Welcome to I'll Have What She's Podcasting! Join us - two tired feminist millennials as we bring all of the opinions you didn't ask for on the film and pop culture content we love. Come on, it will be good.
Just in time for Christmas, our second holiday film is Love Actually. We thought it was going to be a frustrating watch but actually Jackie loves it the more she talks about it (and drinks wine), and Louise....well Lou is mad.
We take each storyline in turn, agreeing that Colin should most likely get in the sea, Emma Thompson is a national treasure, and the 00s were a weird time when people (Mark) had terrible jumpers, Keira Knightley got bullied by the media for no reason we can fathom and everyone pretended that Martine McCutcheon isn't obviously super hot. And more!
Have a wonderful festive season, however you celebrate and thank you for listening to us this year!
Sorry this one is late gang! We hope it's worth the wait, and we think it is.
Batman Returns is a film about one woman's crusade to avenge herself, and then sometimes corrupt and hurt men do things. We are lifelong Selina Kyle stans so really we just needed some time together to discuss her at length and then some tangents did materialise.
We also wax about Oingo Boingo for a couple minutes which we seem to do a lot for some reason.
This episode is quite recappy so don't worry if you haven't seen it in a while (but also, you won't regret a rewatch)!
Listeners we interrupt our own editing of the Batman Returns episode to bring you this emergency episode from us on the SATC reboot, ...And Just Like That.
*spoilers for eps 1 and 2 abound*
There we were, just having a cute lil night to ourselves with friends, Lou has put on snacks, we're in our chicest casual wear just having a nice time and then we watched this, things happened, some nice, some BAD very BAD and we decided we needed to talk it out. So here is our most candid of takes, which may well change and mature with another viewing, and some space, and from definitely watching the rest of this series.
If you have thoughts, let us know on Twitter or Instagram, both @shespodcasting!
in this episode we have our first EVER guest! Welcome to our talented friend, who most certainly can have cookies, Mr Paul Barrie.
This is a fun one and we learn a LOT because studying is cool! Paul tells us about the hidden meanings and techniques used in Carrie, including Hitchcock references, split diopters and lots and lots of Farrah Fawcett spray. We also have some good stuff in here about sainthoods, 70s casting gossip and periods, periods, periods!
Paul Barrie is an RTS Scotland award-winning writer, producer & director of short films, documentaries, music videos and commercials.
You can find him at: Twitter: @paulbarriefilms Insta: @pbarrie1984 Website: www.vimeo.com/paulbarriefilms
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!
Some CWs first - suicide is weirdly a theme in this film so maybe skip the whole episode if this is something you don't want to hear about
Form a calming circle and lock up your virgins, it's everyone's favourite Halloween-cabaret-ensemble-film-starring-Queen-Bette Midler....HOCUS POCUS!
We love it, you love it, none of us need to talk about how old it is (JACKIE). In this film we discuss witches, virgins, the Marshalls, sibling love, and we have an existential crisis about whether there is a current day equivalent of dressing as Hanky-Panky era Madonna (please DM us if you know, we're still agonising over this). So come join us for a good time!
Dost thou comprehend?
Some handy-dandy references: Lots of BTS interviews and deleted scene facts from Disney Dave! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZIL9EghweY Some good chat from the cast on the 20th anniversary, including Doug Jones talking about having the live moths in his mouth at around 7:09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HtjleWUkUM Link to the website for the Revisionist History episodes on the Little Mermaid - do yourself a favour and get stuck into these! Top tip: don't read the description of part 3 before you listen, just enjoy it. https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/little-mermaid-part-1-the-golden-contract/ https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/little-mermaid-part-2-the-fairytale-twist/ https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/little-mermaid-part-3-honestly-ever-after/
IHWSP WHADDYA WANT!!?
JK, we missed you! We haven't done our shownotes yet but will put them up properly soon - in the meantime please message us on Twitter or Instagram at @ShesPodcasting and we can send you any references you're missing or just give you some chat.
Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen, our Aliens episode is up!
We got to record together for the first time EVER (yay Glasgow getting into level 2!) and the giddy excitement we got from that/champagne very much shows - in parallel with Alien and Aliens, this episode is much more chaotic and silly than its predecessor, but hopefully just as enjoyable.
Prepare for some deep diving into the character and casting of Vasquez, cat facts, an obsene amount of gushing over Hicks, more swearing than usual (blame the champers and Burke), some measured empathy for the xeno-queen and some two-way sass given that the Zoom gap has apparently been making us be more polite to each other.
AND MORE!
Readings: A cute article about watching Aliens with a bunch of 11 year olds - an interesting take and just a really sweet read https://www.rogerebert.com/mzs/watching-aliens-for-the-first-time-again-with-a-bunch-of-kids
Interview with Jenette Goldstein - some context for her experience as Vasquez (cool) and confirmation that she was, indeed, in brownface (very not cool) https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/interview-with-jenette-goldstein-1987/
This is a perfect film. Its structural perfection matched only by its hostility to our having nice dreams.
It's a scary one! Louise is fine with that, Jackie is restarting therapy and will be on the mend soon enough. We have gone through this ordeal a) because it's very good and b) so that we could bring you some sweet chat about it such as: can androids be misogynistic; why is everyone smoking in 2122; and would we run through a xeno-infested ship about to self-destruct so that we could save our pets? AND MORE!
We also reference a few other podcasts in this one and we recommend them to you below! The stunning and scintillating JVN learns about racist soap dispensers etc on "What is Techno-Chauvinism and Are We Relying Too Much on Unconscious Biased Systems" - Getting Curious podcast https://www.earwolf.com/episode/what-is-techno-chauvinism-and-are-we-relying-too-much-on-unconscious-biased-systems-with-meredith-broussard/
A super interesting insight into the experiences and views of the wonderful Yaphet Kotto, who sadly passed away in March 2021 on "Rare Interview with actor Yaphet Kotto" on Reel Talk with the Hollywood Kid https://reeltalkwiththehollywoodkidpodcast.captivate.fm/episode/rare-interview-with-actor-yaphet-kotto
And a super chat about the making of Alien with some really lovely words about the late great John Hurt "33 Alien" on The Cine-Files https://www.cine-files.net/34-star-trek-ii-the-wrath-of-khan-1
FINALLY, we forgot to tell you about this cool note showing that Yaphet Kotto was seriously in the running to be Captain Jean-Luc Picard in Star Trek TNG! Can you imagine? We love us some Patrick Stewart but think this would have been so cool. https://lettersofnote.com/2010/08/25/star-trekcasting/
Hubris! Hubris is what brings us together today. Hubris in the actions of the White Star Line managing director Bruce Ismay and Captain Smith going too fast through still waters without enough lifeboats, and Hubris in Louise and Jackie saying this would be their masterpiece without having completed a soundcheck before hitting record.
We know this is a long one, here are some beats we hit if you are short on time: We have Jacqueline's tween Leo obsession dotted throughout but introduced at 03:20; the insane but for a time common notion of Titanic as a guilty pleasure at 08:15; Louise's early-Covid Titanic rabbit hole at 10:45; We introduce our theses at 13:10; Murdoch controversy at 25:00; Kate Winslet body image at 32:08; Accountancy shoehorn at 42:17; the Irish mammy hot take at 44:48; WE SORT THE SOUND at 54:48; Why diamonds can be blue at 55:24; Jack as a real person or manic pixie dream boy at 01:02:34; we acknowledge that the Titanic was a ship and not a boat at 01:10:05; Gushing about the soundtrack at 01:13:50; poorly aged metaphor at 01:18:50; problematic faves JC and LD at 01:21:45; Louise and Jackie make daytrip plans at 01:26:49: s Cal actually not that bad? (NO) at 01:29:30; the brandy and cigars conversation at 01:37:50; sesh chat at 01:40:24: people who keep working when their jobs get really dangerous are hot at 01:43:00; excellent chef facts at 01:45:40; that frigging door at 01:48:04. and then more stuff but you're nearly done so just go with it.
And here are some sources for you, you nerd: The scale of loss for Southampton (we cut this section for time, but this is interesting and very sad) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-17535757 A Night To Remember by Walter Lord The alternate ending (OUR EYES!!!!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2tYHcXNwAk Discussion of the Mythbusters bloody door experiment with James Cameron: https://www.indiewire.com/2017/01/james-cameron-titanic-ending-mythbusters-adam-savage-jamie-hyneman-1201776143/
Don't get mad, get....actually we do get pretty mad in this one. What fun we had discussing the classic revenge romp, First Wives Club. CW: suicide and body image issues are raised in this episode. If you enjoy our podcast, we would love if you could leave us a review, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, follow us on social media and tell your friends - it's the best way for others to find us!
A lot comes up for us, including our theses on Elizabeth Berkley's career, the FWC as a proto-Sex and the City, how everyone is only anywhere as long as Bette Midler wants them to be, a half-baked rant about attitudes to botox, our tuppence on the Khloe Kardashian undoctored picture kerfuffle (did you hear about that? It wasn't very widely reported on), that Heather Locklear is much more than a nipple at a funeral and can we just be a bit nicer to Cher please, I'm looking at you the mid-90s!
We are totally buggin' to bring you this episode on Clueless, where we talk about all the Bettys, Barneys, Baldwins and Monets of Beverly Hills!
In this episode, we manage not to ruin anyone you wouldn't want ruined, AND it's something approaching a reasonable length. So we put that in the win column. We answer once and for all whether Josh and Cher's romance is problematic, discuss who the nicest boy in school is and have a kind of left field non sequitur about our mutual love of budgets. If you've enjoyed any episodes of our podcast so far, please consider leaving us a review, as well as liking, sharing, subscribing and plain old telling your friends.
Here are some fun reading materials if you're interested, which inspired our chat:
A good read about the ups and downs of the diverse character spectrum in the world of Bronson Alcott High School https://www.splicetoday.com/moving-pictures/clueless-is-an-assimilation-narrative
Clueless in the Neocolonial World Order by Professor Gayle Wald (it's very interesting and it's also a lot) http://www.asu.edu/courses/fms394/readings-biddinger/L12%20wald.cluelessneocolonial.pdf
Cool article giving some context about one of the films Christian and Cher watch on their special date https://www.brattleblog.brattlefilm.org/2016/12/16/spartacus-4571
This article (which we found after this episode was released) makes us feel bad for call Josh a murderer for making a terrible sandwich. Paul Rudd, from the bottom of our hearts, we are very very sorry <3 <3 <3 https://www.usmagazine.com/food/news/paul-rudd-reveals-scene-from-clueless-that-still-makes-him-cringe/
In this episode we delve into a LOT of people's treasured childhood classic, whether you loved the film or the book first.
Let's rip the band-aid off quickly - Westley doesn't come out super well, but almost everyone else does. What else, what else, we love Fezzik and Inigo, we give Buttercup as much credit as we can, and of course we have facts. We have facts about the best poisons, spurious bellows resuscitation methods and trivia, trivia, trivia, and opinions, opinions, opinions. We've relied more heavily on Wikipedia than we would normally like, but will probably try and do better next time.
Here you can read about Methridates a bit more if you like, seeing as Jackie did more of a rush job on her facts than usual: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridates_VI_Eupator
She can practically guarantee better facts next time, but these ones aren't half bad actually so give her a break.
Episode 4! The film which is responsible for our name. You can listen on all major podcast platforms any way you wish, but we recommend listening to it on a medium volume, whilst on a walk in half-sunshine, half-shade, wearing comfortable trainers, but not ones which are too clean in case you end up going through the park, and you're going to want a flat white but a third of the coffee should be decaf and the milk has to be oat milk, served extra hot, in a separate cup on the side. If they don't have oat milk then almond milk is fine but the coffee should be fully decaf and served with honey but if they have no oat milk or honey then just a black coffee, but if they don't have decaf then nothing.
Ji-Yeon Mary Yuh - Flowering in the Shadows https://www.northwestern.edu/magazine/northwestern/winter2002/features/flowering/index.htm
Jimmy Breslin - Pulitzer https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/jimmy-breslin
Richard Prince - What Journalist Jimmy Breslin Taught Us, Or Didn't, About Diversity https://journalisms.theroot.com/what-breslin-taught-us-or-didn-t-about-diversity-1793530419
Our third episode is here, finishing off our Star Wars coverage for now! Ok we know this one is of an Epic length, but a lot of it is very relevant and some of it is funny probably, and we also have some sweet sweet facts for you. You'll like it, come on!
We will be back in a fortnight with all our opinions a different classic film.
Some reference links for you:
Roger Ebert 1983 review https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/return-of-the-jedi-1983
The Hollywood Reporter review https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/star-wars-return-jedi-1983-752678
"The Princess Diarist" by Carrie Fisher
Pat Welsh <3 interview https://youtu.be/egCOK0TSA4Y
Original Jabba's Palace dance scene https://youtu.be/r7hYqgVMYzU
the new stupid one (not for pleasure, for comparison only) https://youtu.be/0hhBNQ62hEk
Tweet thread from @zeglian about Han Solo being excellent which we stand behind https://twitter.com/zeglian/status/1358134323375861761?s=19
Hello and welcome back! We are so glad you came back. This week we continue our deep dive into the holiest of trilogies with the Empire Strikes Back, the second instalment in the original set of Star Wars movies. This is our episode 2, so we are still a little baby newbie podcast. We will drop new epsiodes every two weeks on a Wednesday, meaning Empire has arrived on February 17th, and that we will conclude this dive into Star Wars on March 3rd with a discussion about Return of the Jedi. After that we will be leaving a galaxy far far away and moving onto other content, but the Force will be with us, always.
Finally, in this episode we touch on some issues around racism and representation in film. We have a bit of a chat about how white the Star Wars universe has been up until this point and do our best with the vocabulary we have to address what needs to be done better. However, if two neurotic, white, middle class women clumsily tying themselves in knots trying not to be racist isn't enough for you, and it shouldn't be, see below for a couple of suggestions for other podcasts which are better at talking about racism than we are. As our podcast grows, so do we - we commit to doing better, being better, recognising and challenging our own complicity in matters of inequality, injustice and privilege, and calling out oppressive, white supremacist bullshit whenever we see it. As Yoda says, "Do or do not, there is no try". Thank you for listening!
Specific podcast episodes which cover these issues better than us are:
Welcome to the very first episode of your new favourite film and pop culture podcast - I'll Have What She's Podcasting. Hosted by two tired, feminist millenials - Louise Oliver and Jackie Farmer - who give you opinions you didn't ask for about the films and TV shows they love.
We decided to start with one of our all time favourite and formative sets of films; the original Star Wars trilogy. Kicking off, of course, with the first in said trilogy - A New Hope (also known as Episode IV, depending on your outlook).
I'll Have What She's Podcasting is produced and edited by Chris Gorman and will be released fortnightly and on a Wednesday.
About the hosts:
Louise Oliver(she/her) is an actor, screenwriter and producer from Glasgow. She hopes that pub dogs come back into all of our lives soon but in the meantime her interests include pals, podcasting (see our sister podcast Persistent and Nasty), and developing her special brand of hot-intersectional-feminist-takes.
Jackie Farmer really has no business doing a podcast but here we are. She lives in Glasgow and has a normy job in accountancy but promises not to talk about it...much. She loves cats, peanut butter and flawed heroines.
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