Reimagining Atlantis: Recent Episodes
Mary Torrey
A look at the lost city of Atlantis through the eyes of an impassioned hobbyist. I have over 20 years of research into ancient history and mythology. I have also been unhealthily obsessed since I was young and have greedily absorbed any and all information that could even whisper Atlantis. The purpose of this podcast is to spark the imagination of people new to Atlantis and introduce a new concept to the veterans. I want to combine the myths with the current science and archeological evidence.
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"Reimagining Atlantis" dives deep into the intriguing connections between historical accounts and geographical discoveries to reimagine the lost city of Atlantis. In this episode, we explore a thought-provoking paragraph linking the Nasamones, called "Atlantes" by Herodotus, to the fabled Atlantis. We delve into the geographical descriptions of Plato, the possible implications of his descriptions of the island's canals, and a potential link to a once-mighty river, the Tamanrasett, that may have traversed West Africa. This episode challenges conventional wisdom, positing that the Tamanrasett River and its surroundings, particularly the Bay of Arguin, could be a location for the long-lost Atlantis. If you've ever been intrigued by the legend of Atlantis and love to question and learn, this episode will captivate your imagination. Dive in as we traverse history, literature, and geography in our quest for Atlantis!
https://journals.openedition.org/encyclopedieberbere/362?lang=en
https://www.academia.edu/904881/Platos_Atlantis_was_in_a_River_Delta_I_am_cited_as_a_reference_source_and_I_am_mentioned_or_acknowledged_
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0126:book=4:chapter=184&highlight=atlantes
https://daac.ornl.gov/ISLSCP_II/guides/river_routing_stn_xdeg.html
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"Reimagining Atlantis" is a podcast that takes you on a journey to explore the mystery surrounding the lost city of Atlantis. In this podcast, we will discuss the latest research and findings on the possible locations of Atlantis, the civilizations that may have inhabited the city, and how it could have met its catastrophic end.
This episode delves into the intriguing discovery made by archaeologists and geologists in Spain's Andalusia region in 2009 and 2010. Using state-of-the-art technology, they surveyed the Donana National Park, revealing a long-hidden inland sea and scattered ruins of ancient villages, believed to have Roman or Greek roots.
The story of the submerged city of Atlantis has fascinated people for centuries, and we will explore various theories and locations where Atlantis could have existed. We will delve into the work of researchers, such as the American architect who used sonar to reveal man-made walls in the Mediterranean between Cyprus and Syria, and the Swedish researchers who claimed the city lay on the Dogger Bank in the North Sea, which was submerged in the Bronze Age.
One of the most exciting discoveries made by British specialists is the presence of a greenish-blue patina coating on the ancient ruins, which has been found to be made of an old alloy of metals. This patina on the buildings and architecture of the cities and temples that make up this complex is described in great detail by Plato. We will discuss the significance of this discovery and what it could reveal about the ancient civilization that once existed there.
The podcast also features an interview with Tim Akers, head of research at Merlin Burrows and a maritime historian, who claimed that a 'scientific study' of material collected from Spain revealed indications of both ancient technological metallurgy and a type of cement never seen before. He also shares how his team discovered the memorial cities created in the likeness of Atlantis by its inhabitants following the city's likely destruction by a tsunami, and how this discovery gave him confidence that Atlantis was buried in the mud flats.
Join us on "Reimagining Atlantis" as we dive deep into the mystery of the lost city and explore the possibilities of its existence.
Sources:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3766863.stm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6393371/Could-Atlantis-Satellites-spot-ancient-ruins-flooded-Spanish-coast.html
https://www.theatlantisproject.org/spain-as-atlantis/
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna42072469
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In this episode of the podcast, we dive into the theory of the Atlantic Sea or Sea of Atlas, a body of water separate from the Atlantic Ocean, as claimed by Plato. This episode presents several statements made by Plato and Herodotus and explains the significance of the Red Sea mentioned in their works. We also explore the location of the mythical island of Erytheia and its connection to the story of Herakles, shedding light on the timelines of these events. If you want to learn more about the fascinating world of ancient myths and legends, this episode is not to be missed!Sourceshttps://www.theoi.com/Kosmos/Erytheia.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphithemis--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mary-torrey4/support
The podcast episode explores the connection between Japheth, a biblical figure, and Iapetus, a Titan in Greek mythology. While Japheth's etymology and onomastic environment cannot be established, Professor Richard Hess suggests that Japheth derives from Greek traditions about Iapetus. Iapetus is associated with mortality and the limits of life, and he is the father of Atlas and Prometheus. Scholars have long been intrigued by the similarity of the names Japheth and Iapetos, and some have associated Japheth's descendants with Greek nations. The episode delves into the relationship between the sons of God and the daughters of men, and the theory that the sons of God are the sons of Chronos and the daughters of men are the daughters of Iapetus. The episode concludes by exploring the basic story of Noah's sons and the theory that Ham assaulted Noah's wife to produce Canaan.
Sources:
http://www.bibleorigins.net/Japhethmadai.html
https://sites.msudenver.edu/crossculturalgenderandsexualities/morocco/the-amazigh/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology)
https://www.theoi.com/Titan/TitanIapetos.html
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In this episode of our podcast, we delve into the historical and mythological events surrounding three devastating floods: the Thera eruption, the Ogyian flood, and the flood of Deucalion. The Thera eruption, also known as the Minoan eruption, occurred on the island of Santorini around 1613 BCE and is considered one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history. The eruption caused widespread destruction and may have contributed to the collapse of the Minoan civilization.
Next, we examine the Ogyian flood, a flood myth found in ancient Greek literature. The myth tells the story of a great flood that left Attica without a king for 189 years. We will compare the Greek Ogyges with OG from semitic texts.
Finally, we explore the flood of Deucalion, which is also found in Greek mythology. This flood was sent by the gods as punishment for mankind's evil ways and Deucalion, the son of Prometheus, was the only one who was warned and able to survive by building a chest in which he and his wife, Pyrrha, floated to safety. The couple repopulated the earth after the flood by throwing stones over their shoulder, which turned into people.
Each of these floods had a profound impact on the societies and cultures that experienced them, shaping the way they viewed the world and their place in it. Tune in to learn more about these fascinating and catastrophic events.
My sources for this episode are:
Pausanias was a Greek traveler and geographer of the second century AD. He is famous for his Description of Greece, a lengthy work that describes ancient Greece from his firsthand observations. Description of Greece provides crucial information for making links between classical literature and modern archaeology.
The rest of my sources are linked in my episode description.
https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/article-689976
https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/santorini/minoan-eruption/size.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inachus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triton_River
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Og
https://www.mayimachronim.com/the-giant-og-king-of-bashan/
https://www.gotquestions.org/Og-king-of-Bashan.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Og
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0239:book=9:chapter=2&highlight=triton
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In this episode of “Reimaging Atlantis”, we will be exploring the climate of Atlantis as described by the ancient Greek philosopher, Plato. Specifically, we will be examining Plato's clues about the presence of certain plant and animal species in Atlantis and comparing them to the climates in which they are known to thrive today.
We will begin by discussing the chestnut tree, which Plato describes as being abundant in Atlantis. We will explore the climate conditions required for chestnut trees to thrive and compare them to the conditions described by Plato.
Next, we will delve into the other trees and plants mentioned by Plato, such as flowers, herbs, and other trees. We will examine the climates in which these plants are known to grow today and compare them to the conditions described in Plato's text.
We will also take a look at the presence of horses, cattle, and elephants in Atlantis as described by Plato. We will explore the climates that are most suitable for these animals to thrive and compare them to the conditions described by Plato.
Throughout the episode, we will also consider other factors that may have influenced Plato's descriptions, such as the limitations of the technology of his time.
Join us as we explore the climate of Atlantis and uncover the truth behind Plato's clues.
This episode's sources were used with chatGPT.
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In this episode of "Reimaging Atlantis," we delve into the ancient Greek myth of Mnemosyne, the goddess of memory. Mnemosyne is often depicted as one of the nine Muses, divine beings responsible for inspiring artistic creation. According to myth, Mnemosyne was the daughter of the Titan Uranus and the goddess Gaia, and the mother of the nine Muses by the god Zeus.
We explore the various stories and symbols associated with Mnemosyne in Greek mythology, including her role as the guardian of the sacred spring of Mnemosyne and the mother of the Muses. We also discuss the broader theme of memory in Greek mythology and its importance to the ancient Greeks. We delve into the way that memory was viewed in ancient Greece and how it was used to transmit cultural values and traditions from one generation to the next.
Finally, we conclude by discussing the enduring legacy of Mnemosyne and the ways in which the myth of the goddess of memory continues to influence modern culture. Tune in to learn more about the fascinating world of Mnemosyne and the enduring power of memory in mythology and beyond.
Sources:
https://www.greekmythology.com/Titans/Mnemosyne_/mnemosyne_.html
https://mythologysource.com/mnemosyne-greek-goddess/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muses
https://9museshotel-kefalonia.com/9-muses-hotel-kefalonia
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In Plato's work, Phaethon is brought up shortly. "There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Paethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt."
This episode explores Phaethon in depth and explores the small amount of information about him. I thought I would go over Phaethon and what the audience of Plato would have known. Plato talks about it briefly but enough that I think you should know the story. If the words comet, meteor, or asteroid were not available, How would you describe a ball of fire coming down from the sky?
sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merops_(mythology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clymene_(mother_of_Phaethon)
https://www.theoi.com/Titan/Phaethon.html
https://www.theoi.com/Nymphe/NymphaiHeliades.html
https://www.theoi.com/Nymphe/NympheKlymene.html
https://www.theoi.com/Potamos/PotamosEridanos.html
https://www.evolving-science.com/information-communication/meteor-explosion-could-have-taken-out-entire-bronze-age-civilization-new-research-reveals-00855
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Studying Atlantis is difficult because there are important questions that pertain to where, when, and who. Perhaps, I found the when and possibly the who. I would love to know your thoughts on it.
After last week’s episode, and the single sentence that changed my life, I have not stopped thinking about it. I have been thinking how to formulate my words to properly communicate. I will follow the scientific method to conduct this study.
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Define a Question to Investigate
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Make Predictions
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Gather Data
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Analyze the Data
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Draw Conclusions
Let me sum up my thesis in a simple sentence. The Atlantean war happened during the reign of Cecrops, roughly 1550 BCE.
This episode will go over my theory in a much more fluid explanation. I realize that most people can't keep track of my over-excited ADHD brain. Even the ones closest to me complain, usually the loudest. Anyway, I hope you enjoy my ground breaking discovery and I hope I was able to slow down and explain it properly. As always, my sources are linked in my episode description.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0022:text%3DLibrary:book%3D3:chapter%3D14:section%3D1
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boedromia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmose_I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_Stele
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy
https://georgekokkos.com/2018/08/31/parian-marble/
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I started this episode wanting to talk about the Red Island by Cadiz Spain and possibly even the mud flats but I became distracted. Dating the Atlantean war always nags at the back of my head. I started this episode with reading some of Plato and explaining what he means. Then I fell down a rabbithole. I kept everything so you can hear my thought process as I worked out the mystery of the time of the Atlantean war. I can’t believe that I have read over the Critias and Timaeus so many times and missed a very important sentence that actually tells us when this war happened.
I have bounced around different time frames such as after the Trojan war with the invasion of the sea peoples. I have argued that the war happened as early as 600 BCE. I have held strong on not being during the stone age and most definitely not a comet or meteor impact.
As soon as I am done writing this episode, I will go down the Cecrops rabbit hole and hopefully, I come out sane on the other side. These rabbit holes are dangerous to your mental health. I am honestly surprised that I haven’t been committed yet to treat this unhealthy obsession that I have with Atlantis.
This episode focuses on the Critias and the land that is now known as Athens when they first engaged in war. It is a wide ride and I hope you like it as much as I enjoyed finally cracking the case of the time of the war.
As usual, my sources are linked in my episode description.
https://theodora.com/encyclopedia/o/ogyges.html
https://pantheon.org/articles/o/ogyges.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_surviving_ships
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogyges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_ancient_Greece
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This week, I wanted to expand on Pythagoras and how his work influenced Plato. In order to understand what Plato meant we have to dig deep into his psychology. Plato was well influenced by Pythagoras well into his earlier works, way before he wrote about Atlantis. Both Plato and Pythagorus had a vision of a perfect society.
Now, let's take a moment to assign numbers to those notes. We do this every day with computers. Can we say “auto tune”? If a sound could be mathematically orchestrated, what sound would a computer make? Could we mathematically calculate a human? Could I mathematically predict my future child based on gene expression and sound alone? Could a god be a number?
All of these questions and more were pondered 3000 years ago. Pythagorus and Plato spent most of their professional years pondering those questions. It was Pythagoras who popularized the idea of a human having a soul and reincarnation. Could our next lives be mathematically deduced?
https://science.jrank.org/pages/9578/Harmony-Plato-s-Harmonic-Cosmology.html
https://urbeginnerwitch.medium.com/pythagoras-and-numerology-2ccf6d508a54
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A youtube video on numerology started playing and I almost switched it off. I thought about how ridiculous it was but I thought it would be amusing to listen. Well, the narrator said something of interest to me about the numbers 1-9 and how Pythagorus also used this same numbering system.
Pythagoras influenced other ancient Greek authors such as Socrates and Plato. He believed that everything has sound and therefore everything is a number. We can't understand Pythagoras until we understand the myth that inspired him... Orpheus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oeagrus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calliope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristaeus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taenarus_(mythology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurydice
https://www.hellasholiday.com/greece-travel-blog/cape-taenaron-mythical-gate-to-hade
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I had to make an episode about Edgar Cayce. So many people point to him as the leading expert in Atlantis. Just so that you all are aware, I started working on this episode since episode 30. I have lost interest so many times. I love magic just as much as the next person but Cayce butchered Plato’s work. I am going to disclaim that I think Edgar Cayce is silly in so many ways. I am extremely biased against him. Still, I tried to be as neutral as possible.
As usual, my first section gives a bit of background to Cayce. The next section will be an overview of his accuracy and what Cayce’s genre of predictions were. The official Cayce website gives the number of preserved readings as 14,306.6 In 1971, with processing of the records of the Edgar Cayce readings about 98% complete, they numbered 14,246.
Cayce’s predictions also rely completely on the ice age Atlantis theory. I also want to point out that Cayce’s predictions on Atlantis was written about 40 years after Donnelly. As usual, my sources are linked in my episode description.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce
Stephan A Schwartz - a scholar on edgar cayce
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/phoenix/cayce/cayceverification.htm
https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/edgar-cayce
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Recently, we have a new TV series that branches off of the Lord of the Rings called the ring of power. What would you do if you had a ring that could turn you invisible?
Plato’s book “The Republic” ponders just that question with the ring of Gyges. What? Did Tolkien just rip off Plato or was Plato psychic and foresaw Tolkien and wrote about it 2000 years prior? Did Plato know about what Herodotus wrote about the ring of Gyges prior to his thought experiment?
I know, I know. I have more questions than answers. I think that is the way it goes with Classical studies. For this episode, I am going to go over some of Plato’s philosophy and where the Critias and Timeous fairs in his works. There is so much that needs to be known before understanding those two screenplays. I doubt that many will ever really know.
https://www.livius.org/sources/content/herodotus/candaules-his-wife-and-gyges/
https://www.plato-philosophy.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/gyges-a.pdf
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html
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This episode focuses on Plato and his dialogs. He was pushing an agenda and we need to understand his motivations to understand the Critias and Timaeus. My thought started with the precursor to the Olympic games and ended with a very brief overview of Plato’s other dialogues.
I know that I need to go into more detail at another point and I probably will. Just to point out that there are major universities who detail Plato’s works and none really agree with each other. That is the point of philosophy right?
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_(Plato)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timaeus_of_Locri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermocrates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critias
https://www.faculty.umb.edu/gary_zabel/Courses/Morals%20and%20Law/M+L/Plato/rligious.htm
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I am going to tell you about a little obsession the ancient Greeks had about reincarnation and the afterlife. They were very obsessed about a utopia and what it meant to have an ideal society. Especially during Plato’s time. Plato wrote several books about what it meant to be as a perfect utopia. Part of that utopia was the ability to feed yourself with little work and living in an area where the earth provided all necessities for life. It sounds like not much has changed in the last 3000 years.
Elysium was the final resting place of the souls of heroes and virtuous men. The ancients often distinguished two Elysian realms--the islands of the Blessed and the Lethean fields of Haides.
The first of these--also known as the White Island or the Islands of the Blessed--was an afterlife realm reserved for the heroes of myth. It was an island paradise located in the far western stream of the river Okeanos (Oceanus) ruled by the Titan-King Kronos (Cronus) or Rhadamanthys, son of Zeus.
https://greekgodsandgoddesses.net/myths/arcadia/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortunate_Isles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrarianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJCUz3Sb6Z
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This episode is going to focus on the Richat Structure theory. It was made popular by Jimmy from the youtube channel Bright insight, whom I linked in the episode description. Jimmy cites a show from the Gaia channel who also places Atlantis as the Richat structure. While my own eyes light up when I found this theory I eventually was able to break it down and think about it logically with what I already knew.
For those who may hold on to your beliefs, I want you to keep them. I am not trying to disprove your deeply held beliefs merely I am following the science and forming my opinion on quantifiable facts. Emotionally based decisions are the hardest decisions to change without an equally powerful emotion. Just for clarification, I wanted the Richat structure to be Atlantis. I tried to make the rest of what I knew about it fit.
Sadly, when I start taking away from other known descriptions to fit my own narrative, I am not doing science a justice, instead I am sending people on wild goose chases and potentially causing more harm than good. I am taking what I know from Plato and other ancient writers to try to find that needle in a haystack.
I know that most scholars write off Atlantis as a moral story from the imagination of Plato but I truly want to believe in it. I want Atlantis to be true just as much as I want to own my own dragon eggs and ride my very own dragon to work. However, I can also follow the science and accept that Dragons may be extinct and probably snakes and not the really cool fire breathing Game of Thrones dragons.
https://geologyscience.com/gallery/eye-of-the-sahara-or-richat-structure/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Mountains
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrightInsight
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-3.90,24.25,1192
https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/region/117605/earthquakes/ouadane/largest.html
https://imgs.search.brave.com/cCrd-FR9sjYcMFHXTcNgg4v-VAOAMS5LeiEO_2z4HZg/rs:fit:489:348:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9zMy1l/dS13ZXN0LTEuYW1h/em9uYXdzLmNvbS9h/YWltYWdlc3RvcmUv/ZXNzYXlzLzExODEw/MTQuMDA3LnBuZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-S06VgA9xE
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There is so much emphasis on the Great Flood. Most of use picture it in our head as a LONG time ago. Would it surprise you to know that the great flood has been tentatively dated to the Thera Eruption of 1646 BCE?
As we are learning, there were more people who survived the great flood. I briefly mentioned Dardanus in one of my previous episodes so I thought I would expand a bit more. And focus on Dardanus and the lineage of Troy. My sources are linked in my episode description.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardanus_(son_of_Zeus)
https://www.greeklegendsandmyths.com/dardanus.html
https://www.academia.edu/31415177/The_Flood_of_Deucalion_late_XVI_c_BC_and_the_late_date_of_the_Thera_Santorini_eruption_Mythical_astronomical_and_archaeological_chronology?email_work_card=title
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(utopia)
https://www.greeklegendsandmyths.com/lycaon.html
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I did the thing and finished Atlantis: The Antediluvian world and while I learned some, I feel like I lost brain power on this book.
Before I continue, I want to put out a clear disclaimer. I do not agree with Donnelly’s views. Within this episode, I wanted to point out some of the paragraphs that angered me the most. I understand that 1855 was a completely different time but that doesn’t give Donnelly a pass. I have a very hard time being scientifically convinced that skin color determines superiority. I know you all have heard me rant about it and take this book in sizable chunks.
Just like my other ancient sources, I did a background check on Donnelly and tried to paint him in the best light. This book single handedly sparked the Atlantis fever that currently grips the world. He does deserve that credit even if it was politically and religiously motivated. While we are on the subject of religion, I have made reference to the Abrahamic god that is not meant to offend though it probably will.
https://www.eindtijdinbeeld.nl/EiB-Bibliotheek/Boeken/Atlantis_The_Antideluvian_World_by_Ignatius_Donnelly.pdf
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This episode focuses on the coorelation between the ancient Greeks and the Sea peoples. Scholars commonly accept that the names given by the Egyptian Pharaohs are the Egyptian names for the different tribes of ancient Greek tribes.
https://www.worldhistory.org/Sea_Peoples/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilusa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Returns_from_Troy
https://www.greeklegendsandmyths.com/first-sacking-of-troy.html
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For this episode, I will be focusing on the first documented race nationalism. The rise of the earth born or Autochthon and how this word combines Plato and the Ancient Greeks. I will go over some mythology on Hephaestus and Gaia and as usual, leave you with more questions than answers.
I used Plato and wikipedia as my sources along with some distant knowledge locked in my head from who knows where. As usual, my source is in my episode description.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autochthon_(ancient_Greece)
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This episode I thought I would break down the different theories with Plato’s 9000 years ago statement. I will be reading to you some very well put together thoughts on the subject from atlantipedia.ie. They have their own sources cited and I shouldn’t have to reinvent the wheel when it has already been done by people who are arguably smarter than me on the subject.
https://atlantipedia.ie/samples/date-of-atlantis/
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This episode I thought I would share with you a nugget I found about three years back while visiting Nashville Tennessee. This is where I went to visit the replica Parthenon and was trapped in a hotel with little to do.
Michael Hubner was a was a German researcher who presented to the 2008 Atlantis Conference in Athens, a carefully reasoned argument for placing Atlantis in North-West Africa on the Souss-Massa plain of Morocco. He has gathered and organized a range of geographical details and other clues contained in Plato’s text,which he maintained lead inexorably to Morocco.
Hübner also published a number of video clips on his website in support of his theory. He begins with a lucid demonstration of a Hierarchical Constraint Satisfaction (HCS) approach to solving the mystery. These clips offer a body of evidence which are perhaps the most impressive that I have encountered in the course of many years of research.
Tragically, Michael Hübner died in December 2013 as a result of a cycling accident. He left a valuable contribution to Atlantis studies. Mark Adams met Hübner shortly before his death, so in March 2015 when Adams book, Meet me in Atlantis, was published, the ensuing media attention probably gave Hübner’s theory more publicity than when he was alive!
https://web.archive.org/web/20190504001423/http://asalas.com/papers/Huebner_Atlantis_Circumstantial_Evidence_full.pdf
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This episode focuses on that vast garden that belonged to Hera. I am not sure why the garden is more attributed to the daughters of Atlas and Hesperis but this is definitely Hera’s garden. Remember, Clieto had a grove of trees too. Do you think there is a correlation? I often go back and forth between that idea.
https://mythology.net/greek/greek-gods/hesperides/
Source: https://www.greekmythology.com/Other_Gods/Minor_Gods/Hesperides/hesperides.html
https://www.argane-aouzac.com/argan-tree/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antaeus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesperides
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This episode will focus on the lost city of Sais as Plato isn’t the only person who has this story. Presumably the Egyptians still have their copy, written in stone. Perhaps we don’t have to drill a hole in the sphinx's right paw to find a hidden passageway to a hall of records touted by Edgar Cayce fans. What if the lost city of Sais is preserved perfectly under water?
For this episode, I used the help of the following websites:
https://www.world-archaeology.com/features/sais/
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126%3Abook%3D2&force=y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleion
https://www.franckgoddio.org/
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This episode focuses on the great flood. Did Egypt escape it? Was it world wide? Was the greatest deluge was caused the bronze age collapse?
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This episode digs just a bit deeper into the past and present festivals around the area. Of course, there is a bit of mythology thrown in to explain it. You will learn about the fight between Athena and Pallas and learn a new character called Ate. It isn't in my podcast but I just reheard and remembered that Perseus, after visiting the Graiai (Graeae), threw their eye in Lake Triton further solidifying that Medusa was near the Atlas mountains when Perseus killed her.
I personally think that this Chott was Lake Triton and that there was a River Triton that flowed within the Maghreb.
http://journals.openedition.org/encyclopedieberbere/2189
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This episode, I discuss how Heracles and the Amazons fates were intertwined. I briefly talk about the Libyan Amazons and then discuss what happened after Queen Myrina and her sisters. I feel like it is important to understand what was going on in history with these myths. This way we can figure out what the ancient writers meant and what the climate was like.
For this episode, I want to explore what happened to the Amazons in depth. I used my own unpublished book on the amazons which used the work of Diodorus, Herododus, Homer, Hesiod, Strabo, Herodian, Plato, Arctinus, and Apollonius. I have been working on this for over 3 years now. I am not sure it will ever be done.
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This episode I read over Hanno's translated voyage notes as well as the accompanying scholarly notes. Hanno was a Carthaginian explorer who set out from Carthage and sailed past the pillars to explore the Atlantic coast of Africa. The city of Cerne makes an appearance and you can decide if it is the same Cerne of Diodorus's account of the Amazons.
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For this episode, I am going to go over a famous harbor city that suddenly disappeared from history. It has been referenced as another possible location for Atlantis and has been examined by archaeologists for years. Tartessos. To accomplish this, I am going to use the help from the following authors:
Herotodus - Known as the father of history, endeavored to create an encyclopedia on world history. Living from around 484 BCE - 425 BCE. He died around the time that Plato was born.
Plato - a classical Greek intellectual who is our primary source for Atlantis. Living roughly around 425 BCE. Atlantis was written in 360 BCE.
Ephorus - was an ancient Greek historian known for his universal history living from roughly 400 BCE – 330 BCE
Arrian - was a Greek historian, public servant, military commander and philosopher of the Roman period. Living from 86/89 CE after 146/160 CE
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This episode focuses on another Phoenician city, Carthage. You will learn the mythology of its formation as well as strange similarities between the founders of the Carthage and the Libyan Amazons. The shape of ancient Carthage sounds very similar to Atlantic City. Could it be that some of the survivors of Atlantic city helped form Carthage?
Plato Diodorus Virgil Junianus Justinus Wikipedia
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An article ran across my feed last week that made me super excited. I have linked it in my episode description and would love to know your thoughts. The title reads “Ancient Namibian stone holds key to future quantum computers”. This stone is a deep red crystal like in appearance and it is mined on the Atlantic coast of South West Africa. The chemical compound is Cu2O which is two parts copper and one part oxygen. Within the article it states “The research used a naturally mined cuprous oxide (Cu2O) gemstone from Namibia to produce Rydberg polaritons, the largest hybrid particles of light and matter ever created.”
Could this be the infamous “Mountain copper” or Orichalcum? I did a quick look on google maps and it does appear to have some elevations but I am not sure if those would be considered mountains. Either way, It is possible that this stone could be found in North west Africa too. Could it be that Orichalum is not really a metal but a gemstone? Nothing really suggests that it is metal other than it being called “Mountain Copper”.
For this episode, I will continue on with Herakles and talk about the more famous one. I will surprise you with a Herakles that you didn’t know as well as make connections with other figures throughout ancient cultures.
https://www.miragenews.com/ancient-namibian-stone-holds-key-to-future-765520/
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Herakles is a very tough subject to approach and I will do my best for this episode and following episodes. The roman Hercules and the Greek Herakles ended up absorbing at least three different people into one story so detangling the storylines is tedious and difficult. I have not spent as much time as I would like making sure that I have all of the points correct. However, if I did that, I wouldn’t have an episode on Herakles for a few years.
For this episode, I will be breaking down the Pheonicians and the Pheonician Herakles. I will use the help of the following Authors:
Herotodus, an ancient Greek historian and geographer from the Greek city of Halicarnassus. Herodotus was the first writer to do systematic investigation of historical events. He is referred to as "The Father of History" and lived from 484 BCE to 425 BCE.
An article from Haaretz.com on the pool of Baal.
An article from greekcitytimes.com on the temple of Melqart found by Cadiz Spain
And a post from forumancientcoins.com on the coin history of Ba’al Melqart.
https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/MAGAZINE-monumental-structure-isn-t-phoenician-harbor-it-s-a-sacred-pool-of-baal-1.10679272
https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/12/22/temple-of-hercules-gaditanus-where-the-god-was-worshipped-by-the-ancient-greeks-and-romans-in-the-9th-century-bc-may-have-been-discovered-off-the-coast-of-spain/
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=vokpnb71pj27ol2v0i5tr08l5l&topic=25089.100
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When I first read book 3 of Diodrus’s account of the Amazons and the Atlanteans, I went down the rabbit hole pretty deep on the Amazons. What a story. In many ways, I am still processing it. I love DC’s Wonder Woman as most women do. DC, borrowed heavily off of the myth of the Amazons. I would love to one day talk to you about some wild theories of mine regarding them. Remember, History is usually written by the conquerors.
What do you think about these myths? Do you think they could be true? For this episode, I will be using Diodorus’s account of the Libyan Amazons. He wrote a very complete history of Greek myths up to Alexander the great. He died around 120 BCE.
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We have spent a lot of time on Plato's Atlantis and very little on Diodorus who has an equally mesmerizing account of this lost city. Diodorus gives a different account as to the birthplace of the Gods. Did you know that there were two different Zeuses? Find out more in this episode.
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This episode was another one where I wanted to go one way but ended up going another. My question for this episode was “At what point was Athens powerful enough to be victorious against the Atlanteans?” and ended up with a brief overview of Crete and Minoan culture. This rich and intriguing culture deserves more than one episode and perhaps I will bring it up again. For now, this episode should make you feel a bit closer to an old legend and help you get a feel for the political climate a few generations before the Trojan war.
The focus was Athens of course and Theseus was the legendary king of Athens that turned it into the powerhouse that we are led to believe. It couldn’t be that 95% of all recovered ancient Greek texts were found in Athens and that there might be a slight cultural bias. As someone who has read the Iliad and the Odyssey, willingly I might add, it is surprising how little of a presence Athens had. The powerhouse of the day was Mycenae and the legendary king Agamemnon.
wikipedia
The Legend of King Minos from Makrigialos.com
https://www.makrigialos.com/?article=minos
Bronze Age Cyprus and Troy VI-VII from Livius.org
https://www.livius.org/articles/place/cyprus/
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For this episode, we do a bit more of a deep dive into ancient mythology. I start by sharing the work of Herodotus and his writings on the Atlantes. We then learn how and why cows are sacred and end with how Egypt and the Greeks had a common ancestor. The focus of this episode is to place a bit more history behind these names and understand how the ancients thought.
Map according to Herodotus
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This episode focuses on the history of War-chariots and we try to narrow down a time where Plato is talking about. How plausible is it that the Atlanteans launched a navel battle alone? How large was their army? All of these answers are in this episode.
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We are coming to the conclusion of Plato's works. This episode focuses on the remaining details of the Plants and Animals of the land of Atlas. Then we transition into the war between Atlantis, Egypt, and Athens. Do you still think the war happened in 11,500 BCE?
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For this episode, I will tell you about Poseidon’s Temple that was located next to the golden palace in the center island. I will discuss how it looked inside and out and you will learn about the ritual with the bull that ends with a sunken city that could be our Atlantis. Take this journey with me as we finish up Plato's works and become mini experts in our search.
https://realhistory.co/2019/06/01/helike-the-real-life-atlantis/
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This week we take a peak as to what is inside the red orichalcum walls. We find out what Poseidon's descendants did to the hot and cold springs. We compare Cleito's palace to Hesiod's Triton's house. We also learn about ancient Greek naming conventions as well as a possible unique way to procreate.
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This is the episode I have been working so hard to get to. I start explaining what The Royal City looked like. Since the Royal City was a harbor city, it was full of ships and merchants from all over. The Atlanteans had giant walls and were master stone masons. Take this journey with Plato and me to the Royal City.
I go over the evolution of ships and the article can be found here.
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Take this journey that starts from the mythology of the Olympics and ends with the size of the plain of Atlantis. Debate with me as to which stadium is more accurate.. Olympic or Egyptian.
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In this episode you will learn one of my greatest fears as well as disliked foods. I begin with soil liquefaction and end with ancient Libya. Take this journey from Port Royal, Jamaica and end with Atlantic City, Atlantis. I used an article from Devastating Disasters.com and encourage you to read it all.
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This episode goes over the difference between Oceanus, Poseidon, and Triton. Who holds the Tripod now? There is so much more to this story but I need to stay focused. Debate with me as to what Plato meant when he said “the island of Atlantis disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.”
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In this episode, I go over the red orichalcum walls of Poseidon's temple. I share my draw to Atlantis as well as the terrible fate of the Atlanteans. I compare the story of Odysseus with odd similarities to the first commandment of Poseidon.
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This episode starts the introduction into Plato's works. Explained within are the different sources such as Homer, Hesiod, Diodorus, Herodotus, Virgil, and Apollodorus. This starts with the contest between Poseidon and Athena and ends with baby Atlas. Listen to me butcher Greek words and try to make sense of insanity. You will be introduced to one of the first rulers of Athens and he is slither than imagined. My family has been making sure that I stay at a slower pace. I have a propensity to information vomit. Just from trying to make the first episode, I made five. There is so much more to come and I look forward to sharing it with you.
Every Thursday at 9 PM.
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This is the inaugural episode and my first ever podcast. This episode will be mostly introductions, a brief overview of Atlantis, terminology, and lore. This is for you to get a feel for me and enjoy a comforting barrage of information. I am open to suggestions and look forward to see if this is my calling.
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