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The idea to create this podcast came to us during the quarantine of summer 2020 whenever the world seemed to be on pause. As three young music professionals at the very beginning of our career, we found ourselves continuously discussing various music topics as it related to the world around us. Topics ranging from orchestral repertoire, conducting, music education, etc. would come up in hour long Facetime calls. One day, we decided to share our discussions with the world, and Relative Pitch was born. We feel that the purpose of our podcast is to showcase the talent, leadership, and passion that we see within our field of music, and to help pave the way for much needed change in our community that will make it a more diverse, enriching, and equitable atmosphere for anyone who wants to be a part of it.

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In this week's episode, we talk about the need to be well-rounded, how to survive "Band-tober", and the yearn for community.


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In this week's episode we emphasize the importance of telling people how you feel about them before it's too late, the impact of choices, and what what the younger generations need.

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In this week's episode, we chat about what's wrong with the education system, God complex in school settings, and when to speak up.

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In this first episode of season 5, your favorite hosts are back chatting about the state of the music world, the mass teacher exit occurring, and the feeling of regression.

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In our last episode of Season 4, we take a look back through the show, discuss how important taking a break is, and share recent life updates.

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In this week's episode, we chat about surviving the end of the school year, Beyoncé as a human and icon, and how one major event can be a catalyst for change.

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In this week's episode, we talk about the horrific scandal at the New York Philharmonic being resurfaced after 14 years and the response or rather lack of from certain institutions, and how this pattern has been present within our field and others for far too long.

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In this week's episode, we talk about Beyoncé's newest project, the idea of genre, and the criticism of innovators and change makers in our field.


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In this week's episode, we discuss the commonalities of Gospel and Trap music, Blacksound as a language and practice of liberation, storytelling in trap music, and how conservatism plays a part within the conversation of rap.

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In this week's episode, we discuss organizations' and institutions' methods of celebrating heritage months, their social media presence, and how they fall short with connecting with and engaging new audiences.

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In this week's episode, we talk about how important the people in your life are to your journey, how to find balance in your relationships, and needing to be self aware to be open to finding the right people for you.

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In this week's episode, we talk about the critique of the new generations, burnout season, and how unprofessional social media can be.


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In week's episode, we chat about perspective as an iceberg, music education systems, and the idea of "good" music.

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In week's episode, we chat about the importance of protecting your peace, how sometimes a 'no' is a blessing, and the fact that we only have control over ourselves.

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In week's episode, we give our perspectives and experiences with attending conferences, participating in fellowship programs, and effective mentorships and what to look out for.

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In this week's episode we talk the dangers and misconceptions of respectability politics, utilizing your energy efficiently, and ageism.

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In our first episode of 2024, Dr. Stephen C. Price, inaugural, Paul B. Fritts Faculty Fellow and Artist-in-Residence in organ performance at the University of Washington, joins us for an exhilarating and eye-opening conversation on the world of organ performance, his time as a Fulbright fellow, and the specific challenges that the pandemic had on organists around the world.

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In this week's episode, University of Texax-Austin Doctorate of Musical Arts, Wind Performance candidate Mike Lebrias also known as @broitsmiike join us for a conversation on balance as a grad student, knowing who you are outside of music, and finding cultural identity.

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In this week's episode, Acting Principal Flute with the Memphis Symphony Orchestra Shantanique Moore reflects on her journey as an orchestral flutist, her work and experience with SPHINX and how that has helped her career, and the truth behind diversity fellowships

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In this week's episode, Dr. Luke Spence, Visiting Professor of Trumpet at the SUNY Potsdam School of Music Crane School of Music and founding Board member of the International Pride Orchestra joins us for a conversation on Trumpet culture, gender roles in music, and vulnerability and comfort within music making.

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In this week's episode, Kedrick Armstrong joins us for a conversation on how performance anxiety put him on the podium, his start in the church, and how he programs authentic and diverse programs.

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In this week's episode, Dr. Chloe Swindler joins us for a conversation on her educational journey, research endeavors, and how her identity has affected her as an artist.

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In this week's episode, Dr. Janet Song Kim joins us for a conversation on being grateful for the presence of your students, how quality is brought up in conversations surrounding diversity, and when being stubborn is a good thing. More on Dr. Kim at https://music.uconn.edu/person/janet-kim/ Midwest: https://www.midwestclinic.org/2023_clinician_Janet_Kim

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in this week's episode, we chat with THEE Monica Ellis, Bassoonist and Executive Director of THEE Grammy Nominated Imani Winds. We talk trust, the importance of location, and how Imani Winds has become the iconic ensemble that it is now.More on Imani Winds and Monica at imaniwinds.com

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In this week's episode, we chat about how much students are facing these days, and how important it is to remember that they are doing their best despite all the situations occurring around them and even in their homes. -- SOCIALS: Facebook: www.facebook.com/relativepitchpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/relativepitchpodcast Twitter: www.twitter.com/relativepitch_ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7sIViEI... Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website: relativepitchpodcast.com

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In this week's episode, Dr. Tina Holmes-Davis associate professor of music, specializing in music education at Georgia College and State University joins us for a conversation on accessibility within music education and her experience learning to play a one-handed clarinet. More on Dr. Holmes-Davis athttps://www.gcsu.edu/artsandsciences/music/faculty-staff-department-of-musicOther links: https://kb.gcsu.edu/cme_profdev/, https://www.ohmi.org.uk and https://www.unitedsound.org

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In this week's episode, Stanford Thompson, Founder of Play on Philly and Executive Director of Equity Arc, joins us for a conversation on his upbringing in Georgia with a musical family, his extensive work within his communities, and how to be fulfilled and remain genuine to yourself within your career.

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In this episode, we talk about learning how to believe in what you want despite what others want from you as well as forming genuine connections. -- SOCIALS: Facebook: www.facebook.com/relativepitchpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/relativepitchpodcast Twitter: www.twitter.com/relativepitch_ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7sIViEI... Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website: relativepitchpodcast.com

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This week, flutist and educator Adam Sadberry joins us for a conversation on putting Humanity over the music, the pipeline issue within the Orchestral field, and knowing when to leave. Learn more about Adam at https://www.adamsadberry.com/-- SOCIALS: Facebook: www.facebook.com/relativepitchpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/relativepitchpodcast Twitter: www.twitter.com/relativepitch_ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7sIViEI... Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website: relativepitchpodcast.com

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In this episode, we chat about buzz words flooding public education, competition in music, and valuing process over reward. -- SOCIALS: Facebook: www.facebook.com/relativepitchpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/relativepitchpodcast Twitter: www.twitter.com/relativepitch_ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7sIViEI... Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website: relativepitchpodcast.com

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In the first episode of season 4, we catch up on what we've been up to during the summer and speak on the double edged sword of the tenure process.

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In our last episode of the season, we look back on our journey to where we are now, chat about the power of social media, and talk about pushing back to continue forward. -- SOCIALS: Facebook: www.facebook.com/relativepitchpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/relativepitchpodcast Twitter: www.twitter.com/relativepitch_ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7sIViEI... Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website: relativepitchpodcast.com

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In this weeks episode, trumpeter, educator, and entrepreneur Ashley Killam joins us for a conversation on her non-profit Diversify the Stand, accessibility, and her multifaceted career. Read more about Ashley at https://www.ashleykillam.com/

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In this weeks episode, Dr. Dunwoody Mirvil Director of Trombone at Florida Memorial University and newly appointed Assistant Professor of Trombone at Stetson University joins us for a conversation of how marching band gave him opportunities to travel nationally and internationally, performing with Prince, teaching his students life skills, and how important intention is for him.

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In this episode, the three of us have a chat about what spring cleaning means for each of us, how to unplug, and how to learn to let things go.

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In this week's episode, Professor of Music and Director of Bands at UCLA Dr. Travis Cross joins us for a conversation on protecting your soul, sabbaticals, the dichotomy of the music field. Read more about Dr. Cross at schoolofmusic.ucla.edu/people/travis-j-cross/-- SOCIALS: Facebook: www.facebook.com/relativepitchpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/relativepitchpodcast Twitter: www.twitter.com/relativepitch_ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7sIViEI... Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website: relativepitchpodcast.com

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In this episode, Assistant Director of Athletic Bands and Assistant Professor of Music Education at Florida State University Dr. Chandler L. Wilson joins us for a conversation on his extensive collegiate journey, his multi-faceted career, and his philosophy on balancing life as a musician. #keepitrelative-- SOCIALS: Facebook: www.facebook.com/relativepitchpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/relativepitchpodcast Twitter: www.twitter.com/relativepitch_ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7sIViEI... Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Website: relativepitchpodcast.com

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In this episode, Associate Director of the Jacksonville Symphony, Kevin Fitzgerald joins us for a conversation on his life as a conductor, work-life balance, and the future state of music. #keepitrelative For more info on Kevin: https://www.kevinfitzgeraldconductor.com/

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In this episode, Director of Undergraduate Career Education at the University of Texas-Austin Nathan Langfitt, LPC joins us for a conversation on mental health for musicians and careers within music. #keepitrelative

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In this episode, the Band Room Podcast cohosts Dylan Rook Maddix and Cait Nishimura join us for a conversation on how they met, the formation of the podcast, age, and more! Read about The Band Room Podcast at https://www.bandroompod.com/. #keepitrelative

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In this week's episode, we discuss the Grammy's, the nuances of Black History Month, and how artists identify themselves for profit.

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In this weeks episode we chat with St. Cloud State University Wind Ensemble Conductor and Associate Professor of Music Education Dr. Catharine Bushman about community building and non-traditional ways of measuring success. #keepitrelative

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In this week's episode, we talk about the danger of acting impulsively and making big changes and what this means within the music field and specifically music education.

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In this episode, Detroit Symphony Orchestra Assistant Conductor and Phillip and Lauren Fisher Community Ambassador and Music Director of the Detroit Symphony Youth Orchestra Na'Zir McFadden joins us to chat about his historical appointment and the changes he's making within his community.

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In this episode, we have a conversation with Florida Atlantic University Assistant Professor of Trumpet & Artistic Director of Jazz and Chamber Ensembles Dr. Courtney Jones on gratefulness, mindset, and what it means to “stay in it.” Read more about Dr. Jones at https://cjonestrumpet.com/ #keepitrelative

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In this episode, Assistant Professor of Practice in Flute at University of the Pacific’s Conservatory of Music Dr. Brittany Trotter joins us for the first episode of the new year as we discuss ways she is being intentional as an educator and performer as well as how her upbringing has shaped her career. #keepitrelative

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In our last episode of 2022, we sit down with DMA Wind Conducting student at the University of South Carolina Lia Snead to have a conversation on confidence, being intentional with programming, and connecting with students from different communities.

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In this episode, we discuss the side effects we often see accompany rising fame and popularity within the classical music field and within popular culture. We also discuss the importance of the company you keep around you. #keepitrelative

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In this episode, we sit down with flutist, social media influencer, and Professor of Flute and Woodwind Area Leader at Tennessee State University Ashley Crawford to discuss her latest successes, including the expansion of the Nashville African American Wind Symphony and presenting at the National Flute Association Convention. Read about Ashley at https://www.ashleytheflutist.com. #flutebae #keepitrelative

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In this episode we chat with UT Austin Wind Conducting DMA candidate Weston Lewis and LSU Music Education PhD candidate Christopher Song about their presentation "Mythbusters" and how they are deconstructing the myths surrounding diversity in the classical music field. Read about Weston and Chris below. And, as always, #KeepItRelative.

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In this episode, we discuss an array of topics that are sore spots for us for different reasons. These topics include education, DEI Initiatives, and how to deal with colleagues. #keepitrelative

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In this episode, we have a conversation with Liz Love, Director of Bands at Leander Middle School, and Robert Selaiden, composer, arranger and Former Director of Bands at Leander High School, about what it means to be genuine and balanced on and off the podium. #keepitrelative

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In this week's episode, Director of Athletic Bands at Western Carolina University Dr. Jack Eaddy joins us for a conversation surrounding the need for community and connection within music education. #keepitrelative

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In this episode, we discuss the the side effects we see arising as equity efforts are pushed within the music community.

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In this week's episode, we sit down to have a conversation with Dr. Devan L. Moore, Assistant Director of Bands and Assistant Director of the Cowboy Marching Band at Oklahoma State University. We chat about her dissertation, #thechocolatemeastra, the struggles and nuances of navigating the music education field as a black woman, and what representation actually means. #keepitrelative

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In this week's episode, we discuss the current state of education and speak on what it means to have passion.

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In the first episode of the third season, we give an update on where we all are now and have an in-depth discussion on where the classical music field is and where it should be heading.

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In this episode, we wrap up our second season and chat about the state of education and our hopes for the future.

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In this week's episode, we sit down with Associate Professor of Tuba and Euphonium at East Tennessee State University and chat about queer representation in the music field, pioneers of queer music, and their background in biology.

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In this episode, Louisiana State University Tiger Marching Band Director Dr. Kelvin Jones joins us in a conversation on his roots, HBCUs, and his work at LSU.

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In this episode, we welcome Atlanta native and composer Marie Antoinette Douglas to the show to discuss her background, musical inspirations, and how she found her compositional voice.

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In this week’s episode, we break down our thoughts on this year’s Grammy Awards in addition to other topics swirling around the music field.

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In this episode we discuss the pros and cons of competitions and comparison within education and careers.

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In this episode, we discuss the importance of community and what community means to us as individuals and as a whole.

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In this episode, Director of Contemporary Commercial Music at the University of South Florida Kenrick Wagner joins us for a conversation on implementing popular music into music education, his organization Project Gametime, and more!

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In this week's episode, we discuss the importance and the dangers of perspectives within educational and career decisions, the new Emmitt Till Opera, and LGBTQ+ awareness.

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TRIGGER WARNING: This week on Relative Pitch, we get real. In Season 2 Episode 20, we discuss the double edged sword of commissions, discomfort in musical spaces, and composer Julius Eastman and his most controversial works. There are some explicit/derogatory words used within our discussions but more importantly are the depth of conversations we have. Make sure to tune in.

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In this episode, we answer your questions from our 2022 GMEA session "Pushing For Change From the Inside: Bringing Equity to Middle and High School Bands" featuring Dr. Cynthia Johnston Turner, Wolson Gustama, Cecilia Clark, and Sheldon Frazier.

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In this week's episode, we discuss the Superbowl halftime show, Pulitzer Prize winner Kendrick Lamar, and chat with Associate Professor of Musicology and Ethnomusicology at the University of New Mexico Dr. Ana Alonso- Minutti on topics including her roots and work within Latina/Chicana studies, decolonialism, queer studies, and more. Read about Dr. Minutti at www.anaminutti.com

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In this episode, we discuss mental health in music and shed the spotlight on Jazz artist Kamasi Washington.

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In this episode, we recap our GMEA Experience and we discuss composer Thomas Greene Bethune.

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Take a listen to our 2022 GMEA session "Pushing For Change From the Inside: Bringing Equity to Middle and High School Bands." We hosted a live panel that featured Dr. Cynthia Johnston Turner, Wolson Gustama, Cecilia Clark, and Sheldon Frazier.

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In this episode, we discuss the current crisis the education system is witnessing as COVID continues to rise and we speak on issues regarding DCI (Drum Corp International)

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On this week's episode, we sound off on music education conferences.

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In this week's episode, Dr. Stephen Plate, Chair; Professor of Music at the University of Central Arkansas, joins us for a conversation on his musical upbringing, administration, and student engagement.


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In this week's episode, Assistant Professor of Trumpet at the University of Wisconsin-Madison Jean Laurenz joins us for a conversation on her journey as a musician and educator, Seraph Brass, and her interdisciplinary work.

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In this episode, we have a conversation with the Director of Wind Band Studies at Penn State Dr. Tonya Mitchell-Spradlin on her diverse educational background, career, and her pedagogical ideals.


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In this week's episode, we listen to and discuss Terence Blanchard's Fire Shut Up in My Bones and Kris Bowers's scoring for the Netflix shows Bridgerton and Dear White People.


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In this episode, we interview composer Katahj Copley and discuss his journey within education and composition.


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In this week's episode, flutist Ashley Michelle Crawford AKA #FluteBae joins us for a conversation about her work as an educator, her social media presence, the Nashville African American Wind Symphony, and her activism.

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In this episode, we sit down and talk with the Assistant Professors of Musicology at Western Michigan University, Lauron Kehrer.

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In this episode, we sit down and talk with the Associate Director of Bands of University of Texas-Austin, Dr. Ryan Kelly.

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In this weeks episode, pianist Julie Coucheron joins us for a conversation about her education, performance career, and teaching philosophies.

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In this episode, we sit down and talk with the Director of Bands of Western Michigan University, Dr. Scott Boerma.

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In this week’s episode, we discuss the different areas of elitism in music and the idea of personal accountability.

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In this episode, we discuss different ways in which we can engage the community with different forms of art.


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We are so excited to be back and share all of the amazing news with you all!

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In this week's Summer Spotlight Series episode, Kevin Day joins us again for a solo interview discussing his newest compositions, next steps within his education, and a few of his many future endeavors.

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In this week's episode, Emily Eng joins us for a conversation on her educational journey as a conductor and her career.


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In this week's episode, Rebekah Daniel joins us for a conversation on her educational journey as a conductor and her career.


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In this week's episode, conductor Shiree Williams joins us for a conversation on his conducting journey and how he is impacting the music field.

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Summer Spotlight Series Episode 3 is now live! In this week's episode, Hannah Rudy joins us for a conversation on her educational journey as a conductor and her career. Learn more about Hannah at https://www.hannahlrudy.com/

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In our Summer Spotlight Series Episode 2, Jasmine Hambersham joins us for a conversation on her journey as a soprano and how her education has affected her professional career.

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In our Summer Spotlight Series Episode 1, Viet Cuong joins us for a conversation about his musical and compositional journey and how he has made a place for himself and his music within our field.

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In our Season Finale of Season 1, we look back on past episodes and discuss our Summer Spotlight Series and Season 2.

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In this weeks episode, Dr. Cory Meals joins us for a conversation on education, marching band, and his research.

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In this week's episode, Billy Hunter joins us for a discussion on his journey within the classical music field and mediation.

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In this week's episode, Garrett McQueen joins us for discussions about his podcast TRILLOQUY, DMX, and what it means to be Black-Centered.

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In this week's episode, we conclude our mini bookclub series on Alex Ross' Wagnerism with Chapters 14, 15, and the Postlude.


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In this episode, we have a conversation with Todd Wedge about his journey in music, the Grammys, the Metropolitan Opera and reactions to the death of James Levine.

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This week's episode focuses on Chapters 11-13 of Alex Ross' Wagnerism.


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In this week’s episode, Dr. Cynthia Johnston Turner joins us for a real talk about higher education, her journey as a conductor, and changes that need to be made in the music field.

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This week's episode focuses on Chapters 8-10 of Alex Ross' Wagnerism.


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In this week's episode, we are joined by trombonist Robyn Smith and flutist Brandon Patrick George for a two-part discussion of their journeys throughout their performance careers.

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In this week's episode, composers Kevin Day and Ben Horne join us for a discussion on their journeys within composition and how they are using their compositions to tell their stories and push music forward.


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In this week's episode, Dr. Arris Golden and Dr. William Lake Jr. join us for a discussion on the state of the music education system and their ways of creating lasting changes within their field.

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In this week's episode, Professor Tyrone Jackson and Dr. Oral Moses join us for a discussion on Jazz and Gospel Music's role throughout black history and the music field.

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In this episode, we discussed our process for selecting Music as a major and the expectations of a music major.

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This week's episode focuses on Chapters 5-7 of Alex Ross' Wagnerism.

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In this episode, we reflect on the state of the country and current events of the first full week of 2021 and discuss what the music community's role is in politics.


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In this episode we take a look back on the year of 2020 and discuss our hopes and expectations for 2021.

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In this episode, Christina Smith of the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra joins us for a discussion on pedagogy, auditions, and the orchestra.

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In this episode, we continue our Mini-Bookclub Series on Alex Ross‘s Wagnerism with Chapter 4: Grail Temple.

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In this week's episode, Dr. Douglas Lindsey joins us in a discussion on the journey to and through collegiate teaching and how one can make themselves indispensable.

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In this episode, we discuss ways to identify and avoid burnout and also discuss our own personal experiences with burnout.

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In this episode, we continue our mini-bookclub series on Alex Ross’ Wagnerism with Chapter 3: Swan Knight where we discuss Lohengrin, Wagner’s Influence on the British Monarchy, and Star Spangled Wagner.

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In this episode, we have a discussion with Dr. David Kehler on music, life, and teaching within and outside of COVID-19. Remember to subscribe to us on our listening platforms!

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In this episode, we continue our mini-book club series on Alex Ross' Book Wagnerism: Art and Politics In The Shadow of Music with Chapter 2: Tristan Chord.

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In this week's episode, we give our thoughts and opinions on how a musician should balance their life and share how we each balance our individual lives.

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In this episode, we dive into Chapter 1 of Alex Ross’ book Wagnerism. The chapter is titled Rheingold and discussion topics include Wagner’s concert innovations, leitmotifs, Wagner Coachella(?) and more! Remember to subscribe, like, and leave us a comment

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In this episode, we talk about our difficulties as young musicians in a transitional period during the pandemic. We discuss the good and the bad of navigating life during COVID and also what our thoughts are on how life, especially as a musician, will be after the pandemic.

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In our first episode of season 1, we introduce ourselves and talk about the road to creating Relative Pitch. We also begin our Mini Bookclub Series on Alex Ross‘ new book Wagnerism.