Conversations on Conversations: Recent Episodes

Sarah Noll Wilson, Inc

Start building better relationships through the power of conversations.

On Conversations on Conversations, (the newest podcast from Sarah Noll Wilson, CEO and founder of Sarah Noll Wilson, Inc., a leading-edge virtual training and development company), Sarah speaks with experts in their field and gets deep about the impact, brain science, and shared love of holding powerful conversations.

You’ll walk away each week with an enriched understanding of a facet of really listening and holding conversations. Plus, we’re committed to providing you explicit tools and strategies you can begin to implement in your own world right away.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and stylist Elsa Isaac as they explore how the clothes we wear can influence not just how others see us, but how we feel about ourselves. Learn how to reconnect with your style, play with your wardrobe, and show up powerfully as your most authentic self.

About Our GuestElsa Isaac is a personal wardrobe stylist for ambitious women professionals, who believes style is really all about self-expression. A seasoned pro with 20+ years in the fashion industry, the east African-born stylist has built quite a noteworthy portfolio, working her style magic on everyone from Rachel Rodgers and Lenny Kravitz, to Katie Couric and Marion Jones. Nowadays, she helps successful career women + entrepreneurs revamp their wardrobes + create show-stopping ensembles that flatter their unique body shapes and lifestyles. Elsa resides in NYC with her husband and son, and is the host of the Get Styled Podcast.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: https://elsaisaac.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/elsaisaac

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/elsaisaac

Get Styled Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-styled/id1743069176

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Lawrence Weinrauch as they explore the evolving landscape of modern masculinity. From breaking free of rigid expectations to owning your authentic self, this episode offers thought-provoking insights on how to show up more fully in life.

About Our GuestLawrence Weinrauch is the General Manager of Turtleford Coop, as well as the Mayor of Turtleford, in Saskatchewan. He is also a father to four of his own children and a stepdad to two more. In his spare time, Lawrence studies Contemplative Psychotherapy and spends time outdoors with his wife and their two dogs. A Buddhist practitioner, Lawrence is fascinated by the mind and the dynamics of human interactions.

Links and ResourcesEmail: lawrence.weinrauch@gmail.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Julie Ressler as they explore the imposter phenomenon in men. Topics including the impacts of family, gender, and culture, and how leaders can make a difference by embracing recognition and open conversations.

About Our GuestDr. Julie Ressler decided early on, around the age of 9, that she wanted to be a teacher, however exactly what kind of a teacher wasn’t established until later in life. Growing up in northeast Iowa, her passion for education and helping people grow and learn was influenced by her parent’s chosen professions of high school teacher and business owner. Observing these two amazing role models encouraged her to pursue a career as a teacher of adults-which in her words are “little kids” in bigger bodies.

Over the past thirty years, she has been a proud member of the Des Moines community working in banking and insurance in various corporate training roles. She is currently the AVP-Insurance Operations Training at Athene USA, where she leads a talented team of performance improvement professionals.

She earned a B.S. from Iowa State University and a master’s degree from Drake University, both in adult education. She’s certified in Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) and Prosci Change Management. Julie completed her doctorate degree in educational leadership from Drake University, May of 2024.

Her greatest accomplishments include raising two daughters and a son. Lauren (29) is a school psychologist with the Juneau, Alaska school district, Madelyn (27), a graphic designer at Athene in Des Moines, and her 22-year-old son, CJ served as an Army Ranger and is currently pursuing a degree to serve as an anesthesia nurse practitioner.

Links and ResourcesLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/juliecmahlstedt

The Influence of Personal and Career Situations on Men's Experiences with Imposter Phenomenon by Julie C. Ressler:

Clance Imposter Scale: paulineroseclance.com/pdf/IPscoringtest.pdf

Stop Telling Women They Have Imposter Syndrome by Ruchika Tulshyan and Jodi-Ann Burey:hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-women-they-have-imposter-syndrome

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Rob Craven Jr. as they discuss the challenges and rewards of sustaining a family business for over a century. Rob reflects on the leadership lessons he’s learned while honoring the legacy of those who came before him.

About Our GuestRobert Craven, Jr. was born and raised in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and the surrounding suburbs. A graduate of Episcopal Academy, he earned a Bachelor's degree from Syracuse University’s School of Management in 1973.

Robert joined the family business, F.A. Davis Co., working part-time before college. After graduating, he became a full-time college textbook representative, later promoted to National Sales Manager. In 1981, he took on the role of Editor in Chief and COO, and in 1989 was named President. Under his leadership, the company’s annual sales grew from $3 million to $50 million.

Outside of the publishing industry, Robert has been an active parent, coaching his children's sports and serving as Treasurer for 13 years on the Board of Trustees at the Russell Byers Charter School. He and his wife, Michelle, have been married for 43 years and have three children and four grandchildren.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.fadavis.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guests Lauren Yee and Maddy Gabor as they explore neurodivergence in the workplace. Together, they discuss how play, curiosity, and clear communication can transform team dynamics and create inclusive spaces for everyone to thrive.

About Our GuestsLauren Yee and Maddy Gabor are co-founders of Betterment Works, a playful professional development company on a mission to strengthen businesses and teams by helping people feel, connect, and do better at work.

Lauren is a process-driven problem solver who believes that curiosity, consistency, and connections are the greatest drivers of great things. She is also an extroverted Hufflepuff who loves puzzles, pizza, and fun questions! She studied design and psychology, has been managing people, projects, and clients since 2005, and previously helped grow the largest LEGO-inspired learning through play company in the United States.

Her experience from a decade of working with kids, informs her perspective and focus on how play, curiosity, and inclusion can improve productivity, innovation, teamwork, and leadership.

Maddy is an impact-obsessed, life-long learner with a passion for leadership, data, and play. As a neurodivergent executive, she is well-versed in the struggles of focus, productivity, time management, and leadership; and her facilitation and content are informed by that experience. Driven by a dedication to understanding and an unending belief in human betterment, Maddy envisions more empowering, engaging, and compassionate workplaces for all. Using play and analytics as the tools and her values as the compass, she pursues this vision relentlessly.

An expert in the practical applications of learning through play, Maddy facilitates playful professional development and consults on organizational betterment projects.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.bettermentworks.com

Lauren Email: Lauren@bettermentworks.com

Maddy Email: Maddy@bettermentworks.com

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Sarah shares a quick update on the upcoming schedule for the podcast, as well as some big, exciting changes we have in store for the show in 2025!

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Vanessa McNeal as they explore the role of emotions in personal and professional growth, sharing insights on how expressing feelings can unlock greater fulfillment and productivity.

About Our GuestVanessa McNeal is a nationally acclaimed Speaker, Life Coach, and Award-Winning Documentary Filmmaker. With a Master's Degree in Social Work, Vanessa is a leading voice on topics of well-being, leadership development, and fostering a culture of belonging and care in the workplace and beyond. Her impactful presentations have resonated with audiences ranging from women’s empowerment events and university lecture halls to prestigious military institutions such as the National Guard and Air Force. Vanessa's mission is to inspire and ignite positive change, empowering individuals and organizations to reach their highest potential. Vanessa's dedication and influence have earned her numerous accolades, including the Inspiring Women of Iowa Award and the Statement Maker Award, highlighting her as a transformative force in the field of personal and professional development.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.vanessamcneal.com

Email: info@vanessamcneal.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Susan Arduengo for an exploration of workplace investigations. Susan shares insights from her experience, including the importance of transparency, unbiased listening, and creating a safe and supportive environment for employees.

About Our GuestSusan Arduengo is a California licensed attorney and an Association of Workplace Investigators Certificate Holder who conducts impartial, thorough, high quality workplace investigations throughout California. Susan has investigated a broad range of allegations in private and public sector workplaces including for non-profits and higher education. Susan has also conducted investigations into allegations against elected officials and sworn personnel including Firefighters’ Procedural Bill of Rights Act (FBOR) and Public Safety Officers Procedural Bill of Rights Act (POBR) matters. Susan is also experienced in conducting investigations in unionized workplaces. Before focusing on investigations, Susan practiced as an employment litigator and she litigated matters involving wage disputes, allegations of harassment, discrimination, retaliation, and class action litigation in both state and federal courts. A native Floridian, Susan holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Florida and a J.D. from Stetson University College of Law. While in law school, Susan clerked for the United States Attorney's Office, Middle District of Florida and the Sixth Judicial Circuit of Florida. From there, Susan began her law career in Chicago, Illinois before relocating to California.

Links and ResourcesEmail: susan@arduengoinvestigations.com

Website: www.arduengoinvestigations.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/susan-arduengo-81092412

Harvard’s Implicit Association Tests (IAT): implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/index.jsp

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Dr. Teresa Peterson as they celebrate the release of the Don't Feed the Elephants! Workbook by exploring fresh insights and perspectives on the challenges of starting tough conversations. Topics range from overcoming avoidance to crafting impactful opening statements that set the tone for honest dialogue.

About Our GuestDr. Teresa Peterson is the Director of Learning and Development for Sarah Noll Wilson, Inc. In her daily work, she serves as Sarah’s key content collaborator. Teresa enjoys facilitating, researching, and is passionate about applying best practices for learning to make our experiences meaningful, engaging, and accessible for all types of learners. Teresa holds a Doctorate in Education from the University of Northern Iowa and brings over twenty years of experience teaching, facilitating, and leading to our team. Our clients love Teresa’s grounded energy, depth of thought, and ability to listen deeply.

Links and ResourcesEmail: teresa@sarahnollwilson.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/teresa-peterson-EdD

Don’t Feed the Elephants! Workbook: www.theleadercampus.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Tiana Sanchez as they examine the role of consistency and integrity in leadership, with real talk on how organizations can truly uphold commitments to diversity and inclusion.

About Our GuestTiana Sanchez, CEO and Founder of TSI, LLC, a Woman-Owned Small Business, brings over a decade of expertise as a Corporate Trainer and Business Consultant to leaders in the public and private sectors. With a #1 best-selling authorship and a globally recognized podcast, Tiana has earned acclaim for her insights, including a KTLA Morning News feature on workplace empathy. As an Award-Winning Executive Coach, she utilizes her diverse management background in Retail, Food and Beverage, and Finance to elevate people development. Leading Tiana Sanchez International, named "Best Executive Coaching" Program by HR.Com, Tiana specializes in delivering world-class leadership programs, keynotes, and seminars. Her tailored Diversity Audits and Pulse Surveys empower organizations with equitable practices, showcased through partnerships with renowned entities like Sempra, Metropolitan Water District, Sony Pictures Entertainment, and various government agencies. Tiana's impactful workshops at esteemed educational institutions underscore her commitment to elevating organizational effectiveness. Armed with a Psychology and Business Management background, Tiana is a sought-after speaker, contributing author, and dedicated advocate for sustainable leadership development.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.tianasanchez.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/tianasanchez

Instagram: www.instagram.com/likearealbosslady

YouTube: www.youtube.com/@TianaSanchez

The New C-Suite: Civil Leadership in Action: https://a.co/d/7KLVQGU

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Shanté Gordon as they explore the importance of proactive resourcing, community, and living with authenticity to prevent and navigate burnout.

About Our GuestShanté Gordon, a dynamic DEI Strategist, Executive Coach, and Trauma-Sensitive Wellness Facilitator & Yoga Teacher (RYT-500), boasts a rich, multi-disciplinary career spanning decades. Armed with an Industrial Engineering and Management Sciences degree from Northwestern University, she began in supply chain management, where she uncovered workplace disparities around gender, race, and privilege. Transitioning to marketing, Shanté climbed the ranks in iconic music labels, online retailers, and fitness brands, until burnout prompted a recalibration towards a more balanced life. This shift led her to wellness, a journey that now profoundly informs her DEI strategy. As a DEI strategist at The Norfus Firm, Shanté adeptly merges mindfulness and trauma sensitivity with change management expertise, crafting tailored solutions for organizations ranging from small arts non-profits to major healthcare companies and most industries in between. Her unique approach centers on aligning organizational values with culture while maintaining a people-centric and data-driven focus. Beyond titles and industries, Shanté's true passion lies in connecting the dots within others' narratives. Whether coaching individuals or steering organizations, she finds joy in unlocking their potential and guiding them towards their goals. Shanté is a catalyst for transformation, committed to making workplaces environments where everyone can thrive.

Links and ResourcesThe Norfus Firm Website: www.thenorfusfirm.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/shantegordon

Instagram: www.instagram.com/shantesgordon

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guests Amy Myers and Luke Mohlenhoff for a candid conversation on how ADHD and anxiety impact their daily lives, relationships, and work, offering insights on navigating neurodivergence with compassion and support.

About Our GuestsAmy Myers brings over two decades of program management expertise to her role as our Chief of Staff. Her passion for connecting with clients while working together to “cross the Ts and dot the Is” makes her partnership personally rewarding on many levels (she loves a good Excel tracking sheet!). Amy’s background includes work in public education, government, and non-profit arts organizations. She earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Sociology from Grinnell College, inspiring her lifelong interest in others’ stories and experiences. Fun Fact: In her free time, Amy lives vicariously through PBS baking shows and America’s Test Kitchen. She enjoys trying new dishes, but believes recipes are “only a suggestion.” Her husband and cat beg to differ. #oliveoilbrowniefail

Luke Mohlenhoff is a Senior Vice President at West Bank and manages the Residential Construction and Land Development team. Luke has been with West Bank since 2011 and has over two decades of experience in the banking industry. He has specialized in residential construction and land development banking since 2007. Luke actively contributes to professional organizations, as an 11 year board member of the Home Builders Association of Greater Des Moines, a 10 year board member of the Westbancorporation Foundation and more recently, as a two year board member of CREW Iowa (Commercial Real Estate Women). His motivation to pursue a career in construction and development banking comes from the contributions that this specialization has in transforming the Des Moines metropolitan area. He has a particular passion for affordable housing initiatives and making housing more affordable for all, regardless of income level. A graduate of Albion College with a bachelor’s degree in Political Science and English, he also earned an Elementary Teaching Certificate from Eastern Michigan University. He was born in Connecticut and has lived in multiple states, but considers Jackson, Michigan his home town. He has lived in Des Moines for the past 22 years with his wife, Amy Myers, and their cats, Teddy Bear Roosevelt and Chloe “Chloe-Bear” Warwick. Luke is an avid golfer and his current golf handicap is mid-range irons.

Links and ResourcesAmy Email: amy@sarahnollwilson.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson as she speaks with Rebecca Christian and Kate Thompson about their experience, as mother and daughter, living with Rebecca's Alzheimer's diagnosis. Together, they explore the power of connection, humor, and self-advocacy in overcoming the challenges of memory loss.

About Our GuestsRebecca Christian is a freelance writer who splits her time between Iowa and Toronto. Her work includes plays, books, poems, magazine articles, newspaper op-eds and articles, and a regular newspaper column for the Telegraph Herald in Dubuque for the last 35 years. She considers her best work to be silly stories and songs she has written for her friends, three children, seven grandchildren, three stepchildren and four stepgrands. She has Early Alzheimer's and is burning the candle brightly before the flame flickers out.

Kate Thompson is a neurodiversity consultant who has worked with a variety of businesses, including libraries and public health organizations, to improve the environment for all employees. She was a member Iowa’s Olmstead Consumer Services Taskforce, which helps enforce the American’s with Disabilities Act (ADA), an adjunct faculty member at Des Moines Area Community College, and a contributor to the American Library Association’s book “Library Programming for Autistic Children and Teens.”

Links and ResourcesKate Email: katecthompson@icloud.com

Kate LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kate-thompson-50310

Alzheimer’s Association: www.alz.org

National Institute on Aging (NIA) - Alzheimer’s Disease: www.nia.nih.gov/health/alzheimers

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Brandon Springle as they sit down with Dr. Amy Edmondson to discuss her groundbreaking research on psychological safety. Uncover the critical role of high-quality conversations and the powerful impact of embracing intelligent failures for organizational growth.

About Our GuestAmy C. Edmondson, the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School, is a management scholar best known for her research on psychological safety and team learning. She has been recognized by the biannual Thinkers50 global ranking of management thinkers since 2011 and was ranked #1 in 2021 and 2023. She is the author of eight books and more than 100 academic articles. Inducted into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2024, her most recent book, Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well, won the Financial Times and Schroders Best Business Book of 2023. Edmondson received her PhD in organizational behavior, AM in psychology, and AB in engineering and design from Harvard University.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.amycedmondson.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/amycedmondson

X: x.com/AmyCEdmondson

Instagram: www.instagram.com/AmyCEdmondson

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson as she celebrates the show's 100th episode with a deep dive into the evolving nature of workplace relationships. Guests Gilmara Vila Nova-Mitchell, Dr. Teresa Peterson, and Brandon Springle share insights on building connections in virtual settings, fostering inclusion, and the vital role of empathetic leadership in creating supportive work environments.

About Our GuestsFor almost two decades, Gilmara Vila Nova-Mitchell has been helping organizations and leaders become more effective and inclusive through her engaging diversity and inclusion professional learning sessions, leadership development programs and equity & cultural proficiency coaching. Gilmara has worked with HR managers, chief diversity officers, and other leaders to create more inclusive work environments. Gilmara has collaborated with organizations from the private and public sector, in a variety of industries. Gilmara has supported organizations develop strategic plans, create equity driven monitoring tools, create more inclusive cultures, and learn more about equity-driven leadership. Born in Brazil, Gilmara moved to the United States in 2001. She holds a Bachelor of Multicultural Education from FUMEC University (Brazil) and a MSE in School Counseling from Drake University. Gilmara has a focused her doctoral studies in Organizational Behavior with a focus on trust in the workplace.

Dr. Teresa Peterson is the Director of Learning and Development for Sarah Noll Wilson, Inc. In her daily work, she serves as Sarah’s key content collaborator. Teresa enjoys facilitating, researching, and is passionate about applying best practices for learning to make our experiences meaningful, engaging, and accessible for all types of learners. Teresa holds a Doctorate in Education from the University of Northern Iowa and brings over twenty years of experience teaching, facilitating, and leading to our team. Our clients love Teresa’s grounded energy, depth of thought, and ability to listen deeply.

Brandon Springle is a dedicated HR (Human Resources) Leader with over 15 years of evolving experience working in multiple industries including Manufacturing, Background Screening, Health Insurance, and Sports & Entertainment. Brandon currently serves as a Divisional OD and Success Director at Shaw Industries where he has spent the past 9+ years. Brandon is a certified psychological safety coach using the “4 Stages of Psychological Safety” framework. Brandon is also certified as a Change Manager with intimate knowledge of the ADKAR process. Brandon is a senior leader focused on providing an amazing experience at all levels through a service-oriented approach that is rooted firmly in psychological safety. Brandon recognizes that there is power in aligning individually diverse talents to a shared vision where success is dependent upon the collective brain trust of the “team”. More than anything, Brandon loves to see people thriving as opposed to simply surviving. Brandon enjoys spending time with his wife and four children in his personal time. Brandon enjoys his hobbies which include reading, writing, music production, and all things basketball.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.sarahnollwilson.com

Gilmara LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/gilmara-vila-nova-mitchell

Gilmara Email: gilmara@sarahnollwilson.com

Teresa LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/teresa-peterson-EdD

Teresa Email: teresa@sarahnollwilson.com

Brandon LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/bspringle

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Hello listeners! We are taking a short summer break... just a little bit earlier than originally planned. Sarah is here to bring you up to speed on her unexpected hiatus, set the stage for our upcoming special Episode 100, and share a few thoughts that have been on her mind in the meantime. Stay tuned for updates, and we'll be back with more soon!

Thank you as always for being a part of our conversation!

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Courageous Fire as they delve into the challenges faced by Black women in predominantly white spaces. Courageous shares insights into her journey of embracing authenticity and self worth, highlighting the power of vulnerability, trust, and empathy in building inclusive spaces.

About Our GuestCourageous Fire is a Black woman and diligent part of the workforce who learned it was important to have a safe space to do safety planning, what it looked like to get help outside the workplace during the crisis of domestic violence, how far reaching the cost of DV is to health, how disruptive it is to work performance, how expensive it can be for years into the future, and how uniquely this health, economic, social justice issue specifically impacts Black women.

Once Courageous executed her plan to free herself and her daughters, she began to furiously RESEARCH. She wanted to find and/or create the best solutions. She wanted to know if she could find employer partners to create spaces within the work environment for safety planning if she provided the training and materials. She wanted to know if they realized how much money she could save them in employee absenteeism and healthcare costs if she provided them with cultural resources for their Black women employees. And she wanted to teach them how to utilize their position in Black women DV victim-survivor’s lives to be disruptors of the oftentime end result of DV - homicide.

She began Courageous Fire, LLC nearly 5 years ago to educate with a concentration on two distinct groups - Centers of Trust and Centers of Must - to increase the spaces where Black women can be treated with dignity, compassion, and stop being refused services or having services terminated for showing up fully as a Black woman during crisis. Courageous has always known her work would need to broaden to mitigate the harm of systems holding Black women accountable for the perpetrator’s violence against them and their children. That’s why she is moving toward those state-operated systems in her collaborative work with organizations such as Iowa Department of Health and Human Services, Children and Families of Iowa, and Safe and Together Institute to make that happen.

Nearly 5 years later, Courageous has successfully charted relationships with over 30 organizations to increase safe spaces for Black women. These places in Iowa include many cities: Waterloo, Dubuque, Davenport, Iowa City, Decorah, Cedar Rapids, Ankeny, and Des Moines, as well as Illinois and New York. In this time she has 1 organization that has set up a place for safety planning, but she knows there are many more needed.

Courageous is a consultant, trainer, and women’s empowerment speaker who comes with 12+ years of curriculum development and delivery experience, 6+ years as a motivational speaker, and 5+ years of independent studies in historical and systemic racial impact on Black women in DV. She often says her approach is never “shame on you!” which closes people down, but instead it is one of “did you know?” to give people a safe place for consideration. Courageous is aware that there is a temptation to assume how a Black woman will “teach”, but experience has shown her that knowledge, authenticity, and comfort with who she is creates a safe for her audience to be comfortable with themselves while they learn, question, seek, discard, relearn, and grow. She comes ready to invite everyone that attends that level of #permission.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.cfirellc.com/home

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/cfire

Instagram: www.instagram.com/cfire_llc

Shared Sisterhood: How to Take Collective Action for Racial and Gender Equity at Work by Tina Opie and Beth A. Livingston : https://a.co/d/dzMZaMD

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Stephanie Chin for a wide-ranging conversation with insights on leadership, personal growth and experimentation, and the complex challenges of creating diverse and inclusive workplaces.

About Our GuestStephanie Chin has spent the past two decades as a nonprofit leader, including working for the United Way network both globally and locally and at SRI International, Inc. She believes that we all do better when we all do better and her life’s mission is to help everyone operate near their potential while expanding it, by their own definition. She led day-to-day operations of MyFreeTaxes at United Way Worldwide, expanding the number of free tax filers from 50,000 to over 200,000 in two years, and promulgated an inclusive approach to project management at SRI International, Inc., leading a cross-division project management leadership team on the implementation of the new financial planning system. She approaches poverty fighting with a race conscious lens and advocates for equitable practices and systems change and contributed to United Way Worldwide’s Equity Framework. Chin’s new venture, Spicy Conversations, will help clients improve inclusive leadership practices and focus on behavior and systems change that makes a difference.

Chin has a Bachelor of Arts from University of California, Berkeley, a JD/MBA from Emory University, has a Green Belt in Lean Six Sigma, and coaching training from Co-Active Training Institute.

Links and ResourcesLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniemchin

LinkedIn (company): www.linkedin.com/company/spicy-conversations

Schedule a conversation with Stephanie: https://calendly.com/spicyconversation

The Culture Map by Erin Meyer: www.erinmeyer.com/book

Becoming Powerful Makes You Less Empathetic (HBR article): www.hbr.org/2015/04/becoming-powerful-makes-you-less-empathetic

Asch Conformity Experiments (Wikipedia): www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments

The Push and Pull: Declining Interest in Nonprofit Leadership: www.buildingmovement.org/reports/push-and-pull-report

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Rachel Formaro as they share their personal journeys of entrepreneurship, with a focus on the ways that intentionality and purpose can shape workplace culture and foster growth.

About Our GuestRachel Formaro is the CEO at Blu Pagoda LLC, a company she founded in 2014. With more than 20 years of both corporate and agency experience, Rachel is known for her creativity, compassion, and commitment to ensuring success for both clients and consultants, while having a positive impact on her community.

Prior to starting Blu Pagoda, Rachel was a Managing Director with Charles Schwab for almost 15 years. Before joining Schwab, Rachel started and ran a small advertising agency in Toronto, Canada.

Rachel attended the University of Toronto, where she earned a BA in English and History, and holds a post-graduate certificate in Market Research Analysis.

Outside of her work at Blu Pagoda, Rachel prioritizes her family, community, and well-being. In addition to being a mom and wife, she is an active volunteer and board member— Rachel is currently on the board at the Chrysalis Foundation for Women and Girls.

Links and ResourcesLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/rachelformaro

Website: www.blupagoda.com

12 Principles for Prototyping a Feminist Business by Jennifer Armbrust: www.sister.is

Holstee Manifesto: www.holstee.com/pages/manifesto

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Ify Walker as they discuss Ify's work challenging and disrupting the norms and biases involved in hiring, and offer actionable insights for creating inclusive workplaces.

About Our GuestIfy Walker is a proud product of Nigerian parents, Wisconsin, and Head Start. A fierce believer in the power of equitable culture and talent practices, Ify’s experience sits at the intersection of law, fundraising, and talent cultivation. She is a steady and courageous advisor whose firm has helped over 200 companies hire top executives from Offor’s talent network of over 10,000 leaders. As the Founder and CEO of Offor, Ify leads with her values: she believes that when people’s needs are prioritized, everyone can do their best work. As such, Offor invests in a paid certified financial planner and mandatory paid six weeks off for all of its employees. When she is not leading a growing national firm and debunking the meritocracy myth, Ify is running Mom's School of Excellence with her husband—the most important decision she has ever made.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.offor.co

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ifywalker

X: twitter.com/ifywalker

White Women: Everything You Already Know About Your Own Racism and How to Do Better by Regina Jackson and Saira Rao: www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/669854/white-women-by-regina-jackson-and-saira-rao

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Beth Shelton as they explore the complexities of addiction and sobriety. Sharing candidly from her personal experience, Beth provides valuable insights into understanding addiction, supporting loved ones, and embracing vulnerability for personal growth and healing.

About Our GuestBeth Shelton is the Chief Executive Office of Girl Scouts of Greater Iowa, overseeing all operations for 13,000 members in portions of Iowa, Nebraska and South Dakota.

With thought-provoking discussions among hundreds of speeches, conferences, podcast interviews, and articles written, Beth has reached millions of people from coast to coast, on topics ranging from workplace transformation to mental wellbeing to sobriety. Beth unapologetically speaks about the human experience and has received national accolades, highlighted on platforms ranging from Good Morning America, CNN and Working Mother Magazine, to The Washington Post, USA Today and the Today Show.

Beth is persistently curious, an avid reader, and uses solution-focused leadership to encourage radical innovation. She received her BA from Simpson College and MBA from Drake University, and has been named an alumni of achievement from both, while recently completing the Artificial Intelligence certificate program at MIT.

Beth, a life-long amputee, embraces a spirit of empowering others, having served various causes; including the Iowa Amputee Golf Association, leading a local Girl Scout troop, serving on her local school board, and coaching youth teams in multiple sports.

She has a lifelong love of sports, having been a 3-time collegiate MVP in tennis. She loves driving her vintage Jeep with the top off, just took up guitar lessons, and is enjoying the journey of visiting every national park.

Links and ResourcesWebsite: www.bethshelton.com

This Naked Mind by Annie Grace: www.thisnakedmind.com

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): www.samhsa.gov

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Kathryn Valentine as they discuss negotiation strategies tailored for women, navigating workplace biases, and fostering inclusive cultures. Through personal anecdotes and research insights, they explore empowering women to advocate for themselves and promote gender equality in professional settings.

About Our GuestKathryn Valentine is the CEO of Worthmore Strategies, where she leverages over a decade of research gendered business skills to help companies advance female talent. A top-rated speaker, her clients include multi-national organizations such as JP Morgan, KPMG and TIAA. Her work has been featured in the Harvard Business Review, the Wall Street Journal, Fast Company and Forbes; she has been invited to speak on her research at Harvard, Wharton and Kellogg business schools.

Website: www.worthmorestrategies.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/kval

75+ Negotiation Secrets: main-union-183.myflodesk.com/75things

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Jami Haberl as they discuss mental wellness, share insights from their own healthcare journeys, and examine the crucial role of empathy and systemic changes in promoting mental health and well-being in the workplace.

About Our GuestJami Haberl assumed the role of executive director at the Iowa Healthiest State Initiative in December 2014. Her dedication to health and wellness blossomed at the age of 10, prompted by a pivotal event when her youngest sister fell into a coma at just 1 year old. This profound experience catalyzed her lifelong commitment to understanding the interplay between controllable and uncontrollable factors affecting health. Recognizing the critical role of health in enabling individuals to lead vibrant and purposeful lives, she embarked on a journey to champion well-being. Her career has included working on state and national initiatives in the field of telemedicine, healthcare reimbursement, bioterrorism, disaster management, and public-private partnerships.

A native of Lohrville, Iowa, Jami received her undergraduate degree in community health education from Iowa State University, a master’s in public health, and a master’s in healthcare administration from Des Moines University. Jami and her husband James Peterson live in Des Moines and enjoy scuba diving, biking, hiking and traveling the world.

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jamihaberl

X: twitter.com/HealthiestIowa

Facebook: www.facebook.com/HealthiestIowa

Instagram: www.instagram.com/iowahealthieststate

TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@iowahealthieststate

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Hello listeners! The podcast is taking a short "micro-break" this week. We will be back to the regular schedule beginning next week. In the meantime, please share your thoughts and questions with us for a chance to be featured in an upcoming mailbag episode! As always, you can reach us at podcast@sarahnollwilson.com

We'll be back before you know it with more amazing guests and discussions. Thank you as always for being a part of our conversation!

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest T. Tara Turk-Haynes for a deep dive into the topic of diversity, equity, and inclusion. T. Tara shares the power of truly integrating DEI practices into an organization's processes and operations for greater impact and measurable results.

About Our GuestT. Tara Turk-Haynes is a passionate advocate for diversity, equity, and inclusion. In her role at Leaf Group, she spearheaded the company's DEI journey, introducing impactful programs and resources for individual and group learning. She expanded global awareness of issues affecting underrepresented communities across the company's digital media and marketplace brands. T. Tara chaired Graham Holdings Company's DEI Council and has been recognized as a trusted leader offering valuable perspectives and advice. She has also made significant contributions through virtual events, panel discussions, and featured appearances at prominent conferences and publications.

Website: www.equityactivations.com

X: twitter.com/ttarahaynes

Instagram: www.instagram.com/ttarahaynes

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ttaraturkhaynes

TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@ttarahaynes

The Wake Up by Michelle MiJung Kim: www.michellemijungkim.com/wakeup

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Jen Rafferty as they discuss learning, growth, and behavior change. Topics include emotional intelligence, "toxic positivity," and the neuroscience of change.

About Our GuestEducator, author, and founder of Empowered Educator, Jen Rafferty started as a middle school music teacher for 15 years in Central New York. She is known for bringing her energy, humor and expertise in her presentations while inspiring educators to stay connected to their "why." Jen is a certified Emotional Intelligence Practitioner and is currently a Ph.D. candidate in Educational Psychology.

Since its inception, the Empowered Educator has reached teachers and school leaders all over the world. Jen has been featured in Authority Magazine, Medium, Thrive Global, Wellness Voice, Best Holistic Life, and was on the TEDx stage with her talk, Generational Change begins with Empowered Teachers. She is also the host of the podcast, Take Notes with Jen Rafferty, which is rated in the top 3% of podcasts globally.

Jen's insatiable curiosity continues to make the Empowered Educator programs relevant and reflective of the most up-to-date research in mindset, leadership, and cognitive neuroscience. She is committed to inspiring teachers and school leaders to discover their voice and maintain a healthy longevity throughout their careers.

Website: www.empowerededucator.com

Email: hello@empowerededucator.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/jenrafferty_

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jen-rafferty-2209b31b7

Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/empowerededucatorfacultyroom

Podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/take-notes-with-jen-rafferty/id1562606342

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Gilmara Vila Nova-Mitchell for a discussion on the ways in which leaders can influence the growth and development of the people they serve.

About Our GuestFor almost two decades, Gilmara Vila Nova-Mitchell has been helping organizations and leaders become more effective and inclusive through her engaging diversity and inclusion professional learning sessions, leadership development programs and equity & cultural proficiency coaching. Gilmara has worked with HR managers, chief diversity officers, and other leaders to create more inclusive work environments. Gilmara has collaborated with organizations from the private and public sector, in a variety of industries. Gilmara has supported organizations develop strategic plans, create equity driven monitoring tools, create more inclusive cultures, and learn more about equity-driven leadership . Born in Brazil, Gilmara moved to the United States in 2001. She holds a Bachelor of Multicultural Education from FUMEC University (Brazil) and a MSE in School Counseling from Drake University. Gilmara has a focused her doctoral studies in Organizational Behavior with a focus on trust in the workplace.

Website: www.sarahnollwilson.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/gilmara-vila-nova-mitchell

Email: gilmara@sarahnollwilson.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Karen Eber as they revisit the topic of storytelling, exploring it through the lens of Karen's latest book, The Perfect Story: How to Tell Stories That Inform, Influence, and Inspire.

About Our GuestKaren Eber is an author, leadership consultant, and keynote speaker. Her TED Talk on how your brain responds to stories continues to inspire millions. Her book, The Perfect Story: How to Tell Stories That Inform, Influence, and Inspire, was selected as a Next Big Ideas Club must-read and published with HarperCollins this October.

As the CEO and Chief Storyteller of Eber Leadership Group, Karen helps Fortune 500 companies like GE, Microsoft, and Kate Spade build leaders, teams, and culture, one story at a time.

She guest lectures at universities including MIT, London Business School, and Stanford. She is a former Head of Culture, Learning, and Leadership Development at GE and Deloitte and frequently contributes to and is featured in Fast Company, MSN, Quartz, Entrepreneur, NY Post, Forbes, NPR, and Business Insider.

The Perfect Story Book: www.kareneber.com/book

Website: www.kareneber.com

Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/kareneber

Instagram: www.instagram.com/kareneber1

Twitter: www.twittter.com/kareneber1

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest "Coach Nick" Papadopoulos as they explore questions of personal identity. How much of our identities do we define based on expectations of, and comparisons to, other people? How can we go about redefining success?

About Our GuestNicholaos “Coach Nick” Papadopoulos is an author, speaker, executive coach, facilitator, consultant and disruptor who’s committed to inspiring leaders, teams and people to live life purposefully and to transform the world. An energetic and charismatic speaker, Coach Nick has been a keynote speaker nationally on the topics of transformation, men, inclusion, culture engagement and leadership.

Coach Nick is committed to male transformation so that men redefine what it means to be a man therefore showing up differently in today’s world. He’s been successfully running Men’s Groups and retreats for over 14 years and currently facilitates two groups. He’s had a Top-25 ranked podcast in delivering male driven, transformational and leadership topics called Dudes of Disruption.

Coach Nick currently lives in New York City and serves in a senior leadership role at a healthcare organization. During his career, he has consistently delivered transformational and organizational change that gives today’s most forward-thinking leaders and their organizations unique ways to generating high performing cultures that produces change and results never imagined before.

Coach Nick’s strengths lie in delivering leadership and team development, organizational consulting and culture engagement which are all designed to align leadership teams, inspire people to connect to something larger than themselves and to create highly inspired environments where teams are deeply engaged in a culture of collaboration, accountability, learning and recognition.

Website: www.coachnick.com

Email: coachnick@coachnick.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/coachnick

Instagram: www.instagram.com/coachnicknyc

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Paul T. Ruiz as they discuss all things... people! From honoring emotions to repairing damaged relationships, Sarah and Paul explore some of the ways leaders can be intentional about prioritizing their people. About Our Guest Paul T. Ruiz helps leaders in times of growth, change, and uncertainty. He uses approaches from human-centered design tools and methods, leadership agility, conversational intelligence, and narrative coaching technologies. His work is his passion. For fun and well being, he cooks, practices yoga, and plays golf. His joy is his wife, Janise, and their teenage sons, Luc and Franco. Website: http://www.leadersintransition.phInstagram: www.instagram.com/paultenceruiz

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Teresa Peterson as they explore the power of unlearning, and how identifying and "pruning" old beliefs, behaviors, and thought patterns can be the key to greater growth and learning.

About Our GuestDr. Teresa Peterson is the Director of Learning and Development for Sarah Noll Wilson, Inc. In her daily work, she serves as Sarah’s key content collaborator. Teresa enjoys facilitating, researching, and is passionate about applying best practices for learning to make our experiences meaningful, engaging, and accessible for all types of learners. Teresa holds a Doctorate in Education from the University of Northern Iowa and brings over twenty years of experience teaching, facilitating, and leading to our team. Our clients love Teresa’s grounded energy, depth of thought, and ability to listen deeply.

Email: teresa@sarahnollwilson.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/teresa-peterson-EdD

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Emilie Aries for a deep dive conversation around workplace gender dynamics and the challenges women face in the realm of corporate leadership.

About Our GuestEmilie Aries is a speaker, podcaster, author, and the Founder & CEO of Bossed Up, an award-winning leadership development and career services company committed to closing the gender leadership gap. Her book, Bossed Up, serves as a practical roadmap for women who want to set themselves up for sustainable, long-term career success and step up as the boss of their lives.

Website: www.bossedup.org

“Bossed Up” Podcast: www.bossedup.org/podcast

Stop Telling Women They Have Imposter Syndrome by Ruchika Tulshyan and Jodi-Ann Burey:hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-women-they-have-imposter-syndrome

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Jessica McCauley as they discuss the benefits of movement and exercise on both physical and mental health. About Our Guest Born and raised on a farm in Blairsburg, Iowa, Jess McCauley spent her early years in nature, camping, and riding horses. A lover of art, she pursued graphic design at DMACC in Ankeny, IA, before venturing into the food and beverage industry. For 16 years, she worked in various roles – serving, bartending, and managing. This journey not only forged lasting connections, but also provided countless valuable lessons, sparking a passion for connecting with people on a deeper level. Jess began her personal fitness journey 13 years ago, realizing the positive impact exercise had on her mental health and body confidence. Since 2009, Jess has faced injuries stemming from repetitive movement patterns, postural issues, and hypermobility/flexibility challenges. These experiences compelled her to deepen her understanding of her body and refine her workout routine to maximize benefits at every stage of life. In turn, she uses that knowledge to help others in their fitness journey. Certified in behavioral change and correctional exercise, Jess has worked with clients from 3 to 94, believing in the holistic benefits of consistent movement. She advocate that mindful, regular exercise can elevate every aspect of life—physically, mentally, and emotionally. Jess lives with her husband Matt in West Des Moines, IA, with their two dogs, Dexter and Bandit. Instagram: www.instagram.com/jess_move_itFacebook: www.facebook.com/moveitathomeWebsite: www.gymguyz.comTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@jessmovesit

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Glo Rose as they explore the topics of emotional awareness and intelligence for children, and Glo shares her passion and some of the insights she has gained as an author of many books for children and teens.

About Our GuestGlo Rose started writing to create stories for her children that showed them that her love is always with them. She wanted them to know they are not alone, no matter what they face, and that the lessons life teaches them may be challenging, but are worth experiencing to get stronger and wiser.

As her writing developed, Glo wanted her books to help all children understand and be proud of their unique selves. The content grew into assisting children to recognize their emotions, understand that whatever they feel is valid, and explore safe ways to express their feelings to family or social media. Glo Rose Books has developed into a brand about helping children to understand themselves better while navigating this ever-changing world.

Website: www.glorosebooks.com

Glo on Amazon: www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0BJ9SJT3F

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Alexis Haselberger as they reflect on what it really means to be productive, and Alexis shares her fresh approach to time management.

About Our GuestAlexis Haselberger is a time management and productivity coach who helps people do more and stress less through coaching, workshops and online courses. Her pragmatic, yet fun, approach helps people easily integrate practical, realistic strategies into their lives so that they can do more of what they want and less of what they don't. Alexis has taught thousands of individuals to take control of their time and her clients include Google, Lyft, Workday, Capital One, Upwork and more.

Website: www.alexishaselberger.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/alexis-haselberger

Facebook: www.facebook.com/domorestressless

Instagram: www.instagram.com/do.more.stress.less

TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@do.more.stress.less

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh9iAkCALqr3FsKfYOqjb3Q

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and returning guest Erica Reed, LCSW-C, as they dig deeper into the topic of trauma informed leadership, and Erica shares her LENS framework to help leaders improve their abilities to lead in an emotionally intelligent way.

About Our Guest

Erica N. Reed, LCSW-C is a Psychotherapist and Workplace Wellness Expert, specializing in helping corporate leaders retain diverse professionals by leading with empathy. Erica is founder and CEO of Leading Well Solutions, which helps managers become inclusive leaders with higher levels of emotional intelligence, improved communication skills, and the ability to optimize the unique strengths of employees.

Leading Well Solutions' training, coaching, and consulting services are provided through the lens of Trauma Informed Leadership. This perspective considers the unique lived experiences of the workforce and how stress and trauma impact an organization’s culture of belonging and psychological safety.

Taking her clinical and training expertise to the classroom, Erica is an Adjunct Professor at Catholic University of America. Erica’s experience as a college professor provides a unique understanding of adult learning styles and she designs training curriculums where everyone in attendance can easily understand and immediately implement the actionable strategies provided. Erica’s trainings are engaging and informative...no fluff...just lots of great information to get and keep your attention and energize you to develop and grow.

Website: www.leadingwellsolutions.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ericanreedlcswc

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and the Conversations on Conversations crew for a special year-end reflection, as they discuss some of the conversations and insights that stood out the most to them in 2023.

About Our Guests

Drew Noll is the audio editor of Conversations on Conversations. He is an award-winning sound designer and musician, and he has years of experience as a UX Designer. He is also Sarah's brother.

Nick Wilson is the producer of Conversations on Conversations. He works in media production, including a variety of collaborations with Sarah and the SNOWCO team. He is also Sarah’s husband.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Allison Peet as they discuss the powerful practice of Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction (MBSR).

About Our Guest

Allison Peet is a certified Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) Instructor trained at UMass Center for Mindfulness, founded by Jon Kabat-Zinn, PhD and the Mindfulness Center at Brown University. She is trained through Mindful Schools and is a certified Buteyko Breathing Method instructor and registered yoga instructor (RYT200). She’s taught since 2015 and hundreds have graduated from her MBSR program. Based on a pre and post self-evaluation, 87% of MBSR grads lowered their perceived stress, and reduced stress levels an average of 35%. All of her individual students reduce their stress by an average of half after 8 sessions. Allison completes multiple week-long silent meditation retreats and has a regular practice. The cultivation of mindfulness transformed her relationship with stress and anxiety which motivated her to start her own business in 2015, From Within Wellness, to benefit others.

Website: www.fromwithinwellness.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/allison-peet-b65b825a

Facebook: www.facebook.com/fromwithinwellness

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guests Dr. Sally Winston and Dr. Martin Seif as they explore the often-misunderstood mental health challenge of unwanted intrusive thoughts.

About Our GuestsDr. Sally Winston is the founder and executive director of the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Institute in Baltimore, MD. She is a master clinician who has given sought-after national workshops for therapists for decades. She is a frequent guest on podcasts and webinars. She received the prestigious Jerilyn Ross Award of the Anxiety and Depression Association of America (ADAA) in 2011. Her blog, Living with a Sticky Mind, can be found at PsychologyToday.com. Born in Montreal, Canada, she has three adult daughters, two granddaughters and a Senegalese parrot.

Dr. Martin Seif is is a master clinician who has spent the last thirty five years developing innovative and highly successful treatment methods for anxiety disorders including: Panic Disorder, Agoraphobia, Specific Phobias, Social Anxiety Disorder, and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. He is on the faculty of New York-Presbyterian Hospital, Former Associate Director of the Anxiety and Phobia Treatment Center at White Plains Hospital, a founder of the Anxiety and Depression Association of America, and in private practice in Greenwich, Connecticut.

Together, Dr. Winston and Dr. Seif have co-authored four books: What Every Therapist Needs to Know About Anxiety Disorders, Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts, Needing to Know For Sure, and Overcoming Anticipatory Anxiety.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Tamsen Webster, author of Find Your Red Thread: Make Your Big Ideas Irresistible, for a conversation on the power of effective communication to drive action.

About Our Guest

Part strategist, part storyteller, part English-to-English translator, Tamsen Webster helps experts drive action with their ideas. Tamsen honed her trademark Red Thread approach in and for major organizations like Johnson & Johnson, Harvard Medical School, and Intel, as well as with hundreds of individual founders, academics, and thought leaders. She's a former TEDx Executive Producer and current Idea Strategist. Most recently, Tamsen was named to the Thinkers50 Radar thinkers to watch class of 2022. She's also the author of Find Your Red Thread: Make Your Big Ideas Irresistible.

Website: tamsenwebster.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Elaine Lin Hering as they discuss cultures of silence, why the solution is not as simple as "speak up," and other insights from Elaine's forthcoming book Unlearning Silence: How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully.

About Our GuestElaine Lin Hering is a facilitator, author, and speaker. She works with leaders to diagnose challenges and build capacity in negotiation, influence, and conflict management skills. She has worked on six continents and facilitated executive education at Harvard, Dartmouth, Tufts, UC Berkeley, and UCLA. She is the former Advanced Training Director for the Harvard Mediation Program and a Lecturer on Law at Harvard Law School. She coaches women and minoritized individuals navigating executive leadership in majority white spaces. She is the author of the forthcoming book Unlearning Silence: How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully (Penguin, 2024).

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/elainelinhering

Email: hello@elainelinhering.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Kai Gillespie as they explore a shift away from top-down, one-size-fits-all talent development and toward a more individualized approach.

About Our Guest

Kai Gillespie has been in Learning & Development at IMT Insurance for over 7 years and in the Talent Development field for over 13 years. Kai is originally from Washington, DC and found herself in Iowa after receiving a prestigious full-tuition scholarship to Grinnell College. Needless to say, the move to the Midwest was a culture shock. Kai later received her Master’s of Science in Leadership Development from Drake University.

These days Kai focuses more on organizational development and culture. She is on a mission to make organizations people-focused. Kai likes to have long discussions on the nature of work, people feeling a sense of belonging, and the state of women in hip-hop. She is always up for a coffee date to discuss these topics and more.

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kai-gillespie-msld-48618267

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Natalie E. Norfus as they discuss shifts in work culture, the power of equity and inclusivity, and the human-centered approach that is essential to leading in the modern workplace.

About Our Guest

Natalie is a creative and proven problem solver with nearly 20 years of experience as a labor and employment attorney and HR/DEI practitioner. Natalie partners with employers on DEI and HR strategies, conducts complex internal investigations, and provides coaching and training to Boards of Directors and other senior leaders.

Natalie believes there is no “one-size fits all” approach to HR or DEI initiatives. She uses a metrics-based model to help organizations develop policies, programs and goals that are customized to their needs.

Natalie’s career has touched on many areas of HR and DEI including having: Served as the Chief Diversity Officer for multi-billion-dollar brands with responsibility for setting the strategic vision for all facets of each brand’s DEI initiatives.

  • Worked as outside counsel in large law firms and in-house for before
  • Starting an HR & Inclusion Consulting Firm
  • Worked with employers around the world spanning across various industries including quick services restaurants, non-profit, education manufacturing, financial services, and healthcare

Website: thenorfusfirm.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/natalienorfus

Instagram: www.instagram.com/thenorfusfirm_

“What’s the DEIL?” Podcast: https://thenorfusfirm.com/podcasts/

“What’s the DEIL?” on Instagram: www.instagram.com/whatsthedeil

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest T. Maxine Woods-McMillan, Esq. for a conversation on the rapidly evolving expectations of workers and employers.

About Our Guest

Throughout her career, T. Maxine Woods-McMillan has been known as The Great Translator – finding ways to make parties with differing, and at times, competing interests understand the position of the other. And when that has not been successful, her talented advocacy skills make her equally effective at getting the fact finder in a dispute to see the position of her client. Maxine’s practice focuses on employment law, business dispute resolution, and workplace equity and equality. She represents employees when their rights have been violated and is also a trusted advisor and trainer for employers and their staff to help prevent the violation of those rights before it occurs. She is a compassionate yet formidable advocate in the areas of discrimination on the basis of race, sex, gender, pregnancy, religion, national origin, and age, as well as sexual or racial harassment and wrongful/retaliatory termination. She also brings niche understanding to the distinct dynamic created when the workplace intersects with a family relationship or is a part of a faith community, and is particularly equipped to assist with legal advocacy in those areas. Instagram: www.instagram.com/maxview_esqLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/t-maxine-woods-mcmillan-esq-3147bb6Email: Maxine@AttorneyMaxine.com

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Jacquette M. Timmons as they discuss our relationship with goals - how we set them, how we assess our successes and failures, and how we must reassess and recalibrate them over time.

About Our Guest

Jacquette M. Timmons is on a mission to change how people think, behave, and talk about money. It's why she focuses on the human side of money. She works as a financial behaviorist and is committed to getting you to see that you don't manage money - you manage your choices around money.

In addition to being an author ("Financial Intimacy: How to Create a Healthy Relationship with Your Money and Your Mate”) and frequent blogger, Jacquette is also the creator of Pricing Made Human®. PMH is designed to help entrepreneurs and small business owners tackle the question, "What should I charge for this?," from all sides: the financial, the emotional, the personal, so they can price more confidently, strategically, and end up with a thriving business and thriving life. She also hosts the podcast, "More Than Money."

When she's not providing behavioral-based financial coaching for smart, driven, and curious high-earners, she's traveling the country for speaking engagements on behalf of Fortune 100 companies, AM Law 200 firms, nationally known non-profits and conferences (large & boutique) to talk about the intersection of emotions and money. Her work has been featured on Minnesota Public Radio, SiriusXM, "Good Morning America," Oprah.com, CNN, HLN, FOX, Black Enterprise, NPR, Reuters.com, and the Wall Street Journal.

Jacquette holds an MBA in finance from Fordham University’s Graduate School of Business and an undergrad in marketing from the Fashion Institute of Technology. A combination she credits, in part, for being able to blend her analytical mind and creative spirit in service to helping her clients shift how they look at money; how they perceive its role in their life; and how they give it direction. She lives in Brooklyn, NY and can be seen running in Prospect Park most days of the week.

Website: www.jacquettetimmons.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/jacquettemtimmons

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jacquettetimmons

Resources Mentioned

https://www.jacquettetimmons.com/the-crisis-you-face/

https://www.jacquettetimmons.com/sales-slump/

https://www.jacquettetimmons.com/cultivate-more-flow/

https://www.jacquettetimmons.com/done-differently/

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Katrina Jones for a conversation on personal growth, societal shifts, and the power of embracing uncertainty.

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Hello listeners! The show is taking a short break through the end of September, and we want to take this opportunity to get your input. What have you enjoyed? What has resonated for you? What would you like to hear new or different going forward? Suggestions for future topics or guests? Please reach out to us at podcast@sarahnollwilson.com

We’ll be back in October with more great guests and discussions. Thank you as always for being a part of our conversation!

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Cris Wildermuth for a wide-ranging discussion on leadership, followership, authority, and the concept of Shared Leadership.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Danita High as they explore what it means to create a coaching culture within an organization, and Danita shares some tips and tools from her unique experience blending coaching, employee development, and ministry.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Brandon Springle as they discuss psychological safety, and how organizations and leaders can work to create cultures focused on vulnerability and safety.

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In Part Two of their conversation, Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Tina Opie continue to explore the lessons and themes of Shared Sisterhood, and Dr. Opie introduces the practices of DIG and BRIDGE.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Tina Opie as they discuss the intersection of feminism and racial equity, through the lens of the acclaimed 2022 book Dr. Opie co-authored, Shared Sisterhood: How to Take Collective Action for Racial and Gender Equity at Work.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Neha Sampat as they explore topics related to chronic illness, and Neha shares from her personal experience living with chronic migraine.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Robert Sieger as they discuss some of the tools and practices that leaders can utilize to build a people-first culture.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Ky Matkovich as they discuss apologies, why they can be so difficult, and the importance of considering one's own role in any given situation.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Jen Fisher as the explore the concept of Human Sustainability, with a focus on Jen's holistic strategy to help improve well-being across individuals, organizations, climate and society.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Beth Shelton for a wide-ranging discussion on leadership, as Beth shares the perspectives and experiences that have led her to take innovative action to improve workplace culture and employee wellness.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Uwe Dockhorn as they discuss Uwe's executive coaching practice, and the unique framework he employs to help leaders be their best selves both in the workplace and in their relationships at home.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Janice Chobanuk as they discuss Janice's experiences during her career in healthcare, and what makes her so passionate about providing palliative care for those nearing death.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Teresa Peterson as they discuss the idea of Readiness for Change. What factors can impact people's readiness to learn and change behavior, and what can leaders do to support them?

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Carolon Donnally as they discuss burnout, with a specific focus on the signs and watchouts that can help us catch burnout before it happens.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Michelle Love-Day as they explore some of the factors that can create a culture of avoidance, and offer some tips and resources to help people step forward and challenge such a culture.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Farah Harris as they discuss Farah's new book, The Color of Emotional Intelligence: Elevating Our Self and Social Awareness to Address Inequities.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Kristen Harcourt as they explore what it means to be a conscious leader.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Jason Frishman, PsyD as they discuss Dr. Frishman's JourneyMen program and his work with men's mental health.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Kristin Sauter as they discuss their personal experiences with ADHD, and how they have been changed by their diagnoses.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Gilmara Vila Nova-Mitchell as they discuss the rise of burnout, particularly among executives, and ways in which the job of a leader is evolving.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Sam Eaton for a wide-ranging discussion on the future of work. Topics include emerging technologies, the rapid pace of change, generational shifts, and the importance of imagining new possibilities.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Kirsten Anderson as Kirsten shares insights from her experience as the target of sexual harassment and workplace retaliation, her advocacy journey, and her book More Than Words: Turn #MeToo into #ISaidSomething.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Ryan Dunlap as they discuss Ryan's conflict strategy firm Conflictish, its mission to help people get comfortable with being uncomfortable, and how he helps his clients find the courage to step into conflict.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Geoff Anderson as they explore Geoff's approach to people-first leadership, and some of the experiences that have shaped him along his unique leadership journey.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Andre Young as they discuss the concept of Work Life Harmony, and how it differs from the more traditional idea of work life "balance."

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In Part Two of their conversation, Sarah Noll Wilson and guest T. Maxine Woods-McMillan, Esq. discuss the strategies Maxine recommends to prepare ahead for conflict, based on her experience as both an attorney and a mediator.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest T. Maxine Woods-McMillan, Esq. as they explore conflict. Why do we struggle with conflict? What harm do we cause by trying to avoid it? And how can we better prepare ourselves to deal with difficult situations before they happen?

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Jacquette M. Timmons as they discuss the human side of money. Jacquette shares insights she has gained about people's ever-changing relationships to money, and introduces the concept of financial intimacy.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Nola Simon as they explore the ongoing evolutions of remote and hybrid work, and imagine new possibilities for the future of work.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Liz Nead as they discuss Liz's brush with death, the challenges posed by her continuing recovery, and some of the lessons she has learned along the way.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Julie Turney as they explore some of the unique challenges facing today's HR professionals.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Nika White as they delve into a number of topics related to Dr. White's new book, Inclusion Uncomplicated: A Transformative Guide To Simplify DEI.

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We're back! In her first conversation of the new year, Sarah Noll Wilson welcomes guest Lou Diamond to discuss some of the key concepts and ideas from his new book SPEAK EASY: Connect with EVERY Conversation.

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In the final episode of the year, Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Teresa Peterson reflect on their most important lessons learned and the themes they saw emerge through their work in 2022.

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In Part Two of their conversation, Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Stephanie Chin discuss how preparation can help us when we are faced with difficult conversations. Stephanie leads Sarah through a live role-playing exercise to highlight the value of practice.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Stephanie Chin as they explore some tools and strategies to help navigate difficult conversations.

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Dab or Float, Press or Punch? This week, Sarah shares the basic framework of Laban Movement Analysis (LMA). Rooted in the studies of theatre and dance, LMA can be used in a wide variety of settings to help us understand and identify the different ways we communicate.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Olivia Reinert as they discuss Tourette Syndrome. Olivia shares about her experiences, challenges, and some of the common misconceptions people have about this disorder.

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In part two of their panel discussion, Sarah Noll Wilson and her guests, Dr. Melanie Peacock and T. Maxine Woods-McMillan, Esq., focus on the emotions involved with the termination of employment.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and her guests, Dr. Melanie Peacock and T. Maxine Woods-McMillan, Esq., as they discuss layoffs and firings. How can leaders and organizations approach these difficult situations with more humanity and reduce the harm to all involved?

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In Part Two of their conversation, Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Jen Carolan focus on how we all can plan ahead to help reduce the stress of our loved ones, and explore the evolving choices that are available to people as they consider their unique individual end-of-life wishes.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Jen Carolan as they discuss Jen's role as an End of Life Doula, and explore some of the critical topics we so often avoid around death and dying.

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In Part Two of their conversation, Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Nick Wilson focus on Nick's experience with depression, and some of the lessons they both have learned as they have navigated mental health challenges.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Nick Wilson as they discuss their respective mental health journeys, and what their challenges have taught them about being supportive partners for one another.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Lisa Duerre for a deep and candid discussion on the topics of accessibility and inclusion. Lisa shares openly and vulnerably about her experiences navigating the challenges of a personal health crisis.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Amanda Trosten-Bloom as they define Appreciative Inquiry, explore the principles behind it, and discuss how it can be used as a powerful practice both in our workplaces and in our personal lives.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and guest Dr. Jessie Everts as they discuss some of the mental health challenges faced by new parents, and what leaders and colleagues in the workplace can do to provide meaningful support for those who may be struggling.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Mark LeBusque as they explore what it means to bring humanity to leadership, and the power of understanding others.

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This week, Sarah returns from a longer-than-planned summer break, and previews what's to come in the new season of Conversations on Conversations.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Miha Matlievski as they discuss some of the skills and practices that help leaders show up at their best for their teams.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Neil Miller as they explore the future of work, and both the opportunities and challenges presented by remote and hybrid work.

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Part two of Sarah's discussion with author Tara Jaye Frank on her new book, The Waymakers: Clearing the Path to Workplace Equity with Competence and Confidence. How can organizations and people remove the barriers to equity?

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Part one of Sarah's discussion with author Tara Jaye Frank on her new book, The Waymakers: Clearing the Path to Workplace Equity with Competence and Confidence. What does it mean to be a Waymaker?

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Erik Dominguez as they discuss a topic that is scary for some, public speaking. What barriers hold us back from communicating confidently? Erik shares tips and lessons to help you find your voice and share your unique message.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Neha Sampat as they explore the truth behind Imposter Syndrome, and what goes into creating a culture of belonging.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and “Coach Nick” Papadopoulos as they shine a light on...dudes! The two explore some common challenges facing men, and dig into the work Coach Nick is doing to help redefine masculinity.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Dr. Teresa Peterson as they share helpful tips and dispel common myths around learning and behavior change.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Benjamin Warsinske as they discuss how Benjamin is helping to bring creativity to the workplace through his work as a LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY® Facilitator.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Rachel Sheerin as they define burnout, and explore strategies to help navigate it with compassion for yourself and others.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Karen Eber as they break down the art and science of storytelling, and how stories can serve as a powerful tool in communicating and connecting with others.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Katrina Jones as they explore the challenges of maintaining curiosity, connection, and even joy during difficult times.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Gilmara Vila Nova-Mitchell as they discuss the importance of disagreement, some of the reasons we avoid openly disagreeing with others, and how we can build trusting relationships that encourage differing perspectives.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Dr. Nika White as they explore multiple facets of intentional inclusion.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Erica Reed as they sit down to discuss the ever-increasing importance of trauma-informed leadership.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Anne Tomkinson as they discuss the importance of owning your language in every situation you find yourself in.

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Join Sarah Noll Wilson and Paul Tence Ruiz as they discuss the important role compassion plays in being an effective and empathetic CEO.

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In this week's episode of Conversations on Conversations, I chat with Farah Harris, MA, LCPC, on creating and holding boundaries, the power of emotions in the workplace, and how we can all live well and thrive while working.

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In this week's episode of Conversations on Conversations, Sarah sits down with Dr. Cris Wildermuth to discuss humanizing the workplace, how we can show up as our full selves at work, and more!

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In this week's episode of Conversations on Conversations, Sarah sits down with Dr. Teresa Peterson to discuss the human habit of avoiding tough conversations, what people can do to prepare and have those difficult conversations, and her upcoming book Don't Feed the Elephants!

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Welcome to "Conversations on Conversations"! In this week's episode, Sarah discusses her plans and vision for the podcast and introduces listeners to the importance of having deeper, better conversations with everyone in your life.