In Episode 104B, we are once again deep in the backcountry on the Benton MacKaye Trail where we sit under the stars and fireside for Backpacker Trivia. In the show, I pose questions from Backpacker Magazine, the U.S. Forest Service, and KSLTV in Salt Lake City on some interesting hiking and backpacking questions from the backcountry.
In the podcast, we have a lot of fun answering trivia questions at our campsite and we actually witness a trail runner on a 60 mile run as we record our podcast! This is a fun episode that definitely merits bonus show status and if you like bonus cuts, you’ll certain enjoy the entire show.
Subject: Backpacker Trivia
Interviewees: 3Dub, Beer Run, Bono, The Weasel, Therm Rider
Interview Date: April 13, 2024
Runtime: 38:26
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In Episode 103, Cardiac and Drone Boy join me for a studio recording of some intriguing hiking and backpacking events that made the news this past year. Some of the topics we discuss include another hiker that found themselves at the bottom of a pit toilet, a loyal dog that survived 72 days on a high peak of Colorado, and a few events that involved Hollywood actors in the backcountry.
Finally we close out with trail stats from the Appalachian Trail this past year and we discuss some ridiculous comments that visitors made on social media after visiting some of our most famous National Parks. If there are any worthy hiking and backpacking news events that we missed – drop us a comment below and Happy New Year!
Subject: Hiking News Review 2023
Interviewees: Cardiac, Drone Boy
Interview Date: January 4, 2023
Runtime: 1:36:04
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In Episode 102, we have our FIRST Halloween special and discuss some of the spooky and crazy ass things that have happened in the backcountry over the last two decades. Cardiac and Drone Boy join me in the studio for this podcast and talk through some disturbing and well publicized events – some don’t have a happy ending. We even share some scary personal encounters and expect that you have your own. So reach out to us and let us know about your spooky experiences on the trail.
In reality, the backcountry is statistically a very safe place – way more than any major metro area in the U.S. So don’t let this episode freak you out. Keep on hiking, be smart, and be aware. Happy Halloween!
Subject: Backcountry Halloween
Interviewees: Cardiac, Drone Boy
Interview Date: October 21, 2023
Runtime: 1:21:28
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In Episode 100, we are back in the studio to celebrate our 100TH episode by recapping some interesting things that have happened in the backcountry since the N2Backpacking podcast first aired 12 years ago. In the show, Cardiac, Drone Boy, and Therm Rider join me for the "Darwin Awards" - a recap of some backcountry mishaps that have happened to us and to other hikers and backpackers over the last decade on the trail.
This is another fun episode that includes hikers falling in pit toilets, getting selfies with bears, and burning their eyeballs - among other things. It's a great way to mark our 100th podcast, and if you have some Darwin experiences of your own please add your comments below.
Subject: The Darwin AwardsInterviewees: Cardiac, Drone Boy, Therm RiderInterview Date: August 13, 2023Runtime: X:XX:XX
Download Now: The Darwin Awards (WMA format 35.9 Meg);The Darwin Awards (MP3 format 106.1 Meg)
In Episode 101, we continue our discussion of The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly - our best and worst experiences on the Trail. Recorded live on the Chattooga River in northwestern South Carolina, I sit fireside with 3Dub, Mick, Hollywood, and Therm Rider after hiking to Long Creek Falls and settling in for the night. In the show we discuss some great sunsets, 3Dub's fall into a Cobra hole, our favorite campsites, and Hollywood's discovery of a tick - in the worst possible place!
This is another fun episode and we only scratch the surface of a lengthy list of experiences that I have tracked at N2Backpacking over 25+ years. So if you have mishaps of your own, check out the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly tab on our website, and help add to our list - or share your own experiences with a comment below...
Subject: The Good, Bad, and Ugly 2Interviewees: 3Dub, Hollywood, Mick, Therm RiderInterview Date: July 03, 2023Runtime: 1:15:22
Download Now: The Good, Bad, and Ugly 2 (WMA format 35.9 Meg);The Good, Bad, and Ugly 2 (MP3 format 70.6 Meg)
In Episode 99, I sit fireside with Therm Rider, Beer Run and Sons on the Benton MacKaye Trail in North Georgia to talk about some things that ruin a backpacking trip. In the podcast, we discuss backpackers that camp on top of you, those that make speaker phone calls, crank booty music or even throw live ammunition into your campfire! We also talk about bad weather, angry insects, and getting sick in the backcountry which had me dumping out a vomit filled hiking boot.
This is a fun episode and we only touch on a handful of topics tonight. So if you have some experiences of your own and would like to share them, please reach out to us via the N2Backpacking website or on our social media pages because we’ll likely expand on this topic in a future podcast.
Subject: Things That Ruin A Backpacking Trip
Interviewees: Beer Run & Sons, Therm Rider
Interview Date: April 15, 2023
Runtime: 45:26
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In Episode 98, Therm Rider, Beer Run, & 3Dub are in the recently renovated studio to discuss Ultralight backpacking. In the show, we discuss WHAT inspired us to start looking at lighter equipment, WHO motivated us – including some gear manufacturers, YouTubers, and fellow podcasters, and WHY some of us are starting to migrate to more Ultralight hiking.
This show is pretty fun and lively, and we don’t take each other too seriously. Plus there is some good information in the podcast for those looking to lighten their load. So tune in and check it out. We talk about gear that we like, some tricks that we use to lighten our packs, and 3Dub discusses the cottage manufacturers that helped him go Ultralight.
Subject: Ultralight!
Interviewees: 3Dub, Beer Run, Therm Rider
Interview Date: January 7, 2023
Runtime: 1:36:43
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In Episode 97, we continue our conversation with Kevin Conley about his book “Above The Ashes” which is a powerful memoir of his cross-country bike journey with dog Rocky. In part two of this podcast, Kevin talks about his trip, writing his book, fundraising for the Wildland Firefighters Foundation- and the incredible support that he received from family, friends, fellow firefighters, and many, many strangers on his ride. This journey helped Kevin overcome one of the darkest moments of his life and win his battle with mental illness.
If you haven’t heard Episode 96, which is part one of this podcast, I encourage you to go back and check it out – because we discuss Kevin’s years leading up to the ride, his mental breakdown, and how he nearly took his own life. It will help you understand his inspiring journey and the many adventures he had on it – including magical experiences in the Apache Nation, his “celebrity” status on the route, and his dramatic 3500 mile finish in St. Augustine, Florida. Kevin is grateful to be alive and tonight and he’ll tell you how this ride put him on a route to recovery and what’s next in his life.
Subject: Above The Ashes – Part Two
Interviewees: Kevin “30 Pack” Conley
Interview Date: November 21, 2022
Runtime: 1:22:18
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Support Kevin
. Visit Kevin’s Website
. Buy Kevin’s Book
. Follow Kevin on Instagram
. Support the Wildland Firefighter’s Foundation
More Episodes w/ Kevin
. Episode 13 (where we talked about his Appalachian Trail thru-hike recorded February 21, 2013)
. Episode 19 & Episode 20 (where he recounts his Pacific Crest Trail thru-hike in a two part series, recorded January 2, 2014)
. Episode 36 and Episode 37, (“30 at 30” where he catches us up on his life since the AT and PCT, a two-part series, recorded October 26, 2016)
In Episode 96, Kevin Conley is back on the show after a six year hiatus to tells us about his last few years as a wildland firefighter, his subsequent battle with mental illness, and his 3500 mile ride across the country to beat it. This journey helped Kevin overcome one of the darkest moments of his life which he details in his recently published book “Above The Ashes” - a powerful memoir of his journey with dog Rocky.
We last spoke with Kevin in 2016 after his thru-hikes on the Appalachian and Pacific Crest Trails while living out of his car for two years and exploring the U.S. Kevin (aka "30 Pack") went on to hike the Wonderland Trail, do numerous bike tours, and complete four hikes on the John Muir Trail. His hiking and backpacking resume is impressive, but his fight for life is inspiring.
In Episode 96 (part one of this two part series), we discuss Kevin's years leading up to the ride, his mental breakdown, and how he nearly took his own life. In Episode 97, Kevin talks about his cross-country bike tour, his book, his fundraising - and the incredible support that he received from family, friends, fellow firefighters, and many, many strangers during his ride. Kevin is grateful to be alive and tonight he is here to tonight to tell you why.
Subject: Above The Ashes - Part One Interviewees: Kevin "30 Pack" ConleyInterview Date: November 21, 2022Runtime: 1:28:16
Download Now: Above The Ashes - Part One (WMA format 42.0 MB); Above The Ashes - Part One (MP3 format (82.7 MB)
Support Kevin
. Visit Kevin's Website
. Buy Kevin's Book
. Follow Kevin on Instagram
. Support the Wildland Firefighter's Foundation
More Episodes w/ Kevin
. Episode 13 (where we talked about his Appalachian Trail thru-hike recorded February 21, 2013)
. Episode 19 & Episode 20 (where he recounts his Pacific Crest Trail thru-hike in a two part series, recorded January 2, 2014)
. Episode 36 and Episode 37, (“30 at 30” where he catches us up on his life since the AT and PCT, a two-part series, recorded October 26, 2016)
In Episode 95B, we are deep in the backcountry at a campsite on the Benton MacKaye Trail where we sit around the campfire and discuss some"first time" experiences in the wilderness. Therm Rider, Beer Run, & Sons all share the first time they found themselves offensive, took a crap in the woods, got a car vandalized, and were scared shitless on the Trail - among other things.
This episode gets a bit rowdy at times, and has been made a bonus show as a result. But if you have a sense of humor, aren't easily offended, and like a good laugh - We have a treat for you! If you like the bonus cut, you'll really enjoy the complete show. For full access to this recording and for downloads of the entire 90+ podcast series – click here.
Interviewees: Beer Run & Sons, Therm RiderInterview Date: April 23, 2022Runtime: 49:14 (Full Version)
Download Now: First Timers (WMA format 38.0 MB); First Timers (MP3 format (52.9 MB)
In Episode 94, Brian Anderson (aka "The Tick Terminator") joins the show to educate us on your biggest danger in the backcountry - TICKS!!! In the podcast, we discuss the tick lifecycle, when and where they are most likely to find you, how to prevent ticks, and what to do if one embeds in your skin. This discussion hit home for me personally since I was infected by and recovered from Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. After two days in the hospital, a home healthcare nurse came to my house for a week to administer steroids via IV. After 3 months, I fully recovered - and was actually lucky to have Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever and not Lyme disease! Tune in to find out why. And if you live East of the Mississippi and hike frequently - you can't afford to miss this show...
Subject: Ticks!!!Interviewees: Brian AndersonInterview Date: March 31, 2022Runtime: 1:04:13
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In Episode 93, John Phillips joins the show to talk about the Ocean To Lake Trail in Central Florida. This 61.4 mile spur of the Florida Trail starts at Lake Okeechobee and heads due east to Hobe Sound Beach where it ends at the Atlantic Ocean. In the show, John tells us what it’s like hiking all day in ankle deep water, about finding rest areas and campsites in the swamp, and how he frequently encountered wildlife on his hike – including poisonous snakes, stealthy alligators, and over 50 wild hogs. John is originally from Florida and started hiking in the State after discovering backpacking in a BSA leadership class. He has hiked the Ocean To Lake Trail multiple times – and was met by the police at the conclusion of his most recent hike. Find out why in Episode 93 and learn everything you need to know for an exciting winter trip on the Ocean To Lake Trail.
Subject: Ocean To Lake Trail Interviewees: John PhillipsInterview Date: March 21, 2022Runtime: 49:14
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In Episode 92, the Camel joins me in the studio to discuss the Suwannee River section of the Florida Trail which we hiked this winter. If you are not familiar with the Suwannee, it is a 246 mile river that begins in the Okefenokee Swamp in South Georgia and ends at the Gulf of Mexico in the northern panhandle of Florida.
On our trip, we backpacked ~34 miles moving downstream and east to west on the Suwannee - from the town of White Springs to Gibson County Park. This section of the Florida Trail is frequently mentioned as a favorite among backpackers, and during the winter months is one of the drier areas on the Florida Trail.
In the show, we discuss the dark tannin waters and white sand beaches of the river. We review some native American history in the area, and talk about the springs and sink holes along the Florida Trail. This section is surprisingly challenging - despite the biggest climb being only 80 feet at Devil's Mountain. Find out why and much more in Episode 92!
Subject: Florida Trail (Suwannee River)Interviewees: The CamelInterview Date: January 27, 2022Runtime: 48:29
Download Now: Florida Trail (Suwannee River) (WMA format 23.6 MB); Florida Trail (Suwannee River) (MP3 format (69.8 MB)
In Episode 91B, Matt from the "Boyz In The Wood" tells us about his 1994 northbound thru-hike on the Appalachian Trail in a limited N2Backpacking bonus edition. This is the fifth release in a special series to celebrate the 25th anniversary of our hike, and it was recorded at Trail Days on May 13, 1995 in Damascus, Virginia.
Matt hiked with partner Derek as the "Boyz In Wood" in '94, and in this bonus episode we flashback to the mid-90's to speak with Matt about the trip. The interview was done in a car and with a small handheld mic and cassette tape recorder. So don’t expect high fidelity in this recording – but I’m grateful to have this and a total of 11 recordings of my thru-hiking buddies from 1994. For access to this recording and for downloads of the entire 90+ podcast series - click here.
Subject: Boyz In The Wood Interviewees: MattInterview Date: May 13, 1995Runtime: 32:40 (Full Version)
Download Now: Boyz In The Wood (WMA format 15.9MB); Boyz In The Wood (MP3 format 47.0MB)
In Episode 90, we are in the mountains near Hays, North Carolina to discuss "party fouls" or bad hiker etiquette on the trail. In the show, we discuss some of the bad behavior that was frequently mentioned in online articles, posts, and videos. We comment if we've been guilty of it, witnessed it, or agree that it IS indeed bad hiking etiquette. We also suggest what you SHOULD do on the trail and close the podcast with some gear fails that can ruin your day.
This is a special interview, because we get together to hike in the Jefferson National Forest for two days. AND we hang out in a mountain cabin as a tribute to The Camel's milestone birthday year. We also have a chance to discuss the weekend impacts of gas station sandwiches, wild horses, and aggressive cows. Plus we get The Kidd excited about the N2Backpacking bidet and the Camel stirred up about the She-Wee!!! So check-out Episode 90 and drop The Camel a birthday wish here.
Subject: Party Foul!Interviewees: The Camel, The Operator, The KiddInterview Date: August 21, 2021Runtime: 1:20:49
Download Now: Party Foul! (WMA format 38.4 MB); Party Foul! (MP3 format (75.7 MB)
In Episode 89, we flashback to 1995 for an interview with StuffSack about his thru-hike on the Appalachian Trail the previous year. StuffSack and I stayed in contact after our summer together and were able to connect for this interview when he visited Charlotte, N.C. about four months after we completed our thru-hike. In the interview, StuffSack talks about his first week on the Appalachian Trail, good and bad days, hitchhiking, and his most favorite State on the Trail.
This interview is 1 of 11 that I did with the thru-hiking class of 1994 less than a year after we finished our hikes - and you will not hear me speak in this episode. Stuffsack will speak solo - and I hope to have him back on the show this year to see what he's been up to since. I'm also working to get these 11 episodes sprinkled in with our regular podcasts as either bonus or regular shows - pending permission from the interviewees. In the meantime, you can click back to Episode 41 for a snapshot of these 11 discussions which were consolidated into a single podcast. Or you can click below for Episode 89 and hear Stuffsack's interview from February 19, 1995. So glad that I have these interviews so many years later ...
Subject: StuffSackInterviewees: Keith (StuffSack)Interview Date: February 19, 1995Runtime: 23:12
Download Now: StuffSack ( (WMA format 11.3 MB); StuffSack (MP3 format 33.4 MB)
In Episode 88, we break from the typical format to take a look back at 10 years of podcasting. The N2Backpacking podcast launched a decade ago this Spring, so Therm Rider joins me in the studio to talk about some of the original podcasters, the evolution of backpacking shows these last ten years, and the origins of the N2Backpacking podcast. We also discuss our favorite episodes and play a few clips from them.
A decade goes by pretty fast, so Therm Rider and I close the podcast with projections on how both podcasting and backpacking may evolve over the next ten years. And we specifically discuss how some things may change here in the Southeast. Check this show out - it's a great summary of 10 years of podcasting!
Subject: A Look Back (And Forward)Interviewees: Therm RiderInterview Date: May 28, 2021Runtime: 1:08:18
Download Now: A Look Back (And Forward) (WMA format 33.3 MB); A Look Back (And Forward) (MP3 format 65.5 MB)
In Episode 87, we celebrate the 10th anniversary of the show by speaking with Glenn (Helmet) & Susan (Doughgirl) who were in the inaugural N2Backpacking podcast - recorded just over 10 years ago. We last spoke with them in April 2011 when they detailed their thru-hike of the John Muir Trail, but they are here tonight to update us on their adventures this last decade - including caring for their 3 kids, visiting the National Parks, and raising an outdoor family.
We also have time to talk about our first trips together in the wilderness, our favorite gear, and their plans for the coming summer. So check out the show and catch up with Helmet and Doughgirl, or go retro and follow this link to Episode 1 to flash back 10 years and hear our discussion on the JMT.
Subject: 10th Anniversary ShowInterviewees: Glenn (Helmet) & Susan (Doughgirl)Interview Date: May 26, 2021Runtime: 52:54
Download Now: 10th Anniversary Show (WMA format 25.8 MB); 10th Anniversary Show (MP3 format 50.7 MB)
In Episode 86, I welcome fellow podcasters Scott and Ariane to the show. They are the hosts of the popular backpacking podcast “Trust The Trail”, and despite living within 15 minutes of each other these last few years in metro-Atlanta, we chat long distance from their retrofitted 1976 Airstream camper in Arizona.
In the podcast, Scott and Ariane discuss life on the road, their backpacking show, how they met, and their life as backcountry guides. This podcast is simulcast on both our podcast networks - so check it out - or you can click to the Trust The Trail website and hear their release.
Subject: Trust The TrailInterviewees: Scott & ArianeInterview Date: April 1, 2021Runtime: 1:32:55
Download Now: Trust The Trail (WMA format 45.3 MB); Trust The Trail (MP3 format 89.1 MB)
In Episode 85, "The Man Who Hiked It All" is back on the podcast to tell us about one of his favorite long distance trails - The AZT. The Arizona Trail is a nearly 800 mile path that runs from Mexico to Utah and Bart Smith thru-hiked it all in 2009 - the year that it was first designated as a National Scenic Trail. In the show, Bart tells us about his walk through the lowlands of the Sonoran Desert, his climbs to the sky islands of the San Francisco Peaks, and his traverse of the majestic Grand Canyon. We also discuss some logistics of his thru-hike on the AZT - including getting to the trailheads, resupply, permits, and timing the seasons to get the most out of your hike.
If the winter snows have you dreaming of warmer climates, or if Covid 19 has you feeling cooped up in the house - then the Arizona Trail is waiting for you this Spring. Check out the podcast and learn more! Or click to Bart's website and get inspired by his books and photography.
Subject: The Arizona TrailInterviewees: Bart Smith (Infinite Dust)Interview Date: February 4, 2021Runtime: 1:11:53
Download Now: The Arizona Trail (WMA format 35.0 MB); The Arizona Trail (MP3 format 103.52 MB)
In Episode 84, Paul Barach tells us about his 750 mile and 42 day backpacking trip on the Shikoku Pilgrimage in Japan. In the show, Paul shares the history of this religious Buddhist route, talks about hiking in traditional pilgrim clothing, and shares some of the challenges that he faced - including heat, hunger, injuries, and infections.
You can check out Paul's book "Fighting Monks & Burning Mountains" for all the details, or listen to this interesting discussion about a little known thru-hike and religious journey on the remote island of Shikoku, Japan. The trail passes 88 temples and sacred sites where the Buddhist priest Kūkai (Kōbō Daishi) trained during the 9th Century.
Subject: Shikoku PilgrimageInterviewees: Paul BarachInterview Date: January 14, 2021Runtime: 1:22:17
Download Now: Shikoku Pilgrimage (WMA format 39.2 MB); Shikoku Pilgrimage (MP3 format 77.2 MB)
In Episode 83, Samantha Bode joins the show to talk about her 338 mile and 65 day hike along the Los Angeles aqueduct in California. In the show, we talk about this unique and rarely attempted route, some of the challenges that Samantha faced, and how the ranchers, native Americans, and Los Angeles water personnel viewed her hike.
Since the 1950's, Southern California has been growing at an explosive rate and this podcast is about L.A.'s ever expanding need for water as much as it is about backpacking. But The Longest Straw is a fascinating film and long distance journey along a pipeline that is largely forgotten by those that live in the City. For more information on this documentary, you can follow this link to visit Samantha's website.
Subject: The Longest StrawInterviewees: Samantha Bode (Aqua Duck)Interview Date: December 15, 2020Runtime: 1:18:39
Download Now: The Longest Straw (WMA format 37.4 MB); The Longest Straw (MP3 format 73.7 MB)
In Episode 82, we offer up a "Backcountry Thanksgiving" - just in time for the Holidays, and cooked fresh and right outside our studio this evening. In the show, we deliver not 1 but 2 four course Thanksgiving meals that are lightweight, inexpensive, and ready for you to take into the wilderness. And we pack the studio with a record six people to taste each of them - sampling hot drinks, appetizers, a main course, and desserts.
This is a family feast tonight - with two members of our panel under the age of 16. The group also discusses our plans for the coming week, and some hiking and backpacking trips from past Thanksgiving Holidays. Then we risk illness to sample green beans that are 13 years past their expiration date. Don't miss this episode ... it is a classic. And you can get our entire menu here.
Subject: Backcountry ThanksgivingInterviewees: Cardiac, Drone Boy, Sid, Therm Rider, WillInterview Date: November 16, 2020Runtime: 55:46
Download Now: Backcountry Thanksgiving (WMA format 26.5 MB); Backcountry Thanksgiving (MP3 format 52.2 MB)
In Episode 81, Jennifer “Sprinkles” Kelley is back on the show to share some great information on how to hike the Tahoe Rim Trail - which runs nearly 170 miles along the border of Nevada and California. If you work full time and dream of a thru-hike, then this is the show for you.
In the podcast, we discuss logistics, permits, wildlife, resupply, and why a 10 day hike on the TRT is the ultimate first thru-hike. We also catch up her life since we spoke on the podcast five years ago in Episode 28. For more on Sprinkles and her travels, click this link to access her website and follow her on social media.
Subject: Tahoe Rim TrailInterviewees: Jennifer “Sprinkles” KelleyInterview Date: November 12, 2020Runtime: 1:00:52
Download Now: Tahoe Rim Trail (WMA format 29.7 MB); Tahoe Rim Trail (MP3 format 87.6 MB)
In Episode 80, Dan Kreesberg joins the show to talk about raising an outdoor kid. Dan is a naturalist, teacher, and a writer with numerous books, articles, and newspaper columns to his credit - many focused on teaching children how to appreciate the wilderness. So in the podcast tonight, we discuss camping, hiking, and backpacking with kids - whether they are a toddler, child, or teenager.
Dan and I cover topics including taking kids on their first wilderness trip, what to do before you leave the house, what to do when you hit the trail, and we discuss some common mistakes that parents make. Dan also tells us about his 40+ years of backpacking, how he raised an outdoor family, and shares his hiking plans now that his kids are grown adults. Check out Dan's website to learn how to raise an outdoor kid or Best Hikes With Kids for more information.
Subject: Hiking With KidsInterviewees: Dan KreesbergInterview Date: October 6, 2020Runtime: 1:12:06
Download Now: Hiking With Kids (WMA format 33.1 MB); Hiking With Kids (MP3 format 66.5 MB)
In Episode 79, Phillip (aka 3 Dub) joins us again to talk about his summer backpacking ~2400 miles in Spain and Portugal via multiple routes on the Camino de Santiago in 2019. We last spoke with Phillip two years ago in Episode 56 when he talked in detail about his first hike on the Camino. There's great information on how to hike the trail in that podcast, but he returns to the show tonight to talk again about the historic routes and why he did multiple thru-hikes of the trail last year.
We also discuss Phillip's time on the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and Tour de Mont Blanc these last two years, what drives him to explore these long distance trails, and he shares a recent adventure where he left his backcountry campsite in the middle of the night.
Subject: Summer In SpainInterviewees: Phillip (3 Dub)Interview Date: August 20, 2020Runtime: 1:09:00
Download Now: Summer In Spain (WMA format 33.0 MB); Summer In Spain (MP3 format 66.2 MB)
In Episode 78, Sarah Histand tells us about her three week traverse of the Brooks Range in Northern Alaska. She is a native Alaskan who has done multiple packrafting and backpacking trips across the Brooks Range and throughout the State. So Sarah talks about the logistics of the summer trip - including trailheads, resupply, the wildlife, and how to maintain communications across this vast wilderness that stretches ~700 miles across northern Alaska into Canada's Yukon Territory.
Did I mention that Sara is a personal trainer? Well she is ... and she has designed a website to get you into shape for your next backpacking adventure. We also discuss the importance of preparing your body for the backcountry, common injuries that hikers and backpackers face, and simple exercises that you can do at home to prepare for your next multi-day adventure.
Subject: Brooks RangeInterviewees: Sarah HistandInterview Date: July 30, 2020Runtime: 1:15:37
Download Now: Brooks Range (WMA format 36.8 Meg); Brooks Range (MP3 format 72.5 Meg)
In Episode 77, Philip Werner shares his experiences with the TGO Challenge which is a ~200 mile sea to sea crossing of the Scottish Highlands in the United Kingdom. The event draws close to 400 people each year and requires a pre-approved route across the mountain ranges and bogs of Scotland. Philip has completed two TGO backpacking trips and tells us the basics about the 15 day event.
In the show, we also discuss his his popular website SectionHiker.com, Phillip's guidebook on and passion for the White Mountains, and his transition from the software industry to a better life pursuing the wilderness.
Subject: TGO ChallengeInterviewees: Philip WernerInterview Date: July 10, 2020Runtime: 1:01:12
Download Now: TGO Challenge (WMA format 34.7 Meg); TGO Challenge (MP3 format 68.3 Meg)
In Episode 76, Aaron Owens Mayhew joins the podcast. She is a registered dietary nutritionist, long distance hiker, and entrepreneur that offers some tips on eating healthy and feasting like a King or Queen as you explore the backcountry. In the show, Aaron provides some tips on meal planning and offers some suggestions for inexpensive, tasty, and lightweight meals. She also tells us some common misconceptions and mistakes that backpackers make on the Trail.
Aaron has spent the last two years traveling the country, running her meal planning business, and embracing the vanlife. So join us for this interesting conversation on how she made a major pivot in her life and can help you with your next backcountry feast. Or for more information on recipes and meal planning, check out her Backcountry Foodie website.
Subject: Backcountry EatsInterviewees: Aaron Owens Mayhew (Sling)Interview Date: May 7, 2020Runtime: 56:04
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In Episode 75, Tim Harrison snowmobiles to the top of Bates Ridge in northern Maine to catch up after our visit to Harrison's Pierce Pond Camps last fall. The camp is 1/10th of a mile off the Appalachian Trail and is coveted by thru-hikers for the hearty 7am breakfast - served to backpackers in the scenic backdrop off Pierce Pond Lean-To and 16 miles from the nearest township.
In the show, Tim tells us about running the camp since 1986, his experience with hikers over the years, shares some happy and sad moments at Pierce Pond, and offers some suggestions for those backpacking in Maine. Sound interesting? Then listen in or learn more about the camp here.
Subject: Harrison's Pierce Pond CampsInterviewees: Tim HarrisonInterview Date: April 8, 2020Runtime: 46:28
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In Episode 74, we record at a historic time. Coronavirus has caused a worldwide pandemic. The governor of Georgia just cancelled school for the year and ordered a "shelter in place" mandate across the State. So tonight we skip the studio interview, record with a combo of Skype, Join Me, and Zoom, and embrace the social distancing guidelines of the CDC.
In the show, we discuss our time on the Trail this month, talk about how hiking has changed over the last two weeks, and what city, state, national forest and national parks are doing in our area. We also talk briefly with Cardiac and Drone Boy about the impact on the Appalachian Trail community, and on thru-hiking in general.
It's not all doom and gloom though. There's some comedy in the podcast as we discuss our favorite Netflix shows, some worthy hiking/backpacking movies, our emergency preparedness (pre-pandemic), and the hiking plans we have when this is over.
Subject: The Pandemic PodcastInterviewees: Gary (Drone Boy), Scott (Cardiac)Interview Date: April 1, 2020Runtime: 1:01:16
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In Episode 73, we discuss the most appropriate hiking & backpacking songs for the trail. The assignment was to come to the studio with 3 songs that relate to hiking/backpacking - in either the lyrics or song title. In the show, we listen and debate each song and give honorable mention to some others that didn't make our list.
This is a very subjective topic with many options and opinions and it is likely to stir up some controversy. We rarely reach agreement since there are multiple ways to define "appropriate", and a member of our group even goes rogue with 3 songs that he enjoys while on the trail - which results in a side conversation.
Regardless - this is an entertaining show that will have you scratching your head, laughing out loud, and thinking of your top 3. Drop us a note when you do ... and I'll post them below!
Subject: Tunes For The Trail?Interviewees: Gary (Drone Boy), Scott (Cardiac), Steve (Stickman, Tony (1 Beer/1 Song)Interview Date: January 21, 2020Runtime: 1:12:24
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In Episode 72, Victoria Livschitz tells us about "Right On Trek", a website to help hikers and backpackers plan their multi-day backpacking trips. Victoria did her first thru-hike on the John Muir Trail only a few years ago but has since embraced the sport and logged recent ventures into Patagonia and the Grand Canyon.
She joins the show this evening to tell us about her introduction to backpacking, how it changed her life, and why the serial entrepreneur was motivated to create other tools to help backpackers plan their ventures in to the wilderness. Victoria is asked to compare her tools to other well known applications on the market - like Guthook and AllTrails. Join us for this interesting conversation.
Subject: Right On TrekInterviewees: Victoria LivschitzInterview Date: January 23, 2020Runtime: 54:26
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In Episode 71, Ken Strange joins the show to discuss his recent book It's Your Camino which documents his ~500 mile hike with wife Aurora through the countries of France and Spain. In the podcast, Ken gives us some history of the Camino, talks about working with Martin Sheen (who starred in the movie The Way), gives us some tips on how to publish a book, and tells us about his chance TV interview on the Camino about the disappearance of childhood and family-friend Anne McCarrick.
Ken is a retired FBI agent who met his wife during a six year stint working for a prince in Saudi Arabia. He and Aurora, both strong in their Catholic faith, eventually made their way back to Spain to hike the Camino and explore the many alburges, churches, and castles on the former Roman footpath.
So if the Camino is firmly on the your wish list - you are going to enjoy this interview. And you can check out Episode 56 and 30 for further motivation. Happy Holidays - and may Santa bring you a long distance Trail for Christmas!
Subject: It's Your CaminoInterviewees: Ken StrangeInterview Date: December 19, 2019Runtime: 1:25:44
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In Episode 70, we talk about some great hiking and backpacking gift ideas for the Holidays. Cardiac and Drone Boy are back on the show to talk about outdoor gear for beginners, weekend warriors, long-distance hikers, and kids - and just in time for the Holiday shopping season. We also offer up some backpacking gifts for $50 or less, and review some not so wonderful gift ideas from Christmas past.
You can see the live video recording of this podcast on Drone Boy's YouTube channel, or click below to follow us on your favorite podcast app - including iHeart Radio where we recently launched. Happy Holidays!
Subject: Backpacker ChristmasInterviewees: Scott (Cardiac); Gary (Drone Boy)Interview Date: November 24, 2019Runtime: 1:04:37
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In Episode 69, Cardiac and Drone Boy are back after a nearly two year hiatus to discuss a "Dozen Ways To Die In the Backcountry" - an article that first appeared in Backpacker Magazine in 2008 and was recently published online.
The topic tonight is timely since we record Halloween eve and take a "stab" at the Top 12 reasons hikers and backpackers get killed in the wilderness. We also discuss what was left off the list (and merits inclusion) plus offer up some lessons to assure you are not a casulty in the wilderness.
You can see the live video recording of this podcast on Drone Boy's YouTube channel, or for a bonus show that covers this topic in a more rowdy and explicit manner check out Episode 62 "Backpacker Feud".
Subject: A Dozen Ways To DieInterviewees: Scott (Cardiac); Gary (Drone Boy)Interview Date: October 30, 2019Runtime: 1:01:32
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In Episode 68, "IronWill" Callahan joins the show to tell us what it's like being a teenage thru-hiker on the Appalachian Trail. In February of this year, Will left Springer Mountain at the age of 17 and hiked northbound to Woods Hole in Virginia where he discovered he had a fractured tibia. After taking a break to heal, he returned to the trail to finish his hike - completing the Vermont to Virginia section southbound.
In the podcast, Will talks about what it's like being one of the youngest thru-hikers on the trail. He also describes the southbound experience and tells us about hiking solo after the thru-hiker masses cleared out.
For more on Will's journey you can click over to his Instagram account to see some photos from his hike.
Subject: Teenage Thru-HikerInterviewees: Will (aka IronWill)Interview Date: October 6, 2019Runtime: 38:28
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In Episode 67, Kaylee (aka "Smiles") is back on the show to tell us about her summer hike across Jotunheimen National Park. The park is recognized as one of Norway's premier hiking and fishing regions and it has 250 peaks that rise above 6,000 feet - including Northern Europe's two highest peaks, Galdhøpiggen and Glittertind.
In the interview, Kaylee tells us about her solo journey through the park, hiking the famed Bessengen Ridge, walking hut-to-hut, and how this route compares to her travels on the Tour Du Mont Blanc further south in Europe. Kaylee also hints at what is next on her backpacking list - so listen in for all the details.
For more on Kaylee's adventures you can click over to her Instagram account or see more photos from her hike at this link
Subject: Jotunheimen National ParkInterviewees: Kaylee (aka Smiles)Interview Date: October 6, 2019Runtime: 57:26
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In Episode 66, the Motor City Ramblers tell us about their 1994 thru-hike on the Appalachian Trail. This is the third release in a special series to celebrate the 25th anniversary of our hike, and it was recorded at Trail Days on May 13, 1995 in Damascus, Virginia.
In this episode, we flashback 25 years to Damascus to sit by the river and talk about the Motor City Rambler's Appalachian Trail thru-hike. The interview was done in a field, with a small handheld mic and cassette tape recorder. So don't expect high fidelity - but I'm grateful to have this and all 11 recordings of my thru-hiking buddies and A.T. Class of 1994.
Subject: Motor City RamblersInterviewees: Bob & DianeInterview Date: May 13, 1995Runtime: 47:15
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In Episode 65, Johnny Malloy tells us about his passion for hiking and backpacking and how it led to a 30+ year career as a guidebook author. Johnny graduated from the University of Tennessee in the 80's with an economics degree but decided to never work a 9-5 job. He is now an accomplished outdoor writer and columnist with over 70 camping, fishing, hiking, and padding guidebooks to his credit - covering 26 States in the U.S. with many in the heart of Dixie.
We recently met at Trail Days and speak on the show about the guidebook business, on what it takes to be successful, and on how to win over a publisher and be a full time writer. Johnny also found a way to live out his dreams in the wilderness and currently averages 150-200 nights in the backcountry each year. Jealous? If you are at a point of transition in your life - he has the blueprint for your future. Love what you do, and you'll never work a day in your life.
Subject: Dream JobInterviewees: Johnny MalloyInterview Date: July 22, 2019Runtime: 1:15:21
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In Episode 64, Gary "Drone Boy" Vaughan returns to the show to discuss our May trip to Appalachian Trail Days in Damascus, Virginia. He recently chauffeured me to the annual event where I joined the Class of 1994 to celebrate the 25th Anniversary of our thru-hike.
In the podcast, we talk about what it's like for a first timer at the event, what it’s like for a veteran of the festival (that hasn’t been for 20 years), and review our experiences at Tent City, in town, and on the parade route - where I walked with my class in the annual Trail Days parade.
Did I mention that we drove to Damascus in a 100% electric car ??? We'll discuss that too, and talk briefly about our hike on the Appalachian Trail near Roan Mountain on the drive up.
For more information on Trail Days, you can click here, or check-out Episode 41 at N2Backpacking to hear more from the Class of 1994 who I interviewed during our 1st anniversary at Trail Days a year after our thru-hike.
Subject: Trail Days 2019Interviewees: Gary "Drone Boy" Interview Date: June 8, 2019Runtime: 1:27:41 Podcast Video: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
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In Episode 63, I speak with Black Sunshine about his 1994 thru-hike on the Appalachian Trail. This is the second release in a flashback series where we speak with 11 prospective thru-hikers about their attempt to complete the A.T. in a single year. It was recorded in Charlotte, N.C. on March 5th, 1995, and is part of a series to honor the 25th anniversary of our '94 thru-hike on the A.T.
In the episode, Black Sunshine tells us about his winter start in Georgia, the Virginia blues, and his eventual jump North to escape the brutal Southern heat and humidity. He also shares some personal tips for enjoying a long distance hike on the A.T.
For a change of format, you will not hear me in this podcast. Black Sunshine speaks solo and candidly on the highs and lows of the journey - with some sound effects bridging the gaps. You can click to Episode 41 for a compilation of this series, or check out the Trail Days 2019 podcast to learn more about the annual event.
Subject: Appalachian Trail Thru-Hiker Bonus Series (Black Sunshine) Interviewees: Rob ( Black Sunshine)Interview Date: March 5, 1995Runtime: 43:08
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In Episode 62, we discuss a dozen ways to die in the backcountry - based on an article published in Backpacker magazine and recently updated on their online website. In the show, Beer Run and Therm Rider join me for a "Backpacker Feud" (patterned after the TV game show) to name the top ten killers in the backcountry. Not to make light of the top dangers in the wilderness ... but they are worth knowing and you'll most certainly be surprised by what is NOT on the list.
This podcast was recorded at a remote backcountry cabin near the Chattahoochee National Forest at Lake Burton. So it's not a studio recording - but the show is entertaining and informative nonetheless. It is also more rowdy than our normal podcasts, so we flagged this episode as a bonus show available to supporters of the podcast. Follow this link for access, or check back in a few months for an expanded and unrestricted discussion of this topic.
Subject: Backpacker FeudInterviewees: Beer Run, Therm RiderInterview Date: June 14, 2019Runtime: 23:59
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In Episode 61, Alex "Money $hot" Maier returns to the show to talk with us about his recent film and adventure on the 812 mile Hayduke Trail which starts in Arches National Park and finishes in Zion National Park - traversing the slot canyons, desert washes, and mountain ranges that make the deserts lands of Southern Utah and North Arizona some of the most scenic landscapes in North America.
In the podcast, Alex tells us about the remote wilderness and true solitude that awaits you on the Hayduke, and with brutal honesty discusses the desert hazards that make this one of the most challenging thru-hikes in North America.
Money Shot also shares with us some valuable lessons from the Hayduke, and hints at why thru-hiking these lesser traveled routes may provide a front and backcountry experience that is hard to find on some of the major long distance trails of North America these days.
For more information on Alex, you can click to his website or follow this link to watch his video for FREE on YouTube. And to hear my conversation with “Money Shot”, see below…
Subject: The HaydukeInterviewees: Alex "Money $hot" Interview Date: February 21, 2019Runtime: 1:46:55
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In Episode 60, Troubadour tells us about his 1994 thru-hike on the Appalachian Trail. This is the first release in a special bonus series to celebrate the 25th anniversary of our hike, and it was recorded at Trail Days on May 13, 1995 in Damascus, Virginia.
After finishing the A.T. in 1994, Troubadour went on to hike the Pacific Crest Trail in 1999 and the Continental Divide Trails in 2002 - walking nearly 10,000 miles and completing the Triple Crown - which we discuss in detail in Episode 18.
In this episode, however, we flashback 25 years to Damascus to sit by the river and talk about Troubadour's Appalachian Trail thru-hike. The interview was done in a field, with a small handheld mic and cassette tape recorder. So don't expect high fidelity - but I'm grateful to have this and all 11 recordings of my thru-hiking buddies and A.T. Class of 1994.
Subject: TroubadourInterviewees: Stephen Interview Date: May 13, 1995Runtime: 48:13
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In Episode 59, I speak with Bart Smith (aka Infinite Dust) who was recently featured in Backpacker Magazine as "The Man Who Hiked It All". Since 1992, Bart has hiked nearly 35,000 miles on 30 of America's National Scenic and Historic Trails - completing the last of the Trails by October 2nd, 2018 to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the National Trails Act.
In the show, Bart tells us about his backcountry photography, the coffee table book he completed with Earl Shaffer on the Appalachian Trail, the photo book he did with Karen Berger on the Pacific Crest Trail, and shares some of his favorite moments capturing scenes in the backcountry.
So if you have the thru-hiking bug, and want to learn more about our National Scenic Trails - now is you chance to hear from the "Man Who Hiked It All." You can also click to Bart's website to see his photography and learn more about his travels.
Subject: The Man Who Hiked It AllInterviewees: Bart (aka Infinite Dust)Interview Date: December 13, 2018Runtime: 1:53:39
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In Episode 58, Michael and Tim tell us about their recent hike to Havasu Falls in Northern Arizona. You’ve likely seen the iconic photos of the Falls - the turquoise water set against the desert canyon walls, the idyllic swimming holes surrounded by sunbathing backpackers, this oasis in the middle of a barren Grand Canyon. And you've probably thought about hiking here ... but these guys have actually done it. And they backpacked to the Falls at the ages of 10 and 12!
So if these kids can do it .... you can too. In the podcast, the boys are going to tell you all about their trip - and get you motivated to backpack in and camp at Havasu Falls for a few days. On the show we find out more about the trail to the Falls, discover what the campsites are like, talk about guide services in the area, and learn how to plan a trip to this special canyon. And if Havasu Falls isn't on your bucket list now - it just may be by the time you finish this podcast. For trip details, pricing, etc. click here.
Subject: Havasu FallsInterviewees: Michael, TimInterview Date: November 4, 2018Runtime: 31:23
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In Episode 57, Rand tells us about his recent Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim hike through the Grand Canyon in Arizona. This spring he hiked the 42 mile route in 12 hours starting at the South Rim at sunrise, tagging the North Rim by noon, and returning to his starting point near The Yavapai Lodge by sunset - logging more than 20K feet of elevation change while on the trail.
In the podcast, Rand tells us about the backcountry experience - with suggestions on how and when to hike the route and intel on what to expect while you are on the Trail. So click below for the show or track us down on Spotify. We just launched the podcast series this week on their network.
Subject: Rim-to-Rim-to-RimInterviewees: RandInterview Date: November 1, 2018Runtime: 1:01:27
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In Episode 56, 3 Dub (aka the World Wide Wanderer) returns to the show to tell us about his spring hike on the 477 mile Camino de Santiago through the countries of France and Spain. You might recall that Phillip spent 7 months hiking northbound or "NOBO" on the Appalachian Trail last summer and that we spoke in Episode #51 only a few days before his departure to Europe to hike the Camino.
In the podcast, 3 Dub updates us on his travels and shares some tips and tricks for thru-hiking the Camino de Santiago. Phillip also tells us what it's like to re-enter the working world after spending the last year on the trail - and hints at his next great adventure! For more background on 3Dub, check out Episode #7 or click to his Instagram page to see more photos from his backpacking adventures.
Subject: Camino de SantiagoInterviewees: Phillip (aka 3Dub)Interview Date: September 27, 2018Runtime: 1:23:06
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In Episode 55, Kaylee (aka "Smiles") tells us about her recent thru-hike on the Tour du Mont Blanc which is one of the most popular long-distance walks in Europe. It circles the Mont Blanc massif, covering a distance of roughly 170 kilometres (110 mi) and passes through parts of Switzerland, Italy and France.
In the show, Kaylee tells us about the TMB hut system, "wild" camping, the critters, the ladder climbs, and the Sound Of Music scenery that awaits you on this trail. There's a reason that 60,000 people hike a portion of the Tour du Mont Blanc trail each year. So if you are looking for a great European adventure that you can do in two weeks or less - Kaylee has all the details.
For more on Kaylee's adventures you can click over to her Instagram account or see more photos from her hike on the Tour du Mont Blanc at this link
Subject: Tour Du Mont BlancInterviewees: Kaylee (aka Smiles)Interview Date: August 2, 2018Runtime: 1:18:57
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In Episode 54, we discuss Backpacker Magazine's list of 35 Awesome (and Awesomely Bad) Outdoor Movies while sitting fireside on the Chattooga River. In the show, I review the hiking and backpacking movies on Backpacker's list with 3Dub, BeerRun, Brownie, The Camel, Napster, The Ox, and Wagonhammer after we sit out a rainstorm on the river. We discuss the movie, the plot, and the major actors of each film. Then after a brief debate, the group gives a thumbs-up or down on the movie. We are sometimes enthusiastic and sometimes not, but frequently have strong opinions on each show - and rarely agree on all the films on the list.
FOREWARNING, this podcast is more edgy and explicit than our normal (non-campfire) shows and is not recommended for those easily offended or under the age of 13. So if you don't have a sense of humor ... you might want to avoid these backcountry campfire shows. But if you do - you are in for an interesting discussion!!! For the official Backpacker Magazine list and for comments from the public to their published article follow this link. See you in Hollywood!
Subject: Awesome (Awesomely Bad) Hiking & Backpacking MoviesInterviewees: 3Dub, Beer Run, Brownie, The Camel, Napster, The Ox, WagonhammerInterview Date: June 23, 2018Runtime: 49:11
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In Episode 53, I speak with Amos Prudhon about his YouTube channel titled Backpacker Diaries - which documents his numerous ventures into the backcountry of the U.S and Canada. Amos does an excellent job at capturing the experience on the Trail - and focuses on multi-day and multi-week backpacking trips that are well within the reach of most backpackers. On the show, we discuss his recent hike on the Sawback Trail in Banff National Park and we talk specifics about securing a permit, backcountry campsites, wildlife, insects, weather and FOOD.
Did I forget to mention that Amos is a professional chef??? Listen in and you will not only discover some new hikes to add to your wish list, but you will also hear some suggestions for your next backcountry meal.
You can watch and learn more about Amos's adventures by clicking this You Tube link to the Backpacking Diaries or join the Facebook group of the same name. Amos did a great job laying this podcast over photos and video of his adventures - so check out these two YouTube links to see and hear this podcast: Part 1, Part 2
Subject: Backpacker DiariesInterviewees: AmosInterview Date: June 22, 2018Runtime: 1:18:48
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In Episode 52, it's a first on the N2Backpacking podcast because I speak with a fellow podcaster - Rudy from the Cascade Hiker. He approached me for an interview, but we end up trading questions and discussing a range of hiking and backpacking topics.
On the show, we talk about how we got in to backpacking, why we started podcasting, how we integrate our families in to our backcountry adventures, and the drastically different climates of the Pacific Northwest and Southern Appalachians.
So click below to hear the show ... or follow this link to The Cascade Hiker Podcast where you can hear Rudy and a number of interesting hikers and backpackers provide some great suggestions for your next trip to the backcountry.
Subject: The Cascade HikerInterviewees: RudyInterview Date: January 22, 2018Runtime: 1:14:26
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In Episode 51, I speak with 3 Dub (aka the World Wide Wanderer) who spent 7 months hiking northbound or NOBO on the Appalachian Trail last summer. On March 26th I had the opportunity to see him off at Springer Mountain, and in the podcast we speak about his preparations for the hike, experiences on the Trail, and what the vibe is like as a 50+ year old thru-hiker.
With the long distance hiking season ramping up ... 3Dub and I talk right before he departed for Europe and his spring hike on the Camino de Santiago. So you get two long distance trails in one on this show! As a bonus, 3Dub gives us some insight in to the Camino and the adventures that await you in France and Spain. Plus he shares some tips on how you can pull off two long distance hikes - two years in a row. Don't miss this one!
Subject: NOBOInterviewees: Phillip (aka 3Dub)Interview Date: February 21, 2018Runtime: 1:10:20
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In Episode 50, Rich, Mark, and Aaron join us from the ADK Winter Mountaineering School to discuss winter backpacking and how it is one of the best kept secrets of the wilderness - no crowds, no bugs, no humidity ... no problem.
In the show, we talk about the gear you need, the tricks you can employ, and the ADK training that will make you a bad ass winter backpacker. So listen in and get pumped to hike in the cold. And while you are at it - check out the FREE PDF's the school offers to help you plan and prepare for your next winter adventure.
Loyal listeners ... we have reached Episode #50!!! If you enjoy the podcast and want to hear more - drop us a comment on iTunes and tell us what you like about the show. Or visit the ADK website and learn more about their winter program.
Subject: Winter BackpackingInterviewees: Rich, Mark, AaronInterview Date: February 22, 2018Runtime: 1:03:54
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In Episode 49, the Camel, Pixie, and I review a few of the major U.S. hiking news events of 2017. Some of the topics we discuss include nails on trails, backcountry treasures, girls joining the Boy Scouts, and the hardest partiers on the A.T.
And in the spirit of giving you reasons to hike more in the New Year, we offer up the 52 hikes in 52 weeks challenge. We also find inspiration in the youngest person to complete the triple crown (at age 9) and the oldest person to hike the Appalachian Trail (at age 82). If they can do it ... so can you!!!
So listen in and get motivated. And if you are so inspired and enjoy the show - drop us a comment or check out our new Patreon page to support the podcast.
Subject: Hiking News Review (Coleman Ridge Show)Interviewees: The Camel, PixieInterview Date: January 14, 2018Runtime: 58:16
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In Episode 48, Cardiac and Drone Boy discuss their summer backpacking trip on the Inca Trail in Peru. Their four day hike took them over ~14,000 feet peaks in the legendary Andes Mountains and culminated at the ancient Inca city of Machu Picchu - which is one of the most photographed tourist destinations in South America.
In the show, we talk about what it costs to hike the Inca Trail, the logistics of getting to the trailhead, and we discuss the history of this ancient city. Cardiac and Drone Boy also provide some insight in to the mandatory guide services, campsites, food, and the general backcountry vibe along the route.
This was the first multi-day backpacking trip for both Cardiac and Drone Boy, and you might be surprised to hear that the Inca Trail is within reach of most fit backpackers. So listen in, get inspired, and start planning your summer vacation to Machu Picchu. Their excitement and enthusiasm for Peru is evident in the podcast and you can check out the guide that they hired here. For a live video version of this podcast follow this link.
Subject: The Inca TrailInterviewees: Cardiac, Drone BoyInterview Date: December 20, 2017Runtime: 1:44:35
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In Episode 47, Beer Run and Therm Rider join me from the mountains surrounding Lake Burton to sit fireside and discuss more rookie mistakes. In this special "Your Screwed Dude" episode we talk about overconfidence, getting your friends lost in the backcountry, inadvertently smuggling banned items on airplanes, editables, dork moves, and backcountry crimes of fashion.
“Backcountry 301” is the third installment in this series, and in the show we debate some of the "52 Common Mistakes" that Backpacker Magazine listed in a previous issue. So kick back and brace yourself - because you may be educated and you likely will be entertained.
Subject: Backcountry 301 - Your Screwed Dude!Interviewees: Beer Run, Therm RiderInterview Date: October 6, 2017Runtime: 1:01:50
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In Episode 46, we continue the conversation with author Bryan Snyder who talks about Renegade Car Camping in North America. In the podcast, we discuss how to find free campsites while you are on the road. Bryan also tells us how to leverage some public and Internet resources to maximize the experience and save some money in the process.
Bryan is an educator, hiker, backpacker, climber, car camper and all-around adventurer, and he has logged over 350K miles in his Jeep Cherokee, code named "Charlie". This is the second of a two part series which will make you want to start saving and planning for a summer road trip. So listen in and get some good advice, or click to OffTheMapBooks.com for more on Bryan, his books, and his travels.
Subject: Renegade CampingInterviewee: Bryan SnyderInterview Date: September 13, 2017Runtime: 1:08:01
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In Episode 45, I speak with author Bryan Snyder about his latest book "Falling Off The Map: Fifty-Four Explorations into the Wildest Reaches of the American West". Bryan is an educator, hiker, backpacker, climber, car camper and all-around adventurer, and in the show we hear about his 20+ summers traveling throughout North America. He also shares with us some tales from a recent trip to Burning Man in the Nevada desert.
Bryan has logged over 350K miles in his Jeep Cherokee, code named "Charlie", and in the book (and on the show) he offers some tips and tricks for staying on the road and traveling on the cheap. This is the first of a two part series which will make you want to start saving and planning for a summer road trip. So listen in and get some good advice, or click to OffTheMapBooks.com for more on Bryan, his books, and his travels.
Subject: Off The MapInterviewee: Bryan SnyderInterview Date: September 13, 2017Runtime: 1:02:50
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In Episode 44, we delve in to The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly - our best and worst experiences from the Trail. Recorded live in the Black Hills of South Dakota, I sit "lantern-side" in the backcountry with long-time hiking friends BeerRun, The Camel, Therm Rider, and the Weasel. Each signed up to accompany me on a quest to complete 50 hikes in 50 States - which ended this month near the defunct goldmines of Lake Sheridan in the Black Hills National Forest.
We only scratch the surface of a lengthy list that I have tracked at N2Backpacking for over twenty years. So, we'll likely expand on this discussion during another backpacking trip. Until then, have a few laughs on us, listen to our Good, Bad, and Ugly, and let us know about your own experiences from the Trail with a comment below...
Subject: The Good, Bad, and UglyInterviewees: BeerRun, The Camel, Therm Rider, The WeaselInterview Date: June 11, 2017Runtime: 50:13
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In Episode 43, we talk about the hammock!!! Marc Bohman joins us live from the Teton Hammock Company in Idaho Falls, ID to provide some tips and tricks for sleeping "between the trees". We also discuss some common misconceptions of the hammock and what you can do to be more comfortable in the wilderness.
So ground dwellers (aka tent campers) make the jump, and learn the advantages of taking a hammock in to the backcountry. And if you have your sites set on a trip to the Northern Rockies, then listen up. Marc gives us some great weekend and long distance hikes in the Tetons - one of my favorite National Parks in the West. Or you can follow him on Facebook or Instagram and learn more about his hammocks.
Subject: The HammockInterviewee: Marc BohmanInterview Date: May 3, 2017Runtime: 1:01:34
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In Episode 42, we discuss a March 2017 article that appeared in Outside Magazine titled "The 40 Most Significant Tools & Toys Ever Designed". In honor of the magazine's 40th anniversary, the editors choose 40 products that "stood out for their sheer inventiveness" and their general impact on the outdoor community.
Tonight we sit fireside on the South Carolina side of the Chattooga River and debate the merits of some items on the list. Our group rarely reaches a consensus on each product - which makes for an entertaining show and guarantees that we'll do a follow-up episode in the future to expand on the list.
So listen in and tell us what gear Outside missed. And while you are at it ... enjoy the fire cracking in the foreground and the Chattooga River flowing in the background as we talk about the Most Significant Backcountry Gear Of All Time!
Subject: Most Significant Backcountry Gear Of All Time?Interviewee: BeerRun, PokeyBo, Therm RiderInterview Date: April 13, 2017Runtime: 1:15:13
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In Episode 41, we revisit Trail Days in Damascus, Virginia on March 13, 1995. The town has hosted the biggest event on the Appalachian Trail for over 30 years and most of these interviews were recorded live at the annual festival. If you have ever wondered what it was like to thru-hike the A.T. in the early 90's - now is your chance. The podcast is a remix of interviews that I did with ten hikers that were on the Trail in 1994.
Yes there were far fewer backpackers on the Appalachian Trail back then, and yes we hiked without mobile phones, GPS, and a lot of the Internet knowledge that is available today. But I think you'll find that the basic spirit and experience of the Trail remains the same.
So listen in as we talk about the A.T. - the hostels, hitch-hiking, the trail towns, wildlife, and that final climb up Katahdin. You will also hear our crew tell us what it takes to finish a thru-hike, what they miss most about long distance hiking, and how the A.T. changed their life for the better.
Subject: Trail Days 1995Interviewee: Black Sunshine, Boyz In The Wood, Laughing Bird, Motor City Ramblers, Sleeper, Squirrel, Stuffsack, Tired Dogs, Walking Stick, Wicked AleInterview Date: March 13, 1995Runtime: 1:05:22
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In Episode 40, The Camel and I continue the discussion on hiking news from 2016 in a show recorded right before our annual Klondike hike on the North Carolina side of the Great Smoky Mountain National Park. Forewarning, we talk felonies, guns, and politics - subjects that get The Camel particularly fired up.
So listen in, and we'll brace ourselves for the feedback! 'Cause we talk arson, kidnapping, self-defense, and about the political leadership of our country. And if that doesn't make you smile (or cringe), click here for some photos from our Klondike hike to get a look at why we head in to the backcountry in the first place.
Subject: Hiking News Review (Great Smokies Show)Interviewee: The CamelInterview Date: January 26, 2017Runtime: 52:39
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In Episode 39, Therm Rider and I do a live winter show from the Yavapai Lodge at the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. After a day hiking on the Arizona and Rim Trails, we kick back a cold one and discuss some of the major hiking news events of 2016.
In the show, Therm Rider and I recap and debate some of the U.S. news events that were heavily publicized in the outdoor community last year - including epic fails with drones, lost lives from selfies, and wildlife issues and encounters. We are paid a visit by two National Park Rangers during the interview, so tune in and find out what goes down in Grand Canyon Village.
Subject: Hiking News Review (Grand Canyon Show)Interviewee: Therm RiderInterview Date: January 7, 2017Runtime: 53:26
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In Episode 38, Theo and Bee give us all a New Years gift and tell us about their adventures on the 273 mile (440 km) Kungsleden Trail in northern Sweden. The couple has lived out of their VW van for the last three years, but took time off from their travels to hike the Kungsleden in the fall of 2015 and release the film Distant North a year later.
Back home in the UK (and from a recently purchased boat), Theo and Bee speak to the logistics of a Kungsleden thru-hike, the arctic weather and scenery, and the abundant wildlife - including a 1000+ caribou herd that surrounded them while on the Trail. So listen in and discover why The Kungsleden has moved to the top of my list of trails to hike. And if you really want to tempt yourself, follow this link to watch their film on YouTube.
The Kungsleden will not stay a well-kept secret for long. So pack your bags, head to Sweden this summer, and hike the trail before the word really gets out. Or click here to follow Theo and Bee's next great adventure.
Subject: Distant North - The KungsledenInterviewees: Theo & BeeInterview Date: January 2, 2017Runtime: 1:00:16
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In Episode 37, we continue the conversation with 30 Pack. During the second hour of our interview, we discuss his summer rim-to-rim hike of the Grand Canyon, the resulting hallucinations, ultra-marathons, and working with troubled teens in Utah. 30 lived out of his car for 2 1/2 years and tells us some of the craziest things that happened to him during this time - including hiking with the Navajo and hearing and seeing ghosts on the trail in Arizona.
You might recall 30 Pack from Episode 13 (where we talked about his Appalachian Trail thru-hike) and Episode 19 & 20 (where he recounts his Pacific Crest Trail thru-hike), so give those shows a listen if you haven't already. Or jump right in to this second segment of this two part series and get motivated to do good deeds for others and to explore the exciting wilderness of the western U.S.
Subject: Thirty At Thirty - Part TwoInterviewees: 30 PackInterview Date: October 26, 2016Runtime: 49:53
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In Episode 36, 30 Pack is back!!! And he gives us an update on his wanderlust and travels over the last 2 1/2 years - including his post-PCT adventures with Outburst and their exploration of the wild canyons, hot springs and numerous Trails of the western U.S. 30 Pack then settles briefly in Seattle where he runs his first marathon and is attacked while raising money and helping the homeless on the streets of the City.
You might recall 30 Pack from Episode 13 (where we discuss his Appalachian Trail thru-hike) and Episode 19 & 20 (where he recounts his Pacific Crest Trail thru-hike), so give those shows a listen if you haven't already. Or jump right in to the first segment of this two part series and get motivated to do good deeds for others and to explore the exciting wilderness of the western U.S.
Subject: Thirty At Thirty - Part OneInterviewees: 30 PackInterview Date: October 26, 2016Runtime: 51:16
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In Episode 35, we discuss the most influential hikers and backpackers of all time as we sit by a campfire in North Georgia on an autumn night with coyotes running wild in the background. First, a shout out to the trail conferences, clubs, maintainers, ridge-runners, trail angels, and financial benefactors to Trail - because you are collectively more important than any individual for your contributions. But tonight we review some of the names that came up the most frequently in hiking and backpacking forums when we posted the question to the trail community.
On the show, we discuss those who influenced us personally to get on the Trail. Then we review some of the well known hikers, backpackers, and long-distance thru-hikers that were mentioned as "influential" to the hiking and backpacking community and planted the seed for all of us - to "Get On The Trail". We promise you a few surprises, and no doubt plenty of controversy. So listen in and let us know who we missed.
Subject: The Most Influential Hikers And Backpackers Of All TimeInterviewees: PokyBo, BeerRun, World Wide WandererInterview Date: September 30, 2016Runtime: 36:15
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In Episode 34, Alex "Money Shot" Maier talks about his film "A Sense Of Direction" which documents his travels on the Pacific Northwest Trail in the summer of 2015. Alex chose the PNT for his first thru-hike (and first hiking film) to explore one of the newest trails in the National Scenic Trail system - which earned the status in 2009. Only a few hundred backpackers have thru-hiked the 1200 mile trail to date, and all have had the fortune to experience the PNT while it is still in its infancy.
In the podcast, Alex talks about the early history of the Pacific Northwest Trail, the many scenic firetowers and peaks on the hike, life as a PNT thru-hiker, and his favorite (and not so favorite) moments on the Trail. He also updates us on his latest long distance hike, and hints at a release date for his next major hiking film. For more information on Alex, you can click to his website or follow this link to watch his video for FREE on YouTube. And to hear my conversation with "Money Shot", see below...
Subject: Pacific Northwest Trail "A Sense Of Direction"Interviewees: Alex "Money Shot" MaierInterview Date: July 18, 2016Runtime: 1:00:22
Download Now: Pacific Northwest Trail "A Sense Of Direction" (WMA format 44.5 Meg);Pacific Northwest Trail "A Sense Of Direction" (MP3 format 56.5 Meg)
In Episode 33, Alex Staniforth talks about his recently published book Icefall which details how he survived two of the deadliest seasons of record on Mt. Everest during the 2014 and 2015 climbing seasons. Alex was picked on in his youth, but talks openly about how he channeled his energy in to outdoor activities - which eventually led him to raise funds and climb the tallest mountain in the world.
In my first international interview, we discuss backpacking in Nepal, hiking to base camp, life on the mountain, and how he managed to survive the avalanches and rock slides that took many lives over the last two climbing seasons. We also talk about his plans for the future - including where a 20 year old goes from here and how Mt. Everest still fits in to his future.
Subject: Surviving EverestInterviewees: Alex StaniforthInterview Date: April 28, 2016Runtime: 59:48
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In Episode 32, the conversation on Rookie Mistakes continues as we sit fireside on Justus Creek along the Appalachian Trail in North Georgia. In this discussion, Beer Run, PokeyBo, and Therm Rider talk about some classic rookie moves: taking the wrong gear, hiking above your skill level, and taking too much.
“Backcountry 201” is the second installment in this mini-series where we sit around the campfire and discuss the fundamentals of backpacking. In this episode, we go "off trail" a bit - so don't take the show too seriously. We'll get back on track in future episodes and hopefully this is worth a few good laughs as you commute to work, crank out some Trail miles, or do what you do when you are not on the Trail.
Subject: Advanced Rookie Mistakes 201Interviewees: Beer Run, Pokey Bo, Therm RiderInterview Date: October 3, 2014Runtime: 26:21
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In Episode 31, we discuss the life and legacy of Emma "Grandma" Gatewood, who at 67 years old was the first woman to solo thru-hike the Appalachian Trail. Author Ben Montgomery gives us an intimate look at this extraordinary lady who overcame financial hardship, survived domestic and sexual abuse, and had 11 children and 23 grand children when she left a small town in Ohio to walk the A.T. in 1955.
The book, Grandma Gatewood's Walk is now a New York Times best seller, and Ben gives us a look at the life and legacy of Emma Gatewood through her photos and trail journals, from interviews with her surviving children, and by tracking down some of the folks that actually met and hiked with Emma on the Trail.
Modern day thru-hikers walk with backpacks, tents, and sleeping bags - yet Emma had none of these items when she hiked the 2000+ mile Appalachian Trail three times in the 1950's. She was one tough lady - and this is an inspiring tale of the suffering, strength, and triumph that brought much needed publicity and federal funding to the A.T. at a time when thru-hiking was in its infancy.
Subject: Grandma Gatewood's WalkInterviewees: Ben MontgomeryInterview Date: February 3, 2016Runtime: 104:00
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In Episode 30, Scott "Squatch" Herriott is back on the show to discuss his film Wayfaring and his jaunt along the Camino de Santiago (or Way of St. James). The trail starts in France and ends near the coast of Spain and was one of the most important Christian pilgrimages during the Middle Ages.
Starting in 1985, modern day hikers have increasingly followed the path - with over 200,000 "pilgrims" hiking the route each of the last few years. In the podcast, Squatch talks about his adventures on the ~518 mile trail and offers up some suggestions for prospective thru-hikers.
For more information on Squatch and his films, click here! And watch out for his latest release, 72 Days In Iceland, which will be available for streaming (and on DVD) this February. In the last ten minutes of the show, Squatch provides a preview and also hints at his next great adventure. Click below for the audio interview.
Subject: WayfaringInterviewees: Scott "Squatch" HerriottInterview Date: January 15. 2016Runtime: 54:07
Download Now: Wayfaring (WMA format 38.6 Meg);Wayfaring (MP3 format 103.9 Meg)
In Episode 29, we discuss the expected surge of Appalachian Trail thru-hikers this spring and why a southbound hike might be the right decision for you in 2016. On the show, Popeye talks about his southbound (SOBO) thru-hike and we debunk many of the myths of walking south from Maine to Georgia: dealing with the weather, the insects, the lack of community, the lack of services, and the immediate challenge of terrain.
Popeye and I met at Tray Mountain when he was only three days from the southern terminus and we discuss his life on the Trail as a SOBO hiker, the new rivalry between northbound and southbound hikers, and the events that led him to the emergency room on his last day on the Trail.
So listen in - and when the mobs of thru-hikers hit the A.T. this spring (thanks to Wild and Walk In The Woods) you now have an alternative option for the A.T. Follow Popeye here. Or click this link to learn more about the Appalachian Trail.
Subject: SOBOInterviewees: Edward (Popeye)Interview Date: December 18, 2015Runtime: 1:55:55
Download Now: SOBO (WMA format 92.3 Meg);SOBO (MP3 format 111.2 Meg)
In Episode 28, Sprinkles and NoKey discuss their ultimate summer: Thru-hiking 1400 miles on four major trails along the East Coast - including the Benton MacKaye, Finger Lakes, Northville-Placid and Long Trails.
Forewarning, we spend the majority of the podcast discussing their 20 day, ~290 mile hike on the Benton MacKaye Trail - a great alternative to the Appalachian Trail in the South - but there's lots of great tips on backpacking and thru-hiking in general.
So listen in - and when the mobs of thru-hikers hit the Trail next year after the movies Wild and Walk In The Woods motivate the masses... you now have some great alternatives to the A.T. and P.C.T.! Follow Sprinkles and NoKey here. Or click this link to learn more about the Benton MacKaye Trail.
Subject: The Benton MacKaye TrailInterviewees: Jen (Sprinkles) and Patrick (NoKey)Interview Date: July 21, 2015Runtime: 1:08:15
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In Episode 27, You think you're tough? Well Niki Rellon just might have you beat! Niki's sports pursuits include professional kickboxing, ski instructing, cross-country cycling, thru-hiking, and currently a six month journey on the Appalachian Trail. Did I mention that she is doing it on one leg? Well now you know.
In the podcast, Niki talks about her first ventures in to the outdoors, her hike of the Pacific Crest Trail, and the event that changed her life - a 60' fall that nearly ended her life (and made her an amputee). Niki is now a week in to her A.T. thru-hike and took time from a rest area in North Georgia to speak with us. Click below for her inspirational story, or click this link to follow her on Facebook.
Subject: SuperwomanInterviewees: Niki RellonInterview Date: March 27, 2015Runtime: 46:45
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In Episode 26, I speak with Director Clint Ross who is hard at work with Producer Paula O'Neal on the film adaptation of the book Blind Courage, which is based on the 1990 Appalachian Trail thru-hike of Bill Irwin - the first legally blind hiker to complete the entire Trail within a single year.
In the show, Clint discusses the first draft of the screenplay, the trailer, and the upcoming plans to film the movie. He also give us some personal insight in to Bill Irwin and how he overcame alcohol and tobacco addiction through faith in God and by heeding the call to hike the A.T.
For more information or to follow the making of this film, click here. For the audio interview click below.
Subject: Blind CourageInterviewees: Clint RossInterview Date: February 25, 2015Runtime: 1:11:04
Download Now: Blind Courage - The Bill Irwin Film (WMA format 68.2 Meg);Blind Courage - The Bill Irwin Film (MP3 format 49.2 Meg)
In Episode 25, Scott "Squatch" Herriott talks about his three part series Flip Flop Flippin'. The films were shot on the Appalachian Trail during the summers of 2011, 2012, and 2014 and they follow the thru-hiker community as they make their way along the nearly 2200 mile trail.
In the show, "Squatch" talks about his first ventures in to the wilderness, some of the thru-hikers and trail angels that he met on the A.T., and his experience as a filmmaker in the backcountry. His skills as a stand-up comedian come across in his videos and on the podcast. So I am sure that you will enjoy both.
For more information on Squatch and his films, click here! For the audio interview click below.
Subject: Flip Flop Flippin'Interviewees: Scott "Squatch" HerriottInterview Date: November 21, 2014Runtime: 1:20:46
Download Now: Flip Flop Flippin' (WMA format 55.1 Meg);Flip Flop Flippin' (MP3 format 75.7 Meg)
In Episode 24, we satisfy a listener request for a show on backcountry basics. Recorded at a remote campsite on the Chattooga River, I speak with Therm Rider and The Camel about some of our rookie mistakes in the backcountry and smart things that we've done since our first ventures in to the wilderness.
"Backcountry 101" is the first installment in this mini-series where we sit around the campfire and discuss the fundamentals of backpacking. In this episode, we talk about the times when we've taken too much, hiked too far, or put members of our group in terrain that was way above their skill level. Enjoy the show and have a laugh at our expense. And yes, this is a photo from the hike with "Bob"!
Subject: Backcountry 101 - Rookie MistakesInterviewees: Brett (Therm Rider), Roger (The Camel)Interview Date: October 25, 2014Runtime: 39:34
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In Episode 23, Kori "Rocket" Feener talks about her recently released film Hard Way Home which documents her personal journey on the ~ 2200 mile Appalachian Trail in 2012.
In the movie, Kori talks about her physical and emotional struggles on the A.T., the healing powers of long distance hiking, and what it's like to film and produce a film while hiking the Appalachian Trail. She also gives us some insight in to the film industry and talks about her recent trips to various film festivals in the U.S.
For more information on Kori and her film, click here! For the audio interview click below.
Subject: Hard Way Home (via the Appalachian Trail)Interviewees: Kori "Rocket" FeenerInterview Date: September 29, 2014Runtime: 1:02:31
Download Now: Hard Way Home (WMA format 45.2 Meg);Hard Way Home (MP3 format 60.0 Meg)
In Episode 22, Ken (aka "The Weasel") and I discuss our experience as extras in the soon to be released movie Walk In The Woods. It is based on the best-selling 1998 book by Bill Bryson, and stars Robert Redford and Nick Nolte - both who were on set for our scene in the movie which was filmed at Stone Mountain Park near Atlanta, Georgia.
Ken and I record the podcast 2 years to the day of an interview we did on the Chattooga River Trail (Episode #5). We talk about what it takes to get the casting call, discuss life on the set, review some scenes from the movie, and talk about the impact this Hollywood production may have on the Appalachian Trail and other long distance hiking trails in the future.
Want a shot at your 15 seconds of fame? Hurry, because they are wrapping up production of Walk In The Woods in June. But you can follow this link to CL Casting to see the Atlanta casting calls that remain.
Subject: Extra Walk In The WoodsInterviewees: Ken (aka The Weasel)Interview Date: June 10, 2014Runtime: 1:09:40
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In Episode 21, JD (aka Trail Hard) tells us about his passion for hiking and backpacking in the Great Smoky Mountain National Park - the most visited national park in the United States.
On the show, we discuss his quest for a third map in the "Smokies" - or the completion of every trail in the Park. While a "map" is technically ~900 miles, a hiker walks roughly 1500 miles to complete it. And JD is on his third map - dang! Fewer than 400 can even claim one!
So he definitely knows the Park and JD offers up some of his favorite trails, vistas, campsites, and hidden treasures in the Smokies. He also shares some weather, wildlife, and comaraderie in the backcountry and gives some tips to those that are out for a day, weekend, or multi-day trip in the Park.
For more on JD, you can click to his Trail Hard website to find some cool gear or hook up with him for one of his "meet up" hikes with the Great Smokies Hiking And Adventure Group.
Subject: Great Smoky Mountain National ParkInterviewees: JD (Trail Hard)Interview Date: February 4, 2014Runtime: 1:20:16
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In Episode 20, Thirty-Pack talks about his 2013 thru-hike on the 2,663 mile Pacific Crest Trail (PCT). Over six months, he hiked 420,880 feet of elevation walking from Mexico to Canada along the western mountains of the U.S. This after he completed the Appalachian Trail on the East Coast in 2012 (see Episode #13). Will the Continental Divide Trail and coveted Triple Crown follow in 2014? Listen and find out.
Topics in this podcast include an injury that nearly ended his hike in California, deep snow in the Cascades, romance starting in the Sierra, and a discussion on the soon to be released Hollywood movie Wild which takes place on the PCT.
To see some amazing photos from his journey, you can follow this link and check out a Pacific Crest Trail calendar that 30-Pack made with Sweet Tooth - because the Triple Crown is in their future, and every penny gets them closer.
Subject: The Pacific Crest TrailInterviewees: 30-PackInterview Date: January 2, 2014Runtime: 1:05:28
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In Episode 19, I speak with Thirty-Pack about his recent thru-hike on the 2,663 Pacific Crest Trail. This is the bonus material from the initial interview, so make sure you listen to Episode #20 first.
In this bonus podcast, 30-Pack talks about his first day on the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT), trail romance, hiking with dogs, favorite trail towns, and interesting hitches. He finishes with some final thoughts on thru-hiking and how it has changed his life over the last two years.
To see some amazing photos from his journey, you can follow this link and check out a Pacific Crest Trail calendar that 30-Pack made with Sweet Tooth - because the Triple Crown is in their future, and every penny gets them closer.
Subject: The Pacific Crest Trail - Bonus AudioInterviewees: 30-PackInterview Date: January 2, 2014Runtime: 1:06:09
Download Now: The Pacific Crest Trail - Bonus Audio (WMA format 31.9 Meg);The Pacific Crest Trail - Bonus Audio (MP3 format 63.5 Meg)
In Episode 18, Troubadour recounts his quest for the Triple Crown: Thru-hiking The Appalachian Trail (in 1994), The Continental Divide Trail (in 2002), and The Pacific Crest Trail (in 1999).
In the podcast, Troubadour compares the three major U.S. long distance hiking trails and talks about some favorite sections on each. He also gives a nod to great trail towns, hostels, and trail angels on these three epic trails.
In the early years of the Internet, Troubadour was also a pioneer in the hiking and backpacking community - launching thruhikers.com and pcthiker.com in 1995. We talk about the websites, about his hiking nearly 10,000 miles in the backcountry, and some great and not so great moments on the trail.
Subject: The Triple Crown - Part OneInterviewees: TroubadourInterview Date: December 2, 2013Runtime: 1:16:24
Download Now: The Triple Crown - Part One (WMA format 37.0 Meg);The Triple Crown - Part One (MP3 format 73.1 Meg)
In Episode 17, Jester and I speak via phone about his 2013 DVD release "Embrace The Brutality" which documents his 3100 mile thru-hike on the Continental Divide Trail.
In the podcast, Jester talks about his first backpacking trip, his high and low moments on the CDT, what it takes to hike, film, and produce a major film on the Trail, and a major hike that he has planned for Europe. Jester also offers some general advice to those that plan to hike the CDT and gives great insight for those that are contemplating a major hike through the Rockies.
In September, Jester will receive the prestigious Triple Crown award at the ALDHA-West event which is given to those that complete the entire Appalachian Trail, Continental Divide Trail, and Pacific Crest Trail. Congrats to him - because there are only a handful of backpackers that will ever earn that distinction.
For more information on Jester and his DVD's - which include a documentary of his thru-hike of the Pacific Crest Trail - follow this link to his website or visit his page on Facebook.
Subject: The Continental Divide Trail "Embrace The Brutality"Interviewees: JesterInterview Date: August 26, 2013Runtime: 1:06:42
Download Now: The Continental Divide Trail - Embrace The Brutality (WMA format 64.2 Meg);The Continental Divide Trail - Embrace The Brutality (MP3 format 64.0 Meg)
In Episode 16, Glenn (aka The Helmet) and I do a live interview from his historic 1858 schoolhouse in Barton, Vermont. The topic is the 272 mile Long Trail which in 1930 was the first major long distance trail to be completed in the United States and it set the standard for the other major long distance hiking trails in America.
In the podcast, The Helmet and I talk about the history and some mysterious events on the Long Trail. We also discuss interesting peaks (including Mt. Bromley, Killington, Stratton, Mt. Mansfield), our mishaps and adventures on the LT, and how the route compares to his thru-hike of the John Muir Trail in California (chronicled in Episode #1).
The Long Trail shares 100 miles of the Appalachian Trail in Southern Vermont, and many A.T. thru-hikers are nearly half-way to completing the route. So here's your inspiration!
Subject: The Long TrailInterviewees: Glenn (The Helmet)Interview Date: July 7, 2013Interview Site: Barton, VermontRuntime: 54:41
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In Episode 15, Mackie and I sit down to discuss a 65 day and 17,000 mile cross-country road trip that went down in the summer of 1996. On the journey, we hiked sections of the Appalachian, Continental, and Pacific Crest National Scenic Trails and visited some treasured American wilderness including Isle Royal, Glacier, Mt. Ranier, Redwoods, Yosemite, and Grand Canyon National Park.
In the podcast, Mackie talks about the adventure, some major mishaps, high and low moments from the trip, his favorite National Parks, and why this was among the best experiences of his life.
This is the second of two podcasts about mega road-trips that I took in the mid-90's. The map highlights each route with the red lines marking the 1996 trip that I did with Mackie and the green lines marking a 1998 trip with the Ox. You can also follow this link to a photo gallery or a video from the 1996 trip.
Subject: The Ultimate Summer Road Trip - Part TwoInterviewees: MackieInterview Date: June 30, 2013Interview Site: Richmond, VirginiaRuntime: 1:13:27
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In Episode 14, Steve (aka The Ox) and I do an in-studio interview about a 38 day cross-country road trip that took place in the summer of 1998. We spent most of the tour in the western United States and Canada (Alberta and British Columbia) where we went backpacking and fishing in the Rockies, Cascades, and on the coast of the Pacific Northwest.
In the podcast, The Ox talks about the high and low moments on our road trip, some favorite campsites in the backcountry, and breaking down on the drive home at the Colorado/Kansas border.
This is the first of two podcasts about mega road-trips that I took in the mid-90's. The map highlights each route with the red lines marking a 1996 trip that I did with Mackie and the green lines marking this 1998 trip with the Ox. You can also follow this link to a photo gallery or a video from the 1998 trip.
Subject: The Ultimate Summer Road Trip - Part OneInterviewees: Steve (The Ox)Interview Date: May 17, 2013Runtime: 1:06:26
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In Episode 13, KC (aka 30-Pack) details his 2012 thru-hike on the Appalachian Trail that began at Springer Mountain in March and ended nearly 2,200 miles later at Mount Katahdin in September.
In the podcast, KC talks about the birth of his trail-name, some of his favorite (and not so favorite) moments on the trail, the Wolf Pack and the social aspects of a thru-hike, and why the experience was so inspiring that he plans to set out once again this spring to hike the Pacific Crest Trail on the West Coast.
KC plans to raise money for "Hiking For Kids" as part of his Pacific Crest Trail thru-hike, and you are invited to click here to make a donation. You can also follow KC via his Pacific Crest Trail Blog and offer your encouragement. Congratulations 30 Pack, and best wishes!
Subject: The Appalachian Trail - Reflections From A 2012 Thru-HikerInterviewees: KC (30-Pack)Interview Date: February 21, 2013Runtime: 1:03:29
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In Episode 12, I speak with Amy (aka Mrs. Weasel) in a Banner Elk interview about her experiences on the trail. These include hiking, backpacking, and volunteering along the Appalachian, Benton MacKaye, and Pine Mountain Trails in Georgia, North Carolina, and Virginia.
In the podcast, Amy talks about doing trail maintenance as part of the Konnarock and Georgia Appalachian Trail crews in the Southeast, her quest to finish the Georgia section of the Appalachian Trail, and what it's like to spend your first night solo in the wilderness.
Subject: Trail WorkInterviewees: Amy (Mrs. Weasel)Interview Date: February 15, 2013Runtime: 25:45
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In Episode 11, Katie (aka Wild Turkey) talks about her ventures in to the wilderness - hiking and backpacking with both friends and family in the Southeast. Topics include the weather and its impact on the experience, the gear you need for the Trail, and hiking with infants and young children.
Katie is the first female to do a solo interview for N2Backpacking and she delivers with this New Year's Eve conversation recorded in Elljay, Georgia. Katie talks about some pristine destinations in the Southeast - including The Cartecay & Chattooga Rivers, Stratton Bald, The Smokies, Wesser Bald, Yellow Mountain, and a few others. She also offers some general advice for those that are striking out for the first time.
Subject: Wild TurkeyInterviewees: Katie (Wild Turkey)Interview Date: December 31, 2012Runtime: 29:04
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In Episode 10, Brett (aka Therm Rider) talks about our recent hike along the Appalachian Trail near Stratton, Maine. This is the second of a two part series that recaps our October 2012 backpacking trip in New England.
In this interview, Brett talks about our travel to the trailhead, our punishing ascent & descent of the Crocker Mountains, and our multi-night stays in the trail town of Stratton.
The old thru-hiker adage, "No Rain, No Pain, No Maine" rings true on this hike, and Brett appends the statement with "No Complain" since you are always better to roll with the Trail rather than against it.
Subject: Appalachian Trail, North & South Crocker MountainInterviewees: Brett (Therm Rider)Interview Date: October 26, 2012Runtime: 30:26
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In Episode 9, Jim (aka Country Club) and Roger (aka The Camel) talk about our recent hike along the Appalachian Trail near Stratton, Maine. This is the first of a two part series that recaps our October 2012 backpacking trip in New England.
During our three day trip, we battled nasty weather and didn't see a ray of sunshine as we hiked over North & South Crocker Mountain. The steep, wet terrain and rocky descent to the Crocker Cirque Campsite had us averaging about a mile an hour - which is not uncommon for this section of The Appalachian Trail in New England.
In this interview, Jim & Roger talk about their front and backcountry experiences near Stratton and offer some suggestions for those adventurers that are planning a backpacking venture to the area.
Subject: Appalachian Trail, North & South Crocker MountainInterviewees: Jim (Country Club), Roger (The Camel)Interview Date: October 6, 2012Runtime: 25:18
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In Episode 8, I speak with my father about how he introduced me to the outdoors and how he served up a steady dose of hiking, camping, and fishing before I reached elementary school. We talk about the early years, of catching my first fish, of car camping in Ohio, and about the Appalachian Trail - where he joined me for a few days in June during my 1994 thru-hike.
Weeks later, my father returned to the A.T. but this time with a family friend while I continued making my way north toward Mt. Katahdin. While I hiked through New England, they set out for one of the most spectacular areas in the Southeast - the Mt. Rogers National Recreation Area and the neighboring Grayson Highlands State Park. After a great start to the trip, their hike was cut short as misery ensued and only a healthy dose of trail magic could save the day.
Subject: Father FigureInterviewees: Richard GoodrichInterview Date: February 11, 2012Runtime: 33:11
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In Episode 7, Phillip (aka the World Wide Wanderer) talks about growing up with his family on military bases around the world and his post-college travels around the globe. The interview offers insight in to places like Nepal's Annapurna Circuit, Peru's Machu Pichu, Greece's Samaria Gorge, and Egypt's Mount Sinai (the pilgrimage site of St. Catherine Monastery).
In the podcast, Phillip talks about his front country and backcountry experiences, some memorable moments on the trail, and the most exotic women in the world. He also offers some tips on logistics including planning and preparation, language skills and requirements, budgets, and recommendations for anyone considering dropping off the grid for a few years.
Subject: Global BackpackerInterviewees: Phillip (3W/World Wide Wanderer)Interview Date: October 8, 2011Runtime: 45:58
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In Episode 6, Kirk (aka SoulGlo) and John (aka Hawkeye) talk about their introduction to backpacking in the early 1990's. In the show, we discuss trips to the Great Smoky Mountain National Park and hikes from Newfound Gap to Ice Water Springs Shelter, Charlie's Bunion, Peck's Corner Shelter, Mt. LeConte, n2backpacking.com/hikes/north-carolina and Kephart Shelter. Kirk's fear of bears is quickly diverted to fear off the aggressive Smoky Mountain shelter mouse and he offers some strategies for dealing with them.
From the Smokies, we migrate the discussion to the nearly 11,000 mile Linville Gorge Wilderness which has multiple trails (including the Bynum Bluff, Conley Cove, and Pinch In Trails) that drop roughly 2000 feet to the Linville River where there are some outstanding campsites in the Gorge. John discusses route finding at dusk, backtracking to the trailhead, and nearly suffocating in his sleeping bag at night.
And finally, we finish with one of the most scenic backcountry destinations in the southeast at Mount Rogers National Recreation Area (and more specifically the Grayson Highlands State Park). We talk about Mt. Rogers, which at 5729' is the highest point in Virginia, and the wild ponies that roam the open meadows of near Massie's Gap along the Appalachian Trail (which may, on occasion, poke their head in your tent at dawn).
Subject: 90's BackpackingInterviewees: Kirk (SoulGlo), John (Hawkeye)Interview Date: June 28, 2011Runtime: 31:12
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