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Kate (Disney Cicerone) & Kirk (Walrus Carp)

Exploring the history of the Disney Parks (with a dash of the ridiculous!), Distory with Kate and Kirk is an adventure into the fascinatingly obscure details that have made the Disney parks what they are today.

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WDW’s new fantasyland was not planned to look like the

one we have today.

In this episode of Distory, we visit the dilapidated Fantasyland of the Magic Kingdom of the late 90s and early 2000s to watch how Imagineering’s major overhaul of this land evolved over time. Along the way, we find some lost concepts of major areas that were scrapped, including a Cinderella attraction that is not quite like the one Kate wishes Disney would create. As we finally arrive at the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train concept, we dive into the construction process. Kate walks us through the evolution of the ride vehicles in development, including their fascinating hand-painting process. Kirk discusses the construction on a larger scale, walking us through the assembly of this E-ticket attraction. We also both share some of our other Disney projects and wax nostalgic about the first time we met each other IRL (in real life).

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Is this the most unhinged attraction that Disney has ever created?

In this episode of Distory, we head back to the 1971 version of Snow White’s Adventures in Walt Disney World. We start by finding ourselves in a dark dwarf’s cottage (with a bizarre guest) before encountering many MANY jump scares by the terrifying witch, whose hands have a secret. We race through the mine before discovering a crazy scene that is not in the original film and make a connection between its ending and the 1958 Alice in Wonderland dark ride. After we escape, we move forward in time to the 1994 version of Snow White’s Scary Adventures, finding the ways Imagineering tried to make this ride less scary and more like the original film. Much to Kirk’s chagrin, Kate talks about the history of turtlenecks, ponders the different looks of princes, and gives us some mirror lessons before we say goodbye to this bizarre classic attraction.

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What made the WDW 1971 version of Snow White’s Adventures the most scary version of them all?

In this episode of Distory, we head to Walt Disney World’s Fantasyland to be terrified by the 1971 attraction Snow White’s Adventures. We start by discussing the Towering Talent of Claude Coats and his influence in these classic attractions, and do a quick tour of some lost Fantasyland ride concepts before heading into Snow White’s Adventures. On our way, we encounter a poorly-dressed queen, some throne history (and confusion), identify a dungeon spider, and encounter some creepy eyes and trees. We hear about how Disney covered up some mistakes in Snow White’s animation, Kirk regales us with his Sleepy Hollow dreams, and Kate admits something she hopes she never has to do again.

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How did Imagineering fix a major flaw in Snow White's Scary Adventures?

In this episode of Distory, we head back to Snow White's Enchanted Wish to discover some details that no one notices in the attraction. As we ride through the second half of this iconic ride, we compare and contrast the previous iteration of Snow White's Scary Adventures with the changes that were made to make the storytelling honor the 1937 feature film. Along the way, Kate talks about the history of door knockers and crystal balls, Kirk investigates some gargoyles, and we find a beautiful tree with a secret meaning (and a few others wearing rather odd disguises).

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What tiny detailed changes did Imagineering make to this iconic ride that most people miss?

In this episode of Distory, we do a side-by-side comparison of Snow White’s Scary Adventure and the first half of Snow White’s Enchanted Wish, going over all of the many changes between the two versions of this attraction. Along the way, we hear from Imagineering about how they respected the history of this ride and the classic animation as they enhanced the story to make it appealing to modern audiences. Kate shares a few obscure stories about the making of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs from the original 1937 animators, Kirk verifies some diamonds in the mine (and gets annoyed at others), we both get a little confused by a pie, and we find a new location for some old bread (that no one ever notices.)

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Why does the Evil Queen have such a large collar? And how did guest behavior change the way this ride was structured?

In this episode, we dig dig dig into the history of Disneyland's Snow White's Scary Adventures, including the meaning behind some significant scenes. Throughout our ride through this terrifyingly delightful attraction, we encounter some obscure animation history, discover the origins of evil old women, and go deeper into why there are so many dungeon scenes. Kirk talks about buildings with chicken legs, cauldrons, and wooden crocs, and Kate discusses Walt's hatred of purple, the backstory behind a very cute little turtle, and explains why the witch is so over-the-top dramatic in the original animated feature.

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What was the real reason Disneyland’s Fantasyland rides were expanded in 1983?

In this episode of Distory, we time travel to Disneyland in the early 1980s to look at some original WED Imagineering documents that tell the story of New Fantasyland’s construction, including Snow White’s Scary Adventures. From demolition to the inspiration for the new design, we discuss the changes from Walt’s Fantasyland to the updated version before heading inside the attraction to find a (purposefully) frightening queue, a fascinating (for Kirk) stump, and an early ride concept that didn’t actually come to pass. In the dwarf's cottage, Kate gets on several soapboxes, we marvel at the dwarf’s shaving rituals, and Kirk enlightens us about the unique candle holder that Snow White is carrying as she heads to bed.

(Note: We had to pause this episode earlier than planned due to some unpredictable weather knocking out our wifi, but we will be back after D23 with the rest of Disneyland's Snow White’s Scary Adventures!)

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Why do Disney’s Snow White rides have so many dungeon scenes?

In this episode of Distory, we continue our Snow White series by braving the original Disneyland Snow White ride called Snow White and Her Adventures (or Snow White’s Adventures, it didn’t seem to matter much back then, so pick your favorite). After seeing some concept art that doesn’t stray too far from the feature film, we hear from Arrow Development about the unique development of this opening day ride, find some mural seams, and geek out over a camouflaged operator station. Heading into the ride, we are creeped out by a tiny Dopey, find a connection back to the Haunted Mansion, and meet a skeleton named Oswald. We find some more scary trees, talk about witch variations, and end the episode with Kirk insisting that he will always call the witch a hag (despite Kate’s numerous evidence that the name is incorrect).

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Who was Snow White's mother? And what other critical information is missing from the feature film?

In this episode of Distory, we start a new series on the history of the Snow White attractions of the Disney parks. But before we can discuss the rides, we have to pay homage to the first-ever full-length feature animation that made it all possible: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. In this episode, we take a journey back in time to learn why Snow White was first, what story elements you might have missed without more context, some missing scenes, and more than a few rejected dwarf names. We discuss the innovative use of rotoscoping and the multiplane camera and hear from the animators themselves about their experience working on the film. We end this episode with some inspiring words from Walt Disney himself and spend a few moments reflecting on the importance of not giving up even when others don’t believe in your dream.

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Is there a superior version of Pirates of the Caribbean in the US Disney parks?

In this episode of Distory, things get a little heated as we debate which version of Pirates of the Caribbean is best: Disneyland or Walt Disney World. Using historical stories, statistical facts, and present-day perspectives, we both try to prove that one ride clearly comes out ahead. Along the way, we have some fun telling a few new tales about this beloved attraction, from Yale Gracey’s unique practical effects to how specific smells impact our DIsney experience. This unique episode is filed with bits and pieces of treasure when it comes to Disney history, and we hope you enjoy debating along with us as we each make a case for which ride is the superior version (and since Kate wrote this, its so obviously Disneyland’s version).

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What joke is present in Disneyland Paris's Big Thunder that most guests don't notice?

We’ve come to the end of our epic 20-episode series featuring Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, but we have time for one final ride on a runaway train as we hop aboard the best version of this attraction in Disneyland Paris. As promised, Kirk packs us some miner's lunches before we talk about a mistake Tony Baxter fixed, some lost Audio Animatronic miners, a piece of mining equipment that surprises us by being in all four versions, and a possum’s anatomically impossible actions. We also hear a bizarre poem about beans, speculate on the meaning of some mining tools, and explain some foreshadowing elements that many overlook. We end this series looking back on some of our favorite moments and takeaways and feel a little sad to watch the train pull into the station after such a wild ride in the wilderness.

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How is the Tower of Terror connected to Disneyland Paris's Big Thunder Mountain Railroad?

In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we continue our exploration of the "crown jewel" of all the Big Thunder Mountain Railroads, the one in Disneyland Paris. After a brief discussion of concept and construction, we check out all of Pat Burke’s amazing antiques in the queue, including a few with some surprising stories. From a coveted piece of rare machinery to a tribute to one of WED’s great model makers, this queue was meant to be the pinnacle of all the versions of Big Thunder. After waxing nostalgic about stamp mills and woodstoves, we continue down to the loading dock where Kirk is delighted by a particular prop. Kate gets embarrassed by an accidental turn of phrase, Kirk makes fun of how she says pan, and we laugh way too much as we near the finale of our Big Thunder Mountain series.

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What hidden stories can be found in the trees in Disneyland?

In the Distorian's Lounge with Kate this week, we tell some tree-mendous tales of unique trees in Disneyland that all have stories to tell. From secret tributes to almost-stolen trees, trees acquired on a budget, and others that hold special meaning for all of us, this episode is full of unique, obscure Disneyland landscaping that will change the way you see the park. We also take some detours to talk shady plant practices, feral cats, and emergency costume changes, before ending our tour with the tragedies and triumphs of the Swiss Family Robinson.

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What makes Disneyland Paris's Frontierland the BEST version of all Disney parks?

In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we arrive at the "crown jewel" of all the Big Thunder Mountain Railroads in our series, the one that graces an island in Disneyland Paris. But in order to understand what makes this mountain the best version that Tony Baxter and the Imagineering team ever created, we have to first understand the context of Disneyland Paris's Frontierland as a whole. As we dig into the concepts and backstories that made this unique land magnificent, we also uncover some unusual movie connections, strange foreshadowing signs, secret tributes, and a few throwbacks to Disney's rich history. We also discover why barns are red, how the O.K. Corral got its name, and why priceless art was removed from one of the restaurants. Kate accidentally says some embarrassing turns of phrase, Kirk talks about edible gold nuggets and we both get excited over some old dinosaur bones.

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What secret tributes can be found in Big Grizzly Mountain to several attractions that came before it?

In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we laugh our way through the creative storytelling of Hong Kong Disneyland's Big Grizzly Mountain Runaway Mine Cars. Starting with the backstory of Grizzly Gulch's resident bears (and a huge gold nugget), we then move through into the ride to find some incredible details in the queue that not only honor Chinese culture but are also a throwback to the detailed history of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad that we've been uncovering throughout this series. Kirk asks some inappropriate questions about bears, Kate laughs at his fictional niece, we learn a little about sawmills and stoves, and find some magnificent crates that hold a few nods to previously explored places. After going for a thrilling ride in an unlucky mine, we meet three curious bears, remember Marc Davis, and find a number that has reversed its meaning from the one we found in Disneyland's Big Thunder.

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What piece of Disney history is hanging in Tokyo's Big Thunder Mountain?

On this episode of Distory, we wrap up our visit to Westernland in Tokyo Disneyland as we hop aboard a runaway train and compare the layout of this version of Big Thunder Mountain with the ones found in Disneyland and Magic Kingdom parks. Along the way, we talk homesteading, sludgy pancakes, cowboy coffee, and bats (both with and without strings). We then travel over to Hong Kong’s Grizzly Gulch where we discover some nods to Disneyland’s history hidden in this miniature version of Frontierland. After a tour of the town and its backstory, we meet a very Lucky dog, a giant nugget, grab some (not so) traditional mining food, and meet a man named Tiny who did a little too much skylarking. We end this episode by going off the rails on a nautical etymology tangent, with Kirk getting irritated at Kate for mixing metaphors when it comes to dad jokes.

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What celebration in Disney history wasn't really a celebration?

We’re celebrating 100 episodes of Distory with Kate & Kirk with a fun episode dedicated to six unique celebrations throughout all of Disney history! Kirk’s three stories take us (via a few hats) to a galaxy far, far away, a nauseating (or creative?) overlay, and a long-forgotten magical tribute. Kate’s three stories head back a bit further (as usual) and involve some jealousy over a tiny hat, kidnapping a public figure, and a trip back to the Haunted Mansion for a (non?) celebration we have never discussed before. We also spend a few moments reminiscing about what 100 episodes has meant to us , where we've been, and expressing our deep appreciation for our Distory friends who are journeying along with us with each episode on this crazy podcast ride.

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Walt insisted on having THIS on main street USA... and now it’s gone.

In the Distorian's Lounge with Kate this week, we explore the unique history of Disneyland’s West Center Street. Starting with some beautiful (but plastic) displays, we discover the reason for the pickle cart on East Center Street, take a ride in the Carnation milk truck with Walt, find some bizarre cheeseburgers, and discuss medical antiques from the 1800s that used to have a home in Disneyland. Along the way, we’ll tell a few side stories about C.V. Wood, getting sponsors to pay for Disneyland, and exactly why the shops are so small on Main Street U.S.A.

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Is Tokyo Disneyland's Big Thunder really just a copy of the U.S. Disney parks?

On this episode of Distory, we head overseas to the wilds of Westernland in Tokyo Disneyland to attempt to dig up some history of Disney’s third iteration of Big Thunder Mountain. Along the way, we briefly discuss how this park came to be, find some new mining equipment we haven’t seen before (and some we have), get excited about a foos engine and Pelton wheel, and debate way too long about possible tram buckets on blueprints. We hear from Pat Burke about how Big Thunder brought him closer to Michael Jackson, Kirk struggles to pronounce various geological names, and we hear an oration of a patent for a tool you’ll never see the same again. Kate waters some borax mules, Kirk finds a monocled robot, and all our detailed research makes us pause right before loading onto the Big Thunder trains, which means we’ll have to hop aboard the actual ride on our next episode.

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What story is the mining equipment telling us on Big Thunder Mountain?

On this episode of Distory, we complete our ride through of Walt Disney World’s Big Thunder Mountain, pausing to notice all the details and history along the way. We begin by discussing what Kirk calls the “Ram Trick” (and Kate insists is not a thing) before discovering an abandoned mine, a dangerous saw, and a few somewhat lackluster special effects (including why they are lackluster). As we hold on tight during this wild ride of an episode, we collect some facts about rocker boxes, miner’s moss, and how weather affects geothermal activity, before slowing down to spy the roundhouse and a blacksmith area that almost everyone misses. Kirk sings a little karaoke, Kate is too gullible when it comes to his jokes, and we share some thoughts about Marc Davis’s legacy and our own pursuit of what matters.

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Why is the mine in Big Thunder named Dave V. Jones?

And who exactly is dancing in the Gold Dust Saloon?

On this episode of Distory, we step aboard the Big Thunder Mountain trains in Walt Disney World to ride through the attraction, pointing out obscure history, details, and hidden gems along the way. After dodging some rubber bats and admiring some old cacti, we make a U-turn into the Town of Tumbleweed, at the very heart of all of this Big Thunder’s storytelling. From repurposed critters to sinking dad jokes and an important mess that everyone misses, this town is jam-packed full of Marc Davis nods and creative storytelling that most people miss. After petting the pigs goodbye, we head into the nautical-themed mine, find a connection back to the queue, and second-guess something we found back in Disneyland’s version of the ride. Kate disappoints Kirk by knowing a secret already, and Kirk throws it back with some old tunes and movie references before we come to a screeching halt at the bottom of B lift (to be continued next week).
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Is there a hidden canary in Big Thunder’s queue?

This episode of Distory is truly for the birds as we head into the ventilation room of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad in Walt Disney World. As we finish our exploration of the queue, we discuss one of the oldest popular forms of animation from the 1800s, resuscitate some canaries, and find some very dangerous rocks. Kate discovers a few more connections to the Apple Dumpling Gang (which Kirk clearly loves) and we both puzzle over a few items we have yet to figure out in the queue. Inching our way closer to getting on this wild ride, we both start to lose it as Kate resists the urge to be a completionist and Kirk contemplates investing in sticking tommies. But we are both delighted by something in the load area that no one ever notices (but hopefully will now).

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What if we’ve all been missing the most important storytelling elements of Big Thunder Mountain?

In this episode of Distory, we go antiquing in Walt Disney World’s Big Thunder Mountain queue to uncover some mining history that is critical to understanding the storytelling of this iconic attraction. Along the way, we uncover some unsafe mining practices, find items that are from the “future,” comb through a dishonest foreman’s log, and discover dozens of details most people miss as they shuffle through the queue too fast to fully notice them. We also hear a harrowing tale from Kate’s dad about what it was like to actually be on a runaway mine train, and Kirk regales us with stories of bustles and foot binding as we find out what happened to Slue-Foot Sue. From derpy buffalo to explosive Imagineers and a woman smuggling gold in her petticoats, this episode will make you wish you had MORE time waiting in line for Big Thunder Mountain to see all of what you’ve been missing.

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Are there tommy knockers in Big Thunder Mountain?

And what movie do you NEED to watch to understand this queue?In this episode of Distory, we inch our way through the queue of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad in Walt Disney World. But we don’t get very far; in fact, there are so many hidden details and secrets in just the foreman's office that this entire episode is dedicated to that space alone. As we take in all of the hidden mining (and Disney) history, references, and secrets, we realize that one Disney movie above all else is mentioned way more times than we expected, and is a must-watch for any Distorian who wants to understand the queue of this iconic attraction. On our visit to the Big Thunder Mining company office, Kate points out an inconsistency with a wood stove, Kirk explains the mystery of Tommy Knockers, we both go a little cross-eyed trying to read the town bulletin board, and Kirk gets irritated with Kate (but she wins him over by talking about lamps).

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What item in Big Thunder's queue has significant ties to both American and Disney history?

In this episode of Distory, we go off the rails as we explore the spectacular beginnings of Walt Disney World’s Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. From unbelievable vistas of an underdeveloped Frontierland to absurd mining jokes, we follow the early history of this iconic attraction through its opening day before heading to the beginning of the queue. From there, we have some fun unpacking even the smallest details of the outdoor queue area, including explaining how the set design illustrates the official backstory in ways you might not have noticed before. As we come around the bend toward the entrance, Kirk finds a way to trick Kate about a rusty bucket, Kate gets irritated at him for not listening, and we take an extended side trip to Joshua Hendy Iron Works to discover some men who helped shape the Disney parks as we know them.

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What parts of Disneyland’s Big Thunder Mountain Railroad were borrowed from somewhere else?In this episode of Distory, we hop aboard Disneyland’s Big Thunder Mountain Railroad for a complete ride-through of the attraction from load to unload, analyzing each scene for the hidden history it holds. From the history of gas lamps to the bones of Dinosaur Gap and everything in between, this episode is as wild as it gets, including real remnants from America’s gold mines, missing smoke effects, exploding livestock, and a very plaintive opossum. Along the way, we find a few pieces from Mine Train Through Nature’s Wonderland, talk about some changing water, and solve a few mysteries we’d considered in previous episodes. After an Irish serenade by Kate and Kirk doing his best Don Knotts impression, we splash down at the end of the ride and say goodbye to Disneyland with a secret Walt tribute and a story about a dramatically torn Disney fence.

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How is the People Mover (and Indiana Jones) related to Big Thunder Mountain?

In this episode of Distory, we chug along in our story of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad in Disneyland as we highlight some of the unique processes and features of its construction. Though this episode had a few bumps in the rails (our audio/video had a glitch - sorry about that!) we still walk through the stories and secrets of the queue, including some antiques, superstitions, nods to other Big Thunders around the world, and an odd feature borrowed from another Disneyland attraction (and then subsequently adopted accidentally into a major movie franchise). As we come into the station (literally), we get angry at some trash cans, search for vultures, learn a thing or two about a logo, and discover a bizarre walrus that makes Kirk nervous. We end this episode at the beginning (of the ride, that is) where a few horseshoes and a little-noticed plaque will keep you busy the next time you’re waiting for the wildest ride in the wilderness.

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How did Walt Disney inspire the design of Disneyland's Big Thunder Mountain?

In this episode of Distory, we head back to Disneyland to learn about how Imagineer Tony Baxter had to adapt the design of the iconic Big Thunder Mountain for a park it wasn’t intended for. Along the way, we learn the truth about some fossilized wood, dust off a few old National Geographic magazines for inspiration, and hear the original backstory of Jason Chandler. We also take a side trip to Discovery Bay and explore how Geyser Falls (and then Geyser Mountain) would have tied in thematically with the attraction we know and love today. Kirk takes notes on Kate’s begrudging acceptance of a former Disney CEO, Kate waxes poetic about how we view fear in rides and impossibility, and somewhere along the way Missy Elliott’s (fictional) influence on Big Thunder’s ride layout forever changes the way we view attraction.

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How many ideas for Big Thunder Mountain are simply recycled old ones?

In this episode of Distory, we keep chugging along in our Big Thunder Mountain series as we start by saying goodbye to Mine Train Through Nature’s Wonderland (but not before we learn a few lost concepts in an attempt to save it, some of which we see today in the current Big Thunder). After tearing down Cascade Peak and mentioning where a few of the animals made a new home, we hop over to Walt Disney World to learn about the largest never-built show structure in Disney’s history, Thunder Mesa. After some twists and turns on a (boring?) version of a runaway mine train, we roll to a stop as Tony Baxter takes the reins from Marc Davis and sketches the first concepts for the Big Thunder we know it today (well, before it was shelved and then built elsewhere). We take a rabbit trail to Pirates to debate what park wears it best, and Kirk derails Kate’s transitions as he recovers from climbing Everest on the Swiss Family Treehouse. Join us LIVE on TikTok every Fridayat 5:30pm Pacific/8:30pm Eastern for more Distory!

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What was the most successful (and disastrous) animatronic that Disney ever made?

In this episode of DIstory, we once again hop aboard Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland in Disneyland as we continue this series about the origins of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. After rounding Cascade Peak and learning about a significant waterfall, we head into bear country to spy some itchy bears, piston fish, and a scary trestle. After hearing an incredibly offensive joke near the Olympic Elk and spending way too long trying to find a red-tailed hawk, we move along to the Living Desert, where Kirk is scared by snakes and Kate gets schooled about Peccaries. Through it all, we point out some pieces of this classic attraction that still exist today that you can look for the next time you’re in Disneyland.

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How are the animals of Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland significant to Disney's history?And why did Disney paint the mine train yellow?In this episode of DIstory, we explore the history of Nature's Wonderland in Disneyland as we chug along in this series about the origins of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. We begin with the transition from Rainbow Caverns Mine Train, discussing some technological improvements (including a few from NASA) that had a massive impact on the attraction's additions. After a brief visit to Rainbow Ridge, we hop aboard our yellow train and head to Beaver Valley, where we meet some friendly beavers and learn how they came to life. After laughing way too much at beaver's antics, we learn the price of a raccoon, hear about Walt's marmot grooming preferences, and hear a joke that made the women on the mine train blush.

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What inspired the little mining town of Rainbow Ridge?

On this episode of Distory, we hold on (loosely?) to our hats and glasses as we embark on the slow-moving Rainbow Cavern’s Mine Train, one of the predecessors of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. Along the way, we point out some of our favorite sights in the painted desert, including a bizarre group of 7 Dwarfs, a teeny tiny cabin, dangerous rock formations, miniature pueblos, and, of course, the famous Rainbow Caverns themselves. Kirk also loses it over the sound of a “magical” instrument, and Kate points out the origin of a famous Walt quote and also where we get a well-known sign in Radiator Springs.

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What mistake did Disney make that changed their plans for Frontierland?

On this episode of Distory, we get ready for the wildest ride in the wilderness as we start a new series all about the history of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. But the runaway mine train we all know and love is only part of the story when it comes to Big Thunder. We start our journey at the very beginning in Disneyland’s early Frontierland, taking a ride on some mules, stagecoaches, and (many) wagons before rolling to a stop at the beginning of Rainbow Caverns Mine Train. Kate gets on a few soapboxes about her home state and something people often mix up when talking about the mine train, Kirk won’t stop talking about wagons, and a good time is had by all as we begin to excavate the rich history of this iconic ride.

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Even if you think you’ve heard it all about Disneyland, you’ve probably NEVER heard about this.

In the Distorian's Lounge with Kate this week, we do a deep dive into the history of Disneyland’s abandoned Chinatown concept, exploring how it impacted some of the most iconic attractions in Disney history. Along the way we meet an animatronic you’ve likely never heard of, sit down for a meal in a unique (and sometimes offensive) Chinese restaurant, and learn a little bit of philosophy. We also dig into some history of Los Angeles for context and find an extremely rare never-built Anaheim theme park.

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What if Disney animation didn’t start with a mouse, but something else entirely?

In this episode of Distory, we couldn’t agree on what Disney history to talk about, so we decided to each bring three of our favorite holiday-themed stories to share with you as this Christmas season comes to a close. From a very important pair of boots to some odd-looking costumes, a missing star to the origins of a beloved Christmas party, this episode has all the laughs, the feels, and some deep thoughts that might just change the way you view Main Street USA.

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What remnants from the Jingle Cruise can you still find in Disneyland?

In this episode of Distory, we wrap our Jingle Cruise series with some festive stories of the origins of Christmas traditions that the skippers have carried on in the jungle. After visiting some beribboned snakes, new years babies, and festive headhunters in Disneyland, we sail on over to Disney World where we talk eggnog, wassailing, Santa hats, reindeer, and many more details you won’t want to miss the next time you embark on your holiday tour with the Jungle Navigation Company.

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What secrets are hidden in the fruitcake of the Jingle Cruise?

In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we go a wasSAILing into the festive waters of Disneyland’s Jingle Cruise history. Along the way, we find some unique period staging, a VERY long naughty list, some changing boat names, and a few mischievous baboons. This episode is also stuffed full of fruitcake facts you never knew you needed, some stories from Imagineers who created the overlay, and all the details you might have missed in this fun adventurous holiday overlay (that we all miss dearly).

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What do pigeons, gingerbread, aliens, ghosts, snoap, & rotting fish all have to do with each other?

Well, not much, except for the fact that they all have their place in Disney history.

In this madcap ride of a Distory episode, we celebrate Thanksgiving by taking a journey through Disney history, sampling a few of our favorite stories along the way. From pigeon mishaps to the origins of snoap, we’ve hand-selected six obscure Disney topics that we are thankful for to share. Along the way we encounter some oddly shaped gingerbread, a 12-year-old boy who spent his days on Tom Sawyer Islandm and remember one of the most terrifying rides in Disney history.

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How did Disney Studios inspire a national Christmas tradition?

And when was “Mele Kalikimaka” first used?

In this episode of Distory, we discuss the history of Disney’s It’s a Small World Holiday overlay and explore the fascinating origins of many of our favorite holiday traditions! From gingerbread to pinatas, ribbon candy to poinsettias, this episode is stuffed with Christmas history facts sure to delight any Disney history fan. We also go over a hidden celebrity in some of the holiday overlays, talk about changes in the attraction over the years, see a creepy clock, sing a few festive songs, and learn the truth about some traditional British wardrobes.

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What does a lost black cat, angry neighbors, and a Supreme Court case have to do with one of Hollywood Studio's extinct attractions?

In this episode of Distory, we bring back the much-missed Osborne Spectacle of Dancing Lights for one more glimpse of Holiday magic. Starting with its humble beginnings of 1,000 lights in Arkansas, this spectacle had its share of growing pains (and lawsuits) before it moved to Disney-MGM Studios and became a memorable Christmas tradition every year for thousands of Disney fans. From scavenger hunts to technological advances through the years, we dig deep into the meaning of this special attraction and explain where you can still (sort of) see it today.

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Why do all the characters in Phantom Canyon look so familiar?

In this episode of Distory, we mosey on into the town of Phantom Canyon where playful spooks are having a (western-themed) swinging wake. As we inch through this fascinating alternative to the Haunted Mansion graveyard scene, we compare Marc Davis’s and Mary Blair’s original concept art for Western River Expedition to what made it into Phantom Manor, find some familiar faces, and discover stories from Victorian literature that inspired this spooky netherworld. After telling a few ghost stories of our own and flying through the vortex, we escape the manor only to find ourselves in Boot Hill cemetery, which has its own sordid history laced with scandal and mystery.

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Books we mention in this episode:

⁠⁠The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic⁠⁠

⁠⁠Marc Davis in His Own Words⁠⁠

Disneyland Paris Phantom Manor Decrypted

⁠⁠Kate's books on Amazon⁠⁠

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What secrets are hidden in the shadows of the Phantom Manor?

And why should you pay attention to a specific tree?

In this episode of Distory, we waltz into the ballroom of Disney’s Phantom Manor in Disneyland Paris, investigating some moldy cakes, scary makeup, and a moving Phantom. We then move into Melanie Ravenswood’s boudoir, finding hidden storytelling around the room cloaked in shadow and often easily missed. We also listen to Melanie’s lament and visit the history behind her mournful song before heading out the window and down into the catacombs. After waving to a dog inspired by the US Haunted Mansions, we try to make sense of the actions of a few creepy bones and discover some missing singing busts, one of which is not quite so missing in the original versions of the Haunted Mansion.

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Books we mention in this episode:

⁠The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic⁠

⁠Marc Davis in His Own Words⁠

Disneyland Paris Phantom Manor Decrypted

⁠Kate's books on Amazon⁠

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How does Disney make an old manor look new again?

And what elements did Phantom Manor borrow from the US Parks?

In this episode of Distory, we step into the decrepit halls of Phantom Manor, finding secrets, stories, and spectral beings along the way. After analyzing how the special effects are achieved in both the foyer and doorless chamber, we then take some time in the portrait gallery (both old and new), say hello to some stanchion bats, and find a connection to an old 1964 piece of concept art. We climb aboard our doom buggies for an enlightening (and frightening) trip through the endless hallway and music room, before finding some skeletal hands, demons, and dark spaces in the corridor of doors. We end this episode in Leota’s seance circle, discussing the wild differences between what we see in Paris vs the US Disney parks.

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Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠disneycicerone.com⁠ & ⁠walruscarp.com⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠HERE ⁠OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

⁠Distory T-shirts and Stickers⁠

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Books we mention in this episode:

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic

Marc Davis in His Own Words

Disneyland Paris Phantom Manor Decrypted

Kate's books on Amazon

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How are the Beatles, Michael Jackson, & Hocus Pocus connected to Disney’s Phantom Manor in Paris?

Welcome back, foolish mortals, for a journey into the complicated backstory and history of Phantom Manor in Disneyland Paris! In this episode of Distory, we discuss the concepts, story, music, narration, inspiration, and origins of this iconic spooky attraction. We also dig deep into the background of Walt Disney World’s Thunder Mesa (and Marc Davis’s disappointments) and how it influenced the design of Frontierland for the Imagineers. Along the way, we experience a vibraslap, drum up some sympathy for the various suitors for Melanie Ravenswood (with hilarious names), and discuss the irreplaceable (yet replaced) Vincent Price, who felt right at home in the Phantom Manor. Well, most of the time.

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Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠disneycicerone.com⁠ & ⁠walruscarp.com⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠HERE ⁠OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

⁠Distory T-shirts and Stickers⁠

⁠WalrusCarp T-shirts & Merch⁠

Books we mention in this episode:

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic

Marc Davis in His Own Words

Disneyland Paris Phantom Manor Decrypted

Kate's books on Amazon

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Why did Disney make a ride so bad that it didn’t even last a year?

Buckle up for a cruise down the streets of Hollywood as we explore the history of Disney California Adventure’s Superstar Limo! If you’re confused (and horrified) by this short-lived Disney attraction, you’re not alone. We attempt to explain why how this ride came to be, including some budget cuts, drastic changes, and what it could have been after they closed it in less than a year. We also laugh hysterically as we try to mimic the smarmy agent puppet Swifty La Rue, pose like the creepy “minimatronics,” and try to find a context in which we would use the phrase “big boffo.” Our Eisner rivalry is also alive and well as we continue to debate his positive and negative influences in the Disney parks.

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You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠⁠

See more Distory with Kate & Kirk episodes here (earlier episodes available at ⁠⁠⁠@WalrusCarp⁠⁠⁠ )

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Is everything at Disney actually fake? Or is there more to the story?

In this episode of Distory, we hop into the Distorian's Lounge with Kate the Disney Cicerone to chat about five things in the Disney parks that used to be real but have been altered from their original state into something a little less so. We spend some time knocking on lampposts and carousel horses, find out how an antique movie prop got a prominent place on Main Street USA, and talk about the miniature horse corral in Frontierland and why its wooden posts were so important. We also tell a few stories about Walt & Lillian, chat about Bellamy Eagle conspiracy theories, and laugh along with our live audience as we share dad jokes and a few extra Disney stories in the Distorian's Lounge.

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⁠Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

⁠Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠disneycicerone.com⁠ & ⁠walruscarp.com⁠

See more Distory with Kate & Kirk episodes here (earlier episodes available at ⁠@WalrusCarp⁠ )

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Why was Tony Baxter so disappointed in Alice in Wonderland as a child?

In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we say farewell to our Alice in Wonderland series (and make it go out with a bang!). After learning what delayed Alice from opening with New Fantasyland in 1983, we compare the enhancements with the original 1958 version, hear about Tony Baxter's vision for the updates, discover a ridiculous reason for a tree, and find a long-lost Alice figurine from Walt Disney World. We also talk about the vine railing debacle, and what updates have been made to the ride since the 1980s.

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⁠⁠Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠

See more Distory with Kate & Kirk episodes here (earlier episodes available at ⁠⁠@WalrusCarp⁠⁠ )

⁠⁠Kate's books on Amazon⁠⁠

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The original version of Alice in Wonderland looked a little... different.

In this episode of Distory, we continue our Alice in Wonderland series by heading down, down, down the rabbit hole into the original 1958 version of this iconic Disney attraction. Along the way, we encounter some terrifying early Disney costumes, some new (at the time) technology, a few missing main characters, and some rooms that don't exist anymore. We also discuss the (very tall) Claude Coat's influence on the attraction and his legacy as an Imagineer.

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⁠Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

⁠Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠disneycicerone.com⁠ & ⁠walruscarp.com⁠

See more Distory with Kate & Kirk episodes here (earlier episodes available at ⁠@WalrusCarp⁠ )

⁠Kate's books on Amazon⁠

⁠⁠WalrusCarp T-shirts & Merch⁠⁠

Resources we mention in this episode: Don Carson Virtual Ride Through


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Was Alice really going to have a fish shack, a slide, and a glass maze?

In this episode of Distory, we celebrate our unbirthdays together as we begin our three-part series on the history of Alice in Wonderland. After discussing some oddities of Lewis Carroll's classic literary work, we walk with Walt through his early years with Alice, culminating in what he felt was a massive failure. But passed-over Aldous Huxley scripts and British critics aside, Alice was planned to be part of Disneyland's opening day... as a walk-through attraction. We end this episode by stepping into the madness of this concept art, having way too much fun along the way.

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⁠Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠

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What if Disney had a mobile, floating theme park?

Well, it almost did.

In this episode of Distory, we navigate through the origins of Disney's cruise line, starting with Walt Disney's voyages in the 1930s and 40s. After discussing the Jack Wrather Disneyland Hotel fiasco and taking a quick jaunt on the RMS Queen Mary and the Spruce Goose, we set sail on a "magical" Big Red Boat, find out why Michael Eisner wanted to start an exclusive Disney cruise line, and discover what makes the ships so unique both in design and function. Kate also geeks out about paint colors and Kirk spends some time at the midnight buffet, all in the shadow of our perpetual debate about Michael Eisner.

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⁠⁠⁠Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠⁠⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠⁠

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Why was Body Wars so nauseating? And what was Disney's Self-Care Carousel?

In this episode of Distory, we live our best life revisiting Epcot's extinct attraction called Body Wars which once resided in the Wonders of Life pavilion. We dig deep into the 1978 roller coaster concepts by Rolly Crump before shrinking ourselves down to explore the inner workings of Epcot's first-ever thrill ride. After some discussion of some classic 80s movies, we find ourselves wondering about the (somewhat) abandoned pavilion, and Kirk gives the world's best impression of the (also extinct) Universe of Energy, just for fun.

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⁠Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

⁠Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠disneycicerone.com⁠ & ⁠walruscarp.com⁠

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What did this failed attraction give us in the Disney parks? And what was it going to be before it became Rocket Rods?

In this episode of Distory, we rev up (and then suddenly slow down, again... and again...) as we navigate the ride that replaced a beloved Tomorrowland classic in Disneyland. To understand its checkered past, we dig deep into the history of the Rocket Rods, learning its former names, concepts, and even some Sherman Brothers music that was borrowed (mangled?) along the way. As we ride the road to tomorrow, Kate also tries not to debate Eisner again with Kirk... not completely successfully.

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Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠

Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp

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Are there really pieces of an extinct attraction hidden in Epcot?

And how did a disastrous Imagineering programming fail become an iconic part of Food Rocks?

In this episode of Distory, we revisit two former edutainment shows of the Land pavilion in Epcot, Kitchen Kabaret and Food Rocks. After identifying the colorful cast of characters in the kitchen, we try to hold it together (and sing a few food-based tunes) as we cook up some history and fun facts about these two unique musical revues.

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Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠

Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

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Kate's books on Amazon

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Resources we reference in this episode:

Kitchen Kabaret Full Show

Food Rocks Full Show


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What countries were considered for Epcot's world showcase?

And what country do you actually start in to go around the world?

In this episode of Distory, we explore the 18 (19? 20?) lost countries of Epcot's world showcase. From roller coasters to restaurants and LEGO boat rides, many concepts through the years were considered but few made it to the finish line. We also discover some ideas that found a second home in Animal Kingdom and go on some tangents reminiscing about our own bizarre adventures around the world.

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Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@disneycicerone

Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp https://www.tiktok.com/@walruscarp?lang=en

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Kate's books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Kate-Grasso/author/B0BQGGQDVJ?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

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When is an omnimover not an omnimover?

And what is a Doom Buggy, really?

In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we move through the invention and evolution of Disney's unique ride vehicle, the Omnimover. From its humble beginnings in the Ford Magic Skyway to its current iterations in the Disney parks, we debate what really makes an omnimover an omnimover, dig up a few fascinating obscure facts, and discuss Walt's rocky relationship with Henry Ford II. Kate also comments on why Bob Gurr doesn't like Spaceship Earth, and Kirk finds a never-built Epcot attraction in one of his favorite pavilions.

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Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@disneycicerone

Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp https://www.tiktok.com/@walruscarp?lang=en

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠https://disneycicerone.com/ & ⁠ https://walruscarp.com/

See more Distory with Kate & Kirk episodes here (earlier episodes available at @WalrusCarp ) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvKF9XMSZ6CeiA_eOYrq_gdYDSPmrioVQ

Kate's books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Kate-Grasso/author/B0BQGGQDVJ?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

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What is the best barker bird in all of Disney History?

This episode of Distory is truly for the birds, but we have no egrets when it comes to choosing our favorite Disney barker bird of all time. Kate defends Juan, the Tiki Room barker bird, while Kirk is on team Peg Leg Pete from the Pirates of the Caribbean.

As we fly through this episode, we find some hidden secrets in their punny scripts and discuss the purpose of our fine feathered friends. Kate finds some im-peck-able throwbacks to some classic music, but toucan play that game as Kirk gets salty about a unique Distory parrot connection.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

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Disney history. Hilarious puns. Hidden tributes. This library has them ALL.

In this final episode in our Jungle Cruise series, we spend some time browsing the bookshelves in the Jungle Navigation Co. LTD. Skipper Canteen with former Imagineer Skipper Kevin Lively as our guide. Not only are these books filled with jokes and references to Disney history & Imagineers, but they also hold many meaningful stories of Kevin's friends & family. These bookshelves are a celebration of all the people who made Adventureland what it is today.

So raise a glass with us and toast Kungaloosh! to the Jungle Cruise, and then get out. We're sorry, that was rude. Please get out.

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Kate: ⁠⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

Kirk: ⁠⁠@walruscarp⁠⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠⁠HERE ⁠⁠OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

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Skipper Kevin Lively's Shop

Resources we reference in this episode:

Adventureland Veranda Spotify Playlist

⁠Kate's books available on Amazon


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What is a Runconocerus and why is it in the Skipper Canteen's secret meeting room?

In this episode of Distory, we continue to explore all the nooks and crannies of The Jungle Cruise Navigation Co. LTD Skipper Canteen restaurant in the Magic Kingdom. We start our tour in the Falls family parlor with an artifact from a lost attraction, a nod to the Macaudios on the ceiling, some unfortunate macaronies, and a tale about what happened to Slappy from the Adventurers Club. We then pull on the Jungle Book and head into S.E.A.'s secret meeting room, where we face some mythical beasts, learn a little about the founding members, & ask some questions about Albert Falls's ethics.

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Kate: ⁠⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

Kirk: ⁠⁠@walruscarp⁠⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠⁠HERE ⁠⁠OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

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Resources we reference in this episode:

Slappy in the Adventurers Club

Adventureland Veranda Spotify Playlist

⁠Kate's books available on Amazon


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What remnants from Adventureland Veranda still exist in the Skipper Canteen? And what hidden secrets are tucked in the corners of the crew's mess hall?

In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we cruise on into the Jungle Navigation Co. LTD Skipper Canteen for part one of exploring this unique space in the Magic Kingdom. After discussing the history of Adventureland Veranda, we check out some tributes to former Jungle Cruise Imagineers, unearth a few references to S.E.A., and spend way too much time staring at the skipper's bulletin board. We also get a little nostalgic about our journey as creators and Kirk accepts Kate's obsessive need to check all the boxes.

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Kate: ⁠⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

Kirk: ⁠⁠@walruscarp⁠⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠⁠HERE ⁠⁠OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

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⁠⁠WalrusCarp T-shirts & Merch⁠⁠

Resources we reference in this episode:

Passport to Dreams Blog

Adventureland Veranda Spotify Playlist

⁠Kate's books available on Amazon


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How many obscure references are hidden in Disney's tiki bars?

And what was the original tiki bar on Disney property?

In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we return to civilization and exit the Jungle Cruise attraction, pausing for a moment to analyze some unique features in the signs and props on our way out. We then reward ourselves for making it 18 episodes into this series by going over the concepts, challenges, and thousands of artifacts found in Trader Sam's Enchanted Tiki Bar and Grog Grotto, discovering some incredible stories and secrets along the way.

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Kate: ⁠⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

Kirk: ⁠⁠@walruscarp⁠⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠⁠HERE ⁠⁠OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

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Books & resources we reference in this episode:

⁠⁠Marc Davis in His Own Words⁠⁠

⁠Kate's books available on Amazon


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Is Little Red the elephant actually in the Jungle Cruise? And why are there so many cameras in Trader Sam's Gift Shop?

In this special episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, former Imagineer Kevin Lively joins our chat to share with us some secrets & stories you probably have never heard before about Trader Sam's Gift Shop! We also find out the fate of the original Jungle Cruise gorillas, discuss the history and backstory of Trader Sam, and locate a lost hornbill. Kevin also answers some of our biggest questions about the final scene of the Jungle Cruise, including debunking a popular Disney rumor.

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Kate: ⁠⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

Kirk: ⁠⁠@walruscarp⁠⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠⁠HERE ⁠⁠OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

⁠⁠Kate's books available on Amazon⁠

⁠⁠Distory T-shirts and Stickers⁠⁠

⁠⁠WalrusCarp T-shirts & Merch⁠⁠

Kevin Lively's Shop

Books & resources we reference in this episode:

⁠⁠Marc Davis in His Own Words⁠⁠

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Why was the python scene a disappointment for Marc Davis?

And why are the chimps staged differently in Disneyland vs Disney World?

In this episode of Distory, Kirk gets mad at Kate for continuously misidentifying primates as we take a look at the intricate details of the newly-added chimpanzee scenes. We also explain why the piranha and water buffalo are our FAVORITE Adventureland mascots, find another man-eating plant most people miss, and Kate talks about licking a slug and her love of crates (it's relevant, we promise. Well, sorta.) Along the way, we find out the truth about man-eating piranha and identify an important story detail about them in the Jungle Cruise that is often overlooked.

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Kate: ⁠@disneycicerone⁠

Kirk: ⁠@walruscarp⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠disneycicerone.com⁠ & ⁠walruscarp.com⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠HERE ⁠OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

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Books & resources we reference in this episode:

⁠Marc Davis in His Own Words⁠

Pirahna Restoration Video

Kate's books available on Amazon

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Why were headhunters in the Jungle Cruise? (And why did they love Disco so much?)In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we float through the perilous (and oft-times controversial) history of Disney's Jungle Cruise. Wading into the deepest part of the Rivers of Romance, we explore the mechanics of the hippos, the real-life animals that inspired them, and how they were actually a compromise from what Walt really wanted. Then we head into Headhunter Territory (a terrible place to be-headed) to view Marc Davis's cultural interpretation of African and New Guinea natives. For those of you who make it to the end of this episode, you'll be treated to some bizarre ASMR and Kirk lecturing Kate about chimps. This episode was recorded live, and the little hearts are gifts from our wonderfully supportive audience... we apologize if they are distracting!Please also note: We do fully recognize the culturally sensitive nature of this content, and our reporting the history of this part of the attraction does not mean we endorse the portrayal of these cultures in the manner with which they were formally presented.

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What is a myrmecoleon and how is it connected with the Jungle Cruise's Trapped Safari?

On this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we appreciate the history and nuance of the first gag ever to appear in a Disney attraction (that was, of course, never intended to be IN the ride at all). The trapped (lost?) safari has gone through some changes over the years, but the humor remains. After explaining some of the history behind the older version of this scene, we go through the backstory of each character, their connection to S.E.A., and some oddities in the details that you likely have never heard of before... but aren't likely to forget any time soon!

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

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Books we reference in this episode:

Marc Davis in His Own Words

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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Is the plane from Casablanca really in the Jungle Cruise? And what does the zebra's mane have to do with Roy Disney?

In this episode of Distory, we visit the downed plane, chatting about its controversial historical connections to Casablanca and its current ties to the Society of Explorers and Adventurers. We then journey into the African Veldt to discuss the (sometimes gory) details of this iconic Jungle Cruise scene, including lost lions, hairy zebras, and unusually designed vultures. After some stories from the imagineers who designed the scene as well as some bonus animal facts, we wrap up with Kirk promising to never discuss the plane again... and Kate promising the opposite.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

View full video versions of each episode at ⁠Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠

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Books we reference in this episode:

Marc Davis in His Own Words

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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What happened to the punching gorilla, and why did he never make it into the Jungle Cruise? In this episode of Distory, we travel into the heart of the Congo on the Jungle Cruise, exploring the history of the canoe scene and the ransacked safari camp. Along the way, we tell a few bonus jokes, find some spare piranha that Kirk didn't know existed, and hear a little jungle fashion history. We find some fascinating connections back to the movie Tarzan, a classic novella, and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, and learn about the backstories and inspiration for these two unique Jungle Cruise scenes.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

View full video versions of each episode at ⁠Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠

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Books we reference in this episode:

Marc Davis in His Own Words

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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Which Jungle Cruise elephant was inspired by Walt Disney?

In this episode of Distory, we head into the waters of the sacred elephant bathing pool. Along the way, we find an elephant that started as another animal, hear Blaine Gibson's unfiltered thoughts about the first generation of sculpted elephants, and learn about how some of the elephants were going to have more animation (and why they never did). Kirk also shares with us about Dick Nunis's obsession with short pants, and we share a story of someone who certainly got Walt's attention, but not the way that he'd planned.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

View full video versions of each episode at ⁠Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠

Schweitzer Falls T-shirt

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Books we reference in this episode:

Marc Davis in His Own Words

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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What hard lesson did Marc Davis learn when he designed the Cambodian Temple of the Jungle Cruise?

In this episode of Distory, we dive deep into the history and secrets of the Jungle Cruise's Cambodian Temple. Along the way, we discover how the Imagineers "borrowed" some designs from actual temples in Cambodia, discuss the meaning of the statues, and encounter all kinds of monkeys from the playful to the sacred. After facing our fears of spiders and snakes, we take a quick jaunt back to the Haunted Mansion to investigate WED's fascination with rubber arachnids.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

View full video versions of each episode at ⁠Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠

Schweitzer Falls T-shirt

⁠I Tell Skipper Jokes/I Laugh at Skipper Jokes Shirts ⁠available at Walruscarp.com

Books we reference in this episode:

Marc Davis in His Own Words

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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What were the singing waterfalls of the Jungle Cruise? And what happened to the giant frogs and hornbill?

Kungaloosh! In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we continue our epic journey by moving scene-by-scene through the history of the Jungle Cruise. We discuss why Marc Davis was brought on the project, the birthplace of the concept of "plussing", and the first laugh ever in a Disney park. After surviving an encounter with dangerous butterflies, we learn why inspiration falls had to be constructed, and why Disneyland's hornbill never really sounded quite right.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel

I Tell Skipper Jokes/I Laugh at Skipper Jokes Shirts available at Walruscarp.com

Books we reference in this episode:

The Disneyland Story

Walt Disney: An American Original

Walt's Disneyland

Marc Davis in His Own Words

The Imagineering Story

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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The backside of water Jungle Cruise joke is not as old as you think, and neither are many other "classic" skipper jokes!

In this episode of Distory, we finish our walkthrough of the history of the Jungle Cruise script, comparing how the jokes evolved over the decades. We uncover some problematic jokes that have been (thankfully) retired, relive the glory days of the 1990s, and end our tour with the discovery of a joke that has been around since the very beginning and is still told today. Kate also stumbles over her words while Kirk gives his best impression of an elephant, and we all laugh much too hard at our own ridiculous jokes in true Distory style.

*Note: This episode contains only the second half of the script, as there are so many jokes to share! We covered the first half of the script in the previous episode (episode 46).

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Kate: ⁠⁠@disneycicerone⁠⁠

Kirk: ⁠⁠@walruscarp⁠⁠

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and at ⁠⁠disneycicerone.com⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠walruscarp.com⁠⁠

View full video versions of each episode at Disney Cicerone's YouTube channel ⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠ OR on the Spotify version of our podcast.

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⁠⁠WalrusCarp T-shirts & Merch⁠⁠

Kate's book: ⁠⁠A Glimpse of the Magic

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The Jungle Cruise has always been funny... right?

Well, not exactly.

In this episode of Distory, we walk through the history of the Jungle Cruise script from dry & educational to nothing but jokes! As we journey through the official scripts and spiels throughout the decades, we discover how some fan-favorite jokes evolved over time, and unearth some lines of script that definitely wouldn't be used today. We also discuss random objects thrown into the Rivers of Adventure, get nostalgic over 90s pop culture, and laugh entirely too much at our own jokes .

*Note: This episode contains only the first half of the script, as there are so many jokes to share! We will cover the second half of the script in the next episode.

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What Jungle Cruise crew would you want to be sorted into?

And who are the talking logs?

In this episode of Distory, we adventure into the complicated and detailed history of Walt Disney World's Jungle Cruise queue. Along the way, we find artifacts from the Society of Explorers and Adventurers, vibe to some Albert AWOL radio, make a connection to the Haunted Mansion, and find an original piece of Marc Davis concept art that Imagineer Kevin Lively (finally!) brought to life in the attraction after years of it being a lost dream. Kirk also obsesses over piranha, and Kate can't decide what Hogwarts hou...uh, Jungle crew she should be in, all in typical Distory fashion.

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Marc Davis in His Own Words

Albert AWOL script

Passport to Dreams Blog

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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What dangerous live animal was almost on display in the Jungle Cruise queue?

In this episode of Distory, we walk through the fascinating history of Disneyland's Jungle Cruise, beginning with what it looked like in 1955 through all of its major renovations throughout the years. Along the way, we discuss some secret references, meet three friendly birds (both real and animatronic), and make an important connection to the 1942 classic film Casablanca.... and Morocco in Walt Disney World's Epcot.

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Books we reference in this episode:

Walt Disney: An American Original

Marc Davis in His Own Words

The Imagineering Story

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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How is a name from the Lion King tied to the Jungle Cruise?

And did rhinos really moon guests once upon a time?

In this wild Distory episode, we monkey around with the animals of the Jungle Cruise as we learn about their inspiration, creation, and the unique challenges the Imagineers faced in bringing them to life. We'll also chat about some very cheeky rhinos, discover how the elephants know when to trumpet, and figure out what happened to some animals we no longer see in the Jungle Cruise today.

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Books we reference in this episode:

The Disneyland Story

Walt's Disneyland

Marc Davis in His Own Words

The Imagineering Story

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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Is there a deeper meaning behind the backside of water?

In this episode of Distory, we continue our adventure into the history of Disney's Jungle Cruise by rolling up our sleeves and discussing the nitty gritty details of the ride's construction. Along the way we explore a historic operating procedures guide, read Imagineer Harper Goff's notes to Walt Disney, and talk about the meaning behind the beautiful Schweitzer Falls. We also (mostly) solve the mystery of the lost bamboo boat canopy, and speculate about why the medicine bottles are featured in the queue.

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Walt Disney: An American Original

Walt's Disneyland

Marc Davis in His Own Words

The Imagineering Story

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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The Jungle cruise boat canopies were always meant to be canvas... right?

Well, not quite. And their original purpose is different than what you might think.

In this episode of Distory, we continue our journey through the history of the Jungle Cruise as we look through the oddities of the attraction's original concept art, hunt down trees in unlikely places with Bill Evans and Harper Goff, and skim through a historic Skipper Survival Guide (possibly with a joke or two along the way). We also discover what the land was long before Disney, and say hello to a celebrity tree from 1896.

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The Disneyland Story

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The Imagineering Story

Disney's Glorious Gardens

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Do you remember when Neptune starred in the Jungle Cruise?

... Ok, so that concept didn't ever end up in the actual ride, but it almost did!

In this episode of Distory, we begin our multi-part series on the history of the Jungle Cruise by taking a cruise back in time to encounter the original inspiration for this iconic attraction. Along the way, we'll encounter some exotic trips sponsored by the US government, a few water-logged movie stars, and the real-life animals that inspired all of Adventureland.

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The Disneyland Story

Walt Disney: An American Original

Walt's Disneyland

Marc Davis in His Own Words

Kate's book: A Glimpse of the Magic

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Why are some people who helped build Disneyland never mentioned at Disney?

In the Distorian's Lounge with Kate this week, we spill ALL the tea about four scandalous and shocking stories from Disney's past. We chat about two people who should have windows on Main Street but don't (and why), as well as learn about how an insult to Walt contributed to the loss of a major deal, and why tiny towels and nuns with binoculars are a hilarious part of the Disney story.

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A Glimpse of the Magic by Kate Grasso

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The restaurants, shops, and even sidewalks of Sunset Boulevard are telling you a story with every step you take, some of which even speak to places that no longer exist.

In this episode of Distory, we walk you down this fascinating street in Disney's Hollywood Studios (or rather Disney-MGM Studios, as it was originally called), to highlight some of historical context built into the designs. We'll explore the clever theming of several quick-service restaurants and what their clues tell us about the year the boulevard is set in before discovering a connection between the Tower of Terror and two other Disney parks, long before the attraction was created in any of them.

Note: This episode was recorded with us both LIVE in Hollywood Studios, enjoy the energy of the crowd & sounds of Disney around us!

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The best Disney attraction was one that was never built, but did leave pieces of its legacy in almost all of the Disney Parks.

In this episode of Distory, we discover the planned (but never created) Western River Expedition and its heartbreakingly incredible home of Thunder Mesa, the missing mountain of Frontierland in Disney World's Magic Kingdom. We'll walk step-by-step though Marc Davis's concept for this ride, as well as where some of those concepts ended up when the attraction was scrapped.

Kate's new book A Glimpse of the Magic: Finding Ourselves in the Disney Story is now available on Amazon HERE!

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Marc Davis: In His Own Words

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Why did Walt Disney create Disneyland?

We've all heard the Walt-on-a-bench-in-Griffith-Park origin story of Disneyland, and while that was one of the influences behind Walt's decision to make Disneyland, it wasn't the only one. In this episode of Distory, we dig deep into the history of the many influences in Walt's life and travels that impacted the design of this iconic theme park, exploring where the major themes and ideas came from that created the magical park we know and love today.

Kate's new book A Glimpse of the Magic: Finding Ourselves in the Disney Story is now available on Amazon HERE!

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Books we reference in this episode:

Walt Disney Imagineering

The Imagineering Story

The Disneyland Story

Walt Disney: An American Original

Walt's Disneyland

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The hitchhiking ghosts take a hike for Disneyland's Haunted Mansion Holiday overlay in favor of Oogie Boogie... right?

Well, not quite.

In this episode of Distory, we return to the Haunted Mansion for a look at the making of the Nightmare before Christmas & some other mansion overlay possibilities that never came to pass. We then hop in our dark carriages and go on a hunt in every nightmarish scene in the mansion for an (unofficial) mascot and explore some unique connections to Disney parks history tied into the overlay at both Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland.

Note: Somehow we both managed to forget to include the fact that Madame Leota for this overlay is Kim Irvine, who just so happens to be the daughter of Leota Toombs (the original Madame Leota). We were so delighted by Kirk singing the 13 days of Christmas that it must have dematerialized out of our minds. You have our apologies.

If you're looking for Kate's book A Glimpse of the Magic: Finding Ourselves in the Disney Story that we mention in this episode, it's HERE!

And you can get your own WalrusCarp Madame Leota "Making Spirits Bright" shirt HERE!

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Books/websites we reference in this episode:

Full Haunted Mansion Holiday Script

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

A Glimpse of the Magic: Finding Ourselves in the Disney Story by Kate Grasso

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Were Doritos really invented in Disneyland?

Well, sort of. Kinda. Mostly. 

In this episode of Distory, we make our home in Casa de Fritos for a salty journey through the history of golden corn chips in the Disney parks. After learning about how the golden chips of corn got their start, we talk taco prices in 1955, meet a lost mascot who delivered fresh snacks via a fancy vending machine, and discover that Doritos may not be the only food item invented at Casa de Fritos. 

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Do you remember when Mickey Bars had a face?

On this episode of Distory, we treat ourselves to the history of Disney's iconic snack foods, including churros, Mickey ice cream bars, and turkey legs. We time travel back to the 90s when Chip n' Dale used to have a starring role as a frozen treat, and find out how a popular Disneyland dance club inspired one of the most beloved Disney snacks of all time. There may also be some speculationabout what foods Gaston would actually want to have in his tavern as we talk turkey (legs) and cinnamon rolls.

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How did Walt Disney steer his curved-dash runabout in parades without a steering wheel? What was the proper protocol for honking the horn on horseless carriages in 1966? And what was the only classic Disney vehicle that was NOT Walt's idea?

Take a relaxing surrey ride with us down Main Street USA as we explore the fascinating history of Disneyland & Disney World's Main Street Vehicles. We talk about "vintage" Gurrmobiles, horses named after accountants, and some extinct vehicles that you can no longer find in the Disney parks.

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Cast Member Guide we refer to in this episode:

Main Street Vehicles Handbook

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Marching toy soldiers and dancing reindeer weren't around when Disneyland had its first Christmas parade in 1955. In fact, the parade barely hinted at the holidays, and instead was a promotional event for something quite different indeed. In this episode of Distory, we walk through the history of Disneyland's Christmas parades, discovering a few unexpected surprises and mishaps along the way.

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Full Broadcast - Holiday Time at Disneyland - 1962


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Was Michael Eisner good or bad for Disney? In this special episode of Distory, we debate Michael Eisner's influence and how his decisions shaped the landscape of Disney as a company, both in positive and negative ways. We walk through "The Disney Decade" step by step and unravel how this powerful CEO went from leading a Disney Renaissance to crashing and burning at the end of his tenure at Disney.

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The scenes in Pinocchio's Daring Journey each have their own story and a moral lesson. But the ride often flies by so fast we can't take in the full depth of what the intentional design is communicating both emotionally and psychologically. In this episode of Distory, we go behind the scenes of this 1980s Disneyland dark ride and discuss how it was the first Disney attraction ever to use a unique special effect, what the original WED work notes said about each scene, and what is hidden in the last scene that ties the whole story together. We also get a little off-topic and debate the name of a significant character in Snow White.

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In the 1980s, the Imagineers at WED completely redesigned Fantasyland. But was it made into what Walt always wanted, or is there more to the story?

In this episode of Distory, we travel back in time to explore the origins of the dark ride before discussing Tony Baxter's perspective of the Fantasyland remodel and sharing details from historic internal WED work documents regarding Pinocchio's design and story. We also wax philosophical about the themes in Pinocchio and have a lively debate, which Kirk probably wins.

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The Disneyland Story by Sam Genneway


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We like to think of Pinocchio as a happy, easily-persuaded little puppet who just couldn't help but lie and get into trouble even though he was accompanied by Jiminy, his faithful conscience. But that's not who they originally were (not even close!). In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we discover where Disney found the story of Pinocchio, how they altered the story and the characters to suit their purposes, why the film was a box-office failure, and how Gustaf Tenggren contributed to the development of both the film and the Disney Parks attraction.

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The Disneyland Story by Sam Genneway

Walt Disney: An American Original by Bob Thomas


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Despite common belief, Dole Whips were not actually invented for Disneyland, and their history is not as old as you might think it is.

On this episode of Distory, we explore the secretive past of the Dole Whip and why this simple treat has become so iconic in Disney culture. We then fly south to make friends with the Orange Bird and learn why he is always thinking orange, and also how his story has a deeper meaning than simply selling orange products for his sponsor. To wrap up our Tiki Room Distory journey, we finally answer the question Jose has been asking since 1963... where is Rosita?

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Maps of the Disney Parks


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"It’s a whole new world so you better get hip or your audience will disappear."Those famous, cringy words of Iago from the largely unpopular Under New Management version of the Enchanted Tiki Room are the ironic premonition of the fate of this famous fever dream of a Walt Disney World Attraction. On this episode of Distory, we travel back in time to Disney World's original Enchanted Tiki Room, the Tropical Serenade, before buckling up for a historical journey through the wild world of the Under New Management Era. There may also be some hysterical laughter, comparison of fountain fruit, and a barker bird that is gone but not forgotten.

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Have you heard the lost song of the Tiki Room? In this episode of Distory, we talk about the origins of all the music in the Enchanted Tiki Room, including the title song composed by the Sherman Brothers and some of the songs that were repurposed from previous Disney projects. We also have a chat with the Birdbrain brothers, learn more about the four emcee macaws, and listen to vintage audio from the infamous Barker Bird.

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Stand back! This episode of Distory is filled with the fascinating history of the lanai tikis of the Tiki Room, the original 1960s concept art for the attraction, and even a discussion about a goddess who used to have a prominent role in the preshow and who has been missing for years. We also discuss how the Imagineers influenced each other in design, discover how a previously unused concept was recycled into the final attraction, and Kirk attempts to rhyme like Rongo.

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Books we reference in this episode:

It's Kind of a Cute Story - by Rolly Crump

An article we reference in this episode:

Tales of an Original VIP Hostess for Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room

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Pay attention, it's showtime! In this episode of Distory, we ruffle a few feathers as we discuss the origins of the Tiki Room and where you can still see evidence of an abandoned concept in the attraction today. We also fly over the history of audio-animatronics and explore how military technology aided the creation of our fine feathered friends. 

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Dumbo the Flying Elephant seems like a simple off-the-shelf spinner ride, but its unique history is filled with frustrations, malfunctions, and design alterations. In this episode, we talk about the economical production process of Disney's Dumbo that didn't go over well with some animators, and how the creation of the attraction for the Disney parks echoed the animated film's hardships and hangups. We also hear some odd (and hilarious!) stories from practices in the Disney studios and discuss the unfortunate fate of Arrow Development. 

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Have you ever wondered why the teacups at Disney are so hard to spin? Well, they weren't always that way. In this episode of Distory, we move down through the history of the Mad Tea Party and go a little mad explaining the backstory, concept art, design challenges, and multiple changes that have made this iconic ride what it is today.  

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Referenced in this episode:

"The Last Lecture" by Randy Pausch

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How does the way Disney designed their parks influence how we experience them? In this episode of Distory, we talk about how Disney has masterfully crafted our perspective and perception within each one to keep us in the story and encourage forward motion. We also have some fun discussing a few forced perspective design fails and how we wish one particular land in a galaxy far, far away looked more convincing from a distance.

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How does Disney's use of color affect our experience of the parks? In this episode of Distory, we go beyond Go Away Green and Blending Blue to explore how the Imagineers influence our guest experience through the use of specific colors. We also chat about how one of our favorite characters wasn't always the color he is now, and why dining in Disney is designed to make us hungrier than ever. 

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As we near the end of our Haunted Mansion odyssey, our journey would not be complete without a stop in the gift shop! In this episode, we walk through the oddities and history of Momento Mori before traveling over to Disneyland to talk about a secret tunnel (that never was) and how Pirates & the Mansion have been interwoven in design from the very beginning.

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

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You may think that the tombs at the exit of the Haunted Mansion are just simple, funny puns, but a few of them hold hidden meanings buried beneath their lighthearted facades. In this episode, we unveil the secrets of the crypts and pay a visit to the pet cemetery to say hello to our dearly departed furry friends whose epitaphs hold secrets of their own. 

(Please note: Because this episode was recorded while Kirk was in the Magic Kingdom, you may hear some extra background noise)

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Who is Little Leota? Is she a bride? A mourner? A hostess? And why is she the last ghostly figure we see on our way out of the Haunted Mansion? In this episode of Distory with Kate and Kirk, we dig deeper into the history of the mansions "Ghostess" and also discuss a surprising connection between Beauty and the Beast and the Haunted Mansion. And as we finally step back out into the light, we take a detour through Disneyland's original walk-through exit, hidden in plain sight.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, three ghosts follow us on our way out of the mansion as we explore the fascinating backstories and development of the Haunted Mansion's hitchhiking ghosts Ezra Beane, Professor Phineas Plump, and Gus. We also go behind the scenes of the doom buggy ghost effect and discuss how it is the perfect culmination of many of the mansion's overarching themes.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we focus on the often-overlooked trio of happy haunts at the very end of the Haunted Mansion's graveyard: The knight, the prisoner, & the executioner. After losing our heads over the vast history of the decapitated knight, we explore the evolution of the prisoner and executioner concept art before ending our time in the graveyard with a ghost dematerializing before our very eyes, and what it means for the story arc of the Haunted Mansion as a whole.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books we reference in this episode:

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this episode of Distory with Kate and Kirk, we make our way (albeit slowly) through the graveyard of the Haunted Mansion, this time focusing on the fascinating history of the mummy and the deaf man trying to hear him. After a detour discussing the obelisks of Disney, we wave hi to the Mickey-bar whispy ghost before singing some crazy opera and sharing some excitement about our upcoming Keys to the Kingdom tour!

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books we reference in this episode:

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this episode of Distory, we continue to creep through the graveyard of the Haunted Mansion beginning with the history of the singing busts before having a drink with the couple at the picnic table, toasting the arm coming out of the crypt, learning the origins of the phantom coachman, and making time for tea with a trio of grim grinning ghosts.

We also uncover some ways that Disney "borrowed" art and music from other sources, and laugh hysterically at too many things to count.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

Recommended blog: Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion

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In this episode of Distory, we finally arrive in the graveyard just in time to celebrate the swinging wake with the Phantom Five! And they might not necessarily be who you think they are because of an all-too-common mistake.

As we roll on in our doom buggies, we explore the origins of the ghost drummer, hear about the background of the tune Grim Grinning Ghosts, hang out with royalty on the see-saw, and even have a drop-in special guest (musicologist Dr. Eliot Grasso) to help us identify the instruments the Phantom Five are playing. We also take a few short detours and even get a little ahead of ourselves with the singing busts, but don't worry, we pop up right where we need to at the end (with the ghosts that do the same).

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

Many thanks to Dr. Eliot Grasso for sharing his knowledge with us! You can find Eliot @eliotgrassomusic on Instagram & TikTok, and also at eliotgrasso.com.

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

Recommended blog: Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion

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On this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we make our descent from the attic of the Haunted Mansion, taking in every detail and historic feature along the way. We wrestle with that question that has plagued Disney fans for ages... do we fall, jump, or did someone push us out the window? And do we survive the journey?

We also discuss the influences of other Disney park attractions and movies and the impact they made on this particular part of the Haunted mansion, explore the Imagineer's use of visual economy, find out why Disneyland's Haunted Mansion is so much brighter than Disney World's, and take a closer look at the frightened caretaker and his canine companion.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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Have you ever wondered why the Haunted Mansion's attic feels so much creepier than the rest of the mansion? In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we attempt to keep our heads as we explore the Beating Heart Bride's grim history, the Hatbox Ghost's disappearance and reappearance, cobwebs in the mansion, and why the layout of the attic was a significant part of the story (that no longer makes sense).

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books/Blogs we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Blog

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In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, ghosts are beginning to materialize as we enter the Grand Hall (aka The Ballroom) of the Haunted Mansion and give a detailed account of the secrets, stories, effects, and details you might have missed while flying by in your Doom Buggy. Kirk shows us a way to replicate the Pepper's Ghost effect in our very own homes, and we go a little rogue speculating on some (possible) Haunted Mansion connections and themes.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we dodge hot and cold running chills in the endless hallway of the Haunted Mansion before exploring the details of the Music Room and finally venturing into the mystical and magical realm of the Seance Room. We summon all our historical knowledge of Madame Leota, ectoplasm, seance circles, and MAPO devices, while also considering how the overarching imagination/reality theme is carried into this famous circular room.

We may also have some fun with a Porg puppet at the end, not in any way related to the Haunted Mansion.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this episode, Kate (in Disneyland) walks us through a display of actual Haunted Mansion concept art on display while Kirk guides us through the Sinister 11. We also discuss the portrait gallery, the museum of the weird, and walk through the queue of Disneyland's Haunted Mansion together.

If you'd like to watch Kirk & Kate do a side-by-side comparison of Disneyland & Disney World's Haunted Mansions from inside the parks, check out the Haunted Mansion Rad Tea Party episode HERE

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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View full video versions of each episode HERE

Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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Is this Haunted Mansion series stretching (on forever), or is it just your imagination? In this episode, we finally step foot into the Haunted Mansion's foyer where we meet the secrets of the Aging Man and some wall-to-wall creeps before wandering into the history, story, and detail-rich Stretching Room.

Trigger warning: Suicide/Hanging as part of the Haunted Mansion storyline

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

View full video versions of each episode HERE

Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this episode of Distory, special guest & Musicologist Dr. Eliot Grasso joins us for an in-depth discussion of the music of the Haunted Mansion. We also explore the complicated concept background of the attraction with all of its twists and turns that inspired the version we know and love. Before we leave this episode, we pause to appreciate the intricacies of the queue as we prepare to enter the Mansion.

Many thanks to Dr. Eliot Grasso for sharing his knowledge with us! You can find Eliot @eliotgrassomusic on Instagram & TikTok, and also at eliotgrasso.com.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

View full video versions of each episode HERE

Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this Episode of Distory with your Ghost Hosts Kate and Kirk, we explore an in-depth history of the outside structure of both the Walt Disney World (Florida) and original Disneyland (California) versions of Disney's Haunted Mansion. You'll hear about the ways the design of the mansion changed, what inspired historical buildings inspired the architecture, and the significance of where each mansion is placed.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

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Books we reference in this episode:

Boundless Realms by Foxx Nolte

The Haunted Mansion: Imagineering a Disney Classic by Jason Surrell

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In this our inaugural first-ever episode of Distory with Kate & Kirk, we dive deep into the history of Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean attraction, sharing treasures that we've found in our research as Disney historians & creators. From early design concepts to a virtual ride-through, we compare and contrast the brilliance of the design of both the Disneyland and Disney World versions while sharing obscure facts and history along the way.

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Kate: @disneycicerone

Kirk: @walruscarp

You can also find us on YouTube, Instagram, and at disneycicerone.com & walruscarp.com

View full video versions of each episode HERE

Books referenced in this episode:

Pirates of the Caribbean: From the Magic Kingdom to the Movies by Jason Surrell