Medical Education Matters: Recent Episodes

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In this episode of MEDICC, hosts Jeff Amundson and Anita Bublik-Anderson talk with Lori Rodefeld, Director of Rural GME Development & Support at the Wisconsin Collaborative for Rural Graduate Medical Education.

What is WCRGME? "The Wisconsin Collaborative for Rural Graduate Medical Education (WCRGME) was established in 2012 to address the shortage of rural primary care physicians through the expansion of rural graduate medical education (GME). It is a network of organizations developing and maintaining rural residency rotations, rural training residency programs, and rural fellowships. " And you can learn more at their website: https://www.wcrgme.org/about-us

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Guest: Lori Rodefeld (https://www.wcrgme.org/about-us)

Hosts: Jeff Amundson, PhD, and Anita Bublik-Anderson, MD

Producers: Jeff Amundson and Michael Braun

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Dr. Herodotos Ellinas hosts a conversation with University of Wisconsin-Milwakee Chancellor Dr. Mark Mone. They discuss leadership and the path to administrative work for educators; diversity, equity, and inclusion programs in higher education; UWM's Freshwater Collaborative; and vegan cooking!

Read more about the Freshwater Collaborative and UWM's School of Freshwater Sciences here: https://uwm.edu/freshwater/

Guest: Mark Mone, PhD (https://uwm.edu/chancellor/about/)

Host: Herodotos Ellinas, MD, MHPE

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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Just like the rest of the world, we here at Medical Education Matters are thinking a lot about the role technology can/does/will play in medical education. Today's conversation is with Dr. George Kubik, futurist, president and chief researcher at the Anticipatory Futures Group, and lecturer at the University of Minnesota. We talk about the future of education, AI and technology's role in it, all with an eye solidly on the lessons of history.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Guests: George Kubik, PhD (https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-kubik-6147031/)

Hosts: Jeff Amundson, PhD; Michael T. Braun, PhD

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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Just like the rest of the world, we here at Medical Education Matters are thinking a lot about the role technology can/does/will play in medical education. Today's topic is the role of AI in medical education. We speak with University of Copenhagen professor of Medical Education Dr. Martin G. Tolsgaard, co-author of the recent article, "The fundamentals of Artificial Intelligence in medical education research" published in 2023 in the journal Medical Teacher.

Find the article here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36862064/

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Guests: Martin G. Tolsgaard, PhD, Dr. Med. Sci., Professor of Medical Education, University of Copenhagen (https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-g-tolsgaard-09197341/)

Hosts: Herodotos Ellinas, MD, MHPE; Anita Bublik-Anderson, MD; Jeff Amundson, PhD

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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Just like the rest of the world, we here at Medical Education Matters are thinking a lot about the role technology can/does/will play in medical education. Today's technology up for consideration is AI text generators and large language models (LLMs) like Chat-GPT and Google Bard. We talk with University of Minnesota's Dr. Clare Forstie from the Center for Educational Excellence about a resource guide she put together on the topic and her views on the role AI plays (and will continue to play) in education and learning.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Guests: Clare Forstie, PhD, education program specialist, Center for Educational Excellence, University of Minnesota (https://cei.umn.edu/about/cei-staff/clare-forstie

Hosts: Herodotos Ellinas, MD, MHPE; Michael T. Braun, PhD

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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Welcome to Medical Education in Countryside Communities! On this episode of MEDICC, host Jeff Amundson talks with education program coordinator Heather Roth and MCW-Central Wisconsin student Grace Wittenberg about their experiences with rural medical education.

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Guests:

Heather Roth (https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-school/people/heather-roth)

Grace Wittenberg (https://www.linkedin.com/in/grace-wittenberg-a136aa19a/)

Host: Jeff Amundson

Produced By: Jeff Amundson, Michael Braun

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This Collaboratory Conversations episode features a conversation between Bill Branch and members of his collabortory and Sarah Schaeffer and Walter Parish, about their teams' collaboratories projects related to faculty development, including professional identity formation and support for faculty in medicine and medical education who come from under-represented groups. They update everyone on their progress and then talk about the transformation of medical education.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Hosts: Michael T. Braun, PhD

Guests:

William Branch, MD, professor at Emory University School of Medicine (https://med.emory.edu/education/emorydocs/bios/william-branch.html)

Sarah Schaeffer, MD, MPH, associate program director for the internal medicine residency and the director of GME diversity for the Department of Medicine, University of California San Francisco (https://ucsfhealthhospitalmedicine.ucsf.edu/people/sarah-schaeffer)

Walter Parrish, III, PhD, MSEd, director of diversity and inclusion, NYU Grossman School of Medicine (https://www.linkedin.com/in/walterparrish3/)

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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This Collaboratory Conversations episode features a conversation between Karen Marcdante, Natalie May, Julie Haizlip, Dave Hatem, Jessica Quaintance, and others, about their team's collaboratories projects about feelings of mattering in medical education and training and the use of learning communities in undergraduate medical education. It was recorded as part of our March collaboratories program meeting. They update everyone on their progress and then talk together about the transformation of medical education.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Hosts: Michael T. Braun, PhD

Guests:

Dr. Karen J. Marcdante, MD, professor of pediatrics, Medical College of Wisconsin (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute/people/karen-j-marcdante-md)

Dr. Natalie May, PhD, associate professor of research, School of Nursing, University of Virginia (https://www.nursing.virginia.edu/people/nlb7r/)

Dr. Julie Haizlip, MD, MAPP, FNAP, clinical professor of nursing, School of Nursing, University of Virginia (https://www.nursing.virginia.edu/people/jah4ub/)

Dr. Dave Hatem, professor of medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Massachusetts Chan Medical School (https://www.umassmed.edu/learningcommunities/burncoat_house/house-faculty/mentors/hatem/)

Dr. Jennifer Quaintance, PhD, associate research professor, Department of Biomedical and Health Informatics, University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine (https://med.umkc.edu/dir/Quaintance-Jennifer/)

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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This Collaboratory Conversations episode features a conversation between Deb Klamen and Anna Cianciolo about their team's collaboratories project "the Data Science of Character" and Sean Tackett and his team's project "Blindspots in Medical Education." It was recorded as part of our March collaboratories program meeting. They update everyone on their progress and then talk together about the transformation of medical education.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Hosts: Michael T. Braun, PhD

Guests:

Dr. Deb Klamen, MD, MHPE, Senior Associate Dean for Education & Curriculum, Professor and Chair, Department of Medical Education, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine (https://www.siumed.edu/debra-klamen.html)

Dr. Anna Cianciolo, PhD, Professor, Department of Medical Education, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine (https://www.siumed.edu/anna-cianciolo.html)

Dr. Sean Tackett, MD, MPH, Associate Professor of Medicine, General Internal Medicine, Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/profiles/details/sean-tackett)

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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In this special Collaboratory Conversations episode, Herodotos Ellinas (and chat-only, strep-throated Michael T. Braun) discusses publishing transformative medical education work with two medical education journal editors, Dr. Anna Cianciolo (editor of Teaching and Learning in Medicine) and Dr. Erik Driessen (editor of Perspectives on Medical Education). They discuss how to select a journal, the format for the submission, and their role in guiding research in medical education.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Hosts: Herodotos Ellinas

Guests:

Dr. Anna Cianciolo, PhD, Professor, Department of Medical Education, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine; and editor of Teaching and Learning in Medicine. (https://www.siumed.edu/anna-cianciolo.html)

Dr. Erik Driessen, PhD, Professor of Medical Education at Maastricht University, Netherlands; and editor of Perspectives on Medical Education. (https://www.maastrichtuniversity.nl/ew-driessen)

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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In this episode, MEDICC hosts Drs. Jeff Amundson and Anita Bublik-Anderson talk with Dr. Ellen Schumann and Dr. Michele Montgomery as they approach retirement from medical education. What wisdom do they have to share about educating future physicians and working in medicine in rural settings? We hope you enjoy the conversations!

More about our guests:

Ellen M. Schumann, MD, MS, FAAP: https://www.mcw.edu/education/medical-school/people/ellen-m-schumann-md-ms-faap

Michele Montgomery, MD: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-montgomery-83a005204/

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

If you haven't already, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review!

Guests: Ellen M. Schumann, MD, MS, FAAP; Michele Montgomery, MD

Hosts: Jeff Amundson, Anita Bublik-Anderson

Produced By: Jeff Amundson, Michael Braun

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We have too many ideas for what to discuss, and not enough time to discuss them! So today, we're taking time for some spring cleanup of our ideas list. Anita talks about her original medical education game, Labor Land, and Jeff talks about learning styles, a debunked (yet perhaps still valuable?) topic in education and learning.

Link to the book Anita references, the 2-Hour Cocktail Party by Nick Gray: https://www.boswellbooks.com/book/9781544530079

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

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Hosts: Michael Braun, Jeff Amundson, Anita Bublik-Anderson, Herodotos Ellinas

Produced By: Michael Braun

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Our Director's Corner series features intimate conversations with the director of the Kern Institute Dr. Adina Kalet and other senior leaders working in the transformation of medical education. In this first episode of the series, Dr. Herodotos Ellinas and Dr. Adina Kalet discuss her career, taking the position with the Kern Institute, and what comes next.

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

If you haven't already, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review!

Host: Herodotos Ellinas

Guest: Adina Kalet

Produced By: Michael Braun

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Before recording our last episode, we got to talking about chess and its (ir)relevance to learning to practice medicine. That was a surprisingly rich conversation, so we've expanded it and are considering all types of game and sport and how they inform our education and practice, in ways good and bad!

What's a game you love to play that you think about in relation to your work? Let us know! Email Michael at micbraun@mcw.edu, and we'll share your answers on the air before a future episode!

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

If you haven't already, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review!

Hosts: Michael Braun, Anita Bublik-Anderson, Jeff Amundson

Produced By: Michael Braun

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Happy Valentine's Day! In honor of Valentine's Day, we're celebrating the love of learning—looking back on something important we learned long ago, something we've learned recently, and something we look forward to learning more about. Hosts Michael Braun, Anita Bublik-Anderson, Jeff Amundson, and Herodotos Ellinas celebrate libraries and naps and new words and more!

As referenced in the episode, check out the book Breath by James Nestor. Learn more about that book here: https://www.mrjamesnestor.com/

Happy Valentine's Day!

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

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Hosts: Michael Braun, Anita Bublik-Anderson, Jeff Amundson, Herodotos Ellinas

Produced By: Michael Braun

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In this episode, MEDICC hosts Drs. Jeff Amundson and Anita Bublik-Anderson talk with Dr. Corina Norrbom and two student graduates about the Advocates in Medicine Pathway (AMP) program at the Medical College of Wisconsin-Central Wisconsin.

From AMP's website:

The Advocates in Medicine Pathway (AMP) program will support the professional development of individuals from Wisconsin interested in attending medical school at the Medical College of Wisconsin Central Wisconsin campus to promote a diverse future healthcare workforce built around resilience, relationships and system-based knowledge.

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

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Guests: Corina Norbomm, MD, assistant professor, MCW-CW; and two graduates of the AMP program.

Hosts: Jeff Amundson, Anita Bublik-Anderson

Produced By: Jeff Amundson, Michael Braun

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In this episode, MEDICC hosts Drs. Jeff Amundson and Anita Bublik-Anderson talk with Dr. Amy Prunuske and Ms. Sheng Khang about the Advocates in Medicine Pathway (AMP) program at the Medical College of Wisconsin-Central Wisconsin.

From AMP's website:

The Advocates in Medicine Pathway (AMP) program will support the professional development of individuals from Wisconsin interested in attending medical school at the Medical College of Wisconsin Central Wisconsin campus to promote a diverse future healthcare workforce built around resilience, relationships and system-based knowledge.

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

If you haven't already, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review!

Guests: Amy Prunuske, PhD, associate professor, MCW-CW; and Sheng Khang, education and outreach coordinator, North Central Health Education Center

Hosts: Jeff Amundson, Anita Bublik-Anderson

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It's the gift giving season, and hosts Michael Braun, Anita Bublik-Anderson, Jeff Amundson, and Herodotos Ellinas are here to give out some gifts—some silly, some more serious—to the world of medical education. We talk about using pencils, getting haircuts, making up lyrics to Christmas songs, and being #blessed in this joyful episode.

We hope you have a safe and happy holiday season. Happy new year!

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

If you haven't already, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review!

Hosts: Michael Braun, Anita Bublik-Anderson, Jeff Amundson, Herodotos Ellinas

Produced By: Michael Braun

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In this special Collaboratory Conversations episode, Herodotos Ellinas and Michael T. Braun share two conversations. First we talk with collaboratory member Anna Cianciolo about her project (with principal investigator Debra Klamen at Southern Illinois University) "the Data Science of Character." After that, we talk with Dave Hatem and his collaboratory focused on learning communities and their role in professional identity formation among undergraduate medical students. We check in with them to learn about their projects, progress and findings so far, and what's next as they continue their second funded year.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Hosts: Michael T. Braun, Herodotos Ellinas

Guests:

Dr. Anna Cianciolo, PhD, Professor, Department of Medical Education, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine (https://www.siumed.edu/anna-cianciolo.html)

Dr. Dave Hatem, MD, Professor, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Massachusetts Medical School (https://www.umassmed.edu/learningcommunities/burncoat_house/house-faculty/mentors/hatem/)\

Produced by: Michael T. Braun

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In this special Collaboratory Conversations episode, Herodotos Ellinas and Michael T. Braun share two conversations. First we talk with collaboratory members William Branch and Corinne Abraham, and then with Richard Greene and Walter Parish. All were key members of Kern Institute-funded research projects over the past year and a half, and we check in with them to learn about their projects, progress and findings so far, and what's next as they continue their second funded year.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Hosts: Michael T. Braun, Herodotos Ellinas

Guests:

Dr. William T. Branch, Jr., M.D, MACP, Professor, Department of Medicine, Emory University (https://med.emory.edu/directory/profile/?u=WBRANCH)

Dr. Corrine Abraham, DNP, RN, Associate Professor, Nell Hodgson Woodruff School of Nursing at Emory University (https://www.nursing.emory.edu/faculty-staff/corrine-ann-abraham)

Dr. Richard E. Greene, MD, MHPE, Associate Professor, Department of Medicine, New York University (https://med.nyu.edu/faculty/richard-e-greene)

Walter P. Parrish III, MSEd, Director of Diversity and Inclusion, New York University

Produced by: Michael T. Braun

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In this special Collaboratory Conversations episode, Herodotos Ellinas and Michael T. Braun share two conversations with collaboratory principal investigators Julie Haizlip from UVA and Sean Tackett from Johns Hopkins. Each led a Kern Institute-funded research project over the past year and a half, and we check in with them to learn about their projects, progress and findings so far, and what's next as they continue their second funded year.

This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Hosts: Michael T. Braun, Herodotos Ellinas

Guests: Julie Haizlip, Sean Tackett

Produced by: Michael T. Braun

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Happy Thanksgiving! For this Thanksgiving episode, we consider giving and receiving gratitude. What are the barriers to this? Why do we so often struggle to show our appreciation and receive appreciation of others? How does this dynamic extend to the classroom, given the complex power dynamics between teacher and learner? And what about in the medical space, between patient and provider?

We are so thankful of you spending some time with us on this Thanksgiving, or whenever you listen to this episode!

Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

If you haven't already, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review!

Panel: Michael T. Braun, Herodotos Ellinas, Jeff Amundson, and Anita Bublik-Anderson

Producer: Michael T. Braun

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In this episode of Medical Education in Countryside Communities (MEDICC), Anita and Jeff talk with Dr. Lisa Dodson, dean of the Medical College of Wisconsin's Central Wisconsin campus in Wausau, WI. They discuss Lisa's background, her role at MCW, and—of course—the unique opportunities of medical education focused on serving rural communities.

Guest: Lisa Dodson

Hosts: Anita Bublik-Anderson and Jeff Amundson

Produced by: Michael T. Braun

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Welcome to MEDICC, Medical Education in Countryside Communities. In this episode, our hosts Drs. Anita Bublik-Anderson and Jeff Amundson interview each other about their careers and their hopes and plans for this podcast!

MEDICC is a part of the Kern Institute Podcast Network.

Read more about the Kern Institute at the Medical College of Wisconsin here: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute

Hosts:

Anita Bublik-Anderson

Jeff Amundson

Produced By:

Michael T. Braun

Jeff Amundson

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In this spooooky episode, we decide to resurrect key figures from medical education history and sit them down at a ghostly dinner party. Who did we resurrect? Listen to find out! And who would you resurrect? Email Michael and let him know! micbraun@mcw.edu Thank you so much for listening to Medical Education Matters! For more information about the Kern Institute, please visit our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute) If you haven't already, please subscribe to our podcast and leave us a review!

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In this episode, we talk about our podcasting initiative, including why we think podcasting is a unique and exciting space for more talk about medical education. We discuss the shows we will release on this feed and hopefully get you excited for what is to come! This podcast comes to you from the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute)

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Welcome to Medical Education Matters, a podcast dedicated to the discussion of timely topics in the transformation of medical education. This trailer gives a brief introduction to our venture. Please subscribe! This podcast is brought to you by the Kern Institute for the Transformation of Medical Education at the Medical College of Wisconsin. Learn more about the Kern Institute by visiting our website here: https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute (https://www.mcw.edu/departments/kern-institute)