The New Rules of Business: Recent Episodes
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How do you lead when “business as usual” has gone out the window? Enter The New Rules of Business, by Chief — the most powerful network of women executives. Chief Co-Founders Carolyn Childers and Lindsay Kaplan dig into today’s most challenging leadership questions, alongside world-renowned business minds and academics. They cover topics like where to spot the newest form of toxicity in the workplace, why executives should wade into uncharted socio-political waters, and how to manage through crisis (after crisis). Learn how to lead when the old rules just don’t apply.
Every business has non-promotable tasks — like proofing other people’s work, taking notes, and mentoring others — that need to get done by someone. Most of the time, that someone is a woman. In this episode, Lindsay talks with Dr. Lise Vesterlund, co-author of the No Club, about the burden of non-promotable work and what to do about it. Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
Stay tuned for an all-new season of the New Rules of Business from Chief, the most powerful network of women executives. This season, Chief Co-Founders Carolyn Childers and Lindsay Kaplan dig into complex leadership issues such as whether we can go too far in the pursuit of equity, the most damaging thinking traps for executives, and what the future holds for leadership archetypes. They’ll be joined by the best minds in business and academia including Yale Professor Woo-Kyoung Ahn, author Erica Dhawan, GDIT President Amy Gilliland, astronaut and former NASA Director Ellen Ochoa, and more.
When you’ve reached what feels like a career apex, it can be difficult to know what to pursue after. But, what if you didn’t have to pick just one lane? Increasingly, top executives are creating portfolio careers with multiple roles and income streams. Carolyn and Lindsay talk with Joanna Coles, former Chief Content Officer at Hearst Magazines, about how leaders can design what comes next.
Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
This episode is presented by Fidelity.
Note: This episode contains explicit language.
We all make investments in our professional selves. But for some, it costs a lot more than a tailored suit and an MBA degree to be taken seriously. People in marginalized groups often invest significant time and attention into code-switching — that is, changing themselves to meet the corporate ideal. Is it worth it? Carolyn and Lindsay talk with Courtney McCluney, Assistant Professor of Organizational Behavior at Cornell University, about the hidden costs of code-switching — both for the leaders who do it and for the organizations that make it the norm.
Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
This episode is presented by Fidelity.
Every executive has been coached on their public speaking at one point or another in their leadership journey. But has all the advice about removing vocal fry and avoiding hedged phrases actually made you sound less authoritative but more like a straight white man? Carolyn and Lindsay talk to Samara Bay, vocal coach and author of "Permission to Speak", about the new rules of public speaking and how women and people of color can use their natural voice to command the room.
Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
This episode is presented by Fidelity.
Leaders know to never waste a good crisis. But the true art is figuring out the how. Carolyn and Lindsay talk to Ken Chenault, Chairman and Managing Director of General Catalyst, about how he built his reputation on shepherding American Express through some of the biggest crises of our time — and left a lasting legacy with 17 years as CEO.
Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
This episode is presented by Fidelity.
For years, cryptocurrency has been a hot topic among investors, coworkers, celebrities, and even down-the-street neighbors. But, given recent market volatility, is digital currency still a viable option? And should people of color, who’ve viewed crypto as an entry into wealth-building, continue to trust it as an investment vehicle? Lindsay talks to blockchain engineer and data scientist Tavonia Evans about the accessibility of crypto and if it still offers a path to closing the wealth gap.
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So much of America’s social safety net has been built on top of women’s unpaid labor. And while we know traditional gender roles still persist, how much have they contributed to the gender gap at work? Is it possible that to achieve true gender equity in the workplace, women must first achieve it in the home? Eve Rodsky, author and producer of the documentary “Fair Play” explores this question as she unpacks the true cost — and impact — of women bearing the household mental load.
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Note: This episode contains explicit language.
The pandemic has disrupted how we live and work — and the lines in between have never been blurrier. Is the role of the executive changing as calls for corporate activism continue to swell? Carolyn and Lindsay talk with Alan Murray, CEO of Fortune Media and author of "Tomorrow’s Capitalist: My Search for the Soul of Business", about how we got here and what leaders can do now to wade into socio-political issues — without drowning.
Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
Only one out of every 1.6 million startups is estimated to achieve unicorn status. Laela Sturdy, General Partner at CapitalG and lead investor of Chief’s Series B, talks to Carolyn and Lindsay about the defining characteristics of billion-dollar companies and what entrepreneurs and business leaders alike should consider when scaling for growth.
Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
Can niceness be the veneer that hides a toxic work culture? Are women-led businesses the most at risk? In this episode, Carolyn and Lindsay talk with Sheila Heen and Debbie Goldstein from Triad Consulting on stripping away the niceties.
Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
Season two of The New Rules of Business is coming soon! Chief Co-Founders Carolyn Childers and Lindsay Kaplan are back to dig into today’s most complicated leadership issues. They cover topics like where to spot the newest form of toxicity in the workplace, why executives should wade into uncharted socio-political waters, and how to manage through crisis (after crisis). On the podcast, they’ll be in discussion with the best business minds and academics including Cornell Professor Courtney McCluney, Ken Chenault, author Eve Rodsky, Joanna Coles, and more.
Learn the new rules of business with Chief. Season 2 coming soon.
The business world is abuzz with the promise – and potential dangers – of the metaverse. The space seems to have a high barrier for entry, requiring a confident working knowledge of the blockchain, crypto, and NFTs to even begin to dive in. But as a business leader, you can’t ignore this rapidly-growing space, nor the potential to be a savvy early adopter.
Lindsay and Carolyn speak with Janine Yorio, CEO of virtual real estate firm Republic Realm, to get a handle on what the metaverse is and why the conversation around the metaverse is unnecessarily confusing. Then, they interview Cathy Hackl, host of the Metaverse Marketing podcast and “Godmother of the Metaverse,” about balancing the ideal of decentralization with making sure the next frontier is welcoming for everybody.
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Find Janine’s work at https://republicrealm.com/.
Listen to Cathy’s podcast Metaverse Marketing wherever you like to listen.
It feels like every time we talk about multiage working relationships, the same tired themes arise: who’s better at technology, who prefers in-person work to remote, who’s biased. But that can’t be the whole picture; interage collaboration — and the two-way mentorship that comes with it — can create a thriving collaboration. Lindsay and Carolyn chat with ageism researcher and speaker Ashton Applewhite, author of This Chair Rocks: A Manifesto Against Ageism to get to the bottom of what people get wrong about matters of age. And then they’re joined by a pair of leaders whose intergenerational collaboration has been great for business: designer Diane von Furstenburg and DVF President and Chief Executive Gabby Hirata.
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Find Ashton’s work at https://thischairrocks.com.
Find Gabby on LinkedIn, and Diane’s work at https://www.dvf.com.
Humor can bring people together. But in the wrong context, it can be disastrous. So how can leaders make sure they’re using it to their advantage? Enter Jennifer Aaker and Naomi Bagdonas, Stanford Business School professors and co-authors of Humor, Seriously: Why Humor Is a Secret Weapon in Business and Life (And how anyone can harness it. Even you.) Jennifer and Naomi join Carolyn and Lindsay to break down the distinctions between levity, humor, and comedy, and the secrets to make humor the sharpest tool in your belt.
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Listen to Jennifer and Naomi’s TED Talk about the power of humor and take their humor styles quiz at humorseriously.com.
The last year has hastened the rise of the most crucial changes to the way we work: hybrid workplaces and large-scale commitments to DEI. But do DEI efforts fall short when colleagues can’t see each other in person? First, Carolyn talks with author, speaker, and DEI consultant Minda Harts for a look at what she sees as the most important learnings from lockdown — and the importance of making sure racialized employees aren’t being left behind as we return to work. Then, Frances Frei & Anne Morriss are back to highlight for Lindsay and Carolyn the places where they believe remote offices can be a boon for DEI work.
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Minda’s books, The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Do to Secure a Seat at the Table and Right Within: How to Heal from Racial Trauma in the Workplace, are available wherever books are sold.
You can find Frances & Anne on LinkedIn and Twitter, theleadersguide.com, and every Tuesday and Friday on Clubhouse.
Everyone wants to be liked. But for leaders, does pursuing likability put your authority into question? Or worse, can it sand down the edges of everything that makes you a dynamic leader? MSNBC host and author of The Likability Trap Alicia Menendez joins Lindsay and Carolyn to unpack the many-edged sword of likability, why (shocking!) it’s even more fraught for women and non-white people, and what we can do to push back against our culture’s bias.
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You can find Alicia on Instagram @aliciamenendezxo and subscribe to her podcast, Latina to Latina.
Ben & Jerry’s is almost synonymous with corporations standing for social causes. So Lindsay and Carolyn chat with founders Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield to find out how they baked their social mission into their ice cream brand. Plus, they share their best advice for co-founders navigating a long-term working relationship.
Learn more about Chief, and apply to be a member, at Chief.com. You can also follow Chief on Linkedin for more reports about the changing face of leadership.
The traditional makeup of corporate boards is under fire, and diversity mandates are coming from all sides — from Goldman Sachs to the state of California. But are these mandates enough, or is it time to change the way we think about board appointments from the ground up? Carolyn and Lindsay are joined by economist Dambisa Moyo, author of How Boards Work, who sheds light on what she thinks is the ideal board makeup for today’s ever-changing global economy. Later in the episode, Asahi Pompey, Global Head of Corporate Engagement and President of the Goldman Sachs Foundation, gives Carolyn and Lindsay insight on Goldman’s groundbreaking board diversity mandate — and how easy it should be for companies to meet that bar.
Learn more about Chief, and apply to be a member, at Chief.com. You can also follow Chief on LinkedIn for more reports about the changing face of leadership.
Follow Dambisa on all social media platforms and at dambisamoyo.com. You can follow Asahi on LinkedIn.
The ruling sentiment is to “be your authentic self” at work — but is it that simple? As a leader, how much of yourself should you bring? Can pursuing authenticity actually be a trap for women and those of marginalized identities? Lindsay and Carolyn talk with researchers Frances Frei (Professor of Harvard Business School) and Anne Morriss, co-authors of Unleashed: The Unapologetic Leader's Guide to Empowering Everyone Around You, to share how executives can create a culture of acceptance from the top. Plus, legendary business badass Cindy Gallop joins for an unfiltered conversation on what authentic leadership really looks like.
Find us on LinkedIn and if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
You can find Frances & Anne on LinkedIn and Twitter, theleadersguide.com, and every Tuesday and Friday on Clubhouse.
Find Cindy on Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, and Facebook.
How do you lead when “business as usual” has gone out the window? Enter The New Rules of Business, by Chief. Chief Co-Founders Carolyn Childers and Lindsay Kaplan tackle the nuanced questions facing executives today — alongside world-renowned business leaders and academics like Diane von Furstenberg, Cindy Gallop, Ben and Jerry, and Frances Frei.