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Jeff Cunningham & Ryan Harris
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Oceanography & Senior Technical Staff Member
Description: A lot has changed in the AI-weather prediction space since the summer of 2023. Dr. Amy McGovern from the University of Oklahoma joins the Triple Point® again, a year since she last joined Jeff and I, to catch listeners up on the state of Artificial Intelligence in numerical weather prediction. We talk about the need to create policies and guardrails around AI that are broad and flexible enough that innovation can still happen alongside responsible AI principles and protection against nefarious uses. There are several areas where AI is going to continue accelerating weather prediction, but arguably none more so than in the way we assimilate data into our weather models. It's likely to be a space where, in a year, we will be looking back at how rapid a transition occurred.
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Hosts: Ryan Harris and Guest Host Wayne MacKenzie
Guest: Dr. Sarah Kapnick, NOAA Chief Scientist
Description: When NOAA selected Dr. Sarah Kapnick as the agency's Chief Scientist, in many respects she was an "outside of the box" selection. True, she already had a strong pedigree of science experience, something one would expect for the Chief Scientist. But what made her uniquely qualified and yet still "outside the box" was her diversity of experience across public, academic, and private, including heavy work in the finance sector. In the latest Triple Point™, you'll hear from the current NOAA Chief Scientist about how she is encouraging the agency to think beyond the status quo. Incentivizing innovation through simple measures in performance workplans, encouraging a mantra to follow your curiosity, and using unique consortia to advance research through Industry-University Cooperative Research Centers (IUCRCs) are just a few ways Dr. Kapnick is helping NOAA think outside the box.
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Host: Ryan Harris
Guest: Colonel Kris Saling, Director of Innovation at U.S. Army Recruiting Command
Description: Technology across career fields, from artificial intelligence to cloud computing and more, is advancing so rapidly. But technology is just one of many tools in our toolbox, and at the end of the day, communities, governments, private businesses, and organizations still rely on people to advance the world around us. Managing people through human resources and talent management still largely remains a transactional process. Thinking outside the box in talent management requires us to holistically and deliberately manage people across their careers and teams rather than just filling a gap. Thinking outside the box also means seeing risk like diversifying a financial investment portfolio to include understanding the risk of maintaining the status quo. Innovation will best thrive when we find champions to help align values and work and consider setting up small innovation cells that are separate from the main bureaucracy but still together enough to build trust. Want to know some secrets to build a high-performing super hero team? Tune in to the latest outside the box episode where Colonel Kris Saling from the U.S. Army joins The Triple Point to share her lessons learned in accelerating talent management innovation.
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Host: Ryan Harris
Guest: Dr. Rob Young, Director for the Study of Developed Shorelines at Western Carolina University
Description: Next up in our series of “Outside the Box” conversations is a discussion with Dr. Rob Young on how “the box” for coastal resilience may actually be inside out. Conventional wisdom for coastal adaptation is all about communities trying to protect their map and their tax base. Better management, monitoring, systems thinking to minimize unintended consequences, and taking time to study whether adaptation measures are actually working or not are some basic measures that can improve resilience strategies. Outside the box thinking in this space also requires legislative progress and what many are increasingly calling for a National Adaptation Plan. Hard choices are required by local municipalities and businesses when it comes to adaptation, and we need to be honest with ourselves and where we invest in coastal adaptation if we are going to truly move the needle on making our communities more resilient.
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Host: Ryan Harris
Guest: Scott Mackaro, Head of Insights and Innovation, Vaisala X-Weather
Description: What if NOAA’s global weather model didn’t exist in 10 years? It’s a provocative question that challenges conventional wisdom, but it’s a question worth considering as Google, NVIDIA, and others are challenging the weather modeling space with their rapidly advancing AI technology. The government should still probably play some sort of role in shaping and regulating this potential future paradigm shift similar to how the government regulates the safety of insulin and other pharmaceuticals while still promoting innovation. Scott Mackaro from Vaisala X-Weather joins the show for what may turn out to be the first in a series of Outside the Box episodes.
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Host: Ryan Harris
Guest: Matt Stein, CEO, Salient Predictions
Description: The atmosphere is the main driver of our daily weather. But it's the oceans, with its long-term thermodynamic memory, that drive our climate patterns from seasonal, to decadal, and beyond. NOAA’s Climate Prediction Center and an increasing number of private industry companies like Salient Predictions use signals in long-term ocean patterns, soil moisture, sea ice, and snow cover to make much longer predictions than what you might see on your daily weather app. Such signals give us long-term oscillation patterns like El Nino, the Arctic Oscillation, and more. And these companies are helping industries from energy, to agriculture, to insurance buy down sub-seasonal to seasonal environmental risk. It’s one of the frontiers in the weather and climate world where climate science meets data science head and where unique machine learning techniques are finding new signals in the noise of our chaotic climate.
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Host: Ryan Harris
Guests: Brian LaMarre, NWS Meteorologist in Charge, Tampa Bay
Description: In 1900, an estimated 8,000 people lost their lives in the Great Galveston Hurricane that September. Our understanding of hurricane risk has improved immensely since then, but still over 100 were killed just 18 months ago in Hurricane Ian. Risk is defined as the probability of some hazard occurring multiplied by the impact that hazard may have on an individual, population, or system. The first problem here is that humans don't always understand probabilities, and the second problem is that humans have a psychological bias to downplay or plain ignore the risk of hazards because they haven't personally experienced the hazard before. Hurricane Ian was a perfect example of poor risk perceptions, and it's the first topic we uncover this year as Brian LaMarre from the National Weather Service joins The Triple Point™. Hear about how the Weather Service is improving risk perceptions with better technology and communications strategies, and also the importance of personal accountability and trusting authoritative sources.
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Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris (and Eric Hunt for Episode 23)
Guests: All 2023 Guests
Description: Welcome to the final Triple Point™ Podcast of the year. And what a year it's been! If you didn't get a chance to listen to our monthly episodes in 2023, this 90-minute episode will get you fully caught up on all the insights you missed, hear some bold predictions and career advice for up and coming leaders, and best of all, end the year sharing some of the hilarious Triple Point™ outtakes. We hope you have a safe and healthy holiday season and look forward to seeing you in 2024!
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Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Wayne MacKenzie, Program Manager, NOAA Technology Partnerships Office
Description: NOAA’s Technology Partnerships Office serves the U.S. economy by transferring government-developed scientific and technological innovations to commercial applications, facilitating strategic public-private partnerships, and investing in small business research and development. This multi-use technological development cycle maximizes the government’s original investment in addition to advancing NOAA’s operational missions. NOAA’s Technology Transfer Program Manager, Wayne MacKenzie, joined The Triple Point™ to share more about NOAA intellectual property, patents, and the Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) programs, and he also shared how his involvement in improv theater makes for more productive conversations, staff meetings, and life in general.
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Host: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Don Berchoff, CEO of TruWeather Solutions
Description: Who pays attention to the weather when there is no pilot on board an aircraft? This is the situation for beyond visual line of site (BVLOS) unmanned aerial vehicles which fly without the world's best weather sensor, a pilot. Don Berchoff and the TruWeather team are delivering on a promise to reduce micro-weather uncertainty for Beyond Visual Line of Sight operations, with a focus on "over-the-horizon" hard-to-detect weather hazards. TruWeather’s efforts seek to replace the loss of the “human sensor”, the pilot, on board the aircraft and increase airframe revenue generation and effectiveness when weather is marginal for operations. In this episode, we unpack this wicked problem and create a few new weather conspiracy theories along the way.
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Host: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Paul Walsh, CEO of Meteomatics N.A.
Description: “There’s an amazing amount of unclaimed value in businesses bringing in weather and climate data.” That’s from Paul Walsh, CEO of Meteomatics N.A. and our most recent guest on the Triple Point™. In order to create repeatable business revenue with weather and climate data, Paul also shares his recipe for success that has helped him throughout his fruitful weather business career: Know the weather, Make it actionable with the right analytics, and (most importantly) Integrate it into existing business decision systems. Finally, we also learn how a vertically-integrated company like Meteomatics creates digital resilience and uses its data and api platform, high-resolution weather modeling, and unique vertical sounder (the Meteodrone) to create values for a wide array of businesses.
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Host: Ryan Harris
Guest: TC Moore (Owner of Atlantic States Weather) and Dan Schreiber (CCM at J.S. Held)
Description: Billions of dollars in insurance and personal injury litigation cases get settled every year in the U.S. In some of these cases, the weather can become a significant factor in proving or disproving damage, negligence, or possibly even fault. In such cases, companies, lawyers, the insurance industry, or courts seek the expert advice of an American Meteorological Society Certified Consulting Meteorologist. CCMs TC Moore and Dan Schreiber come on the show to discuss the CCM process and describe interesting and informative examples of how important forensic weather information can provide in these cases. As weather-fueled events like the recent Maui wildfires continue, the need for honest, unbiased, and professional weather knowledge from qualified CCMs will always be valuable. And it pays (literally) when agencies can proactively reach out to the CCM community ahead of time in the insurance and litigation process.
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Guest: N/A
Description: “Modern man talks of a battle with nature, forgetting that, if he won the battle, he would find himself on the losing side.” ~ E.F. Schumacher. Mankind has a fascination with attempting to control nature to fit our way of life, whether well-intentioned or not. It’s no different with the weather and climate. And with climate warming continuing to accelerate and 2023 likely to be one of the warmest in recorded human history, the die is cast for the grandest of human experiments, even arguably beyond nuclear weapons. This episode dives deep into the similar but different acts of weather modification and geoengineering. We define the terms, discuss examples of active weather modification, debunk chemtrails, talk about proposed geoengineering research, and cover the three biggest reasons why we should be worried about a geoengineered world. Who gets to decide when their part of the world is too dry, too wet, too hot? Just add a few chemicals to our atmosphere, Earth’s chemotherapy, to control the thermostat, right? What could go wrong?
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Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guests:
Dr. Amy McGovern, Professor at University of Oklahoma Director, NSF AI Institute for Research on Trustworthy AI in Weather, Climate, and Coastal Oceanography & Senior Technical Staff Member
Dr. John Williams, Head of Weather AI Sciences at The Weather Company, an IBM Business
Description: Is Machine Learning coming for your job? Will AI replace weather forecasters? Unlikely in the near-term postulates our guests this month, Dr. Amy McGovern, who runs the National Science Foundation’s AI for Environmental Sciences (AI2ES) and Dr. John Williams, Head of Weather AI Sciences at The Weather Company, an IBM Business. But it should accelerate decision making and generally make our jobs easier by tipping and cueing forecasters. Amy and John speak of model hallucinations like the inaccuracies we see with ChatGPT, but both experts also marvel at the rapid inflection point we are in the midst of. Learn what AI and Machine Learning do well for weather and climate prediction, where it’s lacking, and the promise of freeing forecasters and practitioners up to focus more on risk communication and individual-tailored predictions to better help society in the future. It’s a fascinating episode you won’t want to miss.
References:
- AI2ES
- Could AI become the world’s weatherman? (Fox News)
- AI is going to revolutionize the weather forecast (FreeThink)
- El Nino could make coffee, cookies, and chocolate more expensive (Time Magazine)
- El Nino rains intensify dengue outbreak in Peru (Reuters)
- Understanding El Nino (NOAA)
- Severe weather and heat turn out the lights in Oklahoma (The Oklahoman)
- IBM's The Weather Company Continues to Be the World's Most Accurate Forecaster Overall, Despite Growing Competition and Amid Weather's Increased Impact (IBM)
- Google's AI-enabled flood forecasting goes global (Axios)
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Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guests:
Dr. Amy McGovern is a Lloyd G. and Joyce Austin Presidential Professor in the School of Computer Science and in the School of Meteorology at the University of Oklahoma. Dr McGovern is also the director of the NSF AI Institute for Research on Trustworthy AI in Weather, Climate, and Coastal Oceanography.
Dr. John K. Williams is a Senior Technical Staff Member and Head of Weather AI Sciences at The Weather Company, an IBM Business where he leads a team of scientists and software engineers who use artificial intelligence and data science in conjunction with meteorological expertise to create and verify innovative state-of-the-art weather forecasts that routinely serve individuals and businesses around the globe, including via the Weather Channel mobile app and weather.com.
Description: Is Machine Learning coming for your job? Will AI replace weather forecasters? Unlikely in the near-term postulates our guests this month, Dr. Amy McGovern, who runs the National Science Foundation’s AI for Environmental Sciences (AI2ES) and Dr. John Williams, Head of Weather AI Sciences at The Weather Company, an IBM Business. But it should accelerate decision making and generally make our jobs easier by tipping and cueing forecasters. Amy and John speak of model hallucinations like the inaccuracies we see with ChatGPT, but both experts also marvel at the rapid inflection point we are in the midst of. Learn what AI and Machine Learning do well for weather and climate prediction, where it’s lacking, and the promise of freeing forecasters and practitioners up to focus more on risk communication and individual-tailored predictions to better help society in the future. It’s a fascinating episode you won’t want to miss.
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Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Dr. Ed Kearns, Chief Data Officer at First Street Foundation
Description: What’s the best way to get more people to pay attention to the risks posed by climate change? Democratize the data for free and personalize the story behind it. That’s what non-profit First Street Foundation is doing with its Risk Factor platform providing information on future risks to flood, fire, heat, wind, and soon air quality. Dr. Ed Kearns, Chief Data Officer for the up-start non-profit joins the Triple Point to talk about how the mission and technology at First Street help homeowners, the real estate and insurance sectors, and government agencies better account for future climate risk using their Risk Factor platform.
References:
- Super Typhoon Mawar, 2023’s strongest storm, barrels toward Philippines (Axios)
- Climate change insurance research center launches (NPR)
- 62% of homebuyers weighing climate risk in moving decisions (Redfin)
- Insurance companies dropping homeowners with solar panels in Florida (NBC News)
- Experts say Florida property insurance premiums may increase 40% this year (ABC News)
- Babbock Ranch: Syd Kitson (How I Built This with Guy Roz on Wondery)
- Triple Point Podcast Ep24 - Commercial Weather Modeling and Services with Brent Shaw
- Triple Point Podcast Ep21 - Weather and Wellness with Bonnie Schneider
- Triple Point Podcast Ep19 - Air Quality with Eric Klos from Daily Breath
- First Street Foundation
- Risk Factor
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Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Brent Shaw, Senior Director of Scientific and Content Engineering at DTN
Description: Weather and climate is big business, but business value creation is not always created with only running the best weather models. Instead, value is generated when weather companies solve customer problems. Learn how Brent Shaw delivers relevant, reliable, and scalable solutions with an understanding a customer's "five whys". In this episode we discuss the latest trends in weather modeling, Brent's experience with the "bird poo algorithm", and many more commercial weather insights. Throughout, Brent gives sage advice for early weather career professionals seeking to work in the military, government, or commercial sectors.
References:
- Climate models warn of possible “super El Nino” this summer (Guardian)
- Climate change could be juicing baseball homeruns (NPR)
- India braces for season’s first heatwave (Weather Channel)
- ForecastWatch
- The same tech used by self-driving cars is now used to measure snow (Spectrum News)
- Historic rain in South Florida causes severe flooding, closing schools and Fort Lauderdale's airport (CNN)
Journey to becoming a commercial weather innovator
(13:11)
How meteorologists can create commercial value
(20:31)
Being reliable, relevant, scalable is really where the money is
(27:16)
Trends in commercial weather modeling
(28:21)
A good place for machine learning is where we know there's a connection between the atmosphere, the ocean, and some impact the customer cares about
(33:52)
Solving problems through the socioeconomic lens
(36:46)
How non-weather/climate communities can start to observe their data better so that we can do machine learning and AI better
(39:14)
The role of government and commercial weather services
(43:21)
The bird poo algorithm!
(45:38)
Does a weather and climate company need to own the vertical?
(52:55)
The gamer changer "SpaceX" moment for weather commercialization
(59:44)
Thoughts for early career professionals
(1:01:45)
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Hosts: Jeff Cunningham, Ryan Harris, and Guest Host Dr. Eric Hunt
Guest: Marisol Maddox, Senior Arctic Analyst at the Polar Institute for the Wilson Center
Description: The Arctic is a hot topic, both literally and figuratively. The region is experiencing warming two to four times faster than the rest of the globe, and the far-reaching impacts on the rest of the globe are significant. In Greek, the word “arktikos” means “near the bear,” as in Ursa Major, but it’s also home to another bear: Russia. Since the unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the provocation has disrupted global norms in many ways, but no more so than Arctic cooperation. Because of how austere the environment, unpredictable atmospheric and cryospheric challenges, and significant gaps in environmental sensing data, the Russian invasion has all but halted meaningful cooperation. Beyond these foreign policy challenges, the region is home to thawing permafrost, retreating sea ice, the largest climate tipping points, introduction of prehistoric zombie viruses, and the desire to find a more efficient transpolar shipping route for global commerce as sea ice continues to disappear. Improving Arctic sensing, research, and geostrategic linkages will be key focus areas to better understand and prepare for the globe’s most pressing climate change threats.
References:
- Input Report for the Arctic Security Roundtable at the 2023 Munich Security Conference
- 'Zombie’ viruses are thawing from melting permafrost in Russia (Washington Post)
- What Will It Take to Connect the Arctic? $1.2 Billion, 10,000 Miles of Fiber-Optic Cable and Patience (Wall Street Journal)
- Biden Administration Approves Williow Oil Project in Alaska (New York Times)
- Greenland temps surge up to 50 degrees warmer than normal (Washington Post)
- The Arctic Ocean and climate change in a time of tension (Wilson Center)
- Book: Prisoners of Geography (Tim Marshall)
- Permafrost Pathways Project (Woodwell Climate Research Center)
- Saildrone
- Ocean Aero
- Ted Stevens Center for Arctic Security Studies
- The Wilson Center
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Show NotesHost: Ryan Harris
Guests: Lieutenant Colonels Jeremy DeHart and Kyle Larson, U.S. Air Force 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron (aka The Hurricane Hunters)
Description: Most people run from hurricanes. Jeremy DeHart and Kyle Larson run toward them, or rather, they fly into them...on purpose. They are part of the storied unit, the United State Air Force Hurricane Hunters, that literally fly directly into the eye of the storm to collect all-important weather observations to feed critical information into weather models and narrow down the cone of uncertainty. Without the information, the intensity and track of hurricane predictions would be wildly inaccurate. Take a journey with us as we explore Hurricane Hunter missions in Michael, Ian, and even the atmospheric rivers that flooded California this January.
References:
- Atmospheric rivers could supercharge California wildfire season (Fox Weather)
- Atmospheric rivers may also be changing the Arctic (CNN)
- Atmospheric rivers batter California (CBS)
- How Air Force Hurricane Hunters help California manage water (Fox Local)
- What’s it like to flight into a hurricane (Esquire)
- VIDEO: Take a ride with the Hurricane Hunters chasing Florence (Wall Street Journal)
- VIDEO: Flying into the Eye of the Storm (Degrees of Science)
- VIDEO: Crabbing into the wind (YouTube)
- Tropical Tidbits
- U.S. Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunters
- NOAA Hurricane Hunters
Journey to becoming a Hurricane Hunter(0:02:56)
Flight planning for hurricane and atmospheric river missions(0:06:26)
Hurricane data and sensing technology(0:12:51)
Crabbing into the wind(0:21:30)
What's it like to fly through a hurricane?(0:24:00)
Climate change and hurricanes(0:28:35)
President Biden thanks the Hurricane Hunters(0:31:57)
How to become a hurricane hunter(0:34:28)
Key takeaways: reduce the cone of uncertainty, heed hurricane and evacuation warnings, and protect people(0:36:16)
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Show NotesHosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Bonnie Schneider, Meteorologist and Author of two books including Taking the Heat
Description: The Triple Point Podcast is back in 2023, and Ryan makes a bold prediction for the new year as we kick things off with a great show hosting Bonnie Schneider to talk about her latest book, Taking the Heat: How Climate Change is Affecting Your Mind, Body & Spirit, and What You Can Do About It. The book and our conversation with Bonnie reveal not only some unique climate effects impacting our health - including eco-anxiety, the impact of warmer night-time temperatures on our sleep patterns, and solastalgia (you’ll have to listen to find out more on that one) - but most importantly provide tools you can leverage to optimize your wellness in a warming world like regenerative farming, mindfulness, and more.
References:
- Preparedness and safety tips discussion for recent lake effect snow event (Twitter)
- Atmospheric rivers bring historic flooding to California (CNN)
- Ocean temperatures were the hottest ever recorded in 2022 (The Guardian)
- Third La Nina year in a row expected to end with El Nino start this summer (IRI)
- Book: Taking the Heat: How Climate Change is Affecting Your Mind, Body, and Spirit and What You Can Do About It
- Bonnie Weather
- Triple Point Podcast | Episode 19 - Air Quality with Eric Klos from Daily Breath
- Triple Point Podcast | Episode 7 - The Intersection of Climate and Health
Atmospheric rivers in California and lake effect snows in New York(0:03:41)
Early beginnings as a TV meteorologist(0:11:48)
Perseverance and other author writing tips from Bonnie(0:14:00)
Growing eco-anxiety and the role of the media(0:25:40)
Climate change effects on communities(0:30:37)
Taking the heat: thermoregulation and the negative impact on sleep(0:33:43)
Developing the next generation of science leaders(0:36:12)
Climate change and the future of food: regenerative agriculture(0:39:13)
Lightning Round(0:44:40)
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Show NotesHosts: Jeff Cunningham, Ryan Harris, and Guest-Host Aravind Ravichandran from TerraWatch Space
Guest: No Guest
Description: The first satellites were launched in the early 1960s, but beyond pretty visual imagery, it wasn't until almost 1980 that we found a way to actually harness the power of the data sensed from these Earth Observation platforms and insert it directly into numerical weather models. And because of the scale of investment needed to build, launch, maintain ground links, process, and disseminate the satellite data, Governments have exclusively owned the Earth Observation tech stack. Since 2000 though and especially over the last five years, commercial Earth Observation companies and platforms are on a meteoric rise that could very well out-pace Governments in the next 10 years. But weather and climate information are meant to serve the public. How will the public and especially developing countries benefit from these new commercial satellite enterprises? How must public-private partnerships change in this space? And how does the weather and climate industry evolve as sectors wrestle for control of the weather operating vertical stack? Join Jeff and I and our guest co-host, Aravind, from TerraWatch Space as we explore these questions and more.
References:
- Next NOAA weather satellite launching just in time (SpaceNews)
- Europe’s new weather satellite sets sail, set for December launch (ESA)
- MTG satellite launch marks new generation of weather forecasting (UK Met Office)
- Spire awarded $10M contract to provide NOAA with satellite-sensed data (Biz Wire)
- NASA and Google team up to better track air pollution (NASA)
- Trends in cost for space launch to low Earth orbit (NASA, SpaceX)
- Team Topologies (Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais)
- Data Mesh: Delivering Data Driven Value at Scale (Zhamak Dehghani)
- The Science of Interstellar (Kip Thorne)
- TerraWatch Space with Aravind
Humble beginnings(0:01:44)
Weather communications and media challenges around the world(0:15:32)
Data overload(0:23:47)
Commercializing weather services delivery(0:33:16)
Public-private partnerships in Earth Observation and weather(0:43:22)
Bold predictions(0:57:06)
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Show NotesHosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Eric Klos, CEO and Founder of Daily Breath
Description: Over 330 million people in the world suffer from asthma, and even more find themselves sneezing and wheezing when it comes to irritating allergies. Environmental information helps inform air quality warnings, but right now those warnings are often broad and not tailored to individual sensitivities. Eric Klos from Daily Breath joins the show to discuss how his environmental health intelligence platform aggregates key air quality data and information to create a personalized risk index.
References:
- How a dangerous stew of air pollution is choking the U.S. (Nature)
- Mumbai suffers another round of “very poor” air quality (Weather Channel)
- England’s Chief Medical Officer aims to curb air pollution (Financial Times)
- Red Tide continues to plague Florida coast following Hurricane Ian (Sarasota Tribune)
- Crowdsourcing weather reports (NSSL mPING)
- Grit and Old Glory on display in Florida (Team Rubicon)
- Health Effects Attributed to Wildfire Smoke (EPA)
- Long-term health effects of wildfire exposure: A scoping review (Science Direct)
- Episode 7 - The intersection of climate and health
- Daily Breath
Recent News(0:00:51)
Air quality "light bulb" moment leads to environmental health intelligence(0:09:53)
Creating a personalized air quality risk index platform via Daily Breath(0:18:41)
Innovation: adding environmental information to health records(0:38:09)
Air Quality data and measurement gaps(0:40:34)
Crowdsourcing health symptoms to map air quality ailments(0:51:50)
Lightning Round(0:57:26)
Insights(1:00:03)
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Episode 18 - Climate and National Security
Show Notes Hosts: Ryan Harris
Guest: No Guest
Description: Do a changing climate and extreme weather equate to national security threats? It’s a matter of policy and opinion that has unfortunately been over-politicized like so many other things in today’s society. But if you think military, economic, health, food, energy, and water security are linked to our national security, and we can demonstrate how the weather and climate affect all of those and more, then the changing climate certainly shapes the future environment affecting our national security. The Honorable Sherri Goodman recently said “if China is our pacing threat, then climate is our shaping threat.” The Biden Administration finally released its National Security Strategy this week, and we provide a brief analysis of climate adaptation and security and why climate belongs in the nation’s highest strategic documents.
References:
- 2022 Biden administration National Security Strategy
- 2017 Trump administration National Security Strategy
- DOD establishes Arctic strategy and global resilience office
Climate and national security (0:00:50)
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Episode 17 - Better Sensing = Better Prediction Show Notes Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: No Guest
Description: Sensing technology and the environmental observations they take provide the data fuel that powers weather prediction. More quality observations are needed across land, sea, and air to more accurately predict everything from the weather tomorrow to high-impact events like the track and intensity of Hurricane Ian for instance. Industry in this area is set to explode as new proprietary sensing technologies are used by companies and with the development of dual-use technology to harness observations from environmental sensors via the Internet of Things (IoT).
References:
- Drone technology leveraged by NOAA to predict Hurricane Ian (Fox News Weather)
- (VIDEO) Riding with the hurricane hunters in Hurricane Ian (CBS News)
- Wave sensors deployed to improve Hurricane Ian forecasts (University of Washington)
- Are global river gauges adequately placed? (Nature)
- Using IoT to help cities react to weather (Forbes)
- New drones could spot wildfires earlier, even help snuff them out (Scientific American)
- Drones Provide Eye-in-the-Sky to Help Fight Fires (USDA)
- Flying, amphibious drones may help us fight wildfires in a warming world (Popular Science)
- Circa January 1961: Lorenz and the Butterfly Effect(American Physical Society)
Hurricane Ian, sensing sensitivities, and data quality (0:01:47)
The importance of sensing technology and observations for predictions (0:10:22)
Filling data gaps and new sensing technology to improve hurricane and other forecasts (0:17:36)
Weather observation applications: water, transportation, agriculture, wildfires, and more (0:24:51)
Future of sensing: drones, dual-use technology, IoT, the cloud, and more (0:29:31)
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Episode 16 - Weathering the Built Environment Show Notes Hosts: Ryan Harris
Guest: No Guest
Description: As Hurricane Ian slammed into the southwestern Florida coast this week, the storm served as a stark reminder of the significant impacts weather and climate have on the built environment. In 2012, Hurricane Sandy brought nearly $70 billion in infrastructure impacts. Flooding, storm surge, temperature and wind loads on buildings, air quality along transportation corridors, environmental impacts to communications infrastructure, and so much more have trillions of dollars of impacts every year on the built environment. In addition to looking at standard weather and climate effects, the industry must leverage future climate model projections so our infrastructure can outlast the changing climate decades into the future.
References:
- Hurricane Ian slams into Florida (USA Today)
- 2014 American Meteorological Society Annual Meeting: Built Environment Focus
- VIDEO: Weather and the Built Environment (UCAR MetEd Tutorial)
- Cal Berkley Center for Built Environment ClimaTool
- 2018 National Climate Assessment: Built Environment Chapter
- Advancing climate-smart construction standards (NOAA)
- NOAA Sea Level Rise Mapping Tool
- FirstStreet Foundation Risk Factor Tool
- Fort Myers development timeline (Landsat, Google Earth Engine)
Hurricane Ian Evacuation (0:00:27)
Built Environment Intro (0:01:13)
Built Environment Industry (0:04:52)
Technologies and Gaps (0:07:17)
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Episode 15 - Global Water Security
Show Notes
Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guests: Mr. Mike Gremillion, Director of the Global Water Security Center and Dr. Kate Brauman, Associate Director for Communications and Analysis
Description: Our human bodies are made of more than 60% water, and water makes up 71% of Earth, yet only 0.5% of the water is drinkable. As the climate continues to change and global population increases, many communities are having to grapple with diminishing water resources. Mike Gremillion and Dr. Kate Brauman are leading the Global Water Security Center to make water data, both domestically and internationally, more available and especially more accessible for governments, industry, and communities to make more informed water management decisions.
References:
Click here for references
(0:01:51)
Introducing the Global Water Security Center
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Defining water security and making water data more accessible
(0:13:03)
Economic value of water data and bridging disconnect
(0:22:17)
Global Water Security Center stakeholders and new NOAA cooperative institute for Hydrology R2O
(0:33:07)
The water footprint: commodities, supply chain, hamburgers, and beer security
(0:44:35)
Lightning Round
(0:59:00)
Insights
(1:02:30)
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Episode 14 - Weather and Climate in Agriculture Show Notes Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: No Guest
Description: The agriculture sector makes up one of the largest market shares supported by the weather and climate industry. In this Triple Point Podcast episode, Jeff and Ryan briefly trace the historical move to agrarian societies to today’s farming and talk about a range of insights and predictions some companies that are monetizing weather information to optimize agriculture production. Jeff introduces (and copyrights) the term “weather arbitrage,” and we also take time to discuss how climate change may impact agriculture in the future. Finally, we introduce our first student spotlight, Michael Plummer from Penn State University.
References:
- Floods devastate Pakistan, including farmland and 1,280 dead (CNN)
- Why are Pakistan’s floods so extreme this year? (Nature)
- La Nina signals wheat worries in midwest (Farm Futures)
- Daily three big things in Agriculture (Successful Farming)
- Weekly crop progress report (USDA)
- Weather futures trading for agriculture, energy, and more (CME)
- Agricultural and food security impacts from the 2010 Russia flash drought (Weather and Climate Extremes)
- Salt in oceans may be next big predictor of rain for crops (Bloomberg)
- Combined Earth Observation, Weather Analytics, and AI for Ag (Geospatial World)
- The transition from hunter-gatherer to farming (Discover Magazine)
- Amid massive shortage, Canada taps strategic reserves of maple syrup (WAPO)
- Florida Climate Institute
- Climate Change Impacts and Adaptation in Florida’s Agriculture (Florida's Climate: Changes, Variations, & Impacts, chapter 8)
- Oak Leaves Contain Potential Cure for Citrus Greening Disease, Researchers Say - UF Innovate
Tracing the move to agrarian societies to today's farming (0:04:58)
Climate changes on agriculture and Pakistan's historic flooding (0:09:23)
Monetizing agriculture forecasting (0:17:23)
The weather arbitrage (copyrighted) (0:20:40)
Is climate change good or bad for agriculture and food security? (0:26:41)
Other weather and climate technologies supporting agriculture (0:40:33)
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Show Notes Hosts: Ryan Harris
Guest: No Guest
Description: Do you know where your energy comes from? The minerals needed for your solar panels and battery technology? The chips in your mobile device that you’re listening to this podcast on? How about the food on your table or the complex supply chain that, as we saw during COVID, really is the oil in the world’s economic engine? Without mining and an efficient supply chain, things like electronics or even toilet paper get scarce. And all of this hinges on solid weather and climate information.
References:
- Modelling of E. Coli bacteria in raw milk in hot weather (Food Research Intl’)
- Mining industry faces an unfamiliar foe: extreme weather (Reuters)
- Report on Adapting to Climate Change: A Guide for the Mining Industry (BSR)
- The minerals used by clean energy technologies (Canary Media)
- How Brazil's drought affects global coffee prices and supply chain (WSJ)
- How exposed is your supply chain to climate risks? (HBR)
- U.S. mineral commodities reports (USGS)
Do you know where your energy comes from? (0:01:11)
Weather disruptions to mining and supply chains (0:02:00)
Current weather and climate industry offerings for the mining and supply chain sector; and gaps (0:07:43)
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Episode 12: Weather in the Line of Fire (Part II: Energy Under Fire)
Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Alex Hoon, Senior Meteorologist at NV Energy
Description: In Part II of our discussion with Alex Hoon from NV Energy, we discuss how energy firms are mitigating future fire risk by using spark-resistant technology on power lines, contracting out additional fire personnel to remove vegetation fuels, and also using high-resolution weather modeling technology to pinpoint precise thunderstorm locations and high risk fire areas based on weather parameters. Taking these measures and using meteorological experts like Alex allow companies like NV Energy to mitigate risks before fires arise. You’ll also hear how the built environment plays a role in fire risk and how a single thunderstorm over Las Vegas can burn millions of dollars and energy resources. Knowing the weather and climate buys down enormous risk for the energy sector.
References: * The Inflation Reduction Act will reduce energy insecurity (Brookings) * Dry lightning and other climate trends increasing future fire risk (Nature)
Timeline: * 0:00:03 - Recap from Part I * 0:05:08 - Energy companies like NV Energy hiring meteorologists * 0:11:00 - Is human development & climate change making wildfires worse? * 0:18:54 - Using advanced tech for energy trading and to mitigate fire risks * 0:24:45 - Renewables * 0:37:00 - Insights
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Show Notes
Episode 11: Weather in the Line of Fire (Part I: The Incident Meteorologist)
Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: Alex Hoon, Senior Meteorologist at NV Energy
Description: Alex Hoon from NV Energy joins us this week to talk about his time “deploying forward” to help battle wildfires out west armed with his weather skills and tactical technology to help him do the job. He spends time breaking down the three elements of the fire triangle (topography, fuels, and weather) and talks about the unprecedented conditions that led to some of the deadliest wildfires in the last decade and U.S. history and even an EF-3 Fire Tornado. While unfortunately several dozen people lost their lives in two such fires in 2018, the work done by incident meteorologists like Alex save countless lives each year by applying expert weather information to a dynamic environment. This is Part I of a two-part show with Alex.
References: * Wettest 24 hours in nearly a century for Dallas-Fort Worth (Yale) * Dallas-Fort Worth rain record (NWS) * Nevada says goodbye to grass due to climate change (CBS) * China extends power curbs amid heatwave, drought (Reuters) * The Inflation Reduction Act will reduce energy insecurity (Brookings) * No water, no micro-chips; what is going on with the drought in Taiwan (Forbes) * 2018 Carr Fire (Wikipedia) * 2018 Camp Fire (Wikipedia) * NOAA’s Multi-Radar Multi-Sensor (MRMS) Viewer
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Episode 10: Powering the Utilities Industry with Weather and Climate Info
Host: Ryan Harris
Guest: No Guest
Description: Even before the recent passage of the historic Inflation Reduction Act climate legislation, the utilities sector was already heavily reliant on weather and climate services. The passage of the IRA and its omission of significant weather services investment opens the door for deeper private sector support to the industry. Everything from energy trading, to direct environmental impacts to water and energy grids, and the growing renewables verticals within the utilities sector depend on accurate and reliable environmental intelligence. This episode sets the stage for a deeper conversation that we’ll have next week with one senior meteorologist working on the front lines of optimizing energy savings and value using advanced weather technology.
References: * 7 steps to make electricity systems more resilient to climate risks * The largest climate and energy package in U.S. history becomes law * Investors flock to green energy funds as climate bill passes (CNBC) * The Importance of Weather and Climate to Energy Systems: A Workshop on Next Generation Challenges in Energy–Climate Modeling (BAMS) * Extreme Weather and Climate Vulnerabilities of the Electric Grid (ORNL) * Op-Ed: The Pentagon must prevent its mounting climate casualties (The Hill) * Understanding global electricity trading (Investopedia) * The Inflation Reduction Act, passed Aug 16, 2022 (i.e. Climate Bill) * Inflation Reduction Act macroeconomic effects (Wharton)
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Episode 9: Weather and Climate in the Public & Charitable Organizations Sector
Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: No Guest
Description: Is there still a place for the government sector to provide weather and climate services? We think so, but as you’ll hear in this episode, Jeff and I believe it takes a symbiotic relationship between governments, multi-lateral organizations, and industry to provide the most optimal environmental intelligence. Although the private sector is advancing weather and climate technology much faster than big bureaucracies, governments still serve as an important focal point for safety, interstate, and international coordination.
References: For a full length of references, visit the Triple Point Podcast Website.
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Episode 8: The Business of Weather and Climate
Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest: No Guest
Description: In two separate reports in 2016 and 2019, NOAA evaluated just the U.S. weather industry to be worth $35 billion. In the last six years starting with IBM’s purchase of The Weather Channel, and especially in the last two years, the industry has likely ballooned even higher as investors, businesses, risk managers, and communities are realizing not only the value of buying down environmental risk, but how to scale technology to the level of what once was only possible by governments. Jeff and Ryan talk about the growing weather and climate business and tee up future podcast episodes that will aim to cover the weather and climate industry sectors.
References: * Weather prediction startups grow as more volatile storms loom (Bloomberg) * Global disparity in the supply of commercial weather and climate services (Science Advances) * Saharan dust reduces hurricane risk over the Atlantic (NASA) * St Louis and Kentucky flooding (NBC) * Panasonic claims to have built the best weather model (Slate, 2016) * Weather forecasting services market size report (Fortune Business Insights) * 2017 National Weather Service Enterprise Analysis Report (NOAA) * 2019-2022 National Weather Service Strategic Plan (NOAA) * NOAA’s National Weather Service * IBM’s The Weather Company * Tomorrow.io * AccuWeather * Jupiter Intel * Cervest * TruWeather Solutions * Meteomatics
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Recording Date: July 27, 2022
Episode: #7 - The Intersection of Climate and Health
Host: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest:Dr. Jesse Bell, the Claire M. Hubbard Professor of Health and Environment, UNMC Department of Environmental, Agricultural and Occupational Health, College of Public Health
Description: Ryan and Jeff sit down with Dr. Jesse Bell, a distinguished scientist who is leading national climate-informed human health research (everything from air and water quality, heat exposure, and vector-borne disease) to improve human health outcomes as climate changes accelerate.
Article and Book References
- Zoe becomes the world’s first named heatwave (Scientific American)
- President launches programs to help Americans deal with extreme heat and higher air conditioning bills (Yahoo News)
- Pacific Northwest sizzles, a precursor to nationwide heatwave next week (Washington Post)
- The impacts of climate change on human health in the U.S. (USGCRP; 2016)
- Exposure science in an age of rapidly changing climate (Journal of Exposure Science and Epidemiology)
- The book of beautiful questions (Warren Berger)
Website References
- New Heat.gov information and resources (NOAA)
- Air quality predictions (Breezometer)
- Daugherty Water for Food Global Institute (Univ. of Nebraska)
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Episode: #6 - Heat Waves, Cows, and Muppets--Oh my!
Host: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest:No Guest
Description: In this episode, Ryan and Jeff talk about the ongoing heat waves across what seems to be the entire world lately and the impacts on society including energy, agriculture, cattle, and more. Even the Muppets get a surprise invocation with one seemingly innocuous word: phenomena!
Article and Book References
- Is climate change causing more “blocking” weather events? (Carbon Brief)
- Silent Killer: A series on surviving the extremely hot future (Atomic Science)
- WMO has no immediate plans to name heatwaves (WMO)
- Texas drought prompts early cattle sales | News | corsicanadailysun.com
- The Limits to Growith with Gaya Herrington (This Sustainable Life Podcast)
- A Land Remembered (Patrick D. Smith)
Website References
- US Drought Monitor
- Agricultural Statistics on Cattle
- What causes a heat dome? (NOAA)
- Different Atmospheric Blocking Patterns (NOAA)
- Statistics on weather-related fatalities (NOAA)
- Low winds affect renewable energy generation in Europe (EU)
- Drought post (Jeff Cunningham LinkedIn)
- Earth Observations for Agriculture (Planet)
- Earth Observations and Machine Learning (Maxar)
- Earth Observation Agriculture Monitoring (ICEYE)
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Episode: #5 - Water Security Part Deux
Host: Ryan Harris
Guest:No Guest / 5-minute Lightning Podcast
Description: In this episode, Ryan dives a little deeper into water security issues threatening the American West illuminated further during his five-week road trip.
Article and Book References
- The lake that left town: why is this California town drying up? (Guardian)
- Jackson Lake at historic low levels (Wyoming Public News)
- Lake Powell reaches now low (NASA)
- Megadrought causes perilously low water levels at Lake Mead (PBS)
- What happens if Glen Canyon Dam’s power shuts off? (Circle of Blue)
- The Southwest is bone dry; now a key water source is at risk (Politico)
Website References
- Google Earth Engine Landsat Timelapse (Zoom into location)
- White House Action Plan on Global Water Security (PDF)
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Episode: #4 - Water Security Teaser
Host: Jeff Cunningham
Guest:No Guest / Lightning 5-minute Podcast
Description: In this episode, Jeff presents a few news articles about shrinking lakes in the US west, some key science data points, and briefly discusses the need for solving this problem.
News References:
- Feds: Lake Mead could become 'useless' without major water use cuts
- As the Great Salt Lake Dries Up, Utah Faces An 'Environmental Nuclear Bomb' - The New York Times
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Episode: #3 - TheBig Earth Data Platform Explosion!
Host: Jeff Cunningham
Guest:No Guest / 10-minute Podcast
Description: In this episode, Jeff presents on the explosion of Big Earth Observation Platforms in the marketplace, discusses their application to society, and makes a prediction on which quality will drive the most economic value. Give us podcast feedback at triplepointpodcast@81degrees.com.
Journal Article and Book References
- An Overview of Platforms for Big Earth Observation Data Management and Analysis
- The Economics of Data, Analytics, and Digital Transformation
Website References
- Google Earth Engine
- Earth on AWS
- The Planetary Computer (Microsoft)
- SentinelHub
- SEPAL
- JEODPP (Now called BDAP?)
- pipsCloud
- Descartes Labs
- Open Data Cube
- OpenEo
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Episode: #2 - The Heat Is On
Host: Ryan Harris
Guest:No Guest / 5-minute Podcast
Description: In this lightning quick podcast, we briefly cover the record-breaking heat baking parts of the globe from India and Pakistan to Texas. Beyond the obvious human health impacts, the heat has detrimental effects on agriculture, energy, and fighting wildfires. Sensor, forecast, and communication technology continue to improve to provide anticipatory heat alerts.
News Article References
- Delhi suffers at 49C as heatwave sweeps India (BBC)
- Heatwave: India’s poor bear the brunt of blistering temperatures (BBC)
- Texas toast: Heat crushed records Saturday and will swell northward (WaPo)
- Spring Heat Wave Smashing Records in the South, Parts of the Midwest into Late Week (TWC)
- India bans wheat exports as heat wave hurts crop, domestic prices soar (Reuters)
- After six power plants go offline amid heat wave, ERCOT asks Texans to conserve energy use (Fort Worth Star Telegram)
- NASA’s ECOSTRESS Detects Heat Islands in Extreme Heat Wave
- Air Force Commits Millions for wearables to counteract troops’ exhaustion (NextGov)
- California proposes heat ranking and warning system (Spectrum)
Website References
- How will climate change change El Nino and La Nina? (NOAA)
- What’s the hottest temperatures the human body can endure? (LiveScience)
- National Weather Service Heat Forecast Tools
- Wireless Emergency Alert (WEA) warning communication
- Google Forecasting and Alert Crisis Response
- DisasterAware Enterprise
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Hosts: Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris
Guest:Matt Stratton, Harrison County, MS Director of Emergency Management
Description: For our first episode we chatted with Matt Stratton from Harrison County, MS Emergency Management. We had a lively discussion on weather and climate, technology and how that connects with society. We also discussed a 2020 “woods” fire that threatened Harrison county communities.
News Article References:
- 'Huge firefight' to defend New Mexico villages, city from blaze | Reuters
- Wildfires across the nation (Reuters)
- Rough Wildfire Year in Boulder (NPR)
- Bronco Ember (NASA-funded cubesat project)
Website References:
- Harrison County Weather
- National Wildfire Preparedness Day
- National Interagency Fire Center
- UN Environment Programme Report: Spreading Like Wildfire
- Fire Map - NASA | LANCE | FIRMS
- fireAlert.App - https://fireAlert.app [Owned and operated by 81 Degrees, LLC]
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Welcome to the Triple Point Podcast, a podcast for those working at the intersection of weather, climate, technology and society. We focus on innovators and leaders working to make our communities safe and resilient in the face of a dynamic and ever changing world. We are your hosts Jeff Cunningham and Ryan Harris.
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