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Carol and Emily
Hello, {real} world! We're Carol and Emily, two 21 year olds navigating tech, school, relationships, and everything in between.
Between lectures, interviews, and meltdowns, these talks began in our 16x16 ft first year dorm at the University of Waterloo. We’ll be letting you in on our thoughts about hustle culture, forming relationships in university, and growing up Asian-Canadian.
We hope that we can provide a unique yet relatable perspective that brings you comfort in not knowing what’s ahead. Follow us as we say hello to the {real} world!
Remember the excitement of sending an MSN nudge, uploading your first IG post, or browsing Tumblr? When every interaction on the internet felt so magical, and simple?
Now that tech has become so embedded in our livelihoods, our feelings around tech and the industry we work in have become a lot more nuanced and complicated. In this episode, we answer some of the prompts from Figma’s blog “36 Qs to fall (back) in love with tech” to reignite that spark. We share stories behind our first online usernames, the first time we felt like tech opened a world of possibilities, and how we’re thinking about the industry today.
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For most of lives so far, we’ve looked forward to getting older and becoming an adult. Now that we’re ‘here’, that anticipation seems to be quickly replaced by anxiety and the fear of growing old (aka “FOGO”). In this episode, we chat through some of the pressures of growing up — Feelings of needing to accomplish as much as possible in our 20s, opportunity costs, and biological clocks. We also discuss why FOGO is so common in modern society and in contrast, all that we’re still looking forward to.
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Hey, it’s been a minute! 2024 has flown by and we can’t believe it’s already been a year since we graduated. Now that we’re technically no longer ‘new grads’ (sniffle), we talk about the process of settling into new cities, developing new hobbies, and how our new environment (and friends) has influenced us. We also chat about mindset shifts around our careers, what we miss about being a student, and what makes this phase of life so special!
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We often wish we had older siblings to help us navigate university as it’s a time filled with change, pressure, and expectations. In this special episode, we’re joined by Olivia and Jackie, two sophomores in college, to have a conversation about the challenges they’re currently dealing with. We talk about everything ranging from dealing with comparison, to balancing academics and recruiting, to feeling guilt in friendships.
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intros and experience so far in Waterloo Eng
(4:04) - Comparison, am I in the right major?
(9:18) - Prioritization and finding motivation
(14:19) - Time management
(22:48) - Recruiting and self-worth
(30:04) - Expectations in friendships, feeling guilt
(42:00) - Sharing your location and establishing boundaries
(50:47) - Pressure to be in a relationship
(56:58) - Mental health and therapy
(1:07:14) - Pursuing “unproductive” ambitions and judgements
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A month into the New Year, how are your resolutions doing?
Setting goals are important, but developing habits are often overlooked. While it’s hard to see the impacts of our everyday actions, building and preserving small habits can compound to have powerful long-term effects. In this episode, we reflect on the habits that were instrumental in getting us through our busy schedules as university/college students, as well as the ones we’ve recently picked up as new grads. We also touch on the habits we’re currently trying to dispel, in hopes of building an even healthier and more productive lifestyle 🌱.
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Happy belated new year ✨
2023 was a year full of important milestones, travel, and big life transitions for us. As an end of year ritual, we took some time to pause and reflect on all the experiences, feelings and challenges that shaped us over the past year. We reflect on everything from the bittersweet last couple months of studenthood, to the ambiguity of new grad, to holding more flexible identities.
Thanks to everyone who discovered, listened and supported us in 2023 🫶.
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Does distance really make the heart grow fonder? 💖
While not ideal, long-distance relationships have become common in this post-grad stage of our lives. In this episode, we’re joined by @filmwcolleen to talk about our experiences in LDRs. What are the most challenging parts? How have we been able to make it work so far? What would we tell someone who’s considering a long-distance relationship?
Tune in to find out!
Time stamps
(00:00) - Intro
(2:46) - Our Relationship History
(09:14) - Challenges of being long distance
(21:03) - Communication, rituals and visiting
(30:47) - Tips/advice for LDR
(37:17) - Perks of LDR
(46:23) - What we’ve learned about ourselves
(48:20) - What to consider when debating entering a LDR
(5):42) - Hot takes
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It’s hard to imagine a life without social media. In many ways, it serves as an important avenue for inspiration, content sharing, and staying connected. But at the same time, it can be anxiety-inducing, addicting, and leave us feel even lonelier than without. In this episode, we talk about our relationship with social media (from the days of MSN Messenger to now), and why we stayed off certain platforms. We also discuss the impacts of social media, both on a personal and societal level, and how we hope to be even more intentional with our usage.
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It’s been a hectic past few months as we’ve moved to new cities and started our first full time jobs. Big life transitions and changes often come with a mix of emotions, new experiences and unexpected challenges. Tune in to hear us talk about navigating ambiguity as a new grad, making friends in a new city, adjusting to full-time life, and new adult responsibilities.
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:05) - Feelings moving to a new city
(7:30) - Feeling lost/directionless after graduating
(18:17) - Making friends as an adult in a new city
(29:18) - Maintaining long-distance friendships
(31:40) - Learning to say no and FOMO
(34:51) - What full-time has been like
(39:28) - Work culture in SF
(44:51) - Adulting
(51:10) - Concluding thoughts
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As new grads, we know first-hand how stressful and challenging recruiting can be. This episode is meant to be a comprehensive guide to help those recruiting in tech for their first full-time jobs 👩💻!
We’ll be sharing our experiences recruiting for software engineering (thanks to our friend Lynn Kim), product design, and product management roles. From applying and interview prepping, to negotiating your offer and managing stress, we talk about every part of the process.
Resources mentioned can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hOEb3KtuO892gVMHySKnhwpWRKkal-mhrIHK65drlNo/edit
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro (2:49) - Application Timelines & Finding Opportunities (8:26) - Referrals and networking
(13:40) - Application Success Rates
(20:11) - Application Process Tips
(22:54) - Software Interview Process
(28:09) - Design Interview Process
(31:18) - Product Interview Process
(34:50) - Internship vs FT recruiting
(38:29) - Finding a support network
(41:35) - Interview Tips
(49:32) - Factors to consider when choosing a job
(55:59) - Negotiation
(1:03:58) - Managing stress and mental well-being
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In this episode, we catch up on what we’ve been up to in our last summer break before full-time. We talk about our eye-opening grad trip in Southeast Asia, what it was like backpacking and traveling with a big group of friends. We also chat about convocation, more travels, Emily’s summer job as a camp counsellor, and getting ready for our move to the States.
Our romantic relationships as adults are heavily influenced by our childhoods. We talk about attachment theory and how we repeat the relationship dynamics and patterns we experienced growing up. What are our attachment styles? Do we date people that remind us of our parents? What have our families taught us about love and relationships?
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Family is a foundational and important component of our lives. In this episode, we reflect and analyze how our upbringings and childhoods have shaped our personalities, perspectives, and core values today.
How have our relationships with our parents evolved as we’ve gotten older? Does birth order theory apply to us and our siblings? Do we ever wish our parents did things differently?
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The university/college experience…some say are the best, worst, or “peak” years of your life. As (soon-to-be) new grads, we recap what it was like studying Systems Design Engineering at the University of Waterloo. From first year imposter syndrome and navigating school during COVID, to figuring out our careers and fostering new relationships, we look back on all of the defining moments that shape who we are today.
Big shoutout to the SYDE department, our roommates, and all the amazing friends we made along the way that made our experience so great ❤️
Timestamps:
(01:47) - First year
(20:14) - Second year
(36:44) - Third year
(48:18) - Fourth year
(55:23) - Biggest takeaways
(1:05:00) - Closing thoughts/advice
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“So, how do you feel about graduating?” is a question we’ve been asked countless times in our final term of university - and it’s become really hard to answer in a few sentences. Lately, life feels like it’s been hurtling towards the finish line of graduation, and so we wanted to pause and talk about all the unexpected emotions that come with graduating. We reflect on our last couple months on campus, losing the “student” part of our identity, what we’re excited and nervous about for new grad, and saying goodbye to many friends and family.
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What is life like as a medical school student? From surviving a competitive undergrad to finding the right specialty, our friend Sonya Batth joins us in this episode to share her journey in becoming a doctor. As two people in the tech bubble, we found it fascinating to learn about what her pre-med experience was like, what her day-to-day is currently, and what her future in medicine may hold. What types of people make it to medical school? What are some unexpected realities of pursuing med? Is there a large emotional toll underneath it all? Tune in to find out!
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:32) - Why medicine?
(06:50) - Path to becoming a doctor
(15:00) - Types of people that get into med school
(26:00) - Day in a life of a med school student
(39:00) - Ethics, morals, and idolizing doctors
(43:30) - Debunking med student stereotypes
(51:00) - Work life balance, emotional toll & burnout
(01:05:00) - Sonya’s plans for the future
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“Will I ever find love or will I end up alone?” According to psychology, our 20s is a defining period where we may learn to form some of most intimate relationships or experience some of the greatest feelings of isolation and loneliness. In episode 25, we discuss this theory in-depth and reflect on our personal experiences. Carol shares her experience learning how to be intimate in her first serious romantic relationship and Emily talks about finding connection in friends after leaving a long-term relationship.
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We’re great at sharing and celebrating successes, but how often do we talk about failure? In this episode, we sit down with our friends Chris Nguyen and Justin Zhang to discuss the personal failures we’ve faced, how we’ve learned to cope with it, and how we’ve been able to use it as a tool for success. We talk about expectations, comparison, the cost of success and muse over questions like: Why is failure important? How does experiencing failure bring purpose and fulfillment into our lives? Tune in to hear our thoughts.
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In today’s episode, we talk about how our Asian Canadian identity has shaped us. We reflect on feelings of being different, share our “lunchbox” stories, and talk about how our relationship with our culture has evolved over time. Did we ever feel ashamed of being Asian? When did we start to appreciate and embrace our culture? How do we want to stay in touch with our roots? Tune in to find out.
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Happy New Year🥂! The start of a new year is always a hopeful time full of anticipation for what’s to come and goals/resolution setting. We talk about both what we’re excited about and what we’re dreading in 2023 - From our last term as students to grad trips to moving to new cities. We’ve historically not been the best at keeping up with New Year's Resolutions… So this year, we talk through our answers using some guiding prompts to help us determine what our focuses and goals are for the year.
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How is it already the end of the year 😩!? From traveling & studying abroad to summer internships to fourth year in Waterloo - this year was filled with new experiences, learnings and realizations. We reflect on the people, places, and themes that made 2022 the (best and worst - Emily) or (busiest and slowest - Carol) year.
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To celebrate our 20th episode, we share the story of how we met, the ups & downs in our friendship, and what ultimately led us to this podcast. We share our first impressions of each other, when we knew the other person was a good friend, and how our relationship has evolved along the way. We'll also take some time to reflect back on the goals and motivations we had a year ago for starting Hello, {real} world! and talk about future plans for the pod!
Whether this is your first episode or 20th, thank you for being here :)
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While discussion on romantic relationships is often more popular in media, we often overlook and take for granted relationships that have just as much influence and impact on our lives: friendships. What are red and green flags for a friend? Can you continue to be friends after feelings have been involved? Have you ever "broken up" with a friend? In this episode, we look back on some of our experiences building, maintaining, and sometimes having to let go of our friends.
(If you're a friend who's listening to this, thank you for being in our lives, this one is dedicated to y'all <3)
Heartbreak 💔 is never easy yet is a reality that most people will experience at least once in their lives. Fortunately, you can come out of it stronger and better. In this episode, Emily shares how she was able to process, heal, and ultimately move on after experiencing the loss of a 3 year relationship. That said, the phases of heartbreak can be universal to the feelings of grief, failure, and loss. Whether you’re going through one of the above or not, we hope this episode can help.
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This summer, we were fascinated by the stories about college from our American 🇺🇸 friends and how much that differed from the Canadian 🇨🇦 university experience. So we decided to invite two of them, Michael (from Rice University) and Larry (from Duke University) onto the podcast to give us a glimpse into their college lives including frat life, “tenting” for basketball game seats and switching majors three times.
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Hellooo it's been a hot minute since our last episode, so we wanted to do more of a catch-up on what’s been going on in our lives this summer ☀️! We talk what it's like working at Meta, living in Seattle and the Bay area, tech bro parties, new friendships, and breakups. We reflect on all the ups and downs that made this summer so special ❤️
Sit down with us as we dive into something we've never talked with each other about before: physical appearance.
In this episode, we talk about some of the insecurities we grew up with, how our relationship with body image and self esteem changed over time, as well as how we were able to become more comfortable and confident in our own skin.
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As we get into the swing of our summer internships (this time returning to the office), finding work-life balance has been on our minds. What does having a work-life balance look like? How do you achieve it? We share our thoughts on work-life balance, and how the meaning of it has evolved over time (ex. WFH vs. in person).
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It’s tea spilling time on this week’s episode 🍵 After many first dates and ninth wheel situations, Carol shares her past hesitancy towards dating and what made this different. Listen to the story behind a relationship that grew from the pandemic (and how Emily helped to move things along 👀).
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In this episode, Emily and our friend Vanessa share what it was like adjusting to life in Europe while they were studying in Madrid 🇪🇸 and working in Berlin 🇩🇪. From following strangers to techno raves under a bridge to getting yelled at for jaywalking, they share the cultural differences they experienced, how they were able to make new friends, and their biggest takeaways from living abroad.
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Hello from Europe! As work and study abroad opportunities open up again, we wanted to make an episode to help anyone thinking/planning on going abroad (or if you just want to hear interesting stories about the process) 🌎!
We’re joined by our friend Vanessa, who did an internship in Berlin Germany 🇩🇪 , along with Emily who’s currently studying in Madrid Spain 🇪🇸. In part 1, we’ll be going into everything you need to know to look for and prepare for abroad along! Here are some timestamps of specific info to help you out:
Vanessa working in Berlin 🇩🇪
5:40 - Looking for work abroad
16:19 - Fun with Visas/documentation
21:45 - House hunting
Emily studying in Madrid 🇪🇸
31:00 - Applying for exchange
36:00 - Logistics
39:20 - Funding and budgeting
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There’s a lot of perceptions about what it’s like working in tech: you have to be a programmer, there’s free food and offices with bean bag chairs, everyone is trying to start the next Facebook, etc.
After working various internships from start-ups to big tech as a SWE, designer and PM, we debunk some of the myths of what it’s like working in tech. We talk about our expectations going in, what it’s really like, as well as what we like and dislike about being in the industry.
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“Who am I?”, the age old question and the focus of countless coming-of-age stories.
In this episode, we tackle the concept of identity – what does it mean to us, how has it been shaped, and do we have a good grasp on our identity today?
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Hi there, don’t be a stranger 👋!
Sit down with us as we play the card game, “WE’RE NOT REALLY STRANGERS” to see how well we really know each other (and for you to get to know us better too 😳). This card game aims to deepen existing relationships and create new ones through a series of prompts, from “What is the hardest truth you had to face this year?” to “What am I most likely to get arrested for?”
Try it out yourself: bit.ly/hellorealworld-wnrs
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Hi, how’ve you been?
In this more laid-back and tangent-filled episode, Emily talks about her first month studying abroad in Spain and Carol shares what it’s been like going back to in-person school at Waterloo as well as her recent trip to NYC!
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Internships are an invaluable way to learn, explore, and gain experience in specific roles and industries. However, we know (very well) how stressful it can be looking for an internship. After having done it many times, we wanted to share some of our knowledge recruiting for roles in software engineering, design and product management. Here are some timestamps to help you out:
7:33 - Overview
8:52 - Applying for jobs and recruitment timelines
15:44 - Resumes and portfolios
28:44 - Prepping for interviews
54:27 - General tips
Good luck on your job search, we’re rooting for you :)
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Dedicated to the month of love, in this episode we get serious about relationships. Joined by some special guests, our lovely friends (and roomies) Kat and Lynn, we share our experiences with dating, from looking for a partner to maintaining a healthy relationship. How do you know when you’re ready for a relationship? Do we believe in soulmates? How do we resolve conflicts in our relationships? Tune in to find out.
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Teens vs. twenties, what's the difference?
In media, a lot of people talk about the differences between twenties and thirties. But as 21 year olds, we’ve also recognized the many changes that happened comparing our teen years to our twenties. In part II of this series, we talk about how we ourselves have grown and changed as people as we learn to become more independent, find who we are, and our evolving perspectives on the world.
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Teens vs. twenties, what’s the difference?
In media, a lot of people talk about the differences between twenties and thirties. But as 21 year olds, we’ve also recognized the many changes that happened comparing our teen years to our twenties. In part 1 of this series, we talk about the changes in our views and experiences with the world around us, friendships, romantic relationships, and our relationships with family 🤝
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Some people say that 2020 was the year for absorbing, consuming, and planning, while 2021 was the year for doing. In this episode, we take some time to look back on the highlights (and lowlights) that shaped our year 💌
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As 20-something year olds, school and career play a big role in our identities. In today’s episode, we’ll be talking about why we chose to study engineering, our journey in the tech industry so far, and our current roles as a designer and product manager.
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Hello, {real} world! We're Carol and Emily. In this podcast, we talk about our journey as two 21 year olds navigating tech, school, relationships, and everything in between.