Rose Tinted Law The Podcast

Rose, how do you start a podcast? What did you do?

In this episode, I tell you. I answer five questions about starting a podcast asked by members of my community:

What time and resources do you need to commit to your podcast initially? And what about now that you do it more regularly?
How do we decide upon our target audience? There are so many possibilities that people can pursue with their time. How do we get their attention? Should that be our goal, or perhaps just to put out what we believe in and see what happens?
What tech do you use? Should we use video?
What post production do you do and how do you get it done? Do you do it yourself or outsource it? Do you have a background in recording or editing software?
What are your reflections now that you have been podcasting for a while? Has it been worth it? How do you measure success or a sense that you are using your time and resources productively?

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Did you enjoy this episode? Why don’t you send this episode to a friend? And how about you also leave me a review on Apple Podcasts?

You can connect, follow and me on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list: https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

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Fiona is a legal consultant helping lawyers make better use of tech tools. She is also the author of Tech Enabled Lawyer and Consultant and Tech Evangelist at McLay Legal Consulting. She is also someone whose name you will immediately recognise if you are a part of the Australian Legal Innovation and Technology community, where she has a super strong network.

Fiona spent 27 years of her legal career as a lawyer in both large and small firms. Then, in 2019 a shift happened, and she started steering her legal career towards consulting and technology.

In this episode, we explore that shift. We talk about how and why she opted out of the partnership track and how she embarked upon a very deliberate and brave path of career reinvention. We discuss:

The very sensible and conventional start to her legal career;
Why she decided law firm partnership was not for her;
How she embraced the “desert of reinvention” and claimed her space in the Australian legal tech ecosystem;
How she built her strong personal brand and thought leadership, including how she wrote her brilliant book, the Tech Enabled Lawyer;
Her thoughts on Chat GPT and what it is actually good for;
The definition of “tech evangelist” and “knowledge management” and ideas that anyone can implement in their own workplaces;
And much more.

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

You can find Fiona on Linked In here and check out McLay Legal Consulting at: https://www.mclaylegal.com/ and buy a copy of her brilliant Tech Enabled Lawyer at Booktopia here.

You can connect with Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

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You may recall Mollie Tregillis from episode eight. Mollie absolutely nailed the RTL brief and shared really candidly about her twisty career path from top tier legal practice into legal operations and starting her passion project.

We put a call out on social media to each of our communities to ask you what you wanted us to discuss. And today we answer them all. We get very personal and share what our personal and professional lives look like right now, as well as what is working well and what is not.

We also share our thoughts on:

Managing home life and work life
Tips on preparing for, and being on and then returning from parental leave
Boundaries between work + home
How to manage two parents having big jobs
Our tips for self care and the importance of prioritising ourselves for achieving any kind of balance or success
What having it all and doing it all looks like to each of us
And much more.

The timing of this podcast is very fortuitous. I have just had my second baby. Mollie and I are both in the thick of figuring it all out.

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

You can follow Mollie's journey at @mollie_treg on Instagram and on Linked In here.

And me - @rosetintedlaw and on Linked In - Rose Inglis and Rose Tinted Law

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DM me for a copy of the RTL Guide on* How To Create Your Unique Legal Career Strategy ***

This is our first 1% episode. Think of it as a 1-on-1 career coaching session between you + me. These 1% episodes are designed to help you figure out how you can carve out your unique place in our legal profession with confidence and purpose.

Our first topic is on How to Create Your Unique Legal Career Strategy. In this episode, I talk you through 6 steps that will guide you towards your own version of success that aligns your personal circumstances with your professional goals.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose xxx

p.s. Did you find this useful? I would love to hear from you.

My inbox and DMs are always open -

Email: rose@rosetintedlaw.com
Instagram: @rosetintedlaw
Linked In: Rose Inglis / Rose Tinted Law

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Alison Cusack is Australia'a most famous maritime lawyer. And in this episode we learn why.

Alison is absolutely fabulous. And the definition of someone who is boldly carving out their unique place in our legal profession. She has defied ALL the conventional legal career wisdom and advice to achieve her success.

She dropped out of Electrical Engineering at Melbourne University to study Law/Business at Victoria University. She then did a generalist ATO Graduate program, before she landed an inhouse legal role at global shipping company ANL.

After ANL, she wanted to gain private practice experience. But she obviously did not have it... And the law firms she applied to required it.

So what did she do?

She started her own law firm to get that private practice legal experience.

It was only meant to last 6 months before she got herself a "proper" law firm job. Five years later, Cusack & Co, and Alison Cusack are both thriving. She represents massive global, billion dollar clients and is consistently nominated for industry awards. International law firms are her “competition” and she markets herself via comics.

In this honest conversation Alison and I cover how she successfully navigated this very twisty, alternative legal career path, as well as:

Failure - who says we have failed?
Being liked vs being respected
Developing the skills to advocate for gender equality
Why we deserve more and how we can demand more
Law firm marketing and business development
Defying the odds and doing it on our own terms

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can connect with Alison

On Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alison-cusack/
On Instagram: @cusack_and_co
And Tik Tok: @theshippinglawyer
And via her website: https://www.cusackandco.com.au/

And me, Rose Inglis:

@rosetintedlaw on Instagram.
On Linked In here.
And via my website here: https://rosetintedlaw.com.au/

Thank you! Appreciate you!!

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In this episode of Rose Tinted Law The Podcast I sit down for an honest conversation with my dear mentor, Monica Hanson.

Monica is a Stanford Lecturer and the Co-Founder and Director of Applied Compassion Training™ (ACT) at the Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education in the Clinical Excellence and Research Center at Stanford School of Medicine.

I have been a student of Monica’s this year. And the work that I have undertaken shapes the future direction of RTL.

I am so excited to share this episode with you, where Monica and I discuss:

What is compassion
The difference between compassion and empathy
Understanding compassion a skill and a science
Suffering in the legal profession
Understanding our triggers
Skilful responses to triggers in our personal and professional lives
What is burnout actually is
Why I am sceptical of resilience
How compassion can help us evolve from burnout and resilience and into post traumatic growth
Applying psychological safety to ourselves
The future direction of RTL.

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

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Abbey Burns has just been promoted to Special Counsel in the Workplace Relations, Employment and Safety Team at Russell Kennedy. She is also on the Board of the Stella Prize, an annual award for excellence in Australian women’s literature.

And guess what? She has spent her career at the same firm and in the same team her whole legal career…. And she loves it. She has successfully navigated her way from Seasonal Clerk to Special Counsel and today she takes us behind the scenes of how she has navigated this career path so successfully.

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Soon I am going to launch a career coaching guide on "How to Create Your Unique Legal Career Strategy," as well as Monthly Mentoring emails. To be the first to know, please sign up to my mailing list at: https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

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My guest today is one inspirational lady. Lauren Cassimatis is a leading criminal lawyer who runs her own law firm and wears many many different hats. Lauren is:

Principal Lawyer and Director at Gallant Law ;
An accredited specialist in Criminal law;
College of Law Lecturer;
Founder and Chair of Connecting Lawyer Mums;
Mother;
Friend;
Role model;
Absolute ray of sunshine;

The list goes on…

In this honest conversation we discuss:

How she came to own and run her own criminal law firm
What she loves about criminal law, and how she manages dealing with tricky clients and matters
Balancing a successful legal career and parenthood
Why community and kindness are essential ingredients to a successful legal career
And much more.

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

Lauren Cassimatis can be contacted on Linked In ⁠here.⁠

To learn more about Connecting Lawyer Mums, check out:

⁠https://connectinglawyermums.com.au/⁠ and @connectinglawyermums on Instagram.

The inaugural Kind Lawyers Forum is being held in Canberra on 8 September 2023. To find out more (and buy tickets!) please visit:

⁠https://www.thekindlawyers.com/kind-lawyers-forum⁠

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/⁠

Linked In here: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ ⁠and ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/⁠ And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! ⁠https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

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Think of this episode as the Cliffs Notes for Rose Tinted Law The Podcast.

I provide you with 20 key takeaways, provide loads of examples and share personal anecdotes along the way.

If you are new to Rose Tinted Law, or need a good pep talk, or a fresh perspective on your legal career development, then this is one is for you.

I hope you enjoy this content and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose Inglis xxx

PLEASE rate / review / follow / subscribe to this podcast wherever you may be listening. I am really focused on growing my "small but engaged" audience.

And of course, you can follow RTL / Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/
Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/
And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

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Mel Scott is an absolute superstar. She is an award winning inhouse legal counsel, host of the wildly successful Counsel podcast and has a cult social media following via her @inhouselawyer accounts.

Nothing has been handed to Mel on a silver platter. She has had to be incredibly strategic and work bloody hard to achieve her legal career success. In this episode she takes us behind the scenes of how she reverse engineered all of her successes, dating right back to primary school, as well as how she manages to balance her passion projects with her full time job, how she continues to break the mould of what a “good lawyer” should be, and all of her advice for others who are seeking to boldly carve out their unique place in the legal profession, just like she has.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can connect with Mel on Linked In here and via Instagram and Tik Tok @theinhouselawyer. You can check out her awesome podcast, Counsel, here.

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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Noel Lim is Co-Founder and CEO and Co-Founder of Anika Legal. Incredibly, this is Noel’s first role out of university, and one that he has held for over 5 years.

How Noel has carved out this unique position is an incredible story of teamwork, passion and taking many, many small steps towards a much higher vision. And in this episode, he talks us through them all.

In this honest conversation we discuss:

His law school experience + the early stage the penny dropped he did not want to be a lawyer
How the effective altruism movement and how it has informed his career choices
The small steps that led to Anika Legal being transformed from a bright idea to a NFP with him as the CEO
Why investment in his personal development has been the best investment in his professional success
How he stays level headed and motivated in such a busy role
Meditation as a tool for self confidence and inner peace
His role as CEO and how this has evolved over time
Imposter syndrome, how he has overcome it to now own his role and place as CEO
Why tall poppy syndrome has no place in his world
His advice to others

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

Follow Noel (and engage with his posts - they are fab!) on Linked In here.

Anika Legal provides free legal advice to renters who have disputes against their landlords. You can check out their services here.

(HOT TIP - Anika offers fabulous volunteer opportunities for those interested in access to justice, legal technology and alternative legal careers)

To learn more about effective altruism, and consider how you can best use the 80,000 hours in your career, check out https://80000hours.org.

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/
Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/
And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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This episode is dedicated to all the legal innovators and entrepreneurs. Especially anyone who has dreams of starting a startup, or turning their passion project into a side hustle, or even making their side hustle their main hustle (the dream!).

Sarah Ouis is the Commercial Director of Contract Pod AI, and Founder of Law But How, a visual legal content design agency, where her mission is to kill the boredom of the legal industry.

In this episode, Sarah and I talk about all the entrepreneurial things. We discuss:

Who her clients are and how she finds them;
The importance of upskilling and investing in yourself so that you may reach your entrepreneurial dreams;
Whether she prescribes to a quality over quantity approach to online followers;
How to figure out what to post on Linked In + loads of examples to get you there;
Why online content creation is a long game, and how to build a legacy
The difference between thought leadership and business development
The benefits of playing a long game and building an online legacy
How to monetise your passion
Success, passion and hard work
Establishing priorities and boundaries as a Founder
Mistakes and failures she has made along the way

I hope you enjoy listening to this conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

To learn more about Sarah’s fascinatingly bold, unconventional and successful, legal career path, please check out Mel Scott’s (@theinhouselawyer) Counsel podcast: https://www.counselpodcast.com/episodes/10

You can connect with Sarah Ouis on:

Tik Tok - @designinglegal
Instagram - @designinglegal and @lawbuthow
Linked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-ouis-lawyeruk/

Sarah recommended three books by Daniel Priestly: Key person of Influence, Oversubscribed and Entrepreneur Revolution.

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/
Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/
And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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In today’s episode I sit down with Hannah Ferguson, the 24 yo Founder and CEO of Cheek Media. Cheek Media is a news commentary platform that sits at the intersection of social, political and feminist news. Prior to this, Hannah studied law, and was enjoying a really bright and fulfilling legal career.

When we sat down for this honest conversation in February 2023 Hannah was just a couple of months into a very exciting new career chapter. At the end of 2022 she made the bold decision to quit her sensible – and excellent – role as union representative – and packed up her life and moved from Brisbane to Sydney to go full time at Cheek Media, and in the depths of writing her first book. This is the sweet spot of where I think career development is at its most exciting and messy.

In the first part of this honest conversation, Hannah shares with us all through the steps that she has taken in her short but illustrious career to lead her to become Founder and CEO of Cheek Media. In the second part of our conversation we talk about Cheek Media.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

The books we discussed are Another Day in the Colony by Chelsea Watego, Talkin’ Up to the White Woman by Aileen Moreton-Robinson and Tell Me Again by Amy Thunig

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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Pepe Kish likes to do things differently. She is a multi-award winning lawyer and innovator. She has been practising family law for over a decade and advocates for a kinder, team-based approach to divorce. She also loves setting up collaborations and partnerships with other people, and this open mindset, informs her leadership style in truly innovative and exciting ways.

Her firm, Balance Family Law, offers accessible, fixed fee services to assist families navigate their separation and divorce peacefully so they can move forward and thrive.

Balance and Pepe have been acknowledged with 25 awards and accolades for our thoughtful approach! She is also on the board of Directors for Pacifica Congress, Co-Chair of Connecting Lawyer Mums and a committee member of the ACT Law Society’s ADR committee. She is also co-founder of the Kind Lawyers.

In this honest conversation, Pepe and I discuss:

Why and when she decided to study law
Her law school experience
When she decided to study family law
Why she did not thrive in an early career government role
How and why she started her own family law firm, Balance Family Law
Why a positive workplace culture is the strongest foundation for law firm success
Advocacy against bullying in the workplace
The “spectrum” of workplace bullying
Why collaboration and partnerships are the key to success
The Kind Lawyers movement transforming conflict from combat to collaboration
Her advice to others

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au
This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

You can follow Pepe on Linked In here and on Instagram @thekindlawyers and @balance_family_law

You can read Pepe’s article “It’s easier to stay silent about bullying in the law” is here.

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James D’Apice is a Director at Chamberlains Law Firm, where he specialises in Directors Disputes. He is also one of Australia’s most prolific legal content creators, highly skilled at marketing himself and his law firm across social media.

You may or may not know that James is from a dynasty of sorts. He is James D’Apice of Makinson D’Apice Lawyers, one of Australia’s oldest commercial law firms, and where he spent part of his career. He comes from a long line of commercial lawyers.

In this honest conversation James and I cover everything from:

Whether his decision to become a lawyer was destiny or choice
How his community radio and rap career provided him with a transferrable skillset that provided solid foundations to become a successful commercial litigator
Privilege and doing the work
Why we should all be feminists
Listening, changing your mind and living and learning
The BTS on how he manages his social media network across platforms (including how he deals with beef + backlash)
Why imposter syndrome is actually fuel for the fire
Whether he has ever been inspired by Harvey Specter
How he balances work, family and content creation
His 81:19 rule + advice to others

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

You can follow James:

T: twitter.com/CoffeeandaCase1

I: instagram.com/coffeeandacasenote

FB: facebook.com/CoffeeandaCaseNote

YT: youtube.com/channel/UCzo6MrU2QQmwtLNGJ8kaBYA

https://anchor.fm/coffeeandacasenote

This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

Big thanks to Clarence Workplaces for your ongoing support in making RTL come to life.

https://clarenceprofessionalgroup.com.au

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Theo Kapodistrias is a multi-award winning inhouse legal counsel, and the ultimate millennial, who enjoys a thriving portfolio career - from Legal and Commercial Manager at Tourism Tasmania, to public speaking and communication coach to Director at the Association of Corporate Counsel Australia and TedEx Hobart, Theo is a man of many roles and talents.

In this honest conversation we discuss:

Why he decided to study law + his law school experience
How he landed his first solicitor role at the University of Tasmania inhouse legal team and what work he actually did
What he does at Tourism Tasmania as Legal and Commercial Manager (including the Master Chef collaboration!)
How and why he has won SO many industry awards
His advice to others
All things public speaking (including an anecdote of my worst public speaking event in Melbourne + how I used it as motivation to improve my skills)
How to craft a message that matters
Why we should all be tall poppies and celebrate each other’s successes

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can learn more about Theo on Linked In here or at his website https://www.theokap.com.au

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/
Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

You can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

Big thanks to Clarence Workplaces for your ongoing support in making RTL come to life.

https://clarenceprofessionalgroup.com.au

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There is a special magic about Erika. She radiates creativity, positivity, individuality, confidence and her energy is infectious.

These are not words usually used to describe a hotshot lawyer now, are they?

Well.. she is that as well. After graduating with her bachelors at Georgetown University and her JD at University of Miami she joined the teaching faculty as a Lecturer in Law and a Director of LWOW. Today she is the Head of Legal Innovation and Design at Simmons Wavelength leading a global team while based in London and guest faculty at IE in Madrid.

In this honest conversation Erika and I discuss:

Why she decided to study law
The terrible career advice she received at law school and what she did next
How she navigated the transition from JD student to Lecturer in Law at University of Miami
Pioneering innovation in legal education at Law Without Walls and IE University (Spain)
What her role as Head of Legal Innovation and Design at Simmons Wavelength involves
The difference between luck and hard work
How she maintains her sense of self and individuality
Not being everyone’s ‘cup of tea’
The importance of feedback and constructive criticism from trusted advisors… and others…
Boundaries and why they are so hard, yet so important to carve out
Why sleep is our superpower
And so much more!

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can follow Erika on Linked In here.

Path of Love is the life-changing retreat Erika mentioned.

You can connect, follow and Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

And you can be the first to know of RTL events and new podcast episodes by signing up to my mailing list at my website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

Big thanks to Clarence Workplaces for your ongoing support in making RTL come to life.

https://clarenceprofessionalgroup.com.au

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Welcome back to RTL the Podcast!

CW - I talk about depression and anxiety and you may find this triggering.

If I had recorded this episode in late 2022 like I had planned, I would have called it “The Year that Broke Me” but now, with the benefit of hindsight and a bit of time and space - I am declaring 2022 “The Year that Made Me.”

In this honest conversation I share with you:

The sensible, saccharine 2022 wrap-up social media post that I could have simply shared and left at that;
My annual process of intention and goal setting;
Why and how 2022 was such a hectic year;
My experience with anxiety and depression;
The background context to various factors that led to a challenging 2022;
What happened in 2022; and
My intentions for 2023.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can get involved and support my work through the following ways:

→ Following on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

→ Connecting on Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

→ Signing up to my mailing list at my gorgeous new website here: https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

This episode was mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

The wise woman I referred to was Alison Larson Rice, conscious career and business coach and Founder of Offline. She hosts the brilliant Offline podcast (my all time fave) and shares her wisdom through Off-, a professional development space for the consciously ambitious. @alisonlarsonrice @getoffline

Dr Rosey, Traditional Chinese Medicine Practitioner, shares useful content on her Instagram page - @dr.rosey.chinesemedicine.

The book I recommended was ‘Into the Magic Shop’ by Dr James R. Doty, which you can purchase at Readings.

Brene Brown discusses discernment in depth in this episode of Unlocking Us on Living Into Our Values.

Thank you very much for Clarence Workplaces for making this episode possible - https://clarenceprofessionalgroup.com.au

And some resources in case you resonate with what I share in this episode:

https://www.beyondblue.org.au

https://www.lifeline.org.au

https://panda.org.au

The light in me, sees the light in you.

Much love,

Rose

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Kim Koelmeyer is the epitome of someone who is boldly carving out their unique place in our profession. She is ambitious, kind, interested and interesting and it has been an absolute pleasure to see Kim create her own niche in Legal Communications and proceed with her career journey according to her own values and goals.

Kim studied Law and Journalism at Deakin Law School, graduating in 2020.

While she loved the law, she also loved writing and storytelling, her experience in CLCs made her realise that there was an imperative for diverse voices and perspectives to be celebrated in the legal profession. So, she founded the hugely successful and impactful Law In Colour.

Kim pursued a Communications Graduate role with the State Government and she recently landed a dream, ideal role for her at Justice Connect as Communications Lead where all her passions and experiences are combined.

In this honest conversation, Kim and I discuss:

Her law school experience
Why missing out on seasonal clerkships and a legal graduate role was the best thing that ever happened to her
Why she started Law in Colour
How social media can be used to promote social justice
What she has learned through interviewing so many legal POC for LIC
Juggling PLT and full time work
How she does it all
Her advice to others

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation between friends and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

You can follow Kim on:

Instagram here: @lawincolour

Law in Colour website: https://www.lawincolour.com

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-koelmeyer-a0861b117/

The book Kim referred to was “Why I am No Longer Talking to White People about Race” by Reni Eddo Lodge, published by Bloomsberry Circus and available at Readings here. A long read article written by the same article on the same topic was published by The Guardian and can accessed here.

Cristabel Gekas’s RTL podcast, which also deep dives into seasonal clerkships and soul searching, is Episode 5.

You can connect with me, Rose Inglis on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

And via my gorgeous new website! https://rosetintedlaw.com.au

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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Maddison is an employment lawyer, diversity and inclusion advocate and public speaker.

As you will learn from our very honest conversation, Maddison is an absolute firecracker and trailblazer. She is hilarious, ambitious, outspoken and extremely community minded.

Maddy does not do anything by halves. She does not anything by the book. This includes her legal career.

Maddison studied law at Griffith University, completed a couple of clerkships but did not get a graduate offer.

She commenced her legal career at Griffith University's in-house legal departments’ inaugural graduate program. While she initially did general corporate work she gravitated towards employment law. When COVID hit, she was seconded to the employment law team where she was advising the university on its costs saving measures (i.e. mass redundancies and not renewing employment contracts).

Unfortunately she experienced the same fate as many of her colleagues and found herself without a job in the pandemic.

How she navigated this is nothing short of bold, brave and inspiring.

And where she has landed is nothing short of impressive.

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation about Maddison’s legal career and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities as to where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose

Please follow me on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

Follow Maddy for employment law updates and career inspiration on Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maddisonharrington/

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Mollie Tregillis is a woman at the top of her game. She is the Director of Legal Optimisation at Minter Ellison is the unofficial face of Legal Operations in Australia. I am sure most of you would have seen her speak at an event or come across her on Linked In or even had the pleasure of working with her.

However, you may not realise that it took Mollie a somewhat windy road to get to where she is today. From her seasonal clerkship experience (and the mistakes she made) to her initial years at Norton Rose, where she met her husband, to her windy path into legal operations to starting her passion project Hustle Bustle, we cover it all.

Mollie nailed the brief. This conversation is very honest and she candidly shares all the twists and turns and blood, sweat and tears that have gone into making her the successful woman, lawyer, director, leader, mother, wife, friend she is today.

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities about where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose Inglis

You can follow me on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

You can follow Mollie on:

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mollie-tregillis/

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/_hustle__bustle_/

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This episode is a little different as I am in the interviewee chair. I share my career journey right back from my high school years to today.

In this honest conversation I share with you:

How my high school years set me up for my future legal career
What I learned during my gap year
Why I decided to study Law/Arts
When I decided to pursue at Alternative Legal Career
How I have navigated the Alternative path since university days
How Alternative legal career options have expanded in the last 10 years
How my personal values have shaped my career ambition
My changing career goals
My reason for starting to Rose Tinted Law
My goals for Rose Tinted Law
Common misconceptions about lawyers
My three most rewarding career achievements
My career regrets
My advice for others who want to pursue their unique legal career path

Thank you Sinali Ratnayake from the MacRob Palladians and editor of the Kings Way to the High Way podcast for the opportunity to share my career journey.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose 

You can connect with me on -

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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Caralee Fontenele enrolled in law school in her late twenties, and then, when she graduated, she set up her own law firm. Her first hire was a Principal Solicitor to supervise her and she brought in plenty of work for them both. So bold. Today she owns and runs the successful Collective Family Law Group which has three offices in Queensland and The Scalable Business Lounge where she helps other law firm owners scale without burnout, sharing many of the lessons she has learned the hard way.

How she got here is fascinating. Caralee dropped out of high school when she was 16 and got married and had babies young in her early twenties. She spent the first part of her twenties dedicated to family life and supporting her husband’s business. She admits, that back then, she left the finances to her husband and did not take any responsibility for her career. However, receiving the raw end of their divorce settlement was a harsh wakeup call, so she enrolled in law school in her late twenties and turned her life around.

This honest conversation with Caralee is a pep talk on getting your shit together, taking responsibility for your finances and career and reassures us that it is never too late to start.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation between friends and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose :-)

You can like, follow, connect, support and befriend me via:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

You can connect with Caralee Fontenele via:

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caraleefontenele/

Instagram: @caralee.fontenele

The Scalable Business Lounge

The Collective Family Law Group

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Cristabel Gekas is a Melbourne Uni JD graduate and People and Operations Manager at XY Sense, a tech start up using smart sensors and AI powered analytics to create workplaces that people love.

I met Crista when she was a law student whose sights were firmly set on a top-tier legal career. She was working extremely hard to tick all the boxes to get there – She was leading The Legal Forecast, para-legal and interning, networking up a storm and studying extremely hard. However, things did not go according to her carefully thought-out plan.

Crista’s interest in legal tech led her to realise that she was much better suited to more entrepreneurial and dynamic environments. She then realised that she did not actually want to become a lawyer. She is now killing it in the technology start up space.

In this honest conversation Crista shares with us:

Her long term ambition to study law
All the hard work she put into the seasonal clerkship process
What happened when she did not get a graduate offer
How her interest in legal tech lead her to a career in technology
Why she loves start ups
Her advice for others

Crista gets super honest and vulnerable about her clerkship experience and her perspective is an absolute breath of air.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose :-)

Crista shares loads of helpful advice on Linked In, you can connect with her here.

You can connect with me on:

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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Anne Wong is Legal Transformation Leader at BHP and an absolute power house in the burgeoning legal operations industry.

I first met Anne when I was teaching at Deakin Law School, and where she was a penultimate year student. Even then, she was super clear on her ambition to pursue a career in legal operations and sought advice from me as to how to get there. In her relatively short, but super impressive legal career (she only qualified to practice in 2019) she has traversed various law firm roles to land inhouse at the BHP Legal Transformation team.

In this honest conversation Anne shares with us:

What it is like to be a first-generation lawyer
Her quest for “confident humility”
The importance of staying true to her values and goals
Behind the scenes of her accelerated career trajectory into legal operations
Her brilliant ‘week of enlightenment’
What she actually does on a day-to-day basis
Her decision to relinquish her practicing certificate
Her decision to move inhouse when her law firm career was excelling.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation between friends and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose :-)

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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Jacqueline Butler is one of my uni besties and a hot shot employment lawyer.

Jacqueline very fortunately found her passion for employment law in her graduate year and she has since worked both private practice and in-house.

In this honest conversation Jacqui shares with us:

Her employment law career journey (including the time she made the “wrong” decision)
The conscientious hard work that goes on behind the scenes to “have it all”
Readjusting career ambitions and priorities in light of motherhood
Whether there is such a thing as “whole life balance”
Her advice to others.

I have always admired how clear Jacqui has been in her goals and how conscientiously she works to achieve them.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation between friends and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose 

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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This episode is a juicy one. It was recorded at the end of Melbourne’s 1000th lockdown in 2021 at a time when we were particularly vulnerable, and it is the reason why I created this podcast.

Rachel Waters is very much a woman after my own heart, and indeed we have a lot in common.

Rachel studied Law/Arts at La Trobe Uni from 2007 – 2011, exactly the same as me. While we have mutual friends and knew of each other, we never had our own friendship.

Our paths crossed again last year at an industry event, and we immediately clicked. In catching up on what we had been doing the last 10 years we realised we had a lot in common. She had also lived and worked in London and packed a lot of different things into her career. She had been a judge’s associate, had gone to the Vic Bar, and was now in a policy role at the County Court.

And the other reason we immediately clicked at that event is that our conversation got really deep / really quickly.

She started telling me about the good, the bad, the highs and the lows and everything in between. She told me about how she achieved her dream of becoming a criminal barrister very early on in her career but then struggled when life at the Bar was different to how she had imagined. I had goosebumps and immediately knew that I was making new friend.

In this honest conversation Rachel shares with us:

Her unique career path;
Whether the legal industry is about what you know or who you know;
The art of creating your own luck;
What happens when you dream job is not exactly as perfect as you envisaged;
How to stay true to your unique career journey.

I hope you enjoy listening to this honest conversation and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose :-)

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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Welcome to Rose Tinted Law The Podcast!

RTL is a professional development platform for curious and open-minded legal professionals. This podcast is a space to have honest conversations about legal careers with people who are boldly carving out their unique place in our profession.

I am thrilled to introduce to you Robyn Barnard. Robyn has led the career most of us dreamt of in law school. Since graduating from Melbourne Law School over 10 years ago she has held a Teaching Fellowship at a law school in China, passed the New York Bar exam and held various refugee advocacy roles in the United States - including NYC and LA (so cool!). Today she is Senior Advocacy Counsel, Refugee Protection at Human Rights First in Washington DC.

Sitting down with Robyn for an honest conversation about her career is the natural starting point for this podcast. We have been best friends since high school and RTL offers a perspective on professional development and exists as a resource that I wish we had to help us on our unique career paths.

I hope you enjoy this honest conversation, and it helps open your eyes to the limitless possibilities of where your legal career may take you.

Your host,

Rose :-)

Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/rosetintedlaw/

Linked In here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roseinglis/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/rosetintedlaw/

Mixed by Julie Reynolds: https://www.audiolemonade.com

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It is fiiiiiinallyyyy happening, folks. I am launching a podcast!

I have recently been approached by so many people in my network - people I know IRL and over social media - seeking honest, authentic and useful career advice. In a profession that is so conservative and has such a stiff upper lip I realised that there was a real need for a platform where we can share our career journeys candidly and generously.

This podcast is a space to have honest conversations about legal careers with people who are boldly carving out their unique place in our profession.

I have some amazing guests lined up who I know you will love as much as I do.

Before I properly launch, I kindly ask that you do two things to help me spread the RTL word:

Please share this podcast with just one person in your network who you think might benefit from a fresh and authentic perspective on legal professional development.
Please like, subscribe and follow me on whichever platform you are listening to this from and follow me on my socials: @rosetintedlaw and on Linked In at Rose Inglis and Rose Tinted Law.

Thank you for your support.

Speak soon x

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