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Just Lawful - true crime like you've never felt it before. Co-created and co-hosted by Daniel Panozzo and The Advertiser’s chief court reporter Sean Fewster.
As Sean and Daniel begin a new series it becomes apparent very quickly there are many elements that need to be understood, from cultural to legal, moral and ethical.
This one has them treading delicately as they navigate orders of suppression arising from an alleged “honour stabbing”, leaving them with more questions than answers.
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The JL boys conclude their interview series with Grant Dansie as he laments a mother’s legacy, ongoing court complexities, and the hope of there finally being closure in sight.
Despite a spiteful, murderous father who continues to cause pain from beyond the grave, Grant’s story is one of strength and vulnerability in the face of trauma and adversity.
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As Sean and Daniel continue their interview with Grant Dansie he discusses his fraught relationship with his estranged father and the first time facing him after years apart.
More revelations and realisations also come to light as we hear of a family’s frustration of watching as a controlling bully manipulated systems to avoid facing any accountability.
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The JL boys go beyond the story you think you already know as they delve into the backstory of an early family life that would foreshadow tragic and fatal future events.
This is the first part of the candid and compelling interview with Grant Dansie, a man whose unique experience provides insights, intrigue, anger and anguish.
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Sean and Daniel bring us an update and some closure to a case that’s been more than a decade in the making with multiple trials, appeals, and civil proceedings.
Finally, the Lawrence family get clarity on the fate of David's estate after the courts navigate the nuances of forfeiture law, counter claims and David’s own intentions.
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The JL boys conclude a case that has driven more passionate feedback than almost any other, both in support and even more vocally in complete condemnation.
While old saying says “a picture tells a thousand words”, it seems even when the footage is made available many opinions are split and many attitudes remain divided.
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Sean and Daniel continue to discuss the emotionally charged case that sparked debate about anti-authoritarianism, danger in the line of duty and adequate sentencing.
As the guilty would decry the judge’s verdict the wider question that remained was what would this mean for similar, future cases, and how will it impact the community?
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The JL boys move from discussing incident to indictment and the progression of court proceedings as Raina Jane Cruise faces the charges and the controversy
As both sides provide evidence for their version of the events it becomes positioned as an argument between policing protocol and the rights of individuals to resist arrest.
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Sean and Daniel kick off one of their most requested cases and almost immediately it’s obvious as to why this one sparked interest, ire and intrigue within the wider community.
As a federal Senate candidate claims self defense when charged with assault on a police officer in a pub altercation it quickly becomes a case of who exactly crossed the line.
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The JL boys conclude the case of a former cop, her string of crimes and corruption, a cringe worthy rap career and comparatively a very cushy ride through the court system.
This wouldn’t be the last we would hear of Hayley Greenwood however as a new set of charges would have us considering if this was a new twist or a return to her old ways.
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As Sean and Daniel continue their coverage of this case it becomes the subtraction of identity suppression that now becomes the next consideration in their conversation.
Between that and a disappearance from court listings, separation of charges across different jurisdictions, closed door hearings and dealings we’re left asking, what’s next?
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The JL boys move beyond musical stylings to return their focus to the courtroom and the alleged offenses of a suspended police officer as a major twist was about to unfold.
With new allegations of sex work, what can be reported without prejudicing a trial and the need to protect confidential sources this case still appeared far from its conclusion.
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So Sean and Daniel didn’t exactly deliver on a promise of a musical interlude on their last episode however they make good this time around with a personal protest “diss track”.
While it may not have been their song, they do discuss the lyrics and potential impact of the artist going public after initially fighting for a suppression over court proceedings.
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The JL boys promised us a musical interlude in this new series and instead they give us a case which raises questions about police accountability and community expectations.
As they dig deeper, they uncover a web of criminal allegations, a notorious outlaw motorcycle gang, confidential informants, and yes eventually even a musical interlude.
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Sean and Daniel conclude the complex case of the convicted child sex offender who created a charity without the decision to disclose his own past criminal convictions.
Ego exceeds ethics while the exploitation of others exists and more importance is placed in redeeming an undeserving reputation than the pursuit of possible rehabilitation.
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The JL boys are advised of the less than transparent activities of a former offender previously covered for their involvement and conviction in a child abuse material case.
When they claim lived experience makes them credentialed to assist those with autism navigate the legal system it is their accountability that is up for adjudication.
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As Sean and Daniel look to conclude their investigation they consider the implications of AI use by lawyers without disclosure, AI-generated errors and lack of transparency.
With an outgoing leader, a need for legacy from “late to the party” guidelines and legal lessons seemingly not learned from across the lands, SA’s AI future remains unknown.
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The JL boys dive back into the world of AI and the legal system as South Australia faces its first instance of a lawyer accused of using AI which had cited fake precedent.
With implications on the administration of justice the conversation then shifts to the consequences of AI-generated errors and the need for guidelines and accountability.
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Sean and Daniel query the future as South Australia is poised for new leadership within its courts and an even larger change looms over how our courts may operate altogether.
While AI is supposed to be providing more insight and clarity it appears it may only be succeeding in blurring the lines and the possible white lies between fact and fiction.
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The JL Boys conclude this unprecedented case where the complexities of the justice system almost pail against the backdrop of a vile, petty, vindictive father and killer.
They discuss the application or maybe the manipulation of the law, the price of justice and also question the fairness of the system to ultimately ponder the verdict on this case.
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Sean and Daniel have long decried the retraumatisation of victims and their loved ones especially when it is the system that states to protect them being the perpetrator.
The death of Helen Dansie is a prime example of this fact and this episode shows how correct procedure as well as time deaf departmental interference exacerbate this.
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The JL boys contemplate the consequences of the DPP's sudden intervention in the civil case, questioning the idea of "proceeds of crime" and the motivations of their actions.
They continue to explore the intricacies of the case, criminal assets confiscation and the potential consequences for a son fighting for control of his mother's estate.
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Sean and Daniel return with season six and pick up the murder case of Helen Dansie to contemplate the implications that a criminal case appeal now poses for the civil case.
With concerns now looming over both an estate and a family's pursuit of justice the High Court that is now required to make a decision on when and how we can proceed.
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The JL Boys are back with their annual holiday season helping of reviewing the year that was, deliberating what's been done and evaluating the events we experienced here in South Australia.
They've made their list, then checked it about a dozen times just to make sure they can actually tell the tales, celebrate the champions and ridicule the ridiculousness that affected us all this year.
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Sean and Daniel take a moment to exhale as a guilty verdict is returned and a family break their silence with courthouse steps comments and victim impact statements.
However, as an eleventh-hour appeal and suppressed civil lawsuit come to light, it is now apparent that a prison sentence and a deceased estate both hang in uncertainty.
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The JL boys discuss suppressed evidence about multiple secret online relationships with Chinese where the premise of pleasure would come before a promise of marriage.
Before a judge would rule of a deliberate act to push a wheelchair-bound wife into a pond with the specific intention to kill her - not the apparent accident the defense would claim.
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Sean and Daniel dissect the fallout of this mistrial, from an approximate $325,000 in taxpayer money wasted to an immeasurable emotional toll on victims and their families.
We also hear crucial evidence potentially providing the prosecution with a powerful motive and the bizarre connection between condoms, vibrators, lingerie and China.
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The JL boys examine the unprecedented scenario of what happens when the very person tasked with ensuring justice becomes the very reason a trial capitulates
From undeserved public dressing downs to an ironic example of pride coming before a fall we witness the mutual agreement for a mistrial from misspoken misunderstandings.
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Sean and Daniel step outside the courtroom and behind the scenes to discuss the details of moving an entire courtroom to a crime scene and in this case when they go awry.
From police shutting down an entire beach, keeping defendants and juries separated to the unexpected complications and security concerns arising when justice goes mobile.
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The JL boys hear the testimony from Helen’s son, Grant of how the care and access to a brilliant microbiologist with "genius-level intellect" was a father’s cruel act of control.
We also hear revelations of cruel intentions, a secret conversation recorded wearing “a wire”, the court attending the scene of the crime and a mishap no one saw coming.
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Sean and Daniel continue to delve into this disturbing case as defense opts for a judge-alone trial rather than face a jury, while also frantically searching for an expert witness.
And as the prosecution attempts to paint a picture of a calculated killing, the judge involved makes the unusual ruling to hear all evidence before determining admissibility.
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The JL boys quickly realise what initially appeared to be a tragic accident involving a husband and wife has now transformed into something seemingly far more sinister.
As murder charges are filed, troubling questions emerge about the relationship, Helen’s final moments, and the suspicious circumstances surrounding this death.
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Sean and Daniel commence a new series that has them examining the vulnerability of those who depend on others for care, and how easily that trust can be exploited.
When Helen Dansie drowned in an apparent tragic accident questions began to surface and an investigation would intensify to understand how and why this could occur.
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The JL boys continue their coverage of a fascinating international legal battle over an alleged $50 million estate that pits an Australian widow against a Chinese mother.
In a case that crossed continents and legal systems it would ultimately hinge on the concept of true domicile - not just where one lives, but where one’s life is centered.
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Sean and Daniel conclude a $30 million Balinese estate case as it ultimately settles out of court despite questions of citizenship, international law, and family ongoing drama.
The focus then switches to another, even larger estate, again with international ties, competing familial interests and yet another set of complex legal conundrums at its core.
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The JL boys continue their coverage of the international inheritance dispute of a former surf gang member the decision is made to adjudicate this case in an Australian court.
But as a mother and ex-partner battle over an estate, a judge takes issue with intent as allegations of fake divorces, invalid wills, and undisclosed children would emerge.
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Sean and Daniel go beyond domestic borders as a former surf gang member dies leaving an international inheritance that becomes an international legal dilemma.
Amid claims of a fake will two mothers insist they're acting in their child's best interest while the initial question of which country’s legal system takes precedence is debated.
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The JL boys investigate what happens when someone leaves no will, or maybe they did depending on what a court constitutes an acceptable medium for sorting their means.
And despite painful circumstances of both losing the same loved one two women reach a compromise, find common ground and avoid a continued courtroom confrontation.
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Sean and Daniel kick off a brand new series investigating a family feud over a contested will, an inheritance of seemingly biblical proportions and even allegations of murder.
Then, after all the complex legal issues and arguments of blasphemous commentary end this family saga would reoccur 13 years later as another multi-million dollar battle begins.
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The JL boys continue their interview with Phillip Lawrence and it’s fair to say this one proves just as fascinating as we hear a first hand perspective of the Lawrence family.
As more revelations are revealed we hear of the care and concern from our wider community and a final revelation from our listeners that even Phillip didn’t see coming.
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When Sean and Daniel covered the death of David Lawrence they thought they’d heard all there was to know about this case. That was until they interviewed Phillip Lawrence.
In this episode we start to understand the difference between what’s heard in court and the lived experience endured by those who have been forced to face the fallout.
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Here the JL boys go again!!! One episode just wasn’t enough for them to capture all of the memories, moments, updates and events they’ve encountered in 100 episodes.
This time around they talk waning book sales before we hear from prior guests to share their thoughts and thanks for their experience as well as notes on life since JL.
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Yayyyy!!!! It’s a celebration as Sean and Daniel pause, take a moment and celebrate their….. 203rd episode? Well they figured it’s better that than interrupt their last series.
Join them as they reflect, reminisce and remonstrate over recent goings on. The only real question is, will they be able to get it all done in a single celebration episode?
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As the JL boys get set to let out a collective sigh of relief there’s a little more concern, commentary and conjecture that they need to cover before they lay their own capstone.
This is the episode where we reexamine, reassess and attempt to reconcile all that we’ve heard as we collectively contemplate if we’ve reached a Just or Lawful conclusion.
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Sean and Daniel begin the episode with a criminal case concluded, a civil case set to resume and the Lawrence family finally being offered a sense of closure and justice.
However it would instead be more legal wrangling and procedural posturing proving there was still a twist to come including a bizarre demand from the defence counsel.
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The JL boys do their best to reconcile with the ongoing revelations and reckonings that simply keep coming as a filed appeal is dismissed and leave the boys dismayed.
As more information was made available in real-time about situations that occurred in the past, time would seemingly stand still as the end, yet again, may still not be in sight.
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Sean and Daniel continue their coverage of this case by commencing with their own culinary critique to explain recent courtroom antics, tactics, oversights and rhetorics.
They then discuss the intricate details of the appeals process, when to grant or deny one and the implications to trial proceedings, media coverage and the impacts to victims.
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As the JL boys continue to make friends and earn detractors within the judiciary and the legal community with their commentary of the “process”, the case at hand continues.
And now it would be the turn of those left behind to tell their side of the damage done by the tragic and selfish actions of “The Prisoner” that took the life of their loved one.
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Sean and Daniel continue their coverage of this case however before beginning they bring to the fore the ongoing battle of their own biases and belief in tendered evidence.
Beyond challenged bias it is previously unheard information that challenges them to further ponder the prospect of how this may have impacted the outcome of this case.
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The JL boys move from initial investigations to intriguing interpretations of information through to institutional interruptions as this anticipated court case has barely begun.
In a short period we would hear details of an alleged kill, questions over a suspect will, a potential dispute for dollar bills and an incorrect administering of prescription pills.
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Sean and Daniel have the initial brief of this frustratingly fascinating case and while we seem to have the basic outline of the events it seems we are far from all the details.
As allegations were laid what followed would be nothing short of a confusing exercise and examination into explanations, excuses and exceptionally exaggerated contradictions.
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The JL boys kick off a new series and we quickly learn that this will be one of the most intriguing, frustrating and devastatingly sad cases they have covered in a long time.
And although it is said time heals all wounds this one will test how this theory is possible with no resolution, no opportunity and no time for the healing process to even begin.
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Sean and Daniel conclude their coverage of the curious case of corrupted condiments as courtroom process unfolds and common sense seemingly prevails with the outcome.
However consideration would continue as a civil case commences and the principle concerns connecting religion, righteousness and right and wrong are contemplated.
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The JL boys continue their coverage of a story that continues to create questions s and cause them to consider the crossover between congregation and consequences.
In this episode they add the one element that was missing in all this, the names. As circumstances continue to unfold we learn about the who that is impacted by the what.
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Sean and Daniel kick off a new series with a case that quickly reveals far more than first appears, proving it tough to swallow and ultimately leaving a bad taste in our mouth.
Between religion, righteousness, redemption and retaliation we’re challenged to consider our relationship with community, connection and the consequences of our actions.
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The JL boys conclude their series on arson where the ecosystem of court proceedings seems to be just as volatile as the weather system caused by the arson attack itself.
And while exceptions and excuses wouldn’t disguise the guilt in this case, it appears despite 20 years and changes in law, the penalty doesn’t differ from where we began.
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Sean and Daniel attempt to understand the extenuating elements and the confusing circumstances of conflicting timelines and alleged activity resulting in criminal charges.
As arguments over evidence are anticipated and defense counsel’s involvement becomes inconsistent our story and indeed the case itself feels it is unravelling before our eyes.
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After the JL boys considered if “bats in the belfry” reside in a church or within the misguided mind of an offender they move to a more modern example of an act of arson.
And the devastating effects are only rivaled by the offenders account of his actions even before we consider the questionable counter punching that occurred in the courtroom.
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Sean and Daniel spend as much time scratching their heads as they do shaking them as the initial details of both a suspect and their suspicious activity are revealed.
Perhaps most perplexing are the previous similarities coming to the surface, betrayal of the countryside, the community and even down to the choice of combustible catalyst.
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The JL boys cover, commentate on and consider the outcome of this first case along with the penalty applied as this would set a precedent for similar crimes still to come.
And it’s a good thing they did as similar crimes come quickly when their next case has unique circumstances and explanations leaving us thinking “liar, liar, pants on fire”.
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Sean and Daniel return to the Adelaide countryside and a community in crisis, considering why would their town be the target of repeated attempted arson attacks.
Amongst this ongoing threat to peace, person and property it seemingly becomes worse by the unfolding realisation it is highly possible the threat was coming from within.
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After the JL boys previously turned up the heat they now turn their attention to a crime that is probably not the first you think of when we talk about lengthy punishments.
This starts out with a slow burn before the full force of potential devastation is realised yet it is the alleged perpetrator that really gets the community hot under the collar.
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Sean and Daniel have never shied away from shining the spotlight onto those in positions of power, the ones supposed to administer and operate our establishments.
This time around they pull no punches and leave nothing to the imagination as they unpack the data and the details of the deeds done by number of those within our judiciary.
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The JL boys have long been fascinated with the timing of their topics and the topical nature of our turbulent times and this is one such time where indeed timing is everything.
As if discussing the volume of crimes in our community isn’t enough, they dissect the details of what occurs within establishments expected to represent and adjudicate us all.
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Sean and Daniel continue their attempt to answer the question of “is getting crazier out there” as they rummage through reports to decipher the details….. that are available.
But bringing reason to the unreasonable seems as difficult as sourcing, sorting and being outspoken as to why department overviews are no more worthy than being overlooked.
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The JL boys now shift their attention to focus, or maybe we should say take aim, on the facts and figures on both the legal and criminal justice space in South Australia.
While Adelaide’s summer heats up outside it’s the JL temperature check inside of these establishments that poses questions and may just leave some a little hot under the collar.
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Sean and Daniel finally attempt to conclude this series, and a case that has proven to be one of the most complex web of lies, denial, blame, depravity and horrific crimes to date.
However, like so many others, before its finale this case would take one more major twist as the final member of the syndicate is revealed. Well, sort of. Maybe? Possibly?
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The JL boys kick off season 5 and after all they’ve covered so far with the horrific crimes woven within a web of lies, deceit and horrific offending, we at the end, right?
Wouldn’t it be nice if that were the case? As we’ve seen before however, rarely do these situations resolve themselves without more twists and turns. And this one is no different.
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Happy Merrinium to all!! It's that time of the year again when the JL boys bring the stuffing for our state's stockings as they reflect on the year that was, folks that faulted and those who provide presents worthy of praise through their professional performances.
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Sean and Daniel have covered this case in totality, heard all the lies, deceptions, offending and betrayals leaving us with only the penalties outstanding or so we thought.
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Betrayal is nothing new to the JL boys and the cases they cover however the layers in this one run deep and sees betrayal beyond victims as even a perpetrator gets betrayed.
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Sean and Daniel conclude one case with a questionable sentence which also leads to opening a perverted Pandora’s box that reveals yet more members of the syndicate.
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The JL boys continue to dissect and reject a plethora of excuses used to explain away an involvement within a depraved web and how they led to even more syndicate members.
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Sean and Daniel discover how when the net closed in on the spider the web expanded to expose the newest member dwelling within the depths of this syndicated depravity
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The JL boys again bring us the reality of crime as victim impact statements of a vile offender precede a psychological report stating this monster was only about to get worse.
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Sean and Daniel return with the conclusion of one of the worst of the worst. However this is only the tip of the iceberg and the beginning of a new web of lies and tragedy.
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The JL boys are almost back, until then they are showing some gratitude to those who truly make the show, real stories from real people demonstrating the reality of crime.
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While Sean and Daniel continue their inter- continental cultural expedition they bring us some soapbox moments that got them hot enough to stand up, speak out and set a few folks straight.
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It’s true!! The JL boys are away and on holiday overseas. However, they were kind enough to leave us a little something to listen to and reminisce on until they return.
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As Sean and Daniel conclude this series and discuss the final fall out for all concerned in this fall from grace the question remains if there is a road to redemption after such a fall.
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The JL boys wade through the twisting and turning of mistruths and misappropriation as circumstances surface clarifying the why and how of each accused’s involvement.
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As the facade starts to fade Sean and Daniel begin to uncover the real Bob Harrop and the lengths and depths of his abuse of power and privilege for personal gain.
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The JL boys start to unpack the details of how a respected and revered member of the bench faces charges instead of presiding over proceedings now that the tables have turned.
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While Sean and Daniel start out with mere facts and figures it doesn’t take long before the underlying issues between authority and accountability once again rears its head.
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In this episode the JL boys conclude their raw and enlightening interview with Graham and Lauren Ralph as they discuss deterrents, discontent and judicial disconnect.
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The JL boys recap the Road to Justice but before they can they are faced with yet more inconsistency and inadequacy while challenging the equity of this into the future.
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Sean and Daniel seek for some semblance of sanity between senselessness and insensitivity as they again deal with another moral speed hump on the Road to Justice.
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The JL boys discuss how a shocking driving history both predicts and repeats while facts and forensics are used to blame a driver killed in a fatal collision for his own death.
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Sean and Daniel bring a case where lives of children are lost, a legacy is severed and questions will always remain as no answers were given as to how this tragedy occurred.
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The JL boys Are left with more questions than answers as history and precedence collide in a case where blatant intent to harm turns into a tragedy for the innocent.
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Sean and Daniel bring us a devastating case where reckless decisions take a life and questionable legal application sees one family seemingly lose it all time and again.
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As the JL boys round the bend and onto the Road to Justice there appears to be light, however their first tragic example of this shows we still have such a long road to hoe.
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Sean and Daniel deliver the account of the reckless and irresponsible act that became a precedent, a political provocation and breeds questionable legal justification to this day.
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As the JL boys kick off a new series on one of their mostly hotly debated topics they start by exploring why receiving all you are due by law is often misconstrued as special treatment.
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Sean and Daniel explore what happens when a lotus, a science fiction character and an entrepreneur combine to rebel and request that “may the force be reasonable with you”.
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The last one was a twist, now the JL boys return with a case that is simply twisted. In an example of abusing our trust in authority this one would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious.
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Sean and Daniel bring us a twist on the concept of hiding who you really are, and this time there isn’t even a misguided attempt at doing good, this one’s all about self interest.
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In this episode the JL boys discuss, debate and ultimately dictate their thoughts about the fine line that exists between the right, the wrong, the right way and the mistakenly righteous.
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After one of their most powerful episodes Sean and Daniel return with Brother B, to hear more of the impacts, intent and institutional change the Masked Brothers have endured and inspired.
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The JL boys offer us a precaution, this episode is raw, honest and bound to affect all who listen as they bring us an unexpected privilege, this is the man known as B in his own words.
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In this episode Sean and Daniel conclude their coverage of the Masked Brothers reflecting upon causes, their effect and the impact these two men have made far beyond themselves.
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The JL boys find themselves in a rollercoaster episode where vindication, vulnerability, validation and villainy embrace serendipity for a moment of pure humanity and empathy.
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As the Masked Brothers series continues Sean and Daniel discuss how an impulsive masked statement would now spawn a more strategic demonstration known as the Monsters Walk.
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The JL boys explore the moment an individual display of reclaiming personal power and agency would become the face of advocacy for so many, the birth of The Masked Brothers.
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Sean and Daniel begin their next series which promises to be one of the most meaningful in shaping our laws, events past and present and even the formation of the Just Lawful Podcast.
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The JL boys round out Covidiums as strange times would facilitate the strong ideals of anti-vaccination, a proposed government coup and sovereign citizenship to rise and intertwine.
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It’s round 2 of Covidiums and this time the JL boys bring us an example that involves isolation, fast food delivery, secret exotic sex enhancing substances and….. Sean singing?
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As the JL boys force new vernacular upon us they are faced with a situation where while the criminal act cannot be ignored, does its impetus offer some form of explanation?
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This episode has it all. Twists, turns, loose ends tied up. New charges, convictions and challenges. Sean and Daniel find even the idea of Just and Lawful is a struggle in this one.
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The JL boys continue trying to separate fact from fallacy as this two-sided tale continues and differing versions of this young man’s mindset simply reposes the question, victim or villain?
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Even with a verdict delivered Sean and Daniel find there is still so much to be understood about this case including finally discovering the cause of the first trial that never existed.
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The JL boys are back and pick up where they left off with revelations of an internet search history that offers a unique insight into Wei Li’s actions in the days after his mother’s death.
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Sean and Daniel walk us through one of their most intriguing episodes ever as the accused takes the stand and while providing many answers they spawned only more questions.
Differing accounts and contradicting reasons offered would cause JL boys to question all they thought knew so far and with yet another twist we seem still no closer to a resolution.
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As the JL boys start out this episode it seems to be a case “show and no tell” as we are teased with the set up and no reveal about why the first trial in this case never existed.
It isn’t long before Sean and Daniel do get answers though as they unpack details of the trial and the incident, and continuely challenge our thinking from one moment to next.
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The JL boys start out this episode at a frenetic pace which appears to mirror the state of the newsroom as the news broke that Wei Li had been located and arrested at Sydney airport.
And while Sean and Daniel begin to receive responses to so many unanswered questions these are then paralleled by the need for even more answers as even more questions arise.
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Sean and Daniel commence peeling back the first layers of this case via cultural sensitivities, constricted channels of communication and the ability to be concealed in foreign countries.
The JL boys once again challenge the thinking and potential bias of us all and the general populous of the time as well worn stereotypes play out in parallel of the telling of this tragedy.
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The JL boys begin their next series and before we even get into the case itself it becomes apparent that this one is going to be a challenge of our thinking and potential bias.
As Sean and Daniel begin we soon discover that an alleged murder is like a metaphorical pebble dropped into a pond where each ripple soon uncovers many more layers of intrigue.
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Sean puts Daniels and our listeners through their paces as it’s time for part two of our assessment and even if we achieved a part one pass mark how will we fare this time?
The JL boys continue to unpack this intriguing case where once you scratch the surface it continues to produce for more circumstance for consideration than appears at first glance.
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It’s assessment time as the JL boys take us all to school and test our knowledge, recollection and comprehension of all they covered and all we learned in the previous episodes about bail.
Sean asks the questions as Daniel does his best impersonation of a magistrate using a real bail application to test our understanding and provide twists and turns all of its own.
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In this episode Sean and Daniel discuss the harsh reality of how bail has affected our community, it’s recent history and the tragic impacts in a real life example of heartbreak.
The JL boys now deconstruct a “third layer” of circumstances, beyond innocent until proven guilty and taking a prosecution case at its highest, which preclude some to qualify for bail.
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As the JL boys continue to investigate and unpack all of the considerations involved in deciding if an alleged offender receives bail it doesn’t seem to be getting any simpler.
Sean discusses the feedback he has received that his previous comments have elicited as Daniel tries to comprehend the theoretical and practical elements of a paradox known as bail.
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Sean and Daniel tackle their next subject as they once again do their very best to unpack, educate on and demystify all of the elements, this time as they tackle the concept of bail
The JL boys examine all of the factors that make up something many of have heard of, yet likely don’t really know, including implications, iterations, regulations and considerations.
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The JL boys find themselves trying to prise fact from fiction as a history of friction is uncovered in this ongoing tale of sloshed drinks, turtlenecks and Harry Potter scars.
Sean and Daniel find an elevated level of levity in between navigating differing accounts of events, interstate restrictions and one witness always having a story, no matter the question.
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The JL boys finally give us all an opportunity to exhale as they slide into a long needed palette cleanser and while the boys are a little more lighthearted this one is still no laughing matter.
Between politics alignments and proposed allegations Sean and Daniel attempt yo unpick this tale where the circumstances certainly appear to be beneath civility and societal class.
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As the inspiring and informative conversation concludes between the JL boys and Steve and Jordan from JACET the mood shifts from pursuing offenders to protecting children in the future.
Both Sean and Daniel speak of their gratitude to share this conversation with the listeners before recapping all they’ve learned, a few surprises along the way and then what’s next.
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In this episode the JL boys bring us the first part of the first ever audio interview with the members of JACET as part of their promotion of the start of National Child Protection Week.
Sean and Daniel begin to learn about what it takes to do this work and they have their understanding on the focus of the role shifted from arresting offenders to rescuing victims.
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In this episode the JL boys wrestle with the concept of how is that the best truly equals the worst while reminding us that for every number discussed is also a victim who has been hurt.
Sean and Daniel reveal the 4th and final face to take its rightful place upon Mt Disgustmore and while each previous face set and broke records this one sets to surpass them all.
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As the JL boys begin to carve out the 2nd and 3rd faces of Mt Disgustmore we see how the extent of these crimes challenge how both law enforcement and the legal system responds.
While the depravity of this criminal behaviour creates unease for our community Sean and Daniel also provide a raw insight into the effects these cases have on them personally.
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In this new series Sean and Daniel make good on an idea they promised us since the end of last year. That’s where the good ends however as they highlight the worst of the worst.
The JL boys begin carving out the first face of foul depravity that has broken records and proven for all the good our city has to offer we are living in the shadow of Mt. Disgustmore.
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As Sean and Daniel begin the conclusion of one of their most in-depth series it leads off with some of the most direct and decisive Judge’s comments they have encountered.
The heat doesn’t cool down as the JL boys unpack all of the fallout and determine that John Fleming ultimately placed himself in a position of “checkmate” all of his own making.
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As the defense witnesses take the stand the JL boys quickly begin to comprehend the overall complexity of the contradictions, context and considerations from the tales being tendered.
Sean and Daniel discuss the gaps and the inconsistencies of the stories being presented and unpack the importance of the specifics around terminology, perspective and morality.
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In this episode the JL boys find themselves examining and evaluating the opening salvo of evidence from John Fleming when he takes the stand as the defamation case now begins.
As Sean and Daniel begin that process they also discuss Nigel’s last couple of articles and ponder the idea of not being held accountable for your actions in a previous employment.
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In this episode the JL boys encounter the fallout of when the "Embattled Strikes Back" and the continuing impacts of John Fleming’s defamation case against the Sunday Mail.
Sean and Daniel realise however there is even more to comprehend, from the balance of probabilities, complainants providing more information and even courtroom calisthenics.
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In this episode we see progress made as perspectives are considered and the JL boys discuss the consequences and responses of from previously published news articles.
From college to Catholicism, assertions to investigations, a vexing disposition to a Vatican excursion, Sean and Daniel do their best as their bias is continually put to the test.
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The JL boys start to unpack the details of “Richard’s” assertions, the response from the clergy as well as a received response from John Fleming, well kind of, eventually, sort of.
Sean and Daniel then also discuss their red string theories, newsroom divides and ongoing investigations leaving The Advertiser to play catch up to the reporting of The Sunday Mail.
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While the JL boys continue to expand our vocabulary with terms such as complainants, assertions and the Consensus Gentium, this is merely the beginning of what we would learn.
Sean and Daniel discover that the simplicity of telling your story becomes extremely complex when forced to navigate the unknown and jump through the hoops of hidden protocols.
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With biases and opinions clearly established the JL boys now begin dissecting all of the elements of their next series. And oh boy are there many pieces to constructing this puzzle.
It’s information time again as Sean and Daniel introduce us to new vocabulary, another form of journalism, more suppression orders and this all merely the tip of the iceberg to come.
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Celebration time is over as Sean and Daniel jump straight into their next series and there is no backward step as they tackle one of those taboo topics you just don’t discuss, religion.
In this unique and intriguing episode we hear the background, beliefs and biases of the JL boys and how they were shaped by their own religious experience, exposure and education.
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It’s a special event celebration as Sean and Daniel take a moment to recognise the achievement of reaching their 100th episode before providing some updates and reviews.
The JL boys cover some highlights, lowlights, insights make some wrongs right as they update us on some of the happenings in some of the biggest cases they’ve covered so far.
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Sean and Daniel offer their own perceptions and opinions of our current social climate and how the media and law intersects with fame, bananas, barbells and the public at large.
As this investigation into the she said/she said world of how social media has become the tools of the trade the JL boys do their best to separate this from the tools within this trade.
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Sean and Daniel delve into the world of social media, online influencing and what happens when civil litigation is launched between two lifestyle advocates with very different opinions.
From bananas to barbells, fitness empires to fruit fanatics all the way through to diets and defamation the JL boys investigate all the elements of this modern day muckraking.
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As far as conclusions go the most the JL boys can say in this case is that they have reached one. It would not, however, come before more final twists, turns and shocking revelations.
Sean and Daniel recap this series in its entirety and struggle to comprehend if this outcome was just, lawful and ultimately if up to them, could they convict on the evidence tendered.
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As Sean and Daniel thought they were nearing the end of this case many more words would need to be spoken and fall in line before understanding how to construct this sentence.
The JL boys encounter a challenge answered, a plea for future leniency while courtroom mathematics equals 60 years and DNA makes a return before a surprise suspect is introduced.
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As this case continues Sean and Daniel begin the episode with the concept of finally reaching a conclusion and breaking down the complex process of returning a verdict.
The JL boys quickly learn how much there is to consider in getting to this verdict. And even after receiving this judgement there are still more twists and turns before we would have a conclusion.
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After determining if this would become a Section 269 case it seems Sean and Daniel are once again left unpicking the delicate strands of DNA and it’s importance to this trial.
The JL boys then set about unpacking the closing statements of both counsels, however before receiving a verdict the judge would issue one more challenge to the accused.
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In this episode the JL boys pause to consider all they have covered in this case so far and it’s effect on their thoughts around guilt, innocence, process and reasonable doubt.
Sean and Daniel also attempt to clarify concerns around the use of DNA only to be presented with a change in legal team before being confronted with a potential Section 269 case.
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Sean and Daniel have felt elements of doubt creep into this case however one part that made sense and remained intact was the DNA evidence. Now even that could be in doubt.
In this episode the JL boys reveal information that has only just come to light since this series began which both offers context and poses more potential doubt over this case.
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Sean and Daniel do their best to keep this case on track as they attempt to reconcile how is it that a defecating budgie and Nigerian cult leader have become part of this trial process.
In this episode the JL boys also get an answer to a defense request for a 6 month adjournment and $250,000 while they then scrutinise the questionable credibility of witness confessions.
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From the tragic abduction from a bedroom to the tactical jousting of the courtroom the JL boys work their way through the back and forth of the prosecution and defense cases.
Sean and Daniel then discuss an acquittal not equaling innocence, a fascinating recreation of the event itself and finally a testimony that defies both comprehension and compassion.
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When you get to the trial process you expect it to be a fairly routine set of events, however the JL boys would find out when 6 weeks turns into 10 months it’s anything other than routine.
Sean and Daniel now begin to realise that to understand what ‘one in a billion’ means there is so much more that needs to be examined and explored before that can be explained.
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Last episode we heard how a cold case and childhood folk-lore had set the psyche of the hometown of the JL boys and how their adult world be introduced to a real life Boogeyman.
Now Sean and Daniel move into uncovering the identity of the Boogeyman with a history and pattern of behaviour that seems to show a probability of guilt no less than one in a billion.
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The JL boys have always said they only cover cases that span Sean’s career as a journalist, then how is it that a 32 year old cold case has become the focus of their next investigation?
In the first episode of this series Sean and Daniel take us back to a time when a real life nightmare was their childhood folk-lore and how this would become part of their modern day.
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While Adelaide may not officially be “their” town just yet, there is no question to the impact and effect the JL boys have created in their hometown with their first two seasons.
Sean and Daniel are back for 2023 to discuss what they’ve been up to over the holiday period, keeping those in power on their toes and to update us on their plans for the future.
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Wait, there isn't supposed to be any more episodes this season. What do you mean Sean and Daniel snuck back into the studio and recorded a very special end of year episode?
Join the JL boys as they review the year that was, both on the show and in the community at large and give their opinions on exactly who has been naughty and nice in 2022.
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After the last couple of episodes where Sean and Daniel cover the updated details of the Hillier Triple murders they are rejoined by Steve Egberts to discuss his firsthand experiences.
Steve sits down with the JL boys and shares his feelings, frustrations, confusion, and criticism of recent events as well as his concerns for a future that hasn't learned from its past.
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After the crest of the wave comes the fall. Sean and Daniel discuss how those closest to the Hillier tragedy would feel this fall as justification is excoriated in mere moments.
The JL boys cover a coroner’s findings, a press conference, a response from the DCP and an independent enquiry resulting in nothing more than frustration, confusion and dismay.
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When Sean and Daniel first took us to Hillier they discussed one of their most disturbing cases. Now they return to update us on what’s happened in the aftermath of this tragedy.
From a coronial enquiry and an independent review, the JL boys discover what did and did not occur as well as where does responsibility ultimately lie for the mistakes that were made.
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Once the trial process concludes, reporting the facts about the facets of a case should be common place. As Sean and Daniel would find however, this one was not exactly common.
With a number of wrinkles still to be ironed out, the JL boys navigate insinuations, incidents and injunctions as they discuss how others attempted to stop rest of this story being told.
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While a picture may tell a thousand words, Sean and Daniel consider how much of a picture can be painted from the words of the real-time recording of the incident at hand.
In this episode as the prosecution case is presented the JL boys quickly realise that neither side is willing to recognise the others’ story as proven, plausible or even palatable.
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As this next series begins it becomes apparent that Sean and Daniel aren’t quite sure about this case. While the facts are all there it’s more a question of how did it get to this point at all?
This episode sees the beginning of what would become a power struggle that has the JL boys calling out their own biases while attempting to remain objective as the accusations fly.
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From American football and cartoons to our courtrooms and changing penalties, Sean and Daniel certainly run the gamut as they tackle the topics you wanted to know about.
This episode sees the JL boys intrigued, amused, challenged and impressed by the questions you posed and share their thoughts on everything that captured your curiosity.
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Often Sean and Daniel find themselves trying to make sense of our legal landscape and pondering if the laws of our past are still adequate to deal with the crimes of today.
In this episode the JL boys highlight examples of existing laws being applied with consideration and foresight to ensure they indeed meet the requirements of the modern day.
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When an accused opts for a jury trial they accept the verdict delivered will determine their fate. Sean and Daniel, however, look at when the right process somehow gets it wrong.
The JL boys explore the power of the judicial system as even when an apparent mistake is challenged by a higher authority it is ultimately adjudicated as being correctly incorrect.
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Pirjo Kemppainen never deserved the last horrific moments of her life. Sean and Daniel contemplate if she has received the justice she deserved from the trials of A and B.
The JL boys are then left grappling with ongoing community impacts including guaranteed anonymity for both accused and even the looming possibility of freedom for B.
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While courtroom conjecture is nothing new, the Pirjo Kemppainen trial would have Sean and Daniel discussing the process and procedure as much as the evidence and judicial equity.
The JL boys provide a firsthand account from inside the courtroom as the back and forth of this debate may ultimately decide the fate of the second teenager accused of this crime.
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With a case that proves to be beyond almost anything covered so far, this one comes with a content warning as Sean and Daniel attempt to understand the how and why of the Pirjo Kemppainen murder.
Listen in as the JL boys take you inside the courtroom where prosecution advises that the entirety of their case relies on the evidence of a disturbing, convicted teenage murderer.
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Sean and Daniel previously outlined the tragic backdrop of this case and as troubling as that was to comprehend the complexity of seeking justice for this crime had only just begun.
With one guilty plea already gained it is now a baffling back and forth of sentence lengths, charges and court proceedings that have the JL boys with more questions than answers.
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Throughout this series Sean and Daniel have contemplated how our legal system handles those considered a “minor” that have committed the most “major” of crimes.
Tonight the JL boys start to unpack an example of the most major of crimes, committed by a minor described by Sean as the most disturbing offender he’d ever encountered.
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While you apparently can’t judge a book by its cover Sean and Daniel discover that for some a well crafted fairytale may just provide a change in the way that sentences are formed.
Between bargains and deals and laws due to age the JL boys try to follow how an initially described definite massacre plot would seem to become no more than adolescent musings
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Machetes and knives and bear-claws, oh my. As Sean and Daniel embark upon this episode it is immediately obvious that this is far from being any sort of feel good children’s fantasy.
The JL boys investigate the backstory of both “The Blacksmith” and ”The Diarist” as well as the details of their proposed plot that was thankfully foiled before it could be carried out.
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In their last episode Sean and Daniel gave us an in depth education on the complexities surrounding the divisive intersection that is youth offending attracting adult punishments.
In this episode the JL boys recount real examples, highlighting what happens when the theoretical learnings of the classroom meet the practical application within the courtroom.
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The JL boys kick off their next series and while they’ve debated the sentencing process before they up the ante by looking at the complexity of youth sentencing for serious “adult” crimes.
Sean and Daniel deep dive into the rules, regulations, legislation and leeways around adjudicating young offenders in an adult court for crimes that attract adult punishments.
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What started out as an almost comical concept of for the JL boys quickly became no laughing matter as the consequences of Romeo Pacifico’s actions were uncovered.
Sean and Daniel inspect the cracks in the shaky foundations of this fraudulent concreter and watch as his empire ultimately came crashing down like a flimsy house of cards.
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While he was pumping concrete for a living, cracks were beginning to form in the fake, fantasy, celebrity world of stolen identity and even more stolen finances of Romeo Pacifico.
Sean and Daniel follow this tale of fraud and false identity, the damage done and even how the band Bon Jovi would need to seek legal representation in an Adelaide courtroom.
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This series concludes with the final installment of Karen’s interview where we hear about enduring an appeals process, the ongoing impacts and how it’s shaped who she is today.
Sean and Daniel provide their own thoughts on the case against Peter Snodgrass, the wider concept of an “abuse their power” and an insight into their plans for the year ahead.
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As Karen’s interview continues we hear what it’s like to go through the legal process and the reality of the court process all while trying to deal with personal trauma and betrayal.
Karen also takes Sean and Daniel through the process of creating her victim impact statement, its amendments and the emotion of reading this in an open courtroom.
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The next in the JL interview series kicks off and it starts with a bombshell as “Rowena” chooses to show her courage and strength in a manner that catches everyone off guard.
Sean and Daniel are intrigued to understand yet another perspective of this case as we hear insights into how well a facade can be built to perpetrate the cruelest betrayal of all.
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The JL boys wind down their coverage of this case, but not before recapping the story so far and still trying to grapple with the concepts of “courtroom mathematics” and rehabilitation.
Sean also turns the tables for Daniel to talk about what his personal experience has been like throughout the telling of this case. It is frank, raw and revealing to say the least.
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As we start this episode Sean offers Daniel and the listeners an apology for the secret he’s been keeping regarding his coverage of this case and the potential impact to an outcome.
The JL boys then attempt some “courtroom mathematics” when applied to sentencing before discussing rehabilitation and the genuine intent of the individual found guilty.
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After hearing the volume of charges and the concept of the ability to control himself, Sean and Daniel now tackle the concept of how do you sentence appropriately for these crimes.
The JL boys dissect the elements that factor into the length of this sentence and this would be accepted by the victims, as usual however, there would be yet another twist in this tale.
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In this second episode of this series we move into the courtroom as Daniel and Sean start uncover the full extent of the offences and deceit committed by this perverted chiropractor.
The JL boys try to dissect all of the legal elements of these happenings including more alleged charges, suppression orders, relevant dates and even the concept of controllability.
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As the JL boys begin their next series it takes an immediate turn as this time it is Daniel that provides Sean with the background and insight into the subject matter at hand.
When the details of betrayal, abuses of trust and disregard of professional ethics unfold they would only be outweighed by the sheer volume of the number of offenses committed.
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In the conclusion to the interview with Jen Samson, we are reminded that the process to seek justice is nothing short of confronting and compassion for victims is a lacking commodity.
Daniel and Sean hear firsthand why Jen continued to push on despite repeated challenges to her trust, choice and agency and learn how this shaped the woman Jen is today.
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In the first of their two part interview with Jen Samson, Daniel and Sean get a true insight into how this young woman would have her innocence eroded and her trust betrayed.
As this episode continues the JL boys learn more about Jen’s ordeal with the systems surrounding her, those who would support her and the courage she would choose to display.
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As the JL boys pick up the story we start with a courtroom showdown, we hear a survivor’s advocacy for other victims and discuss the need for the changing of damaging wording.
Sean and Daniel also consider wider public implications, protecting the person while telling their story and what does it say about us if we can’t identify the enemy in our midst?
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This episode sees Jen Samson’s case continue as we pick up when Sean faces an unexpected ultimatum where simply understanding it’s wording alone would almost baffle the boys.
The JL boys also navigate the breaking down of the core tenets of courtroom journalism, the delivery of a powerful victim impact statement and then of all things, a courthouse stand off.
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In this new series Sean and Daniel explore the impacts of when trust and vulnerability is betrayed and how individuals and families navigate this and the court process as a result.
Sean describes his experiences as this case would begin like none before it and would lead to a divided courtroom, a change in plans and how suppression orders again come into play.
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After talking about the concept of information being suppressed from the public and how the courts can go about this, the boys now investigate the systems outside of the courtroom that play just as big a role in this issue.
In this episode Sean and Daniel discuss the, at times befuddling, bureaucracy that exists within the process of how information can be sought out and exactly what version of the information provided can be used where, when and how.
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In this episode the boys deep dive further into the murky world of suppression orders as they attempt to break down the often baffling legislation of 71A. They examine the many abstract elements that have created our current legal normalcy of hush, don't say a word.
This even leads Sean and Daniel to consider the necessity of this legislation itself as they look at a two tiered legal application, the when, why and how 71A needed to change and all the way back to how this is tied to the literal beginnings of South Australia as we know it.
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The boys continue to expand our education of suppression orders as this episode focusses on Section 69A. They dissect and discuss what it was and now is, how it's applied and the limitations it appears to have in a world where times and technology has evolved.
Sean also fills us in on some of the most intriguing tales of his career as Daniel asks him about some of his past encounters with suppression orders where close calls, interpretations and attempted power plays would leave them both shaking their heads.
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The boys again tackle the legal system head on. While many of us have probably heard the term “suppression order”, many of us are likely unaware of exactly what they are and how they are applied.
In this episode Sean and Daniel investigate the details of exactly what suppression orders are, why they are in place and just how often they are used. Unless, of course, this episode also gets suppressed…
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In this episode the boys examine the influence that politics would have on our legal system and we question if the balance of power had shifted too far as the Paul Nemer case concludes. What have we learned and how has this affected Sean's career?
We also discuss the use and impact of social media and its consequences. And Sean delivers the evolved definition he believes a modern day journalist should adhere to. The big question is, do Sean and Daniel measure up to this new concept?
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The boys are straight into their next series, journalism and justice, to further understand the relationship between the media and the legal system. They discuss what defines a journalist, who should call themselves one and the evolution of journalism in our courts.
While Daniel continues his education, Sean takes us back to revisit his very early days in the courtroom. He shares how his actions in a high profile case would define his journalistic beginnings and shape his own evolution as a court reporter for years to come.
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In the final episode of the Cy Walsh case Sean and Daniel reveal every last detail we know to date. As this case ultimately and simply takes its place among others like it, the overall question of how effectively the legal system and mental health intersect still remains.
The boys unpack everything they've covered, revise all they have learned and even question all they know. And after all of that they are left to challenge themselves to reason this against their ultimate measuring stick, was this just, lawful, or somewhere in between?
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As we start this episode the boys think they know exactly where we stand and where we are headed. As is often the way, Sean and Daniel would discover just how quickly things can change and how easily we can be hurtled in an entirely different direction.
Although Cy Walsh would finally have his fate decided in a courtroom, it would not be before abject opinion, clinical diagnosis and even football priorities were debated. And even then, in one final ironic twist, this story nearly didn’t saw the light of day.
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It's welcome back, thanks for the messages and straight back to where we left of as Sean and Daniel continue to wade through the sea of opinion, suppression and conjecture in the case of the death of Phil Walsh.
In this episode the boys unpack the ongoing media concerns, the jury selection process and what factors would be considered to move the case against Cy Walsh into a courtroom at all.
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This series has so far grappled with the concepts of mental health, internal family struggle and the ultimate tragic outcome of a life being taken. Beyond this, another battle would emerge. This time within our legal system and questions of its procedural correctness.
In this very public case, how do you qualify the idea of granting access to the most sensitive of information yet be unable to be publicise this. Sean and Daniel discuss the ramifications as they continue their coverage of the death of Phil Walsh.
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This is the episode where all of the pieces we've heard so far come together as we look at the last 36 hours that lead up to the death of a beloved public figure and the descent of young man into bizarre and a heartbreaking state of mind.
As the coverage continues, both Sean and Daniel try to make sense of all of the circumstances, personalities and fraught attempts that were not able to change the course of events that would lead to Phil Walsh's death at the hands of his own son, Cy.
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Throughout this series we have heard the individual tales of a troubled young man and a dedicated sporting personality. This is the episode where the pieces come together to reveal the true nature of the relationship that was Phil and Cy Walsh.
Sean and Daniel take us deep into the investigation that would cause both of the boys to work through their own thoughts about a tragic killing, the shifting dynamic of a father and son and what would ultimately would tear this family apart.
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In this episode the story of Cy Walsh and the death of his father, Phil, continues as we hear about what was in those seven boxes. Inside would be documents that would offer insight, with many others posing even more questions.
And while Sean grapples with what he uncovers, he also to grapples with what does it all mean, what can he do with this information and should he even have this unprecedented access to such sensitive information.
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As the shockwaves rippled out and initial feelings of disbelief and confusion subsided what everyone wanted next was answers. While tributes flowed for Phil Walsh, the media and law enforcement scrambled to put the pieces together about he and his son, Cy.
In this episode Sean describes his experience of the immediate hours that would follow an incident that would stun not only this state, it would evoke an unprecedented national response. Join the boys as they uncover how strangely this story would eventually be told.
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Over the last few episodes Sean and Daniel have challenged us to consider how we perceive and accept the interception of when the elements of mental competence and the legal system converge.
Against a case which experienced exposure like none before it, the JL boys pose the question of what happens when the context and our emotional connection becomes greater than the content and circumstance that creates it.
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Finding the balance of punishment, rehabilitation and a sense of justice is rarely a simple and easy process. When the element of mental competence is proven to be absent within this process it only becomes a more difficult premise.
Sean and Daniel wrestle with the pieces of this complex and emotional landscape, trying to comprehend how this can applied as they highlight a number of cases and what occurs when those who are detained seek to be released.
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A tragic incident occurs in a form no one initially understands. The facts would unfold to expose how complex and damaging the concept of mental health can be on victims, survivors, public opinion and just as concerningly, the concept of justice.
As the JL boys dissect this case they try to reconcile facts and fractured pieces of mental health against the idea of trying to find understanding and justice for a grieving family in a situation that seems nothing short of unbelievable.
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This is where we move from the academic understanding of the law into its' real world application by examining one of Sean's most revealing mental competency cases.
We investigate the impacts of this confusing and concerning lifecycle from a tragic incident through to processing, treatment and potential release back into the community at large.
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The boys start their next series, this time on Mental Health. They provide some essential understanding of the complex landscape and the decisive perspectives that exist when the law is tasked with determining mental incompetence and the concept of legal responsibility.
As Sean and Daniel introduce us to "Section 269" and the idea of a "Limited Term" they also petition the listening audience to bring an open mind and an empathetic perspective to a circumstance that many of us may already have a previously formed opinion on.
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The idea of “no mud, no lotus” has been the underlying theme throughout this interview series and this is the episode that proves just exactly how true this statement can be.
Arman is joined by wife Genevieve discuss what life after tragedy has become, including launching a foundation, creating a family of their own and being a catalyst for change.
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In this episode we hear the raw, real and heartbreaking experiences of man challenged with grief, self-awareness and keeping his family together through circumstances most of us could barely imagine, let alone endure.
As Sean and Daniel continue their conversation with Arman, they continue to learn more about the complex environment before, during and after his mother’s death.
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In this first episode of the interview of Arman Abrahimzadeh we hear direct from the source about growing up in a new land, with new customs and how a young man would come to question how and why his home life differed from this new world.
As Arman discusses his early years, Sean and Daniel begin to understand the complexity of the situation that his mother, Zarah, was faced with and the strength and courage she would continue to show throughout her life.
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As they provide more examples in this episode, Sean and Daniel, question if our thinking and systems are evolved enough to provide a new understanding of the factors and complexities of Domestic Violence.
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There is seemingly no black and white answers to be found in a system that deals only in absolutes. Sean and Daniel investigate how the decisive subject of Self Defence and Domestic Violence has evolved through the legal system.
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The conclusion of the murder of Zahra Abrahimzadeh would see a court trial that takes a true Hollywood style turn, the likes of which Sean hadn’t seen before or since, a scathing public report on the police and what impact has all of this had on those left behind to live with this legacy?
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As the JL coverage of the murder of Zahra Abrahimzadeh continues we are taken inside the courtroom to learn of the brutal history within this family unit. We’re told of the evidence tendered by both sides, the arrogance displayed by the defendant on trial and how this would provide an outcome Sean had never seen before.
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In the first episode of our next series the JL team expose the complex and often hidden world of domestic violence. The murder of Zahra Abrahimzadeh is nothing short of a true family tragedy.
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The boys asked and you responded. As a result you asked and Daniel put it to Sean to provide the answers to your questions. From the serious discussion of notorious criminals and most rewarding moments to comics, pro wrestling and everything in between. This episode delivers a whole side of Sean and even Daniel you never knew you needed to know.
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In an episode that would span three continents the end would indeed be nigh for the Agape Ministries. Before we get there though, there’s plenty of ground to cover as the JL boys discuss a hidden bank account, a four way battle for lost millions, a messenger, a warning of foreboding doom and international bingo. Listen as the conclusion of this case unfolds with an ending unlike anything we’ve seen so far.
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The escapades of the Agape Ministries continue as we're introduced to devoted followers surrounded by "minders", threats of biblical proportion, legal wrangling, "The Messenger", taxation failures, an international commando style raid and a police force who are handcuffed from within meaning this Man of God could ultimately remain in paradise.
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In this episode the boys start their next case and this one very quickly proves to deliver a whole new level of bizarre they haven’t faced yet. What starts out as a simple firearms charge spirals into an unimaginable story of a doomsday cult, devoted followers, a tropical island promise land and an empire worth millions of dollars.
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Secrecy, deception, tax evasion and....... Ninjas? Yes, you read that correctly, Ninjas. In this "palate cleanser" episode the JL boys discuss Sean's boyhood comic dreams becoming reality with secret underground Ninja clans existing right here in his own hometown. This case proves you don't need violent and vicious crimes to test the concept of Just vs Lawful.
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The second part of the Steve Egberts interview provides even more insight on the frustrations endured and the difficulty for those engaged within the systems and departments charged with the welfare of the vulnerable. Sean and Daniel also provide their final thoughts upon the conclusion of the Hillier Triple Murders.
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In this episode Sean and Daniel present the first part of their sit down interview with Steve Egberts, the grandfather of the children involved within the Hillier Triple Murders. We hear direct from a man who has been fighting to honour the memories of his family and ensure no other child or their families ever has to endure the same experiences.
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Sean and Daniel uncover the last pieces of this puzzle. This story continues to unfold as they discuss how bringing the involvement of the department responsible for child welfare to light would hinge on the reinstating of the existence of a child, and how that would be left up to grieving grandparents to even occur.
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The Hillier Triple Murder moves from the trial process and into the sentencing phase of its' proceedings. Like everything to do with this case, however, there are still more twists, turns and unexpected events to be navigated. The external factors, that those left behind are forced to deal with, also come to light.
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With the expectation of the trial process being blindsided by yet another unexpected twist we begin the task of attempting to comprehend what this now means. We hear firsthand the impact to those left behind as well as the state of mind of the man accused and how the systems we rely upon can often feel anything less than reliable.
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The twists and turns continue in this episode as the court process continues and everyone is forced to endure even more delays. The boys step us through what these delays are as well as start to uncover even more examples of how those affected are treated by all of the elements of the judicial system.
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This story continues to provide more unexpected and desperate twists and turns. In this episode we unveil the depths of the hurt and suffering endured by this mother and her children. We also learn what the accused and his defense offer as their version of events.
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The second episode in the Hillier Triple Murder sees Sean revisit a difficult time to explain the personal impact this case had on him. Also, more information comes to light that starts to show there is more to this case than was first thought as well it then heading in truly unexpected directions.
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Sean and Daniel begin their second case with the Hillier Triple murder. A tragic story of a mother and her two children found killed in a remote farmhouse that would continue to provide moments that showed the murders were just the tip of an iceberg of tragedy.
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This is the emotional conclusion of the interview that Sean and Daniel conducted with Julie Kelbin. Hear her reaction to the verdict, her feelings about the justice system and the rare moment of humanity that lifted her, quite literally, out of the gutter.
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So far you've heard Sean and Daniel talk to you the about and breakdown this emotional and controversial case. In this exclusive episode you'll hear from directly the voice of the one person who has the most to say yet has been silenced for so long, Jack's mum, Julie Kelbin.
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In this episode, join Sean and Daniel as they dissect the verdict that is delivered as Reece Watherston stands trial. What did it actually say and what did it mean for all of those involved? Just as importantly, what was the impact and the fallout from all of this?
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On the second episode of the death of Jack Hanley, co-hosts Daniel Panozzo and Sean Fewster discuss the why and the how of the trial process. As well as the impact this had on both Sean and Jack's mother, Julie Kelbin.
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