The Side Woo Podcast: Recent Episodes

Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

The Side Woo is a podcast that takes place at the intersection of the physical and metaphysical worlds. Co-hosts Sarah Thibault and Elizabeth Bernstein interview artists, writers, creatives, and metaphysical practitioners to learn about strategies for navigating both the unseen and material forces that shape our world. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thesidewoopodcast/support

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Sarah interviews Iva about her solo exhibition Seascapes, Snowscapes, Kukeri for the closing reception at Night Gallery in Los Angeles. Recorded on August 24, 2024.

About Iva Gueorguieva
Born in 1974 in Sofia, Bulgaria, Iva Gueorguieva is an artist living and working in Los Angeles California. Notable solo exhibitions include at Night Gallery, Los Angeles (2024) GAVLAK Gallery, Palm Beach, FL (2022) Frederic Snitzer, Miami, FL (2016, 2018); Ameringer/McEnery/Yohe, New York, NY (2011, 2012, 2014, 2016); ACME, Los Angeles, CA (2013, 2015); Samson Projects, Boston, MA (2014); Galerie Stefan Roepke, Cologne, Germany (2013); Luther W. Brady Art Gallery, Washington, D.C. (2013); Susanne Vielmetter Los Angeles Projects, Los Angeles, CA (2012); Bravin Lee Programs, New York, NY (2011); Stitching Outline, Amsterdam, Netherlands (2008); and Pomona Museum of Art, Claremont, CA (2007).

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This week's guest, Nik Thakkar, aka NEO 10Y, was born same date that Freddie Mercury died - coincidence or reincarnation? You decide in this week's episode.

Sarah and NEO 10Y chat about what it's like living his pop star fantasy, his vegan activism, taking 8 grams of mushrooms for a British reality show and growing up queer - among other things.

About NEO 10Y

NEO 10Y is a recording artist, media personality, and spiritual revolutionary from London. His purpose is to help manifest a protopian dimension of peace on planet Earth, through the expansion of love energy.

He makes consciousness-expanding alternative pop, designed to amplify our collective connection with oneness, tapping into Vedic philosophies of peace with his Indian ancestry.

NEO 10Y’s sound is a cohesive blend of cinematic-grunge and industrial-R&B, with lyrics written through the lens of self-realization, and philosophies of love and curiosity. NEO 10Y is an independent artist with AWAL, and directs and produces their own hyper reality music videos; the more contentious of which have gone viral.

His work has been featured by Billboard, Paper, COLORS, Dazed, BBC, The Evening Standard, Rolling Stone, them, CLASH, Earmilk, Notion, Noctis, L’Officiel, GQ, Gal Dem, Interview Magazine, plus major Spotify, Apple and TiDAL playlists including Glitch, Cosmic Playlists, misfits 2.0, TRANSCEND, Discover Weekly, Your Daily Mix and more.

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As a follow up to the book release and live talk with Hayley Barker on July 28th at Artbook @ Hauser & Wirth DTLA, Sarah sits down to talk with Scott Ogden about his gallery, Shrine Gallery, why he loves self-educated artists and even a couple of ghost stories.

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Sarah sits down for a live chat with Hayley Barker at Artbook @ Hauser & Wirth DTLA in honor of her new catalog release, co-produced with Shrine Gallery,

About Hayley Barker

Hayley Barker (b.1973) is a Los Angeles based painter whose bold and beautiful paintings combine apparently prosaic personal details of her immediate surroundings in her home and studio in LA, with an awareness of time passing and the contradiction of painting as a means of both measuring time and freezing the moment. Her subjects are sometimes explicitly rendered from life – the tree from her bedroom window, the view across her lovingly tended yard, or the plants on her windowsill – and yet they seem to come from an interior place, balancing real and imaginary worlds in works that suggest as much a dreamscape as a landscape.

Show Notes

  • Buy a copy of "ALTAR" from Shrine Gallery https://www.shrine.nyc/hayley-barker-altar
  • Hayley's recent show at Ingleby Gallery in Scotland https://www.inglebygallery.com/artists/407-hayley-barker/overview/
  • Healing Machine at Shrine LA curated by Scott Ogden and Hayley Barker https://www.shrine.nyc/healing-machine-works
  • Hayley Barker website https://hayleybarker.com/
  • Barker's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/barker_hayley/?hl=en

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Sarah talks this week with LA-based artist Amir Fallah about his family of origin, immigrating to the US when he was 7, speaking at the recent UCLA School of Arts and Architecture commencement, and all the hard work that it took to get where he is now.

About Amir

Amir H. Fallah received his BFA in Fine Art & Painting at the Maryland Institute College of Art and his MFA in painting at the University of California, Los Angeles. He has exhibited extensively in solo and group exhibitions across the United States and abroad. Selected solo exhibitions include The Fowler Museum; Museum of Contemporary Art in Tucson; South Dakota Art Museum, Brookings SD; Schneider Museum of Art, Ashland OR; San Diego ICA; and the Nerman Museum of Contemporary Art, Overland KS.

Show Notes

  • Amir at UCLA's Commencement https://arts.ucla.edu/single/amir-h-fallah-the-art-of-resilience/
  • Speech on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgcwVxE6m7c
  • Amir H. Fallah website https://www.amirhfallah.com/
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amirhfallah/?hl=en

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This week we share a convesration between Sarah and friend of the pod, artist Natalja Kent. They cover so much ground from childhood stuff to Natalja's storied career in artist collectives, Sasha the Flute, and queer surfing.

About Natalja Kent
Natalja Kent is a Czech-American artist based in Los Angeles,CA. Her work investigates process, materiality and embodimentthrough the expanding parameters of photograms, painting andsculpture. Solo Exhibitions includeLight Wavesat Oolong Galleryin San Diego, CA 2024;Light Waves Broken Watersat And PensGallery 2024 andLight Movesat Situations Gallery/ForelandCatskill, July 2022. She was recently included in group exhibitionsat The Museum of Museums, Seattle, WA; Pace Gallery NewYork, NY, Good Naked Gallery, Los Angeles/NYC and The BerryArt Museum, Norfolk, VA. She has shown work and/or performedat Tate Liverpool; Carpenter Center for The Visual Arts at Harvard;Hiromi Yoshi Gallery, Tokyo, Japan; PS1, MOMA Queens. She isthe recipient of the ArtAffect Grant, Google Artist-in-Residence,Camera Obscura at the City of Santa Monica AIR, RISCA ArtistFellowship amongst others.

Show notes:

  • Website https://www.nataljakent.com/
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/natalja_kent/
  • Light Waves Broken Waters at & Pens in Los Angeles https://www.instagram.com/andpens/
  • RSVP to The Side Woo taping with Hayley Barker at Artbook @ Hauser & Wirth DTLA
  • Sign up for Media Training for Artists July 23, 6pm - 8pm PT
  • Check out Joanne Menon's Writing with the Divine retreat in Olympia, Washington https://joannemenon.com/retreat/

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This week's epsiode is a live podcast taping of a talk with artist Vivien Ebright Chung about her solo exhibition "Verdant Arcadia" at The Trophy Room LA in Los Angeles. Sarah asks Vivien about her sexually fluid vision for the future, her past life in Paris, and what inspires her color palette.

About Vivien Ebright Chung

Vivien Ebright Chung (b. Santa Cruz, CA), is an artist working in Los Angeles. She received her BFA from California College of the Arts, San Francisco, where she took interdisciplinary classes in both fashion and painting. Her understanding and interest in the body, clothed and unclothed, has hugely influenced the direction of her painting. Using lush, sensual mark-making and rich colors, Ebright Chung explores the ongoing conflict between the sensual nature of humanity and the intellectual and spiritual. Drawing on familiar tropes of art history and literature her work aims to document the raw joy and sorrow of being human. She uses life drawing as well as personal experience, motherhood, and friendships to draw upon as subjects for her works. Recent exhibitions include May Flowers, Trophy Room LA, Los Angeles (2024 group); My Favorite Things, Trophy Room LA, Los Angeles (2023 group); 500 Below, Smoke The Moon, Santa Fe (2023 group); Power, Transport Gallery, Los Angles (2023 group); Hoarders at Quarters, Quarters Gallery, Los Angles (2023 group).

Show notes:

  • Verdant Arcadia at The Trophy Room LA https://www.thetrophyroomla.com/vivien-ebright-chung-verdant-arcadia
  • Vivien Ebright Chung on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vivienpaints/

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Sarah talks with NY based artist and recent MFA grad Alexander Brewington about his solo show "What Burns Beneath", leaving grad school and the significance of fire in his paintings. The conversation was recorded in April 2024.

About Alexander Brewington

Alexander Brewington is a Brooklyn based figurative painter, received his MFA from Pratt Institute, 2023. His painting practice is about forming a contemporary narrative between the intersection of classical mythology and urban environments. Brewington was commissioned to paint the Joseph Branch Creek mural in Silver Spring, MD. His work has been featured in Hyperallergic and E-flux Education. He was recently awarded a Pratt Fellowship to attend the 2023 Skowhegan School of Painting and Sculpture. His solo show "What Burns Beneath" opened at Thierry Goldberg Gallery in March 2024.

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This week we share a live recorded conversation Sarah hosted as part of her solo exhibition, Things Worth Saving, at Dreamsong Gallery in Minneapolis. Elisabeth Workman flips the script and asks Sarah questions this time. Let's get nerdy about painting!

About Elisabeth Workman

Elisabeth Workman is a writer and poet with a background in dance. Originally from the pharmaceutical suburbs of Philadelphia, she has since lived in Boston, rural Pennsylvania, the Netherlands, the Standing Rock Nation of the Dakotas, Qatar, and now Minneapolis.
A recipient of a Jerome Emerging Writer Fellowship, a McKnight Artist Fellowship in Poetry, a University of Minnesota Marcella DuBourg Fellowship, and honors from the Pennsylvania Council on the Arts and the Minnesota State Arts Board, Workman has collaborated on numerous projects with visual artists and other poets. She is the author of twelve chapbooks—including ANY RIP A THRESHOLD (Shirt Pocket Press 2015) and with Michael Sikkema, TERRORISM IS WHAT WHALE (Grey Book Press 2014)—and the full-length collections ULTRAMEGAPRAIRIELAND (Bloof Books 2014) and ENDLESSNESS IS NO DESOLATION (Dusie Press 2016). She teaches creative writing and poetry at Minneapolis College of Art & Design.

Show Notes

  • Things Worth Saving at Dreamsong https://dreamsong.art/exhibitions/things-worth-saving-sarah-thibault
  • Elisabeth Workman http://www.elisabethworkman.com/

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This week, Sarah takes a break from the reguarly scheduled program to announce a new live radio show on Friday April 26, from 8-10pm Pacific Time. The show will be once aired monthly on their platform, and then recorded and shared somewhere as yet to be determined. To listen you can go to https://gutsyradio.org/. The guest this week will be an encore presentation of our interview with Elisabeth Elektra, along with songs from her new EP.

Plus Sarah shares her proof that vision boards work, information about her upcoming solo show, and the guest for the next episode.

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Xiao Wang (b. 1990), is a Chinese born, New York based figurative painter primarily working with oil paint. Wang’s work combines dramatic and moody color palettes with a realism approach. He creates constructed scenes from photographs of still lifes, foliage, interior spaces, landscapes, himself, his friends, and loved ones. The contents of these scenes are rooted in everyday life, while the attention to atmosphere and emotion pushes the paintings to an uncanny space. With the use of theatrical lighting and distortion or exaggeration of colors, the world depicted in Wang’s paintings is elevated to a dreamlike space. At the center of this space are human figures, often in solitude, unaware of the fourth-wall in front.

Show Notes

  • Xiao Wang on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/xiaowang_artist/
  • Xiao Wang website https://www.xiaowangartist.com/artist-bio

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This week Sarah chats with Basement VHS podcast and filmscreening hosts, Luca Antonucci and Mitsu Okubo. Sarah asks them about their love of horror and why it might be the best thing to get over the nighttime scaries.

About Basement VHS

The premier VHS seed bank of San Francisco! Highlights from our +3000 and counting vhs library. Basement Radio Fridays 6-8pm on Radio Valencia. Hosted by Luca and Mitsu.

Show Notes:

  • Basement VHS on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/basementvhs/
  • Colpa Press https://www.instagram.com/colpapress/
  • Mitsu Okubo website: https://mmmitsuokubooo.bigcartel.com/
  • Luca Antonucci website: https://lucaantonucci.com/

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This week Sarah talks with author and educator Natalie Serber, a former mentor of hers that she met randomly - so random - during the pandemic. They talk about writing good endings, loving your worst characters, and how Natalie thrived after her breast cancer diagnosis.

About Natalie Serber:

Natalie Serber is a fiction writer, essayist, and educator. She is the author of Shout Her Lovely Name, a book that was reviewed by the NY Times Book Review, O Magazine and the San Francisco Chronicle. She also wrote Community Chest, a compilation of essays written during her recovery from breast cancer.

Natalie received an MFA from Warren Wilson College. Her work has appeared in The Bellingham Review and Gulf Coast, among others, and her awards include the Tobias Wolff Award. She teaches writing at various universities and lives with her family in Portland, Oregon.

Show Notes

  • Shout Her Lovely Name https://bookshop.org/p/books/shout-her-lovely-name-natalie-serber/7083353?ean=9780544002210
  • Community Chest https://bookshop.org/p/books/community-chest-natalie-serber/11699906?ean=9780692492598
  • Natalie's essay on consent https://memoirland.substack.com/p/the-accurate-term
  • Read.Write.Eat Substack https://readwriteeat.substack.com/

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Sarah sat down for a chat at the Space Program Recording Studios in November 2023 to ask Griff Williams, Founder of Gallery 16 about his 30+ years running a San Francisco-gallery. We also talk about his documentary "Tell them we were here" about 8 artists making art outside the gallery system and the impact they have made on the Bay Area's many diverse and underrepresented communities.

About Gallery 16

Gallery 16 was founded in 1993 by artist Griff Williams with the primary focus of representing and advocating for the work of living contemporary artists. In addition to the regular exhibition schedule, the gallery sponsors artists talks, and hosts performances and music throughout the year. It’s our belief that the brick and mortar gallery model, to be culturally relevant, needs to embody new strategies for facilitating and presenting artist’s projects. The space, as Williams describes it, “allows for the artist to fail. We don’t create exhibitions around curatorial agendas, but extend an invitation to artists we trust and hope they use the opportunity to challenge themselves without restrictions.

Studio notes

  • Gallery 16 https://gallery16.com/contact
  • Gallery 16 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/gallery16/
  • Griff Williams website https://www.griffwilliams.com/
  • Tell Them We Were Here https://tellthemwewerehere.com/

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As part of the Pure Beauty exhibition at Eleanor Harwood, Sarah hosted a live panel discussion on Resilience and Joy with artists Tara Daly, Mary Finlayson, and Rachel Kaye. Everyone shares the trials and triumphs they have faced over the course of their careers and fields audience questions.

The conversation was recorded on March 13, 2024. To inquire about any work in the show, reach out to the gallery directly.

Show Notes

  • Pure Beauty at Eleanor Harwood Gallery https://eleanorharwood.com/exhibitions/124-pure-beauty-a-group-show-with-tara-daly-mary-finlayson/works/
  • Tara Daly on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ghertie/
  • Mary Finlayson on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/painted_mary
  • Rachel Kaye on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ray_ray_kaye/

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This week host Sarah talks with author, energy worker and life coach Sarah McCrum who channeled / wrote the book Love Money, Money Loves You. Sarah M shares what money wants you to know about getting rich, enjoying life more and finding balance between woo woo stuff and the reality of the world.

About Sarah McCrum

Sarah believes in a society that is fundamentally based in love, generosity and a deep understanding of the essence of being human. Her purpose is to contribute to creating a world that works for 100% of humanity. She's an author, educator and business innovator. She's the Founder of Liberate Humanity, which is a place for learning and sharing the skills for liberation of the human spirit.Sarah has spent more than 20 years teaching and coaching business owners and their families. She's the creator of the innovative program, Thank You Money, based on the principles of her book, Love Money, Money Loves You. Over 10,000 people have completed courses with Sarah, building a relationship with money that's founded in love, abundance, generosity and nature. She's also co-Originator of LOVE TO, a group of Mutual companies that have created new financial products, backed by the regeneration and protection of nature and human quality of life. LOVE TO has been built from the ground up on the principles of Sarah's book and work. It's an example of what's possible when we build businesses based in the spirit of generosity.

Show notes

  • Love Money, Money Loves You https://books.google.com/books/about/Love_Money_Money_Loves_You.html
  • Sarah McCrum's website https://sarahmccrum.com/about/
  • Sarah McCrum on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sarah_mccrum/

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In honor of the end of Flip Phone February, this week Sarah talks with the co-creator of the Light Phone, a "dumbphone" made to help people spend less time using their phones. Most recently Light Phone has done a collaboration with Kendrick Lamar for their instantly sold-out Light Phone II this past fall.

Joe shares how he and his partner Kaiwei Tang came up with the idea for the phone, and what impact running a business has made on his creative life. We also talk about the very real addiction most of us have to our smartphones, and some strategies for stepping back from the most unproductive digital habits.

About Joe Hollier

Joe Hollier is a multi-disciplinary artist from Brooklyn. He studied design at the School of Visual Arts. He's a filmmaker, designer, director, and entrepreneur. He likes to make stop animations, collages, patterns and drawings, music videos, documentaries, and books.

Show Notes

  • Joe Hollier's website: https://www.joehollier.com/
  • The Light Phone: https://www.thelightphone.com/
  • Kendrick Lamar x Light Phone II https://www.businessinsider.com/kendrick-lamar-launches-limited-edition-light-phone-2-2023-11

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This week Sarah is in San Francisco and gets the chance to talk with artist Jason Hanasik about his career as a photographer and filmmaker. Jason talks about creating GAP’s contribution to the It Gets Better Campaign, losing a sister to mental health challenges and what personal liberation can look like. Sarah shares some personal news.

About Jason

Jason Hanasik is a filmmaker, artist, journalist, and curator. His work has been exhibited at the Smithsonian’s National Portrait Gallery, screened at various international film festivals, and featured on the BBC, The Guardian and in The Los Angeles Times. He has curated exhibitions for the San Francisco Arts Commission Gallery and the Virginia Museum of Contemporary Art and his scholarship has been published in the academic journal “Critical Military Studies.” Hanasik’s photography monograph, "I slowly watched him disappear," is in the research collections of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, MoMA NYC, and other institutions.

Show Notes:

  • Personal Website: www.jasonhanasik.com
  • "A Great Gay Book: Stories of Growth, Belonging and Other Queer Possibilities": https://agreatgaybook.com
  • "How to Make a Pearl": https://vimeo.com/255561801
  • “A Childhood on Fire” http://theguardian.com/childhood-on-fire
  • “Tomorrow Will Be A Better Day In an Unknown World:" https://youtu.be/_ptvmahVE-s

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About Lindsay and Lana Lindsay and Lana are married artists, living, working and raising a baby together in Oakland, CA. They are two-thirds of the art collaborative, Bonanza, with Conrad Guevara, recently exhibiting work at the Museum of Craft and Design, The Contemporary Jewish Museum, and Gallery 16. Lindsay is a filmmaker with experience in the documentary field and currently serves as the Senior Director at Creativebug, an online platform for craft classes. Lana is a painter, ceramicist, author and garden designer. She owns and runs The Tender Gardener, a boutique plant shop and design company. Her first book, The Container Garden Recipe Book, published by Artisan Books will be available May 2024. Lindsay and Lana's podcast Lez Be Moms chronicles their adventures as queer parents. The show can be found wherever you get your podcasts! Show Notes:Lez Be Moms Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lez-be-moms/id1707595726https://open.spotify.com/show/6ndwxksX53dBZZDF2Sm8uUhttps://shows.acast.com/648e26d87404e60011793836The Tender Gardener:https://www.thetendergardener.com/Bonanza:https://www.bonanzaart.com/--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesidewoo/message

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This week I talk with Ben Venom, textile artist and studio manager at The Space Program. We recorded our conversation in July 2023 at The Space Program's recording studio. About Ben VenomBen Venom graduated from the San Francisco Art Institute in 2007 with a Master of Fine Arts degree. His work has been shown both nationally and internationally including the Levi Strauss Museum (Germany), National Folk Museum of Korea, HPGRP Gallery (Tokyo), Fort Wayne Museum, Charlotte Fogh Gallery (Denmark), Taubman Museum of Art, Gregg Museum of Art and Design, and the Craft and Folk Art Museum in Los Angeles. He has been interviewed by NPR: All Things Considered, Playboy, Juxtapoz Magazine, KQED, Maxim, and CBS Sunday Morning. Venom has lectured at the California College of Arts, the Frist Center for the Visual Arts, Midlands Art Centre, Humboldt State University, Oregon College of Art and Craft, and Adidas. Recently, he was the artist in residence at MASS MoCA and the de Young Museum. Ben Venom is currently Visiting Faculty at the San Francisco Art Institute.Show Notes https://www.benvenom.com/bio https://www.instagram.com/benvenom Problematic review of problematic Jason Rhoades' show in 2017 at Hauser & Wirth http://artobserved.com/2017/05/los-angeles-jason-rhoades-installations-1994-2006-at-hauser-wirth-los-angeles-through-may-21st-2017/ Art Date Substack: https://artdate.substack.com/ Art Date Social Club - Eventbrite page https://www.eventbrite.com/o/sarah-thibault-18411193477--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesidewoo/message

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This week Sarah talks with Bay Area artist Amber Jean Young about her work, grief from losing her mother, and then why she chose to have a double mastectomy and an oophorectomy after the birth of her second child.

About Amber Jean Young

Amber Jean Young (b. 1984) is an interdisciplinary artist residing in Berkeley California. Young’s work explores ideas about place, grief, and resilience across mediums, creating vibrant patterns and plant imagery in her compositions. She has exhibited nationally including Bryant Street Gallery in Palo Alto, Eleanor Harwood Gallery, Hashimoto Contemporary, and Marrow Gallery in San Francisco, Berkeley Art Center in Berkeley, Monte Vista Projects and Subliminal Projects in Los Angeles, the Ace Hotel in Palm Springs. She is a 2012 Djerassi Resident Artist Program fellow. Her work has been published the San Francisco Chronicle, Palo Alto Weekly and in catalogs including The MediaMath Collection: Selected Acquisitions 2012 - 2016, A Celebration of 50 Years of Women Artists At Kenyon College, MusiCares 2010 catalog. Her art has been used on the covers and inside jackets of multiple Neil Young and Pegi Young albums and is included in the MediaMath and Fidelity Investments corporate art collections.

Show Notes

  • Order Amber's Shelter In Place book https://amberjeanyoung.com/shop/p/shelter-in-place-book
  • Website https://amberjeanyoung.com/
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/amberjeanyoung
  • Amber on The Residuals Podcast https://open.spotify.com/episode/36fYXZSCJBP0k3Pb43P998?si=20d60302551b43b6
  • Sign up for Plein Air Painting in Los Angeles https://www.eventbrite.com/e/weekly-plein-air-painting-meet-ups-frogtown-in-january-tickets-777395289237?aff=oddtdtcreator
  • Join Art Date Social Club via Substack: https://artdate.substack.com/subscribe
  • The Side Woo Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3obgaJzgBPe7TiIN0yDm1Q

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This week Sarah talks with editor, creative director and co-writer of Taschen's Library of Esoterica books, Jess Hundley. Jess shares her plan for creating the as of today four encyclopedic books, Tarot, Astrology, Witchcraft and Plant Magick, and the important part the Philosophical Research Society played in finding materials for the books.

About Jess Hundley
Jessica Hundley is a Creative Director, Writer & Producer specializing in music, film, counterculture, magick and psychedelia.

As an author and editor, Hundley is currently engaged on projects for book publishers Abrams, Phaidon and Rizzoli. Hundley is also creator, author and Series Editor for Taschen Publications multivolume collection, The Library of Esoterica, a book series exploring the visual history of Tarot, Astrology and other esoteric traditions.
Recent projects as a Creative Director include overseeing staging, visuals and overall concepting for John Legend's 2021 Bigger Love Tour and Legend’s 2022-23 Las Vegas residency. Hundley continues to work collaboratively with John Legend and his team as a Creative Director and Producer, overseeing the recent launch of Legend's LOVED01 skincare line, as well as album art, limited edition book and album packaging and commercial projects. Hundley also served as co-creative director alongside Darren Romanelli on the DomeRX an immersive art experience at the 2022 FORMAT Festival. Other recent copywriting and creative directing work includes drink brand GHIA and an expansive campaign for Corona/Mexico alongside the team at CAA/Observatory.
As an author, Hundley has published over a dozen books in the last decade, an acclaimed biography on country rock icon Gram Parsons for DaCapo, a book on music and meditation with the director David Lynch, and an overview of photographs from longtime Michael Jackson photographer Todd Gray and extensive overview of the photography of Dennis Hopper from Taschen Publications.

Show notes:

  • Jess Hundley https://www.jessicahundley.com/BIO
  • Philosophical Research Society https://www.prs.org/
  • Buy the Library of Esoterica Books and donate to charity at the same time: https://linktr.ee/thelibraryofesoterica

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Ever since she picked up Moonology in 2019, Sarah has been wanting to talk with Yasmin Boland, creator of Moonology the book and oracle decks inspired by the phases of the moon. Finally, this week, Sarah shares her conversation with Yasmin in early November 2023. During their conversation, Yasmin shares her career path from Journalist to Witchy Astrologer, and what led her to create a system of New Moon and Full Moon rituals to help her manifest her life goals and dreams.

About Yasmin Boland

Yasmin Boland is an award-winning astrologer and the Sunday Times best-selling Hay House author of books including Moonology and Astrology Made Easy and the creator of the Moonology oracle cards, possibly the best-selling oracle cards in the history of oracle cards. A former journalist and TV producer, Yasmin's work has been featured around the world, including Vogue, Oprah and Red, and she was recently named as one of the most spiritually influential people on the planet. Yasmin' taps into ancient lunar wisdom to explain to people that they can use Moonology and the Moon, as the most consistent and effective manifesting tool.

Show Notes

  • Yasmin Boland's website https://www.yasminboland.com/about/
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/planetyasminboland/ https://www.instyle.com/lifestyle/astrology/midheaven-mc-astrology-sign-career

  • Yoga Journal, What Your Rising Sign in Astrology Means

  • Keen, The Basics Of Astrology’s Rising Sign

Host & Creator: Sarah ThibaultSound & content editing: Sarah ThibaultIntro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio JungleThe Side Woo is a podcast created through The Side Woo Collective. To learn more go to thesidewoo.comFor questions, comments, press, or sponsorships you can email thesidewoo@gmail.com

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This week Sarah talks with Amir Hamaoui, friend and husband of former guest Rachel Dawson. He shares his journey through recovery and how he answered the inevitable question after any major life change, "What now?" As part of his recovery process, he created a new wellness-focused oracle deck called Welldim Journey that helps people along their path to transcendence and inner peace. Plus they talk about Amir's insane adventures in kite surfing in the San Francisco Bay. About Amir Hamaoui Born, raised, and residing in California, Amir studied and practiced engineering during his early profession. Despite what most would consider milestone life achievements in career and family, alcohol was a persistent layer that began as fun and became a troublesome method to cope with typical life stresses.As time mindlessly passed, the daily suffering of addiction merged with the appearance of a high-functioning life. Fortunately, with ever-present support from friends and family and a personal dedication and persistence to sobriety, life’s path turned towards recovery, gratitude, and self-improvement.A new chapter was born with a commitment to lifelong wellness, bringing Amir back to childhood dreams as an artistic creator to help those seeking to improve their lives and community.Show Notes: The Welldim Journey Deck welldimjourney.com Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html The alternative pyramid of needs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3161123/

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On November 5, 2023 Sarah hosted three guest artists at the Institute of Contemporary Art - San Francisco for a live panel discussion on creativity and what blocks it.

During their conversations they discuss where ideas come from, why do we as artists get creatively blocked and what can we do about it.

Show Notes

  • Rupy C. Tut https://www.rupyctut.com/
  • Rupy's show at the ICA SF: Out of Place https://www.icasf.org/exhibitions/5-out-of-place
  • Heesoo Kwon welcome video https://heesookwon.com/filter/installaion/welcome-from-Heesoo
  • Heesoo's show at the ICA San Jose: https://www.icasanjose.org/current-exhibitions/heesoo-kwon-leymusoom-garden/
  • Cate White https://www.catewhite.com/
  • Cate White's How Do You Paint Youtube Series https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXZpBSnaYl9HO4hN0sAuHlQ

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Recorded at the Institute of Contemporary Art - San Francisco on November 5, 2023

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This week we share a conversation with Sarah and Bay Area artist Jamil Hellu. They talked during a shared artist residency at the Space Program in August 2023.

About Jamil Hellu

Jamil Hellu is a visual artist whose work focuses on the fluidity of identity, cultural heritage, and queer representation, often pointing to the tensions found in the evolving discourses about sexuality. He is a Photography Lecturer in the Department of Art & Art History atStanford Universityand is represented by Rebecca Camacho Presents in San Francisco.Through a multidisciplinary practice rooted in photography and that includes video, sculpture, and installation, Hellu’s projects interrogate the dominant patriarchal ideology of masculinity while challenging preconceived notions about gender expression. Navigating from a personal lens, he frequently incorporates his own history as an immigrant to the United States, exploring the impact of cultural hybridity. His art fosters empathy and dialogue, ultimately promoting a more inclusive and equitable world.Hellu holds a Masters in Fine Arts in Art Practice from Stanford University and a Bachelors of Fine Arts in Photography from the San Francisco Art Institute. His work has been discussed in publications such as The New York Times, The Guardian, Artforum, and VICE. He has held multiple art residencies including at the Headlands Center for the Arts and the Cité Internationale des Arts in Paris. Public collections holding his work include the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art; Cantor Arts Center; and the Blanton Museum of Art.

Show Notes:

  • https://jamilhellu.net/about
  • Jamil's solo show at Rebecca Camacho, "Odyssey" https://rebeccacamacho.com/exhibitions
  • Folsom Street Fair https://www.folsomstreet.org
  • Pop Out https://www.dukeupress.edu/pop-out

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Recording Studio: The Space Program

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This week's reading is for artist Katherine Vetne whose solo exhibition, Palate Cleanser, is opening at Catherine Clark on November 11, 2023 in San Francisco, CA. Show Notes Katherine Vetne http://katherinevetne.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kavetne/?hl=en Palate Cleanser at Catherine Clark Gallery https://cclarkgallery.com/exhibitions/katherine-vetne-ccg-solo-palate-cleanser-2023--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesidewoo/message

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This week Sarah talks Delia Brown, an artist and psychedelic-therapist-in-training living in the Bay Area. Delia shares her ups and downs of having a multi-decade career in the art world and why she is leaving it all behind.

She shares her experience getting diagnosed with cancer, her subsequent recovery, and how she came to her new career path in psychedelic therapies.

About Delia Brown

Delia Brown's work is primarily engaged in exploring desire as an individuated experience that connects the personal to the collective unconscious, often mediated through advertising and commercial culture. Referencing early bourgeois painting genres, she paints herself and her friends enacting their fantasies of being part of the leisure class, with props from snacks and beverages to million-dollar artworks functioning as important accessories in the assumption of privilege.

Show Notes

  • Delia Brown http://www.deliabrown.net/
  • The review Charles Labelle: https://www.frieze.com/article/delia-brown
  • UCLA Doctor Sued for Harassing Patients
  • Whole Foods Parking lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UFc1pr2yUU
  • Revenge of the Black Prius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idG_Odfk9fI
  • CIIS https://www.ciis.edu/

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This week Sarah reads for artist, activist, and podcast host Nikki Nolan. They talk about how to break from the patterns of perfectionism and let your inner Leo take center stage.

Show Notes

  • Instagram: @thenikkinolan
  • TikTok: @theonlynikkinolan
  • Get your human design chart https://www.ihdschool.com/get-your-chart
  • The AI, Data, Ethics, Privacy & Security Association:https://theassociation.ai/
  • https://www.instagram.com/thenikkinolan

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This week Sarah talks with Ranu Mukherjee, a professor at California College of the Arts and a prolific artist in many different mediums including painting and new media installations.  During our chat they talk a lot about Ranu's Indian ancestry and how that has influenced her work and her outlook as an artist. They also talk about her more recent challenges with addiction in her family and the EMDR treatments that she did to heal from them. About Ranu MukherjeeRanu Mukherjee’s work has been the subject of solo exhibitions at the 18th Street Arts Center, Los Angeles (2022-2023) de Young Museum, San Francisco (2018-2019); the Pennsylvania College of Art and Design (2017);  the Asian Art Museum, San Francisco (2016); the Tarble Art Center, Charleston, IL (2016) and the San Jose Museum of Art, CA (2012), among others. Her most recent immersive video installations have been was presented in Natasha, Singapore Biennale 2022-2023, the 2019 Karachi Biennale (2019) and Los Angeles County Museum of Art (2016) as well as in numerous international group exhibitions. Mukherjee has been awarded a Pollock Krasner Grant (2020); a Lucas Visual Arts Fellowship at Montalvo Arts Center, Saratoga, CA (2019-2022); an 18th Street Arts Center Residency, Los Angeles (2022); Facebook Artist in Residence (2020);  de Young Museum Artist Studio Program (2017); the Space 118 Residency, Mumbai (2014); and a Kala Fellowship Award and Residency, Berkeley (2009). Her work is in the permanent collection of the Asian Art Museum, San Francisco; de Young Museum, San Francisco; the JP Morgan Chase Collection, New York; the Kadist Foundation, San Francisco and Paris; the Oakland Museum of California; the San Jose Museum of Art; and the San Francisco International Airport, among others. Reserve your spot for the upcoming live event in San Francisco at the ICA SF about creativity and what blocks it. November 5, 3-5pm https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-side-woo-ica-sf-a-live-talk-about-creativity-and-what-blocks-it-tickets-729930229967Show Notes Ranu's Website https://www.ranumukherjee.com/about A+P+I Residency at Mills College https://mcam.mills.edu/exhibitions/api-current1.php--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesidewoo/message

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For the first Artist Tarot Reading episode, Sarah does a reading for LA artist and curator Vivien Chung who is wondering about making a big career move. You can check out Vivien's work on her website http://www.vivienchung.com/ and her Instagram https://www.instagram.com/vivienpaints/

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This week Sarah talks with Sonny Smith about the creative process and what he has learned about sustaining inspiration for his music over multiple decades and many style changes. Recorded at The Space Program in July 2023.About Sonny SmithSonny Smith (born 1972) is an American musician, playwright and multimedia artist from San Francisco. He has released fourteen albums since 2000, largely with group Sonny & The Sunsets. His work has variously encompassed blues, folk, pop and rock elements. AllMusic noted that his 2002 album, This Is My Story, This Is My Song, lifted him from obscurity to cult status.

Smith is a songwriter in the tradition of Ray Davies whose songs are often populated by characters with an emphasis on outcasts, weirdos, freaks, death, love and atypical transformation. They sometimes recall the 1950s era doo wop of The Falcons combined with the direct sincerity and positive spirit of Modern Lovers’ Jonathan Richman, the kitchen sink wisdom of Michael Hurley and the absurdity of The Hairy Who? art collective, as well as the dark confessional humor of cartoonists like Robert Crumb.

Show Notes

  • Artist Page on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/artist/189npwiCoBxlFNEDfiOtqu?si=KSrcJlFiQeiOAo65bcuriQ
  • Pitchfork Review of A New Day With Possibilities https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/sonny-and-the-sunsets-new-day-with-new-possibilities/

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  • This week, Sarah talks with Bay Area artist and tatooist Christopher Martin who was a resident at The Space Program in San Francisco this summer. About Christopher MartinChristopher Martin is a multidisciplinary artist from North Carolina exploring the African Diaspora and Indigenous histories. Driven by a desire to push cultural narratives, Martin confronts aesthetic perceptions of contemporary injustice. Cotton fibers are the primary medium of storytelling in order to reclaim the roots of the Atlantic slave trade. Christopher’s hand-cut and sewn monumental tapestry banners in contrasted black and white images tell a surreal story of religion, captivity, and freedom. He has been awarded the first-ever Artist-In-Residence from the Museum of African Diaspora (MoAD AIR 2018), Inaugural Artist for ICA San Francisco Museum (2022), along with lectures both in the United States and Internationally.Show Notes & Sources Flaneur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fl%C3%A2neur Situationists International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International Derive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9rive BART running through neighborhoods https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/05/07/oakland-freeways-environmental-justice/ BART / Redlining source 2 https://projects.journalism.berkeley.edu/7thstreet-archive/category/topics/3.
  • Open eye meditation - Andrew Huberman, Stanford University
  • Neuroscience Podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTBSGgbIvsY
  • Daylight before 10am -Andrew Huberman, Stanford University
  • Neuroscience Podcast https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O4gDJrTV3P4

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This week is an off week, so I thought I would take it as an opportunity to share another project I work on called Free Agent. As part of my substack newsletter, Art Date, every month I record interviews with artists, writers, musicians, and other creative folk who have stepped outside the traditional career models to carve out their own path. Was it good? Was it bad? I want to hear about it. This episode is an interview I did with a previous guest of The Side Woo, Nicole Mueller of the Beyond The Studio podcast. I interview about hand constructing a mosaic for a large-scale public art project she did in Tempe, AZ. This is definitely more hands on than most artists who hire a fabrication studio to produce their mosaic for them.

To watch the video interview and see behind-the-scenes photos, go to https://artdate.substack.com/p/free-agent-nicole-mueller-on-how

Right now I am running a promotion. Free Agent interviews are typically for paid subscribers only, but as a way to share what I am learning with a new audience and get people caught up with my archive of interviews, I am offering full access to all my content for the next two months - ending at the end of September. Starting October 1st, if you’d like to check out Free Agent, you can support my Substack at either $6/ month or $50/a year. Or, if you’d like to become a foundational member with a minimum donation of $250/year you’ll receive a framed, limited-edition print of one of my paintings. Go to my substack about page to learn more - artdate.substack.com/about If you’re a member of Medium.com you can also follow me there as a paid member which is $5/month but gets you unlimited access to all the content on the platform. Find me at ⁠medium.com/@sarahthibault

I’ll be back next week with The Side Woo. I’ll be interviewing the wise and talented artist Christopher Martin so stay tuned for that. Thank you for listening!

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Sarah talks with Bay Area artist Jud Bergeron, the co-founder of The Space Program where the episode is being recorded in San Francisco, CA. This episode covers a lot of ground, but the main throughline is talking about how to cultivate personal freedom, for yourself and how to offer space and resources for others to experience it too.  Other topics include following the Grateful Dead on tour (for years), using psychedelics, close calls with serial killers, getting California sober, and what it’s like running a residency from behind the scenes.

About Jud Bergeron

Jud Bergeron is a Bay Area sculptor residing in San Francisco, his sculpture has been exhibited through out North America with a focus on New York and San Francisco. Bergeron works in myriad styles and materials but generally gravitates towards permanent materials such as bronze, stainless steel, and mild steel. Bergeron has been awarded public art commissions in a number of cities around the country and his sculpture has been in museum shows and is included in many important private collections. In addition to his practice, Bergeron is co-founder and director of The Space Program SF, an artist in residency program in San Francisco. Jud Bergeron is represented by Nancy Toomey Fine Art in San Francisco and Gallery Poulsen in Copenhagen, Denmark.

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Sarah sits down with Bay Area artist Ron Moultrie Saunders to talk about the ways in which he cultivates and tends to his many communities, with a focus on supporting African American artists in San Francisco through projects like the Black [Space] Residency and the 3.9 Collective. We talk ancestry.com, giant plants, and what it means to get art to communities who don't usually go to museums through public art. This interview was recorded at The Space Program residency.

About Ron Moultrie Saunders

Ron Moultrie Saunders, a co-founding member of the 3.9 Art Collective, is a photographic artist and landscape architect. Originally from Jamaica, Queens, New York, he currently lives in the Bayview neighborhood of San Francisco. He creates photograms: photographs that are made without the use of a camera. His art work is in the San Francisco Arts Commission Civic Art Collection for projects he completed for the San Francisco Library, Linda Brooks-Burton Bayview Branch, Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, Laguna Honda Hospital and, Public Utilities Commission New Headquarters in San Francisco. He was commissioned to create works for VM Ware, Inc. in Palo Alto, CA and Dallas, TX and, for The San Francisco Travel Association (formerly SF Convention and Visitors Bureau) new offices. His art has been exhibited throughout the US including “The Secret Life of Plants”, solo shows (San Francisco International Airport and CordenPotts Gallery, San Francisco, CA), and group shows "Echoes of Bauhaus Photography Cast Long Shadows" at Ruth's Table, San Francisco, California (2020),“Self:Scape” at Middlesex County College, New Jersey(2012), “Exposed: Today’s Photography/Yesterday’s Technology” (San Jose Institute of Contemporary Art), “Measure of Time”(Oakland Museum of California at City Center). His work is published in several books including “Self Exposure: The Male Nude Self-Portrait” and “From Art to Landscape”. Recently he completed an artist-in-residence at STAR (Shipyard Trust for the Arts) in the Hunter’s Point Shipyard in San Francisco. His studio is located at Minnesota Street Project Studio in the Dogpatch area of San Francisco.

Show Notes

  • ronmsaunders.com
  • Instagram
  • 3.9 Collective
  • Black [Space] Residency
  • Minnesota Street Project
  • Discussion Around Black Reparations in San Francisco

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In this episode, Sarah talks with podcast host, psychotherapist, and tarot aficionado Shannon Knight of The Tarot Diagnosis Podcast. They discuss synchronicities, the collective unconscious, and ways to engage with tarot beyond traditional divination.

About Shannon Knight
Shannon Knight (she/her) is a queer psychotherapist licensed in both Arizona and Florida where she specializes in working with individuals and couples. Shannon received her B.A. in Applied Clinical Psychology from the Florida Institute of Technology and her M.S. in Mental Health Counseling from Johns Hopkins University. She is the host of The Tarot Diagnosis Podcast and creator/facilitator of The Symposium community where she invites folks to meet at the intersection of tarot and mental health to explore tarot’s inherent psychological function of promoting self-reflection and healing.

Show notes

  • Instagram @TheTarotDiagnosis
  • www.TheTarotDiagnosis.com
  • Tarot & The Hero's Journey Workshop through The Side Woo
  • Rachel Pollack - 78 Degrees of Wisdom
  • Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT)

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This is the first of 10 episodes that I recorded and produced at The Space Program Residency in San Francisco. The first in the series is a conversation with artist and educator Libby Black. We talk about sobriety, lesbian visibility, teaching before and after the pandemic, and that time she swam The Rock, yes Alcatraz.

About Libby Black

Libby Blackis a painter, drawer, and sculptural installation artist living in Berkeley, CA. Her artwork charts a path through personal history and a broader cultural context to explore the intersection of politics, feminism, LGBTQ+ identity, consumerism, addiction, notions of value, and desire. She has exhibited nationally and internationally, with such shows as “California Love” at Galerie Droste in Wupertal, Germany; “Bay Area Now 4” at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts; “California Biennial” at the Orange County Museum of Art; and at numerous galleries in New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. Black has been an artist-in-residence at Headlands Center for the Arts in Sausalito, CA; Montalvo Arts Center in Saratoga, CA; and Spaces in Cleveland, OH. Her work has been reviewed in Artforum, Art in America, ARTnews, Flash Art, and The New York Times. She received a BFA from the Cleveland Institute of Art in 1999 and an MFA at the California College of the Arts in 2001. Libby is an Assistant Professor at San Francisco State University.


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For this week’s episode, Sarah talks with artist Rachelle Reichert. Rachelle shares more information about her process, her undying interest in rocks, and what she does to stay positive despite the bleak news around the climate crisis and industrialization.

About Rachelle Reichert Rachelle Reichert is a visual artist and art educator based in the San Francisco Bay Area, California (Chochenyo Ohlone territory). Rachelle works in a variety of media to explore landscapes permanently altered by climate change and industrialization. She is interested in earth observation satellite imagery- how nature is composed in images and then circulated to a public, algorithmic visions, and natural systems to view how nature is manipulated by human behavior. Her research focuses on sites of specific extracted materials: salt, clay, lithium. Research findings are interpreted through drawings, photographs, and mixed-media artworks that focus on materials found at the site. Artworks embody multi-scale complexities of observing the natural world, both human and machine, and the emotional connections between the two. Artwork is included in many public and private collections, including the Center for Art+Environment Archives at the Nevada Museum of Art, the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art Archive, the School of the Art Institute of Chicago Library, Facebook, and Adobe, Inc. Reichert has exhibited her work nationally and internationally at the Contemporary Jewish Museum, Center for Contemporary Art at Pacific Northwest College of Art, Anglim/Trimble Gallery, and September Gallery. Her work has been reviewed and published in the San Francisco Chronicle, Make: Magazine, Condé Nast Traveler and New American Paintings and she has completed permanent commissions for the Ritz Mandarin Oriental in Madrid, Spain and Facebook Headquarters in Menlo Park, CA. She has presented her artwork at the California Climate Change Symposium, the San Francisco State of the Estuary Conference, and the American Geophysical Union Meeting and regularly lectures on her artwork and research.  


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For this week’s episode, Sarah talks with researcher Tracy Poff who is doing her PhD on Medical Intuitives. After visiting a medical medium for an unexplained illness in her family, she felt compelled to study transpersonal psychology and then pursue her doctorate in medical intuitive practices. We talk about what exactly that is, how to discern a good one when meeting someone for the first time, and a general discussion of how intuition can inform all our decisions to make us more in tune with ourselves - a favorite topic on The Side Woo.

About Tracy L. W. Poff

Tracy L. W. Poff is a student of Life whose work in the world is to infuse everyday living with the light of divine context. She holds an MBA in Finance from The Wharton School, and an MA in Spiritual Psychology from the University of Santa Monica. Straddling the worlds of intellect and intuition, Tracy is a soul-centered guide whose quest and teaching is to know thyself. She is currently a Ph.D. student in the Transpersonal Psychology program at Sofia University in Palo Alto, California, and the focus of her doctoral research is medical intuition, also known as medical clairvoyance. Medical intuition is a perceptual skill that uses non-local awareness, or extrasensory perception, to assess health conditions of another person. The phenomenon of medical intuition is a fresh area of study within academics and through her work, Tracy hopes to deepen understanding and raise awareness of our intuitive capacity as human beings.

Show Notes

  • Author of Living Deeply, Marilyn Schlitz https://marilynschlitz.com/writing/#writing-books
  • NOMI, an organization recently launched to bring standards to the field of medical intuition: https://www.nomimedicalintuition.org
  • Art Date Substack artdate.substack.com
  • Wave Collective
  • Space Program SF - Artist Residency

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Sarah talks with artist and activist Amy M. Ho. Amy talks about her work as an art teacher for an art-in-prison program at San Quentin Correctional Facility and how in 2021, her father was tragically killed during a mugging in downtown Oakland. Amy shares how her background in social justice activism with the prison system, has reinforced her belief in restorative justice, despite being touched personally by violent crime.

About Amy M. Ho

Amy M. Ho builds video and spatial installations that bring attention to our existence as both physical and psychological beings. Amy completed her undergraduate degree in Art Practice at University of California, Berkeley and her MFA at Mills College in Oakland, CA. She was selected as a KQED Woman to Watch in 2017, received a San Francisco Arts Commission Individual Artists Grant in 2013 and once won a costume contest at Emmy's Spaghetti Shack dressed as a fusilli pasta. Amy was included in Yerba Buena Center for the Arts' Bay Area Now 7 in 2014 and was a 2013 fellowship artist at the Kala Art Institute in Berkeley, CA. She has previously exhibited at the San Jose Institute for Contemporary Art, the Contemporary Jewish Museum in San Francisco, CA, the Elmhurst Art Museum in Elmhurst, IL, and at the San Diego State University Downtown Art Gallery. Amy is a trustee at OUTPOST in Norwich, UK. She lives in Bozeman, MT and is currently designing a board game about dogs.

Show notes

  • Amy M. Ho website
  • Amy's Royal NoneSuch Gallery project: Spaces from Yesterday
  • Art Date Substack

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This week, to kick off Pride Month, Liz and Sarah talk with trans artist, Eli Thorne. We talk with Eli about his experience coming out and transitioning as a trans man, dating as a man for the first time on the hellscape known as Tinder (where he ended up finding love), the Faustian bargain of Instagram success, and how he feels about becoming a dad with his long-time partner.

About Eli Thorne

Eli Thorne was b.1986 in Harrogate, England, and raised in the mountains of Santa

Cruz, California. He received his BFA at UC Berkeley. Later received his MFA from Mills

College. As a trans paitnter and sculptor, his art practice aims to reconcile and negotiate

his own sense of and relationship to manhood. His work has been shown in various

spaces in the Bay Area; Mills College Art Museum, Southern Exposure, Root Division,

Gallery 16, Anglim Gilbert Gallery, Royal Nonesuch Gallery, and Et Al. He has given

talks at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts and UC Berkeley and was a featured artist in

the KQED Artist series Redefining Pride. Eli currently lives and maintains his art

practice in Upstate, NY.

Show notes

  • Eli's Instagram
  • Eli's show at Royal Nonesuch Gallery, "Yellow #5, Bruh"
  • Zencastr for audio and video recording
  • Tech For Campaigns

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Darrow Bernstein

Sound & Content editing: Sarah Thibault

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This week on The Side Woo Sarah talks with musician and songwriter, Inara George. Inara shares her experience growing older as a cis woman and as an artist. They talk about what it means to embody beauty as a woman and whether getting older might mean stepping away from the spotlight, and taking on more of a mentorship role to younger generations. About Inara GeorgeInara George is an American singer-songwriter and musician, one half of The Bird and the Bee, a member of the band Merrick, with Bryony Atkinson, and a member of the trio The Living Sisters, with Eleni Mandell and Becky Stark.Show Notes Inara George Instagram Website The Bird and the Bee⁠ Merrick The Living Sisters⁠About The Side WooHost & Creator: Sarah ThibaultSound & Content editing: Sarah ThibaultIntro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio JungleSound Effect from PixabayThe Side Woo is a podcast created through The Side Woo Collective. To learn more go to thesidewoo.comFor questions, comments, press, or sponsorships you can email thesidewoo@gmail.com--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesidewoopodcast/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thesidewoopodcast/support

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This week Sarah talks with friend of the show, Rachel Dawson. Rachel shares the way her connection to her intuition has evolved throughout her life.

About Rachel Dawson

Rachel Dawson is an artist, educator, and intuitive located in Oakland, CA. She makes connections between her artistic practice and metaphysical processes, seeking to render the invisible visible and to materialize the immaterial. She is interested in how spiritual wellness practices are attached to a “feminine” space, such as the history of witchcraft and its connection to agency, medicines, and

power objects. As an artist, she sees her role as a medium within the feminized space of her intuitive practice and the process of art-making.

Raised in Southern California, she has spent the last two decades in the San Francisco Bay Area. When she is not in the studio making art, she is teaching art to gifted middle school and high school students. She received her MFA from the California College of the Arts in San Francisco, after she received her BFA in Painting and Drawing from the University of San Francisco. Her work has been

exhibited in the US, Mexico, and Canada.

Show notes

  • Rachel Dawson’s Instagram & Website
  • SMART Recovery & Al Anon
  • Sedona vortexes
  • What causes Northern Lights
  • The Center for New Age UFO Tours
  • Art Date with Sarah Thibault

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound & Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

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This week Sarah sits down with Bay Area artist, Rebekah Goldstein. They talk about the way we define success and failures and look back at an ArtForum article, The Loser Thing, which examines a period in the 90s where failure was at the forefront of people's minds. Sarah and Rebekah discuss whether failure, and it's artistic counterpoint, the masterpiece, are useful in terms of how we look at art. Rebekah shares how her experience becoming a mother and how that transformed her painting.

The Side Woo is now a weekly podcast! Join us every Thursday for ghost stories, mental health confessions and a look at the unseen forces that shape our reality. Follow Sarah's new substack, Art Date, for a weekly behind-the-scenes look at the episodes, along with weekly blog posts about being an artist in LA, finding inspiration and staving off burn-out, as well as other goodies. Subscribing to the newsletter is free. Go to artdate.substack.com.

Show Notes

  • Website
  • Instagram
  • Art Date Substack

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound & Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

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About Kelly Lynn Jones

Kelly Lynn Jones (b. 1977 Los Angeles, CA) is a Los Angeles-based artist. She earned a BFA and MFA from the California College of the Arts in San Francisco. Jones has shown her work in multiple group exhibitions including The Pit, La Loma Projects, The Lab, Kala Art Institute, The Berkeley Museum, Southern Exposure, Bedford Gallery, NURTUREart, and Charlotte Street Foundation. Her work has been highlighted in The Wing’s 2020 publication, San Francisco Chronicle, and Museums Press. Kelly Lynn Jones is represented by The Pit, Los Angeles.

Show Notes

  • Kelly Lynn Jone's Website
  • KLJ Instagram
  • The Pit
  • Ouija Boards
  • RIP Little Paper Planes - from the Mission Local

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound & Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

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About Elisabeth Elektra

Glasgow-based musician Elisabeth Elektra (she/they) delivers poignant, deeply melodic art-pop anthems. Elektra released their self-produced debut ‘Mercurial’ in 2020 to widespread critical acclaim. Something spectacular, and something different...that’s the best way of describing the music of Elisabeth Elektra. A songwriter, producer, and performer drawing from the cosmic and the familiar to create pop music that’s as addictive and spine-tingling as the stories we’ve been telling for centuries.

Show Notes

  • New single "The Dream"
  • Elisabeth Elektra Instagram
  • Elisabeth Elektra Twitter

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah ThibaultHost: Elizabeth BernsteinSound & Content editing: Sarah ThibaultIntro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle, Sound Effect from PixabayThe Side Woo is a podcast created through The Side Woo Collective. To learn more go to thesidewoo.comFor questions, comments, press, or sponsorships you can email thesidewoo@gmail.com

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This week we talk with the prolific Carissa Potter. She’s the founder of People I’ve Loved, and the host of the podcast Bad at Keeping Secrets. Carissa’s illustrations are gentle line drawings that tackle big subjects like emotional messiness, boundaries, and the search for meaning in a wild, imperfect world. Her newsletter and podcast interviews get into the nitty gritty of what it means to be alive and exist in a body while embodying the different roles of woman, mother, wife, and artist. We talk about much of this and more in our episode while unpacking the structures and systems we use to try and make sense of it all.

About Carissa Potter

Carissa Potter is a human longing for connection. She writes books, makes art & public commissions, and hosts the series Bad At Keeping Secrets (one of Substack’s featured newsletters of 2022) where she talks to other humans about the mess of being alive. Carissa is the founder of People I’ve Loved, the author of three books, one of AdAge’s 24 Most Inspiring People of 2021, and one of Cosmo Magazine’s 24 people making the world a better place. She lives in Oakland California with her daughter, partner, dad, and neighborhood cats.

Show Notes

  • Bad At Keeping Secrets⁠ Newsletter and Podcast
  • People I’ve Loved⁠ Brand

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound & Content editing: Sarah Thibault

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In this episode, Patron Saint of The Side Woo, Nikki Nolan shares her story about how she began advocating for patient rights, specifically a requirement for stricter regulations around medical consent. After a traumatic experience with a Bay Area medical facility in which her requests for an all-female staff during an ob-gyn procedure were denied, Nikki began researching how to implement policies that favor the agency of patients within medical institutions. Sarah shares her own traumatic experiences within the medical industry. And Nikki and Sarah discuss the benefits of having an internal locus of control on one's sense of self-worth, and self-efficacy and how patient consent will help to further that in vulnerable populations.

About Nikki Nolan

Nikki Nolan is a conceptual artist, designer, and podcaster based in Oakland, CA. Her thought-provoking work tackles important social issues, exemplified in her two podcasts, "Matter of Life and Debt" and "Disability Bandwidth". Nikki holds a master's degree in art with a specialization in interactive media from Pratt Institute, where she explored the effects of online media on human memory. She also has a bachelor's degree in sculpture and photography and a certificate in web development. Through her passion for art, design, and podcasting, Nikki Nolan inspires others to innovate with her unique perspective.

Show Notes

  • https://nnolan.com/
  • Nikki Nolan's Instagram ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thenikkinolan/⁠⁠
  • Nikki Nolan's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikkinolan/⁠
  • Matter of Life and Debt Podcast https://matteroflifeanddebt.com/
  • Disability Bandwidth Podcast https://disabilitybandwidth.com/

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound & Content editing: Sarah Thibault

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This week on The Side Woo, we talk with Adobe Books Director, former SECA Coordinator, and long-time Bay Area native Heather Holt. The conversation looks at what it means to be queen of a scene, and what it was like on the outside after Heather left her former husband for a married man. Plus, bonus shout out to Valley Girl culture.

About Heather Holt

Heather Holt graduated from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago with an emphasis in photography and performance. She currently oversees all aspects of Adobe Books organizational systems including volunteer scheduling, operating all aspects of business management, community relations, book scouting, curating, conflict management, grant writing and PR. Heather was formerly the ED of ArtSpan, the producers of SF Open Studios where she reversed a three year budget deficit and launched a strategic planning process with the staff, community served and BOD to strengthen and enrich the impact the organization has on sustaining local and regional California artists. Prior to ArtSpan, Heather worked at the SFMOMA from 2004-2010 as the SECA Coordinator - supporting the museum's art award and exhibition program for local, Bay Area artists. Heather volunteered as a Summer Teachers Assistant at Lilydale Spiritualist Community in Upstate NY and has participated as SEVA for the Spirit Weavers Gathering in Southern Oregon. She enjoys tarot, astral travel, meditation and writing. When she is not working, you will find her dancing midweek at the clubs, cooking and hanging out with her family. She lives part time in San Francisco, Sonoma Valley and Upstate NY.

Show Notes

  • Adobe Books
  • SECA Award with SFMOMA

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound & Content editing: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle, Sound Effect from Pixabay

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The Side Woo is excited to announce our new online workshops and The Collective Memberships which launches March 1st. Go to thesidewoo.com to learn more and join as a Member, free for the first month.  We will return to our normal podcasting schedule March 9th, 2023. 

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Our guest this week, Dr. Raghu Appasani, an integrative & addiction psychiatrist, psychotherapist, and neuroscientist, is trying to revolutionize mental health from the inside out. We unpack alternative modes of healing and how can we start to transform the way mental health is diagnosed and treated. He shares his work serving as the Chief Medical Officer of PYM (Prepare Your Mind), a wellness brand that produces supplements based on amino acids to support mental health, and why they work.

About Raghu Appasani

Dr. Raghu Kiran Appasani is an Integrative Psychiatrist, Neuroscientist, and Social Entrepreneur focused on bridging the gap between western and eastern practices to create a wholesome society by taking a proactive approach to health. Currently, he is an Addiction Psychiatry Fellow at the University of California-San Francisco where is also a member of the TrPR (Translational Psychedelic Research Program) team where he is focusing on the treatment of mental illness using psilocybin. His current interests lie at the intersection of psychodynamic psychotherapy, integrative/nutritional psychiatry, mental health literacy, advocacy, wellness, entrepreneurship, and psychedelics. His alter-ego's life goal is to become a chef integrating farm-to-table experiences in stunning landscapes around the world.

Show Notes

  • Raghu's website
  • Prepare Your Mind (PYM)
  • The MINDS Foundation
  • The Mood Cure: The 4-Step Program to Take Charge of Your Emotions--Today by Julia Ross

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound & Content editing: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

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The Side Woo talks with Rachel Howe, an LA-based witch, healer and illustrator of the Small Spells tarot deck about her book Witch Ethics.  They talk astrology, mercury in Pisces and the importance of creating good energetic boundaries between you and the (spirit) world.

Rachel is a Los Angeles-based illustrator, reiki healer, stick and poke tattoo artist, a potter, a tarot card reader, and a writer. 

Show Notes

  • Rachel Howe / Small Spells Instagram
  • SmallSpells.com

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault 

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing: Sarah Thibault

Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

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This week's episode we get into a discussion about whether reincarnation is real with our guest, Spiritualist Minister Cody Blair. We also talk about his issues with hierarchy in the Spiritualist church, and what he wants to do about it.  About Cody BlairCody Blair is a Psychic-Medium that has worked in many Spiritualist churches and circles throughout his home state of Texas, the United States, and Canada. He led a very successful Mediumship development circle for 10 years in his hometown of Austin, Texas and several of his students have moved into successful careers as metaphysical ministers and owners of their own Spiritual consulting businesses. Cody is a graduate of New Mexico State University with a degree in History, Holy Trinity Seminary with letters in philosophy, and Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary with letters in Theology. He is the owner of Two Worlds Spiritual Consulting (Mediumship business) co-owner of Apothecary Arcānus, LLC (a spiritual goods and supply company), and is the registered agent and founding minister of the Independent Association of Spiritualist Churches (a democratic fellowship of credentialed Spiritualist workers and churches). Cody currently resides in Houston, Texas with his two cats Czarah (pronounced Zar Ah) and Lughnasadh (pronounced Loo Nass Aah), and his best friend and business partner Stephanie. Show NotesContact Cody for a reading at codyblr@icloud.com Instagram: @katholicoscody About The Side WooHost & Executive Producer: Sarah Thibault Host: Elizabeth BernsteinSound Mixing: Alexey TuranovContent editing: Sarah ThibaultIntro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio JungleThe Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a metaphysical hub collective. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to https://ninaarnette.co.For questions, comments, press, or sponsorships you can email thesidewoo@gmail.com--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thesidewoopodcast/message

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We invite back photographer and spiritualism scholar Shannon Taggert to tell us her stories about Freddie Mercury from the Spiritualism community. She tells us celebrity ghost stories about Freddie, Michael Jackson, Benjamin Franklin, and Elvis. Plus, we dish on the idea of sex with ghosts ( first dibs on Sex With Ghosts as a band name).

About Shannon Taggart

Shannon Taggart is an artist and author based in St. Paul, MN. In a past life, she contributed to printed publications, including TIME, Newsweek, New York Times Magazine, Discover, New York, Wall Street Journal, and Reader’s Digest. Her photographs have been exhibited internationally and recognized by PDN, Nikon, Magnum Photos + Inge Morath Foundation, American Photography, International Photography Awards, and the Alexia Foundation for World Peace. Her first monograph, SÉANCE (Fulgur Press, 2019), was named ‘One of the Best Photobooks of 2019’ by TIME and will be re-released by Atelier Éditions in December 2022. Currently, Shannon is working on an illustrated book about The Society for Research on Rapport and Telekinesis (SORRAT), one of the most exotic cases in the history of psychical research.

Show Notes

https://www.shannontaggart.com/

Elvis Afterlife, the Unusual Psychic Experiences Surrounding The Death of a Superstar by Raymond Moody

Everything You Need to Know About Ghost Sex via The Cut (paywall)

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing: Sarah Thibault

Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company and metaphysical hub. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to https://ninaarnette.co.

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About Amelia Whitehouse

Hello! I am Amelia of The Carnelian Keep- a Tarot Reader, Dream Interpreter, Events coordinator, Podcaster, Illustrator, Tarot Teacher, Writer, and astrology enthusiast- living and working in sexy Edinburgh, Scotland. I have been reading and studying Tarot cards for over 20 years, reading for friends for 12 years, reading for clients in Edinburgh (and globally) for 7 years and teaching Tarot online for 2 years. During that time I have read cards at countless events, in shops, at hen parties, in cars and, through the magic of technology for people all over the world! Astrology is a part of my practice that I value immensely and is such a vast topic of study and discussion that I am learning more about it all the time. I love learning from other Tarot readers, astrologers, and diviners – my Libra Stellium and I believe that a strong magickal community is key to keeping the craft alive and well.

Show Notes

  • Amelia / Carnelian Keep on Instagram
  • Carnelian Keep (book a tarot reading with Amelia)
  • Tarot Is F*cking Cool the Podcast

About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing: Sarah Thibault

Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company and metaphysical hub. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to https://ninaarnette.co.

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Erica Wallace Moore is an Usui-trained Reiki Master Instructor. She conducts in-person and Remote Reiki sessions with included intuitive guided conversation. She specializes is providing a safe and welcoming environment to utilize relaxation as a focus to connect with inner being and Spirit. She listens and helps to clear energetic blockages, helps clients to discover the vibrational energetic self, and to focus on intention setting for the life and well-being most desired.

Show Notes:

  • Erica Wallace Moore website
  • "Los Desparecidos" on Watson Review
  • National Alliance on Mental Illness
  • What is Reiki

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About The Side Woo

Host & Creator: Sarah Thibault

Host: Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing: Sarah Thibault

Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

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Kate Rhoades’ lives and works in Oakland, California. Her videos, paintings and publications probe the ever-mutating art world. Her work has been presented in the San Francisco International Film Festival and the Santa Fe International New Media Festival. Rhoades has participated in exhibitions at Trestle Gallery in Brooklyn, Southern Exposure in San Francisco, and various venues, publications, hotel rooms and alleyways across North America and Europe. Since 2014 she has co-hosted the Bay Area's number one arts and culture podcast, Congratulations Pine Tree. Rhoades is also one of the Fleishhacker Foundation's Eureka Fellowship grantees for 2018.

  • Kate Rhoades website
  • Kate Rhoades Instagram
  • Congratulations Pine Tree
  • Maysoun Wazwaz, co-host on Congratulations Pine Tree
  • Required Skimming
  • Julia Bryan-Wilson
  • Death of An Artist
  • Ana Mendieta

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About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing: Sarah Thibault

Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

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About Shannon Taggart Shannon Taggart is an artist and author based in St. Paul, MN. In a past life, she contributed to printed publications, including TIME, Newsweek, New York Times Magazine, Discover, New York, Wall Street Journal, and Reader’s Digest. Her photographs have been exhibited internationally and recognized by PDN, Nikon, Magnum Photos + Inge Morath Foundation, American Photography, International Photography Awards, and the Alexia Foundation for World Peace. Her first monograph, SÉANCE (Fulgur Press, 2019), was named ‘One of the Best Photobooks of 2019’ by TIME and will be re-released by Atelier Éditions in December 2022. Currently, Shannon is working on an illustrated book about The Society for Research on Rapport and Telekinesis (SORRAT), one of the most exotic cases in the history of psychical research. Show notes: 

Pre-order Shannon Taggart: Seance in its 2nd print. The first edition was reviewed as ‘One of the Best Photobooks of 2019’— TIME https://www.shannontaggart.com/ Spiritualism  Lily Dale, NY: Western New York's home for mediumship and spiritual healing since 1879. Oscar Gustav Rejlander - the father of art photography


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About Jesse Bransford

Jesse Bransford is a New York-based artist whose work is exhibited internationally at venues including The Carnegie Museum of Art, the UCLA Hammer Museum, PS 1 Contemporary Art Center and the CCA Wattis Museum among others. He holds degrees from the New School for Social Research (BA), Parsons School of Design (BFA) and Columbia University (MFA). An associate professor of art at New York University, Bransford's work has been involved with belief and the visual systems it creates since the 1990s. Recent work has focused on the folk magic of the Norse traditions, specifically the talismanic stave spells and the seiðr traditions. Parts of this work are collected in the recently published book from Fulgur Press, “A Book of Staves (Galdrastafabók).” He lectures widely on his work and the topics surrounding his work. He is the co-organizer of the biennial Occult Humanities Conference and an editorial member of the Black Mirror Network.

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About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing: Sarah Thibault

Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

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Michael Scott Moore is a journalist and author of three books. His most celebrated book, The Desert & The Sea recounts the three years he spent captured by Somali pirates off the coast of Somalia. Once he returned to civilian life, Scott began to unpack his experience, which he writes about in his book.

On this episode of The Side Woo, Moore talks about his long-time love of surfing and how it has helped him cope with PTSD in the years since he returned from Somalia. What he was interested to discover more is that Surf Therapy, or Ocean Therpay, as it is informally called, is now being used to successfully treat 1000s of veterans and abuse victims around the world. Sarah continues to unpack her own experiences with PTSD and OCD. The Michael and The Side Woo gals consider how to create a neutral framework for challenging emotions.

Show Notes

  • Michael Scott Moore Instagram
  • The Desert and the Sea: 977 Days Captive on the Somali Pirate Coast
  • Sweetness and Blood: How Surfing Spread from Hawaii and California to the Rest of the World, with Some Unexpected Results
  • Fresh Air Episode
  • The Write Salon
  • What is a Jungian?
  • Suicide hotline: (US) text 988 or call +1-800-273-8255 24-hours a day

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About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing: Sarah Thibault

Content editing: Sarah Thibault

Intro and outro music: LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

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This week on the show, guest Desiree Holman.  Holman is a former art-star turned Nurse Practitioner-in-training. As the Founder of Face, a radical wellness clinic in Oakland, CA, she is trying to help people cultivate better relationships to their appearance through body-positive, age-positive and gender-affirming wellness services.  During their conversation, Desiree and The Side Woo unpack issues around physical beauty that are both personal and taking place on a larger, socio-political scale. 

About Desiree Holman Hi, I’m Desiree. I adore my clients and the non-invasive well-aging products & services I offer. FACE, my beauty, and wellness business established in 2019, is all about empowering you to fall in love with yourself through art and science. The FACE experience is based on a one-on-one connection. I listen deeply and carefully to ensure that each client feels seen, heard, and understood. From there, I call on the full force of my intelligence, which includes many years of experience, advanced training, and natural artistry, to help achieve the desired results. I only offer services that I can personally attest to and truly believe in because they deliver amazing results. I know because I have extensively tested every single service FACE offers on myself. Before starting FACE, I enjoyed a career as an artist and art professor for over a decade. Creating a business focused on diverse corporal beauty is a natural extension of my lifelong passions and a new way for me to engage my artistry. FACE believes beauty is a natural after-effect of a body, mind, & spirit that are deeply nourished and well cared for. With a focus on self-care, we can step away from a historical & tyrannical beauty standard. Beauty ideals are an extension of the profound truth that our image and our body are our own to do with as we please.  There is no one formula to beauty; there is only what makes you feel good. Join us in creating a well-aging beauty utopia where grey hair, fat bodies, dark skin, gender non-conformity, & the natural process of aging are desirable.

Show Notes  FACE website FACE Instagram Arthur Danto

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After a long hot summer and a few weeks off, Sarah and Liz reunite to check in about their emotional and spiritual development.  

Show Notes

  • Wild Hearts Tour with Sharon Van Etten & Angel Olsen
  • Joanne Menon ACIM workshops https://joannemenon.com/
  • Ainsley McLeod author and past-life healer https://ainsliemacleod.com/

About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing by Sarah Thibault

Content editing by Sarah Thibault 

Intro and outro music by LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company and metaphysical hub.

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Liz and Sarah talk with Bay Area artist Klea McKenna. Liz fan-girls about Klea's work and the history of photography. Klea talks about making work as a mom, and how her artwork propelled her through the stress of the pandemic.

About Klea McKenna

McKenna was born in Freestone, CA in 1980 and received a BA from the University of California in Santa Cruz and an MFA from the California College of the Arts. Recent exhibitions include: San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, San Francisco, CA; Contemporary Jewish Museum, San Francisco, CA; Heckscher Museum of Art, Huntington, NY; Museum of Photographic Arts, San Diego, CA. Public collections include: The Victoria & Albert Museum, London, San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, San Francisco, CA; Santa Barbara Museum of Art, Santa Barbara, CA; Mead Art Museum, Amherst, MA; Peabody Essex Museum, MA; and the US Embassy, Republic of Suriname, Art in Embassies, US Department of State. She is the daughter of renegade ethnobotanists, Kathleen Harrison and Terence McKenna. Klea lives in San Francisco with her husband and their young children.

Show Notes

Euqinom Gallery

In The Make Studio Visits

The New Topographics

Evidence 1977 by Larry Sultan and Mike Mandel

About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound editing by Hannah Dvorak

Content editing done by Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

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Liz and Sarah sit down with podcast host, art agent, and gallerist Emily McElwreath. They talk about falling in love at a silent retreat, mental health, challenging authority figures, and how to use anger constructively.

About Emily McElwreath

Emily McElwreath is equipped with over seventeen years of experience as an adviser, independent curator and art educator; she also boasts a background in sales. Thanks to her time as Director of Communications and Education at the Brant Foundation Art Study Center, Emily demonstrates the unique ability to understand the art world from both the point of view of the artist and the audience. This skill is continually perfected through extensive involvement in art education: throughout her career, Emily has organized multiple programs, lectures, and panels, featuring distinguished artists, on university campuses and leading NYC venues, in addition to lecturing herself at Sotheby’s Education. Emily has worked on blockbuster exhibitions including Andy Warhol, Julian Schnabel and Nate Lowman at The Brant Foundation, as well as lecturing at top NYC museums including The Whitney and The Metropolitan Museum of Art. Most recently, Emily has curated multiple exhibitions with leading emerging artists and is now co-director of Pegasus Prints Gallery in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

Show Notes:

  • The Art Career Podcast with Emily McElwreath
  • McElwreath Advisory
  • Instagram

About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound and copyediting are done by Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Intro and outro music by LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub, and online retail store.

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Liz and Sarah talk to another Bay Area duo, photographers and clairvoyants Alice Shaw and Lisa Sze. Alice and Lisa share their psychic awakening stories, talk about their channeling videos on YouTube where they channel universal knowledge on current events, and the group discusses how there is a push towards creative problem-solving as a "we."

About the Pivot Workshops

Pivot Workshops teaches people to connect to their inner knowledge. Alice and Lisa do not teach a belief system. They guide their students to trust their own inner wisdom. At the foundational level they teach meditation. Pivot Workshops currently offers three workshops to expand consciousness. Visit https://www.pivotworkshops.com/

About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

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This week Sarah and Liz talk with the dazzling professional witch, tarot reader, psychic medium, and writer Sarah Potter who is giving off Big Venus Energy. They talk about marching to the beat of your own drummer, and what exactly is color magic. Finally, Sarah Potter gives them both tarot readings. Liz asks a question about love and Sarah asks about work - which is very on-brand for both of them.

About Sarah Potter

Sarah Potter is a professional witch, Tarot Reader and practitioner of Color Magic, a means of using specific hues of the rainbow to conjure different energies and manifest personal transformation. Working with both private and corporate clients, Sarah has shared the magic of color and Tarot with thousands of clients over the years to promote self-empowerment, problem solving, and amplified intuitive skills through lectures, workshops, retreats, and one on one services.

Show Notes

Sarah Potter’s ONE AND ONLY Instagram account (Please block and report any imposters.)

Tarot Column for Cosmopolitan Magazine

Hilma's Ghost Instagram NYTimes review of Hilma's Ghost booth at The Armory

About The Side Woo Co-Hosts:

Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

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After being a guest on Michael's show The Conversation Art Podcast, Sarah gives Michael an intuitive energy and tarot reading.  They talk about past lives, leveraging his podcast for some real money, and spending more time in the sun. 

Show notes 

  • The Conversation Art Podcast Episode 319
  • Moonology: Working with the Magic of Lunar Cycles

About The Side Woo

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In this episode Liz gets what she wants: more reveal from Sarah. Sarah shares for the first time publically that she is a practicing witch and medium. They talk about overcoming fears while building a relationship with the spirit world, past life trauma, and visions Sarah has had about her family members who have passed, including her father who died in May 2021.

Show Notes

  • Amy Major, Episode 17
  • Holly Shantara
  • Buddha's Brain
  • Zen and the Brain
  • Tyler Henry Medium

About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound and copyediting are done by Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

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Sarah and Liz talk with Aussie Artist Jaq Grantford about her photorealist paintings, working with models of all shapes and ages, recovering from cancer, and what she's up to next. Sarah gives Jaq a tarot reading.

About Jaq Grantford

Jaq Grantford is an award-winning portrait artist, with work held in the National Gallery of Victoria, the European Museum of Modern Art (MEAM) Barcelona Spain, and other collections worldwide. Her work is a favourite with gallery-goers often winning the People’s Choice. She has been recognised by Portrait Society of America a number of times, and many other art prizes throughout Australia and internationally. Her portraits are often quirky and looking at the person from an unusual perspective. But she also works more traditionally, especially with corporate portraits, family portraits, and more personal portraits.

Show notes:

  • Jaq Grantford website

About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound and copyediting are done by Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Intro and outro music by LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub, and online retail store. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to ninaarnette.co. For questions, comments, press, or sponsorships you can email thesidewoo@gmail.com


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In the most woo episode yet, Sarah and Liz talk with Spirit Rescue Specialist Amy Major about helping lost souls cross over, the reality of ghosts and the importance of democratizing access to the metaphysical world.

About Amy MajorAmy Major is a top professional Psychic, Medium, Rescue Medium, Channel, Healer, Teacher and Published Author. A successful Medium and healer in the New England area for 25 years, she has both studied and worked at the New Millennium Psychic Center in Derry, NH, and was also the lead medium in the Psychic Ghostbusters Team, conducting many spirit investigations and rescues. Always interested in her development, Amy has studied under some of the best mediums in the area as well as specialized schools focusing on psychic and mediumship abilities.

Her first book, "Toward the Light", (Rescuing Spirits, Trapped Souls, and Earthbound Ghosts) has gained popularity throughout the spiritual and paranormal communities. Amy worked as a consulting medium to CBS Studios to develop a series based on the book "Toward the "Light".

Amy's second book, "Light the Way", was written as a field guide for mediums looking to pursue rescue mediumship and spirit rescue. Amy now teaches spirit rescue to students throughout the world by Zoom conferences. Her third book, " Release to Light", is scheduled to be available through her website and Amazon soon.

Show Notes

  • Books by Amy Major
  • Towards The Light TV show with CBS
  • AmyMajor.com

About The Side Woo

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound and copyediting are done by Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Intro and outro music by LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub, and online retail store. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to ninaarnette.co. For questions, comments, press, or sponsorships you can email thesidewoo@gmail.com


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Sarah and Liz talk with artist Rema Ghuloum about overcoming great loss, and the importance of art in the face of tragedy. Trigger warning: this episode contains some conversation about addiction, mental illness, and self-harming.

If you or someone you know needs support, the Suicide Hotline number is 800 273 8255.

About Rema Ghuloum

Rema lives and works in Los Angeles, CA. She received her BFA in Drawing and Painting from California State University, Long Beach in 2007 and her MFA from California College of the Arts in San Francisco in 2010. Rema has been the recipient of multiple grants including the Davyd Whaley Foundation Artist-Teacher Grant in 2020, the Pollock-Krasner Foundation Grant in 2018, the Esalen Pacifica Prize in 2012, and the Joan Mitchell Foundation Grant in 2010. Rema’s work has been reviewed in Art Forum, Hyperallergic, CARLA, the Los Angeles Times, Fabrik, among others. She has exhibited nationally and internationally at venues like Emma Gray HQ, Edward Cella Gallery, Et Al. Gallery, Hawthorn Contemporary, the Cue Art Foundation, Torrance Art Museum, and Arka Gallery in Vladivostok, Russia. Her work is included in the Achenbach Foundation for Graphic Arts Works on Paper Collection at the Legion of Honor Museum, San Francisco.

About The Side Woo

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub, and online retail store. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to ninaarnette.co.

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound and copyediting are done by Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

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Sarah sits down with curator and fellow scorpio, Robert Cozzolino, to talk about his new exhibition Supernatural America: the Paranormal in American Art which is in its last leg of a three-stop national tour at the Minneapolis Institute of Art.

About the Supernatural America exhibition

America is haunted. Ghosts from its violent history—the genocide of Indigenous peoples, slavery, the threat of nuclear annihilation, and traumatic wars—are an inescapable and unsettled part of the nation’s heritage. Not merely in the realm of metaphor but present and tangible, urgently calling for contact, these otherworldly visitors have been central to our national identity. Through times of mourning and trauma, artists have been integral to visualizing ghosts, whether national or personal, and in doing so have embraced the uncanny and the inexplicable. This stunning catalog, accompanying the first major exhibition to assess the spectral in American art, explores the numerous ways American artists have made sense of their own experiences of the paranormal and the supernatural, developing a rich visual culture of the intangible.

About Robert Cozzolino

Robert Cozzolino, the Patrick and Aimee Butler Curator of Paintings at the Minneapolis Institute of Art, curates collaboratively, in partnership with artists, colleagues, and broad communities. “Starting where you are” is critical to his practice—knowing the immediate context and deeper history of the place in which he works. It also means working with humility and accepting that there is much yet to learn from others. Dr. Cozzolino is drawn to artists that make work about the full range of human experience, especially those who aspire to visually express the intangible, states of consciousness, and a full range of emotions. Although he has worked on topics from the 19th and 20th centuries, he regularly works with contemporary artists in examining history. Born and raised in Chicago, he studied at UIC before completing graduate studies at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. His publications include Supernatural America: The Paranormal in American Art (2021), World War I and American Art(2016), Peter Blume: Nature and Metamorphosis (2014), and David Lynch: The Unified Field (2014). First trained as a musician, he has played free-improvised music as a percussionist since 1993.

About The Side Woo

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub, and online retail store. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to ninaarnette.co.

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound and copyediting are done by Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

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Liz and Sarah talk with the co-hosts of the Beyond The Studio podcast, artist Nicole Mueller and designer Amanda Adams. They discuss their strong Capricorn energy, how to maintain a spiritual connection to art while having a career and manifesting money.

About Beyond The Studio

Beyond the Studio is a podcast about the career paths of working contemporary artists— how they're supporting and sustaining themselves and their creative work. Co-hosted by artists Nicole Mueller (San Francisco, CA) and Amanda Adams (Baltimore, MD), Beyond the Studio features candid conversations with contemporary artists, makers, and art world professionals about their business practices, time management, financial planning, and how they're navigating the unique challenges of making a living, creatively. Founded on the belief that artists are inherently resourceful, resilient, and ambitious, with a unique and diverse set of skills, Beyond the Studio wants to know how they're connecting the dots in their own life, and demystify the process. By sharing these stories openly and honestly, their hope is that artists will feel more empowered and become better equipped to live out their own creative life's work. The podcast can be found on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, and on their website www.beyondthe.studio. Follow Beyond the Studio on Instagram @beyondthestudio


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Sarah and Liz talk with writer, life coach, and mystic Joanne Menon about the spiritual text A Course in Miracles. How do you let go of your ego in an instant? What do miracles look like in the everyday? Joanne shares her experiences putting ACIM concepts to use in her life and fields questions about the more controversial aspects of the text.

About Joanne Menon

As a Spiritual & Creative Wellness Coach and non-fiction writer, Joanne merges the spiritual realms and deep love of mysticism with the power of creativity. With her MA’s in Spiritual Psychology and Creative Writing she was a Master Teacher at the Ojai Valley Inn and Spa and currently adores private coaching, teaching A Course in Miracles, The Artist’s Way, and a range of other programs to engage writers and seekers alike. She is launching a spectacular summer retreat in Olympic National Park June 19-24th. Go to https://joannemenon.com/ for more info!

Show Notes

  • Joanne Menon on Instagram: @joanne.menon
  • To learn more about Joanne's upcoming retreat in the Olympic National Valley June 19-24, 2022 reach out to her via her website (link coming soon).
  • Marianne Williamson's "Return to Love" - a cult classic and RuPaul favorite Williamson unpacks ACIM concepts for mainstream consumption.
  • The Global Mystics Certification

About The Side Woo

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub, and online retail store. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to ninaarnette.co.

Co-Hosts: Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

Sound and copy editing done by Sarah Thibault & Elizabeth Bernstein

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On the first full episode of Season 2 of The Side Woo, Sarah & Liz talk about Liz’s aging mom, woo stuff, watching someone discover Queen for the first time on Youtube and more. Plus, another love tarot reading for Liz.

Guest bioElizabeth Darrow Bernstein, the new co-host of The Side Woo, is an artist, educator, entrepreneur and former gallery director who lives in Oakland, California. She received her MFA from the San Francisco Art Institute in 2007. In addition to co-founding the Royal NoneSuch Gallery, she was visiting faculty in the photography department at the San Francisco Art Institute.

Her store, Maker’s Loft, presents a highly curated selection of ceramics, glass, skincare, art, prints, plants, apparel, books, journals, jewelry and lots more. Visit makersloft.co to learn more

Notes:

  • EDB’s art: elizabethdarrowbernstein.com
  • Royal NoneSuch Gallery royalnonesuchgallery.com
  • Sarah’s Cat show in Copenhagen: https://www.specta.dk/
  • Get a tarot reading at ninaarnette.co

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Recorded on Super Bowl Sunday, when the rest of the US was thinking about bean dip, Liz and Sarah recorded a hot take episode outside of Liz's store Maker's Loft in Oakland, CA. Sarah gives Liz a special love-themed tarot reading and talks about the future of Liz's dating life.

Liz begins her reign as The Side Woo's new co-host in Season 2, Episode 1 which launches March 1st. Stay tuned!


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In this hot take episode, Sarah tells readers how to pull a Wheel of the Year tarot reading, a great way to prepare for the year ahead.

Show notes:

  • Wheel of the Year pagan holidays and history
  • Image of Wheel of the Year tarot spread - scroll down to the second image
  • Get 20% when you order a Wheel of the Year reading + a 2022 Astral Planner from NINA ARNETTE

About The Side Woo:

Host and Creator: Sarah Thibault

Editing: Sarah Thibault on Garage Band

Music: LewisP on Audio Jungle

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Sarah talks with guest Mathew Halpin, friend and residency director of Lakkos Art Residency and Ano Asites Residency on the Greek island of Crete. Mathew talks about living on Crete as an Australian, how he started up his artist residency, and a little about his new book called AIR, now available on Amazon.

About Mathew Halpin

Mathew is an Australian visual artist/ theatre set designer and new author. His latest projects involved inviting contemporary artists to engage with communities and improve the image of depressed neighborhoods. He currently calls the Greek island of Crete his home where he runs an artist's residency.

Show notes

  • Buy AIR: Artists in residence, a novel based on a true story
  • Lakkos Art Residency
  • Ano Asites Art Residency
  • How to (Mis)behave at an artist residency an article from Sarah's Artists + Travel blog

About The Side Woo

Host and Creator: Sarah Thibault

Editing: Sarah Thibault on Garage Band

Music: LewisP on Audio Jungle

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub and retail store. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to ninaarnette.co.

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Sarah starts the episode with a short anecdote about her run-in with some guitar store snobs, and does a mini-tarot reading for the show. Then Sarah and guest, the dancer, healer, writer, and former Nes Artist Residency Co-Director, Kerryn McMurdo talk about Kerryn's background in contemporary dance, life in a small town at a residency in the north of Iceland, and her recent experiences with fertility challenges.

About Kerryn McMurdo

Kerryn trained in contemporary dance, improvisation & choreography in New Zealand from 1997 -2000, (graduating with a BPSA degree) and worked as a professional freelance dancer/performer, choreographer, and creative mentor since 2000. Kerryn held a tenured position as a core team member on the contemporary dance degree program, at Unitec New Zealand Performing Arts School, and this is where she developed her teaching and skills in training dancers and performers, leading workshops and improvisations, supervising student choreographies, and curating interdisciplinary programs and performances.

As a freelancer, Kerryn has performed and collaborated with renowned NZ dance companies as well as with independent artists, and created her own solo performances (under the pseudonym Artillery Performance’). Her creative work has lead her to perform throughout NZ as well as in Europe, Australia, USA, India, Japan, Iceland, and Mexico. As a teacher, Kerryn enjoys facilitating spaces where people can explore their own creative processes and body knowledge. Kerryn has been living in Iceland since 2015, in which she co-directed an international artists residency program (Nes Artist Residency) in Skagaströnd for 6 years, and now lives in Reykjavík with her husband and cat. Kerryn is also interested in writing, researching consciousness, practicing healing modalities, meditation, and yoga.

Show Notes

  • Wunjo Rune
  • Regent Sounds and the famous t-shirt
  • Muscle and Bone dance
  • Nes Artist Residency
  • Some tips for home care after a miscarriage (not medical advice)

About The Side Woo

Host and Creaator: Sarah Thibault

All editing done by Sarah Thibault on Garage Band

Music by LewisP-Audio found on Audio Jungle

The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub and retail store. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to ninaarnette.co.

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This week Sarah talks to guest Bernadette Esposito, a writer and plane crash archivist, who was on residency in Iceland at the time of the interview. They talk about Bern's long-running obsession with flying and planes that started years before her plane to Paris caught on fire mid-flight. They discuss aura reading, numerology and the challenges of mining your real life for your writing. Plus, a special shout out to artist Kirk Stoller who would have been 61 on November 25, 2021, the day this episode airs.

About Bernadette Esposito

Bernadette Esposito is an air disaster archivist, writer and yoga instructor. She is writing a book-length meditation on plane crashes. Her work has appeared in Best American Essays, have been nominated for Pushcart Prizes and have been long-listed in Best Horror Writing. Her essays have appeared in Conjunctions, The Iowa Review, The Normal School, Hotel Amerika, and others. She won The Iowa Review Award for nonfiction and has been awarded fellowships from the Yaddo Corporation, the Ucross Foundation, the Jack Kerouac House, the Santa Fe Art Institute, and others. She holds a certification in air disaster investigation from the National Transportation Safety Board Training Center and an S-212 from Colorado Fire Camp. She teaches writing at Maine College of Art in Portland

Show Notes

  • Follow Bernadette on her Instagram @Seat22f to learn about the plane crashes of history
  • National Transportation Safety Board Training Center
  • Fear of Flying Clinic
  • Kirk Stoller and C2C Project Space: Bridging the Gap Between San Francisco and New York in SFAQ Online
  • Club Kirk: an exhibition curated by Kirk at Romer Young Gallery in San Francisco

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About The Side Woo

Host and Creaator: Sarah Thibault

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Sarah and documentarian Anna Katrine (Kat) Thuesen talk about the challenge of finding the right day job as an artist, red flags to look out for when talking to a new prospective employer, and why everyone should revisit Thuesen's favorite, canonical 80's film, Top Gun, especially the opening sequence. Bonus content: Kat and Sarah take the quiz, Which Top Gun character are you? The answers may surprise you!

About Kat ThuesenAnna Katrine Thuesen is the creator of Bella Tola Films. She is an MFA in Film Directing, producer, kitesurfer, ex-telemark skier, photographer, video gamer, mountain lover, and doom scroller. However, first and foremost she is a storyteller. She doesn’t shy away from difficult projects, in fact, she welcomes them.

Show Notes:

  • Bella Tola Films
  • Bella Tola on Instagram
  • Human geography definition
  • The opening sequence of Top Gun
  • Supercut of Archer saying "Danger Zone."

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Sarah talks with guest, Gabi Magaly, an artist and educator based in San Antonio, TX.  They discuss their shared love of RuPaul's Drag Race, Gabi's MFA show which opened at the start of the pandemic, her relationship to religion, growing up with strong female role models, and Gabi's most recent body of work - a series of portraits of her Mexican grandmother.  About Gabi Magaly Gabi Magaly is an emerging artist born in Bryan, Texas. Magaly received her BFA in photography at Sam Houston State University in 2015 and received her MFA in Visual Arts at the University of Texas at San Antonio in 2020. Magaly has exhibited in solo shows at Satellite Gallery, Huntsville, TX; The Brick, San Antonio, TX; Presa House Gallery, San Antonio, TX; Casa Lu, Mexico City. Her numerous group exhibitions include at Luis Leu Gallery, Karlsruhe, Germany; The Guadalupe Cultural Arts Center, San Antonio, TX; Masur Museum in Monroe, Louisiana; Museo De Las Américas in Dever, CO; New Texas Talent XXVII in Dallas, TX. She’s been awarded two CAMMIE awards from Blue Star Contemporary and Luminaria Contemporary Cultural Center during Contemporary Art Month 2020. She is also serving a term on the SPE Board of Directors 2020-2024. She works predominantly in the medium of photography, but also employs other mediums like sculptural installation and embroidery. Magaly currently lives in San Antonio, Texas, and works remotely at Diné College in Tsaile, Arizona. To learn more check out her website and her Instagram. Show Notes

Luminaria Contemporary Arts Festival, November 13, 2021. 6PM - Midnight Casa Lu Artist Residency - Mexico City, Mexico Presa House Gallery 

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About The Side Woo Host and Creaator: Sarah Thibault All editing done by Sarah Thibault on GarageBand Music by LewisP-Audio found on AudioJungle The Side Woo is a podcast created through NINA ARNETTE, a media production company, metaphysical hub and retail store. To learn more about NINA ARNETTE go to ninaarnette.co.  For questions, comments, press or sponsorships you can email nina@ninaarnette.co. 


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On this, the first episode of The Side Woo podcast, host Sarah Thibault and guest Nikki Nolan talk about the connection between money and energy. Why? Because money touches everything, and money is really about energy, and energy is all there is.  About Nikki Nolan Nikki Nolan is a Product Designer. She accrued all of her student debt when she got her MFA in Interactive Media at Pratt Institute. Before studying at Pratt, she was debt-free while earning her BFA in Sculpture and Photography, with a minor in art history and theatrical technical design from Colorado State University. She also has a certificate in web development. She has a Podcast - Matter of Life and Debt and is working on a second podcast about disability. She also spends time in her Westfalia Vanagon, traveling in addition to growing vegetables from seeds in her garden in Berkeley, CA. Show Notes

Matter of Life & Debt - a podcast by Nikki Nolan about the student debt crisis Nikki Nolan on Instagram The Energy of Money by Leisa Peterson Suzy Orman  Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman The Prosp(a)rity Project Thordis and The Museum of Prophecies  The Paradox of Belonging by Terra Dankowski

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This is the Trailer for The Side Woo. The first three episodes will be launching 11/11/21! Subscribe to be the first to know. 

Host and Creator: Sarah Thibault

All editing done by Sarah Thibault on GarageBand

Music by: LewisP-Audio on Audio Jungle


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