All Means ALL Inclusive Education: Recent Episodes
Sarolyn Pericohearn
Join two inclusive education enthusiasts, Carolyn O'Hearn and Sara Pericolosi as they dive deeper into how we (as family members, educators, community members, advocates, individuals) can work together to create inclusive learning environments for all learners.
In our 50th(!!!!) episode, Carolyn and Sara talk about how creativity stems from when you're stuck and don't know what to do next.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 50: When You Don't Know What To Do, Be Creative!
Our world can sometimes feel isolating, but it doesn't have to be. Thought partners can be an excellent way to grow as an educator, a family member, or even simply as a person. By finding the person that challenges your thinking while getting you to think deeper, you can become re-energized when life gets you down and validated when things are confusing. This episode was inspired by Edutopia's article: The Power of Finding Thought Partners (May 2024).
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Here is the transcript for Episode 49: Thought Partners.
Mitchell and Matt are back for another episode as they share their experience with developing self advocacy skills through planning Self Directed IEPs. Listen in to learn more about how these skills have helped them as they transitioned into post secondary life.
You can learn more about Mitchell and Matt on their website. To connect with Mitchell and Matt, you can follow them on Facebook or email them at speakingaboutautism@gmail.com
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Here is the transcript for Episode 48 - Self Advocacy and New Learning
In this episode we are joined by twin brothers, Mitchell and Matt from Speaking About Autism as they share the impact that their family, educators, friends, and employers have had on their lives. As they would say, "It's all about the people."
To connect with Mitchell and Matt, you can follow them on Facebook or email them at speakingaboutautism@gmail.com
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Here is the transcript for Episode 47 - Mitchell and Matt: Reflecting on the Journey
Not everyone is ready to start a project or shift their thinking at the same time you are. It's important to find a delicate balance between supporting those who jump in right away while also encouraging and sharing information to those who are hesitant or don't have the bandwidth to commit from the start. Listen in to hear a fun success story about sticking with it for the long haul.
Here is the transcript for Episode 46: Stick with it - And Welcome Those Along the Way
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In celebration of Autism Acceptance Month, Carolyn and Sara discuss the shift from Autism Awareness to Autism Acceptance. They highlight the importance of understanding, accepting, and celebrating the strengths of individuals with autism. They emphasize the need for inclusivity, embracing neurodiversity, and creating environments where everyone feels valued and included.
Here is the transcript for Episode 45: Celebrating Differences: The Evolution of Autism Acceptance.
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In the wake of the viral World Down Syndrome day ad, "Assume I Can," Carolyn and Sara discuss how assumptions can be limiting and imposed upon individuals with disabilities more often than those without disabilities. What biases or assumptions are holding back your learners or family members? What conversations could be held around expanding opportunities and building self-advocacy?
If you have not watched the ad yet, please check it out (and share it with others!): Assume I Can (1:30 min)
Here is the transcript for Episode 44: Are Assumptions Limiting Their Potential?
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Teams are crucial in building inclusive schools and communities. They're often the catalyst for progress, growth, and change. In this episode, Sara and Carolyn talk about the importance of teams and how we may not always consider the extent of that team.
Here is the transcript for Episode 43: The Importance of Team.
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Building inclusive spaces can be filled with challenges and barriers, yet we need to continue to dream, act, and move the work forward. This work is difficult, yet so incredibly important.
Listen to Sara and Carolyn share their thoughts and ideas for how, despite the challenges, we can (and need to) make an impact.
Here is the transcript for Episode 42: Choose Your Hard
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Sara and Carolyn share a quick recap of a-ha moments from Day 3 (the final day) of ATIA. The sessions they attended today largely centered around collaboration, parent perspectives, and being intentional about our choices today so that life can be accessed more efficiently tomorrow.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 41: ATIA Day Recap
Sara and Carolyn share a quick recap of a-ha moments from Day 2 at ATIA. So many great nuggets of information around comprehensive literacy, self-advocacy, partnering with families, and shifting mindsets (and practices) around assistive technology.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 40: ATIA Day 2
Sara and Carolyn are at ATIA in Orlando, Florida! Listen in for a quick recap of a-ha moments of our sessions including employability skills and assistive technology, the importance of communication in education, and how to support emergent writing for those with complex bodies.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 39: ATIA Day 1
Families are often an untapped resource for schools and community members, yet they are a constant team member for their child from birth to graduation and beyond. Teachers change, ancillary staff members change, but family members show up at the table time and time again to identify learning goals for their child.
Listen in to hear how families can impact their student's educational journey - and how educators can be more intentional about partnering with families to increase learning even more.
Here is the transcript for Episode 38: How Families Impact Education.
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What happens when we meet the student, the family, the colleague we didn't expect? In this episode, Sara and Carolyn share their thoughts and ideas on how powerful reflection, positive intent, and building authentic relationships can be.
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Final day of Learning Forward in Washington, D.C.! Listen in for a quick recap of a-ha moments from day three and our experience with Learning Forward.
We mention the Learning Forward Standards for Professional Learning in this episode. We invite you to explore these standards to see how you and your team can be more intentional about the training and conversations you embark in along the way.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 36: Learning Forward Day 3
Sara and Carolyn are at Learning Forward in Washington, D.C.! Listen in for a quick recap of a-ha moments from day two of our learning, collaborating, and pondering.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 34: Learning Forward Day 2
Sara and Carolyn are at Learning Forward in Washington, D.C.! Listen in for a quick recap of a-ha moments from Chris Emdin (keynote speaker), Jennifer Abrams (concurrent session presenter), and Delia Racines (round table facilitator).
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Here is the transcript for Episode 34: Learning Forward Day 1
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." -- Hellen Keller.
In this episode, we are joined by Carolyn Parker of Stepping Stones Speech Therapy. Carolyn talks about her experience as both a school Speech-Language Pathologist and a private practice Speech-Language Therapist. She shares little nuggets of wisdom for how we can truly come together and partner to support our students in all environments.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 33: Partnering With Outside Agencies
It's one thing to stand on the outside and talk about how kids should be including other kids - but why not have a conversation with them directly? In this special episode, Jameson O'Hearn & Kate Pericolosi answer questions about how school is or could be more inclusive to others around them. Listeners will also receive ideas of how to have their own conversations with their younger children around this important topic.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 32: Real Conversations for Real Inclusion
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 3 of Closing the Gap in Minneapolis, MN.
We chat about our session from today at Closing the Gap, Taming the Advice Monster: Strategies to Support Collaborative Efforts.
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Here is the Transcript for Episode 31: CtG - Day 3
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 2 of Closing the Gap in Minneapolis, MN.
We chat about sessions from Erin Sheldon, CAST, and AAC Improv!
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Here is the Transcript for Episode 30: CtG - Day 2
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 1 of Closing the Gap in Minneapolis, MN.
We chat about Amanda Soper's session today. You can find her on Instagram at: @AACreATively.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 29: CtG - Day 1
Labeling an experience or a moment can help learners understand a situation or feeling, but what happens when we label learners as a whole. Terms like “low functioning” or “unmotivated” describe the learner as a whole and may inadvertently shift our expectations, which affects the opportunities afforded to them and impact their potential success. What terms do you use or hear others use that may be focusing on what learners can’t do (yet)? How can you shift your or other’s mindsets to truly presume potential for all learners?
Here is the transcript for Episode 28: The (Negative) Power of Labels
In this episode, Sara and Carolyn chat about the Ten Conditions for Learning that are present in supportive learning environments. These conditions for learning are based upon the research of Doctors David Koppenhaver and Karen Erickson. Listen in to learn what they are, why they're important, and of course - be ready for a little self-reflection and action!
To learn more about these conditions, check out Karen and David's book, Comprehensive Literacy for All: Teaching Students with Significant Disabilities to Read and Write. Sarolyn also created a one-page document that highlights the ten conditions of learning for a quick review. For more in-depth information on these conditions can be found on the Building Bridges - English Language Arts website.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 27: Creating Supportive Learning Environments.
Season 2! Join Sarolyn consider components of "good" goals and why we need to stop writing goals for goals-sake. What goals are you writing this year? Help us reach our goals by sharing topics or perspectives you'd like to hear on All Means ALL!
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Here is the transcript for Episode 26: Setting Good Goals
Considering the Least Restrictive Environment, better known as LRE, is mandated when deciding where learners receive their education. Carolyn and Sara chat about LRE and how understanding someone's will drivers (Robyn Jackson) can help improve educational programming and (hopefully) start the shift to a culture of inclusion.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 25: Connecting With Others About LRE
In this episode, Sara and Carolyn sit down with Tracy Wood to discuss how she has used Robyn Jackson's "Will Drivers" to design more meaningful, engaging, and impactful professional development. Tracy also shares how this information has positively impacted her day-to-day conversations and relationships. Tracy is a veteran Speech-Language Pathologist with Mount Pleasant Public Schools.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 24: How Can We Motivate Others?
When we consider how to bring others along on this journey toward inclusive education, it's important to recognize what motivates us as well as what motivates them. Based on Robyn Jackson's "Will Drivers," Sara and Carolyn jump into four different drivers that describe what motivates us as learners. Consider how mastery, autonomy, purpose, and belonging all contribute to our motivation and our desire to get anything accomplished, let alone the hard things.
Robyn Jackson's Podcast about Motivation
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Here is the transcript for Episode 23: What Motivates You?
In order to fill the buckets of others, ours needs to be filled too! In this episode, you'll find out what Sara and Carolyn are reading and/or listening to in an effort to fill their buckets this summer. We want to learn with and from you so find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter and let us know what you're doing to fill your bucket.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 22: Fill Your Bucket With Professional Learning.
If you're looking for the books and podcasts mentioned in this episode, look no further!
- High Performance Habits by Brendon Buchard
- Crucial Conversations by Joseph Grenny, Kerry Patterson, Ron McMillan, Al Switzler, and Emily Greggory
- Better Conversations: Coaching Ourselves and Each Other to Be More Credible, Caring, and Connected by Jim Knight
- Comprehensive Literacy for All: Teaching Students with Significant Disabilities to Read and Write by Karen Erickson and David Koppenhaver
- Herding Tigers: Be the Leader That Creative People Need by Todd Henry
- Your Students, My Students, Our Students: Rethinking Equitable and Inclusive Classrooms by Lee Ann Jung, Nancy Frey, Douglas Fisher, and Julie Kroener
- Lead From Where You Are: Building Intention, Connection and Direction in Our Schools by Joe Sanfelippo
- Coaching Conversations with Jim Knight Podcast
- Think Inclusive Podcast
- Talking With Tech Podcast
Let's end the 2022-2023 school year on a high note. When is the last time you reflected on the growth you've made this year? Not the growth on your mandated professional goals, but the little wins that have supported big changes overall. It's time to celebrate you and it's time to celebrate others who are on this journey with you. What are you celebrating? Please share your wins or the wins of others with us on any of our social media platforms: Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 21: Celebrating Wins.
We're celebrating our 20th podcast by sharing some of our favorite All Means ALL-isms. We would love for you to share your favorites or ideas for future podcast topics, guests, etc. Follow us and reach out to us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 20: 20 All Means ALL-isms
As we approach the end of the traditional school year, many of you are having conversations about transitioning your child, your classroom, your caseload to the next program or to the next providers. Transitions are normal - we transition from one task to another, from one location to another - so how can we normalize and improve transitions from one classroom or program to the next for our learners? We definitely don't have all the answers, but we know that if we (a) don't have the hard conversations and (b) don't take tangible steps forward, nothing can change.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 19: Transitions Today for Transitions Tomorrow.
In this episode, Sara interviews Karanveer Singh, a film editor, public speaker, and an AAC user. Karanveer shares about his experience with finding his voice later in life, inclusion, and things he wished his peers, educators, and community members had known. If you want to talk with Karanveer directly, you can reach him via email.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 18: Don't Give Up.
Once we know better, it's imperative that we DO better - for students, for educators, for families, and for communities. In this episode, Sara and Carolyn give simple steps to get started today for four groups: educators, families, administrators, and communities. By working together, we ensure accountability, sustainability, and better outcomes over time.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 17: Know Better, Do Better.
Sara and Carolyn share their final takeaways from Day 4 and the SXSW EDU conference in Austin, TX.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 16: SXSW EDU - Day 4.
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 3 of SXSW EDU in Austin, TX.Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Here is the transcript for Episode 15: SXSW EDU - Day 3.
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 2 of SXSW EDU in Austin, TX.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 14: SXSW EDU - Day 2.
Sara and Carolyn share their takeaways from Day 1 of SXSW EDU in Austin, TX.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 13: SXSW EDU - Day 1
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We often approach helping other adults similar to how we approach helping students and many times, it backfires. In this episode, Sara and Carolyn talk about the 5 simple truths of helping adults based on the work of Jim Knight and the Instructional Coaching Group. Listen as they share their ahas, reflections and learning around these simple, yet powerful truths of helping others. If you'd like to dive deeper and learn more about the 5 Simple Truths, watch the short Instructional Coaching Group Webinar: Understanding Adults.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 12: 5 Simple Truths of Helping Adults.
In this episode, Sara and Carolyn had the pleasure of interviewing Mateo and Tina Moreno - an AAC user and his mom - about their experiences with inclusion and the importance of advocating and speaking up for yourself. Later in the episode, Mateo and Tina share some great tips for communication partners, new AAC users, and families who are just beginning their AAC journeys. Mateo is starting to share his experiences with classrooms to help them see how kids who use AAC are just like every other kid - they want to feel included and talk about things that are of interest to them.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 11: Reflections to Guide Future Travelers.
As educators, we often serve on a variety of teams. What we've come to find is the importance of not only getting the 'right' perspectives at the table, but in setting up the environment to ensure all voices are heard (and valued) equally. In this episode, we welcome Mike Marotta back to the podcast. During our conversation, we talk about the SETT framework as a tool for a meaningful conversation that can lead to powerful change and growth for students. If you're unfamiliar with the SETT framework, check out Joy Zabala's website. Joy was the creator of the SETT Framework and a mentor to many. Kelly Fonner, an educational and assistive technology consultant and trainer, modified the SETT Framework. As you listen, consider how you can include all voices and perspectives within the teams you serve.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 9: Who Inclusion Benefits.
When inclusion is discussed, we often hear how it benefits the student with the identified disability or with the IEP. In reality, inclusive practices benefit all students, educators, families, and even the community. The phrase "we've always done it this way" can negatively impact these stakeholders, but continues to be common practice in many classrooms and schools. As you listen, think about how you've been impacted by inclusive practices, how you can impact students through inclusive practices, and how you can hold conversations with community members who may be apprehensive about changing the status quo.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 9: Who Inclusion Benefits.
In honor of Inclusive Schools Week, Carolyn and Sara discuss Shelley Moore's Evolution of Inclusion. Throughout history (and even in the present), learners who receive special education services were not fully included in their peers' learning environments. Join them as they discuss exclusion, segregation, integration, inclusion, and the gold standard within inclusion. As you listen, think about where your learners fall on this continuum and what steps you and your team could take to celebrate the individuality and diversity within inclusive practices. How are you encouraging and modeling inclusive practices? How could your approach improve?
Find Shelley Moore on Twitter and Instagram, as well as videos and resources on her website. Listen to her explanation of the Evolution of Inclusion on YouTube.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 8: Inclusive Education: The Past, The Present, and The Future.
Carolyn and Sara are joined once again by Mike Marotta; this time talking about the power of asking questions. When we consider inclusive education, no one has all of the answers, but a team that asks the right questions can make meaningful, sustainable change. As you listen, think about opportunities where instead of simply providing answers, you could ask powerful questions. How would asking questions empower teams to take more risks? Would teams be able to search within themselves and realize they had answers the whole time?
Find Mike Marotta on Twitter and at his website.
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Here is the transcript for Episode 7: The Power of Asking Questions
In this episode, Carolyn and Sara host their first guest, Mike Marotta, a friend, mentor, and the coolest inclusive technology evangelist they know. While the conversation largely focuses on eliminating silos, the importance of genuine connections is highlighted. As you listen, think about what silos may exist within your program, building, or district. What connections would support your own practices? What connections could improve student outcomes? What are the first steps you can take to eliminate unintentional silos?
Find Mike Marotta on Twitter and at his website.
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In this episode, Carolyn and Sara talk about the word "yet": A word with three little letters that ultimately holds immense potential and possibilities. As you listen, think about what is fine that could be better. What challenges seem less daunting if you add the word yet to them?
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Sometimes, it's not what resources exist, but what you do with the resources available. In this episode, Carolyn and Sara talk about how October may yield a plethora of AAC resources, but by simply collecting them for yourself, no change actually occurs. The most important AAC resource we have are AAC users themselves. As you listen, consider who needs to know about AAC and how to support AAC users. What can you learn from AAC users themselves? Thanks for listening and, if you haven't already, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
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In Episode 2, we talked about daring greatly and taking risks. In Episode 3, we'll dive into how we can intentionally create environments where others feel safe being vulnerable and taking risks. We have an opportunity to connect, serve, and truly collaborate with others for the benefit of our students. As you listen, reflect on how you show up for the teams you serve. How can you build trust within those teams? How can you move from coordination to collaboration?
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Many educators, students, and families are heading back to school this month. In this episode, you'll hear one of our favorite quotes (or speeches) from Teddy Roosevelt, "The Man in the Arena." Each new day marks a new opportunity to share your authentic, vulnerable self with others. As you listen, consider what risks you will take for your students (or yourself) this year. How will you be a champion for others?
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In our first ever podcast, we wanted to take a moment to introduce ourselves and share our why behind this podcast. As you listen to our why, we hope you take a moment to think about your why. Why did you choose to listen to this podcast? What are you hoping to gain from it? We'd love to hear your why and any topics, perspectives (people), or things you're hoping to learn from listening.
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