Beyond The Pass: Recent Episodes
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This is Beyond the Pass - conversations with people from all walks of hospitality life. Centring mental health, Beyond the Pass is a conversation about life, hospitality, and what makes us get out of bed each day.
Beyond the Pass is produced by the Kelly’s Cause Foundation. For more information about Kelly’s Cause please head to kellyscause.com or find us on instagram @kellyscause.
Kelly's Cause is produced by Rachel Kerr-Lapsley. Artwork and design by Rose Knighty.
Madeleine Geach is here! Madeline is a Hospitality Leadership Coach, Best-selling author and ex head of people and culture at Hawksmoor. They have been named a CODE most influential women in hospitality two times over and are a restaurant enthusiast through and through. Tune in to hear us chat about the challenges of boundary setting, enjoying a lush confit duck and the absolute magic of smashing out service with your team.
Shout out to the wonderful Oma in Borough Market for claiming the title of best restaurant Madeleine's been to this year, the operators at Elliots for being great humans and last but not least to Madeleine's Hospitality Hero, the one and only Eadaoin McDonagh, COO at White Rabbit Projects.
After additional wisdom nuggets? Curious about Hospitality Leadership Coaching? Head to @thegoodlifecoaching on insta or email madeleine@thegoodlifecoaching.net to keep in touch and follow along the Good Life journey.
George Gill is here! As the Community Manager at CODE and The Good Food Guide, George is all about shining a spotlight on restaurants that embody incredible workplace culture. With a deep passion for hospitality, he’s dedicated to celebrating the spaces where teams thrive and guests feel the love. Tune in to hear this self confessed nostalgic reminisce about the glamour of fish and chips at J Sheekey’s circa 1997, the responsibility of food media in championing a new style of operator and the magic of Nigel Slater and Bill Nighy sharing a Lobster Thermidor.
Massive shout out to George’s Hospitality Hero, his very own Nan—queen of peas done right— with more butter than you’ve ever seen and a generous serving of sugar. Rightful props to The Black Swan in Olstead which has been George’s best meal so far this year and The Plough at Bolnhurst which is the true number one in his heart.
Fatti Tarkleman is here! They are a multi hat wearing chef and recipe developer, currently at Willows in Clapham and founder of the supper club, Eat Cute, designed for queer folks to eat and meet cute. Fatti is a passionate activist for better mental health in the hospitality industry and in general, advocating for supportive work environments and better resources for teams. Through her platform, @foodventures_with_fatti, they share recipes that delight us and actively fosters a more inclusive and mentally healthy culinary community. Tune in to hear us bang on about deep fried pickles, mental health in kitchens and boldly trolling down Clapham high street with a hip to toe leg of lamb!
Shout outs to Camberwell Arms and Common Press for being great places to work, Kromanti Rum for being delicious and Silo in East London for always being creative and delish.
Biggest shout outs of all to Fatti's Hospitality Hero(es): Lorraine Copes, founder of Be Inclusive Hospitality, our very own Tobie Anna Durk, chef extraordinaire Ixta Belfridge and last but certainly not least chef Keisha Sakarah of Caribe fame!
We are kicking off Season 4 with the fabulous Paul Spencer. Beginning as a chef in the French suburbs, Paul worked his way from BOH to FOH all the way to his current role of COO at Edyn overseeing the brands Locke, Cove and SACO, operating in nine countries by the close of 2024. Paul is a force for good in hospitality, showing up as a role model and guide for creating a more mentally healthy way to operate as a leader. Tune in to hear us talk about the cost of admission in a passion driven career, honesty as power and the true delight of making someone's day.
Special shout out to Paul's Hospitality Hero(s) Marcus Waring and Theo Randall for being not only great chefs but indeed great people too and praise where praise is due to Le Mary Celeste in Paris for taking the title of best restaurant Paul has eaten at so far this year.
Tom Rees is here! They are brilliant! It's the final episode of the season! For some reason it sounds like I recorded this in the bottom of a well! We will invest in a really beautiful mic for season 4! Can't wait to be back with y'all in the fall!
Hailing from Wales, Tom has spent the last 7 years in London working at many renowned industry haunts including Trullo, Club Mexicana and Bubala London, where they now work as a Supervisor and D&I advocate. As a non-binary individual, Tom deeply values inclusivity and strives to create a welcoming environment in all their endeavours. Recently, Tom completed their BSc in Human Nutrition and launched their own consultancy, Wylde Nutrition, marking the start of their career in nutrition alongside their advocacy work in hospo. Tune in to hear us talk about the best paying barbecue job in the world, the late great George Michael and the best way to support trans and gender non confirming people at work!
A very big cheer for Tom's Hospitality Hero, the brilliant brilliant chef Diarmuid Goodwin!
Fancy a Wylde Nutrition picnic this summer?? Head to www.wylde-nutrition.com
On this episode the incomparable Michelle Moreno sits down with us. Michelle is a true hospitality pro who has travelled all over the world opening, consulting and creating bars and restaurants. These days she is the founder and director of QAB Leadership and especially focused on supporting women into leadership positions across the industry. Her wisdom is unmatched - tune in to hear the truth about imposter syndrome, the beauty of the Real Housewives and why the P&L should be banished forever.
A massive shoutout to Michelle's hospitality hero Annie Wilde!!!! and a smaller shout out to Mike Hayden who didn't get the official title but was a very good boss.
Find Michelle on instagram @qableadership or on their website https://qableadership.com
In this episode we are sitting down with the brilliant and innovative Paramjit and Bruce Nagra. They are the founders of Crazy Gin, an innovative distillery that is disrupting the status quo in flavour and practice . Committed to creating more space in the drinks industry for a new diverse generation of distillers, Crazy Gin are innovating and advocating in equal measure. Tune in to hear us chat about what inspired inventing mango lassi gin, busting through the wall when the door is closed to you and the importance of making space at the table.
On this episode we sit down with the fabulous Sofia Gassne. Sofia has two decades of hospitality experience spanning basically every role that can be done. She is currently the Head of HR at Hawksmoor and the founder of Culture Bar, which facilitates hospitality specific training focused on Women’s Safety, anti-harrassment and bullying, DEI and much much more. Tune in to hear us throw down about the cost of harassment in the workplace, the Horniman museum's take on Sweden and the pure goodness of a friend making you bolognese for dinner.
Massive shout to Sofia's hospitality hero Angela Hartnett (but she couldn't pick just one so shout outs are also due to Queena Wong!)
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we sit down with chef Adam Hardiman for a brilliant and vulnerable conversation about kitchens, sobriety and survival. Adam has nearly 30 years of experience including owning and operating the Dalston staple that was Madame Pigg. A recovering addict, Adam’s time in kitchens has gone from chaos to calm. Tune in to hear his insight on walking through hard feelings, getting humbled in recovery and the best meal he has had in the past month (spoiler it's his own eggs on toast.)
In this episode we are sitting down with the marvellous Hebe Richardson. Prior to graduating King’s as a registered nutritionist, Hebe was a restaurant human through and through, working in both back and front of house roles. Their industry experience has deeply informed their practice as a nutritionist and they continue to work in different corners of the industry, focusing on the ‘why’ of our relationship to food and health. Tune in to hear the infinite wisdom of a HAES approach to nutrition, the delight of food in Yorkshire (thank you mushy peas) and the inane absurdity of calorie counts on menus across the land!
A special shoutout to Hebe's Hospitality Heroes in no particular order - Nigella Lawson, Nigel Slater and Ruby Tandoh (and an honourable mention to the burrata at Forza Wine)
On this episode we sit down with the brilliant chef Pratap Chahal. Pratap spent a decade in some very prestigious kitchens and then changed course to take an alternative approach to a career in food. They founded That Hungry Chef, which alongside fermenting all things known to man is now London’s longest running, and most dearly beloved, supper club. A recipe & product developer and private chef - Pratap’s focus on pure unbridled hospitality is truly inspiring. Tune in to hear us dissect the baptism of fire of starting a kitchen career in Claridges, the necessity of modelling vulnerability and the icon status of beloved pop queen Pink.
Special shoutouts to Chez Bruce, claiming the title of best kitchen Pratap ever worked in and to Jose Andres, Pratap's hospitality hero!!
Today we are sitting down with Craig Prentice. Craig wears many hats - he is the founder of Hospitality talent partner Mum., a patron of Hospitality Action and the creator of the Walk for Wellbeing. A truly people focused leader in the industry, Craig is committed to centring the wellbeing of the humans who comprise hospitality in everything he does. Tune in to hear us discuss the ups and down of taking care of your mental health, the thrill of a good celebrity sighting and the necessity of an all hands on deck approach changing the the hospitality industry for the better!
A special shout out to the brilliant Sean Wheeler, who is Craig's Hospitality hero for showing up in all ways big and small for a better industry.
On this episode we sit down with the brilliant Shell Righini. Shell is a proudly sober hospitality professional and the founder of We Recover Loudly which centres conversations around addiction and recovery for folks in the hospitality industry, providing training, support and resources. Tune in to hear Shell's brilliant insight on addiction in hospitality, how we can take an intersectional approach to industry wellbeing and the beauty of a brunch well done.A special shout out to operations manager Rebecca Pout, who is Shell's hospitality hero and brought into their life many brilliant nuggets of wisdom including that you are only as good as your day off. GENIUS.Curious about recovery? Check out these communities:Sober Boozers Club @sober_boozers_clubSober Butterfly Collective @soberbutterflycollective One Year No Beer @oynbRecoverlution @recoverlution Ben's Friends @bensfriendshope
We are kicking off this season with the fabulous Raj Markandoo. Raj is the operations manager at Bubala and a mentor with Be Inclusive hospitality. They are an advocate extraordinaire, focused on having open and honest conversations about mental health and the lived experience of being QPOC in hospitality. Tune in to hear us throw down about sobriety in hospitality, being the hospo professionals we wish we had when we were young and the lasting greatness of Kelly Osbourne's musical career.A special shout out to the founder of Bubala, Marc Summers, who is Raj's hospitality hero!
On the season finale of Beyond the Pass we are sitting down with Josh Ebsworth. Josh’s industry experience spans all corners, they are a chef, have run their own small food business, worked in food development and are currently the Community Manager at Togather (formerly known at Feast It) which connects small food vendors with events of all scale. Tune in to hear us throw down about learning from the best, the route out of kitchens when they no longer serve you and the pure magic of illegally cooking a side of beef on the Bermondsey pavement.
On this episode we talk to the fabulous David Paulin. David is a Mental Health First Aid Instructor at Kelly’s Cause and a freelance Project Manager - his work focuses on planning and delivering programmes that use creativity as a tool in order to improve wellbeing, create social connections and affect change. Starting behind the bar at a Belfast rugby club, David is a true hospitality pro - tune in to hear us throw down about the hidden emotional labour of pulling pints, the importance of boundaries and the challenges of having a dinner guest from ancient Egypt.
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we sit down with London based chef and a qualified integrative therapist Merly Kammerling. They are the founder of Me Myself in Mind which provides workshops, one-to-one therapy and group facilitation, specifically for the hospitality industry. Tune in to hear us talk about all things therapy, the power of listening to yourself and the deep joy of kitchen life that never truly leaves us.
To get in touch with Merly and find out more about Me Myself in Mind by visiting their website https://www.memyselfinmind.com or reaching out on Instagram @me_myself_inmind
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we are sitting down with the brilliant Olajide Alabi. Olajide is an Equality, Equity & Inclusion Disrupter and the co-founder of SISU: An Equality, Equity, Inclusion and Wellbeing consultancy. They are committed to disrupting the status quo in hospitality and beyond. Tune in to hear us throw down about the magic of TGIFridays, SISU’s powerful work in the industry and the essential role equity will play in hospitality’s survival.Check out SISU here: https://www.thisissisu.co.ukCheck out On The Sofa With SISU here: https://www.youtube.com/@SISUciety/videos
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we sit down with the incomparable Hassel Aviles! Hassel is a hospitality pro and the founder of Not 9 to 5, a non-profit global leader in mental health advocacy for the foodservice and hospitality sector. Advocating education and a reimagining of the way we understand our industry, Hassel is a leading voice for change in hospitality. Tune in to hear us throw down about about getting hooked on restaurants, the absurdity of the brigade system and the art of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
Check out the teachers we talk about in the episode!
- Dr. Jennifer Mullan (Book coming "Decolonizing therapy" coming out soon!) - https://www.decolonizingtherapy.com & https://www.instagram.com/decolonizingtherapy/
- Tricia Hersey - (Book called "Rest Is Resistance" - everyone needs to read!!) http://www.triciahersey.com & https://www.instagram.com/thenapministry/
- Nedra Tawab - (Book called "Set boundaries, find peace" & there's a new one coming out this summer!) https://www.nedratawwab.com& https://www.instagram.com/nedratawwab
*TW: suicide, suicidal ideation. 42min 29sec to 44min 00sec.
On this episode we sit down with Emma Ross! After spending 15 years cheffing on super yachts, Emma qualified as a Mental Health First Aid instructor and - with the help of fellow yacht chef @cookinanook - founded Seas the Mind, which supports the mental health of those working at sea. A dedicated mental health advocate and hospitality superstar, Emma is growing Seas the Mind and also training for us at Kelly’s Cause! Tune in to hear us throw down about filling up an empty tank, sourcing new dinning room chairs in the middle of the ocean and the life saving power of conversation.
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we chat with Lorraine Copes. Lorraine is the founder of Be Inclusive Hospitality - a social enterprise and non profit committed to advancing racial equity in the industry. Along with founding BIH and being a driving force in the sector, she is also a hospo consultant and life coach - we were delighted to have her join us on the pod! Listen in for the best kept secret in hospitality, the unequivocal brilliance of Chishuru and the importance of working for a business that invests in its people.
Head over to @beinclusivehospitalty to check out how you can get involved in their growing community <3
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we are joined by the incredible Paris Bargchi. A London based hospitality pro - she has unbridled passion for this industry and a commitment for making it the best place possible for the people driving it. Tune in to hear us throw down about the glorious work happening @offbeatwines, how we can offer better support to our teams and what happens when we centre the true definition of hospitality in everything we do.
Welcome to season two of Beyond the Pass! We are talking to chef and author Melanie White. Tune in to hear us discuss her debut memoir Behind Ocean Lines - a powerful story shining light into the dark crevices of the luxury yachting industry. We throw down about about the wild antics of a life at sea, the realities of mental health in yachting and the mighty mighty Shard!!
On the season finale episode of Beyond the Pass we were so lucky to chat with the brilliant Dan Lepard. He is the maverick behind London’s most loved breads, a trailblazing queer and a true industry legend. Tune in to hear us rant and rave over queer innovation in hospitality, why carrots should taste like carrots and his go to dinner spot in London (spoiler its @ St JOHN).
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we sit down with the brilliant chef and author Sal Dhalla. Through their company The Food Witch (@foodwitchsal) they are on a mission to have us reconnect to food and start cooking intutively. Listen in as they brilliantly dismantle capitalism, froth for in-season asparagus and sing the praises of London’s best Pain au Chocolate (Thank you @Jolene).
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we chat with Alex Large, co-founder and co-owner of Brother Marcus. Starting out on a shoestring budget to build a restaurant group celebrating its 6th year and 3rd site, Alex lets us in on some of the wild ride. Join us as we discuss the highs and lows of hospitality, DIYing your way into the industry and the beauty of putting out fires big and small.
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we sit down with the brilliant Hester Ruoff. She is a BAFTA nominated producer who most recently brought us the hospitality love letter/nightmare that was Boiling Point. Tune in as we break down movie making kitchen magic, fulfilling duties of care and why you don’t have to choose between custard and ice cream when enjoying an apple crumble.
TW: Self Harm - Please note we talk about self harm in this episode. If you’d like to skip over that portion of our conversation it begins at 43min 06sec and ends at 44min 03 sec
Join us on this episode of Beyond the Pass as we throw down with the fascinating Hezena Lees Mlang'a. Looking back at her career in hospitality after leaving the industry for a career in mental health, Hezena gets into the peaks and valleys of her time in hospitality, transferable skill sets and the superior fridge essentials.
Join us on this episode of Beyond the Pass with the oh so talented Zak Reavenall-Nuete. He is an extraordinary chef and an extraordinary human - he knows he’s got nothing to prove but what you can put on a plate and runs a kitchen without any toxic masculinity leaking out of the fryers. Tune in to hear about his fish n’ chips shop start, building the kinds of kitchens he wants to see in the world and using mental health first aid in practice.
On this episode of Beyond the Pass we talk to Hannah-Beth Naughton. Hannah is a hospitality veteran and current Operations Manager for Pubs Project at JKS. Tune in to hear us throw down about the greatest bars in Leeds, moving on from work families that you love and where to hide dead bodies!
Special shoutouts to the badass women at JKS, legendary Leeds boozer Sandinista, and the incredible management team at Burger and Lobster.
If you’re in town this Christmas, head down to The George on Great Portland St and raise a glass to this legend!
Welcome to this very special bonus episode of Beyond the Pass to celebrate our 2nd birthday. In this episode our very own Rachel Kerr-Lapsley turns the mic on Founder and Director Tobie-Anna Durk. Tune in to hear them shoot the shit about Kelly's Cause, the highs and lows of hospitality and giving up the dream of becoming a marine biologist!
We are so excited to bring you this month’s episode of Beyond The Pass! We had the pleasure of talking to the incredible Ifeyinwa Fredrick for this episode. Ifeyinwa is the co-founder of Chuku’s, a talented playwright, banging dancer and all around kick-ass leader in the industry.
On this episode of Beyond the Pass, Kelly's Cause Founder and Director Tobie Anna talks with absolute legend Camilla Morgan. Camilla is the Sales Manager at Victoria Arduino and a chairperson for the incredible Kore Directive. Tune in to hear Camilla and Tobie-Anna talk representation in coffee, the impending revolution in hospitality and the undeniable beauty of Jason Statham.