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Join staff and friends of Journey Church for this weekly podcast where we explore pressing questions about faith, history, truth, and what it means to be a Jesus follower. Every Thursday, you’ll hear stories, interviews, guidance on spiritual practices, (and some irreverent humor) as we awaken, align, and live out our true identities in Christ. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/journeychurch/support

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This week, we began a series of discussions called "Social Distortion." Mike Erre argued that sin and salvation are worked out in community, not just individually. That brought up a LOT of listener questions: Can I sin in isolation? Can I have identity in a community of faith and still not experience salvation? Isn't it possible to encounter God as an individual? Mommy's little monsters Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons join Mike for this week's discussion.

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00:47 Banter banned?

-- 01:05 Nope

01:45 Dinking Problems

02:50 Second attempt to transition to content

-- 02:51 Nope

03:28 Banter done now? (Plus shout out Brad Erre)

-- 03:35 Nuh uh

04:38 This time for sure. Content... go

-- 04:40 There they go again

05:09 Content-like introduction to our Social Distortion series

-- 06:07 So close but so distractible

06:29 Full metal content (with occasional interruptions)

12:57 Yes, but who played the part of Tom Hanks? (Banter, but also relevant to the content.)

14:45 Listener questions


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Jesus saved the worst of his woes to the Pharisees for last, telling them, "Look, your house is left to you, desolate." This week's surprise guest asks our regular NOW talking heads Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons exactly what that means. Is there a point at which just God abandons us?

Plus: She's so unusual! Discover the first surprise guest who can out-'80s Mike.

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00:40 Welcome to the jungle

01:02 It's raining men with Suzie Lind on vacation this week

01:54 You dropped a bomb on me. Who's gonna be this week's guest?

02:41 Lady (You Bring Us Up). Meet singer, author, worship leader and punk Barbie, Stephanie Skipper.

04:20 Diamonds on the sides of her shoes

11:23 Electric blue

15:42 Who's zooming who? Kevin plays the 80s game. For just a second. 'Cause he's only got one song.

16:33 You gotta have faith, faith, faith. So, this is where the real content starts for all you Bible super freaks.

31:05 How will I know? A listener asks about balancing individual vs community mindsets during the music at Sunday gatherings

42:17 Everyday I write the book. Stephanie tells us about Thank You for Failing Me, her new memoir out on Amazon.

46:25 It's the end of the podcast as we know it (and we feel fine)


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Apparently, we're experts in Bad Religion, because we're still talking about it in our current gatherings. A listener asks what to do when personal values and morals conflict with religious dictums. Can bad religion harm our innate goodness? This week's panel of Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons unpack it all. Also, Tim wants to know why we both celebrate and lament "humanness." Is there a contradiction there, or are we missing something in the English translation?

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00:40 61 Candles

03:40 The Grand Tetons

04:26 Mommy Juice In A Glass Bottle

08:30 Nate Erre checks in. (not heard from again)

09:15 Discussion of bad religion starts. Or bad religion starts. Maybe both.

29:05 Hip Checks

34:04 Tim Has A Clarifying Question.

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As we continue to study the attitudes and practices behind bad religion, a special surprise guest joins regulars Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons to explore manipulative evangelism. How can we live out Jesus-following lives that attract others without asserting power? Also: Is it ever right (or Christ-like) to enforce power over others for a good reason?

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00:45 Let the banter begin

01:40 Highway to heaven. Or Kevin.

03:01 Question: Why do we leave a seat empty at this table?

04:05 The name game: Ace, Tom and the Eye of Zahra

05:42 Response: But, actually, it's the mother of Q&R

10:35 Simply the best: This week’s transition to content comes smooth, like a river deep or a mountain high

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This week, we studied Jesus' rebuke to the Pharisees that were making followers into twice the children of Hell that they were. That prompted a listener to ask what salvation really is? And it sent this week's panel of Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons into a reflection on evangelism. What has the Church done to make salvation hellish? What will future generations say we got wrong? And, how can we do better?

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00:41 Pastors are doing it for themselves--censorship, that is.* We join mid-banter as they scrap 15 minutes of intro they thought might rub some folks the wrong way...

01:08 ... and then, much talking about all the things the rest of us didn't get to hear: The pain of Mother's Day for dads; grain-free chips; mumbletypeg and more.

03:28 Lame intro question: The one where Tim doesn't like "Friends."

06:05 Thoughtful, mature Biblical content begins.

  • Editor's note: Good call scrapping Take One, guys. We have the audio, and we're saving it. (Also: Production Team's Day is next weekend.)

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In the middle of our conversations on Bad Religion, Kevin Dixon took a break this week to consider the "pure religion" described in James 1:27. Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre join in the conversation on caring for others, restoring the humanity of those around us.

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00:50 Banter Segment: A complete load of shiva

05:00 Three women and a mike

08:56 A "bird flies in" to Suzie's "house"

10:30 What brown does for us

12:40 Bible Segment: From pure shiva to pure religion

23:45 Back To Banter: The team makes it through 11 minutes of actual content. Great job. And now ... it's back to junior high

26:58 Brad Erre: Start listening here


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Special guest Tim Stafford from the Voxology podcast joins regular NOW contributors Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and Kevin Dixon this week. As we continue our series on bad religion, they discuss what evangelism looks like in the Bible.

How does our modern notion of "speaking truth in love" compare with Paul's original more active exhortation to be "truthing in love?" When is it appropriate to intervene in the lives of those around us?

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0:00 The Babble Dribble

-- 2:18 Baby cried the day the circus came to town

-- 2:50 Welcome Tim Stafford. We're so sorry you have to endure this

7:29 Good thoughts on bad religion


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We're continuing to study the 'woes' that Jesus proclaimed on the Pharisees in Matthew 23. So, this week's NOW table looks at the struggles of Christian leaders. How can they resist the temptation to crave and feed off of adulation? (Featuring Journey's own celebrities—Kevin Dixon, Rob Gonzalez, Tim Timmons and special guest Brooke Wanser.)

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0:00 The Babble Begins

2:25 A Babbling Brooke?

5:30-12:59 Whizzing Around The Table

-- 5:30 Kevin's All Wet

-- 8:48 Golden Slumbers

-- 10:08 Rob Is P.O'ed

-- 11:24 You Can't Spell Puppy Without The 'P'

13:00 Whoa: Too much sharing. Time to talk about the woes.


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We're taking a closer look at the Pharisees that Jesus rebuked and finding that they're a lot like us. On this episode, Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons examine some of the harm that rules-based Christianity causes. Does relationship have to come with a litmus test?

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0:00 Karaoke's eternal flame. And: Who're you calling Pastor Dumas?

6:35 Transition from jokes to yokes, as we compare Jesus' easy load with the Pharisees' heavy burdens

47:17 The rapture of Kevin


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Our new series of Sunday conversations, "Bad Religion," looks at the series of woes that Jesus pronounced on the Pharisees. It's easy enough to condemn those corrupt religious hypocrites. But if we look closely, do we see ourselves? Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Kevin Dixon take a look in the cultural mirror.

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0:00 Banter: Total eclipse of the ratings.

4:16 Brother Where Art Thou, Brad?

13:39 China Grove (Mike's Version)

14:57 Whoa. No more banter. Content begins.

47:50 Taking the rapture for granted.


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JourneyNOW's panel of Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons reflect on a meaningful Easter weekend, when our community celebrated the death of death and Tim shared how he feels living with a cancer diagnoses for more than 20 years. Also: A listener asks about the "why" behind Jesus' suffering and death. Plus, eminently skippable banter.

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0:00 Echo chamber banter

0:53 Tim arrives and throws Suzie's greater lateness under the bus

1:13 Tim's drop off and the search for new Underoos

2:00 Literally, pickleball

3:37 Suzie enters, killing it (see 6:33)

3:54 CSX brings hat heaven to Kevin

7:48 Mike crashes back in Nate news after a brief exit

12:00 Banter is finally buried and content rises

38:03 Vacuum Chamber

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At the beginning of Easter week, we’re pausing to consider Jesus as he weeps over Jerusalem. Why was he filled with lament? What were the people of Jerusalem missing as they hailed him one day only to call for his execution a few days later? And, what are we missing as we try to accept Jesus on our own terms? Also, a listener asks Suzie Lind, Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, and Tim Timmons where the line is between lament and giving in to darkness?

Plus: We celebrate 26,297,280 minutes of Suzie Lind in a segment that feels like at least that long.

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0:00 Supplemental segment
09:20 50 ways to love your pastor
13:00 Timestamp brilliance recognized
14:55 Jesus weeps (and so do we) as the group finally discusses lament
44:20 B’toile

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In a world filled with lament, Kevin Dixon has been asking what fills us with hope? After our Sunday conversation on the parable of the persistent widow, listeners are asking why God needs us to be persistent in our hope and prayers? And why would he wait or refuse to answer prayers? Mike Erre, Tim Timmons and Suzie Lind join the discussion.

Plus: Does our podcast content flow backwards in the Southern Hemisphere? Suzie walks through British Columbia on her way to Journey. And, Ohio groans as Mike tells stories about the men that he plays with.

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0:00 Male-dominated banter about men's challenges during childbirth labor

2:12 Suzie walks in late, righteous and indignant

5:00 Shout out to Brad Erre

13:40 Persistence pays off for those still listening as content begins


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In case you missed our Sunday livestream (someone broke the Internet), we snaked out the roots of the Genesis serpent whose seed will fight the seed of the woman for the rest of the Bible.

That seed of thought sprouted questions from our listeners about who the Nephilim actually were, whether they survived the flood, how the Bible reflects ancient Middle Eastern flying-snake motifs and more. The whole NOW team of Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, and Tim Timmons is reunited this week to respond, and it feels so good.

Plus: Mike goes full Monty with the Nephilim; Tim and Suzie are back from arid zones; and Kevin shows some leg.

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0:00 The NOW team works to earn more dislikes

14:49 Listener questions--so many of them--on Nephilim, winged serpents and more.


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We’re learning to examine Bible translations more deeply as our recent Sunday conversation about Genesis 3 showed. So, a listener asks why bad and biased translations of the Bible persist. How do we trust what we read, and is there a better way to study God’s word? It’s an all male panel this week as Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Sam Barnhart and Rob Gonzalez untangle the subject of translation philosophy.

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0:00 Four men talk about gender roles and childbirth

22:12 Listener questions on Genesis 3

Plus: It’s RevKev for President in 2024; Mike dreams of being sidelined and gets lost in Rob’s eyes; Rob needs extra napkins at McDonalds and Sam’s just living his best life.

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A listener asks the NOW team whether the Eve of Genesis was more vulnerable to deception because of her gender. Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Rob Gonzalez look harder at what the Bible is (and isn't) really saying about gender roles, equality and differences.

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0:00 It's sort of what bank music would sound like if it were a podcast

16:30 Listener question and Genesis 2 discussion

Plus: Kevin gets the lead out; Rob shares a story from the vault; Mike gets into a careless twister over Spanx; and Suzie labors over a Dodgers game.


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Our Sunday conversation explored how it was not good for the Adam of Genesis 2 to be alone and God’s creation of an “Ezer Kenegdo” as Adam's opposite, ally, rescuer and mirror image, but not his subordinate. With this reading in mind, the Journey NOW table team— Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons—takes on listener questions about traditional ideas of gender roles, Biblical masculinity, marriage, power and partnership.

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0:00 Stupid is as stupid says. (A reading of inspired insults)

13:53 Genesis 2 discussion

Plus: Hava Nagila! The core four celebrate their reunion with a Twizzler shower; a book about stupidity inspires a game of “Heaven Or Kevin;” Tim discovers that all you need is love; and does a pastor pee in the woods?


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It's down to Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons this week, as Kevin reflects on a recent loss. Then, Kevin and Tim consider the loss of relationship in Genesis 2 as the original readers would have understood it.

Plus: Tim's back from serving a second stint at San Quentin and Kevin gets pickled.

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0:00 Intro

28:55 Genesis 2 discussion begins.


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Can we trust our pastors and other leaders? Or is trust something that's built in community, outside of any single person's shortcomings and authority? Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and youth pastor Rob Gonzalez share Journey's goal to create a group culture that's safe, welcoming and unafraid of questions.

Plus: Kevin's all about that bass in his convertible; Rob's guilty pleasure has a blank space; and Mike holds back the rain for Suzie, who's a card-carrying fan.

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0:00 Intro and literally HA HA HA

12:10 Discussion topic begins.


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We wrap up our discussion of what it really means to bear witness, what author Alan Kreider called The Patient Ferment of the Early Church. What does it look like to live a life of patient hope, and how does that differ from the vocal evangelism we've been taught? Journey Youth Pastor Rob Gonzalez joins regulars Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and Kevin Dixon.

Plus: Suzie's fit is on point; Kevin is cheeks at slang; Rob hugs people with his eyes and Mike does the mashed potato.

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0:00 Intro and banter for 15 minutes of your life that you'll never get back

15:22 Discussion topic begins.


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As we consider what it means to bear witness, a listener asks about diversity. Many churches talk about "unity without uniformity," but what does that mean at Journey? Are we pursuing ethnic diversity? Different opinions and backgrounds? A variety of ages and a mix of genders in the conversation? What steps have we taken, and how's that all working out in our community? Mike Erre joins Kevin Dixon for this week's conversation.

Plus: Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons are frozen out of the podcast after last week's Snowpocalypse. Kevin faces the cold with a literal cold and Mike chills out with an introvert's dream week.

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0:00 Kevin and Mike waste a bunch of our time with amusing banter

7:40 Listener question consideration begins.


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How does God meet us in our imperfection? And how can our interactions with others mirror that connectedness—even in the middle of shame and disappointment?

Plus: Mike Erre starts scheduling his meetings a year in advance; Suzie Lind gets messages from the (very near) future; and Tim Timmons dips deeper into the Purple Elderberry Drank (not that he believes in that stuff).


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This week's roundtable crew is talking about the meanings and intentions behind one of Journey's core practices. As Kevin Dixon explained on Sunday, we model Jesus by gathering around tables--at communion and in monthly gatherings at each others' homes. In these places, we practice inclusion and hospitality and plant the seeds for relationship and growth together. Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre join the discussion.

Plus: Suzie cooks up some crystal blue syrup; Tim can relate to Alexandre Dumas, Mike takes an opportunity to get loose and Kevin's not fancy like the New York churches.

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0:00 Welcome discussion and general mockery of holistic remedies

17:34 Real content starts

30:06 Mike gets loose

32:03 Composure is regained among the group


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We're seeing Christmas in a new way this year--not as Jesus coming to save us from Hell but instead bringing Heaven to Earth. This week's NOW panel of Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Betsy Raney reflects on that idea and their experience praying for others last Sunday and expanding Heaven spaces on Earth.

Plus: We take a cold plunge into the exercise pool, where Suzie swims in secret, Tim gets cold and bothered joining the billionaire bathing club, Kevin tries to just tread water but blows up and Betsy (of course) just keeps winning.

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0:00 A splash of banter

17:57 Deep dive into content

28:41 Tim gets serious


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As we continue our advent series on the past, present and future coming of Jesus, the NOW team of Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Tim Timmons reflect on God with us in the middle of our current darkness.

Plus: Kevin goes Gran Torino and yells at the railroad workers to get off his lawn. Producer Edwin Rivera III gives the whole team a mommy boost, but it just tastes like grass clippings to Mike. Suzie shares an unfortunate side effect of the boost beets that has Tim seeing red.

Also: Stay tuned after the credits to learn all the tributaries of the Ganges River.

0:00 Introduction and assorted inanities

15:27 Actual content begins

38:15 Postcredit banter


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In the first week of our advent series, Suzie Lind talked about light in the darkness. How do we wait, grief and hope in the midst of the darkness that remains in our own world? Tim Timmons, Mike Erre and Kevin Dixon share their own personal stories of light in darkness.

Plus: Nick The Bug Guy anoints Journey with essential oils; Suzie forgets to stack and chat; Seth Erre reveals the real meaning of Christmas; Mike goes full teppan yaki and practices his onion volcanoes; and Kevin loses his perfect attendance record for Christmas services.

0:00 Intro. Tomfoolery. Laughter.

19:20 Content begins


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This week, the heart of the matter is about forgiveness. Special guest Sam Barnhart joins Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons to reflect on Sunday's conversation about how hard it is to restore relationships.

Plus: Mike's iron immunity dome is breached because he didn't drink the mommy juice; Kevin shares TMI about his itches; Sam teaches Tim how to drain his bucket; and Suzie's wise enough not to step in it.

0:00 Intro and tomfoolery

3:30 Content begins

Click here for Tim's 10,000 Minutes podcast, which definitely doesn't sponsor or necessarily even want to associate with Journey NOW although it was mentioned today.

Tim also mentions The Five Love Languages of Apology by Gary Chapman.


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It's a crowded house this week at Journey NOW as dear listener Brad Erre, Nate Erre and Seth Erre join regulars Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre. On Sunday, we brought our Genesis 1 in-depth series to the seventh day with a look at rest and Sabbath. Now, a listener asks how secular self-care and mental health relate to our rest in God.

Plus: "Ace" Erre wakes from his gnostic hangover to discover that love may be all he needs to know; Tim is lost in the sauce again; Kevin's sippin' from his orange drank; Suzie IS the sauce; Brad shares the golden pie ratio; Nate knows what time it is; and Seth rules the post-credits scene, Marvel style.

0:00 Intro and tomfoolery (Brad Camp)

15:48 Content begins (Grant Camp)


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This week, we learned to place God's creation of humans into an ancient Middle Eastern context. Just as other religions had stone images of their gods, our God created us as his living image statues. So, if we're all His image bearers, how can we stop imaging Him and reflect other things? The NOW roundtable team of Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons takes on this and other listener questions.

Plus: Kevin goes to the naked river and says hello, Monty; Mike and his brother plan to hop in their a hot tub time machine with their tops down; Tim is lost in emotion as he takes on Lisa, Lisa at Pickleball; and Suzie is STILL HERE even though her immunity Iron Dome has been breached.

0:00 Banter and tomfoolery

13:30 Actual content begins


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Kevin Dixon and Suzie Lind reflect on a Dan Allender trauma seminar they attended this week at Journey and on the recent Sunday conversation Kevin led that looked at the Good Samaritan story from the perspective of the victim.

Plus: Fo' Twizz: Kevin gets some sugar affirmation regarding his favorite candy. And, Suzie gets ready for half a Halloween party.


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This week we took a closer look at the creation of the heavenly bodies in Genesis 1. Teaching pastor Mike Erre argued that the lights in the heavens were meant as more than just giant balls of burning gas that separate day and night time. They're symbols of the spiritual beings who govern in the heavens, just as humans are later created to rule over Earth.

All of which opens up a lot of listener questions. What are these spiritual beings? What does it mean when we talk about spiritual warfare? And, how does the ability to rule align with predestination or election? The roundtable crew of Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons join Mike to decode a few signs. (Listener questions segment begins at 16:30)

Plus: Suzie's Iron Dome of supplements fails to intercept a virus; Tim leaves Mike in another pickle; Mike uses the podcast to weed out lukewarm Christians and the Journey staff stages a care-frontation for Kevin's candy rage.


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A new listener asks the Journey NOW roundtable how the method behind our Sunday conversations--digging deep to understand the Bible's meaning to its original audience--fits into the spectrum of Christian teaching. Are we trying harder, or are we just weird? Rob Gonzalez joins this week's regular team of Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Mike Erre to explore this and other questions.

Plus: Kevin feels like he's walking through a horror movie set; Rob walks through a literal horror movie set; Mike's nickname comes from a comedy horror movie; and the ocean still never disappoints for Suzie.


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This week, tragic current events in the Middle East overwhelm our thoughts. The NOW roundtable team of Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and Tim Timmons encourage a more humble and curious response from those who approach cultural and news items with theological or political certainty.

Plus: Mike and Tim are in another Sabbath pickle and Suzie's picking up "liar" body language from them.


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Can Genesis live in harmony with evolutionary theories? The Big Bang? Aliens? The Journey NOW team says that's not the question the writer of the Bible's first book is trying to answer. So, even if it turns out that our pyramids are giant batteries for extraterrestrials, that doesn't have to rock your faith. Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre discuss listener questions following our recent Sunday conversations on the Hebrew words and worldview of Genesis 1.

Plus: Tim and Suzie get a little closer to Egypt, and Egypt gets closer to them; Mike tries being a little less acidic; Kevin's temporary crown hints at the one to come; and the whole team spends 13 minutes trying to Seinfeld up a podcast about nothing. (Content starts after that timestamp).


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Our continuing word-for-word Genesis 1 study is challenging us to rethink what we think about the Bible's first book. A listener asks this week's panel of Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Kevin Dixonhow we can share our learning with others without creating conflict.

Plus: Suzie gets in Mike and Tim's kitchen; Mike and Tim get pickled together; Kevin receives his crown; and special pop-in guest Lisa Larking lays down a double dill on the "viper" move.

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In this week's Sunday gathering, we began studying the beginning of the Bible with a close look at "bereshith," the very first Hebrew word. (It roughly translates as "in beginning.") Now, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre are answering listener questions and thinking about what it means for our faith when we grasp the original meaning of that very first word.

Plus: Mike gets berzhadied, Suzie confesses a past pushing syringes, Tim whipples up the new plant species (sphincter phytae) and Kevin is left to sweep alone.


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The Journey NOW team of Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre, Tim Timmons and Suzie Lind wraps up their Centered Set church discussion with listener questions and the realization that being centered isn't a sermon series or a declaration; it's an ongoing journey for our community to learn together and keep growing closer to Jesus.

Plus: Someone's dipping Suzie's Mommy Boost; Kevin takes a KwikTrip down memory lane to reveal Captain Shutoff Valve, his superhero alter ego; Mike volunteers for the night shift and Tim goes bougie with his ride.


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Is there a role in Centered Set churches to call out sin? And, when or how is that stepping over the line that we're not supposed to draw? Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre, Tim Timmons and Suzie Lind answer listener questions from a recent Sunday message.

Plus: Kevin picks a bad week to stop quoting movies; Tim's powder blue hat is one to grow on; Mike keeps the Barbarian at his gate; and Suzie mashes up toys and classic TV.


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As we continue to learn more about what a community centered on Jesus looks like, the Journey NOW team examines a real-world example of boundaried-vs-centered counseling. Betsy Raney, Tim Timmons and Rob Gonzalez join host Kevin Dixon for the discussion.

Plus: Rapper Big Rickey makes an appearance; Tim's freestyle game is 'S' for super and 'U' for unique; Kevin's sure Disneyworld came before Disneyland; and Betsy claims she was born in another century.


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We're learning to center our community on Jesus. That means looking to him when we're trying to discern between loosely-held beliefs and non-negotiable convictions. What happens, though, when you see my ride-or-die conviction as just another opinion? Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons consider how we resolve the conflicts at the very center of our faith.

Plus: Suzie takes the primrose path, Mike is high on potenuse, Kevin searches for merch and Tim's got nothing but crickets.


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As we continue exploring what it means to be a "centered set" church, this week's panel of Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons answer listener questions. What happens if my center and yours are different? How can we work well through our disagreements, and which elements of our faith our non-negotiable?

Plus: What three words would be on your t-shirt? And it's a rush when Mike's daughter Hannah calls from college during the podcast, even though it's all Greek to the others.


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The idea of "centered set" church is key to Journey's identity. On Sunday, Mike Erre explained the differences between "bounded," "fuzzy" and centered groups and why we choose to define ourselves by the Jesus who is at the core of our community instead of through rules or unrestrained tolerance.

Mystery guests Howard, Carl, Zara and Bobby Jo play their own middle game as they join Mike to think more deeply about centered sets and to answer a listener question: What happens when people define their center in different, individual ways?


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We're called to love God and others with all our strength, but do we really know what that means? On Sunday, Suzie Lind explained that the Hebrew word me'od means something much, much closer to "muchness." It's an intensifier, the idea that we bring all that we are to loving. Suzie examines what this really means with Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Tim Timmons.

Plus: Kevin takes a trip while Mike takes a vacation; Tim hits the skids at youth camp; and the muchness of camp is much too much for Suzie.


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As we continue to explore how we can love God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength, this week's panel of Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Kevin Dixon discuss soul. What does it look like to rest our soul, and why is that so important?

Plus: Mike Erre has gone Cali (or maybe Cinnamon Beach?) and Tim and Sam pitch a new show idea.


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What does it look like to love God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength? The whole JourneyNOW team is back at the roundtable to discuss Suzie Lind's recent teaching on heart. Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Tim Timmons and Lacy the dog join Suzie to discuss.

Plus: Mike has rose hips, Tim calls a different kind of B.S., Suzie shows a face to match her heart and Kevin takes a ride on the soul train.

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Why does it seem that faith and psychology are at odds? Do they have to be, or are there ways of integrating our relationship with God and clinical approaches to mental health? On Sunday, Kevin Dixon and psychologist Dave Verhaagen ⁠explored these questions⁠. On this week's NOW episode, Kevin continues the conversation with Suzie Lind, as they share their own experiences with mental health and as pastors.

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On Sunday, we rethought the idea of "eternal life." Instead of the Old Testament idea of a messiah who ends the present age and introduces the age to come, Jesus brings his Kingdom into the midst of our messy present time. NOW roundtablers Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and special guest Seth Erre unpack the now-and-not-yet overlap between our evil age and the coming Kingdom age.

Plus: Suzie tries to save face, Mike loses the "Most Christ-like" competition, Kevin is practically pluperfect and Seth has left the building.

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On Sunday, Mike Erre broke out his tech drawing tools to illustrate the difference between the Earth that perishes and an eternal life temple space. We're still trying to figure out what the hair on his globe means, but the discussion yielded questions on how people live in one space but still show behavior from the other one. Grant Opperman joins regulars Mike and Kevin Dixon to dig deeper.

Plus: Mike previews his upcoming drawings of time and the multiverse , Grant shouts out Mike's brother Brad Erre in the show notes and Kevin just wishes he had gone to Honduras or California this week with the rest of the Journey crew.

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It turns out there's a difference between allegiance and personal commitment. As we learned this week, understanding the meaning of "pistis," the original Greek word for belief, makes all the difference. Rather than behavioral allegiance, it signifies active, committed loyalty to a person. So, how do we get it wrong when we say we believe in Jesus? The full NOW panel of Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Kevin Dixon returns this week to discuss, along with special guest Seth Erre,.

Plus: Suzie gets a sponsor, Seth uses two straws, Mike tries on his cranky pants, Tim shows how to hug with your eyes and Kevin picks up what the zoo animals leave behind.

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This week, the Journey community recounted so many stories of Jesus' invitation extending those his "insider" followers didn't want to accept. Ethiopian eunuchs, Gentiles, unlicensed demon exterminators and more. All of which spurred listeners to ask: Where's the line? Isn't there any limit to who's eligible for the Kingdom? NOW rountablers Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon and Rob Gonzales consider the logic of drawing boundaries around Christian behavior. Plus: Mike learns the Jeep Wave, Kevin check out the Costco samples in Europe and Rob O'Gonzales embraces his heritage--all while Suzie Lind is away fixing leaks with bee wax. - - Got your own question or a comment for JourneyNOW? Make our team bigger by joining the discussion by texting us at (615) 861-9503.


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On Sunday, Pastor Rob Gonzalez talked about fear and faith, challenging listeners to name their own fears. The responses we got were overwhelming. This week's roundtable panel—Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons, Nate Erre and special guest Seth Erre—explores their own experiences and understanding of how healthy faith and fear overlap.

Plus: It's SummerTim; Seth lives his best rock 'n' roll life and Mike and Suzie compete at graduation.

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This week, hosts Kevin Dixon, Dave Verhaagen, and Sam Barnhart expore questions about questioning faith? Why does rethinking, questioning and being skeptical sometimes make us feel bad? Why are some people pre-disposed to deconstruct their understanding of God, while others remain comfortable? Is it just human to doubt, and how risky is it for our mental health?


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The NOW podcast needs a bigger roundtable as Kaydee Carter, Betsy Raney, Nate Erre and Tim Stafford join regulars Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre. Together, they explore how the truth is neither noun nor verb but actually a person. And, if you’re not confused enough by that idea, try living it.

Plus: Eyewitness accounts as Journey endures a swift storm, a special guest from the Red Era, Tim goes plural and Kevin yells at everyone to get off his lawn.

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The JourneyNOW roundtable team, Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon and Suzie Lind welcome a special guest, Nate Erre, for this week's discussion. As they continue their close reading of John 3:16, the words "so loved" from Sunday's message prompted lots of questions about the difficulties of loving. In particular, what does it mean to love your enemies? What does it require of us?

Plus: We talk favorite movies and celebrity obsessions, and you'll never guess who crushes on Brad Pitt....

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We began our study of one of the Bible's most famous passages, John 3:16, with a look at the words "For God." With the full roundtable panel back in studio, Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons examine some great questions from our listeners. If Jesus really is the perfect and complete imprint of God, how do we square Him with the God of the Old Testament? And, what does it mean when Jesus says "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me." (John 14:6)

Plus: Tim says "Chello;" Hilary Timmons catches Holy COVID; and Shekinah glory gets into everyone's clothes, their hair, the furniture and all over the studio.

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With Mike Erre and Tim Timmons giving them the silent treatment this week, remaining NOW roundtable panelists Kevin Dixon and Suzie Lind dig deeper into the honor / shame culture behind Suzie's recent message from John 21. After Jesus's crucifixion left his disciples behind, confused and ashamed, how did their breakfast with them on the beach redefine acceptance, honesty, guilt and reconciliation? What does that look like for us?

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This week's JourneyNOW roundtable panel of Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Suzie Lind explore listener questions about how literally we should think about the afterlife and the Bible. What exactly does it mean to have a glorified body? Since Jesus bore the scars of his crucifixion in his resurrected body, will we have our own scars in heaven? And, what's the difference between the Bible being inerrant and being true?

Plus: Mike discovers that those eggs are a lie, Suzie offers advice from Cheech Marin and Kevin is just Miss Congeniality.

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In the week after Nashville's Covenant School shooting, psychologist Dave Verhaagen and pastors Sam Barnhart and Kevin Dixon discuss trauma. What is trauma, and how do we deal with serious traumatic events? How can psychology and faith help us work through these experiences?

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Last Sunday, our community looked to Jesus' models of grief and anger as we responded to the Covenant School shooting tragedy earlier in the week. This week's NOW roundtable group—Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and special guest Seth Erre—try to balance those feelings with Journey's core value of welcoming hospitality. How do we talk honestly about issues that have been so politicized without offending?

Plus: Mike takes his Easters prep to Prime Video.


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What am I supposed to do with my life? How do I face job insecurity or illness or loss? Healthy emotions and behaviors get a lot harder when big questions arise. Fortunately, both faith and psychology give us tools to deal with life's uncertainty.

Plus: Hosts Kevin Dixon, Dave Verhaagen, and Sam Barnhart have a quirk-off.


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We got a lot of questions about the religious leaders that Jesus condemns in ⁠Mark 12⁠. Were all of them bad? Wasn't Jesus being a little judgmental? And who do we identify with in these stories? This week's roundtable crewmembers, Mike ErreTim Timmons, and Kevin Dixon, wrestle with ⁠Sunday's difficult teaching⁠ and what it all means in their own struggles.

Plus: Kevin discovers new music from a band called Maccabean Revolution; Mike admires the fresh-raked the Alabama forests; Tim shares notes from the book of Job; and Suzie stays silent as she just may be eyeing a new job.


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When you learn to accept pain—whether physical, mental or emotional—you take away some of its power. Dave Verhaagen explains this surprising practice of “radical acceptance” to co-hosts Kevin Dixon and Sam Barnhart. Plus: S’more names for the show, and we have a winner. - - -Do you have a hard question for Hard Feelings to address on a future episode? Join the discussion by texting us at (615) 861-9503. If you would like to talk with someone, you can email our care pastor, Sam Barnhart, sam@journeytn.com.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/journeychurch/support

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The disciples still don't get it despite Jesus' repeated explanation of the Kingdom of God throughout the book of Mark. Last Sunday, we heard John and James arguing over which of them would receive the greatest place of honor next to the Messiah. That sparked numerous questions on leadership, rights, privileges and more. Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons sit down at the JourneyNOW table to explore these topics and more.

Plus: Tim gets sauced in private; Mike has no patience for Suzie's salads; and Kevin tacos go south.


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Kevin Dixon's radical re-think of Jesus' encounters with the children and the rich man (Mark 10:13-31) led to lots of text line questions about money. What's the proper relationship for Jesus followers to have with their money? How should church organizations think about it? Kevin welcomes Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, and Tim Timmons to his JourneyNOW roundtable to account for their experiences.

Plus: Mike makes a trip to the House of Love and Suzie can't wink it away; Tim's home renovation plans are all wet; and therein lies the problem for Kevin.


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On this "Hard Feelings" edition of JourneyNOW, Kevin Dixon and Dave Verhaagen welcome new co-host Sam Barnhart. Together, they share their personal experiences with stress, anxiety and panic attacks. What's the difference between these three terms? Are stress and anxiety always bad? And, what psychological and faith-based tools helps can train us to manage these conditions?


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One of the most common questions from last Sunday's teaching was just how far we have to go in living a cross-shaped life.  What healthy boundaries should we set as we follow Jesus? That line of questioning reveals more about us than it does about Jesus' teaching, according to this week's JourneyNOW roundtable panel of Kevin Dixon, Tim Timmons, Suzie Lind and Mike Erre. They also consider questions about whether wealth and public platforms are compatible with following Jesus.

Plus: Tim's in another world, Suzie's appealing, life's a beach for Kevin and Mike's on a California roll.


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Last Sunday, Suzie Lind asked us to consider how we create barriers and discomfort for those might otherwise be drawn towards Jesus.  This week's JourneyNOW team of Mike Erre, Tim Timmons and Kevin Dixon delves deeper into that idea. They also share their hope for the Journey community as a place of radical hospitality, relationship and acceptance.

Plus: Mike spills the Low T tea; Kevin presses the big button; and Tim matches Avengers characters to the Journey staff.


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In this special premiere of a new bi-weekly discussion, host Kevin Dixon welcomes psychologist, author and Journey community member Dave Verhaagen. Kevin and Dave share their vision for a podcast exploring how people can pursue authentic faith and mental health at the same time.


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After Sunday's teaching from Mark, listeners asked why Jesus would choose such knuckleheads as his disciples. Suzie Lind and Mike Erre join host Kevin Dixon around this week's JourneyNOW podcast table to explore how Jesus moves followers towards active faith.

Plus: Kevin practices Resting Text Face👍 , Mike gets dress coded and Suzie gets us.


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Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre dig deeper into our new understanding of the parable of the soils. Last Sunday, we learned about Jesus' original intention for the story. (Hint: It's not about us.) If you haven't heard that message yet, you can listen here.

Plus: Mike breaks a sweat, Kevin explains the 1970s (again) and chaos ensues when Suzie says, "Follow me."


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Recently, the Journey community gathered for its first-ever Theology Lounge event, also affectionately known as "Hell In A Bar." Thanks to a donated space by Mill Creek Brewery, more than 100 of us came together to hear Teaching Pastor Mike Erre explain the main theories about Hell: What does the Bible actually have to say? How important is the subject of Hell in the Bible, and why does it describe it in such different terms than the red-devils-with-pitchforks-and-fire image of popular culture? 

After Mike's review, all--ahem--heck broke loose in a free-flowing, hour-plus Q&A session.

Before leaving for this week's staff retreat, Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon, and Rob Gonzalez gathered around our JourneyNOW roundtable to reflect on what they learned in Journey's inaugural Theology Lounge. They shared their own views and to answered more hellishly difficult listener questions. 


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This week's JourneyNOW roundtable team--Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Mike Erre--answers listener questions as we begin a new season in parallel with our Sunday series on Mark's Gospel, which we're calling the Cross-shaped Life. 

Plus: Seminary Suzie serves up a tasty Markan Sandwich for Kevin, Tom Tommons, Mikey Mike and the OG Magic Mike.


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Journey welcomed 2023 with a unique gathering last Sunday. Instead of the typical rows of seats arranged to listen to a pastor's message, we welcomed people to tables set for breakfast and conversation. If you want to know the vision of Journey, that's it: We seek to be a community where all are welcome, hospitality is extended and we know each other deeply as we seek to know Jesus together. 

On this special episode JourneyNOW host Kevin Dixon welcomes Mike Erre and Suzie Lind to talk more about Journey's vision. A listener asks how our belief that "all are welcome at the table" squares with 1 Corintians 5:11, in which Paul warns a church not to "associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[fn] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people."

So, which is it? Are we all welcome or not?


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As we finished our Revelation rethink this week with a picture of a renewed Heaven, listeners asked lots of questions about people left outside the gates of the new City. Kevin Dixon welcomes Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre to his JourneyNOW roundtable to consider the importance of Hell, how it might look, the ways in which we show hospitality to those with different views and whether we have free will in eternity.

Also: Kevin goes dark on a candy challenge, Mike shows off his magic moves and Suzie and Tim spill the tea on this week's staff Christmas party.


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In our next-to-last week rethinking Revelation, Mike Erre, Tim Timmons and Kevin Dixon join the JourneyNOW roundtable to answer listener questions on judgement, empire, Lakes of Fire, generosity and more.

Plus: With Suzie away, the boys go a little ding dong.


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As we rethink Revelation, Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and Tim Timmons join this week's JourneyNOW roundtable to answer listener questions about The Rapture and judgement .

Plus: Mike and Tim share a musical sign of the apocalypse. And Suzie's supplement drawer is exposed.


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In this week's Gathering, we looked at Babylon not just as a specific kingdom but as a repeating archetype of kingdom power. That sparked plenty of questions for our JourneyNOW roundtable panel of Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Kevin Dixon. Can we apply that archetype to our own world and cultures? And, how do we live in exile in those cultures as people who are centered on Jesus?

Plus: Bad theories on the secrets of Suzie's success; Kevin brings back Ocean Pacific style; Mike's best quality is just not being so bad; and Tim tries to remember where he is.


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An online viewer of our recent Sunday teaching texts us to ask: How do Journey's pastors actually understand Revelation and in what ways have their personal views changed over time. Suzie Lind hosts our discussion around the table with Kevin Dixon and Mike Erre.

Plus: Mike reveals how he removed the log in his eye, and Seth Erre takes a bite of the big apple.


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In our continuing Revelation rethink series, we learned this week to recognize the repeating "Day of the Lord" language that heralded God's judgement of Babylon and Rome. Listeners asked us if this pattern still continues through history and how we can recognize it. At this week's NOW table, host Kevin Dixon gathers with Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons to explore this question and more.

Plus: Suzie reveals her contraband scheme, Mike explains the elephant theory of nutrition, Tim has his hot gloves on and Kevin is killin' it with his Twizzlers.


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On Sunday, we learned how Revelation subverted the the Roman cult of Emperor worship. A listener asks this week's JourneyNOW panel how we can reconcile the obedience to powers on Earth mentioned in Romans 13 with worshipping only Jesus. Tim Timmons, Suzie Lind, and Mike Erre join host Kevin Dixon for the discussion.

Plus: Tim brings the sauce, Suzie sees her shadow and it all gives Kevin heartburn.


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This week, teaching pastor Mike Erre challenged us to consider the Revelation 5 image of a conquering lion who looks like a slaughtered lamb. Our listeners asked questions on what that looks like in their own lives. What does it mean to live in resurrection, to carry a cross or to be part of an army that's victorious through sacrifice? Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons join the table to discuss.

Plus: Things are all Greek to Mike, Suzie discovers the secret of super productivity, Kevin gets on board the love bus and Tim mops up for the crew.

You can go deeper with us in our study of Revelation with the books on Journey's specially curated Amazon book list for the series. 

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Host Kevin Dixon and friends Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons gather at the podcast Table to rethink the book of Revelation we have been learning about on Sundays. This week, a listener asks how  a message to first century churches is relevant to us and individuals and as a community. What does it mean to live every day with hope for a throne where only Jesus reigns? 

Plus, Suzie reveals a surprising teenage crush, Seth Erre makes an appearance with waffles and Kevin tries to save a prayer ‘til the morning after. 

You can go deeper with us in our study of Revelation with the books on Journey's specially curated Amazon book list for the series. 

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On Sunday, we discussed the letter to the church at Laodicaea (Rev. 3:14), a wealthy and comfortable church with little need for God and an apparently tepid municipal water supply.

This week's Journey NOW panel—Tim Timmons, Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and host Kevin Dixon—think more about their experiences resisting the impulse to live at the comfortable center of their own lives. How do individuals and Christian communities in our affluent culture keep their focus on God and live lives that are refreshing (like cold water) or therapeutic (hot water)?

You can go deeper with us in our study of Revelation with the books on Journey's specially curated Amazon book list for the series.

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We often read the book of Revelation unaware of the preconceptions that skew our understanding. Pastors Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, and Kevin Dixon discuss the hard work, open-mindedness, fearlessness and curiosity that they're seeking to cultivate in Journey's current Sunday Gathering series.

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Mike Erre, Suzie Line, and Tim Timmons join host Kevin Dixon to continue Sunday's discussion on understanding the genre of Revelation.

You can read more on this subject with our Amazon book list.

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The JourneyNOW roundtable team wraps up our six-week "Unbound" series. How does our view of the heart of God—truth or love—influence how we read the Bible? Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons explore the relationship between God's heart and theology. Plus, Kevin chooses truth over love when it comes to dealing with unwanted vermin on the Journey campus.

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At our Sunday Gathering, Suzie Lind put our "Unbound" series' new approach to the Bible to work. She challenged us to re-experience the story of the woman caught in adultery (John 8:1-11) as a story about Jesus instead of through the lenses of our own experiences, culture and bias. Mike Erre and Tim Timmons join her at this week's Journey NOW table to continue the conversation as a listener asks what Jesus might have written in the dust to persuade the accusers to drop their stones and walk away.

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This week's JourneyNOW crew—Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons--follows up on Sunday's "Unbound" series teaching by exploring on a listener question: "Don't we use the Bible to become more Christ-like individually in order to help the community? How do we do that in context?" 

Can the Bible apply to us on our own, or do we only make sense as Jesus followers together? And, if that's true, what does that even look like?

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The Journey NOW crew continues to explore questions from our Sunday "Unbound" series. We have been learning about the Bible as the result of a partnership between God and humanity. This week, Mike Erre and Suzie Lind join host Kevin Dixon (with a special guest appearance by Seth Erre) to consider the ideas that the Bible is authoritative or inerrant. Where did the text of our Bible actually come from? And how can we learn to read the Bible through the person of Jesus?

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On Sunday, we learned how events and rules in the Bible reflect God's accommodation to people and cultures living far from the ideals of Genesis. Tim Timmons, Mike Erre, and Suzie Lind join host Kevin Dixon to explore some of the questions we got about this new way of reading the Bible. Plus: Holy Scoby! We match kombuchas to pastor personality types. 

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On Sunday, we began a new "Unbound" series: We’re learning to appreciate the Bible, not as a single, divinely received book, but as a library of works produced through divine and human partnership. Teaching pastor Mike Erre, student pastor Rob Gonzales, and care pastor Sam Barnhart join the podcast to discuss some questions they received afterwards about behaviors that can result from misunderstanding the Bible. Plus, this week's passing of 1970s icon Olivia Newton John inspires a wave of nostalgia and Boomer trivia from host and Journey lead pastor Kevin Dixon

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On Sunday, Kristi McLelland shared the story of Moses’ mother, Jochebed. Kristi's message challenged us to think about how we give things up that are beyond our control. How do we ‘faith’ our way through these situations, surrendering with hope and not apathy? Tim Timmons and Betsy Rainey join host Kevin Dixon to explore this difficult idea, sharing their own life experiences.


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July 28, 2022


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Adam and Annie Agin share how Journey’s care team and The Refuge Center have partnered with them as they work to heal their marriage. Host Suzie Lind and Care Pastor Sam Barnhart join the conversation, following their discussion with The Refuge Center’s Amy Alexander at Sunday’s gathering.

If you need to talk about mental health issues, please contact Sam at sam@journeytn.com. This episode also mentions resources for sexual addiction, including sanashville.org and sanon.org.


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June 23, 2022


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In recent Sunday gatherings, we have been exploring the ideas of good and bad krino, the word that the Bible uses both for healthy discrimination and judgement. If we are to avoid judging others, how do we correct and disciple fellow Jesus followers? And, what does the krino concept mean for evangelism? Mike Erre and Suzie Lind join host Kevin Dixon to compare their experiences and share thoughts.

Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 or email journey@journeytn.com and join the conversation.

This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as the discussions at our current Sunday gatherings. If you're curious to learn more, join us online or live in Brentwood, Tenn. each week at 9am and 11am.


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Welcome to the conclusion of our special, three-week series, in which host Kevin Dixon invites pastors, friends and professionals to help him explore the subject of addiction. This week, Jake Smith of the Plumline Christian counseling organization describes our spiritual systems—mind, strength and heart. He and Kevin discuss what happens when these systems aren't fully developed and integrated, as well as the coping strategies that emerge to compensate for those weaknesses. Then, our final episode features Journey Elder and worship leader Tim Skipper sharing his own journey to recover and repair relationships damaged by an addiction.

Journey's HOOKED series is a direct response to the written, weekly prayers of our community. As we have read and prayed over your words, it has become clear to us that addiction affects more lives than any of us could possibly imagine. Whether that's substance abuse or a "process" addiction like pornography or gambling, we hope this series will help us our understanding and our healing.

If substance abuse or addiction is a problem, you are not alone. Please ask for help. You can call the National Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline 24 hours a day at (844) 289-0879. You can always contact Journey's pastors, too, at journey@journeytn.com or by phone, by text at (615) 861-9503 or phone Journey at (615) 490-3603. Next week: Suzie Lind and Sam Barnhart join Kevin to examine addiction's spiritual and pastoral questions.


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Welcome to the conclusion of our special, three-week series, in which host Kevin Dixon invites pastors, friends and professionals to help him explore the subject of addiction. This week, Jake Smith of the Plumline Christian counseling organization describes our spiritual systems—mind, strength and heart. He and Kevin discuss what happens when these systems aren't fully developed and integrated, as well as the coping strategies that emerge to compensate for those weaknesses. Then, our final episode features Journey Elder and worship leader Tim Skipper sharing his own journey to recover and repair relationships damaged by an addiction.

Journey's HOOKED series is a direct response to the written, weekly prayers of our community. As we have read and prayed over your words, it has become clear to us that addiction affects more lives than any of us could possibly imagine. Whether that's substance abuse or a "process" addiction like pornography or gambling, we hope this series will help us our understanding and our healing.

If substance abuse or addiction is a problem, you are not alone. Please ask for help. You can call the National Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline 24 hours a day at (844) 289-0879. You can always contact Journey's pastors, too, at journey@journeytn.com or by phone, by text at (615) 861-9503 or phone Journey at (615) 490-3603. Next week: Suzie Lind and Sam Barnhart join Kevin to examine addiction's spiritual and pastoral questions.


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Welcome to a special, three-week series, in which host Kevin Dixon invites pastors, friends and professionals to help him explore the subject of addiction. This week, Suzie Lind and Sam Barnhart join the discussion to examine the spiritual side of addiction. Part 3 focuses on the spiritual and pastoral side of battling addiction. In Part 4, they explore resources for others affected by an addiction.

Journey's HOOKED series is a direct response to the written, weekly prayers of our community. As we have read and prayed over your words, it has become clear to us that addiction affects more lives than any of us could possibly imagine. Whether that's substance abuse or a "process" addiction like pornography or gambling, we hope this series will help us our understanding and our healing.

If substance abuse or addiction is a problem, you are not alone. Please ask for help. You can call the National Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline 24 hours a day at (844) 289-0879. You can always contact Journey's pastors, too, at journey@journeytn.com or by phone, by text at (615) 861-9503 or phone Journey at (615) 490-3603. Next week: Suzie Lind and Sam Barnhart join Kevin to examine addiction's spiritual and pastoral questions.


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Welcome to a special, three-week series, in which host Kevin Dixon invites pastors, friends and professionals to help him explore the subject of addiction. This week, Suzie Lind and Sam Barnhart join the discussion to examine the spiritual side of addiction. Part 3 focuses on the spiritual and pastoral side of battling addiction. In Part 4, they explore resources for others affected by an addiction.

Journey's HOOKED series is a direct response to the written, weekly prayers of our community. As we have read and prayed over your words, it has become clear to us that addiction affects more lives than any of us could possibly imagine. Whether that's substance abuse or a "process" addiction like pornography or gambling, we hope this series will help us our understanding and our healing.

If substance abuse or addiction is a problem, you are not alone. Please ask for help. You can call the National Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline 24 hours a day at (844) 289-0879. You can always contact Journey's pastors, too, at journey@journeytn.com or by phone, by text at (615) 861-9503 or phone Journey at (615) 490-3603. Next week: Suzie Lind and Sam Barnhart join Kevin to examine addiction's spiritual and pastoral questions.


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Welcome to a special, three-week series, in which host Kevin Dixon invites pastors, friends and professionals to help him explore the subject of addiction. This week, psychologist Dave Verhaagen offers a framework for identifying addictions, and he helps us differentiate addiction from other problematic behaviors. In part two of the conversation, Dave suggests actions that those with addictions, and those around them, can take to begin to

Journey's HOOKED series is a direct response to the written, weekly prayers of our community. As we have read and prayed over your words, it has become clear to us that addiction affects more lives than any of us could possibly imagine. Whether that's substance abuse or a "process" addiction like pornography or gambling, we hope this series will help us our understanding and our healing.

If substance abuse or addiction is a problem, you are not alone. Please ask for help. You can call the National Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline 24 hours a day at (844) 289-0879. You can always contact Journey's pastors, too, at journey@journeytn.com or by phone, by text at (615) 861-9503 or phone Journey at (615) 490-3603. Next week: Suzie Lind and Sam Barnhart join Kevin to examine addiction's spiritual and pastoral questions.


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Welcome to a special, three-week series, in which host Kevin Dixon invites pastors, friends and professionals to help him explore the subject of addiction. This week, psychologist Dave Verhaagen offers a framework for identifying addictions, and he helps us differentiate addiction from other problematic behaviors. In part two of the conversation, Dave suggests actions that those with addictions, and those around them, can take to begin to

Journey's HOOKED series is a direct response to the written, weekly prayers of our community. As we have read and prayed over your words, it has become clear to us that addiction affects more lives than any of us could possibly imagine. Whether that's substance abuse or a "process" addiction like pornography or gambling, we hope this series will help us our understanding and our healing.

If substance abuse or addiction is a problem, you are not alone. Please ask for help. You can call the National Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline 24 hours a day at (844) 289-0879. You can always contact Journey's pastors, too, at journey@journeytn.com or by phone, by text at (615) 861-9503 or phone Journey at (615) 490-3603.

Next week: Suzie Lind and Sam Barnhart join Kevin to examine addiction's spiritual and pastoral questions.


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In Sunday’s message, Mike Erre introduced to the idea of “mine-ing.” It's the corrupting energy that it takes to cling to possessions—strength we no longer can use to follow Jesus. Mike and Journey’s Student Pastor, Rob Gonzalez, join host Kevin Dixon to examine this difficult teaching from the Sermon on The Mount and to examine their own relationships with money, things and generosity.

Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 or email journey@journeytn.com and join the conversation.

This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as the discussions at our current Sunday gatherings. If you're curious to learn more, join us online or live in Brentwood, Tenn. each week at 9am and 11am.


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How does it redefine our image of a good parent--and our prayers--when we pray to God as “our father?” Betsy Raney, Tim Timmons and Mike Erre join host Kevin Dixon to examine what we can learn from Jesus’ model prayer from the Sermon On The Mount. And, how does it change our image of God as a parent when Jesus says in John 14:9 that "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father?"

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This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as the discussions at our current Sunday gatherings. If you're curious to learn more, join us online or live in Brentwood, Tenn. each week at 9am and 11am.


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Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, and host Kevin Dixon explore individual and collective prayer. How do we move beyond the structure of the words and fill our prayers with meaning and intimacy?

Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 or email journey@journeytn.com and join the conversation.

This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as the discussions at our current Sunday gatherings. If you're curious to learn more, join us online or live in Brentwood, Tenn. each week at 9am and 11am.


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Jesus tells his followers not to pray, give or fast in public where their actions will be seen by others. Instead, they should be done in secret where only God will see. Mike Erre, Suzie Lind, and host Kevin Dixon answer questions from a recent message on this subject explore what this means for how we live our day-to-day Christian lives in public and in private.

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This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as the discussions at our current Sunday gatherings. If you're curious to learn more, join us online or live in Brentwood, Tenn. each week at 9am and 11am.


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To understand Jesus’ Upside Down Kingdom, we have to start with what the phrase "Kingdom of God" actually means. Is it something that’s coming in the future, or is it already here? Is the Church God’s Kingdom? Mike Erre joins host Kevin Dixon to consider different views of the Kingdom of God and how that affects the way we read the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7).

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This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as the discussions at our current Sunday gatherings. If you're curious to learn more, join us online or live in Brentwood, Tenn. each week at 9am and 11am.


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Suzie Lind and Kevin Dixon share their practices, life experiences in the week leading up to Easter—and the significance of pausing and living completely into this time.

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Kevin, Mike, and Suzie have a conversation around grace in response to a question from the Gathering on Sunday: "What would you say to one who has worked to tear down their 'tower' through counseling/spiritual healing in order for them to build it back up in a healthier way?' Also, what is grace, anyway? Are the definitions we have sufficient for grace? How do we live into the grace we've been given and into who we already are in Christ?

Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 or email journey@journeytn.com and join the conversation.

This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as the discussions at our current Sunday gatherings. If you're curious to learn more, join us online or live in Brentwood, Tenn. each week at 9am and 11am.


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With apologies to classic rock fans, Jesus' Sermon on The Mount teaches us that love is more than a feeling. Suzie Lind and Mike Erre join host Kevin Dixon to explore questions from our current teaching series, the Upside Down Kingdom. This week, a question about love and shame leads them into a discussion of how different Jesus' idea of love is from our common, pop-cultural understanding. So, how can we rid ourselves of cultural biases and hear His message as it was intended?

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This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as the discussions at our current Sunday gatherings. If you're curious to learn more, join us online or live in Brentwood, Tenn. each week at 9am and 11am.


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Suzie Lind and Alyssa McNally join host Kevin Dixon to share their own personal journeys of discovering—and re-thinking—their own faith.

This season’s conversations are inspired by the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, as well as our current teaching series.

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What does it mean when Jesus cautions us in his "Upside Down Kingdom" not to attach God's name to empty things (Matthew 5:33-37). As we learned in Sunday's Gathering, it's easy--and tempting--to invoke God when express our own opinions and desires. Phrases like "I have a word for you," "God told me" and "we are being led" can become tools of religious power and manipulation. Where does that leave us, though, when we really do have visions and hear God's voice? Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Tim Timmons share some of their own experiences as they explore these questions.

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Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Mike Erre take a deeper look at the first of three world power structures that Jesus flipped: Economic power.

If you're interested in learning more about the Upside Down Kingdom, join us for our Sunday gatherings and for Kevin's 11am Sunday discussion groups. You can also read the book, "Upside Down Kingdom," by Donald Kraybill, which has been the inspiration for all of our conversations this Spring.

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Journey NOW debuts its fifth season with a companion series to our study of the Upside Down Kingdom in current gatherings and in Kevin Dixon's 11:00am class. Understanding Jesus' radically reversed reality is hard. It's even harder applying those principles to every part of our lives. In this premier episode, Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and host Kevin Dixon examine the three right-side-up worldly power structures that Jesus rejected.

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Fresh off a songwriting retreat, Worship Pastor Tim Timmons is rethinking prayer with the NOW roundtable team. So often, our worship and prayer becomes rote. What should the Church really be praying about together in this time? How would that change our hearts, our community and the world?

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Meet Journey’s newest staff member, Betsy Raney, as she joins youth pastor Rob Gonzalez and host Kevin Dixon to share how they each have been formed by their backgrounds and generational differences. How do those factors, along with recent culture shifts, shape their worldview and their hospitality towards others? Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 or email journey@journeytn.com and join the conversation.


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The NOW roundtable panelists welcome 2022 with resolutions to find new ways to welcome all to their tables in the coming year. But, how do you establish unity amid disagreements. And, when is it okay to give up on relationships?

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On this special episode of JourneyNOW, Krista Barre joins host Suzie Lind. As Krista begins serving as a Journey Elder, she reflects on her family’s nine years at Journey and what she has learned about the love, wonder and grace of God. You can email Krista at kristabarre@yahoo.com.

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On Sunday, we explored Mary’s cost for saying ‘yes’ to God. Journey’s roundtable discussion panel brings that calculation to their own lives: Is God truly safe when saying ‘yes’ to Him can wreak chaos? What does it mean to say ‘no’ to God? Can we truly thwart His plans for us or others? And, how do our plans and will relate to God’s plans, anyway?

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What can we learn from Matthew’s lineage of Jesus, which Pastor Mike Erre explored at last Sunday’s gathering? The Journey NOW panelists look more closely at Jesus’ family tree in the light of an ancient patriarchal culture. Those surprising stories of sin, redemption and surprising honor help us re-imagine our own stories of adoption into that family. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 or email journey@journeytn.com and join the conversation.


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So often in life’s painful moments, we feel at a loss for understanding. On Sunday, we explored three possible explanations for unanswered prayer, the most satisfying of which is: “We don’t know.”

The JourneyNOW roundtable panel continues that discussion, asking how and why we pray when God holds the outcome of our lives.

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In a world where strength is valued, scripture tells us that God does his best work through human weakness. The JourneyNOW roundtable panel takes a closer look at how weakness lives in all of us and what it means to embrace that reality. 

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In this special Thanksgiving edition of JourneyNOW, Chase Ezell talks with host Suzie Lind about discovering Journey during the pandemic and now hosting monthly dinner gatherings of The Table. What he’s learned in the gospel according to Chase: Don't be afraid and just show up. Every month, Journey people gather around tables to share a meal together. Though it can feel intimidating to show up at someone's house for dinner, we think it's the best way for strangers to become friends. Join us on December 5th by visiting journeytn.com/events to register.

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The Holy Spirit has been the least discussed—and most misunderstood—of God’s three persons. Not just a secret power or a Funky Phantom, the promise of the Holy Spirit is more about presence with us than anything He does.

As we explore this topic in a new series, the Journey NOW roundtable crew asks what it means to have the presence of the Holy Spirit in our daily lives. How does it look to have strength in our weakness?

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In a recent Sunday gathering, we practiced naming the people and groups toward whom we hold contemptuous judgment. God transforms our hearts when we are honest before Him, and He can empower us to love and stay in relationship with some of the people we whom we most disagree. On this special Journey Now episode, Suzie Lind talks with Lamont Turner. He shares his story growing up in the predominately white community of Franklin, Tenn. and building bridges with people to move the Kingdom and our communities forward.

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We are all in “vocational ministry,” regardless of our profession, with a calling to love and serve Jesus through our work. So, if we're all on staff for the Big-C Church, what does that look like as we meet in community and live out our individual lives?

Join the conversation and let us know about your staff position in Jesus' Church. Is it to raise kids? Work in health care? Marketing? Are you a songwriter? A teacher? Text us at 615-861-9503 or email us at journey@journeytn.com and share your calling with us. We would love the privilege of praying for you and blessing you in your work.This week we wrap up our round table conversations on what it means to be a Follower of the Way.


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How does the rest of our culture regard the Church? What attracts them to our movement, and what drives them away? Special guest Silas Lind joins the regular NOW roundtable panel to explore how the world engages Christ followers. As a high school senior, Silas brings a unique generational perspective to how the Church is perceived. We’d love to hear your thoughts and questions. Join the conversation by texting us at (615) 861-9503 or emailing journey@journeytn.com.


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The NOW roundtable team reflects on the parable of wheat and weeds and why Jesus told his followers to care for the field instead of taking it upon themselves to start uprooting plants. What does that look like for us as a community? Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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What do we miss--and who do we marginalize--when we misread the Bible? In a recent Sunday gathering, we learned how scripture describes the Church as a radical restructuring of the ideal Roman household and society. This week's Journey NOW roundtable panel asks what it means to live out that ideal. And, they reflect on the damage caused when famous passages such as Ephesians 5 are read as instructions for Christian families instead of as a model for the Church.

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Do we misunderstand scripture when we apply modern, Western, individualist ideas to it? Journey NOW's roundtable panel discusses Suzie Lind's Sunday message on The Bride of Christ. How should we understand that phrase, and what does it mean for all of us to be the bride?

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The Journey Roundtable kicks off a new season today discussing the corporate identity of "The Body of Christ." As followers of the way, our hope is to look at these snapshots of how the New Testament conceives of our gathering together (not just in church) and places us in the world. 

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Justice. Social Justice. There are so many buzz words that trigger Christians one way or another out of concern for forsaking the gospel. Around the table today, the panel discusses what justice is and isn't and how we can thoughtfully engage in the current conversations and work around bringing shalom. Then, Suzie Lind chats with Laura Day about what it's like to be a person with disability in community.

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Hypocrisy. Fallen leaders. Broken trust. The invasion of politics into religion. Despite all the reasons for people to reject Christian institutions, Journey NOW’s roundtable panel talks about their hope for the Church as God’s temple. Then, Carla Hendricks joins Suzie Lind in our interview segment to discuss her work as a volunteer advocate team leader for the non-profit Court Appointed Special Advocates (CASA) for Children in Nashville.

You can volunteer or learn more about CASA’s work with foster children in Nashville.

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How many Jesus followers actually believe in loving all our neighbors? How many of us practice that? In this special, extended roundtable edition, Anthony Hendricks joins the panel to talk about his upcoming Journey class, Beyond Race. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.

Registration is now open online for Anthony's class, which begins October 3.

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Misquoting the Bible is a bi-partisan  political tradition as old as kissing babies and speeches at Labor Day picnics. Journey Now’s roundtable crew asks why our leaders keep trying to quote scripture—and messing up the message. Should we expect better? Is this just pandering, or do these moments reveal more about the hearts and minds of the political speaker?

In this episode’s second half, Journey Now elder Ty Hasty shares how his non-profit, service trip organization, IC13, has continued to make a difference in the time of COVID. Suzie Lind hosts the discussion.

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A postcard arrived in many local mailboxes this week advertising a Christian rally to stop the moral decline of America. That got our roundtable panel talking: Is America in moral decline? Should the church be defining morals? And, what, if any, is the church’s role in standing athwart history and yelling “stop?” 

Then, in Suzie Lind’s interview segment, pastor Brittany Park of Remembrance Community Church shares what she’s learning about rest as she visits Nashville on a sabbatical.

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How should we prepare ourselves for difficult discussions? Mike Erre leads the Journey Roundtable team in a conversation about the ways we can overcome self-righteousness and condescension when we engage those who with whom we disagree. Then, as Journey focuses on prayer this week, Suzie Lind replays a favorite interview with Cindy Helton, host of The Daily Still podcast. Cindy shares her experience practicing and leading Christian meditation, and she shares a guided prayer with us.

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What’s the purpose of prayer, and how should we view it and practice it? The roundtable group discusses their experiences. Then, Kevin Dixon and Suzie Lind talk about power and abuse in the Church. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Sometimes, the hardest person to forgive can be yourself. The Journey Roundtable team follows a Sunday message on forgiveness with a more in-depth discussion about self-forgiveness. In the show's second half, Suzie Lind talks with Donna Hawkins about her upcoming September 17-18 Hope workshop for those recovering from painful experiences. Find out more about the weekend at Hurt2Hope.org. Registration for the event will be available soon on that same website, and you can learn more about Caring Resources at: CaringResources.com. 

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A listener asks our roundtable panel: How can we know the Bible is true and complete? Then, it’s date night with the Linds, as Suzie and Steve talk with their good friends, Dave and Victory Ludwig about the connection that grew from a weekly “date night” swap in which they took turns watching each other's kids. After years, the result has been stronger relationships and deep friendships.

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News has never before had such an informal relationship with the truth. How can Jesus followers engage online responsibly, and what obligations do we have to dig deeper on the facts before we retweet, repost, like or love? The Journey NOW roundtable gang takes on gossip in a Facebook age. Then, Matt and Sarah Hammitt join Suzie Lind to talk about working through grief and conflict in the face of suffering. Their third child, Bowen, was born more than 10 years ago with hypo plastic left heart syndrome, a condition in which half of the heart is severely underdeveloped.

Read more at the Hammitt’s blog, bowensheart.com, where you can also learn more about the Hammitt’s foundation, their recent documentary feature and a recent appearance on Good Morning America.

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What is hell, and why would a loving God want you, your loved ones—or even those who never encountered Him in their lives on Earth—to be banished there? Host Mike Erre and the Journey roundtable panel look at competing views of the afterlife and try to reconcile them with their own understanding of Jesus.

In our interview segment, Fran Maynard of Tennessee Alliance for Kids shares a difficult upbringing that led to amazing experiences as an adoptive and foster parent—and to her current non-profit work. Tennessee Alliance for Kids works with government agencies and community members to support foster families, as well as those trying to stay intact or work towards reunification. Learn more about volunteering or making donations to Tennessee Alliance for Kids at their website’s Get Involved page.

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Should Christians take up arms in the culture wars? Kevin Dixon returns to the roundtable this week to discuss this week’s hot topic with Mike Erre and Alyssa McNally. In the episode’s second half, Suzie Lind introduces her husband, Steve Lind, who shares his faith journey. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Christian recording artist Matthew West recently removed his satire song of advice to his daughter, “Modest Is Hottest,” after a fierce online backlash. Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Alyssa McNally unwrap the burden and hurt inside overzealous modesty culture. Then, Suzie Lind interviews Jake Smith, president of the spiritual retreats company and counseling company, Plumline.

Learn more about Jake and Plumline at the group’s website and Jake’s Instagram (@goplumline).

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This week’s roundtable panel deconstructs the idea of religious deconstruction. More than just a buzzword, it’s a practice that encourages followers to question the cultural influences, biases and personal context that they bring to their belief. Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Daniel Jones lead the conversation. Then, Suzie Lind talks with psychologist Dr. Eboni Webb about how family experiences and faith inform her professional practice  together at The Village of Kairos.  Learn more about Dr. Eboni Webb and her practice at The Village of Kairos.  Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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If healthy things grow, why wouldn’t we use megachurches as models for Journey? One-time mega staffer Mike Erre joins Suzie Lind and Alyssa McNally to examine whether size matters and how Journey hopes to keep its focus on following Jesus. Later, Suzie talks with Journey Care Pastor Sam Barnhart about his experiences as a musician and pastor—and how he’s combining those pursuits for the first-ever JourneyFest music festival on July 17. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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As Journey volunteers prepare to participate in local Juneteenth events, the Journey NOW roundtable panel examines how we can separate political division from standing in unity with all people. In the second half of this episode, NOW regular Alyssa McNally talks with Suzie Lind about growing up as a pastor’s kid and the working out of an inclusive, loving faith from her religious roots. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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It's the Gospel According to Marketing: Mike Erre and his roundtable panel react to a new, special-edition “God Bless The USA Bible,” set to be released on the 20th anniversary of the September 11 attacks. Later in the episode, newlyweds Toria Seetaram and Patrick Drury talk with Suzie Lind about how they’re forging a faith together from different religious backgrounds and family histories.Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Can a church get too big? And what happens when celebrity, money and scrutiny grow along with attendance? Mike Erre and his Journey NOW roundtable group react to a recent TV interview with Hillsong Church founder Brian Houston. Then, in the NOW interview segment, Suzie Lind talks with worship leader Ethan Hulse about his struggles with anxiety. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Amid a recent outbreak of violence between Palestinian Gaza and Israel, the Journey roundtable group considers how Christians should feel about the conflict. Mike Erre welcomes Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Alyssa McNally to the table. Later in the episode, Journey Student Pastor Rob Gonzalez shares his difficult family history and how he now is learning to rely on God, the father. Suzie Lind hosts the conversation. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Cindy Helton, host of The Daily Still podcast, shares her experiences practicing and leading Christian meditation with Suzie Lind. And, in the first half of the episode, Mike Erre and the roundtable panel discuss women in ministry.

Listen to The Daily Still on Apple’s podcast app.

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In our interview segment, Christina Butler shares her journey through doubt, anger, questioning and reconstructing a faith with Suzie Lind. Prior to that, Mike Erre and his roundtable panel consider a recent controversial tweet by a famous Christian pastor and public intellectual. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Host Mike Erre and the Journey roundtable panel of Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Alyssa McNally and Tim Timmons respond to an email asking why churches can’t just stick to the Bible and avoid controversial current topics. Then, Suzie Lind talks with Worship Designer Katelyn Hill about her growth as a Journey staffer as Katelyn transitions out of her role. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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When can following Jesus mean not following the law? Host Mike Erre and the roundtable crew take a closer look at the intersection of Christianity and civil disobedience. Later, Suzie Lind talks with Daniel Jones and John Hill about what it truly means to love your neighbor. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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After a heartbreaking week of gun violence, Pastor Mike Erre and the JourneyNOW roundtable group explore whether there's a Christian position on guns, gun control and violence. In the second half of the show, Pastor Suzie Lind talks with three friends from California--Mena Hughes, Todd Doram and Melanie Anderson--about race and reconciliation. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Suzie Lind talks with Edwin Rivera III about the connection that comes from his bourbon and cigars gatherings. Edwin also shares his loss and learning as a musician in pandemic times. In the roundtable segment, Pastor Mike Erre cites recent polls about declining church membership and asks the Journey Now panel whether that’s a bad thing. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Pastor Mike Erre launches season three of Journey Now with a roundtable discussion featuring Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind, Tim Timmons and Alyssa McNally. Then, Samantha Schaumberg shares her unconventional path into foster parenting with Suzie. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Dave Verhaagen and Lauren King of Southeast Psych join host Suzie Lind to describe how the four different psychological attachment styles help to define our relationships with God. Mentioned in this episode: Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment and How It Can Help You Find and Keep Love. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Join pastors Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Mike Erre as they explore the meaning of the crucifixion and resurrection as told by the four Gospel writers, as well as its parallels to the Old Testament and Passover. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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At Journey, we focus on ways to invite people to draw close to Jesus, not lists of rules and restrictions. Think of it as digging wells for the thirsty instead of fences to contain the flock. But what happens when that heart collides with all the nuance and difficulty of real-life counseling. Suzie Lind, Sam Barnhart and Kevin Dixon join host Grant Opperman to explore their convictions. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Hilary Timmons shares a faith journey that began as an effort to believe all the right things and grew into accepting Jesus' open arms and grace. Pastor Mike Erre hosts the conversation. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Brian Williams shares his emotional and spiritual journey as he searched for God's plan in his life as an adopted child. Pastor Suzie Lind hosts. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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The Theology Thursday team--pastors Mike Erre, Suzie Lind and Kevin Dixon--wrap up Journey's "What Remains" series by answering some of the questions from our community. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Hospitality and shared meals are key activities and metaphors in the Bible and here at Journey. As gatherings become possible again, we remember tables from the past and dream about new fellowship. Suzie Lind and Kevin Dixon join host Grant Opperman. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Tim Timmons' 10000 Minutes challenges us to spend the week living into a Jesus definition of winning that's radically different from than the one that serves our own purposes. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Mike Erre concludes his conversation with Pastor Suzie Lind by exploring her story as a teacher and church leader. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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In this special episode, host Suzie Lind asks Pastor Mike Erre about his own doubts and faith journey. (Part one of the conversation aired on Monday, March 15. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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The Theology Thursday pastors--Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Mike Erre--explain what baptism means to them and how Journey practices the ordinance. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Disney / Pixar’s new animated film, “Soul,” debuted on Christmas Day to huge acclaim (95% on the Tomatometer) and big streaming numbers. Creative, funny and surprisingly deep, the movie explores some of life’s biggest questions: What is a soul, and where does it come from? What’s the meaning of life and the definition of a successful one? What happens before we’re born and after we die? And, the toughest question of them all: Is it really worth it to subscribe to yet another streaming app? Pastors Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Suzie Lind join Grant Opperman for a little soul searching. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.

To go deeper with this subject, visit The Bible Project's "nephesh" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_igCcWAMAM


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10000 Minutes Tuesday host Tim Timmons reflects on questions from Sunday: Why did Jesus have to die? And what does it mean in our lives this week if God’s project is alive in us? Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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In this special Mike Mondays episode, Pastor Suzie Lind takes over as host to ask Mike Erre about his own doubts and faith journey. (Part two of the conversation will air on Friday, March 19. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Mark Campbell of Room In The Inn talks with Suzie Lind about finding his calling at the homeless support organization and how Journey is partnering with him in that work.  Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Mike Erre explain Journey's "open table" communion practice on today's Theology Thursday episode. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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In this special Journey Roundtable, Brett Mabury, Vian Izak and Sam Barnhart talk with Kevin Dixon about a new initiative to help mentor emerging musicians. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Tim Timmons talks with this week's 10000 Minutes guest, Journey worship musician Toby Friesen, about what ministry means in all our daily lives. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Does faith have to be at odds with science? Pastor Mike Erre welcomes medical oncologist Scott Haake to help him question this conventional view. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Enneagram expert Katie Haseltine explains the power of the popular personality and interpersonal typing system. Part two of a two-part conversation. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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The Theology Thursday pastors--Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Mike Erre--explore how the body of Christ is realized in local churches all over the world. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Pastors Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon and Suzie Lind talk with host Grant Opperman about a Journey listener’s question, “Do you believe in a literal hell.” Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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In this week’s 10000 Minutes, Tim Timmons and Josh Kluge ask what it’s like for each of them to give of themselves out of love versus fear. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Tyler Ward talks to Pastor Mike Erre about his struggle to overcome legalistic pride and hypocrisy. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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The Lent season can be a powerful time for prayer and reflection. Katie Haseltine shares her experience with The Examen, an ancient Church practice dating back to St. Ignatius. Part one of a two-part conversation. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Theology Thursday's team of pastors--Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Suzie Lind--discuss the body of Christ. It's all people of faith in all cultures over all time (not Universalism). So, how does that diversity square with the idea of unity? Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Can it be coincidence that America’s Declaration of Independence was created in the same year as the capitalist bible, Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations? How did American Christianity lead to our worship of the almighty dollar? And, as Jesus followers can we love our neighbors while pursuing our self interest? We look at the ideas in the new book, “Religion And the Rise of Capitalism” and examine whether the Good News can coexist with a “greed is good” economy. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Tim and Hilary Timmons reflect on the idea that God sees and judges. If there's freedom in being completely seen, how should we spend the 10000 Minutes of our week? Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Is God's will an absolute and singular plan for our lives, from which any deviation causes pain? Or, is the will of God more complex than that, working good from many different situations and choices? Amanda Auer and Mike Erre share their experiences and understanding. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Elizabeth Madeira joins Pastor Suzie Lind to share the faith and experiences that led her to run for political office, as a 2020 candidate Tennessee State Representative for District 63. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Who is the Spirit of God and how are we filled with the Spirit? How are we baptised in the Spirit and recipients of Spiritual Gifting? "TheologyThursday" pastors--Mike Erre, Kevin Dixon and Suzie Lind--conclude their series on the Trinity. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Nowhere in the Bible does it say 'Thou shalt not swear,' although God does command followers not to misuse his name. So, why has Christianity legalistically tied itself to subbing in guldarnnit, fudge and the like for the exclamations that the rest of pop culture uses? Join Suzie Lind, Rob Gonzalez, Sam Barnhart and Kevin Dixon and host Grant Opperman as they take a danged serious look at swearing in America--and how we, as Christians, should feel about the whole $%!# situation. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Alyssa McNally and Pastor Mike Erre cast a skeptical eye on the Christian cliche that "men are superior to women and are the only ones who should lead at church." Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Formation Friday host Suzie Lind talks to Anthony Hendricks about his personal and church history. It's a story of becoming fed up with churches in pursuit of a life authentically following Jesus. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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The Theology Thursday pastors--Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Mike Erre--continue their exploration of the persons and characteristics of God with Jesus. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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This week, our culture celebrated stylized warfare with football's annual Big Game. So, join Sam Barnhart, Rob Gonzalez, Kevin Dixon and host Grant Opperman as we talk about sports, gambling and and violence on the Journey NOW Wednesday roundtable edition.  Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Bart Millard joins Tim Timmons on this week's 10000 Minutes podcast to discuss the balance between an active faith and depending on God. Their experiences are a long way from the Christian platitude to "Let go and let God." Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Self-described authority skeptic J Hall joins pastor Mike Erre to cast a critical eye on this week's "Mike Mondays" topic: Is God really in control of everything? Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Psychologist and Journey community member Dave Verhaagen helps Suzie Lind set some guidelines for difficult conversations in divided times (part two of a two-part series). Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.

Notes from today's conversation:

10 Principles of Talking to Friends, Family Members, Other Christians

  1. Be clear about your goal - and decide whether it is noble and achievable. Is it to change a mind? Express your anger? Help the oppressed? Go on record? Some goals are better than others. State your goal clearly and in words in your mind before you decide to engage.

  2. It’s okay not to talk - sometimes this is the wise decision. The idea that it is cowardly not to always engage is false and unwise.

  3. Choose relationship over “rightness” - 80% of Americans say they have “very few or no friends" who are different from them politically. We will only get more polarized and divided if we allow ourselves to cut off those who think differently than we do.

  4. Don’t make it personal - if you decide to engage, use "I" statements more than "You" statements. ("I was wondering about...," "I was concerned about...," or "Help me understand...," not "You are racist," "You hate this country," etc.)

  5. Talk in person, not over social media - social media debates go nowhere good. Don't use your platforms to engage in angry or contentious debates.

  6. Speak to the deeper issue - usually fear and safety (STUDY: Genie study (300 adults) - imagine: 1/2 group genie - able to fly; 1/2 group genie - completely safe, invulnerable to harm. "Fly" group - no change in conservative/liberal divide; conservatives endorsed more conservative issues, resistant to social change; "Invulnerable" group - social attitudes (toward women, gays, minorities, immigrants) shifted, became more open to social change); however, sometimes it can be uglier - collective narcissism

  7. Think win/win - what do they want, what do you want? Is there common ground to be found? Can the discussion be framed in a way that looks at the good things each party wants? This doesn't mean you have to agree that all attitudes or positions are the same or equally right, but it can mean that there might be underlying desires that are good and noble and can be spoken to in the interaction.

  8. Be genuinely curious about the other person - listen well, have empathy; what led them here? (their context, their echo chamber, their own psychology)

  9. Realize people can be biased without knowing it - Implicit Association Test, Dunning-Kruger effect, Broken Patterns research. Because of this, they may be truly upset and angry at the suggestion they hold biased attitudes because this is not how they view themselves.

  10. Stick up for the oppressed - if you need criteria about when you should speak or act, this is it, but do it strategically (don't just be the person who posts the angry screed on social media or angrily cuts off disagreeing family members, and so on). Use the other principles to enter into conversation or engagement if their attitudes or actions can have a harmful effect on the powerless.

Recommended Books:

White Too Long - Robert P. Jones - a must-read for all Christians about the church's long history of complicity in racism in the U.S.

The Color of Compromise & How to Fight Racism - both books by Jemar Tisby are vital reading.

How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie - a timeless book on the strategy and skill of truly engaging people and building relationships.

Don't Label Me: An Incredible Conversation for Divided Times - Irshad Manji - lays out a mindset about how to enter into these relationships and interactions. Not from a Christian perspective, but with some deep wisdom that is helpful.


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Kevin Dixon, Suzie Lind and Mike Erre discuss the personality and attributes of God—and what that means for who we are and our circumstances. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Ever hear someone say that they love Jesus but not Christian music? Journey's Brett Mabury, Katelyn Hill, Sam Barnhart, Tim Timmons and Wednesday Roudtable host Grant Opperman explore some of the best music that's being made in 2021--and dream of how Christian and worship music might be even richer. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Tuesday's "10000 Minutes" host Tim Timmons and his guest, David Gundlach, examine the Christian cliche "God said it. I believe it. That settles it." Does that simple formula accurately and fully reflect the daily practices that we are called to as Jesus followers?  Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Christians are sometimes taught that emotions have no value in faith and that they should just learn the word of God. Pastor Mike Erre and guest Tim Skipper challenge that view and explore the place of emotions in spiritual growth. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Psychologist and Journey community member Dave Verhaagen helps Suzie Lind set some guidelines for difficult conversations in divided times (part one of a two-part series). Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.

Notes from today's conversation:

10 Principles of Talking to Friends, Family Members, Other Christians

  1. Be clear about your goal - and decide whether it is noble and achievable. Is it to change a mind? Express your anger? Help the oppressed? Go on record? Some goals are better than others. State your goal clearly and in words in your mind before you decide to engage.

  2. It’s okay not to talk - sometimes this is the wise decision. The idea that it is cowardly not to always engage is false and unwise.

  3. Choose relationship over “rightness” - 80% of Americans say they have “very few or no friends" who are different from them politically. We will only get more polarized and divided if we allow ourselves to cut off those who think differently than we do.

  4. Don’t make it personal - if you decide to engage, use "I" statements more than "You" statements. ("I was wondering about...," "I was concerned about...," or "Help me understand...," not "You are racist," "You hate this country," etc.)

  5. Talk in person, not over social media - social media debates go nowhere good. Don't use your platforms to engage in angry or contentious debates.

  6. Speak to the deeper issue - usually fear and safety (STUDY: Genie study (300 adults) - imagine: 1/2 group genie - able to fly; 1/2 group genie - completely safe, invulnerable to harm. "Fly" group - no change in conservative/liberal divide; conservatives endorsed more conservative issues, resistant to social change; "Invulnerable" group - social attitudes (toward women, gays, minorities, immigrants) shifted, became more open to social change); however, sometimes it can be uglier - collective narcissism

  7. Think win/win - what do they want, what do you want? Is there common ground to be found? Can the discussion be framed in a way that looks at the good things each party wants? This doesn't mean you have to agree that all attitudes or positions are the same or equally right, but it can mean that there might be underlying desires that are good and noble and can be spoken to in the interaction.

  8. Be genuinely curious about the other person - listen well, have empathy; what led them here? (their context, their echo chamber, their own psychology)

  9. Realize people can be biased without knowing it - Implicit Association Test, Dunning-Kruger effect, Broken Patterns research. Because of this, they may be truly upset and angry at the suggestion they hold biased attitudes because this is not how they view themselves.

  10. Stick up for the oppressed - if you need criteria about when you should speak or act, this is it, but do it strategically (don't just be the person who posts the angry screed on social media or angrily cuts off disagreeing family members, and so on). Use the other principles to enter into conversation or engagement if their attitudes or actions can have a harmful effect on the powerless.

Recommended Books:

White Too Long - Robert P. Jones - a must-read for all Christians about the church's long history of complicity in racism in the U.S.

The Color of Compromise & How to Fight Racism - both books by Jemar Tisby are vital reading.

How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie - a timeless book on the strategy and skill of truly engaging people and building relationships.

Don't Label Me: An Incredible Conversation for Divided Times - Irshad Manji - lays out a mindset about how to enter into these relationships and interactions. Not from a Christian perspective, but with some deep wisdom that is helpful.


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Theology Thursday pastors Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Suzie Lind explore the mystery of one God who exists in three persons. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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The inauguration of a new President, as we recently saw, comes with lots of pomp, circumstance, ceremony and ritual. As Jesus followers, how should we commemorate secular events like this, as well as religious ones? How can ceremony be meaningful, and how is it corrupted? Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Matt Hammitt and Tim Timmons share some of their times of tough challenge and offer some "Ten Thousand Minutes" practices that have been more helpful to them than Christian platitudes like "God is in control." Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Is questioning accepted Christian doctrine unspiritual, divisive—or even demonic? Pastor Mike Erre and Daniel Jones examine whether faith can be expressed in the form of a question. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Professor, Bible teacher and speaker Kristi McLelland shares the pain and loss she experienced in 2020 with Formation Friday host Suzie Lind. That hard year, she says, formed the strength and courage that's now fueling her 2021. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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What does it mean that our God is relational? Pastors Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and host Kevin Dixon examine the idea of a God who is both transcendent and present in our lives. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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As a divided nation celebrates Martin Luther King Day this week, pastors Mike Erre and Suzie Lind talk to Anthony Hendricks and Stephanie Mechem about Journey's Bibilical Unity group. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503.


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What does it look like to spend the 10,000 minutes of your week seeing and valuing all the diversity and colors of God's Church? Emmoe Doniz, Rob Gonzalez and Daniel Jones talk with host Tim Timmons about their experiences and insights. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Journey's Lucius Patenaude joins Mike Erre to question whether those from outside a heteronormative framework are destined for hell. What does the Bible has to say about homosexuality? How do we wrestle with that? And why do we think about it differently than other practices that the Bible condemns, such as infidelity and divorce? Mature topics: Parental guidance suggested. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Formation Friday: Pastor Suzie Lind talks with Brad Perry of The Public about growing up in Franklin and forming a faith in the midst of racial inequality, oppression and a slaveholder family history. Further resources for today's conversation: Footnotes with Jemar Tisby. Pass the Mic. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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Does God really exist? Is He active in our world? Pastors Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Suzie Lind examine why we believe that there's a God in today's Theology Thursday episode. Got comments or questions? Text us at (615) 861-9503 and join the conversation.


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With rations of COVID-19 vaccine in short supply, and plenty of Americans still worried about side effects, we ask what love for our neighbors require of us as Christians? Suzie Lind, Mike Erre and Kevin Dixon join host Grant Opperman for a discussion.


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How can we move beyond Christian platitudes like "God won't give you more than you can handle?" as we live through suffering? Tim Timmons shares his thoughts in this week's "10 Thousand Minutes" practice.


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Journey musician and community member Ethan Hulse and Teaching Pastor Mike Erre cast some doubt on the old phrase that "the body and its desires are wicked." Mature topics: Parental guidance suggested.


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Formation isn't just a Beyonce song. Or a class for Christians. Or a mission to go on. At Journey, spiritual formation is about how we align ourselves with God and live out our true identities in Christ. It's also the idea behind our new "Formation Fridays." Brett Mabury, Tim Timmons and Sam Barnhart talk with host Suzie Lind about what spiritual formation means in their lives.


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Pastors Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Suzie Lind debut their "Theology Thursday" series by asking what it means to untangle cultural practices, examine who God is and what we believe and build a cohesive theology.


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Disney / Pixar’s new animated film, “Soul,” debuted on Christmas Day to huge acclaim (95% on the Tomatometer) and big streaming numbers. Creative, funny and surprisingly deep, the movie explores some of life’s biggest questions: What is a soul, and where does it come from? What’s the meaning of life and the definition of a successful one? What happens before we’re born and after we die? And, the toughest question of them all: Is it really worth it to subscribe to yet another streaming app? Pastors Kevin Dixon, Mike Erre and Suzie Lind join Grant Opperman for a little soul searching. To go deeper with this subject, we recommend The Bible Project's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_igCcWAMAM


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Tim Timmons' "Ten Thousand Minutes" invitation is to push through the quest for “Going back to Normal” and walk into a new season with a new and grander expectation. EXPECT GOD (in all circumstances).


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In this first “Mike Mondays” installment, Savannah Locke joins pastor Mike Erre to question Christian teaching on sin, suffering and hell. How can these terrifying concepts square with God’s love story for us?


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