The NAESP Principal Podcast: Recent Episodes

National Association of Elementary School Principals

For principals, it can be lonely at the top. So it’s always a relief to hear from fellow educators who have been there, done that, and are doing more to advance their leadership. Join principals Dr. Rachael George and Adam Welcome as they discuss best practices, innovative strategies, and pressing topics for today’s pre-K–8 principal with special guests from the education community.

This podcast is sponsored by the National Association of Elementary School Principals (NAESP). George and Welcome are fellows of the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership, which is part of the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership.

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In today’s episode, Liz Garden and Scott McLeod from NAESP’s Center for Innovative Leadership talk with Eric Sheninger about what innovation really means in schools—and how leaders can challenge conventional thinking without simply adding more to anyone’s plate. From purposeful technology use to deeper learning, calculated risks, and small shifts in practice, this conversation explores how principals can help schools move beyond buzzwords and focus on what actually improves learning.

Eric Sheninger is an author, speaker, and former teacher and award-winning principal. He is the founder and CEO of Aspire Change EDU.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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In today’s episode, Kim Taylor and Julie Bloss from NAESP’s Center for Early Learning Leadership talk with Jillayne Flanders and Dr. Orinthia Harris about how school leaders can begin conversations about empathy, equity, belonging, and anti-racism with young learners, staff, and families. From leading with heart to helping children see themselves represented, this conversation explores practical ways school leaders can support belonging in early learning communities.

Jillayne Flanders is an author, educational consultant, and former elementary principal.

Dr. Orinthia Harris is a former early childhood educator and founder & CEO of STEMearly LLC.

Julie Bloss, a retired principal, is fellow at the NAESP Center for Early Learning Leadership.

Kim Taylor is principal of F.X. O’Regan Early Childhood Development Center in Franklin, Massachusetts, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Early Learning Leadership.

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In today’s episode, "Home Visits and the Power of Personal Connection," Andy Jacks talks with veteran principal Matt Moyer about building stronger relationships with students and families—and creating a school culture where every child feels seen and valued.

Matt Moyer is principal of Rupert Elementary School in Pottstown, Pennsylvania, and a member of the 2020 class of NAESP National Distinguished Principals®.

Andy Jacks, Ed.D. is principal at Ellis Elementary School in Manassas, Virginia, and senior fellow at the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership.

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Every year, extraordinary school leaders from across the country are recognized through the NAESP National Distinguished Principal® program, and come together in Washington D.C. to meet each other and share their stories.. In this special episode of the podcast, we've curated a selection of their speeches to highlight the exceptional work they do in their schools. We invite you to listen as they share what has shaped their professional lives, and the various ways they support their school communities.

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In today’s episode, hosts Liz Garden and Dr. Scott McLeod talk with Dr. Kristan Rodriguez about what it takes to create schools where every learner can succeed. From understanding student variability and building systems that work to shifting from compliance to authentic engagement, this conversation explores practical strategies for implementing Universal Design for Learning in your school.

Dr. Kristan Rodriguez is the owner of Commonwealth Consulting Agency, LLC and has been a professional development provider for over 20 years.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Today’s episode explores what new leaders need to know about managing change. Assistant principal Donna McGuire talks with Dr. Dallas Lee about leading with clarity, slowing down under pressure, and building trust when everyone is watching.

Dallas Lee, Ed.D. serves as instructional superintendent at the District of Columbia Public School system.

Donna McGuire is assistant principal PS/IS 18 – The Park Terrace School in New York City, and serves as moderator of the NAESP Assistant Principal Community of Practice.

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In today’s episode, host Equetta Jones talks with Ashley Farrington and Dr. Jerod Phillips Sr. about how school leaders build the relationships and support systems that help them grow from assistant principal to principal—and thrive once they get there. This conversation explores how connection can turn leadership from isolating to inspiring.

Ashley Farrington is principal of Birchview Elementary School in Plymouth, Minnesota, 2020 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal, 2025 NAESP National Distinguished Principal, and president-elect of the Minnesota Elementary School Principals’ Association.

Dr. Jerod Phillips Sr. is principal of David E. Robinson Elementary in Magnolia, Delaware, and a 2021 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal.

Equetta Jones is principal of Lovecreek Elementary School in Lewes, Delaware, 2020 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal, and moderator for NAESP’s Early Career Principal Community of Practice.

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We know that a great school leader can have a powerful impact on the success of a school and its students. But how exactly do we get great principals? We sat down with Dr. Linda Darling-Hammond to discuss the latest research on developing effective principals, and how policymakers, districts, and educators can ensure school leaders have what they need to grow and thrive.

Dr. Linda Darling-Hammond is President and CEO of the Learning Policy Institute. She is also the Charles E. Ducommun Professor of Education Emeritus at Stanford University where she founded the Stanford Center for Opportunity Policy in Education and served as the faculty sponsor of the Stanford Teacher Education Program, which she helped to redesign.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Dr. Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

The NAESP Principal Podcast is produced by the National Association of Elementary School Principals. Learn more about our community and membership at naesp.org.

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We talk with educator and innovator Katie Fielding about how principals can help teachers and students use AI safely, creatively, and ethically. From setting clear expectations to helping students think critically about new tools, we explore how principals can build a culture of curiosity and responsibility around technology.

Katie Fielding is an educational technology consultant and advocate for accessibility who holds advanced credentials from ISTE and CAST.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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In today’s episode, Dr. Sharon Porter talks with Katy Kennedy and David Griffith about why regulation is at the heart of every student’s success. They discuss how schools can better support students and staff—through counseling, co-regulation, and policy changes—while modeling the practices we want children to learn.

Katy Kennedy is principal of Washington Middle School in Glendive, Montana, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Middle-Level Leadership.

David Griffith is Associate Executive Director of Policy and Advocacy at NAESP.

Sharon Porter is principal of Allenwood Elementary School in Temple Hills, Maryland, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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In today’s episode, principal Andy Jacks talks with leaders Jessica Quinter and Kenny Newby about what it takes to enter a new school as an experienced principal. From building trust fast to aligning with supervisors and protecting your own well-being, this conversation offers practical strategies you can put to work right away.

Jessica Quinter, Ed.D. is principal of Park Forest Elementary School in State College, Pennsylvania, and serves as director for Zone 2 on the NAESP Board of Directors.

Kenny Newby is principal of Justice Alan Page Elementary School in Maplewood Minnesota, serves as NAESP Zone 7 director, and moderator for the NAESP LGBTQIA+ Network.

Andy Jacks, Ed.D. is principal at Ellis Elementary School in Manassas, Virginia, and senior fellow at the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership.

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In today’s episode, principal Equetta Jones talks with experts from the Lead IDEA Center about what it takes to lead schools where every student belongs—and succeeds. From preparation gaps and staffing shortages to shifting mindsets and building strong systems, this conversation offers insight and practical strategies you can put to work right away.

Dia Jackson, Ph.D., is a senior researcher at the American Institutes for Research and co-leads the knowledge development team at the Lead IDEA Center.

Dena Slanda, Ph.D., is a senior TA consultant at the American Institutes for Research, and serves as intensive technical assistance lead at the Lead IDEA Center.

Equetta Jones is principal of Lovecreek Elementary School in Lewes, Delaware, and moderator for NAESP's Early Career Principal Community of Practice.

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Principals know there are no guarantees that any initiative, improvement plan, or new idea will be successful at their school. How do we convince stakeholders—and just as importantly ourselves—that these ideas are worth pursuing? We sat down with Philadelphia principal Tim Boyle to discuss how to navigate ambiguity and improve what matters at your school.

Tim Boyle is principal of Science Leadership Academy Middle School (SLAMS) in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Most school leaders will be familiar with PBL. But for principal Amy McElroy PBL means Problem-Based—not Project-Based—Learning. We discuss what the differences are and what it means for her school, and how this approach impacts her student's engagement and overall success.

Amie McElroy is elementary school director at STEM School in Highlands Ranch, Colorado.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Social-emotional learning (SEL) is crucial at any age, but it has a special significance at the middle level. Today we sit down with an Illinois principal who's school's unique approach to SEL has made an impact in to the culture and character of students in the middle grades and beyond.

Francesca Peck is principal at Polaris Charter Academy in Chicago, Illinois.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Today we're joined by author, educator and PBL advocate Sara Lev, to explain why project-based learning is not only appropriate for our youngest learners, but should be implemented far more often. We cover what it looks like in the early grades, and how principals can lead the way in implementing project-based learning in early childhood.

Sara Lev is teacher on special assignment at the Larchmont Charter School in Los Angeles, and author of Implementing Project Based Learning in Early Childhood. You can find her on Twitter @saramlev.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Regardless of what strategies school leaders use to improve learning, one thing is for certain: Students must be present to receive that learning. Student attendance is a critical issue for many schools across the country, and in this episode we discuss the assistant principal's role in tackling chronic absenteeism.

Donna McGuire is moderator for the NAESP Assistant Principal Community of Practice, and serves as assistant principal at Park Terrace School in New York City.

Sonia Matthew is assistant principal of Mary B. Neal Elementary School in Waldorf, Maryland, and a 2025 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal.

D’Metria Alston is assistant principal of Wilder Elementary School in Westerville, Ohio.

Join us this April to celebrate National Assistant Principals Week! Visit naesp.org/APWeek to learn more.

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In this powerful episode, Xavier Reed and Dr. Sharon Porter engage in a candid and thought-provoking conversation on anti-racist and inclusive leadership in education. Joined by NAESP President Kevin Armstrong and leadership expert Madeline McNeely, they explore strategies for fostering equitable school environments, dismantling systemic barriers, and leading with intentional inclusivity. This episode is a must-listen for educators, administrators, and leaders committed to transforming schools into spaces of belonging and empowerment for all students.

Kevin Armstrong, Ed.D. is executive principal at DuPont Hadley Middle School in Old Hickory, Tennessee, and 2024-2025 NAESP President.

Madeline McNeely, M.Ed. is an author, speaker, executive coach, and founder and CEO of Conditioning Leaders.

Sharon Porter is principal of Allenwood Elementary School in Temple Hills, Maryland, and has just started her inaugural year as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and is continuing his second year as fellow at the center.

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Join the Center for Diversity Leadership fellows for a powerful conversation with Dr. Trudi Lebron, DEI expert and author, as we explore the transformative impact of equity-centered practices on schools, students, and communities.

Sharon Porter is principal of Rose Valley Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and has just started her inaugural year as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and is continuing his second year as fellow at the center.

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Although wellness has always been crucial, it has become increasingly relevant in recent years. Today, wellness coach and expert Molly Funk joins us as we learn the importance of social-emotional wellness for students and educators alike, and how principals can demonstrate leadership through practicing wellness themselves.

Molly Funk is an integrative educator wellness coach and professional learning facilitator.

Andy Jacks is principal of Ellis Elementary School in Manassas, Virginia, and senior fellow at the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership.

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When there are significant shifts in what we know about education, it can take a long time before those changes reach all teachers. For Erik Francis, Depth of Knowledge (DOK) is one such framework that needs reexamination. But these shifts don't happen with trainings alone—they require leadership to implement effectively. Francis sat down with the Center for Innovative Leadership to discuss the future of DOK, and how principals play an essential part in successful professional development

Erik Francis is an author and speaker, and currently employs his 25 years of experience in education as owner and operator of professional development company Maverik Education.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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How should AI be incorporated—or not—into school? Although it's latest iteration is relatively new, veteran educator and author Holly Clark has plenty of experience negotiating the relationship between technology and education, joins us to offer her thoughts on the promises and limits of artificial intelligence in education.

Holly Clark is a speaker, best-selling author, educator, and dedicated advocate for digital learning.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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When Bryan Byerlee's school building was set for reconstruction, three basic needs were prioritized: warm, safe, and dry. But those were just the baseline non-negotiables. What he and others would come to recognize is how redesigning a school is a unique opportunity to empower students, shape school culture, and improve learning overall.

Bryan Byerlee is principal of Garden City Elementary School in Cranston, Rhode Island.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Often in conversations about the teaching elementary vs. secondary students, it's easy to overlook those at the middle level. More than a simple overlap of both categories, children in these grades have their own unique needs. Fortunately, at our annual conference in Nashville, the NAESP Center for Middle-Level Leadership fellows had an opportunity to sit down with Katie Powell of the Association for Middle Level Education to discuss how principals can better understand and serve middle-level students.

Katie Powell is Director for Middle Level Programs at the Association for Middle Level Education.

Dr. Todd Brist is principal of Watertown Middle School in Watertown, South Dakota, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Middle-Level Leadership.

Jessica Cabeen is principal of Austin Online Academy in Minnesota, as well as a past fellow at the NAESP Center for Middle-Level Leadership.

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Some educators might feel limited when it comes to outdoor learning options. Sure, there's sports, the odd field trip, and maybe holding a class or two outside—weather permitting. Today's guest comes to us from a unique and innovative school in Oregon that is blazing trails by teaching outside every day. We hear how rewarding it is for the students they serve, and what principals can take away from this model and bring to their schools.

Heidi McKay is executive director of Down to Earth Forest School in West Linn, Oregon.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Where are you on your leadership journey? How has equity informed that journey? What is your "why" as a school leader? In this episode of the NAESP Principal Podcast, Xavier Reed discusses these questions and more with Sharon Porter, the newest fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Sharon Porter is principal of Rose Valley Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and has just started her inaugural year as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and is continuing his second year as fellow at the center.

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It’s all too easy to assume that schools need to focus only on standards and benchmarks at the expense of everything else. Baltimore-based principal Traci Mathena joins us today to explain how enriching educational opportunities are something all students should receive, and shares how her school is benefitting from play-based and place-based learning.

Traci Mathena is principal of Creative City Public Charter School in Baltimore, Maryland.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Today we're joined by members of NAESP's Latino+ Network to discuss the perspectives of Latino students, staff, and administrators. Whether it's the unique needs of students, engaging with the broader community, or the importance of representation in teaching and leadership, understanding these perspectives is crucial to the success of our schools.

Annette Sanchez is principal of Hampton-Moreno-Dugat Early Childhood Center in Beeville, Texas, and serves as NAESP state representative for Texas.

Chris Jackson is principal of Hollinger K-8 School in Tuscon, Arizona.

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Quality early childhood education has a huge impact on any student's success as they learn and grow. Often those with limited experience with their youngest learners quickly find themselves searching for more ways improve in this crucial area. Today we talk with one educator who's commitment to improving learning in the early grades empowered her practice and made a real difference in her school.

Leslie Selberg Viveiros, is fine arts coordinator at the Carlucci American International School of Lisbon in Portugal.

Julie Bloss, a retired principal, is fellow at the NAESP Center for Early Learning Leadership and instructor for NAESP's Principal Leadership for The Early Grades program.

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Though a title change can quickly take someone from a team member to its leader, the qualities one needs to lead stem from a career long journey of growth, and principals have a special role to play in fostering this leadership at their schools. Texas school leaders Dr. Shelby Calabrese and Dr. Alejandra Perez join us to discuss how better hiring practices and a culture of recognition can help create a robust pipeline to leadership.

Dr. Shelby Calabrese is principal of Harvard Elementary School in Houston, Texas.

Dr. Alejandra Perez is assistant principal of Harvard Elementary School in Houston, Texas.

Danny Bauer is a principal retention development expert, best-selling author, and host of the Better Leader, Better Schools podcast.

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School leaders have a huge role to play when it comes to the success of special education in their schools. Principals can shape how IEP meetings are conducted, ensure specialists are getting what they need, and set the tone for the entire school's approach to special education. We sat down with folks from the newly formed Lead IDEA Center to discuss this role, and how school leaders can move from simply meeting obligations to truly committing to improving special education.

Abigail Foley, Ed.D. is director of the Lead IDEA Center at the American Institutes for Research.

David Bateman, Ph.D. is co-principal investigator at the Lead IDEA Center.

Lynn Holdheide, M.S. is co-principal investigator at the Lead IDEA Center.

Andy Jacks, Ed.D. is principal at Ellis Elementary School in Manassas, Virginia, and senior fellow at the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership.

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As the academic year starts back up, principals have an opportunity to hone in on their school's unique identity. Taking time to truly reflect on the culture and demographics of a school and its community can help leaders set the tone, vision, and direction for their students. Join us today as we discuss strategies that center student voice and agency, and how principals can leverage their school's identity to foster a strong and positive learning environment.

Quennel Cooper, Ed.D. is principal of Prairie View Elementary School in Eden Prairie, Minnesota.

Harold McCray, Ed.D. is founding principal of MacArthur High School in Washington, D.C.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and previously also served as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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Hiring can be a challenging process for any principal, but getting it right is crucial to the success of your school. Today we discuss why being intentional in our hiring practices is so important. We explore strategies for evaluating needs, fostering inclusivity, and navigating the dual nature of hiring: mourning departures while seizing opportunities to fill vital roles within the team.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and also serves as a fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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As summer approaches, principals will no doubt be reflecting on their schools' progress, and what it means heading into the school year. And as with any process, equity should be a key area of consideration by school leaders. In this episode, we discuss how personal experiences influence equity approaches, how to establish common definitions, creating supportive systems, and building capacity for equitable leadership within schools and districts.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and also serves as a fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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Project-based learning (PBL) isn't a new concept, but that doesn't mean there aren't new ways to approach it. South Carolina principal Beth Foster joins us to talk about how her school is innovating it's implementation of PBL, strengthening student literacy, relationships, and more.

Beth Foster is principal of Anderson Mill Elementary in Moore, South Carolina.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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In order for students to learn or for teachers to teach, attending to mental health is crucial. What role do principals play in ensuring those needs are met in their schools? Equetta Jones is joined by Cynthia Cardenas and Dr. Jerod Phillips to discuss strategies to help their students, staff, and school community with their mental health needs.

Cynthia Cardenas is principal of Orchard Elementary School in Orem, Utah.

Dr. Jerod Phillips is principal of David E. Robinson Elementary School in Magnolia, Delaware.

Equetta Jones is principal of Love Creek Elementary School in Lewes, Delaware, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Early Career Principal Community of Practice.

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Providing a safe and secure environment is one of the most essential obligations for anyone looking after children, and principals have a unique role to play in creating such an environment at their schools. Today Equetta Jones talks school safety with principals Ashley Farrington and Dr. Jessica Grant, sharing their strategies for ensuring students, staff, and families feel safe and secure at their schools.

Ashley Farrington is principal of Birchview Elementary School in Plymouth, Minnesota, and president-elect of the Minnesota Elementary School Principals' Association.

Dr. Jessica Grant is dedicated leader of a K-5 school in Prince Georges County Public Schools in Maryland.

Equetta Jones is principal of Love Creek Elementary School in Lewes, Delaware, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Early Career Principal Community of Practice.

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A principal's job involves a broad variety of roles, responsibilities, and communities. So it stands to reason that any school leader seeking to improve their practice should seek to grow in multiple ways. Dr. Ryan Daniel and Liz Garden, both of whom work within the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership, sit down with host Andy Jacks to discuss how this work has helped themselves and their peers grow.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Andy Jacks, Ed.D. is principal at The Nokesville School in Nokesville, Virginia, and senior fellow at the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership.

Learn more about the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership at naesp.org/CAL

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Most people intuitively understand kindness, but defining what it means, how it impacts those around us, and how to practice it can be truly revealing. We're joined by Houston Kraft, co-founder of CharacterStrong, and Nikki Sparks, lead of the American Student Council Association (ASCA), to discuss the ways principals, staff, and students specifically can lead with empathy to create a kinder school and community.

Houston Kraft is co-founder of CharacterStrong, an organization providing curriculum and training to help teach leadership, character, and social-emotional skills, and author of Deep Kindness, and Be Kind.

Nikki Sparks is assistant executive director of executive services and recognition programs at NAESP, administering programs such as ASCA, the President's Education Awards, and the National Distinguished Principal® program.

Donna McGuire is assistant principal at The Park Terrace School in New York City, a 2023 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal, and moderates the NAESP Assistant Principal Community of Practice.

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This July in Nashville, NAESP is excited to be hosting its annual conference jointly with the National Association of Secondary School Principals (NASSP) for UNITED: The National Conference on School Leadership. Host Andy Jacks is joined by NAESP President-Elect Kevin Armstrong and Associate Executive Director of Professional Learning Gracie Branch, to discuss what to expect and how school leaders and educators from all grade levels can learn and grow this summer.

Kevin Armstrong, Ed.D. is principal of DuPont Hadley Middle School in Old Hickory, Tennessee, and president-elect of NAESP.

Gracie Branch, Ph.D., is associate executive director of professional learning at NAESP.

Andy Jacks, Ed.D. is principal at The Nokesville School in Nokesville, Virginia, and senior fellow at the NAESP Centers for Advancing Leadership.

Learn more and register today at theunitedconference.org.

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School transformation is about more than just a change in name, or even a change in leadership. For Eric Chagala, principal of San Diego's VIDA Academy, culture is key. Chagala shares his story with Center for Innovative Leadership fellows Liz Garden and Scott Mcleod, and talks about the real reasons for VIDA Academy's successes.

Eric Chagala, Ed.D. is is the founding principal of the Vista Innovation & Design Academy (VIDA) in San Diego, California.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Should I stay, or should I go? That's the question many assistant or aspiring principals are asking themselves when considering whether to transition fully into the principalship. We sit down with two APs to discuss their advice on the when, how, and why of becoming a principal.

Shay Lewis is assistant principal at CREC Academy of Aerospace and Engineering Elementary School in Rocky Hills, Connecticut.

Delaney Rosenberg is assistant principal at a pre-K–8 school in Fremont, New Hampshire.

Donna McGuire is assistant principal at The Park Terrace School in New York City, a 2023 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal, and moderates the NAESP Assistant Principal Community of Practice.

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School leaders play a crucial role in guiding their teachers' math instruction. Donna McGuire, moderator of the NAESP Assistant Principal Community of Practice, is joined by two educators to share strategies specifically for APs that can help teachers conquer math anxiety, improve their pedagogy, and ultimately give math meaning at their schools.

Sabrina Antonelli is principal of Norwood Elementary School in Warwick, Rhode Island, and a 2023 NAESP National Distinguished Principal.

Sherry Knight is director of Curriculum, Instruction, and Equity in the Burlington (New Jersey) City School District.

Donna McGuire is assistant principal at The Park Terrace School in New York City, a 2023 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal, and moderates the NAESP Assistant Principal Community of Practice.

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One of a school leader's most important roles is to build connections with their entire school community. In particular, it's essential to ensure that engagement is culturally responsive and includes all students, families, and stakeholders. In this episode, we discuss strategies for fostering inclusive partnerships, and how crucial it is for students' holistic development, success, and well-being.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and also serves as a fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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When a lack of belonging is felt, it can have a huge impact on our personal lives. Today's episode centers on how a culture of belongingness and inclusion can be fostered at their schools. We discuss why it is important to create a sense of acceptance, inclusion, and identity, and what it means to allow students, staff, and families to come to school as their authentic selves.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and also serves as a fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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We know that a great school leader can have a powerful impact on the success of a school and its students. But how exactly do we get great principals? We sat down with Dr. Linda Darling-Hammond to discuss the latest research on developing effective principals, and how policymakers, districts, and educators can ensure school leaders have what they need to grow and thrive.

Dr. Linda Darling-Hammond is President and CEO of the Learning Policy Institute. She is also the Charles E. Ducommun Professor of Education Emeritus at Stanford University where she founded the Stanford Center for Opportunity Policy in Education and served as the faculty sponsor of the Stanford Teacher Education Program, which she helped to redesign.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Dr. Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

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Principals have an ethical obligation to ensure their students are provided an equitable education. But that's easier said than done, especially in the midst of charged conversations surrounding school communities. Mark Anthony Gooden joins us to discuss how principals can effectively discuss and implement plans to improve equity at their schools, and why it's so important that they do so.

Mark Anthony Gooden is Christian A. Johnson Endeavor Professor in Education Leadership, director of the Endeavor Antiracist & Restorative Leadership Initiative, and chair of the Department of Organization & Leadership at the Teachers College of Columbia University in New York City.

Liz Garden is principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary school in Mendon Massachusetts, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Scott McLeod is professor of educational leadership at the University of Colorado, Denver, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Innovative Leadership.

Want to learn more? Check out Gooden's Principal magazine article, "When the Fight for Equity Becomes an Ethical Dilemma." – https://bit.ly/3QZlWuJ

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By creating a shared voice, you can gain a deeper understanding and appreciation of your school communities’ different cultural, economic, and geographic circumstances to ultimately better serve your school. In their first episode together, Center for Diversity leadership fellows Dr. Ryan Daniel and Xavier Reed team up to discuss what shared voice means to them, and how they implement it through their leadership.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and serves as fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Xavier Reed is principal of Central Middle School in Wayzata, Minnesota, and also serves as a fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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Although policies made at the local, state, and federal level can profoundly impact schools, it doesn't have to be a one-way street. School leaders are perfectly positioned to both know what educators need, and to effectively communicate with policy-makers. We sat down with two principals to discuss how they stay engaged with lawmakers, and what steps school leaders can take to embrace the role of principal advocate.

Joshua Gill is principal of Ayaprun Elitnaurvik Elementary School in Bethel, Alaska, and a 2023 National Distinguished Principal.

Samantha Walder is principal of Tea Area Legacy Elementary School in Tea, South Dakota, and a 2023 National Distinguished Principal.

David Griffith is associate executive director of policy and advocacy at NAESP.

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Principals are charged with ensuring their schools adhere to standards, whether it's related to curriculum, building safety, or otherwise. But foundational to a school leader's practice are ethical standards, which are woven throughout everything they do. We sat down with several administrators to discuss what it means to be an ethical leader, and how principals can best hold themselves to the highest standards.

Scott Borba is superintendent-principal of Le Grand Union Elementary School District in Califor­nia. He also sits on NAESP’s board as the repre­sentative of Zone 9 and is an adjunct professor at California’s State University– Stanislaus for school law.

Diane Edwards is chief academic officer for Chesapeake (Virginia) Public Schools and supports NAESP in coaching mentors.

Jayne Ellspermann is founder and CEO of Jayne Ellspermann LLC, a school leadership development company. She has spent 40 years in education, 25 of them as a school principal.

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Whether it's through conferences, their district, or even social media, great things can happen when school leaders connect to discuss problems of practice and strategies for success. Today's guests share how their unique opportunity to do so on a frequent and consistent basis through "Mastermind" groups has helped them grow as leaders and improve their schools.

Andrea Thompson works at the Delaware State Department of Education, and serves as facilitator for NAESP Mastermind Groups.

Raine Bradley serves as an assistant principal at Glasgow Middle School in Alexandria, Virginia.

Jessica Zimmer is principal of Forest Lake Elementary School in Wantagh, New York.

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The role of principal can be a lonely one, which is why it is essential to find meaningful support networks. That's especially true for educators like Edward Anderson, Damon Qualls, and Farrell Thomas of the Bold Leadership Network. They joined us to discuss the unique challenges and successes that come with leading as a Black male educator, and how connecting with each other has improved their practice, well-being, and the school communities they serve.

Edward Anderson is executive director of On Track Greenville, leveraging public and private partnerships to keep kids on track to graduate from high school.

Damon Qualls is a former principal from Greenville, South Carolina, and co-founder and consultant at the Bold Leadership Network.

Farrell Thomas is principal of The Gray Court-Owings Elementary & Middle School in Gray Court, South Carolina.

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In part two of our conversation on back-to-school approaches from NAESP’s annual conference, Danny Bauer is joined by principals Carmen Maring, Ginny Gills, and Loren Brody to discuss more strategies for success as they begin their school year. Whether it's being present in their practice, emphasizing their own growth, or prioritizing the right kinds of work, they have plenty to share with one another and their fellow school leaders.

Carmen Maring, Ed.D. is principal of Gull Lake Middle School in Richland, Michigan, and serves as the NAESP Director at Large, Middle-Level.

Ginny Gills is principal of Cumberland County Elementary School in Cumberland, Virginia, and serves on the Virginia Association of Elementary School Principals Board of Directors.

Loren Brody serves as an elementary school principal in Alexandria, Virginia.

Danny Bauer is a principal retention development expert, best-selling author, and host of the Better Leader, Better Schools podcast.

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Every principal has a different approach when planning for the new school year. What challenges they face, and the solutions they seek. NAESP’s annual conference presented the perfect opportunity for school leaders to come together and share their stories and strategies. Principals Danya Woods and Brian Miller sat down with Danny Bauer to discuss their approaches, and how they can learn from each other to ensure success going into the school year.

Danya Tiara Woods is assistant principal at Joseph E. Johnson Elementary school in Wilmington, Delaware.

Brian T. Miller is principal of North Middle School in Great Falls, Montana.

Danny Bauer is a principal retention development expert, best-selling author, and host of the Better Leader, Better Schools podcast.

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Summer is typically the ideal time for schools to begin to fill vacancies and plan for the upcoming year. For principals, it is important to be utilizing equitable hiring practices when identifying the best teachers for our students. Ryan Daniel shares some of her experiences and strategies when it comes to ensuring your school is hiring with an eye for equity.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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Assistant principal Natalie Nelson has one mantra she has always emphasized: "people precede product and process." Prioritizing those around her has helped her throughout her career as a dedicated servant leader. Adam and Rachael sit down with Natalie to talk about her role as an AP and why it's crucial to stay people-focused.

Natalie Nelson serves as assistant principal at Clara H. Carlson School in Elmont, New York.

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Donna McGuire, an assistant principal in New York City, is happy to rely on her principal and colleagues in her district for help. But she's also not afraid to reach out further afield to fellow APs in her network, even when they're in a different state or school community. Adam and Rachael sit down with her to find out how being facilitator for NAESP's Assistant Principal Community of Practice has shown her the value in connecting with fellow APs, and the kind of support and assistance it provides.

Donna McGuire is assistant principal at P.S. 018 in New York City, and also serves as facilitator for the NAESP Assistant Principal Community of Practice.

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When asked how her year is going, new assistant principal Katie Laird is quick to thank her school and community for providing a welcoming environment. But anyone starting off is bound to face surprises in their new role. Adam and Rachael sit down with Katie to discuss her first year on the job, both challenging and rewarding, and what to expect from the assistant principalship.

Katie Laird serves as assistant principal at Hillcrest Middle School in Trumbull, Connecticut.

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The principal's role can be a lonely one, but it doesn't have to be. Creating connections is essential for any school leader, and no one knows that better than Scott Borba. Serving as both principal and superintendent in his district in California—as well as being an active member of NAESP—he highlights the importance and benefits of staying engaged with professional associations and collegial networks. Adam and Rachael sit down with Scott to discuss his multiple roles, and his advice for educators seeking these crucial connections.

Scott Borba is principal and superintendent at Le Grand Union Elementary in Le Grand, California, and serves as director of Zone 9 on the NAESP board. He is also a member of the 2017 class of NAESP National Distinguished Principals.

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Knowing who we are and how we are seen in the world is as complex as it is essential. Understanding intersectionality is crucial for principals looking to better understand their students, school community, and themselves. Today Center for Diversity Leadership Fellow Dr. Edgardo Castro is joined by Dr. Jennifer Haan to discuss how intersecting identities shape us, and ways we can acknowledge, understand, and support students and educators in your school.

Jennifer M. Haan, Ph.D. is an assistant professor and program coordinator of educational leadership at Sul Ross State University, who's research focuses on social justice leadership as related to the experiences of students in the K-12 public education system.

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In this popular Women in Leadership episode from the NAESP Principal Podcast archive, Andrea Thompson and Jessica Gomez are joined by Florida principal Tiffany Emanuel-Wright to talk successful strategies to address negative thinking. In this episode, we cover:

  • Recognizing when and how negativity arises
  • Finding help through networks
  • The impact of negative thoughts on confidence
  • Staying focused on the work

Tiffany Emanuel-Wright is principal of Love Grove Elementary in Jacksonville, Florida.

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Jackie Wilson has had many roles over the course of her career in education, from being a para-professional, a classroom teacher, a principal, and an advocate for education policies. Andrea Thompson and Jessica Gomez sat down with Dr. Wilson to discuss her journey, including challenges as a woman navigating moving though her career, and her advice to others on how to learn and grow.

Jackie Wilson, Ed.D. is executive director of the National Policy Board Educational Administration and Assistant Professor at the University of Delaware’s School of Education.

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A great tool or program can make a world of difference for a school looking to advance its teaching. But central to those programs are dedicated teachers who already demonstrate great practices every day. Missouri principal Jenni Hayes sits down with Adam and Rachael to discuss her approach to school leadership, including program vs. practice, K-12 alignment, and what brings her joy as a principal.

Jenni Hayes is principal of Grandview Elementary School in Higgins, Missouri, and an NAESP state representative for the Missouri Association of Elementary School Principals.

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Sometimes we’re caught looking for that one silver bullet for school improvement. But when asked how he leads his high-performing school, Arizona principal Chris Jackson gives credit to the families and students that come in every day. Adam Welcome and Rachael George sit down with Jackson to discuss how a learner-centered approach yields success in the long run.

Chris Jackson is principal of Mountain View Elementary in Rio Rico, Arizona, where he has served for 8 years.

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Principals may be leaders at their school, but they’re always at their best when learning with and from their colleagues, community, and beyond. That could mean Idaho principal Tim Lowe bringing together staff and community members to learn about their culture, or Washington principal Jack Arend working with fellow educators to advocate for change in the state legislature. In today’s episode, Adam Welcome and Rachael George sit down with these innovative school leaders to discuss strategies that help principals grow together.

Tim Lowe is principal of William Howard Taft elementary in Boise, and serves the Idaho state representative and federal relations coordinator for NAESP.

Jack Arend serves as deputy director of the Association of Washington School Principals.

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School leaders must understand that in order to build a positive school culture they must prioritize understanding the experiences and perspectives of others. Empathetic leadership is an essential component of school leadership. Today, Dr. Ryan Daniel and Dr. Edgardo Castro discuss ways principals can build and sustain a culture of empathy at their schools.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Dr. Edgardo Castro is Director of Learning Services at Truth or Consequences Municipal Schools in New Mexico, and fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

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Ensuring a fair and equitable education for students is essential to their success and well-being, which is why it is so important for principals to understand implicit bias. Whether it manifests in students, staff, or importantly themselves, school leaders should be aware of the impact of bias and how to address it. In this episode, Center for Diversity Leadership fellow Dr. Ryan Daniel talks with Dr. William Blake about what implicit bias means to them, and strategies to both acknowledge and address these biases in their work and lives.

Dr. William Blake, a former teacher and principal, currently serves as director of redesign in the District of Columbia Public Schools.

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For educators seeking new perspectives and ways to grow, it's hard to compete with a good book. And as Adam and Rachael discuss in this special episode, those books don't even have to be education focused to be of value. From vinyards to music venues, principals can read between the lines to find inspiration for their own work. For your reference, here's a list of titles mentioned:

  • Living with the Monks: What Turning Off My Phone Taught Me about Happiness, Gratitude, and Focus by Jesse Itzler
  • The Winemaker's Wife, by Kristin Harmel
  • Big Little Breakthroughs: How Small, Everyday Innovations Drive Oversized Results, by Josh Linkner
  • Upstream: How to Solve Problems Before They Happen, by Dan Heath
  • The Storyteller: Tales of Life and Music, by Dave Grohl
  • Greenlights, by Matthew McConaughey
  • A Principal's Guide to Special Education, by David F. Bateman and C. Fred Bateman

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Being a relatively new principal at your school is hard enough as it is—adding a pandemic on top of that definitely makes it harder. Arizona principal Garth Cupp sits down with us to discuss how despite these challenges, his school managed to get it done and continues to do so.

Garth Cupp is principal of in Kyrene Monte Vista Elementary School in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Every student in my classroom deserves an equal chance despite their differences, what can we do as school leaders to ensure that? Equity in education is the process of reforming practices, policies, and procedures at the school and district levels to support academic fairness and inclusion. This ensures every child has everything they need to be successful, like resources, teachers, and interventions. Today we are pleased to feature NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership fellows Ryan Daniel and Edgardo Castro as they discuss how school leaders can create a common language of what equity looks and feels like.

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Fort Washington, Maryland, and fellow at the Center for Diversity Leadership.

Dr. Edgardo Castro is Director of Learning Services at Truth or Consequences Municipal Schools in New Mexico, and fellow at the Center for Diversity Leadership.

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Personal success as a principal should be applauded, but the true measure of achievement for leaders is how they contribute to the success of those around them. In this episode we sit down with Donna McGuire as she shares how, as a woman in leadership, she embraces the concept of "lifting as we climb"

Donna McGuire is a school administrator in the New York City school system where she has served proudly for over 15 years.

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What does it take to effectively lead a school? There are plenty of skills and strategies to look to, but critical to the success of any principal is effective preparation and development. Adam and Rachael talk to Marjorie Wechsler, a researcher at the Learning Policy Institute, to discuss their recent study, "Developing Effective Principals: What Kind of Learning Matters?" In this episode we cover:

  • What makes for high quality preparation and development programs
  • How to seek out development opportunities
  • The importance of applied learning
  • How to address standards

Dr. Marjorie Wechsler is the Principal Research Manager at the Learning Policy Institute, where she leads mixed-methods research studies related to teacher and leader quality and early childhood learning.

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Why did you become a principal? What would you tell teachers at your school to get them to actually want to become an administrator? These are just a few questions Maryland principal Ed Cosentino reflected on in today's episode. Join the conversation as we discuss:

  • What people don't understand about being a principal
  • How to plan your day effectively
  • The journey of a school leader
  • What you are most proud of at your school

Ed Cosentino is principal of Clemens Crossing Elementary School in Columbia, Maryland, and currently serves on the NAESP Board of Directors as director of Zone 3.

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In this popular episode from the NAESP Principal Podcast archive, Oregon educator LaKeyshua Washington joins us to discuss effective supervision and evaluation of teachers and staff, covering:

  • The good and bad of evaluations and supervision
  • The difference between supervising and coaching
  • How to get the most out of the process

LaKeyshua Washington serves as director of teaching and learning-secondary in Gresham-Barlow School District in Gresham, Oregon, supporting middle and high school principals, assistant principals, and teachers in curriculum, instruction, and assessment. Washington most recently served as a middle school principal in Compton, California.

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Principals put in a lot of work towards taking care of the staff, students, and families they serve. But too often they forget to take care of themselves. Adam and Rachael sit down to discuss what wellness means to them and how to practice it every day. Plus, we hear wellness tips and strategies from school leaders Liz Garden, Darryl Diggs, and Ron Poland. In this episode, we cover:

  • Why wellness is so critical
  • Being intentional and committed to self-care
  • Negotiating a proper work-life balance
  • Encouraging wellness at your school

Liz Garden is a blogger, author, and serves as principal of Henry P. Clough Elementary School in Menden Massachusetts.

Dr. Darryl Diggs, a former principal, currently serves as Assistant Director of Equity for Teaching and Learning at the Special School District of St. Louis County, Missouri.

Ron Poland serves as NAESP state representative for Nevada, and has been recognized as a 2022 NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal for his leadership at Rose Warren Elementary School in Las Vegas.

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With all the stress and challenges faced by school leaders this year, how do principals deal with it all? As she transitions into the role of principal coach, Dr. Shana Henry has some sage advice for new and veteran principals alike on how they can better pace themselves and still lead effectively. Adam and Rachel sit down with Dr. Henry to discuss:

  • What and how to prioritize
  • Leaning on others for support
  • How to handle stressful situations
  • How to manage high workloads and find balance

Dr. Shana Henry is principal of Katherine Johnson Middle School in Sacramento, California, and hosts the Principals of Success Podcast.

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It’s easy to get siloed as a principal, and forget the wealth of advice and support that can come from fellow school leaders. Adam and Rachael sit down with a principal they met at this year’s conference in Louisville, Nicole Boone, to chat about the job and share some simple leadership tips. In this episode we discuss:

  • The benefits of networking with fellow leaders
  • New strategies she’s excited about this year
  • How her leadership journey started
  • Advice for new principals

Nicole Boone is principal of Laburnum Elementary School in Henrico, Virginia.

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There's a fine line between overconfidence and selling yourself short. Walking this tightrope can be challenging, particularly for women in leadership. Alabama educator Dr. Demica Sanders has honed her confidence over her career, and shares with Andrea and Jessica how and why it is important to walk and talk with confidence. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Barriers to being confident
  • Overcoming fears
  • What walking in confidence looks like
  • Having honest conversations

Dr. Demica Sanders is a former school administrator, and currently serves as executive director of Professional Learning with Council for Leaders in Alabama Schools.

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As principals start off the year and work on school improvement or professional growth, its helpful to identify strategies that can help them throughout the year. Adam Welcome and Rachael George sit down with veteran Idaho principal Heather Hepworth to discuss what works, including:

  • Starting off strong at the beginning of the year
  • Looking ahead towards the end of the year
  • How to prioritize and organize
  • How to implement change

Heather Hepworth is principal of Acequia Elementary School in Rupert, Idaho.

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Any good leader knows when to both listen, and when to raise their hand and speak up. But gender-based expectations about using your voice and being confident are too often limiting for women in leadership. Andrea Thompson and Jessica Gomez sit down with principal Jennifer Black to discuss:

  • Importance of trust
  • Developing self-compassion and confidence
  • Being a role model for others
  • The benefits of speaking up

Jennifer Black is principal of Lincoln Elementary School in North Las Vegas, and is president-elect of the Nevada Elementary School Principals Association.

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Successful leaders are generally given license to be proud of their work, but all too often women are made to feel either that they have achieved less or that they should be quiet about their achievements. Center for Women in Leadership fellows Jessica Gomez and Andrea Thompson sit down with principal Shanessa Fenner to talk about how and why this problem exists. In this episode we discuss:

  • How stereotypes and mindsets diminish women's voices
  • Whether self-confidence is truly at issue
  • The importance of a supportive network
  • Not feeling guilty for taking pride in success

Dr. Shanessa Fenner is a writer, has appeared on radio and television, and serves as the proud principal of William T. Brown Elementary School in Spring Lake, North Carolina.

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Social-emotional learning (SEL) has become a priority for schools in recent years, especially with the impact of the pandemic. Implementing high-quality SEL that meets the needs of all students is essential, but requires a strong understanding of fundamentals to. That's why NAESP Executive Director Earl Franks sat down with the president of CASEL, Dr. Aaliyah Samuel, to discuss this critical topic. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Systemic implementation of SEL
  • Recognizing the role of student voice
  • How equity relates to SEL
  • Being an advocate with stakeholders

Dr. Aaliyah Samuel is president and CEO of CASEL: the Collaborative for Academic, Social, and Emotional Learning. With decades of experience as a teacher, principal, and national education leader, she leads CASEL in its mission to support evidence-based SEL to support all students learning and development.

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At this year's conference in Louisville, Adam Welcome sat down for a quick chat with Jessica Cabeen to share strategies and ideas for practicing principals. In this special episode, they discuss:

  • Focusing on strengths instead of weaknesses
  • How to start connecting with other leaders
  • How crucial work-life balance is to success

Jessica Cabeen is principal of Ellis Middle School in Austin, Minnesota, as well as an author and fellow at the NAESP Center for Middle-Level Leadership.

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Have you ever felt that despite success in your role, you feel you're somehow unworthy of it? You're not alone: This phenomenon, known as "imposter syndrome," can have negative effects on a principal's work and well-being. Andrea and Jessica sit down with school leader Tequila Lamar to discuss the what, how, and why of imposter syndrome. In this episode we cover:

  • How to recognize these feelings and put them perspective
  • How it specifically impacts women
  • How imposter syndrome manifests in the education world
  • Seeking support from peers and advocates

Tequila Lamar has worked as an educational leader for the past 15 years at various grade levels, and is currently head of school at Centennial Academy in downtown Atlanta, Georgia.

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It's great when schools do good work, but even better when principals are able to talk about it. Good communication is essential for stakeholder engagement, and the overall success of your students and school. Adam Welcome and Rachael George are joined by Centers for Advancing Leadership fellows Dr. Ryan Daniel and Jessica Gomez, to talk about communication. In this episode we discuss:

  • Why communication matters
  • Using traditional means like newsletters
  • Newer forms such as podcasts and YouTube
  • How to adjust and adapt as needed

Dr. Ryan Daniel is principal of Fort Foote Elementary School in Hyattsville, Maryland, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Diversity Leadership.

Jessica Gomez is principal of Alice Birney Elementary School in Colton, California, and a fellow at the NAESP Center for Women in Leadership.

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No matter how confident you are as a leader, self-doubt, anxiety, and generally negative thoughts always have a way of creeping up. Though often unavoidable, there are ways principals can address negative thinking. Andrea Thompson and Jessica Gomez are joined by Florida principal Tiffany Emanuel-Wright to talk successful strategies. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Recognizing when and how negativity arises
  • Finding help through networks
  • The impact of negative thoughts on confidence
  • Staying focused on the work

Tiffany Emanuel-Wright is principal of Love Grove Elementary in Jacksonville, Florida.

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The first few years of a principalship can often be the hardest, but great leaders work hard every day no matter how long they've been in their role. We sit down with Missouri principal Bryan Campbell who has been leading his school for 15 years to learn. We discuss:

  • Developing relationships with staff
  • Maintaining a strong school culture
  • Setting and achieving goals
  • Continuing to grow professionally

Bryan Campbell has been a principal for over 15 years at Maplecrest elementary school in Lebanon, Missouri. You can find him on Twitter at @bcampbell70.

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Every leader has an important story to tell, but too often women are expected to share their successes quietly—if at all. Center for Women in Leadership fellows Jessica Gomez and Andrea Thompson sit down with Michigan principal Allyson Apsey to discuss how women can take ownership of their own stories. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Getting comfortable highlighting successes
  • Ways to tell your own story
  • Overcoming barriers to sharing

Allyson Apsey is an author, conference presenter, and principal of Quincey Elementary in Zeeland, Michigan.

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The contributions of assistant principals at their schools can never be understated. Carise Echols should know: Her stellar service as an AP landed her an NAESP National Outstanding Assistant Principal award. Adam and Rachel sit down with her to talk leadership as an AP, and to discuss:

  • Finding balance
  • Staying connected to the classroom
  • Taking the leap from AP to principal

Carise Echols currently serves an assistant principal for Carolyn Lewis Elementary in Conway, Arkansas, but will be stepping into the role of principal this summer. Echols is a member of NAESP's 2022 class of National Outstanding Assistant Principals.

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Juggling work and family life can feel overwhelming at times, especially for women. Center for Women in Leadership fellows Jessica Gomez and Andrea Thompson sit down with speaker and former principal Pam Gildersleeve-Hernandez to discuss how principals can strike the right balance between their personal and professional lives. In this episode we discuss:

  • Unique challenges faced by women leaders
  • The importance of creating and maintaining boundaries
  • Modeling/setting expectations for staff

Pam Gildersleeve-Hernandez is an experienced educator and former principal, as well as a renowned speaker, author, and coach. You can find her on Twitter at @pgilders.

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Reading is just as important to a principals learning as it is to the students they serve. Whether it offers practical advice for educators or thoughtful tips for personal growth, a good book can have a huge impact. In this episode Adam and Rachael sit down to talk about some of their recent favorites, and recommend some good reads for school leaders.

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Women leaders can often face unique challenges, but one strength they can draw upon should never be ignored: each other. Center for Women in Leadership fellows Jessica Gomez and Andrea Thompson sit down with Massachusetts principal Liz Garden to talk about how crucial this support can be. In this episode, we discuss:

  • The impact of strong sisterhoods
  • Believing in yourself
  • How to start and sustain strong connections
  • How to help other women rise and shine

Liz Garden is principal of Leroy E. Mayo elementary, vice president of the Massachusetts School Administrators' Association, and a regular contributor to Principal magazine where she serves as an editorial adviser.

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Join Adam Welcome and Rachael George as they talk simple leadership tips that can make principals lives easier and their practice stronger. In this episode we discuss:

  • When to treat something as urgent
  • Keeping things simple
  • How to manage relationships
  • Engaging with criticism productively

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Self-care can be a frequently overlooked aspect of leadership, especially for women. Jessica Gomez and Andrea Thompson, fellows at the NAESP Center for Women in Leadership, sit down with Principal Sarah Harrington to discuss:

  • Tips for practicing self-care
  • The value in finding a sisterhood
  • Incorporating mindfulness into daily routines
  • The importance of physical wellbeing

Sarah Harrington is principal of Lake Ridge Elementary School, Woodbridge, Virginia.

The NAESP Center for Women in Leadership is dedicated to the strategic study of women administrators and the unique challenges that they face as educational leaders because of their gender. The work of the center is multifaceted, focusing on identifying strategies to elevate women as they pursue career opportunities, creating a strong network of women leaders, and eliminating gender bias. You can find out more about NAESP and the Center for Women in Leadership at naesp.org.

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No matter what equipment or resources you have at your disposal, there's nothing more important to school success than the people working there. We sit down with Ryan Sheehy, a district-level director of human resources, to learn the best ways to find and keep great staff. In this episode we discuss:

  • How to recruit and advertise openings
  • How to support and retain teachers
  • How to work within limitations at the building-level

Ryan Sheehy is a former elementary school principal, high school assistant principal, and in addition to being a published author currently serves as director of human resources at Mt. Diablo Unified School District in California.

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School improvement is an ongoing process, with changes both big and small. We sit down with Oregon principal Kimberly Miles to talk about how she leads through these changes. In this episode we discuss:

  • What it means to be a turnaround principal
  • How focus has shifted from before the pandemic to now
  • How to support teachers and help them grow in the face of high levels of stress and burnout

Kimberly Miles is principal of East Gresham Elementary school in Oregon. You can find her on Twitter at @afewthingsworth.

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Adam and Rachael sit with Oregon educators Sara Hertel and Chris Wyland to continue their discussion on the significant impact morning meetings can have on students social-emotional learning and achievement. In this episode we discuss:

  • Staff professional development
  • The four parts of morning meetings
  • Two-way accountability
  • Next steps and embedding SEL into the school day

Sara Hertel is instructional coach/dean of students, and Chris Wyland is principal of Madras Elementary School in Madras, Oregon.

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Principals have to make tough calls that can have a big impact on the success of their school. And as a former NCAA official, New York principal Andrew Marotta is no stranger to making those calls. Adam and Rachael sit down to discuss:

  • How to overcome day-to-day challenges principals face
  • Lessons learned as an official that apply to school leadership
  • How principals can prepare for hiring season, especially in the midst of teacher shortages

Andrew Marotta is principal of Port Jervis High School in Port Jervis, New York, and author of The Principal: Surviving and Thriving.

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A focused and meaningful morning meeting can have a huge impact on student academic and social-emotional learning. Adam and Rachael sit with Oregon educators Sara Hertel and Chris Wyland to talk about how they've developed their morning meetings, what works, and how to implement it. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Creating community and connections in your schools
  • Supporting students and self-regulation skills
  • Tips for creating calm classrooms
  • Implementing strategy

Sara Hertel is instructional coach/dean of students, and Chris Wyland is principal of Madras Elementary School in Madras, Oregon.

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Though it's stating the obvious, a kindergartener learns vastly different from how a senior in high school does. But how is that difference reflected in the work of school leaders? We sit down with Colorado principal Carlos Perez to talk about his transition from high school to elementary. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Differences and similarities
  • Advice for principals making the transition
  • The importance of relationships

Carlos Perez is principal of Avondale Elementary School in Avondale, Colorado.

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School improvement is an essential, ongoing process. But new initiatives are too often overwhelming and cumbersome. We sit down with educator, author, and speaker Douglas Reeves to hone in on what's important to educating kids at your school. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Addressing unfinished learning
  • How to see grading
  • Effective PLCs
  • Creating a 100 day plan

Douglas Reeves is an acclaimed educational leader who has shared his expertise through numerous books and presentations, including at NAESP's annual conference. You can find him on Twitter at @DouglasReeves.

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Long time leaders have plenty to teach those new to the job. But the best veteran principals are still learning and growing themselves, despite their many years in the profession. Adam and Rachael sit down with Principal Beth Houf, a seasoned school leader, to discuss:

  • How the year is going
  • Challenges
  • Responding to the year
  • Embracing the power of no
  • Being present with family

Beth Houf is principal of Fulton Middle School in Fulton, Missouri, co-author of Lead Like a Pirate, and a 2016 NAESP National Distinguished Principal.

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Responding to emails can feel like a time-consuming chore that takes away from the more important parts of leading a school. Fortunately, there are smart ways principals can manage their inboxes effectively and make sure they are getting the most from their day. In this episode, Adam and Rachael discuss:

  • Communicating intentionally
  • The importance of delegation
  • Establishing healthy habits and boundaries
  • Prioritizing email vs. other modes of communications

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At their worst, staff meetings can feel monotonous, unnecessary, and frustrating. But there's no reason they can't be productive, worthwhile, and potentially even fun. Principals Allyson Apsey and Jessica Gomez join us to show that principals can make staff meetings better for everyone involved. We discuss:

  • How to foster collaboration
  • Creating a positive environment
  • Making meetings worthwhile
  • Quick and simple tips for improving staff meetings

Allyson Apsey is principal of Quincy Elementary School in Zeeland, Michigan

Jessica Gomez is principal of Alice Birney Elementary School in Colton, California.

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Ensuring students are educated in an equitable matter is a critical duty of schools and the principals that lead them. Adam and Rachael sit down with assistant principal and school board member David Jaimes to discuss the importance of equity and what it should mean for principals. This episode covers:

  • Explaining the "why" of equity
  • Tips for fostering educational equity
  • Stakeholder engagement and building trust
  • Having difficult conversations
  • Resource recommendations

David Jaimes is assistant principal of Edwards Elementary School in Newberg, Oregon.

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The start of the school year is full of challenges and opportunities, especially for folks leading a school for the first time. First-year Oregon principal Cassiday Hopkins sits down to chat with Adam and Rachel about her first-year experiences, and how they compare. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Challenges & successes
  • Balancing work and home
  • Tips for new leaders
  • How to prioritize

Cassiday Hopkins is principal of Sandy Grade School in Sandy, Oregon.

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Reading a great book remains a tried and true way to learn and grow—that's as true for principals as it is for students. Adam and Rachael sit down with school leaders Majalise Tolan and Brian McCann to talk about how important books are to their growth. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Book recommendations
  • How to pick books
  • Finding time to read
  • Supporting reluctant readers

Majalise Tolan is director of secondary education in Lincoln County, Oregon. She is an avid reader, writer, and is currently working on her first book to be released under the Lead Like a Pirate series.

Brian McCann is principal of Joseph Case High School in Swansea, Massachusetts, and a 2018 NASSP Digital Principal of the Year.

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We can't wait to head to Chicago for the 2021 NAESP Pre-K–8 Principals Conference! In this special episode, Adam and Rachel talk about how attendees can make the most of their experience. Between attending insightful sessions from expert leaders, or just meeting fellow educators from far and wide, there's no shortage of opportunities for growth.

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For principals, Summer is an opportunity for growth, reflection, and crucially: rest. We sit down with Minnesota principal Jessica Cabeen to talk about how principals can ensure they strike the right balance between taking care of yourself personally and professionally over the Summer. In this episode, we discuss:

  • Managing Summer goals
  • Professional vs. personal goals
  • Feeling deflated
  • Grounding yourself amongst the pivots and stress
  • Tips to recharge

Jessica Cabeen is principal of Ellis Middle School in Austin, Minnesota. She is a regular contributor to outlets such as Edutopia, SavED by Grace, and Principal magazine. As a fellow at NAESP's Center for Middle-Level Leadership, she will be speaking at NAESP's Pre-K–8 Principals Conference this July in Chicago.

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Congratulations, you've gotten through rounds of vetting, interviews, and are now serving as a principal of your school! But there's still plenty of work to do and challenges to unpack. We sat down with Rosalba Rodriguez—who is about to make the jump from AP to principal in her district—to discuss:

  • How the process unfolds
  • How it feels to be in this new position
  • Advice for aspiring leaders
  • Thoughts on the first 100 days
  • Planning for next year

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Supervising and evaluating teachers effectively is crucial for school success. But too often for teachers and principals it can feel like just a box being ticked. We sit down with Oregon educator LaKeyshua Washington to discuss how to ensure evaluation is seen and used as an opportunity for growth.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • The good and bad of evaluations and supervision
  • The difference between supervising and coaching
  • How to get the most out of the process

LaKeyshua Washington serves as director of teaching and learning-secondary in Gresham-Barlow School District in Gresham, Oregon, supporting middle and high school principals, assistant principals, and teachers in curriculum, instruction, and assessment. Washington most recently served as a middle school principal in Compton, California.

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The pandemic has presented daunting challenges for school systems, and there's an understandable fear that it's been a "lost" year for students. But maybe it's not quite as bad as we've been led to believe. Adam and Rachel sit down with Massachusetts principal Liz Garden take a look at the bright side and show how schools have risen to meet these challenges and grown in spite of the circumstances.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • The response in schools this past year
  • How resilient students have been
  • Positive changes and opportunities

Liz Garden is principal of Leroy E. Mayo Elementary School in Holden, Massachusetts.

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Every principal wants to start off a new school year on the right foot. But that strong start actually begins many months before classes even start. Adam and Rachael have a one-on-one discussing how principals can effectively plan for the next school year. In this episode, they discuss:

  • Grade placement of students
  • Kindergarten verses first grade
  • End-of-year standards
  • Transitions to next year
  • Sustainable leadership

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A commitment to providing a strong foundation to all students is crucial at any school. We sit down with Texas principal Danieli Parker about why Tier I instruction is so important for principals to focus on, regardless of their school's unique location or situation. In this episode, we discuss:

  • How to do well regardless of setting
  • Non-negotiables to keep the success going
  • Growth mindset
  • What to be mindful about
  • Moving forward with this focus

Danieli Parker is principal of Hallsville North Elementary in Hallsville, Texas. You can follow her on Twitter @danieli_parker.

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For principals, summer learning is more than just a reading list assigned to students. The summer break can offer more time for educators to learn and grow in their own practice. In this episode, we sit down with Chicago principal Dr. Efraín Martínez to share summer learning best practices. We discuss:

  • Strategies for students vs. strategies for you
  • Staff learning & growth
  • Who you learn from
  • Where you learn from
  • Book recommendations.

Dr. Efraín Martínez is the proud principal at Orozco Academy since 2015. Before beginning his principalship journey, Dr. Martínez worked as a Teacher Assistant of Spanish at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), as a 5th grade teacher at Rufino Tamayo Charter School, and an office manager at Rush University Medical Hospital, UIC, and at Northwestern University School of Medicine. Thanks to an opportunity with the Chicago Teaching Fellows, he became a certified Spanish teacher and taught at four schools in CPS. After two years as an assistant principal in both the south and north sides of the city, Dr. Martínez was fortunate to be unanimously elected to the most coveted principal spot in the area.

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In the midst of an ongoing pandemic, students across the country will still be taking standardized tests and assessments. Arkansas educator Bethany Hill joins us to share thoughts on testing during a pandemic, and how principals can respond to the challenges it presents.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • The role of assessments and testing
  • Knowing the student
  • Learning loss
  • Minimizing the impact on students and time
  • How to make the best of it

Bethany Hill is a teacher who is currently serving as an administrator. During her 23 years in education, she taught kindergarten, first, second, and third grades. She was a curriculum/academic coach for 3 years, an assistant principal in an K-4 building for 5 years, a principal in a P-4 building for 5 years, and is currently serving as an assistant principal in a P-4 building. All of her service has been in the Cabot School District in Cabot, Arkansas. 

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More often than not, what's working at your school depends on who's working there. Finding—and keeping—staff that have a positive impact is an essential part of every school's success.

In this episode, we're joined by Texas principal Porsha Dudley to discuss:

  • Finding the best candidates
  • How to support current staff
  • How geography affects staffing
  • The importance of classified staff
  • Why relationships & culture matter

Porsha Dudley is principal of Arizona Fleming Elementary school in Houston, Texas and has been an educator for the past 16 years. Connect with her on Twitter @PorshaDudley1.

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It's that time of year ... job hunting season. With the help of Zandra Jo Galván, a Superintendent from California, we get you geared up and fired up as you set your sights on the future.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Applying for the job
  • The power of connection
  • Interview hacks and tips
  • Resume tips and thoughts
  • Epic job hunt failures
  • Social media footprints and the power of presence

Zandra Jo Galván is superintendent of the Greenfield Union School District in California, and has worked in public education for the past 27 years. Connect with her on Twitter (@zjgalvan), Instagram (@zangalvan), Facebook, and LinkedIn.