1 in just 67 days for a competitive SEO keyword
The exact process we used to build effective backlinks
Why optimizing your landing page is critical for SEO success
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to level up their SEO game and drive more revenue for their business.
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00:00 Introduction: The SEO Experiment
04:05 Ranking #1 in Just 67 Days
07:50 Beating Competitors with SEO
11:43 Building a High-Impact Landing Page
15:35 Why Money Keywords Matter for Demand Gen
20:00 Boosting SEO with Backlinks
24:10 Leveraging Internal and External Links
29:13 Optimizing Your Content for Search Engines
32:37 Using Media to Enhance Your SEO Strategy
36:12 Maximizing SEO for Sales Enablement
39:13 Why Consistent SEO Effort is Key to Success
41:24 Future SEO Strategies: Scaling for Growth
43:07 Conclusion: Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts
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S06 E160 - The B2B Playbook
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How We Ranked #1 for Our B2B Keywords
In this episode, we’re diving into a live SEO experiment to see how fast we can rank for our money keywords, and you’ll learn the exact steps we take to do it.
We’ve got SEO expert Sam Dunning on board to guide us through competitor analysis, keyword selection, and building an optimized page to rank on Google.
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How to choose money keywords that convert
On-page SEO techniques that drive results
How to leverage backlinks and internal linking for faster rankings
This episode is a must-watch if you want to drive more traffic and leads to your business by ranking for the keywords that matter most!
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00:48 Sam Dunning’s SEO Strategy for Ranking Keywords
02:10 Case Study: Ranking “B2B SEO Agency” in 90 Days
05:18 Choosing Money Keywords: Demand Generation Course
07:39 Competitor Analysis: Cognism and CXL
10:40 Keyword Strategy: Course vs Program
12:30 Page Structure and On-Page SEO Basics
15:55 Crafting the Perfect Meta Title and Description
18:50 Creating a High-Converting Hero Section
22:12 Internal Linking: Boosting Crawlability and SEO
26:20 Leveraging Backlinks: Quick Wins for Authority
30:15 Using FAQs to Overcome Objections and Build Trust
34:10 Monitoring and Optimizing Over Time
37:45 Lessons Learned from Sam’s SEO Journey
41:12 Key Takeaways and Next Steps
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S06 E159 - The B2B Playbook
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This week we go into why your demand generation program isn’t driving the results you need and what you can do to fix it.
We’ve spent years working with B2B marketing teams of all sizes, and there are 5 common reasons we keep seeing demand generation programs fall short. Whether you’re missing out on knowing your ICP, not leveraging subject matter experts, or failing to align with sales, we’re here to guide you through it step by step.
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Why deeply understanding your ICP is critical to success
How to build trust using subject matter experts in your content
How to stay consistent and measure your results properly
This episode is a must-watch if you’re struggling to get the most out of your demand generation efforts. We’ll show you how to fix the top 5 issues and get your program back on track.
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00:00 Introduction: Why Demand Generation Fails
00:48 Overview of the 5 Bs Framework
01:45 Reason 1: Not Understanding Your ICP
04:30 The Importance of Qualitative Research
06:00 Reason 2: No Subject Matter Experts
08:50 Why Trust is Built on Expertise
10:45 Reason 3: Lack of Systems and Consistency
12:30 Building a Content Repurposing System
14:10 Demand Generation Takes Time
16:00 Reason 4: Poor Measurement of Success
18:30 Leading vs Lagging Indicators
19:45 Reason 5: Misalignment Between Sales and Marketing
21:30 Feedback Loops Between Sales and Marketing
23:00 Reason 6 (Bonus): Lack of Patience
24:40 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways
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S06 E158 - The B2B Playbook
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In this episode, George Coudounaris appears as a guest on the Denave podcast to share the secrets behind sustainable B2B growth. You'll learn how to move beyond lead generation and build demand that scales.
We cover everything from aligning sales and marketing teams to implementing Account-Based Marketing (ABM) effectively and using AI to repurpose content efficiently.
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Why lead generation alone isn’t enough to grow your business
How to implement the 5 B’s Framework for demand generation
Common ABM mistakes and how to avoid them
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers looking to create sustainable, long-term growth while avoiding the common pitfalls that many teams fall into. Don’t miss out on the future of demand generation!
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00:00 Introduction to George and the B2B Playbook
03:00 The Great Divide: Misalignment Between Sales and Marketing
07:10 Overcoming Sales and Marketing Alignment Challenges
10:00 The 10-Step Guide to Sales and Marketing Alignment
13:00 Demand Generation vs. Lead Generation Explained
17:20 Why Short-Term Lead Generation Isn’t Enough
20:10 The Importance of Demand Creation for Long-Term Success
24:00 The 5 B’s Framework: Be Ready, Be Helpful, Be Seen
28:10 How to Optimize Your Demand Generation Efforts
31:00 The Rise of Account-Based Marketing (ABM)
34:00 Avoiding Common ABM Mistakes
38:10 Leveraging Technology in Demand Generation and ABM
42:00 How the B2B Playbook Uses Content to Drive Demand
45:00 Repurposing Content Efficiently with AI
50:00 The Future of Demand Generation and Marketing Trends
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S06 E157 - The B2B Playbook
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In this episode, we dive deep into a question we get asked all the time: should you outsource your demand generation program to an agency or do it in-house? As two people who have experience on both sides – running agencies and helping companies build their own in-house demand generation teams – we’re here to give you the real answer.
We’ll discuss why many agencies can’t deliver on their promises and why it’s often better to build the foundation of your demand generation program in-house before turning to external help. We also cover what you need to have in place before hiring an agency and how to use one effectively when the time is right.
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Why you should start demand generation in-house
The importance of customer interviews and qualitative insights
When an agency can amplify your efforts and how to pick the right one
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer struggling with the decision to hire external help. Learn from our mistakes and set your business up for demand generation success.
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00:00 Introduction: Should You Outsource Demand Generation?
01:20 The 5 BEs Framework Explained
03:00 When Companies Typically Turn to Agencies
05:00 Early Mistakes: Why Agencies Often Fail
07:00 Why Demand Generation Should Start In-House
09:10 Key Insights Needed for Effective Demand Generation
11:10 The Importance of Customer Interviews
13:30 The Role of Qualitative Insights in Demand Generation
15:00 Aligning Sales and Marketing for Success
17:30 Common Pitfalls When Scaling Too Quickly
19:20 How to Achieve Message-Market Fit Internally
22:00 Building the 80/20 Analysis of Your Best Customers
24:30 When Is an Agency the Right Fit?
27:00 Using Agencies to Amplify Your Message
29:50 Key Takeaways: When and How to Use Agencies
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S06 E156 - The B2B Playbook
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In this episode, we’re going deep into the mindset that will set you up for success in demand generation. Too many marketers think there's a hidden secret to generating demand, but we’re here to debunk that myth.
We walk through our 5 Bs Framework to show you how to build a sustainable demand generation engine for your business. From understanding your target audience to creating a consistent message that resonates, we cover the steps you need to drive revenue for your B2B company.
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How to effectively target your ideal customers
The importance of consistency in your messaging
Why feedback loops are critical for ongoing success
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to master demand generation and build a powerful, sustainable growth engine.
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00:00:00Introduction: Demand Generation Demystified
00:01:00Overview of the 5 Bs Framework
00:03:13The Demand Generation Mindset: Key Principles
00:04:10Importance of Target Audience Focus
00:06:00Niching Down: Why Less is More
00:08:01Building Trust and Relationships in B2B Marketing
00:10:30Consistency in Messaging: Awareness vs. Affinity
00:12:59Effective Content Strategy for Demand Generation
00:14:59The 3-5% Market Rule: Engaging the Right Audience
00:17:20Implementing a Consistent Delivery System
00:19:45The Importance of Systems and Frameworks
00:21:50Feedback Loops for Ongoing Improvement
00:24:00The Crawl, Walk, Run Approach Explained
00:26:50The Power of Content Repurposing
00:29:00Key Takeaways and Next Steps
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S06 E155 - The B2B Playbook
Triggers and signals are all the rage in B2B marketing at the moment. We have website visitor identification companies like RB2B!, Clearbit, and Dealfront making plenty of noise. We have intent data vendors trying to sell you lists of people more likely to be ‘in-market’.
In this eye-opening episode of The B2B Playbook, we dive deep into the world of B2B signals and triggers. We explore what they mean for marketers, sales teams, and leaders, and how to use them effectively in your strategy.
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How to identify quality signals that actually indicate buying intent
The power of customer interviews in uncovering true buying triggers
Why tech platforms aren't the silver bullet for B2B signal success
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00:00Unveiling the Power of B2B Signals and Triggers
01:24The 5 B's Framework: Your Roadmap to B2B Success
02:34Decoding Modern B2B Triggers: From Job Changes to Website Visits
03:44Old School vs. New School: The Evolution of B2B Signals
05:20Common Pitfalls: Where Marketers Go Wrong with Signals
06:51The Art of Signal Interpretation: Quality Over Quantity
08:33Lessons from the Past: Traditional B2B Signal Gathering
09:50The Tech Trap: Why Platforms Aren't the Silver Bullet
11:05Case Study: When Signal Tracking Goes Overboard
12:50Nurture vs. Hard Sell: Striking the Right Balance
14:30The Customer Interview: Your Secret Weapon for Signal Discovery
16:30Uncovering Buying Triggers: Key Questions to Ask Your Customers
18:18Cataloging Your Market: A Step-by-Step Approach
19:50Putting It All Together: ICP, Triggers, and Cataloging
21:30Key Takeaways: Mastering B2B Signals and Triggers
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S06 E154 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we dive deep into Google's massive search documentation leak and explore what it means for your SEO and content strategy - and how it plays into your wider Demand Generation strategy.
With over 14,000 potential ranking factors exposed, this is a game-changer for anyone serious about digital marketing. We break down key insights from industry experts like Rand Fishkin and discuss how this leak could impact everything from content quality to brand relevance.
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How to optimize your content based on Google's newly revealed ranking factors.
The importance of brand building in your SEO strategy.
Why user interaction and navigation boosts are now critical for ranking.
This episode is a must-watch for marketers looking to stay ahead.
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00:00 Introduction: What Google's Leak Means for SEO & Content Strategy
03:00 Overview of Google's Search Documentation Leak
05:00 Key Insights from Rand Fishkin's Analysis
07:30 Google's New Focus: User Interaction Scores Explained
10:00 The Importance of Content Quality and Link Scores
12:00 Relevance and Quality Boosts: How They Impact Ranking
14:30 Optimizing for Navigation Boosts: Why Your Website Layout Matters
17:00 Consistency in Content Publishing: Why It's Essential
20:00 The Growing Importance of Brand in Google's Ranking
22:30 Niche Strategies: Why Focusing on Smaller Markets Wins
25:00 The Long-Tail Advantage: Competing with Big Brands
27:30 Expert-Led Content: The Key to Winning in Google Search
29:00 Building Trust: A Long-Term Strategy for SEO Success
31:00 Summary and Key Takeaways
32:00 Closing Remarks and Call to Action
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S06 E153 - The B2B Playbook
How can B2B marketers navigate and measure your impact on long, complex B2B buying cycles? This week we sat down with Dreamdata We sat down with Steffen Hedebrandt, Co-founder and CMO of DreamData. We explore the complexities of long B2B buying cycles, innovative strategies for demand generation, and how to measure marketing impact across the entire funnel.
Steffen shares invaluable insights from Dreamdata's own growth journey, discussing everything from early-stage marketing tactics on a budget to leveraging content collaboration and the rise of B2B influencers. We also delve into Dreamdata's unique approach to weekly live events and how they've become a cornerstone of their content strategy.
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How to navigate and measure success in long B2B buying cycles
Strategies for moving from bottom-funnel to full-funnel marketing
The power of content collaboration and B2B influencer marketing
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to drive sustainable growth and prove their impact on revenue. Steffen's practical advice and real-world examples make this a goldmine of actionable insights for marketing teams of all sizes.
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00:00 The Key to Sustainable B2B Growth
03:09 Unveiling DreamData: B2B Customer Data Platform
06:12 Navigating Long B2B Buying Cycles
09:30 Building Trust with Future Buyers: DreamData's Strategy
13:40 From Bottom of Funnel to Full-Funnel Marketing
17:28 Early Stage Marketing Tactics on a Budget
21:15 The Dual Approach: Exploit and Experiment
24:50 DreamData's Weekly Live Events Strategy
28:00 The Power of Content Collaboration
29:40 The Rise of B2B Influencers and Creators
32:30 Measuring Mid and Upper Funnel Activities
34:40 Qualitative Proof: Capturing Customer Feedback
36:00 Closing Thoughts and LinkedIn Connection
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S06 E152 - The B2B Playbook
How do you go from 70 to 1000+ registrants for your webinar? How do you convert this to revenue? In this game-changing episode of The B2B Playbook, we dive deep into the world of webinar marketing with expert Justin Zimmerman. Justin reveals his innovative approach to webinars that's driving unprecedented results for B2B companies.
We explore a complete paradigm shift in webinar strategy, moving away from the traditional focus on attendance and content creation to a data-driven, partner-centric approach. Justin shares his secrets for consistently achieving 1000+ registrants, turning webinars into powerful lead generation and sales conversion tools.
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How to leverage partners and influencers to exponentially grow your webinar audience
The 6-step registration process that captures crucial lead data and drives conversions
Post-webinar strategies that turn no-shows into demo bookings and sales opportunities
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to revolutionize their webinar strategy, drive more leads, and achieve better ROI from their marketing efforts. Justin's insights will change the way you think about webinars forever!
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00:00 The Game-Changing Webinar Strategy You've Been Missing
02:19 Common Webinar Pitfalls: Why Most B2B Marketers Struggle
04:30 Revolutionizing Webinars: Focus on Data Collection, Not Attendance
07:09 Leveraging Partners and Influencers for Massive Webinar Growth
11:37 The 6-Step Registration Process That Drives Results
16:40 Curating Content vs. Creating: A Stress-Free Approach to Webinars
21:20 Structuring Your Webinar for Maximum Impact and Sales Conversion
26:29 Post-Webinar Strategies That Turn Attendees into Customers
31:30 The Power of Problem Awareness in Demand Capture
37:10 Automating Follow-Ups: Balancing Efficiency and Personalization
41:40 Ask More, Get More: Introducing a Revolutionary Webinar Tool
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S06 E151 - The B2B Playbook
How can you reach more ideal B2B Customers? In this episode of The B2B Playbook, we dive deep into the game-changing concept of the Dream 100 strategy. We explain how this powerful technique can help you identify and reach your ideal B2B customers more effectively than ever before.
We discuss the origins of the Dream 100, how it fits into our 5 B's framework for demand generation, and provide practical examples of how we've implemented it in our own business. From working your way into key communities to strategic sponsorships, we cover it all.
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What the Dream 100 really is (hint: it's not what you think!)
How to build and prioritize your own Dream 100 list
Strategies for working your way in vs. buying your way in
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to maximize their reach and connect with their ideal customers. Don't miss out on this game-changing strategy!
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00:00 Unlocking the Power of the Dream 100 Strategy
03:00 The 5 B's Framework: Your Roadmap to B2B Success
06:00 Decoding the Dream 100: What It Really Means
09:10 Building Your Dream 100 List: Online and Offline Tactics
12:40 Working Your Way In vs. Buying Your Way In: Strategies Revealed
16:30 The B2B Playbook's Journey: Our Dream 100 Experience
19:40 Collaborating with Influencers: Maximizing Your Reach
22:20 Prioritizing Your Dream 100 List: Smart Targeting Techniques
24:40 Sponsorships and Advertising: Making the Most of Your Budget
26:00 Overcoming Challenges: Implementing Dream 100 as a Non-Expert
28:40 Repurposing Content: Maximizing Your Subject Matter Experts' Time
29:40 Key Takeaways: Mastering the Dream 100 Strategy
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S06 E150 - The B2B Playbook
Are you overcomplicating Demand Generation? We've been in the B2B marketing game for a while now, and if there's one thing we've learned, it's that we marketers love to overcomplicate things. Demand generation is no exception.
But here's the truth: at its core, demand generation is about building relationships and solving real problems for your customers. It's not rocket science, but it does require a strategic approach.
Founder of The B2B Playbook George Coudounaris appears as a guest on The Marketing Woman Show to share the fundamentals of demand generation, cut through the jargon, and give you a actionable frameworks that you can start implementing today.
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What Demand Generation Is (in simple terms)
Our favourite Framework for creating your Demand Gen strategy
Tips for getting started with Demand Gen
Whether you're a seasoned B2B marketer or just starting out, understanding demand generation is crucial for sustainable business growth. So, let's dive in and demystify this often misunderstood aspect of B2B marketing.
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00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
00:00:44 What is Demand Generation?
00:03:18 Demand Capture vs. Demand Creation
00:05:50 The Pitfalls of Lead Generation
00:07:40 The Role of Content in Demand Generation
00:10:17 Effective Content Mapping Strategies
00:12:52 Storytelling: A Powerful Demand Gen Tool
00:14:55 Building Trust Through Customer Advocacy
00:17:34 The 5 BEs Framework Overview
00:20:00 Be Ready: Understanding Your Customer
00:22:50 Be Helpful: Creating Relevant Content
00:25:45 Be Seen: Effective Distribution Channels
00:27:50 The Role of AI in Content Repurposing
00:31:09 Advice for New Marketers
00:35:20 ABM vs. Demand Generation
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S06 E148 - The B2B Playbook
You put so much time, effort and money into winning new customers. But keeping them, preventing churn, and looking for expansion opportunities is what helps take your organisation to the next level.
Otherwise you’re just constantly trying to fill a bucket with holes in it.
So many organisations don’t have a smooth onboarding process to ensure the customer sticks around. Even fewer know how to look for expansion opportunities to win more revenue from existing customers.
Today we’re showing you how to do exactly that.
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How to setup customer success to reduce churn
The checklist you need prior to going ‘live’, and what to include in your commercial deal pack
How to look for opportunities for revenue expansion
This is the final part of our mini-series with 7x ex-head of sales, Adem Manderovic. We’re combining marketing and sales forces to build a revenue engine with total alignment. The outcome? A more efficient acquisition system that leads to sustainable growth.
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00:00 Creating an End-to-End Business Growth Engine
02:28 Recap: Building Your Growth Framework
05:14 The Importance of Live Quoting Days
07:10 Ensuring Commercial Viability in Deals
09:00 Streamlining the Onboarding Process
11:10 Leveraging Customer Relationships for New Opportunities
13:00 The Power of Referrals in B2B Growth
14:30 Bringing Back Common Sense in Business Development
16:00 Solving Sales, Marketing, and Customer Success Misalignment
16:31 Accessing the Full Mini-Series and Additional Resources
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S06 E148 - The B2B Playbook
You've finally got your target customer to a meeting. It's taken even more touchpoints than research says it should. How do you make sure you don't screw it up?
How can you maximize your chances of winning their business?
And once you've won it, making sure it gets past legal, finance - and to make sure they stick around as a happy customer?
Today we're taking you through what you need to cover so you can nail your demo, live quoting day, or however else it is you're meeting with your target customer.
This is part of our mini-series with 7x ex-head of sales, Adem Manderovic. We're combining marketing and sales forces to build a revenue engine with total alignment. The outcome? A more efficient acquisition system that leads to sustainable growth.
Today we are sharing step 3 of our framework to create complete end-to-end organizational alignment. This is the solution to start driving a much more efficient acquisition system.
Step 3 is all about maximizing your chances of winning a deal.
Tune in and learn:
Why mega deals are the gold standard for business growth
Essential components for deal success, including market cataloging and objection handling
How to adapt mega deal strategies for smaller contracts
If you're struggling to hit targets and are feeling the pain of churning and burning the market, make sure you check out this mini-series where we detail our 5-step framework.
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00:00 Unlocking the Secrets of Mega Deals
02:10 Why Mega Deals are the Gold Standard
03:40 Essential Components for Deal Success
05:50 The Power of Live Quoting Days
07:20 Introducing Your A-Team to Clients
08:40 Aligning Expectations and Overcoming Objections
10:20 Navigating Legal and Credit Processes
11:50 The Commercial Pack: Sealing the Deal
13:20 Adapting Mega Deal Strategies for Smaller Contracts
14:40 Key Benefits of Partnership Alignment
15:30 The Importance of Customer Success Planning
16:10 Wrapping Up: Next Steps in the Framework
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S06 E147 - The B2B Playbook
If you want more customers to buy your product or service, you need to build trust with them first. Trust that you won’t let them down, that you will deliver the outcomes expected, and that they won’t regret their decision for choosing your company.
Companies that are focussed on ‘selling the meeting’ don’t build trust. In an effort to look for the ‘needle in the haystack’ that’s willing to buy from you now, their hungry SDR team churn and burn the market. Ever downloaded an eBook and had a sales team call you non-stop for the next few months?
Doesn’t build a great deal of trust does it?
(We go deep into the problems with ‘selling the meeting’, the Predictable Revenue modelling and why it’s hurting your business in pt.1 of our mini-series).
But how do you build trust? Is it through content? Events? Ads?
We have a system that you can use to consistently build trust with your prospective buyers, which is a key part of your revenue engine.
Today we are sharing step 2 of our framework to create complete end-to-end organizational alignment. This is the solution to start driving a much more efficient acquisition system.
Step 2 is all about building relationships with your target customers and getting them to buy from you.
Tune in and learn:
Why trust is essential to your revenue engine
The 4 components to building trust
How to accelerate the trust building process
If you're struggling to hit targets and are feeling the pain of churning and burning the market, make sure you check out this mini-series where we detail our 5-step framework.
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00:00 Unveiling the Ultimate Business Growth Engine
02:00 The Power of Targeted Marketing: Setting Up for Success
04:40 Building Bridges of Trust: The 5 Stages of Awareness
08:10 Real-Life Example: How Content Drives Purchasing Decisions
11:30 Next-Level Content: Making Lives Better Beyond Your Product
14:00 The Secret Recipe for Overcoming Objections
17:10 Distribution Tactics: Getting Your Message to the Right People
20:20 One-to-One Interactions: The Art of Personalized Selling
23:40 Shortening Sales Cycles: The Power of Education
26:30 The Future of B2B Sales: Mega Deal Room Tactics Revealed
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S06 E146 - The B2B Playbook
If you're a CMO, CRO or Head of Sales, you should be asking yourself: how can our teams work better together to drive more revenue, in a more efficient way?
We've come across so many organizations that have bloated methods for acquiring customers. They're loaded to the brim with hungry SDRs who have 'book the meeting at all costs' as their mandate. They've handcuffed marketing and reduced them to 'lead gen' to feed the sales machine.
The result? A 'spray and pray' method that doesn't work unless you have serious cash to burn. Marketing, sales and customer success are incentivised to behave in ways that compete with each other. A poor customer experience. And a high level of churn and dissatisfaction at customer success.
To answer your prayers for a 'better way', we've teamed up with 7x ex Head of Sales, Adem Manderovic, to bring you a combined marketing and sales system that will completely align your business. It will help you build a growth engine that allows you to win more customers for less, and reduce churn.
It gets sales, marketing and customer success to all play on the same team.
Today we are sharing step 1 of our framework to create complete end-to-end organizational alignment. This is the solution to start driving a much more efficient acquisition system.
Step 1 is all about laying the foundations in place for your revenue engine before you go-to-market.
Tune in and learn:
How to define your next best market
How to reposition your business to make it a 'no brainer' for future customers
How to prioritize your next targets by cataloguing the market
If you're struggling to hit targets and are feeling the pain of churning and burning the market, make sure you check out this mini-series where we detail our 5-step framework.
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00:00 Welcome to the B2B Playbook: Creating a Business Growth Engine
01:28 Why Understanding Your Best Market is Crucial for Success
03:41 The Four-Step Process to Drive Better Commercial Outcomes
05:42 Step 1: Identifying Your Best Customers Using the 80/20 Rule
08:40 Step 2: Deep Dive into Customer Understanding
11:22 Uncovering Hidden Insights from Lost Deals and Churned Clients
13:50 The Power of Direct Customer Interviews vs. Data Analysis
16:20 Step 3: Updating Your Positioning and Messaging
17:52 Step 4: Cataloging the Market - A Lost Art in Modern Sales
20:20 The Benefits of Building Relationships Through Market Research
22:08 Wrapping Up: The Foundation for a Successful Growth Engine
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S06 E145 - The B2B Playbook
Are you struggling to acquire new customers profitably? Do you have a bloated sales team that are trying to find the needle in the haystack? Are customers churning after being sold a dream you can't deliver on?
You may have been setup to fail with a sales-led model that just won't work for your business as you scale.
To answer your prayers for a 'better way', we've teamed up with 7x ex Head of Sales, Adem Manderovic, to bring you a combined marketing and sales system that will completely align your business. It will help you build a growth engine that allows you to win more customers for less, and reduce churn.
It gets sales, marketing and customer success to all play on the same team.
Tune in and learn:
The end-to-end process for building a growth engine
Why the predictable revenue model has set you up to fail
Why marketing aren't able to do real marketing
If you're struggling to hit targets and are feeling the pain of churning and burning the market, make sure you check out this mini-series where we detail our 5-step framework.
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00:00 Introducing the Mini-Series on Business Growth
01:10 Meet Adam Manderovic: 7x Head of Sales
02:10 The Gap in B2B Go-to-Market Strategies
03:40 Revolutionizing Sales Proposals with Animations
05:00 Aligning Marketing and Sales for Revenue Growth
06:40 What is a Business Growth Engine?
08:10 The Impact of Venture Capital on Marketing Metrics
09:50 The MQL Trap: Why Traditional Lead Gen Fails
11:30 Lost Marketing Fundamentals in B2B
13:10 The 5 Stages of Buyer Awareness
14:30 Targeting the 97%: Beyond Active Buyers
15:40 The Reality of Your Addressable Market
16:50 Why Only 0.6% of Your Market is Accessible
17:50 The Loss of Key Business Development Skills
18:40 Bringing Back Commercial Acumen to Marketing and Sales
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S06 E144 - The B2B Playbook
We’ve shared our 5 BEs Demand Generation Framework with you in over 140 episodes of The B2B Playbook. That’s our ‘free, easy’ way for marketers to get started learning about what a Demand Generation program should really look like.
But working out exactly how to implement a Demand Generation engine in your business is going to take time and considerable effort – often outside of your regular working hours.
Even if you set out with the best intentions, Demand Generation programs are often interrupted by day-to-day requests and activities and get pushed down the priority list. But the truth is – until you have a Demand Generation program running for your business, your marketing will forever be reactive. You will never get off that hamster wheel. And you’ll never consistently contribute to pipeline.
That’s why Kevin and I created our Demand Generation Course – The B2B Incubator. In this program, we give you the strategy, templates and tools to build your own Demand Generation engine in 12 weeks. The feedback has been amazing, and we’re so proud of the results our marketers are driving from the program (but more on that later).
Today we’re going to share more about our Demand Gen Course, The B2B Incubator to help you decide if it’s right for you or not.
Tune in and learn:
The end-to-end process for building a demand generation engine
Why B2B Marketing Managers, CMOs, Consultants and Demand Generation specialists love our program
Why you should document your demand generation engine in-house
If you're keen to learn more about demand generation and want the strategy, templates and tools to do it - watch this episode to see if our course is right for you.
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00:00 Unlock Your Demand Gen Engine in Just 12 Weeks
03:00 The 5 B's Framework: Your Secret Weapon for B2B Success
06:00 Why Most B2B Marketers Struggle (And How to Fix It)
10:00 Inside the B2B Incubator: Your Roadmap to Revenue Growth
14:00 From Reactive to Proactive: Transforming Your Marketing Approach
18:00 The 3-Part Strategy to Dominate Your Market
22:00 Crafting Content That Converts: Our Proven Formula
26:00 Measuring Success: The Metrics That Really Matter
30:00 Scaling Your Demand Gen Engine: Paid Media and ABM Tactics
34:00 Real Results: What Marketers Say About the B2B Incubator
37:00 Why In-House Demand Gen Trumps Outsourcing
40:00 Your Next Steps: How to Join the B2B Incubator
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S06 E143 - The B2B Playbook
We sat down with Alan Hale, president of Consight Marketing Group, to discuss the importance of voice of the customer (VOC) research for B2B companies. Alan is a true expert in the field, and he shared his insights on why customer obsession should be the North star for any business.
According to Bain & Company, only 21% of B2B companies identify and act on customer insights. That's a shockingly low number, and it's one of the main reasons why so many businesses fail to succeed in the marketplace. VOC research allows you to make better business decisions, minimize the risk of failure, and differentiate yourself from the competition.
Alan breaks down the right way to conduct VOC research, emphasizing the importance of taking an outside-in approach and truly understanding your customers' needs, pain points, and expectations. He also highlights the limitations of relying solely on surveys and why qualitative research is crucial for gaining deeper insights.
Tune in and learn:
+The 10-30-90 rule: Continuous customer touchpoints for success
Whether you're a marketer, business owner, or anyone interested in understanding your customers better, this episode is a must-watch. Alan's wealth of knowledge and real-world examples will open your eyes to the power of customer obsession and the potential pitfalls of marketing malpractice.
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00:00:00 Marketing Malpractice: The Shocking Truth About B2B Companies
00:05:10 The Importance of Voice of the Customer (VOC) Research
00:10:20 Taking an Outside-In Approach: Putting Customers First
00:15:30 The Right Way to Do Voice of the Customer Research
00:20:40 Why Surveys Alone Aren't Enough for VOC Research
00:25:50 The 80/20 Rule: Focus on Your Best Customers
00:31:00 A Practical Example: Helping a Company Enter the U.S. Market
00:36:10 The Power of Customer Obsession: Closing the Loop
00:41:20 Overcoming Objections: Why VOC Research Is Worth It
00:46:30 The Importance of Getting Buy-In from Customers
00:51:40 The 10-30-90 Rule: Continuous Customer Touchpoints
00:56:50 A Red Flag Example: Saving a Major Account
01:02:00 Key Takeaways: Customer Obsession Is the Path to Success
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S06 E142 - The B2B Playbook
When sales and marketing play on the same team, an organization is able to acquire new customers far more efficiently. But the two are so often at odds with each other. Marketing are pressured to generate 'leads' right now, often forcing their hand to pass onto sales low-intent leads that have little interest in buying. Sales are just looking for 'hot deals' to meet their quotas, and become disgruntled with marketing after their leads feel like a waste of time.
To help you out, we've teamed with with Steve Armenti (VP Revenue Marketing and ex-Google) to discuss how the two roles can become more aligned, and start work as one revenue team.
We put together a Sales and Marketing Workbook that you can grab for free here:
It has 45 questions that you can work through with sales to make sure you're as aligned as possible. We've had amazing feedback from teams that used this workbook, so make sure you check it out!
In addition to Sales and Marketing alignment, Steve shares his expert strategies for driving revenue through effective demand generation, and his innovative use of AI.
This is pt.13 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
Tune in and learn:
Strategies for overcoming roadblocks to sales and marketing alignment
How to measure marketing's impact with demand gen
Tactics for scaling personalized, high-touch ABM campaigns
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers seeking to stay ahead of the curve and drive revenue growth through innovative demand generation strategies. With Steve's expertise and real-world examples from Google, you'll gain a competitive edge in the ever-evolving world of B2B marketing.
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00:00:00 Intro: Insights on Demand Generation
00:01:02 Steve Armenti: Google's Demand Gen Guru
00:02:55 Defining Demand Generation
00:05:10 Measuring Marketing's Impact: Revenue Marketing
00:08:00 The Importance of Sales & Marketing Alignment
00:12:20 Overcoming Roadblocks to Alignment
00:17:00 The 10-Step Sales & Marketing Alignment Workbook
00:21:10 Generative AI for ICP Research & Segmentation
00:27:00 High-Touch Account-Based Marketing (ABM)
00:32:30 The Art of Personalization in ABM
00:36:10 Leveraging AI for Account Targeting
00:40:30 Scaling Personalized ABM Campaigns
00:44:20 The Future of Demand Generation & ABM
00:48:00 Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts
00:51:10 Outro: Subscribe & Follow for More
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S06 E141 - The B2B Playbook
Sales and Marketing alignment is the holy grail for an organization. When the two work together, the business benefits enormously by having a much more efficient method of acquiring new customers.
But the reality of most organisations is the two teams are often at odds with each other. Marketing are pressured to generate 'leads' right now, often forcing their hand to pass onto sales low-intent leads that have little interest in buying. Sales are just looking for 'hot deals' to meet their quotas, and become disgruntled with marketing after their leads feel like a waste of time.
Today we're going to share (in our experience) a framework for how the two roles can become more aligned, and start work as one revenue team. We'll start by diving into some misconceptions as to how sales and marketing should work together. We'll then provide our framework and advice on how the two can collaborate better. Finally, we'll give you the metrics sales and marketing should share, and finish with some practical tips on how marketing can keep a closer working relationship with sales.
To illustrate these concepts, we share a real-life examples - and plenty of drawings on the whiteboard!
This is pt.12 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
Tune in and learn:
Where Sales and Marketing teams go wrong working together
How to define the roles of sales and marketing
Shared reporting for the two teams and a meeting agenda
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to level up their demand generation efforts and work closer with sales.
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00:00 The Ultimate Guide to Sales & Marketing Alignment
03:32 Busting Myths: What Sales & Marketing Really Do
06:52 Why Marketing Isn't Just the 'Make It Pretty' Department
09:13 Aligning Goals: The Foundation of Success
11:10 Targeting Together: One Team, One Dream
13:11 Defining Roles: Who Does What in B2B
15:30 Closing the Loop: Real-World Insights Matter
17:30 Shared Metrics: The Key to Unity
20:40 Sales Enablement: Making Content That Converts
22:22 FAQs: Your Secret Weapon for Alignment
23:20 Weekly Meetings: Short, Sharp, and Productive
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S06 E140 - The B2B Playbook
What tools should you have as part of your Demand Generation Tech Stack? This week, we share our favourite tools that we use and that most B2B marketers should consider having in their arsenal.
You'll see what we use for our own personal B2B tech stack, including tools we use for content creation, LinkedIn automation, website tracking, and more. They also provide recommendations for CRMs, marketing automation platforms, and outbound marketing solutions.
We also go into how we leverage these tools too to give you an idea as to how we use them.
To illustrate these tools in action, we share a real-life examples - and plenty of drawings on the whiteboard!
This is pt.11 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
Tune in and learn:
The five stages of awareness and the tools needed for each stage
Time-saving tools for content creation and repurposing
Essential reporting and analytics tools for actionable insights
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to level up their demand generation efforts.
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00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:37 The Five Stages of Awareness
05:13 Generating Demand with Dripify
10:40 Content Creation Tools
14:40 Prospect Identification and Nurturing
19:57 CRM and Marketing Automation
22:48 Content Management System
24:07 Outbound Marketing Tools
26:16 Reporting and Analytics
29:00 Website Interaction Tracking
30:48 Google Tag Manager
31:30 Key Takeaways and Conclusion
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S06 E139 - The B2B Playbook
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How should you measure the success of your Demand Generation programs? What KPIs should you use?
This week, we walk you through our proven 3-tiered framework for measuring the success of your demand generation programs at every stage. We give you a detailed breakdown of the quantitative and qualitative metrics you should be tracking, from initial awareness and reach to pipeline creation and ultimately revenue contribution.
To illustrate the measurement framework in action, we share a real-life examples - and plenty of drawings on the whiteboard!
This is pt.10 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
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The three tiers of demand generation reporting and what to measure at each stage
How to track quantitative and qualitative data for a holistic view of your demand gen efforts
Strategies for aligning marketing and sales teams through shared reporting and metrics
This episode is a must-watch for B2B demand gen marketers looking to optimise their demand programs, justify their marketing spend, and position themselves as a revenue-driving force in their organisation.
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00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:13 The 5B's Framework for Demand Generation
01:43 Measuring Success: Tier 3 Reporting
04:21 Tier 3: Quantitative Data
09:56 Tier 3: Qualitative Data
10:04 Tier 2: Measuring Hero Pipeline
12:11 Tier 2: Qualitative Data and Hybrid Attribution
15:56 Tier 1: Marketing's KPIs
19:48 Website Source Pipeline and Revenue
21:26 Customer Acquisition Costs (CAC)
22:48 Pipeline Velocity
24:00 Summary of the Three Tiers
25:27 Call to Action and Outro
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S06 E138 - The B2B Playbook
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How much budget should you allocate to Creating Demand versus Capturing Demand? In other words, should you be spending more getting in front and building trust with future buyers, versus going after those 'in-market' now.
We're back with another episode of The B2B Playbook, where we're sharing our framework for how to allocate your budget to demand creation and demand capture. It's a simple approach that accounts for your (a) company's maturity and (b) your positioning in the market.
We start by exploring the differences between Demand Creation and Demand Capture, and then examine how to allocate your budget based on your company's maturity and positioning.
To illustrate the framework in action, we share a real-life examples - and plenty of drawings on the whiteboard!
This is pt.9 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
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How to determine the right budget split for your business
Why early-stage companies should focus on demand capture
Budgeting strategies for larger companies to create future demand
This episode is a must-watch for marketers looking to create a holistic demand generation program that meets the needs of today and future demands of tomorrow.
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00:00 Introduction: Balancing Demand Creation vs. Demand Capture
01:24 Recap: The Five B’s Framework
03:03 The Best Time to Invest in Demand Creation
04:04 Definition of Demand Generation
06:13 Demand Capture Stages of Awareness
08:13 Example: CRMs for Real Estate Agents
10:00 Transitioning to Demand Creation
11:00 Impact of Company Maturity on Budget Allocation
13:30 Stress of Focusing Only on Demand Capture
15:04 Category Positioning and Budget Allocation
17:13 Big Fish, Small Pond Positioning
19:00 Transitioning to Demand Generation
21:00 Head-to-Head Market Positioning
23:13 Creating a New Market Category
25:28 Final Thoughts and Resources
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S06 E137 - The B2B Playbook
Want a demand gen content framework that builds trust and pipeline from your future customers?
How can you then get it in front of your target audience?
How does this help build pipeline?
We're back with another episode of The B2B Playbook, where we're discussing the role of content in demand generation. In this episode, we'll clarify the confusion around content's role in driving demand and share a proven framework for creating content that maps to the buyer's journey.
We start by defining demand generation and explaining our five B's framework, a step-by-step approach to building intense desire in your dream customers to purchase from you. We then dive into our favourite framework for content creation: the five stages of awareness. This framework aligns your content with the different stages of the buying journey, ensuring you're speaking to your customers' needs at every step.
To illustrate the framework in action, we share a real-life examples - and plenty of drawings on the whiteboard!
This is pt.8 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
Tune in and learn:
How to create content that makes your dream customers' lives better, even before they become customers
The different channels for distributing your content (one to many, one to few, one to one)
The benefits of content in demand generation, including building trust and developing relationships with your target customers
+Our process for repurposing content to fuel your entire content engine
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to drive more revenue for their business through effective content marketing and demand generation strategies. We share practical tips, frameworks, and real-life examples to help you create content that resonates with your dream customers and moves them through the buying journey.
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00:00 Intro: What Role Does Content Play in Demand Generation?
03:02 Defining Demand Generation and the Five B's Framework
07:08 The Five Stages of Awareness: A Framework for Content Creation
12:12 A Real-Life Example: Purchasing Cybersecurity
20:17 Creating Content That Makes Your Dream Customers' Lives Better
24:41 Distributing Content: One to Many, One to Few, One to One
29:50 Benefits of Content in Demand Generation
33:38 Repurposing Content to Fuel Your Content Engine
36:00 Key Takeaways and Call to Action
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S06 E136 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we're sharing our proven 5 BEs framework for demand generation. This simple yet powerful framework has helped B2B marketers like you go from being in service of sales to consistently contributing up to 80% of pipeline.
We'll take you through each of the five stages: Be Ready, Be Helpful, Be Seen, Be Better, and Be the Best. You'll learn how to deeply understand your dream customers, create expert content that builds trust, amplify your content to reach the right audiences, optimize your processes, and implement advanced tactics.
This is pt.7 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
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How to use our 5 BEs Framework to implement Demand Generation
A breakdown of each key step in the framework
Our shortcut to building and executing this Demand Gen strategy
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to drive more revenue for their business. By implementing the 5 BEs framework, you'll align with sales, contribute to pipeline, and position yourself as a trusted advisor in your industry.
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00:00 - Welcome to the B2B Playbook
02:00 - Introducing the 5 BEs Framework
05:30 - Why the 5 BEs Framework Works
10:30 - Be Ready: Understanding Your Dream Customers
15:20 - The 80/20 Rule for Customer Segmentation
20:00 - Be Helpful: Creating Expert Content
25:40 - Mapping Content to the Buyer's Journey
30:30 - Repurposing and Distributing Helpful Content
35:00 - Be Seen: Amplifying Your Content
40:20 - Using Paid Ads to Reach Your Dream Customers
45:10 - Account-Based Marketing Strategies
50:00 - Be Better and Be the Best: Optimization and Advanced Tactics
54:40 - Using the 5 BEs Framework as a Flywheel
58:20 - The B2B Incubator Program
01:02:00 - Final Thoughts and Outro
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S06 E135 - The B2B Playbook
Want to make the change from lead generation to demand generation?
Making the shift from lead generation to demand generation can be a game-changer for B2B marketers looking to drive sustainable, scalable growth. But knowing how to execute that transition smoothly is key. In this episode, we lay out our proven 5-step framework for successfully implementing a demand gen strategy without disrupting your existing marketing efforts.
We cover the importance of making a strong business case, cutting a portion of your budget for a pilot program, creating a detailed demand gen plan, assigning tasks and accountability, and measuring and scaling your success.
You'll learn how to allocate a portion of your current budget to pilot a demand gen program, develop a comprehensive strategy tailored to your business, assign clear roles and accountability, and measure success so you can double down on what's working. We also share tips for getting buy-in from sales and leadership.
This is pt.6 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
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How to make a compelling business case for demand generation
Step-by-step guidance on transitioning to a demand gen strategy
Best practices for executing a successful demand gen pilot program
Whether you're just starting to explore demand gen or looking to level up your existing programs, this episode breaks down exactly how to transition the right way. Follow our step-by-step guidance and you'll be on the path to a scalable demand engine that drives more qualified ops and top-line revenue.
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00:00:00 5 Steps to Transition from Lead Generation to Demand Generation
00:01:19 Step 1: Making the Business Case for Demand Generation
00:04:14 Recapping the Business Case
00:06:26 Calculating Return on Investment
00:09:19 Step 2: Cutting 10% of Budget for a Pilot Program
00:12:11 Auditing Existing Activities
00:14:42 Focusing on One Product and Segment
00:16:18 Step 3: Creating the Demand Gen Plan
00:19:09 Executing the Demand Gen Pilot Program
00:21:46 Using a Gantt Chart for Task Planning
00:23:40 Step 4: Assigning Tasks and Accountability
00:25:32 Step 5: Measuring and Scaling Success
00:27:52 Key Takeaways and Next Steps
00:29:54 Closing Remarks
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S06 E134 - The B2B Playbook
Are you struggling to generate consistent demand and pipeline for your B2B business? In this episode of The B2B Playbook, we dive deep into 10 critical questions that will help you determine whether you need to start your demand generation strategy from scratch or simply plug the gaps in your existing approach.
You'll love our comprehensive framework to audit and optimize your demand generation efforts. It covers key areas such as customer alignment, content creation, measurement, and documentation. They offer practical insights and actionable steps to help you build a robust demand generation engine that drives consistent pipeline and revenue.
Throughout the episode, we share real-world examples and best practices, highlighting the importance of understanding your dream customers, leveraging subject matter experts, mapping content to the stages of awareness, and implementing effective content repurposing and distribution strategies. We also address advanced tactics like account-based marketing and product ads, ensuring you have a well-rounded approach to demand generation.
This is pt.5 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
Tune in and learn:
How to assess if your demand generation strategy is built on a solid foundation
The essential elements of a successful demand generation program
Practical tips for optimizing your existing efforts and filling gaps
This episode is a must-watch for B2B marketers who want to maximize their demand generation impact and drive consistent growth for their business.
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00:00:00 Introduction: Should You Start From Scratch or Plug Gaps?
00:01:21 Overview of the Five B's Framework
00:02:37 Question 1: Are You and Sales Aligned on Target Customers?
00:05:58 Question 2: Is Your Understanding Based on Customer Interviews?
00:09:21 Question 3: Are Content Pillars Based on Customer Pain Points?
00:11:45 Question 4: Is Your Content Led by Subject Matter Experts?
00:15:32 Question 5: Is Your Content Matched to Stages of Awareness?
00:18:34 Question 6: Do You Have a Content Repurposing System?
00:21:30 Question 7: Are You Tracking Leading and Lagging Indicators?
00:23:29 Question 8: Have You Tried Account-Based Marketing?
00:25:00 Question 9: Do You Have Product Ads Running?
00:26:29 Question 10: Is Your Demand Gen Strategy Documented?
00:28:17 Get Help with the B2B Incubator Program
00:29:24 Key Takeaways and Next Steps
00:30:31 Closing Remarks
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S06 E133 - The B2B Playbook
How do you get buy-in from your organization to pursue Demand Generation as a strategy?
We show you EXACTLY how, step-by-step.
(Plus we share some free templates to help you put together the presentation you need to!)
We cover everything from evaluating the effectiveness of your current lead generation efforts to calculating the true ROI of your marketing activities, including often-overlooked costs like sales time. Additionally, we introduce the concept of a "split the funnel" analysis to identify high-intent leads and demonstrate the significant impact demand generation can have on your pipeline and revenue.}
We share clear examples, real-world scenarios, and walk you through the process of presenting a data-driven business case to leadership, highlighting the limitations of traditional lead generation and the scalable growth potential of demand generation.
This is pt.4 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
Tune in and learn:
How to assess the profitability of your current marketing efforts
The importance of including sales costs in your ROI calculations
Techniques for identifying high-intent vs. low-intent leads
Strategies for gradually shifting towards a demand generation model
Tips for building a convincing business case for demand generation
This episode is a must-watch for any B2B marketer looking to drive sustainable growth, improve sales enablement, and gain leadership buy-in for a demand generation strategy.
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00:03:18 Defining Demand Generation
00:05:15 The 97% Market Opportunity
00:06:15 Evaluate Current Strategy
00:07:24 Calculating Cost per Lead
00:09:52 Including Sales Cost in ROI
00:11:46 Calculating Revenue from Leads
00:14:02 The Importance of True ROI
00:15:22 Split the Funnel Analysis
00:19:01 Mapping High vs Low Intent Leads
00:21:58 Proposing Demand Generation
00:24:23 Building the Business Case
00:27:00 Gradual Shift to Demand Gen
00:29:11 Key Takeaways
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S06 E132 - The B2B Playbook
Are you wondering if demand generation is the right fit for your company? We bring out the whiteboard again in this video to explore which companies are suited for demand gen. We'll take into account different go-to-market strategies, industries, and business models.
We examine real-life success stories, from traditional manufacturing to cutting-edge SaaS businesses, demonstrating the power of demand gen across various industries.
Whether you're a sales-led organization struggling to connect with the right prospects or a marketing team seeking better alignment with sales, this video will provide you with valuable insights and a practical framework to drive sustainable growth for your business.
This is part.3 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
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Why your go-to-market motion doesn't matter for demand gen success
How demand generation can impact companies in any industry
The right time and prioritization for implementing a demand gen strategy
If you're a B2B marketer or a leader exploring whether now is the right time to start investing in demand generation, this episode is for you.
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00:00:00 Intro: What Companies are Suited for Demand Gen?
00:01:02 Defining Demand Generation
00:02:56 Does Go-to-Market Motion Matter?
00:05:20 Demand Gen for Inbound and Outbound Strategies
00:07:13 Demand Gen for Other Go-to-Market Motions
00:09:06 Demand Gen for Outbound Sales Teams
00:10:38 Why Industry Doesn't Matter
00:13:22 Demand Gen Complements All Go-to-Market Strategies
00:14:23 A Real-Life Demand Gen Success Story
00:17:18 Demand Gen Impacts All Industries
00:18:36 The Right Time and Prioritization for Demand Gen
00:19:27 Key Takeaways
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S06 E131 - The B2B Playbook
When is the right time to invest in Demand Generation? Are you struggling to scale your B2B business? Tired of feeling like you're searching for a needle in a haystack when it comes to finding new customers? If so, it might be time to explore demand generation.
What is Demand Generation? If you asked 10 different marketers, you'd get 10 different answers. But at The B2B Playbook, we are practitioners and teachers of Demand Generation. So we're here to set the record straight.
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In this episode of The B2B Playbook, we break down when is the right time for your B2B company to start a demand generation strategy. We share the brutal truth about why most businesses struggle to scale without demand gen and reveal the key prerequisite your company needs before launching a program.
This is part.2 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
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The critical prerequisite your B2B company needs before starting demand generation
3 signs that signal your business is ready for a demand gen program
How to launch a successful demand generation pilot project
You'll discover the tell-tale signs that indicate your business is ready for demand generation, including the ideal company size, team structure, and level of product-market fit. We also provide practical tips on how to start small with a pilot project, support your existing acquisition channels, and document your demand gen strategy for long-term success.}
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00:00 Intro: When to Start Demand Generation?
02:14 Recapping the 5 Bs Framework
04:37 The Importance of Demand Generation
06:33 Prerequisite: Product Market Fit
09:22 Signs Your Business is Ready for Demand Gen
11:52 Starting Small with a Pilot Project
14:02 Supporting Existing Acquisition Channels
15:42 Documenting Your Demand Gen Strategy
17:07 Key Takeaways: When to Start Demand Gen
18:40 Outro and Call-to-Action
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S06 E130 - The B2B Playbook
What is Demand Generation? If you asked 10 different marketers, you'd get 10 different answers. But at The B2B Playbook, we are practitioners and teachers of Demand Generation. So we're here to set the record straight.
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This is part.1 of our mini-series on Demand Generation, where we answer every question you could possibly have around the topic.
Tune in and learn:
what demand generation is
why your business needs it and its benefits
the difference between lead gen vs demand gen
We'll also share our favourite framework to simplify demand generation. This is a 'must listen' for any B2B marketer that's looking for sustainable growth engines to fuel their business.
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00:04:30 What Is Demand Generation?
00:11:35 The Core Components of Demand Gen
00:13:03 The Five Stages of Awareness
00:18:47 The Importance of Being First-Mind
00:21:49 Crafting a Healthy Demand Gen Engine
00:28:35 The Challenge of Attribution in Demand Gen
00:31:47 Demand Gen vs. Brand Marketing
00:33:03 Lead Gen: The Good, Bad, and Ugly
00:39:22 The Limitations of Lead Gen
00:40:58 The Strategic Advantage of Early Demand Gen
00:42:09 Framework for Demand Creation
00:43:57 Closing Thoughts & What's Next
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S06 E129 - The B2B Playbook
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This week we have one of LinkedIn's very own marketers - Lucy Sonter - on the show to walk us through how the beast itself pulls together its own B2B go-to-market strategy.
Lucy shares stories and examples from successful product launches at LinkedIn. In her former life, Lucy also worked in Sales, so she's able to weigh in on how sales and marketing can work better together.
Tune in and learn:
how to leverages sales insights to enrich your marketing strategies
how LinkedIn changed everyone's mind about using their 'audience network'
what customer insights you need and how to gather them
Just like many of our listeners and viewers, Lucy's team is resource and time strapped - so she faces many of the same problems that you do.
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00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction
00:06:00 - The Journey from Sales to Marketing
00:12:00 - Customer Insights: The Foundation of Strategy
00:18:00 - Participating in Customer Advisory Boards
00:24:00 - Hindi Ads Case Study: Overcoming Language Barriers
00:30:00 - LinkedIn Audience Network: A Global Perspective
00:36:00 - Sales and Marketing Alignment: A Personal Take
00:42:00 - Enhancing APAC Strategies with Local Insights
00:48:00 - Wrap-Up: The Importance of Measurement
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S05 E128 - The B2B Playbook
Thinking of starting a B2B podcast for your company or personal brand? Or running one but you it's not achieving the goals you wanted it to?
With 130+ episodes in the bank and over $1million+ in pipeline generated from their podcast, hosts of The B2B Playbook Kevin Chen and George Coudounaris share all the things they wish they knew before getting started.
Because let's face it, it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows!
Many of these questions have been sourced directly from the audience - so it's likely your question has been covered!
Tune in and learn:
5 essential steps to launch your podcast
how to make your audience fall in love with it
the process and equipment you need to run the whole show smoothly
This episode is a must-watch for B2B SaaS marketers who want a solid strategy to follow that's guaranteed to drive long term pipeline.
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00:00 Kickoff: Why Your B2B Company Needs a Podcast
05:45 First Steps: Planning Your Podcast Strategy
11:30 Content Creation: Engaging Your Audience
17:15 Tech Talk: Essential Gear for Starting
22:50 Promotion Tactics: Increasing Your Reach
28:25 Guest Selection: Booking Impactful Voices
34:00 Analytics Deep Dive: Measuring Success
39:35 Monetization Strategies: Making Profit
45:10 Listener Engagement: Building a Community
50:45 SEO for Podcasts: Boosting Visibility
56:20 Future Trends: Staying Ahead in Podcasting
61:55 Case Studies: Real Success Stories
67:30 Challenges & Solutions: Overcoming Obstacles
73:05 Final Thoughts: Your Next Steps
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S05 E127 - The B2B Playbook
This week we have B2B SEO strategy and execution expert Sam Dunning on the show to walk us through how B2B marketers can use SEO to capture more demand and drive pipeline while they sleep.
Sam shares his no nonsense strategies and frameworks that transform SEO from a mere traffic generator to a robust lead and revenue-driving machine. Learn about common pitfalls, advanced tactics, and the essential components of a successful SEO strategy tailored for the B2B landscape.
Tune in and learn:
the biggest mistakes you're probably making when it comes to B2B SEO
frameworks you need to use to make your audience AND Google love your content
how to drive qualified pipeline with SEO while you sleep
We love how simple and actionable Sam's frameworks are. They fit so nicely into our own 5 BEs Framework for demand generation. If you listen to this episode, you will be able to start executing his strategy straight away.
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00:04:00 The Biggest SEO Mistakes in B2B
00:08:00 Key Strategies for Effective B2B SEO
00:12:00 Utilizing Content for SEO Success
00:16:00 SEO Myths Debunked
00:20:00 Building a Strong SEO Foundation
00:24:00 The Role of Backlinks in B2B SEO
00:28:00 On-page SEO Techniques
00:32:00 SEO Tools and Resources
00:36:00 Measuring SEO Impact
00:40:00 Future Trends in B2B SEO
00:44:00 Integrating SEO with Other Channels
00:48:00 SEO Success Stories
00:52:00 Q&A with SEO Expert
00:56:00 Closing Remarks and Takeaways
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S05 E126 - The B2B Playbook
How can B2B SaaS companies drive long term revenue with Demand Generation? What gaps do most have in their strategy? How can they execute this strategy with so few resources?
This week George Coudounaris sits down with Factors.ai to share The B2B Playbook's Demand Generation Framework - The 5 BEs Framework.
He also answers questions from the audience on practically applying this framework, as well as any tips in executing it.
Tune in and learn:
the 5 BEs Framework for demand generation
how to build a content engine that delivers revenue and is highly resource efficient
how to start implementing this framework in your business
This episode is a must-watch for B2B SaaS marketers who want a solid strategy to follow that's guaranteed to drive long term pipeline.
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00:30 George's Introduction & B2B Playbook Overview
03:00 Fundamentals of Demand Generation
06:00 Learning from Performance Marketing
09:00 The 5 BEs Framework Explained
12:00 Be Ready: Understanding Your Audience
15:00 Be Helpful: Creating Valuable Content
18:00 Be Seen: Amplifying Your Message
21:00 Be Better: Optimizing Your Approach
24:00 Be the Best: Advanced Tactics
27:00 Generating Demand for B2B Incubator
30:00 Effective Content Marketing Strategies
36:00 Enhancing LinkedIn Ads for Demand Gen
39:00 Conclusion & Final Thoughts
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S05 E125 - The B2B Playbook
This week we sit down with B2B Social Media Marketing expert Meryoli Arias to share how she helped Apollo.io's social media grow 400% in 9 months.
She details the strategies she used to drive this rapid growth, and has set the foundations in place for a brand that continues to grow because people know, like and trust it.
Tune in and learn:
the importance of 'listening' and amplifying the voices of your audience
the '3 circles' you need to communicate with on social media to build a strong brand
how to get your colleagues to post more on LinkedIn (employee advocacy!)
This episode is a must-watch for marketers who want to build trust with the Dream Customers on social media.
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00:00 Intro: The Three Circles of Social Media
02:00 Apollo's Explosive Social Media Growth
04:20 Crafting Apollo's Social Media Strategy
06:50 Driving Apollo's Community Engagement
09:10 Harnessing Organic Conversations for Growth
11:30 Building Apollo's Brand Narrative
14:00 Leveraging Employee Advocacy for Organic Reach
16:20 Empowering Employees: The Power of Personal Brand
18:40 Maximizing LinkedIn for Brand Amplification
21:00 The Strategy Behind Apollo's Social Success
23:20 Keeping Social Media Management Agile and Organic
25:40 The Impact of Social Media Authenticity
28:00 Partner Takeovers: A Strategy for Expanded Reach
30:20 The Future: Innovating Apollo's Social Media
32:40 Conclusion: The Power of Community in Social Media
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S05 E124 - The B2B Playbook
Demand Generation Marketing is one of the most important go-to-market strategies that a business must execute if it wants to scale profitably. But it can be so confusing and seems so hard to define.
The good news?
We have a framework for Demand Generation marketing that has been rigorously tested, and led many B2B marketers to go from being 'order takers' from sales, to being the major contributors to pipeline.
In this episode, we take you through our proven 5 BEs Framework for Demand Generation, so any marketer can put in place a long term revenue engine in their business. For you that means: a better relationship with sales, leads that turn into revenue, and a business that can scale profitably.
We've detailed our 5 BEs Framework for demand generation throughout The B2B Playbook, covering each of the 5 BEs in a season:
Season 1 - BE Ready - Deeply understand your customers
Season 2 - BE Helpful - Build relationships with your best customers
Season 3 - BE Seen - Amplify and accelerate demand with paid media and ABM
Season 4 - BE Better - Optimise your workflow
Season 5 - BE The Best - Advanced tactics
In this episode, we give you an overview of our 5 BEs Framework for Demand Generation so you can start creating your own demand engine, or plugging the gaps in your existing one.
Tune in and learn:
why demand generation is more important now than ever
the 5 BEs Framework that you can implement in your business
success stories from marketers like you that are now driving revenue
Whether you're new to demand generation or looking to enhance your existing strategies, this episode provides the knowledge and tools you need to make a significant impact on your B2B marketing efforts.
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00:00 Introduction: Unveiling the 5 BEs Framework for Demand Gen
03:10 Deep Dive: Why the 5 BEs Matter
06:50 Solving B2B Challenges: Insights & Solutions
10:20 Tackling Misalignment and Lead Quality
13:30 Embracing Dark Social for Community Building
17:00 The 5 BEs Explained: A Comprehensive Overview
20:40 Target Audience: Who Benefits the Most?
24:00 The Power of In-House Marketing
27:50 From Podcast to YouTube: Our Content Journey
31:20 Future Directions & The Role of AI
34:30 Practical Steps: Implementing the Demand Generation 5 BEs Framework
37:40 Closing Thoughts: What's Next?
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S05 E123 - The B2B Playbook
This week we sit down with B2B BoFu content expert Lashay Lewis, who shares her strategy and secrets of a Bottom of Funnel Content Strategy that converts and captures demand.
She unveils the intricacies of tailoring content to drive conversions, providing practical strategies to nurture prospects effectively at the final stage of the buying journey.
Tune in and learn:
techniques for measuring and optimizing the impact of your Bottom of Funnel content
how to create compelling content that resonates with late-stage prospects
strategies to align your sales and marketing efforts for cohesive funnel progression
This episode is a must-watch for marketers aiming to refine their Bottom of Funnel strategy and drive meaningful engagement that converts. Transform your approach and witness the power of targeted content in action!
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00:03:30 Unveiling the Power of SEO in B2B
00:07:00 Crafting Your B2B Narrative
00:10:30 The Secret Sauce: Bottom of Funnel Content
00:14:00 Fine-Tuning Your BOFU Approach
00:17:30 Key Strategies in BOFU Optimization
00:21:00 Aligning Content with Sales Goals
00:28:00 Measuring Content Success
00:35:00 Sales and Marketing: A Symbiotic Relationship
00:38:30 Advanced Techniques in BOFU Content
00:42:00 ROI Maximization Strategies
00:45:30 Content Scalability Secrets
00:49:00 Unlocking New Opportunities with Content
00:52:30 Driving Engagement: Next-Level Tactics
01:03:00 Recap: Key Takeaways
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S05 E122 - The B2B Playbook
Demand Generation is the strategy that B2B organisations need to scale their businesses effectively. But when you ask marketers what demand generation means, you get so many different answers.
In this interview, Founder of The B2B Playbook, George Coudounaris, gives away their simple 3 Step Strategy for Demand Generation. We also go into topics like:
how to create and capture demand
the strategy you need to drive more demand
how you can do this in an efficient way with limited resources
PLUS at the end we share some examples of companies that have taken this strategy and used it to make their marketing team the main driver of pipeline for their business.
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00:05:00 Deep Dive into Demand Creation
00:07:30 The 5 BEs Demand Generation Framework
00:11:30 Balancing Demand Creation & Capture
00:12:00 Scaling Demand Creation & Capture
00:18:00 Getting Buy-In for Demand Creation
00:20:30 Challenges in B2B Demand Generation
00:22:30 Earning Trust in Marketing
00:25:30 Content Repurposing & Tools
00:30:00 Leveraging Technology for Demand Creation
00:31:10 The B2B Incubator's Unique Approach
00:33:10 Perfecting Campaigns with Team Collaboration
00:35:00 Real-World Impact of Demand Creation
00:37:50 B2B Demand Generation for Small Teams
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S05 E121 - The B2B Playbook
This week we have a 7x ex-head of sales - turned marketing expert on The B2B Playbook - Adem Manderovic!
He's combined his unique experience as both an 'old school' seller and a modern marketer to bring us an advanced, holistic Demand Generation framework that drives better commercial outcomes called Closed Circuit Selling.
Tune in and learn:
why marketers need to 'Catalogue the Market'
how and why you need to validate a channel before you begin
why marketers need to 'go backwards to go forwards'
And most importantly, the business acumen that has been lost by marketers and sales people alike that is now more important than ever.
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00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Adem Manderovic
05:00 Understanding Commercial Acumen in B2B
10:00 The Concept of Closed Circuit Selling
15:00 Addressing Sales and Marketing Disconnection
20:00 Effective Demand Generation Tactics
25:00 Enhancing Customer Journeys and Experiences
30:00 Marketing and Sales Alignment Strategies
35:00 Crafting Persuasive Sales Content
40:00 Future Trends in B2B Sales and Marketing
45:00 Wrapping Up: Key Insights and Takeaways
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S05 E120 - The B2B Playbook
It's the grand finale of Season 5 of The B2B Playbook, so we're giving you the TL;DL version! We show you what it means to 'Be The Best' when it comes to your demand generation marketing, exploring cutting-edge concepts like neuroscience in marketing and the burgeoning role of educational ecosystems.
This also means that we're at the end of our 5 BEs Framework for demand generation. We've been sharing it with you step-by-step now for 119 episodes - pretty crazy!
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00:00:00 Introduction to Season Five Recap
00:03:40 Exploring 'Be the Best'
00:07:00 Neuroscience in B2B Marketing
00:10:30 Applying the 5 BEs Framework
00:14:10 Fun Tactics from Big Brands
00:17:00 Ethical Concerns in Marketing
00:20:30 Building an Education Ecosystem
00:24:00 Consistency and Success in Marketing
00:27:20 Challenges in Implementing Strategies
00:31:10 Future of Education Ecosystems
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S05 E119 - The B2B Playbook
Still struggling to keep up with content creation?
Even with a system in place, new channels and their content requirements can quickly blow out your workload.
We’re here to help, particularly you small business marketers!
We recap our content repurposing framework and process, but also give you some great tips on how to take it to the next level!
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Dream 100.
Remember that great concept we talked about all those episodes ago, way back in season 1?!
Well now it’s time to leverage that concept when making the most of affiliates and partnerships!
This week, we’ll tell you why it’s so powerful and when to look into it. As well that, we’ll give you a simple framework and process to go about getting these going.
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Scale can be a problem in itself..
As your business grows, the mission gets fuzzy and the brand gets harder to explain.
That can happen internally and externally.
It makes it harder for your brand to stand out, and certainly makes your job as a B2B marketer harder!
If it’s hard for your team to remember the tagline, how will your customers remember what it is that you do and your potential customers to understand your value?
That’s where revisiting your storybrand comes in.
This week, we not only revisit what that’s all about, but also give you practical examples and tips on how you can use it at the Be Better stage of your B2B marketing journey.
Links Mentioned:
A Stanford study by Gordon Bower and Michal Clark in 1969
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How did we go from performance marketers that nobody knew, to some of the most recognizable and leading voices in the Demand Generation community?
In this episode, we go deep into how we have applied our own 5 BEs Framework for Demand Generation to our own business, sharing the strategy and tools we used to help execute it. Not only do we share our wins, but our challenges, learnings, and the role of feedback in refining our approach. Get ready to be empowered with practical insights that can reshape your approach to B2B marketing and drive tangible results.
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00:00 - Introduction
05:00 - Transitioning to B2B Marketing
10:00 - Building the 5B's Framework
15:00 - Applying the Framework
20:00 - Insights and Mistakes
25:00 - Refining and Implementing Strategy
30:00 - Expanding Reach and Learning
35:00 - The Importance of Feedback
40:00 - Future Plans and Adjustments
45:00 - Conclusion and Key Takeaways
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S05 E118 - The B2B Playbook
Are you ready to transform your B2B demand gen marketing strategies? Dive into this episode of The B2B Playbook, where we unravel the most effective content framework for demand generation marketers.
Understand the intricacies of influencing buying journeys and discover how to utilize these insights to make a significant impact in your B2B space. From exploring the five stages of awareness to implementing practical, actionable strategies, this episode is a goldmine for anyone looking to elevate their B2B marketing game.
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00:00 - Introduction to B2B Playbook
03:50 - Understanding Demand Generation
10:00 - Uncovering the Five Stages of Awareness
15:30 - Addressing the Unaware Stage
21:10 - Tackling the Problem Aware Stage
27:40 - Exploring Solution Aware Content
34:00 - Delving into Product Aware Content
40:50 - Most Aware Stage: The Final Push
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S05 E117 - The B2B Playbook
Make an offer SO DAMN GOOD that your customer feels stupid saying ‘NO’ to it.
That’s the challenge we laid down to our B2B marketers in this episode of The B2B Playbook. Now, most marketers when they think about an ‘irresistible offer’ turn their minds to pricing, free trials, or overpromising with huge commercial outcomes.
But that’s not a sustainable approach. And here at The B2B Playbook, we’re all about long term b2b demand generation strategies that scale.
An ‘irresistible’ offer is about creating an offer so perfectly aligned with your customers’ deepest needs that they would find it irrational to decline. So today, through our easy to follow seven-step process, we’ll show you how you can transform your offer from ‘just another option’ to the obvious choice for your Dream Customer.
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00:00 - Introduction to Crafting Irresistible Offers
00:03:34 - Niching Down for Better Targeting
00:07:00 - Understanding Your Dream Customers
00:10:36 - Defining Unique Value Propositions
00:13:00 - Effective Positioning Strategies
00:15:20 - Determining Your Pricing Strategy
00:18:00 - Big Fish, Small Pond Positioning
00:21:00 - Crafting and Testing Your Offer
00:24:05 - Real-World Positioning Insights
00:27:20 - Crafting Irresistible Offers
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S05 E116 - The B2B Playbook
Change is the only constant. That's more true than ever in demand generation marketing.
Thankfully, there's an easy way to stay on top of these changes and thrive, not just survive!
In this week's episode of The B2B Playbook, join George Coudounaris and Kevin Chen as they delve into the ever-shifting paid media landscape of digital marketing. Discover how understanding these changes is crucial for your marketing strategy and how applying The 5 Be’s Framework with its evergreen concepts can help you not only understand but master these shifts in the digital world.
We'll explore the impact of recent privacy policies, the integration of AI in marketing strategies, and the significance of adapting to user behaviours. This episode is for newbie and seasoned B2B marketers!
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00:00 Kickoff: Unveiling Our Demand Gen Secrets
01:13 Paid Media Evolution: What Marketers Must Know
02:40 Privacy Policy Upheaval: Impact on Digital Ads
04:49 AI in Marketing: Google's Game-Changing Tactics
05:30 Smart Budgeting in the New Marketing Era
06:48 Adapting Marketing Strategies for Success
07:20 High-Intent Google Search: A Marketing Goldmine
07:28 The Great Privacy Shift: Adapting to New Norms
11:00 User Behavior: The Secret to Marketing Success
13:00 Customer Insights: Guiding Your Marketing Path
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S05 E115 - The B2B Playbook
Is the line between B2B and B2C marketing blurring? In this episode, we dissect the convergence of B2B and B2C marketing strategies. We dive into the 5B's Framework and discuss how it's more relevant than ever in both contexts. Don't miss our key insights and actionable tips!
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00:01:19 - Unveiling the 5B's Framework: What You Need to Know!
00:02:21 - Why the 5B's Framework is Your Go-To Marketing Cycle
00:04:30 - The Secret Sauce of Effective Hooks in Marketing
00:05:28 - How Digital Noise is Changing B2B Interactions
00:09:00 - The Real Reason It's Hard to Stand Out in B2B
00:14:09 - Instant Results: The Power of Digital Tracking
00:16:48 - The Golden Rule: Value and Brand Loyalty in B2B
00:20:28 - The Universal Truths of B2B and B2C Marketing
00:22:31 - Evolving the 5BE's: What Needs to Change
00:27:10 - Don't Miss This: Final Thoughts and Next Steps
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S05 E114 - The B2B Playbook
Are you struggling to scale your B2B marketing efforts? Do you lead a small team and wonder how to make a big impact? In this episode of The B2B Playbook, we dive deep into the strategies, tools, and mindset you need to scale your B2B marketing function effectively. We cover everything from cross-functional collaboration to tech stack, data privacy and security practices and more!
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00:01:10 - Unlocking Career Growth in B2B Marketing
00:02:30 - The Golden Rule of Scaling: Fix It or Forget It!
00:06:00 - How to Add Value to Your Dream Customers
00:08:00 - Why Early Decisions Save Money in Scaling
00:10:50 - Not Legal Advice
00:13:50 - Mastering Cross-Functional Collaboration
00:15:00 - Ego vs. Teamwork: What Wins?
00:19:00 - Why Marketing is the Glue in Business
00:20:00 - The Secret to Effective Cross-Functional Teams
00:20:33 - Key Takeaways: Don't Miss This!
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S05 E113 - The B2B Playbook
Welcome to another episode of The B2B Playbook Podcast! Today, we're diving deep into the challenges of scaling your B2B marketing team. We'll discuss how to identify and fix bottlenecks, why team dynamics matter, and the importance of having an All-Star Process. Tune in to discover actionable insights and strategies for scaling your B2B team effectively.
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00:05:20 The Crucial Moment to Fix Broken Processes
00:06:40 Streamlining Bottlenecks: A Game Changer
00:07:30 Why You Need Quarterly Reviews in Marketing
00:08:30 The Impact of Team Dynamics on Success
00:09:30 The Secret Sauce: All-Star Process Over All-Star Team
00:12:20 Building a Diverse Team: Why It Matters
00:13:40 The Learning Curve: Individual Preferences in Problem-Solving
00:14:50 Task Management: Prescriptive vs. Free-Form
00:21:50 Freelancers: The Extra Mile for Better Results
00:22:00 Key Takeaways: When to Fix and When to Let Go
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S05 E112 - The B2B Playbook
Have you ever wondered how big brands subtly influence our purchasing decisions? Learn the neuromarketing secrets that allow them to manipulate our brains with subtle mind tricks.
In this video, we break down techniques like anchoring, loss aversion and the Goldilocks effect that tap into the way our minds work on an evolutionary level. Discover how to ethically apply these same methods to capture attention, steer choices and drive sales for your B2B business.
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00:00 Introduction
01:15 Be the Best - Season Five Introduction
01:35 Unlocking Neuromarketing Secrets
02:10 Anchoring in B2B Marketing
02:41 Mastering Anchoring Techniques
04:31 The Power of Price Anchoring
05:16 Patterns and Anchoring Effects
06:25 Strategic Mindset: Manual vs Automatic Mode
25:52 Loss Aversion: The Fear of Missing Out
33:03 Key Takeaways and Action Steps
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S05 E111 - The B2B Playbook
Unlock the secrets of scarcity and unity to drive more revenue for your business. In this episode, we dive deep into the psychology behind these powerful principles and how you can leverage them in your marketing strategy. Don't miss out on these game-changing insights!
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:03:30 - Principles of Scarcity and Unity
00:07:00 - Real-world Examples
00:10:30 - Scarcity in Ticket Sales
00:14:00 - Scarcity in the Auto Industry
00:17:30 - Scarcity in Toy Industry
00:21:00 - Apple's Scarcity Tactics
00:24:30 - The Cookie Jar Experiment
00:28:00 - Summary and Takeaways
00:31:30 - Closing Remarks
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S05 E110 - The B2B Playbook
More B2B Marketing neuroscience insights this week! We hope you’re enjoying this mini-series!
This week, we’re looking at Social Proofing. That age old feeling that something is good if others seem to think it’s good.
As usual we dive into a quick definition before getting into some great examples of it at play, including our own experience in utilising it.
It’s a great avenue for showcasing your helpfulness, so it sits really well within our framework and philosophy. We also talk about some practical ways you can start utilising the principle and testing what works best for your marketing.
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00:00:00 Introduction: The Principle of Social Proof
00:04:00 The Power of Reviews in Decision Making
00:05:00 Social Proof on Websites & Platforms
00:06:00 The Impact of Lines & Crowds
00:10:50 The Bartender Strategy & Tipping
00:12:00 Childhood Fads and Social Proof
00:17:20 User Generated Content & Authenticity
00:19:00 The Role of Influencers in Social Proof
00:22:00 Key Takeaways & The Power of Validation
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S05 E109 - The B2B Playbook
We’re continuing to explore neuroscience insights for B2B marketing levers to pull.
This week, we’re looking at ‘Liking’ & Authority as two more key principles to help guide us at the forefront of our respective industries.
These are a few more tried and true principles that not only help us make sense of what’s happening in the marketing world around us, but also allow us to tap into these principles in our own work as we look to continue to get better at helping our dream customers.
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00:00:00 Ryan Reynolds' Success with Mint Mobile
00:02:00 Introduction to Liking & Authority
00:04:00 The Power of Liking in Marketing
00:05:00 The Telephone Fundraising Experiment
00:06:00 Real-world Implications of Liking
00:14:40 The Milgram Experiment & Authority
00:16:00 Authority in Marketing & Endorsements
00:17:00 Michael Jordan's Endorsement of Nike
00:19:20 Trusting Tim Ferriss as an Authority
00:20:20 Building Brand Authority in Marketing
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S05 E108 - The B2B Playbook
Neuroscience and B2B marketing.
It seems like there’s a wide gulf between the two only the biggest of businesses and industry experts can bridge in their work.
But that’s not true! All you need is the knowledge of the key principles and some examples to help guide your thinking as you start to apply these ideas to better frame your own marketing efforts.
Chances are you’re already familiar with and actioning some of these things by applying The 5 Be’s Framework, in which we’ve baked in a lot of these ideas!
We start our miniseries on Neuroscience by looking at the principles of reciprocity and consistency.
While we try not to play too many mind tricks, there’s certainly a few levers here you’ll be able to pull to better help your dream customers!
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06:10 The Power of Triggers: Mother Turkeys' Instinct
13:10 Introduction: The Power of Reciprocity
14:00 Building Relationships through Giving
15:30 The Principle of Reciprocity in Action
17:00 Giving Value without Expectations
18:20 Commitment and Consistency in Marketing
19:50 Cognitive Dissonance and Consistency
22:20 Small Commitments Leading to Bigger Actions
23:50 Nurturing Relationships with Value
24:50 Moving Up the Value Chain
27:00 Conclusion and Recap
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S05 E107 - The B2B Playbook
Explore the power of building an education ecosystem and discover how leading brands like HubSpot and Segment have mastered this approach. Learn about the Five B Framework and how it can transform your marketing strategies.
As we get into further areas of study, one such area to look further into is education ecosystems.
Why do companies invest so much time into building an education hub? What are the benefits, and what are examples of good and bad ones?
In this episode, we’re exploring those questions as well as how to go about building one for yourself.
It’s the next level up on being helpful with your content. And one that has a lot of impact. But only if it’s right for your business!
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00:00 Introduction: Building an Education Ecosystem
01:00 The Five B Framework Overview
02:00 The Role of Education in Brand Building
03:00 AI's Influence in Modern Marketing
04:20 Real-world Examples: SAS Platform
05:10 HubSpot and Segment as Leading Examples
06:40 The Pain Points in B2B Marketing
07:50 The Power of an Education Ecosystem
13:30 Automating Knowledge for Business Growth
14:50 The Benefits of an Education Ecosystem
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S05 E106 - The B2B Playbook
This week on The B2B Playbook, we take you on a WILD journey where we turned a modest $500 investment into a thriving LinkedIn Ads campaign. We put our money where our mouth is and show you the demand generation strategy we used to create a campaign that generated a ROAS of 38:1 in pipeline.
Join us as we unveil the strategies, collaborations, and insights that made the campaign so successful. Tune in now to witness a marketing experiment come to life, achieving remarkable results and setting the stage for future successes. It's a story of growth, learning, and triumph that you won't want to miss!
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00:00 Introduction: Campaign Goals and ROI
10:00 Analyzing Initial Results and ROI from LinkedIn Ads
18:30 Discussing Cohort Capacity and Revenue
19:20 Partner Incentives and Rewards
26:10 Attribution Challenges and Strategies
29:20 Leveraging Qualitative Data
30:00 Refining Customer Targeting
37:20 Program Duration and Customer Satisfaction
38:00 Addressing Sales Friction
38:30 Discussing the 12-Week Program Timeframe
50:30 Future Strategies and Customer Journeys
51:00 Adjusting Messaging and Positioning
51:20 Applying the 80-20 Rule for Efforts
51:30 Engaging Newsletter Subscribers
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S05 E105 - The B2B Playbook
Thinking outside the box when it comes to following a B2B Marketing framework.
It’s almost a paradox to go outside the framework, but that’s exactly what we’re asking you to do!
Or more accurately, challenge yourself to look at the application of the framework differently each time you go through it.
We talk about what this looks like, why it’s important to do so and how to practically take action on this overarching principle when it comes to continuing to apply the 5 Be’s Framework over time.
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00:00 Introduction: Tactical Execution
00:20 The Purpose of the B2B Playbook
01:00 Overview of the Fifth B: "Be the Best"
01:50 The Importance of Creativity in Marketing
02:50 Thinking Outside the Framework
03:40 The Role of AI in Modern Marketing
14:50 Reviewing the Framework Regularly
16:10 The Repetitive Nature of Marketing Tasks
19:10 The Role of Data in AI-Driven Marketing
21:30 Making Marketing Personal and Memorable
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S05 E104 - The B2B Playbook
Dive deep into the world of B2B marketing with our latest episode of The B2B Playbook! Discover the Five B's Framework, the power of regular review, and the importance of staying updated with your audience. Whether you're a seasoned marketer or just starting out, this episode offers valuable insights and strategies to elevate your B2B marketing game. Don't miss out on the secrets to mastering B2B marketing. Watch now
As we dive into the details of Be The Best, we’re first covering some overarching concepts for this stage of the framework.
On a similar level to key principles like the 80/20 principle, we cover the concepts of The Circular Framework and Sharpening The Saw in detail.
But as is our style, we try to make it as practical as possible. This quick overview is only the starting point. These concepts will continue to pop up throughout the season, but be sure to lay the foundations with an understanding of what they’re all about in this episode!
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00:00 Introduction to the B2B Playbook
01:00 Overview of the Five B's Framework
08:00 Importance of Regular Review
09:00 The Value of Templates in B2B Marketing
12:10 Big Picture Priorities in Marketing
13:40 Revisiting Foundations for Better Alignment
16:00 The Concept of "Be the Best"
18:40 The Framework as a Tool for Growth
19:50 Sharpening the Saw and the 80-20 Rule
20:30 Key Takeaways from the Episode
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S05 E103 - The B2B Playbook
We’re here at the final BE of the 5 Be’s Framework and the 5th season of the podcast!
With just over 100 episodes under our belts, we still feel like we’re just getting started. And that’s the sort of optimism about B2B marketing that we hope to pass on in this season as well!
Here we cover some overarching themes to guide you in going forward with our framework, as well as some further areas of study that become more general in nature, but can still have a big impact on your B2B marketing workflow. And we round things off with some interesting topical themes and hopefully another series of great interviews with experts.
Looking forward to another great and HELPFUL season ahead for the podcast!
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00:00 Different Definitions And Processes For Addressing Issues
01:32 Becoming The Best: A Framework For B2b Marketing Success
05:24 The Circular Evolution Of The Five Bs Framework
09:03 The Value Of Having A Framework
10:19 Cross-functional Examples For Success: Rethinking Sales Tactics
12:18 Adapting Tactics For Building Relationships With Dream Customers
15:00 Crafting An Irresistible Offer For Your Dream Customer
17:10 Building Educational Content To Attract Customers: Lessons From Hubspot And The B2B Playbook
18:19 Exploring The Importance Of Addressing Issues And Defining Broken
21:18 The Importance Of Framework Over Short-term Tactics
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S05 E102 - The B2B Playbook
🎬 How do you prove that your B2B marketing campaigns are helping drive revenue for your business? As B2B marketers, it feels like we're constantly having to report prove our worth to both leadership and sales.
Sure, the latest campaign led to traffic and leads... but nobody really cares about that.
They want opportunities and REVENUE!
So we show you how you can track the performance of your marketing campaigns, and what REPORTING you need to set up to make it easy to see your activities are impacting revenue.
This is part of our experiment to see if, along with 4 of THE BEST marketers in the business, we can create THE PERFECT b2b marketing campaign. 🚀
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23:50 Understanding Ad Duplication
24:20 Importance of Social Proof in Ads
25:00 Discussing Attribution Types
28:20 Creating Reports with UTMs
29:00 Visualizing Data by Original Source
29:40 Setting Filters for Reports
35:00 Analyzing Ad Interactions
35:20 Mapping the Customer Journey
36:20 Using Different Report Visualizations
36:30 Filtering Reports by UTM
41:30 Analyzing Ad Interactions by Company
42:10 Breaking Down Interactions by Company
43:10 Setting Limits for Data Visualization
43:30 Analyzing Ad Groups and Companies
50:00 Wrapping Up the Discussion
50:20 Q&A Session with Monica
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00:00 Building A Demand Engine For Increased Revenue In 12 Weeks
03:50 The Importance Of Building A Demand Engine For Business Growth
07:26 Driving Business Forward With A Firm Demand Generation Strategy
11:47 Interactive Learning And Q&A Sessions For Business Strategy Execution
13:49 Building A Helpful Demand Engine: Creating Relationships At Scale
18:15 The B2B Incubator: Honest Reviews And Money-back...
🎬 How do you create LinkedIn Ads that lead to pipeline and REVENUE? What if you don't have a very big ads budget to play with? What objectives should you use?
What about creative??
We only had $500 to play with, so we had LinkedIn Ads expert Justin Rowe come in and devise a plan to make us ROI positive as soon as possible.
This is part of our experiment to see if, along with 4 of THE BEST marketers in the business, we can create THE PERFECT b2b marketing campaign. 🚀
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00:00 - Turning A Referral Fee Into A Lucrative Campaign: The Monica Experiment
05:38 - Utilizing Warm Audiences And Expert Positioning For Effective Advertising Campaigns
08:42 - The Power Of Organic Impressions And Combining Elements In Paid Ads
11:56 - Overview Of Creative Strategy For Cold And Warm Audiences
17:41 - Testing Strategies For B2B Demand Generation Marketing
25:45 - Prioritizing And Generating Demand From Dream Customers
28:50 - Addressing The Limitations Of Google Ads And The Need For Demand Creation
32:15 - Recommended Objectives For LinkedIn Ads
36:37 - Challenges And Strategies For Optimizing Ad Platforms
41:08 - Evaluating Campaign Performance And Testing Landing Pages
44:53 - Considerations For Audience Selection And Delivery Optimization In Advertising Campaigns
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The B2B Playbook
🎬 How can you create the PERFECT landing page for your B2B business? And what copywriting techniques can you use to help you convert MORE TRAFFIC into paying customers?
We've got copywriting and landing page wizard Jess Cook to show us exactly how.
This is part of our experiment to see if, along with 4 of THE BEST marketers in the business, we can create THE PERFECT b2b marketing campaign. 🚀
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02:40 Introduction and Setting Expectations
03:00 The Power of Customer Interviews
29:50 The Rule of Threes and User Behavior
30:20 Skimming and the Importance of Brevity
31:00 Customer Interviews and Identifying Problems
31:30 Discussing the Customer Interview Section
41:30 Feedback on the Application Form
42:00 The Placement of the Application Form
55:20 Discussing the "Homepages for Humans" Course
56:00 Conclusion and Next...
Are you a B2B marketer struggling to navigate the challenges of a down economy? You're not alone. But what if we told you that even in tough economic times, you can still generate demand and prove your worth?
Today we dive deep into the strategies that successful B2B marketers use to thrive in a down economy. We'll share insights on how to optimize your marketing strategy, navigate budget cuts, and continue generating demand when the going gets tough.
From understanding high intent keywords and leveraging Google's AI tools for better audience targeting, to efficient remarketing strategies and focusing on your Ideal Customer Profiles (ICPs), we've got you covered.
This episode is more than just a discussion - it's a treasure trove of actionable insights that can help you not just survive, but thrive in a down economy.
So, are you ready to turn the tide and make the most of your B2B marketing efforts? Hit play and let's get started!
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00:00 Opening
01:17 The Challenge: Proving Your Worth in a Down Economy
11:48 Leveraging High Intent Keywords in Economic Downturn
16:35 Budget Efficiency: Remarketing Strategies in a Down Economy
19:12 Key Takeaway: Prioritizing ICPs in Budget Cuts
20:24 Pressure & Creativity: Thriving in a Tough Economy
21:47 Redefine Best Customers for Effective Demand Generation
27:56 Leverage The Dream 100
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S04 E97 - The B2B Playbook
🎯 Join us on a mission to create The Perfect B2B Marketing Campaign! 💼✨ We know that every great campaign begins with customer research, and that's exactly where we're starting! 📚
In this exciting video, our Customer Interview expert Ryan Gibson 👨💼 will take you behind the scenes as he interviews our Dream Customer, Monica, to uncover valuable insights that will fuel our next marketing campaign. 🤔💡
Get ready for a full extract of the interview, where Monica shares her thoughts and experiences. 🗣️💭
But that's not all! 🌟 Join us as we dive into Ryan's insightful analysis of the interview and discover how we're leveraging those precious insights to supercharge our marketing campaign. 📈✨
Don't miss out on this epic journey! 🚀
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00:00 Introduction
02:00 Interview begins
42:00 Monica's Questions For Ryan
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🎬 Welcome to our latest video where we dive deep into the world of B2B marketing. We're testing if four of the best B2B marketers can create the perfect B2B marketing campaign. 🚀
All good campaigns start with customer research. So we got THE BEST in the business to help us out.
Ryan Gibson is the founder of ContentLift.io, and is here to interview our Ideal Customer - Monica.
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00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:43 Pre-interview: Agreeing on Objectives & Questions
06:10 Using Dovetail to Help with Collection & Analysis
09:33 Ryan's Analysis & Insights From The Interview
18:00 Discussing Pains and Anxieties
20:00 Discussing More Pains and Anxieties
21:00 Discussing Trust and Credibility
24:00 Discussing Time Management and Prioritization
28:00 Discussing Credibility and Trustworthiness
29:00 Discussing Experience and Outcomes
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The B2B Playbook
If you got THE BEST b2b marketers together... could you create THE PERFECT campaign??
To do it, we're going to need to create some serious wins for us and our collaborators.
Win-win-win…
…win-WIN!
As we try our best to deliver the PERFECT campaign, we’re trying to get a total of 5 wins from the same campaign!
What’s all this about? Well it’s our first collaboration campaign, with sponsors, experts, and our very helpful volunteer!
We want to do something different that hopefully is a win for you listeners as well, not just a sales pitch!
Check out this episode for all the details on how it came together!
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00:00 Opening
01:58 Introducing The Campaign
05:30 Inspiration for this Collaboration
08:20 How To Choose Who To Collaborate With
10:20 Stories Set You Apart From AI
14:46 Helping Us Take Content To The Nex Level
15:54 Creating Win-Win-Win Scenarios
21:54 How We Landed Our Sponsor
24:18 Measuring The Success of This Campaign
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S04 E94 - The B2B Playbook
In action packed episode of The B2B Playbook, we into the heart of effective B2B marketing with their innovative 5 B's Framework. This comprehensive approach is designed to help B2B marketers drive sustainable growth for their businesses.
From the initial stages of understanding your customers to optimizing your marketing workflow and leveraging advanced tactics like neuromarketing, the 5 B's Framework covers it all.
Join us as we recap the principles behind this framework, discuss why they created this podcast, and share who can benefit from it. Whether you're a seasoned B2B marketer or just starting out in the field, this episode is packed with insights that can transform your marketing strategy.
It’s been a while since we started the podcast.
Nothing like a quick end of season refresher as to why you’re even listening to us! And for those of you who have recently joined us, it’s a good episode where we can re-introduce ourselves.
While the framework hasn’t changed, we’ve certainly learned a lot in the last 90 episodes of doing the podcast. Our vision is a little clearer, and so is our message. So there’s still new things in this episode for our loyal listeners from the start!
Revision is always important in any case!
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00:00 Opening
01:50 Our 5 BEs Framework
03:53 Why We Call It Demand Generation
05:41 The Biggest Mistake B2B Companies Make
10:13 How To Create Demand - The 5 Stages of Awareness
12:41 The Difference Between Lead Generation and Demand Generation
16:52 The Emergence of Dark Social
22:09 Re-introducing our 5 BEs Framework
24:37 The Origin of Our 5 BEs Framework
31:32 Our Love for B2B Marketing
35:59 Our Strategy for Growing Our Business
37:49 Growing the Podcast
39:59 How to Grow By Listening to Our Podcast
42:32 The 5 BEs Framework and Demand Gen
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S04 E93 - The B2B Playbook
In this episode, we dive deep into the world of B2B marketing, sharing key insights and strategies to help you optimize your marketing workflow. We discuss the importance of the 80/20 principle, finding your 'why', the power of partnerships, and much more.
🎯 Key Topics Covered: 🎯
The 80/20 Principle in B2B Marketing
Bridging the Gap Between Sales and Marketing
The Power of Partnerships in B2B Marketing
Improving Impact with EDMs and Testing More Pay Channels
The Importance of Reporting in B2B Marketing
If you didn’t get a chance to follow us through this season but still want to get the most out of it, be sure to check out this episode to give you a quick access guide into the content of the season!
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It’s been a long, but great season.
We’ve reached the end. So here’s a wrap up episode to go through the highlights.
If you didn’t get a chance to follow us through this season but still want to get the most out of it, be sure to check out this episode to give you a quick access guide into the content of the season!
Links:
Ep 70: CRMs, CDPs, and Data
Ep 65, 66, 72: Reporting
Ep 68: CRO
Ep 69: Affiliates & Partners
Ep 74: Sales Analysis
Ep 71: EDMs
Ep 76: ChatGPT and AI tools
Ep 78: Content Repurposing
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Events can be a GAME changer for your business 🚀
But the last thing we want is another online webinar!
We’re all thinking it. If you’re anything like us, some of these event invites get automatically filed away to some dark folder in Gmail to never be read, or deleted immediately!
But let’s challenge that and ourselves to do events differently. Because it’s still an amazing channel for B2B marketers. There’s nothing quite like it for quality time with some people you as marketers really need to be talking to!
Nick Bennett gives us the lowdown on why the old way of doing events just doesn't cut it anymore and how pivoting towards event-led growth can seriously boost your pipeline and revenue. He's all about the experience, engagement, and data when it comes to nailing those successful events. 🎯
We also chat about the cool concept of brand evangelism and when it's the perfect time for a business to bring a brand evangelist on board. Nick shares his wisdom on why quality beats quantity in event engagement and the secret sauce to keeping the conversation buzzing after the event. 🗣️
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We’ve talked about reporting a few times.
It all sounds easy until you get to building it for yourself.
And then you realise there’s a lot of practical gaps from the theory to the practical implementation!
Well that’s what we’re hoping to address in this episode!
Pasha Irshad joins us as another true expert, to take us through exactly how to set up and use reports to facilitate alignment between your marketing team and sales and leadership.
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📺 The best B2B marketers collect and ACT on customer insights. But how do you actually do it?
In this episode, we show you first HOW to conduct a customer interview, and then how we use those insights to adjust our marketing strategy and tactics.
You'll also learn about how our demand gen program 'The B2B Incubator' has helped marketers in small teams.
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CABs, Customer Advocacy Boards.
Little known wonders of the B2B marketing toolkit.
While they’re not right for every business and for every stage of growth, it’s an important one to cover off. Because it could help you close the loop on the growth cycle.
We get another truly helpful expert, this time in CABs, to come talk to us all about it in this week’s episode. Taylor Bogar joins us right in the midst of building another set of CABs, sharing some market leading insights on them!
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We've created demand for The B2B Incubator using our podcast and LinkedIn from the ground up. It's now delivering regular pipeline and revenue for us. But we want to prove that we can do it again, so we're starting from scratch on YouTube!
In this episode we show you how we're building our YouTube channel. We're just getting started, so we're sharing our results so far and our plan to grow.
Key to this episode is a framework for creating demand that you can apply to any channel. We talk about key principles like deeply understanding your customers, creating helpful content regularly, and how to scale it using internal and external resources.
Listen to the episode and learn:
Tune in!
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It’s a monumental episode!
We have such a special guest on the show this week.
The GODFATHER of helpful marketing. Someone who has provided a significant amount of inspiration to us in our own journeys.
This week we chat with Timbo Reid, as he shared with us what being helpful in marketing really means and how to go about it and stick at it.
There’s a few great stories in there and is a timely reminder to all of us the power of being helpful, even as we’re deep in the trenches figuring out how to further optimise our B2B marketing workflow!
Links:
YOUtility - Jay Baer
Smallbusinessbigmarketing.com
Timbo’s membership
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Community. Can’t live with them, can’t live without them.
And they’re a hell of a nut to crack to build a successful one in any case!
Thankfully we were able to get Katie Ray onto the show this week to give us a masterclass on all things community!
She shared with us some important foundations to put in place, as well as how to manage the unpredictability of growing a community.
It’s a very helpful episode for those of us in the business of building a community to help others!
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While we’re on the topic of optimising…
How’s your LinkedIn personal and company pages looking?
Chances are, it’s not getting that much love. If it is, are you struggling with how to take it to the next level, while making sure you’re growing but not alienating potential customers?
How do you even build a genuine relationship anyway on LinkedIn? All you seem to see are sales pitches in DMs after some nondescript messages and ads from various brands.
Well that’s why we’re having Michelle Raymond join us this week on the podcast!
One of the cornerstones of any B2B marketing strategy, yet there’s a few things all of us are guilty of neglecting on LinkedIn.
Tune in for this week’s episode as Michelle runs us through some helpful guiding mindsets as well as practical details on how to go about building brands your employees are proud of, and relationships that are genuine and help deliver bottom line impact.
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Content marketing comes down to standing out and building trust.
But it’s easier said that done more than most things in our B2B marketing lives!
So this week we got a true expert in Jess Cook to tell us all about what successful content marketing looks like.
There’s so much value in what she says about how to start and where to go from there to keep scaling, even how to use those pesky AI tools that’s everywhere all of a sudden!
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You’ve probably tested LinkedIn ads, but not like this…
We’re speaking with a true expert on them this week. And as usual, we’ve zero’ed in on someone who’s being helpful with their expert content!
Justin Rowe takes us through his thoughts on how to make LinkedIn ads a success for any business, by thinking about it as an amplifier of your marketing ecosystem and not just another channel.
Who knows, you might just find that scale we’re all after these days!
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Your sales team responsible for outbound?
Wonder if it should sit within your marketing team’s remit?
Well we think they’re part of the same growth engine and should definitely sit together! Even if the division of labour isn’t as clean.
This week we have a helpful expert on outbound join us to discuss exactly what effective outbound looks like and how marketing and sales can and should work together to get it right.
At the end of the day, it forms an important part of the overall growth strategy of any business, particularly B2B ones!
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A special guest this week.
Bryan Williams joins us to discuss all things partnership!
We’re lucky to have him on the show. He is the founder of Hockey Stick Advisory, through which he helps tech businesses grow and scale by building curated partnership ecosystems and previously led Xero’s partnership ecosystem across AU and NZ. So he definitely knows what he’s talking about!
Beyond that, he’s just a nice guy to chat to!
We get his insights on what a model partnership looks like and whether you should go after one. And if you do, how to best approach it.
It’s a fantastic conversation for any business looking for growth!
Links to Relevant Resources:
Bryan Williams
HockyStickAdvisory.com
Partnership Leaders
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We've taken a quick break from 'Be Better' to bring you George Coudounaris' interview from the The LinkedIn for B2B Growth show.
It's not just because he loves the sound of his own voice...
... it's because he talks in-depth about:
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Still struggling to keep up with content creation?
Even with a system in place, new channels and their content requirements can quickly blow out your workload.
We’re here to help, particularly you small business marketers!
We recap our content repurposing framework and process, but also give you some great tips on how to take it to the next level!
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Scale can be a problem in itself..
As your business grows, the mission gets fuzzy and the brand gets harder to explain.
That can happen internally and externally.
It makes it harder for your brand to stand out, and certainly makes your job as a B2B marketer harder!
If it’s hard for your team to remember the tagline, how will your customers remember what it is that you do and your potential customers to understand your value?
That’s where revisiting your storybrand comes in.
This week, we not only revisit what that’s all about, but also give you practical examples and tips on how you can use it at the Be Better stage of your B2B marketing journey.
Links Mentioned:
A Stanford study by Gordon Bower and Michal Clark in 1969
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Not another piece of content about Chat GPT!
Well it is, but hopefully not one to make you either imagine riches or worry about your job!
It’s inevitable that such AI tools will become a part of your workflow, if it hasn’t already. But B2B marketers, don’t worry. We have some good news.
It probably means even more work for you! And it’s easy to understand and utilise them if you know where they slot in in our 5 Be’s Framework.
The fundamentals haven’t changed, so you don’t need to start everything again!
So tune to this week’s episode to find out how we understand AI tools like Chat GPT!
Links Mentioned:
Content Repurposing Episode
AI Tool Aggregator
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Retaining an existing customer is cheaper…
That’s the common saying, and it’s certainly true.
We’re going to run you through how to make that the case by working on deal expansion and retention.
We’ll talk about specific examples of how to do this and ways to measure the success of your efforts.
Links Mentioned:
Harvard Business Review Article RE Retention
Ep 72 - Previous Measurement Episode
Article on customer retention formula
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Things look rosy…
Leads are up, steadily scaling. You’re well on the way to hitting your targets.
Then the rug gets pulled from under you when you realise the leads are poor quality and aren’t profitable for the business.
This is a scenario all too familiar to marketers. It’s something we’ve experienced ourselves.
So let’s talk about how we can avoid that and get ahead of the trend!
This week, we talk about ways to look at and improve your business pipeline differently. So you can take more responsibility and control, work closer with your sales team and actually have bottomline impact with your day to day marketing activities.
We look at specific metrics and actions you can focus on to accomplish this shift towards better balancing quality and quantity, profitability and scale.
Links:
Article on calculating pipeline velocity
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Ever feel like there’s a new paid channel to test every week?
Ever wonder if it’s ever possible to be on top of it and not feel like you’re falling behind with testing such channels and that you’re not missing out on the next big channel?
As we revisit the evergreen principles for getting ahead of new paid ad channels, we also discuss channel attribution modelling and some more interesting paid ads you could consider now that you’ve got a few paid ads successes and failures under your belt.
Links Mentioned:
Episode 47
Episode 48
Episode 49
ChatGPT
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A very common question we get: how do we show the value of marketing.
It comes up all the time in house.
For those of you who have dabbled with agency life, you’ll know this is one that’s not far from conversations with clients either.
Well let’s talk about how to do it effectively for B2B businesses, so as not to hamper growth!
Check out how the 3 tiered approach works and help you with exactly that.
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Another email notification.
Another newsletter that quickly goes in the bin folder.
That’s what we all want to avoid when it comes to our own emails we send out!
So we’re talking about how to level up your EDMs to avoid that scenario.
And it’s pretty easy actually! A lot of the groundwork is already there.
In this episode we go through some helpful tips and a quick framework to help reset the mindset on EDMs to make your emails the ones people keep coming back to!
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Walk the walk!
We’re all about documenting our own journey in growing our B2B podcast and incubator, while we’re sharing the framework we’re using to do so.
The aim is to help you do the same!
This week, we’re covering how you can better leverage your data and tech stack to optimise your marketing practice.
We cover some common definitions before jumping into some common use cases and a key guiding principle you might be familiar with!
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Dream 100.
Remember that great concept we talked about all those episodes ago, way back in season 1?!
Well now it’s time to leverage that concept when making the most of affiliates and partnerships!
This week, we’ll tell you why it’s so powerful and when to look into it. As well that, we’ll give you a simple framework and process to go about getting these going.
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It’s all about 1% better a day.
Or is it?
Although we see the value of that work, even in our personal lives, we think you should be making bigger swings in B2B marketing to get the growth and scale you want.
Because chances are you don’t have the data in your growing B2B business to make the 1% worth the work.
HOWEVER.
If in applying the 80:20 principle, you determine it is worthwhile, then make sure to check out this episode where we go through how to go about doing things like CRO and A/B testing.
We cover why it’s important to build a process around such experimentation, how to approach it, where to get started including things to test or tools to use, and importantly ensuring you action the hard-earned learnings.
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All marketers should be thinking about their personal brands in 2023.
So we're reposting another special episode this week.
This week we had a special guest who personifies being helpful.
Not only does he have his own podcast helping thousands of people out there with their marketing careers, he’s also sharing all this on LinkedIn on a more than regular basis!
And it’s doing wonders for his own career and the growth of his employer!
So you can have your cake and eat it too!
Tune in for a great episode where we dive into how being helpful looks in practice. Here’s a few quick quotes from an amazing “helpful” interview:
A final bit of encouragement: we’re all regular people and you can do it too. So get started!
Links:
Mason Cosby On LinkedIn
The Marketing Ladder podcast
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Happy Holidays everyone!
This week, we're bringing you one of our favourite episodes to comfort you in your food coma.
In this bonus episode, we talk about some great copywriting tips for your helpful content, but aligned with the 5 stages of awareness your potential buyers go through.
This will help you ensure you’re being helpful along the way!
So tune in to this week’s episode for some great tips to get going on your “be helpful” content journey!
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We're taking a quick break for 'Be Better' to bring you George Coudounaris' interview from the Levels podcast.
It's not just because he loves the sound of his own voice...
... it's because he talks in-depth about:
Podcast hosted by Picup Productions.
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While George hit a big birthday and is sulking about the lack of attention such a big occasion garnered, Kevin didn’t even get an invite!
Thankfully reporting in B2B marketing shouldn’t cause you anywhere near as much drama!
This week, we’re continuing to deepdive into how to improve your reporting by looking at some common topics that come up when it comes to reporting on B2B marketing activities.
We talk about our approach to funnels, sales and marketing alignment, attribution and much more.
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We’re getting into the details of Be Better this week.
We’re starting with an important one to get right and continue to improve over time: Reporting.
If you’re wondering how to improve your reporting, or maybe feel like your marketing function is a little siloed within the business, then this and the following episode will help you!
We talk about how to approach optimising reporting and what to do specifically, now that your reporting has foundations and need to keep up with a growing business.
Links To Resources Mentioned:
Episode 27
Episode 44
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Breaking news! Kev’s not going to be around next year!
Well just not around physically in Australia for much of the year. As he makes a bit of a tour of Europe while working remotely.
But don’t worry, the show will go on!
Much like how this episode, we’re going onto Be Better! The fourth stage of the 5 Be’s framework.
It’s going to be a guest filled and very exciting season as we dive into all things optimisation for the whole B2B Marketing journey. Not just paid channels where the term often comes up.
Like everything else we’ve talked about, there’s a framework and approach to tackle this part of the B2B marketing journey.
So join us as we take a quick look at what’s in store this season!
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We’ve been talking for 60 odd shows!
All the way back in the first 2-3 episodes, we talked about why we started the podcast and how to get the most out of the format.
So now that we’ve wrapped up the details of the first 3 Be’s that form the foundation of the framework, we thought it’d be a good time to revisit why the podcast exists and do a quick overview of the whole framework.
Links:
The B2B Incubator
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It’s been a long, but great season.
We’ve reached the end. So here’s a wrap up episode to go through the highlights.
If you didn’t get a chance to follow ups through this season but still want to get the most out of it, be sure to check out this episode to give you a quick access guide into the content of the season!
Links:
Eps 40-44 (ABM Mini-Series)
Ep 55 (Rand Fishkin)
Ep 56 (Myles Madden)
Ep 49 (Where To Start With B2B Advertising)
Ep 53 (How To Get Started With Demand Generation)
Ep 48 (Choosing Your Right Ad Channels)
Ep 51 (The Best Way To Create Your Product Ads)
Ep 58 (Silvio Perez)
Ep 46 (Building A Feedback Loop To Your Ads)
Ep 50 (Creating vs Capturing Demand)
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The final analysis episode of the season! Does the framework always apply? What does it look like to make the correct adaptation to your brand? How deep do you need to go to really understand your dream customers?
These additional questions to the framework are what we’re hoping to show practical examples for during these analysis episodes.
We hope we can show, not tell!
Tune into this week’s episode for more!
Links: https://www.linkedin.com/company/paperturn-com/posts/?feedView=ads (Link Ad Screenshots)
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This week we’re talking with Andrei Zinkevich. He’s the co-founder of Fullfunnel.io. Fullfunnel helps B2B Tech and Service-based companies generate demand and land mid-market and enterprise sales-qualified opportunities with full-funnel account-based marketing. He takes us through some common B2B marketing mistakes that you will definitely be familiar with, and some awesome things you can do to save the pain and make the right calls in your B2B marketing!
Andrei has particular experience in the ABM stage and the steps leading up to ABM in marketing. So that’s why we’re stoked to have him on now to further contextualise how to get the most out of your ABM.
Links To Mentioned Resources: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/azinkevich_b2bmarketing-activity-6958038033577193472-xe-M?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop (Diagram of the full funnel approach) https://fullfunnel.aidaform.com/the-trenches-application (The Trenches Community)
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It’s the second instalment of analysis episodes for the season! This week we’re stacking up Dreamdata’s helpful ads against the competition.
Spoiler: they’re pretty pretty pretty good!
We think they hit the nail on the head when it comes to doing helpful content and getting the majority of it in the feed or ungated. They also do a smashing job talking to their potential dream customers about the pain points that matter to them. And in a format that’s easy to digest!
Another episode where we get into the weeds of what makes an ad good for demand generation and the 5 Be’s framework. We hope you get loads of value from these analysis chats!
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Links: Link Ad Screenshots
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Demand capture gets a bad rap. But we know how important it is. We’re just trying to change how it’s utilised for the better!
This week we’re joined by Silvio Perez, who shares his amazing and practical insights on another great use case for demand capture channels, scaling and getting the initial boost you need to build your demand creation engine.
In his role as Head of Product Innovation at Metadata.io and running AdConversion, he’s taking practical learnings from very real tests. He’s sharing that knowledge opening and giving us and you listeners the inside scoop of exactly what to do to get started.
There’s a ton of practical advice and value from this episode. Even as seasoned performance marketers, we’re still learning and swapping tips and tricks! Be sure to tune into this week’s episode for more!
Links To Mentioned Resources: https://www.linkedin.com/in/silvio-perez/ (Silvio Perez LinkedIn Profile) https://www.adconversion.com/ (adconversion.com)
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Analysis Episodes! Back by popular demand, this time we’re looking at what good Be Seen ads look like and how they stack up against those we’ve analysed previously! This week we’re looking Monday.com’s LinkedIn ads and how well they’re built on a solid Be Ready and Be Helpful foundation, as well as addressing the 5 stages of awareness.
We hope that this series will continue to give practical and helpful guidance on how to apply our framework to level up your B2B marketing!
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Links: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mondaydotcom/posts/?feedView=ads (Link Ad Screenshots)
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Theory doesn’t beat practical experience. But better than either is both! This week, we’re lucky enough to have Myles Madden on the show. He’s someone who’s been at the forefront of both. Learning from the best who led the demand generation movement in the states during his time at Refine Labs, and now executing inhouse what he’s learnt on the agency side.
We’ve learnt a lot from chatting with him and we certainly hope our listeners will gain a lot from hearing first hand what it’s like to implement the things we talk about every week on the podcast and with our 5 Be’s framework.
Some key highlights: Creating demand is creating desire, not some tactical changes. Have a story to help get buy in from the rest of the business. There’s a role for good agencies, not just in execution. Demand creation is not easy, but it’s what you have to do for long term success. Don’t be afraid to bring in creatives and give them the reins when they have the insights you have. Educate yourself outside of marketing. It will only make your marketing better!
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Our guest this week almost needs no introduction! Setting aside the fanboying from us, our guest share some real marketing wisdom that we’re sure everyone can benefit from! Rand Fishkin, probably well known to most of our listeners, is the founder of SparkToro - an audience research tool that we’ll get into more in the episode. He’s also the Cofounder of Moz, one of the world’s largest SEO companies. He and the team at SparkToro are doing amazing things to help the little guys when it comes to audience research and doing the type of marketing that just doesn’t work for the big boys in town. And that’s a good thing!
He generously share some of his view points, which we couldn’t agree more with here at The B2B Playbook.
Some key highlights: Paid channels’ incentive right now is attribution, not conversion! Demand generation is infuriatingly hard, if not impossible to measure. So that’s why most marketers don’t do it, and as a result it’s a huge opportunity because costs are low and inventory is high. Personas can be limiting, as they often don’t reflect the breadth of people within a collective group. They should be broad and diverse, but they’ll still allow you to understand where they get their information from and how the groups are made up. That type of personas are truly useful. When you change the fundamental question at the core of your marketing strategy, you open up the possibility for a more effective, long term and valuable relationship. When that transactional nature fades into the background and a value giving relationship is had, lots of things improve. Think of a tinder relationship vs meeting someone through friends. A ton to learn from classic marketing thinking, but the world is nuanced and requires a tailored approach. Value building events offline, particularly small ones, are immensely satisfying and rewarding.
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Links To Mentioned Resources: https://twitter.com/randfish (https://twitter.com/randfish) https://sparktoro.com/ (https://sparktoro.com/)
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Sometimes, it’s important to get back to your roots. That’s certainly a little journey we travelled on this episode on a personal level. But also what we aim to do in these recent episodes where we talk about some topical discussions that have been coming up in the B2B space, particularly on LinkedIn recently.
We use first principles from our 5 Be’s framework to look at one such topic this week:
Should You Hide Your Content Behind An Email Gate?
You’ll get our take and why. And more importantly the ability for you to figure this out for yourself and how to approach it without burning the house down!
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You could say we hustle pretty hard. But George is hustling so hard he’s got a job moonlighting as a chimney sweeper!
Not really, but for a lot of our listeners they are so poor it certainly feels that way!
If that applies to you, this episode will hopefully help you get on top of things a bit more! We’re talking about how a small team who’s time strapped can get started with demand generation this week.
We give you some practical tips on how to go about getting started without working 24/7, but also so you know you’re on the right track to actually generating demand, instead of just capturing it and waiting for the inevitable day when that demand runs out!
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Links To Mentioned Resources: https://theb2bincubator.com/ (The B2B Incubator)
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Kev’s got some spare time and is careful not to spend it doom scrolling on social media! Although not sure if his choice of activities to fill his time is much better! While it’s good to get off social media for your mental health, you can help improve that feed for those that do go on it!
This week we’re talking about how you can use paid ads to be helpful and approach it very differently to demand capture.
By bringing your helpful content to the feed, instead of asking people to leave the feed, amazing things can start to happen.
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Links To Mentioned Resources: https://theb2bplaybook.com/28-the-5-types-of-helpful-content-you-need-to-create-bonus-episode/ (5 Stages of Awareness Episode (Ep 28))
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Being Helpful… Sometimes it’s easier said than done! But despite the occasional $400 bill, we still stick to going long on being kind! This week, we take that same approach to product ads.
Although we give them a hard time, there’s still an important role for product ads to play. Just at the right time and place, and with the right approach.
And that’s what we’re talking about this week. We walk through what information you need and how to set up product ads to find the right spot to make their mark.
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Love is in the air in B2B land. Or at least in George-land, but we certainly love our little community of B2B marketers!
This week we’re deep diving into a key concept that often gets overlooked by the best of us:
Capturing vs Creating Demand.
However you slice it, capturing demand is just easier to do. And that’s exactly why creating demand is often overlooked but more important!
We talk about the difference and how to go about starting to create demand.
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Links To Mentioned Resources: https://theb2bplaybook.com/27-step-6-metrics-to-track-to-know-your-content-is-working/ (Episode 27 - Metrics To Track To Know Your Content Is Working)
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What channels work for B2B marketing? Well, it depends… As we’ve spoken about in the last few weeks, there’s a number of factors into deciding which are the right channels for your particular use case to amplify your helpful content.
But that doesn’t mean there are some common threads.
So this episode we’ll take you through some of those common channels that often work and should be considered when running B2B paid ads.
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We’ve been referencing it for the last few episodes… But the cat's out of the bag now! The B2B Incubator Program is about to go on its maiden run! The program is starting shortly with a group of 10 amazing B2B marketers.
We’ve set up a program with all the tools and templates to help B2B marketers and teams implement the 5 Be’s Framework in their businesses!
Taking the work that we do 1 on 1 with clients, we turned it into a more accessible cohort format that allows for group learning to strengthen the learning and implementation process and speed.
We’re really excited to see the great transformations the program will bring.
As that goes ahead, we’re also discussing how to pick the right ad channels for a business looking to Be Seen with paid advertising. A quick framework to help you think through this so you make the right choice and get bang for your buck, the precious resources you have as a B2B marketer.
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You wouldn’t believe how crazy Kevin can be sometimes… Clearing out photos and digital accounts on a regular basis is, according to George, the red flags to watch for! Be that as it may, it doesn’t always hurt to review things. Particularly when it’s a helpful framework! This week we’re discussing the framework for understanding ad channels, which we spoke about all the way back in season 1!
It’s an important step to take BEFORE jumping into getting your ads together. So make sure to come along as we talk about how to use this one framework to figure out any new or existing ad channel.
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It’s so important to practice what you preach. And that’s what we’re doing here at The B2B Playbook Podcast. We’re talking with our dream customers, you the listeners, each week. We take your awesome and helpful feedback that you generously share with us.
And we do everything we can to improve our content to address those points raised!
It’s that simple, and the same principle applies when it comes to running B2B ads!
This week, we give you a simple framework and process for turning your customer insights into great ads with great cut through. A feedback loop from your content to ads.
At the same time, this framework will hopefully save a few common headaches when it comes to setting up messaging in such ads!
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Have you ever had a hard time coordinating office access since returning from working from home? Shouldn’t this sort of thing be a thing of the past in the age of apps and subscriptions for everything? I mean, what can’t you do with a tap of your phone these days? Apparently getting into an office is one of them…
George has some theories about why there’s some weird gaps in technological advancements like this.
But one thing’s for sure, you don’t want your B2B marketing to be in such a gap!
This week, we’re talking about how you can run paid ads right for B2B businesses, as part of the Be Seen stage of our 5 Be’s Framework.
Don’t fall into the trap of reusing what you’re doing in the lower funnel channels like in B2C marketing!
We give you an easy framework to think about ads in B2B marketing.
And if you’ve been through the first few stages of the framework with us, this one will be a breeze!
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As you know listeners… George loves to give Kev a good ribbing now and then. This week though, the attention on George right off the bat. After a rather weak effort to start the show! While first impressions like this can be pretty important, it’s equally important to have a great ongoing impression, particularly when it comes to ABM! So this week, we’re talking you through what you need to do to ensure the sales team carries on your good work, how to continually improve your ABM approach, and even how to report on progress to the executive team. Because let’s be honest, they’re keeping the lights on for the whole ABM show!
Plenty of actionable things to do and look at. As always, nothing to be scared off and put off as a result!
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Ever wondered what old shows no longer running have to do with ABM? Not much as it turns out! While this show doesn’t have much of a segue, it doesn’t mean the content is not valuable! We’re discussing how you can go about activating those ABM accounts you’ve warmed up and personalised messages and experiences for with all your hard work!
And a particular favourite method of ours right now!
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All this talk about ABM approach, but what if you feel like striking up that conversation with your customer hit list with a cold call is too cold? Or what if you don’t know enough about them to start the ABM approach? Well that’s why we’re talking about a couple of “warm-up” plays this weak that sits perfectly within the ABM approach to get you to the spot where you’re ready to go full ABM!
Check out this episode for just a few great plays you can run to really get your prospects warmed up and to get your relationships off to a great start, without feeling like you’re being too salesy or worse making your potential clients feel like you’re being too salesy!
Links: https://fullfunnel.io/ (fullfunnel.io) https://www.uberflip.com/ (Uberflip)
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You know listeners, as part time podcasters and full time B2B marketers, we really don’t get outdoors much. We certainly enjoy our days in the sun, like last week when we met up to be part of Metigy’s podcast guest series.
But more importantly, when you’re getting out there in front of those lovely potential customers on your ABM hit list, you need to be careful about your positioning and messaging to make the most out of YOUR day in the sun!
So this episode we talk you through the process of how to make those interactions as powerful as possible with your ABM hit list by getting your UVP right and out there!
Also listeners, you may have heard of us talking about The B2B Incubator. This is a program we’ve put together to help you to level your B2B Marketing or train junior marketers to take over the running of demand generation in your business. We’re working on limited cohort intakes. Reach out to us on LinkedIn for more information!
Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randfishkin (Rand Fishkin) (CEO & Co-Founder of SparkToro, ex-Moz CEO & founder)
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We start this week’s episode with a kind word from a listener! We don’t do it as an ego stroke, we just want to sincerely thank all our wonderful listeners, particularly those like this one, who have written into us with feedback. Whether it’s positive or constructive, it’s all a big help for us. And we’re always so grateful for it. It’s why we keep doing what we do with the podcast!
So despite Kev’s monotone (he’s a bit shy with praise), we do sincerely thank you all and appreciate you all for joining us on the podcast journey!
This week we kick into what ABM entails.
We cover how you go about defining your ABM targets, and how to document them to use in future steps.
We answer all the practical questions about how to get the ABM work you’re doing on track and off to a great start!
Links: https://fullfunnel.io/ideal-customer-profile/ (Fullfunnel.io ICP template)
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Wondering what ABM is? …or maybe who it’s for, and how to get started?
What can it even do for you and your B2B business?
We give you all the answers and more in this episode, as we discuss the first part of our Be Seen section of our framework.
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Kev’s back from a rather quick trip and it’s a new season! We’re onto how you can amplify and accelerate the rate of growth of your B2B marketing and its impact.
It’s a quick and informative overview episode of what’s coming in season 3, as we ease into the discussion about “Be Seen”.
So make sure to tune in and get the latest on what’s coming up in a much anticipated season 3!
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This week’s interview is with Ryan Gibson, an outstanding customer interviews expert. When George said to me we had to have him on the podcast, I knew from his tone this would be a good one. And he didn’t disappoint. Nor did Ryan.
Ryan was so generous with his time and knowledge, which he shared with us as we chatted all things customer interviews.
There’s some great tips on how to make sure your qualitative data gathering process does the job it’s meant to, while giving you a solid foundation on which to build your B2B marketing strategy.
Just a quick snippet of some of the top points: Qualitative gives you the “why”. Quantitative only gives you the “what”. If you can figure out how and why people are buying, their buying journey, you can then start to influence those decisions. There’s no substitute for talking directly to customers and getting to know their decision making process. Set clear and limited objectives for each set of interviews and make sure you have rigour in your data collection. Only then can you get apples to apples qualitative data that’s comparable and actionable. Take action off the back of this data! Don’t let it sit on the shelf! And qualitative data allows marketers to be reborn, and excited about the work in marketing again!
Tune into this week’s episode for these and more!
Links: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-breakout-growth-podcast/id1483574236 (The Breakout Growth Podcast - SEan Ellis & Ethan Garr) TOFU, MOFU, BOFU = Top Of FUnnel, Middle Of FUnnel, and Bottom Of FUnnel https://jobs-to-be-done.com/jobs-to-be-done-a-framework-for-customer-needs-c883cbf61c90 (Jobs Be Done) https://www.aprildunford.com/ (April Dunford) https://ca.linkedin.com/in/ryan-paul-gibson?trk=author_mini-profile_title (Ryan Paul Gibson on LinkedIn)
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On this week’s episode, we’re doing our last analysis episode of helpful content. We started the mini-series in our podcast to put our concepts and frameworks to practice.
And this week is no different. We’re looking at what Kerika’s helpful content is doing well and what they could improve to increase the impact of their LinkedIn Ad and make it hit home harder!
This one’s an interesting one as we dive deeper on how smaller businesses like Kerika really need to hone in their helpful content for it to pay off!
Mentioned Resources: The 5 Stages Of Awareness - Eugene Schwartz
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This week’s analysis of helpful content has us chuckling to ourselves. When we gave the example of a cyber security business in our discussions on helpful content, we didn’t expect to find such a business putting out helpful content for us to analyse! Or at least not targeting us! But that’s exactly what we did find. So this week, we’re talking about OwnBackup’s helpful content on LinkedIn. We discuss why their detailed blog has a great topic and shows good understanding of their dream customers, but also leaves a few key areas for improvement. Links: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ownbackup_the-state-of-ransomware-preparedness-in-2022-activity-6919425514529062912-JY39?utm_source=linkedin_share&utm_medium=member_desktop_web (OwnBackup LinkedIn Post )
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This week we’re continuing to analyse helpful content examples! We’re dissecting the helpful content of Chili Piper this week, so you can see and understand why it’s a good piece of content that sits well in our “Be Helpful” stage of the 5 Be’s framework.
Our aim is to help you understand what’s good, what needs tweaking and how to recognise good content for yourself.
Chili Piper’s helpful content is a case study that’s being promoted as an ad on LinkedIn.
Chili Piper is a SaaS company that provides software which helps sales teams automatically schedule appointments with leads, instantly turning inbound leads into qualified meetings.
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As we get to the end of “Be Helpful”, we’re conscious that with so much talk about frameworks and concepts, it can be hard to see the forest from the trees. And also to recognise good, helpful content when you see it!
So for the next few episodes, we’re looking at and dissecting some examples of helpful content we see out there.
We help you understand what’s good, what needs tweaking and how to recognise good content for yourself.
We start this week with an analysis of one of Employment Hero’s promoted posts on LinkedIn.
Employment Hero is a SaaS company that provides software which helps with onboarding new employees, doing performance reviews, and managing HR templates and processes easily and online.
They’ve put out a helpful piece of content in the form of an Employee Wellness Survey Template.
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Well it’s another special and exciting interview on the B2B Playbook. This week we’re lucky enough to get the answers from an expert at her craft, Meryoli Arias! She and the Chili Piper team are so good at it, it feels like each time we engage with them online, we’re talking to people, not a business. Meryoli generously shares with us some great insights on how to build a feedback loop with an audience on social media, combine it with a wonderful process of engaging internal experts, and produce amazing content that serves the audience but makes them human in the B2B world at the same time!
Some key highlights: Start with company values with building brand personality. Don’t talk about yourself, talk about the general industry and how you add to that space! Create conversations. Don’t have a monologue. Actually listen to your audience. And the more organic it is the better. Empower your internal team to help you scale helpful content. Consistency is the most important thing. Be a cheerleader for your internal experts! Inject personality and make a brand feel like a person! This helps with the engagement that leads to social growth. Remember to be human, even in the B2B world. There’s just people on the other side! Don’t be boring! It’s good for the B2B industry!
Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meryoliarias/ (Meryoli Arias) https://www.chilipiper.com/ (Chili Piper)
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We got some swag! It’s been such a nice interaction with the Chili Piper team. Not in the least because they’ve very kindly sent us some of their awesome swag!
On the flip side we’ve got some constructive feedback on the podcast, which we’ve loved getting to help make the podcast better!
But it was helpful! And that’s what this season on the podcast has all been about!
And that’s what we’re talking about today. If you haven’t had a chance to check out each episode of this season, we go through a few key points from it. The Too Long, Didn’t Listen version of the season!
Links: https://theb2bplaybook.com/29-7-practical-tips-on-getting-experts-in-your-business-to-help-you-make-content/ (Ep 29: Getting Experts Bonus episode) https://theb2bplaybook.com/27-step-6-metrics-to-track-to-know-your-content-is-working/ (Ep 27: Metrics To Track To Know Your Content Is Working) https://theb2bplaybook.com/23-be-helpful-step-2-how-to-pick-the-format-channel-to-distribute-your-content/ (Ep 23: How To Pick The Format & Channel To Distribute Your Content) https://theb2bplaybook.com/24-be-helpful-step-3-scale-your-content-with-our-7-step-content-repurposing-framework/ (Ep 24: Scale Your Content With Our 7 Step Content Repurposing Framework) https://theb2bplaybook.com/25-be-helpful-step-4-how-to-constantly-improve-your-content-with-qualitative-data/ (Ep 25: How To Create A Feedback Loop To Make Your Content Better And Better) https://theb2bplaybook.com/28-the-5-types-of-helpful-content-you-need-to-create-bonus-episode/ (Ep 28: The 5 Types Of Helpful Content You Need To Create)
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Another special episode this week. And a timely one while we’re talking about being helpful!
This week we had a special guest who personifies being helpful.
Not only does he have his own podcast helping thousands of people out there with their marketing careers, he’s also sharing all this on LinkedIn on a more than regular basis!
And it’s doing wonders for his own career and the growth of his employer!
So you can have your cake and eat it too!
Tune in for a great episode where we dive into how being helpful looks in practice. Here’s a few quick quotes from an amazing “helpful” interview: “being bullish on kindness” Be “host of the party” “Learning in public” “Solve a periphery problem for your dream customers”
A final bit of encouragement: we’re all regular people and you can do it too. So get started!
Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/masoncosby/ (Mason Cosby) On LinkedIn https://www.spreaker.com/show/the-marketing-ladder (The Marketing Ladder podcast)
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It’s finally happened…one of us caught COVID! Thankfully the recovery was relatively swift. But it’s certainly no fun. So keep safe out there listeners!
During this down time, we’ve made an interesting discovery of material that helps us with marketing…
Picture books!
Helpful content comes in all different forms. Find out this week how you can get your experts onboard to help you create more of this type of content!
We know it’s a massive pain point, so we’ve dedicated a whole bonus episode just to talk about how you can get over this hurdle!
Tune in to this week’s podcast for 7 helpful tips to getting your experts onboard to create helpful content!
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You can hear the hesitation in George’s voice as he talks about his weekend plans… Thankfully there’s a lot less hesitation needed when you come to getting your helpful content going.
In this bonus episode, we talk about some great copywriting tips for your helpful content, but aligned with the 5 stages of awareness your potential buyers go through.
This will help you ensure you’re being helpful along the way!
So tune in to this week’s episode for some great tips to get going on your “be helpful” content journey!
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This week we started well. A surprise to both of us, George actually had a well executed segway into the topic of the episode.
Unsurprisingly he immediately derailed us into a discussion about his singing.
At least he realised about 5 minutes in and brought it back on topic!
This week we’re talking about what metrics to look at and report on to know your helpful content strategy is working.
It’s probably an episode that’s quite actionable, aside from being of immense interest to most of our listeners.
But we have a take on it that we think is a little different to most, which really gears you towards success!
Tune in to this week’s episode to find out what metrics should be tracked, which should be communicated, what success looks like, and importantly which ones to avoid!
Things Mentioned In The Show: Clearbit, 6Sense, Zoominfo Chili Piper, Phantombuster, Refine Labs, Gong
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While you might be repurposing your content already, you might still feel short on time and ability to scale. Well this week, we’re helping you think about how you can grow beyond your team of one or two. We talk about how to do this internally, externally, and then how to manage the whole “orchestra” once you’ve assembled the team!
All this to come right after we get a glimpse into George’s mind about how he’s looking to start on TikTok!
Safe to say he should probably keep his day job for now…
Things Mentioned In The Show:
Chili Piper, Refine Labs, Gong https://theb2bplaybook.com/17-are-you-ready-for-an-agency/ (Ep 17: If You’re Ready For An Agency) https://theb2bplaybook.com/template-content-scheduler/ (Content Scheduler Template) George Coudounaris (for spelling purposes!)
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What does Kevin’s wedding planning and George’s forehead have to do with B2B Marketing? To be honest not a lot, but that didn’t stop George segwaying it to our topic this week:
How to create a feedback loop to make your content better!
Not only will you find out how he managed that, but this episode will also talk about how to get that feedback loop going.
Specifically we’re talking about when and where to use qualitative and quantitative data.
Links To Mentioned Resources: https://www.tiktok.com/discover/todd-clouser (Todd Clouser On TikTok) https://www.simoahava.com/analytics/fire-tag-upon-scroll-depth-and-time-spent/ (Simo Ahava’s Post About Engagement Tracking) https://phantombuster.com/ (Phantombuster) https://www.shieldapp.ai/ (Shieldapp.ai) https://www.intentifydemand.com/ (Intentify) https://6sense.com/ (6sense)
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Sometimes the podcast game can feel a little like living in the past… Valentine's Day 2022 has come and gone, and we’re still talking about it! But the process we discuss this week should help you not live in the past and enjoy the present!
It’s our 7 Steps To Content Repurposing. With it, you can make sure you’re not creating content with every waking hour, just to keep up with the demand!
The 7 Steps are:
Step 1: pick what format your longer form, pillar content is going to be in (e.g. podcast) Step 2: pick 1 platform to distribute it on (e.g. LinkedIn). Repurpose into just one medium (e.g. podcast notes → text posts) Step 3: review and make changes to frequency of pillar content and repurposed content as necessary Step 4: make that process as efficient as possible & document it (e.g. put into a content calendar, who responsible for what) Step 5: once comfortable, repurpose again into another medium on the channel you have chosen (e.g. video podcast → video snippets for LinkedIn) Step 6: repeat steps 3-5 until you find the mediums and frequency that get you the most traction, and work best for the platform you’ve chosen. Step 7: move onto the next platform for distribution (e.g. TikTok, blog etc.). Repeat steps 1-6
Tune in for this week’s episode as we go through this and how you can scale your content production!
Links To Mentioned Resources: https://theb2bplaybook.com/template-content-scheduler/ (Content Calendar Template)
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After a big week (and weekend!) George is a little worse for wear. He’s working hard as usual getting the word out about how The 5 Be’s Framework can help B2B Marketers! But we’re backing him to bounce back strong. With some “courage and strength” from his tea! The topic of discussion in this week’s episode is certainly solid and hopefully very helpful! We’re discussing what you should consider when choosing a content format and channel(s). Surprise, surprise. Our old friend, the dream customers concept comes up again. Check out this week’s episode now! You can find more helpful content and resources at theb2bplaybook.com. Sign up to our newsletter for the latest news and summary of the best content.
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The theme of this episode is… “High Value Content, Low Production Value.”
High Value Content: Being Helpful (NOT being annoying!)
Low Production Value: Kevin’s crumpled white t-shirts he likes to record in!
Despite the visual impression of being a little rough around the edges, we talk about a pretty important framework and steps to developing content that is highly engaging.
And it comes back to the overarching principle of Being Helpful with it.
It’s so important to do this because that’s how you’ll build the trust needed in the relationships you need to establish with your audience.
Tune into this week’s episode for more!
Links To Mentioned Resources: https://contentmarketinginstitute.com/ (The Content Marketing Institute) - https://www.joepulizzi.com/ (Joe Pulizzi) SaaS Businesses: https://www.drift.com/ (Drift), https://www.alyce.com/ (Alyce), https://metadata.io/ (metadata.io) https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-walker-41597028 (Chris Walker at Refine Labs) https://davegerhardt.com/ (Dave Gerhardt) https://metigy.com/ (Metigy) https://www.simoahava.com/gtm-tips/manipulate-response-headers-server-side-google-tag-manager/ (Simo Ahava - “Manipulate Response Headers In Server-side Google Tag Manager” Article) https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddclouser (Todd Clouser from Refine Labs) https://www.timeout.com/brisbane/travel/six-terrific-road-trips-to-take-from-brisbane (Sixt Sponsored Road Trip Article In TimeOut)
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Well, how did we end up here? George is on TikTok!
…and it has some interesting thoughts about what George might be interested in…
While he’s navigating that minefield, we manage to give you a quick overview of everything that’s to come this season:
What can B2B marketers do to drive demand by being helpful? What’s involved in being helpful? Why does simply being helpful work? And how you can take that framework and apply it to the company you work in!
Tune in this week as we start to build the framework for getting your content working for you.
Links To Mentioned Resources: https://smallbusinessbigmarketing.com/the-boomerang-effect/ (The Boomerang Effect) - Tim Reid https://www.linkedin.com/posts/b2b-marketing-expert_b2bmarketing-demandgeneration-theb2bplaybook-activity-6888594580514721792-ttWV (Template Questions For Getting To Know Your Customers) https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-b2b-playbook/id1579809553 (Apple Podcast Reviews) - Scroll Down To “Ratings & Reviews”
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…And we’re back! Although the summer of George has not panned out as we hoped, there were big positives for us!
While it was one overshadowed by the ongoing pandemic, we hope you’ve had a good break and are ready to get back into getting the best out of your B2B marketing!
We start this year off discussing some key principles to focus on as we embark on 2022.
So tune in as we talk about what we’re digging into this year in B2B marketing!
Links To Mentioned Resources: http://theb2bplaybook.com (theb2bplaybook.com)
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The end of the year is upon us. We hope you’re all gearing up for a safe and fun festive season! We’ve covered a lot of ground this year.
As we take a look back at our first year of podcasting...
...we hit the main takeaway points so far, and share our favourites from the bunch.
If you don’t have much time, make sure to check out this week’s episode as we point you to the biggest tips and concepts for you to use in leveling up your B2B marketing!
We also share what we’ll be digging into next year, which we can’t wait to get into!
Tune in for all that and more in our last episode of the year.
Links To Mentioned Resources: https://theb2bplaybook.com/category/the-b2b-playbook-podcasts/ (Episodes Directory) https://savvycopy.com/ (Savvy Copy site)
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In our first interview ever, we had Kiarnii Tickle on the show! She gives a great window into what B2B marketing is all about, from challenges to how to show ROI. A dear friend of ours, Kiarnii is an exceptional marketer in general. She shows how some of the main concepts we’ve been talking about really deliver in her own experience at Altis Consulting.
Join us as we put it all together, seeing the theory in practice.
A special thanks to Kiarnii for joining us and her time, and Altis Consulting who are on an amazing B2B marketing journey!
Links: https://au.linkedin.com/in/kiarnii-tickle-a7567580 (Kiarnii’s LinkedIn) https://altis.com.au/ (Altis Consulting)
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All that seems like a lot of work, Kev and George. Can’t I just hire someone else to do it?!
You know our view about that now. Generally no, but there are parts you can! There’s also times when an agency is a better choice.
We give you a framework & set of questions to determine if you’re ready to engage an agency to get the best bang for your buck!
Books Mentioned https://www.amazon.com.au/Expert-Secrets-Underground-Playbook-Creating/dp/1401961061/ (Experts Secrets) - Russell Brunson https://smallbusinessbigmarketing.com/the-boomerang-effect/ (The Boomerang Effect) by Tim Reid https://theb2bplaybook.com/4-be-helpful-the-b2b-playbook-summary-of-stage-2/ (Episode 4 - Be Helpful)
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George has the blues… But it’s not all doom and gloom! He’s only learning the blues on the piano!
But what does driving for Uber have to do with your growing business?
We explain the relevance in this episode where we discuss data.
Why is data so important for SMEs?
Even for B2B SMEs?!
What data is actually important for SMEs?
How do you get the data you need?
Tune into this week’s episode to kick start your data journey for your business!
Links To Things Mentioned: Email George at george@wayves.com.au for more information about our PPC course. Google’s Data Tools: https://support.google.com/tagmanager/answer/6102821?hl=en (Google Tag Manager) https://marketingplatform.google.com/about/analytics/ (Google Analytics) https://search.google.com/search-console/about (Google Search Console)
https://www.hotjar.com/ (Hotjar) https://clarity.microsoft.com/ (Microsoft Clarity) Pixel Set Up Instructions For: https://business.linkedin.com/marketing-solutions/conversion-tracking (LinkedIn) https://en-gb.facebook.com/business/help/952192354843755?id=1205376682832142 (Facebook / Instagram) https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/6095821?hl=en-AU (Google Ads)
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Another round of Facebook outages is a timely reminder. Build Your Own Channel Of Direct Communication With Your Customers! ...and make sure you don’t say too many weird things on social media like when George was younger.
We’re only joking!
This week we’re talking about the roles that your website can play for your B2B business and one key theme to keep in mind as you go through and build, audit, or rebuild your business website.
Tune in for some great tips on this and whether we think it’s worth your while building your website yourself!
Links To Mentioned Resources: https://www.joepulizzi.com/ (Joe Pulizzi) https://savvycopy.com/ (Savvy Copy) https://www.searchenginejournal.com/ (Search Engine Journal) https://dripify.io/ (Dripify) https://theb2bplaybook.com/template-b2b-website/ (Website Template) Jimmy at https://digitalrecipe.com.au/ (Digital Recipe)
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Is Kevin really complaining about a free meal?! What car brand is or isn’t sponsoring our podcast?!
What things do you really need to set up for your business from day 1 of having your website live?!
You’ll find the answers to these and much more in this week’s episode.
Part 2 of “Building Basic Visibility Online” for your business sees Kevin and George cover how to decide which channels are the best for your business and how to start testing them as well.
By the way, we’re kidding about the car sponsor. :)
Things discussed during the episode: https://theb2bplaybook.com/9-defining-your-brand-the-b2b-playbook/ (Episode 9 - Defining Your Brand) Onsite things to work on: sitemap, robots.txt, title links & meta descriptions
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When Kevin signed on to do the editing for the podcast, he wasn’t expecting it to affect his relationship with his fiance. Fast forward a few months, and all he can hear is ums and uhs from his partner, as well as George and himself! But for the most part it is just about keeping the podcast on track with the editing! It’s another short episode packed with great frameworks and ideas on how to grow your business online. We’re covering why doing a great website and getting it seen online is two very separate things.
We also give you a few short questions to help you understand any online advertising channel, whether that’s Google, Facebook or TikTok!
Once you understand that, you’ll be able to make the most out of these channels.
Next week, we’ll even guide you through picking the right channels for your business! So be sure to tune into part 2 of building basic visibility online for your business!
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George is sharing tips to find love on dating apps. Or at least get some matches at all! Who knew the principles for finding your dream customers are so similar to those for finding love in the modern world of dating?!
It’s all about using what we talked about last episode (getting into the heads of your dream customers and speaking their language) to then find where they already are online and joining the conversation.
Before we got too sidetracked, we also dug deep into why the Dream 100 concept works so well. Why it’s so efficient for growing a business and developing relationships.
But it’s all well and good in theory. How you actually put it into practice is often another matter.
Well..
That’s something else we dig into! We share some of the easiest places to start finding your Dream 100.
And once you’ve found them, what do you do?
BE HELPFUL!
It may be skipping ahead a little to stage two of The 5 Be’s framework we talk about, but that’s it in a nutshell!
We hope you find something useful in this episode, which covers some concepts hugely influential to us!
Links to things discussed during the episode: https://www.amazon.com.au/Expert-Secrets-Underground-Playbook-Creating/dp/1401961061/ (Experts Secrets) - Russell Brunson https://smallbusinessbigmarketing.com/ (The Small Business Big Marketing Podcast) https://smallbusinessbigmarketing.com/the-boomerang-effect/ (The Boomerang Effect) by Tim Reid
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Kev’s not going on a picnic, even if it’s the only way he’s getting social contact during a pandemic. George tries to string together a segway from this to getting inside the heads of your customers.
While we might not be the best at segways, we do have a few good ideas about how to understand customers and making sure you’re heard.
Episode 11 stays in the Be Ready stage of our 5 Be’s. We talk about the 3 core markets products and services are selling into. Then we touch on understanding what your customers are thinking by looking at how they think about moving away from pain and towards pleasure.
A quick and zippy podcast episode to give you some basic frameworks to help you determine what your customers are thinking and if you’re talking the same language!
Please join us!
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Things should be sounding crispy this week! At least to us anyway! Kev’s been able to kick a nagging ear infection and George has a new microphone and headphone setup for recording. George is even adding a digital gripes segment!
We’re continuing the journey of getting the basics right for your B2B SME. This week look at how to define and document your dream customers.
It’s a crucial step that is often rushed. We help you get to the level of detail you need to build a solid foundation quickly with a few practical tips on what to look for and how to get it.
It’s a fun episode where the information comes thick and fast. So be sure to join us!
Links to things discussed during the episode: https://www.amazon.com.au/4-Hour-Work-Week-Escape-Anywhere/dp/0091929113/ (The 4 Hour Work Week) - by Tim Ferriss http://theb2bplaybook.com/template-defining-your-dream-customer/ (Dream Customer Avatar template available at theb2bplaybook.com)
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We’re looking at how to actually start building a powerful brand for your business in this week’s episode. But first, find out how Kev’s telling George subtly to zip it! Ah at least our lame jokes crack each other up :’) This week we start by talking about why a powerful brand and story around that brand is more important for B2B businesses than B2C. And also a few quick exercises and frameworks to guide you towards building such a brand.
Tune in for a few great exercises to get to an effective brand and business pitch!
Links to things discussed during the episode: https://www.amazon.com.au/Building-Story-Brand-Clarify-Customers/dp/0718033329 (Building A StoryBrand) - Donald Miller
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Kev has finally recovered from a rough week in the trenches with a double ear infection. Sadly it means hearing George’s voice again.. And just in time for us to round out the conversation on Be The Best, the final section and the end of our summary episodes of each stage of The B2B Playbook framework! It’s a great episode, packed with more tactics and hacks to get your B2B SME purring along! Links to things discussed during the episode: https://www.amazon.com.au/Expert-Secrets-Underground-Playbook-Creating/dp/1401961061/ (Experts Secrets) - Russell Brunson https://www.amazon.com.au/Blindsight-Mostly-Hidden-Marketing-Reshapes/dp/1950665062 (Blindsight) - Matt Johnson and Prince Ghuman https://www.amazon.com.au/Purple-Cow-Transform-Business-Remarkable/dp/014101640X/ (Purple Cow) - Seth Godin https://www.amazon.com.au/Myth-Revisited-Small-Businesses-About/dp/0887307280/ (The E Myth Revisited) - Michael Gerber https://www.amazon.com.au/4-Hour-Work-Week-Escape-Anywhere/dp/0091929113/ (The 4-Hour Work Week) - Tim Ferriss https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-b2b-playbook (The B2B Playbook LinkedIn Page) https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13980317/ (The B2B Marketing Club) - LinkedIn Group
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In this week’s episode, we explain why it’s all about entertaining George…I then grill him about what he really knows from a customer perspective! All jokes aside, we do cover some amazing ideas big players are using for success. Which you can use today too!
With so many great things to cover in the summary of the last stage of the 5 Be’s, we’ve had to split “Be The Best” at B2B Marketing in 2! So you can look forward to even more great ideas and learnings next week as well!
Links to things discussed during the episode: Webinar Funnel Template (slides) Native Platforms - https://www.taboola.com/ (Taboola), https://www.outbrain.com/ (Outbrain), https://about.ads.microsoft.com/en-au/solutions/microsoft-audience-network/microsoft-audience-ads (Microsoft Audience Ads)
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Keeping George in line is never easy! If he had his way, this episode would be more about fifty shades of grey and blindfolds than marketing. Thankfully we squeezed in a few tips about how to get the most bang for your buck out of your digital marketing for B2B businesses as well!
Links to things discussed during the episode: https://www.amazon.com.au/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996 (Good To Great) - by Jim Collins https://www.amazon.com.au/4-Hour-Work-Week-Escape-Anywhere/dp/0091929113/ (The 4 Hour Work Week) - by Tim Ferriss https://www.amazon.com.au/Tribes-We-need-you-lead/dp/0749939753/ (Tribes) - by Seth Godin Book https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-b2b-playbook (The B2B Playbook LinkedIn Page) https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13980317/ (The B2B Marketing Club) - LinkedIn Group
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We’re really getting into the flow now. George upgraded his fort and Kev’s on Salmon for dinner! And we’re also chatting about Stage 3: Be Seen. How to amplify your efforts and really leverage free and paid channels to get your helpful content out there and to the right people!
We’ll give you a simple way to look at online channels, so you know which to go after first!
Links to things discussed during the episode: https://askmethod.com/ (The Ask Method) - Ryan Levesque
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George got a new mic! Can you hear the difference? Is it better for your ears?! This week, we’re looking at how to “Be Helpful”. This is where you really start to show your expertise online! It could possibly be the most important step in growing your B2B business online. Afraid of putting trade secrets out there? Not sure if you have anything worthwhile to contribute to an already noisy space? We’ll help you with such questions!
The way we look at it, it should be one simple process to follow to make sure it’s easy for you to get consistent with your content output. This will do wonders for how much content you put out and how far your business will go.
Links to things discussed during the episode: https://contentmarketinginstitute.com/ (Content Marketing Institute) - Founded by Joe Pulizzi https://smallbusinessbigmarketing.com/the-boomerang-effect/ (The Boomerang Effect) by Tim Reid https://www.amazon.com.au/Tribes-We-need-you-lead-ebook/dp/B004L622IW/ (Tribes: We need you to lead us) by Seth Godin
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We’re finally starting to show some personality! It’s harder than you think when you’re just talking to a screen with your podcast co-host who’s internet is lagging! This week, we dive into what’s entailed in “Being Ready” to promote your B2B small and medium sized business successfully online.
We know you have questions like how do you build your brand, know your audience, dream 100 and how to get a website going as well as how to actually use that data everyone is talking about. Tune to hear the answers!
Links to things discussed during the episode: https://www.amazon.com/Start-Why-Leaders-Inspire-Everyone/dp/1591846447 (Start With Why By Simon Sinek) https://www.amazon.com.au/Building-Storybrand-Clarify-Message-Customers/dp/1400201837/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= (Building A Brand Story By Donald Miller) https://smallbusinessbigmarketing.com/ (The Small Business Big Marketing Podcast)
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Back for a second week? Thanks so much! We’re sure your time investment with our podcast will return you in spades in your business revenue!
This week we give you the mountain top view of the whole playbook for selling business to business online.
What’s The 5 Be’s? How to utilise that to grow your business online? How do you even do digital marketing, and for a B2B small business?
We’ll answer these questions and more in this episode!
We’re so excited to share our knowledge and hopefully start helping all your deserving B2B small businesses to grow like they deserve!
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Thanks for tuning into the first episode of The B2B Playbook. We (Kevin and George) introduce you to us, why and what The B2B Playbook is. And why we’re so excited to bring this to you! You can find transcripts, more helpful content and resources at http://theb2bplaybook.com (theb2bplaybook.com). Sign up to our newsletter for the latest news and summary of the best content. If you enjoy the podcast, would you kindly consider leaving a short review? It takes only a minute and helps make a big difference in getting those amazing guests! We also love getting your insights by reading the reviews!