Thinking Out Loud: Recent Episodes

Nathan Rittenhouse & Cameron McAllister

For those interested in thoughtful cultural analysis without all the apocalyptic forecasts, Thinking Out Loud is a podcast about current events and Christian hope. Hosted by Nathan Rittenhouse and Cameron McAllister, co-founders of Thinking Out Loud, a ministry that seeks to bridge the gap between discipleship and apologetics, this is a show that seeks to connect the dots on the subject of Christian realism.

In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron tackle the complex and emotionally charged topic of martyrdom, using the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk as a lens to examine how Christians should think about suffering, political identity, and gospel witness. Drawing from theological tradition and historical parallels like Dietrich Bonhoeffer, they explore three possible frameworks for understanding Kirk's death—Christian martyr, political martyr, or a hybrid of both. With careful attention to language, biblical definitions, and the cultural moment, this deep-dive invites Christians to move beyond knee-jerk reactions and reflect theologically on the meaning of true sacrifice and public faith. Whether you’re wrestling with the term “martyr” in light of recent events or seeking clarity in how Christians engage with political power, this episode offers nuanced, faithful insight grounded in Scripture and church history. Perfect for believers seeking serious Christian analysis of current events, especially where faith and politics intersect.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron unpack the recent conversation between Ross Douthat and Ezra Klein, diving deep into the question: What is the guiding story of progressive politics today? With insight, wit, and theological reflection, they explore the cultural crisis of meaning, the limits of techno-utopianism, and why modern narratives—both secular and spiritual—are failing to satisfy the human soul. Drawing from Joan Didion, Charles Taylor, and American pop culture, they challenge Christians to consider how the gospel offers a fuller, more coherent vision of life, purpose, and hope. If you're a believer wrestling with the intersection of faith, politics, and culture, this thoughtful analysis will sharpen your mind and deepen your understanding of the stories shaping our time.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron respond to critiques that their political and cultural commentary lacks conviction, clarifying their distinctly Christian approach to public discourse. Drawing on virtue ethics, New Testament theology, and the wisdom of thinkers like James Davison Hunter, they explore why a posture of humility, nuance, and spiritual discernment is not weakness—but faithfulness. With cultural distrust rising and Christians worldwide grappling with political polarization, Nathan and Cameron ask: Are we living in Israel or Babylon? What does it mean to think Christianly in an age of fear, outrage, and existential threats? This episode offers thoughtful, theologically rich insight for believers seeking to navigate the complexities of modern life without compromising the Gospel. Perfect for Christians craving depth, nuance, and Christ-centered clarity in today’s chaotic world.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan Rittenhouse is joined by Pastor Mike Gehry of Communitas Church to explore the rising interest in Christianity—particularly among young adults—and the theological challenges and opportunities that come with it. Drawing from their seminary days and Mike’s expertise in spiritual formation and direction, Nathan and Mike engage in a rich, biblically grounded discussion about pragmatic conversions, cultural Christianity, spiritual disciplines, and the dangers of reducing the Gospel to mere self-help. With insights into the tension between tradition and modern evangelicalism, this episode offers deep encouragement for Christians who crave substance, nuance, and clarity in their walk with Christ. Whether you're a pastor, church leader, or just someone seeking authentic spiritual growth, this conversation will challenge and inspire you to pursue Christlikeness through the power of the Holy Spirit, within the life of the Church, and grounded in Scripture.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron tackle one of the most urgent and divisive issues in modern culture: free speech. From the shocking killing of Charlie Kirk, to the cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel, to the weaponization of speech by both political sides, this episode offers a Christian theological response to the chaos.

Are both the right and left guilty of using the same oppressive tactics? What does true freedom of speech look like from a biblical and historical perspective? How should Christians navigate public discourse without losing their moral clarity or gospel witness?

If you’re a Christian who craves deep theological discussion, not just recycled partisan talking points, this is for you.

👥 Who it’s for:

Theologically conservative Christians
Christians concerned with culture, politics, and ethics
Pastors, students, and thinkers wanting substance over slogans

📌 Topics discussed:

Free speech vs. hate speech
Political tribalism and hypocrisy
The theology of speech
Historical threats to religious liberty
Responding to Charlie Kirk’s death as Christians
Cancel culture from both sides of the aisle

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron return to the subject of Malcolm Gladwell—this time exploring his recent admission that he spoke dishonestly in a 2022 panel discussion on trans athletes in women’s sports. Drawing connections between Gladwell’s statements, Douglas Murray’s fierce critique, and the broader cultural shift on gender ideology, Nathan and Cameron offer thoughtful, biblically rooted commentary on intellectual courage, cowardice, and the pressure to conform in elite spaces. With a focus on truth, integrity, and the role of the church in discerning the signs of the times, this conversation unpacks the internal contradictions of progressive movements, the resurgence of populist common sense, and what Christians can learn from this moment. Ideal for believers hungry for rich theological engagement with today’s most controversial issues.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron engage in a sober, theologically grounded conversation on the tragic murder of Charlie Kirk—a rising conservative voice, public speaker, and Christian leader. Speaking carefully and pastorally, they explore the emotional and spiritual weight of this moment, discussing the role of political rhetoric, cultural dehumanization, and the influence of evil in a fallen world. With a focus on deep theological reflection rather than reactionary commentary, they offer a framework for Christians wrestling with grief, outrage, and confusion in the wake of this political assassination. If you're a believer looking for more than surface-level takes—and want to process this event through a gospel-centered, biblically faithful lens—this discussion will help you think clearly and Christianly about a moment many are calling paradigm-shifting.DONATE LINK: https://toltogether.com/donate BOOK A SPEAKER: https://toltogether.com/book-a-speakerJOIN TOL CONNECT: https://toltogether.com/tol-connect TOL Connect is an online forum where TOL listeners can continue the conversation begun on the podcast.

Freakonomics Podcast Episode⁠

In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron offer a thought-provoking theological response to Episode 644 of the Freakonomics podcast, "Has America Lost Its Appetite for the Common Good?"—featuring controversial political theorist Patrick Deneen. With their signature blend of faith, philosophy, and cultural analysis, Nathan and Cameron explore Deneen’s critique of liberalism, the spiritual vacuum in Western political life, and the implications of his ideas for Christians navigating a fractured public square. From Why Liberalism Failed to Regime Change, Deneen's work prompts timely questions: Can a pluralistic society truly share a common good without shared faith? How should Christians think about post-liberalism, populism, and the loss of moral consensus in America? This episode is essential listening for believers seeking rich theological engagement with current events, political theory, and the future of Christian witness in the modern West. Whether you're washing eggs on the farm or commuting to work, join us for a deep dive into faith, politics, and the crumbling foundations of our common life.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive into a rich theological conversation on how our view of history shapes our understanding of human nature—and vice versa. Drawing from classical thinkers like Aristotle, Machiavelli, and Madison, as well as the biblical narrative, they challenge the modern assumption that progress means moral advancement. Is human nature evolving, or are we just repeating ancient patterns with new tools? And how should Christians think about Scripture, history, and the trajectory of our culture in a time of increasing technological disillusionment? This episode is a must-watch for Christians interested in deep theological reflection, cultural analysis, and how the Christian worldview uniquely offers a coherent vision of history, hope, and human identity.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into the question: Have Christians abandoned truth in an age of conspiracy theories, curated realities, and alternative facts? With clarity and theological depth, they explore how personal preference, algorithm-driven information bubbles, and cultural relativism are shaping the way believers engage with truth today. Drawing from Scripture, church history, and contemporary issues—from astrology to AI, from psilocybin to politics—they ask whether Christians are applying the same rigorous standards of coherence, correspondence, and livability to all their beliefs—or just some. This conversation challenges viewers to consider how truth is defined, defended, and lived out in a post-truth culture, and why reclaiming a biblically grounded understanding of reality is more urgent than ever. Perfect for Christians seeking robust theological reflection on culture, worldview, and current events.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into the complex and controversial legacy of Dr. James Dobson, following news of his recent passing. Best known for founding Focus on the Family, Dobson shaped evangelical family culture for decades through radio, books, and discipleship materials like Adventures in Odyssey and McGee and Me. But his legacy is far from one-dimensional. Nathan and Cameron unpack Dobson's theological influence, his disciplinary advice, and his increasingly political stance—from early cultural engagement to vocal support for Donald Trump. This nuanced conversation explores how Dobson became both a hero of Christian family values and a villain in the eyes of many exvangelicals. For Christians seeking serious theological reflection on how faith intersects with politics, parenting, and cultural engagement, this is a must-listen. Join Nathan and Cameron as they wrestle with Dobson’s impact—both the good and the harmful—and what it means for the Church moving forward.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan Rittenhouse and Stuart McAllister dive into a rich theological discussion sparked by a listener’s question: What are the foundational books every thinking Christian should engage with to understand today’s cultural, philosophical, and sociological landscape? Stuart, a globally respected Christian thinker and apologist, shares a curated list of essential texts—from Modern Times by Paul Johnson to The Cross of Christ by John Stott and The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis. Together, Nathan and Stuart explore how deep Christian theology, classical philosophy, and cultural analysis intersect to equip believers to live faithfully in a complex, postmodern world. This episode is a must-listen for Christians hungry for intellectually rigorous, gospel-centered engagement with the issues shaping our time.

Modern Times by Paul Johnson.
The Passion of the Western Mind by Richard Tarnas.
The Cross of Christ by John Stott.
No god but God by Os Guinness and John Seel.
The One, the Three, and the Many by Colin Gunton.
The Way of the Modern world by Craig Gay.
The Abolition of man by C.S. Lewis.
The Universe Next Door by James Sire.
When God became King by N. T. Wright.
The Gospel in a Pluralistic Society by Leslie Newbigin.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into That Hideous Strength, the final and most complex book of C.S. Lewis's Ransom Trilogy. Rather than offering a typical plot summary, they explore the prophetic theological themes that Lewis weaves into this dystopian narrative—from technocratic utopianism and demonic deception to the seduction of power and the spiritual cost of compromise. Originally written in 1945, this novel’s relevance to the challenges Christians face in 2025 is both unsettling and illuminating. Nathan and Cameron connect Lewis’s fiction to The Abolition of Man, The Inner Ring, and present-day issues like AI, media manipulation, transhumanism, and the loss of transcendence in modern culture. Perfect for Christians seeking rich theological reflection on current events, this conversation challenges believers to slow down, cultivate virtue, and recover a vision of reality where spirit precedes matter and truth is not up for negotiation.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into the widely accepted cultural narrative that unbelief is the default human position. Drawing from a landmark Oxford University study on the natural inclination toward belief in the supernatural, they challenge the modern myth that religion is merely a primitive attempt at science. Together, they explore the philosophical and theological implications of studies suggesting that children are predisposed to believe in God or the afterlife, critique the legacy of thinkers like Auguste Comte and J.G. Frazier, and examine the intellectual assumptions behind secularism, skepticism, and the myth of progress. This conversation is a must-watch for Christians seeking thoughtful, intelligent engagement with the roots of belief, the burden of proof, and how to respond to contemporary atheistic claims with grace and intellectual rigor.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into a theologically rich conversation sparked by a dialogue between Bishop Robert Barron and N.T. Wright on how to read the Bible. With Bible sales surging across North America, many Christians are picking up Scripture for the first time—or returning with fresh eyes—and asking: "Where do I begin?" Nathan and Cameron explore the unavoidable role of tradition, community, and the Holy Spirit in biblical interpretation. They challenge hyper-individualistic readings common in Western Christianity and unpack the theological implications of relying on YouTube influencers, historical context, or denominational frameworks as our modern-day '42 guides into the jungle' of Scripture. This is a must-listen for thoughtful believers who want to grow in biblical literacy, wrestle with how culture shapes their faith, and reflect on what it means to read the Bible faithfully in today’s world.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron engage in a deep theological and philosophical conversation exploring one of the most pressing questions of our time: What is the good life? As Christians navigating a culture marked by meaninglessness, hyper-individualism, and spiritual confusion, they examine how ancient wisdom—from Solomon to Marcus Aurelius—intersects with modern challenges like social isolation, gym culture, and the back-to-the-land movement. With references to Stoicism, Pierre Hadot, Paul’s letter to the Philippians, and the failures of secular philosophy to offer purpose, this episode invites believers into a rich, gospel-centered reflection on virtue, identity, and true human flourishing. If you're a Christian hungry for meaningful cultural engagement and deep theological discussion.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into the ethics of AI, language, and what it means to be human in a rapidly advancing technological world. Starting with a provocative question—should Christians use slurs like "clanker" toward robots or AI?—they explore how our language toward machines reflects deeper theological and moral concerns. What begins as a discussion on humor and frustration with technology evolves into a rich conversation about the image of God (Imago Dei), the nature of animals, the soul, and the ethical dangers of humanizing machines. Drawing on philosophy, scripture, and real-world examples, they challenge Christians to think critically about how we engage with artificial intelligence and the impact it has on our character. This episode is essential listening for believers seeking thoughtful, theological reflection on the future of humanity, virtue ethics, and digital culture. Subscribe for more intelligent Christian conversations on tech, ethics, and culture.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive into the recent news of Ozzy Osbourne’s death, using it as a springboard for a deep theological and cultural conversation that explores the intersections of Christianity, heavy metal, and the spiritual undercurrents of modern music. With Cameron leading the way as a lifelong metalhead, the discussion unpacks Black Sabbath’s occult themes, the infamous "devil’s interval," and how the genre both reflects and distorts spiritual hunger. The episode challenges believers to wrestle with cultural gray areas, discern the difference between provocation and genuine spiritual engagement, and consider how even the darkest corners of pop culture are haunted by Christian truth. Perfect for Christians seeking meaningful dialogue on theology, culture, and the spiritual impact of art.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron dive into a rich theological reflection on spiritual preparedness in a chaotic world—using the metaphor of a flat spare tire to explore what it means to be caught off guard by life’s inevitable crises. Drawing from Scripture, cultural trends, and the wisdom of thinkers like Kierkegaard and Eugene Peterson, they challenge modern Christians to consider the cost of distraction, emotional exhaustion, and constant busyness. Are we cultivating the spiritual depth and contemplative practices necessary to face suffering, loss, aging, and the deeper questions of faith? This episode speaks directly to believers looking for thoughtful, biblically grounded conversation about how to live wisely and intentionally in a noisy, demanding culture. If you’re a Christian seeking to grow in wisdom, spiritual resilience, and theological depth, this conversation is for you. Subscribe now and join the discussion.

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In this deeply engaging and theologically rich episode, we're going to be listening to a talk that Cameron gave at Perimeter Presbyterian Church in Alpharetta, Georgia. The title of the talk is Listening to the Wider Culture. This talk looks at and analyzes the cultural assumptions around love, freedom, and happiness. Cameron invites Christians into a thoughtful exploration of how to engage a culture increasingly driven by questions of meaning, identity, and loneliness. Drawing on over 15 years of experience in apologetics, Cameron challenges the modern church to reimagine apologetics not just as formal debate or academic discourse, but as a deeply relational and everyday expression of the credibility of Jesus Christ. He addresses the cultural shifts from evidence to existential concerns, unpacks the modern misunderstandings of love, freedom, and happiness, and equips believers to respond with clarity, humility, and hope. Ideal for Christians seeking serious theological reflection on current events, this video offers practical wisdom for defending the faith in a way that is both faithful and culturally aware.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron explore the growing weariness many Christians feel toward today's nonstop news cycle—from the emptiness of sensational headlines to the deeper cultural and spiritual implications of media overload. They reflect on why stories that once captivated now seem meaningless, and why skepticism toward both the news and its messengers is rising. The conversation then turns to the sobering allegations surrounding Michael Tate, former member of DC Talk and the Newsboys, prompting a hard but necessary theological reflection on celebrity culture within the Church, moral integrity, and the long-term impact of scandal on Christian witness. With thoughtful nuance, Nathan and Cameron bring a gospel-centered perspective to difficult questions about fame, faith, and how Christians should engage a broken culture without losing hope. Key Topics:

Michael Tate Scandal Breakdown
Newsboys Controversy Explained
DC Talk’s Fall from Grace
Justin Bieber Christian Journey Drama
Christian Music Scandals Revealed
Nathan & Cameron’s Roles in Scandals
Ravi Zacharias Fallout
Coldplay CEO Scandal Exposed
Coldplay Kiss Cam Drama
Tech CEO Scandal in Music
Faith vs Fame in Christian Culture

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Join Nathan Rittenhouse and Karl "KJ" Johnson of the C.S. Lewis Institute for a powerful theological discussion on discipleship, virtue, and spiritual renewal in today's culture.

In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and KJ explore the growing hunger among Christians for more than entertainment or self-help—diving into the often-ignored middle ground of spiritual formation, holiness, and Christlike transformation. Drawing from decades of experience, KJ unpacks the importance of mentorship, community, and spiritual disciplines, while confronting the challenges of modern Christian life. This is a must-watch for believers seeking serious, biblically grounded conversation on how to live faithfully in an age of distraction, isolation, and consumerism. Ideal for mature Christians, pastors, and seekers of deep Christian discipleship.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron unpack the modern obsession with transhumanism, biohacking, and human optimization in light of Christian theology. Drawing on insights from Miroslav Volf and Renaissance thinker Pico della Mirandola, they explore why simply “being human” often feels insufficient in a secular age shaped by practical atheism. From AI hype to post-human ambitions, the discussion contrasts superficial technological efficiency with the biblical vision of fullness, meaning, and embodied life. For Christians wrestling with cultural trends that promise more control but deliver less soul, this is a timely conversation on what it truly means to be made in the image of God.

TOPICSChristian view on transhumanism

theology of being human

biohacking and Christianity

Practical atheism in culture

Christian response to AI

image of God theology

posthumanism and faith

Christian critique of efficiency culture

fullness of life in Christ

Christian philosophy on modern tech

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron tackle the popular atheist claim that the existence of God is an "extraordinary claim" requiring extraordinary evidence—flipping the script by examining the hidden assumptions and metaphysical commitments of skeptics themselves. Drawing on insights from thinkers like Richard Swinburne and Charles Taylor, they unpack why belief in an intelligible universe, laws of logic, and human consciousness are themselves extraordinary—and why secular worldviews often rest on faith-like assumptions. Perfect for Christians seeking a deeper, intellectually rigorous faith, this conversation explores how to respond to modern skepticism with confidence, nuance, and historical awareness. Whether you're engaging with "New Atheism" online or wrestling with tough questions about science, faith, and meaning, this is a must-watch for anyone serious about theology and cultural engagement.

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In this episode, Nathan and Cameron speak as fathers and Christian thinkers about the deeper meaning behind Faith Kipyegon’s historic attempt to become the first woman to run a sub-four-minute mile. Drawing from Scripture, physiology, and personal experience, they explore the God-given distinctions between men and women—how those differences should be honored, not erased—and why modern culture’s attempts to redefine equality often create confusion rather than clarity. Through the lens of sports, biology, and fatherhood, they reflect on how Christians can disciple their daughters (and sons) to embrace womanhood and manhood as gifts, not liabilities. With a thoughtful balance of theology and practicality, this conversation is for anyone passionate about raising the next generation with biblical clarity in a world of blurred gender lines. Whether you're a parent, pastor, teacher, or mentor, this is a rich, timely dialogue for those seeking gospel-shaped wisdom in today’s cultural climate.

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Christian perspective on gender roles
biblical manhood and womanhood
theology of gender differences
Christian fathers and daughters
raising godly daughters
Christian response to feminism
biological differences men and women
gospel-centered parenting
Christian worldview on sports and gender
discipleship for Christian fathers
femininity in biblical perspective
manhood and womanhood in Christ
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Christian analysis of current events

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron engage in a thoughtful, theologically grounded discussion on the changing political and cultural landscape in America, using the recent New York City mayoral primary as a springboard. They reflect on the growing appeal of socialism and even communism among younger voters, and explore why traditional capitalist and conservative frameworks are increasingly being rejected. Rather than dismissing these trends as youthful ignorance, Nathan and Cameron dig deeper—analyzing the plausibility structures, economic realities, and cultural narratives shaping a generation that feels disconnected from ownership, community, and purpose. For Christians seeking a deeper understanding of how theology intersects with politics, freedom, and societal change, this conversation offers wisdom, nuance, and a much-needed reminder of where our ultimate hope must lie.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron respond to viral claims that Younghoon Kim—allegedly the individual with the highest IQ ever recorded—is a Christian. While some in the apologetics community tout this as a cultural win, Nathan and Cameron explore whether raw intelligence should be used to validate the Christian faith. They dig into the distinction between IQ and biblical wisdom, the long-standing intellectual tradition of Christianity, and the dangers of seeking external validation from secular standards. The hosts challenge the assumption that faith needs elite endorsement, arguing that wisdom, not intelligence, is the true biblical metric of value. From Augustine and Aquinas to modern skeptics and cultural pressures, this conversation is a thoughtful critique of how Christians engage with public narratives about intellect and belief. Perfect for believers seeking deep, nuanced theological reflection on trending news and apologetics.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan Rittenhouse and Cameron McAllister explore the noticeable shift in cultural momentum surrounding Pride Month 2025. Has society grown weary of identity politics and expressive individualism? Is there a deeper hunger for meaning—one that shallow slogans and corporate branding can’t satisfy? With thoughtful Christian analysis, they unpack why Pride messaging feels quieter this year, the ideological fractures within the LGBTQIA+ movement, and how historic Christian symbols like the rainbow are being reclaimed. If you're a believer seeking intelligent, biblically grounded discussion on Pride Month, cultural fatigue, and the renewal of Christian witness in the public square, this conversation is for you.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Thinking Out Loud, Cameron and Nathan explore the unsettling rise of religious extremism in North America—particularly among evangelicals—and the tragic case of Vance Luther Bolter. They unpack how Christian language and imagery can be dangerously distorted to serve political or personal ideologies, drawing a sharp contrast between authentic discipleship and the misuse of faith as a tool for violence. With references to scripture, personal stories, and current events, this conversation challenges believers to reflect on political idolatry, dehumanizing rhetoric, and the moral consequences of unchecked speech. If you're a Christian hungry for deep theological insight and honest engagement with today’s most pressing cultural issues, this episode will speak directly to you.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Cameron and Nathan wade into the chaos of current global events—from missile strikes in Iran to plane crashes in India—and ask a critical theological question: how should Christians respond to a world that feels like it’s unraveling? Rather than offering false certainty or prophetic guesswork, they reflect on the emotional and spiritual toll of nonstop news and the dangers of distraction, drawing from Scripture, C.S. Lewis’s Screwtape Letters, and their own lived experiences. This episode challenges believers to reclaim attention, prioritize the local over the global, and discern the difference between what's simply a problem and what is your problem. For Christians seeking thoughtful, biblically grounded dialogue in a noisy world, this conversation offers clarity, conviction, and grace.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Cameron and Nathan explore the tension between Christian fundamentalism and faithful scholarship, using the controversy around resurrection expert Mike Licona as a case study. As Licona faces accusations of “caving to secularism” for his analysis of gospel differences through ancient literary conventions, the hosts ask: does questioning tradition mean abandoning truth? This conversation unpacks how fundamentalism’s demand for absolute certainty often silences honest inquiry and mistakes nuance for compromise. With insights from George Marsden, Craig Keener, and D.A. Carson, Cameron and Nathan examine the evangelical tendency to draw rigid lines of who’s “in” or “out,” and how that impulse may reflect fear more than faith. For Christians wrestling with deconstruction, biblical interpretation, and the future of evangelical witness, this episode offers a compelling call to humble confidence, theological depth, and gospel-centered curiosity.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, we explore the rising cultural obsession with efficiency and its spiritual and relational costs. From AI-generated sermon illustrations to time-saving hacks like slip-on shoes and 1.5x video speeds, we ask: is this pursuit of productivity actually helping us live well—or slowly reshaping our souls? As Christians called to seek first the Kingdom of God, how do we discern what should be optimized and what should remain intentionally inefficient, sacred, and human? Join us for a thought-provoking theological conversation on rest, relationships, and resisting the lie that faster is always better. If you’re a believer wrestling with how to live faithfully in a high-speed digital age, this discussion is for you.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Cameron and Nathan unpack the recent conversation between renowned Oxford mathematician and Christian apologist John Lennox and rising skeptic Alex O’Connor (a.k.a. Cosmic Skeptic). While they don’t provide a full play-by-play of the dialogue, they reflect on the tone, posture, and emerging style of apologetics marked by humility, curiosity, and mutual respect. What does it mean for Christians to engage skeptics in a post-new-atheist world—where questions are deeper, and certainty is quieter? Cameron and Nathan explore the significance of Lennox’s decades of faithful intellectual witness, his philosophical and scientific insight, and why this conversation may signal a more fruitful era for theological discourse. For Christians seeking deep, thoughtful engagement with faith, reason, and today’s cultural questions, this episode offers a refreshing perspective.

Topics discussed:Collapse of combative apologetics

Public intellectuals and faith

Epistemic humility in religious discourse

Persuasion vs performance in debates

Rhetoric in religious conversations

The future of Christian persuasion

Christianity and postmodern dialogue

Philosophy of religion

Lessons from Oxford debates on faith

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In this special episode of Thinking Out Loud, Christian apologist Cameron responds to comments on his viral TikTok video—a video that generated over 3,000 comments and 200,000+ views. The central question? "Why does God seem hidden?"

Cameron unpacks this profound topic using insights from Blaise Pascal, the book of Hebrews, and centuries of Christian theology. He addresses the skeptical assumptions behind the objections and challenges the idea that God should prove Himself on human terms. Rather than offering simplistic answers, the episode explores how faith, divine revelation, and the incarnation intersect with real doubt.This is a must-watch for anyone interested in serious Christian apologetics, thoughtful theological reflection, and honest engagement with modern skepticism.

Key topics:

-The problem of divine hiddenness

-Why God doesn’t always reveal Himself visibly

-Blaise Pascal’s perspective on faith and knowledge of God

-The difference between blind belief and informed faith

-Biblical references on God’s revelation (e.g., the book of Hebrews)

-Skeptical objections and assumptions about God’s existence

-The incarnation as a form of divine revelation

-The limits of demanding proof from God on human terms

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron react to Jordan Peterson’s appearance in the viral Jubilee debate—and things get theologically intense. They unpack where Peterson’s thinking aligns with Christian truth and where it dangerously veers off course. From disordered loves and worship to the meaning of belief, Nathan and Cameron bring biblical clarity and philosophical depth to the table. Along the way, they reference thinkers like Augustine, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, T.S. Eliot, David Foster Wallace, and Tom Holland, making this a must-listen for Christians who care about faith, reason, and the big questions of culture.

Topics Covered:

Is Jordan Peterson a Christian—or just Christian-adjacent?
What is worship, really? Augustine vs. Peterson
Disordered loves and cultural idolatry
Why “aim upward” isn’t the gospel
Peterson’s definition of belief—where it fails
Are atheists borrowing Christian morality? (feat. Tom Holland)
David Foster Wallace, Paul Tillich, and the quest for meaning
Why science can’t give you morality
- Did empathy replace conscience? A naturalist critique
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In this episode, Nathan and Cameroon dive deep into the rising tide of AI in theological education, especially its implications for seminaries, spiritual formation, and the future of pastoral training. Drawing from Cameron Schaefer’s provocative article on Mere Orthodoxy, they discuss how AI may soon outpace traditional online seminary models and why Christian institutions must shift from being sources of information to curators of formation. Join as they explore the irreplaceable value of embodied ministry, human mentorship, and habitual wisdom in the digital age. Is AI a tool, a threat, or a catalyst for rethinking how we form Christian leaders? Listen for robust theological dialogue, real-world applications, and a hopeful vision for a hybrid future. 📚💻🧠🔍

Topics Covered:

AI in higher education & seminaries

The limits of digital discipleship

Spiritual formation vs. information download

Hybrid models of theological training

Pastoral presence in an AI world

The value of embodied wisdom and habits

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron explore the recent DC embassy shooting through a Christian theological lens. Why do people scapegoat others? What drives individuals to violent action in the name of causes they don’t directly represent? Drawing on René Girard’s scapegoat theory, biblical concepts of atonement, and the moral confusion of modern culture, they analyze how this tragedy reveals the deep brokenness in human nature and our desperate attempts at meaning-making. With thoughtful insight and pastoral clarity, Nathan and Cameron reflect on individualism, ideological identity, and the limits of symbolic action. This conversation is essential for Christians seeking a thoughtful and faithful response to complex cultural events.DONATE LINK: https://toltogether.com/donate BOOK A SPEAKER: https://toltogether.com/book-a-speakerJOIN TOL CONNECT: https://toltogether.com/tol-connect TOL Connect is an online forum where TOL listeners can continue the conversation begun on the podcast.🔎 Topics Covered:– DC embassy shooting analysis– René Girard and scapegoat theory– Biblical atonement and collective guilt– Virtue signaling vs. real sacrifice– Individualism and ideology– Human responsibility and sin⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Intro: DC Embassy Shooting Overview01:19 – Scapegoating and Misplaced Guilt02:42 – Collective Blame and Individual Responsibility07:54 – Identity, Solidarity, and Symbolic Action14:23 – A Story of Hyper-Individualism16:49 – Community, Culture, and Perception17:28 – Desperate Acts of Self-Expression21:13 – The Dark Side of Virtue Signaling24:35 – The Tragic Capacity of Human Destruction25:31 – Theology of Sacrifice and Scapegoats26:55 – Biblical Justice vs. Endless Retribution#ThinkingOutLoud #NathanAndCameron #ChristianWorldview #TheologyAndCulture #ScapegoatTheory #RenéGirard #ChristianPodcast #CurrentEvents #BiblicalJustice #FaithAndCulture #ChristianCommentary #Atonement #SymbolicViolence

In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan & Cameron dive into a nuanced theological discussion on Ross Douthat’s latest book Believe, exploring the provocative idea that religion—even in its broadest form—can serve as a legitimate and vital stepping stone toward Christianity. They examine Douthat’s arguments through the lens of current cultural disinterest in organized faith, C.S. Lewis’s concept of “mere Christianity,” and spiritual seekers like Simone Weil and David Foster Wallace. Is structured religion still the best place to begin a sincere search for truth in the modern age? Join them as they wrestle with these questions, challenge each other, and consider whether religion is a crutch, a catalyst, or a compass in a post-Christian world. Perfect for Christians craving thoughtful, biblically grounded commentary on contemporary spiritual issues.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, we dive deep into a disturbing and tragic event—the bombing of a fertility clinic in Palm Springs by a self-proclaimed "pro-mortalist." While grieving the loss of life, we also explore the unsettling philosophical underpinnings of this act, including anti-natalism, pro-mortalism, and the idolization of consent as the highest moral authority. For Christians seeking thoughtful, theologically grounded discussions on current events, this conversation unpacks how modern moral frameworks—rooted in radical autonomy, subjective consent, and distorted views of love and freedom—can lead to logical yet dangerous conclusions. We contrast these ideologies with a biblical worldview, challenging the cultural narrative that human beings are the ultimate moral arbiters. Join us as we confront the implications of being born "without consent" and what it reveals about our cultural moment.DONATE LINK: ⁠https://toltogether.com/donate ⁠BOOK A SPEAKER: ⁠https://toltogether.com/book-a-speaker⁠JOIN TOL CONNECT: ⁠https://toltogether.com/tol-connect ⁠

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, we dive deep into the crisis of attention in the digital age and its profound implications for Christian witness, spiritual formation, and intellectual integrity. Are we losing our ability to think deeply, listen well, and discern truth amidst the noise? Join us as we explore how Sabbath, solitude, intentionality, and community can help reclaim a Christ-centered focus in a world of distraction. With references to Dallas Willard, Joseph Pieper, and the Screwtape Letters, this conversation equips Christians, apologists, and thoughtful believers to pursue meaningful theology, cultural analysis, and spiritual disciplines that resist the algorithm and restore the mind. Perfect for Christians seeking more than hot takes—subscribe for rich theological dialogue on faith, culture, and formation.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, we dive into the morally complex decision by the U.S. to reduce medical aid to Zambia due to systemic government corruption—and ask how Christians should think through such dilemmas. With a focus on ethical reasoning, moral calculus, and Christian theology, Nathan and Cameron explore the spiritual and practical tensions involved in foreign aid, workplace complicity, and the moral responsibilities of believers living in a broken system. What does Scripture say about giving, accountability, and justice? How do we balance compassion with stewardship? Join us for a deep, faith-informed conversation on global corruption, moral math, and Christian responses to injustice in an age of political compromise. If you care about Christian ethics, global missions, and theology applied to real-world events, this episode is for you.

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In this thought-provoking conversation, Cameron and Nathan explore the crucial difference between defending Christianity and being a defensive Christian. Rooted in biblical wisdom and apologetic insight, they challenge believers to stand firm in their faith without fear or insecurity. From tackling common objections to Christianity, to addressing the cultural pressure to stay silent, this episode equips Christians to respond with clarity, humility, and strength. Whether you're engaging skeptics or wrestling with doubts, you'll discover how Christian apologetics isn't about proving God needs us—but about faithfully representing what we believe. Perfect for believers seeking to grow in intellectual discipleship, biblical confidence, and gospel witness.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Cameron and Nathan dive deep into the theological roots of Western love, exposing how today’s culture has redefined love using borrowed Christian language—without the God who gives it meaning. Drawing from philosophers like Simon May and theologians such as N.T. Wright, we challenge the four foundational assumptions about love in today’s world: that it is unconditional, disinterested, all-affirming, and enduring. These ideas, often taken for granted, echo divine attributes that humans simply can't sustain. As we attempt to live them out without God, we end up playing God ourselves—a move that leads not to freedom, but confusion and relational breakdown.Whether it’s the phrase “love is love” or the cultural obsession with affirmation, this discussion unpacks how our post-Christian society has built a fragile theology of love on sand—and what Scripture says we should build instead. This is a must-listen for any Christian thinker, pastor, or layperson wrestling with the cultural narratives of identity, romance, and meaning.

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Simon May – Love: A New Understanding of an Ancient Emotion

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Cameron McAllister and Nathan Rittenhouse perform an intellectual autopsy of the New Atheist movement, reflecting on its cultural rise and current irrelevance. They unpack why arguments from figures like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris no longer resonate—especially in light of Christianity’s enduring philosophical and moral foundations. With references to current debates, including a dismantling of Lawrence Krauss’s secular claims, this episode provides Christians with a robust understanding of how to engage secular critiques with grace and intellectual rigor. Whether you're interested in apologetics, cultural commentary, or the intersection of theology and modern society, this conversation is for you.

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In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan Rittenhouse and Cameron McAllister explore how the globalization of food reflects much deeper cultural and spiritual shifts. From curry on British Airways to food hacks on TikTok, the conversation moves beyond cuisine to consider what we lose—culturally, theologically, and personally—when everything becomes an option and nothing remains rooted.

Is the abundance of choice leading to a loss of identity, tradition, and self-control? And what does a faithful Christian response look like in a world of constant novelty and overstimulation?

Join us for a thoughtful, theological discussion about food, place, globalization, and the formation of Christian character.

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⏱️ Timestamps
00:00 – Intro: Curry on British Airways and British cuisine
00:35 – Food as a reflection of cultural change
01:41 – Global cuisine and the dilution of culinary identity
03:09 – Food hacks, fusion, and cultural blending
05:43 – Overabundance, novelty, and food as entertainment
06:39 – Supply chains and shifting priorities in food sourcing
07:55 – Cultural roots vs. global convenience
10:00 – The erosion of place and cultural distinctiveness
13:36 – What we're really losing in globalization
16:42 – Regional art and placelessness in the modern world
18:50 – The disappearance of family recipes and tradition
20:15 – Modern identity as curated choice
21:03 – Moving forward: Deliberate simplicity and Christian formation

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In this episode Cameron and Nathan reflect on the recent passing of Pope Francis—not from a Catholic perspective, but as Christians engaging in serious theological reflection on a major cultural moment. What does this shift mean for global Christianity? How should Protestants interpret the legacy of Pope Francis and the ideological battle lines within the Catholic Church?We compare responses from First Things (conservative) and Commonweal (progressive), and wrestle with key questions: Is reform or stability the greater need in our age? How do different views of human nature affect theology and culture? And what can we learn about leadership, doctrine, and discipleship from this moment in church history?This conversation is for believers who care deeply about theology, culture, and the future of the global church. Join us as we think theologically about the news and how Christians should engage the world with gospel clarity.

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0:00 – Intro & What We’re Talking About Today

2:20 – Why Protestants Should Care About the Pope

6:45 – The Catholic Church’s Global Influence & Cultural Reach

11:10 – The Legacy of Pope Francis: A Mixed Review

15:35 – First Things vs Commonweal: Two Catholic Responses

21:00 – Reform vs Stability: Which Does the Church Need More?

28:40 – Human Nature, Doctrine & Worldview: Underlying Theological Differences

35:05 – What Can Protestants Learn from This Moment?

42:15 – Final Reflections: Truth, Leadership & the Church’s Future

47:00 – Outro & Where to Find More Content

In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, we unpack a pivotal moment from The Joe Rogan Experience featuring Douglas Murray and Dave Smith, where the limits of authority, experience, and expertise collide. When Murray questions Smith’s qualifications to comment on the Israel conflict — famously asking, “Have you ever been there?” — it sparked a broader discussion on who gets to speak into complex global and moral issues.We explore how podcast platforms, once fringe, have become major cultural authorities — often more influential than legacy media or academic experts. What does this mean for the Church? For pastors? For how Christians weigh in on theology, politics, and culture?Together, we reflect on the role of wisdom, humility, and discernment in a post-trust, post-expert age — and why this matters more than ever for thoughtful believers.🔔 If this conversation is helpful, hit like, subscribe, and share to join us in reclaiming wise, faithful public thinking.

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On this Good Friday, we explore a major contradiction in today’s culture: growing openness to spirituality—from tarot to Buddhism—while Christianity is increasingly viewed as repressive or outdated. With references to Tara Isabella Burton’s Strange Rites, Tom Holland’s historical insights, and classic Christian apologetics, Cameron and Nathan unpack why this religiously remixed culture prefers personal preference over theological truth.

We also touch on Matt Dillahunty’s secular morality, the idea of “it works until it doesn’t,” and how Western values are deeply shaped by a Christian conscience—even when people reject Christ.

This episode is for Christians seeking thoughtful engagement with the culture, and for those wrestling with faith and reason in an age of consumer religion and moral confusion.

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Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction
00:46 – The Spiritual Openness & Religious Resistance
03:00 – Consumer Religion & Strange Rites
10:00 – Pragmatic Morality vs. Grounded Truth
20:00 – Christianity’s Cultural Legacy
30:00 – Iconoclasm, Idolatry, and Good Friday Reflections

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In this episode, Nathan and Cameron unpack the long-awaited debate between Christian apologist Dr. David Wood and atheist-turned-agnostic Alex O’Connor (a.k.a. Cosmic Skeptic) on the provocative question: Did Jesus claim to be God? With deep theological analysis, cultural commentary, and reflections on the intellectual strategies at play, this conversation is a must-watch for Christians who crave thoughtful engagement with current events, apologetics, and the challenges of modern skepticism. They explore the debate’s backstory—controversies, security threats, and the unexpected birthday showdown—and dive into the heart of the arguments presented. Along the way, they draw cultural parallels, including a timely reflection on the Snow White remake and how disenchantment and revisionism shape public perception of both faith and fiction. Whether you're a seasoned apologist or a believer navigating today’s cultural currents, this discussion offers clarity, conviction, and encouragement to stand firm in a truth-filled vision of Jesus' divinity. Join us for an honest, insightful breakdown of one of the most talked-about debates in recent Christian apologetics.

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In this episode, we dive deep into the controversial conversation around the so-called "sin of empathy"—a topic that has sparked significant debate within Christian circles. Nathan offers his hot take, followed by Cameron’s more reflective approach, as we unpack the theological, cultural, and political dimensions of this complex issue. Drawing on the works of Joe Rigney and Ali Beth Stuckey, as well as commentary from figures like Elon Musk, we explore whether empathy—long considered a Christian virtue—can become problematic when it distorts truth or compromises identity. With references to theological shifts, cultural pressure points, and the nuances between empathy, sympathy, and compassion, this is a must-watch for Christians seeking deep, thoughtful analysis of current events through a biblical lens. Join us for a rich discussion that doesn't shy away from nuance, challenges assumptions, and aims to equip believers to engage the culture with both truth and grace.

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In this thought-provoking video, Nathan and Cameron delve into the intersection of theology, myth, and current cultural trends, with a special focus on C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien’s perspectives on myth within Christianity. They explore how myths, often seen as mere stories, can point to deeper truths, especially in the context of the Christian faith. Drawing on Lewis’s conversion and Tolkien’s insights, they examine the role of myth in understanding reality, contrasting it with modern secular myths like those found in Freudian psychology. This conversation challenges viewers to think critically about how Christianity fits into the broader narrative of human experience and invites Christians to engage with cultural and theological questions in a deeper, more reflective manner. Perfect for those seeking a deeper theological discussion on how ancient truths intersect with modern life.

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In this thought-provoking episode Nathan and Stuart McAllister delve into the complex relationship between the United States and Europe, exploring historical shifts, political alliances, and the cultural dynamics that have shaped both continents. With a focus on the intersection of history, theology, and current global events, Stuart offers a unique perspective shaped by his extensive experience living in both Europe and the U.S. This conversation touches on the evolution of Christian thought in the West, the role of liberal democracy, and the future of transatlantic relations—perfect for Christians seeking deep theological insights on the world's most pressing issues today.

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In this thought-provoking video, Cameron and Nathan delve into the controversial and often misunderstood doctrine of sin, exploring its significance in both theological and practical terms. As the conversation unfolds, they address the growing cultural skepticism surrounding sin, particularly among younger generations, who view it as harmful or outdated. The discussion touches on the biblical understanding of sin as a fracturing of relationships, both with God and with others, offering a relational framework to help modern listeners grasp its relevance. Cameron and Nathan also critique the idea that education or enlightenment can resolve moral failings, highlighting the deeper issue of humanity's inability to consistently act according to moral knowledge. This video is a must-watch for Christians seeking a deeper theological exploration of current societal attitudes towards sin and how to communicate its necessity in a world that often views it with skepticism.

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In this thought-provoking episode, Nathan and Cameron dive deep into the theological implications of the Bible's cosmological descriptions, particularly its reference to a three-tiered view of the universe: heavens above, earth in the middle, and an underworld beneath. Addressing a listener's question, they explore how to interpret these ancient descriptions in light of modern scientific understandings while maintaining a high view of Scripture. They discuss the tension between literal interpretations and the deeper, more metaphorical messages the Bible conveys about authority, power, and divine order. Ideal for Christians seeking to reconcile faith with current events and theological debate, this episode encourages a nuanced approach to Scripture, emphasizing the importance of context and interpretation in navigating ancient texts for contemporary understanding.

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In this thought-provoking video, Cameron and Nathan engage in a deep theological discussion about the rising critiques of Christianity, particularly the term "cult" being used to describe evangelicalism. They explore the growing trend of individuals deconstructing their faith, offering insights into the diverse outcomes of this process. The conversation delves into the implications of using the term "cult" in modern evangelical circles, questioning whether such critiques are accurate or exaggerated. With references to historical definitions, doctrinal distinctions, and the political involvement of evangelicalism, they invite viewers to consider the broader theological and cultural context. This video is a must-watch for Christians seeking a nuanced, theologically rich exploration of current events and their impact on the faith.DONATE LINK: https://toltogether.com/donate BOOK A SPEAKER: https://toltogether.com/book-a-speakerJOIN TOL CONNECT: https://toltogether.com/tol-connect TOL Connect is an online forum where TOL listeners can continue the conversation begun on the podcast.

In this thought-provoking discussion, we dive into the concept of "thick" or "full-package" Christianity, exploring how young people today are seeking deeper, more rooted expressions of faith. We contrast this with the current trends of deconstruction and exvangelicalism, shedding light on how many are looking beyond the superficiality of modern church models, yearning for practices that engage their entire lives. From ancient rituals to communal bonds, this conversation highlights the tension between embracing rich theological traditions and navigating the cultural shifts shaping Christianity today. If you're a Christian passionate about theological depth and current events, this conversation is for you—examining the search for stability, authenticity, and meaning in a rapidly changing world.

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In this thought-provoking video, Cameron and Nathan dive deep into the increasing interest in the Bible, particularly among Gen Z, based on a fascinating article from the London Times. The discussion centers around an 87% rise in Bible sales in the UK, a trend that points to a growing hunger for spiritual meaning amidst a post-pandemic world. With more young people turning to physical Bibles, the hosts explore why people are increasingly seeking deep theological understanding rather than digital distractions. They also offer valuable advice on where to begin reading the Bible, emphasizing the importance of starting with the Gospels, especially for those new to the faith. Tune in for insightful reflections on how Christians can approach scripture in today’s complex cultural landscape, fostering a deeper connection to their faith and addressing pressing theological questions.

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In this thought-provoking discussion, Cameron and Nathan dive deep into the cultural implications of the film Anora, a modern Cinderella story celebrating the sex industry, and its controversial impact on societal values. As Christians, they reflect on the troubling normalization of morally questionable behavior in mainstream media, including the glorification of sex work and public nudity at high-profile events like the Oscars. Drawing on biblical teachings and historical insights, they explore the shift away from shame and discuss the dangers of equating financial success with moral virtue. With a focus on long-term consequences, they urge Christians to critically evaluate current cultural trends, while challenging the rise of a “happy pagan” worldview and its potential harm to both individuals and society. This video offers a deeper theological perspective on how Christians should engage with today's rapidly changing moral landscape.DONATE LINK: https://toltogether.com/donate BOOK A SPEAKER: https://toltogether.com/book-a-speakerJOIN TOL CONNECT: https://toltogether.com/tol-connect TOL Connect is an online forum where TOL listeners can continue the conversation begun on the podcast.

In this thought-provoking discussion, Cameron and Nathan dive into the pressing question, "What do Christians actually do?" They explore how modern Christianity has evolved in a culture that is increasingly post-Christian, addressing the growing ignorance of biblical truths and the decline of core Christian practices such as prayer, Bible reading, and church attendance. With a focus on how Christians can live out their faith in a society that prioritizes autonomy and casual hedonism, this conversation offers deep theological insights and reflections on how the Christian way of life stands in contrast to the prevailing cultural norms. Ideal for those seeking to engage with current events through a theological lens, this video challenges believers to reflect on the real-world implications of their faith.

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In this episode, Nathan and Cameron discuss if faith is really the opposite of doubt. They dive into the nature of doubt and the hidden assumptions behind skepticism, challenging the idea that atheism is a neutral starting point. Drawing from thinkers like Leslie Newbigin and Michael Polanyi, they explore how faith and reason intersect. They also examine the intellectual roots of modern skepticism and its impact on contemporary debates. If you're interested in apologetics, theology, and the intersection of faith and culture, this discussion is for you! #Apologetics #Theology #FaithAndReason #ChristianPhilosophy #Skepticism

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In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore the current state of Christianity, focusing on the "decline of the decline" in religious participation in America. Drawing on data from Barna, Pew, and Ruth Graham's New York Times article, they highlight a surprising trend: although church participation continues to drop, the rate of this decline has slowed in recent years. They discuss potential reasons for this shift, including a focus on core believers and the rise of younger conservatives seeking more traditional faith practices. The conversation also delves into the growing appeal of rooted religious traditions, the changing dynamics between male and female participation in church, and the broader implications of cultural shifts on faith. For Christians interested in thoughtful, theologically rich reflections on current events, this episode provides crucial insights into the intersection of faith, culture, and societal change.

Christianity Decline Study: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/us/christianity-us-religious-study-pew.html

David Brooks Quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSa52TR9tCA&t=637s

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In this episode, Nathan and Cameron revisit "The Coddling of the American Mind" by Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff, offering a deep theological reflection on its three main untruths: "What doesn't kill you makes you weaker," "Trust your feelings," and "Life is a battle between good people and evil people." The conversation highlights how trauma has been redefined to include emotional distress, how emotionalism has become ingrained in societal thinking, and how the idea of good versus evil is often oversimplified in political discourse. Drawing connections to Christianity, the speakers emphasize how the teachings of Christ challenge these cultural trends, urging Christians to confront adversity, trust in God's truth, and engage with others in love and humility. This episode provides a valuable discussion for Christians seeking deeper insights into the intersection of theology, psychology, and modern societal challenges.

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In this episode Nathan, Cameron and Stuart explore the theme of repentance, particularly focusing on public figures in the Christian community who have fallen into scandal and later demonstrated true repentance. Through an examination of biblical figures like David, Moses, and Peter, the conversation transitions to modern-day examples of church leaders navigating public failures and the journey of restoration. The role of community in these processes, alongside the changing dynamics of church discipline in the age of social media, is also analyzed. The conversation critiques the modern approach to forgiveness and public relations in Christian leadership, encouraging a deeper reflection on true restoration versus reputation management.

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In this episode Nathan and Cameron dive into the fascinating story of Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia, who recently made waves in theologically-informed online communities by publicly sharing his journey to Christianity. With a background in philosophy and technology, Sanger’s testimony is a unique, intellectually rigorous exploration of his spiritual transformation, structured into chapters for easy navigation. The discussion delves into Sanger’s skepticism, his critical engagement with both the new atheism and traditional apologetics, and his eventual embrace of Christianity. This analysis serves as a compelling example of how apologetics can influence even the most analytical minds.

LARRY SANGERS CONVERSION BLOG: https://larrysanger.org/2025/02/how-a-skeptical-philosopher-becomes-a-christian/

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Nathan and Cameron dive deep into the complex relationship between faith-based organizations, the federal government, and religious freedoms. They explore the controversial legal battle involving the Mennonite Church’s lawsuit against the Trump administration over religious rights and sanctuary practices, touching on themes of immigration, sanctuary cities, and the church's role in society. Through an engaging discussion, they navigate the delicate balance between moral convictions and adherence to federal law, drawing parallels with historical examples like the Underground Railroad and the Holocaust. This episode challenges Christian audiences to reflect on the tension between faith and politics, offering insights on how to respond to current events where religious beliefs and governmental policies intersect.

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In this episode, Cameron and Nathan dive into the insights of Jonathan Rauch, a homosexual atheist Jew, who has recently shifted his views on secularism and its impact on society. The discussion touches on Rauch's book Cross Purposes: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy, where he argues that Christianity plays a crucial role as a "load-bearing wall" for democracy, emphasizing the need for virtuous living to sustain democratic values.The episode explores how Christians can navigate the tension between political engagement and true discipleship, reflecting on the state of the church today. They also explore the concept of civic theology, discussing the balance between religious conviction and the broader needs of society, including an interesting comparison to the Church of Latter-day Saints’ approach to political engagement.Join the conversation as they reflect on how Christians can better embody the Beatitudes, the fruits of the Spirit, and live out their faith in a politically charged world.

In this episode, we dive into why Catholicism still matters—even if you’re not Catholic! We explore the legacy of Pope John Paul II, how he differs from the current Pope, and the Church’s ongoing tensions with the modern world. Plus, we break down Vatican II and its impact. Whether you're religious or just curious, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss! We are a listener supported podcast and indeed ministry. If you would like to support us financially, you can do that by going to www.toltogether.com and then just click the donate.

A lot of ink has been spilled on the subject of the freemasons in the past, but the subject has gone a bit silent in recent years. Why so? No doubt, part of the reason would be the increasing isolation of our cultural moment. In this episode, we consider both the freemasons, as well as the shrinking clubs and organizations that characterize our North American landscape.

In recent years, Christian apologetics has become a full-fledged academic field. But is this really a good thing? And, in a world so captivated by individualistic conceptions of the good life, is apologetics still relevant? Having spent most of our careers in apologetic circles, we’ve got some thoughts on the matter.

Okay, this title is pure clickbait. But you have to admit that Mariann Edgar Budde’s sermon certainly sparked its share of strong opinions, the most exasperated of which came from President Trump himself. Join us as we dive into the conversation.

A recent Wall Street Journal article has us asking this question. We’ll give you three guesses on where we land. If you’d like to hear why we landed where we did, however, you’ll have to tune in.

Though the revelations concerning popular author Neil Gaiman are horrifying, they hardly constitute an isolated incident. Taking into account recent news items, we can also add Cormac McCarthy to the mix. Artists are one thing, but what about the people who claim to be ministers of the gospel? Do we continue to draw from their work even when they’ve fallen from grace? It goes without saying that this is a heavy episode, but we invite you to tune in.

What do we do when we’re confronted with people who claim to follow Jesus, but who appear to unrepentantly depart from his commands on a habitual basis? This question is fraught with tension since we want to avoid both legalism and presuming to know the heart of someone else. But doesn’t Scripture itself indicate that there are times when we need to draw lines in the sand? Join us as we dive into this complex question.

We’re joined by Stuart McAllister to talk about the seismic cultural shift that’s led us away from self-sacrifice, patriotism, and martyrdom to radical individualism and an addiction to comfort and convenience. Is it really true that dying for a cause has gone the way of the dinosaur? Or are we seeing it emerge once again, albeit in different ways? And how do we as Christians overcome this addiction to comfort and convenience?

“This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wakeup call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives.” These are the words of Matthew Livelsberger, a 37-year-old Green Beret who took his own life before detonating a Tesla Cybertruck at the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. What are we to make of such a philosophically motivated act of violence? In this episode, we turn to a consideration of the all-American obsession with violence.

While the TOL take on the Christmas holidays might sound like a bit of a bummer, it’s actually more lighthearted than it sounds.

In a provocative lecture for First Things, poet and novelist Paul Kingsnorth argues against Christian civilization, making the case that Christ’s teachings confound our civilizational efforts. The talk has since been expanded into an article if you’d prefer to read it. We do recommend you read the piece as it’s as thought-provoking as it is challenging. Join us as we discuss it.

A string of carjackings linked to a TikTok challenge have raised a number of ethical challenges. Is the manufacturer in any way responsible for the thefts and damages? Is it right to benefit from a class action suite that isn’t necessarily fair? We’re grateful to one of our thoughtful listeners for sending in this question. Join us as we consider what it means to do the right thing in the face of an increasingly complex legal system.

With his elite background and dashing looks, the man behind the murder of UnitedHealth C.E.O., Brian Thompson, has become a viral superstar. The public reception of Mangione’s actions paints a chilling picture of our nation. In this episode, we explore some of the implications of lionizing a murderer.

In a provocative new book, sociologist Musa al-Gharbi offers a sweeping theory of wokeness as a recurring social phenomenon—that’s right, we’ve been here before, says al-Gharbi—tied to “elite overproduction.” The book is understandably making waves and we decided to enter the fray of the conversation.

We often talk about the importance of civil disagreement on TOL. In this episode, we do our best to model what it looks like as we both explore a major disagreement with a thinker we deeply admire. We hope it’s helpful to you.

Advent is upon us. For Christians, this is a season centered on Christian hope. But in a world that’s increasingly filled with despair, what does Christian hope actually look like? Though there’s nothing wrong with optimism, it’s a good deal less durable than hope. This becomes especially obvious when the world is falling apart. In this episode, we consider the shape of Christian hope today and we draw generously from Scripture to put flesh and blood on our statements.

It’s Thanksgiving week. We’re supposed to be going through the motions of gratitude—a basic mode of orientation that’s conspicuously absent in our consumer culture. Add to that the increasingly suspicious view of positivity and this particular day becomes more of a challenge. In this episode, we explore the underpinnings of this suspicion and consider how gratitude, far from being a shallow affectation, is actually a basic frame of mind for Christians.

We recently had the privilege of participating in a symposium at Restoration Presbyterian Church devoted to the topic of understanding our cultural moment. This week’s episodes will be a bit different: we’re going to release both of the talks we gave at the symposium and today you’ll hear from Nathan. We pray that it’s helpful to you.

We recently had the privilege of participating in a symposium at Restoration Presbyterian Church devoted to the topic of understanding our cultural moment. This week’s episodes will thus be a bit different: we’re going to release both of the talks we gave at the symposium, starting with Cameron’s. We pray that it’s helpful to you.

There’s been a concerted effort in recent years not only to construe Bonhoeffer as a card-carrying evangelical (he wasn’t), but also as a right-wing culture warrior who would have voted for Donald Trump. Bonhoeffer’s family, along with a number of scholars, have vigorously protested this use of the man’s name and legacy. Join us as we explore the growing temptation to use respected Christian voices from the past as pawns in the culture war.

Join us as we discuss the election and explore some of its outworkings.

Christians recognize that we live in a fallen world. Nevertheless, when we survey the growing levels of despair among believers, it’s clear that many are suffering because of unrealistic expectations. Here, we do our best to balance hope with realism.

Non-traditional forms of media, whether podcasts, YouTube channels, or substack writers, are outpacing mainstream media. In this episode, we consider what this changing media landscape says about the state of our culture.

It’s our annual Halloween episode where Nathan lets Cameron off his leash to talk about spooky season and horror films. Cameron doesn’t have the most sympathetic audience here, but the discussion is always fun.

In a fascinating discussion, Jordan Peterson and Richard Dawkins grapple with the nature of truth, Christianity, and…the virgin birth. As is usual, Peterson seems reluctant to come down firmly on direct questions regarding the supernatural events of Scripture. We decided to jump in.

As our nation grows increasingly post-Christian, many believers find themselves on the margins. This is a new experience for Christians in North America and one that will require some adjustment. However, one small group seems to have escaped the cultural scrutiny. Ironically, the Amish are more countercultural in their lifestyle and more insular than most believers. And yet they remain strangely popular. Why? Join us as we dive in.

Social critics have coined the phrase “apocalypse fatigue” to characterize the general weariness that’s a byproduct of our constant catastrophizing. Throughout history, many people assumed that the end was drawing near and that the world had reached such a chaotic state that no recovery was possible. And then the world kept on turning as it does today. In this episode, we consider whether things really are that bad, or whether we’re simply falling prey to the perennial temptation to see our own challenges as utterly unique.

A recent article detailing the misdeeds of the social media giant is bringing it under scrutiny once again, this time for its role in harming teens, young women in particular. In this episode, we consider the overall value of social media and also pose the question of whether it’s even worth redeeming for the purposes of ministry.

From The Atlantic and National Review to Slate, a slew of recent articles argues that reading among young people is becoming increasingly rare. To be sure, humanities professors have been making this argument for a long time, but the tone has shifted to a more practical concern in these new pieces. Students are simply unwilling (or unable) to read for extended periods of time. In this episode, we consider whether we’re truly becoming post-literate.

Wars and rumors of war are rampant at the moment. The sight of hundreds of rockets lighting up the sky over Jerusalem only intensifies these anxieties. In this episode, we discuss the nature of today’s global conflicts and consider how we might think, pray, and behave responsibly, first as Christians and then as citizens.

Stuart McAllister grew up in post-war Britain and is no stranger to the allure of nationalism. In this episode, we asked Stuart about his past experiences with nationalism, as well as his read on its global resurgence.

A frequent question put to us is, “How do you come up with topics for TOL?” A twice-weekly podcast demands a lot of content after all. In this episode, we discuss our top sources for the podcast and consider how they help us to better frame current events.

On a recent trip to Singapore, Pope Francis made the following statement to an interreligious group: “[Religions] are like different languages in order to arrive at God, but God is God for all. Since God is God for all, then we are all children of God.” He went on to point out that all faith traditions lead to the same destination. Naturally, these off-the-cuff remarks have sparked controversy, particularly among conservative Catholics. Pope Francis’s approach to interfaith dialogue, however, is very much a part of our cultural moment in general. Join us as we dive into the discussion.

Miles Smith IV recently decided to comb through most of the major publications by self-proclaimed exvangelicals. The end result was a provocative piece for Mere Orthodoxy. We also recommend the interview he did with Aaron Renn. One major factor he identifies is a form of clericalism that stems from a weak ecclesial structure. Join us as we dive into this discussion.

In this episode, we discuss the events of September 11, 2001 and consider how they changed the world.

We tend to think about cultural influence under the heading of major categories like politics, economics, education, technology, and media. However, what if all of these are outworkings of something much deeper and more mysterious—namely, the human spirit? Join us as we kick the hornet’s nest once again on the topic of cultural engagement.

If you know anything about TOL, you know we have tremendous respect for the sociologist James Davison Hunter. It just so happens that Hunter has released a new book: Democracy and Solidarity. It’s a sobering and at times pessimistic book about the cultural crisis in America. In this episode, we talk about Hunter’s approach to uncovering the deep sources of cultural change.

Gossip is a routine part of most of our lives. It’s also deeply destructive. In this episode, we consider the cultural significance of gossip and examine some of its outworkings in our communities.

It’s an extremely weighty topic, but how do we wrestle honestly with faithful prayer in a world filled with so much that runs counter to God’s will? Join us as we wade into these troubled waters.

A fascinating article in New Atlantis Magazine charts the strange cultural journey of psychedelics. What began as a full-blown Utopian vision to heal a fractured modern society has ended in yet another bland consumer option. We’ve come a long way from Timothy Leary to Joe Rogen. In this episode, we consider this strange trajectory.

It’s a safe bet that the outcome of this deeply contentious election will result in a good deal of bitterness and acrimony. As Christians who have a deep concern for their nation, how do we respond to these circumstances? And how do we avoid succumbing to bitterness ourselves?

In a rare occurrence, we found ourselves not only in the same room, but at the same conference. The organizers thought it might be a good idea to have us record this episode before a live audience. We’ll let you be the judge of whether that was a good idea…

And so much more. Really, this episode is a discussion on the importance (and difficulty) of building, rather than simply critiquing when it comes to the life of the church. This article was particularly wise on the subject. We hope you’ll join us. And for the record, we’re not necessarily telling you to avoid Basham’s new book. We’re just offering thoughts on why it may be more of a distraction for some of us.

We’ve talked AI, but we haven’t yet broached the subject of artificial intimacy—the fact that millions of people are developing what they take to be relationships with machines. Join us as we dive in.

Ours is a deeply materialistic age. In this context, we tend to regard everything and everyone in instrumental terms. Leaking pipes need plumbers; broken cars need mechanics; broken humans need doctors, therapists, and fitness coaches. While we’re not disparaging any of these professions, we will make the case that human beings are more than the sum of their parts. Our thoughts were stirred by Jake Meador’s helpful essay that appeared in Mere Orthodoxy.

In this episode, Nathan sits down with his often quoted Grandpa to talk about the parallels between our era and the 1960s and how his church leadership style adapted to grow churches in the midst of cultural chaos. We hope this is an encouraging reminder to those who are interested in the future of the church.

In fact, the word “smart” doesn’t actually fit here at all. In this episode, our thoughts were spurred on by an excellent article that appears in Plough Magazine. Join us as we sound like two grumpy old men discussing the current infatuation with all things technology.

As we continue to process the assassination attempt on former president, Donald Trump, we sat down to consider the national response and its implications for the spiritual health of America.

Warren Smith has been on a fascinating journey ever since he lost his job as a teacher for challenging the tenets of gender ideology. We decided to chat with him about the principled resistance to serious conversation that we often encounter in our cultural moment. If you’d like to learn more about Warren Smith and his work, check out this page.

It’s no secret that we live in an age of information overload. On a practical level, this often shows up in the numerous links people send to us in a given day. We know that this flood of news and entertainment wastes time and feeds anxiety, but we can’t seem to look away. In this episode, we consider some strategies for freeing up mental space.

It’s a time of great transition and social upheaval in North America and the church is far from immune. In this episode, we interview Stuart McAllister about this shifting dynamic and what it might mean for those of us who follow Christ today.

Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry recently signed a bill mandating the public display of the 10 Commandments in public school classrooms in his state. Does this represent a victory for democracy and the values that have shaped our nation? Or is this yet another episode in the ongoing culture war between conservatives and progressives? Join us as we dive into the discussion.

From Plato’s Republic all the way to the trope of the faithless priest, there’s a rich tradition of thought focused on heroic modes of unbelief—elites who mislead others in a self-sacrificial manner in order to promote social stability. In this episode, we ask, Is it noble to tell people a lie that seems to make them happier?

Addiction in North America is nothing new, of course. What’s changed in recent years, however, is the sophistication behind our mind-altering technologies. In the episode, we discuss our addiction to mood control and consider its implications for the church.

A thoughtful listener recently posed the question about the alleged difference between joy and happiness. In numerous books and sermons, joy is represented as something that transcends one’s immediate circumstances and happiness is portrayed as relatively superficial. Is this true? And when did the opposition emerge? (We think it might have a little something to do with C.S. Lewis.) Join us as we discuss joy vs. happiness.

Cornerstone University in Grand Rapids, Michigan recently announced that it’s slashing its humanities department in an effort to boost student enrollment and offer more “market value” for degrees. From a business standpoint, this might make some sense, but what precisely is a liberal arts college without any liberal arts? And what does this say about Christianity’s abiding emphasis on the life of the mind? Join us as we dive into the subject.

We get older and discover that life is often deeply ambiguous. Confoundingly, the Bible often matches that ambiguity. People come down with terminal illnesses. Some are healed. Some are not. If scripture is supposed to help us make sense of human experience, what do we do when it appears to raise more questions than answers? We invite you to think alongside us on this issue.

Whether we recognize it or not, we all have a philosophy of life—a basic notion of what the good life is. But the problem isn’t just that we fail to live up to our own standards. The problem is that we’re often blissfully unaware of our life philosophy, simply taking it for granted. In this episode, we explore some of the implications of the examined life.

We’re excited to announce that we’ve just launched TOL Connect, an online discussion forum for podcast listeners to continue the discussions we’ve begun on the podcast. In this episode, we talk about the what, why, and how of TOL Connect. Practically speaking, it’ll tell you how to join and how it works.

Pride Month continues to be a challenge to Christians as we make our way through a culture that increasingly views us as pariahs. Here, we continue to press into the conversation about how we respond to our rapidly shifting cultural landscape.

Usually, our church conversations about our possessions turn on warnings about rampant materialism. But what if there’s a spiritual component to taking care of our things? From gardening and basic home maintenance all the way to renovations and car restorations, most of us will recognize the spiritual disciplines hardwired into these pursuits if we pause and think about it for a moment. Join us we talk about it.

A recent article by Ted Gioia on the decadent state of our culture pushed us to ask, “Are things really that bad?” It’s a question on many people’s minds these days, so we decided to explore it on this episode.

Social psychologist Jonathan Haidt continues to churn out bestsellers and his latest book, The Anxious Generation, is adding a new level of urgency to the conversation around parenting. But do we really need Dr. Haidt to tell us that smartphones and social media shouldn’t be in the hands of young children? TOL listeners know we’re fans of Haidt’s work, so this isn’t a knock on him. It is, however, a bit of a nudge to stop outsourcing our parenting to so-called experts. Join us as we discuss this issue.

A conservative Catholic speaking to conservative Catholics at a Catholic university argues for the importance of God and family values. And breaks the internet? Unsurprisingly, those with progressive leanings take umbrage at a popular athlete arguing for the normative place of a traditional family in society. What is surprising, however, are some of the theologically conservative Christians who who have also taken offense at the man's speech. Join us as we parse some of the reactions and consider some of their larger implications.

As the title suggests, we’re delving into the ethics of church security and considering how Christ’s moral vision shapes our approach.

We recently received a thoughtful question from a listener in Canada about the issue of reparations. Though we certainly can’t close the book on such a complex subject, we did our level best to offer some constructive thoughts on the issue. We pray it’s helpful to you.

We’ve talked about Ayan Hirsi Ali. We’ve talked about a grudging admission from professor Richard Dawkins that he’s now a cultural Christian. And now we’ll add the bubbly, charming, and highly articulate Russell Brand to the discussion. We’ve seen this before, right? Kanye West, anyone? How about Bob Dylan? But something feels different this time. Join us as we talk about that difference.

From Columbia University all the way to the University of Georgia, protests against the war between Israel and Hamas are erupting all over the nation. As Nathan observes on the podcast, these kinds of protests are a relatively recent phenomenon and depend upon a political framework that values the dignity and worth of the individual—something firmly rooted in Christianity. In this episode, we consider a Christian response to protesting in general, as well as a response to the specific protests taking place today.

Not all of today’s art is ugly, of course. But there is a rather pronounced flight from beauty in many contemporary cultural artifacts, from movies and television to novels and poetry. Why this principled interest in ugliness? Join us as we explore what some critics refer to as “the uglification of everything.”

In a viral article for the The Free Press, former NPR journalist Uri Berliner highlights a number of striking failures at NPR, as well as a broader push from the organization to stop its audience from thinking for themselves. Berliner’s piece is the latest installment in a growing distrust of mainstream media sources. Join us as we explore some of the implications of trying to separate fact from fiction in the world of current events.

Most people recognize that beauty as a broad category certainly isn’t restricted to a museum or an art gallery. However, the fact that lots of today’s artists seem committed to making aggressively ugly art has led to a widespread distrust. In this episode, we press into that distrust and aim to expand the conversation.

The baleful tone regarding generation z shows no sign of abating. But are these young people really facing such unprecedented challenges because of social media and smartphones? For that matter, isn’t smartphone addiction something that affects all of us, rather than one age demographic? Join us as we dive in.

One of the many predictions concerning the future impact of AI technologies is that the traditional work week will shrink down to 2-3 days. As Cameron wryly observes, “We’re having a cultural crisis of meaning and now we’re going to take away a good portion of our work. What could possibly go wrong?” In this episode, we explore the value of work and consider its place in human life, as well as its role in our eternal destiny.

In an incisive essay for First Things, Mary Harrington dubs the principled opposition to all normative standards that have governed western civilization down the ages as “normophobia.” Though perhaps not the subtlests of neologisms, the concept nevertheless captures a very real dynamic in our culture. Join us as we explore normophobia and we encourage you to read Harrington’s essay.

From the divine creation of the world all the way to the resurrection of Christ, Christians are predisposed to believe in extraordinary things. Or at least, this is what the cultural wisdom of the age would have us believe. But are Christians really uniquely gullible because they affirm the existence of the supernatural? Join us as we dive into this listener question.

In an interview that’s since gone viral, Professor Richard Dawkins, a once-militant atheist, admits to being a “cultural Christian,” effectively breaking the brains of nearly everyone familiar with his work and public persona. While he’s clear that he doesn’t believe in the existence of God, this still represents a stunning reversal. Plenty of Christians are understandably expressing skepticism. Writing in Christianity Today, Russell Moore argues that Dawkins’s stance threatens to undermine Christianity much more effectively than his more aggressive tactics of the past. But is Dawkins’s change of heart really so insidious or so trite? We’re not convinced. Join us as we talk about it.

From tarot cards to healing crystals and astrology apps, why is paganism so popular today? In this episode, we explore its appeal and consider why today’s practices often seem so shallow.

Yes, it’s a provocative title and question, but evangelicals in particular have a tendency to view fictional truth with suspicion. No doubt, this stems in part from a Puritan heritage that rejected fiction as a lie. In this episode, we press into this strange heritage and consider how stories can tell the truth in vital ways.

According to the Surgeon General, loneliness is officially at epidemic levels. But why do we continue to treat an inherently spiritual condition as nothing more than a physical problem? And how are loneliness and a deeper sense of purpose connected? Join us as we explore these questions.

American Christians, we’re not in Kansas anymore. The mood has shifted decisively and Christianity is now widely recognized by our most influential cultural voices as harmful for the individual and society. The list of accusations is as long as it is inaccurate: racist, homophobic, xenophobic, sexist, misogynist, fascist, among others. How do we engage a cultural context this hostile? Join us as we dive in on this vexed topic.

One of the fundamental questions facing our world is whether Islam will see reform. There is a key distinction to be made between Islam as a theocratic vision and the many muslims who have peacefully integrated into Western nations. However, it would be naive to overlook the fact that the political aspirations of Islam have made strategic inroads into the West and that this process has been going on for a long time. The ongoing immigration crisis plays a huge role in this challenge. Join us as we consider a Christian response to this challenge.

The term “Christian Nationalism” has been steadily gaining traction as an epithet. On the one hand, critics are concerned about what they believe to be theocratic aspirations in certain fringe groups and movements. On the other hand, a growing number of intellectuals, many of them not Christian, are arguing that Christianity is the wellspring of western civilization as we know it. In this two-part series, we delve into the meaning of the term and its positive and negative outworkings. This episode considers the abuses of Christian Nationalism.

The term “Christian Nationalism” has been steadily gaining traction as an epithet. On the one hand, critics are concerned about what they believe to be theocratic aspirations in certain fringe groups and movements. On the other hand, a growing number of intellectuals, many of them not Christian, are arguing that Christianity is the wellspring of Western Civilization as we know it. In this two-part series, we delve into the meaning of the term and its positive and negative outworkings. This episode considers the positive influence of Christianity on nations.

Many Christian parents have serious reservations about the fantasy genre, the Chronicles of Narnia and the Lord of the Rings notwithstanding. What are we to make of worlds filled with dark magic and evil sorcerers? In this episode, we delve into these questions and consider a Christian response to the fantasy genre.

A recent piece in American Reformer makes the case for a “tragic view” of history, one that necessitates a figure like Donald Trump to counteract the civilizational threats that confront us from time to time. But do Christians really have a tragic view of history? Cameron doesn’t think so and Nathan decided to ask him about it. Join us as we push back against our nation’s mounting political despair.

We’ve just launched a free series taught by Stuart McAllister that consists of 7 videos titled, Inconvenient Truths. In this episode, Stuart joins us to discuss the series and offer some insights on how best to use it. There’s only one Al Gore reference.

The word “woke” is in wide circulation these days and has mutated into exclusively negative connotations. Why? And just what is so harmful about woke ideology in the first place? In the first part of this series, we trace the intellectual roots of this mindset and consider what a Christian response looks like. For those who want a concise exploration of wokeism, we recommend this article by Bishop Robert Barron. In this episode, we explore the weaponization of grievances and how it’s used as a rhetorical strategy to silence serious debate.

The word “woke” is in wide circulation these days and has mutated into exclusively negative connotations. Why? And just what is so harmful about woke ideology in the first place? In the first part of this series, we trace the intellectual roots of this mindset and consider what a Christian response looks like. For those who want a concise exploration of wokeism, we recommend this article by Bishop Robert Barron.

From the ravages taking place in once-great American cities like San Francisco to the farmers challenging the double standards being imposed on them by the European Union, we continue to suffer because of idealists whose policies have little bearing on reality. In this episode, we press into the key differences between destructive idealism and the necessity of having ideals.

The latest “He gets us” ad that aired during the Super Bowl has something to offend everyone. Conservatives saw it as a capitulation to the fashionable issues of our day. Progressives saw it as a kind of Trojan Horse to smuggle in repressive values that we ought to discard. Join us as we dive into the conversation.

The latest “He gets us” ad that aired during the Super Bowl has something to offend everyone. Conservatives saw it as a capitulation to the fashionable issues of our day. Progressives saw it as a kind of Trojan Horse to smuggle in repressive values that we ought to discard. Join us as we dive into the conversation.

A Gen Z influencer has a theory about why people his age look older than their millennial peers. It has to do with cosmetic procedures taking place at a much younger age. The issue certainly isn’t generational, though. These days, most of us are beckoned in a narcissistic direction. In this episode, we chat about the self-obsession that’s driving us all crazy.

The popular conservative pastor, Alistair Begg, recently found himself at the center of controversy when he assured a grandmother that it was okay for her to attend her grandchild’s marriage to a transgender person, provided she was clear on her opposition to the matter. Begg promptly found himself disinvited from a number of conferences. Most seriously, Truth for Life—the program based on his sermons—was dropped by American Family Radio. Given that we just discussed the cancellation of Calvin Robinson from the Mere Anglicanism conference, we thought we’d turn our attention to this latest controversy.

The question, What does it mean to be human? is at the center of our fiercest cultural battles. Within our Christian subcultures, it also underwrites seminars on topics like “Biblical Manhood” and “Biblical Womanhood.” In this episode, we press into the countercultural security represented by the men and women who find their identity in Christ, rather than in themselves.

Apologetics has been unfashionable among many believing intellectuals for a while. In the shadow of this disapproval, apologetics has also emerged as a full-fledged academic field and as a result, a new generation of apologists are bringing a higher level of rigor and sophistication to the enterprise. But this is often a mixed blessing, leading many to believe that apologetics is only for professionals. In this episode, we push back on this assumption and try to offer a holistic assessment of apologetics.

Fr. Calvin Robinson recently gave a talk on Critical Theory at the Mere Anglicanism conference in Charleston, South Carolina. When his talk caused offense, he found himself swiftly disinvited from any further engagement at the conference, including participating on a panel discussion. This decision has met with a good deal of backlash, with many arguing that a conference such as this one would have been an ideal venue in which to pursue serious disagreement in a spirit of mutual respect and civility. For reference, Fr. Robinson has addressed the controversy on his Substack and has also included a transcript of his talk. We encourage you to read both. In this episode, we talk about the need for Christians to learn how to disagree with one another before they can reach across cultural dividing lines.

In a helpful piece for Front Porch Republic, Doug Stowe makes the case that teaching young kids to work with their hands can help them to discern between fact and fiction in an age of increasing misinformation. The painstaking process of working within the boundaries of the material world makes us less gullible when it comes to deception and far-fetched claims because we’ve made tangible contact with reality. One of us is an example of hands and head knowledge and one of us is more of a symptom of our time. We leave it to you to figure out which is which.

Sociologists are quick to point out that our culture is awash in pagan spiritual practices. Does this fervent seeking point to a genuine spiritual hunger? Or are we simply incorporating pagan elements into our consumer habits? Join us as we dive into this topic.

It’s no secret that loneliness is a growing problem in our world, but why is this the case? On the face of it, we seem to be more connected than ever. The problem isn’t limited to relational breakdown, either. Even in the midst of relationships, countless people still feel desperately lonely. In this episode, we delve into this sobering topic and consider how the church might begin to address the problem.

Rebecca Baumgartner recently drew attention to the habit of many authors of popular nonfiction to write for an “audience of imagined idiots.” The folk wisdom these days is that regular folks just don’t like to think and that the only way to get them to do serious intellectual work is to lure them with charming anecdotes and digestible little nuggets. Think TED talks. Is this true? We’re not convinced. Tune in as we talk about the distinction between simplicity and oversimplification.

In a superb video essay, Thomas Flight argues that today’s movies feel different because we’re venturing beyond postmodernism into what he terms “metamodernism”—a sensibility that’s every bit as ironic and self-aware as postmodernism, but that nevertheless takes on a more hopeful posture. Is this a profound new movement or breakthrough, or does the emperor have no clothes? Join us for a lively discussion.

All 379 passengers aboard a Japan Airlines plane escaped with their lives after a collision with a Coast Guard plane on the runway. Sadly, 5 out of the 6 passengers on the smaller plane perished in the accident. Clearly the result of a serious logistical error, the successful deplaning of the commercial airliner has been singled out for praise. It’s also led people to ask whether something like this could have been pulled off in an American context. Join us as we reflect on this telling question.

Ready or not, the new year is upon us. Queue the inevitable lists of resolutions, goals, and dreams. And yet we live in a cultural moment that resolutely refuses to define what makes a good human being. In this atmosphere, how do we honor Christ’s supreme command of loving God and neighbor above all else?

Cameron watched it. Nathan didn’t. Cameron sort of liked it. Nathan is intrigued. Join us as we close out 2023 by discussing its most popular movie.

With attention spans plummeting, some critics are arguing that watching a movie in one sitting is today’s equivalent of reading a book. Implicit in this argument is the notion that watching movies is inferior to reading books. But is that true? Nathan and Cameron have some differences here, but we’ll let you guess who stands where on the issue. Tune in to hear them hash it out.

Indisputably, one of the greatest Christmas films ever made, with a surprising existential gut-punch. In this episode, Nathan grills Cameron about the enduring greatness of Frank Capra’s classic.

From efforts to classify religious prohibitions as hate speech to pro-Palestine demonstrations on college campuses, the issue of free speech has taken on a new note of urgency in recent years. Add to this the power of the web to amplify these messages. As Christians, how do we conduct ourselves in such times? Join us as we kick the hornet’s nest on a fairly volatile topic. In the end, we hope to bring more light than heat.

In a stellar essay for The New Atlantis, Garth Brown trains a critical lens on chicken consumption and explores our habit of prioritizing efficiency over all other considerations. Nathan also makes the bold claim that he knows more about chickens than Cameron knows about horror films. It’s true. Tune in to hear his excellent thoughts.

One of the standard objections to Christianity is that God isn’t more obvious. Amazingly, we’ve never talked about it on TOL and we decided to fix that in this episode.

A recent article in The New Atlantis proposes a special council for the management of AI technology, rather than mere government regulation. This proposal takes its cues from a similar council that was assembled under the Bush administration to tackle challenges posed by emerging biotechnology. Join us as we consider the vexing topic of AI once again.

Thought the authenticity craze was all played out? Think again! In the wake of AI, the social media landscape, and widespread institutional distrust, we’re desperate for it. Join us as we explore some of the ironies and possibilities surrounding authenticity.

It’s Giving Tuesday, so we thought we’d take the opportunity to explore the Christian understanding of generosity. Why do we give and what does it mean to live in the light of the fact that we have nothing that we have not received? Join us as we dive into this important topic.

Famed tattoo artist Kat Von D is yet another unlikely recent convert to Christianity. Though portions of her story have been exaggerated by the press, it’s a dramatic story. Join us as we consider this growing trend of high profile figures joining the church.

With a number of high profile conversions to Christianity recently, many people continue to challenge the motives involved. In this episode, we press into some of those reservations and try to move in a more hopeful direction.

Former atheist Ayaan Hirsi Ali sent shockwaves through the intellectual world when she announced her conversion to Christianity. Nevertheless, some are calling her motives into question, arguing that her embrace of Christianity has more to do with its benefits to western civilization than the veracity of its claims. In this episode, we explore this striking trend of public intellectuals courting the church.

A recent essay argues that the primary focus for Christians nowadays ought to be on repairing a broken culture that has “lost its script.” In this episode, we discuss what such an endeavor will involve and why we’re excited, rather than worried, about Gen Z.

Philosophy of mind has become a hot topic in recent decades for one major reason: The mystery of consciousness seems to present insuperable challenges to a materialistic conception of reality. In this episode, we delve into this subject and consider its bearing on the question of what it means to be human.

A steady diet of news often leads to a sense of pessimism and helplessness. Most of what happens around the world is completely outside of our control and reading about current events only amplifies this feeling. Is it okay to ignore some news items? Is it okay to say, “This has no practical relevance for my life”? Join us as we talk about ignoring the news in a culture that fetishizes being informed.

We’ve witnessed a dramatic spike in antisemitism in the wake of Hamas’s recent attack on Israel. Though certainly not a new development, the animus toward Jewish people, particularly on Northeastern university campuses, is growing more dramatic. In this episode, we discuss this growing antisemitism and consider some of its broader implications.

Why do so many outside the church see Christianity as little more than a political party? And why is there such a temptation to conflate our spiritual convictions with our citizenship? It’s a perennial problem that intensifies during times of cultural crisis. Join as we explore the co-opting of Christianity.

William Friedkin’s landmark horror film, The Exorcist, turns 50 this year. It happens to be Cameron’s favorite movie, so Nathan decided to grill him on the subject.

The practice of evangelism has come under scrutiny in recent years. Many young people now question the ethics of missionary work as well. On a more practical note, many of us also shudder at the thought of getting into an awkward conversation about faith with the people around us. And what about discipleship? Is it possible to separate evangelism from discipleship as we often seem to do? Join us as we dive into a reconsideration of evangelism in today’s world.

The addition of a postgraduate course on magic at Exeter University in England is raising eyebrows. To our minds, however, this fits well with the surging interest in exotic forms of spirituality. But could this also be an opportunity for earnest conversations on the nature of reality? We think so. Join us as we chat about the burgeoning interest in all things magic.

The conflict between Israel and Palestine brings us face to face with the notion of collective guilt. How do we wrap our minds around individuals being held responsible for the actions of a larger group, or, in many cases, actions and events that preceded their own lifetimes? How do we hold people responsible for somebody else’s behavior? In this episode, we train a theological lens on these vexing questions.

What do a megachurch pastor and the Pope have in common? No, that’s not the start of a joke. Both of these figures offer a dramatic picture of the continued difficulty to be in, but not of, the modern world. Join us as we explore how issues of sexuality and human identity are continuing to eradicate the comfortable middle for the church.

On the morning of Saturday, October 7th, Hamas carried out a series of coordinated attacks against Israel, killing 700 and wounding over 2000. Over 150 people, including women, young children, and the elderly, have been taken hostage. In this episode, we talk about these terrible events and consider the nature of warfare in today’s world.

Nathan Rittenhouse recently appeared on the Premier UnBelievable podcast to discuss the question, Do Animals have souls? His interlocutor in the discussion is Joyce D’Silva, Ambassador Emeritus for Compassion in World Farming. Click here to listen to the podcast and to read Nathan’s follow-up article. In this episode, Nathan begins by trying to convince Cameron to become a vegetarian.

Nathan Rittenhouse recently appeared on the Premier UnBelievable podcast to discuss the question, Do Animals have souls? His interlocutor in the discussion is Joyce D’Silva, Ambassador Emeritus for Compassion in World Farming. Click here to listen to the podcast and to read Nathan’s follow-up article. In this episode, we unpack Nathan’s conversation and we press into why the question of animal rights is so prevalent right now.

Nathan Rittenhouse argues that we live in a moment when our idealism is outpacing our capabilities. In this episode, we explore the tension of wanting to improve the world while facing our human limitations.

Inspired by a recent article in Plough Magazine by Dr. Kathleen Mulhern, we decided to explore why so many of us drop all spiritual practices after five o’clock.

From road rage to people losing their tempers in public spaces (airports, restaurants, stores, etc.), anger is a dominant emotion in our cultural moment. Is it possible to be angry without losing control? Should we as Christian press toward a life that’s totally free of anger or is that wildly unrealistic? Join us as we press into this volatile emotion.

Swift backlash followed Drew Barrymore’s announcement that her show would move forward in spite of the ongoing writer’s strike. She’s since made the decision to postpone it. In this episode, we delve into the weird world of US entertainment and consider its relationship to work.

Known as the Postman Pledge, a group of some 37 families have chosen to disavow all social media usage and smartphones in their homes. Predictably, not every member of the household is happy with this arrangement, but it does represent an interesting challenge to our tech-saturated moment. In this episode, we explore Postman Pledge, as well as our dependence on technology.

Rolling Stone magazine recently published an exposé on the “toxic work environment” of the Tonight Show, pointing specifically to Fallon as a key contributor to the chaotic atmosphere behind the scenes. Known for his endearing mannerisms and affable personality, Fallon seemed to be a paragon of niceness. In this episode, we explore niceness and consider its relatively superficial nature.

A recent article offers a rare and intimate glimpse into the mindset of a pastor leaving his church. In this episode, we explore the pitfalls of a consumer approach to church, as well as some of the daunting challenges facing those who simply want to be faithful pastors, rather than CEOs and administrators.

There’s no avoiding it; this is an AI moment. But many of the fears about AI seem to vastly overestimate its nefarious capacities. In this episode, we explore the confusion surrounding this topic and consider how we might put our fears into perspective.

In a recent piece for First Things, Samuel Klumpenhouwer makes the case for displaced PhDs to find a home at classical schools. The job stability is better, the intellectual community is stimulating, and, perhaps most importantly, the students aren’t yet jaded and cynical. In this episode, we talk about the crisis in higher education and consider what form the education of our children ought to take.

According to a number of recent reports, not only are many evangelicals walking away from church; they’re holding onto their orthodox convictions. That is, they still believe in the Trinity, the virgin birth, and Jesus’ resurrection. They just stopped going to church. Join us, as we explore some of the steps it took to get us here, as well as the larger question of whether all of this waning attendance is really such a bad thing.

Yes, it’s a clunky title, but the topic came from a well-worded listener question about raising boys in today’s world. Join us as we chat about everything from “toxic masculinity” to the changing dynamics of household economies.

Oliver Anthony’s song has become a viral sensation and now every major cultural critic is eager to break the song down and examine its underpinnings. While we didn't want to dissect the song, we did want to explore it a bit, since it’s captured the public imagination in such a powerful way.

Fad diets and weight loss medication seem to offer long term benefits for short term costs. Even though we know these products can’t deliver on their full promises, we continue to buy into them. Why? Join us as we explore the considerable overlap between physical and spiritual health.

China’s refusal to abide by the terms of the Paris Agreement makes it clear that the West doesn’t speak for the world. In this episode, we consider the fact that other cultural perspectives remain a challenge for us, no matter how cosmopolitan we may believe ourselves to be.

The episode title was also the title of a talk that Nathan recently gave to a large gathering at a coffee shop. Here, Cameron and Nathan continue to explore the ways in which our culture seems to be trending away from the rugged individualism that dominated previous generations. But where exactly are we going? Join us as we explore the topic of community in the modern world.

Cameron recently delivered a series of faculty lectures on Critical Theory to a classical school in Oklahoma. In this episode, Nathan grills Cameron on the subject.

In-vitro gametogenesis. If this sounds like the stuff of a sci-fi story, you’re not far off. In fact, in-vitro gametogenesis offers the possibility of making sperm or egg from any cell. The process has already been successfully carried out with mice. Obviously, this new “reproductive technology” raises numerous mind-bending ethical questions and we wanted to take the opportunity to dive in.

In a recent article for the Atlantic, Russell Moore argues that what many people mean by revival is actually nostalgia in disguise—a fervent desire to go back to the way things were, rather than an openness for the Lord to do something new. Join us as we dive into Moore’s provocative thesis.

In a recent interview, professor Richard Dawkins admitted that religion plays an essential role in human flourishing despite its inherent falsity. The claim is far from unique. Social psychologists like Jonathan Haidt continue to point to the societal benefits of religion while maintaining a naturalistic perspective. In this episode, we dive into the role of religion and consider why we’re often hardwired for suspicion on this topic.

In this episode, we explore three listener questions having to do with the management of chronic pain, speaking in tongues, and curation vs. creation in a world saturated by content. Thanks as always for the thoughtful questions and we hope this is helpful to you.

In this episode, we discuss a recent letter penned by thousands of authors, asking artificial intelligence companies like Meta and OpenAI to stop harvesting their content without their permission. It’s yet another indication of the uncharted territory of our cultural moment. But it also raises questions about the kind of work we value and the people we consider expendable. Join us for a discussion of the collision between art and AI.

A recent piece in Reuters highlights a new expansion to the laws surrounding physician assisted suicide in Canada. The new law would move the criteria beyond terminal illness to include mental illness as well. If this sounds like a slippery slope, a growing number of human rights activists feel the same and are raising serious questions. In this episode, we explore the sad irony surrounding modern assumptions about the value of human life.

The western world is becoming more and more of a melting pot and conversations about religious differences are going to be unavoidable. In this episode, Nathan Rittenhouse interviews Dr. Andy Bannister about how we talk to our children about Islam.

We just lost Cormac McCarthy at the age of 89. In this episode, Cameron calls him one of the greatest contemporary American novelists. A very private man, most of the details of his life remain obscure. Here, we talk about the complexity of dealing with an artist who doesn’t fit neatly into a Christian worldview.

Thanks to the all-encompassing nature of its explanatory power, the scientific pursuit of human origins is attaining a kind of “Holy Grail” status. But is this within the purview of the hard sciences? How do we respond to this endeavor as Christians? In this episode, Nathan interviews Reasons to Believe president, Dr. Fuz Rana, a scientist himself, on this crucial subject.

Happy 4th, TOL listeners! In this episode, we explore the differences between patriotism and nationalism with a little help from Wendell Berry.

The Russian-occupied Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is raising serious concerns about a possible nuclear disaster. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy is warning that Russians may trigger a nuclear explosion, effectively turning the plant into a dirty bomb. In this episode, we chat about how we respond to disaster scenarios that are largely out of our control.

Six people have been indicted in a grisly scheme involving the sale of human body parts at no less an institution than Harvard Medical School. The bodies had been donated to the facility for scientific research. In this episode, we explore why Christianity gives us a high view of the human body, even one that has expired.

Sadly, the latest reports confirm the implosion of OceanGate’s Titan submersible, a catastrophe that claimed the lives of all five passengers. In this episode, we reflect on the nature of risk, humanity’s irrepressible urge to explore new frontiers, and how we might balance the two.

That four children managed to survive for 40 days in the Amazonian jungle is an astonishment that we’ll be working through for years to come. Unsurprisingly, search efforts spared no expense in terms of expertise and technology, even going so far as to enlist the help of local shamans. In this episode, we explore the persistent theme of the occult in both Scripture and contemporary culture.

As you probably guessed, we’re not experienced golfers. Rather, our interest in the sport was sparked by the potential merger between the PGA and Saudi-backed LIV. Once again, it appears we’re seeing a collision between stated moral principles and the almighty dollar. But what do we do when virtue doesn’t pay? Join us as we explore some of the limitations of a market mindset.

The destruction of the Kalhovka dam in Ukraine has set off a chain reaction that will likely culminate in a full-scale ecological disaster. Join us as we explore this latest development in the war-torn region of Ukraine.

The recent debate between Dr. James Tour of Rice University and skeptical YouTuber, Dave Farina, is a bracing emblem of our time. Characterized more by character assassination, belligerence, and agitation than generosity, even-handedness, and careful argumentation, the event raises the question of whether public debate is still a viable option in our increasingly shrill culture. In this episode, we explore the question of whether it’s possible to bracket one’s religious convictions for the sake of open-minded inquiry.

The recent debate between Dr. James Tour of Rice University and skeptical YouTuber, Dave Farina, is a bracing emblem of our time. Characterized more by character assassination, belligerence, and agitation than generosity, even-handedness, and careful argumentation, the event raises the question of whether public debate is still a viable option in our increasingly shrill culture.

In the estimation of our cultural elites, Christians are pariahs—people holding to beliefs that are not only outdated and irrelevant, but actively harmful. For those of us who follow Christ, how do we practice the Holy Spirit-inspired art of treating people with this mindset as our neighbors? In this episode, we explore this practice in the context of Pride Month.

In an admittedly extreme example of our sexual radicalism, a group identifying themselves as “the Sisterhood of the Perpetual Indulgence” is gaining considerable attention in the news. Predictably, their antics are as sacrilegious as they are juvenile. On the one hand, there’s ample cause for alarm when the sacred is profaned on a popular level. But what about laughter? Is there a time to laugh at the sheer ridiculousness of our human foibles without trivializing their severity? Join us as we explore these questions.

We recorded this episode on May 24th, Bob Dylan’s 82nd birthday. Since Cameron can’t contain his inner fanboy, we opted to use the occasion as an opportunity to discuss the dangers of claiming Christian celebrities in an effort to boost the credibility of the church. We hope you enjoy the episode. Now go spin some Dylan.

As the tributes continue to pour in for the late Tim Keller, we wanted to add our own words of appreciation for the man. Join us as we explore Tim Keller’s legacy and consider what distinguished him as a minister in today’s world.

Do you need a mentor? Should you have a mentor? And what, for that matter, does a mentor do? Have we said "mentor" enough? Join us for a discussion of mentorship and its place in the Christian life.

Health care workers are four times more likely to experience workplace violence than any other profession. Given this staggering number, hospitals across the country are assembling their own police forces and work is underway to intensify laws protecting these spaces. In the past, medical facilities were viewed mainly as places to seek medical attention. Today, the expectations are higher. In this episode, we dive into some of the reasons for the growing desperation surrounding these facilities.

Today, many incisive thinkers speak of Aldous Huxley’s dystopian classic as a prophecy. “Welcome to our Brave New World,” they say with a grimace. In this episode, we explore Huxley’s novel and consider some of the ways it parallels (and departs from) our cultural moment.

Why do sexual sins get all of the focus in our churches, while pride often gets a free pass? Worse, pride is often celebrated and rewarded. In this episode, we explore some practical strategies for overcoming pride.

As of Tuesday, TV and movie writers are on strike. The tense discussions leading up to this impasse terminated in a failure on the part of studios to issue a new contract. It's easy to get lost in the weeds on this story, but one aspect we find interesting is how little value we seem to place in the actual makers of our society, whether they're artists, farmers, or craftsman. On the other hand, we place a high premium on marketing and distribution. We think this imbalance is worth a closer look.

From the immorality of sex before marriage to the necessity of cultivating an active prayer life, the so-called basics of Christian life aren’t so basic anymore. How did we get to a place where grace is understood in mainly passive terms, obedience is viewed as legalism, and God is seen as a distant figure who doesn’t interfere in our day-to-day lives? Join us for an intense discussion.

Yes, we’re discussing one of the most misunderstood of the seven deadly sins. Though we might be tempted to equate sloth with laziness, this is not its true meaning. An actual glimpse into this particular vice offers a picture that’s equal parts practical and convicting. The cure is even more challenging. Sound uplifting? Join us as we dive into acedia.

In a previous episode, we talked about staying at a church where you’re not happy. But what if you’re not happy with your denomination? How do we know when to leave? And how can we work to ensure that our decision isn’t just shaped by matters of personal preference? This won’t be the last time we talk about this subject, but it is the first time.

Now that we got your attention with that title, we invite you to join us for what we hope is a fair and careful discussion about the nature of Christian cultural engagement. As our title suggests, this episode will likely push you a bit in your thinking. All we ask is that you give it a fair shake.

Is there intelligent life out there? What about the uptick in credible UFO incidents? More importantly, would the existence of intelligent life beyond earth represent a threat to Christianity? Join us as we delve into this weird territory.

What do Elon Musk, Bud Light, and the new Super Mario Bros movie have in common? No, that’s not the start of a joke. In this episode, we explore the apparent disconnect between the general public and our cultural elites. Our conclusions might surprise you. Here’s a hint: St. Peter doesn’t call Christians “resident aliens” for nothing.

“Chreaster”: a word that combines Christmas and Easter to describe people who only attend church twice a year. It’s not a particularly elegant word, but it does offer a concise summary of an interesting social phenomenon. In this episode, we consider “Chreasters,” as well as the various strategies churches use to draw them in.

Wanna know why we’ve got the word “rationality” in scare quotes? Tune in and find out. We’re exploring the resurrection, TOL style.

There seems to be a rather pronounced generation gap regarding the issue of cussing among Christians these days. Is it okay to cuss? What’s the difference between “cussing,” “cursing,” and “swearing”? Join us for an exploration of these crucial questions.

We entered into this recording with fear and trembling, and we pray that it might play some small but healing role as we wrestle with this latest atrocity.

The term “woke” has gone through many different transformations since it burst onto the scene of public discourse. Once a phrase that designated a kind of moral awakening, it has since mutated into a term of moral opprobrium. What did it mean? What does it mean now? Is it even worth using anymore? Join us for these questions and more.

The sociologist Max Weber famously coined the term “disenchantment” to describe the mood of the modern world. In recent years, however, there’s been a pronounced attempt to recover enchantment under the guise of various exotic spiritual practices (crystals, occult rituals, wicca, psychedelic drugs, etc.), and this burgeoning interest has crept its way into the church as well. But were we ever disenchanted in the first place? And do we really need to embark on a project of re-enchantment? Join us as we explore this subject.

Gladwell being Gladwell, he has a theory on the various approaches to justice in modern entertainment. We’ve all heard of a “Western,” of course, but have you ever heard of an “Eastern”? How about a “Northern”? Join us as we do our best to take the joy out of your entertainment habits. Just kidding. Sort of…

What happens when our earnest prayers for healing don’t meet with success? And what should characterize our posture toward faith healing in the first place? Join us as we consider this crucial topic.

Do these two words go together at all, or do they signify an outright dismissal? Didn’t C.S. Lewis himself say that in Christ “myth became fact”? Join us as we explore the ways in which the word “myth” is applied to Scripture and consider how we might be more clear in our communication.

If you haven’t noticed, we try to read widely. Inevitably, this leads us to voices with whom we have serious disagreements. But aren’t ideas dangerous? Don’t they have, you know, consequences? In this episode, we try to make a responsible case for engaging with books and voices outside the church and how this can enhance your ministry and your spiritual growth.

“Are we a podcast that does ministry, or are we a ministry that does a podcast?” That was Nathan Rittenhouse’s question as we resigned from our former jobs and stepped out in faith to found Thinking Out Loud. It’s been nearly two years since that day, so we thought we’d take this opportunity to provide an update on the current shape of our ministry and where we hope to go.

The recent catastrophic train wreck in Ohio has led to a familiar public response: politicization, scapegoating, and wild speculation. In this episode, we pose the question, Is there such a thing as a genuine accident in the modern world?

Rest is likely one of the most undervalued aspects of human life today. Our culture is frenetic in its pace and ruthless in its demands. Sadly, those of us who follow Jesus often get swept into this dynamic, trying to justify our existence through our productivity. In this episode, we consider the importance of rest and seek to recover a biblical understanding of its crucial place in human life.

Our title begs the question, Is Roald Dahl being censored? Publishers are softening some of the language in classic children’s tales like James and the Giant Peach, Matilda, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in order to cater to current sensibilities. Doesn’t this set a dangerous precedent? Join us as we dive into the discussion.

With the recent launch of The Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics, Tim Keller has finally caught up with TOL in recognizing the importance of this mode of engagement. Okay, we’re patting ourselves on the back a bit too hard, but we did want to jump into the discussion as this important new project will no doubt bring a more missional slant to the apologetic task.

A routine chapel service that began on Wednesday, February 8th at Asbury University is still going as of this recording. Though the word “revival” is in wide circulation, many Christians are hesitant, preferring to wait and see the long term outworking of this surprising event. In this episode, we explore this new development and consider how to respond in a balanced manner.

In 2019, the American Psychological Association pronounced “traditional masculinity” “harmful,” sparking an intense conversation about the nature of manhood that has yet to abate. (“Toxic masculinity” is now the more popular phrase.) But is there really a crisis of masculinity? And what is masculinity, for that matter? Join us as we dive into the conversation.

Wanna hear us talk about everything from Sam Smith’s satanic GRAMMY performance to Tim Keller’s latest article in the Atlantic? Tune in and buckle up!

Since the US shot down a Chinese spy balloon over the coast of South Carolina, there’s been no end of speculation and jokes. In this episode, we explore what happens when serious news converges with a public primed to see everything as entertainment.

Harold Ramis’s accidental masterpiece, Groundhog Day, is a modern comedy classic. It’s also a morality play in which the central character learns the joys of virtue. That it manages to pull this all off without being preachy is a small miracle. The fact that both Nathan and Cameron like this movie is a full-blown miracle. Be sure to check out Jeff Reimer’s excellent essay on the film.

The recent slaying of Tyre Nichols by five police officers has sent shockwaves through the nation. Doing our best to balance compassion and conviction, we decided to process this terrible event.

Nope, but you should definitely join us as we discuss more of the implications of this emerging technology. We try not to sound too grumpy. Nathan succeeds. Cameron gets an A for effort.

There’s a pronounced dissatisfaction with church among many Christians today. The reasons are various—preaching, worship style, social dynamics—but the strong temptation is to simply leave and find a better “fit.” Of course, there are legitimate reasons to leave a church, but in this episode we suggest that we’re often too quick to “jump ship,” so to speak. Join us as we dive into the glorious mess of the local congregation.

ChatGPT is an open-language, open-ai (artificial intelligence) platform that’s mastered roughly half of the internet, making it a formidable content generator. The implications of this technology are as staggering as they are unnerving. Nathan thinks this something genuinely new that’ll bring about sweeping changes. Cameron’s a bit more circumspect. Tune in and see what you think.

A thoughtful listener recently took the time to write to us and express concern that we were presuming to know other people’s motives. In this case, those of Amy Grant. We took the feedback to heart and decided to devote an episode to it.

If you’re a longtime TOL listener, you might recognize this topic. It’s been nearly three years since we last discussed it, however, and our culture hasn’t made any strides in this area, so we’re revisiting it. In fact, our culture remains relentless in its insistence on moral perfection. But if we can’t be wrong, we can’t grow. Join us as we discuss an area in which we're pretty consistent, namely, being wrong.

America was shaken after the Bills safety, Damar Hamlin, collapsed on the field following a tackle. Now recovering in the hospital from cardiac arrest, Hamlin’s near-death experience inspired an outpouring of prayers and support. Many were stunned to see everyone from professional football players to sportscasters praying publicly. What does this say about the nature of belief in our nation? And how should Christians respond to this apparent groundswell of religious devotion?

The recent passing of Benedict XVI (Joseph Ratzinger) at the age of 95 went largely unnoticed. In this episode, we talk about this extraordinary man, as well as the distinctive strengths and weaknesses of Catholicism in the modern world.

Well, it’s 2023 and many of us have resolutions and clean slates on our minds. In this episode, we suggest that a helpful reorientation might involve the notion of self-discovery, rather than self-construction. Join us as we take something straightforward and make it complex.

Uplifting topic, we know, but we couldn’t fail to notice that for the first time in a while, life expectancy is going down in the US. Given our relative affluence, comfort, and stability, this is a rather striking fact. Join us as we explore the causes of our shortening lifespans.

Amy Grant and her husband, Vince Gill, are drawing criticism from many Christians for hosting a gay wedding on their ranch. The story highlights many of the tensions surrounding so-called Christian celebrities in a cultural moment of mounting hostility towards the church. Join us as we explore this story.

It’s no secret that many of us struggle during Christmas time. Making matters worse is the fact that our culture tends to make the whole thing a performance, rather than a celebration. How can we recover a more holistic vision of Advent? Join us as we dive into holiday fun!

Bestselling author and Anglican priest, Tish Harrison Warren recently ignited a firestorm with a New York Times op-ed, arguing for a generous pluralism that would extend the same rights to Christians as those outside the church. In an article for World Magazine, Bethel McGrew offers a compelling alternative to this form of public Christian witness in the figure of Sean Sheehy, a retired Irish Catholic priest who boldly calls out homosexuality, transgenderism, and abortion as some of the main mortal sins of our age. Like Warren, he was raked over the coals, but his response was decidedly firmer and more robust: He remained steadfastly compassionate, while pushing against the lies of our culture. In this episode, we explore the changing dynamic of public Christian witness and consider how we move forward.

The recent breakthrough in nuclear fusion offers a stunning array of possibilities for the future. That said, recent years seem to have tempered optimism regarding the future. Has our culture reached a place of greater maturity regarding technological innovations, or will we continue to place a naive trust in the promises of our machines?

No. But we had a chuckle at this NPR article that highlights several pastors doing their level best to accommodate an increasingly post-Christian culture. In this episode, we suggest that doing the opposite might just be the solution.

The phrase "Goblin Mode" recently made headlines because it's Oxford Dictionary's 2022 word of the year, beating out "metaverse" and "#IStandWith." In an unprecedented move, the committee allowed the public to vote on the matter. What exactly is Goblin Mode and why is it emblematic of 2022? Listen in to hear us do what we always do—take something fun and make it complicated.

Our cultural landscape is changing dramatically. As we move further away from the church's influence, those of us who follow Jesus are not going to be able to blend in any longer. What do persuasion and winsomeness look like in this new context? How do we avoid timidity? And how do we hold onto our deeply unfashionable convictions without coming across as judgmental?

"Well, Cameron, every once in a while, an international sport runs into a theocracy." So begins Nathan Rittenhouse's opening to this episode, which explores the cultural tensions that have erupted at the Fifa 2022 World Cup in Qatar.

Today is Black Friday, a day generally devoted to mass consumerism. So, TOL being TOL, we thought we’d take the occasion to explore the actual nature of gratitude and its role in each of our lives. Take a listen and see what you think!

Want the Thinking Out Loud take on Musk’s Twitter fiasco? Here ya go!

In August, eight-time WNBA All-Star Brittney Griner was sentenced to nine and a half years in prison on drug charges in Russia. Now in a penal colony in Mordovia, Griner’s circumstances have grown more grim as the negotiations for her release continue. Join us as we explore this complex case and consider some of its uneasy parallels in our own nation.

Is it possible to thwart God’s plans? For that matter, is it even possible to “play God”? In a similar vein, does an emphasis on virtue and good works mean that we’re trying to take matters into our own hands, spiritually speaking? Join us as we delve into these matters.

The philosopher John Gray once remarked that we frequently confuse technological progress with moral progress. In this episode, we explore why that’s the case, and consider the fact that novelty in the technological arena doesn’t necessarily translate to novelty in the realm of human nature.

At present, the nation of Haiti is overrun by warring bands of gangs, making for a cultural landscape that's equal parts corrupt and chaotic. The crisis confronts us with a dilemma: How do we respond when we've got a moral obligation to "lost causes"? Whether we're talking about ruthless criminals or their victims, we're talking about human beings, each made in the image of God. In this episode, we talk about how the kingdom of God modifies our understanding of risk, especially when we face a situation with no clear point of resolution in sight.

In which we try to put Election Day into proper perspective.

Certain religious groups stand out rather conspicuously: Devout muslims, Hasidic Jews, and the Amish, to name a few. But what can we say about most modern Christians in North America? In the past, cultural engagement was possible, but those opportunities are shrinking rapidly in the face of increasing hostility. What do we do when being seen as a social pariah is inevitable? How do we learn to embrace our distinctiveness while maintaining our hospitableness?

To Western eyes, I Samuel 28 offers a bracing vision of the spiritual world. Why are we so unnerved by frank accounts of spiritual confrontations? Why is it that people in non-Western settings have a very different response? Could it be that we’re more formed by a materialistic account of reality than we realize? Okay, that last one is a leading question, but you get the point. Join us as we discuss the ways in which this fascinating chapter challenges our assumptions.

It’s our annual Halloween episode, in which we disagree on the efficacy of this particular holiday. Anticipating some of Nathan’s scruples, Cameron took it upon himself to dig a bit deeper on the peculiar place of this day in American life. The results are, we hope, humble, challenging, and reflective, but we’ll let you be the judge!

The recent forced resignation of Andrew Thorburn from his role as chief executive of the Essendon Football Club because of his affiliation with a theologically conservative church has once again raised the specter of religious discrimination. Though this incident took place in Australia, many people see striking parallels in the US. As Western nations continue to move in an increasingly post-Christian direction, how do we prepare for the challenges that lie ahead? In this episode, we consider how Christians might adapt to their growing marginalization.

A recent Atlantic article detailed the defacement of a Vincent Van Gough painting at the hands of environmental activists. It turns out, the stunt was carefully planned, taking into account the fact that the painting was encased in glass. Still, the risk of escalation is pronounced and one security official estimates that this little act of protest could come with a major price tag as museums seek to beef up their security. But why target great works of art? What makes these objects so valuable and even sacred in our eyes? Join us as we seek to explore these questions.

Since Cameron was recently interviewed on the Imago Dei show on the subject of doubt in the Christian life, we took the opportunity to dive into the subject here. We wanted to explore what doubt is, its place in every human life, and how a proper understanding of faith puts the whole thing into perspective.

Carl Lentz, the disgraced former Hillsong pastor, is in the news once again because of a black and white glamor shot of he and his wife that was posted to his Instagram page. Many are speculating that this signals a return to ministry. By many accounts an all-too-familiar story, Nathan Rittenhouse finds the whole celebrity charade deeply perplexing. In this episode, Cameron does his darndest to help Nathan make sense of the appeal of celebrity Christianity.

Nathan Rittenhouse recently returned from a talk at the University of Virginia. Cameron took this as an opportunity to ask him all about the feel on campus these days, as well as the types of questions being asked. Surprisingly, the interest is deeply biblical, rather than topical.

Organic chemistry is a notoriously difficult subject. But what happens when modern sensibilities collide with high academic standards? Dr. Maitland Jones, Jr., a celebrated scholar with a wealth of teaching experience, found out firsthand when a petition signed by a number of his students resulted in his termination from New York University. The complaint: his class was too difficult. Join us as we work through some of the ramifications of this mindset, as well as some of the assumptions undergirding it.

Spurred on by a video of a man harassing a Boston Dynamics robot with a hockey stick, we consider the ethical challenges of living in a world filled with machines that blur the line between humans and technology.

The recent slaying of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Iranian woman, at the hands of the nation's notorious "morality police" has led to massive protests around the country. It's also reigniting the conversation about the public consequences of religion. In the face of an increasingly radical progressive agenda in the west, many people find themselves gravitating toward extreme alternatives. In this episode, we consider the severity of our cultural moment, as well as the call to Christian steadiness in the midst of major upheaval.

Why is it that so many pastors are dejected and ready to jump ship? It’s no secret that being a pastor is a largely thankless job these days, but the difficulties involved with the role are multiplying rapidly as our cultural division grows. In this episode, we talk about the crucial role that pastors play, and some of the features of North American Christianity that diminish that role.

Alright, the title is pure clickbait, but it arises from a troubling new article from Christianity Todaythat charts the top five heresies among evangelicals. Given today’s cultural climate, is it really that surprising that heresy is widespread in North America? And for that matter, how do we even define the term “evangelical” these days? Tune in to hear us talk heresy and evangelicalism.

In the face of skyrocketing tuition rates and increasing isolation between departments, is traditional college still a viable option? For those of us with kids, should we send them to college, or is there a significant shift taking place in the landscape of higher education? In this episode, we’re joined by Jonathan Brush, President and CEO of Unbound, to discuss the future of learning.

Responses to the death of Elizabeth II range from casual indifference to profound grief. Who was this remarkable lady and why is she so historically and ecclesially significant? We all know that the monarchy sits uneasily in our modern world, but Elizabeth II, more than any other member of the royal family, built some remarkable bridges in her long lifetime. In this episode, we’re joined in our discussion by Stuart McAllister, who grew up in Scotland during Queen Elizabeth’s reign.

As our cultural moment grows more embattled and contentious, many of us long for alternative forms of community. Perhaps this explains our largely romantic view of the Amish. From romance novels to daydreams of a “simpler form of life,” the notion that most of us could bring our consumerist individualism into the tight knit fold of an Amish community strains credibility. But what happens when communal practice clashes with the laws of the land? Tune in as Nathan and Cameron press into this question and try to settle once and for all why so many folks think Nathan is Amish.

Cameron recently tagged along to a metal concert headlined by a band that flirts with satanic themes. But there's a reason the word "satanic" appears in scare quotes in the title. Is this a sincere conviction on the part of these musicians? Or is this a clever marketing strategy to scare parents and get the attention of their kids? And what does it say about our supposedly secular society that a band like this gets top billing? (And what band are we talking about? Listen to find out.) Here, Nathan and Cameron explore the strange and deeply spiritual terrain of pop culture, consider some of the double standards, and try to make sense of what happened in that concert venue.

Megachurch pastor Matt Chandler is the latest church leader to find himself embroiled in controversy over an inappropriate online relationship with a female congregant. Many of us are growing more jaded with these kinds of reports. In the case, the current details seem cryptic at best. In this episode, we talk about the broken trust that hangs over all of these scandals and consider how me might move forward by leaning into our own churches and communities.

In this episode, we're joined by Wade Bearden, author of Failing Faith and most recently, To My Friend Who Left the Faith: A Letter to a Prodigal from a Prodigal. We sat down to chat with Wade about his latest book, the changing face of apologetics and evangelism in today's landscape, as well as the crucial need for faithful local churches.

In addition to his writing, Wade also works with Sermonary, "an all in one sermon app that makes preparing and preaching a sermon easier than ever before." Wade also serves as a pastor himself and has a heart for the local church.

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In the not too recent past, many people were optimistic about the future, confident that it would usher in a time of greater peace and prosperity. It's safe to say that this sense of eager anticipation has now died on the vine. Why are we so afraid of tomorrow's world? For that matter, why are we afraid of tomorrow itself? We talk about it in this week's episode.

Are we downplaying how grim things look? Are we being naive? Are we capitulating to our cultural moment by refusing to take it seriously? In this episode, we talk about the persistently hopeful tone that characterizes this podcast and ministry and even mention some of the things that keep us up at night.

In our increasingly post-Christian moment, those of us who follow Jesus are going to stand out. In the past, cultural Christianity made it possible to blend in, but now many of us are having a hard time adjusting to our status as "resident aliens." In this episode, we talk about why this is the case and how we can move forward.

One of the latest dramatic scientific ambitions is to bring back a marsupial from extinction--the thylacine to be exact, otherwise known as the "Tasmanian tiger." In this episode, we go full Jurassic Park, and delve into the ethical implications of "de-extinction."

British novelist, Salman Rushdie, was recently attacked at a reading in New York and stabbed ten times. Though his condition is table, his injury are "life altering." In the wake of his 1988 novel The Satanic Verses, a fatwa was issued on his head by the nation of Iran. Rushdie was forced into hiding and any public appearances necessitated tight security measures. This latest assassination attempt comes as a shock after years of relative tranquility. In this episode, we talk about the dangerous nature of art and entertainment.

In a provocative article for Christianity Today, Daniel K. Williams, a professor of history at the University of West Georgia, charts the decline of the church in the South by focusing on the mass exit of white southern evangelicals. Though hardly representatives of the entire southern church, this group does point to a sea change in the spiritual life of this region. Is this further evidence of the church's waning powers in North America? Is the church dying? We're not convinced. Take a listen and see what you think.

In our episode on the Victoria's Secret scandal, we made a strong case against the objectification of human beings. But are there ever contexts where it's justified? What about an art class tasked with painting a nude model? In this episode, we consider this complex question, which was submitted by one of our listeners.

Will Smith's recent assault on comedian Chris Rock at the Oscars caused a furor. Since the incident, Smith has retreated from the public eye and all of his current projects have been shelved. The actor recently broke his silence with an apology video. In this episode, we consider the difference between damage control and genuine remorse. We also press into the question of whether our culture has the resources for forgiveness.

Jordan Peterson's gone viral again--it's what he does--with a video addressed to Christian churches. For those familiar with Peterson's tone and message, it will come as no surprise that he thinks (all) of the Christian churches are failing to meet the challenges of our cultural moment. In this episode, we dive into Peterson's critique and consider what we might learn.

A recent Hulu documentary has intensified the public scrutiny surrounding Victoria's Secret. In this episode, we explore how we as Christians can push against the many ways in which our culture predisposes us to objectify human beings.

The speed of cultural change these days is truly dizzying, especially where it concerns issues of sexual identity. In particular, transgenderism has steadily risen to the forefront of concerns in the church. The questions are not abstract: Many of us are dealing with family members and dear friends who embrace an increasingly radical understanding of identity. How do we have these conversations? How do we maintain a balance of conviction and compassion? We explore these questions in this important episode.

Are we living in a simulation? Can we trust our senses? How do we move past radical skepticism? Join us as we explore the wonders and the limits of human knowing.

The beginning of the school year is fast approaching and many of us are deeply conflicted about the current trajectory of education in America. Should we homeschool? Go to a Christian school? But don't we want Christian kids in public schools as well? Join us as we press into this important conversation.

With the record heatwave in Europe prompting more urgent discussions on the topic of climate change, this episode arrives at a timely moment. Join us for Part 2 of our conversation.

Is it possible to move beyond politics when it comes to the topic of climate change? Why is this such a difficult issue to research? And why are Christians often suspicious of the conversation? We explore these questions in this episode. For a deep dive into the topic of climate justice, here's a talk that Nathan gave a few years ago.

By far the most damning pronouncement against Christianity these days is that it's simply boring or irrelevant. In the episode, we explore some of the contributing factors to this misunderstanding, as well as some of the subtle ways in which Christians get pulled into this mindset.

What does it mean to say that Scripture describes reality? How can an ancient book inform our perspective on, among other things, smartphones, COVID-19, mass shootings, and war in Ukraine? This episode considers the practical reality of affirming the authority of Scripture.

That title is just a fancy way of saying that Nathan wanted to chat about Beyonce's new single, "Break My Soul." The song's emphasis on quitting unfulfilling work and pursing a life of meaning and significance is resonating with people for whom the recent lockdowns served as a kind of spiritual awakening.

In this episode, we interview a special guest from Nathan's church about he and his wife's experiences with abortion in the early '70s and their subsequent journey into a holistic form of pro-life activism. We then bring this story to bear on the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

We encountered a technical problem on our latest episode, so it's release is slightly delayed. Here, we offer a brief teaser.

The Christian Reformed Church (CRC) recently published the Human Sexuality Report, a document that's making waves, not least because of its impact on the CRC's flagship school, Calvin University (formerly Calvin College). Though the report focuses broadly on a Christian sexual ethic, it does stipulate that a repudiation of homosexuality be added to the denomination's public confessions. A third of the professors at Calvin (many of them star faculty) have threatened to leave if these measures are adopted at the school. In this episode, we consider the complex interplay between shifting cultural mores and the church's authority.

Over at Mere Orthodoxy, Susannah Black recently published an excellent article, When Belief is Agony. Taking our cues from this essay, we consider questions like "Is my faith sufficient?" "Am I truly saved?" and "Does God really love me?"

An apocalyptic mood is dominating our cultural landscape. Whether the perceived crisis is spiritual, political, or ecological, many of us find ourselves in an increasingly pessimistic frame of mind. Frequently, said pessimism masquerades as realism--"This is just the way things are. I call 'em as I see 'em." Since the tone of Thinking Out Loud is overwhelmingly hopeful, it's worth asking: Are we simply out of touch? Naive? Hopeless romantics of a sort? Worse, are we guilty of downplaying threats to the church? This episode offers an explanation of why we think the hopeful tone is more responsible, reasonable, and realistic.

In a recent article for First Things, James R. Wood argues that popular pastor Timothy Keller's "winsome" approach to cultural engagement is no longer effective. As the church faces growing hostility and resistance from secular society, maintains Wood, she must adopt a more realistic approach for the current climate. He's not the only one singing this song. Thinkers as diverse as Rod Dreher, Sohrab Ahmari, and Carl Trueman are saying much the same thing. But is this true? What does it mean to argue that winsomeness no longer works? We explore these questions in this episode.

We recently received a question about the "Back to Land Movement," which has been steadily gaining traction once again. From influencers aiming their phones at their morning farm routines to survivalists trying to gain a higher degree of self-sufficiency, the movement covers quite a range of attitudes and mindsets. In this episode, we delve into some of the aspirations of the movement and consider its underlying motivations.

Pride Month celebrates sexual behavior condemned by the church, but couples that celebration with increasing social pressure to join in the affirmation. Undeniably, this demand arises in part because of past hurt and mistreatment on the part of Christians. Add to this the dynamics of zero sum culture warring and we have a recipe for increasing levels of weariness, confusion, and occasional hostility. How do we as Christians respond to these dynamics? How do we keep before our minds at all times that we inhabit a world filled not with cultural or ideological opponents, but neighbors.

The ongoing investigation into the police response to the Uvalde shooting at Robb Elementary is prompting a national conversation on the duty of self-sacrifice. In this episode, we discuss the so-called "hard virtues" (courage, honor, duty, justice), and consider the penchant of our age to focus mainly on the soft virtues (love, mercy, compassion).

The Catholic Archbishop of San Fransisco, Salvatore Cordileone, has formally denied communion to U.S. House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, "until such time as [she] [publicly] repudiate [her] advocacy for the legitimacy of abortion and confess and receive absolution of this grave sin in the sacrament of Penance." It's a thoroughly conventional decision that one is tempted to say is little more than the Catholic church being the Catholic church. The fact that so many people are receiving it as an affront, however, points up how deeply entrenched our individualism really is. So, what do we do when our personal desires are challenged by spiritual authority? Join Nathan and Cameron as they explore some of the implications of this question.

Unspeakable crimes have a way of forcing us to confront some of the starkest aspects of human nature. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron consider Salvador Ramos's massacre at Robb Elementary in Uvalde Texas, an atrocity that claimed the lives of 19 children and 2 adults. What do these kinds of crimes say about our cultural moment and how can we as Christians offer hope in the face of such horror?

In the wake of the vile revelations from the report on the Southern Baptist Convention, many Christians are enraged, disoriented, and deeply confused. For some, childhood heroes and cherished stories have now been drastically reframed. What does Christian hope look like in the face of such heinous abuse? In this episode, Nathan and Cameron aim to explore this question.

In this episode, we're joined by Dan Paterson, apologist, speaker, writer, and founder of Questioning Christianity, a ministry devoted to "connecting the Christian story to life's deepest questions." Dan is also the co-author of Questioning Christianity: Is There More to the Story?Our wide-ranging conversation explores everything from the state of evangelism in the wake of the global pandemic to the growing political baggage surrounding the term "evangelicalism." We hope it's helpful to you.

In this episode, two bookish nerds (Nathan and Cameron) who are bookish for a living think out loud about why neither one of them is comfortable giving a top-ten list of books that have shaped them. Come for the philosophical reasoning behind the hesitation, stay for the multitude of books that get recommended in the process.

In this episode, Nathan and Cameron consider the clash between our demand for convenience and the longterm consequences of the food shortages brought about by the war in Ukraine.

In this special episode, we're featuring Cameron McAllister's talk "Deconstructing Evangelicalism," which was delivered at The Branch Community Church in Chicago. Many thanks to the C.S. Lewis Institute for hosting the event and making it available.

"What does it mean to live in a time when most of our maps are filled in?" This question from Nathan Rittenhouse is occasioned by the discovery of the wreck of Ernest Shackleton's vessel, the Endurance. Researches recently located the ship on the Antarctic sea floor. Granted, arctic expeditions are largely a thing of the past, but what does it mean to go on an adventure in the age of GPS technology? Does our infatuation with safety sometimes rob us of vital experiences? Do we need danger? Do you need to listen to this episode? We think so! Buckle up for an adventure.

Canada recently enacted Bill C-7, which greatly expands the eligibility of euthanasia to people suffering from any condition that "cannot be relieved under conditions that you consider reasonable." Talks are already in the works to make the option available to "mature minors." In this episode, Nathan and Cameron consider some of the longterm consequences of the modern infatuation with radical freedom and autonomy, and consider how we as the church can respond. For those interested, here's a link to the article referenced.

With the tech billionaire's recent purchase of Twitter for 44 billion dollars, how could we not seize the opportunity to talk about the guy. Don't miss Nathan's slip at the end where he mistakenly declares that Thinking Out Loud doesn't have a Twitter account. @Think2gether begs to differ!

In our last episode, we discussed Jonathan Haidt's Atlantic piece in which he argues that social media has brought about "structural stupidity." But what if that's a bit dismissive and reductive? Alan Jacobs, another thinker we appreciate, makes the case that there may be something a bit more sinister at work behind the mechanisms that amplify our voices. Join Nathan and Cameron as they bring spiritual warfare to bear on the discussion of social media.

A recent Atlantic article by social psychologist, Jonathan Haidt, argues that not only is social media making us stupider, it's also threatening to tear our society apart. These are bold claims, but Haidt's evidence is compelling and worthy of a close look. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron wrestle with the article and consider its broader implications.

Join Nathan and Cameron for a discussion of the tension between Disney and Florida over the so-called "Don't Say Gay Bill." The Thinking Out Loud crew open up about some of their longstanding reservations about Disney, as well as the challenge of prioritizing discernment over legalism in our cultural engagement.

Nathan and Cameron talk with Stuart McAllister about how to stay faithful in a culture filled with distractions and seduction.

In this special episode, we're sharing Stuart McAllister's Palm Sunday Sermon from last Sunday, April 10, 2022. It's a powerful exposition of the significance of Christ's triumphal entry in Jerusalem, as well as a challenge to each of us to answer Jesus's question to his disciples, "Who do you say that I am?" If you're interested in booking any of the Thinking Out Loud speakers, you can do so here.

You read that title correctly. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore the growing popularity (and likely legalization) of psychedelic mushrooms. It should be a real trip.

Well, the title clued you in: This is our first episode in which we explore one of your questions. In this particular episode, we consider the seeming tension between faith and works. Specifically, we talk about the discouragement we often experience when we face our own failures. We hope it's helpful to you.

Don't let the title fool you. This April Fool's episode is just what you need to bring you back to your senses.

Dr. Andy Bannister is the director of Solas, an organization dedicated to "persuasively communicating Christ into today's culture." Dr. Bannister is also the author of The Atheist Who Didn't Existand most recently, Do Muslims and Christians Worship the Same God?Since Dr. Bannister is an evangelist in Scotland, we wanted talk about what it looks like to minister in truly post-Christian context.

The Atheist Who Didn't Exist: Or the Dreadful Consequences of Bad Arguments

Do Muslims and Christians Worship the Same God?

Want to hear an exploration of Marxism that's historically and philosophically informed? Tired of superficial hot takes on the issue? We thought you might be. That's why we sat down with Stuart McAllister for a conversation about Marxism. Our goal was to take account of its history, as well as its current resurgence in our culture.

A note to listeners interested in the list of books we promised: We're in the process of compiling. Look for it here in the show notes in the next few days.

As the war in Ukraine continues to escalate, the conversation is beginning to move beyond mere geopolitical tactics to take in spiritual factors. The relationship between Putin and Patriarch Kirill of Moscow, for instance, is receiving more and more scrutiny. Join Nathan and Cameron as they consider the spiritual dimensions of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Here's a link to the Rowan Williams's article that we reference.

Christianity Today, "the flagship Evangelical publication," recently revealed that a pattern of sexual harassment on the part of two of its male leaders went unchallenged for years. Given the critical role that CT has played in holding the church accountable in recent years, this story unfolds with a good deal of sad irony. Here, Nathan and Cameron consider this latest story of moral failure and explore what it means for Christian men and women to recover a vision for cultivating virtue.

In this episode, Nathan opens with a temporary solution to the rising gas prices: Drive more slowly. We talk about why that won't happen and how our various technologies, far from combating stress with more convenience, simply add to the mad rush in our lives.

Don't forget to send us your questions: questions@toltogether.com We look forward to doing a whole podcast on the questions you've sent in!

Sensationalism in the news is threatening the very foundations of democracy! See what we did there? In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore some of the consequences of viewing the news as entertainment and consider how we might beyond this habit.

Did you take a picture of yourself at the pump? Be honest. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore what happens when our consumer habits crash into real time historical events.

As promised, here's a link to Professor John Mearsheimer's Ukraine lecture, which continues to garner millions of new views each week.

In the wake of Putin's attack on Ukraine and the rapidly escalating warfare in that region, we sat down for a discussion with Stuart McAllister to explore the complex history between these two nations, as well as their ongoing sources of conflict. It's a sobering conversation but one that we hope will be helpful to you as you seek to understand this new war and its potential global implications.

Stuart McAllister is the Director of Ministry Projects at Reflections Ministries, as well as the Director of Ministry at Thinking Out Loud. He also holds the job title of Cameron's Dad.

Here's a link to Alexander Dugin's book, The Great Awakening vs the Great Reset, which Stuart references. And here's a link to Professor John Mearsheimer's lecture, "Why is the Ukraine the West's Fault?" that both Nathen and Cameron mention.

As Black History Month reaches its 2022 conclusion, Nathan and Cameron are joined by their friend, Brandon Cleaver, for a discussion of what the holiday has meant to him as a black man growing up in the Detroit area. The Thinking Out Loud crew are especially interested in how Brandon sees the Christian's hope informing the challenge our nation's ongoing racism.

Brandon is the Program Director for Matthew 5:9 Fellowship, "a network of Christian leaders shepherding their communities to live out the Gospel and place their identity in Jesus Christ above partisanship and societal divisions." He is also a regular contributor to Jude 3 Project.

Lia Thomas, a transgender woman currently dominating the "Ivy 2022 Championship," is shining a spotlight on many of the issues surrounding transgender athletes. In this case, given the remaining masculine biological features, doesn't this particular athlete have an unfair advantage? Or is this really about "transphobia" and "the policing of women's bodies," as some activists maintain? The radical individualism that animates American culture only complicates these questions. Join Nathan and Cameron as they explore what a Christian posture and response might look like.

For those of you participating in our theology course giveaway, here's a link to Dr. Sumner's class.

"Deconstruction," critical theory, Neo-Marxism--these complex and highly contentious subjects continue to dominate many conversations in the church. But do they constitute a distraction? Isn't church the place for the Gospel alone? In short, what hath Jerusalem to do with sociology (or France)? Tune in to hear Nathan and Cameron tackle these questions.

Sure, Olympic skier Eileen Gu's American sensibilities complicate her career as a Chinese athlete, but the real trouble for the Thinking Out Loud crew is talking about sports in general. In true Nathan and Cameron fashion, the subject leads into all sorts of theological territory. Tune in if you want to hear how we get from Gu's "I'm just a girl living my best life" all the way to Ralph Waldo Emerson's musings on the sacredness of individualism.

We'll give you three guesses as to whether the Thinking Out Loud crew are Valentine's Day fans and the first two don't count. Come for the theological explorations of love in our culture; stay for Nathan's blisteringly hot take on country music.

The title of New York Times columnist, David Brooks's, latest piece speaks for itself: "The Dissenters Trying to Save Evangelicalism from Itself." Some found it compelling. Some found it irksome. Very few had a neutral response. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron weigh in on the state of the church in North America, drawing on some of their sobering experiences as former speakers for Ravi Zacharias International Ministries.

For those interested, here's the link to the uncomfortable interview Cameron mentions at the beginning. And here's the link to Nathan Rittenhouse's talk on environmental justice.

When pop star Dua Lipa asked Stephen Colbert about the role of faith in his life and work, the talk show host gave a surprisingly earnest answer. The clip quickly went viral and sparked some constructive discussions. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron apologize for not knowing who Dua Lipa is, and go on to consider the substance of Colbert's response, as well as its implications for Christian public witness in our cultural moment.

Recent years have seen a dramatic uptick in fascination with the occult. But is this really so strange? Nathan and Cameron don’t think so. Tune in and see what you think.

In this episode, Nathan and Cameron consider Joe Rogan's response to the Spotify controversy.

Is Neil Young "so woke he canceled himself," or is he standing on moral principle? In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore the developing story of one musician's opposition to the streaming giant.

Has the pandemic forced us to recognize that physical church is now outdated? Is the pivot to online services the dawn of a new era, rather than a temporary precaution? Nathan and Cameron explore these issues in this episode and do their darndest to not get too grumpy. We’ll let you be the judge of whether they succeed…

Golden State Warriors co-owner Chamath Palihapitiya recently sparked controversy when he casually remarked “nobody cares about the Uyghurs” on his podcast. Given his wealth and position, it’s worth asking whether such a statement will even make a tangible difference in his life. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron press into the complex question of how wealth often dictates the rules of free speech.

What does a volcano eruption have to do with Christianity? Tune in to hear Nathan and Cameron explore the Tonga eruption, its ongoing devastation, and how our Christian convictions can help us to frame the situation.

Nathan and Cameron discuss the storming of the capital and consider some of the severe responses to its aftermath.

Do we need “Christian” celebrities to validate the credibility of the church? Join Nathan and Cameron as they explore this question.

Space, the final frontier: these are the voyages of Nathan and Cameron as they think out loud about the unprecedented capabilities of the James Webb telescope.

Nathan and Cameron explore the theological underpinnings of the rituals that inevitably structure our lives, and consider how our resolutions (or lack thereof) influence that dynamic.

Inspired by an editorial by Purdue engineering professor, Avi Kak, arguing for the value of the humanities, Nathan and Cameron do their best to persuade you that the humanities equip us for more than flipping burgers.

In this episode, Nathan and Cameron explore the longstanding tradition of media sensationalism and consider why it’s often mistaken for a new phenomenon.

Thought Nathan and Cameron couldn’t overanalyze Advent? Think again. Merry Christmas from the Thinking Out Loud crew!

In this episode, Nathan and Cameron try to explore the unique staying power of Christmas hymns without ruining it in the process.

In the wake of the devastation wrought by tornadoes in Kentucky and portions of the Midwest, many of us are struggling to make sense of these events. Nathan and Cameron explore the nature of our response.

Nathan and Cameron explore the vexed topic of evangelicalism through the lens of Daniel Silliman’s new book, Reading Evangelicals.

In the wake of this latest school shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan, Nathan and Cameron explore the tangled question of moral responsibility.

Though Google remains committed to its "Don't be evil" motto, evil is surprisingly difficult to define without God. Nathan and Cameron consider what evil means in the age of Google.

Nathan and Cameron discuss the broader implications of the tragic events that unfolded on the set of Rust.

Nathan and Cameron continue their discussion of deconstruction by exploring some of the deeper motivations behind the movement.

What does it mean to “deconstruct” one’s faith? Nathan and Cameron discuss the matter.

Nathan and Cameron discuss Kyle Rittenhouse and the events that led up to his trial.

Nathan and Cameron discuss the swelling controversy surrounding Dave Chappelle’s latest comedy special and consider some of its broader implications.

Nathan and Cameron press into the tension between modern assumptions about safety and convenience and missionary work in developing nations.

Nathan and Cameron explore how a Christian understanding of risk frames the discussion on vaccine mandates.

On the occasion of Halloween, Nathan and Cameron take a look at the theological implications of horror movies. They are joined by Dr. Philip Tallon, who is Dean of the School of Christian Thought at Houston Baptist University, as well as Cameron’s old professor.

Nathan and Cameron discuss the controversial Texas “Heartbeat Bill” and consider some of its broader implications for Christians who want to pursue justice without compromising their convictions.

After nearly 6 months away, Nathan and Cameron return to the Thinking Out Loud podcast to discuss the circumstances of their departures from Ravi Zacharias International Ministries, as well as the new direction of the show.