Here we will make talking about dying and death as easy as sipping tea with a friend. We will be discussing how to share our thoughts about death: our wishes, fears, and desires. Let's discuss how to start conversations and share our sweet and bittersweet stories as we learn about having a Good Death.
Once you acknowledge you will die someday, it can impact your daily life. Choices you make may be different in light of accepting that your life will end. Consider preparing for a trip. You may make airplane purchases, hotel reservations, and put together the clothing you want to bring along. I am not going to say I prepare for everything but, in most things humans undertake, there is some planning and preparation. Preparing for our death can bring peace of mind and even comfort. What about preparing our family for our death? Some terrific conversations can be undertaken and relationships mended or strengthened.
What does dying your way mean to you?
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I am happy to introduce you to John. His experiences with those at the end of life as well as families and staff who support them are inspiring. His immense compassion and wisdom makes me want to chat with him all day. He will share terrific stories and insights.
3:48 - Pain isn't only medical
34:00 Suicide is mentioned
54:00 Hope of tomorrow
103:40 Caregiver fatigue
Book - "Remember Me, End of of Life Stories Through the Eyes of a Hospice Chaplain"
Book - "Delayed Honor"
Book in progress--Caregiver Guide
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I have received fabulous feedback about Ken. I am so glad we were able to talk as much as we did so that you can hear more of his thoughts on dying and death.
11:00 "I'm gonna die someday so I don't think I want to spend my time doing that"
13:30 "Acceptance that we will die is a 'ticket to life'.
26:10 Last ice cream.
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A care home employee mentioned to me that she asks new clients "Who is Your Village?" Wow, what an eye opener for me!
I have family, friends, coworkers, etc. When it comes to my time of need, Who is My Village? Who is there to keep an eye out for me, answer a call for help, or even give me a ride?
If you've realized you have a village--Good for you! However, is there someone you know without a village? Do you need to be their village? Can you be that role for someone, even if you don't think of them as a friend?
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Caution: Suicide and alcoholism/addiction are mentioned in this episode.
Ken is a man who gripped me right away. His energy and thought processes are such as I had not encountered previously. We enjoyed talking together so much I divided the episode into two parts. This is Part One.
12:53 Ken paraphrases an important message from a distinguished author and claims it as his way of life.
15:33 If I'm going to live, this is my chance, or "ticket to life".
https://www.nightingale.com/
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My dear friend Nan died too young. She was getting her life on a safer track only to be struck down by an unexpected work injury. We weren't always friends, but the statement above changed it all, for the better.
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Nicole is the Bereavement Coordinator for Chaplaincy Hospice. She explains the services offered, community outreach, and support for families. We covered so much in this interview. Take a listen.
22:00 Who can utilize Bereavement Services?
39:30 Normalize death
61:06 Contact Tri Cities Chaplaincy and Cork's Place 509-783-7416 (ext 3006)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/98651688-where-did-benjamin-go
https://tccbestlife.org
https://headsuptc.org
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Hello! During my time off I have continued learning, and the learning included the benefits of reflection. Not rumination - Reflection. Reflecting on experiences or conversations can spark an idea or emotion. These reflections may propel you forward. They could teach you a different way of thinking or behaving. They can also open a window that had long been closed. Listen to my reflection about my dear friend Nan.
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After a break since July, I am happy to say I have made adjustments in my life and I want to continue our death conversations. I have an interview coming up I know you'll enjoy. This is what I want to do. I want to share with you all the things I hear about dying and death. Can we talk?
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I am not saying goodbye today. I am saying so long for now. I didn't realize how quickly this day would arrive but here I am. Please reach out to me through my email or Facebook or LinkedIn. I'll be around in one form or another. Pausing feels right. I hope you understand.
Have a question or topic you'd like to explore? I'm still here....
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Boy, what a tough few days I have had. There has been a lot of emotion churning inside me. I'll let you listen, but here are some key points in my mind that I want to get across to you:
1. We hope to always have our memories, and therefore we buy things to memorialize special occasions or events, hoping that somehow the stuff will allow us to recapture the feelings from that event or occasion - to take us back there, even for just a moment.
2. It's Our life, and it's Our stuff. It isn't Their life and it's not Their stuff. They will have plenty of their own stuff.
3. Go do the thing. Don't wait your whole life and then not be able to enjoy the fruit of your labor.
4. Guard your tongue before you speak so you don't have to eat the words later.
Lastly: Our memories are something we keep and give away at the same time, in the stories we share with others and the mementos we've collected along the way.
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They're coming. We can't stop them. Change happens. How will you face change?
Winds of Change, song by The Scorpions
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This is not a repeat episode but a repeat topic with a bonus - more updated information for us to consider as we age and face our end of life.
While We're Still Here Episode dated 09/20/2023 "Are You Living Your Last Decade? How Would You Know That?"
https://peterattiamd.com/start-here/
https://www.selfauthoring.com/
https://chriskresser.com/
988lifeline.org
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Snail mail that is. For years now, email has replaced old-fashioned "snail mail", which itself has been shadowed by the faster communication options such as texting and so on. Nonetheless, sometimes, receiving a written letter brings familiar memories.
Listen to how Postal Service for the Dead helps us stay connected to ones we've lost.
https://sleepysue.studio/ look up workshops
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Sleepy Sue Studio
P.O. Box 31412
Los Angeles, CA 90031
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I'm learning that I keep learning everyday. I'm sharing some of that learning today and hope to inspire you all to grab learning where you can get it. I learn professionally, of course. In my life and relationships, I appreciate the opportunities to learn because, positive or negative, there are nuggets for me to take into new situations and old ones.
https://fivewishes.org
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Here are some facts that I consider to be important reminders that we have work to do before we die.
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Dr. Mandar Kataria thinks so, and many professionals agree. In the grief space, being able to find my laugh again was a big step forward to healing. Recently in a webinar, a doula mentioned laughter yoga. I marked that in my notes. I looked it up and signed up for an online class. How was it? Listen in...
https://laughteryoga.org
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Susan is a woman you won't forget. Here's her story....BUT THERE IS A WARNING:
Adult topics like suicide are mentioned. Please call 988 if you or someone you share this with may be struggling and want to speak with someone who can help.
This episode has so many nuggets I don't want you to miss any of them. Here is a list of nuggets I hope you can find in this episode:
mamma bear, despair, invisible losses, laughter, loneliness, dating, button, little reminders, gratitude, being saved and being a savior, determination, trusted friend, tenacity, love, hope.
https://griefrecoverymethod.com
https://bkbooks.com/collections/booklets/products/gone-from-my-sight-the-dying-experience?variant=36961181171868
https://988lifeline.org
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I found this piece and wanted to share it with you all. Many of us are familiar with the stages of grief Dr. Kubler Ross established for terminally ill patients. What you'll hear in this episode may validate some feelings around grief.
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Standby for tears today.
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This won't be a deep dive into tissue and organ donation, more like a comparison to whole body donation. I have also included some facts that I believe are important and crucial to anyone considering this method of body disposition. Important links are included below:
Eye donation:
https://www.eyedonation.org/
https://donatelife.net/donation/organs/cornea-donation/
https://www.aao.org/eye-health/treatments/donating-your-corneas-other-eye-tissue
https://www.life-source.org/latest/what-is-eye-donation/
Tissue donation:
https://unitedtissue.org/whole-body-donation/pledge-yourself/
https://donatelife.net/donation/organs/tissue-donation/
Organ donation:
https://www.organdonor.gov/
https://www.rush.edu/news/9-organ-donation-facts
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Yes! I hadn't considered this as a green option for body disposition, but it checks the boxes so far as I have learned.
https://www.ohsu.edu/body-donation
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There are companies turning our loved ones' bodies into soil. Check it out.
https://earthfuneral.com
https://recompose.life
https://returnhome.com
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Many people I speak to have asked me about the idea of a body becoming a tree. Pretty cool concept since our collective conscience is becoming aware of greenhouse gases and toxic pollutants. Maybe this is the answer! Not so fast....
The designers of a body becoming a tree: Capsula Mundi
https://www.capsulamundi.it/en/
https://www.thelivingurn.com
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How many times have we said that? How many times have we said that and still didn't do something? How many times did we miss our chance to reach out - forever?
That can be a heavy thought to have in your brain. The heaviness can lead to action:
to not miss out on moments when the image of someone you are missing pops into your head and you think you should call, or text.
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Let's start talking green burial. First off, you may want to find a cemetery that follows green practices. The best way to find that is to look at the Green Burial Council website. Their directory lists certified cemeteries by their criteria, by state.
https://greenburialcouncil.org/cemeteries.html
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April 16 is the day! You can complete an Advance Directive and Power of Attorney for Healthcare any day, but why not take advantage of this national day? Look for an event near you. I am planning an event in my area and I am so excited to see how many folks will attend to learn more about this important task.
https://prepareforyourcare.org
https://fivewishes.org
https://theconversationproject.org
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Garrick is a self-described gamer. He owns an escape room in Richland, WA, called PerplEXIT. We met at a Death Cafe and have had some one-on-one discussions as well. What could a gamer add to the death conversation? Plenty, and you have to listen to get the nuance of the relationship.
--Listen for two topics: Gear Fear and Acceptance. If you aren't a gamer you may think you won't learn anything interesting about death. Not true! For example, what is a "Death drill"? (14:44)
And how about:
--"Worry less, have more fun" (20:30).
--"I'm not the only one" (32:14).
http://www.perplexitpuzzlerooms.net
https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us
https://ffvii.square-enix-games.com/en-us
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We've covered active listening, starting conversations with those who need to share, and how to keep from shutting down conversation by turning the attention to ourselves. We want to be good listeners and display care for those folks speaking to us, but, when do We get to speak and share?
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Created for people to have a somewhat more comprehensive advance directive, the Five Wishes form includes the elements of the advance directive, the health care power of attorney, a wallet card, and space to fill out special instructions. Take a listen...
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Now that you've thought about who will speak and advocate for you should you be unable to speak for yourself, what will you include in your Advance Directive? This can be an emotional and difficult process. It's not a one-and-done document. You can and should review your AD when you have a new diagnosis or if you've learned something that has changed how you think about dying.
-Note- Around the two-minute mark, I mentioned primary care providers not able to spend 15 minutes to discuss your AD. It's not because they're not interested: it's more that they are pulled in so many directions they may not be able to sit with you during a regular checkup. Perhaps an appointment specifically to discuss these matters can be helpful.
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So, you've decided you want to ask someone to be your healthcare proxy, agent, or POA for healthcare. Have you considered them carefully, to make sure they are the best choice? Have you chosen alternates? Listen in to find out what considerations you should make in choosing your healthcare proxy, agent, or POA.
Each state has their own name for this individual or these individuals. Check online for the forms.
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Maybe Valentine's Day (or the day after) is as good a day as any to designate your health care proxy, or at least have a conversation with whom you'd want to advocate for you should you become unresponsive, or for whatever reason unable to communicate. Learn about the Durable Power of Attorney for Healthcare: listen in.
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This is what I would consider to be a foundational question you'll want to ask yourself as you consider your end of life. You have options. You'll want your loved ones to know your choices: Your ideal choice, the adequate choice, and the acceptable choice, based on finances and support system. You can also choose not to choose.
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Let's dig in and talk about the really tough topics. We've learned about thanatology, conversation, why to have one, and how to be a good listener.
But what is it we're supposed to talk about? Unless we address our own dying and death and how we would like our end of life to be, how can we talk about it with those folks who may be speaking for us some day?
Facing each day knowing we will die actually makes living more fulfilling. Come on in and see where 2024 takes us.
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I've been thinking about this episode for a while now, and my encounter with a stranger was what I needed to record and bring it to you. Four letters: how can four letters make up a word that carries so much power? Sometimes, this word is THE BEST word for the job. I can't deny it.
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It sure can! We bought our son a deck of conversation starters when he was visiting over Christmas and it was fun going through some of the topics, which were light and fun. Since this show is about dying and death and having conversations about end of life, I present you with the End of Life Deck. This comes from the makers of the Death Deck.
When a caregiver is building a trust relationship with a client this deck can be helpful in breaking the ice or at least getting to know one another. For family members, it can be a way to bring up tough subjects we encounter as one is aging and facing their end of life.
https://thedeathdeck.com
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We all go through tough times and sometimes situations seem insurmountable. Loving one another in a way they feel loved can be such a beautiful gift. If you can receive love in this way as well, that really tough situation may just seem a little less daunting. Taking advantage of the moment of sunshine, a warm smile, or something that makes us laugh can set aside the worries and heaviness - even for just a moment - but the FEELING of being loved can sometimes give us just enough strength to move through the tough situation one more day. Taking time to love our loved ones in a way they need to be loved can be as simple as asking the question: How can I love you today?
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We sure had a great time together for my last interview of 2023. These women are charming, smart, thoughtful, and just a treat to have on the show. I hope you enjoy the final question of the interview. Lots more in store for 2024. Stay tuned.
Podcast mentioned: Terrible, Thanks for Asking - https://ttfa.org
End of LIfe Deck - https://thedeathdeck.com
https://tumbleweird.org
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I met these two women, Sarah and Shanel, over the summer at a Death Café. While we both host/ed Death Café, their vibe is different than when I hosted. It reminds me that each person has a unique perspective to share with the world. They bring that vibe into the show, and I know you'll feel it as we talk together.
Bonus: To keep this episode from being too long, I saved a little nugget from this interview for next week. We laughed a lot and the ladies answered my last, last question so well, I wanted to share it with you. But that's for next week.
Podcast mentioned: Terrible, Thanks for Asking - https://ttfa.org
End of LIfe Deck - https://thedeathdeck.com
https://tumbleweird.org
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I'm angry and now I feel guilty for that, because you're gone--forever. Is it wrong for me to be angry?
https://bookshop.org/p/books/first-wives-club-olivia-goldsmith/8880458?aid=88272&ean=9781416562832&listref=the-book-is-probably-better-than-the-movie
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116313/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7546362/
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Candy Chang was in deep grief, feeling so heavy and alone. She got an idea and now it's a global movement. Check it out.
Beforeidieproject.com
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Our old family roles can resume when we gather, even though we live our present personal lives differently. Do I want to behave like I did when I was a kid, or teenager, or young adult when I'm with my parents, siblings and cousins? No. Do I want to behave as the adult I am today? Yes! I'd like to say I showed up as the adult, but I often reverted to the younger role without realizing it.
Are we doomed to keep falling back to our old roles?
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I once again am rearranging my recording space/office/guest room in anticipation of a visit from my son. In doing this I came across a special memento I had set aside a few months back to share with you all. Since it popped out at me again I figured now would be good a time to share it.
Dave was a high school friend. I attended my first rock concert with him and our group of friends. We had good times together. When he was tragically taken from this world I was hit hard by the loss. I was young and had not experienced death this closely yet.
Dave lives on in my memories and photographs taken through our years as friends. Now that I have shared it, the memento will return to its place in my notebook of memories, but Dave's memory resides in my heart forever.
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I haven't done this well in my younger years, but I strive to improve as I age. I will be the elderly family member one day, sitting in a corner, not engaging with the others. I don't want to become resentful and cranky. I want my family to know that I still have value. How can I begin the shift?
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I'll explain this movement to help family caregivers and be the 'eyes and ears' for Hospice. I have tremendous respect for Hospice. They helped me and taught my family and me so much when our parents were dying. I presently am a Hospice volunteer. What Hospice nurses do day in and day out, all through the night, and so much more brings peace and some comfort to the family members doing the bulk of caregiving for someone with a life-limiting illness or disease. They offer social workers, chaplains, art/music therapy, pet therapy, and education.
They cannot, however, be with patients and family 24/7. This is where an end of life doula can be of help. Take a listen...
https://www.doulagivers.com Suzanne O'Brien offers free trainings for families wishing to learn how to care for a dying family member as well as training courses for those wishing to become a doula professional.
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I wouldn't call myself a hypocrite if you asked me, but something happened today to make me realize, I just might be a hypocrite. I bring you this episode, unplanned, based on events of the morning.
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When you get that melancholy feeling, grief you can't shake, or wrapped in fond memories, wishing you could express everything you're feeling in that moment? What if you could make a call, into the wind, your message of love and sadness being carried off to your loved one?
Listen in to learn about windphone.
https:/www.mywindphone.com
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When we are working on a project with many players or tasks, we "close the loop", or 'tie up loose ends". We don't want any part undone or people left uninformed. But if we were to die in the middle of a project, what then?
If you're a crafter you likely are juggling many projects at once. What if you become ill or disabled and can't finish? What if you die? What if a crafter you know were to become disabled or die, with projects left undone?
Enter looseendsproject.org
Jen and Masey created this non-profit. Check out their website and learn about how to get those unfinished projects finished.
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Any minute, we could be dead. Someone we love could be gone. We do not know get to know the time of our death.
Dr. Ira Byock wrote "The Four Things That Matter Most: A Book About Living". He found through his years as an emergency physician and Hospice physician that the dying often turn inwards, become softer, and retrace the footsteps of their lives and relationships. To affirm connections that are strained by telling loved ones The Four Things can be a life-changer, or end-of-life changer, if you will. What are the Four Things? Take a listen.
https://irabyock.org/books/the-four-things-that-matter-most
https://theconversationproject.org
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Want more Melissa? Isn't she a great thinker and conversationalist? I couldn't imagine keeping this piece of her from you all. What surprises her and brings her joy? It's the small things. Listen in as we wrap our conversation.
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Boy, oh boy, are you in for a double treat! Melissa is someone I met almost 8 years ago. She moved away for a few years and, independent of one another, we suffered loss and went through sadness. We also grew in our faith and wisdom through wrestling with God, practicing forgiveness, experiencing grief, and so much more. Melissa explains her peace through trials because of her faith. We talked so much that I split our interview into two parts.
Our first part covers love, forgiveness, serving, and faith. You will laugh and maybe shed a tear. You will walk away with some wisdom Melissa has gained from others in her own growth journey. Here's Melissa, Part One.
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I read a social media post awhile back about Grief Groceries. It's not about the food, really, as much as it is about how to show up for those who are gripped with the pain and sorrow of grief. So, what does showing up look like? Take a listen.
https://www.socialworker.com/feature-articles/reviews-commentary/book-review-home-made-grief-groceries-showing-up/
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When physicians diagnose an illness or disease, they use tests, examinations, and check blood markers, etc., to predict the outcome for a patient. Doctors can also predict when a person is likely to die. What??? How is that possible? Are they accurate? Take a listen. You may find yourself living a different tomorrow.
Resources from this episode:
VO2 max, or maximal oxygen consumption, refers to the maximum amount of oxygen that an individual can utilize during intense or maximal exercise. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17218891/
Muscle strength vs. Muscle hypertrophy
https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/difference-between-strength-hypertrophy
Science writer Penny Sarchet, in a Wellcome award-winning essay, begins by asking if just telling a man he has cancer can kill him? In 1992, the Southern Medical Journal described a case of a man diagnosed with liver cancer and given just months to live. After his death, an autopsy showed that his tumor had not grown or spread. His doctor wrote: “Could it be that, instead of the cancer, it was his expectation of death that killed him?”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jun/02/doctors-predict-patient-die-prognosis-wrong
Do you want to know how long you will live?
https://www.blueprintincome.com/tools/life-expectancy-calculator-how-long-will-i-live
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I was considering this difference between happiness, which is temporal, and joy, which is a state of mind that can be present even in dark times. How are they different? How would one be able to tell the difference?
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When we are with someone who is suffering from grief we often feel the need to fill every second we're together with words. But what about silence? That can be a balm, much more than talking. We can't "fix" their loss. We can't necessarily cheer up a grieving person.
Each stage of our life and our experiences as well as individuality determines how we process emotions. So, what can we do?
"On Death and Dying", Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, M.D., author
https://www.ekrfoundation.org/elisabeth-kubler-ross
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Destinations can be great. Getting there can be great. When the destination is death, we can sometimes choose the journey. The way we process our emotions can lead to a more peaceful journey to our end of life. To leave nothing unsaid, to let those you love know how much you love them.
What is your most precious possession? Dr. Ira Byock has some insights regarding this and the journey to death as a result of many years working as a Hospice physician and listening to his patients. He also is part of The Conversation Project, an organization I have mentioned here. Take a listen.
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Whitney is a Grief Recovery Specialist who uses the Grief Recovery Method to help people move through grief for themselves as well as be better listeners to those sharing their grief. Whitney herself described wanting to ‘love better’ as a result of participating in the program, then went on to become a Specialist. Whitney mentioned the program can teach how to process emotions. We talk about how difficult it can be for people to hear the grief and sadness of others and may use some ‘myths’ about how to ‘get over it’, or ‘move on’.
Listen around 42:03 for a surprising block to sharing. Keep listening to hear about other ways we cause people to stop sharing or feel unheard.
You can reach Whitney at whit.weber1@gmail.com
To find a Grief Recovery Specialist in your area, go to https://griefrecoverymethod.com, click on the blue heart, then enter your zip code or city.
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When you have lost someone you care about, it's natural to feel sad, lonely, long for their presence, etc. This is a normal part of grief. When your sadness affects your daily life, your work, or the way you interact with others, for a prolonged period, it may be time to check in with yourself to see if your grief has reached a point of needing to get some help or support. If you or someone you care about is struggling, reach out for help. I list several types of prolonged grief or complicated grief to help identify when normal grief may shift into something disabling to daily life.
Call 988 or other hotlines to talk to someone about your grief or get advice for a friend.
Wendy Wisner, writer
https://verywellmind.com
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This episode is about loss and grief. I share some of my losses that I had not considered until venturing into 'what is grief'. Some unexpected items came up for me. So now what? I have some work to do.
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Grief is described as deep sorrow. As a human, living on Planet Earth, I would say grief cannot be avoided.
Grief comes from loss. We all will suffer loss at some point in our life.
End of life planning is not intended to avoid grief; rather, making and discussing your end of life plan helps you to live your life more fully. This happens because conversation begins, the idea of forgiveness presents itself, and engaging in final conversations or making sure to say 'I love you' can bring a sense of comfort and/or peace at the end of life. Joy and peace can take the place of uncertainty or anguish. You may get to hear some wonderful sentiments from those you most care about or share some wonderful memories together.
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It's been said that animals communicate to us. You've likely had experiences of this communication yourself. When we talk about The Good Death, however, would we think of our pets?
As my husband and I made our way through an animal farm, he asked whether the farm actually could be a refuge. Then I wondered whether the animals were rescued from predators or poachers, which then led to thoughts about The Good Death.
My story contains three animals who died differently, and I don't know for sure whether they all went in peace.
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He's not nuts. He misses his daughter. Listen to how he feels connected to her.
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That elephant I mentioned a few weeks ago? Not only is it in the room: it is roaring! What is forgiveness? Does forgiveness mean that I have to trust the person who violated me? What is my role in forgiveness? What will it get me?
You may not want to relive pain in order to forgive. I get it. Forgiveness may be just the thing that sets you free. Free from bitterness, resentment, etc. It does not erase your grief. It can open the door to healthy boundaries.
I am not a grief counselor, nor do I claim to be an expert of any kind. I do not suggest anyone who has been violated should confront the violator. In many cases, to do so would be unwise and unsafe.
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VSED, or voluntary stopping of eating and drinking, is legal in all 50 states. It is not considered suicide. Why do people choose this option, and how can this manner of dying be more comfortable and peaceful?
Suzanne O'Brien, RN, has thoughts that I will share.
Judith Schwarz, RN, Ph.D., also has shared her thoughts on VSED.
I have my thoughts, too, and included them for you in this episode.
And what about life insurance? Does it cover VSED or MAID?
If you want more information, check out
https://vsedresources.com/
https://www.compassionandchoices.org/our-issues/vsed
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People wanting to die to end their suffering or 'to not be a burden' is not new to society. The options to hasten death, while controversial, are growing. States are hearing from groups and organizations as well as citizens who want the choice to end their life when they want to do so, not necessarily at their natural end of life. But, is this method actually 'natural'? The Final Exit Network says Yes.
Consider this: Dr. Sally Hall mentioned that people with dementia who choose this end-of-life option ‘leave some life on the table'; but, wouldn’t anyone leave some life on the table when choosing to hasten their death? Is that the point of choosing this option?
The Hemlock Society offers a "speedy, comfortable, certain solution" to end 'physical suffering or impending loss of selfhood'.
https://www.hemlocksocietysandiego.org/
https://finalexitnetwork.org/
Jean’s Way, book by Derek Humphry
Final Exit, book by Derek Humphry
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Ruben and I have been friends for awhile. I knew his mother was ill and when she died I offered prayers of comfort for his loss. What I did not know what how his mother died. I was sorry I hadn't moved in closer to him at that time of his life. He talks about that time with me today, seeming to be in what I felt is a place of calm peace over the loss. That does not mean he is no longer grieving.
approx 10:23-He mentioned the 'stairway of grief', where he and his siblings would go to cry together. He mentioned that 'grief is the cost of love'. Ruben's story is important, thoughtful and loving for his mother.
approx 32:00-Ruben shows us how to have 'a celebration while living'.
In our pre-interview, Ruben mentioned the book "Our Greatest Gift: A Meditation on Dying and Caring", by Henri Nouwen.
Thanks Ruben!!!!
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A big ol' elephant came into the room: I have avoided this issue because I didn't know how to address it, and I don't have all the answers for the dangerous or toxic relationships in our lives, or how or why we may want to pursue reconciliation. I can say I didn't pursue mending the dangerous relationships in my life. Listen how I got through some of the struggles around that.
Coda Alliance calls their organization "The Consumer Reports of End of Life Conversation Tools". This is a great resource for beginning and engaging people in end of life conversations. https://codaalliance.org
"Give Patients the Death You Would Want". Alex Psirides shares his thoughts in this podcast episode for doctors but I believe for us as well: https://litfl.com/mastering-intensive-care-019-with-alex-psirides/
What is 'Everything'? thoughts about what patients actually want at the end of life.
"We Need to Talk About Dying" article by Kate Stanton. Yes. We.Do!
https://www.themonthly.com.au/blog/kate-stanton/2016/28/2016/1477612744/we-need-talk-about-dying
Canada's campaign for end of life discussions: https://choosingwiselycanada.org
https://litfl.com/mastering-intensive-care-019-with-alex-psirides/ For doctors: “Give patients the death you would want”.
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In this episode we will hear from two physicians on each side of the Medical Aid in Dying option for those with terminal illness. Both have compelling arguments but agree that healthcare has changed, and determining when a person will die is not precise. The American Medical Association believes doctors should be 'life-savers', not 'life-takers'.
Take a listen or visit the following websites for information:
lifenews.com
healthcareconsumerrights.org
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Caution: The conversation about ending one's life continues. Please proceed carefully.
Why do we want to learn about what other countries are legislating about medical aid in dying? Because their decisions may influence our policy makers and the individuals seeking this option to end their suffering. The notion that one can seek to end their life can seem really heavy--it IS really heavy, and is not to be taken lightly. When someone is reaching the end of their life, especially in light of a terminal illness, the suffering can be too great. The loss of their ability to perform activities of daily living independently can be too much to bear. The controversy of having this choice is polarizing. What is a suffering person to do? Let's learn about how others are handling this very difficult life-changing decision.
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Caution: We are diving deep into this topic of medical aid in dying. If you are considering suicide, not medical aid in dying to ease physical suffering, please call 988 to speak with someone.Listen to the excerpts from the American Public Health Association journal article entitled "Patients' Right to Self-Determination at the End of Life" in 2008. The Oregon Model was enacted first in 1997 but it took 10 years in court, going all the way to the Supreme Court, to become what we now know as the Oregon Death with Dignity Act (DDA).
Dr. Kevorkian, a doctor in the 1980s, wanted to help his patients die. Unfortunately, there was no law in place and his practices were sometimes unethical, and he eventually was convicted of murder in 1987. Since that time, physicians wanting to help their patients carry out their wish to die and end their suffering have had few legal options. That's changing. In 10 U.S. states, patients can legally end their own life.
oregon.gov Death with Dignity Act FAQ
deathwithdignity.org
https://bentley.umich.edu learn more about Dr. Jack Kevorkian
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Death with Dignity passed first in the state of Oregon. Ten states now have laws permitting medical aid in dying, or MAID. Several countries have also enacted policies for this.
This is a hotly debated and controversial topic. It is also a sensitive topic. Proceed with caution as you listen.
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Whether your mother is alive or not, whether you have a good or poor or no relationship with your mother, hopefully there is someone you can honor this Mother's Day.
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Death with Dignity is a law which several states have passed. This gives a terminally ill patient the opportunity to choose their time of death if they meet the criteria set forth by medical professionals and legal parameters.
Stay tuned for an interview I did recently about Medical Assistance In Dying.
In the meantime, we will be reviewing and learning new information about choices available to end suffering.
This is a sensitive and controversial topic. This show's purpose is to inform. Proceed with care.Reference: American Journal of Nursing, 1975, pg 99.
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Seriously, how often do we consider this? How many times have we walked out the door without a thought of whether we actually would return? How many times have you watched someone you love go out for their day and wondered if that was the last time you would see them? My guess is 'not many'.
Tear AlertJust so you know....
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It's dying that scares me--a bit. The death itself, as I am learning, is rather peaceful as the body dies. My fear comes from not knowing how I will die, who will be around me, and whether I will have said all I want to say to those I care about most.
There is a game out there to help ease my fears, and yours as well.
Coda Alliance, a nonprofit whose motto is "Empowering easier, early, end-of-life conversations", developed GoWish cards.
Listen as I play the game myself.
https://codaalliance.org
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Get information on advanced planning, advanced directive, caregiver support and education, and so much more from Doulagivers.com Free Resource Center for Family Caregivers. Suzanne O'Brien, RN, founded Doulagivers and has educated hundreds of Death Doulas. She recently announced that she will be holding a 90-minute training workshop for family caregivers.
doulagivers.com
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I was young when Jimmy Carter was President of the United States. I have seen news pieces over the years since his presidency about the work he continued to do around the world for peace and medical advances and much more. He was not a strong presence in my life but he is now, as he has chosen to come into Hospice care as his end of life approaches. He actually, for me, became a spokesman for Hospice. I find myself speaking on behalf of Hospice and volunteer my time at a local Hospice. I am grateful that Mr. Carter’s decision to go into Hospice is pushing Hospice into the mainstream media. My hope is that more people will use Hospice. I have included a link below for you to explore what Hospice is designed to do for the dying. The article is for a book titled, The Amateur’s Guide to Death and Dying: Enhancing the End of Life, by Richard Wagner, Ph.D., ACS. https://g.co/kgs/frRcND
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Jared describes his work as a police chaplain on scene, side-by-side with cops, tending to the dead and the families left behind. Cops aren’t necessarily warm and fuzzy. What they see is tough stuff, no doubt.
Television and movies do not show us the reality of finding a body on scene. There is respect for the body while investigation is underway to when the body is transported away from the scene. Police teams are respectful to the dead. There is a place for laughter, too. Listen for the story.
His role as a ‘spiritual and emotional paramedic’. What is it to be ‘bonded by trauma’?
As a pastor as well, Jared discusses faith and the families he leads, from birth to death. Can faith soften grief in a tragedy or loss?
Jared spends his time getting to know cops and being a trusting presence to help them open up. How does he do that? “Hey Chaplain” is his podcast. Check out Episode 33. https://heychaplain.buzzsprout.com/1792621/10960164
Jared gives advice to us all to be Present, and lays down some challenges that can shift relationships, fears, and other emotions around death.
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The 11th Hour is a time in a person’s life when death is imminent. The body dies when it is ready, and there is labor and work to prepare for the end of life. The changes the body goes through as it prepares to die can take weeks, days, hours, or minutes.
Sometimes people can control their end of life: waiting for that phone call, that visit, or to say words that have been too long in saying. Eventually, death comes.
Hospice had been a gift to me when I had not seen death before. Barbara Karnes, RN, has been referred to as a Hospice pioneer. Her booklet, “Gone From My Sight”, was given to me so many years ago and remains a popular item families can rely on for reassurance that what they are witnessing is a normal part of dying. The presence of Hospice nurses or a quick phone call with a Hospice nurse or social worker helped my sister and me during this really tough time and, shortly afterward, when our dad was dying, we found the booklet once again to be a reliable tool as we watched him go through his work of dying.
Find Barbara Karnes' book here:
https://bkbooks.com
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Have you sat vigil? If so, then you know the melancholy feelings, the sadness, and the joys and laughter of a happier time. I'm feeling melancholy today as I near my birthday and I reflect back as well as look forward to how years were spent compared to how I want my remaining years to be in the future. As long as we live, we get to think about how we will be different from this day forward, then make those changes.
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When a loved one dies, or when you die, did you know there will be at least 79tasks related to the death that will need completion? I don't know about you, but when I am under stress or anxiety, I can feel frozen, not able to think as clearly or move as quickly than is typical for me.
Don't you love it when someone makes your life a bit easier? Mueller's Funeral Home sent me an unsolicited email recently, asking whether I'd would like to receive a list of 79 tasks to be completed immediately following the death of someone. They don't know me and they don't know about this show, but they sent me the content for this episode, and boy am I happy about that!
Your challenge for this week is in this episode, so go get it! Then let me know how you did. I'll work on the challenge this weekend.
If you want the list, write me.
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Sometimes games can elicit emotions that are difficult to explain or recognize. Men play sports like golf or jog together, side by side, and can share deeply their thoughts and dreams, etc. Women have heart-to-heart conversations usually facing one another. A game can be a safe distraction for folks, and when the talk is around end of life, a game that aids the conversation of dying and death is called The Death Deck (thedeathdeck.com). Lori LoCicero and Lisa Pahl created The Death Deck. It is a huge deck of cards with topics and questions for an individual to browse, a couple or a group to play together, all around topics related to death and dying. You can even keep score if you're a competitive type. Enjoy!
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Difficult conversations usually can be softened over a meal, by soft lighting, comfy seats, and a nice meal. deathoverdinner.org figured this would be a great way to have this sometimes tough conversation. I explain the history of Death Over Dinner and walk you through how to plan your own Dinner.
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According to Barbara Karnes, RN, the dying are working as they prepare to leave this world. Take a listen as I try to capture a bit of the wisdom Barbara shared with Karen Wyatt, M.D. on the End of Life University podcast.
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Want a method to help you lean into conversations about dying and death? One way is to use the resources found through The Conversation Project. theconversationproject.org offers a guide to start thinking about your own end of life wishes and offers a starter kit to prepare yourself to begin the conversation. Use it for yourself. Give it to someone you love. We will go through the Starter Guide together in this episode so you get a taste without my giving you all of the meat. That, you ought to dig into on your own, when you're feeling ready.
"It always seems too soon, until it's too late."
Supported by Institute for Healthcare Improvement: https://IHI.org
Find Advanced Directive forms at nhpco.org/advancedirective
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https://lastactsoflove.com
-No One Should Die Alone
https://NOSDA.com
-Compassion and Choices
https://www.compassionandchoices.org/
https://mydirectives.com
Extremis movie
Book: A Year to Live: How to Live This Year as If It Were Your Last by Stephen Levine
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Ruth is a dear friend and I am honored to have her kick off this year of conversation. Ruth is a gem. I'm sure you will agree after listening to our conversation.
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What?? Who "reads" podcasts and why would I say this? How would you feel if someone you follow in social media or podcasting, YouTube, etc, seemed to drop out of your feed, for no apparent reason at all? How would you know what happened to that person? I am considering making a podcast with a similar title. I also think this is a good reminder to stay in communication with the folks I love most, so that I won't drop out of sight from them. I don't want them to get some maudlin letter stating I have died. I hope those I love most already would know that. How about you?
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I attended my first Death Café in 2012. I enjoyed the experience so much I continued to attend different Death Café meetings throughout San Diego. I became a host of Death Café in 2014. Take a listen and see for yourself that talking about death and dying does not have to be scary. It may even be fun!
http://deathcafe.com
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We are at the beginning of a new year. I don't tend to make resolutions from year to year but for 2023 I do have some changes I'd like to make in my conversations. Have you been considering your end of life plan? We will be talking about the many avenues we can take in starting the discussion about our end of life. We will have interviews sprinkled throughout this year in addition to more education about the Good Death.
Thanks for joining me in this new season!
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It's been several months since I began talking with you about end of life conversations. I've been preparing you for your opportunity to speak to those you love about your choices. Are you ready?
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I saw a decorated Christmas tree recently that shook me. I was moved. I took a photo of a flyer that hung on the wall behind the tree that described the tree and its purpose.
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How can I not be a good listener when I've been told by so many what a good listener I am? This happened in a way I didn't consider until I started talking about how to derail a conversation. Listen in on my mistake.
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What can stop heartful conversation in its tracks? We bring our history, perceptions, attitudes and judgments into conversation. If we are careful we can bring out the speaker's intentions by the way we listen and respond. When we are listening with judgment, attitude, impatience or hurt, the conversations don't often produce the results we had hoped to achieve. We are wrapping up listening as we look toward The Year of Conversation.
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When you have stuff to talk about but not people to talk about it with, whether because the stuff may be considered too heavy or serious or scary? The PEOPLE, the folks you can talk about anything with, who get you, whom you trust?
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We learned about listening, now let's discuss how we can validate what our speaker is saying to us. We can narrow down emotions and tease out feelings that may have been expressed as anger or sadness but actually have a different root, such as fear or loneliness. Exploration into better conversation can improve communication.
Take a listen.
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This thanksgiving is not what you expect. Take a listen.
Resources:
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1-800-273-8255
Text HOME to 741741
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If asked, would you be able to define these two terms? They're quite similar but they have distinct differences without one being necessarily better than the other, but perhaps more appropriate in certain situations. They also cross over one another. In our attempts to be better listeners, I encourage you to take a listen and identify which you are inclined toward. Knowing the differences between compassion and empathy can improve your ability to listen and to show up for the most important conversations.
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Source materials referenced in this episode:
https://greatergood.berkeley.edu
Yourdictionary.com/genuineexamplesofshowingempathy.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6005077/
Here is another look at what I see as The Good Death. I'll share the opinions of others in this episode, in addition to mine. These people have much more personal experience than I do, and I think you will find their thoughts quite helpful in your exploration of your wishes for your end of life, or perhaps you will learn how you may be a loving participant in the end of life conversation with someone you love.
https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/cancer-information/advanced-cancer/end-of-life/common-questions/what-is-a-good-death/https://eolupodcast.com/tag/diane-rehm/When My Time Comes movie 2021, Joe Fab director, Diane Rehm, Interviewer
The Good Death movie 2018, Tomas Krupa
When the Time Comes, TV movie 1989, John Erman director
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If we are so busy giving our advice or even what we consider encouragement to someone who is bearing their soul to us, are we really hearing? Are we have a heart connection? The end of life conversation is important enough that we should listen, intentionally, so that the speaker feels heard. Tune in for some tips on practicing active listening and do much less talking.
https://hbr.org/2017/02/in-a-difficult-conversation-listen-more-than-you-talk
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Our exploration of better listening continues. In this episode, learn how to actively listen and encourage respect and clarity in conversation. Once you master this listening technique, you can carry it into the tougher or more serious conversations around end-of-life matters.
Verywellmind.com.what-is-active-listening-3024343
https://www.mindtools.com/CommSkll/ActiveListening.htm
www.pattiwood.com
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Are you a good listener? Maybe you are, but could you improve? Probably. Over the next few weeks we will learn about active listening and the impact good and not-so-good listening have on our relationships and interactions with people.
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This was recorded awhile back and I didn't feel ready to release it, until today. Why today? I don't know for sure, but it felt right to send it out to you all, so here you are. This podcast illustrates one of the most important conversations I have had. I thought it would be difficult, and tears were shed prior to it, but I felt so different afterward. Give it a listen and see how it grabs you and maybe spurs you on to have a similar conversation yourself.
Good or Not So Good, death of a loved one can leave a hole in our heart. I'd like to think that the Good Death leaves more peace behind, where the Not So Good Death can leave pain, anxiety, and important thoughts unexpressed, which can add to or complicate the grieving process. We will hear some examples of the Not So Good Death and some ways to encourage The Good Death.
https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/seven_keys_to_good_death
https://www.shanti.org
https://agsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jgs.15321
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8931066/
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(98)90329-4/fulltext
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It's here, the discussion about The Good Death. I broke it up so you can ponder the ideas here and see how the ideas compare to your own ideas about The Good Death.
I referenced and quoted many items and here are the links:
https://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/pages/2016-03-30-successful-dying-elements-of-a-good-death.aspx
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4828197
https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com
Mitch Albom, Tuesdays with Morrie (Albom M. Tuesdays with Morrie. New York, NY: Bantam Doubleday Dell; 1997)
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Listen to the definition of DNR, or Do Not Resuscitate, and what that means to you and your family. It can be a daunting decision to consider for your end of life, and one you should absolutely consider, evaluate, and assess to see if it is a decision you would choose. You do have options. Listen in to my story.
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Have you celebrated a smile? I know I missed many of these opportunities as I was raising our children. So much to do, so much to consider as a new parent. Now that my kids are adults, I am seeing so many opportunities to smile and celebrate the moments that make me smile. I considered this recently when a subscriber to my blog, While We're Still Here (I'm Still Here), responded to my suggestion for my readers to share their "nuggets"--thoughts or phrases they could repeat and share in tough times, rough times, or to encourage others. You know, like old wives' tales, like "A stitch in time saves nine"? There's deeper meaning behind the nugget and we can pull them out when needed. She shared, "Celebrate Every Smile". Loved it!
I included another nugget in this podcast episode. Listen in and learn about it.
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We made it to the end of our topical list of the types of Thanatology and how each school of thought studies and examines dying and death. Social thanatology encompasses anthropology, sociology, cultural differences, and ancient to modern traditions not only in the United States but from all over the globe, whether a large city or remote tribe.
How do people mourn, grieve, celebrate the life of someone they love? It's a journey I want to explore with you all as the weeks go by, so we can learn together how other cultures celebrate and grieve and the practice of traditions throughout the generations, from all over the world.
I hope this series has been informative and educational. If you have comments or would like to share any cultural traditions or ceremonial practices around dying and death, drop me a line at either my website grimtea.com or whilewerestillhere.com. You can also subscribe below to get news and blog posts as well as a first listen to each podcast episode.
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Spoiler alert: I discuss the final portion of the series This is Us. If you haven't gotten to the end of the series and you don't want me to spoil it, you may have to download this podcast episode and save it for after you finish watching Season 6 of This is Us. It isn't the last episode in Season 6, but it is called The Train. Hence, my inspiration for the message I bring you today.
How one comes into the world and another goes out of the world. How I get onto the tear train time after time brings me a little closer, almost like a trip I take each time to reach The Good Death.
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Check out the referenced television series:
https://www.nbc.com/this-is-us
We touched lightly into thanatology ethics, now we will explore the ethical choices and decisions made by patients and their care providers as well as family members. These are not as simple as it may seem. How do patients and their providers agree when facing end of life? How can we prepare our providers to follow our wishes? Take a listen.
Reference materials:
https://f1000research.com/articles/8-1193#:~:text=Home%20%20Browse-,Moral%20injury%20and%20the%20four%20pillars%20of%20bioethics,-ALL%20METRICS.
https://bmcmedethics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12910-020-00502-5
https://journals.sagepub.com
(Henry, B. Evolving ethical and legal implications for feeding at the end of life. Ann Palliat Med 2017; 6(1): 87–90.)
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Documents: We have documents that describe our end-of-life wishes, documents that instruct our healthcare team and family members, indicate our funeral choices, and tell people how my estate will be managed. But when I considered becoming my friend's legal healthcare decision maker, I felt a burden I didn't expect. She had never asked me to do this and yet I found myself on a path of taking on this role. How could I go forward with such an important legal process without even asking my friend?
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In this episode I am back in my studio, but without a cute puppy sleeping at my feet.
We will explore in this episode how pastors and theologians who earn an advanced degree with certification in Thanatology use their education and experience in the fields of chaplaincy, clergy, lay clergy, and funeral directorship, while working in Hospice, palliative care, and alongside first responders. Listen for more details.
References:
Tyndale.ca/seminary/programs/pastoral-thanatology
American Institute of Healthcare Professionals aichp.org
Gotquestions.org/thanatology
American Academy of Grief Counseling
Association for Death Education and Counseling adec.org
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Hello, and thanks for listening! This is the next installment of my series looking at Thanatology, or the study of dying and death. In this episode you'll hear how musician practitioners can bring about serenity, peace, and opportunity to express final thoughts or share precious moments between a dying person and the family members present.
mtai.org
accordaschool.org
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This episode could have been titled Kathy Unplugged, since my particular location included pretty much me and my computer and a set of ear buds. I couldn't wait to bring you today's episode. I didn't want to forget the nuggets that I learned because I felt they were compelling enough to share with you all.
A puppy being a mirror? What?? Take a listen and see if you can picture it--looking into the experiences of a puppy being reflected into my life, and how I saw raw stuff about myself, as though looking into a mirror. It was, mind-blowing, convicting, and an important opportunity for me to learn about myself a little more.
This is a podcast about dying and death, and I do tie it all together, but by way of a puppy.
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We will continue our series with Psychology, and a little story. It's a personal experience that proved to me how valuable our psychological professions are at the end of life or after a terminal diagnosis is given.
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I planned to talk about ethics this episode, and I went off track - a tangent - so I made an Ethics Preview to keep in line with the brief descriptions of each area of Thanatology we will explore together. Once I recorded the episode and realized what I had done, while it has great content I definitely plan to share, I decided will hold onto it for now. Ethics and morals guide decision making for physicians and patients and their families. I hope you find this episode prepares you to discover some of the dilemmas doctors and healthcare professionals face every day.
You can reach out to make comments, ask questions, start a discussion or subscribe at kathy@whilewerestillhere.com
You can listen to all my episodes at whilewerestillhere.com and grimtea.com, where you'll also find my blog.
Resources:
https://f1000research.com/articles/8-1193#:~:text=Home%20%20Browse-,Moral%20injury%20and%20the%20four%20pillars%20of%20bioethics,-ALL%20METRICS
https://bmcmedethics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12910-020-00502-5
https://journals.sagepub.com
Learn.org
(Henry, B. Evolving ethical and legal implications for feeding at the end of life. Ann Palliat Med 2017; 6(1): 87–90.)
In the past couple of weeks death has hit many people I care about, and I could not move forward with my plan since Death has its own plan. Instead, I have shared some thoughts about how life is interrupted by death, how we try to comfort others, and how we might learn how to be present with our loved ones.
Hello, and thanks for listening! This is the next installment of my series looking at Thanatology, or the study of dying and death. In this episode you'll hear how musician practitioners can bring about serenity, peace, and opportunity to express final thoughts or share precious moments between a dying person and the family members present.
mtai.org
accordaschool.org
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Today we are starting to put the pieces together--the subspecialties that make up Thanatology. Our overview last week was a great start, but let's dig deeper. What professions study biological/physical thanatology? Let's learn together.
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In this episode I will define and start you on a journey of exploration into the field of thanatology. We will discover that the study of dying and death can provide medical answers, sort out emotions and behaviors at the end of life, and bring awareness to societal and cultural practices at the end of life and at the time of death.
It's a big term that covers a broad range of study. Let's dig in!
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Today I will be telling a sweet story about a kitten who impacted my life briefly but left a lasting impression. He showed me whimsy and tears, joy and sadness at the same time.
Also, I experienced a Steel Magnolias moment while I was with Tux that brings the idea of joy in sadness to life.
Steel Magnolias is a film released in 1989, directed by Herbert Ross.
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You've heard me talk, now learn about what brought me to become so passionate about the death conversation.
I describe my experience as a Death Cafe host. If you're looking to join in a Death Cafe in your area, check out deathcafe.com.
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I'm so glad you're listening today. You get to hear about the mistake that started me on this path of discussing dying and death. I'd like to say I learned the lesson right away but that was not the case.
Today's message inspired me to coin the phrase "whimsy and tears". It sums up how I see the death conversation. Both elements of the phrase, whimsy and tears, have brought me through some tough, tough conversations, periods of grief and sadness, and have elevated my joy.
I hope you see what I mean as you listen.
Welcome! You know, we all will do it, so why don't we talk about it? There are so many reasons that I have come across over the years about why I don't talk about dying and death, and now I'd like to open a conversation with my listeners, to talk about hard things; to say what needs to be said to whom we need to say it, before we die. It doesn't have to be scary. It's a conversation. One I sure want to have while I'm Still Here.