Out Of The Cold: Recent Episodes

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Out Of The Cold is an investigative podcast series presented by James Patrick, Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) .

Out Of The Cold isn’t just another True Crime podcast. It was created to support the work of and spread the word about the Foundation, a charitable organisation which actively participates in cold case investigations – assisting law enforcement agencies in bringing offenders to justice and providing crucial support to the loved ones of victims.

The Cold Case Foundation specialises in unsolved homicides, missing persons, unidentified bodies, and sexual assault with serial characteristics. Led by former FBI profiler Greg Cooper and deputy executive director Dean Jackson, the foundation has built a team of specialists and investigators from across the world, dedicated to ending the compounding effect of accumulated cold cases and providing hope and resources to families affected by violent crime.

The Cold Case Foundation is devoted to raising public awareness and creating partnerships to assist and provide law enforcement whatever resources are needed to bring about closure. 

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In this Out Of The Cold Extra episode James shares one of his formative stories to give you some insight into what it’s like to be at the scene when the worst has happened. The focus this time is hoarding and the episode sets out the gap in how a mental health crisis is identified and the sad consequences.

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Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

With Special Thanks:

To the Cold Case Foundation.

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Reference Material for this episode:

N/A.

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by SOCINT in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Music is sourced through Story Blocks and the featured tracks are Slide The Guitar by Neil Cross and Deep In The Bayou by Patrick Smith.

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In this Out Of The Cold Extra episode James shares one of his formative stories to give you some insight into what it’s like to be at the scene when the worst has happened. The focus this time is fatal fires and sets out how an investigation might have a result which saves future lives without convictions.

You can join Cold Case Live for $3.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

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Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

With Special Thanks:

To the Cold Case Foundation.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this episode:

N/A.

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by SOCINT in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Music is sourced through Story Blocks and the featured tracks are Slide The Guitar by Neil Cross and Deep In The Bayou by Patrick Smith.

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In this Out Of The Cold Extra episode James shares one of his formative stories to give you some insight into what it’s like to be at the scene when the worst has happened. The focus this time is auto-erotic asphyxiation and sets out the key question we always need to ask ourselves when reading or listening to true crime stories.

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Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

With Special Thanks:

To the Cold Case Foundation.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this episode:

N/A.

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by SOCINT in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Music is sourced through Story Blocks and the featured tracks are Slide The Guitar by Neil Cross and Deep In The Bayou by Patrick Smith.

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In the finale of Season 1, James focuses on the solutions which come from the in-depth review of the case of serial killer Robert Ben Rhoades. Stopping it from happening again has always been the most important aspect for us.

This episode includes discussions of crimes and linked topics which some people may find disturbing and upsetting and we especially advise parental caution with any children who may hear this episode.

You can join Cold Case Live from just $2.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

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Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

With Special Thanks:

Greg Cooper, Dean Jackson, and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing unique insight and background materials not available elsewhere.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this episode:

  1. https://database.projectcoldcase.org/

  2. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/plea_bargain, Plea Bargain, Cornell Law School, Accessed 6th November 2021

  3. https://coldcase.live/rhoades-case-referral/

  4. https://coldcase.live/nccd

  5. https://coldcase.live/drivet

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Note:

We experienced a minor sound quality issue with this episode, affecting the quality of James' voice due to illness. We apologise if this caused an adverse listening experience.

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

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James looks at the case of Marsha Wilson, referred for review by a retired detective checking if it could have been a Rhoades case, and discusses other murderous truck drivers - examining how, by understanding their offending and moving away from victim bias, we may be able to save more lives in future.

This episode includes discussions of crimes and linked topics which some people may find disturbing and upsetting and we especially advise parental caution with any children who may hear this episode.

You can join Cold Case Live from just $2.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

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Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

With Special Thanks:

Greg Cooper, Dean Jackson, and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing unique insight and background materials not available elsewhere.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this episode:

  1. https://apnews.com/article/dc0353b0dc1562d71daa1d28ca9afd34, Trucker Confesses to Murder, Associated Press, November 6th 1998, Jeff Barnard.

  2. https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Wayne_Adam_Ford, Wayne Adam Ford, Criminal Minds Wiki

  3. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-lancet-and-the-problem-with-women, The Lancet and the Problem With Women, The Spectator, 25th September 2021, Steerpike

  4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Surratt, Edward Surrat, Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0

  5. https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2016/11/09/trucker-who-kept-sex-slaves-in-trailer-on-long-drives-gets-20-years-in-prison/, Trucker Who Kept Sex Slaves In Trailer On Long Drives Gets 20 Years In Prison, CBS Sacramento, November 9th 2016.

  6. https://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mendenhall-bruce.htm. Murderpedia, Bruce Mendenhall.

  7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volker_Eckert, Wikipedia, Volker Eckert, CC BY-SA 3.0

  8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hunter_Jesperson, Wikipedia, Keith Jesperson, CC BY-SA 3.0

  9. https://open.spotify.com/show/2nSjQByMjsSLCVMaarlGxV, Happy Face Podcast, Spotify

  10. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-apr-05-me-serialkillers5-story.html, FBI makes a connection between long-haul truckers, serial killings, Los Angeles Times, April 5th 2009, Scott Glover

  11. https://www.fleetowner.com/operations/drivers/article/21695112/truckers-make-ideal-serial-killers-fbi, Truckers make ideal serial killers: FBI, Fleet Owner, May 23rd 2016, Larry Kahaner.

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Note:

We experienced a minor sound quality issue with this episode, affecting the quality of James' voice due to illness. We apologise if this caused an adverse listening experience.

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

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James discusses the origins of the Cold Case Foundation with Greg Cooper and Dean Jackson, exploring why the case of Robert Ben Rhoades became so integral to the Foundation's creation and how solutions to serial offending can be built from the learning it provides.

This episode includes discussions of the complex issues of trust in policing arising from the tragic murder of Sarah Everard and the conviction of her killer, serving police officer Wayne Couzens. Some listeners may find this episode distressing and we advise additional caution.

You can join Cold Case Live from just $2.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgt7OSsfZs9bvBODssso78A

Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

With Special Thanks:

Greg Cooper, Dean Jackson, and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing unique insight and background materials not available elsewhere.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this episode:

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_Science_Unit#cite_note-:3-5, Behavioural Science Unit, Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0

  2. https://www.missingkids.org/content/dam/missingkids/pdfs/publications/nc70.pdf, Child Molesters: A Behavioural Analysis, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, 2010, Kenneth V. Lanning

  3. Men Who Rape: The Psychology Of The Offender, Springer, 1979, A. Nichloas Growth and H. Jean Birnbaum

  4. http://www.crimelibrary.org/criminal_mind/profiling/hazelwood/2.html, Crime Library, Roy Hazelwood: Profiler of Sexual Crimes, Katherine Ramsland

  5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Japan, Suicide in Japan, Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0

  6. https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/west-memphis-three-3039/, West Memphis Three, Encyclopedia Of Arkansas

  7. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/01/paris-serial-killer-of-80s-and-90s-was-ex-police-officer-dna-shows, Paris serial killer of 80s and 90s was ex-police officer, DNA shows, The Guardian, October 1st 2021, Angelique Chrisafis

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Note:

We experienced a minor sound quality issue with this episode, affecting the quality of James' voice due to illness. We apologise if this caused an adverse listening experience.

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

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James turns his attention to Illinois, and the incarceration of the truck stop killer. He speaks with expert forensic psychologist Dr Allison Schechter - a colleague from the Cold Case Foundation - discussing Sexually Violent Predators and the sexual sadism disorder of serial killer Robert Ben Rhoades.

This episode contains discussions of sexual offending and disturbing homicide cases. Some listeners may find this content upsetting and we especially advise parental caution.

You can join Cold Case Live from just $2.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgt7OSsfZs9bvBODssso78A

Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

With Special Thanks:

Dr Allison Schechter and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing unique forensics insight and background materials not available elsewhere.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this episode:

  1. https://www.deseret.com/2012/3/29/20500547/serial-killer-with-utah-ties-gets-2-more-life-sentences-in-texas, Serial killer with Utah ties gets 2 more life sentences in Texas, Deseret News, March 29 2012, Pat Reavy.

  2. https://www2.illinois.gov/idoc/facilities/Pages/menardcorrectionalcenter.aspx, Illinois.gov

  3. https://www.apa.org/monitor/2010/01/jn, Can the government civilly commit sex offenders?, American Psychological Association Judicial Notebook, January 2010, Marc W. Pearce, JD, PhD, and Leah C. Skovran

  4. https://www.tspr.org/post/expansion-coming-rushville-treatment-and-detention-facility, Expansion Coming to Rushville Treatment and Detention Facility, Tri State Public Radio, March 11 2020, Rich Egger

  5. https://inthesetimes.com/article/civil-commitment-rushville-treatment-detention-facility-prison-indefinite-detention, Inside the Endless Nightmare of Indefinite Detention Under “Civil Commitment”, In These Times, August 19 2020, Sarah Lazare

  6. http://jaapl.org/content/38/3/386, Normative Versus Consequential Ethics in Sexually Violent Predator Laws: An Ethics Conundrum for Psychiatry, The Journal of American Academy Psychiatry and the Law, September 2010, Shoba Sreenivasan, Allen Frances, and Linda E. Weinberger

  7. https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1990&ChapterID=54, Illinois General Assembly, Illinois Compiled Statues, (725 ILCS 207/) Sexually Violent Persons Commitment Act.

  8. https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/practice/dsm, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM–5), American Psychiatric Association

  9. American Psycho, Picador, 1991, Brett Easton Ellis

  10. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24660992/, A quiet ego quiets death anxiety: humility as an existential anxiety buffer, Pub Med / University of Colorado, April 2014, Pelin Kesebir

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

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James turns his attention to Utah, and the 1990 case of an unidentified woman found in the Desert. He speaks with retired Medical Examiner Dr Todd Grey - a colleague from the Cold Case Foundation - discussing how that case was eventually attributed to serial killer Robert Ben Rhoades.

This episode contains discussions of homicide and sexual offences cases and forensic examination techniques. Some listeners may find this content upsetting and we especially advise parental caution.

You can join Cold Case Live from just $2.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

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Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

With Special Thanks:

Dr Todd Grey and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing unique forensics insight and background materials not available elsewhere.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this episode:

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City, Salt Lake City, Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasatch_Fault, Wasatch Fault, Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0
  3. https://www.livescience.com/28782-utah-bigger-earthquakes-wasatch-fault.html, Salt Lake City Could See Bigger Earthquakes, Live Science, April 17 2013, Becky Oskin
  4. https://www.deseret.com/2007/1/5/19993469/tidbits-of-history-151-unusual-highlights-of-salt-lake-county#part-of-downtown-salt-lake-city-will-soon-be-redeveloped-by-the-lds-church-for-decades-the-salt-lake-temple-stood-out-as-the-areas-most-prominent-structure, Tidbits of history — Unusual highlights of Salt Lake County, Deseret News, January 5 2007, Lynn Arave
  5. https://www.deseret.com/pages/about-us, Deseret News, About Us
  6. https://www.england.nhs.uk/establishing-medical-examiner-system-nhs/#:~:text=The%20purpose%20of%20the%20medical,of%20deaths%20to%20the%20coroner, The national medical examiner system, National Health Service
  7. https://www.deseret.com/2005/2/25/19879187/illinois-killer-is-sought-for-trial-in-1990-utah-slaying, Illinois killer is sought for trial in 1990 Utah slaying, Deseret News, February 25 2005, Pat Reavy

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

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James speaks about the case with forensics expert Francine Bardole - a colleague from the Cold Case Foundation - discussing developments in evidence processing and DNA which could, potentially, identify additional victims of Rhoades.

This episode contains discussions of homicide and sexual offences cases and forensic examination techniques. Some listeners may find this content upsetting and we especially advise parental caution.

You can join Cold Case Live from just $2.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

Join Cold Case Live at: https://coldcase.live/join

Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

Find us on social media at:

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With Special Thanks:

Francine Bardole and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing unique forensics insight and background materials not available elsewhere.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this video:

  1. https://www.police1.com/police-products/investigation/dna-forensics/articles/police-history-how-a-magazine-ad-helped-convict-a-rapist-wEnPKjpf6S3brBpF/, Police history: How a magazine ad helped convict a rapist, Police 1, August 28 2018
  2. https://www.police1.com/police-products/investigation/dna-forensics/articles/police-history-how-a-magazine-ad-helped-convict-a-rapist-wEnPKjpf6S3brBpF/, Police history: How a magazine ad helped convict a rapist, Police 1, August 28 2018
  3. https://eu.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2018/12/20/contamination-triggers-delay-kentucky-rape-kits-backlog/2310035002/, Lab contamination slows progress on Kentucky's rape kit backlog, Courier Journal, December 20 2018, Matthew Glowicki
  4. https://www.kuer.org/justice/2019-05-07/private-utah-dna-lab-faces-scrutiny-after-crime-evidence-said-to-be-mishandled, Private Utah DNA Lab Faces Scrutiny After Crime Evidence Said To Be Mishandled, Kuer 90.1, May 7 2019, Rebecca Ellis
  5. https://doi.org/10.1111/1556-4029.14508, Comparison of the M-Vac® Wet-Vacuum-Based Collection Method to a Wet-Swabbing Method for DNA Recovery on Diluted Bloodstained Substrates, Journal of Forensic Sciences Volume 65, Issue 6, Pages 1828-1834, November 2020, Jessica M, McLamb M.S, Lara D, Adams M.S & Mark F. Kavlick Ph.D
  6. https://www.labnews.co.uk/article/2029976/forensics-in-crisis, Forensics In Crisis, Laboratory News, September 2 2019

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

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Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

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James explores the Arizona kidnap and torture of Katie Ford which led to Robert Ben Rhoades' arrest and eventual conviction, and speaks about the case with behavioural expert Dr Lawrence J. Simon - a colleague from the Cold Case Foundation.

This episode contains graphic discussions of criminal behaviour and psychology, and recounts an incident in Arizona which describes the circumstances of a serious sexual offence. Some listeners may find this content upsetting and we especially advise parental caution.

You can join Cold Case Live from just $2.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

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Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

Find us on social media at:

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With Special Thanks:

Dr Lawrence J. Simon and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing unique behavioural insight and background materials not available elsewhere.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this video:

1.       Cold Case Foundation materials. 2.       https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tw/02-29-96/cover.htm

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours  by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

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James pieces together the abduction and brutal murder of Regina Walters, taken from Texas and kept prisoner by truck-driving serial killer Robert Ben Rhoades in 1990. Her body was found months later in Illinois and her boyfriend, Ricky Jones, was found a year later but not identified until 2008.

This episode contains graphic descriptions of crime which some people may find disturbing or offensive and, as the episode covers the sexual assault and murder of a fourteen-year-old girl, we advise that parents do not allow children to listen to this content.

This episode is also available as a full video on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/b77Qu280kLc

You can join Cold Case Live from just $2.99 per month to access exclusive podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, and our training academy. Subscriptions directly support the Cold Case Foundation.

Join Cold Case Live at: https://coldcase.live/join

Presented By:

Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. (https://jjpatrick.com)

Find James on social media at:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/agoodfireburns

Instagram: https://instagram.com/agoodfireburns

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-p-01b12368/

With Special Thanks:

Former FBI Profiler and CEO Greg Cooper and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing background materials not available elsewhere.

Find them on social media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/coldcaseFNDN

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coldcasefoundation/

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cold-case-foundation/

Reference Material for this video:

  1. Roadside Prey, Alva Busch, Pinnacle Books 1996

  2. Cold Case Foundation materials.

  3. http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/identified9.html

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours  by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

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Subtitles are provided by Otter.AI and are created by artificial intelligence. Due to the volume of content we produce, we do not check these text outputs. 

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James pieces together the harrowing account of the abduction, torture, and rape of Shana Holts, who escaped from Robert Ben Rhoades on February 5th 1990.

This is Cold Case Live's exploration of the case of Truck Stop Killer, Robert Ben Rhoades.

This episode contains content which some people may find disturbing or offensive and parental caution is advised.

With Special Thanks:The Cold Case Foundation for providing background materials not available elsewhere.

Reference Material:1. https://caselaw.findlaw.com/il-court-of-appeals/1345482.html

  1. Roadside Prey, Alva Busch, Pinnacle Books 1996

  2. https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/criminality-a-true/criminality-podcast-xAWeY04mDjw/

  3. https://www.gq.com/story/truck-stop-killer-gq-november-2012?printable=true&fbclid=IwAR0XWqy0Eycdm6FKHlNNokdbdJReHo-4jvK5rbEMz9erUE3Jho7Ew7HfJss

  4. Cold Case Foundation materials.

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

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In this episode, James speaks with domestic abuse and addiction survivor, Della.

This is Cold Case Live's exploration of the case of Truck Stop Killer, Robert Ben Rhoades.

This episode contains content which some people may find disturbing or offensive and parental caution is advised.

With Special Thanks:Della, you are an inspiration.

Reference Material:1.IowaColdCases.org

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

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In this second episode of Out Of The Cold's first season, James explores the Iowa city of Council Bluffs and pieces together the Rhoades family tree.

This is Cold Case Live's second step on the trail of the Truck Stop Killer, Robert Ben Rhoades.

This episode contains content which some people may find disturbing or offensive and parental caution is advised.

Reference Material:1.https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/ia/council-bluffs/crime-rate-statistics#:~:text=Violent%20crimes%20are%20defined%20in,a%206.89%25%20decline%20from%202015.

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_Bluffs,_Iowa

  2. The Evil That Men Do, Roy Hazelwood

  3. https://www.iowasexoffender.gov/

  4. https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/52801NCJRS.pdf

  5. https://www.councilbluffslibrary.org/archive/files/original/a24bfd5f909a8b7c4cf761cb18ff7a23.pdf

  6. https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/judith-pleas-supreme-court-decision-3-19-75.pdf

  7. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35169528/ben-rhoades/flower

  8. https://lib.dr.iastate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=10965&context=rtd

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

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In this bonus episode, James expands on the conversation with Pamela Milliken, covering First Nation life and her first-hand experience of missing and murdered indigenous women.

With Special Thanks:

To Pamela Lee Milliken, a simply astonishing human being.

Production:

Out Of The Cold is written and presented by James Patrick.

It is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC.

The cold case platform and all of our digital content is made possible through SOCINT: Social Intelligence.

Music:

Music for our bonus episodes is sourced through Story Blocks and the featured tracks are Slide The Guitar by Neil Cross and Deep In The Bayou by Patrick Smith.   

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In this first episode of Out Of The Cold's first season, James chases an old photograph and finds the First Nation Canadian woman who hitched a ride with a serial killer in the early 1980s and lived to tell her story years later.

This is Cold Case Live's first step on the trail of the Truck Stop Killer, Robert Ben Rhoades.

This episode contains content which some people may find disturbing or offensive and parental caution is advised.

With Special Thanks:

We are forever grateful to Pamela Milliken, North Buffalo Woman, for taking the time to speak us openly and honestly and for sharing her incredible story with the world.

Production:

Out Of The Cold is produced for Cold Case Live by Cynefin Digital Limited in association with AJJ Entertainment LLC

Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/439-final-destination

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/19-prosecution-action-trumpets

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/5626-dark-hours-

License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4837-horizon-flare

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Out Of The Cold launches alongside Cold Case Live in December 2020.