The Adoption Experience: Recent Episodes

Lynn Grubb

Season 1 of the podcast is an audible version of my memoir, ”Hidden Identity.”

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The Adoptee Rights Coalition recently attended the National Conference of State Legislatures in Louisville, KY. Lynn gives an update about the issues surrounding adopted people obtaining their original birth certificates.

Follow our Facebook page for the future updates:

https://www.facebook.com/AdopteeRightsCoalition

Simone Biles credited adoption in a recent interview with Hoda where she stated, "If not for my parents and adoption, I would not be here today." Lynn discusses the controversary surrounding that and shares opinions surrounding kinship adoption as a form of family preservation.

Concerned United Birth Parents (CUB) Stand with Adoptees. Read their official statements here:

https://concernedunitedbirthparents.org/adoptee-rights

Sign up for the CUB Retreat in Kansas City, MO:

https://concernedunitedbirthparents.org/

Sign up for the Adoption Knowledge Affiliates (AKA) virtual conference:

https://www.adoptionknowledge.org/virtual-conference.html

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Ande and I discuss our deceased biological fathers and how we would love to learn more about them. If you happened to know one of our fathers, please email Lynn at theadoptedgenealogist@gmail.com.

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I was excited to spend time with Kristi on Mother's Day discussing our shared experiences surrounding our narcissistic adoptive mothers.  We cover how the adoption industry is a breeding ground for narcissism, how a therapist helped Kristi understand narcissism, going No Contact with her enmeshing narcissistic adoptive mother, and what modalities of healing have helped her heal and cope with what she refers to as a "life sentence." Disclaimer:  Only a qualified mental health professional can diagnose Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  This podcast and the series related to narcissism is based on the adopted adult determining that his/her parent has a narcissistic personality style.  It is understood that not all adoptive parents are narcissistic, or even that most are. Comments for Kristi or Lynn can be sent to theadoptedgenealogist@gmail.com Writing process https://courses.crappychildhoodfairy.com/login Dr. Ramani’s new book, “It’s Not You!” https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/710202/its-not-you-by-ramani-durvasula-phd/Photo credit: debyemm

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Having a narcissistic family system and being adopted is a double whammy. Double whammy: a twofold blow or setbackPhoto: my daughter and me Book recommendation: https://www.amazon.com/But-Its-Your-Family-Aftermath/dp/1642790990

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Ideas for low contact with your narcissistic adoptive mother.

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Introduction to a new series I am discussing on Narcissistic Adoptive Mothers. Book recommendation: “It’s Not You!”https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/710202/its-not-you-by-ramani-durvasula-phd/

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ASAC conference:https://www.adoptionandculture.org/conferenceUntangling Our Roots:https://righttoknow.us/communityevent/untangling-our-roots-summit-2024/Operation Fog Lift:https://open.substack.com/pub/therealadopteamoxie/p/adoption-new-york-city-fieriness?r=1pbwya&utm_medium=iosRelinquished book:https://www.relinquishedbook.com/Adoption Unfiltered book:https://adoptionunfiltered.com/The Last Daughter movie trailer:https://youtu.be/VApJQrN7hN0?si=kpVDMq_c42CAdb3ZThe Last Daughter book:https://www.textpublishing.com.au/books/the-last-daughterBlack Cake (Hulu) trailer:https://youtu.be/aHEF2D8yMes?si=p7OyvW9RwbZevdrtLifemark movie:https://lifemarkmovie.com/Little Bird (Amazon Prime):https://www.amazon.com/Little-Bird-Season-1/dp/B0CJK3KYYNSimon Benn Facebook Poll:https://www.facebook.com/share/p/TtedicYg56DWeWNh/?mibextid=WC7FNeConceiving Christian America (Embryo Adoption):Book:https://nyupress.org/9781479818594/conceiving-christian-americaIntro podcast with Ande at The Adoption Files:https://theadoptionfilescom.wordpress.com/2024/02/25/conceiving-christian-america-introducing-a-new-series-on-snowflake-adoption/Have an event you want discussed? Email Lynn @theadoptedgenealogist@gmail.com

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*Adoptee Tik Tok

*Legislative Summit 2023 in Indianapolis

  • Concerned United Birth Parents retreat 2023

*Celia Center adoption conference Nov 10, 11 2023

*Adoptee Rights 101

*Real ID complications (and passport update!)

*Adoptee Remembrance Day- 11/30/23

*National Adoption Awareness Month

Show Notes:

NAAP Adoption Happy Hour:

https://naapunited.org/adoption-happy-hour

Preorder the book: "Relinquished: The Politics of Adoption and the Privilege of American Motherhood."

https://www.amazon.com/Relinquished-Politics-Adoption-Privilege-Motherhood/dp/1250286778/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A50CHXAVR2JZ&keywords=relinquished%3A+The+politics+of+adoption&qid=1699013928&s=books&sprefix=relinquished+the+politics+of+adoption%2Cstripbooks%2C74&sr=1-1

Celia Center adoption conference:

https://celia-center-adoption-constellation.mn.co/plans/339536?bundle_token=9059baf90d541a7b894e633227303955&utm_source=manual%20noopener

Real ID Debaucle:

https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/the-burning-question-will-the-government-finally-decide/id1598023322?i=1000633287479

Adoptee Remembrance Day Virtual Candlelight Vigil (10/30/23)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uun76F2JQpE&ab_channel=UnravelingAdoption-podcastandotherresources

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Learn about the nonprofit that was started by first mothers who are helping other women not have to go through what they did when they lost their children to an un-regulated adoption industry.

Correction: Lisa Woolsey (I said her name wrong on the podcast) gave the training that I attended.

Learn about the Board of Directors of SOS here:

https://savingoursistersadoption.org/saving-our-sisters-about-us/boardofdirectors/

Family Preservation Project (Where Moms and Resources Meet):

https://thefamilypreservationproject.com/

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Pressure on UK government for formal apology re forced adoption:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/09/victims-of-forced-adoption-step-up-pressure-for-uk-government-apology

Adoption Trends (why a decline in adoption?)

Intersection of coercive control, the troubled teen industry (TTI) and adoption. More on TTI here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFLaEnQ2Dp0&ab_channel=60MinutesAustralia

H.R. 1475 - Hospital Adoption Education Act:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1475/text

NAAP Happy hour replay of Friday 6.2.23 Zoom presentation of "All You Have is Love":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_G1yXypDcI&t=889s&ab_channel=NationalAssociationofAdoptees%26Parents

Trailer of the documentary here (pledge a donation!):

https://seedandspark.com/fund/allyouhaveislove#story

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Our personal kinship adoption experience and subsequent open adoption; When God Calls you to adopt; risks of unlicensed adoption brokers; the Kamiya Mobley story (kidnapped child learns she is not the biological daughter of her "adoptive" mom when she is 18 years old).

Show Notes:

Risks of Unlicensed Adoption Brokers in Private Adoption:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onyzHGYKXOo&t=64s&ab_channel=AdoptionNetCle

When God Calls You to Adopt (by The Real Adoptee Moxie)

https://open.substack.com/pub/therealadopteamoxie/p/when-god-calls-you-to-adopt?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

The Kamiyah Mobley story:

https://www.hulu.com/series/beyond-the-headlines-the-kamiyah-mobley-story-with-robin-roberts-dd7e8f8f-7b48-4171-bdda-702251449f36

Link to my blog:

https://noapologiesforbeingme.blogspot.com/

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Adoptee Citizenship Act; Adult Adoption Scam; Ohio Kinship and Adoption Navigators (OhioKAN); Korean Court Rules Against Adoption Agency: North Dakota ICWA law; Attorneys on the Bus; Rootstech Genealogy Conference

Show notes:

Latest on Citizenship for Intercountry Adoptees:

https://adopteerightslaw.com/adoptee-citizenship-act-status/

OhioKAN (help with kinship and adoption resources)

https://ohiokan.jfs.ohio.gov/our-program/

Ohio Justice Bus:

https://www.ohiolegalhelp.org/blog-5-25-2021-ohio-justice-bus

Family Search (Rootstech Genealogy Conference):

https://www.familysearch.org/rootstech/

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Gun control; high school shooting threat; applying for a passport, (and reported problems with being adopted); Birth Mother’s Day, Mother’s Day; being adopted and menopause.

Show notes:

Blog about being adopted and getting a passport:

https://www.adoptionbirthmothers.com/us-adoptees-have-trouble-getting-passports-due-to-sealed-records-law/

Interview at The Adoption Files with Lorraine Dusky, author of "Hole in my Heart:"

https://open.spotify.com/episode/76vrspm8FcEkDZfyvxDCz7?si=24Z6P-ABRM-_iMbSWTIFUA

Research about mother's and daughter's age of menopause:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9243205/

BUY YOURSELF FLOWERS, LADIES!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7KNmW9a75Y&ab_channel=MileyCyrusVEVO

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The Lost Sons (the Paul Fronczak story), interview with Lorraine Dusky (author and journalist); Ohio Adoption Grant, Netherlands discontinues international adoption with U.S., Swatting in Ohio 3rd degree felony,

World Affair this weekend

https://governor.ohio.gov/media/news-and-media/governor-signs-executive-order-to-launch-adoption-grant-program-04072023

Swatting in Ohio

https://www.police1.com/legal/articles/swatting-now-a-felony-under-ohio-governors-new-law-7WgkegICV0SQoexk/

The Lost Sons (the Paul Fronczak story)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14030624/

The Netherlands discontinued doing adoption business with the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/world/europe/netherlands-international-adoptions.html#:~:text=the%20main%20story-,Netherlands%20Halts%20Adoptions%20From%20Abroad%20After%20Exposing%20Past%20Abuses,and%20government%20complicity%20until%201998.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/Intercountry-Adoption-News/the-netherlands--closed-intercountry-adoptions-between-the-nethe.html

Hole in my Heart (Lorraine Dusky)

https://www.amazon.com/Hole-My-Heart-Fault-Adoption-dp-1951479793/dp/1951479793/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

Ohio Adoption Grant Program

https://fosterandadopt.jfs.ohio.gov/adoption/grant

The Adoption Files

https://open.spotify.com/show/68DXjPUypeImBmFZr9OOpo

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One woman rock-n-roll show; being adopted at The World Affair; telling my mom I wanted to search for my birth mom; the B.I.T.E. model of authoritarian control; what the heck are Jesus Babies? Family preservation

Show Notes:

Trans Am by Lisa Stephen Friday:

https://www.transamshow.com/press

World Affair

https://www.aworldafair.org/

B.I.T.E. Model

https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

Jesus Babies (alternatives to adoption that support family preservation):

Informal temporary caregiver of mother and child

Power of Attorney to Grandparents or others

Legal Custody to Kin or Fictive Kin

Kinship Adoption

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Crazy Ohio weather; new Ohio phone law; the B.I.T.E. model as it relates to cults and adoption; National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL); educating about opening sealed original birth certificates of adoptees; Indian Child Welfare Act

The Adoption Files podcast with Ande Stanley and Lynn Grubb:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2KFmco76gY9iGisxCBFChR?si=JLcCNk7OSZGCCSJnrwpxMg

A Little Bit Culty podcast:

https://alittlebitculty.com/

The B.I.T.E. Model:

https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/

This Land podcast (updates on ICWA)

https://crooked.com/podcast/this-land-episode-1-the-case/

Books mentioned:

Sandy White Hawk:

https://shop.mnhs.org/products/a-child-of-the-indian-race

Gabrielle Glaser:

https://www.amazon.com/American-Baby-Mother-History-Adoption/dp/0735224684

National Conference of State Legislatures (Indianapolis 2023)

https://www.ncsl.org/

Right to Know:

https://righttoknow.us/

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Post-conference thoughts; Ohio politics (reproductive rights and death penalty); CASA guardian ad litem; working in law; adoption themed musical in the works; Easter lunch with Weezy and her high heels.

SHOW NOTES:

https://untanglingourroots.org/

For the Record, a new musical in production:

https://www.ftrmusical.com/

Ohio ballot issues:

https://www.ohiosos.gov/legislation-and-ballot-issues/ballot-board/

Lynn's blog about her reproductive journey:

https://noapologiesforbeingme.blogspot.com/2022/07/adopted-and-pro-choice-reproductive.html

A story about Lynn's 91-yr old mom:

https://www.facebook.com/lynn.grubb/posts/pfbid02xBKCzGM9YKQUqVwDZFKRiT2BWzVk1SiGZj9xUnSzTirjHg47q5ZyfBywiX19f3irl

Rachel Coyle: How Things Work at the Statehouse:

https://checkout.square.site/merchant/ML6J35ZXTZQQT/checkout/YB4FGW6A53NJ5RFANQLOYCUL

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A glimpse into my early years growing up sensitive and adopted.

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Hidden Identity: a memoir - In this Prologue, I am on a plane flying to meet my birth mother for the first time. 

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If you want to listen to my memoir, Hidden Identity, start here!

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