You're (Not) Welcome Here: Recent Episodes
Jaclyn Yost & Dr. Kelly Cerialo
In this podcast, we'll be diving into the world of sustainable tourism, interviewing tourism thought leaders, destination marketing organizations, and responsible businesses.
Join us as we explore the ins and outs of sustainable travel and discover new ways to make a positive impact on the world.
In episode five, sit down with Jaclyn and Kelly as they with Ashlei Laing how Rē : The Regenerative School is catalyzing transformative learning to build a more just, peaceful, and sustainable world.
p.s. – despite the name of the podcast, remember that you are always welcome here.
Episode Resources:
Website: https://regenerativeschool.org/
In episode four, join Jaclyn and Kelly as they sit down with Jeanpaul Morselli from Classic Boats Venice to discuss what unsustainable tourism looks like, particularly in Venice, as well as his incredible work with Classic Boats Venice, and the solutions the tour company has created to address mass tourism.
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Episode Resources:
Website: https://www.classicboatsvenice.com/ (15% coupon code: ecomadic)
In episode three, join Jaclyn and Kelly as they sit down with Lebawit ‘Lily’ Girma to discuss Lily’s career in travel journalism and how her experiences have led her to focus on impact storytelling, spotlighting travel as a force for good.
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Speaker Bio:
Lebawit “Lily" Girma is an Ethiopian American freelance travel journalist with more than 10 years’ experience in sustainable tourism reporting and storytelling for consumer and trade outlets. Lily currently contributes full-time to Bloomberg Pursuits, the luxury lifestyle arm of Bloomberg News and Bloomberg Businessweek. Prior to that, she was editor-at-large and global tourism reporter at Skift, where she covered the post-pandemic evolution and future of tourism with a focus on equity and sustainability.
Lily’s writing and photography have been published over the years in BBC Travel, National Geographic Traveller UK, CNN,, Travel & Leisure, Conde Nast Traveler, and Sierra Magazine, among others.
She appears regularly in the media and at events as a speaker or moderator on global tourism topics — including CNN with Richard Quest, Bloomberg CityLab, Skift Global Forum, ITB Berlin, WTM Africa, and Women in Travel Summit.
A former corporate attorney, Lily ditched her Washington DC law office for the road in 2008 to follow her passion for storytelling and social impact through travel. She currently splits her time between Maryland and the Dominican Republic, where she has family on both ends.
Episode Resources:
To learn more about Lily’s work, visit her sustainable tourism news and storytelling website at https://tourismlens.com
Listen to the first episodes of her newly launched Tourism Lens Podcast.
Read and follow her reported travel stories for Bloomberg at https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AV_B1amvDss/lebawit-lily-girma
Follow Lily on your favorite social media network!
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lebawit
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tourismlens
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sunandstilettos/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tourismlens_
Travel Guidebooks: Moon Belize and Moon Dominican Republic
In episode two, Jaclyn and Kelly sit down with Marinel de Jesus, founder of Brown Gal Trekker and The Porter Voice Collective. Tune in to hear about Marinel’s new documentary – KM 82: THE PORTER VOICES OF PERU’S CAMINO INCA – and how she advocates for fair and equitable working conditions for porters in Peru, Nepal, and Tanzania – the three most popular mountain trekking tourism destinations in the world.
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Speaker Bio:
Marinel de Jesus is a former human rights lawyer turned social entrepreneur, writer, speaker, and advocate. She is the founder of Brown Gal Trekker / Equity Global Treks which is an award-winning social enterprise that promotes trekking to solo travelers worldwide with a focus on women's leadership and workforce equity while making a long-lasting impact on local mountain communities. Most recently, she founded the nonprofit human rights organization, The Porter Voice Collective, which aims to advocate for the labor and indigenous rights of porters or mountain expedition workers in Peru, Nepal and Tanzania.
Through The Porter Voice Collective, Marinel has also spearheaded the recently released documentary film, KM 82: The Porter Voices of Peru's Camino Inca, which aims to shed light on the workforce inequities that the porters face on the Inca Trail and their struggle to create a more equitable mountain trekking industry.
Episode Resources:
The Porter Voice Collective: https://theportervoicecollective.org/
KM 82: THE PORTER VOICES OF PERU’S CAMINO INCA (subscribe to view the documentary : https://theportervoicecollective.org/km%2082%20film/
8 WAYS TOURISTS CAN ADVOCATE FOR WORKFORCE EQUITY FOR PORTERS IN PERU, NEPAL AND TANZANIA: https://theportervoicecollective.org/8-ways-tourists-can-advocate-for-workforce-equity-for-porters-in-peru-nepal-and-tanzania/
Matador Network Viewing (May 25th - June 8th, 2023): https://matadornetwork.com/read/km-82-film-inca-trail/
Welcome back to season two of the ‘You're (Not) Welcome Here’ podcast by ecomadic, co-hosted by Jaclyn Yost and Dr. Kelly Cerialo!
After a successful first season exploring many different aspects of sustainable travel, season two will be diving deep into the world of unsustainable travel.
In episode one, join Jaclyn and Kelly as they share their own unsustainable travel tales from over the years – shedding light on the negative impacts of tourism and offering practical solutions for a more conscious approach to travel.
p.s. – despite the name of the podcast, remember that you are always welcome here.
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Can you believe S1 of 'You're (Not) Welcome Here' podcast by ecomadic is already over?! Thank you so much to all of our listeners out there. S2 will be coming your way May 12th. We can't wait to share 'Unsustainable Travel Tales' with you all. Stay tuned 🔥😏
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In episode 10, Jaclyn Yost and Dr. Kelly Cerialo talk to John Kluge, co-founder of Thistlerock Mead Company – a net-zero mission driven mead and honey company. In this episode, John talks about Charlottesville as a destination, agritourism in Southern Virginia, and the path towards becoming the first net-zero meadery in the nation.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Additional links:
https://www.route231.com/
https://www.thistlerockmead.com/
https://www.lubanziwines.com/
https://www.stolpmanvineyards.com/Wine/La-Cuadrilla
To connect:
https://www.thistlerockmead.com/
https://www.instagram.com/thistlerockmead/
https://twitter.com/thistlerockmead
In episode 9, Weylin Ryan joins Dr. Kelly Cerialo and Jaclyn Yost to discuss his key role of engaging with the local community, as well as his approach to creating and implementing new sustainable tourism and destination management programs for La Plata County through his work at Visit Durango.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Speaker Bio:
Weylin is an advocate for sustainable tourism and the environment. Raised in Durango, Colorado, he developed a deep appreciation for his surroundings from a young age, leading to him becoming an Eagle Scout and working as a raft guide. He saw firsthand the positive and negative impacts of increasing tourism on his local environment.
He works for Visit Durango as Sustainability & Policy Manager, using his Masters of Sustainable Tourism from the University of Arizona to assess visitor impact on La Plata County, Colorado. Additionally, he volunteers with The Sustainability Alliance of Southwest Colorado (SASCO) and is co-authoring a book series about U.N Sustainable Development Goals. He is a certified Expert in Continual Improvement for Social Responsibility (CISR).
When not working or volunteering, Weylin lives in Durango with his wife and son, whom he encourages to learn from nature through outdoor activities.
Additional links:
https://www.citizenlab.co/
https://www.durango.org/
https://kumu.io/
Six Sigma Stakeholder Analysis: Sihttps://abeuk.online/sites/default/files/files/6USSR_Article_1.pdf
To connect with Roni:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/weylinryan/
Email: weylin@durango.org
In episode 8, Dr. Kelly Cerialo and Jaclyn Yost interview Roni Weiss, Executive Director of Travel Unity, on inclusivity in travel and how Roni is working to facilitate connections in a diverse world.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Speaker Bio:
Roni Weiss is the Executive Director of Travel Unity, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit focused on increasing diversity in the world of travel through individual and community empowerment.
Roni was born in Long Island, New York and grew up in Snohomish County, Washington, north of Seattle.
At the age of 10, Roni began attending Edmonds Community College (now Edmonds College), receiving his Associate’s of Arts and Science with Honors at the age of 12. He graduated from Lynnwood High School at the age of 15, then attended the University of Washington, receiving double Bachelor’s of Arts degrees in Drama and English at the age of 18.
Through years of world travels, Roni visited 70+ countries, including every country in Europe, six of seven continents, and taught English in Italy, France, Taiwan, and Chile, both to youth and professionals.
In 2011, Roni founded RW Social, a marketing and consulting company for the travel industry and nonprofits. From 2011 to 2016, Roni worked with Africa Travel Association (now Africa Tourism Association), assisting with and speaking at ATA’s events in NYC, DC, and multiple African countries.
In 2013, RW Social launched the New York Travel Festival, an event focused on innovation and sustainability in the world of travel, which served as the genesis for Travel Unity, where he now serves as Executive Director.
Roni lives in Westchester County, NY with his partner, Lauren, and their four children.
Additional links:
https://travelunity.org/
DEI Standards: https://travelunity.org/standards/
To connect with Roni:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/roniweiss/
Email: roni@travelunity.org
In episode 7, Catherine Germier-Hamel, Sustainable Tourism Development and Marketing Consultant, joins Jaclyn Yost and Dr. Kelly Cerialo to discuss her roles with Destination Mekong, Herost, and Millennium Destinations. As an impact entrepreneur and Eco-CEO, Catherine sheds light on the importance of utilizing tourism as a force for good and the need for destinations to include sustainability in their tourism development plans.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Speaker Bio:
For over 25 years, Catherine Germier-Hamel has built an international career dedicated to sustainable global and local development in a variety of sectors including tourism, hospitality, leisure and environmental utilities -water, sanitation, waste. After working for 9 years in a subsidiary of Suez group offering consulting and technical assistance for environmental utilities management in developing and emerging countries, particularly in Africa and Latin America, she decided to embrace a career in sustainable tourism.
In 2005, Catherine started a new life in South Korea where she creates the initiative Wine & Women Korea and promotes wine and sustainable wine tourism then serves as F&B Marketing Manager at Novotel Gangnam hotel (2007-2008). From 2008 to 2013), she joins the UNWTO ST-EP (Sustainable Tourism for Eliminating Poverty) Foundation as Director of Global Programs & Sustainable Tourism Consultant before becoming an independent Consultant and Trainer in 2014.
In 2016, she incorporated Millennium Destinations in Seoul, as an impact company providing consulting services and innovative solutions to small businesses and organizations of the travel, hospitality and leisure sectors for their sustainable tourism development and marketing. In 2019, she co-founded Herost, an impact platform designed as an online travel guide and toolkit promoting sustainable, community-driven travel places, experiences, and practices. Since 2020, she has acted as the CEO of Herost. In 2021, Catherine was appointed CEO of Destination Mekong, a private-sector-led DMO aimed at championing the Greater Mekong Sub-region as a sustainable tourism destination creating value for all. Catherine holds a Master's degree in Business Administration and Management from Neoma Business School(1992), and a post-degree in Sustainable Tourism Development from University Paris Nanterre(2004).
To connect with Catherine:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cgermierhamel/
Additional links:
Destination Mekong: www.destinationmekong.com
Herost: www.herost.org
Millennium Destinations: https://www.millennium-destinations.com/
In episode 6, Dr. Kelly Cerialo and Jaclyn Yost are joined by Mona Lewicka, Director of Business Development at The Transformational Travel Council. Tune in to hear more about the TTC and its community, as well as Mona’s perspective on the transformative power of conscious, adventure travel, and regenerative approach in her personal and professional worlds.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Speaker Bio:
After 15 years of living on the road (privileged enough to have traveled unassisted and out of curiosity to over 80 countries when so many people are doing it because simply, they have no other choice), intertwined with work at numerous international projects and organizations, including my country’s Foreign Office, a couple of NGOs, and high-end tourism associations, I feel I might have experienced some of the world’s extremes – both geographical and societal. All those, and other more or less profound, or even spiritual life experiences, made me come to a strong realization that people’s nature is innately good and that tourism can be a suitable vehicle for social, economic, and environmental transformation like few industries can. It all eventually brought me to the Transformational Travel Council, which I joined as a first volunteer back in 2018 to support Jake Haupert in his big, yet considered ‘woo woo’ back then, idea! Personally, I am a rock-climbing enthusiast and vulnerability advocate, who opted for depth over distance.
To connect with Mona:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/monika-lewicka-57a428160/
https://www.transformational.travel/
mona@transformational.travel
Additional links:
https://www.transformational.travel/ttd
https://www.transformational.travel/journal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B68Rw6GGoIk
https://school.transformational.travel/courses/category/live-workshops
https://www.transformational.travel/ally-benefits
In episode 5, Chloe King, PhD Candidate at the University of Cambridge and Director of Conservation at Solimar International, joins Dr. Kelly Cerialo and Jaclyn Yost to discuss her work and research at the nexus of conservation, climate change, and tourism. Listen now to learn more about the global projects that Chloe works on and how she is seeking practical solutions for shifting towards a regenerative economy that values people and nature above profit.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Speaker Bio:
Chloe King is a marine conservationist, social scientist, and sustainable tourism researcher and consultant, with experience leading conservation and development projects in over a dozen destinations globally. As a PADI Divemaster, Chloe both worked in the marine tourism industry and led research projects in Indonesia and Timor-Leste as a Boren Scholar, Projects for Peace Fellow, and Fulbright Scholar, gaining fluency in Bahasa Indonesia while engaging with coastal communities across the archipelago. As the Director of Conservation & Community Development for Solimar International, she has worked on numerous USAID-funded projects to utilize tourism as a catalyst to achieve sustainable development objectives, including establishing a thriving DMO in Timor-Leste; managing the implementation of a $1 million USAID project in the Sundarbans Reserve Forest of Bangladesh; leading private sector engagement in climate adaptation in the Maldives; and leading the COVID-19 recovery strategy for the government of Georgia.
Chloe holds a BA in International Affairs from the George Washington University, an MSc in Marine Systems and Policy from the University of Edinburgh, and an MPhil in Conservation Leadership from the University of Cambridge as a Marshall Scholar. She is currently a PhD candidate at the University of Cambridge, working with government and community stakeholders of the Galápagos Islands to create their COVID-19 tourism recovery strategy and align the economy with the UN Sustainable Development Goals.
To connect with Chloe:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloeking313/
https://twitter.com/chloeking313
c.king@solimarinternational.com
Links to Chloe’s Work:
“Climate Action through Regeneration: Unlocking the Power of Communities and Nature through Tourism” published by Regenerative Travel (June 2022). https://bit.ly/3Q3T4Qx
“Reimagining Resilience: Covid-19 and Marine Tourism in Indonesia” published in Current Issues in Tourism (January 2021). https://doi.org/10.1080/13683500.2021.1873920
“Marine Reserves and Resilience in the Era of COVID-19” published in Journal of Marine Policy (May 2022). https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2022.105093
“Research Shows High End Tourism in Indonesia Fails to Empower Local People During Covid-19 Pandemic” published in The Conversation (May 2021) https://theconversation.com/research-shows-high-end-tourism-in-indonesia-fails-to-empower-local-people-during-covid-19-pandemic-157422
In episode 4, Tara Busch, founder of Conscious Travel Collective, joins co-hosts Jaclyn Yost and Dr. Kelly Cerialo to discuss how her travel company is assisting small/private groups to travel more sustainably. Tune in to learn more about Tara’s journey, her vision for the tourism industry, and her advice on how to incorporate more conscious decisions in all of our travels.
p.s. – despite the name of the podcast, you are all very welcome here.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Speaker Bio:
Tara is the founder of Conscious Travel Collective, the sustainable travel company specializing in small group and tailored private trips. Tara’s strongly held belief is it’s the human connections and moments of self-discovery that are the most valuable gifts of travel. Her mission in leading Conscious Travel Collective is to utilize the opportunity of travel to illuminate how travelers can not only have a more meaningful experience with the places they visit, but to offer new awareness on issues that harm destinations, and how to better global stewards.
Since its launch in 2022, Tara and her team have worked to champion ethical business practices, and pay equity, with each trip designed for an average of 20 touchpoints, through exclusively direct local partnerships. Tara holds a certificate in Sustainable Tourism Management from George Washington University. Tara also contributes time to RISE Travel Institute, where she’s volunteered since shortly after they launched in 2020. When she is not on the road, she loves coming home to Brooklyn, New York. You can find her working (or sometimes napping) at her local park, never without headphones to take in a podcast or audio book, and being in love with her city!
About Conscious Travel Collective
Conscious Travel Collective is a travel company specializing in all-inclusive small group and tailored private trips for travelers seeking immersive and authentic experiences in vibrant destinations. The company proudly operates as a wholesaler championing ethical business practices around sustainability and pay equity with each trip spanning an average of 20 touchpoints with local partners. Since its launch in 2022, the woman-founded business is on a mission to foster a more conscious and compassionate world through experiential travel. Conscious Travel Collective currently offers curated trips to Peru, Oaxaca (Mexico), and Vermont (USA) with more destinations to follow.
To learn more, visit:
https://www.conscioustravelcollective.com/
https://www.instagram.com/conscioustravelcollective/
https://www.facebook.com/ConsciousTravelCollective/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/conscioustravelcollective/about/
In episode 3, Jaclyn Yost and Dr. Kelly Cerialo interview Dr. Xavier Font, Professor at University of Surrey. As a specialist in, responsible tourism marketing, sustainability certification, sustainable supply chain management, and training for sustainable change, listen to learn more about his views on responsible marketing and greenwashing within the tourism space.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Speaker Bio:
Dr. Xavier Font is professor of Sustainability Marketing at the University of Surrey, and Professor II at the University of the Arctic in Norway. He researches and develops methods of sustainable tourism production and consumption. He has published widely about sustainable tourism certification, and has consulted on sustainable product development, marketing and communication currently serving as advisor in Prince Harry's Travalyst coalition of Booking.com, Tripadvisor, Google, Expedia, Skyscanner, Visa and Trip. He has conducted over 150 courses for more than 5,000 businesses on how to market and communicate sustainability. He is currently the Principal Investigator for the University of Surrey for the €23m Interreg project Experience to develop low season sustainable tourism visitor experiences in the UK and France.
In episode 2, Jaclyn Yost and Dr. Kelly Cerialo sit down with Nina Boys to learn more about how Nina got into the sustainable travel industry, the work she does today, and what sustainable tourism means to her.
p.s. – despite the name of the podcast, you are all very welcome here.
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Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Speaker Bio:
Nina Boys is Vice President of Sustainability for Beyond Green Travel and PTG Consulting. In this role, she conducts hotel sustainability audits, oversees sustainable tourism development and destination stewardship projects, and works with clients to create strategic plans and craft messaging that embraces sustainability best practices and ensures impact in action. She also serves as an advisor on brand standards for Beyond Green, a global portfolio of curated hotels, lodges and resorts that represent sustainable tourism leadership.
With a background in hospitality management, a bachelor’s degree in Media, Culture & Communications, and a master’s degree in Sustainable Tourism Destination Management, Nina has helped travel companies, hotels, and destinations around the world establish best practices in conservation, community engagement, and environmentally friendly practices.
Bilingual in English and Spanish, Nina has also held roles as General Manager and F&B Director for top luxury properties in Latin America where she worked to improve and integrate sustainable tourism practices into the guest experience. Nina is also an accomplished travel writer and photographer with a keen interest in food culture who has been published in publications including National Geographic, Virtuoso Traveler, Condé Nast Traveler, and The Huffington Post.
In this episode of 'You're (Not) Welcome Here' by ecomadic, learn more about co-hosts Jaclyn Yost and Dr. Kelly Cerialo, their journey into the industry, and their views on sustainable tourism.
p.s. – despite the name of the podcast, you are all very welcome here.
Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia
Welcome to ecomadic's podcast – 'You're (Not) Welcome Here', co-hosted by Jaclyn Yost (founder of ecomadic) and Dr. Kelly Cerialo!
In this podcast, we'll be diving into the world of sustainable tourism, interviewing tourism thought leaders, destination marketing organizations, and responsible businesses.
Join us as we explore the ins and outs of sustainable travel and discover new ways to make a positive impact on the world. 🎤🪩
For more information, follow along our journey:
https://www.ecomadic.com/
https://www.yourenotwelcomeherepodcast.com/
https://www.instagram.com/ecomadic/
https://www.tiktok.com/@ecomadictravel
Intro Song Credit: Jesus of Babylon - Yalla Arabia