We all want to grow our career or business, but yet we feel stuck, stagnant, and unable to push through the glass ceiling.
Welcome to Let Me Speak To A Manager with Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, a podcast that is dedicated to teaching what it takes to build wealth and have fun doing it! Frank and Ian share entertaining business triumphs and failures that are both relatable and actionable.
At times eloquent and succinct, and at other points blunt and obnoxious, this is their unique riff on the big questions they had early in their careers. Learn golden nuggets as they talk about standing out in a company, leading people, building cultures, persuasion, marketing, management, and building businesses from scratch. Light on theory and heavy on practical experience, they weave personal, and often humorous, stories from their collective 50 years of business experience.
Frank Cava is an executive coach and the CEO of one of Richmond’s fastest-growing companies. Over his 25-year career, he has built and renovated more homes than tickets sold in an entire season by his Miami Dolphins. During his run from a Fortune 500 to founding Cava Companies, Frank led dozens of teams and built a reputation as a no-nonsense business consultant for small business owners and CEOs.
Ian Mathews is the CEO of 5on4 Group, a management training company, and consultancy. He is also the CRO of the technology startup Keep Technologies, a featured writer for Forbes, and a prolific capital raiser. In 2018, Ian retired from corporate America after serving two decades as a senior executive for two Fortune 500 companies, while moonlighting as an advisor for a tech startup with a $28-million exit. Ian’s daily newsletter is followed by more fans than you will find at home games of his beloved Detroit Lions.
Together, Frank and Ian will help you build a better success mindset, tackling topics from how to get a job, how to ask for a raise, landing a promotion, deciding when to leave your company, starting a business, leading people, becoming a better first-time manager, overcoming doubt and procrastination, and many more.
Whether you’re trying to climb up the career ladder, raise money for a corporation, or starting your own business, Frank and Ian’s unique, valuable, and relevant voice will help you achieve all of your goals. Join Let Me Speak To A Manager and get an inside track of how to position yourself so you can be attractive on the market.
What does it actually take to step away from your business for nearly a month without everything falling apart?
After returning from a 24-day trip through Spain and France, Frank shares what made it possible to truly unplug while his business continued to operate. Together, Ian and Frank explore why so many leaders struggle to disconnect, the psychology behind feeling "indispensable," and how building the right systems, rhythms, and trust can create real freedom.
They discuss delegation, leadership development, vacation guilt, executive burnout, PTO strategies, and why giving your team autonomy ultimately makes everyone stronger. Whether you're a business owner, executive, or aspiring leader, this conversation offers practical lessons on building a company and a career that doesn't depend on you being available every minute of every day.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
What can a 20-year-old comedy about a clueless news anchor teach us about success? More than you’d think.
Ian and Frank use Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy as a case study to explore why great ideas often begin as terrible first drafts, why working with people you genuinely enjoy matters, and how small wins create momentum for bigger opportunities. Along the way, they discuss Will Ferrell’s early career, creative persistence, embracing authenticity, learning from failure, and why finding your niche is often the fastest path to long-term success. Whether you’re building a business, leading a team, or chasing a creative dream, this episode is packed with lessons hiding behind one of comedy’s most quotable films.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Most businesses don't fail because of one catastrophic mistake… they slowly lose money through operational drift.
In this episode, Ian and Frank break down how hidden inefficiencies quietly creep into every business, from unnecessary expenses and delayed projects to bloated processes and outdated systems. Using stories from construction, real estate, GE, and the 2008 financial crisis, they explain why making money and keeping money are two completely different skills.
You'll learn how to identify operational drift, isolate the biggest problems, get team buy-in, eliminate waste without sacrificing growth, and rebuild your business using zero-based budgeting principles. Whether you're leading a small business or managing a large organization, this episode offers a practical framework for improving profitability, increasing efficiency, and creating a business that can weather any market.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Everyone says they hate office politics, but what if they’re misunderstanding the game?
In this episode, Ian and Frank argue that likability isn’t manipulation or brown-nosing; it’s one of the most valuable career skills you can develop.
Through stories from corporate America, professional sports, entrepreneurship, and their own careers, they explain why talented people often plateau while equally talented but more likable people continue to earn promotions, opportunities, and influence. This conversation explores why making people feel valued may be the greatest professional advantage of all.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Ian and Frank explore one of the biggest career questions people face:
How do you know when it’s time to stay…and when it’s time to move on?
Using stories from football, business, parenting, entrepreneurship, and decades of leadership experience, they discuss how to evaluate whether your work still energizes you or has become a constant source of frustration.
They introduce practical tools like auditing your calendar for energy-draining activities, separating whether it’s the job, the boss, or the company that’s making you miserable, and finding the intersection between what you’re great at, what you enjoy, and what the market rewards.
Whether you’re an employee, manager, or business owner, this episode offers a framework for building a career that’s sustainable not just financially, but emotionally.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Why Being Perfect Makes You a Worse Leader | The Prattfall Effect Explained
Should leaders always have the answers?
In this episode, Ian and Frank dive into one of psychology's most fascinating concepts: The Prattfall Effect. The idea that highly competent people actually become more likable when they occasionally reveal imperfections.
Through stories about Adele's Grammy performance, Elon Musk studying failed SpaceX launches, Seinfeld, Mad Men, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Domino's, and their own leadership mistakes, they explore why authenticity consistently outperforms perfection.
Whether you're leading a business, managing a sales team, speaking on stage, or building your personal brand, this conversation explains why vulnerability when paired with competence creates trust, loyalty, and stronger relationships.
In this episode you'll learn:
If you've ever felt like you needed to have all the answers as a leader, this episode may completely change your perspective.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Are you negotiating against real objections or imaginary ones?
In this episode, Ian and Frank break down one of the biggest mistakes salespeople make during uncertain markets: negotiating with ghosts.
Drawing on experiences from GE engineering sales, real estate investing, homebuilding, and sales management, they explore how fear, assumptions, and lack of confidence cause sales professionals to discount too early, create objections that don't exist, and lose deals before the customer ever says "no."
You'll learn:
✅ Why salespeople project past rejections onto new prospects
✅ How silence can become your most powerful negotiation tool
✅ The psychology behind loss aversion and buyer behavior
✅ Why confidence matters more than pricing in many sales conversations
✅ How managers can prevent sales teams from developing bad habits
✅ The "Fastball Rule" for maintaining the right mindset in sales
Whether you're in real estate, leadership, business development, entrepreneurship, or high-ticket sales, this episode will help you identify the mental traps that sabotage deals and teach you how top performers stay focused on value instead of fear.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Advice can change your life, but only if you're listening to the right people.
In this episode, Ian and Frank explore the best advice they've ever received, the worst advice they ignored, and the lessons that completely changed their careers.
They share personal stories about turning down traditional career paths, walking away from secure executive positions, leaving engineering and management tracks, and learning why even well-intentioned advice can send you in the wrong direction.
You'll learn:
• How to tell the difference between good advice and bad advice
• Why most advice reflects the other person's fears, not your potential
• The danger of taking career advice from people who've never taken the risks you want to take
• Why seeking multiple perspectives leads to better decisions
• How confidence and self-awareness help you trust your own instincts
• The role mentors, parents, coaches, and bosses play in shaping your future
Whether you're changing careers, starting a business, making a major life decision, or simply trying to figure out your next step, this conversation will help you become more intentional about who you listen to and when it's time to trust yourself instead.
Topics: career growth, leadership, mentorship, decision making, entrepreneurship, confidence, business, personal development, career advice, success mindset
00:00 Intro & Why Advice Matters
07:04 The Worst Advice Ian's Mom Ever Received
16:29 How Family Expectations Shape Your Career
24:08 When Good Intentions Become Bad Advice
33:08 The Conversation That Changed Frank's Career
40:01 Why You Need Outside Perspectives
48:58 Why Ian Ignored Everyone and Chose Sales
55:14 Four Rules for Taking Better Advice
1:04:31 Final Thoughts: Trust Yourself
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
In this episode, Ian and Frank tackle one of the most uncomfortable challenges in leadership, business, and relationships: telling people what they need to hear instead of what they want to hear.
Using the famous confrontation scene from Jerry Maguire as a launching point, they explore the difference between being “nice” and being truly “kind.” The conversation dives into why so many workplace conflicts stem from avoiding difficult conversations, how passive communication often becomes passive-aggressive communication, and why honest feedback is one of the greatest gifts a leader can give.
Along the way, Ian and Frank discuss radical candor, emotional decision-making, difficult conversations with employees and spouses, the dangers of “anxious niceness,” and why courage, not comfort, is what ultimately drives growth.
Key takeaway:
Nice tells people what they want to hear. Kind tells people what they need to hear.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Career Advancement: How to ask for a raise, land a promotion, and stand out in any company.
Leadership & Culture: Building high-performing teams and scalable business cultures.
Sales & Persuasion: Mastering the art of the deal and the psychology of marketing.
The Success Mindset: Overcoming procrastination and glass ceilings to achieve your goals.
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
The $100 MBA Show with Omar Zenhom
Think Fast Talk Smart: Communication Techniques with Matt Abrahams
My First Million with Sam Parr and Shaan Puri
The Learning Leader Show with Ryan Hawk
Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast
The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
In this episode, Frank and Ian unpack one of the biggest productivity killers in business and life: confusing 911s (true emergencies) with 411s (information only).
Using stories from parenting, business leadership, sales management, real estate, and even Greek mythology, they explore why so many teams operate in a constant state of urgency and how that creates anxiety, inefficiency, and poor decision-making.
The conversation covers the hidden "communication tax" that comes from constant interruptions, why firefighters often create more fires, how leaders accidentally train people to escalate everything, and the importance of creating clear protocols for what actually deserves immediate attention.
Frank shares practical frameworks used inside his companies to determine when issues should be elevated and when they should simply be handled. Ian challenges leaders to stop turning every problem into a management problem and instead empower people to solve issues before escalating them.
They also discuss deep work, eliminating distractions, setting boundaries, the concept of a "Ulysses Pact" to avoid temptation, and why many organizations suffer because they mistake motion for progress.
The result is a practical conversation about prioritization, leadership, communication, and protecting your attention in a world designed to constantly interrupt it.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
How do you change someone's mind when you don't have authority over them?
Ian and Frank break down the psychology of persuasion, influence, and leadership by examining stories from Steve Jobs, Apple, corporate leadership, sales, entrepreneurship, and their own careers.
They explore why smart people resist new ideas, how ego impacts decision-making, and practical techniques for influencing bosses, executives, customers, business partners, and even family members. Through examples ranging from Apple's development of the iPhone and Apple TV to real-world leadership and business situations, they reveal why the best leaders aren't surrounded by yes-men and why some of the most successful innovations happen because someone was willing to challenge the status quo.
Whether you're managing up, leading a team, selling an idea, or trying to navigate difficult conversations, this episode offers practical frameworks for gaining buy-in without creating conflict.
Topics include:
Why people overestimate their expertise
The Steve Jobs persuasion paradox
How to influence stubborn leaders
Managing up effectively
Using questions instead of arguments
The role of ego in decision-making
When to let people fail
Why disagreement can be a leadership superpower
How great leaders create cultures that challenge ideas
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
People tend to fall into two categories as decision-makers. The first group is maximizers, those who strive to make choices that will return the maximum benefit. Then there are the satisficers (made-up word blending satisfy and suffice), those whose choices are determined by more modest criteria and nothing more. In this episode, we look at both approaches' ramifications and reflect on critical decisions we've made in our own careers.
In this episode:
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Why do smart people make terrible decisions?
Because humans are wired to mistake randomness for patterns.
In this episode, Ian and Frank break down:
• Why one bad month doesn’t mean someone is failing
• How managers overreact to short-term results
• The psychology behind “hot streaks” and panic decisions
• Why great leaders focus on process instead of emotion
• The dangers of survivorship bias, recency bias, and emotional thinking
• How investing, business, sports, and even relationships are impacted by randomness
Using stories ranging from Miguel Cabrera’s “bad” season start, blackjack strategy, Bitcoin hype cycles, baseball statistics, real estate speculation, and even 9/11 travel psychology, this conversation explores how people get trapped by emotional decision-making and short-term thinking.
If you’ve ever:
• Panicked after a setback
• Chased hype after someone else succeeded
• Overcorrected too quickly
• Wondered if you’re in a slump or just stuck in your head
…this episode is for you.
The best leaders don’t react emotionally to randomness.
They slow down, study the process, and make decisions based on patterns over time.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
In this episode, Ian and Frank break down the real difference between goals and resolutions, and why most people never achieve the things they say they want.
Using stories from sports, business, leadership, sales, fitness, and personal growth, they unpack how elite performers reverse engineer success by focusing on measurable actions, process goals, and momentum instead of vague ambition.
From John Daly vs Bryson DeChambeau, Kobe Bryant vs Bo Jackson, and P90X to GE leadership lessons, the conversation explores:
The biggest takeaway:
You don’t need to have the entire roadmap figured out. You just need to know the next move.
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Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Ian and Frank tackle one of the most uncomfortable truths in business and life: success still requires hard work, and most people simply aren’t willing to do it.
Through personal stories, brutal feedback from real-world marketing, and examples from figures like Dana White and Seth Rogen, they break down why “hustle culture” has gotten a bad reputation and what’s actually true about winning in today’s world.
They explore:
The myth of shortcuts and “silver bullets”
Why consistency beats talent over time
The psychological reality of wanting to quit
The compounding effect of effort across years
How to know if your path is even worth the grind
The core message is simple but challenging:
If you don’t quit, you still have a chance. If you do, you don’t.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
This episode breaks down one of the most misunderstood ideas in business and personal growth: commitment.
Using stories from the NFL, entrepreneurship, and history, Ian and Frank explore the difference between reversible and irreversible decisions and why most people get it completely wrong. From the Miami Dolphins’ repeated rebuild failures to the historical moment of “crossing the Rubicon,” they unpack what it really means to go all in.
They challenge the idea that most decisions are life-or-death, arguing instead that people often overestimate risk while simultaneously undercommitting to what actually matters. The result? Stalled progress, wasted potential, and frustration.
Through personal stories of quitting stable careers, investing hundreds of thousands into failed and successful ventures, and building businesses from scratch, they reveal a hard truth:
Most people aren’t stuck… they’re just unwilling to fully commit or fully pivot.
If you’ve ever felt paralyzed by a decision, unsure whether to go all in, or stuck in something that isn’t working, this episode will help you reframe risk, commitment, and what it actually takes to move forward.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
Why do people fixate on one mistake when failure is almost always the result of many small breakdowns?
In this episode, Ian and Frank break down how recency bias and blame culture sabotage performance in business, leadership, and life. Using legendary sports moments like the Bill Buckner error, the Buffalo Bills’ Super Bowl loss, and Chris Webber’s infamous timeout, they reveal a deeper truth: it’s rarely the final mistake that costs you… it’s everything leading up to it.
This episode is a masterclass for leaders, managers, and high performers on how to shift from a victim mindset to a growth mindset, refocus on what’s actually in your control, and build consistent momentum using the “zero to one” principle.
You’ll learn how top performers avoid blame traps, how great managers redirect teams toward ownership, and why small daily actions matter more than big, emotional reactions.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, frustrated, or tempted to blame circumstances, this episode will reset your perspective and give you practical tools to take back control.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
This episode breaks down the lost art of saying no in sales and leadership, especially in tough markets.
Ian and Frank explore how easy markets create bad habits, where teams rely on discounts, exceptions, and weak communication instead of skill. As conditions tighten, those habits get exposed.
Using examples from The Godfather, Rocky III, and real-world sales scenarios, they unpack:
👉 Strong salespeople don’t avoid tension. They navigate it with clarity, conviction, and control.
Got suggestions for future episodes or advice for the hosts of this podcast? Email ian@5on4.group to get in touch with Ian and Frank.
Interested in group or individual management and executing training with Ian Mathews? Check out 5on4 Group’s Leadership Essentials: 12-Week Course.
Interested in investing in one of Frank’s upcoming projects? Check out Cava’s upcoming projects and investment opportunities and contact us here.
Let Me Speak To A Manager is the definitive podcast for management training, career navigation, and high-stakes negotiation. Hosted by Frank Cava and Ian Mathews, this show pulls back the curtain on what it takes to build wealth, lead elite teams, and master the psychology of business.
Frank (CEO of Cava Companies) and Ian (CEO of 5on4 Group) bypass the fluff of "business school theory" to give you raw, actionable strategies from their 50 years of combined experience in Fortune 500 executive leadership and entrepreneurship.
Each week, we dive into:
Whether you are a first-time manager, an aspiring executive, or a founder building from scratch, Frank and Ian offer a unique, blunt, and often humorous "riff" on the triumphs and failures of the corporate world. Join us to get the inside track on how to make yourself the most valuable person in the room.
If you listen to any of the following shows, we are sure that you will like ours too!
In this episode of Let Me Speak to a Manager, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava break down a powerful leadership moment featuring Steve Jobs responding to a blunt and public criticism during a 1997 developer conference.
At the time, Apple was struggling, far from the powerhouse it is today. What followed was a masterclass in handling difficult questions, managing ego, and leading with clarity under pressure.
They unpack:
This episode is a must-listen for leaders, entrepreneurs, and managers looking to improve communication, decision-making, and executive presence in high-pressure situations.
In this episode of Let Me Speak to a Manager, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava break down the critical difference between being a vendor vs. being an advisor in sales, and why it determines your income, influence, and long-term success.
They explore how most salespeople fall into the trap of transactional selling (price, features, and speed) instead of building trust through consultative, problem-solving conversations.
Key takeaways include:
This episode is a must-listen for anyone in sales, leadership, real estate, or business, looking to increase conversions, build trust, and stand out in a crowded market.
Chapters
00:00 March Madness and Friendly Competition
02:38 Vendors vs. Advisors: Understanding Sales Roles
10:16 Navigating Market Noise and Customer Trust
18:05 Building Credibility and Trust in Sales
22:14 Trust and Transparency in Real Estate
24:41 The Paradox of Choice and Buyer Overwhelm
27:42 The Advisor vs. Vendor Mindset
30:29 The Art of Questioning in Sales
33:35 Building Trust Through Intimacy
36:51 Understanding the Cost of Inaction
39:28 Value Beyond Price in Real Estate Transactions
In this episode of Let Me Speak to a Manager, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava break down a real leadership moment that went sideways and what it reveals about personal brand, feedback, and self-awareness in the workplace.
After a maintenance manager publicly criticizes a young employee over a minor mistake, the conversation unpacks the difference between being direct vs. destructive, and how leaders can deliver tough feedback without damaging trust.
They dive into:
This episode is a masterclass in leadership communication, emotional intelligence, and workplace dynamics, with real-world examples you can apply immediately.
In this episode, we dive into one of the most common frustrations leaders face: why employees don’t operate with the same urgency as business owners.
New managers often struggle to motivate their teams, move projects faster, and create accountability across an organization. But urgency isn’t created through pressure or micromanagement. It’s built through clarity, leadership, and shared meaning.
Using stories from business, leadership, and the near collapse of Ford Motor Company, we break down the real reason organizations slow down and what great leaders do differently.
In this conversation, we explore:
• Why owners and employees experience urgency differently
• The leadership mistake that kills accountability inside teams
• How transparency changes organizational behavior
• What struggling companies often hide from leadership
• Why dashboards and visibility drive performance
• The difference between fear-driven urgency and mission-driven urgency
If you’re a manager, founder, executive, or team leader, this episode will help you understand how to build a culture where people take ownership, move faster, and stay aligned with the mission of the company.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Reception
03:08 Sense of Urgency in Business
05:53 Dashboard Management and Performance Tracking
09:09 Identifying and Addressing Sales Challenges
12:11 Empowering Teams and Autonomy
15:08 Collaborative Problem Solving
18:07 Lessons in Sales and Client Engagement
22:07 Designing Homes with Client Vision
25:14 Empowering Real Estate Professionals
26:55 Building Trust and Brand Protection
30:06 Managing Metrics and Team Dynamics
33:35 Creating Meaningful Motivation
40:18 Upholding Standards and Continuous Improvement
In this episode, the guys break down what the Super Bowl halftime controversy reveals about branding, audience targeting, and the risk of alienating your core customers. From music and marketing to Budweiser’s brand reset, they debate whether companies should chase new audiences or double down on loyalty.
The conversation pivots into masculinity and discipline, from pull-up progress to why physical fitness still matters in leadership, before diving into AI disruption and a bold prediction about the future of OpenAI vs Google and the battle between ChatGPT and Gemini.
They close by unpacking how they raised $2.5M from investors, the importance of track record, and what young entrepreneurs need to understand before asking anyone for capital.
It’s part cultural commentary, part business strategy, and part real estate playbook.
Chapters
00:00 Super Bowl Halftime Show Debate
06:14 Health and Food Industry Commentary
10:22 Fitness and Family Engagement
14:03 Budweiser's Marketing Comeback
20:01 AI and OpenAI's Future
24:40 Relevance of Super Bowl Ads in Digital Age
25:45 The NBA vs NFL: A Christmas Day Showdown
28:29 Successful Capital Raising: Insights and Strategies
31:43 The Importance of Track Record in Raising Capital
39:26 Finding the Right Partners for Investment
47:43 Understanding Hard Money Lending and Its Risks
50:43 Creative Deal Structures for Investors
56:12 Why Richmond? The Case for Local Investment
What do you do when your competition has more talent, more resources, and more star power?
In this episode, we break down how Team USA beat a deeper, more skilled Canadian roster, and why it has nothing to do with luck. This wasn’t about matching talent. It was about roster construction, identity, grit, and refusing to play the incumbent’s game.
We unpack:
If you’re building a team, competing in a tight market, or trying to disrupt someone bigger than you, this episode is your blueprint.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Banter
02:25 The Rise of American Hockey
10:49 Team Construction and Strategy
18:46 The Importance of Goaltending
26:20 The Emotional Impact of Team Dynamics
32:24 Lessons from Sports and Life
38:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
What if your life (or business) feels bumpy because one wheel is flat?
In this episode, Ian and Frank introduce the “Wheel of Life” assessment tool, a simple framework to evaluate eight key areas: career, finances, health, family, relationships, personal growth, social life, and attitude.
They break down how imbalance in just one area can create friction everywhere else in business, leadership, and at home. You’ll learn how to self-assess honestly, identify blind spots, and make smarter trade-offs with your time and energy.
If you’re a business owner, leader, or high-performer feeling stretched thin, this episode gives you a practical tool to reset and refocus for the year ahead.
What does “your price is too high” really mean?
In this episode, veteran sales leaders Ian Mathews and Frank Cava break down one of the most misunderstood moments in selling and buying: price resistance. Drawing from decades of experience in real estate, sales management, and negotiation, they explain why price objections are rarely about money and almost always about value, comparison, fear, or habit.
The conversation explores how great salespeople separate price from value, why knowing your competition is non-negotiable, and how asking better questions disarms resistance without discounting. From real estate and car buying to product sales and services, this episode offers timeless, practical strategies for navigating negotiations with confidence.
Listeners will learn how to identify what customers really mean when they say something is “too expensive,” how buyers often use price as a negotiating tactic, and why complaining about price doesn’t mean someone won’t buy. Whether you’re selling, buying, or leading a sales team, this episode reframes price conversations as opportunities rather than threats.
Chapter
00:00 Cold Open – “Your Price Is Too High”
00:18 Haircut, Glasses & Negotiation Banter
01:14 Buyers Have the Advantage in Slow Markets
02:00 Commodity vs Differentiated Products
03:30 Why People Overvalue Their Own House
04:46 Knowing Your Market Better Than the Seller
06:15 Salesman vs Buyer – Different Skill Sets
07:50 The First Rule: Know Your Competition
10:30 Product, Placement & Wrong Buyers
12:33 What “Your Price Is Too High” Really Means
14:50 The George Brett Negotiation Story
17:30 “I Can’t Afford It” – What’s Really Behind It
18:35 The Whole Foods Price Effect
19:45 Price vs Cost – They’re Not the Same
20:30 The Need Behind the Need
21:36 The Best First Response to Price Objections
24:30 Feedback Is a Gift
25:18 Competing Against Toll Brothers
27:45 Negotiating Trucks & Text Tactics
30:10 Isolate Price from Value
31:55 Final Framework: How to Handle Price Objections
In this episode of Let Me Speak to a Manager, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava break down why sales motivation collapses in tough markets and why the best salespeople actually thrive when things get hard.
Drawing from decades of experience across real estate, lending, construction, and enterprise sales, the guys unpack the psychological forces behind procrastination, learned helplessness, and burnout, including expectancy theory, intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation, and the progress principle.
They explain why most sales teams focus on the wrong metrics during downturns, how fear and uncertainty shut down performance, and how elite performers reframe success using micro-wins, controllable behaviors, and skill-building.
If you’re a salesperson struggling in a slow market or a manager trying to motivate a team, this episode offers practical frameworks, real-world examples, and leadership lessons that separate professionals from fair-weather performers.
What happens when elite leadership stops evolving?
In this episode, we break down one of the most revealing leadership case studies in modern sports and business: the New England Patriots’ post–Bill Belichick transformation. What followed wasn’t just a coaching change, but a cultural reset that offers powerful lessons for CEOs, founders, nonprofit leaders, managers, and anyone responsible for people.
We explore how long-term success can quietly harden culture, why fear-based leadership eventually fails, and what it really means to fire a legend. From ownership accountability to locker-room trust, this episode examines the difference between authority and influence, control and connection, legacy and adaptability.
The conversation culminates in a practical leadership framework, the 4 H’s: History, Heroes, Heartbreak, and Hope, giving leaders a clear lens for rebuilding culture, restoring trust, and creating environments where people actually want to perform.
If you’re leading a team, scaling a business, navigating change, or questioning whether success has come at a hidden cost, this episode will challenge how you define leadership, culture, and growth.
Topics include:
Leadership development, organizational culture, business leadership lessons, sports leadership, management strategy, firing a CEO, trust-based leadership, emotional intelligence, team culture, mindset, and personal growth.
Why do successful companies lose urgency, and how do elite leaders bring it back without creating burnout?
In this episode, Ian and Frank break down the leadership psychology of urgency, explaining why urgency often fades as businesses grow, teams start winning, and comfort replaces pressure. Drawing lessons from the NFL, Silicon Valley, Google, and high-stakes operating environments, they explore how the best leaders create urgency through clarity, transparency, and accountability, not fear or micromanagement.
The conversation dives into why pressure sharpens focus, how existential threats drive innovation, and why leaders lose momentum when they become disconnected from frontline reality. Ian and Frank also unpack common management mistakes around bonuses, incentives, and motivation, and explain why most teams don’t lack urgency; they lack context and mission alignment.
This episode is packed with practical leadership advice for founders, executives, managers, and operators who want to improve team performance, accountability, decision-making, and organizational momentum. If you’re leading a company, managing people, or trying to rebuild urgency in a complacent organization, this episode explains how serious leaders think about urgency, pressure, and long-term performance.
Want to dig into this content more? Download Ian's notes HERE
00:00 – Leadership urgency explained: why it matters
01:45 – Why urgency disappears when teams start winning
04:10 – Comfort, complacency, and declining leadership standards
06:50 – Google, AI, and how existential threats create urgency
10:15 – Pressure in leadership: when it works and when it fails
14:10 – Why leaders can’t create urgency from the office
17:45 – Transparency, trust, and accountability in management
20:30 – Bonuses, incentives, and motivation mistakes leaders make
24:40 – “No crying in the casino”: pressure and performance
27:30 – Connecting daily work to mission and organizational purpose
30:45 – Why teams don’t lack urgency — they lack context
33:20 – How to build urgency without burnout or fear
36:10 – Final leadership lessons on urgency and momentum
Why do prospects suddenly disappear after showing interest, and how do top performers prevent it from happening in the first place?
In this episode, Ian and Frank break down the real reasons salespeople, real estate agents, and operators get ghosted, and why it’s almost never about follow-up frequency or buyer rudeness. Instead, ghosting is usually a breakdown in commitment, clarity, and process long before the deal goes quiet.
The guys unpack the psychology behind buyer hesitation, explain the seven levels of commitment, and reveal where most sales conversations leak momentum. From real-world war stories to practical frameworks used by elite closers, this episode teaches you how to maintain control of the process, close loops properly, and follow up with confidence, without sounding desperate or annoying.
Whether you’re in sales, real estate, leadership, or client-facing work, this conversation will change how you think about follow-up, objections, and long-term deal flow.
👇 Drop a comment with the best insight you took away or the follow-up line that’s worked best for you.
Download the Slides from today's episode
00:00 – Intro & Banter
Setting the tone and introducing the problem of getting ghosted in sales.
01:42 – Why Getting Ghosted Feels Personal (But Isn’t)
Why most people misinterpret silence as rejection.
03:10 – The Real Reason Prospects Disappear
Where deals actually break down before follow-up even starts.
06:15 – A Story from Iraq: Commitment vs Silence
Frank shares a powerful story that reframes what “ghosting” really means.
09:40 – Why “Just Following Up” Kills Deals
How weak language signals lack of authority and certainty.
12:55 – The Seven Levels of Commitment Explained
Why “I’ll call you” isn’t a close — and what actually counts as commitment.
16:20 – Where Sales Conversations Leak Control
The most common moments momentum quietly disappears.
18:45 – How Top Closers Lock the Next Step
Simple process changes that prevent ghosting before it happens.
21:30 – Follow-Up Timing: 12 Hours, 72 Hours, and Beyond
When to reach out — and when to stop chasing.
24:10 – The Psychology of Buyer Hesitation
Fear, uncertainty, and why silence feels safer than saying no.
27:05 – How to Recover a “Dead” Deal
What to say when a prospect has already gone quiet.
31:35 – The 7-Word Email That Gets Replies (Chris Voss)
A counterintuitive follow-up line that reopens conversations.
33:55 – Sales Is About Closing Loops, Not Chasing People
Why control, clarity, and leadership matter more than persistence.
36:20 – Lessons for Managers & Team Leaders
How to train teams to avoid ghosting at scale.
38:30 – Final Thoughts & Takeaways
Why follow-up is a leadership skill, not a reminder system.
In this episode, Frank and Ian break down the most overlooked skill in sales, leadership, and communication: the ability to read people and adapt your approach.
Too many salespeople, managers, and founders rely on scripts, tactics, and “best practices” without understanding who they’re actually talking to. The result? Ghosted deals, stalled conversations, frustrated teams, and missed opportunities.
Frank and Ian explain why traditional sales training is failing in today’s market, why the Golden Rule doesn’t work in business, and how understanding social styles and personality types can dramatically improve sales performance, leadership effectiveness, and relationship-building.
They walk through the four core social styles: Driver, Expressive, Amiable, and Analytic, and show how mismatched communication styles quietly kill deals, create tension on teams, and sabotage leadership credibility.
This episode is a practical guide for anyone in sales, entrepreneurship, management, or leadership who wants to communicate more effectively, ask better questions, and close more deals without being pushy or manipulative.
🧠 What You’ll Learn in This Episode
Why modern sales training focuses on the wrong things
How to read people before you try to sell or lead them
Why “treat people how you want to be treated” fails in business
The four social styles that influence every buying decision
How personality mismatches silently kill deals
Why execution beats tactics when communication breaks down
How great leaders adapt instead of forcing their style
Why asking the right questions matters more than pitching
⏱️ Show Notes & Timestamps
00:00 – Banter and episode setup
Frank and Ian set the tone and tee up a conversation about sales, leadership, and communication.
00:28 – Why sales training is broken right now
Why focusing on closing tactics instead of people creates ghosting, friction, and lost deals.
01:55 – Why the Golden Rule doesn’t work in sales or leadership
Treating people how you want to be treated fails when they don’t think like you.
03:40 – Selling vs. reading the room
Why awareness beats scripts in high-stakes conversations.
06:15 – The cost of misreading people in business
How personality mismatches quietly sabotage deals and teams.
09:20 – Introduction to social styles
An overview of the four core social styles and how they show up at work.
11:18 – Driver personalities explained
Fast-paced, decisive, and results-focused — and how they unintentionally steamroll others.
14:05 – Expressive personalities explained
Vision-driven, energetic communicators who thrive on ideas and momentum.
17:30 – Amiable personalities explained
Relationship-first thinkers who value trust, harmony, and consistency.
20:45 – Analytic personalities explained
Detail-oriented decision-makers who prioritize logic, data, and process.
25:10 – Michael Jordan vs. Ted Lasso
A powerful metaphor for understanding personality clashes in sales and leadership.
27:02 – If you can’t read people, nothing else matters
Why social awareness is the foundation of every successful sale.
27:47 – Doing everything right and still losing the sale
How better questions and adaptability create control without pressure.
29:30 – Final thoughts on adaptive leadership and communication
Why great leaders learn to flex instead of forcing outcomes.
In this episode, Frank and Ian unpack the real return on investing in yourself through conferences, coaching, and focused mastery. What starts as classic banter turns into a grounded conversation about why most people stall out in their careers, how clarity beats overwhelm, and why narrowing your lane is the fastest path to long-term success.
Frank shares how nearly a decade of attending the same conference created compounding returns, from strategic debt solutions for ADUs to high-trust relationships that only come with time and repetition. Ian reflects on his own journey, from corporate transition to finding his investing edge, and why his biggest breakthroughs always followed moments where he stopped trying to learn “on the cheap.”
Together, they explore FOMO, niche dominance, long-tail thinking, and why saying no to most opportunities is the hidden skill behind outsized returns. The episode closes with a reminder that mastery is built slowly, intentionally, and by consistently reinvesting in what you do best.
00:00 Banter
01:40 Conferences, perception, and audience awareness
03:00 Why conferences feel uncomfortable (and that’s normal)
05:45 The overwhelm problem and choosing the “right” room
08:30 Why expectations determine conference ROI
09:50 How veterans actually use conferences
11:00 A real example that changed business direction
14:05 The ADU lending problem and a breakthrough conversation
17:45 Why most people stop investing in their craft
20:55 Becoming world-class by narrowing your lane
22:15 The long tail, niches, and finding your people
25:45 Lifelong learning and delayed returns
27:35 One relationship can change everything
29:30 FOMO, discipline, and saying no
31:00 Why focus beats diversification
32:40 Fake business trips and Vegas jokes
33:30 Final thoughts and closing
Summary
Ian and Frank explore the nuances of communication, particularly in the context of marriage, sales, and management. They discuss the importance of assertiveness, the impact of status threats, and the effectiveness of self-deprecation and humor in easing tough conversations. The duo emphasizes the need for psychological safety and the use of accusation audits to foster open dialogue. They also highlight the significance of opt-in questions to empower others in discussions, ultimately concluding that effective communication is crucial for successful management and relationships.
Takeaways
Marriage is a living, breathing thing, not a noun.
Assertiveness is key in uncomfortable conversations.
Sales requires asking personal questions delicately.
Status threats can lead to defensive reactions.
Self-deprecation can ease tough conversations.
Humor can lower status and create rapport.
Accusation audits can diffuse tension.
Creating psychological safety encourages honest feedback.
Opt-in questions empower the other party.
Effective communication is essential for management.
Chapters
00:00 The Petty Argument: A Marriage Story
02:54 Assertiveness in Communication
05:44 Sales and Management Dynamics
08:58 Status Threats in Conversations
10:04 The Power of Self-Deprecation
12:33 Cunningham's Law in Coaching
30:15 Mastering Negotiation Tactics
35:45 The Art of Accusation Audits
39:47 Creating Psychological Safety in Conversations
44:58 Navigating Tough Feedback
50:45 The Importance of Adaptability in Management
CONNECT WITH US
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Frank Cava is the CEO of one of Richmond’s fastest-growing companies, an executive coach, and he devours red meat like an apex predator in the Serengeti.
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Ian Mathews is the CEO of 5on4 Group, a management training company, and consultancy he formed just because he liked the kitschy hockey title.
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In this conversation, Ian and Frank explore a variety of themes ranging from travel experiences and culinary adventures to the legacy of Warren Buffett. They discuss the importance of public speaking, the value of handwritten communication, and the lessons learned from Omaha. The conversation also delves into the significance of relationships in business, reflections on longevity and luck, and the role of cash flow in business success. As they wrap up, they emphasize the importance of humility, kindness, and the need for effective succession planning in organizations.
Chapters
00:00 Travel Tales and Unexpected Adventures
02:48 Warren Buffett's Final Shareholder Letter
05:51 The Importance of Handwritten Communication
08:39 Lessons from Omaha and Relationships
11:46 The Power of Humility and Gratitude
14:41 Coca-Cola's New Coke Fiasco and PR Mastery
33:49 The Art of Humble Communication
37:25 Nostalgia and Marketing Mastery
41:15 Leadership and Legacy
44:01 Luck, Longevity, and Humility
47:01 The Weight of Responsibility
55:19 The Impact of Relative Deprivation
58:09 A Vision for the Future
59:59 Lessons from Life and Legacy
CONNECT WITH US
Website - https://www.letmespeaktoamanagerpodcast.com/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/letmespeaktoamanager/
Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@speaktoamanagerpodcast
Frank Cava is the CEO of one of Richmond’s fastest-growing companies, an executive coach, and he devours red meat like an apex predator in the Serengeti.
https://www.youtube.com/c/FrankCavaOfficial
https://www.instagram.com/frank.b.cava/
https://www.facebook.com/FrankCava
https://twitter.com/Frank_Cava
https://www.tiktok.com/@therealfrankcava
https://frankcava.com/
Ian Mathews is the CEO of 5on4 Group, a management training company, and consultancy he formed just because he liked the kitschy hockey title.
https://www.instagram.com/ianbmathews/
https://www.facebook.com/ian.mathews.3572
https://twitter.com/ianbmathews
Episode Summary
In this episode, Frank and Ian dig into the age-old entrepreneurial dilemma: when do you share your ideas, and when do you keep them close to the vest?
Frank wrestles with whether to present a cutting-edge affordable dwelling unit (ADU) investment strategy to his mastermind peers — a move that could either elevate his brand or arm his competitors. Together, Ian and Frank explore how business leaders balance transparency, competition, abundance mindset, and strategic advantage.
Along the way, they talk about real estate innovation, honest leadership, giving and receiving feedback, and the value of shooting people straight — even when it’s uncomfortable.
This episode is a raw, candid conversation on trusting your instincts, leading with integrity, and playing the long game in both business and relationships.
Show Notes & Chapters
00:00 – Dodgers, Jerseys, and Modelo Moments
Frank shares a funny story from a Dodgers game — and Ian calls him out for “team-hopping.”
01:20 – The Struggle: To Share or Not to Share
Frank preps for a mastermind talk and debates whether to reveal his ADU investment strategy publicly.
02:30 – Inside the Mastermind Room
Frank explains who’s in the audience, the dynamic between investors and operators, and what’s at stake.
04:00 – The 12% Return Question
Ian shares a conversation with a potential investor about why the deal’s strong ROI is legit — not “too good to be true.”
05:40 – Competitors, Capital, and Calculated Risks
Should Frank reveal details of his financing structure, or will that open the door to copycats?
07:20 – The Opportunity in Collaboration
Frank considers whether sharing could actually attract partnerships and expansion opportunities.
09:00 – Why Execution Beats Ideas
Ian argues that even if others hear the idea, few will execute it with the same rigor.
10:30 – The Abundance Mindset Shift
Frank and Ian discuss why there’s enough opportunity for everyone — and why fear-based decisions limit growth.
14:50 – Leadership and Scarcity in the Workplace
Ian shares parallels between hoarding information in corporate settings and limiting team growth.
17:00 – Shooting People Straight
Frank explains his “operating system” of honesty, even when it’s uncomfortable — and why people thank him for it.
18:50 – Radical Feedback & Real Coaching
Ian breaks down why leaders must tell the truth, give direct feedback, and stop avoiding hard conversations.
22:00 – Feedback Is a Gift
The duo wraps up with lessons on authenticity, leadership, and listening — featuring an unforgettable line from a mentor:
“The good Lord blessed you with one mouth and two ears for a reason. Shut your mouth and listen.”
Key Takeaways
Protecting your ideas often stems from fear, not strategy.
Execution is what separates winners from imitators.
Honest feedback builds stronger teams and relationships.
Abundance creates opportunity; scarcity creates isolation.
Being known for integrity is the ultimate brand advantage.
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Summary
In this conversation, Ian & Frank jump into the intersection of gambling, organized crime, and sports integrity, particularly focusing on the recent NBA scandal involving players and the mafia. The guys discuss the cultural significance of gambling in America, the portrayal of the mafia in films like The Godfather, and the implications of legalized gambling on sports integrity. They reflect on the consequences of poor decisions made by athletes and the ongoing challenges of maintaining the integrity of sports in a gambling-driven environment.
Takeaways
Gambling has deep roots in American culture, often viewed as harmless.
The Godfather movies provide a nostalgic lens on organized crime.
Recent NBA scandals highlight the risks of gambling in sports.
Cheating in sports undermines the integrity of the game.
The mafia has historically capitalized on gambling as a vice.
Legalized gambling has blurred the lines of sports integrity.
Athletes face significant consequences for poor decisions related to gambling.
The expansion of gambling markets increases the temptation to cheat.
Maintaining the integrity of sports is crucial for their value.
The future of sports may hinge on effective regulation of gambling.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Gambling and the Mafia
02:53 The Godfather Movies: A Deep Dive
05:42 The Evolution of Gambling in America
08:52 NBA Scandal: Cheating and Integrity
11:53 The Consequences of Bad Decisions
14:35 The Blurred Lines of Legal Gambling
17:47 The Mafia's Adaptation to Changing Times
23:21 The Evolution of Sports Betting
25:17 The Temptation of Cheating in Sports
27:09 The Impact of Legalized Gambling on Sports
29:02 The Future of Fair Competition in Sports
33:37 The Six Stages of Entrepreneurship and Sports Integrity
38:45 The Consequences of Cheating in Sports
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💡 Episode SummaryIn this episode, what starts as a lighthearted chat about AI filters turns into a powerful conversation about originality, risk-taking, and what it means to build a life that actually fits you.
The guys reflect on their own early career decisions — Frank choosing homebuilding over commercial construction despite ridicule, Ian walking away from engineering to pursue sales when everyone told him not to — and how those moments of going against the grain shaped everything that came next.
They also unpack why conformity feels comfortable, why discomfort often signals growth, and how cultural “waves” — from fashion to business trends — reveal when it’s time to zig while everyone else is zagging.
By the end, you’ll walk away with a better understanding of what it takes to build a career, business, and life that are tailor-made — not mass-produced.
🧭 Key Themes Originality vs. Automation – Why AI-made content (and AI-made thinking) is making individuality more valuable than ever. * Career Crossroads – Choosing a path that fits you, even when mentors or peers don’t understand. * Comfort & Growth – How staying too close to “home” — physically or mentally — can stunt your evolution. * Cultural Cycles – Why what’s “old-fashioned” often becomes revolutionary again. * Significance & Variety* – Two core human needs that drive our craving for purpose and difference.
🧩 Memorable Moments (45:30) Frank jokes about being an “AI bot” who kept his real-life weight — proving authenticity is the new flex. * (47:50) Ian vents about how LinkedIn’s turned into a scroll of sameness — “If everyone’s using the same tool to write the same thing, what are we even reading?” * (49:40) Frank’s story of choosing homebuilding over the “respectable” commercial route, and getting mocked for it. * (52:14) Ian’s parallel story: rejecting an engineering cubicle job to chase growth in sales. * (55:40) A hilarious riff on NBA fashion — why the one player dressing like it’s 1988 would now stand out the most. * (1:03:00) Frank’s stat: 80% of Americans live within 100 miles of where they grew up — and why the great innovators almost never do. * (1:07:18)* The banker who told Frank, “What the hell are you doing?” when he bought homes for $18K — and how that “crazy” decision became a career-defining move.
Episode SummaryIan and Frank explore the fleeting nature of life’s best moments and why we so often miss them while they’re happening. From playoff baseball traditions and movie outings with their kids to nostalgic sports memories, the conversation underscores that “the good old days” aren’t just behind us—they’re happening right now. Along the way, they debate whether teams should celebrate small victories, pull in lessons from business and psychology, and remind us that presence and gratitude turn everyday moments into something worth remembering.
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Episode summary
Ian and Frank respond to the assassination of Charlie Kirk as a springboard to a broader conversation about polarization, the collapse of nuance, and why critical thinking matters — especially in business and leadership. They trace cultural roots (standardized testing, social media echo chambers), examine groupthink in organizations, and debate the real forces behind “cancel culture” and free speech — corporate incentives, algorithmic silos, and our own unwillingness to hold multiple truths at once. The episode closes with practical challenges for managers: hire dissent, reward clear thinking, and teach people to explain assumptions.
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Episode highlights
0:00 — Host banter & episode warning
1:39 — Context: Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the polarized public response
4:47 — The episode’s central question: where has nuance gone?
11:11 — Historical roots: standardized testing, Scantron, and one-right-answer thinking
15:25 — Engineering exams vs. multiple-choice: why process matters more than a single right answer
19:19 — How education access and class shape critical thinking opportunities
21:09 — Cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, and why people double down
26:32 — Groupthink in companies and the cost of lacking dissent
29:49 — Free speech vs. corporate economics (Jimmy Kimmel example)
42:43 — Parenting and gatekeeping in the age of instant, graphic news
46:24 — Final takeaway: critical thinking and clear articulation are future currency
Key takeaways for listeners
Nuance is a skill that must be taught and practiced — not assumed.
Organizations succeed when they welcome dissent and surface assumptions.
Social media + algorithmic feeds amplify confirmation bias; be intentional about diverse inputs.
Leaders should prioritize process (how people think) over binary correctness.
For parents and managers: act as gatekeepers of what people in your care consume and model curiosity.
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Episode SummaryIn this episode, Ian and Frank kick things off with some lighthearted banter about their fantasy football league before diving deep into what makes organizations thrive—or fail—both in sports and business. Using the Miami Dolphins and other NFL franchises as case studies, they explore how ownership, culture, leadership, and decision-making trickle down to affect long-term performance.
Frank unpacks decades of dysfunction in Miami, while Ian contrasts it with the Detroit Lions’ recent cultural turnaround. Together, they draw sharp parallels between failing sports franchises and struggling companies: meddling owners, poor alignment between leadership, lack of cultural buy-in, and short-term decision-making.
From NFL coaching graveyards to career lessons about choosing stability over hazard pay, this episode blends humor, storytelling, and practical takeaways for leaders in any field.
ShownotesTopics Covered:
Takeaways for Leaders & Listeners* Culture eats strategy: No amount of talent or money can overcome a dysfunctional system. * Leadership alignment is everything: GMs, coaches, and executives must share vision and values. * Ownership matters: Meddling or absentee owners derail long-term success. * Hazard pay is real: Struggling companies (or teams) often lure talent with big checks, but rarely offer long-term growth. * Do your due diligence: Before joining an organization, look past the paycheck—evaluate culture, leadership, and history.
Chapters
00:00Fantasy Football Rivalry
03:08The State of the Miami Dolphins
05:56Coaching Challenges in Miami
08:48The Importance of Ownership in Sports
11:35Career Decisions and Company Culture
14:56The Detroit Lions' Turnaround
17:43The Role of Management in Team Success
20:49Baker Mayfield's Journey
23:41The Impact of Culture on Player Performance
26:51The Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Success
29:37Understanding Team Dynamics
32:37The Risks of Hiring Star Players
35:32Long-Term Strategies for Success
38:48The Future of NFL Coaching
41:40Closing Thoughts and Reflections
In this conversation, Ian and Frank delve into their real estate investment strategies, particularly focusing on the development of accessory dwelling units (ADUs) as a solution to housing shortages. The discussion also covers the challenges of navigating permits, structuring investments for optimal returns, and the significance of customer service in the rental market. Overall, the conversation highlights the intersection of real estate, community service, and economic opportunity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Conference Insights
02:52 Education and Job Readiness
05:44 Real Estate Deals and Investment Strategies
08:46 Affordable Housing and ADUs
11:54 Navigating Permits and Development Risks
14:48 Investment Structure and Returns
17:52 Market Demand and Customer Acquisition
20:46 Conclusion and Future Outlook
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In this episode, Frank Cava and Ian Mathews dive into the concept of "signal vs. noise" as it relates to productivity, time management, and goal setting. The discussion explores how to filter out distractions (noise) to focus on what truly matters (signal) in both personal and professional contexts. The hosts use real-world examples, analogies, and practical strategies to illustrate how prioritizing high-impact tasks and setting clear, aggressive goals can drive success.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Context of Signal vs. Noise
03:40 The Importance of Goal Setting
06:45 Time Management and Productivity
09:47 The Role of Focus in Achieving Goals
12:44 Understanding Signal and Noise in Communication
15:56 The Engineering Perspective on Signal and Noise
18:33 The Impact of Time on Goal Achievement
21:36 The Psychology of Readiness to Change
24:51 The Concept of Prospection and Future Motivation
27:50 Innovation Through Discomfort
30:32 The Relationship Between Goals and Discomfort
33:50 The Importance of Selective Attention in Goal Setting
42:18 Podcast outro.wav
In this conversation, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava discuss the challenges faced by Cracker Barrel, particularly focusing on its recent logo controversy and the implications of its branding strategy. They explore the restaurant's origins, its business model, and the impact of social media on consumer behavior. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding core customers while navigating the evolving landscape of the restaurant industry, especially in the context of fast casual dining trends. The conversation concludes with reflections on potential future directions for Cracker Barrel and the broader implications for branding in today's market.
Chapters:
00:00 Cracker Barrel's Origins
03:01 Cracker Barrel's Business Model and Challenges
05:47 Rebranding and Logo Controversy
08:55 The Fast Casual Dining Trend
11:55 Cultural Reflections and Consumer Behavior
14:40 Rebranding Lessons from History
19:57 Corporate Missteps and Customer Alienation
23:31 The Importance of Understanding Your Core Audience
27:11 Marketing Strategies: Lessons from the Past
29:45 The Role of Social Media in Modern Marketing
32:55 Future Directions for Cracker Barrel
36:31 Reflections on Branding and Identity
Summary
Ian and Frank discuss various topics ranging from real estate events and market insights to employee management and personal branding. They delve into the challenges of handling difficult conversations in the workplace, the impact of current events on sports and advertising, and the role of AI in modern business practices. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding personal branding and perception, as well as the evolving landscape of advertising in a politically charged environment. The episode concludes with reflections on the future of sports media and the significance of maintaining a sense of humor in today's society.
00:00 Why is Frank in San Diego?
02:08 Cava's Upcoming 2-Day Event
05:55 Handling Difficult Conversations in Management
11:49 Navigating Employee Quirks and Culture
13:56 Personal Branding and Perception
16:50 Current Events in Sports and Advertising
21:41 Controversial Advertising and Public Reaction
27:44 The Role of AI in Advertising and Business
37:56 Closing Thoughts and Future of Sports Media
Ian Mathews and Frank Cava reflect on the importance of networks in achieving success, drawing parallels between their personal experiences and the lives of iconic figures like Hulk Hogan and Dion Sanders. They discuss how the people we surround ourselves with can significantly influence our ambitions, behaviors, and ultimately our success. The conversation emphasizes the need to audit one's network, recognize when to let go of unproductive relationships, and the value of both strong and weak ties in personal and professional growth.
Chapters
00:00 Remembering Icons: Hulk Hogan and Dion Sanders
03:08 The Importance of Network in Success
05:46 Surrounding Yourself with the Right People
08:47 The Impact of Changing Networks
11:50 Building a New Network After Leaving a Job
14:39 Social Contagion and Its Effects
17:55 The Balance of Ambition and Contentment
20:33 Firing Friend Groups for Personal Growth
27:57 Navigating Friendships and Networks
29:48 The Concept of Enough
32:36 Homophily and Its Impact on Relationships
34:07 Bringing Value to New Networks
36:53 Understanding What Truly Matters
41:50 Auditing Your Network
48:40 Investing in the Right Networks
In this episode, Frank and Ian explore the intricate balance between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation. They share personal anecdotes and discuss the motivations of renowned figures, such as Scotty Scheffler and Tiger Woods. The conversation highlights how intrinsic joy in the process and extrinsic rewards can both drive success, offering insights into achieving a fulfilling and balanced life.
Episode Summary:
[00:00 - 05:00] Introduction to Motivation Frank and Ian introduce the topic of intrinsic versus extrinsic motivation, setting the stage for a deep dive into how these forces shape our lives.
[05:01 - 15:00] Personal Stories and Insights Ian shares a childhood story about shoveling snow, illustrating the early lessons of intrinsic motivation. Frank adds his perspective on how these motivations have evolved in his career.
[15:01 - 25:00] Scotty Scheffler's Approach The hosts discuss golfer Scotty Scheffler's unique balance of motivation, emphasizing his love for the process over the accolades.
[25:01 - 35:00] Comparing Legends: Tiger Woods vs. Scotty Scheffler A comparison between Tiger Woods' extrinsic-driven career and Scheffler's intrinsic joy in the game, highlighting different paths to success.
[35:01 - 45:00] The Role of Motivation in Business Frank and Ian explore how motivation impacts business success, sharing insights from their own experiences and discussing the importance of finding joy in work.
[45:01 - 55:00] Practical Takeaways The episode wraps up with practical advice on how listeners can apply these motivational insights to their own lives, encouraging a balance between intrinsic satisfaction and extrinsic rewards.
[55:01 - End] Closing Thoughts Frank and Ian conclude with reflections on the importance of gratitude and maintaining motivation over the long term.
Summary
Frank and Ian discuss the evolving landscape of employment in the age of AI, focusing on the distinction between generalists and specialists. They explore the impact of AI on job security, the rise of Facebook as a case study in business success, and the importance of technical expertise in navigating the workforce. The conversation emphasizes the need for individuals to acquire skills and adapt to the changing job market, highlighting the potential risks for generalists in a world increasingly driven by specialization.
Chapters
01:05 The Impact of AI on Employment
04:02 Advice for Young Professionals
05:51 The Rise of Facebook: A Case Study
10:01 The Role of Proximity in Business Success
13:41 The Winklevoss Twins and the Importance of Technical Skills
17:42 Job Security in the Age of AI
20:02 The Legal Battles of Facebook's Rise
21:29 The Role of Expertise in Business Growth
22:44 Generalists vs. Specialists in Leadership
24:25 The Importance of Technical Knowledge in Management
26:14 The Trade-offs of Middle Management
28:26 AI's Impact on Technical Skills and Knowledge Retention
34:16 The Future of Jobs: Specialists vs. Generalists
38:23 The Value of Trade Skills in an AI World
40:45 Understanding the Cost of Expertise
Ian and Frank explore the complexities of saying no in both personal and professional contexts. They share humorous anecdotes, delve into the psychology behind our reluctance to decline requests, and discuss the importance of setting boundaries. The conversation highlights famous examples of individuals who have successfully navigated the art of saying no, emphasizing that it can lead to greater opportunities and personal growth. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own experiences and consider how they can apply these insights to their lives.
Chapters
00:00 Debating the utility of the word "balls"
01:56 The Importance of Saying No
05:52 Famous Examples of Saying No
11:52 The Psychology Behind Saying No
17:56 Social Conditioning and Fear of Rejection
20:54 Time Management and Opportunity Cost
22:34 The Power of Time and Task Management
24:48 Sacrifices for Success: The Weekend Grind
28:01 Swinging at Your Pitch: The Importance of Focus
31:21 Knowing When to Delegate: The Balance of Responsibility
33:02 The Dangers of Saying Yes: Managing Expectations
35:54 The Art of Saying No: Setting Boundaries
38:39 Communicating Your Limits: The Importance of Transparency
41:57 Finding Balance: Social Requests vs. Personal Time
Ian and Frank delve into the significance of mentorship in personal and professional development. They share personal anecdotes about their mentors, discuss the psychology behind mentorship, and explore the dynamics of mentor-mentee relationships. The conversation emphasizes the importance of finding the right mentor, the role of self-interest in mentorship, and the value of follow-up in maintaining these relationships. They also touch on the differences between mentorship and training, and the challenges of seeking mentorship in today's digital age.
Chapters
03:37 Navigating Professional Challenges
06:35 The Role of Mentors in Career Development
09:23 Famous Mentorships and Their Impact
12:26 Understanding the Dynamics of Mentorship
15:38 Learning from Both Strengths and Weaknesses
18:51 The Fragility of Mentorship
21:46 Peer Relationships and Mentorship
24:52 The Psychology Behind Mentorship
27:27 Becoming a Mentor Yourself
34:25 The Psychology of Mentorship
39:49 The Power Dynamics in Mentorship
43:59 Identifying Goals for Mentorship
48:52 Building Relationships with Mentors
52:56 Finding the Right Mentor
57:17 Investing in Mentorship
Frank and Ian explore the themes of rule-breaking and innovation in business, particularly through the lens of technology and customer engagement. They discuss the importance of staying relevant in a rapidly changing world, using the example of the Savannah Bananas, a baseball team that has successfully reinvented the game to attract a new audience. The conversation also touches on the challenges faced by Major League Baseball in adapting to modern viewer preferences and the lessons that can be learned from smaller, more agile companies. In this conversation, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava explore the evolving landscape of sports viewership, the rise of soccer in America, and the importance of innovation in business. They discuss the challenges faced by traditional sports leagues like MLB, the impact of learned helplessness in organizations, and the necessity of being dynamic in response to market changes. The dialogue emphasizes the balance between maintaining core values and adapting to new trends, using examples from various industries to illustrate their points.
Chapters
03:05 Staying Relevant in a Changing World
05:56 Innovations in Baseball: The Savannah Bananas
08:54 Lessons from the Savannah Bananas
12:02 Learning from Competitors: The Importance of Humility
14:56 The Impact of Tradition on Major League Baseball
17:52 Major League Baseball's Adaptation and Innovations
28:09 The Evolution of Sports Viewership
30:05 Soccer's Rise and the Importance of Game Duration
32:28 Innovation vs. Tradition in Sports
35:16 The Dangers of 'Not Invented Here' Syndrome
39:01 Overcoming Learned Helplessness in Organizations
40:11 The Importance of Dynamism in Business
44:48 Adapting to Market Changes
52:50 Finding Dynamic Solutions in a Static Environment
In this conversation, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava discuss the current state of the real estate market, focusing on the impact of rising interest rates, builder strategies, and buyer psychology. They explore market trends, the challenges faced by builders, and the importance of adapting to changing conditions. The discussion also touches on government policies affecting housing affordability and investment strategies for navigating the evolving landscape. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for flexibility and a proactive approach in the real estate industry.
Chapters
00:00 The Current State of Real Estate
03:04 Builder Trends and Market Dynamics
06:15 Interest Rates and Market Psychology
09:01 The Impact of Market Sentiment
12:06 Navigating the Real Estate Landscape
14:42 Future Predictions and Market Adjustments
26:28 The Challenges of Young Buyers in Real Estate
27:04 The Rise of Accidental Landlords
29:09 Current Inventory Trends and Market Dynamics
30:26 The Shortage of New Construction
31:55 Lessons from Past Market Downturns
36:22 Government Initiatives for Housing Affordability
38:23 Navigating Regulations and Market Changes
41:37 Embracing the Reality of High Interest Rates
45:17 Strategies for Real Estate Success in a Tough Market
Summary
In this conversation, Ian and Frank explore various themes surrounding resilience, trauma, and success, using the song 'Kickstart My Heart' by Motley Crue as a focal point. They discuss the importance of personal stories in business, the role of trauma in shaping successful individuals, and the necessity of reinvention in a constantly changing market. The dialogue is filled with humor, personal anecdotes, and insightful reflections on the entrepreneurial journey, making it relatable and inspiring for listeners.
Chapters
04:27 Kickstart My Heart: The Story Behind the Song
07:19 Resilience and Adversity: Lessons from Trauma
12:40 The Impact of Trauma on Success
18:38 Overcoming Challenges and Finding Freedom
20:10 Multiple Strategies for Success
21:02 The Power of Personal Connection in Business
22:53 The Importance of Belief in Your Product
24:52 Collaboration and Team Dynamics
27:23 Embracing Vulnerability and Open Communication
31:25 Reinvention and Staying Relevant
35:40 Chasing Goals and Overcoming Doubt
SHOW NOTES:
"Necessity is the mother of invention." ~Plato
"Necessity is the mother of skills." ~Frank Cava
With the recent news that Warren Buffett is stepping down as CEO, Frank and Ian recount their last trip to see the Oracle of Omaha.
Ian and Frank explore themes of expectation versus reality, the impact of arrogance in applying for a position, and the importance of humility in both sports and business. The discussion highlights the lessons that can be learned from Sanders' experience during the 2025 NFL Draft process.
Chapters
03:28 Shadour Sanders: The Legacy of a Star
06:35 The Impact of NIL and College Football Dynamics
09:25 The Draft Process: Surprises and Speculations
12:14 The Shock of Falling Draft Stock
15:22 Arrogance and Expectations: The Sanders Approach
21:35 Comparing Legacies: Deion vs. Shadour Sanders
23:44 Navigating the Hiring Process
25:10 The Importance of Self-Awareness in Management
27:19 The Dangers of Overconfidence
29:39 Learning from Mistakes and Seeking the Right Advice
32:04 The Role of Humility in Career Success
35:03 Transforming Failures into Opportunities
37:39 The Path to Redemption and Growth
In this episode, Ian recounts the incredible journey of how his startup, Keep Technologies, secured an endorsement with Shaquille O'Neal. They discuss the preparation leading up to the meeting, the unexpected FaceTime call from Shaq, and the successful product demo that followed. The episode highlights the importance of networking, the excitement of having a celebrity endorsement, and the lessons learned throughout the process. Ultimately, it’s a story of perseverance, strategic risk-taking, and the potential for success in the entrepreneurial world.
*This episode was recorded in October of 2023, following a day spent recording a commercial with Shaquille O'Neal. We waited to release the episode to coincide with the advertising campaign.
Ian Mathews and Frank Cava explore the psychological concept of reactance, the human need for autonomy, and why giving advice as a manager often backfires. The conversation also touches on marketing failures, such as the Tide Pods incident, and the balance between being a maverick and adhering to societal norms.
They discuss the Socratic method as a powerful tool for managers to engage employees during performance appraisals and emphasize the importance of situational leadership in adapting management styles to individual team members. The conversation highlights the need for managers to be aware of their team's dynamics and to use questioning techniques to foster growth and accountability.
Chapters
03:13 The Human Condition of Rebellion
06:12 Cultural Reflections: The Breakfast Club
09:14 Understanding Authority and Rebellion
12:10 Psychological Insights: Reactance and Human Needs
14:56 Case Studies: Tide Pods and Marketing Failures
18:08 Mavericks in Society: Balancing Rules and Freedom
28:00 Understanding Reactance in Management
31:59 The Florida Truth Campaign: A Case Study
34:57 The Socratic Method in Management
47:04 Performance Appraisals: A New Approach
55:48 Situational Leadership and Adaptability
Show Notes:
"Nut-cutting time" is when extreme, drastic, or decisive action is required; a period, usually near the end of an endeavor, when pressure to succeed is most intense; crunch time.
Summary
In this conversation, Frank Cava and Ian Mathews explore the dynamics of asking for favors and the psychological principles behind it, particularly the Ben Franklin effect. They discuss how small requests can build relationships, influence, and trust in both personal and professional settings. The conversation highlights the importance of gratitude, follow-up, and genuine communication in fostering connections and achieving success.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 The Godfather: A Family Tradition
19:36 The Ben Franklin Effect in Relationships
24:40 Lessons from Moneyball: Asking for Favors
29:34 Building Relationships Through Favors
34:10 The Power of Handwritten Notes
39:00 Empowering Others in Business
44:01 The Importance of Genuine Requests
In this conversation, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava discuss the current state of the real estate and stock markets, exploring themes of investment strategies, market dynamics, and external economic factors. They reflect on personal experiences and insights gained from years in the industry, emphasizing the importance of understanding market trends and making informed decisions. The discussion also touches on the impact of interest rates, insurance costs, and the slow nature of real estate transactions, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of the current financial landscape. In this conversation, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava delve into the current state of investment strategies, particularly in real estate and the stock market. They discuss the importance of understanding market dynamics, the impact of FHA loans, and the divergence between luxury and affordable housing markets. The conversation also touches on Warren Buffett's strategic decisions and the significance of maintaining a strong cash position in uncertain economic times.
Chapters
00:00 March Madness and Market Jitters
02:47 Navigating Real Estate and Stock Market Dynamics
05:51 Understanding Market Peaks and Trends
09:01 The Impact of External Factors on Real Estate
11:57 The Slow Nature of Real Estate Transactions
15:02 Metrics for Assessing Market Sentiment
17:55 Historical Context and Future Predictions
23:42 The Gamble of Investment Strategies
25:59 Market Dynamics: Winners and Losers
28:28 The Divergence in Housing Markets
32:05 Understanding FHA Loans and Their Impact
36:14 The Current State of the Housing Market
38:52 Warren Buffett's Strategic Moves
44:27 Cash Positioning in Uncertain Times
SHOW NOTES:
*Frank actually wrote this outline and put more than 3 minutes of preparation into the episode. If you see him on the street, make sure to offer some positive encouragement for his contributions.
Summary
Ian and Frank analyze recent market reactions to tariff announcements, the historical context of tariffs in America, and the strategic use of tariffs in economic policy, particularly under the Trump administration. They discuss the strategic motivations behind Trump's policies, particularly in relation to China and economic adjustments. They explore the implications of tariffs, the challenges of national debt, and the potential pain associated with economic reforms. The discussion highlights the uncertainty in the market and the opportunities that arise during disruptive times, emphasizing the importance of understanding economic dynamics and preparing for future challenges.
Chapters
00:00 The Story Behind Ben Stein's Role in Ferris Bueller's Day Off
04:15 Understanding Tariffs and Their Impact
08:38 Market Reactions to Recent Tariff Announcements
11:40 The Role of Tariffs in Economic Strategy
18:59 Historical Context of Tariffs in America
23:03 Trump's Strategy: A Game of Power
27:37 Economic Challenges and the Role of Debt
31:06 The Pain of Economic Adjustments
35:45 Navigating Tariffs and Market Disruptions
40:00 Opportunities Amidst Uncertainty
Summary
In this conversation, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava discuss the concept of masterminds, focusing on Frank's journey in creating his own mastermind group. They explore the importance of high-level conversations, the criteria for membership, and the strategies for marketing and customer acquisition. Frank shares insights on building a community of like-minded individuals and the value of curated discussions in fostering growth and learning. The conversation also touches on the challenges and successes of launching the first meeting of the mastermind, emphasizing the importance of quality over quantity in membership.
Takeaways
Summary
In this episode of Let Me Speak to a Manager, Ian Mathews and Frank Cava discuss the importance of in-person work, the shift back to office culture, and the role of mentorship in the workplace. They explore the end of entitlement in work culture and the impact of AI on future job security. The conversation is filled with humor, rants, and insights into the evolving work landscape.
Chapters:
00:00 The Return of the Podcast
03:25 Rants and Real Estate
06:25 The Importance of In-Person Work
12:25 Mentorship and Learning in the Office
19:23 Corporate Culture and Employee Expectations
22:43 Elon Musk's Remote Work Mandate
25:18 The Culture of Hard Work at Musk's Companies
27:42 Honesty in Company Culture
30:54 The End of Entitlement in the Workforce
33:20 The Shift Back to In-Office Work
35:08 The Reality of Remote Work
37:02 The Journey to Success
39:57 The Impenetrable CEO: Jamie Dimon
41:22 The Future of Work and AI
Summary
The conversation covers various topics, including deep-fried cheese sticks, preventing boredom, Granddad's birthday, the dog track, staying motivated, and the process of writing. The conversation explores the importance of setting goals and chasing after them to find fulfillment and avoid boredom. It emphasizes the need for a North Star goal and breaks it down into actionable steps. The hosts discuss the significance of motivation and how it can be sustained by constantly setting new challenges and finding new reasons to be excited. They also highlight the role of incentives and contests in driving innovation and engagement within a business. The conversation concludes with the idea that choosing something to chase is the key to happiness and personal growth.
Chapters
00:00 The Adult Food on Children's Menus
02:38 Granddad's Dedication to the Dog Track
09:27 Finding New Rabbits to Chase
11:19 Staying Motivated: Setting New Goals
16:07 The Process of Writing: Falling in Love with the Grind
29:12 Motivation and Challenges
45:36 Choosing Something to Chase for Happiness and Personal Growth
Summary
In this conversation, Ian and Frank discuss the topic of changing your manager's mind. They share their personal experiences and insights on navigating the dynamics between managers and employees. They explore why managers often fall in love with their ideas and the challenges of convincing them otherwise. They also discuss the importance of trust, competence, and taking ownership in building a persuasive case. The conversation highlights the need to understand the manager's perspective and the impact of decisions on their roles and responsibilities. The conversation discusses five methods to change the mind of a manager. These methods include bringing new information to the table, explaining the unintended consequences, using facts and data, building a posse of supporters, and changing the environment. The hosts provide examples and insights on how to implement these methods effectively. They emphasize the importance of removing ego and being open-minded to new ideas. The conversation also highlights the significance of storytelling, seeking feedback, and maintaining conviction when persuading a manager.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Personal Experiences
03:02 Managers Falling in Love with Their Own Ideas
06:09 Taking Ownership and Making a Big Impact
08:07 Managers Making Decisions for Frontline Employees
13:20 The Role of Trust and Fear in Persuasion
21:18 Proving Competence and Taking on More Responsibility
23:14 Good Managers Harnessing and Empowering Employees
23:32 Bringing New Information
26:51 Explaining Unintended Consequences
30:08 Using Facts and Data
37:08 Building a Posse
44:42 Changing the Environment
Are you burned out? You're not alone. Burnout feels inevitable in this age. But you don't have to roll over and give up. Frank and Ian outline several steps to help you get your mojo back.
Takeaways
Chapters
07:36
Introducing the Seinfeld Method
14:45
The Power of Consistency and Daily Practice
27:31
The Role of Daily Lead Generation and Marketing in Business
34:37
The Uninterrupted Streak of Breathing
43:56
Starting and Maintaining Streaks for Success
In this conversation, Ian and Frank discuss their experiences raising capital for their businesses and investing in different markets. They explore factors influencing a small business owner's decision to seek capital, such as market conditions and personal financial goals. They also delve into the advantages of investing in Richmond, Virginia, including lower costs compared to other markets and the ability to leverage their knowledge and contacts. The conversation highlights two investment structures they have used: a portfolio of single-family homes and the renovation of commercial buildings. Overall, they emphasize the importance of understanding the market and building a solid team when seeking capital and investing in real estate. Frank and Ian discuss their previous real estate deals and their current investment opportunity. They highlight each deal's different structures and returns, emphasizing the importance of having multiple exit strategies and considering market conditions. They also discuss the benefits of private funding over traditional bank loans and the security of investing in real estate-backed bonds.
01:38 The Market in 2024: Hunting for Capital
06:05 Richmond's Market and Potential
08:38 Richmond's Metropolitan Statistical Area
10:31 Considering Other Markets: Fort Lauderdale, California, and DC
13:03 Entering the Richmond Market
14:00 Why Continue Investing in Richmond?
15:42 Challenges of Entering a New Market
20:04 Different Investment Structures: Single-Family Homes and Commercial Buildings
22:56 Structuring the Investments: Portfolio of Single-Family Homes
23:26 Structuring the Investments: Renovation of Commercial Buildings
23:52 Different Deal Structures
30:48 Investing in Identical Assets
35:25 Real Estate-Backed Bonds for Cash Flow
41:08 Private Funding vs. Traditional Bank Loans
44:28 Diversifying Investment Portfolios
45:16 Market Conditions and Team Strength
Frank and Ian discuss the challenges of restarting after taking a break in this conversation. They share personal experiences and insights on overcoming inertia and embracing discomfort when starting something new. They emphasize the importance of commitment, setting goals, finding leverage, and seeking support to hold oneself accountable. They also highlight the benefits of taking breaks to recharge and gain fresh perspectives. They encourage listeners to take control of their decisions and make intentional choices when restarting or pursuing new endeavors.
Takeaways:
Restarting after a break can be challenging, but it is possible with the right mindset and strategies.
Embrace discomfort and lean into the change process to overcome inertia and create new habits.
Set specific goals, find leverage, and seek support to hold yourself accountable. Taking breaks can provide opportunities for recharging, gaining fresh perspectives, and avoiding burnout.
00:00 Introduction and Catching Up
02:15 Taking a Break from Podcasting
05:30 The Challenges of Restarting
09:01 The Importance of Commitment and Change
11:08 Embracing Discomfort and Overcoming Inertia
20:32 Setting Goals and Finding Leverage
26:33 The Benefits of Taking Breaks
30:06 Accountability and Recharging
35:37 Seeking Support and Holding Yourself Accountable
Coach "Prime" is disrupting the landscape of college football recruiting. Assuming a roster that won only one game in 2022, Deion Sanders is wasting no time upgrading the roster but at what cost? In this episode, we talk about the pros and cons of building a team versus buying one (along with the short and long-term repercussions).
Screw Vegas; real men take boys trips to Omaha! Thinking of going to see Warren and Charlie next year at the biggest investor event of the year? Frank and Ian give you an inside look at what you can expect from travel, accommodations, restaurants, tickets, finding a seat, and of course, where to find a decent casino.
North Carolina has introduced a bill to eliminate participation trophies. We debate the merits of continuous versus intermittent feedback and how demonizing encouragement for beginners might not be the best answer. When is it appropriate to cheer participation, and when is it hurtful? We look at the parallels of youth sports with managing a corporate team.
Too many people major in minor things. Anyone who responds with “busy” every time you ask them how they’re doing is likely not a productive asset to their company. Why are people busy? It’s typically an inability to prioritize, a refusal to delegate, and an unwillingness to tackle the hardest tasks. So they fill their day moving paper around and responding to emails while the wealthy focus on a few big things and ruthlessly cut everything out of their schedule.
In this episode, we dive into the psychological barriers involved with “busy” people and talk about how you can switch your focus.
Bud Light became the subject of future business school case studies when it alienated a significant portion of its core customer base. By some estimates, the mistake could cost the king of beers up to $5,000,000,000. With one decision, Bud Light handed millions of cases of beer over to Miller Lite and Coors Lite.
In this episode, we offer free advice on what Bud Light should do in response to this all-time bomb of a campaign, and we also look at the moves its competitors should focus on.
Most new managers try to "fix" every poor performer. This is part ego and part naivety that everyone can be "fixed." But these employees suck up your time as a manager and keep you from spending time with your best performers. And when these managers are finally forced to fire their first employee, they rarely look back and think it was too fast.
So how do you know when it is time to cut someone loose? We dive into this topic using our personal experiences as managers and executives.
The Ostrich Effect explains the peculiar phenomenon where people stick their heads in the sand during lousy times, ignoring troubling information easily accessible to them. Put differently, FOFO (fear of finding out) can be more dangerous than FOMO (fear of missing out).
Whether you are new to an office, leading a new team, or working in sales, connecting with people is critical. And most people are doing it all wrong.
In this episode, we bust out a cheat code to help you build a relationship with anyone in five minutes or less.
The dominos are falling, and it's starting to feel a lot like 2008 again. With SVB, Signature, and Credit Suisse making news for the wrong reasons, Frank and Ian look to lessons from the past and talk about how the latest banking crisis is informing their investment decisions.
*Disclosure: Frank and Ian are knuckleheads, not financial advisors. These are opinions and should not be mistaken for advice. You also shouldn't take fantasy football or dieting advice from our hosts either.
We built a bracket of 64 all-time party anthems and decided on a winner.
The Criteria:
**Please note that our list is light on pop music from the past 15 years and highly biased.
***This episode has nothing to do with business, investing, careers, sales/marketing, markets, real estate, or anything remotely intelligent. But it does answer our show's guiding star question, "Is it fun?"
We brought in Indiana's #1 realtor, Jeff Paxson, to help us with the best responses to the most common sales objections. In a March Madness-style bracket, we pit objections against each other, moving on to those that we consider the most difficult to handle. We debate the best responses to "Your fees are too high," "Can you call me back next month," "I had a bad experience with your company before," "Your online reviews are terrible," and more!
Behind every inspirational story at the Super Bowl was a long list of personal failures, setbacks, and losses. The top names in the biggest game rose to prominence by building off each failure. In this episode, we look at how failure can be used as a fuel rather than a black mark on your career.
"I either win, or I learn. But I never lose."
~Jalen Hurts, quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles (losers of Super Bowl LVII)
The future looked bright for one highly recruited high school football contract. And then he made history with the largest licensing deal offered to a recruit before signing with the University of Florida. As soon as he took the money, things fell apart. In this episode, we look at the pressure and expectations of landing life-changing money.
Chick-fil-A is among the most profitable restaurant chains in history. It routinely ranks #1 in customer service, and individual franchises boast profit margins unfathomable amongst their peers.
Frank recently attended a conference with Chick-fil-A Chairman Dan Cathy. This episode summarizes Cathy's masterclass on building a high-performing culture, hiring and retaining great people, and scaling a world-class profit machine.
"Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful."
~Warren Buffet (and Frank Cava)
The market swung violently from pessimism to "full bull mode" in January. Rates came in, stocks were up, and bidding wars are flaring back up in real estate and trading cards. Is risk back on, or is this economy setting itself up for an even bigger collapse? We break it down from a fundamental perspective. Get your popcorn!
In this episode, we look at several high profile examples where individuals passed on life-changing money in the short term to build even more wealth in the future.
Frank is never afraid to pour profits back into investments in himself. In this episode, Frank walks us through his decision to cut a massive check to the success guru, Tony Robbins, and takes us into this week-long Business Mastery course for an inside glance at what it was like to attend.
Prevailing wisdom extolls the virtues of diversification. Spread your effort and investments so that no venture can bring you down. But how much do you know about anything with so little time invested in each? Look at the richest individuals in history, and you'll find very few who did it by diversifying. Most took big bets on themselves, burned the boats, and pushed all their chips onto the table. We debate the merits of both strategies in this episode.
Negativity bias is a cognitive bias that explains why negative events or feelings typically have a more significant impact on our psychological state than positive events or feelings, even when they are of equal proportion. In this episode, we look at how this bias can help or hurt our decision-making in our careers, investing, and leading people.
So you nailed the job interview, congratulations. Now what? We've got you covered in this episode and our conclusion might surprise you.
Bull markets are like great parties. Everyone has a blast, they go on forever, and no one wants the night to end. The global economy has been raging for a decade and now we're straight into the after-party. But how are we funding this late-night extension? Debt. Lots of debt.
With consumer debt now at levels twice as high as the last debt crisis, it feels like we are headed for one hell of a hangover.
Does it feel like more people are cheating? Whether it is chess, walleye fishing tournaments, poker, or CEOs of cryptocurrency exchanges, the news is filled with liars, scammers, and frauds. In this episode, we examine the cheater's mindset and what can be done about it.
In this episode, we discuss the process of raising private capital for a technology startup in 2022. Frank interviews Ian about the recently closed funding round for Keep, an early-stage tech company focused on car security and monitoring. Ian shares how he chose who to pitch, their concerns, and the unique challenges of doing this during an economic downturn.
Crypto crashes, consumer debt hitting record levels, the stock market is crashing, Musk is firing half of Twitter ... are these signs of a bottom, or are we just getting started? Frank and Ian dig into these juicy morsels like they were eating double bacon cheeseburgers.
The Let Me Speak To A Manger podcast predicted this recession months ago, and now the only question left is how deep it will get. In this episode, we talk about steps we are taking in our businesses and with our investments as we head into a highly uncertain 2023.
Would you rather own a single-family rental property or a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle baseball card? Depending on where you live, the latter might be a much better investment (and definitely sounds cooler at a cocktail party). In this episode, we dive into our childhood hobby and compare the similarities of investing in trading cards, stocks, and real estate.
This is the second part of our ongoing series on interviewing. We dive into why a hiring manager should ask these questions and what they should look for in an answer. We also offer advice to candidates on how to answer these questions to get the job.
If you like this episode, check out Episode 50 for Part 1.
How much of a role does luck play in a career? When we study the uber-successful, do they leave clues or are they a product of an impossible combination of fortunate events?
If given the choice, remote work is incredibly appealing. No commute, more flexibility to manage personal responsibilities, more snack breaks, etc. But the long-term financial ramifications of working from home have yet to be determined. Are remote workers more at-risk during a lay-off? Do office workers get preferential treatment for promotions and pay increases? And what does choosing to work remotely say about your drive and commitment? We look at the pros and cons of choosing to work from home in this episode.
Quiet Quitting is a viral TikTok concept that is working its way into the mainstream. In a nutshell, "quiet quitting" is about rejecting the notion that work has to take over one's life, and that employees should ever go above and beyond what their job descriptions entail. According to Metro, this can take many forms – including turning down projects based on interest, refusing to answer work messages outside of working hours, or simply feeling less invested in the role. In this episode, we look at this catchy term for an old problem – low employee engagement by watching several hot takes on TikTok and breaking them down from a fundamental perspective. Does this term have merit and if not, what is a disengaged employee to do instead?
The PGA golf tour is facing an existential threat from an incredibly wealthy competitor. The LIV golf tour out of Saudi Arabia is shaking up the world of golf with massive payouts, new rules, and an aggressive approach. We look at the PGA's initial response and explain how it is doomed to fail unless they innovate. We also look at other classic business wars like Pepsi vs. Coke, Apple vs. Samsung, and of course, professional wrestling as analogs for any business. When faced with a competitive threat, do you become more creative or do you whine and give up?
The world of sports recently lost one of the greatest play-by-play announcers of all time. Over a career that spanned nearly 70 years, Vin Scully built a brand as the go-to voice for must-see sporting events like the World Series, NFL playoffs, NCAA tournament, and of course, LA Dodgers baseball. In this episode, we look at what made Vin Scully so beloved by fans and the lessons anyone could apply in their own careers.
Frank and Ian compare their fantasy football league to the world of business. Fortunately for Frank, he is much better at execution with his business than he is with his fantasy roster.
In late July, Unilever broke the internet by announcing the discontinuation of one of America's most iconic treats, the Choco Taco. Frank and Ian were devastated and spent the next 48 hours scouring convenience stores to pile up stock.
Then our energy quickly turned to the miracle story of one man pitching his boss on a new product that would ultimately generate more than 1,000,000,000 units sold. That man is Alan Drazen and he joined us to share his founder's journey from concept, prototype, first sales, viral marketing, landing Taco Bell, and growing the business over four decades.
Alan Drazen is a dreamer who created something lasting value from scratch. His story will inspire you to reach higher than you thought you were capable of.
From the time we are kids, we are taught that anxiety is dangerous and that the solution to its pain is to eradicate it like we do any disease—prevent it, avoid it, and stamp it out at all costs. Yet cutting-edge therapies, hundreds of self-help books, and medications have failed to keep anxiety at bay. A third of us will struggle with anxiety disorders in our lifetime and rates in children and adults continue to skyrocket.
But are we thinking about anxiety all wrong? Dr. Tracy Dennis-Tiwary thinks so and joins us for a wide-ranging discussion on how anxiety can become a superpower in one's career. In this episode, we dive into her brilliant book, "Future Tense: Why Anxiety Is Good For You (Even Thought It Feels Bad)." If you struggle with anxiety in a professional setting, in your relationships, or even in parenting your kids, this episode will help you think differently about stress. The only thing you should do faster than listen to this episode is head to Amazon to buy her book with more "aha moments" than Frank's time learning from Ian's greatness at NVR.
Buy the book here:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09GRLT7ZY/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0
Pay inequality is a fact of life. A manager gets paid more than her subordinates, her manager gets paid more than her, and her manager's boss gets paid even more. Everyone wonders how much their manager makes, and we are equally keen to learn about the difference in pay with our co-workers. In this episode, we look at recent research done regarding the impact of knowing the difference in pay of our peers and managers (and how much it impacts our quality and volume of work).
Do people work harder when they learn that their boss makes more than they expected? And does it have an opposite effect when we learn about peers who make more than we thought? What should this data tell us about how much transparency companies should strive for with pay? Would Ian work so hard on this podcast if he thought Frank was making more for significantly less work?
Are you looking to move up in your company? Tired of watching less talented peers get promoted while feeling stuck? This episode is for you. Most decisions to be promoted are made well in advance of the position opening. If you're waiting for an invitation to interview, you might be sorely disappointed. In this episode, we talk about how you can start positioning yourself as someone who should move up within the organization, and how your behaviors should change before you even get the chance to interview.
On the 50th anniversary of the infamous Watergate scandal, Frank and Ian dive deep into the lessons from this ugly moment in American history.
"Yeah, I'm gonna need you to go ahead and come into the office this weekend."
~Lumbergh, Office Space
7 in 10 people report feeling micromanaged at work, yet only 3 in 10 managers self-report micromanagement tendencies. Of course, everyone hates working for a micromanager but inevitably, most fall into the same controlling tendencies as their former managers.
In this episode, Frank and Ian dive into tangible steps you can take if your boss is sucking the life out of you at work. Next, we examine why managers take this overbearing approach and how you might be part of the problem. Finally, we offer an approach you can take with your manager that gets them to ease up on the reigns and let you do your job with more autonomy.
Stocks, bonds, and crypto have folded like cheap suits in 2022. Yet residential real estate prices march higher even with mortgage rates doubling in the first six months of this year. As housing affordability indexes approach obscene levels, Frank and Ian look at what comes next in residential real estate.
In this episode, we dive into a concept made popular by the book, "Multipliers," by Liz Wiseman. In this book, she looks at two distinctly different types of managers and the impact they have on teams. Multipliers get more from teams by giving away power, while Diminishers requires ever more resources with their controlling ways. Frank and Ian reflect on the multipliers and diminishers they've worked with throughout their careers and what set them apart.
In early Spring, we felt as if an old game had ended and a new one started. No longer were Frank and Ian guessing where we were in the last cycle. Something new and much less forgiving was beginning. In this episode, our hosts talk about the phases of a recession and how the dominoes tend to fall. How can you prepare and what actions can you take to end up stronger on the other side of this ugly economic cycle?
Steve Trang runs a seven-figure coaching business helping real estate businesses improve their sales approach. But after graduating with a master's degree in mechanical engineering from UC San Diego, that path was anything but certain. Steve's first role out of college was at Intel, designing the USB interface and hard drive in cell phones. But he left that safe career to pursue real estate at the worst possible time in 2007. After several hard years, Steve's resilience paid off and he grew from an individual realtor to building a real estate office that led to his training business today.
We talk to Steve about his fascinating career and the mental fortitude required for entrepreneurship. We touch on finding his first deals as a realtor during the financial crisis, the pressure on his marriage of starting a business with no money, following the money, and starting a business that leverages his best talents. This episode has a little bit of everything from an incredible person with lofty goals.
Zack Bubb is a long-time fan of the show with one hell of a career trajectory. Recently promoted to manager of a technical team, we talk with Zack about how to establish himself as a leader of his former peers. In this show:
Berkshire Hathaway recently held its 2022 annual meeting. Dubbed the "Lollapalooza for Investors," Warren and longtime partner, Charlie Munger were in rare form. They answered questions for six hours on topics related to the economy, stock market, inflation, global relations, and how to protect your investments in a down market. Frank and Ian deconstruct some of their best soundbites and relate their advice to their businesses.
Running a small business is an emotional roller coaster. You can have the worst morning of your career and the best afternoon all on the same day. In this episode, Frank and Ian talk about how they stay sane amidst the chaos.
Growing your net worth isn’t necessarily about what you know. It’s about how you behave. And even really smart people struggle to control their unconscious instincts and biases.
Money―investing, personal finance, and business decisions―is typically thought of as a function of math. But in the real world, people don’t make financial decisions on a spreadsheet. Their personal history, unique view of the world, ego, pride, marketing, and odd incentives are scrambled their decision-making process and it is incredibly easy to make terrible decisions. We look at 12 of those mistakes in this episode and try to unpack techniques to overcome them.
Some interviewers lean too heavily on technical skills, others rely solely on personality. Most are fooled by some form of unconscious bias (recency, primacy, "just like me"). In this episode, we look at our egregious mistakes as young managers and the steps we've taken to limit them in the years that followed. This episode should be mandatory training for any new manager tasked with hiring employees.
The human brain makes thousands of daily decisions, most of which have no impact on your long-term success. And when we are faced with a decision that requires deep reflection, we are too often influenced by subconscious bias. Our brain creates a narrative and we are vulnerable to faulty decisions as a result. In this episode, we offer nine questions you can ask yourself to improve the quality of those big decisions.
Are you stuck? Not satisfied with your productivity? Do you have a big idea but can't seem to take the first step? You're not alone. We dive into the psychology of procrastination and list some tangible steps you can take to start moving the needle.
The gambler's fallacy, also known as the Monte Carlo fallacy, occurs when an individual erroneously believes that a certain random event is less likely or more likely to happen based on the outcome of a previous event or series of events. In this episode, Frank and Ian dissect this cognitive bias that prevents many people from making quality career and investing decisions.
Alastair J. MacDonald is an international analyst, forecaster, speaker, writer and investment consultant. He is the founder and editor of “The Parallax Report,” a subscription-based market, social and economic forecasting service for individual investors, and institutions. His specialty is identifying the dangers and opportunities in global markets, as driven by social mood. His analysis accurately predicted; the decline in the US dollar (2004), the bursting of the US housing bubble (2004-2005), the global financial crisis (2007), the peak in commodity prices (2008), the collapse of Lehman Brothers (2007), the bottom in US stocks (Spring 2009), the bull market in the US dollar (2011), the second term of Barack Obama (Aug 2012) and the election of Donald Trump (July 2016). He hosts a weekly podcast called “Alone in the Crowd.”
Also, Alastair is a business coach to Frank Cava, an exercise in maddening futility.
We don't often host guests but this episode has us re-thinking our strategy. This was a fascinating conversation about war, historical markets, business cycles, psychology, and surviving multiple hippo attacks in Africa.
You can watch his Ted talk here.
News of inflation is dominating the headlines for the first time in decades. But what does it mean to an investor? In this episode, Frank and Ian talk about how rising prices influence their investing decisions. Disclaimer: Frank and Ian are only stating opinions and personal preferences. Consult with a professional before making any investment decisions.
What if you spent twenty years of your career in one field and had to start over from scratch? That is exactly what Nick Clemente is faced with after a distinguished military career that is ending soon. In this episode, we work with Nick on how to approach his second act and share our experiences transitioning from corporate to startups.
In this episode:
Did you know that 64% of Millenials have or have had a side hustle in the past 12 months? If you think this is just younger generations, that number is still 58% for Gen X and even 44% for Baby Boomers. The "Gig Economy" is defined by the Wall Street Journal as "a labor market characterized by the prevalence of short-term contracts or freelance work as opposed to permanent jobs."
In this episode, Frank and Ian look at ways to profit from this shift to contract work. We look at side hustles that we've been paid for and how we use contractors to scale businesses much faster without hiring direct employees.
In Episode 41, Frank and Ian laid out a plan to raise $4,000,000 in private capital to fund a commercial real estate portfolio. This deal closed in Q3 of 2021 and we talk about the progress made to date in realizing the full revenue potential of the assets.
Few transitions are more challenging than managing a group of people who were once your peers. One day, you are grinding it out in the trenches. The next, you are giving them directions. In this episode, we talk about the four types of former peers you will encounter as a new manager. What are the pros and cons of the Advocate, Doubter, Worrier, and the Exposed?
Managers are always on stage. Like it or not, we model behaviors that others emulate. When we are enthusiastic and positive, our teams follow along. And when leaders disengage, it feels like a rainstorm gathering over the office. In this episode, we break down a particularly bad day for Frank and how he snapped himself out of it.
And as a bonus, we dive into a ridiculous example of excess as Frank's frustration drives him to fly private. How did he book the flight? Where did he fly, and just how much does it cost to book a private jet?
Alone, hungry, tired, sick ... this is an account of one man's journey to stay alive and return home to his family against all odds. Also, it is about the time Ian tested positive for Covid and got stuck by himself in Mexico with no return date in sight.
In this episode, Frank and Ian debate how to lead superstars in a business. In many companies, 80% of the output comes from 20% of the producers. So should those stars be afforded different perks than their peers? *Ian is clearly the star of this podcast but his selfless willingness to also do all of the grunt work behind the scenes is really what makes the LMSTAM podcast go.
Frank and Ian coach one of their loyal listeners as he approaches a crossroads in his career. "Milosh" is a quality engineer in France who wants to make the move into sales and marketing. In this fun conversation, we consult Milosh on steps he can take within his company and potentially outside of his company.
*If you are interested in our coaching in a similar format, send an email to Ian or Frank and we will consider you for a future episode. We will keep your identity private if you so desire.”
From a young age, we're told that quitting is a form of weakness. We learn to equate quitting with losing. When it pertains to school or sports teams, this might be solid advice. But from a professional standpoint, it holds so many people back. Success is all about focusing relentlessly on a few high-ceiling opportunities. And to figure out where to spend your time, you must first try many things (and leave most of them behind).
At some point in your career, you will likely show up to your first day of work and realize that you made a terrible mistake. And you will likely look back at several points in the process when your gut sent off warning signals. This episode looks into hidden "tells" that you should ignore at your own risk.
Cava Companies acquires hundreds of properties annually and holds more than 300 rental units. To run a real estate machine of this magnitude, Frank Cava relies on a team of 50+ employees separated into multiple departments. It is a long way from the two condos in Charlottesville that formed the basis of his company.
In this episode, we pull back the curtains and look at how Frank generates leads, evaluates risk, makes acquisitions, and allocates capital.
We publish our 65th episode exactly one year after publishing our first. In this episode, we look back on our progress, missteps, processes, lessons learned and set some public goals for 2022.
If you had to start a company and could take any five Star Wars characters, who would you take? That is exactly what Frank and I set out to do in this fantasy Star Wars draft with a business slant. The ground rules are simple: Any character from the first three Star Wars movies (IV, V, VI) are eligible. How do you pick between a jedi, a wookie, a droid, or a princess? Tune it to find out.
"God gave us two ears and one mouth for a reason."
~Frank's mom
From Psychology Today, "Interrupting implies that you deem your words more worthy than the remainder of what the other person has to say. People will view you as not having the self-discipline to avoid being rude and egotistical."
In this episode:
Gary Vaynerchuk is the chairman of VaynerX, a modern-day media and communications holding company, and the active CEO of VaynerMedia, a full-service advertising agency servicing Fortune 100 clients across the company’s 5 locations.
In the late 90s, after identifying “the internet” as a land-grab opportunity, Gary transitioned his father’s local liquor store into one of the first wine e-commerce platforms resulting in growing the family business from $3-60MM in sales during a 5-year period.
Gary is considered one of the leading global minds on what’s next in culture, relevance and the internet. Known as “GaryVee,” he is described as one of the most forward thinkers in business – he acutely recognizes trends and patterns early to help others understand how these shifts impact markets and consumer behavior. Whether its emerging artists, esports, NFT investing or digital communications, Gary understands how to bring brand relevance to the forefront. He is a prolific angel investor with early investments in companies such as Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Venmo, Snapchat, Coinbase and Uber.
Gary is an entrepreneur at heart — he builds businesses. Today, he helps Fortune 1000 brands leverage consumer attention through his full service advertising agency, VaynerMedia which has offices in NY, LA, London, Mexico City, LATAM and Singapore.
In addition to running multiple businesses, Gary documents his life daily as a CEO through his social media channels which has more than 30 million followers across all platforms. His podcast ‘The GaryVee Audio Experience” ranks among the top podcasts globally. He is a five-time New York Times Best-Selling Author and one of the most highly sought-after public speakers.
Ian spent a day with GaryVee and his team in Vayner's Los Angeles alongside David Moeller, the founder of Keep Technologies. In this two-part episode, we talk about how that experience came about and what it was like meeting GaryVee.
Gary Vaynerchuk is the chairman of VaynerX, a modern-day media and communications holding company, and the active CEO of VaynerMedia, a full-service advertising agency servicing Fortune 100 clients across the company’s 5 locations.
In the late 90s, after identifying “the internet” as a land-grab opportunity, Gary transitioned his father’s local liquor store into one of the first wine e-commerce platforms resulting in growing the family business from $3-60MM in sales during a 5-year period.
Gary is considered one of the leading global minds on what’s next in culture, relevance and the internet. Known as “GaryVee,” he is described as one of the most forward thinkers in business – he acutely recognizes trends and patterns early to help others understand how these shifts impact markets and consumer behavior. Whether its emerging artists, esports, NFT investing or digital communications, Gary understands how to bring brand relevance to the forefront. He is a prolific angel investor with early investments in companies such as Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Venmo, Snapchat, Coinbase and Uber.
Gary is an entrepreneur at heart — he builds businesses. Today, he helps Fortune 1000 brands leverage consumer attention through his full service advertising agency, VaynerMedia which has offices in NY, LA, London, Mexico City, LATAM and Singapore.
In addition to running multiple businesses, Gary documents his life daily as a CEO through his social media channels which has more than 30 million followers across all platforms. His podcast ‘The GaryVee Audio Experience” ranks among the top podcasts globally. He is a five-time New York Times Best-Selling Author and one of the most highly sought-after public speakers.
Ian spent a day with GaryVee and his team in Vayner's Los Angeles alongside David Moeller, the founder of Keep Technologies. In this two-part episode, we talk about how that experience came about and what it was like meeting GaryVee.
We believe the answer is yes.
So what can you do about it? Frank and Ian talk about how they are handling their businesses, investments, and decision-making while believing this market is deep into bubble territory.
Frank has been dropping Ian's name for years, hoping to steal some shine from his golden career. But is this an effective tactic when building a career or business? In this episode, we look into the reasons why people do this and how to respond when you come across one.
"Gaslighting" is a topic often cited in politics but recently found its way into the mainstream with two high-profile scandals. This got Frank and Ian wondering, just what the hell is "gaslighting" and how pernicious is this problem?
What better way to learn about "mansplaining" than from two guys who do it for a living? What started as a joke led Frank and Ian down a rabbit hole of linguistics, conversational style, gender differences, and some incredible research from Deborah Tannen.
In this episode:
● Geographic differences and the varying ways we take turns
● How our conversational style is developed as youth
● The differences in play between boys and girls
● Credit-grabbing and promotions
● Who speaks in "I" vs. "We"
● Should I ask questions in group settings?
● Do you apologize too much?
● Should I boast in public?
Everyone lies. You might consider yourself saintly but you won't make it through the day without stretching the truth. We look at reasons why you might want to consider something other than absolute candor in the workplace.
In this episode:
· Does the truth put my job in jeopardy?
· Should I take the blame for a teammate?
· What if I don't want to socialize with my boss or people in the office?
· Lying to protect the feelings of people we care about
· Why self-preservation is undefeated
· Lying to get out of unnecessary meetings
We waste countless hundreds of hours sitting through boring, sleepy, and hastily-prepared presentations. This episode serves as a warning to would-be public speakers. If we are annoyed by these pitch mistakes, the rest of your audience is also.
In this episode:
· Stop reading your slides!
· Less is more when it comes to public speaking
· Short presentations force you to prepare more
· Why you must nail the first minute of your speech
· Why Adele restarted her performance at the Grammy's
· How to leave people with a compelling call to action
Winning begets more winning and losing begets more losing. Inertia sets in with any team, regardless of how many members are changed out. In this short episode, Frank and Ian lament the trajectory of their favorite football teams and relate their woes to any organization on a losing streak.
“People think focus means saying yes to the thing you’ve got to focus on. But that’s not what it means at all. It means saying no to a hundred other good ideas. You have to pick carefully. I’m as proud of the things we haven’t done as the things I have done. Innovation is saying no to 1,000 things.”
~Steve Jobs
In this episode:
● The secret to success for Warren Buffett and Ted Williams
● FOMO is killing your career
● Innovation is saying no to 1,000 things
● Finding your one big thing
● How to trade "good" for "better"
● Does this activity still serve me? (the curse of sunk costs)
Plus, 4 questions to ask yourself when you are lost:
1. What am I deeply passionate about?
2. What activities do you feel like you were "made to do?"
3. What makes economic sense?
4. What do you have fun doing?
Tom Brady left the New England Patriots after 20 years and six championships. He didn't leave under his terms and tension was bubbling under the surface.
His coach, Bill Belichick: "He looked at his options and he made his decision."
His owner, Robert Kraft: "If he wanted to be here, we would have put a deal together."
Tom Brady: "I made a decision to do something different."
On October 3rd, 2021, Tom Brady faced his former organization with his new team, the Tampa Buccaneers. It was one of the highest viewed NFL games in recent memory because most people can relate to a breakup with a company.
In this episode:
With most goals, the hardest part can be starting. Regardless of how much progress we make in one area, most of us feel stuck in others. This episode was inspired by a recent blog post by Seth Godin in which he lists five useful questions to help you take action. We look at four major decisions we've been faced with recently and put the five questions to the test. They hold up well but we felt the need to add a 6th question by the time we finished.
In this episode, we look at five of the most common job interview questions. We start by discussing the purpose of each question from a company's perspective. Why are these questions valid and how do they help companies make better hiring decisions? Next, we approach each question from an applicant's perspective. What are the best kind of answers and what should be avoided at all costs?
The five interview questions covered in this episode:
With special guests David Neal and Jonathan Clark from The Eighth Mile Consulting, we break down Sun Tzu's famous book on strategy and leadership. Given that paintball is as close to combat as Frank and Ian have come, we brought in heavy hitters for this episode.
In this episode:
· "It's not about a fair fight, it's about winning."
· Why picking your battles is everything in business and war
· Lessons from Afghanistan for small companies
· Why context matters when evaluating risk
· Why do companies who stay on the offensive tend to last?
· How to link the goals of leadership with the team
The Eighth Mile Consulting: https://eighthmile.com.au/
Follow David Neal and Jonathan Clark on LinkedIn where they write daily about leadership lessons from the battlefield to corporate board rooms.
The Eighth Mile Consulting is built on a mantra of 'good people, helping good people.' Our Mission is to collaborate with organizations to improve their people, processes, product, and profile.
In particular, we provide services in:
Change Management,
Project Management,
Implementations,
Leadership/Management advice,
Individual and Team Coaching,
Risk Management, and
Representational roles.
We are different from other organizations because:
Our team is drawn from hands-on practitioners who have actually delivered what they preach, each with a reputation for delivering positive change to organizational cultures, and delivering complicated projects/tasks.
Our team consists of leaders with hands-on experience.
We are proud of our high-performing team, and we can help other teams perform to their absolute best.
We simplify the complex.
"The Peter Principle" is a book written by Dr. Laurence Peter in 1968. It was written as satire but contained enough truth that it touched a nerve with employees around the world. Today, the concepts in this book are accepted as a harsh reality. The Peter Principle observes that employees rise up through a firm's hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence. As a result, every position in a given hierarchy will eventually be filled by employees who are incompetent to fulfill their job duties.
Clearly, Frank and Ian are proof of the Peter Principle with this podcast so we consider ourselves experts on "earned incompetence." In this episode:
· Why most people won't turn down a promotion they are not qualified for
· The mistake most companies make when promoting people
· How good timing contributes to so many people feeling they are better than they are
· Why do so many incompetent people get promoted?
· Fancy titles with no direct reports are the first to go during a recession
· Why highly competent people are pushed out of companies
· Why are there so many terrible senior executives?
In 2017, Ian worked long hours, traveled constantly, and no longer found his work interesting. But like most executives, he was locked in with golden handcuffs in the form of stock options. In this episode, we talk about how Ian decided to leave and replaced his salary and bonus with several industrial properties that require only a few hours of annual work.
In this episode:
Webster's dictionary defines loyalty as "a strong feeling of support or allegiance." Most people see loyalty the same when it comes to family, friendships, and relationships. But does loyalty have any purpose in business? Here we look at the pros and cons of demonstrating loyalty to a company.
In this episode:
· News flash: Your company will survive without you
· Dealing with a toxic manager while feeling loyal to your team
· Dealing with a toxic environment while feeling loyal to your manager
· Explaining a perceived lack of loyalty in job interviews ("job hopper" label)
· How to handle a better opportunity even when you are happy with your current situation
· Why loyalty needs to be a two-way street
· Show your support to a company when they show their support to you
· Companies need to earn loyalty every day
Does your company treat you like trash? In this episode, Frank and Ian dig into the underlying reasons for the miserable state of customer service. From unhappy employees to an overreliance on outsourcing and technology, we discuss steps any business can take to become more customer-centric (and thus, more profitable).
Are you an annoying employee? Does your boss wince when she opens your emails? Does your mere presence make your manager think about nails scratching on a chalkboard? In this episode, Frank and Ian grumble about people who annoy them to no end. Brace yourself for a lot of "Get off my lawn!"
This episode kicks off as Shaquille O'Neal walks into the lounge of Four Seasons to meet with Ian and his friend David. Frank interviews Ian as he shares every detail of this two-hour business encounter with the Hall of Fame legend.
In this episode:
● "Don't stare."
● Preparing to make a great first impression
● A little luck never hurts
● Anticipating every contingency
● Knowing when to close, and doing it right
"It's not personal, strictly business."
In this episode, Ian shares his story of landing a meeting with legendary basketball star, Shaquille O’Neal. Both literally and figuratively, this meeting with Shaq was among the biggest of Ian’s career. Ian made Frank wait until recording to hear the details of the meeting, which makes this episode even more fun.
In this episode:
Fresh off a successful $10M real estate syndication that delivered a 30% return to investors, Frank and Ian are at it again. In this episode, we talk through the details of a real estate deal that will require a private capital raise of $4M+ in a short window. This episode was recorded before Frank and I negotiated terms so you can hear us working out the details as we go.
We pull back the curtain and share the details of a large real estate deal. In this episode:
Get your popcorn and buckle up. Frank and Ian are going back to the movies! This time, we talk about the five movies that had the biggest impacts on our sales careers.
In this episode:
How honest can you really be in business? We all lie, at least a little. If for no other reason than to protect people's feelings. In this episode, we talk about the concept in two classic books on this topic and debate the merits of how just how "radical" candor really is.
In this episode:
● "If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said."
● Honest feedback might hurt, but it typically leads to positive change
● Great coaches understand the difference between skill and talent
● Outbursts happen when we let irritations build up
● 10 things you can't say in an office (but we wish we could)
Can we change anyone's mind? Regardless of your occupation, persuading someone to your line of thinking can be incredibly helpful. We dig into the science of persuasion and look at techniques that have worked (and failed) for us in the past.
In this episode:
Jeff Paxson is the owner of Jeff Paxson Real Estate, a team that led Indiana in sales volume from the years 2014 to 2018. A maverick who built his career going against conventional wisdom and twice making all-in bets on himself. For anyone interested in stepping away from corporate life and building something of their own, Jeff shares his path.
Jeff Paxson Accolades:
Based on sales, Jeff Paxson has been named Wall Street Journal’s Real Trends Top 1000 Realtors aka
“The Thousand”
Annually top 5 Realtor in entire Indianapolis Metro Area
Annually top 5 Realtor in Indiana
Top 50 realtors in Midwest US
Named one of Indianapolis Business Journal’s top Realtors each of the last 10 years
Johnson County Realtor of the Decade 2020
There are now 4 office franchises of Jeff Paxson Real Estate.
JeffPaxson.com
317-679-2121
"A Message to Garcia" is an article written by Elbery Hubbard in 1899 that is still heavily referenced in the military and private sector today. It is a story of a lieutenant tasked with a seemingly impossible mission who carried out his orders with no guidance. The story became a rallying cry for military leaders and corporate executives alike. Frank and Ian dive into the facts and myths about this article, and how the lessons might still apply today.
Also in this episode:
Locus of control is the degree to which people believe that they, as opposed to external forces (beyond their influence), have control over the outcome of events in their lives. The concept was developed by Julian B. Rotter in 1954, and has since become an aspect of personality psychology. A person's "locus" (plural "loci", Latin for "place" or "location") is conceptualized as internal (a belief that one can control one's own life) or external (a belief that life is controlled by outside factors which the person cannot influence, or that chance or fate controls their lives). George Costanza of Seinfeld fame is a classic example of someone who lives with a mindset that nothing is in his control, and nothing is fair.
In this episode, Frank and Ian break down the tangible value of mindset in relation to careers:
"So you're saying I'm a clown? I make you laugh. I'm here to amuse you?"
~Tommy DeVito, Goodfellas
Why don't more people list "sense of humor" as one of their strengths on a resume? In our opinion, managers and employees who could make people laugh were also some of the most successful. In this episode, Frank and Ian look at the benefits of humor in the workplace.
In this episode:
Frank and Ian gave up on the Detroit Lions or Miami Dolphins winning a Super Bowl long ago. Instead, we revel in the pomp and circumstance of the NFL Draft, when hope springs eternal and our teams make highly questionable decisions on personnel. In this episode, we break down our top lessons from decades of watching this bloated spectacle that has done little to change the fortune of our favorite football teams.
In this episode:
The peak–end theory is a cognitive bias that impacts how people remember past events. Intense positive or negative moments (the “peaks”) and the final moments of an experience (the “end”) are heavily weighted in our mental calculus. In this episode, we look at how this psychological bias impacts our careers and how companies can use the rule to attract and retain more customers.
In this episode:
How much time do we have left? In this episode, we break down the second half of our lives by looking at how many of our favorite experiences we have left. How many more times will we watch a Super Bowl? How many more fantasy football seasons? How many more times will Ian eat pizza at Lombardi’s in NYC? Frank and Ian use this exercise to dissect how they are spending their time more deliberately.
In this episode:
People tend to fall into two categories as decision-makers. The first group is maximizers, those who strive to make choices that will return the maximum benefit. Then there are the satisficers (made-up word blending satisfy and suffice), those whose choices are determined by more modest criteria and nothing more. In this episode, we look at both approaches' ramifications and reflect on critical decisions we've made in our own careers.
In this episode:
Careers are not linear. We might feel societal pressure to make every move based on real or perceived progress, but is that realistic or even rational? In this episode, we look at multiple scenarios where taking a step back or down is the best move for your long-term career. Frank and Ian discuss the times when they made non-obvious decisions that set up much bigger moves down the road.
In this episode:
· What if your industry is changing/shrinking?
· How to spot a rocket ship and when to jump on one
· What it means to take a job to get "close to the sun"
· Choosing pay over fancy titles
· How a step back could restore your career
· Do you work in a department with upside?
· The role of ego in career decisions
· A 10-year decision looks very different than a 10-month decision
· What's your driver?
o Power
o Knowledge
o Pay
o Purpose
In this two-part episode, Frank Cava and Ian Mathews break down every detail from a $10M real estate project involving 75 single-family homes in Richmond. This is our first podcast episode where we film together in the same room, using Frank's paparazzi film crew and editors. We share every granular detail of how we identified, negotiated, funded, executed, and celebrated a deal that was incredibly profitable to us and the investors who helped us fund the deal.
In this episode:
· The power of patience when working in real estate
· Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered
· Caring about your investor's money more than you care about your own
· The best way to get a second deal is to perform well on the first
· Why you should stop to celebrate a big win appropriately
In this two-part episode, Frank Cava and Ian Mathews break down every detail from a $10M real estate project involving 75 single-family homes in Richmond. This is our first podcast episode where we film together in the same room, using Frank's paparazzi film crew and editors. We share every granular detail of how we identified, negotiated, funded, executed, and celebrated a deal that was incredibly profitable to us and the investors who helped us fund the deal.
In this episode:
The power of persistence and follow-up to find great deals
How a great partnership drives an equation of 1 + 1 = 3
How the deals you close are closely linked to your ability to execute
Profits are made when you buy, not when you sell
How to raise private capital from wealthy investors
What happens when a profitable deal gets hit with a pandemic
How to communicate to investors when a deal starts to go sideways
We're breaking tradition and interviewing our very first guest! Given the meager budget for this fledgling operation, we searched for a future star that we could afford today. Yoni Katz is a 12-year-old entrepreneur and a big fan of our podcast. He is starting several businesses and wanted to get our insight. Little did we know that Yoni would teach and inspire us more than we could help him!
In this episode:
· Building a personal brand at any age
· How to price your first products/services
· Small business guerrilla marketing
· How to work referrals
· Playing to your strengths
· The difference between features and benefits
· Pricing based on the value you provide
· Investing at a young age
We continue to follow the meteoric rise of Jeff Bezos and his growing juggernaut of a company. This second part of our series starts with Barnes & Noble threatening to crush Bezos if he doesn't sell out. Like most decisions Bezos makes throughout his career, he calmly rejects that offer and doubles down on his belief that Amazon can change the landscape of American business. From tech startup to the largest company in the world, we dive into the growing pains and changes Amazon needed to make with people and strategy to create a business that changed the world.
We’re suckers for a good “rags to riches” origin story of a scrappy founder stepping out into the abyss. What makes the story of Jeff Bezos and Amazon so intriguing is how comfortable Bezos had it when he went all-in on this company. In this first part of two episodes, Frank and Ian work through the early days of Amazon and find dozens of parallel lessons for any ambitious person looking to build a career.
“The Everything Store” is a fascinating look into an American business icon and we break down every juicy bit in this two-part series.
Frank recalls the story of Owen Meany, a character in a book he read as a young man that somewhat imperfectly explains how hidden talents emerge when you least suspect them. In this episode, we talk about the importance of practice and repetition to master any skill professionally or personally.
In this episode:
· Past behaviors are an accurate predictor of future performance
· Skills translate across industries and from company to company
· Go where a company values (and pays) for your specific skillsets
· Your performance certainly won't speak for itself (you need to be a marketer)
· Get results, but do it in your unique way
· You can't expect to catch much fish with only one hook in the water
"No enemy is worse than bad advice."
~Sophocles
In a culture where anyone can publish anything with no more experience than an internet connection, certain platitudes are taken as gospel. With thousands of "life coaches" posting advice, the same tired advice gets repurposed ad nauseam. In this episode, Frank Cava and Ian Mathews take a contrarian stance on some commonly accepted wisdom.
In this episode:
· Maybe you shouldn't "follow your passion"
· Hard work alone has a ceiling
· Translating what a manager really means when they say you should "be patient"
· What goes unspoken when someone tells you that "you can be anything you want to be"
· Why balance is only a function of your ambition
· How to explain a short stint on your resume
· If you don't toot your own horn, who will?
· No one wants to hear how things were done in your old company
When you need to be productive, what type of music does it for you?
Ian bangs out hip hop while Frankie hee-haws along to the banjo. This argument has gone nowhere for years but that all changes with this episode!
Your fearless co-hosts each pick five of their favorite songs for career inspiration. Two men enter this podcast, but only one emerges victorious. Follow along as they break down classics from Biggie, Charlie Daniels, Tupac, and Alan Jackson, pulling career lessons from classic lyrics.
"Our ego is our silent partner--too often with a controlling interest."
~Cullen Hightower
The mere mention of the word ego conjures images of self-loving, selfish maniacs who would stop at nothing to bolster their own self-image. Here we make the clear distinction between ego, a person's self-esteem, and an egotist, a person wholly consumer with self-importance. Without the ego, there would be no success. What would drive us to fight through resistance, to risk failure, to persevere? We look at how a person can use their ego aspirationally without letting success get to our heads.
In this episode:
The coach of an NFL football team hired a strength and conditioning coach, and all hell broke loose. Frank Cava and Ian Mathews break down how this questionable decision went horribly wrong and play Monday morning quarterback on what the Jacksonville Jaguars and head coach Urban Meyer could have done differently.
"Fredo, you're my brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever."
~Michael Corleone
This is the climactic conclusion of our leadership series on the most famous crime family in cinematic history. We bring this trilogy home in style, all the way up to Michael's big finish during the baptism.
In this episode:
· The cold truth about getting a new manager
· Only fools (like Moe Greene) get emotional when negotiating
· Has your mentor been through enough battles to be your "Consigliere?"
· The one time a manager won't ever give you a second chance
· It is easy to let power go to your head
· All new leaders want to put their personal stamp on a business
"I don't like violence, Tom. I'm a businessman. Blood is a big expense."
~Sollozzo
Act II of our homage to an all-time classic is filled with drama, suspense, and succession planning! Frank and Ian continue to pull lessons from the Corleone family business in Part 2 of our podcast trilogy.
In this episode:
We dig into the mania behind the Reddit mob fighting against Wall Street short-sellers and compare it to other bubbles and manias. In particular, we see a close connection with the dotcom bubble and real estate crash of 2007.
“Leave the gun, take the cannoli.” ~Clemenza
It would be fair to assume that Frank Cava and Ian Mathews started a podcast just for episodes like this. While most see The Godfather as a gangster movie, Frank and Ian see a masterclass in business. In true Godfather fashion, they recorded so much content that they needed to break this episode into a three-part trilogy that Francis Ford Coppola would be proud of. In this episode, they discuss key concepts, such as asking for favors, the only thing a manager wants to hear when they delegate something, your star performers might not make great managers, and losing your temper quickly loses its effect when overused. They also touch on taking advantage of downtime in your career – it is okay to “go to the mattresses!” as well as how Frank used an interviewer’s ego to win his first VP promotion.
"If I go there will be trouble
If I stay it will be double
So you gotta let me know
Should I stay or should I go?"
~The Clash
It's that time of year when people get the itch to find a new company. Frank and I take an objective look at the biggest of career decisions.
In this episode, we cover:
“If you are afraid of confrontation, you are not going to do very well.”
—Bill Parcells, Hall of Fame football coach
Think of any mentor you've had in your entire life. Whether it was a parent, teacher, coach, or manager, they probably had a special way of getting under your skin. They coached hard, not mean-spirited, but demanding in a way that convinced you to raise your personal standards. Tough coaching gets a bad rap today, but Ian Mathews and Frank Cava make a case for a style that got the most out of us:
Also, in this episode:
· "You can't be tough on Millennials" and other nonsense myths
· You have to earn the right to be tough
· The problem with emulating famous coaches
· There is a time to be tough and a time to back off
· Managers who mask their insecurities with "toughness"
· What it means to be "pleased, but not satisfied"
· You can be tough and still be likable
· Criticize in private, protect in public
· You can be tough on any generation
· Passive-aggressive is not the same as tough; it's the opposite
· How to praise a star in public
“The world is so beautiful, but alas! There are so many assholes.”
― M.F. Moonzajer
You won't get through your career without working with some truly terrible people. How they get into organizations is a topic for another episode, but in this episode, we dive into their impact on team dynamics, how to survive working beside them, and what to do if you are their manager.
Also in this episode:
In this episode, Frank and Ian can hardly contain their man-crush for legendary investor and CEO, Warren Buffett. Only the truly dedicated will invest $5,000 and an entire weekend in Omaha to listen to Warren opine for six hours at the "Woodstock for investors." We talk about the day we spent at the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting and all of the other lessons we've learned from our hero.
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Are you too hard on yourself? Do you spend too much time fretting over the past? You're not alone. In this episode, we talk about how top performers tend to be overly critical of themselves. This drive leads to incredible results but also contributes to a regular feeling of emptiness. We talk about how to cut yourself a break and celebrate more small wins, rather than lamenting big losses. We also dive into how to lead high achievers who are much too hard on themselves.
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Do you struggle to set and hit goals consistently? Are you putting off something important because you can't get started? You're not alone. One study found that 92% of people surveyed failed to live up to a New Year's resolution. We talk about the psychology behind goals and the power of creating simple, achievable habits instead.
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How to start with one simple daily habit
Why goals aren't real until you share them with others
Goals and written goals are two different things
The Seinfeld Strategy
Why your Plan B is likely holding you back
How to find an accountability group
"Don't turn one error into two errors"
The importance of positive streaks and how to break negative streaks
A simple process to find a new job
We might have started with nothing, but we do not consider ourselves "self-made men." We've been blessed with incredible role models, mentors, and diverse sets of leaders. We've learned as much from the advice we took as much as the advice we passed on. In this episode, we talk about the advice that truly changed our lives and offer our thoughts on how to interpret and act on the advice in your career.
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Do you feel as if you are underpaid? Frank and Ian talk about the best approaches to use with your company. We have been approached countless times for more money. We believe that timing, delivery, and judgment play a major role in how successful you will be.
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Frank and Ian compare their floundering fantasy football team management to the world of business. Fortunately for Frank, he is much better at execution with his business than he is with his fantasy roster.
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Over the past 25 years, Frank and Ian have hired hundreds of people. Some were exceptional while others were spectacularly terrible. In this podcast, we break down our hiring miscues in hopes that you might avoid some of our pain.
Frank Cava runs a vastly profitable and growing real estate business. But when he left a cushy executive job in 2010, he had an old truck, a couple of townhome rentals in Charlottesville, and plenty of free time. In this episode, we explore what Frank might have done differently when starting his business, based on what he knows today.
A theme that Frank and Ian notice in successful people is a propensity for action. Rather than tinkering forever on the creative process, they get to a 70% solution and test. Seth Godin calls this endless tinkering loop a “failure to ship.” In this podcast, we explore the psychology behind procrastination and talk through the real-world ramifications and rewards of mastering this problem.
We started with a podcast about “dumb things we’ve said as managers,” but quickly realized the content would fill an entire season. So we went with an equally important topic about the things we weren’t confident or perceptually aware enough to say as young managers.
In this show, we use an example of Ian’s horrendously bad golf game to illustrate a common problem people face in their careers. Self–handicapping is a cognitive strategy by which people avoid effort in the hopes of keeping potential failure from hurting self-esteem.