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Humans interact with animals every day of our lives. Even those without pets interact with animals in various ways: diet, wildlife, the clothes they wear, even the medicines they take; all are a intersection. This is a podcast about Anthrozoology: the study of interaction between humans and non-human animals. Our Mission is to make research more accessible the public while bringing the lived experience of our human connection with animals to academia. www.thedealwithanimals.com Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/anthrozoo/support

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Series Eleven will cover episodes 100-104 and finish of the first season of The Deal with Animals.

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In this series we follow five staff members of Maui Humane Society as they experience the August 2023 wildfires on Maui and the extraordinary efforts of the Maui Humane Society staff in the devastating aftermath.

Through personal stories of rescue and recovery. The five colleagues share their harrowing experiences and dedication to saving animals and reuniting them with their families. The narrative explores the cultural and emotional impact on the Maui community, highlighting the deep bonds between humans and their pets.

With firsthand accounts, the series showcases the resilience, compassion, and enduring spirit of the Maui community. The story also addresses broader challenges such as the housing crisis and the importance of learning from past experience to inform and shape the path forward.

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Episode 6 of Series 10: Anthropogenic Behavior Change Transcript

We discuss tactics such as habitat restoration, population augmentation, and ecosystem recovery to protect diverse species and ecosystems while minimizing conflicts.

Guests: Dr. Elizabeth Peterson is an Assistant Professor at the Department of Biological Sciences, Eastern Illinois University. In the Elizabeth K. Peterson Lab
she uses integrative research methods to study how anthropogenic stressors impact behavioral responses and adaptive life history strategies that are important for fitness at the individual and population levels, to develop methods to improve species conservation.

Dr. Rachel Chock serves San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance as a Postdoctoral Associate in Recovery Ecology. As a behavioral ecologist, her research involves combining the fields of animal behavior, ecology, and applied conservation. She is particularly interested in recovery of local endangered species and is focused on incorporating genetic analyses into a behavioral and ecological understanding of these endangered species to inform landscape level management of fragmented populations.

Dr. Julia Young's research at Utah State University focuses on behavior, ecology, and management of carnivores and beavers. Her research aims to reduce negative human-wildlife interactions to facilitate coexistence.

Book Recommendations: Fed Up: Emotional Labor, Women, and the Way Forward by Gemma Hartley, The Trees by Percival Everret, and

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Episode 5 of Series 10: Anthropogenic Behavior Change Transcript

This Episode highlights the challenges faced by wildlife due to roads, such as habitat fragmentation and vehicle collisions, and presents solutions like wildlife crossing structures and community-led projects.

Guests: Julia Kintsch works at the intersection of the human and natural environment to address the effects of roads on landscape connectivity and wildlife movements. She is the founder of ECO-resolutions, one of North America's leading consultancies in transportation ecology, and has been involved in the planning and design of over 20 constructed wildlife crossings with more on the way! She enjoys problem-solving with interdisciplinary teams and partners to develop solutions that offer the greatest benefits for wildlife and people.

Sandra Jacobson is a retired wildlife biologist with decades of experience working with the U.S. Forest Service, focusing on the intricate interactions between roads and wildlife. Her expertise lies in road ecology, where she assesses the impact of highways and other linear infrastructures on wildlife behavior and movement. Sandra's career is marked by a commitment to understanding and mitigating the effects of human-made barriers on natural habitats, aiming to foster a harmonious coexistence between human progress and wildlife conservation.

Book Recommendations: Crossings: How Road Ecology Is Shaping the Future of Our Planet by Ben Goldfarb

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Episode 4 of Series 10: Anthropogenic Behavior Change Transcript

Let's explore the effects of urbanization and industrialization on wildlife behavior, conservation strategies, and what the unique personalities of our urban wildlife neighbors can tell us about behavioral adaptation and societal inequities.
Guests:Dr. Lauren Stanton is a cognitive ecologist with expertise on behavioral adaptation to urban environments. She primarily studies raccoons, and other urban carnivores like coyotes, skunks, and foxes. As a postdoctoral fellow at UC Berkeley, she is working with Dr. Chris Schell to understand the effects of societal inequity on urban carnivores and their interactions with people.

Dr. Kathleen Church is an aquatic ecologist with a research background in fish personality and the conservation of freshwater aquatic habitats. She is currently a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Quebec at Outaouais, and is working on a collaborative project with the Cree Nation of Eeyou Istchee, on fish habitat compensation projects, which are designed to compensate for the damage caused to fish and fish habitats by industrial development.

Book Recommendations: The Overstory: A Novel by Richard Powers and Are You a Cheeseburger? by Monica Arnaldo

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Episode 3 of Series 10: Anthropogenic Behavior Change Transcript

This episode focuses on the complex interactions between humans and animals like elephants, cranes and cetaceans. We are discussing strategies such as having our human farming practices mimic more closely the natural environment , phasing out monocrop farming , And remembering the role of traditional knowledge in promoting harmonious relationships.

Guests: Dr. Bruce Schulte is Associate Vice-President for Strategy, Performance and Accountability at Western Kentucky University (WKU) and a University Distinguished Professor. Bruce has studied elephants now for over 30 years. As a conservation behavior biologist, Bruce combines research on communication and other facets of animal behavior with applications for improving human wildlife interactions and wildlife conservation.

Dr Misty McPhee, Associate Professor of Environmental Studies and Biology at University of Wisconsin Oshkosh, her Research Interests include Endangered Species, Conservation Biology, and Animal Behavior. All of Dr. McPhee’s courses revolve around issues of sustainability. She is a member of the Whooping Crane Reintroduction Team, conducting research designed to increase the success of the whooping crane reintroduction program in Wisconsin. Mcphee Lab

Dr Mauricio Cantor, a behavioural ecologist interested in understanding the dynamics of social, cultural and ecological systems. Mauricio is an Assistant Professor at the Department of Fisheries, Wildlife and Conservation Sciences at Oregon State University where he leads a research group on the intersections of animal behavior and human dimensions. They focus on marine mammals due to their behavioral diversities, learning abilities, and social complexities.

Book Recommendations: Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel by Carl Safina, Ravens in Winter by Bernd Heinrich, and Biophilia by E.O. Wilson

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Episode 2 of Series 10: Anthropogenic Behavior Change Transcript

In this episode we delve into how sensory pollution, particularly artificial light, affects wildlife behavior, focusing on insects, spiders, birds, and predator-prey interactions. We discuss the consequences of light pollution on ecosystems, research efforts, and strategies for mitigating the effects through legislation and urban planning.

Guests: Dr. Brett Seymour, an associate professor at the University of Texas at El Paso, his research interests include how animals interact with their visual environment and how light pollution disrupts natural behaviors, physiology and ecosystem services in arthropods and their predators!

Dr. Jennifer Phillips is an assistant professor at Washington State University. Jenny's research focuses on animal behavior communication and the effects of human activity on wildlife, especially passerine birds, specifically, she's interested in how functional traits are affected by landscapes and sensory pollution, and whether changes in these traits lead to population and community level ecological consequences.

Book Recommendations: The Darkness Manifesto: On Light Pollution, Night Ecology, and the Ancient Rhythms that Sustain Life by Johan Eklöf and Wildscape: Trilling Chipmunks, Beckoning Blooms, Salty Butterflies, and other Sensory Wonders of Nature by Nancy Lawson

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Episode 1 Series 10: Anthropogenic Behavior Change Transcript

This episode covers the effects of rapid environmental change on animals, urban ecology, adaptation challenges, and conservation efforts and emphasizes the significance of understanding animal communication and sounds in urban areas.

Guests: Rachel is an Assistant Professor at Cal Poly Pomona. She is an ecologist who is intrigued by how dynamic disturbances (like fire and human disturbance) impact animal behavior and community assembly. Her work is often inspired by conservation problems faced by her natural resource management collaborators. Rachel is also committed to working towards equity and inclusion in science, via her involvement in community science as well as experiential learning and representation for underserved students and scholars. Outside of science, she enjoys snowboarding, surfing, and going on adventures with her wife and chihuahua.

Kasey is an evolutionary biologist interested in how animal communities are coping with a rapidly-changing world. Her lab researches how human-induced changes in temperature, water availability and noise affect insect and arachnid communication, mating behavior, and predator-prey interactions. Outside of science, she is an avid rock climber, a hobby stain-glass worker, and mom to two little kids.

Book Recommendations: An Immense World by Ed Yong and The Animals in That Country by Laura Jean McKay

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Anthropogenic Behavior Change refers to the changes in wildlife behavior brought about through human made changes to the environment.

Anthropogenic Environmental Change refers to alterations in the natural environment brought about by human activities. These changes encompass a wide range of impacts, from the emission of greenhouse gases leading to global climate change, to deforestation, pollution of air, water, and soil, and the depletion of natural resources. Human actions such as industrialization, urbanization, agriculture, and transportation have intensified these environmental changes, disrupting ecosystems and biodiversity on a global scale.

Talking about anthropogenic behavior and environmental change is vital for fostering awareness, driving action, and shaping a more sustainable and resilient future for both the planet and its inhabitants.

In this series we will be covering...

  1. Rapid Environmental Change: Dr. Rachel Blakey and Dr. Kasey Fowler-Finn

  2. Sensory Pollution: Dr. Brett Seymoure and Dr. Jennifer Phillips

  3. Conflict and Coexistence with Dr. Bruce Schulte, Dr. Mauricio Cantor, and Dr. Misty McPhee

  4. Urbanization and Industrialization: Dr. Lauren Stanton and Dr. Kathleen Church

  5. Road Ecology : Julia Kintsch( ECO-resolutions) and Sandra Jacobson (retired- U.S. Forest service)

  6. Reintroductions and Management: Dr. Rachel Chock, Dr. Julie Young, and Dr. Liz Peterson

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Episode 6 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript

This Episode explores the transition from traditional animal experimentation to human-relevant testing methods with guest Dr. Aysha Akhtar. This thought-provoking conversation is about the ethical, scientific, and practical limitations of animal testing in favor of more accurate, human-relevant methodologies like organ-on-a-chip technology.

Guest: Aysha Akhtar, M.D., M.P.H., is the Co-founder, President, and CEO of the Center for Contemporary Sciences, (CCS) which is pioneering the transition to replace the use of animals in experimentation with superior human-based testing methods. A military veteran, she is a double-board certified neurologist and preventive medicine specialist. She served as Deputy Director of the U.S. Army Traumatic Brain Injury Program. As a Commander in the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, Dr. Akhtar frequently deployed to assist with national public health emergencies.
For a decade, Aysha was a Medical Officer at the Food and Drug Administration, most recently in the Office of Counterterrorism and Emerging Threats, Her work has appeared in numerous articles and she has been interviewed for the New Yorker, New York Times, National Geographic, and WIRED, among others. Publications include the Cambridge Quarterly of Healthcare Ethics, Pediatrics, Journal of Public Health Policy, Lancet, and Reviews in the Neurosciences.
Aysha is a Fellow of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics. Our Symphony With Animals. On Health, Empathy and Our Shared Destinies and Animals and Public Health.

Book Recommendation: Animal Liberation Now by Peter Singer and Our Symphony With Animals. On Health, Empathy and Our Shared Destinies and Animals and Public Health.

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"If you are interested in making the world better for animals, doing something about climate change, solving any social justice problems, veganism is going to be a necessary step." - Pattrice Jones

Episode 6 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript
Discussing the realities of racism, sexism, and speciesism, we explore how these issues are not standalone problems but are intricately linked. Vine Sanctuary, a beacon of hope and healing, exemplifies the power of community alliances — a sanctuary not just for animals but for humans too, particularly those from marginalized LGBTQ and BIPOC communities.
This episode isn't just about animal activism; it's an exploration of deep-seated ideologies and the political weight of our personal choices.

Guest: Pattrice Jones is a cofounder of VINE Sanctuary, an LGBTQ-led refuge for farmed animals, as well as an internationally recognized ecofeminist scholar and activist. Her new book, Bird's-Eye Views: Queer Queries About Activism, Animals, and Identity, collects essays by Pattrice jones on numerous topics relevant to human-animal relations.
Book Recommendation: Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity by Bruce Bagemihl

Other Links: The Oxen at the Intersection by Pattrice Jones

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E16: Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Part 1E22: Ecofeminism and Entangled EmpathyE28: Animal Care Deserts, Accessibility and Love…

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"I'm going to climb mountains as a vegan or I'm not going to do it at all. So that's very clear in my mind. I know vegans can get enough protein. I had been a vegan for eight years already by then." - Kuntal Joisher

Episode 5 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript

Our guest, an Indian vegan mountaineer and nutrition coach, shatters the stereotype that peak physical performance requires animal-based nutrition. Joisher myth busts and inspires throughout this episode with his knowledge and experience as a mountaineer and a personal trainer to those on a vegan journey.

Guest: Kuntal Joisher is the first Indian Vegan mountaineer, hailing from Mumbai, India. His expeditions to some of the world’s most dangerous mountains are driven by a profound personal mission as a Vegan champion, Dementia awareness advocate and a Humanitarian inspiration.
Kuntal has been on several expeditions and the most significant to date has been his famous feat, his lifelong Everest dream. Kuntal started out his career as a Software Engineer, rather an unassuming happy-go-lucky chap, the guy next door, running the nine-to-five rat race. Then one day, Everything changed!

Book Recommendations: No Shortcuts to the Top: Climbing the World's 14 Highest Peaks by Ed Viesturs and Think Like a Vegan by Emilia A. Leese and Eva J. Charalambides

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"A lot of babies are born with an allergy to the protein in cow's milk that can transfer through breast milk, if you consume dairy as the mother....and a common thing that doctors will tell you to do is to eliminate certain things from your own diet to make the breast milk easier for your child to digest. Dairy {from cows} is one of those top things. " - Jessica Scott-Reid

Episode 4 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript

When Jessica Scott-Reed's young daughter developed a dairy allergy, it catapulted their family on an voyage into veganism. Our latest episode welcomes Jessica, a journalist and animal advocate, who shares her personal evolution as a vegan mother and the joys and hurdles of raising a vegan child in today's world.

Guest: Jessica Scott-Reid is a Canadian freelance journalist and animal advocate. She has been covering animal rights and welfare, food systems and climate change topics for major media in Canada and beyond for the past decade. Her work can be found regularly in The Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, Winnipeg Free Press, and Corporate Knights Magazine. She is also a regular contributor to Sentient Media. She is also a mom and dog guardian. Guest Profile and Episode Blog

Book Recommendations: EdgyVeg East Eats by Candice Hutchings and The Sexual Politics of Meat by Carol J. Adams
Other Links: The School Night Vegan
Sentient Media- Jessica Scott-Reid
Open Farm Days article
Vegan Mac and Cheese Recipe

Other Episodes: 31: Attitudes Towards Animals with Matti Wilks (S5)32: Animal Advocacy in The Classroom with Mike Farley (S5)41: Lynda Korimboccus The Peppa Pig Paradox (S5)

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Dr. Richard Sugg, a connoisseur of animal narratives, joins us to unravel the mystery of dogs' navigational prowess in an exploration of the extraordinary capabilities of our four-legged friends, we delve into historical and modern-day research on animal homing instincts.

Guest: Richard Sugg (PhD) is the author of 16 books, including Mummies, Cannibals and Vampires (2011), a collection of 19th century animal stories, A Singing Mouse at Buckingham Palace (2017), Fairies: A Dangerous History (2018), The Real Vampires (2023) and Talking Dirty: A History of Disgust from Jesus Christ to Boris Johnson (2023). I am currently working on, Uncanny Animals: the Epic Homing Adventures of Dogs & Cats and a collection of historic and modern dog stories to commemorate the Feb 2024 centenary of Bobbie the Wonder Dog: Around the World in 180 Dogs. 'Are we smart enough to know how smart animals are?'
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Book Recommendations: The Wilderness World of John Muir ed by Edwin Way Teale and The Door Marked Summer by Michael Bentine

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E17: The Civet Lovers Club with PhD Candidate Jes Hooper

57: Valentines Special!: Furry Fandom with Victoria Gersdorf

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" I think very often people think that leather is not so bad because they think it's just a byproduct of the meat industry. The fact is that leather is actually a co-product of the meat industry. The cattle industry could not be profitable without the leather industry, they're tied together. It's a co-product." - Ashley Byrne, Director of Outreach PETA

Episode 3 of Series 9: Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript

Can your wardrobe choices spark a revolution? It's a provocative thought, and with PETA's Director of Outreach, Ashley Byrne, we tackle this head-on. Our latest episode peels back the layers of the fashion industry's dynamic with veganism. It's not just about what we wear, but the statement we make to the world about our values.
Yet, the imprint of vegan fashion extends far beyond the wardrobe. We delve into the emotional and environmental toll of industries reliant on animal exploitation, empathizing with the workers who bear unseen scars.

Guest: Ashley Byrne, Director of Outreach for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has been on the front lines of many provocative and highly effective animal rights campaigns.
She has overseen several successful PETA campaigns—including some of the most provocative— https://www.instagram.com/ashlovesmongo/?hl=en

Book Recommendation: Free the Animals: The Amazing, True Story of the Animal Liberation Front in North America (30th Anniversary Edition) by Ingrid Newkirk

Other Episodes:E12: The Possum Predicament with Researcher Emily Major (PhD)E15:The History of the Conservation Movement with Author and Journalist, Michelle Nijhuis

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"Everyone can pick and choose what they want to do in the program. We don't even measure what they do. We don't track them. There's no vegan police. We just share all the knowledge as much as we can to help them discover all the things, all the benefits, all the types of foods." - Sandra Hungate

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The Veganuary movement encourages people to try a vegan lifestyle each January and beyond. We discuss the environmental and health benefits as well as challenges of integrating vegan habits into lifestyles. Sandra, US Director at Veganuary, offers various strategies to facilitate the shift to veganism stating that alternatives to animal products are readily available. Tales of her own experiences are shared, along with simple recipes that replace the use of animal products in cooking.

Guest: Made aware of animal testing in pharma and cosmetics, Sandra has been advocating against animal testing since she was a child. Sandra gave up meat in her early and fully transitioned to vegan a few years later after learning about the dairy industry. Sandra has been working in marketing for sustainable living and eating for most of her career and recently started working at Veganuary. Now vegan for over 6 years, she dedicates her work and volunteer time to helping animals.
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You Are Crazy to Eat This by Christophe Brusset
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"We don't share a lot of things. We don't really share much language with animals. We don't really understand all the instincts of animals, but, we do share embodiment with them. And so that becomes a basis for imagining what their perspective is like, just like it becomes the basis for understanding what's going on with other people."
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Dr. Maurice Hamington

Episode 1 of Series 9 Unveiling Vegan Culture Transcript
In this episode we invite philosophy professor Maurice Hammington to explore the world of veganism and the moral imagination that underpins it.
Our goal is to question the norm and inspire thought, broadening the scope of our collective understanding. This episode is an exploration of the intersection of animal ethics, veganism, and care theory.

Guest: Maurice has authored or edited twelve books including Care Ethics and Poetry (Palgrave MacMillan 2019) authored with Ce Rosenow, Care Ethics and Political Theory, with Daniel Engster (Oxford University Press 2015). Maurice is a Member of the International Consultants for The Melete Center of Philosophy for Care. University of Verona and a Steering Committee Member of the international Care Ethics Research Consortium, Utrecht, The Netherlands.
He and his partner Stephanie love living and hiking in the Pacific Northwest as well as enjoying the local vegan cuisine. Maurice's Website
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Book Recommendations: Caring: A Relational Approach to Ethics and Moral Education by Nel Noddings
Revolutionary Care: Commitment and Ethos by Maurice Hamington PhD

Other Links:E22: Ecofeminism and Entangled Empathy with Dr. Lori Gruen31: Attitudes Towards Animals with Matti Wilks (S5)47: Expressions of Emotion in Animals with Dr. Mariska Kret (S6)

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You may remember. Back from October 16th, this last year, 2023. I was a guest on a really great podcast called, All Around Science. It's a really fun podcast hosted by two huge science nerds, that help us learn all sorts of really cool scientific things that are going on right now.

I really wanted to introduce you all to Maura and Bobby and all around science..

So I invited them to put together a couple of the segments from their past episodes that closely relate to Anthrozoology or the connection and interaction between humans and other animals. And here is what they have brought to us.

Guests: Maura and Bobby are two people who love talking about science so much that they did what everyone does in the 2020s… They started a podcast! They have a passion for education and science communication, and all they really want you to do is to love learning about the world as much as they do.
Bobby Frankenberger is an audio producer and science communicator by day, and a stay-at-home dad also by day... It's a busy existence. Between reading science news in the school carpool line, editing podcasts, and cooking dinner, Bobby finds time to volunteer to teach science and math in elementary schools and fly planes.
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December Special #1 ! Transcript
What if you could uncover the secrets behind the extraordinary bond between humans and their canine companions? Renowned authors and dog-lovers Jen Golbeck and Stacy Colino join us to explore this fascinating topic in detail. Their latest book, "The Purist Bond: Understanding the Human-Canine Connection," beautifully explores the science behind how dogs enhance our lives in countless ways. The duo shares intriguing insights from their research, personal experiences, and their collaborative writing journey.

This episode takes you on an enlightening journey through the world of dog ownership. We share the joys and challenges of raising these loving animals.

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Jen Golbeck is the “internet’s dog mom” and creator of the social media sensation The Golden Ratio. A professor at the University of Maryland’s College of Information Studies. She and her husband rescue golden retrievers who are senior or who have special medical needs and give them a safe and comfortable life. Find out more at JenGolbeck.com.

Stacey Colino is an award-winning writer specializing in health and psychological issues. She is the coauthor of numerous books, including Count Down, Emotional Inflammation, and Disease Proof. Stacey is a lifelong dog lover and has owned three rescue dogs.

Guest Book Recommendations: The Hidden Life of Dogs by Elizabeth Marshall Thomas, The Art of Racing in the Rain by Garth Stein and The Soul of All Living Creatures: What Animals Can Teach Us About Being Human by Vint Virga

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Episode 8 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript

This discussion with Nanette McCann, executive director of Homeward Pet Adoption Center, and Corey Regnerus-Kell, general manager for animal services at the Royal New Zealand SPCA, will unmask the various strategic shifts these organizations have undertaken in response to the pandemic, we'll explore topics ranging from operational changes, volunteer engagement, and fundraising, to the profound and enduring human-animal connection.

The conversation takes a deep dive into the difficulties of managing an influx of animals in need, ensuring their welfare, and maintaining staff morale despite these challenging times. Nanette and Corey share how they navigated these changes and the ripple effect it had on volunteer numbers and engagement.

Guests: Born and raised in Florida, USA, Corey Regnerus-Kell, has embarked on a journey with animals since he was young. While working towards becoming a Veterinarian, he worked as a Veterinary Technician for general practice as well as Small Animal Emergency Medicine throughout several veterinary clinics in South and Centra Florida. Most recently he was appointed as the General Manager for RNZ SPCA in New Zealand looking after the 29 centres, the National Animal Welfare Inspectorate and National Desexing (spey & neuter) Programme. He lives on a small block with his husband and son and their real life ‘McDonald’s Farm’ with everything from Ostriches down to Guinea Pigs!

Nanette McCann joined Homeward Pet as the Executive Director in 2018. It was Homeward Pet’s reputation for community engagement and volunteer dedication that spoke to Nanette’s personal values over her 30+ year career as a non-profit professional. She proudly leads a staff of 27 full and part time passionate welfare professionals, successfully partners with her 18 member board of directors and has set the goal of Homeward Pet owning its forever home by 2031. Nanette is the mom of five girls, ages 32 to 8, and two fur-babies, Frankie and Ursula.

Book Recommendations: The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom (A Toltec Wisdom Book) by Don Migel Ruiz
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"I prefer to ask people, have you had dogs before? What did you love about them? If you could pull those qualities from that dog, the things you love most about him, what were they? And if you'd had a magic wand what would I like to just tweak a little bit."
**- Suzanne Clothier

Episode 8 of series 8:** The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript ( Part2)

Have you ever wondered what goes into assessing shelter animals and adopting the perfect pet? We sat down with Suzanne Clothier, an expert in the field, to unravel the complexities and nuances of animal assessments. Our discussion delves into her unique animal assessment tools - CARAT, RAT, and FAT, and how they contribute to understanding behavior. We also take an in-depth look at how our emotions and biases can affect our decisions when it comes to selecting our next four legged-family member.

Guest: Suzanne Clothier has worked with animals professionally since 1977, with a background includes obedience, agility, puppy testing, breeding, Search and Rescue, conformation, instructing, kennel management and AAT.
Her Relationship Centered Training™ approach blends science and heart to create humane, effective and practical solutions for dogs and the people who work with them, whether professional working dogs or couch warming companions. Her suite of assessment tools provide a powerful framework for trainers and organizations:

RAT™ (Relationship Assessment Tool) – handler/dog dynamics, rapid assessment plus ability to track and compare
CARAT™ (Clothier Animal Response Assessment Tool) – temperament assessment on 6 categories, 21 dimensions
FAT™ (Functional Assessment Tool, release in 2022) – global of functionality/welfare assessment across physiological, social and cognitive dimensions

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Kinship with All Life by J. Allen Boone and Behaving As If the God in All Life Mattered by Machaelle Small Wright and An Immense World by Ed Yong

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"So I'm asking very different questions in how I set up the test, because I want to know what is your native response here? Not a trained response, not a prompted response. I'm not begging you or just simply orienting you to me because I'm doing something. I want to know what you do if I just do my thing and you're in the same space. So the questions are different automatically." -Suzanne Clothier

Episode 7 of Series 8 (Part 1) Transcript

Ever wondered why dogs behave the way they do? Understanding the nuances of the right questions to ask can dramatically influence the lives of shelter animals and their adoption success. Suzanne's insights will change your perspective on how you think about canine evaluations.

We'll introduce you to Suzanne's innovative assessment tool that simplifies understanding temperament, aiding those in the shelter industry to make more informed decisions.

he challenges of working in a shelter can be immense. From matching a dog to the right forever home, to making the difficult choice of euthanasia due to limited resources. Learn how asking the right questions and understanding the psyche of our canine companions can make all the difference. With Suzanne's tools such as the Animal Response Assessment Tool, Relationship Assessment Tool, and the new Functional Assessment Tool, we'll explore how to navigate these complexities, ensuring more successful adoptions and happier shelter dogs. Tune in for a deep dive into the challenges shelter workers face, and the incredible difference they can make in the lives of our furry friends.

Guest: Suzanne Clothier has worked with animals professionally since 1977, with a background includes obedience, agility, puppy testing, breeding, Search and Rescue, conformation, instructing, kennel management and AAT.
Her Relationship Centered Training™ approach blends science and heart to create humane, effective and practical solutions for dogs and the people who work with them, whether professional working dogs or couch warming companions. Her suite of assessment tools provide a powerful framework for trainers and organizations:

RAT™ (Relationship Assessment Tool) – handler/dog dynamics, rapid assessment plus ability to track and compare
CARAT™ (Clothier Animal Response Assessment Tool) – temperament assessment on 6 categories, 21 dimensions
FAT™ (Functional Assessment Tool, release in 2022) – global of functionality/welfare assessment across physiological, social and cognitive dimensions

Book Recommendations: (see part 2)!

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They are so magical and meaningful, and I mean magical in the magical sense. I mean, just as in open your eyes and look at them. Just look at what they are doing and there is difficulty and there is hardship in their lives, but they just carry on.- Andrew AndersonOctober Special #2 Transcript
Today, we have a guest who is here to share insights about his new book, "The Magic of Cats." With a background in creative writing and an adventure into the realm of Celtic bear gods, Andrew Anderson takes us on a fascinating journey exploring the complex world of cat symbolism, from ancient Egyptian beliefs to the association between cats and witchcraft. He challenges stereotypes surrounding cats and offers a fresh perspective on these beloved creatures, inviting us to see them as more than just enigmatic familiars.

We'll also be navigating the intriguing history of cats, particularly the dark superstitions that have surrounded and impacted them over the years. Andrew will guide us through the complex legacy of this history on the cats we adore today, shedding light on the unjust persecution of black cats. Get ready to journey through various spiritual practices associated with cats, their portrayal in literature, and the important role they play in Islamic and Chinese cultures.

Guest: After trying a number of spiritualties, Andrew discovered Druidry in 2015. He is currently studying the Druid grade with the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids. He moved to Stratford-upon-Avon in 1996 and has lived there ever since. He has recently retrained as an Environmental Manager to put his love of nature and the environment to practical use . Andrew loves story-telling in all its forms, whether it be poetry, novels, theatre, film or TV. He enjoys going to open mic events, reading his poetry and hearing the work of others. He loves working with the spirit of a place and loves spending time in the nearby Cotswold hills. He doesn't have any children but does have two cats, who are just as much of a handful! @ajanderson72 on Instagram

Book Recommendations: Watership Down: A Novel by Richard Adams and A Black Fox Running by Brian Carter

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Have you ever imagined finding yourself inside the belly of a whale, like a bizarre narrative pulled straight out of myth or biblical lore? Allow us to lead you through a captivating conversation with celebrated author Daniel Kraus, as he unravels the themes of his latest gripping novel, Whalefall, a survival tale set inside a sperm whale. Get ready to probe into the blurred lines between monsters and heroes, and comprehend the profound ways our understanding of the world is shaped by the intricate connections we share with animals.

Guest: DANIEL KRAUS (he/him) is the New York Times bestselling author of more than a dozen novels and graphic novels. He coauthored The Living Dead with legendary filmmaker George A. Romero. With Guillermo del Toro, he coauthored The Shape of Water, based on the same idea the two created for the Oscar-winning film. Also with del Toro, Kraus coauthored Trollhunters, which was adapted into the Emmy-winning Netflix series. He has won two Odyssey Awards (for Rotters and Scowler), and The Death and Life of Zebulon Finch was named one of Entertainment Weekly’s Top 10 Books of the Year. His books have been Library Guild selections, YALSA Best Fiction for Young Adults picks, Bram Stoker finalists, and more. His work has been translated into over twenty languages. Daniel lives with his wife in Chicago. Visit him at DanielKraus.com.

Book Recommendation: Men, Women, and Chain Saws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film by Carol J. Clover and The Plague Dogs by Richard Adams and Fathoms: The World in the Whale by Rebecca Giggs

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It is not about animals. It is not about people. There is not a increase in cruelty and neglect in this country. There is not an increase in horrible dogs. The system is lower functioning than it's been in a long time. It's moving more slowly and it never really worked in the first place. - Kristen Hassen

Episode 6 of Series 8 Transcript
In this episode we dive headfirst into the complexities of animal shelters while also
shedding light on the systemic issues that animal shelters battle. We'll delve into the delicate balance within the shelter system, as the staff strive to serve both the animals and the public.

Guest: Over the previous decade, I’ve led three, large, government animal shelters in major U.S. cities. I’ve demonstrated that effectively leading animal services agencies requires a careful balance among five elements: public health and safety, lifesaving outcomes, community programs, humane care, and cost efficiency. I believe the most successful animal shelters engage their entire community in solutions, opening their doors, making it easy to help, and celebrating every single person who helps lost and homeless pets.
Today, I provide consultation and support services to many of the nation’s largest and most high-profile animal shelters. I also lead projects and provide consultative services to numerous national organizations including Petco Foundation, Pedigree Foundation, Banfield Foundation, VCA Charities, and Best Friends Animal Society.

Book Recommendations: All About Love: New Visions by Bell Hooks and The Lives and Deaths of Shelter Animals: The Lives and Deaths of Shelter Animals by Katja M. Guenther
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Episode 5 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript

Discover a groundbreaking initiative between Father Joe's Villages and Helen Woodward Animal Center. This unique collaboration is changing the sheltering landscape and enhancing the lives of both humans and animals by allowing individuals experiencing homelessness to stay with their beloved pets.

We delve into the concept of co-sheltering, a lifeline to individuals grappling with financial hardship, especially in the wake of the pandemic. We're joined by Jesse Casement, Division Director of Client Services at Father Joe's Villages and Jessica Gercke, Peer Director at Helen Woodward Animal Center. as we discuss the importance of comforting both humans and their furry family members in times of crisis.

Guests: Jesse Casement has dedicated her past 13 years with the largest service provider in San Diego to supporting San Diegans experiencing homelessness. In that time, she has championed the progressive view that shelters should welcome pets along with their humans — a policy that, for many neighbors in need, has been truly life-changing. Jesse has fostered relationships with local animal welfare organizations and veterinary providers in order to bring resources, education, and support to the clients living at Father Joe’s Villages with their animals, as well as to the Father Joe’s Villages staff who strive to create a welcoming and safe environment for people and their pets. Apart from her role at Father Joe’s Villages, Jesse is a member of the Co-Sheltering Collaborative, a peer-to-peer learning network focused on sheltering people and their animals together.

Jessica Gercke has spent over 25 years creating and refining media/publicity campaigns for a wide variety of professional industries. Through it all, her heart and soul belonged to animals. She has put her knowledge of marketing and publicity to work for Helen Woodward Animal Center over the last 11 years. This work means that she has been surrounded by animals every day for the last 4,000 days and involved in highlighting the programs that rely on the incredible bond between people and pets. Sharing these unique stories with the world has been the happiest joy of her life thus far.

Book Recommendations: Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro The Housemaid's Secret by Freida McFadden and

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September Special Episode! With Grisha Stewart, best know for her book Ahimsa Dog Training, BAT, and The Grisha Stewart Academy, as well as the remarkable, Laurie C. Williams (The Dog Diva), who has seen it all in her 35 years of dog training.

There has been dramatic transformations the dog training industry over the past few decades, from the use of aversives to the kinder and more empowering positive reinforcement methods. Eager to learn how trainers have navigated this shift and still manage to communicate effectively with dogs? You're in the right place.

This episode is a sneak preview to September 20th's virtual rendezvous of renowned dog trainers and behavior experts like Chirag Patel, Debbie McMullen, Jordan Shelley, Laurie Williams, and Michael Shikashio, all gathered for a candid and captivating canine confab.

Join in on September 20th at 10 am Pacific Time in Zoom at the Grisha Stewart Academy for this invaluable discussion.

Don't miss out; fetch your spot at http://school.grishastewart.com/courses/shift today!

Book Recommendations: Transformation Through Intimacy, Revised Edition: The Journey toward Awakened Monogamy by Robert Augustus Masters and
All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten: Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things by Robert Fulghum

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Episode Four in Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript

Have you ever considered the power of storytelling in animal advocacy? We chat with Arin Greenwood, a passionate advocate for animal welfare and a riveting storyteller. In this conversation we explore Arin's experiences in animal welfare journalism, the strategies she employs to engage the community, and uncover the potential of her work to challenge restrictive pet laws.

Arin unravels her favorite dog books, and we discuss about the importance of animals in our lives. Learn about the human-animal relationship through her eyes, and understand how accessible strategies (like nose-boops!) can connect animal shelters with their communities. Arin's passion for animals shines through her work, and her insights provide a refreshing perspective on animal advocacy.

Guest: Arin Greenwood is an animal writer and former lawyer living in St. Petersburg, Florida. Arin was animal welfare editor for The Huffington Post. Her stories about cats, dogs, and other critters have been published in the Dodo, Today.com, the Washington Post, the American Bar Association Journal, Creative Loafing, Slate, and other publications. Arin now works in animal nonprofits. including Her novel Your Robot Dog Will Die was published by Soho Teen in 2018, and has been optioned by Centerboro Productions.

Book Recommendations: Pit Bull: The Battle Over An American Icon by Bromwen Dickey and Lessons in Chemistry: A Novel by Bonnie Garmus

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Episode 3 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript

In our discussion, we traverse through Dr. Jervis's intriguing research (Along with Collaborator Laura Bray) on relocating companion animals from the overpopulated regions of the Southern US to the North, a mission that's changing the landscape of animal welfare. We discuss the complexities that exist between the preferences of potential adopters and the available animals, and the compelling need some feel to act as rescuers.

Guest: Lori Jervis (PhD, FGSA) is a Professor of Anthropology and Co-Director of the Center for Applied Social Research at the University of Oklahoma. She is a medical and cultural anthropologist as well as a gerontologist. Her animal-related research includes free-roaming dogs in a tribal community and relationships between Purple Martins and the “landlords” who care for them. Her most recent study focuses on the relocation of companion animals from the southern US to the North as a strategy for reducing space-related killing in shelters. (Link to Her Research**)

Book Recommendations:** The Human Manure Handbook by Joseph Jenkins
Flight Ways: Life and Loss at the Edge of Extinction byThom Van Dooren

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Episode 2 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare

Ashley's insights shed light on the complex challenges faced by underserved communities in the realm of animal welfare.
However, it's not all grim. Ashley shares the transformative work being done by Pets for Life. The program extends its services to over 50 cities in the U.S., offering access to pet services for individuals living in poverty.

Guest: Ashley Anderson-Mutch is a Senior Program Manager of Enforcement and Policy Reform with Pets for Life at the Humane Society of the United States. She works with animal welfare organizations across the country to address areas of inequity with internal and external policies that disproportionately affect underserved communities and communities of color. She strives to help develop an understanding of the way in which animal welfare is connected to larger issues of institutional discrimination and historical oppression for people.
She also works with several municipal shelter organizations and local animal enforcement teams to implement community based support practices.

Book Recommendations: Stamped from the Beginning: A Graphic History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X. Kendi and Joel Christian Gill and The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune

Links: Pets for Life -Map

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E28: Animal Care Deserts, Accessibility and Love with CARE CEO, James Evans

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Episode 1 of Series 8: The World of Animal Sheltering
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Ever thought about the misconceptions that surround nuisance wildlife management or how those misconceptions might be affecting policies and attitudes? Join us for a compelling discussion with Scott Giacoppo, Director of National Shelter Outreach for Best Friends Animal Sanctuary.

"when you are talking about killing animals for population management, it has proven not to work, right? It doesn't work. It never has, and it never will. And if it did work, we wouldn't have to repeat it every single year." - Scott Giacoppo

Listen as we bust 7 myths and underscore the need for shelters to build relationships with adopters, and discuss proactive ways to support existing pet owners. Through it all, Scott challenges us to reconsider our obligations to animals, the biases that might be clouding our judgment, and how we can all strive towards a more sustainable model of animal care. You don't want to miss this conversation, packed with thought-provoking insights and stories that will inspire you to redefine your relationship with the animal kingdom.

Book Recommendation: Switch: How to Make Change When Change Is Hard- by Dan Heath and Chip Heath
The Five Dysfunctions of a Team: A Leadership Fable- by Patrick Lencioni
Other Links:Pets For Life
Bear Releases in DC/MD
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We sit down with Françoise Malby-Anthony , acclaimed author and passionate wildlife conservationist. Françoise brings to the table her invaluable experiences at the forefront of animal conservation in South Africa, where she and her late husband Lawrence Anthony created a sanctuary for elephants at the Thula Thula Game Reserve. This episode is not just about touching stories and encounters with wildlife - it promises a unique insight into the harsh realities and monumental challenges faced by those fighting to protect these majestic creatures.

The July Special Episode: Transcript
Key Moments:
- Thula Thula How it got started
- Poaching and rhino honrs
- education about Rhino horns and what actually happens
- The trade (and storage) in Rhino horns
- Elephants role in creation of environments
- Why are Orphaned Rhinos sterile?
- A host of other dramatic stories

Book Recommendation: ⁠⁠The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari: A Fable About Fulfilling Your Dreams & Reaching Your Destiny⁠⁠ by Robin Sharma
The Elephants of Thula Thula by Françoise Malby-Anthony

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  • Details about upcoming Specials
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  • The move to Buzzsprout FYI
  • Series 8 info!
  • Full theme music (for those of you who want to rock out)

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"...we have a very narrow view of what ancestors actually are. We, we tend to think of them only in terms of blood relations. Instead of the, the vastness of what could potentially be Ancestor." -Ben Stimpson

Episode 6 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine Transcript

What we Discuss:

  • Uncover the fascinating connections between all species and their impact.
  • Find out how to integrate animals into your spiritual journey for a more profound experience.
  • Explore the idea of personhood for animals and its potential consequences.
  • Delve into the importance of analyzing animal behavior without human-centric biases.
  • Cultivate empathy and kindness towards the environment and its creatures.
  • Beaver Testicles (I'm just gonna leave that there)...

Guest: Born in North Wales but currently residing in Ontario, Canada, Ben Stimpson works as a skilled therapist in the field of narrative and spiritual psychotherapy. Through his practice, he assists individuals, particularly those in the queer community, in exploring their relationship with themselves, spirituality, and ancestral connections. Ben is also the accomplished author of Ancestral Whispers: A Guide to Building Ancestral Veneration Practices (Release Sept 8 2023) www.benstimpson.com

Book Recommendation: Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Wall Kimmerer

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00:04:00 - Ancestral Whispers Book,
00:08:11 - Animals as Ancestors,
00:14:39 - Clarifying Cultural Appropriation,
00:21:00 - Connecting with Animals as Ancestors
00:24:03 - Expanding the Concept of Ancestor
00:27:36 - Seeing Animals in a Spiritual Sense
00:31:51 - The Power of Storytelling,
00:33:12 - Our Complex Relationship with Animals,
00:35:04 - Genealogy and the Story of Life,
00:36:20 - Changing Perspectives

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"This is a multispecies ethnography, so I'm not treating them like just objects or tools. I recognize that they're living beings with unique personalities."- Heather Frigiola

Episode 5 of Season 7: Animals and the Divine Transcript

In this episode, we dive into the fascinating world of Canine Ministries, where dogs serve alongside their owners in Christian social outreach. Discover the powerful impact of therapy dogs and their unique role in ministry work, as we explore personal stories of comfort, healing, and the remarkable connection between God, humans, and our four-legged friends.

Guest: Heather Frigiola is an aspiring anthropologist and PhD candidate (ABD) at the University of Nevada - Las Vegas, specializing in the study of animals in human culture. Her doctoral dissertation focuses on canine ministries, unraveling the intricate relationship between humans and dogs within these unique religious contexts. With a background in lecturing and volunteering at renowned institutions, Heather brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to her research. Her interdisciplinary approach and passion for understanding human-animal interactions make her a valuable contributor to the field of animal anthropology. Stay tuned for her insights into the cultural significance of canine ministries and their impact on communities.

Book Recommendation: The Sounds of Life: How Digital Technology Is Bringing Us Closer to the Worlds of Animals and Plants By Karen Bekker

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"Animal killing looks like a very morally serious act. In those rules about sacrifice and consumption of animals in the Old Testament. And then animal sacrifice, is not saying that animal lives don't matter. It's saying quite reverse. Animals are somehow able to mediate nothing less than a sort of relationship between humans and the divine."- Dr. David Clough

Episode 4 of Series 7: Animal and the Divine Transcript

I'm talking to Dr. David Clough about Souls, Old Testament Animal Welfare, God's Original Vision, and the diversity of life. And why religion is not the problem when it comes to ethical questions and actions of a culture.

Guest: David L. Clough is Professor in Theology and Applied Sciences at the University of Aberdeen. He is author of the landmark two-volume monograph On Animals (2012, 2019), on the place of animals in Christian theology and ethics. He is Principal Investigator for a three-year AHRC-funded project on the Christian Ethics of Farmed Animal Welfarein partnership with major UK churches, which in 2022 is working with educators to develop learning resources from the project for schools and theological colleges. He founded the DefaultVeg campaign, which promotes a simple policy shift to a vegetarian/vegan default for events catering, and co-founded of CreatureKind, an organization engaging Christians with farmed animal welfare. You can find him @DLClough on Twitter.

Book Recommendation: Aphro-ism: Essays on Pop Culture, Feminism, and Black Veganism from Two Sisters by Aph Ko and Syl Ko

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Are we truly giving our furry companions the life they deserve? As pet owners, we often assume that we're providing a safe and comfortable environment for our dogs. However, in this thought-provoking podcast episode, certified dog behavior consultant and author Kim Brophey sheds light on the natural context of animals, particularly dogs, and the costs of captivity on their welfare.

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Guest: Kim Brophey is an applied ethologist and the owner of The Dog Door Behavior Center in Asheville, NC. She is an award-winning dog trainer, a member of several professional associations, and a certified member of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants. Kim is known for her work on the L.E.G.S. model of integrated canine science, and her book, MEET YOUR DOG, has made her a respected voice in the dog behavior community.

Book Recommendation: Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children From Nature-Deficit Disorder by Richard Louv

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The sacred status of the cow is so widespread, so institutionalized, so deeply entrenched in Hindu culture, that it is actually quite a central question about the whole notion of Hinduism identity and cows. - Yamini Narayanan

Episode 3 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine ⁠Transcript⁠

In this amazing episode we talk about the place of cows -or more pertinently, dairy - in the Hindu religion. It raises thequestion: what does it mean to treat an animal as sacred versus treating an animal humanely? Yamini discusses the consequences of the cow being amplifiedas the mother of human life, and how this actually more deeply entrenches the cow into the practice of dairy farming. We hear the story of Krishna and hislove for milk as a child raised in a dairy farm, and think about how ideas of kinship with animals can be exploited. Importantly though, we also goback to the origin stories of Hinduism to ask whether there is a place in the Hindu religion to help animals.

Guest: Yamini Narayanan is an Associate Professor of International and Community Development at Deakin University, Melbourne. Her work explores the ways in which (other) animals are instrumentalised in sectarian, casteist and fascist ideologies in India, and how animals are also actors and architects of informal urbanisms. Yamini’s research is supported by two Australian Research Council grants. Her newest book Mother Cow, Mother India (2023) is published by Stanford University Press. In 2019, Yamini was awarded the Vice Chancellor’s Award for Mid-Career Research Excellence. In recognition of her work, she was made Fellow of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics (FOCAE), a distinguished honour that is conferred through nomination or invitation only.

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 2 of Series 7: Animals and The Divine Transcript

I'm talking to Anat Ben-Yonatan, a researcher at Tel Aviv University whose research is as fascinating as it is disturbing. But don't let that scare you away, We won't be going into any detailed descriptions of violence, but we are talking about animal slaughter for the purposes of kosher eating. However this research is less about what happens to the animals and more about the psychology and the place in Jewish society for the slaughterers themselves.

Guest: Anat Ben-Yonatan is a social-sciences informed human-animal scholar and a Research Fellow at the "Coller-Menmon Program for Animal Rights and Welfare" in the Buchmann Faculty of Law, Tel Aviv University. She is the co-founder and a steering committee member of both the human-animal connections forum and of the community for human-animal studies (HASI) under the auspices of the Israeli Anthropological Association, which she also co-chairs since February 2022.

Anat's Doctoral dissertation delved into the life and work of Jewish Israeli Shochtim (slaughterers), in which she looked, among other things, into their attitudes and feelings, as well as their moral schema in concern with shechitah (slaughter).

Anat's main research interest include various forms of interspecies violence, with emphasis on legitimized versus non-legitimized violence of humans against nonhuman animals; and "the save movement" with its educational programs as possible paths to cope with these violent phenomena.

Latest publications:

Ben-Yonatan A. “The knife needs the intention of the heart” The construction of ethnic and moral boundaries in Israeli slaughterhouses. Ethnicities. April 2022. doi:10.1177/14687968221093715

Anat Ben-Yonatan (2022) “Yesterday You Slaughtered Animals, Today You Pity Them”: Ambivalence and Resolution Among Jewish Israeli Slaughterers, Anthrozoös, 35:3, 355-370, DOI: 10.1080/08927936.2021.1996023

Hirsch-Matsioulas, O., Ben-Yonatan, A., Chen, L., Sadetzki, Y., & Shir-Vertesh, D. (2022). Human-Animal Studies in Israel: A Field in the Making, Society & Animals (published online ahead of print 2022). doi: https://doi.org/10.1163/15685306-bja10095

Book Recommendation: Dominion: The Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy by Mathew Scully

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 1 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine Transcript

Dr Lisa Kemmerer shares with us the role of animals in a wide range of religions. From deities, tricksters, shapeshifters, emblems and mora agents. Animals are truly one thing that all belief systems have in common. We discuss the value of indigenous teachings and reciprocity and Lisa gives insight into how to write about religion as an outsider as well as how to engage with your own religion. She also gives us some exclusive insights into her upcoming website.

Guest: Internationally known for her work in animal ethics, Dr. Lisa Kemmerer is the founder of the educational, vegan umbrella organization, Tapestry. With a Master of Theological Studies in Comparative Religions (Harvard) and a Ph.D. in philosophy (specializing in animal ethics at Glasgow University, in Scotland), Kemmerer taught for 20 years at the university level. She has written more than 100 articles/anthology chapters and 10 books, including In Search of Consistency, Animals and World Religions, Sister Species, and Eating Earth. Dr. K retired in July of 2020 to become a full-time social justice activist with Tapestry.

Book Recommendation: Vegan Ethics: AMORE—Five Reasons to Choose Vegan by Dr. Lisa Kemmerer

Episode 23: Hunting Women with Sue Alexander

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Part 6: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript

I chat with both Kris Hill and Jacqui Sadashige about their research in Free Living cats and Farm Animal Sanctuaries respectively. And we talk about our takeways from The Emerging Voices For Animals in Tourism Conference. A fun and wide ranging discussion!

Guest: Jacqui has a Ph.D. in Classical Studies from the University of Pennsylvania and an MA in Global Conservation from Miami University's Global Field Program. Her research interests include elephant tourism in Thailand and visitor engagement at farmed animal sanctuaries in the U.S. She is a lecturer in Gender Studies and Film at the University of Pennsylvania and Drexel University in Philadelphia.

Book Recommendation: Saving Animals: Multispecies Ecologies of Rescue and Care by Elan Abrell and

Esther the Wonder Pig: Changing the World One Heart at a Time by Steve Jenkins, Derek Walter, and Caprice Crane

Guest: Kris is completing a PhD in Anthrozoology with the University of Exeter, UK. Her doctoral research focuses on cat-human relations within urban communities, and discourses surrounding free-roaming and free-living cats (Felis catus). Other academic areas of interests include morethanhuman families, griefwork, animal representations, and Mediterranean street cats and cat-human cultures. A lifelong cat-lover, the majority or her travel photos have always included cats! Read more here: https://katzenlife.wordpress.com/

Book Recommendation: Watership Down:A Novel by Richard Adams

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Part 5: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript

We discuss Sharmini' s work with communities near tourist attractions to solves issues of wildlife conflict... those adorable monkeys that the tourists are feeding at the shrine can cause real havoc in surrounding neighborhoods!

Guest: Sharmini Julita Paramasivam is a senior lecturer at the School of Veterinary Medicine, University of Surrey. She graduated as a veterinary surgeon in 2008 from Universiti Putra Malaysia and worked in small animal and wildlife practice. Sharmini has an MSc in Applied Animal Behaviour and Animal Welfare from University of Edinburgh and focuses her teaching and practice on animal behaviour, welfare and human animal interaction. In 2022, she received senior fellowship in higher Community attitudes towards macaques in urban Malaysian tourism education from UK’s Advance HE. Sharmini leads the Animal Neighbours Project in Malaysia which aims to reduce negative interactions between wildlife and humans in urban spaces.

Book Recommendation: Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life by Bill Perkins

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

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Part 4: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript

I'm talking to researcher and Cherokee Nation citizen Bobby Chew Bigby about her work, studying the tribal led eagle aviary tours in Oklahoma Indian countries.

Guest: Bobbie is a storyteller, writer, scholar, educator, polyglot and enthusiast of the diversity of human cultures, languages and traditional relationships with the living environment. Born and raised in Oklahoma and a citizen of the Cherokee Nation, Bobbie is a daughter of Cantonese, Cherokee and Euro-American heritages. Her studies, work, friendships and research have taken her to different parts of Asia, Latin America, Indigenous Australia and US Indian Country. Bobbie is particularly passionate about exploring the ways that tourism can be more than just an economic livelihood for Indigenous and post-conflict communities. She focuses on tourism’s potential for connecting people with traditional culture, Country (lands+waters+all living beings) and community. Bobbie has recently submitted her PhD for examination at the University of Notre Dame Australia, with research focused on comparative models of Indigenous-led tourism and cultural resurgence across Australia and the United States.

Book Recommendation: Cherokee Stories of the Turtle Island Liars' Club: Dakasi Elohi Anigagoga Junilawisdii (Turtle, Earth, the Liars, Meeting Place) by Christopher Teuton

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

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Part 3: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript

A chat with Journalist and Researcher, Eveline Baptistella about her work trying to find common ground between humans and the animals we use in tourism.

Guest: Eveline Baptistella holds a Ph.D. in Contemporary Culture Studies - Communication and Culture from Mato Grosso's Federal University – Brazil. She is a researcher and journalism titular professor at Mato Grosso's State University. She dedicates her research to the field of critical animal studies, media studies, and environmental and scientific journalism. Baptistella also coordinates the research project "Animal Studies and Media," which includes the study of the relationships between human and nonhuman animals in contemporary society and the representation of nonhuman animals in the media.

Book Recommendation: The Emotional Lives of Animals: A Leading Scientist Explores Animal Joy, Sorrow, and Empathy by Marc Bekoff

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Part 2: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series, 2023 Transcript

We're releasing these episodes Monday Wednesday and Friday for The two weeks surrounding the conference itself. I'll be will talking with Altamush about Zoological gardens gardens in Pakistan, how he got started in Animal welfare, And how his foundation is helping to provide fresh water for both the humans and the canines in his home country!

Guest: Altamush Saeed is a Pakistan-based animal rights lawyer currently pursuing an LLM in Animal Law at the Center for Animal Law Studies, Lewis and Clark Law School as the first Pakistani recipient of the Brooks Institute Animal Rights Law and Policy International Scholarship. He holds an LLM from the University of Michigan Law School. He is a Co-Founder/Director of Charity Doings Foundation(https://charitydoings.org/), and an Animal Welfare Ambassador to Comprehensive Disaster Response Service(https://cdrsworld.org) He served as a Legislative Advocacy Intern at Best Friends Animal Society in 2022 and is currently a government relations intern at ASPCA. In Summer 2023, he will work as a Thomas Raskin Summer Legal Extern at Mercy for Animals. He also serves as a Humane Policy Volunteer Leader at the Humane Society of the United States for 2023. His life goal is to help all life, be it humans, animals, or the environment. Altamush is extremely grateful to all his past and future mentors for keeping this journey ongoing.

Book Recommendation: Inside of a Dog: What Dogs See, Smell, and Know by Alexandra Horowitz and

Manifesto for a Moral Revolution by Jacqueline Novogratz

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

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Part 1: Emerging Voices For Animals in Tourism Conference 2023 Mini-series Transcript

I'm talking with Nora Livingstone, the CEO and co-founder of Animal Experience International, an award winning B Corp that helps people volunteer on animal welfare and conservation projects. She is also Hosting the first panel at the 2023 Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference. We are going to discuss her amazing work sending much needed volunteers to eco/tour/vacation in a way that is ethical and beneficial for the animals, science, local communities. We will also discuss the 2023 EVAT conference and what she is excited to learn!

Guest: Nora Co-founded AEI, an award winning B Corp that helps people volunteer on animal welfare and conservation projects. Nora is also is the host of Fanimal's Animal Chat Time where she talks to animal lovers of all ages about narwhals, flying snakes, binturongs and more! She has danced in the CN tower as a panda, Ivor Wynne stadium as a red tailed hawk, Birmingham Grand Central Station as a river otter and on the banks of the Cowichan River as a chinook salmon.

Book Recommendation: Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times by Katherine May

https://www.animalexperienceinternational.com/

https://fanimal.online/programs/animal-chat-time/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZs5hEjSLzA&ab_channel=Fanimal

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting authors, nonprofits, professionals, academics and enthusiasts about the various disciplines of Anthrozoology.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network

This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands

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Valentine's Special! - Furry Fandom with Victoria Gersdorf

I chat with Victoria Gersdorf about her research around and discussions with those in the Furry Fandom Community. Its a fascinating and fun exploration into a subculture of love, life, and FUR.

Guest: Victoria grew up in Salt Lake City, Utah before moving to Helena, Montana to attend Carroll College. She has since graduated from Carroll with an undergraduate degree in anthrozoology, She is currently applying to sociology and anthrozoology master's programs.

She hopes to perform sociology and anthrozoology research on aspects of the furry community and how animals are used and perceived within the art of the furry community in order to express oneself and socialize and other topics involving fandom and animals and other subjects as a career in the future. Her paper "Gender Expression Using Fursonas in the Furry Community" which is an exploration of how fursonas allow members of the furry fandom to express and explore their gender identity in a community. Her research is currently under review and was presented at the 2022 ISAZ virtual conference.

Book Recommendation: The Snow Leopard and the Goat: Politics of Conservation in the Western Himalayas by Shafqat Hussain

Fur Science

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network

This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands

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Episode 7 of Season 6 - The Animal Protagonist

Surprise guest host, Nanette McCann interviews me about the difficulties and successes of discovering animal friendships.

Guest Host: Nanette McCann joined Homeward Pet as the Executive Director in 2018. It was Homeward Pet’s reputation for community engagement and volunteer dedication that spoke to Nanette’s personal values over her 30+ year career as a non-profit professional.

It was Nanette’s first career in radio broadcasting that actually got her interested in working in non-profit as a career. After 10 years as an on-air personality, championing for many organizations and experiencing the passion and commitment of volunteers and non-profit staff, Nanette made the transition to mission based work.

Nanette is the mom of five human children and two fur-babies, Frankie and Ursula.

Marika's Book Recommendation: Thinking with Animals: New Perspectives on Anthropomorphism Edited by Lorraine Daston and Gregg Mitman

Anthropomorphism or Egomorphism? The Perception of Non-human Persons By Human Ones by Kay Milton

Host: Marika holds an MA in Anthrozoology, a BS in Zoology, and a CPDT-KA. She has lived in four different countries exploring the many connections between humans and other animals.
Now, she enjoys chatting with academics, authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts about their research, stories, and experiences with other animals.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 6 in Series 6: The Animal Protagonist

Have you ever wondered if other-than-human animals experience grief? We explore this question and other about emotion in non-human animals with Dr. Barbara King.

Guest: Barbara J. King is Emerita Professor of Anthropology at William & Mary and a freelance science writer and public speaker. The author of seven books, including Animals' Best Friends: Putting Compassion to Work for Animals in Captivity and the Wild, Barbara focuses on animal emotion and cognition, the ethics of our relationships with animals, and the evolutionary history of language, culture, and religion. Her book How Animals Grieve has been translated into 7 languages and her TED talk on animal love and grief has now received over 3 1/2 million views. Barbara’s work has appeared in Scientific American, Aeon, and Undark, and she regularly reviews books for NPR and the TLS. She tweets about animals, science, and books https://twitter.com/bjkingape. To learn more, visit her website at www.barbarajking.com

Book Recommendations: The God Good Pig: The Extraordinary Life of Christopher Hogwood and The Soul of an Octopus: A Surprising Exploration into the Wonder of Consciousness by Sy Montgomery

Also of mention: Wonderdog: The Science of Dogs and Their Unique Friendship with Humans by Jules Howard

Alpha Wolf Idea- David Mech Website

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Miniseries: Pacific Northwest Wildlife Corridors (Part 2)

We will explore the waters of the Puget sound in a current and ongoing project meant to improve critical habitat of the Southern Resident Killer Whales.

Guest: Rachel Aronson is the Quiet Sound Program Director at Washington Maritime Blue, a NGO that seeks to accelerate the sustainability and equity of the blue economy. Quiet Sound, founded in 2021, seeks to better understand and mitigate the impacts of large commercial vessels, such as cargo, ferry and cruise ships, on the endangered Southern Resident Killer Whales in Washington State. Quiet Sound is a state-wide coalition of local, state, federal and tribal governments, the maritime sector and conservation NGOs. Rachel holds an M.M.A. from the University of Washington’s School of Marine and Environmental Affairs, as well as a B.A. in Biology and Hispanic Studies from the University of Pennsylvania.

Book Recommendations: Orca: How We Came to Know and Love the Ocean's Greatest Predator by Jason M. Colby

Orca Rescue!: The True Story of an Orphaned Orca Named Springer by Donna Sandstrom

The Sea Is My Country: The Maritime World of the Makahs (The Henry Roe Cloud Series on American Indians and Modernity) by Joshua L. Reid

https://maritimeblue.org/quiet-sound/

Episode 48: Bioacoustics

Orca Network

The Whale Trail

Exploding Whale

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Miniseries: Pacific Northwest Wildlife Corridors (Part 1)

In this episode we get hyperlocal with Sally Lawrence and discuss the Save Coal Creek project in Bellevue, Washington. This is an important natural area to the Greater Seattle Area and King County. This is a time sensitive issue with a rally and important decision coming up in the next few weeks (Ep. Pub Jan 16th 2023).

Guest: Sally Lawrence is a volunteer naturalist and salmon watcher for the City of Bellevue. She has a B.A. in Biology from Brown University and M.S. in Biological Oceanography from University of Rhode Island. Before retiring, she was a water quality specialist for Washington Department of Ecology. She loves traveling that involves hiking and learning new cultures, and Chinese food. And American dippers!

Book Recommendations: Nature's Best Hope" A New Approach to Conservation That starts in Your Yard by Douglas Tallamy

The Urbanist article- Maps of the area

Save Coal Creek Info

Sign the Petition!

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 5 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist

Often predatory behavior in your family pet is considered a undesirable behavior. Most people try to suppress predatory behavior but Simone is going to talk to us about the importance of predatory behavior and how to use what she calls predation substitute training for dogs who absolutely love to chase things In a world where that's not always seen as ideal!

Guest: Simone Müller, MA is a certified dog trainer and dog behaviour consultant (ATN.AG) from Germany. She specializes in force-free anti-predation training and is the author of the two books of the Predation Substitute Training series “Hunting Together” and “Rocket Recall”. Simone is proud to be an Associate Trainer at the Scotland-based Lothlorien Dog Training Club (AT-LDTC) and a member of both the Pet Professional Guild (PPG) and the Pet Dog Trainers of Europe (PDTE). Learn more: http://www.predation-substitute-training.com

Follow Simone’s work on Facebook and Instagram: #predationsubstitutetraining

Book Recommendation: The Emotional Lives of Animals: A Leading Scientist Explores Animal sorrow, Joy and Empathy-- and Why They Matter by Marc Bekoff

Jesus Christ Fenton

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 4 of Series 7: The Animal Protagonist

I talk with the fascinating Dr. Simon (pronounced Simo) Gadbois, about the canid nose and the complicated relationship humans have with dogs.

Guest: Simon Gadbois integrates ethology, animal experimental psychology, and behavioural neuroscience to study wild and domestic canids. He completed his Ph.D. in behavioural endocrinology at the Canadian Centre for Wolf Research (CCWR) examining the hormonal correlates of social behaviour in wolves, as well as action sequences in wolves, coyotes and red foxes. When the CCWR closed in 2007, he started the Canid Behaviour Research Lab at Dalhousie University and focused his research on coyote-human conflicts and canine scent detection and search. He is interested in the fundamental science of olfaction and olfactory learning, as well as some applications: His lab has focused on environmental/conservation, biomedical, and forensic applications of scent processing in dogs.

Book Recommendation: Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers, Third Edition by Robert M. Sapolsky

How the Dog Became the Dog: From Wolves to Our Best Friends by Mark Derr, Man Meets Dog by Konrad Lorenz

Related Episodes: Conservation Detection Dogs with Kayla Fratt of Conservation K9

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Ep 50- Special Encore Episode. Bringing back a listener (and personal) favorite episode for "the good old days" (2021).

Pertinent to this time of year (not just for animal welfare workers), a lot of us are promising too much and feeling like we're delivering too little. We really need to think a little bit about self-care and instead we're thinking about everybody else in our lives that we could help, and good for us That's awesome. However sometimes it can feel like a lot. Things get overwhelming, and fatigue can set in. When we're in this state, we are not fun, we are not relaxed, And if you're like me you ultimately regret not doing better. So this episode is for everyone who just feels a little overwhelmed at the moment or maybe with life in general and could use a bit of a perspective change.

Guest: Hilary Hager has spent the last twenty years managing volunteers in animal welfare environments and currently serves as the Vice President of Outreach, Engagement and Training at the Humane Society of the United States. Engaging volunteers in meaningful work to make the world a more humane place is Hilary’s passion and life’s work. She teaches compassion fatigue workshops around the country to help provide members of the animal protection community the support and resources to maintain their own well-being while working in a challenging and emotionally-charged environment.

Book Recommendation:

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

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Episode 3 in Series 6: The Animal Protagonist

We explore the lives and lifestyles of free living dogs with Anthrozoologist, Author, and Dog Behaviour Expert, Sindhoor Pangal.

Guest: Sindhoor is a canine behaviour consultant, Galen myotherapist, an independent ethology researcher, an engineer by qualification and an educator in Bangalore, India. She is a TEDx speaker, the author of the book, Dog Knows and an independent ethology researcher studying the free-living dogs in India. Sindhoor is the founder of BHARCS. BHARCS offers a UK-accredited level 4 diploma on canine behaviour and ethology and boasts of students from all parts of India and across the globe. Sindhoor is also the country representative for Pet Dog Trainers of Europe (PDTE) and is currently pursuing her masters in Anthrozoology from Exeter University (UK).

Book Recommendation: Dog Knows by Sindhoor Pangal

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 2 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist Shout Out to Countries near Iceland aside for Southern Resident Orcas

This episode is about the world from a the perspective of marine animals. Particularly how their acoustic environment effects their perceptions, health, and ability to find food and mates. we will be talking about who is talking in the world below the waves and what they are saying. Also; air Guns, mass strandings, climate change effects, Humpback Whales, Bearded Seals, Southern Resident Orcas, electric boat motors and ways to keep things quiet.

Guest: Dr. Fournet's research interests are in animal communication, the impact of anthropogenic noise on animal behavior, and how interspecies interactions manifest acoustically. She works primarily in the marine realm, but is generally interested in using acoustics to investigate questions of applied ecological significance and to disseminate science to the greater public.

For her graduate work she investigated humpback whale (Megaptera novaeangliae) acoustic ecology and the impact of vessel noise on humpback whale calling behavior in Southeast Alaska.

As a postdoctoral researcher at the Cornell Lab’s K. Lisa Yang Center for Conservation Bioacoustics (CCB), she is using acoustics to understand community dynamics in Florida Bay, Everglades National Park, with an emphasis on sonic fishes.

Former projects include humpback whale and killer whale photo-identification and citizen-science program development in Juneau, Alaska, the coordination and development of a marine mammal observation effort in Oregon’s near-shore ocean, and the analysis long-term acoustic data sets from Alaska’s Beaufort Sea, where she investigated seasonal presence of bowhead whales (Balaena mysticetus) and arctic seals.

Book Recommendation: Whale by Joe Roman

https://www.birds.cornell.edu/ccb/michelle-fournet/

https://soundsciencecollective.org/

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network

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Episode 1 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist

I'm talking to Dr Mariska Kret about how its possible to study the emotions of humans and other apes. The implications of this research is wide and the method more objective than you might think.

Guest: Dr. Mariska Kret (PI) works as a full professor at the Cognitive Psychology Unit of Leiden University, where she directs the CoPAN lab. After MSc degrees in Cognitive Psychology (2006) and in Clinical Psychology (2007) from Leiden University, Kret started her PhD trajectory at Tilburg University where she investigated the perception of emotions (2011). Since then, her research expanded to comparative studies in great apes and patients with mental disorders. She has demonstrated that many of the facets constituting emotion processing are evolutionary ancient, and shared with great apes, our closest living relatives. In her ERC Starting project she investigates the role of emotional expressions in the establishment of trust. Her VIDI extends that research to clinical populations (autism and social anxiety disorder). In her research she typically combines different methods including fMRI, psychophysiology and behavioural observations. Reaching out to the general public and open science practices are of utmost importance to her. https://www.mariskakret.com/

Book Recommendation: The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals by Charles Darwin and How to Study Animal Minds by Kristin Andrews

The Ape Who Went to College

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Let's talk about Umwelt. I'm calling this series the animal protagonist, because it is hard to remember that everyone sees the world in their own way. We all have a version of the world where we are the protagonist. We are living as the main character in our own story. Are non human animals any different? For a long time The possibility of Animal emotions was off limits in the scientific community. And although anyone living with an animal, even scientists, could see that animals had emotions, still the scientific community steered away from the subject. It was argued that because Animals couldn't talk there's no way we could ever know for sure if they experienced emotions. And if we could not know for sure then we should act as if they do not.

This policy, has allowed at least Western society to treat animals as if they were not sentient, as if, despite our own perceptions, they did not feel pain or joy. Animals were relegated to no more than living machines which had no moral standing. All that is now beginning to change as many in the scientific community have realized that although we cannot yet prove animals have emotions It doesn't mean we shouldn't ask the question. After all isn't science about asking questions? However the progress has been slow and as you will hear from some of our guests some of the scientific communities still prefer to act as of animals do not experience emotions. So, we are only starting to scratch the surface of understanding other animals perceptions of the world.

In this series I'd like to take a few episodes to introduce you to some of The researchers, philosophers, and professionals who are asking questions about animal perceptions, emotions, preferences, and history.

we're going to talk to Dr Mariska kret, about the current research that goes into understanding expressions of emotions in other animals, we're going to be talking to world famous author Barbara King about how animals experience grief, we'll be talking to Sindhoor panghal a researcher and dog trainer in India about her work with free roaming street dogs, Dr Simon gabois will talk to us about olfaction perception in canids, and Dr Michelle fournette will be giving us insight into the lives of marine mammals through bio acoustics! We'll also be talking to dog trainer Simone Mueller about predation instincts in dogs and how they can be turned into powerful training tools! And as you can imagine there is so much more!

So thank you for joining me as we ask the question what's the deal with animals!


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Episode 9 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals

Cindy Su and Michel Liao are two of the members of an ecology club at an Idaho an high school who are trying to sound the alarm around the importance of wolves as a part of a healthy ecosystem in Idaho.

Guests: Michel Liao is a senior at Timberline High School in Boise, Idaho. Michel likes math, reading, and activism. He's co-president of his high school's environmental club, TREE Club, and co-founded System Green, a 501(c)(3) dedicated to transforming Boise into a more sustainable city.

Recommended Reading: Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

Cindy Su is a senior at Timberline High School in Boise, Idaho in the United States. She has been following and advocating for the wolves ever since she heard about SB 1211 in the spring of 2021.

Recommended Reading: Nothing by Janne Teller

Planet Earth BBC Documentary

Saving the Northern Rocky Mountains Gray Wolf

International Wolf Center

How Wolves Change Rivers

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 8 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals

I talk with Jen Shryock and Helen St. Pierre (who both spoke at the Aggression in Dogs Conference 2022) about issues around introducing new babies into a home with dogs, we discuss the issue of social media showing dogs with young children or babies and how to help your kids have a good relationship with the dog family members in your household.

Guests: Jennifer is the owner and founder of Family Paws Parent Education. She has a certification from the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants and a special education degree with more than 30 years of experience. She’s served on multiple boards, including the International Childbirth Education Association, and was Vice President of Doggone Safe, a non-profit dedicated to dog bite prevention and victim support.

Book Recommendation: Living with Kids and Dogs...Without Losing Your Mind by Colleen Pelar Episode 37 with Colleen Pelar

Helen is the owner and operator of No Monkey Business Dog Training, LLC. Based in Concord New Hampshire. She is a Certified Professional Dog Trainer – Knowledge and Skills Assessed (CPDT-KSA) and a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant (CDBC) and an Operation Socialization Certified Trainer (OSCT). Helen has been training dogs for over 20 years. She is a professional member of the Association of Pet Dog Trainers, a certified member of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants and a member of the Pet Professional Guild. Helen is also a licensed Dogs and Storks educator, and a licensed Dogs and Toddlers educator.

Book Recommendation: The Third Chimpanzee: The Evolution and Future of the Human Animal by Jared Diamond

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 7 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals

I talk with Therese Lilliesköld about animals and domestic violence. we will be talking about Domestic violence against pets and how pets are used against children by abusers. we're going to be talking about How to protect children from online abusers and how important it is for women's shelters to be welcoming to the animal family members.

Guest: Therese Lilliesköld offers lectures and training on the connection between violence against children and family animals, cat behavior and cat protection, trauma in dogs and cats and family animals from an anthrozoological perspective. For pet owners, she offers cat behavior consultations and lectures.

She lives in Gnesta in scenic Sörmland with her family; sons Ruben and Vidar, the house cats Pocahontas and Panther, the guinea pigs Lily and Juni, the mixed breed dog Vera and the Salamander Salomon. The Link

Book Recommendation: Our Symphony with Animals: On Health, Empathy, and Our Shared Destinies By Aysha Akhtar

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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This is a Special Episode about the recent (Summer of 2022) removal and rescue of 4,000 Beagles from a breeding facility that breeds beagle so they can be sold to laboratories in the Unites States for use as test subjects.

Guest: Lindsay Hamrick, Director of Shelter Outreach and Engagement, the Humane Society of the United States works to strengthen partnerships with shelter and rescue organizations through mentorship, training, policy initiatives and grants. She is a Certified Animal Welfare Administrator and a Certified Professional Dog Trainer. Within the HSUS, she previously served as the director of policy—advancing fair housing policies, supporting humane community cat programs and ending breed-specific legislation—and as the New Hampshire state director. Before joining the HSUS, she spent almost a decade in animal sheltering, overseeing behavioral, medical, adoption and owner support programs at three of New Hampshire’s animal shelters, as well as at a large, urban shelter with an intake of over 30,000 animals per year. She serves on the board of Shelter Animals Count and the New England Federation of Humane Societies.

Book Recommendation: Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking, by Susan Cain

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 6 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals

Learning about Fanimal, a way to engage children and youth in Animal science and programs to support an interest in the connection between humans and other animals.

Guest: Carol Kline is the founder and Managing Director of Fanimal. Through working as a tourism professor in North Carolina, U.S., Carol had the privilege of collaborating with many farming families who wish to develop tourism on their farm as a means to provide extra income and to convey the importance of food production and rural lifestyles. Today she teaches a course on Animals, Tourism, & Sustainability and her research agenda is focused entirely on animals, which intersects with tourism and hospitality quite naturally. She launched Fanimal.online in 2018 to further satisfy her thirst for animal-related knowledge, her desire to network with animal- and environmentally-focused people, her wish help others find satisfaction by bringing animals into their life and careers, but most of all to be a part of something bigger for the betterment of animal lives. Book Recommendation: Yet to be published Spiders by Carol Kline and Nora Livingstone

Guest: Nora Livingstone is the CEO and co-founder of Animal Experience International, an award winning B Corp that helps people volunteer on animal welfare and conservation projects. She also is the host of Fanimal's Animal Chat Time where she talks to animal lovers of all ages about narwhals, flying snakes, binturongs and more! She has danced in the CN tower as a panda, Ivor Wynne stadium as a red tailed hawk, Birmingham Grand Central Station as a river otter and on the banks of the Cowichan River as a chinook salmon. Book Recommendations: The Soul of an Octopus: A Surprising Exploration into the Wonder of Consciousness by Sy Montgomery

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 5 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals

I chat with Anthrozoologist, Philosopher, and Social Scientist, Lynda Korimboccus, about her article "The Peppa Pig Paradox" an article published by The Journal for Critical Animal Studies in 2020.

Guest: Lynda is a passionate advocate for equity and justice, and is Trustee of a newly formed creative social project, The Scheme, in her hometown of Livingston, Scotland. Lynda’s current PhD research investigates the experiences of young vegan children in key Scottish social institutions such as education, with a view to expanding its inclusivity. She is a member of The Vegan Society’s Researcher and Education Networks, and she has been a Lecturer in Sociology and Programme Tutor for the Scottish Wider Access Programme (SWAP) in Social Sciences at West Lothian College for 15 years.

Book Recommendations: Our Children and Other Animals: The Cultural Construction of Human-Animal Relations in Childhood by Kate Mathew Cole and Kate Stewart

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Part 4 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series

We discuss Marco's work with wolves and free roaming dogs and takeaways form the conference so far!

Guest: Independent researcher, founder and director of AEDC Anthrozoology Education Dogs Canines and PFAH Portugal Focus Animal Help. He leads in-person and online educational programs on dog behavior, free-ranging dogs and wolves. He has studied free-ranging dogs in various countries, conducted field research on Bali dogs, and introduced dogs to schools in Indonesia, Thailand, and Malaysia. He also studied sledge dogs in Quebec, Dingoes in Australia, and wolves in the UK. He supported the rescue of animals in disasters in Indonesia and Portugal.

Member of the International Society for Anthrozoology, the Animal Behavior Society, and board member for the international Anthrozoology Symposium, Romania.

Book Recommendation: A Dog's World: Imagining the Lives of Dogs in a World without Humans By Jessica Pierce and Marc Bekoff

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Part 5 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series

I talk with Jessica Wheatcraft about her work with aggression in dogs and leash reactivity.

Guest: Jessica is the Owner and Director of Behavior and Training at Instinct Dog Training San Diego. She and her team help San Diego dogs and humans live better lives through practical, positive, and effective training & behavior programs.

Jessica has over 15 years of training and behavior consulting experience, working with thousands of pet dogs and their families. She has specialized in behavior issues for the past 10 years, specifically leash reactivity and aggression cases. She takes a comprehensive approach in understanding each individual dog, and tailoring her training plan accordingly.

Book Recommendation: Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones, by James Clear

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Part 4 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series

Today I had the great of pleasure talking with Suzanne Clothier. The creator of "Relationship Centered Training" and the Author of one of my favorite books, Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening Our Relationships with Dogs.

Guest: Suzanne Clothier has worked with animals professionally since 1977. Her Relationship Centered Training™ approach blends science and heart to create humane, effective and practical solutions for dogs and the people who work with them, whether professional working dogs or couch warming companions. She has presented workshops around the world on a broad range of topics.

An innovative trainer always seeking better ways to understand, assess and improve what we do with and for dogs, Suzanne has developed a variety of Relationship Centered Training techniques, including Treat/Retreat. The author of the ground-breaking Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening Our Relationships With Dogs (Warner, 2002) and many other books, DVDs and training tools, she is currently offering online courses for trainers and dog owners.

A long time breeder of German Shepherds, 11 generations of her dogs have been successful in multiple dog sports, SAR, therapy work, and as guide dog breeding stock. She lives on a working farm in upstate New York with husband John Rice, and their considerable animal family.

Book Recommendations: Kinship with All Life, by J. Allen Boone and The Sound of a Wild Snail Eating by Elisabeth Tova Bailey

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Part 3 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series

I talk with Laura Monaco Torelli, KPA CTP/Faculty Instructor, CPDT-KA, about her work with animals in zoos and aquariums as well as discuss her conference talk: The Great Expectations of Cooperative Care: Unravel the Who, Where, What, and Why of Husbandry Behaviors.

Guest: Laura Monaco Torelli is the founder of Animal Behavior Training Concepts in Chicago, Illinois. She began her career in 1991 at Chicago’s Shedd Aquarium, where she trained beluga whales, dolphins, sea otters, seals, river otters, and penguins. Laura serves as a Faculty Instructor with Karen Pryor Academy for Animal Training & Behavior (KPA), and as a Teaching Assistant for Dr. Susan G. Friedman’s Living & Learning with Animals online course. She offers private training at West Loop Veterinary Care, located in downtown Chicago.

Book Recommendation: Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes are High, by Kerry Patterson

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 4 of Season 5: Kids and Other Animals

I chat with Colleen Pelar, CPDT, Author of, Kids and Dogs: A Professional's Guide to Helping Families. Living with Kids and Dogs ... Without Losing Your Mind, and Puppy Training for Kids. We discuss Tolerance vs. Enjoyment, breaking down the myth of the 'good dog', respecting canine boundaries and individuality. Having children should not mean that you can't have a dog, but it does require careful consideration of the needs of all human and nonhuman family members.

Guest: Dogs and people have always fascinated Colleen Pelar. When she was a dog trainer, her favorite part of the job wasn't teaching the dog, but improving the relationship between dogs and their people.

Book Recommendations: The Great Gracey Chase: Stop that Dog! by Cynthia Rylant and Plenty in Life Is Free: Reflections on Dogs, Training and Finding Grace By Kathy Sdao

Both are social species, hard-wired to connect, and she loved offering simple, practical tips for building those connections. That's why, over more than 25 years of dog training, she spoke at scores of veterinary and training conferences and wrote three books to help parents and children have successful relationships with their dogs. https://colleenpelar.com/ Livingwithkidsanddogs.com

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Part 2 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini Series

We talk to Dr. Amber Batson about her work as a veterinarian and behaviorist. She is speaking on the first day of the aggression n Dogs Conference 2022 on the topic, "Sometimes, it might be Zebras when you hear Hoofs. Unique Medical Conditions in Aggression Cases". We discuss this as well as what she is excited to learn at the conference.

Guest: Amber graduated from the Royal Vet College, London in 1999 and went straight in to first opinion vet practice. She soon realized that many elements of her consultations included behaviour, whether as a symptom of potential disease (my dog’s sleeping more than they used to, my dogs more irritable than they used to be), or a direct request for help in a behaviour problem (my dog wont stop eating the cushions) or because understanding dog behaviour facilitated a better relationship with the dog and their human. In 2007 she set up Understand Animals, UK, a business providing behaviour and welfare education for both animal caregivers and professionals. Today she still works in vet practice seeing medical and behaviour cases, but also teaches behaviour worldwide and works as a legal expert witness in welfare cases.

Book Recommendation: Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers: An Updated Guide to Stress, Stress Related Diseases, and Coping (2nd Edition) by Robert Sapolsky and The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Part 1 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini Series

We talk to Mike about his work in aggression cases and how he is been able to bring education on how to work with aggression cases to more clients and dog trainers through his podcast, The Bitey End Of The Dog , The Aggression in Dogs Conference, as well as ongoing learning through his aggression Master Course.

Guest: Michael is fully Certified through the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants and is one of fewer than 300 CDBCs worldwide. He is the founder of the Aggression in Dogs Master Course and currently teaches trainers and behavior consultants in more than 25 countries how to work with aggression cases.

Book Recommendation: Culture Clash: A New Way Of Understanding The Relationship Between Humans And Domestic Dogs by Jean Donaldson

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 3 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals

Michelle and Marika Discuss how interactions with animals can help children (and adults) develop socially and emotionally. And now I need to bring my kids to visit the sanctuary!

Guest: Michelle Atterby of Eco-Wisdom Sanctuary and Eco Wisdom Adventures: Environmental Education After School Program

Michelle's Book Recommendation -The Animal's Agenda by Marc Bekoff and Jessica Pierce

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 2 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals

We are talking with Mike Farley, founder of the Educators for Animals Conference about how parents, teachers and other faculty can start to think about how animals are presented and represented in the classroom setting.

Book Recommendation: Beasts of Burden: Animal and Disability Liberation

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 1 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals

Why do some some people choose to stop eating meat? Would a child save a dog or a person from a sinking boat? Questions like this are posed by Matti and her colleagues to find out how our moral circles are formed and change into adulthood. The implications towards distant others (culturally and physically) are important.

Book Recommendation: The Most Good You Can Do: How Effective Altruism Is Changing Ideas About Living Ethically

Science Daily Article Fearful Great Danes provide new insights to genetic causes of fear

Guest: Matti Wilks is a Lecturer (Assistant Professor) in the Department of Psychology at the University of Edinburgh. Her background is in social and developmental psychology and she is interested in understanding (and overcoming!) psychological barriers to prosocial and ethical behaviour. At the moment, her research focuses on the factors that shape our moral circles, and why some people are so motivated to help distant others. In addition, she studies attitudes towards cultured meat and why we think natural things are good and unnatural things are bad.

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 8 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

What does Environmental Justice have to do with the connection between humans and other animals?

Today we're talking to Akisha Townsend Eaton, chief of policy and environmental justice division at companion animals for reform and equity.

We're talking about Disaster relief,

Critical services like Cooling centers in a heat wave, temporary housing, access to healthcare. We're going to discuss how Covid has affected pet owners and community solutions! ;

How we can change things for the better through supporting local initiatives and educating ourselves around how to prepare for major disasters as well as everyday issues like air pollution and asthma.

Guest: Akisha brings over a decade of animal law and policy experience to her current role as Chief of Policy, Environmental Justice Division at CARE. Prior to joining CARE, she worked as a managing attorney for the Animal Legal Defense Fund and as legislative attorney and policy advisor at various other national and international animal protection organizations. Akisha is an AmeriCorps alumni and is currently an active contributor to the Black Appalachian Coalition (BLAC) as well as the legal redress, environmental justice, and economic development committees of her local NAACP chapter, which recently awarded her the Prince and Cora Mack Humanitarian Award.

Akisha's Book Recommendation- The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee Care Redi Training https://www.bringfido.com/

https://careawo.org/leadership/ akisha@careawo.org

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 5 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters

We chat with Animal Control Sheriff, Alyssa Ellison in Virginia, about her work with wildlife around the state.

Guest: Alyssa Ellison became chief of the Louisa County Sheriff’s Office’s animal control unit in 2019. She works closely with veterinarians and fellow law enforcement on everything from high-profile animal seizures to lost pets. -The Central Virginian. She has also worked in Washington DC as a Shelter Manager and an Animal Control Officer for The Washington Humane Society.

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 7 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

I talk with CARE CEO, James Evans about the cause of animal care deserts and how a change in perceptions and accessibility can change human and animal lives for good. This episode brings home the issues facing our BIPOC communities and the animals that live with them.

Guest: James is a multi-awarding winning creative strategist and leader with 25+ years of experience developing relationships between organizations and their constituents. His expertise has been utilized across a diverse group of brands, both non for profit, and for profit. Specific brand experience includes: Timberland, Disney, The Mills Corporation, NAACP, Baltimore Health Department, Maryland Health Department, Kennedy Krieger Institute, CVS Caremark’s Project Health, Safe Streets Baltimore and many other brands.

James and his team have initiated several programs, including the ground breaking Gulf Spay/Neuter Campaign and HSUS’ Pets for Life, which helped reshape animal welfare, while simultaneously advocating for more diversity and inclusion throughout the field.

He has also played an integral part in AWO organization’s projects, including HSUS’ Adopters Welcome, Outdoor Cats Research, Stop Puppy Mills and Spayathon, as well as Best Friends Animal Society’s Outreach Action Team, Maddie’s Fund, and SPCA of Texas’ Let’s Fix This Campaign.

Email:james@careawo.org

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Summer Special Episode! Prof. Clive Wynne and I discuss dog emotions, why they form attachments to humans, what the biggest questions in dog studies are right now, and the past and future of sheltering.

Guest: Clive was born and raised on the Isle of Wight, off the south coast of England, studied at University College London, he got his Ph.D. at Edinburgh University before setting off on his travels. After time at the Ruhr-Universitat Bochum, Duke University, Universität Konstanz, the University of Western Australia and the University of Florida, he came to Arizona State University in 2013.

Over the years he has studied the behavior of many species - ranging from pigeons to dunnarts (a small mouse-like marsupial), but some years ago he found a way to meld his childhood love of dogs with his professional training and now studies and teaches the behavior of dogs and their wild relatives. https://www.clivewynne.com/

Recommended Book: Fishing Dogs: a Guide to the History, Talents & Training... By Raymond Coppinger

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 6 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

We discuss why understanding the history of The New Deal, Red Lining, and wealth inequity matters when we are trying to help companion animals. How can we, as pet advocates, be proactive about helping the pets in underserved areas of our community. And how serving these communities actually keep animals in their homes.

Guest: Amanda Arrington (she/her) is the Senior Director of the groundbreaking Pets for Life (PFL) program at the Humane Society of the United States and previously served as a lobbyist and North Carolina State Director for HSUS.? With PFL, Amanda guides a social justice-driven approach to create equity in and access to pet resources and information for people in underserved communities. Under her leadership the program has been implemented in over 50 markets across the country and is working to make companion animal welfare a more just and inclusive movement.

Amanda is also the founder and Executive Director of Beyond Fences, a non-profit based in Durham, NC. The organization builds trust and relationships in communities by providing no-fee pet services and support for people living in underserved areas.

Amanda currently serves as co-chair of The Association for Animal Welfare Advancement’s DEI committee and received the prestigious American Veterinary Medical Association Humane Award in 2018.

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 4 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters

Learn about the ancient connection between humans and raptors with Falconer, Silvia Mutterle.

Guest: "Born in Italy but a citizen of the world, I’ve nurtured in time a deep connection with nature and birds of prey in particular.

I consider other animals as my guides and mentors in a neo-shamanic perspective, and I believe in the human-hawk entanglement as a form of post-humanist co-education.

As a founder of Falconeria Zen www.falconeriazen.org

Silvia's work with the birds aims to establish a deep understanding and vibrant interconnection between humans, other animals and the environment in the heartfelt awareness that everything is interconnected.

Falconeria Zen wants to offer a very respectful and sometimes spiritual approach to birds of prey as some of the most iconic and worshiped animals in human perception, because they represent the incarnation of all those height qualities that humans most admire. "I humbly observe, feel and establish a connection with them so that I can pass their message on to other fellow humans."

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 5 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

I chat with CARE'S COO, Jen Evans, about why reform is needed in the animal care industry and what steps CARE is taking to help the process along.

We discuss CARE'S efforts in research, sharing narratives, and policy change. All areas that, according to Jen, could use the perspective of a BIPOC person to reform in order to promote an atmosphere of listening and inclusion for human and well as companion animal well-being.

Guest:Jennifer Evans studied studio art in school and has over 20 years experience in marketing and publishing as both a designer and Art Director. She is the COO and Art Director for Illume Communications and is a wardrobe stylist.

Jennifer is also the Chief Operating Officer for CARE. As a highly organized logistics expert, she manages CARE’s staff and workflow. Aside from her visual communications and organizational skills, Jen brings an in-depth knowledge of social media marketing strategies and narrative production. Much of her recent work within the animal welfare field has included innovative campaign strategies and production for large scale projects such as Breaking Bias for HSUS Expo 2019, Stop Puppy Mills Video campaign, Petstablished, Let’s Fix This, HSUS’ Spayathon, and HSUS’ Adopter’s Welcome toolkit.

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW)and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/

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Episode 3 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters

I'm talking with Sue Alexander, full time dog trainer and part time hunter. We discuss gender roles, the goal of a hunter (hint its not necessarily what you think), providing for the community, and the benefits of hunting to conservation.

Guest: Sue Alexander is the co-owner with her husband, John, of Dogs in the Park, a dog training and behaviour consulting company in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Sue has been actively involved in dog sports for the past twenty years, competing in obedience, rally and agility. She is an experienced service dog trainer, specializing in training dogs for those with psychiatric disabilities. Sue was a content editor of the critically acclaimed book “Canine Behavior A Photo Illustrated Handbook.” Outside of the dog fancy, Sue is active in Powwow dancing, hiking and reading.

Host: Marika started her career with non-human animals while obtaining her University degree in Zoology (UW). Initially she worked with large carnivores at zoos but after taking a course in dog training, and obtaining her CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers, she caught the animal welfare ‘bug’ and has been working with shelters and sanctuaries internationally for more than a decade. During this time she received the Susan Wilkens Achievement Award from APDTAU for her work in the sheltering community and The Queen's Diamond Jubilee award for Meritorious Volunteer Service.

She completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She served a term as the board president in 2020 and continues to serve on the leadership team as the past president. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 4 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

Ecofeminist Lori Gruen, shares insights with us about ecofeminist values and the connection between the oppression of women, people of global majority, animals, and the environment.

Guest: Lori Gruen is the William Griffin Professor of Philosophy at Wesleyan University. She is also a professor of Feminist, Gender, and Sexuality Studies, Science in Society, and founder and coordinator of Wesleyan Animal Studies. She is the author and editor of 15 books, including Entangled Empathy (Lantern, 2015); Critical Terms for Animal Studies (Chicago, 2018) and Ethics and Animals: An Introduction (Cambridge, 2011, second edition 2022). Gruen’s work lies at the intersection of ethical and political theory and practice, she critically interrogates oppressive systems that impact those often overlooked in traditional ethical investigations, e.g. women, people of color, incarcerated people, non-human animals.

Gruen has been involved in animal issues as a writer, teacher, and activist for over 25 years. Her relationships with scholars thinking about animals, activists working to protect animals, and, perhaps most importantly, with many different animals, uniquely inform her perspective on how we need to rethink our engagement with other animals. She has published extensively on topics in animal ethics and ecofeminism and has become known as a bit of an archivist for chimpanzees in the US given her work documenting the history of The First 100 chimpanzees in research in the US (http://first100chimps.wesleyan.edu) and the journey to sanctuary of the remaining chimpanzees in research labs, The Last 1000 (http://last1000chimps.com).

See: www.lorigruen.com

Host: Marika started her career with non-human animals while obtaining her University degree in Zoology (UW). Initially she worked with large carnivores at zoos but after taking a course in dog training, and obtaining her CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers, she caught the animal welfare ‘bug’ and has been working with shelters and sanctuaries internationally for more than a decade. During this time she received the Susan Wilkens Achievement Award from APDTAU for her work in the sheltering community and The Queen's Diamond Jubilee award for Meritorious Volunteer Service.

She completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She served a term as the board president in 2020 and continues to serve on the leadership team as the past president. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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We talk with Author of "Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat", Hal Herzog, about some of the bigger questions facing anthrozoology right now. Where Anthrozoology is going and what got us here in the first place.

Guest: Hal Herzog has been investigating the complex psychology of our interactions with other species for more than two decades. He is particularly interested in how people negotiate real-world ethical dilemmas, and he has studied animal activists, cockfighters, animal researchers, and circus animal trainers. An award-winning teacher and researcher, he has written more than 100 articles and book chapters. His research has been published in journals such as Science, The American Psychologist, The Journal of the Royal Society, The American Scholar, New Scientist, Anthrozoös, BioScience, The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, and Animal Behavior. His work has been covered by Newsweek, Slate, Salon, National Public Radio, Scientific American, USA Today, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Chicago Tribune and many other newspapers. In 2013, he was given the Distinguished Scholar Award by the International Society for Anthrozoology.

Hal Herzog is Professor of Psychology at Western Carolina University and lives in the Smoky Mountains with his wife Mary Jean and their cat Tilly.

Hal’s blog – Animals and Us

Hal’s research and some web-accessible articles

Host: Marika started her career with non-human animals while obtaining her University degree in Zoology (UW). Initially she worked with large carnivores at zoos but after taking a course in dog training, and obtaining her CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers, she caught the animal welfare ‘bug’ and has been working with shelters and sanctuaries internationally for more than a decade. During this time she received the Susan Wilkens Achievement Award from APDTAU for her work in the sheltering community and The Queen's Diamond Jubilee award for Meritorious Volunteer Service.

She completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She served a term as the board president in 2020 and continues to serve on the leadership team as the past president. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Episode 3 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

A discussion with Jasmin Singer, Editor of Encompass Essays Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation....We had a conversation about an issue that is important to all of us and yet both her and I being white, have mostly seen the privileged side of this. So there are moments that we have a difficult time putting into words our thoughts or even recognizing the white privilege that we hold.

After the interview Jasmin contacted me with some of the same concerns I had already felt. Neither of us being experts, Had we done Justice to the topic? Could we put this discussion out into the world? In the end we decided we should, because just as the book suggested, we were having the difficult conversation and trying to work out how we can make things better. And even if we don't get it right we are going to try and we're going to keep trying. So if nothing else, this is an excellent example of the kind of conversation that we all need to be having! Because we're not going to get it right the first time, and making the effort is important. Perhaps by sharing our effort we will encourage others to do the same.

Listen to the audio essays form the book on Our Hen House Podcast! Episode 612.5: "Antiracism in Animal Advocacy" Audio Series Episode Part I - Awakening - Our Hen House

Bio- Jasmin Singer is the author of The VegNews Guide to Being a Fabulous Vegan (Hachette Go, 2020) and the memoir Always Too Much and Never Enough (Penguin Random House Berkley; 2016). She's the co-founder and co-host of the award-winning Our Hen House podcast and nonprofit (now in its eleventh year), the Director of Content & Partnerships for Kinder Beauty, and the editor of the Encompass Essays: Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation. Jasmin was named a “40 Under 40” by The Advocate Magazine, a top “Eco-Preneur” by Go Magazine, and can be seen in documentaries including Vegucated and The Ghosts In Our Machine. She has been a featured expert on TV shows such as “The Dr. Oz Show,” has contributed to several anthologies and led hundreds of workshops around the globe, and debuted her Tedx talk—“Compassion Unlocks Identity”—last year. Jasmin’s career started twenty years ago as an AIDS-awareness activist with the educational theater company, and she later went on to become the Campaigns Manager for Farm Sanctuary. Jasmin is committed to using personal narrative as a means to create change; emboldening and collaborating with do-gooders to tell their stories; creatively using media as a means of activism; and continuing to learn about the endless overlaps within social justice, and let that information inform her change-making efforts.

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Episode 2 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters

Mary Roach's wry humor marries well with the funny but often unfortunate conclusions of human encounters with wildlife. We'll have a lot of fun discussing some stories from the book as well as other things that fascinate 6x New York Times Best Seller, Mary Roach.

We'll be talking about her most recent book, Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law. This book has all sorts of fascinating stories and I get to spend 45 minutes talking to her about her experiences writing the book and her personal experiences with wildlife. To be honest, we both geek out a little bit about birds.

Mary Roach is the author of the New York Times bestsellers STIFF, SPOOK, BONK, GULP, GRUNT, and PACKING FOR MARS. Her new book FUZZ: When Nature Breaks the Law, debuts in September 2021. Mary has written for National Geographic, Wired, and The New York Times Magazine, among others, and her TED talk made the TED 20 Most Watched list. She has been a guest editor for Best American Science and Nature Writing, a finalist for the Royal Society's Winton Prize, and a winner of the American Engineering Societies' journalism award, in a category for which, let's be honest, she was the sole entrant. More at www.maryroach.net

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Episode 2 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

The TrapKing, Sterling Davis tells us about Trap-Neuter-Release and how he (and his episode on the new Netflix Series, Cat People) shows his work across the US providing compassionate, accessible, medical care for stray cats.   Sterling Davis works to bridge the gap between the black community and animal welfare work. We're talking about the stereotypes around men and particularly black men and cats. And we are talking about cats. Lots of cats.  Theme music composed by Kai Strandskov www.kaistrandskov.com

Paws for a Cause - Netflix documentary on CATS!


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Episode 1 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters

What the heck is a civet and why do people love them?! Find out on this episode, the first in series 4, all about wildlife encounters! 

Jes Hooper is an Anthrozoology PhD candidate at the University of Exeter in the UK and a member of Exeter’s Anthrozoology as Symbiotic Ethics (EASE) working group. Jes’ current research focuses on human-animal encounters within the trade in exotic wildlife for the pet, coffee, tourism, and zoo industries. Jes’ PhD project, The Civet Project, is a multi-species and multi-sited ethnography following the stories of Viverridae species entangled within live animal trade, with encounters viewed through a trans-species lens. Jes’ work actively engages with interdisciplinary scholarship including collaborations with visual artists, critical tourism academics, conservationists, zookeepers and fellow anthrozoologists. Jes lectures part time on two undergraduate programs in Animal Behaviour, Welfare and Conservation at Plumpton College, Sussex, and blogs under the name Shilo & Patch.


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Episode 1 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

Battling all forms of oppression will advance the animal rights movement. We can't continue to be ignorant of how inhumane treatment of humans feeds into the abuses of animals. Join me for this important first discussion on Antiracism in Animal Welfare with Aryenish Birdie, Executive Director of Encompass and the newly launched book Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation


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Listen to the next big hit record! You will be wanting to play it to yourself in the car all day!  You will ask the radio to play it because its awesome! You will  listen to every furture episode, no matter the topic,  just to hear the intro! I love it! Here it is, The Deal with Animals Theme Music! Music composed by Kai Strandskov!

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Series Three is taking a look at the growing pains and bright spots of bringing equity and social justice to the animal welfare and many other areas of animal advocacy. You will meet amazing people and learn how you can take steps to move animal welfare into diversity and help all animals along the way. Series Four will be running concurrently (every other week) and will be discussions with humans who live with or have direct contact with wild (non-domesticated) animals. Get ready for some surprising stories!


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The historical tradition that is The Conservation Movement spans thousands of years. What can we learn from past mistakes and bright spots so that conservation, biodiversity, and the tradition of saving the environment, wildlife and ourselves succeeds?

Michelle Nijhuis is the author of the new book Beloved Beasts: Fighting for Life in an Age of Extinction, a history of the modern conservation movement. A project editor at The Atlantic, she is also a longtime contributing editor at High Country News and an award-winning reporter whose work has been published in National Geographic and the New York Times Magazine. She lives in White Salmon, Washington.


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Talking to Author and Chair of Friends of Inti Wara Yassi, Laura Coleman about the Bolivian NGO, Comunidad Inti Wara Yassi (CIWY). CIWY is a non-profit founded by Nena Baltazar, recognized by Women's World Summit Foundation for her environmental activism. CIWY is dedicated to educating young people in Bolivia about their environment and providing safe haven for illegally trafficked wildlife.  With three wildlife sanctuaries in Bolivia, CIWY invites volunteers worldwide to work directly with their, over 500 animals, including primates and Big Cats. No previous experience needed.  Find out from Author of "The Puma Years", Laura Coleman who has volunteered with Comunidad Inti Wara Yassi for almost two decades.   


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This may be an aspect of conservation you haven't heard of before. Conservation detection canines; They are trained to scent, track and find endangered species, invasive species, or just dead bats. This topic is fun and entertaining and it doesn't hurt that Kayla is a super optimist.


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Eradicating or Saving the Australian Brushtail Possum in New Zealand? That's the question posed by PhD Candidate, Emily Major.  Emily’s research, examines the mainstream ‘possum-as-pest’ discourse in conservation and considers how compassionate conservation principles could help alleviate suffering and cruelty towards the brushtail possum. In tandem with her research, Emily began her blog, Framing Speciesism, which seeks to bridge the knowledge gap between academic scholarship and the general public. This blog, which discusses the framing of possums in short, digestible posts, can be found at framingspeciesism.com

Framing Speciesism

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Nancy tells us about how to cultivate a beautiful garden that is also safe and inviting for the creatures to visit. Learn about the new HOA law in MD and join in Nancy's citizen science project documenting Monarch Butterfly leaf-scratching behavior.

Nancy Lawson is the author of The Humane Gardener: Nurturing a Backyard Habitat for Wildlife, a habitat consultant, and a national speaker on garden ecology. She founded Humane Gardener to pioneer creative planting strategies and other animal-friendly landscaping methods. Lawson’s presentations at diverse venues—from national wildlife refuges to local wildflower preserves—have inspired even seasoned horticulturists and wildlife experts to look at their landscapes in a new way. Certified as a Chesapeake Bay Landscape Professional and master naturalist, she partners with conservation and animal advocacy organizations in central Maryland. Her book and garden have been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and other media outlets.


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Did you see the Motion Picture Born Free when you were a kid? I did! It was the beginning of my journey into animal advocacy field. Angela Grimes CEO of Born Free USA talks to us about the Vision and Mission of Born Free USA, The Born Free Primate Sanctuary and other projects important to having a "positive impact on animals in the wild and protect their ecosystems in perpetuity, for their own intrinsic value and for the critical roles they play within the natural world".

In 2002, Born Free USA was launched in the United States to bring Born Free’s vision to the American public. In 2007, Born Free merged with Animal Protection Institute (API). Born Free operates one of the largest primate sanctuaries in the United States. The 175-acre sanctuary, located in south Texas, provides a safe, permanent home to approximately 400 monkeys, many rescued from abuse in roadside zoos or as “pets” in private homes or retired from animal experimentation. Born Free USA


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A special "spooky" episode to celebrate the season. A fascinating look into the 'Animal Lens' (how humans view themselves through other animals). Author of, Avian Illuminations and City of Ravens, among others, fascinates us with stories of the legend of ravens in the Tower of London, Birds as souls, and messengers to the Gods.


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If you love the Pacific Northwest, Salmon, and conserving our waterways, then this is definitely the episode for you. 


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Ultimately when humans talk about conserving diversity whether that be animal or plant we're also talking about conserving ourselves and preserving the lifestyles that we want for our children.

This series we take a wide-ranging look at a variety of aspects of conservation as it pertains to how humans interact with other animals.

We'll be talking to the CEO of Born Free USA, a leading wildlife charity that opposes the exploitation of wild animals in captivity, the owner of K9 conservationists an organization that trains dogs to detect endangered or invasive plants for animals, how to be a humane gardener in your own backyard, salmon habitat restoration and more! Our discussion on conservation will take us across the United States and all the way to New Zealand!


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This episode just might make you a happier person. You might think this episode would only be for those in animal welfare who feel sad, but just you wait! This is such a fascinating and important area to understand for anyone's mental and physical wellbeing. 


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When a dog bites it doesn't just cause physical injury but emotional injury to the victim as well as the dog's caregiver. Dr Sara obtained her PhD researching the emotional toll of dog bites and now works for Dog's Trust, UK on a longitudinal study on health, welfare, and behavior of dogs from puppy to golden years. 


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Discussing the uses and ethics of Animal Assisted Interactions, Therapies, and services with Clare Thomas-Pinot, adjunct professor and Post Doctoral Candidate at the University of Main. 


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Dr Jackie and I discuss Holistic pet medicine: What is it, why does she practice it, how does it work with an integrated health plan? Dr Jackie is a Veterinarian specializing in Holistic pet medicine at Mercy Vet on Mercer Island, WA. 


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The goals of this podcast and an introduction


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So many of us worked from home this year that many people decided to get an animal companion. Many of these dogs have had no experience or are out of practice with being left at home alone. I talk with Author and International dog trainer, Suzanne Clothier, about our dog's mental/emotional health and how to prepare our dogs for post-pandemic life. But just to set some expectations we go on for awhile just having a nice chat about life with animals. 


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What is pet acupuncture and how does it work? Dr. Taryn Rathbone discusses this and chats about dogs, horses and her experiences with animals. 


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Have you wondered if you pets could catch Covid 19 if you get sick? Can they pass it to each other or even bring it home to you? I am talking with Dr Julianne Miesner on her research with companion animals and Covid 19. I'll publish a link to her research and how you can get involved on my webpage  at TheDealWithAnimal.com and on facebook at The Deal With Animals. 


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The Trailer. Introduction to Anthrozoology and myself, Marika S. Bell


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