APAC Marketers Roundtable Podcast: Recent Episodes

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Raphael Cohen, CEO of Deskimo, was formerly Rocket Internet's Head of Asia, where he was the launcher for Foodpanda in Vietnam. I ask him what it takes to bootstrap supply and demand for a marketplace business

Where do you start, supply or demand?

Practically speaking - how do you get supply?

How to convince skeptical supply to sign up

How to drive demand

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Raphael Cohen, CEO of Deskimo and fmr Rocket Internet Head of Asia, gives us a short recent history of the last decade of the tech ecosystem in Southeast Asia.

What life was like pre-Grab, pre-Gojek, pre-Shopee

Lazada, Zalora, Foodpanda in the same office

How building a company was different

The distinct change in investor appetites

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Romka Walkowiak, Sales Director at HubSpot, talks about why you need to run pilot tests and experiments in APAC.

I also add my 2c on the "key question" that all APAC teams have to answer, especially when expanding into Southeast Asia.

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I chat with HubSpot Asia Sales Director Romka Walkowiak about how she coaches and manages team members all across APAC.

Sales and marketing leaders in APAC usually have to manage teammates from a variety of nationalities and cultural backgrounds. With 10+ years leading teams in the region, she gave a great answer (that honestly left me feeling a bit dumb! in a good way.)

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I chat with Jean Thomas (CMO @ Pomelo Fashion, ex-CMO Lazada SG/Redmart) about growing brands in Southeast Asia, how he runs his marketing team, and what he learned by crashing servers during a livestream.

We discuss:

What to ask before expanding into SEA

How to set up a marketing roadmap in a competitive industry

How to set up a marketing strategy based on principles

His view on current state of Shopee vs Lazada

Adventures in ecommerce livestreaming

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A clip from an upcoming episode with Jean Thomas (CMO Pomelo Fashion, ex-Lazada/Alibaba) where he answers questions that companies usually ask when starting to expand into Southeast Asia.

Jean advises companies looking at APAC and SEA expansion, and he shared some of the things he usually covers with them:

How to manage the "awful" unit economics vs EMEA or USA

Hiring talent - bringing in home country operators vs hiring local

Should you start in just one country or go cross-border / multi-country right away?

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Career frameworks, advice and stories from APAC marketing leaders across big tech and startups. We cover when to quit your job, how to think about your 20s 30s 40s and 50s, and other ideas that help you navigate the middle of your marketing career.

We cover:

How to think about your career in decades

How to avoid chasing the wrong things in your career

How to create a career "north star"

How to leave a job that's paying you really really well

Guests on this show:

James Gilbert, Sr Director Partnerships Marketing @ HubSpot

Yi Ning Lim, Head of Global Marketing @ Entrepreneur First

Dexter Zhuang, Product Lead @ Xendit

Robert Lai, CEO @ Kaliber Performance Marketing Agency

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How do you build a career GPS or a career north star? Here's a framework from Dexter Zhuang, Product Leader @ Xendit, former Growth PM @ Dropbox and career coach to people in tech.

In this clip:

A simple exercise to identify your career values

Stories of people who have course-corrected their career

How and Why Dexter left Silicon Valley for Southeast Asia

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Regional marketing within APAC is one thing, but what about global? Gabriel Lim (CEO @ Salewhale) gives the B2B SaaS view while HY Teo (marketer @ crypto / blockchain startup) shares how it could work in B2C.

What's in this episode:

Why adapting messaging globally is counter-intuitive

How crypto companies grow w/o relying on FB and Google ads

Do you have to create a zillion personas to cover all your markets?

Examples of global companies doing regional marketing

Discussions on org charts and team structures

Practical tips on working with a remote/distributed team

Is there a stigma to being based in Asia?

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A clip from an upcoming episode on marketing globally from APAC. You'll hear from HY Teo, a marketer at an international crypto startup and how they handle all the personas and use cases that make up their target audience.

In this clip:

Dynamics of different regions, like Latam vs Europe

Knowing incentive levers for each region

Geo-based, JTBD-based personas

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With so much VC money flooding APAC today - especially SEA and India - you may be tempted to jump to a startup. How do you know if it's the right choice for you? Hear from Yi Ning Lim (Global Head of Marketing at Entrepreneur First) about how she would approach this, drawing from her experience of working in big tech and startups.

You'll hear about:

  • A framework to evaluate startups

  • Questions to ask before you join a startup

  • How to think about your career and financial "opportunity cost"

This is a clip from an upcoming episode about careers. Stay tuned!

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This is a clip from a longer conversation with Jean Thomas, CMO of Pomelo Fashion. Jean was formerly the CMO of Lazada SG/Redmart and so I had to ask him what he thought about Shopee vs Lazada. Here's his candid take.

You'll hear about:

  • Lazada finally "punching back" after letting Shopee take the lead in SEA

  • The inside view of what happened during the Alibaba/Lazada merger

  • Jean's take on what's allowed Shopee to grow so quickly

You may also be interested in my deep dive on Shopee.

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When doing business across the USA and APAC, you're going to run into a lot of situations where "what works over there doesn't work over here." Once you really start executing, you'll find that one of those things is messaging and positioning.

The messaging you have for a market like Australia (English-speaking and resembles America in many ways) has to be different from the one you use in the Philippines (which also speaks English, but also has many singular qualities.)

The inevitable second hurdle then becomes finding an answer to the question of "well, how different does my messaging have to be?"

In this short clip, Gabriel Lim (CEO @ Saleswhale) describes their experiences tweaking their messaging when speaking to APAC audiences vs speaking to their prospects in the USA.

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