The BadChristian Podcast: Recent Episodes

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Matt, Toby and Joey discuss funny, controversial, and personal stuff with guests from the music business, leaders in the Christian world, and interesting folks from well outside of the Christian world. In other words... REAL TALK. | Bad Christian The language and topics used in this podcast are for mature listeners. Listen at your own discretion.

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On this episode the guys take about how being older and being into lawn maintenance is actually cool. Also fasting makes you sad. Maybe food is just a tool to run away from the pain. Also check out Emerymusic.com for our new merch line!

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On This Episode we find out that Matt can’t be on time and is no respecter of time. Toby shows his marching band photo from 1991 and the guys are, and aren’t, worried about their kids growing up.

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Riding through the middle of nowhere Texas, has us thinking about relationships, proper hugging etiquette, and Matt’s Birthday!

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Everyone wants to hear from us about what the future will look like! So we oblige! Will emo matter in the next few years? Will Donald or Kamala become emo? Is AI emo? We have all the emo answers and more!

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Tour is an animal that brings you joy and fulfilment but also makes men in their 40s feel like men in their 40s. Whats the longest amount of time you’ve been away from home over the course of a year? Is traveling constantly something that is amazing and healthy or more like A debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden?

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You ever heard of a third eye well devin has a stink eye. We get into the weeds about touring and being dads. Getting older is easy, it’s the getting colder that keeps you up at night.

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On This show the boys talk about your mom. She’s sooooooooo awesome and we love her to death but also…..she farts a lot. Like uncomfortably a lot. They also gossip a lot about Stephen Christian and Matty Mullins. Not really but man could they.

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The boys are back from tour. Devin shows up 3 mins late and gets fired. Toby talks about pre work. Work you have to do before you do the job so that you are set up for a win. Obviously Devin doesn’t have the same work ethic. But seriously Devin amitrite?!?

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In the episode Matt joins the Nostalgic Emo Dads to react to their episode and set straight some of the philosophy and decision making that is the Emery way.

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Matt: I recently encountered this deep dive on Emery's catalog and career from the Nostalgic Emo Dad's podcast. It was such a trip to hear real fans speaking very honestly about our life's work both positive and negative. After I heard it I hit them up and told them I wanted to do an episode reacting to theirs with them. I loved hearing it and thought the fans of this pod would like to see where they agree and disagree with these takes. This is the original episode of theirs, and to follow will be the episode with me and them together.

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Gawking at genitals, AI deep fakes getting people, should homeless people go to jail in Oregon and so much more! The guys are on fire for this episode and so grab a drink and some popcorn and let’s go!

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On this episode Lavar Burton stops by to talk about the importance of creativity in writing hardcore songs. But you don’t have to take my word for it. Also devin talks in depth about Ukraine.

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Have you seen The Macropodine Inclusive Labefaction Festival Announcement!?!?! Emery is not on it even though we really had high hopes to play that fest and let us tell you people are angry we aren’t. We talk about those angry milfs and also give thanks for being the 4th best band ever according to most polls.

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On this episode the guys talk about hunting tuna in the Berring Strait. Devin relives his chance encounter with Barron Trump and Matt talked about changing the bearings in his 1995 Suzuki. Also Join Emeryland!

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Is touring over? Are ours bands over? Are the guys jaded? On this episode the guys are joined by Aaron Gillespie to talk tour life, music industry realities, and why Toby is the Taylor Swift of eating donuts.

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The conversation continues with this sneak peak of Songs & Stories Part Deux. Head over to Emerymusic.com to join Emeryland for weekly bonus podcasts, exclusive offers, exclusive Emery performances, and a lot more!

Toby has about five new business ideas every week. This week he took a leap of faith and bought Hawthorne Height’s screen printing rig, so now what? Now that the stakes have become real his motivation is real and his self talk is moving in a positive direction.

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Toby has about five new business ideas every week. This week he took a leap of faith and bought Hawthorne Height’s screen printing rig, so now what? Now that the stakes have become real his motivation is real and his self talk is moving in a positive direction.

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If we told you there were 300 billion stars in the universe you would believe us, but if we told you the paint was still wet you would have to touch it to believe us. So, your mom, who is so old that when she was born the Dead Sea was still just getting sick, shouldn’t listen to this.

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Is it the end? What steps do you need to take to not only survive the coming maelstrom but how to make sure you get to heaven instead of the other place. Also we talk about touring!

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The guys get real about what the political imbalance in the emerging nations has done to create a divided chronomonical system. Just kidding.

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This week Toby says he has nothing to talk about. But that ain’t true! The boys discuss words you can and can’t say and how much language and culture influence how we see the world.

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The guys are here to deliver the news you need and the other networks avoid. Join us for stories that will make you think and stories that will make you cry and stories that will make you join EmeryLand!

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Set list!

On this live episode we discuss our upcoming Songs & Stories set list. There’s a few surprise songs!

Also, we have An update about The Weak’s End merch and how much all of our old records help us continue to be a band today.

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This week your favorite 3 old men went live on the Facebooks and showed new merch designs we might use for The Weaks End which is 20 years old! Come join us as we pullback the curtain and send us your favorite designs!

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We took a much needed break but are coming in hot for the New Year. Let’s get existential, exegesis, and extra crazy!

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Matt, Toby, and Devin get real, get honest, and toasty…maybe. Being in a band, being a dad, being below average IQ isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. This is a fun episode you don’t want to miss cause we are all over the place and you will see if we can land it.

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This week the guys are busy cooking turkey and rehearsing for their next tour. Please enjoy this classic episode from the vault!

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We give two new bands a chance to test fate and see if they can withstand a barrage of our criticisms. Join us for a laugh out loud episode and send in your music!

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This week Toby brings the heat with news you need now. From Floridians falling from the sky, to lottery heartbreak you do not want to miss this. We also talk about Mark Driscoll and how churches and pastors can turn their eyes from real issues.

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Ever wonder what Matt gets up to when he’s not podcasting with the guys? Surprise! He’s podcasting with other people. Please enjoy this crossover episode of Labeled, Matt’s other podcast (it’s okay, we’re not the jealous type). On this episode Matt interviews Garrett Russell, singer of Silent Planet, about crashing their van in Wyoming, their new record “Superbloom”, and highly evolved beings called “ultra-terrestrials”.

If you like what you hear, please subscribe to the Labeled podcast!

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On this episode we draft our favorite songs to get blitzed to. We’re talking Classic Rock, Rap, pop, and more! Join us as we go down the rabbit hole.

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The guys reflect on the early days of Emery doing whatever it took to get signed and how that hardly even matters anymore. Devin and Toby saw a scary movie for the first time in a while and the guys throw a couple bands on the fire for a good ole roast

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Matt McDonald from the Classic Crime joins the show to talk about life, fasting and doin g hard things for future you.

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The guys are joined by Stephen and Brennen from Haste The Day. We reminisce about touring together, tour pranks, how good Furnace Fest was for them after not playing for 8 years and our upcoming huge California shows.

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On this episode we roast two pretty damn good songs but also help these bands realize they will never be Emery or NickelBack. We also talk life, movies and so much more. Just play the episode and quit reading this.

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On this episode we talk about how we grew up with agendas within the church and how now we are worried proselytizing a pushing agendas might be in many places and not just Sunday morning. We also talk about a lot of other sh%z. So listen and subscribe!

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And by a custom song at emerymusic.com too!

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Enjoy this bonus episode of Part Duex. If you enjoy this bonus episode and want extra content every week, head over to emerymusic.com and sign up for EmeryLand today!

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This week please enjoy one of our classic episodes!

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The inaugural episode of It’s All Over is here! Devin, Matt, Toby, and their sad friend Lundsford talk about life, Tim Lambesis’ new wife, high thoughts and much, much more.

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FROM THE VAULT - Please enjoy this rebroadcast of one of our all-time favorite episodes this week!

As DIY musicians, we've been fans of The Hard Times for awhile now, so it was a pleasure to have Matt Saincome on to talk about his use of comedy and their non-political way of testing what material gets used or not.

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After Devins trip to Mexico he can’t stop listening to Mexican music. The guys discuss their favorite foreign styles and Toby delivers some of the hardest hitting news ever.


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On this episode the guys talk about their recent trip to the spa, their alien sighting while at Is For Lovers Fest, and much, much more!


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On this episode we draft the worst band members by instrument. Who will be the worst guitarists, bassists, drummers, singers, and even the whole bands!?! Buckle up cause this gets wild.


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CROSSOVER EPISODE with Toby's other podcast SEX 101!

How many positions can you try in one night? Hey, hey, hey! Just try one maybe? Either way this episode give you some great sex positions to try no matter if you’re athletic or like Toby and have an amazing Dad Bod!

Send your listener questions, that are answered anonymously each episode,  to toby@marriagesupply.com  or stormy@lovedeeplab.com

Also send us topics you would like to see us cover in an episode and we will do so! What do you want to learn more about? What is a question you have in the bedroom but might have been afraid to ask?

To start practicing better intimacy, download Dr. Stormy’s FREE interactive intimacy guide here: www.lovedeeplab.com


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What brave bands sent in their songs for us to devour this week? Well you are about to find out. It’s Rock-N-Roast time


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On this live episode we show you the demos for our new record. They are rough and rowdy but we know you’re going to love them just as much as we do. So come join us and hear the new songs before they are recorded.


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We play some new music, in its embarrassing demo form, but we do it! We want to share with you where we are at and where we are headed musically. So buckle up cause you probably have never heard Emery like this.


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On this episode we tell stories from behind the scenes of making In Shallow Seas We Sail. We break down song lyrics, song composition, where we were at mentally and emotionally and so much more. You don’t want to miss this special episode.


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Our best friend Matt Macdonald from The Classic Crime stops by this week to discuss touring this summer, making records, and of course we have two new victims to who sent in their masterpieces for us to demolish. You’re gonna love it.

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This week Kervin from the podcast This Week Explained stops by to challenge Toby to a News battle. Kervin picked the wrong MF’er to mess with. Sit back and get ready for world news, music news, and watch the master teach the student how to deliver the info you need.

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It’s Rock N Roast time again! This week we annihilate two more bands and also talk about touring and life. Remember to join EmeryLand because we do an amazing Music Draft that you don’t want to miss.

Songs And Stories is hitting the road. We'll be in:

Tuscon, AZ - May 25th

San Diego, CA - May 26th

Orange County, CA - May 27th Matinee Show

Los Angeles, CA - May 28th Matinee Show

San Fransisco, CA - June 21st

Fresno, CA - June 22nd

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So many of you sent us your band’s songs and so you asked for this! On this week’s show we destroy and try to offer some help for unsigned bands songs. The drummer from the band As Cities Burn says so many mean things and so may God forgive him and maybe the bands can too. Remember to subscribe and join EmeryLand

Songs And Stories is hitting the road. We'll be in:

Tucson, AZ - May 25th

San Diego, CA - May 26th

Orange County, CA - May 27th Matinee Show

Los Angeles, CA - May 28th Matinee Show

San Francisco, CA - June 21st

Fresno - June 22nd

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Songs & Stories is taking the week off so we're giving you one of Toby's favorite episodes from his new pod, Sex 101! Toby and his co-host Dr Stormy, provide you with the adult sex ed that we all need. And this episode is all about anal!

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Curious about the back door but don’t know where to start? In today’s episode Stormy and Toby give you the what, why and how of anal play.

  • Facts about anal play

  • Benefits of anal play

  • The prep is key

  • Tips and advice to make it amazingly pleasurable

The team also answers listener questions about what is “good sex”, fantasizing during self-play, how to talk to your kids about sex, and tips for public sex.

We love and welcome ALL your questions! Submit your question to be answered anonymously to ⁠toby@marriagesupply.com⁠ or ⁠stormy@lovedeeplab.com⁠. And feel free to email in with some sex ed topics and we will be sure to tackle in an episode.

To receive Dr. Stormy’s Sex drive building guide with worksheet, video and meditation just email stormy@lovedeeplab.com and she will send the guide.

Get 10% off at Marriage Supply with code SEX101

Follow Dr Stormy on IG @docstormy1 or TikTok @TouchySubjectsss and Marriage Supply on IG @the.marriage.supply.

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We all wouldn't be here without our moms but...damn do moms lie! Remember when she told you that you were special and that one day you'd make a difference in the world? Now you're on the couch watching Love is Blind and eating Totinos Pizza Rolls. This has nothing to do with the episode by man your life is going like you hoped.

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Songs and Stories is hitting the road. We'll be in:

Tucson, AZ - May 25th

San Diego, CA - May 26th

Orange County, CA - May 27th Matinee Show

Los Angeles, CA - May 28th Matinee Show

San Francisco, CA - June 21st

Fresno - June 22nd

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Toby broke down in Asheville NC while transporting all of Emery’s merchandise. He think God is smoting him because of his divorce. Also Mick Mars is suing Motley Crue and we talk about the time we went to Mick's house in Malibu and wrote some songs with him.

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Hawthorne Heights are so stupid. They are so dumb that they started their own festival. Yes, it is a massive success. Big whoop dee doo. Emery once had Dexter from The Offspring on our bus so we’re not sweating it either. JT from Hawthorne and Ben our mutual booking agent stop by to talk about how they Jimmy Eat World and so many other bands on these festival dates and how to run a successful Fest.

Toby is taking over shipping! We're celebrating with Toby's Big Package Sale! Get 25% off a collection of merch with code BIGPACKAGE now through Sunday

We're so hyped for all the Is For Lovers Fests we'll be playing at this year! Grab your tickets now

Toby has a new podcast called Sex 101 with Dr Stormy. It's pretty great and you should listen

Dr Stormy is having a sale on her CBD Infused Lube! Use code MARRIAGESUPPLY20 to get 20% off

Our collab with Sheet Happens is out now! Grab a guitar and bass transcription for Rub Some Dirt On It

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Our good friend Esteban of the band Slow Joy joins us to talk about how bands get found these days, how the music industry is changing, how to go viral with music and video and can bands make money these days. Also, if you're not a member of Emeryland, join now because you don't want to miss the bonus episode of Part Duex this week.

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On this episode we tell a crazy tour story about Matt passing out in a movie theater, Toby brings us some hot new Damn News including Boy George getting sued and we do a mini draft to decide the coolest baseball player from the 90s

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Our new EP that includes covers of Everlong, My Future, Superstition, and more is out now for Emeryland so join now! Tickets are selling fast for Seattle show on April 2nd where we will be playing Ins Shallow Seas We Sail in its entirety. Go to EmeryMusic.com for tickets

On this episode we tell some tour stories that involve alcohol and flashlights and Sloss Furnace.

On HighThoughts this week we discuss Spotify tracking us, how much money Emery would have made if they owned all their music and got a cut of the bar at shows where they brought 700 people, and how dogs are never wrong.

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What's the craziest DM you've ever received? The guys share theirs, with Matt's being very awkward. They also discuss renegotiating your marriage and making expiring marriage contracts. Lastly, Lundsford admits he's been stealing money from Emery for year just by being Lundsford.

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Matt Macdonald joins the show to talk about The Classic Crime's new album, Grim Age. We talk about all of us being on a "Christian" label, answer the most asked questions like where'd you get your band's name, and Part Duex gets even crazier so sign up for Emeryland! https://emerymusic.com/pages/join-emeryland

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The Music Draft is back! The boys take a break from the normal cutting up and are drafting Pump Up Songs. Make sure and go vote for who won start on Tuesday in the Emeryland or Labeled Facebook group.

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Special drop here. Devin and Matt got the chance to preview the FF lineup and have Chad Johnson and Johnny Grimes join the show so we could all react to it together. No Emery is not on it, but still, we love the fest and we love Chad and Johnny and just like talking about all these bands, the history of the scene and fest and the future of it all!

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We confront Chris from Emery because apparently he has been hiding songs and using them for his own band Surrogate. He even has a new album out called Space Mountain! Like WTF! We’re Emery dude, we’re old and we need all the songs we can get. Also, Lundsford’s band is still broken up. Hahahahaha!

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On this episode Joe Biden stops by to talk about Yemen, his favorite Hunter Biden stories, what is the deal with Putin, and how much of a relief it is to know Jesus is Lord. Also the guys talk about negative thought patterns that stop creativity and how Joe Rogan made fun of Toby for getting divorced.

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Playing living room shows has changed how bands can tour. The guys talk about how fun and memorable the shows have been and make the experiences so different for everyone. Plus we answer some Ask and You Shall Receive questions from listeners.

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What’s your personal studio like? What is it like to write a score for a movie? Will AI make human creativity obsolete? And High Thoughts!

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This episode the guys talk about the Devil’s Lettuce. Lundsford crap shoot of getting a good high or spiraling into panic. Also we have to bleep Lundsford and do the longest CTA ever. Part Deux is even crazier.

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The guys sit down with Kellen Quinn from Sleeping with Sirens and talk about being dads and not sleeping with groupies and how our music careers have changed throughout the years. Also, don’t miss Part Duex because this one is a Duexzy.

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Lundsford has lived with tooth pain for 2 years it’s finally time to face the dentist. Toby also has a scare with his eyesight. Matt is at his childhood home sneaking around going through his dads things and Devin proves he’s a better actor than Kevin Costner

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Instagram/YouTube Creator, Matt Cutshall, hangs with the fellas to talk about becoming a social media star, creating the Emo's Not Dead brand, and how amazing Emery is to the world, especially Toby.

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We look back on the year for the last episode of 2022. Devin’s dad and brother died, Toby got divorced and Matt is now his mother-in-law’s caretaker and best friend. So much happened this year, good and bad, including the birth of It’s All Over. Thanks for taking the ride with us. Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals

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Our good buddy JT Woodruff joins us to talk about the business side of music. We chat about their newly successful festival Is For Lovers, how DIY mentality sustains careers and why most bands are poor.

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“The Big Four” as Lunsford likes to call it, are drafting Christmas songs. Eventually Lunsford will have to get his own podcast feed for his new podcast, The Music Draft, but he wanted to bless you with quality content that isn’t Toby whining about his divorce. Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals.

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Our Hetero Lifemate Logan is back to talk about wieners only being for peeing

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The boys finally get their sea legs on the Emo’s Not Dead Cruise! Devin, Matt and Lunsford reflect on their many visits to the spa, while Toby talks about his naps, the buffet and not hooking up with any ladies

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In episode 2 of Sex 101, the Sex Ed you wish you had, we dive into the magic of the clitoris, including things you likely don't know about this amazing organ. We debunk a common sex myth, and answer a slew of the questions you all wrote in including rimming, sex toys, how to do dirty talk, and more!

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Tim from Underoath and Nate from Anberlin join us to talk about King State, their collaborative coffee and beer business that isn’t nearly as successful as our podcast. We have a helluva convo about When we were young fest, Live Nation, and our upcoming Christmas Songs and Stories at their brewery called The Brutalist.

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Toby feels too far removed from college so he’s going to start his own. The guys answer some awesome ask and you shall receive questions and toby is looking for a full makeover team to help him look his best.

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We talk to Kervin Aucoin, our friend and Intelligence Analyst (This Week Explained podcast) about Russia and Ukraine and it ain’t lookin good. Is Nuclear war imminent? How do we prepare for an uncertain future? Will Aliens step in and stop it or is it Game Over for the simulation?!?

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Sober October is upon us, Lunsford absolutely loves and has to spend money and Toby tries to make everyone cry with a sad announcement but nobody was really listening so tell us what he said.

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Sex. It’s such a small word but can cause big issues. That’s why Sex 101 is here to help. Each week Dr. Stormy and Toby answer your questions about sex, intimacy, communication, kinks, toys, and so much more. This week we discuss supplemental porn, how to bring up sex toys with your partner, and phone addiction. Dr StormyWebsite: www.lovedeeperlab.comTiktok: @TouchySubjectsssIG: @lovedeeplabGet 10% off at MarriageSupply.com with code SEX101Email your questions to us at toby@marriagesupply.com

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Old man Carter loves to eat and breathe heavily into the mic, Toby has been known to bury blunts and Dr. Stormy joins us to answer listener sex questions and also shares her 12 hour meditation experience

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It’s the inaugural music draft! Matt Carter and Devin Shelton join to make their picks for a team of songwriters from the Tooth and Nail / Solid State universe. Lots of weirdness in this one, as we are friends with and have played in bands with people who are eligible to be drafted.

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Some diseases and sicknesses you just got to milk. Toby has to show his belly to student doctors. Lundsford might owe the government a lot of money for his femur and he tells us about his time in New Orleans and Furnace Fest.

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Micah from Oh Sleeper, the better Aaron join us to talk about not trusting the medical world but also how good CBT Therapy has been so good. Also your stories and we sing an old Sea Shanty Devin wrote.

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Matt eats salt for fun, Gillespie’s hit stories, Satan is behind conspiracies, and would we live with a fan for money.

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The guys reminisce about how Devin quit Emery, Toby figures out he's been wrong for years about his love language, and Devin throws a rich ass house party and didn't invite Toby.

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Toby makes fun of how Lundsford spends his money, The Damn News, and we party pretty hard

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Let’s face it the only reason you listen to this podcast is Me, Devin, and Carter. Lundsford is a piece of S#@t. On this episode we talk about touring, how bad music fans are at sports, and how we most certainly have CTE.

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We re riding down the road in the middle of the California Desert so we decide to record a pod! We talk about ways we almost died, how Aaron has been working through some difficult weeks, and an insane bridge jumping story from an UnderOath Tour

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The guys find out who has the most streamed song ever and where does Memphis May Fire rank? Can Toby name all the song title off of Rub Some Dirt On It and we lead Lundsford to Christ.

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Toby doesn’t think Emery is anyone’s favorite band. Southern dad’s always let you know when Biden has Covid. Matt belittles breakfast foods and Devin isn’t having it. Also we lead Lundsford to Christ.

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Matt Ridenour from Hawthorne Heights hangs out! We talk about how the lyric “Hey There” is a key to writing hits, High Thoughts, clubbers send in foreign words for nether regions and we lead Ridenour to Christ.

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We are the best comedians on the planet and this episode proves it. We bleep the good stuff because of Biden. Jesus is Lord.

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Mac joins the show and we talk about the horrors of social media, growing up with racists, and being in the two greatest rock bands of this or any other generation. Also, Lundsford shows up out of nowhere and tries to hijack the show.

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Aaron Gillespie is the best drummer and person named Aaron that we’ve ever had on the show. It’s just great to have an awesome Aaron for a change. Like this episode really made us happy.

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The inaugural episode of It’s All Over is here! Devin, Matt, Toby, and their sad friend Lundsford talk about life, Tim Lambesis’ new wife, high thoughts and much, much more.

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July 05 ATLANTA /Masquerade

July 06 COLUMBIA /New Brooklyn Tavern

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The BadChristian Podcast has been life changing. It’s connected more people than we ever thought it could and has had some really bad moments. Pun intended. Toby and Matt reminisce about BC’s history and discuss the present and future

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Anna Lembke is a psychiatrist, author, and Chief of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Dual Diagnosis Clinic at Stanford University. Almost sadly, she is a specialist in the opioid epidemic in the United States and her books include Drug Dealer, MD, How Doctors Were Duped, Patients Got Hooked, and Why It’s So Hard to Stop. We talk a lot about her latest book Dopamine Nation.

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Life is hard but The Big Show is here to help give you a million laughs. On this episode we discuss the God Tom Cruise. The Damn News takes some damn turns and we continue to make fun of Lundsford.

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Harvard Professor Arthur Brooks walked away from his extremely successful career at think tank in Washington DC because he realized he would be stuck. Stuck, unhappy, and unfulfilled. We can think that we must stay with the things that are working, but often times we are blind to the truth. There’s so much more out there if we’re willing to take a risk and live.

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Our old friend Logan joins the show to talk about why he hates Lundsford. Will they fight each other or will they love like our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. We also talk about how rich we never got with Emery and some old tour times.

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The intersection of faith and politics has never been more divisive and decisive as it is now. Author Brian Kaylor and the guys talk about Donald Trump winning the election, what will happen if he runs and wins again and how evangelicals can swing the elections. Do Jesus and our votes actually align?

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People hate Lundsford. Like our friends, hate Lundsford. But listen in while we deep dive into Lundsford’s Annulment and all that hate will be turned into just dislike. The Damn News has some pull-at-you-heartstrings zingers and new clubbers have us read their favorite Bible verses

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Stormy Hill of Love Deep Lab stops by the show to talk about her journey from a sexless marriage to becoming a sex coach for countless couples. We discuss how pleasure has been stigmatized and how we as sexual beings can regain what the world, church, and even our partners have tried to remove from us.

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On this episode Toby shares thoughts and ideas from his notes. The Damn News returns as a musical and the boys discuss Elon Buying Twitter and what Johnny Depp Heard?

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This was a bonus pod we did for the BC Clubbers but we wanted to put it in the main feed because we have an update about What Would Jesus Sell and we had a fun conversation.

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Dr. Douglas Giles is a professor and philosopher who believes deeply that we must always put our preconceptions aside and be open minded to the world or we will miss out on living a deeper human life. We discuss The Self and the boundaries of a person and how philosophy shapes the world.

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Data shows that people love dancing to nasty lyrics on TikTok, so Toby wrote some new music to see if the algorithm will work in his favor. We have a new segment called DadTalk about a day in the life of being a dad and the next KnuckleBreaker Challenge Announcement.

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Dr. Warren Farrell joins the show to discuss his book The Boy Crisis. Masculinity is often considered toxic and dangerous but why? How have so many men fallen through the cracks and are now lonely, depressed, sent to prison, or even worse. Dr. Farrell provides a plethora of data and information on how we can win back masculinity and help men live more fulfilled lives.

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This week our good friend and host of ESPNs Fantasy Show Daniel Dopp stops by to talk about divorce and if something he did was petty or cool. We also talk about Will Smith, living room shows, and even more! Hit play.

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Joel Hartse is currently the music critic at Christianity Today but has worked for many different publications and has a new book out called Dancing About Architecture Is A Reasonable Thing To Do. We have been harsh on critics of our music for as long as we have been a band so we a great conversation about how to give and receive criticism, what qualifies a critic, and music criticism as an art like the music itself.

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Micah from Oh Sleeper tells us one of the funniest stories we’ve ever heard involving a band dude looking for romance on a plane! Then private intelligence agent Kervin Aucoin joins us to talk about Russia. He participated in an OVERT anti Russian aggression campaign in Poland in 2018 and has extensive military experience and we ask him a billion questions. This episode is so good.

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Our old friend Carl Thomas from XXX Church stops by the show to talk about His new book When Shame Gets Real. Shame is a tool that is used abundantly these days and it’s hard to avoid the issues that stem from it. Carl says his book isn’t the only answer or way to handle shame but it’s a way to look at shame and healing

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Matt is happy that the pandemic is winding down and nothing else bad is happening! Oh wait. We discuss the proper way to say Nuclear, what type of person would want to be the president, Toby tries to tell the guys about Amazing Jonathan and we talk about drugs and the way they make you think.

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The Henson’s both pastor two churches in North Carolina. They wrote to us about wanting to listen to our thoughts about church, church culture, community, and what the future holds. We thought it’d be better to have them on the show! We don’t have all the answers but this conversation is the type that’s needed more today.

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John Cooper from Skillet said something like “Christians who deconstruct are buttholes.” We disagree. Also, VR is dominating, Devin butchers BC Clubbers nicknames, and we have to bleep Lundsford twice

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The ladies from The Minivan Mama’s Podcast stop by and we have a blast. We talk about Mormonism, parenthood, being vulnerable in a public platform, and a ton more. Also, they record from their minivan so they are more DIY than us! These ladies are hilarious and you don’t want to miss this conversation.

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This episode of The BigShow we talk about the Emo’s Not Dead Cruise that Emery is playing and how us being the biggest and most important band on the cruise probably helped sell it out. Also we discuss Neil Young and Spotify, Lundsford get’s edited for saying something horrific, and we play guess the top 10 most shared pieces of misinformation about the covid vaccine.

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This is just a bonus drop of a new project I’ve been working on that lives in the Labeled Universe that has a pretty good crossover with BC given that Underoath is the subject. This is the setup for a 10 episode series covering their newest record.

Coming off of “Erase Me”, the band was filled with conflict over sonic direction and personal issues. Underoath found themselves at a crossroads and were forced to dig deep and reflect on their history within the DIY punk & hardcore scene and the passion they felt at the inception of the band. With that focus, the band made the bold decision to not have any outside input from producers and set off on their own creative silo.

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Mike stops by and man do we have fun. This is three friends who don’t know much but have a good time talking about all we don’t know! We talk about are transitions in and through Christianity, how our podcasts have taken us places we never thought or didn’t want to go and we laugh a lot. You’ll love this episode so come hangout with us.

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In case you ever wondered how bozos like us put food on the table, the answer is that we have a membership model for both the band and podcast that is combined. Inside that membership there is what we call premium exclusive content. Right now Emery’s new album Rub Some Dirt On It has final pro mixed audio versions yet to be publicly released and lots of other stuff, and we make TWO additional podcast episodes weekly for members only that are more raw and real than even the main episodes are. There is a private member community as well, so please cancel your Paramount + membership and join the the new underground.

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Dr. Lewis is the first female and first Black Senior Minister in her church’s history. Located in the East Village, Middle Collegiate Church is a multiracial, welcoming, and inclusive congregation. Dr. Lewis has a new book called Fierce Love that tells deeply personal stories of abuse, love, overcoming prejudice and how Dr. Lewis wants to see religion as a healing force as opposed to a divisive tool.

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On this episode we talk about death! Can you name all the famous people who died in 2021? We also talk about how this is the best time in history to bet on yourself! What do you have to lose? Lastly, talk about how we put thousands of dollars in Crypto and DAOs and Matt Macdonald from Classic Crime and a crypto genius helps explain some things that Toby definitely still doesn’t understand.

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Devin and Toby are back from the casino and boy does Devin have a gambling story. Also, Toby tells the story about the second time he saw Matt cry. Lundsford remembers that he sucks and the guys talk about how they used to be poor and could only buy one loaf of bread and share it for a week.

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Rock bands are groups that live somewhere between families, companies, and cults. Talking about the relational dynamics in the new Beatles new docuseries series spawned further conversation about bands balance their egos

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George Mekhail lost a church when he led them to be inclusive to the LGBTQ community. He started Church Clarity but then eventually knew it was time to leave. He allows his curiosity and search for truth lead him towards what’s next. This episode is great for people who have or are deconstructing their faith and purpose and are asking the question “What happens when I move on?”

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Jon Seidl has worked with a ton of Christian leaders and influencers like Kirk Cameron and Glen Beck, but it wasn’t until he had a heartbreaking conversation with his wife that he realized he had to get some answers. Jon’s book, Finding Rest, is about how he was able to finally name his Anxiety Disorder and OCD to save his life.

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This episode was supposed to be a bonus episode for the club, but it got way deeper than we planned and after recording and wanted to share it to share some personal things and what’s happening to BC. Toby had a spiritual moment this weekend which caused him to have some deep and painful self analysis and helped him realize some things must change. Matt also feels much the same way. Though this discussion is off the cuff and totally raw, we hope it resonates with you and that you too can relate to how times in our life things must change.

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Zao is one of the biggest influences on Matt & Toby. They made an amazing special and the guys talk about how different and yet nerve wracking and amazing it is to play without a crowd. The guys also talk about bad band dude personalities from tours and where the music industry is headed

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Journalist, author, and sexual freedom philosopher Nicolle Hodges set out on a mission to redefine the concept of virginity as we know it - or at least what we think we know - and has paved a path of healing for herself and others in the process. In this episode, Mary Beth and Nicolle break down exactly what virginity means in our society, how it robs us all of the freedom to explore ourselves and our desires, and how we can take our power back.

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Micah from Oh, Sleeper is a big believer in collaborative group effort. His band Oh, Sleeper is an example of a very high functioning group. The members are all hyper specialized both in the creation of the music, recording and production, business, customized light show and live production and much more, but Micah's main passion is the creation process, building abstract worlds and writing. This fuels Oh, Sleeper’s album concepts, but Micah's dreams are well beyond that and he now is looking to spread his wings beyond the band and explore the world of creative writing with the same enthusiasm that gets a rock group started. This enthusiasm for groups and the encouragement/accountability that they generate is central to Emery, BC, the whole Knuckle Breaker Universe, and particularly the Knuckle Breaker Challenge which begins this Monday.

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The culture he grew up in tried to crush Ethan Thomas. Being gay and growing up in a conservative family and church in the 90s made Ethan become hidden and even resentful of himself. Why couldn’t he just pray the gay away? But somehow Ethan wasn’t crushed, he found a way to make it through and now can begin to finally live as the real Ethan.

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On this episode Dusty and Joe from Beloved stop by to talk about reuniting for Furnace Fest, not playing shows together in over 6000 days, and spooky stories that we’ve all experienced

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On today’s episode Toby talks with Dr Emily about why our sexual relationships can get so f@#ked up when all we want to do is have a good time f@#king. Toby gets pretty vulnerable and personal and talks about penis size…or maybe not you’ll just have to listen.

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Furnace Fest: This festival was unreal but also wore us out! We talk about the good the bad and the ugly moments from this weekend and how Devin had to soak his feet when he got home.

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Matt interviews Toby about the path that led him to become a worship leader and heavily invested at Mars Hill Church, what he experienced and the path that led him out of it.

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We're talking about our old tour stories, playing sports with Hawthorne Heights, bad injuries, the greatest inventions ever, and Emery's new Album Rub Some Dirt On It. You can watch the visual album this Thursday!

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This is an interview Matt did on the Two Week Notice Podcast. In this episode, he tells the story of how the band collectively made the decision to move to Seattle to pursue their career as musicians, and lived out of Matt's dad's business partner’s race car trailer. We also talk about Furnace Fest, the legend of Weezer & Ozma, traveling abroad, and more.

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Tommy Swerdlow has lived through the highest highs and lowest lows. After finding success as an actor and screenwriter for many of your favorite movies, Tommy tells us how his heroin addiction finally caught up to him. Swerdlow drew inspiration for his new book, Straight Dope, from his own personal life when he was strung out on drugs while simultaneously working on films such as Cool Runnings, Little Giants and more.

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On this weeks episode we talk with Dr. Gale M. Sinatra and Dr. Barbara K. Hofer why people often deny science and rely on their biases. How do you change your mind or stay in the middle and avoid choosing hard sides? We also talk about our own experiences with family and our church upbringing and why often it’s hard to go against your tribe. If you haven’t gotten tickets yet for our new visual album then get those at Momenthouse. http://Momenthouse.com/emery

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Craig Gross was the founder of fireproof ministries and XXX Church. He ministered to people in the porn industry and did years of speaking gigs with Ron Jeremy who he became close friends with. XXX Church made porn blocking software and was the first sponsor of the BadChristian Podcast.
Since we have last heard from Craig, he and his wife Jennette have experienced a tremendous amount of personal and spiritual change. They have ventured in cannabis and then psychedelics which prompted them to begin to deal with trauma they had both been suppressing.
This conversation is them verbally processing and catching us up on their journey so far while still clearly being in the middle of it. They speak freely and unfiltered. The content of the episode may be triggering to some and includes trauma, abuse, and conspiracy theory type content, most of which goes unchallenged.
We made the decision to leave the full episode uncut and unedited and will leave it to you to decide what to take in and how to process it.

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Did Josh Harris basically just write I Kissed Church Goodbye and try to sell it for $275? Will Delta be dealt with in schools? Is the best bathroom in America in Greenville SC? Find out that and more on this weeks Bro-Fest episode

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On this episode the guys talk about how the new MarriageSupply website is filthy but in a Christian way. The Damn News returns only to prove that China has all your records and that sign language can be very sexual. Then Toby proves that Lundsford is a creation of the Matrix.

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About a year before we started the BC Podcast Dave Tomlinson wrote a book called How to be a Bad Christian. We finally get the opportunity sit down with him and talk about how a Vicar in England could change the way church is done and how we can save Christianity

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Jules Evans is an author and researcher who found Stoicism during some of the darkest times of his life. After teenage years filled with drug experimentation Jules found himself lost and filled with anxieties, depression and other mental issues. His book Philosophy For Life tells of how ancient philosophies helped save his life and helped him regain and find who he was supposed to be now. In this episode we talk about Spiritual Bypassing, LSD and Ayahuasca, our personal Ecstatic Spiritual Experiences and much more. This episode is so dope.

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The Question is arguably Emery’s biggest record and one of the most successful sophomore albums for a band on Tooth & Nail. The guys sit down with Zac and Lief, the director and Art director of this special, to talk about the making of The Question Digital Event, how the music of our youth influenced us all, and why small cities often don’t understand the artists who live there. We go deep on some old Christian music and bands and also talk about how film and cameras have become more accessible to the masses. What used to cost millions can no be done for thousands.

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In The Night: Phinneas - The Fire Itself

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Cutting his teeth in the Christian music industry, Ketchum is an entertainment journalist who has helmed startup media outlets and national publications

He has done profile pieces with A-list entertainers such as Kevin Bacon, Adam Devine, Saturday Night Live cast members, best-selling authors such as Rob Bell, Matthew Quick, and Jonathan Merritt.

His new book details Ketchum’s time touring with Christian heavy metal bands and trendy non-profits. Namedropping: Seeking Creative Truth Through Trendy Altruism and Punk Rock is a fly on the wall perspective of trends in “hip” Christian culture told through the eyes of a self-doubting rock journalist begging to belong. Witnessing healings, demonic possession, and the ever-present rock star ego, Ketchum’s stories are hilarious and heartfelt.

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The guys talk about how marijuana affects everyone differently especially on a plane at 30k feet in the air. Also, Matt talks about how using his new Oculus goggles one and a half times has changed his life forever. Lastly, Lundsford claims that everyone on earth actually enjoys littering but thanks to the Libterds we can’t have anything!

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Tiffany Bluhm is an author and former pastor. Her new book Prey Tell: Why We Silence Women Who Tell the Truth. In this book Bluhm explores the more complex dynamics of power and abuse in systems we all find ourselves in while telling stories of how women have overcome silence to expose the truth.

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Mike Cosper is a writer and podcaster. He’s the Director of Podcasting for Christianity Today and the host of Cultivated: A Podcast about Faith and Work as well as The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. He's also the author of several books, including Recapturing the Wonder: Transcendent Faith in a Disenchanted World (Intervarsity Press). His other books include Faith Among The Faithless (Thomas Nelson), Rhythms of Grace and The Stories We Tell (both published by Crossway Books).
Mike also served as one of the founding pastors at Sojourn Church in Louisville, Kentucky, from which he launched Sojourn Music – a collective of musicians writing songs for the church.

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Oliver is the author of several books on happiness and productivity, including his new book, “Four Thousand Weeks”. He’s a journalist and writer that is making the case for rediscovering unfashionable old school psychoanalysis, and also writes about the discomfort surrounding creative work and relationships among other things. His new book is available for pre order now at OliverBurkeman.com

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Peter Berkman is a musician, songwriter, and writer. His band Anamanaguchi is a critically acclaimed indie group, but lately Peter has been diving more into thinking about how we experience art and how its relevant to our senses in the digital world. The guys discuss the ideas of Canadian philosopher and communication theorist Marshall McLuhan, and what the future holds for artists and creators in the digital world.

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Singer, songwriter, drummer, and frontman Aaron Gillespie of Underoath, The Almost, and Paramore fame joins the show to talk about how nobody actually likes anything, wanting to fight other little league dads, and fending off online haters and trolls. The guys talk about the future of being in a band, going virtual, and if touring will even be fun anymore.

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This feels like a classic 2015 BC episode. Anthony Wirth recently quit pastoring his growing church, a part of the Acts29 Church Planting organization Mark Driscoll started. Everything was going great until Anthony did a little reading and started asking questions like, why can't women be in church leadership, does God actually send you to Hell forever to burn, and are we actually predestined for a certain afterlife? The answers to those questions are too scary for many churches to address.

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Aaron wants to send his daughter to space camp but his wife doesn't trust NASA to take care of her. Money is fake and Matt mansplains currency and finances to Toby and Aaron. Bill Gates might be super evil but is it a net positive? Matt slanders some of your favorite celebrities including Brad Pitt and the lovely Kate Winslet.

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Heino Falcke is Professor of Astroparticle Physics and Radio Astronomy at the Institute for Mathematics, Astronomy, and Particle Physics (IMAPP) of the Faculty of Science at Radboud University in Nijmegen and is visiting scientist at the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy in Bonn. He studies black holes and high-energy elementary particles, using the entire range of theoretical, computational, observational, and experimental astrophysics. As a speaker and author, he is engaged in communicating science to the public.

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Nate Young started touring full-time with Anberlin when he was just a teenager. We talk about how they could never keep a guitar player, how Chopper being in Emery made zero sense to him, and about how bad of an idea it is to hire your friends as crew members for your band.

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In this episode, Mary Beth and the guys talk with therapist Meredith Munro about therapy during Covid, Dialectic Behavioral Therapy, and how AI might take all the counseling and therapy jobs.

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Matt loved Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and therefore is terrified by them. Toby wishes he bought more $WALLS. The guys ponder going to space and discuss the time that Aaron ran marketing and social media for 5 failing companies.

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“We All Know How This Ends” by end-of-life doula Anna Lyons and funeral director Louise Winter opens up the conversation surrounding death and dying, something desperately needed for those of us who tread lightly around the subject, if at all. Through a collection of heartbreaking, surprising, and uplifting stories of the ordinary and extraordinary they encounter each day, Anna and Louise share the lessons they’ve learned about life, death, love and loss, and encourage us to embrace the end of our lives the same way we embrace the beginning. Uniquely compelling and thought-provoking, We all know how this ends offers real-world insight and advice and proves why is so desperately important for us to engage in open conversations about death.

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Matt MacDonald from The Classic Crime joins the show to talk about band stuff and partying on tour and sex or lack thereof in our bands. Also, trying to introduce new things to fans is universally frustrating and usually devolves into being accused of “scamming your fans.” Aaron almost has a mental breakdown over the reaction to trying to sell his As Cities Burn book on their Facebook page.

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Ben Kirby became infamous for revealing how much pastors' shoes and clothing apparel actually cost. He’s now written a book about his experiences with going viral and how it’s affected his faith.

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The 69x Challenge is a discomfort management tool that we use to break out of our comfort zones and form the habits that we seek to gain and sustain. It can also be described as "a community based physical and mental challenge for misfits and fuckups"

If you are not interested in The 69X Challenge, please skip this episode. It is NOT a normal episode and you won't like it.

If you are already registered for the challenge, or are curios about it then play on!

This episode is a walk through of the rules of the game and how we will evaluate and score ourselves and a little how the teams will work. I thought the best way to do this would be to get with Devin and Caity, who often help push me through work and think through detailed things, and make sure that the rules makes sense. So this is just a conversation we were already gonna have about the rules and I thought it could be useful as many people might have the same questions and reactions as Devin and Caity.

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MB and Kara join the podcast to talk about Kara’s Canadian origins and her experience living in an RV for a year as well as her past experience with drug addiction. Also discussed is the realization that no matter what, you end up being like your parents. Check out Kara’s podcast, The Conquest of Bliss - link below.

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The guys talk about how there is no better feeling in the world than a show getting cancelled. They discuss the power dynamics inside Emery, Aaron’s wife talking more than Matt, and whether or not Devin’s wife looks down upon all his friends with disgust.

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Brenda Marie Davis was a good Christian girl. She had the purity ring, she was a faithful leader in school, and thought she was doing the Lord’s work. That was until she couldn’t hold the weight of Evangelism anymore. In this episode, we talk about the idolizing of sexual purity and how the church taught us sex equals sin.

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Tooth & Nail: The Undertaking "No Friends"

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After discussing the size of Mega Pastor penises in the BC club episode this week, Matt poses a question to the group about donating an inch of your penis to your son. The guys talk more about the BCx69 and how this time the change is for real. Toby refuses to watch “Breaking Bad”.

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Mark Crispin Miller, a professor of Media Studies at NYU, has taught courses on the use of propaganda in media throughout history. The guys discuss the state of higher education, whether or not Bill Gates is an evil genius and some Hitler stuff. They also dive into the controversy surrounding Mark’s potential firing from NYU.

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Devin Shelton of Emery joins the show and he is very, very confused about a man who is turning himself into a boar. The guys talk standup comedy and the future of comedians and actors in the digital age. Toby complains about all the big bouncing asses interrupting funny videos on tiktok and Matt’s wife is mad every time he makes extra money.

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Grace Baldridge is the first openly gay artist to reach number one on the Christian Charts. She joins the show to talk about growing up as a pastor's kid, growing up mostly listening to Christian music, and the recording process for her album Preacher’s Kid.

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Robert Ross has a decade of “institutional” experience as a stock market analyst but this year he started using Tik Tok to teach people about stocks in a fun way. We talk about how to avoid blowing up your account, why he avoided the GameStop craze, and how he is still optimistic about the market long term. Matt and Aaron declare themselves official financial advisors.

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Tenured professor and author of Elephant in the Brain and The Age of Em Robin Hanson joins the show to talk about playing the game of life, how culture and government might keep us from exploring the universe, and how aliens might not be as interesting as we think.

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Zach, the founder of Mintable.app, joins us to explain what in the world an NFT (Non-Fungible Token) is and why they matter. We talk about the recent NFT that sold for $69 million and also some of the practical applications NFT's can provide via certifying the authenticity of physical items. Aaron listed an NFT of a picture pasta that is now up for auction on mintable.app and Matt thinks his guitar pedals might be worth something.

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In this episode, the guys talk about fetishes, fervent prayer, faith, finding God, and all the big F's. Also is prayer just a ritual or does it hold a more mystical application that connects us more deeply to God and each other?

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Will Lockett is a science explorer and a brilliant writer. He stops by the show to talk about all things in science from Elon Musk being King of Mars to deadly methane leaks in Antarctica.

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Ryan Burge and Mary Beth join the show to talk about the data of religion, politics, and sexuality. Christianity is changing rapidly and the more real and raw information we can collect, the better we can help change it for the good.

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Matt MacDonald of The Classic Crime comes on and the guys reminisce about the old tour bus. Aaron can't get his old job back, Mac teaches about NFT's, Crypto, and the coming financial apocalypse as Toby tries to figure out who the real creator of Bitcoin is. Bill Cosby and Barry Bonds are two of his strongest theories for the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.

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Dr. Angela Gorrell joins the podcast to discuss her book "The Gravity of Joy". She talks about her experience in dealing with the despair of losing a family member, then a month later losing her father to a fatal opioid addiction, and then her twenty-two year old cousin to sudden cardiac arrest. Her mission is to communicate to the world that it is possible to find joy even through mourning the unbearable circumstances that life sometimes throws our way.

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Mary Beth McCauley, a long time BC Club member, joins the show to talk about internet dating during Covid-19, growing up and finding herself, and Only Fans. Toby recounts taking his daughter to her first basketball game with a team full of giants and he is very very angry at these 6th grade girls that can dribble between their legs. Be prepared for multiple references to the hit Sly Stallone film, Demolition Man.

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Can movies with Christian themes actually be good? The creators and stars of the new movie Gun and a Hotel Bible join the show to talk about making a film on a DIY budget, how faith intersects with entertainment, and how movies will get made going forward.

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We catch up with our good buddy and talented film maker Brandon Vedder. He directed the documentary about Dave Bazan called Strange Negotiations which you can watch on Amazon Prime now. . This episode is so fun. Brandon is on vacation after an exhausting year and Matt and Toby are partying as always. If you like music, movies, and hilarious conversation then this is the episode to put on repeat.

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Ravi Zacharias is a famed Christian apologist who used his power and influence to sexually harass, prey, and manipulate women who worked for him for years before his death. Journalist Daniel Silliman, of Christianity Today, joins the show to discuss the shocking and disgusting hidden life of a Christian leader who lived a life more like satan than Jesus.

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Reva and Aaron know us better than most people because they have worked with us and seen us at our best and our worst. We talk about making music, getting sick on tour, and Reva’s brand new company Creative Media Support.

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How quickly will people give up their rights for safety? Would you let a chip be implanted in your body that stopped all theft and maybe crime in general?

Also, Barbara McHugh stops by to talk about her new book Bride of the Buddha. It's a fascinating story that is a mix of of fiction and non fiction that tells the story of Yasodhara who also sacrificed a lot to help the man who would become Buddha. In fact, she might have played a deeper role in women's rights and acceptance within Buddhism than we ever knew.

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On this episode Dan Koch tells us about a survey he has created to shed some light on a topic in Christianity that hasn't had much data collected or studied. Matt MacDonald from the Classic Crime also joins us and helps bring clarity to the ever changing cultural attitudes towards institutions.

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On this episode we talk with Francis Sopper the creator of an awesome new mental makeup survey called Kairos Cognition. This survey helps you recognize that your greatest ability is to transfer and manage information. It’s the foundation for everything you do. In order to make this happen, time, attention, and energy come into alignment. We also discuss the crazy stock market.

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All of Emery plus Aaron Lunsford hangout and tell stories from the road and life. Some of these are embarrassing but it all has led us here to The Weak's End special which comes out next Wednesday Jan 27th.

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In this episode we talk with Dan Koch and Sarey Martin about their new website soyouredeconstructing.com. This site is intended to help folks who are moving away from traditional Christian fundamentalism and into more thoughtful ownership of their faith.

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Leif Thomason is a film maker and director who oversaw and directed Underoath’s Observatory live specials and also directed Emery’s two new specials which air Jan 9 and Jan 27th. The UO Observatory shows were a massive success. We talk with Lief about the pressure of making these new online venues quickly for live music and pulling off audio and visuals in ways that haven't been done before.

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We don't talk about Christianity or our specific faith as much as we used to on this podcast. Mostly this podcast has been the journey of learning to let go of things that seem very important and unlearning the behaviors and patterns that we had been programmed with by our families cultures and choices.

This episode is one in which we have a conversation with the Provoke and Inspire Podcast as they question Toby and I though the changes we have made in our life and faith publicly and over time. The end of the year seemed the perfect time to air it as we look forward to a 2021 that we hope to make pretty fuckin' crazy. See you on the other side.

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Tooth And Nail: Hangnail "O Come All Ye Faithful" plus more Christmas music and merch sales online

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Dr. Robert Barrett and Dr. Louis Francescutti have written Hardwired which looks at how our deteriorating wellness is rapidly becoming a public health emergency. Our “caveman within” is evolved to hunt for any small morsels or measures of reward like sugar, fat, salt, sex, or social connection, our modern lives are overrun with daily stimuli that feed these senses to excess. https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hardwired-robert-s-barrett/1137079845 Tooth And Nail: Hangnail Christmas EP

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Dr. Jessica Johnson is a professor of religious studies at the College of William and Mary, and the author of Biblical Porn: Affect, Labor, and Pastor Mark Driscoll’s Evangelical Empire, where she chronicles the rise and fall of Mars Hill Church after spending years on the inside as a field journalist.

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Jonathan Mitchell is the award-winning writer, director, and producer of the fiction story-based podcast The Truth. He has contributed to RadioLab, Studio 360, This American Life, All Things Considered, and many more. His unique abilities and interests provide ripe ground for creating sound experiences that augment narrative storytelling.

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Walt Shelton and his new book, The Daily Practice of Life, really made an impression on us. Having a practice-oriented approach is essential for meaningful living, but is that realistic? Walt draws from Christianity and what Jesus's practice may have looked like, but also incorporates deep wisdom from other traditions that turn out to be quite compatible with Jesus's approach to life. This perspective is a very good fit for a deconstructed Christian looking forward.

In contrast to building walls with gates opening only to creeds matching one’s own, this book helps readers:
- create a personal routine integrating faith and practical realities - draw on past ups and downs to improve focus on now and offer hope for a brighter future
- turn life experiences into parables with wisdom for more informed choices
- open up and respectfully listen and learn within and outside our own tradition
- amplify commonalities that implement the heart of all authentic religions

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Matt MacDonald of The Classic Crime is closing out the Kickstarter campaign for their 7th full length album, and we spend an hour of procrastination talking about being older and what that means when you're an artist. The aging artist has lived their lyrics and still seems to be on a quest to find more.

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BadChristian isn’t a debate podcast, but when Alex Tsakiris of the Skeptiko Podcast and author of Why Evil Matters stops by to talk about how our consciousness lives on, Matt and Alex have a great time going back and forth about studies and experiments that prove or disprove life after death and evils influence.

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Michael Robison is a successful former pastor who tried to do everything he could to not be gay. But it didn't work! In this episode, we discuss the traditional roles of pastors and husbands and how the church can often try to suppress and hide the truth. How do you tell your wife, family, and congregation you have a secret?

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Republican Jesus is the new book by author Tony Keddie. Tony talks to the guys today about how American Christianity is a pawn in American politics and why Christians have adopted dangerous political leanings that look nothing like the teachings of Jesus.

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Toby hijacks the episode right away and becomes introspective about how his self narratives are also his own limits, but if thats true, then who is doing the limiting?

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Jim Giles is a journalist who investigates food consumption issues, food waste that is filling up landfills, and how the mass production of animal products is affecting the Earth's climate.

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Justin Dean was the Head of Public Relations for mega-church pastor, Mark Driscoll, from Mars Hill Church. In this episode, we talk about Justin's relationship with Driscoll, some of the issues that caused Mars Hill to implode, and the parallels between Mars Hill and our current mainstream narrative wars.

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We catch up with friend of the show, Tim McTague, on how he's been weathering the Covid storm, both as a small business owner in Florida, and as an innovative member of Underoath.

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Dan Koch joins the show to talk about the transformation that fatherhood has caused in him. We then speculate about the role of church in our and our children's futures with how the decline of the church as a social cohesion force may be replaced or challenged with numerous organizations, religions, and cults. This thought-line prompts the "bad cult member thought experiment" in which one seeks to analyze or overcome group-think associated with the social groups they participate in.

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Is Bigfoot a physical creature that disproves science, or a mystical spirit realm being? Nate Henry and Luke Rogers started their new podcast Blurry Creatures to explore these ideas and more. But first, we catch up with our old friends and share some hazy tour stories.

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As a professor of philosophy and cognitive science at Yale University, Laurie Paul's book "Transformative Experience," is an interesting bridge between religious and spiritual experiences that change the essence of who you are in a real way.

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Lindsay Manfredi is living her dream of playing with her favorite band, Cold, and has recently put out a book called "Unfuckwithable: A Guide to Inspired Badassery."

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Douglas Jerolmack is a Philadelphia professor interested in experimental geophysics. Toby was intrigued after reading a paper he did on mathematically demonstrating Plato's cube theory, and wanted to have him on to talk about his genuine interest in rock science.

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What has Tooth & Nail legend Aaron Sprinkle been up to for the last few years? We catch up on his life over the last few years, and examine the future of music given a recent debate over a statement from Spotify's CEO Daniel Ek.

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Host of the podcast, "A Christian Reads the Tao te Ching," Corey Farr thoughtfully considers concept written in the Tao te Ching and how they integrate with his Christian faith. He also works with Syrian orphans in Lebanon, not far from a massive explosion seen on international news this week.

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Data nerd and pastor, Ryan Burge, joins the show again to fill us in on some trends he's been seeing in how the pandemic has affected churches financially, attendance, and their relationship with government.

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Matt's has some things he needs to discuss: Kim Kardashian's mental health tweet, economy predictions, education crisis, and the arrival of unparalleled AI.

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You all know our good friend Devin Shelton, member of Emery and shipper of all BC merch. We discuss the album that changed our perspective on music creation, and why we want to update it now, 13 years later, and release it on vinyl.

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Friend of the show, Aaron Lunsford, shares his recent successes in playing the game of life.

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Front-man of Senses Fail, Buddy Nielsen has gone through a lot of change over the last 15 years, from coming out as bisexual, to changes in his spiritual life. We are happy to have him on and get to know him better!

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Stephanie Tait joins to fill us in on what's going on with a current scandal at Menlo Church that is seemingly being swept under the rug by the Christian media.

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Coming from the Christian rock world, Jon's announcement that he no longer believes in God made national headlines. Since leaving Christianity, he's actually been thinking about God more, and was surprised by the benefits of that come with doubt.

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Author and fellow podcaster, Debbie Reber, joins to talk through some neuro-divergent parenting styles, how women are often overlooked in the discussion, and why America should start addressing PDA (pathological demand avoidance).

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Our friend Jemar Tisby returns to the podcast . His book "The Color of Compromise," came out last year, but has found new legs in the current anti-racism movement, along with a new companion documentary of the same name.

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Dan Koch joins our verbal processing about the religious elements we are noticing in the conversation around racial injustice, which might actually be a good thing?

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Maryam Nayeb Yazdi found her passion for activism after spending years literally in the closet. She is the founder of Seed Operations, and Oslo's Women's Rights Initiative, which was founded on the idea that collaboration is key to supporting universal gender equality.

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Members of the BC Club decided to hold a zoom call on Sunday night to talk about the weekend's events and how the club has responded. We were pretty inspired by their open conversation about race, and decided it was well worth sharing (with their permission.)

Thank you to those of you who participated in the discussion, and to clubber Adam Rostad for additional editing.

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We've seen our good friend Andy Othling (Lowercase Noises) go through a lot of inner turmoil in the last few years struggling with mental health and faith issues, and he's ready to talk about it and share his "testimony" if you will, for the first time.

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Our talk with economist Robin Hanson, not very long ago at all, shaped the way we thought about the coronavirus before it was even a pandemic. Now we have a lot of updating to do, so we invited Robin back on to help us sort out the state of how things have actually played out thus far, and what could come.

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Dan Koch is in the middle of a PHD program, dedicating his life to studying and doing therapy in the Christian/post-Christian online space. The small, off-beat, corner of the internet, and a certain generation, is emerging to be a field of study with its own experts, and is a growing and perhaps pivotal group for the unfolding future. How all of this unfolds is very critical. As people leave the religion and church practices of the past, we see more and more that the religious tendencies built within us are not so easy to mute. Moving forward, we see new norms and tribes rapidly emerging with familiar human dynamics. It will be important to engage, participate, and even contend for this space to be healthy and balanced. But is that possible, or is it a losing battle?

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Heavyweight boxer Ed Latimore got a degree in physicals and mathematics while boxing professionally, and is now an author. This gives him quite an unusual combination of attributes that brings a unique perspective to the concept of discipline and learning.

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Daniel Dopp is a crossover guy, not only with music and sports, but also an indie to mainstream crossover guy. Daniel has been involved in putting out vinyl for acts like Chris Staples (twothirtyeight), Emery, The Classic Crime and the rest of the BC music family. He’s hosted house shows and promoted bands and their music since for years. Daniel moved into sports when he got an internship at ESPN in 2013, and is now on-air TV talent whose image is the bearded, tattooed, music guy who wears band shirts on every show. This conversation, also featuring Devin Shelton of Emery, is a very calibrating one that connects the small world that we all know all the way up to what is going on in the mainstream media in the pandemic and political era.

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As DIY musicians, we've been fans of The Hard Times for awhile now, so it was a pleasure to have Matt Saincome on to talk about his use of comedy and their non-political way of testing what material gets used or not.

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Gissou Nia is a human rights lawyer who helps us compare authoritarian states like China and Iran as an example of how leaders could use the vulnerability of a global pandemic to affect our rights.

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Data science and visualization is currently the most sought after and highest paying field there is. Our society is increasingly dependent on numbers and data, which has made two particular areas increasingly complex. There is the data that we all generate ourselves that now needs to be considered, its uses, value, and privacy, and secondly, in our information age, it is becoming ever more important to be data literate and know how to consume it and what to trust.

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We're giving you all a peak at what the BC Club gets every day! This is a fun conversation reminiscing on famous people we've run into at shows before, and tour culture.

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We made it to 500 episodes! Today's a party; we have Dan Koch, Matt MacDonald, Aaron Lunsford and Devin Shelton here to celebrate!

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Agnes Callard teaches Philosophy in Chicago, and is an author for Point Magazine. We discuss with her a couple articles from The Point in particular: Parenting and Panic, Thoughts and Prayers, and The End is Coming.

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Our first guest ever, friend of the podcast and lead singer of The Classic Crime, Matt MacDonald, joins to talk about how things have changed over the last six years since we started, and how he'll have to keep changing with the economy and virus outbreak threatening the entertainment industry. Also, Toby has some questions on #toosoon?

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Author of "Elephant in the Brain" and "The Age of Em," Robin Hanson, is one of the best brains on the planet with the most freedom to explore the things that interest him the most. In this case, that thing is the coronavirus.

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Business professor and author of "The Algebra of Happiness," Scott Galloway joins our conversation on the church being a professional content creator. We also get into his book on keys for happiness and how to best pick a life partner.

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Director Chris Sinclair joins to share his 8-year experience creating the documentary "Free Burma Rangers" which documents the life of Dave Eubanks and his family who started a movement of humanitarian aids in Burma and beyond.

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Toby found Professor of Religious Studies at Duke University, Jennifer Knust's, work one day when googling "premarital sex in the bible" and found her take refreshing and liberating when thinking about talking to his kids about sex.

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Matt found Aella through the rationalist twitter community and was intrigued by her statements on radical transparency and research polls targeting things traditionally thought of as taboo.

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Friend of the show, Dan Koch, joins to share some of his findings through a series he's been doing on his podcast, You Have Permission, about how growing up with "Left Behind" and an emphasis on end times theology have effected people into their adult lives.

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Documentary filmmaker Rex Harsin shares his perspective on gun control and filmmaking from his process of recreating Shane Claiborne's book titled "Beating Guns" into a feature length documentary.

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The show "Rick and Morty" managed to get Toby interested in science and multiple realities to the point where he researched some of the science found in episodes and found a book Matt Brady wrote "The Science of Rick and Morty" which goes to show how pop culture can be used as a trojan horse to science.

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The changing of the decade brings on a reflective sense of meaning and purpose that Matt explains using gazelles, pain, surviving, future you, and yes, transmogrify.

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Merry Christmas! We have sociologist Dr Michael Emerson on today to answer some questions about racism in the American Evangelical church and how it got that way.

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Friend of the show, Dan Koch, uses his new psychology studies to help us understand why there's a perceived gap between the study of science, and religion.

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Dr Ryan Burge is a "quant" political scientist, and a pastor. Through one of his articles on biblical literalism, Toby found a whole rabbit hole of intriguing data he's published about religion in America.

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With the death of religion as we knew it ten years ago, comes a new birth of substitute religions in politics, cults, conspiracies, and any number of things.

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We catch up with our friend Derek Webb, who had recently gotten divorced last time we talked, and now is re-married, and has a new album coming out. He's been an innovator in the music industry that we've followed the example of, so it's good to catch up and see what he's been doing lately.

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Hong Kong and China have had an ongoing political problem for awhile that we have no real idea of, so we asked Asia studies expert Elizabeth Economy on to help us figure out what exactly is happening over there and what it has to do with us Americans. Turns out, quite a bit.

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Brandon Vedder is the filmmaker of the full length documentary about Dave Bazan titled "Strange Negotiations." Dave Bazan and Pedro the Lion have always been the tip of the spear in vulnerability and being critical of ourselves and of our faith and its systems. Brandon spent years following and filming Dave and was able to capture some incredible insights during the process and conveyed in the film itself.

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Kristin Wallace has more initials after her last name than Matt or Toby have in their first and last name combined. She reached out when we got the terrible news about Jarrid Wilson and wanted to give some insight into the suicide discussion.

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We're giving you all a taste of what the BC Clubbers get four times a week with a daily dose episode from Tuesday where Toby gets his first video banned from TikTok.

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We react to John MacArthur's comments to Beth Moore to "Go home" aka stop preaching, and break down the audio clip that went viral from the conference.

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David Morrell is the author of the book "First Blood," which became one of our favorite movies ever, Rambo. He tells us in what ways they changed the dynamics the book brought out in generational relationships and the effects of war before PTSD was a talked-about phenomenon. He's been out there doing things his own way for so many more years than us, and encouraged us way more than just talking about some books he wrote.

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Dustin is the only guy we have these three things in common with: hardcore legends (Thrice and Emery), leaders at Mars Hill, and now, podcast hosts. Hear what he's up to now and check out his new podcast, Carry the Fire.

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We invited former Relevant Magazine's Managing Editor, Andre Henry, on to talk through the issues and nuances of his recent Medium article on the toxic culture in his old workplace, and the difference between intention and outcome when it comes to race.

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Our good friend Dan Koch did a bunch of research for his podcast You Have Permission on the history and effects of purity culture, so we asked him to share it with us.

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Our guest this week is Jacob Evans, a man who struggled with an opiate addiction, and now works at a recover center called Tree House Recovery.

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Author and investigative journalist, Nina Teicholz, has done the hard work of sorting out the truths and myths behind our nutritional guidelines and how a low-carb diet could change the state of America's health.

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Founding member of the band Mae, and psychedelic neuroscientist, Jacob Marshall, had one of the most talked-about conversations of this year's conference. I'm sure you can imagine why!

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Toby realizes that anger might actually be beneficial in that it frees up the barrier you usually have which allows you to freely express how you think or feel in a pointed way.

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We have AI Engineer, Tom Grek, on to explain to us how AI actually works, where it is, and where it's going.

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Toby deleted Facebook, which is giving him a new excitement for Twitter. He just can't get away from seeing how terrible the evangelical church and pastors are, this time it's an article about the Evangelicals mobilizing to get more people to vote #trump2020.

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Crisis Management Public Relations Consultant, Hunter Frederick, helps manage the public's perception of both celebrities and mega-pastors alike. On the surface, it sounds like a job we're obviously opposed to, but by the end of the interview, you'll see who's asking who for a job opening.

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Louis Jacobson is one of PolitiFact's Sr Correspondents, working on sifting through the clickbait in the news to see what is true verses what is a lie in the media today.

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Last time we had our friend Jaclyn Friedman, author of "Yes Means Yes" and host of "Unscrewed," on the show, she helped us update our thinking on sex and purity culture. This time she gives Matt a run for his money on the topic of voting when we get into sex ed and concentration camp border patrols.

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We've started the process of planning next year's conference now, so here's a taste of what this year's conference had to offer with our friend Brandan Robertson. Brandan is a pastor and LGBTQ activist bridging the gap between the evangelical world and freedom in sexuality.

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Coming from the Jesus Movement, full-time pastor and occasional author Brian Zahnd joins to talk about the religion of Americanism and the unintended truth-telling of the American church.

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Joey’s uncle wanted old-school directions to his house, even though he had an iPhone to easily type in the address like a normal human. According to him though, Joey was the dummy for relying on that dumb MAPS app. Matt gets excited about these implications. A simple choice the future generations will be faced with. Accept & cooperate with hybrid humans, reverse aging, and 300-year lifespans, or go build your villages to die early. 99.9% of us will chose the former.

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This week's guests are Pick It Up! Ska in the 90s film producers Leanor Ortega Till of Five Iron Frenzy, and Jason Zeimet of Unoriginal Vinyl. We dive into the history of ska music, the inspiration for the documentary, as well as some in-depth reflections on Five Iron Frenzy, and their involvement in the Ska scene over the last 25 years. Links & Sponsors:

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Michael Gungor has had a rough past couple of years, which has come with a lot of change, including being given a new name as a spiritual practice of dissolving the ego and stories we have for who we are. He joins to explain some of this to us, which leads to his new book "This: Becoming Free."

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Chris Farley was one of the all-time great comedians and actors. We had the privilege of talking with his brother Tom about his life, career, the impact he had on the world, and implications of the dark side of being the funny guy.

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Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss how some of the moralism and purity problematic religious behaviors and image management, that we’ve seen for years in evangelicalism is now appearing in other subcultures and the mainstream.

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Singer of one of Joey's favorite old school Tooth & Nail bands, Craig's Brother, gets vulnerable about some of the reality behind what was going on during some tumultuous times in their earlier years, and what they're up to now.

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A fan of the sneaker culture, founder of Preachers N Sneakers started noticing rare and expensive shoes on some of the celebrity pastors and worship pastors, made note of it on Instagram, just putting the info out there, and people from all different groups have resonated with it and made it mean whatever they want.

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Aaron Lunsford, from the band As Cities Burn, hangs out at Toby's house, makes some jokes, and Joey asks awkward questions.

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Joey shows up in a big way on the basketball court where he hosts the neighbor kids. Unfortunately, it leads to some marital problems when he elbows a kid in the face.

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Our good friend JT from the band Hawthorne Heights joins to reminisce on our first tour with them as we gear up for an Emery and Hawthorne Heights co-headline run this summer.

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A few weeks ago, Toby and Joey proposed a thought turned real-life experiment of whether it would be beneficial or not for married couples to have sex every day for a week. We actually got quite a few responses from people who tried it out, so invited a couple on to share what they learned!

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New York Times best selling author of "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck", Mark Manson, joins to talk about his new book about hope. Turns out he actually grew up Christian, like a lot of us, and we explore the ideas of faith of certainty, faith of doubt, and what you resist will persist.

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We reflect on the career and life of Rachel Held Evans, and update everyone on what we've been up to over in Emeryland.

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In his new book, Comedy Sex God, Pete Holmes encourages people to unfold the way they're unfolding, and that changing your faith is the best thing you can do. Matt and Toby get the opportunity to confess some pretty hilarious things to him, and talk psychedelics.

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During the hardest year of Craig Gross's life, he and his wife Jeanette found cannabis to not only help them cope, but to find a new way of life and a new way of thinking. Now they're out to break the taboo of cannabis use within the church to give other people the freedom to try something that might actually help them too.

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Here's a sneak peek at a daily dose episode! We get a bit more raw and personal on these episodes. This week, Toby faked Easter and came away feeling convicted of a few things and feeling closer to God, even though he didn't listen to a word the pastor said.

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Ex-pastor of megachurch The Journey in St Louis, Missouri, Darrin Patrick, sits down with Joey at a pastor's conference to discuss his pastoral failures that resulted in his termination. Three years removed, Darrin tells the whole story, including where he's at now.

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Chad Gardner, front man of Kings Kaleidoscope, wanted to send a message with his new album "Zeal" to all the naysayers like us to stop being so negative and bring some joy and faith back to Christianity again.

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Russell Holbrook of Joe Christmas, one of Joey's favorite Tooth & Nail bands of all time, shares his experience with heroin and other addictions. Escapism is so easy through drugs, alcohol, and even social media, that being present is the hardest thing to do. Check out Russell's new book "Heroin is the Answer: A Memoir of What I Can Remember."

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President of Renew the Arts, Justus Stout, sits down with us backstage at the BC Con to catch up on the documentary they're helping to fund us making called What Would Jesus Sell, and talk a bit about the world of nonprofits.

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There's only a few interviews we've done that leave us with a feel of awe and inspiration. This was definitely one of them! We had the privilege of talking to Richard Rohr about his upbringing, what Universalism is all about, and where Evangelicals are getting it wrong.

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Matt's back! We talk about his new baby until that gets out of hand, then move on to discussion of the different mechanisms by which politicians and pastors acquire power.

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Brian McLaren, author of "The Great Spiritual Migration: How the World's Largest Religion is Seeking a Better Way to be Christian," has had a massive impact on Joey's belief updates, so he was very excited to talk to him today and even call him a mentor. Something about Universalism just seems a little too good to be true for Toby to jump on board, so at the end of the episode, he sets it straight again.

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Author of the new Timshel Bible translation and pastor, Bonnie Lewis, was one of our favorite guests at this year's conference, so we wanted to share her interview with Dan Koch with you all. We also have a sex challenge for all you couples out there.

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Funeral director and author, Caleb Wilde, gives his up close and personal account of living surrounded by death and how American's detachment from the reality of death isn't helping anyone.

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Prominent celebrity pastor Clayton Jennings had a meltdown on social media this weekend because of some accusations that have come out against him by JD Hall of Pulpit and Pen. Hall joins to explain where these accusations are coming from, and the history of his relationship with Jennings.

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This episode's about second chances. Sleeping Giant's Tommy Green opens up about his affair as a young adult that left him with unreal guilt, but gives him a unique perspective on issues like Tim Lambesis. He's also passionate about helping women leaving the sex trade, and started a non-profit called Run Against Traffic, and even ran across the entire state of Utah for the cause.

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Aaron Gillespie of Underoath couldn't make the BC Conference, so Matt caught up with him to get a "System Update" on how his faith, mind, and outlook on life has changed and updated over time.

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Candice and Katie from the Free Sex Podcast join for one last hurrah to recap their experience doing the podcast, and what led them to ultimately move on.

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Andy Mineo is not satisfied with the typical Christianity status quo. Luckily for hip-hop fans, he's pushing to break some barriers in that space, and shares the philosophy behind some clever lines on his new album.

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We thought we'd hit you with an extra episode this week! Matt and Toby give you an update on a new business venture, we kick you a club-exclusive episode, and have a clubber on for another interview.

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Matt likes everything Jordan Peterson says; which leads him to the conclusion he needs to stop listening to him. Joey brings a earth-shattering hypothesis that the band Mineral is on par with the restaurant Applebee's.

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Ryan Rado has been a big part of the Christian punk/hardcore scene for the last two decades through managing and getting several Tooth and Nail bands signed. He is also a visual and musical artist himself. Ryan also has Tourette's Syndrome and one of the most fun personalities out there. He came by Toby's house the other day with Aaron Lunsford, and we discussed all this, weed, his new album called "Make It Perfect" and possibly got drunk.

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Dan Koch joins to discuss the subtle difference between having permission, versus not needing permission, to change your mind, and where that permission comes from.

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Over Christmas break, Toby saw something he can't explain. Joey's convinced it was a ghost, but Toby thinks there's a 100% chance it wasn't. We're also stoked to announce that Mae will be headlining this year's BC Con Show, supported by Emery, Aaron Gillespie of Underoath, and Matt MacDonald of The Classic Crime!

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"The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck" has been extremely beneficial to Joey's mental health. We're seeing the pressure to believe something even if you don't actually believe it move its way into mainstream culture's true seekers. Can't we all just stop giving a fuck, and be honest with others and ourselves about what we actually think about ourselves and the world? We're the ones who live in our reality anyway, so might as well enjoy what we've created for ourselves.

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Christians are having a fit after Lauren Daigle went on the Ellen Degeneres show. Matt brings a science segment about a weird asteroid that seems to be outterstellar, and who knows, maybe even a piece of an alien spaceship.

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Kaleb reached out to us wanting to spread the word about what he believes to be a belief in bad theology that lead to his friend being killed while sneaking onto a protected tribal island to do mission work.

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Back from the BC Roadshow, we do a quick tour recap, and Matt explains why he doesn't want his kids going to church anymore.

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How much does the American Christian give to other countries? Before we get to that, Matt explains his copy theory.

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Skillet's John Cooper talks about switching from a "Jesus, Jesus" ministry to a broader style of evangelism, and starting his new band Fight the Fury. Joey found a kindred spirit in John and they broke out in song reminiscing some old school tunes.

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We've all heard churches say you can't get divorced no matter what. Well what about in the case of abuse? Autumn Miles shares her heartbreaking story of domestic abuse, and the church not helping her. Through that, she's made it her mission to help equip both churches and victims with the knowledge and resources needed to actually help.

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It's here! Early Bird tickets are now available for the 2019 BadChristian Conference in Dallas, TX. To celebrate, we're sharing a great talk by Pete Enns from our first conference addressing doubt, belief diversity, and reasons why people change what they believe.

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After being proven wrong about the fate of lottery winners, Matt lays claim to why you shouldn't vote. During taping, Toby can't get over how much Joey's phone keeps going off, but turns out there was good reason for it!

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Is it possible that we are interpreting the plot of our own movie wrong? We often see our modern institution as the underdog fighting against evil, but is it possible that we're really watching a tragedy unfold?

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Matt and Joey recently talked about a book they read called Fantasyland, and we have the pleasure of having the author himself, Kurt Andersen, on to talk more in depth about the ideas in his book and particularly how they relate to the american evangelical church and conspiracy theories.

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Micah Kinard expresses how hard Oh, Sleeper's ambiguous break up was for him, especially singing on stage again with bandmate Shane Blay's new band Wovenwar, which led to their reuniting. Shane and Micah hang on the bus with us to share the story from both of their perspectives for the first time publicly.

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With all the backlash for Emery's new album "Eve" having a naked woman on the cover, we're dedicating an episode to our thought process when we first saw the artwork. Matt gives a bit of history of how his thoughts about women have changed throughout his life.

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Emery's new song "Safe" is so emotional, Matt can't talk about it. Also get a taste of how the BC Club episodes roll with a taste of it here.

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The song "2007 Clarksville High Volleyball State Champs Gay is OK" was written about Toby's realization, after having a conversation with a man in a hospital, that what we believe from the things we've been told in church about homosexuality, might actually be stealing a person's one chance at true love from them.

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Author of "The Color of Compromise," Jemar Tisby, sheds some light on the state of American church's cultural divide among races and how it got that way.

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We often equate pastors and politicians, but this one is hard to overlook. As scandals continue to come out into the open, Bill Hybels was one of the most upsetting to the Christian world. Also listen to the first half hour for an exciting BC announcement!

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Theologian, therapist, and ordained pastor, Mark Karris, explores intercessory prayer, and God’s uncontrolling nature, and other themes found in his new book Divine Echoes: Reconciling Prayer with the Uncontrolling Love of God.

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With a country built by dreamers, fantasy is deeply embedded in the DNA of America. This fantasy mindset has largely increased over time with the rise of individualism, as Kurt Anderson's book "Fantasyland" explains, which got Matt and Joey thinking about how it relates to religion.

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The vapid use of Christianese has turned people off from spiritual words. Jonathan Merritt explains this phenomenon and is working on reimagining sacred words as an active use of language.

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Rapper and Producer Derek Minor breaks down why Trayvon Martin's death had a uniquely profound effect on the black Christian community.

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Science Mike and Matt MacDonald are on the same side; except when they fight on twitter. MacDonald joins Matt and Toby at Joshua Fest and explains why the heck he tweeted what he did.

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Audible communication is about to overtake text-based communication, but that pisses Toby's brother Mike off. On a good note, it could mean a rise in blue-collar intellectuals, and a close of the literacy knowledge gap.

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Does who you're attracted to reveal hidden biases? We break down the nature of attraction and where we get our preferences. You don't know what you like until you give it a try.

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Founder of Every Man Ministries, Kenny Luck had a big part in revolutionizing men's ministry against porn. In hindsight, some say that type of ministry has had a negative effect on women, and even contributed to toxic masculinity. Zao's Scott Mellinger gets grilled by Joey, and we answer some odd questions from the BC Club.

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We (and you) made it to episode #400! We talk about the system one and system two brain theory, and Matt and Joey have a failed conversation about teachers in the education system.

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Bedroom activities are a traditionally taboo thing to talk about, especially in the southern Christian culture, which is why our guest today, sex expert Katy Zvolerin, is here to answer our uncomfortable and awkward questions about sex toys. But first, our college buddy White Carl joins to give us his review of the movie "God's Not Dead."

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If so, what does it contain, how do we know, and where is it? We get deep about dualism in this episode, and discuss whether or not we're the author of our thoughts and desires.

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Tripp Fuller from the Homebrewed Christianity podcast talks about how his family were bad Southern Baptists, how he sees trends changing in the south, and his upcoming movie. Joey loves to teach about good old prayer, and Toby talks with Taylor and David about RYFO. What the heck is RYFO?

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Matt gives a science segment that could save the planet. Climate change and global warming is just one of the human-guilt issues discussed in this episode, and BC Club Manager, Taylor Adkins, joins for an update.

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What's the worst thing you've thought about Benny Hinn? Costi Hinn, Benny's nephew, spills all the uncomfortable details of his time in the ministry. Aaron Diello of Joshua Fest gets grilled by Joey, and of course, The Damn News brings more truth than ever.

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Jesus isn't the only dude in the middle of this couple. Guests Adam and Eve say that marital swinging doesn't break the rules or laws of the Bible. In fact, they say it's good for their marriage and more godly than you'd think. Joey decides to try and counsel Toby's brother Mike, who's a new Christian, and the Damn News is back!

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We heard the horrific news of the singer of a band we've shared a stage with being the leader of an alleged sex cult. This #metoo movement is definitely shining a light on the dark side of entertainment, but we still need to get more clarity with what consent actually is. Also Joey's leading a new segment this week called "Twisted Scripture."

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Matt says marriage expectations are a lie and no marriage has ever exceeded what you were told. Then, actor Ben Davies joins who has acted in many overtly Christian movies. He discusses his balance between the tension of art and moral boundaries within his acting career. We also discuss whether racial discrimination is an issue in Hollywood and why Christian movies don't deliver the same punch as mainstream film. 

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Matt brings a science segment with an explanation of what good reasoning is and why we should reject knowledge from authority. This relates to everything from Joey learning how to use new recording equipment to our understanding of God. Also Toby is annoyed with people thanking God for stopping worse things from happening after something terrible happened, and Joey apparently shat himself during the recording of this episode.

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Authors of "Vodka is Vegan," Phil and Matt Letten drop in to discuss their journey to becoming vegans, their unique approach to veganism, and answer pointed questions about Biblical references to eating meat.

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Right wingers say God doesn't change. But we do. We have more information and ways to learn about God than we ever have. Maybe the Holy Spirit is moving through tech.

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Good friend Propaganda comes on to discuss some of his issues with the recent Owen Benjamin and Andrew Klavan episodes. We're fortunate he was able to come on to fill in the gaps of the black experience Jason found them to be completely unaware of.

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Toby found that there's no hope for humanity if anything happens as simple as the water supply going out. Everyone will resort to pure evil. He does bring back the damn news for this episode with a couple articles about Biblical laws, and smelly prison guards.

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Author, Speaker, Activist, and former Pastor, Brian McLaren talks about the changing theological culture of American Christianity. Religious leaders have less control now that their followers have unlimited access to other thought-leaders online, muddying the waters of religion. This episode covers a lot of deconstructive territory, from traditional dualistic lenses, to what Christians believe about LGBTQ, and trying to convert people from other religions.

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Matt's getting oddly sentimental feelings towards people and experiences that he doesn't know what to do with, but Joey loves it! Also turns out we're still Christians, even though Fundamentalists would call us Satanists.

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Joey's the happiest he can remember being his whole life, and shares some vulnerable moments about his marriage and how bad it really had gotten. We've heard a lot lately about the rising use of adderall, so we thought it'd be interesting to have our guests today on to talk about their all-natural supplement with similar effects to adderall.

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Tim Rymel is an author, educator, and rethinker. He grew up conservative and was even a leader at an ex-gay program, after joining to convert out of his same-sex attraction. Now he's a social justice writer and advocate for giving a voice to the dissonant questions that reside in all of us. Matt recaps his trip to NYC with his daughter and Toby has an update on the new Emery album.

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Today's guest is host of "The Andrew Klavan Show" on The Daily Wire, and author of multiple books turned movies, such as "True Crime" and "Don't Say a Word." Our discussion mostly revolves around topics discussed on his show: political satire, cultural commentary, and mockery of modern absurdities.

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Austen Hartke, author of "Transforming: The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians" joins us to tell his story and humors our ignorant questions. With a Masters of Arts in Old Testament Studies, Austen seeks to understand and share parts of the Bible that relate to gender identity and the lives of transgender individuals. 

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If you haven't heard of Owen Benjamin before, he's the comedian who got permanently suspended from using twitter. We talk with him about jokes, how they work, and why humor is important.

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Joey recently heard some whopper of stories about famous pastors that seem to indicate them as entitled spoiled brats. Toby thinks Joey may be a bit too hard on them and believes it's crazy that we can't just say their names on air. What's a celebrity pastor anyway and are these stories incriminating no matter how you slice them? Oh, yeah, and YouTube takes over Matt's daughter and household.

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Today we're just hanging out with Tim McTague and Aaron Gillespie of Underoath for an hour, talking about backlash they've gotten from their new album, and who among them has lost their faith.

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The status quo is something we all define our lives by. Some seek to find it while others reject it in favor of a different life. Kristie and Matt MacDonald have chosen the latter. From moving their family to another country to touring the US with their three kids, these two have taken an alternative path, and it seems to be working. Check out their summer tour and new EP coming soon! Also, Matt's outraged about recycling.

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Jon Propper might be the best example of a full deconstruction and reconstruction of faith that we've heard from. As a pastor's kid, he grew up and even started preaching himself at 11 years old. He walks us through his journey of converting to Judaism, and then rounding back to Christianity in a bit different form. We also propose that it might be best to legalize prostitution for the sake of regulation.

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Ray Harkins is a good friend of the show, he hosts the 100 Words or Less Podcast, and is the lead singer of the band Taken, who came out of the melodic hardcore scene in the early 2000's. After helping his wife battle cancer, Ray decided to write about something real and vulnerable on Taken's new EP "With Regard To." Also, why are people stoked on Justin Bieber's worship set at a festival, and yet Underoath gets scorned for swearing on an album?

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Matt appeared on a podcast that despite Matt's "enneagram skepticism," pegged his number. Social media has us convinced that we are more liked and cared for than we really are. Lastly, the Damn News is back and the latest mass shooter is apparently a hero to many.

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Joey found some of his old premarital counseling notes. Now his chauvinistic approach to counseling couples only four years ago leaves him embarrassed. Bill Hybels, lead pastor of Willow Creek Church, steps down and it doesn't look good for him. According to Francis Chan, we should probably not talk about it.

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Returning guest, Jamie Wright wrote a memoir on her journey of falling in and out of love with evangelicalism only falling in and out of love with missionary work right afterwards. "The Very Worst Missionary: A Memoir or Whatever" is a very honest look at her personal growth, personal flaws and the role that "church" and faith played throughout her journey.

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Authors Jonathan Bock and Phil Cooke discuss the premise of their new book, "The Way Back: How Christians Blew Our Credibility and How We Get It Back." Just how did the church lose credibility? Toby went to church on Easter and said "shit" when he spilled Jesus' blood and let's make fun of a Men's Conference.

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Why don't we hear stories about Deborah, the only female Judge in the Bible, in Sunday School? Alice Connor is the author of "Fierce: Women of the Bible and Their Stories of Violence, Mercy, Bravery, Wisdom, Sex, and Salvation." She joins us on this episode to discuss some of the biblical women overlooked and misconstrued in modern Christianity.

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Regardless of whether the future is scary or unnerving, do yourself a favor: grit your teeth and go with it. Our bodies are also falling apart, Matt thinks rock music is dead and maybe money can make you happy after all.

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Jen Matthews' family lives and breathes football - including her Super Bowl Champ brother, Clay Matthews, of the Green Bay Packers. Hear what it's like being a woman in this family of football studs and why Jen left a promising NFL broadcasting career to have an integral part in extending the efforts of pray.com, an interactive app that uses technology to unite people in prayer. Lastly, it took Joey years to realize he was inconsiderate in making sport of his wife being sexually violated in her college years.

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Hosts of Depolarize! Podcast, Dan and Ellen, come in studio to hang out and give us an update on this masterpiece of a podcast. Season two brings in new co-host, Ellen Mauro, as they track down and interview Trump supporters and non-supporters from all walks of life, depolarizing the world one person at a time.

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We all know Joey doesn't believe in hell, but with all the death Matt has experienced in the last few years, he has a hard time imagining that there is a heaven or a hell. Also Toby shares a specific encounter he had with God that he cannot ignore.

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Fish oils, exercise, less sugar, SSRIs, and dropping more ingrained religion is given Joey hope in 2018, but even as this new approach seems to be working, there’s still fear that it shouldn’t be this good. Also what do you do when someone asks you to pray for an unspoken? Does it even matter?

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Employee of ours for four years, Reva talks about what it's like to be the only female on the tour bus, and to work with Matt, Toby, and Joey on a daily basis. How much should a group of guys adjust their behavior to accommodate for gender equality in a rough environment like a rock band tour?

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Tommy and his wife's lives were deeply impacted and changed by the great loss of a sweet teenage girl named Anna. Hear how they have decided to use her life and death to bring hope to others. Tommy also chimes in on what Jesus's love should mean in today's polarizing, hate-filled culture that even many Christians have been caught up in. Maybe Jesus was serious about the whole "loving others" thing after all?

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Ever have a crazy (but good) idea and never had the guts to go for it? Jon Foreman of Switchfoot decided to go for his crazy dream of playing 25 shows in 24 hours, all in different locations of San Diego. From a hospital that saved his daughter's life years prior, to his old high school with the marching band, Jon and his friends gave and received the true gift of community, musical expression, adventure, and a deeper sense of what life is all about.

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James DeYoung tells us why Paul Young, author of The Shack, might be leading us all to hell.

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Ellen Mauro is the new co-host of the Depolarize Podcast, which has a new season coming soon. She is an advocate for both women and the unborn. The topic of abortion seems to largely be discussed on a group or national level, but the realities of individuals and their circumstances are always more complex than the big picture and the self righteous on both sides want to acknowledge.     Links & Sponsors: badchristianmedia.com

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Kevin Max showed interest right away in our documentary "What Would Jesus Sell," so we got him on to talk about why that piqued his interest, and how he's seen the Christian music industry change throughout his career. We also reflect on the death of "America's Pastor" Billy Graham.

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Juanita Broaddrick alleges that she was forcibly raped by bill Clinton in 1978. She shares with us the details surround the event itself, and what has happened since.

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Matt goes on a rant about how the work of the future will center around creativity and meaning. As technology and artificial intelligence increase, it will be up to us to invent and define meaningful work. Alternatively, those who aren't able to do so will find their life akin to that of a zoo animal.

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Systems, institutions, and organizations tend to grow and change some along the way, but they rarely reverse course entirely or realize when they have become ineffective or even counterproductive. That's partly because the participants don't like to challenge their own system and outsiders criticism is easily dismissed.

We know people outside our churches have criticism, and we are aware of the tendency inside to continually give the benefit of the doubt. Seems like this is a bad recipe and begs the question, "How would we know if any or all particular church expressions were doing more harm than good tot he overall body?"

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Something they weren't allowed to do at Mars Hill Church (Seattle, WA), Jen Smidt, Melanie Studley, and Candice Clem articulate how they were "indoctrinated" into this church culture that masked sexism with a vision to see men lead at home, church, and in the community. Hear this panel of women at our BC Con describe details that will have your head shaking in disbelief. How was it so easy for these women and their husbands to be deceived into being a part of such an unhealthy culture. Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss the epidemic of deconstructing vocational church employees who are becoming increasingly uncomfortable in their roles, due to their changing beliefs. 

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In order to stop the ugly generational cycle of incarceration, Cyril serves families by trying to help restore relationships between kids and their incarcerated parents. He's making quite an impact and you may need to grab quite a few tissues for this one. Matt, Toby, and Joey reflect on the conference and what it means to BadChristian. Joey and Toby reflect on how their decade old plans of potentially starting a church. Turns out it's a lot different than what they had imagined.

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The BadChristian Conference this past weekend was a great success! We're sharing one of the panels from the weekend with you all called "The Gospel, Victimhood, and the Marginalized" with Jonathan Merritt, Derek Minor, Candice from Free Sex, and her awesome friend Nicole. To preface, TJ from As Cities Burn hopped on to take Joey's spot as a break from the current Emery and ACB tour.

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He may look and sound like a Baptist preacher, but Pastor Queen isn't convinced in Jesus' divinity, doesn't believe Jesus "had to" die in order for man to be saved, thinks there's other ways of finding God (outside of Jesus) and yet is a Baptist minister. We also talk discipleship in the context of this post-modern Christian culture that is rapidly growing. 

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Matt and Toby are having a bad day and due to their "made up professions," don't feel like grownups yet. Joey is reading Rob Bell heresy and in this current time of immense rethinking among Matt, Toby, and Joey, a passage in Bell's newest book sparks a conversation on what the hell we are supposed to be doing with the Bible.

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Jaclyn in zealous to see everyone liberated from sexual limitations; orgies, open marriages, anything goes as long as it includes mutual respect. She's insightful and subversive to America's common approach towards sexual morals. Matt and Jaclyn disagree about the premise of the Aziz Ansari allegations and how they should be treated. Is the tide changing on how we view sex?

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When we started this podcast, we knew we'd get some things right and some things wrong and at some point Fundamental Christians would try to shut us down. Turns out we were right about the fundamentalist part. Now we're out here trying to push against fundamentalism from wherever it comes from.

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On this episode, among many other things, Joey talks about an older man he knows using weed (illegally) to cope with pain instead of his prescribed drugs, and feeling guilty about it. We're having a blast doing this podcast;  it really is a privilege to be able to hang with our friends and process out loud. It's a bonus to know we've helped other people a find like-minded group although on the internet. It's kind of a win-win, so thanks to all you listeners for putting up with our dumb asses.

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William Paul Young had a fundamental, evangelical upbringing that included many false beliefs about God. That led to many questions the church isn’t typically good at entertaining or even allowing, but he couldn’t stop asking. After coming clean about a marital affair to his wife, a new process of learning began in which false notions of God were discarded, and he wrote The Shack to share his new revelation of God with his friends and family. Hear about Young’s love for God as well as his rejection of many doctrines that most evangelical churches would deem essential.

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Dave Chapelle gave us a gift in a couple of holiday specials, we were treated to lots of joyous laughs. Isn't that just outright good? Some people are still upset for him not being politically correct or sensitive enough. We're going to start regulating laughter? We're getting back on track with our diet but that all ends at the BadChristianCon.com. Lastly, Matt has a whopper, something along the lines of kids never having to be thankful for their parents?

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We are constantly changing in our faith, persistently holding on to personal experiences we've had, but many times, we come at potentially scary crossroads of doubt. Joey is scared of religion scarring his kids, and Matt thinks it's crazy when parents marvel at how different their kids' personalities are.

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Actor Stephen Baldwin from the films The Usual Suspects, BioDome, and a new TV show Great American Pilgrimage explains how he became the "Jesus Freak of Hollywood," and tells us why God ordained Trump to be President. 

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Our friend Chad Johnson came on today to talk about his new book One Thousand Risks, and they talk death after his dad passed away this weekend. Before that, Matt gets on a rant about how we're messing up our kids' lives by putting them online: i.e. the bullied kid whose video went viral this past week when his mom posted it to the public.

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Greg Surratt leads one of the largest churches in the world that influences churches worldwide. The question still stands, why does he let Joey do The BadChristian Podcast? We talk about this and bring to the table the many complaints we've articulated on this podcast about pastors, moral failures, and mega-church culture.

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Author of "The Myth of a Christian Nation" and founder of ReKnew.org answers some of Matt and Toby's questions about what Open Theism's believes about God differently from Calvinism and Arminianism. We talk a lot about the omniscience of God and predestination. He also helps explain the problem with the Calvinistic view of Christians as The Elect.

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There was an ugly and embarrassing thread on Twitter this weekend. Many of you observed it, and many participated in it. It was primarily in regards to the inclusion of Preston Sprinkle at BadChristian Con. Some feel that he is a bigot and his views are tantamount to violence and that BC is implicated by giving him the stage.    I (Matt) think it's a tragic look and insight into the negative side of a text-based, hyper-connected platform like twitter.  In order to try to rectify that, we have invited people from both sides of the argument to see if the vitriol is real, or just something that happens when we are behind our keyboards.      The guests today are BC Club members Adrian and Tierney, who were defending BC and also Stacey Midge who was a vocal opponent to BC's platform.  

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Jake Meador, author of the article "Ecclesiology and the Zombie Pastors Problem," joins to discuss issues with pastors like Mark Driscoll (among others) coming back to ministry after being disqualified. Jake points out that the process of reconciliation between pastors and ministry is either to short and easy, or non-existent. We also announce the first BadChristian Conference, with featured guests Pete Enns, Jonathan Merritt, and other speakers, music by Emery, Kings Kaleidoscope, As Cities Burn, and more, and parities, semi-formal winter ball, panels, learning sessions, and lots of fun.

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After months of self-discovery, Lecrae wrote his best and most honest album to date. White Evangelicals couldn't handle it though, and want him to stay in the safe lane they're comfortable with. #lecrae@yourchurch

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We've got a lot to talk about on this one. The bible isn't clearly against multiple sex partners, or at least not clear enough, laments Joey. Matt, Toby, and Joey lose a college friend way too early. Is sexual identity an overblown concept? How does society act as a software that keeps humanity in check?

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Toby's thoughts on psychics and their manipulation tactics ruffles Joey's feathers when he tried to extent the criticism to pastors. Matt makes a case for needing colorful characters in the world through an example of a keyed up hockey coach.

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It seems that these days everyone expects a consensus view from everyone else. That is nonsense. We suggest a nice dose of taking yourself and everyone else less seriously.  Take a deep breath and try to enjoy YOUR life and worry a bit less about other people's lives.

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Today we (Matt, Toby, and Joey) find ourselves in a conversation about the Biblical cannon, and if it is forever closed, and why we think it is or isnt.  If we're honest, it can't be as simple as, "God said it, I believe it, and that settles it."

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Many Atheists, Agnostics, and Christians, despite their stark differences, have the common ingredient of being “Ex-Evangelical.” Within the faith of Christianity, the scales have been tipped (credit the November 2016 Presidential Election) to cause a large sect of Christianity to bow out of evangelicalism. How important is it for this movement to grow? Self-identified nerd and Ph.D. in Russian history (Stanford), Christopher Stroop is an Ex-Evangelical and started the movement #EmptyThePews. He is a compelling voice for evangelicalism to pack its bag and go the hell back to where it came from. Matt’s eccentric personality is reflected in his parenting as he shares a story on his refusal to allow his daughter to comply.

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NewSpring Church, according to Toby's Damn News, has declining attendance and income due to its parting with founding Pastor Perry Noble, who is now getting a divorce. Is Perry a "bad guy?" Is he a victim? Either way, we wish him well, and truly feel bad for what he is going through. Toby can't stop eating Halloween candy, but wonders if Halloween traditions will go away soon.

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Cops escorted Pastor and author Jonathan Martin off the Liberty University campus during a JOHNNYSWIM show while he was hanging with his friends in the greenroom. He was banned for life from Liberty University for planning a prayer meeting and opposing Trump and Jerry Falwell Jr. What’s the condition of the church when opposing points of view aren’t even welcomed?  What role does authoritarianism play in the church?  Before any of this conversation starts, Matt and Toby dissect Joey’s current depressive state.

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Movie director, Spencer T. Folmar, wants to use film to present the hope he’s found in Jesus.  Many Christians aren’t buying his intentions however given the colorful language, including the monstrous “F word,” that’s replete through his films.  We talk “constructive nudity,” “senseless violence,” “The Passion of Christ” and the potential of Christians making REAL movies.

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Author and host of radio show and podcast “Unbelievable?” talks faith, atheism, and how the two groups misunderstand one another.  He’s maintained an open mind to learn, and has had his faith stretched by some of these brilliant atheists, but still maintains his Christian faith. Justin, along with Matt, Toby, and Joey talk significantly about moral relativism. Toby realizes just how much he believes in Jesus; and oil leaks are always bad. . . unless it’s a bible.

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Making what you believe clear is something that you'd think all churches would like, but apparently George Mekhail's "Church Clarity" project has stirred up some unrest among churches since they score a church's transparency on where they stand with LGBTQ issues. Joey claims the hashtag #thatsnotme after coming out as no longer Evangelical.

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Shame, pain, and humiliation shouldn’t be words commonly used by women to describe sexual encounters. Teen girls shouldn’t feel obligated to return the favor by sexually fulfilling boys who take them out on a fun date.  Labiaplasties (surgery of trimming the labia) shouldn’t be on the rise, but even that sex education class in middle school discusses “ejaculation and orgasms” for guys, but “risk and danger” for the ladies.  Young girls are being cultured to forfeit pleasure, freedom, and confidence in the bedroom.  Peggy Orenstein is trying to change these cultural attitudes towards, practices and expectations for women and sex.

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Matt’s logical brain was discombobulated by a synergistic experience he had this weekend at a Kings Kaleidoscope show which made him realize there might be more to this human experience than can be emulated by AI despite having tried VR for the first time just two days prior. Toby takes Matt’s explanation of reality farther than most would, but reveals the inevitable generational gap where “back in the day” will mean when physical vacations and relationships were primary over VR and pod life.

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Despite his conservative upbringing, Brandan Robertson’s first book deal was canceled due to him being vocal about affirming LGBTQ after studying the topic intensively for two years. He eventually came out as bisexual himself, and has become an influential writer for TIME Magazine, Huffington Post, NBC, as well as the author of multiple books on sexuality. Also on this episode, we talk Harvey Weinstein, sexual favors for gain, and Matt’s theory on a future “celebrity death boom.”

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Toxic masculinity, good and healthy masculinity, men and women's ministries; do we pigeonhole folks to a certain brand of masculinity and femininity? Can this be harmful? One thing is for sure, thinking through all of this is much more complex than we give it credit for. Toby ends things with a “things that make me mad list,” including his laments on not being able to let out “sad farts."

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There's no need to go to the Bible for an explanation on fossil records or insight on cancer research. It's equally pointless turning to science for data on how to solve your moral dilemmas. Jim Stump, Senior Editor at Biologos and author of "Science and Christianity: An Introduction to the Issues," invites the church to see the harmony between science and biblical faith as he and his organization present an evolutionary understanding of God’s creation. Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss Cam Newton’s (QB, Carolina Panthers) sexist remarks to a female reporter, and Matt explains his unique theory on the real problem behind mass shootings; and it has nothing to do with guns.

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With the shooting in Las Vegas, it seemed weird to be “business as usual,” advertising products, laughing, cutting jokes, but isn’t laughing good for the soul? We share some jokes in which we’ve taken things too far, talk about Matt Chandler’s decision to only pastor one church with one location, reflect on Trump’s presidency in times like these and brag on (once again) Seacoast Church.

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There’s a lot of movement in Christianity and it's not always movement away from belief in Jesus, but rather the extraneous practices, beliefs and approaches to life that over time have become synonymous with Christianity. Maybe those Christians who stand up and say "Not anymore! We won’t be known for this!" are post-Christians? We also discover the apple not falling far from the tree in the Svendsen household: Joey’s son has a penis marveling moment, and his daughter feels unreal guilt. Plus The Damn News is back with a story about a generous hero of ours and MALE sex robots.

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Chris Date of the Rethinking Hell Podcast is a very conservative Christian who's a masterful debater and theologian making such a convincing case against the traditional view of hell (in which people are eternally and consciously tormented) that even Joey's starting to believe him. As a biblical inerrantist, he claims the bible teaches annihilationism. In other talk, Matt, Toby, and Joey discuss the senselessness of all the NFL kneeling, non-kneeling, stay in the locker room, link arms hoop-lah.

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There’s a bible secreting oil, which you can access for free to receive healing, and Joey was offered some. Do some people have an anointing or are they just good at what they do? On tour last week, Toby, Matt, and the rest of the Emery clan took a stab at stand-up comedy, and Toby objectified women in Buc-ee's on his way to the True Man Experience, where he talks to men about masculinity.

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As Cities Burn and Jonezetta's artist manager Ryan Rado gets real about Tourette's. It may have been awkward for him to uncontrollably shout "God Damn!" to an audience at a Christian music festival; and flipping people off uncontrollably does indeed put some one in a certain box, but Ryan, who still struggles with this disorder, has come out on top. Hear about his relationship with Jesus, his assessment on logic and self-analysis being equally important as compassion and empathy, and his newly found passion for painting.

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God’s omniscience and omnipotence are such common doctrines, we forget there are sincere Christians who don't believe in either. Open theology teaches that true human freewill and God’s foreknowledge of the future is incompatible. Thomas Oord, leading theologian in this doctrine, explains the peace he has knowing that evil exists because God can’t stop it.  We also listen to and dissect Joel Osteen's response to the whole "our doors were closed until you asked us to open them" fiasco.  

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Do Christians have “senseless faith,” holding on to beliefs that are not only insignificant but also illogical?  Churches position themselves not for Christians but only for a certain type of Christian.  This is tragic when true believing skeptics can’t have a community to fellowship with.  Toby brings some sad news on Chuck E. Cheese and Joey admits to paying $600 for a pet cat.

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We talk to Chris Heuertz, best-selling author of "The Sacred Enneagram: Finding Your Unique Path to Spiritual Growth" partially just to find out if this enneagram stuff is legit or not. We discuss whether it was created by humans as a tool for understanding, or is innate to a deeper spiritual truth of how we're created. Matt shares some BC Music news, and Joey witnesses the potential animalistic tendencies of humans when he waited in line for sandbags in preparing for the approaching hurricane. 

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Joel Osteen, wealthy pastor in Houston, drags his feet on serving others, but is there more to the story? Should he be given the benefit of the doubt?  Speaking of pastors and churches, it’s uncanny, the tax benefits received by their likes. Should Pastor Joey feel a bit guilty?  Lastly, Nate Henry and Sherwood are going on tour and Nate finds common ground with Joey’s gravitation towards conspiracies including moon landing, 911, JFK assassination, and Big Foot.

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It's called the Nashville Statement.  It's when church leaders’ desire to make a public stance on human sexuality comes to a head and many pastors sign a statement to make sure every one knows exactly where they stand on others' sexuality.  But many are asking, why the focus on gay people?  Why the need to draw a line?  All this makes us wonder what Jesus would do in today's church culture, and why these folks didn't repent on behalf of the church’s mistreatment of the LGBTQ community.

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Ray Harkins, host of 100 Words or Less podcast, talks about being straightedge with Matt, Toby, and Joey, and its parallel with Christianity having in-group out-group dynamics. What does Toby’s parody worship song teach us about the church and Christianity? Lastly, it’s Matt's 38th birthday and A-I will write pop songs in roughly 14 years.

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Mark Salomon from Stavesacre is someone who has paved the way for bands like Emery, Underoath, and Norma Jean. They have a new album coming out, so he joined us today and we talk about the album and working for NASCAR. A few episodes back, Toby was tasked with writing a hit worship song, and the task is officially completed with today's release of the fully produced single "Forever Rain" that's steadily climbing the charts on iTunes!  

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Fallen pastors seem to want to reclaim the stage as quickly as possible. Could it be that being a Mega Church Pastor is the primary catalyst for pastors’ “moral failures?”  What is it that motivates pastors like Perry Noble to start a new church?  Is it an addiction?  It’s also back to school time so all the Christian kids are back on the mission field to keep classmates out of hell, and lastly, we had a guest whose husband went 7 years without masturbating and some of our listeners were utterly pissed.

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Influential blogger and writer, Jory Micah was fired from her college teaching job for as a result of her controversial feminist views.  She is angered by the church’s discrimination against female leadership and how that prevents many from being who God has made them to be.  She also doesn’t believe in a marital submission that is unique to wives.  Potentially even more interesting is her celebration of gender uniqueness.  Men and women both have strengths and weaknesses that are typically common for their gender.  This feminist may just piss off the feminists.  Matt introduces an invention that could save the lives of many kids,  and Toby brings a news story that supports Matt’s assessment of McDonalds.

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Christians withdrawing from "the world" of media and culture has partly caused a natural bias against Christians from having a lack of influence there. Billy Hallowell helps us untangle this, being culture-focused writer. They also discuss responses to the recent Charlottesville protests by white nationalists.

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Ex-porn star, Brittni De La Mora, speaks about women's responsibility through modesty to help men not stumble, and Candice from the Free Sex expresses how evangelical culture made her ashamed of her body.

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After the untimely death and suicide of Chester Bennington, people’s hearts were grieved, but added to their sadness, came anger and accusations of cowardice.  Matt MacDonald (The Classic Crime, Vocal Few) was in this camp, and took heat for some cold comments made on social media.  Him and Levi the Poet, who lost his dad to suicide, talk all this through as we delve into the devastating act of suicide. Before that, Matt shares the benefits of what could be called “butt-dial therapy,” and Toby is taking his True Man Experience to Texas!

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