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Lao American Sports Hall of Fame

The SEA4 Podcast aims to bring the stories of refugees from Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam and their American-born descendants into the mainstream. By focusing on athletes and other accomplished individuals who have overcome adversity we hope to inspire others to pursue their dreams. John Messina and Ko Chandetka from the Lao American Sports Hall of Fame will be interviewing athletes and others who represent the diverse cultures of Southeast Asia including Lao, Laotian, Khmu, Khmer, Hmong, Vietnamese, Lu Mien, Cham, and others.

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Life is a journey filled with highs, lows, joy and pain and no one knows this better than Anna Ounoutha. Raised by refugee parents from Laos, she experienced the devastating loss of her brother to gang violence and became a mother during her teenage years. Instead of succumbing to these challenges, Anna transformed adversity into motivation. She pursued higher education, established a successful career in criminal justice, raised a family, and even excelled as a drag racer. Her resilience and determination not only shaped her personal achievements but also inspired her to give back to the community. Through our interview with Anna, one profound lesson emerges: despite life's hardships, every day is a precious gift meant to be cherished.

Music: Summer of 1984 by RKVC

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For most of us help is only a phone call away but we often forget that those responding in our time of need are fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters… everyday people. At no time was that more evident than on September 11th, 2001 when 343 firefighters lost their lives. From routine fire inspections to one of the darkest days in our nation’s history, Andy Rasavongseuk served the people of New York for over 25 years. This selfless father of three and his colleagues put their lives on the line to protect others all while quietly fighting their own internal battles. As a nation, we made a solemn vow to never forget those who perished on 9/11. Equally important is our remembrance of the survivors, for whom that tragic day will never end.

Andy Rasavongseuk retired form the New York Fire department after serving over 25 years including during September 11th, 2001

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In 2023 a group of Lao American athletes traveled to Cambodia to represent Laos at the SEA games. Among the group was Angelina Messina (University of Pittsburgh Swim). Astrid Dirkzwager (Georgia Tech swim), Ariana Dirkzwager (Georgia Tech swim, Steven Insixiengmay (University of Georgia swim) and Dawson Sihavong (Stanford University wreslting). This episode includes a short recap and interviews with the athletes that were conducted at the games.

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Samson, a man so powerful they say he could slay a lion with his bare hands. Much like his biblical namesake, Samson Phommabout’s life story is one of incredible strength and resilience. Raised in the shadows of Salt Lake City, Samson's early years were marred by the allure of gang life. It would take a brush with law enforcement and the tragic loss of a dear friend before he would confront the harsh realities of where his choices were taking him. He decided to trade the streets for the cage, channeling his energy into mixed martial arts. Samson would rise through the amateur ranks and into the pros. Through blood, sweat, and relentless dedication, he transformed himself into a professional fighter and tested the waters as an entrepreneur. Samson’s ultimate goal is to represent his Lao heritage on the international stage.

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Music: Summer of 1984 by RKVC

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The first generation walked, so that the second could run, and the third…could fly… Lost somewhere between Buddhist ancestors and Mormon neighbors, between his Lao heritage and the American dream Kyto Khouangrasvongsa would find his way home on the football field. Kyto began playing in high school before transitioning into the semi pros. When the team he was playing on went into default, Kyto paid off the debts and found himself at the helm as owner and general manager. Evolving from player to leader, football became more than a game—it became a crucible that forged Kyto's character. As he inherits the torch of life from his refugee parents, Kyto envisions a future where for his son, the field is only the launching pad. Kytos’ parents came from Laos as refugees. His older brother was born in the Nong Khai refugee camp while Kyto was born in Utah.

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Music: Summer of 1984 by RKVC

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They say that a smooth sea has never made a skilled sailor. The odds were stacked against Jason Somachay in life. Growing up without a father, being raised by his immigrant grandparents and finding his way into the juvenile justice system. It was through the tumultuous seas of his youth that he discovered his anchor: martial arts. After being introduced to MMA by an uncle, Jason would rise through the south Florida amateur circuits and in 2012 made his professional debut. His journey as an athlete and person would come full circle when in 2024 he travelled to Laos and Thailand, re-connecting with his heritage, visiting the grave of a father that he never knew, embracing the spiritual side of Muay Thai and learning that at 37, his life was only beginning.

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Music: Summer of 1984 by RKVC

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Rose Khun is the daughter of Cambodian refugees that resettled in the United States after fleeing the Khmer Rouge. Her parents operated a small video store in California where her father was killed in a robbery. The tragedy would impact Rose for years to come. Through somatic breathwork Rose was able to start her healing journey and ultimately forgive her father’s killer, a fellow Khmer Rouge survivor. In this episode host Ko Chandetka opens up about his own healing journey having lost his sister to homicide as well. https://www.youtube.com/@the_rosie_rosehttps://www.instagram.com/the_rosie_rose_/https://rosierosebreathwork.my.canva.site/somaticbreathworkMusic: Summer of 1984 by RKVC

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From a small town in Maine to the lights of Bangkok, it’s the love of the game that has taken Jose Nouchathavong on a journey around the world. Jose began playing basketball as a child and would work his way onto the roster of a local community college before going on to play for University of Southern Maine. At a crossroads, contemplating a transition into the workforce, fate intervened with a unique opportunity – a chance to travel to Laos and proudly represent his heritage as a member of Team Luang Prabang in the Thai Basketball Super League. Basketball has taken Jose to places like Indonesia, Malaysia and even Armenia but in his heart, there is still unfinished business. His goal is to represent Laos at the SEA Games alongside fellow Lao-American, Bobby Syvanthong.

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When the Lao American Sports Hall of Fame was founded over a cup of coffee in South Elgin, Illinois, we could have only imagined what it would become. About two years into our journey, we’ve inducted 25 athletes, featured countless rising stars, built bridges between athletes in Laos and the USA and made a few new friends along the way. The SEA Four Podcast was born out of the desire to give the Hall of Fame athletes and other inspiring individuals a platform to have their stories told. In a special addition we invite you to join us as we celebrate the release of our 50th episode. John and Ko will reflect on the first 50 episodes, the Lao American Sports Hall of Fame and the new non-profit, Lao International Sports NFP

Music: Summer 1984 by RKVC

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While we love the competition, the glory and the roar of the crowd there is so much more to sports and nowhere is this more evident than on the Rugby pitches of Laos. From the capital city to the rural villages rugby is making a positive impact across the country. Through the Lao Rugby Federation’s developmental programs and the transnational Weredragons Rugby club people are coming together from around the world and overseas Lao people are reconnecting with their heritage. In Laos rugby is not just a game; it's a life-changing opportunity for individuals to develop the skills and the tools they need to succeed in all aspects of life. Megan Knight is a former member of the U.S.A. women U19 national team now living in Laos. Viengsamai Souksavanh is the CEO of the Lao Rugby federation. Ana Lavongtheung is a Lao-American rugby player who has played on the Weredragons and with the Lao Rugby Federation. https://www.weredragonsrugby.com/https://www.facebook.com/laorugbyMusic: Summer 1984 by RKVCPhotos: Courtesy of the Lao Rugby Federation

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Victor Hugo said, “What causes night in our souls, may have stars”. The 9/11 attacks drove Terry Rajsombath to enlist in the military and it wouldn’t be long before he was deployed to the front lines in Afghanistan. After surviving a near fatal gunshot wound in a harrowing fire fight, Terry would face the ultimate battle of his life while trying to recover both physically and mentally. At the dawn of the darkest night in his life, Terry, would find a star and against the advice of doctors go on to complete one of the toughest sporting events invented, the Iron Man. While the battle with his injury may never truly end Terry will continue finding the stars in his life such as his clothing brand, Rhode Island Original.

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The toughest moments in our lives can either break us, or make us. Brandon Thammavong was headed down a path of self-destruction, when in a defining moment he decided to make a change. Pouring everything into his mental and physical self, while harnessing his entrepreneurial spirt, Brandon, would conquer his past and forge a path into the future. He’s dabbled in bodybuilding and physical training but his greatest passion comes from helping others find their purpose through his platform, North Star Zenergy. Brandon Thammavong is a lifestyle and confidence coach. Originally from Westminster, CO he currently resides in Las Vegas.

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Music: Summer of 1984 by RKVC

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In life we make choices. Shortly after Rasi Chau landed in America, he strapped on a football helmet and put the war and devastation that had defined his early childhood behind him. Rasi would go on to play in high school, college and the ranks of the semi-pros before taking to the field as a coach and official. From Pewee to the Pros, Rasi has been sharing his knowledge, triumphs and struggles with the next generation of athletes for over 20 years. His story not only embodies the American spirit but also serves as a reminder that our past does not define us; but rather our choices and our perseverance is what truly shape our destiny. is a Khmer-America football coach from Lynn, MA.

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How does a shy child from Long Beach end up fighting on Asian’s biggest MMA stage? After high school, Sovannarhry Em began training in boxing and martial arts. Initially focused on fun and fitness she quickly caught the eye of professional promoters. After winning her first few pro fights in dramatic fashion, Sovannahry boarded a plane for Malaysia and entered the cage as One Championship athlete. Sovannahry is currently taking a break from her MMA career but hopes to one day represent her Khmer heritage on the international stage as a member of team Cambodia.

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Amatha Ratsombath was lost in life, floundering somewhere between the French ideals of Liberty, equality and fraternity and the urban ghettos of Paris filled with disenfranchised immigrant youth.  He would find a path in life through martial arts and after relocating to his ancestral homeland of Laos discover his inner self.  Amatha recently led the Lao national Brazilian Jiu Jitsu team to its first international competition at the 2023 SEA Games in Cambodia and is now preparing for a history making appearance at the 2023 Asian Games. His mission, to elevate the profile of Lao martial arts on the international stage. 

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https://www.facebook.com/BJJ.Laos

Music: Summer of 1985 by RKVC

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Paris: By Yann Caradec from Paris, France - La Tour Eiffel vue de la Tour Saint-Jacques, CC BY-SA 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=34933538

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Behind the triumphs and glory that grace the sporting arenas, there lies a lesser-known battle fought within the hearts and minds of these extraordinary individuals. Athlete Mental health, a topic often shrouded in silence but that holds immense importance. Behind every gold medal lies, trauma, self-doubt, fear and pain. From the darkest lows to our proudest moments, we'll discover the unbreakable spirit that resides within every athlete, reminding ourselves that mental health is not a barrier but a catalyst for extraordinary achievements. Guests include: David Boutsomsy, Peter Chanthaphone, and Malay Bouaphakeo.

Warning: In this episode we discuss difficult subjects related to mental health including addiction and suicide.

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To most people the 2021 Jimmy Kimmel L.A. Bowl was just another football game but to the Lao American community in was a moment of great pride as two Lao last names battled it out. AJ Vongphachanh rose from the youth football fields of western Washington to playing in a sold-out SoFi stadium on national television.  Behind his rise, a strong work ethic, an NFL dream and most importantly a supportive family. After an incredible four years at Utah State AJ has decided to finish out his college eligibility by helping BYU make the transition into one of college football’s top conferences, the Big 12. 

Music: Summer 1984 by RKVC

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Neil Diamond said, have you ever heard a story about a frog who dreamed of becoming a king, and then became one? Well except for the names and a few other changes if you’re talking about Leth Oun the story is the same one. Leth was a virtual slave under the Khmer Rouge but now protects the leader of the free world. After escaping the killing fields, transitioning through refugee camps and adapting to life in America, Leth joined the secret service. A pivotal moment in his life and career came when in 2012 he escorted President Barack Obama to the land of his birth, Cambodia. Leth chronicles his life’s journey is his new book, A Refugee’s American Dream.https://www.facebook.com/LethOunBookMusic: Summer of 1984 by RKVCPhotos Credits:

From Leth Oun

Ankor Wat By Bjørn Christian Tørrissen - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=3991230Genocide By I, Inisheer, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2529242Obama: By East Asia and Pacific Media Hub U.S. Department of State - President Obama at ASEAN-U.S. Leaders' Meeting, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=31966463

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How does a child go from a poor farming village in Laos to the top of a mountain? Opportunity, its what the American dream is ultimately all about.  After transiting through a refugee camp, Boomer Savanh, came to America as a child and went on to have a successful 27-year career in the U.S. Navy and is raising a family. As an athlete, he’s climbed to the top of some of the world’s most majestic mountains, endured 100-mile trail runs and competed in Marathons across the country.  If there is any opportunity that Boomer is taking advantage of here in America, its living life to its fullest. 

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Kenya Prach is a survivor of the Cambodian genocide, known as the killing fields. Destitute and clinging to life, Kenya entered a refugee in Thailand.  At night he would sneak out of the camp and fight for money in order to support his family. In America, with limited language and job skills Kenya would rely on his fighting skills again and pass on bokator and the ancient kun-khmer arts to a new generation.  His martial arts skills have become a platform to fight crimes against humanity, stop human trafficking, and bring positive change to individuals and the world.  Wanting to give a voice to those that were silenced by the Khmer Rouge Kenya published his life story in a book, Black Stone Hands. https://www.facebook.com/blackstonehandshttps://www.instagram.com/blackstonehands/Buy Black Stone Hands: https://www.amazon.com/Black-Stone-Hands-Kenya-Prach/dp/1960572180Music: Summer 1984 by RKVC

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For many in the U.S. participation in competitive sports ends on the high school football field but for Jerry Sysourath and Tino Paophavihanh football was only the beginning. Rugby, a sport that has long been popular in the Asia Pacific Region is steadily gaining a following in America and became a completive poulet for Jerry and Tino. What started off as a hobby has taken the two men around the world. Competing in international matches, finding a community, and in the case of Tino, bringing him back to his ancestral homeland as a member of the Lao National Team. 

Jerry: https://www.instagram.com/lame_hip_sti/

Tino: https://www.instagram.com/tpaophavihanh/

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As Steve Hartman would say, “everybody has a story”. John Nammychai is no exception.  The child of refugees he guided himself into the world, jumping from planes, fighting in war, and realizing his version of an NFL dream on the semipro football field. John did this all while trying to understand who he is and to connect with his ancient Khmu heritage from Laos. This isn’t a story of an NFL star or Navy Seal, but rather a regular guy navigating through this complicated world.  Check out Sweet Rice Lao Thai Eats: https://www.sweetricewa.com/Music: Summer 1984 by RKVC

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Passion, its what drove Malay Boauphakeo from her humble begging in Storm Lake Iowa, to the softball diamond at Drake University. After graduating and entering the workforce her passion for competitive sports would lead her to found and compete on a roller derby team, the Des Monies Dames. Malay’s greatest passion in life might just be instilling it in others through her work as a life coach, IT recruiter and with her newly earned master’s degree in mental health counseling.

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Why attempt something if most people fail?  Why put yourself in danger when you can be at home safe?  Soukhanthone Siphaxay, known to most as Tron,  was in boot camp during the September 11th, 2001 attack on America and would soon find himself on the front lines of the war on terror as part of an elite force, the Navy Seals. Tron enlisted in the Navy with the purpose of serving his country and was deployed to hot spots around the world including Iraq, Afghanistan, and the southern Philippines.  The Laos born refugee has been fighting his whole life but one of his toughest battles would come at the end of his career as he tried to adapt back to life as a civilian.  

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The glory, the agony, the sport and the acting, we dive deep into the world of pro wrestling. From the bright lights of the stage to the depths of defeat it may be just a show to many, but to the athletes, it’s a lifestyle filled with exhilaration, challenges, pain and purpose.  Join us for a roundtable style discussion on what its like to be a pro wrestler.  This is Ringside Raine and welcome to the Lao American Pro Wrestling Round Table, a special episode of the SEA4 Podcast, And now, introducing the best Lao American pro wrestlers in the world, Sean Lao, El Saiko Gato, and Jordan Jaa…..Peter Chanthapone (Jordan Jaa),  Sean Bouasenesouk (Sean Lao), Sengphet Sengphachanh (El Saiko Gato). Introduction by Ringside Rainehttps://www.facebook.com/JordanJaa500https://www.instagram.com/seanlao/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/pwgato87/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/ringsideraine/?hl=en--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

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The road to greatness can be a lonely one and no one knows this better than champion powerlifter, James Vang. It was during a tough time in life that James made a choice, ignore the naysayers, don’t let others define you and go all in. As a member of Team USA, a nine-time national champion, and Arnold Classic title holder, James Vang has powered his way to the top of the sport. It's not all about titles and breaking records for James he enjoys giving back as a coach, advocating for health and wellness, and bringing pride to the Hmong community.

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This is part two of our interview with Lao-American dancer, poet, and scientist, Krysada Panusith Phounsiri. In the last episode, he took us on a journey, from break dancing on the streets of San Deigo to national tv and the Las Vegas stage.  Krysada is also a poet and tells of his experiences and the stories of his community through writing.  We start off part two of this inspiring interview with a recital of Krysada’s poem, Sa bai Sa bai.    

Sa bai Sa bai Poem: https://youtu.be/aRVHwqABLZE 

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Part 1 of a two-part interview. What lies at the intersection of science, art, language, and athleticism? At the confluence of Lao and American culture? Krysada Panusith Phounsiri, or Binly, as he is known is an accomplished break dancer, award-winning poet, artist, and physicist. From his early days in Laos to the Las Vegas stage, Binly is writing his story with every dance move, photograph, and engineering breakthrough.  It's a story, being retold through poetry, preserved for future generations as art, and most importantly, inspiring a new generation to do the same.

Music: Summer of 1984 by RKVC

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Sometimes, in life people shoot for their dreams, literally. Arick Souvanna grew up in Saginaw Texas, a town known for hosting one of the largest Lao New Year celebrations in America. Arick is putting this tight-knit community on the map again, this time for Precision Rifle Shooting. From building his own ammunition to traveling the country for competition, Arick is taking a shot at a dream. After competing for four years, he has won regional matches, placed as high as 6th in national events, and earned pro status in the Precision Rifle Series. In this episode, Arick will take us on a journey through the world of precision shooting, tell us about his hunting adventures and give us a taste of his food truck, The Saucy Hibachi.

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Sometimes we don’t find our calling in life, it finds us. As a refugee from Laos, Kenji Saykosy was bullied as a child and turned to martial arts for self-defense. 40 years later at Royal Tiger Academy in Damascus Maryland, Kenji and his partner Dee Dee, pass on their knowledge and passion to students of all ages. Helping young people build confidence, preparing athletes for competition and keeping our men and women in uniform safe, its all in a days work for Kenji and Dee Dee. The team at Royal Tiger Academy is on a mission to share their passion with the world, make a difference in people’s lives and leave a positive impact on the local community.https://www.royaltigeracademy.com/--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

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In 1960 a group of southeast Asian countries came together in Kuala Lumpur to standardize the rules and settle on a name for an ancient sport, Sepak Takraw.  The sport began gaining popularity in the United States mainly within the Lao and Hmong diaspora communities in places like Northern California and Minnesota during the 1980s.  Jeremy Mirken began playing with a group of Lao Americans at an apartment complex in Oakland, California.  He would soon find himself representing the United States on the world stage and ultimately take the reigns as the head coach for team USA.  In November of 2022, he and six players traveled to Korea for the ISTAF World Cup and made history by upsetting Iran and bringing home gold medals in the 3 v 3 and 4 v4 division 1 categories.   https://www.facebook.com/groups/1516722721893853  https://www.instagram.com/jeremymirken/?hl=en  Music: Summer 1984 -RKVCwww.laoamericansports.com--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

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You may have heard the saying “find your why”.  It’s the why that has driven Nate Sengmany from his namesake, a refugee camp in Thailand, to doing the Nate Pose on top of some of California’s most scenic bluffs.  He came up during Sacramento’s turbulent 1990’s and after an encounter with the criminal justice system Nate made a choice in life by finding his why.  Nate’s why is to leave have a positive impact on, individuals, his family, the Lao community, and beyond. His life has taken him on a journey of entrepreneurism, coaching, philanthropy, and even to inventing his own fitness program, Hike and Hit.  

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What would motivate someone who holds a master’s degree, is a licensed paramedic and speaks five languages to step into the ring with some of the best fighters in the world?  A passion and a dream. A passion for competing and the dream of representing your ancestral homeland at the biggest athletic show on earth, the Olympics.  Walter Sarnoi Oupathana has come a long way from fighting on the mean streets of East L.A. He’s earned a WBC title and even ran for city council but his greatest honor is representing his Lao heritage on the global stage.  Walter’s passion has taken him on a trip around the world where he has felt the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat but still finds time to help others as a first responder.  His ultimate destination is the 2024 Paris Olympics. 

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Drive by any park or visit an indoor rec center these days and you’re sure to see people, young and old, hitting a ball in what appears to be a life-size game of Ping-Pong.  Pickleball has taken the US by storm and two Lao Americans are riding its wave.  Noi Sourinthone, left his home in Tennessee to follow his dream to Wichita, Kansas, where he reconnected with a childhood friend and now fellow pickleball player, Matthew Nola.  Both men have secured sponsorships, are founding companies and have become defacto pickleball ambassadors to the Lao community. In 2022 Matthew traveled to Laos and had the honor of formally introducing the sport to his ancestral homeland.  Join us as we talk to the two we call the Lao Pickleball Guys.   Noi Sourinthone: https://www.instagram.com/hurrrcanes/?hl=en Matthew Nola: https://www.instagram.com/joopjoop99/?hl=en


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When one door closes another one opens. As refugees from Laos, Sy and Nang Sayasone were resettled in the Midwest where they quickly went to work, toiling in meat packing plants in an effort to give their children a better life. Jackie would take advantage of that opportunity and go on to be a college athlete but just as Jackie’s college soccer career was taking off, she was diagnosed with a blood disorder that abruptly ended her dream and sent her into depression. Jackie would battle back by finding ways to support the team from the sidelines and a few years later would stumble onto a new sport, cornhole. After five months of training and competing in various tournaments Jackie signed her first pro contract and realized her dream of becoming a pro athlete. Jackie now travels the country competing in tournaments in front of fans on ESPN and NBC but hasn’t forgotten where she came from. She enjoys giving back to less fortunate people and animals of Laos and is currently building a shelter for stray dogs and cats in her ancestral homeland.

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Sometimes, our life’s calling finds us in the most unexpected ways. Ohn Phommavong grew up in a rice farming village in rural Laos before heading to the city in search of work.  Through a chance encounter, she would fall in love with a backpacker from America, Justin Scoggins.  After traveling across Asia together they would settle down to a new life in America where Justin introduced her to an obscure hobby, disc golf. Ohn was natural and it wasn’t long before she was beating her husband and other more experienced players.  In recent years the sport has soared in popularity and so has Ohn’s career, she now travels the world on the Pro Disc Golf tour.  Ohn is currently one of the top ranked players in the sport and is closing in on her ultimate goal, a PDGA world title.  

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They may say that “nice guys finish last” but Ben Nguyen proves that sometimes it’s the good guy who comes out on top.  After the war in Vietnam Ben’s family settled in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, where they rebuilt their lives from scratch as refugees. Ben was bullied as a child so his mother signed him up for taekwondo.  From his early days practicing in a church basement to stepping into the UFC cage, Ben has been fighting his way through adversity.  In 2014 a video of Ben knocking out an opponent in 25 seconds who had tried to bully him at a prefight press conference went viral.  Ben now trains alongside his wife, Australian fighter April Adams, and proudly represents his Vietnamese heritage in the sport that he loves.  

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Arnold Schwarzenegger's six rules for success are, trust yourself, break some rules, don’t be afraid to fail, work like hell and give something back. The first time David Phrathep stepped onto the baseball field he was the underdog. From being told that he wasn’t cut out for little league to taking a shot as a college walk-on, David used that negative energy as fuel and became the first know Lao-American to play at the NCAA Division 1 level. Behind his success was a supportive family that did everything they could to help their son stay on a successful path all while learning to navigate through life in a new country and culture.  David’s baseball career is behind him and he now looks forward to giving back to his Lao community as a medical doctor.  

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When it comes to chasing your dream, they say, “it’s not the destination but the journey”.  Pilot Christa Camvongcau Atwood is on the journey of a lifetime, chasing her dream from destination to destination through the skies. From her humble beginnings as a refugee to taking the controls of an A320 Christa is breaking down barriers in a male-dominated industry. Her story shows us that when it comes to dreams, not even the sky is the limit. She now dreams of passing her passion on to the next generation.  


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Linda Sayavongchanh was introduced to basketball in elementary school, a sport that was foreign to her parents who had recently resettled in America as refugees from Laos. At Des Moines-Lincoln High School she would score a staggering 1,630 points, be crowned Miss Iowa Basketball and was named Gatorade player of the year before signing with Drake University.  After an amazing college career with the Drake Bulldogs she would continue pursuing her passion, this time through coaching. Linda recently wrapped up an accomplished coaching tenure with Creighton University and is currently an assistant coach and recruiting coordinator with Indiana University. Identified by the Des Moines Register as one Iowa’s top 50 female basketball players of all time Linda is a member of the Lincoln High School Hall of Fame, the Iowa Girls High School Hall of Fame and of course, the Lao American Sports Hall of Fame. 

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When we featured Folkstyle national champion and Stanford University wrestler Dawson Sihavong as a rising star in the Lao American Sports Hall of Fame it quickly became apparent that Dawson’s journey to the top began a generation earlier in war-torn Laos. Nara Sihavong came to the United States as a refugee in 1978. A mere seven years later he made history when in 1985 he joined the wrestling team at George Mason University and became the first known Lao American to compete at the NCAA Division I level.  Nara would go on to have a successful career, founding companies and building philanthropy organizations all while giving back to the sport that he loves.  For over 30 years Nara has helped a new generation of wrestlers achieve their dreams including his own son, Dawson.   Music: Summer of 1984-RKVC https://www.laoamericansports.com/dawson-sihavong


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Arnold Schwarzenegger once said, “in our society, the women who break down barriers are those who ignore limits.  That’s exactly what Maria Balang did.  Maria started working out to get in shape but soon found herself on the stage competing against women half her age.  This mother of four would go on to capture one of bodybuilding top honors, earning her IFBB pro card in the ultra-completive bikini division.  Maria’s accomplishments are not just a source of pride for her family but for her people, the Lahu. The Lahu are an ethnic group that lives in southern China and the golden triangle area of Laos, Thailand, and Myanmar.  Maria was among a small group of Lahu from Laos who settled in America as refugees after the secret war and shows us that the only limits are those in our minds.  

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Davy Phrathep and his brother David took up baseball during their childhood in Florida. The brothers, whose parents were refugees from Laos, would go on to be the first known Lao Americans to compete at the NCAA Division I level. While Davy may have hung up his glove after graduating from Florida International University, he would merge his athletic experience with his academic pursuits and delve into the world of sports psychology. While pursuing a PHD in clinical psychology at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Davy is working with The Optimum Performance Program, an applied research, and training program focused on the development, evaluation, and training of performance optimization programs for athletes. In this powerful episode, Davy will take us into the world of sports psychology and help Ko Chandetka unpack some of the struggles that he faced as a professional bodybuilder.


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After the secret war in Laos Lo Phong La Kiatoukaysy and his family fled their Hmong village in the mountains and were resettled on the great plains of America. The family adapted to life in Kansas but would try and reconnect with their highland roots by vacationing in the Rocky Mountains. Lo Phong eventually headed to New York City exploring American counter-culture, finishing college, and working his way up the corporate ladder. On September 11th, 2001 he narrowly escaped the attack on the World Trade Center that left nearly 3,000 people dead. Shortly after La Phong walked away from city life, literally, by hiking his way across America.  Having logged over 48,000 miles he’s seen some of America’s most beautiful scenery, faced danger and met interesting characters along the way but most importantly remembers that Hmong means free.

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Justin Phongsavanh was only two years old when he entered the Iowa foster care system after his biological parents were incarcerated.  He was raised by his adoptive mother in Ankeny, Iowa, and excelled at a variety of sports until at the age of 18 his life changed forever.  Justin was shot in a Mcdonald's parking lot after an encounter with a mentally disturbed military veteran.  The attack left Justin paralyzed and feeling hopeless until he was introduced to the world of adaptive sports.  Leading up to the 2020 Olympics Justin would break the F54 class world record in javelin before bringing home a bronze medal from Tokyo.  Justin continues his pursuit of excellence by competing in sports and giving back by helping other adaptive athletes achieve their potential. 

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Five feet tall, 184 lbs, and out of shape. That was Jennifer Chanthavong when in 2017, determined to take her life back, she walked into V-Fit martial arts of Arlington Texas. Jennifer started taking kickboxing classes to get in shape but soon found herself in the ring fighting against some of the best up-and-coming martial artists that Texas had to offer.  Throughout her journey, Jennifer has experienced the thrill of victory as well as the agony of defeat. Along the way, she has built herself into a brand and is a source of pride for the Lao community that she represents. This story is one of inspiration success, defeat, and most importantly about forging your own path in life. https://www.laoamericansports.com/jennifer-chanthavong https://www.instagram.com/jennifer.sao.lao.chanthavong/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063774994499 Music: Summer of 1984 -RKVC


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Channing Cash was born in a small village in Laos where at three years old she was attacked by a bull that had escaped from its pasture.   The attack left Channing unable to walk and was the catalyst behind her parent’s immigration to America as they sought better medical care and quality of life for their daughter.  Upon graduation from high school in Rockford, Illinois, Channing built a career as a mortgage professional and became known as the go to person for achieving the American dream of home ownership among Rockford’s large Lao community.  One day, Channing hit the reset button on her life and walked away from the corporate world. She relocated to Southern California to enjoy the outdoors and pursue her newly found passion for water sports.  As a member of the United States Para-Rowing team she took a shot at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.  Channing is living her life to the fullest and advocates for accessibility in national parks and the great outdoors for those with disabilities. 


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On January 17, 1989, a man walked onto the campus of Cleveland elementary school in Stockton California and unleashed a rain of terror that would leave five children dead and more than 30 others wounded.  The mentally disturbed perpetrator, Patrick Purdy, spent his childhood in and out of the foster care system and had a long criminal record and history of drug use and mental illness.  Most of the students at Cleveland elementary were refugees that had sought safety in America after fleeing the Khmer Rouge or escaping the aftermath of the wars in Laos and Vietnam.  Sam Leam was one such student and despite being shot three times he survived the attack. Sam will take us back to that tragic day and talk about how it impacted his life and the lives of others.  Sam is now focused on his passion for pets and is the proprietor of Sam & Sons Serpents and Bullies.  

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The call that every MMA fighter dreams of finally came in. The man they call the “Asian Sensation” had nine days to drop 25 lbs and get to Las Vegas for his UFC debut. Adversity was nothing new to Andre Soukhamthath and on March 04, 2017, he stepped into the cage securing his place in history as the first Lao American to fight in the UFC. Andre’s journey to the top wasn’t easy and but by his side and managing his career through the ups and downs is his wife, Jamie. Andre recently decided to hang up his gloves, so join as we talk through the tragedies, victories and what the future holds on Andre and his family. https://www.laoamericansports.com/andre-soukhamthath Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC


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Bobby Syvanthong started playing basketball at the age of four in the blue-collar town of Richmond California.  He would be crowned MVP at El Cerrito High School before heading to the east coast to play for the University of Maine at Fort Kent where he revolutionized their game. His talents would capture the eyes of scouts in Thailand and Bobby’s greatest honor would come when in 2018 he stepped on the court and represented a team from his ancestral homeland of Laos in the Thai Basketball Supper league.  Covid shut down the TBSL but Bobby continues his basketball dream through the club he founded with his cousin Timmy, the Bay Area Bullies.   https://www.laoamericansports.com/bobby-syvanthong https://www.instagram.com/bobbysyvanthong/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/bully__ball/?hl=en Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC


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In 1975 the Khmer Rouge launched a rain of terror that would result in the death and displacement of millions of people.  Vanna In and his family would escape the killing fields only to face a new war on, this time on the streets of America.  Caught between the emotional scars that the genocide left on his family and the gang violence of the 1990’s Vanna would head down a dark path as a teenager and into the criminal justice system after being convicted of second-degree murder.  This episode isn’t intended to be about gang violence, its about hope and redemption.  Vanna has dedicated his life to helping others find their place in this world and in 2018 was granted an unconditional pardon. Vanna is currently the executive director of Hope Now for Youth.  Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC


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Growing up in poverty and in an abusive home David Boutsomsy poured his energy into athletics. While running track and playing football in high school he was introduced to Powerlifting by a teacher. David would join the Delaware State University Football team and unsuccessfully try out for the NFL and Arena league before going all-in on bench press. The pain of David’s childhood would fade away when in 2016 he broke a world record and accepted a gold medal while representing the United States at the Pan America championships in Costa Rica.  This isn’t just a story about an accomplished athlete, David is a survivor, and gives back every day through his job as a South Bend police officer and dedicated father.   www.laoamericansports.com/david-boutsomsy www.instagram.com/dboutsomsy/?hl=en www.facebook.com/david.boutsomsy www.instagram.com/laoamericansports/?hl=en www.facebook.com/LaoAmericanSports Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC


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Growing up Cody Chhun was a typical Seattle teenager and everyone expected him to head to college after high school.  Cody instead chose to forge his own path, into the world of professional wrestling.  Unbeknownst to his family, he would sneak off to wrestling school in nearby Everett to hone his craft.  Cody’s family has since warmed up to the idea and he proudly represents his ancestral homeland in the ring by wearing an Angkor Wat emblem.  It was the image of that famous temple that would catch the eye of some Cambodian wrestling fans.  From Long Beach to Lowell, Phnom Penh, to Paris, Cody’s performance in the ring became the talk of Khmer people around the world.  John and Ko talk to Cody about what it takes to make it in a sport that requires both athletics and acting as well as what it means to represent a people that have endured so much each time you step into the ring.   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtPZYPdPVhhwJGFNC-brxbg https://www.instagram.com/classicchhun/ https://twitter.com/ClassicChhun Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC


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As a young child, Toom Chanda’s mother became separated from her parents during the turmoil that occurred after the Laotian Civil war ended in 1975.  More than two decades would pass before she could be reunited with her family in Wisconsin. Toom was born in Laos and immigrated to the United States as a child. He took an interest in martial arts at a young age and by his early 20’s was the owner of several Wisconsin Muay Thai gyms.  He would use his martial arts skills to kick start a Hollywood career by working as a stunt man and extra before going to found his own film production company.  It wasn’t all bright lights and red carpets for Toom. John and Ko as they talk to Toom about navigating through Lao, Hmong and American culture as a child as well as the success and disappointment that comes with pursuing an acting and filmmaking career.  Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC www.facebook.com/ToomStuntTeam www.facebook.com/ToomOfficial www.instagram.com/toom_chanda/ www.youtube.com/c/ToomtumKongkeo


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After the 1975 fall of governments in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia many of the resulting refugees found themselves living in the American heartland. The meatpacking industry, in particular, offered an attractive start for these new Americans with its relatively high paying jobs that didn’t require English fluency. Lo Van Pham was born in Pakse, Laos, but grew up in the Eastridge section of Amarillo, Texas, a neighborhood where a large community of Lao and Vietnamese refugees sprung up in the shadow of a massive IBP cattle processing facility. Lo played football at Palo Duro High School before heading off to Colorado for college. While Lo’s playing career came to an end he felt himself called back to the sport that he loves as an official. He started out at the peewee level before stepping onto the field in front of some of America’s most passionate fans under the Friday night lights of West Texas football.  Lo continued to move up the officiating ranks working Mountain West, Big Twelve and college bowl games across the country. In 2018 he was one of 39 people selected to join the NFL’s officiating development program. Join us as we talk to Lo about his journey from refugee to one of football’s top officials. laoamericansports.com/SEA4 Music: Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC


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Billy Soksoda was born outside of Vientiane, Laos, around the time of the communist takeover. At the age of three, he fled the country with his mother and they re-settled in the United States as refugees. The family found themselves living in a tough Sacramento neighborhood, so Billy’s mom decided to move the family to Redding, a small city in California’s rural north. It was in Redding that Billy would be introduced to a popular local sport that would change his life, Rodeo. The first time he climbed on the back of a raging bull he was hooked. Billy would compete in rodeos throughout the west, racking up titles and accolades as he road with the PBR, PCRA and California Cowboys. Bull riding is just one part of Billy’s amazing story so join us as we talk to this Cowboy, Muay Thai fighter, entrepreneur, coach, family man and soon-to-be Dr. Soksoda.  https://www.laoamericansports.com/billy-soksoda


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Scott Phaydavong was born in Des Moines, Iowa, to parents who had recently immigrated from Laos as refugees after the civil war.  Scott played running back at Des Moines East High school and went on to rush for over 5,000 yards at Drake University.  He became the first known Lao-American to play professionally when in 2009 he signed with the German Football League’s Schwäbisch Hall Unicorns. While Scott’s football stats are impressive, he’s quick to give credit to his older brothers who broke down the cultural barriers in the Phaydavong house so that he could pursue his passion. In addition to Scott, we’ll be talking to his brother, Army veteran and personal trainer, K.P. Phaydavong. Scott remains active in football is currently an assistant coach with the 2021 Iowa High School State champion Southeast Polk Rams.   Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC https://www.laoamericansports.com/scott-phaydavong https://www.facebook.com/SEA4PODCAST


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Kris Dim was born in Cambodia in 1973, shortly before the Khmer Rouge upended life in that country.  Between 1975 and 1979 it's estimated that up to 3 million people died in what became known as the Cambodian Genocide.  After fleeing the country with his family and resettling in the United States, Kris took up bodybuilding as a teenager in Sacramento, California.  In 2003 he earned his IFBB pro card by winning the NPC Nationals light-heavyweight championship. In 2007 Kris suffered a heart condition that nearly took his life about a month after his 34th birthday.  Kris would continue to battle health issues and against the advice of many, he continued competing in the sport that he loves. After suffering a spinal cord inquiry Kris transitioned to the wheelchair division.  Through all his struggles Kris maintains a positive outlook on life and his amazing story needs to be heard.  Music: Summer 1984 -RKVC


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In the aftermath of the Vietnam war, the secret war in Laos, and the Cambodian genocide a wave of Southeast Asian refugees fled their homelands. They began arriving in the United States during 1975 and continued into the 1980s. While the first group was evacuated by the U.S. military most partook in a harrowing escape and transitioned through refugee camps in other Asian countries such as Thailand, Hong Kong, or the Philippines before being connected with a sponsor for resettlement. This diverse group of refugees was scattered across all fifty states. From large coastal cities to small Midwestern towns, everyone had a different resettlement experience. Upon arrival, some were welcomed by helpful sponsors while others were left to fend for themselves in some of America’s toughest neighborhoods. Facing language barriers, culture shock, xenophobia, and haunting memories from their past many struggled to adapt and survive.  Cultural and generational struggles between adults and their more Americanized children were common. Despite these challenges, many went on to achieve great things and over time became ingrained in the fabric of their communities. The unique stories and experiences of the Southeast Asian refugees are often overshadowed by that of the larger Asian American community. This podcast aims to bring these amazing stories into the mainstream by focusing on athletes and other individuals who faced and overcame adversity. Triumphs and tragedies, join us for these inspiring stories.