The Other Side of the Atlantic: Recent Episodes

Shade and Rolake

From the US to Lagos (with a layover in London), two global girls chit chat about all things relevant and irrelevant from celebrities to politics to their love lives...stay tuned for the laughs, tears and ridiculous moments.

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We…are…BACK! So…..we know we’ve been MIA for a bit but we took most of 2021 off to get our lives in order. We’ve missed you guys and hope you’ve missed us too as the podcast has been like therapy for us and it’s time to get our butts back on that couch, so please join us for more laughs, reflections and stimulating debates (aka gist sessions). In today’s episode, we begin with our What I’m segment where we share the TV shows, books and music we’ve loved while we were away (BTW, the other Black British actress Shade was referring to was Naomie Harris, Mahershala Ali’s co star in Swan Song). In our main topic, we discuss the unraveling of the relationships between Meagan Good and Devon Franklin and the Ooni and Olori of Ife. Join us as we reflect on the pressures of social media, the impact of external gaze and the role that the commercialization of relationships may have played in their demise.

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Links to article referenced in episode and Rolake’s music recommendations:

https://music.apple.com/us/album/sad-girlz-luv-money-feat-moliy-remix/1596135552?i=1596135564

https://music.apple.com/us/album/im-getting-ready-feat-nicki-minaj/1440881369?i=1440881575

https://www.insider.com/divorce-rate-changes-over-time-2019-1

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Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ve heard of all the drama surrounding Megan and Harry’s bombshell interview with the Queen (no, not that one) of TV, Oprah. As our first episode was on Megexit, you know we had to do an episode on our reaction to the interview, the implications to the monarchy and Megan and Harry ~~Kardashian‘s~~ next steps. Have our opinions of Harry and Megan changed after the interview? Tune in to figure out! Before we get into all the juicy gossip, Shade discusses her new life in suburbia and Rolake gives us an update on her first month as CEO #girlboss. In our What I’m segment, Rolake and Shade discuss the messiness of Rosamund Pike in I Care A lot and Rolake tells us about the South African slay queen in the book she’s reading, The Blessed Girl.

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What I’m 9:49

Harry and Megan 33:23

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You all know we’ve both been in seasons of our lives where self love and friendships have given us so much joy. However, in this week's episode, Rolake and Shade prepare for Valentine’s Day by talking about leveling up for love. We get philosophical and talk about mental and practical steps to get in the right space for romantic love and also friendship. As usual, we kick off with our What I’m segment where Rolake and Shade debate which Francophone Netflix show, after Lupin, is best; Shade's pick is The Hook Up Plan and Rolake's pick is Call My Agent. 

Episode Table of Contents  What I'm 13:43 Leveling Up for Love 33:17

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What a time of collective and individual grief for the world. It seems not a day goes by without news of the death of a friend of a friend, a job loss of a family member or closing of a business we’ve cherished.  Each piece of news is another blow and we mourn with those who have loss in the many ways there is to lose during this time. In spite of all the pain, it is still ok to hope and dream. Some might say the perfect antidote to grief is to muster up the strength to dream. In this episode , Shade and Rolake talk about the importance of setting goals for 2021 and share their own personal reflections on 2020 and how that has shaped their vision board for 2021. Its time to dream again so join us as we talk about our big plans for 2021!

Episode Table of Contents  What‘s I’m - 5:31 Main Topic - 25:00

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In this very special bonus episode, we discuss women’s reproductive and fertility issues with future doctor Michelle aka Chi Chi. We dive into the two big "Fs", fibroids and fertility, in detail and discuss treatment options, symptoms and if it’s possible to have a safe pregnancy with fibroids. Additionally, we discuss when to consider freezing your eggs, the process of doing so, the initial and ongoing cost and how long the eggs are viable for. This is part one of a two part series, in part two, we will discuss pap smears, HPV and cervical cancer and different types of birth control options for different stages in a women’s life. Please email questions you would like answered anonymously at othersideoftheatlantic@gmail.com and we will answer them in part two.

Women delivers baby using embroyo frozen 27 years ago: https://www.health.com/condition/pregnancy/baby-27-year-old-frozen-embryo#:~:text=Tina%20Gibson%2C%2028%2C%20gave%20birth,days%20later%2C%20on%20February%2012.

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We've missed you! It's been an exhausting past month and a half with all that's been going on in Nigeria and across the world so we took a mental health break to digest and recalibrate but we're back and as crazy and as candid as ever! We begin this episode with our opinions on the #EndSars protest and next steps. In the "What I'm" segment, we catch you up on the TV shows, movies and books that we've loved over the past month and we share the items we've converted like Rolake's orange heels and Shade's LeCruset pot and pan set. In our main segment, we discuss what quarantining with our moms (and mummies) has taught us about what it means to adult while coexisting in physical spaces with parents and how you can achieve this while both bonding AND respecting each other's boundaries. There CAN be two queens under one roof ; ) . 

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Episode Table of Contents  What I'm - 16:14 Quarantining with Parents - 33: 44

Atlantic Article https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2020/07/pandemic-young-adults-living-with-parents/613723/

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In this episode, Rolake and Shade discuss different dating cultures around the world and compare them to the dating and marriage culture in Nigeria to examine why the dating culture in Nigeria is trash. From North America to Asia and Scandinavia, the duo explore what it’s like to date as a millennial in these countries and their experiences dating in the US and Denmark. The duo also discuss all that is problematic in the often times toxic dating culture in Nigeria and the transactional nature of marriages. This hot button issue explores why some relationships aren’t built on friendships but on image and how our generation can break these chains of bad marriages and relationships. In the weekly what I’m segment, Rolake and Shade explore their love of all things Indian and share their thoughts on the #Netflix show Masaba Masaba and #BBC show A Suitable Boy. Shade shares her love of Tiwa Savage’s Celia album and Rolake shares her thoughts on the latest book she’s read, The Family Next Door.

What I’m – 8:18 Main Topic – 31:34

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Link to Insider article: https://www.insider.com/what-dating-is-like-in-different-countries-2018-5#dating-in-the-united-states-is-usually-casual-1

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In this episode, Shade and Rolake revisit the defining show for the 2000s’ single girl, Sex and The City. They discuss the pros and cons of Carrie ending up with Big and discuss whether single women should settle down with the Mr Big’s in their own life. The ladies completed absolutely important and crucial research that involved rewatching old episodes and the SATC movies for this episode (such a difficult task but it had to be done!). Tune in for laughs and some wisdom . As usual, the show starts with the “What I’m” segment where the ladies discuss what they’ve been watching, reading, buying etc since the last episode. Episode Table of Contents What I'm - 9:10 Main Topic - 31:54 We're on social! Follow us and share your thoughts and suggestions on episodes: IG @othersideoftheatlantic Twitter @sideofatlantic

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Hey! We missed you...but we're back and glad you are too! On episode one of season two, Shade (based in DC) and Rolake (based in Lagos) catch up on what’s been happening in their lives over the last 5 weeks. Listen to their recommendations on the Netflix shows, books, music and self care regimens they've been hooked on (look out for their thoughts on #BlackisKing). In the main topic this week, the ladies speak on the importance of looking after numero uno before trying to meet the needs of co-workers, family, friends and/or bosses. From the beginning of time, women have been pre-conditioned to put ourselves last; we often end up looking after the needs of others at the expense of our mental and physical health and joy. Hear the ladies talk through personal decisions they're making to relearn what it means to be a good colleague, daughter, friend, wife, mom...etc by filling their own cups first. 

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What I'm - 15:43

Filling Your Own Cup First - 39:04

11 Year Old Nigerian Ballet Sensation - https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/kidspost/11-year-old-nigerian-ballet-dancer-receives-scholarship-after-viral-video/2020/08/07/3f4b92f6-d8c2-11ea-930e-d88518c57dcc_story.html 

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In the season 1 finale, Shade and Rolake discuss how dating is different in their 30s vs in their 20s with special guest Salewa. The ladies revisit their 20s and how their expectations and non-negotiables have evolved as they have grown into their 30s. 

Episode Table of Contents  What I'm - 7:21 Dating in your 30s vs 20s - 21:57

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Join Shade and Rolake in exploring unconventional relationships through Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith's (possibly) open marriage and Gwen Paltrow and husband Brad Falchuk's separate living arrangements. Would you agree to either in your marriage? Are you in another form of unconventional relationship like a polyamorous, polygamist or mixed orientation relationship? Do you live hours, states or oceans apart from your spouse or partner? Listen and discover our take on these types of relationships. In our wildcard, we discuss grown ass adult friendships --- the good, the bad and the ugly. 

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What I'm - 5:40

Unconventional Relationships - 17:53

Adult Friendships - 49:18 

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On How Where You Are Shapes Who You Are - London section

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In episode 6 of the podcast, Rolake and Shade discuss their experiences living in different cities around the world and how its shaped the people they are today. Please note that due to the length of the discussions we left out our section on our experiences in London. In the wildcard segment, we discuss all the times God had different plans for our lives and how His plans ended up being greater than what we'd imagined. Lookout for recommendations on 36 questions to ask a stranger to make them fall in love with you as suggested by Shade in the What I'm segment. Find the link to those questions below!

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What I'm - 4:48 How Where You Are Shapes Who You Are - 18:22 Thankful for God's Nos - 55:45

Links to Topics Discussed

36 Questions That Lead to Love: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/36-questions-that-lead-to-love.html 

Belgium King Sends "Regrets" to DRC: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/europe/belgium-drc-leopold-ii-regrets-scli-intl/index.html

Dating in the US vs UK: https://www.bustle.com/p/dating-on-bumble-in-the-uk-vs-the-us-a-very-scientific-analysis-9238559

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In this week's episode, Shade and Rolake get deep and reflect about the life epiphanies they've had during COVID 19 lockdown. They share views from journalists on how life will change post COVID and the personal realisations they have had - including new plans to move country and start new ventures. The wildcard this week is about "hygge" - finding joy in life's simple pleasures whilst we are home-bound. 

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Episode Table of Contents  What I'm - 4:10 Covid Epiphanies - 17:27 How we Hygge - 53:55 Links to organizations mentioned : www.bankekuku.com www.neighbourlink.ng Links to Topics Discussed: DACA upheld: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rules-against-trump-administration-attempt-to-end-daca-a-win-for-undocumented-immigrants-brought-to-us-as-children/2020/06/18/4f0b6c74-b163-11ea-8758-bfd1d045525a_story.html

Hggye: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/lykke-life-six-pillars-pf-happiness-found-across-globe/  

Fast Company: https://www.fastcompany.com/90486053/all-the-things-covid-19-will-change-forever-according-to-30-top-experts 

Vox: https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2020/4/16/21213635/coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic-legacy-quarantine-state-of-mind-frugality

Architectural Digest: https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/this-creative-consultant-transformed-her-home

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Have you been a victim of a terrible boss? In Episode 4, Rolake and Shade share famous stories of notoriously horrible bosses, their opinions on the bosses and personal stories on situations with not so great leaders. The ladies also share what they've been up to this week, in their weekly what I'm segment (Look out for THREE Keira Knightly movie suggestions). Lastly, this week's wildcard has Rolake and Shade experiencing major wanderlust and as a result, they've been thinking about memorable holidays they've taken...and mishaps that've occurred doing those trips!    

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Episode Table of Contents:  What I'm - 3:42 Very Very Bad Bosses - 17: 53 Travel Mishaps - 45:10 

Links to Topics Discussed: Fox News and Trump Administration Employees: https://www.businessinsider.com/19-people-who-have-worked-at-fox-news-trump-administration-2019-5  Anna Wintour Apology: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethcohen/2020/06/10/vouges-anna-wintour-admits-hurtful-mistakes/#2d12e5ec2823

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In episode 3, Shade and Rolake begin as usual and let you know what they've been up to in the past week in their "What I'm" segment. They then dive into the main topic of the week, dating horror stories, where they share personal stories of dating gone wrong in the US, Denmark and Nigeria. The episode ends with the wildcard topic for the week, unraveling white prejudice, where they question prejudices that cause covert racism through storytelling. The episode ends with tips for healing and suggestions for allies.

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What I'm 6:36 

Dating Horror Stories 23:17 

Unraveling White Prejudice 1:09:00

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In light of all the events of the past week, Shade and Rolake take a lighter route in the beginning of this episode and discuss what they're reading, watching and buying this week. The resulting isolation due to Corona virus has them reconsidering ex relationships, so they discuss the pros and cons of rekindling ex flings and give their experiences in doing so. In the main topic this week, they will share their views on George Floyd's murder and their own experiences with covert and overt racism. They end the episode with tips on books both black and non black people can read to learn more on racism. 

Episode Table of Contents  What I'm - 3:56 Dating Exes - 11:59 George Floyd and Racism - 35:30

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Join Shade and Rolake for a lively discussion on Megexit, what they've been up to this week and their thoughts on solitude and mindfulness in the time of covid. 

Episode Table of Contents Megexit - 13:13 Elaine Welteroh's Brooklyn Stoop Wedding - 47:56 What I'm Reading/ Watching/Buying- 59:22 Joy and Satisfaction in Isolation - 1:12:30

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