The 4th Node: Recent Episodes

Adam Edmunds & Nico Dato

The 4th Node is a podcast that explores the history of technology and business in Utah by discussing some of the most well-known (and most unknown) events and businesses in the state’s history. While many have heard bits and pieces about these topics, many don’t know the stories that shaped the state and business community into what it is today. Starting with ARPA and the University of Utah becoming the 4th node of the internet to early powerhouses like WordPerfect and Novell to today’s modern SaaS companies. The 4th Node Podcast brings historic topics and prominent figures in business and technology together to tell these stories.

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Greg Butterfield joins the podcast to share his unique perspective on the beginning and evolution of Silicon Slopes as it mirrored his dynamic career starting from Word Perfect and Novell and moving to more recent companies like Vivint Solar, and Lumio.

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Todd Pedersen, the ultimate storyteller, joins the pod to discuss his early beginnings in Idaho, his path to entrepreneurship, and the founding of what would become Vivint, Inc.

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Paul Allen joins to discuss his journey founding multiple successful companies including Ancestry.com. He shares the brilliant concept of public domain usage that he's employed throughout his career across different companies.

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Susan Petersen, the CEO of Freshly Picked, shares insights into the journey of launching one of Utah's first direct-to-consumer businesses. She delves into her unique experiences, from gaining an understanding of the benefits of gifting merchandise from Kourtney Kardashian to navigating the challenges of being a female entrepreneur. Since the recording, Susan has resumed the role of CEO at Freshly Picked, adding another exciting chapter to her entrepreneurial story.

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Jeremy Andrus joins the podcast to discuss his path to entrepreneurship and pioneering two large consumer brands in Utah—SkullCandy and Traeger.

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President Randall joins to discuss his focus on entrepreneurism at the University of Utah and, more broadly, his vision for collaboration in higher education.

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David Spafford joins to discuss his experience founding and scaling Megahertz while also building a legacy with his childhood friends.

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Paul Ahlstrom joins to discuss his entry into tech, early venture work within Utah, his charity work .

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Carine Clark joins to discuss the early days of Novell, the rise of the somewhat unknown, but incredibly successful Altiris and her time at Symantec. 

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Bruce Bastian joins to discuss the founding and scaling of WordPerfect, battles with competing companies, and his impressive philanthropic work.

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Tom Stockham joins to discuss the his fathers impressive stamp on tech, being deemed the Father of digital recording", as well as his own career leading iconic companies such as Ancestry, Ticketmaster, and more.

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Part Two: David Bradford and Drew Major join the podcast to discuss the later days of the incredible story of Novell. This episode explores the height of Novell's power, battles with other software superpowers, and a few other unknown stories around Novell.

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Part One: David Bradford and Drew Major join the podcast to discuss the incredible story of Novell. This episode explores the early days of Novell, the hiring of SuperSet, and the beginning of the rise of Novell.

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Part Two: Alan Ashton joins the podcast to discuss the founding and incredible rise of WordPerfect, battles with other word processors of the time, and he and his Karen's work around the community post-WordPerfect.

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Part One: Alan Ashton joins the podcast to discuss his time at the University of Utah with David Evans and Ivan Sutherland and his move to BYU as an early computer science professor. 

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Gail Miller joins to discuss the founding of the Larry H. Miller dealerships, their purchase of the Jazz, and the family and company's incredible involvement and shaping of the Utah community.

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Blake Modersitzki and Jim Dreyfous share their career paths, their experience in trailblazing venture capital in Utah, and more.

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Adam Edmunds and Nico Dato discuss The 4th Node Podcast, their reason for starting it, and a brief history of Utah tech.