If the Walls Could Talk: Recent Episodes
Todd Ganz and Stephani Young
How did a group of bad apples turn a premiere Chicago hospital into a "butcher shop"? If the walls of Edgewater Hospital could talk, they would proudly share the years of good medicine before breaking down into tears recounting the horrible crimes done within those walls. Hear former employees, patients, FBI agents, lawyers, and urban explorers share what happened in this history / true crime podcast series.
It's not a coincidence that many celebrities who performed at Edgewater Beach Hotel wound up in the "private suites" at Edgewater Hospital. Todd recently joined Tommy Henry on the Chicago History Podcast to explain why and shared a few other similarities between the two buildings.
Hear the full episode about Chicago's famed Edgewater Beach Hotel in Episode 503
Episode 306 of the Chicago History Podcast features Todd Ganz and Stephani Young talking about the making of If the Walls Could Talk.
Episode 302 of the Chicago History Podcast explores the movie "Backdraft" -- a handful of scenes were filmed at Edgewater Hospital.
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There were other suspects in the mysterious murder investigation of Edgewater Hospital's Teresita Basa. In this special Q&A, learn about them and whether Reme Chua was considered a person of interest. Hear why one of Allan Showery's lawyers was later disbarred and find out about the odd connection to Edgewater Hospital's Peter Rogan and Roger Ehmen.
If the Walls Could Talk Podcast shares the true crimes that destroyed Chicago's Edgewater Hospital. The complete series is now available.
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Accused of murdering Teresita Basa, Allan Showery's trial began in 1979. Given that the unusual circumstances of the case -- that police were tipped off by a ghost -- lawyers on both sides were challenged to convince 12 indecisive jurors. But it's what happened after the trial that still remains a mystery.
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Hear the complete true crime series about Chicago's Edgewater Hospital beginning with Episode 1 of If the Walls Could Talk Podcast.
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Police found the badly burned body of Teresita Basa in her apartment in 1977. The beloved Edgewater Hospital employee had been stabbed to death and set on fire. With few leads, the case went cold. Teresita's ghost later returned from the grave to identify her killer: another Edgewater Hospital employee named Allan Showery. Hear the shocking true story of one the most unusual murder investigations in Part 1 of this Bonus Episode.
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Is one of Edgewater Hospital's doctors sitting on death row? Why did Peter Rogan get such a light prison sentence? What happened to the hyperbaric chamber? We'll answer those questions and a dozen others. A panel of experts also discuss whether there could be another Edgewater Hospital.
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Dr. Maurice Mazel was Edgewater Hospital's temperamental leader who treated Hollywood's elite and turned his tiny neighborhood hospital into Chicago's premiere medical facility. For 51 years, he ran the hospital at 5700 N. Ashland Avenue like a hotel -- complete with bellhops, private suites and celebrity sightings. Learn why he collected urine from employees and whether the Chicago Paranormal Investigators found any ghosts in this special bonus episode about the hospital's better days.
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Roger Ehmen served 6 years in prison for his role in Edgewater Hospital's fraud scheme. He shares how he managed to turn that darkness into an opportunity and, in the process, found his calling. Hear the shocking updates about Peter Rogan, Dr. Cubria and other players in the scheme in this tell-all "where are they now" episode.
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Peter Rogan surprised authorities when he ended his extradition fight and returned to the United States in 2015. He faced up to 50 years in prison and a $1 million fine on obstruction and perjury charges. Meanwhile the long-awaited redevelopment of Edgewater Hospital finally commenced and unearthed plenty of surprises.
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Edgewater Hospital closed in 2001, but the hospital still saw dozens of people come and go. Some of the many visitors were Urban Explorers who photographed the abandoned hospital over the 15 years it sat idle.
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Ken Fager on American Urbex on Flickr Instagram: @kenfager
Nitram242 on Flickr Instagram: @nitram242
Jordan Nicolette on Flickr Instagram: @jordan-nicolette
Kyle Telechan on Flickr Instagram: @cityeyes
Eric Holubow on Flickr Instagram: @eholubow - Book: Abandoned: America’s Vanishing Landscape
Bradley French on YouTube Instagram: @bradley_frenchy
Mike Kinsch Instagram: @mikeman902
Josh Tinoco Instagram: @joshuatinoco
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This episode is sponsored by: For Papa's Sake Home Health Care
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Following a $64 million civil judgment levied against him, Peter Rogan fled to Canada and moved into a swanky Vancouver penthouse. Even after the feds filed criminal charges, they struggled to bring him back back to Chicago. Meanwhile, the Edgewater Hospital campus rotted away and became a magnet for crime. The neighborhood demanded it be torn down.
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As a handful of Edgewater Hospital doctors and Roger Ehmen headed to prison, Peter Rogan walked away a free man. While not charged criminally, Peter was sued in civil court. The United States vs Peter Rogan went to trial in 2006 and featured plenty of explosive testimony. At stake were tens of millions of Peter's dollars.
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Fear spread through Edgewater Hospital that someone might be cooperating with the FBI and secretly recording conversations. Meanwhile some unexpected findings caused the investigation to come to a screeching halt. That left everyone asking: "Now what?".
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An alarming number of patients ended up in the hands of Cardiologist Andrew Cubria. Dr. Cubria then performed unnecessary and complex invasive procedures on these patients. The FBI went undercover and learned that two people died as a result. Complicating matters: Dr. Cubria destroyed the evidence.
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As the FBI uncovered the illegal ways Edgewater Hospital was filling up their hospital beds, they enlisted multiple doctors to secretly record conversations to learn who was responsible for the scheme. Their investigation took another sharp turn when an audit revealed a Cardiologist doing an unusual amount of invasive heart procedures.
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Rumors spread that patients who weren't sick were being brought to Edgewater Hospital and treated on a mysterious "secret floor". The once proud community hospital suddenly took on a new identity. Before long, the FBI would start investigating.
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Edgewater Hospital is the birthplace of John Wayne Gacy, Hillary Clinton. The once-prominent hospital once treated Chicagoans and Hollywood's elite before abruptly closing in 2001. The feds exposed a massive fraud scheme where management and doctors resorted to illegal and immoral methods to fill up the beds. Multiple patients died in the scheme. By the time it closed in 2001, most employees were in shock while others said they knew some doctors and management were dirty.
For nearly 50 years, Edgewater Hospital was considered Chicago's finest. That all changed in 1989 when a consultant named Peter Rogan purchased it. What happened in Edgewater's final decade now overshadows its once-sterling reputation. Former Edgewater Hospital staff, patients, lawyers, and investigators recount what happened.
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When a leading Chicago hospital changed owners, new management did just about anything to fill up the beds. A decade of fraud, corruption and greed led to hundreds of unnecessary surgeries, procedures and, ultimately, deaths.
When the former owner fled the country, city officials were left to deal with this giant abandoned hospital campus filled with medical records, supplies and equipment. If the Walls Could Talk recounts the true crimes and tangled history of Chicago's Edgewater Hospital told by former staff, patients, lawyers, and investigators.
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